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A
A
A
A
B
From
the
city
attorney's
office,
I
at
this
time
the
citizens
review
board
members
the
chair
and
the
vice
chair
are
unable
to
attend
the
meeting
this
evening.
As
a
result,
I
would
like
to
have
a
motion
for
the
by
the
board
for
a
chair
pro
tem
in
order
to
conduct
the
meeting
this
evening.
So
if
someone
can
please
make
a
motion
for
chair
pro
tem.
B
And
that
was
a
motion
by
board
member
tamayo
in
a
second
by
collins.
Can
I
have
a
vote
on
the
motion,
all
those
in
favor?
Thank
you
so
much
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you
mound
chair.
Thank
you.
D
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Please
silence
all
electronic
devices
cases
that
are
brought
before
the
citizens
review
board
are
closed,
internal,
fair
cases
that
have
been
investigated
and
brought
to
the
police
chief
for
this
position.
It
is
the
citizen
review,
board's
job
to
review
the
cases
and
render
an
opinion
as
to
whether
the
investigation
was
done.
According
to
the
department
policies
and
procedures,
the
citizens
review
board
members
are
provided.
E
E
We
wish,
if
you
wish
to
speak,
we
ask
that
you
provide
your
name
and
address
as
well
as
a
brief
description
of
the
topic.
You
can
provide
the
information
by
filling
out
a
brief
form
at
the
table,
just
outside
the
doors
to
my
left.
The
public
comment
portion
of
this
meeting
is
coming
up
early
in
the
agenda.
So
if
you
wish
to
speak,
please
sign
in
now
the
chair
will
call
the
names
on
the
list.
So
if
you
don't
sign
up
to
speak,
your
name
won't
be
called.
D
D
D
D
Staff
and
board
response
to
public
comments.
No,
I'm
sorry
that
that's
unnecessary
items
to
be
reviewed,
21,
f-015,
mor1005,
standard
of
conduct,
sustained
mor1001
alcohol
consumption,
sustained
mor1102
abuse
of
position
or
identification
sustained,
while
off-duty
an
officer
became
intoxicated
and
used
a
police
identifi
identification
in
an
attempt
to
gain
priority.
Ride.
Access
to
the
theme
park
officer
resigned
during
the
investigation.
F
Okay,
that's
all
right
I'll,
say
it.
My
name
is
detective
de
gagne
with
the
tampa
police
department,
internal
affairs
bureau,
I'm
standing
in
for
captain
mesmer
today,
who
I
cannot
be
here.
He
does
apologize
he's
at
a
conference
again.
This
is
in
reference
to
an
internal
affairs
case.
However,
I
do
want
to
address
a
couple
of
questions
that
we
had
that
dr
collins
had
sent
captain
mesmer
just
in
reference
to
some
of
the
reports.
F
F
F
So
as
far
as
the
the
citizen
versus
citizen
walk-in,
when
dealing
with
the
complaints,
the
software
in
aim
allows
the
user
to
select
a
drop
down
menu
and
also
type
in
the
word.
So
it
appears
that
the
the
user
in
the
cases
would
type
in
citizen,
so
the
citizen,
walk-in
and
citizen
are
exactly
the
same
thing
again.
It's
just
the
users
is
actually
typing
in
citizen.
So
there's
no
there's,
no
differentiation,
the
differentiation
in
reference
to
that.
F
G
If
you
put
it
on
this
report,
if
it
would
go
on
that
and
the
reason
I'm
asking
is
some
time
ago,
we
asked
that
all
those
such
cases
like
if
someone
came
here
and
we
recommended
that
they
go
file
a
complaint
and
they
did
so.
We
asked
that
we'd
be
notified
when
that
one
was
closed
and
was
going
to
come
back
before
us
with
an
answer.
So
if
we
do
not
have
them
listed
as
such,
or
you
guys
do
not
have
them
listed
as
such,
I'm
just
figuring
out
how
we
kind
of
monitor
those.
B
Captain
mesmer
provides
information
on
when
cases
are
closed.
That's
why
they're
they're
on
the
list
of
cases
that
the
board
can
review.
That's
information,
that's
already
provided
so
if
it
appears
on
the
list
of
cases
that
the
chair
can
select,
then
those
are
cases
in
which
the
board
can
review.
If
it's
something
that's
still
pending,
there's
nothing
to
up
there's
captain
mesmer
could
certainly
advise
the
board
that
it's
still
pending,
but
there's
nothing
that
the
board
can
discuss
because
it's
a
pending
a
pending
matter.
B
A
Where
it
says,
internet
complaint
phone
call,
sorry
katie,
thanosis,
with
professional
standards
we
type
in
the
origin.
What
I
think
you're
asking
is,
if
the
citizens
review
board
refer
to
complain
it
to
internal
affairs,
if
we
would,
if
it
would
show
up
in
the
origin,
column,
okay,
we
wouldn't
know
if
they
were
referred
by
the
citizens
review
board.
Unless
they
told
us
when
making
the
complaint,
we.
G
Okay-
and
I
think
that's
the
question,
because
if
they
we've
had
a
couple
of
individuals
who
came
here,
made
complaints,
we
referred
them
to
use
the
complaint
process.
That's
within
the
city
and
the
little
brochure
that
we
had
if
there
was
in
district
one,
two
or
three,
they
could
go
in
and
receive
assistance.
G
The
questions
that
I'm
speaking
of
is
those
cases
because
they
initiated
here
and
they
went
to
the
department
for
investigation.
G
G
That
they're
going
to
be
presented
back
here,
because
we've
asked
such
cases
as
those
because
we
can't
really
intervene
because
they're
going
to
open
a
case
or
they
just
open
one
once
there's
some
closure
to
it.
They
come
back
here
and
we've
asked
that
they'd
be
notified
and
you
guys
have
been
kind
enough
to
do
that.
Okay-
and
I
don't
know
how
we
would
be
able
to
monitor,
because
I
thought
the
citizens
only
might
be
that
one
rather
than
the
citizen
walk-in
and
that's
where
I
was
looking
for
clarity.
B
I
think
I
think
a
lot
of
that
relies
on
the
complainant
providing
their
information
on
whether
or
not
they
wanted
to
have
their
phone
number
or
the
department
contact
them.
But
I
I'll
speak
with
captain
mesmer
about
that
when
he
returns
and
and
I'll
discuss
that
with
captain
mesmer.
Okay,
because.
G
That's
a
process
that
had
gotten
started
if
we
can't
continue
it
because
of
lack
of
knowledge,
then
if
they
come
before
us,
then
we
can
see
it,
and
I
don't
know
if
I'm
knowledgeable
and
remember
that
we've
had
a
couple
of
those
that
came
before
us
before
and
then
my
last
question
on
this
one
is:
how
important
is
it
when
we
see
courtesy
say
that
again.
G
I
was
saying
with
with.
D
G
That's
what
he
just
went
over
with
okay,
the
the
the
one
where
you
just
indicated
the
citizen
citizen
walk
in.
If
we
look
at
the
summary
on
those
is
12
5
of
the
12,
which
is
almost
50
percent
of
them,
not
quite
42,
to
be
exact,
they're
courtesy-
and
I
was
asking
the
significance
of
those
courtesy-
and
this
is
just
a
one-time
question-
no
need
to
do
any
research.
G
F
F
Moving
right,
along
with
the
the
agenda
here,
this
is
again.
This
is
an
internal
affairs
case
involving
mor1005
standard
of
conduct,
mor1001
alcohol
consumption
mor1102,
which
is
abuse
of
position
or
identification
on
1024
2021.
Captain
roberts
was
off
duty
on
her
own
time
at
busch
gardens
tampa
bay.
F
She
entered
the
quick
queue
line
of
the
cobras
curse
roller
coaster,
for
those
of
you,
unfamiliar
with
the
quick
queue
line
patrons
of
busch
gardens
can
purchase
these
passes
that
allow
them
to
enter
a
line
that
is
subsequently
shorter
than
the
regular
line.
This
is
in
order
to
get
on
the
ride
faster.
F
So
when
an
employee
asked
for
her
quick
q
pass,
she
pulled
out
her
badge
wallet
minus
her
badge
and
said
that
was
her
quick
q
pass
when
the
employee
went
on
the
radio
to
report
that
captain
roberts
and
her
party
did
not
have
the
correct
passes
she
pushed
by
him
in
order
to
get
on
the
ride,
he
alerted
security
and
tampa
police
officers
to
stop
her
once
they
got
off
the
ride.
During
her
encounter
with
security
and
the
tampa
police
officer,
who
was
working
in
extra
duty,
she
became
belligerent
and
disrespectful.
F
It
was
also
evidence
that
captain
evident
that
captain
roberts
was
intoxicated.
She
even
used
foul
derogatory
language
when
addressing
that
particular
police
officer.
She
subsequently
was
ejected
from
the
park.
The
employee
who
she
pushed
by
was
later
interviewed
and
he
did
not
want
to
press
charges
against
her.
He
felt
that
an
objection
was
just
during
this
investigation.
Captain
roberts
did
resign
and
ultimately
retired.
F
The
disposition
letter
found
that
all
of
these
violations
were
sustained.
C
C
C
Okay,
she
decided
to
speed
up
that
process,
that's
correct!
Okay,
do
we
have
any
understanding
or
knowledge
of
whether
the
two
friends
who
were
with
captain
roberts
were
also
members
of
the
tampa
police
department?
They
were
not
okay
and
we
we.
E
F
G
My
question
is:
there
was
discussion
as
to
the
decision.
I
agree
with
everything
and
she's
gone:
that's
not
it,
but
because
of
the
discussions
as
to
reading
all
the
reviews
of
the
six
individuals
and
the
behavior
of
detective
roberts.
At
one
point,
a
decision
was
made
whether
or
not
they
were
going
to
escort
her
off
or
whether
they
was
going
to
file
her
with
trespassing.
G
But
I
want
to
say
the
tpd
that
was
very
tolerant
of
them
to
do
what
they
did.
I
would
wish
that
that
type
of
tolerance
would
be
expressed
with
any
other
case
that
they
may
have
out
there,
because
someone
else
may
have
been
trespassed
or
I
don't
know
so.
Can
you
tell
us
the
difference.
F
So
the
ultimately
the
property
owner
busch
gardens
in
this
case
is
going
to
be
the
ones
that
make
the
decisions
on
if
they
want
to
prosecute.
If
they
want
someone,
trespass
so
one
of
the
some
of
the
options
that
they
have,
if
someone's
being
disorderly,
if
someone
is
being
disruptive
in
the
park,
the
options
are
to
just
eject
them,
which,
basically
you
don't
collect
their
name.
You
don't
do
it.
You
don't
do
any
of
that
stuff.
You
just
escort
them
out
of
the
park.
F
See
you
later
have
fun,
you
know,
and
then
the
the
next
option
would
be
the
the
trespass.
So
if
they
decided
to
do
a
trespass,
they
would
collect
that
person's
name
and
they
would
trespass
them
from
their
actual
property.
Usually
they
do
for
about
a
year
where
that
person
cannot
come
back
on
the
property
or
risk
being
being
arrested.
For
that,
but
again
it's
completely
up
to
the
property
and
and
again
they
they
did
use
discretion.
In
that
case,
and.
C
F
G
Encourage
the
part
to
make
sure
that
this
is
the
kind
of
tolerance
level
that
we
need
to
have
when
we
do
have
confusions,
because
there
have
been
confusions
that
may
have
gotten
into
other
things
or
someone
may
have
been
trespassed
off
the
park
or
maybe,
if
they're
doing
something
wrong,
be
arrested.
But
she
did
have
a
pretty
good
little
time
there.
It
appears
with
her
behavior
overall.
A
B
You
so
if
there
are
no
other
questions,
the
board
can,
if
it's
the
pleasure
of
the
board,
make
a
motion
to
the
motion
regarding
the.
B
The
the
results
of
the
investigation,
if
they
agree
with
the
the
sustained
actions
of
the
investigation,
the
board,
is,
if
they
want
to
make
a
motion,
you
could
ask
for
that.
C
I
would
move
that
we
approve
the
decisions
of
the
of
the
police
department
in
sustaining
the
violations
of
all
three
manual
regulations.
Second,.
A
B
Sorry,
I
keep
getting
kamaria
perez-maclin
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
there's
nothing
under
this
item,
so
we
can
go
on
to
the
crb
staff
reports
in
business
on
this.
Under
this
part
of
the
agenda,
I've
provided
the
already
organized
community
meeting,
dates
and
locations,
so
just
for
the
board's
information,
councilman
carlson
who's
in
district
4.
That
meeting
the
board
made
a
motion
for
the
meeting
to
be
to
help
be
held
at
the
jan
plaque
library.
That
meeting
right
now
as
of
right
now,
is
on
july
26
2022.
B
The
next
already
scheduled
meeting
is
for
councilman
vieira's
district
and
that's
district
7,
and
that
will
be
at
the
forest
hills
community
center
on
september
27.
2022
on
item
number
four
I
put
that
there
is
a
conflict
with
the
location
and
the
date
for
councilman
maniscalco's
district.
However,
I
want
I
don't
I
if
we
could
bring
that,
I
could
bring
that
item
back
before
the
board
next
month.
B
I
need
to
speak
with
councilman
manuscalco's
maniscalco's
legislative
aid
about
a
different
date
and
once
I
have
that
additional
information
I'll
bring
that
item
back
to
the
board
okay.
But
in
regards
to
the
first
item-
councilman
goods
district-
there
are
some
proposed
locations
for
a
community
wide
meeting
to
be
held
in
district
5
other
than
this
building
the
old
city
hall.
So
if
the
board
members,
if
if
I
can
have
a
motion
or
if
there
wants
to
be
a
discussion
about
these
proposed
locations,
that's
fine.
B
But
I
if
I
could
have
a
motion
on
where
you
would
like
your
community-wide
meeting
to
be
held
for
district
five
and
those
are
some
proposed
locations.
I
I
would
really
appreciate
that.
D
G
I
make
a
motion
I
was
going
to
say
I
I
kind
of
like
to
see
like
andrew's
location,
I
like
the
parking
because
he
got
it
on
the
side,
both
sides.
So
it's
adequate
parking.
G
I've
been
in
there
to
a
couple
of
meetings,
doing
the
pandemic
just
a
couple
and
it
seems
to
be
quite
spacious
for
me
where
people
can
spread
out
and
I
would
say
the
see
black
andrews
library.
D
D
G
B
So
in
discussing
these
community-wide
meetings
again,
I
will,
as
I
do,
for
each
of
these
meetings.
I
prepare
the
public
notice
for
our
our
monthly
meetings
and
I
get
that
posted
on
the
citizens
review
board
webpage
and
it's
also
posted
downstairs
of
old
city
hall.
I
will
also
provide
this
public
notice
comment.
B
I
mean
this
public
notice
to
the
councilman
in
order
to
broadcast
or
advertise
that
this
meeting
will
be
held
at
this
location
at
you
know,
whatever
location
that
we're
gonna
have
for
that
monthly
meeting,
and
I
would
encourage
the
board
members
to
also
spread
the
word
that
the
meeting
will
be
held
not
at
old
city
hall
that
month,
but
at
the
what
whatever
desired
meeting
location
for
that
for
that
particular
month.
There
is
no
provision
in
the
ordinance
that
staff
creates
a
special.
B
You
know
event
or
is
in
charge
of
this.
I
am
your
staff
to
to
help
spearhead
that
process.
So
if
there
are
any
questions
about
how
to
get
the
word
out,
I
would
encourage
you
again
to
just
start
spreading
the
word
to
your
friends,
your
constituents,
your
neighborhood,
whatever
platforms,
you
have
to
broadcast
that
these
meetings
are
going
to
be
held
at
different
locations.
B
I
would
really
encourage
the
board
members
to
do
that
and
the
the
hearing,
the
meetings
will
be
broadcasted.
It
I'm
still
working
with
our
technology
department
regarding
that
aspect,
but
it
will
be
broadcasted
just
as
all
meetings.
Our
public
meetings
are
broadcasted,
so
just
bear
with
me
and
I'll
provide
ever
the
board
members,
the
information
or
the
update
on
that.
Once
we
have
a
plan
in
place
on
how
that's
going
to
take
place
so
as
of
right
now,
our
first
community-wide
meeting
will
be
in
july.
B
G
I
guess
once
you
notify
and
confirm
at
least
the
three
that
we
have
and
currently
the
two:
if
we
can
have
the
address
attached
to
them
so
once
we
send
them
out,
as
we
send
them
out
to
individuals,
we'll
already
have
that
we
won't
have
to
look
it
up
and
do
something
wrong.
It.
B
No,
I
was
just
writing
my
notebook
nope
there's,
no
more,
there's
no
continued
items
and
we're
down
to
the
announcements
and
new
business.
I
don't
have
any
announcements
personally.
D
Okay,
do
any
of
the
board
members
have
an
announcement,
a.
E
Question
sure
so
I
have
two
things
for
discussion
per
se.
One
of
the
things
that
I
would
like
to
discuss
is
I
received
notice
of
a
meeting
that
was
going
to
be
conducted
a
workshop
more
so
on
the
23rd
of
this
month,
just
yesterday
regarding
the
crb
and
potentially
being
able
to
have
the
public
vote
in
november,
as
it
relates
to
having
a
private
attorney
as
well
as
supino
power.
We
at
least
myself.
I
wasn't
aware
of
such.
E
Is
is
moving
forward.
Is
there
a
way
that
we
can
be
notified
of
certain
workshop
or
events
that
are
going
to
be
held
with
the
city
council?
So
that
way
we
are
aware
and
can
also
be
present,
if
need
be.
B
Yes,
the
chair
was
present
and
he
did
provide
public
comment
regarding
the
item
that
was
on
the
agenda,
but
that
workshop
was
continued
and
it's
going
to
be
scheduled
at
a
later
date.
So
something
happened
regarding
that
workshop
and
had
to
be
rescheduled,
but
the
chair
was
present
to
provide
the
initial
input
on
that
matter.
It's
obvious.
I
could
update
the
board
when
it's
rescheduled.
E
E
B
E
Send
that
myself
all
right,
thank
you
and
then
the
other
item
I
had
to
discuss
was
we
had
our
annual
report
that
chairman
and
vice
chairman
and
myself,
attended
and
presented
on
may
5th,
which
was
a
pretty
great
outcome.
It
was
well
attended
and
we
had
a
good
discussion
with
with
the
council.
E
We
did
learn
that
day
that
there
was
a
federal
investigation,
as
relates
to
the
city,
and
I
know
we've
spoken
in
regards
to
see
if
we
could
have
had
a
presentation
today
regarding
that
matter.
E
But
knowing
that
you
know
the
city
cannot
go
into
any
details
regarding
conversation.
It
would
just
be
also
nice
to
know
ahead
of
time
that
if
there
is
some
sort
of
investigation
that
as
us
as
a
board,
we're
made
aware
of
such
matters.
G
Okay,
yeah
and
I'm
okay,
I'm
familiar
with
that
and
the
other
one
is
if
indeed
they're,
going
to
continue
the
workshop
and
you
notify
us
when
the
workshop
is
even
if
I
don't
attend
oftentimes
I'll
watch
it.
It
would
be
great
if
it's
a
workshop
and
it's
going
to
be
televised,
but
it
would
be
great
for
us
to
even
have
that
discussion
here
at
the
board.
So
when
the
chair
go,
the
chair
is
representing
the
position
of
the
board.
G
So
I
would
ask
that
the
title
of
that
workshop,
which
was
legal
counsel
for
well.
B
The
motion
that
this
the
council
member
made
so
that
title
is
not
going
to
change
because
it's
a
council
member's
motion.
We.
G
G
No
not
asking
for
that
to
be
changed.
Clearly,
what
I'm
saying
is
when
the
chair
of
crb
go
before
the
commission,
the
county
city
council
and
he's
speaking
on
that
issue,
he
is
representing
the
board
correct.
If
we
have
not
discussed
that,
then
I'm
not
too
sure
how
the
chair
can
represent
the
board.
G
So
if
we
can
put
that
on
next
month's
a
gen
agenda-
and
hopefully
it'll
be
before
it
go
back
before
the
city
council,
but
if
not,
it
is-
and
we
just
miss
out,
but
I
would
like
us
to
have
an
opportunity
to
find
out
what
the
posture
of
the
board.
So
when
the
chair
go.
We
are
certainly
supporting
the
chair
because
he's
expressing
the
views
of
the
board.
G
And-
and
thank
you
thank
you,
but
that's
not
what
I'm
saying
I
agree
with
you,
but
if,
if
we
don't
put
it
on
our
agenda
and
it
go
before
the
matter,
I
understand
I
understand
if
we
can
put
it
on
next
month's
gender.
Even
if
the
chair
tells
us
his
position,
we've
had
that
discussion
before
we
discussed
it
some
time
ago.
I
just
would
like
to
know
what's
the
posture
of
the
board,
so
the
chair
will
have
that
or
whoever
they
are
representing
the
board
and.
D
B
D
So
you
know
it
and
I
didn't
find
out
about
it
until
the
night
before
so
I
was
not
able
to
attend
and
if
I
attended,
I
would
be
speaking
for
irene
guy,
who
is
a
member
of
this
board.
But
my
opinion
is
my
my
own
and
that's
that's
the
issue.
With
hat
with
having
the
chair,
give
the
opinion
of
the
board.
B
Right
it
was,
it
was
that
situation
for
the
chair
was
a
last
minute,
dis
situation.
So
I
hear
what
the
board
is
saying
and
I'll
make
sure
to
have
that
on
the
agenda
for
next
month
to
discuss,
but
that
was
a
unique
situation
that
the
chair
was
in.
C
D
I
had
one
more
item
to
talk
about
the
website.
You
mentioned
that
you,
the
announcements
were
going
to
go
on
the
website.
The
website
doesn't
appear
to
have
been
updated
in
quite
some
time
and
it
it
still
has
the
wrong
members
of
the
board,
and
I
think
somebody
just
needs
to
go
through
it
and
look
at
it,
because
we
refer
people
to
that
website
and
I
went
on
it
today
and
it
is
not
updated
okay.
So
if
somebody
could
check
on
that,
I.