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I
I
Invocation
thanks
bye,
mr
ding
fellow
this
one,
mr
dean,
feldman
yeah.
J
church
is
located
a
couple
blocks
away
from
city
hall.
It's
the
oldest
episcopal
church
on
the
west
coast
of
florida,
founded
in
1871
before
coming
into
tampa.
Father
rhys
served
a
church
in
fredonia
western
new
york
for
eight
years.
He
was
born
and
raised
in
northern
new
jersey
just
a
few
miles
from
midtown
manhattan
he's
a
graduate
of
the
university
of
colorado
in
the
virginia
theological
seminary
before
answering
the
call
to
our
dan
ministry.
Father
reece
served
four
years
in
the
u.s
army
and
five
years
as
a
deputy
sheriff
in
colorado.
J
Patrolling
the
streets
of
suburban
colorado
springs
he's
been
married
to
jeanette
since
1986,
and
they
have
a
son
hamilton,
who,
I'm
sorry
to
say,
is
at
florida
state
university,
I'm
a
gator
all
right,
good
job
hamilton
anyway.
It's
my
honor
and
privilege
to
introduce
and
ask
father
rhys
to
join
us,
give
the
invocation
followed
by
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
F
A
I
G
It
is
available
to
be
seen
on
spectrum
channel
640,
frontier
channel
15
and
live
on
the
internet
at
tampa.
Tampa
dot,
gov
forward,
slash,
live
stream.
Now
those
who
have
wanted
to
participate
in
writing
have
had
the
opportunity
to
do
so
and
that
is
going
to
be
made
part
of
the
proceedings
and
those
instructions
were
available
in
the
notice
that
was
posted
on
the
website
at
tampa.
G
Dot
gov
forward
slash
city
council
now
for
those
who
were
not
able
to
pre-register
to
participate
in
this
special
call
public
hearing,
they
can
attend
in
person
and
use
cmt.
That's
available
on
the
second
floor,
communications,
media
technology
here
at
315,
east
kennedy,
boulevard
and
please
note
that
those
attending
the
meeting
in
person
should
wear
face,
masks
inside
city
hall.
G
Mr
chairman,
in
accordance
with
these
rules
that
have
been
adjusted
to
address
the
hybrid
live
and
virtual
meeting,
I
ask
that
you
make
a
motion
council,
make
a
motion
to
wave
the
rules
and
adopt
the
meeting
as
set
forth
in
the
notice
and
agenda
social.
I
G
I
Right
we'll
go
to
item
you
want
to
go
to
go
to
the
item
first
with
mr
massey
and
then
go
to
public
comment
reference
to
this
special
here,
mr
shelby.
Yes,.
G
This
would
be
a
motion
to
open
the
public
hearing.
Please
motion
open
come
on.
M
G
I
do
see
mr
massey
and
some
other
speakers
available.
Mr
chairman,
mr.
F
You,
sir
good
morning,
city
council,
can.
K
Great
I
apologize
good
morning,
city
council,
morris
massey,
deputy
city
attorney,
the
purpose
of.
F
I
want
to
make
it
clear
that
these
bonds
are
non-recourse,
that
they're
approved
as
to
the
city,
pretty
much
like
the
university
of
tampa
and
moffat
conduit
financing
that
you
all
approved
a
little
while
ago.
The
city
will
have
no
obligation
to
repay
the
bonds
and
celadon
has
specifically
agreed
to
identify
the
city
from
any
such
obligation.
K
If
you
have
questions,
including
the
city's
outside
bond
council
miller,
philadelphia.
F
Council,
mr
trustee
lever
representatives
from
cleveland-
and
I
probably
mispronounced
your
name,
but
I
apologize,
I
believe,
tim
and
meredith's.
We
were
the
ceo
and
chief
administrative
officer
of
stelladon
dennis
rogero
and
I
are
both
available
with
rumor-
is
also
available
for
the
city,
we're
proceeding
with
inspirational
resolution
a
public.
This
is
a
public
hearing
requirement
to
section
147,
f
of
the
internal
revenue
code
notice.
The
public
hearing
has
been
published
in
both
the
tampa
bay
times
and
on
our
website,
as
required
by
furnace
regulations.
F
I
If
you
have
questions
regarding
this
proposed
resolution,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
massie.
Did
the
applicant
want
to
speak
first
now
before
I
open
up
questions
from
council
in
public
comment,.
F
We've
been
pursuing
this
project
for
quite
some
time
in
tampa,
we're
very
excited
and
we're
now
moved
to
the
the
final
stage.
Just
before
we
break
ground
is
to
complete
the
financing
and
the
municipal
non-reports
that
that
you're,
being
a
conduit
issuer
for
is,
is
critical
to
completing
that
financing
and
allowing
us
to
create
approximately
300
jobs
in
the
tampa
area.
On
our
first
stage.
I
J
Good
morning,
folks,
I
just
wanted
I've
looked
into
the
company
and
and
looked
into
the
process
and
quite
a
bit,
and
I'm
very
excited
not
only
about
the
employees
that
you'll
be
hiring,
but
also
about
the
environmental
attributes
of
your
of
your
systems
and
your
process,
and
obviously,
in
this
troubled
troubled
planet
of
ours.
We
all
need
to
chip
in
in
any
any
way
we
can
so
so,
thanks
for
stepping
up
and
best
of
luck
to
you.
I
I
N
I
It
to
a
second
all
in
favor
all
right:
any
polls
ocean
carry.
Mr
man,
will
you
read
the
resolution
or.
O
N
I
M
N
F
N
So
that
I'm
just
not,
but
mr
citro
went
downstairs
to
introduce
the
office
of
the
month.
G
And
mr
chairman,
yes,
mr
speaker,
without
having
to
repeat
myself
as
to
my
earlier
comments,
I'd
like
council
to
wave
the
rules
to
make
the
notice.
Excuse
me
the
rules
consistent
with
the
notice
and
the
statements
that
are
in
the
agenda
relative
to
virtual
and
remote
participation.
Yes,
sir.
I
H
O
O
May
I
proceed
yes,
sir.
Thank
you
very
much.
As
always,
we
are
here
to
honor
those
who
serve
us,
our
fire,
our
police,
and
I
always
start
out
this
conversation
and
these
commendations
with.
If
you
really
want
to
know
what
these
women
and
men
go
through
on
the
tampa
police
department
and
what
they
do,
while
on
duty
go
to
the
citizens
police
academy
for
the
city
of
tampa.
O
You
will
find
out
from
the
moment
they
put
on
their
uniform
to
the
moment
they
get
off
duty,
what
they
go
through
and
you
will
have
all
new
respect
for
the
men
and
women
of
tampa
police
department,
but
today
we
are
here
to
give
accommodation
to
the
officer
of
the
month.
If
I
had
it
my
way,
every
officer
would
be
officer
of
the
month
today,
we're
here
to
recognize
officer,
aaron
tyler
monteith,
but
I'm
going
to
have
the
chief
explain
why
he
is
getting
this
accommodation
today.
Chief,
if
you
would.
Q
Morning,
council
reuben
delgado,
acting
chief
and
lane
councilman
sicho,
said
we
have
a
thousand
officers
roughly
a
thousand
officers,
and
we
only
get
to
do
this
one
time
a
month.
So
12
officers
are
awarded
this
award
and
there's
so
many
more
that
are
probably
more
deserving
to
receive
one
as
well.
But
this
one
here
is
a
little
different
than
your
normal
officer
of
the
month
that
you've
heard
in
the
past
this
one's
not
about
how
many
arrests
are
on
the
street
or
how
many
guns
are
taken
off
the
street.
Q
So
tyler
is
a
tyler's,
a
member
of
our
critical
incident
stress
management
team,
which
is
a
cism
team
that
we
employ
to
help
officers
and
help
respond
to
situations
of
critical
incidences
to
help
get
through
some
of
tragic
events,
and
they
got
counseling
sessions
and
they
stay
with
officers
and
families
and
he's
done
it
for
several
years
now
and
I
just
want
to
touch
on
a
couple
things
that
he's
done
and
we
kind
of
threw
him
into
the
lead
role
of
this
of
this
team
based
on
some
retirements
and
he's
done
a
phenomenal
job
over
the
last
few
months.
Q
The
first
incident
that
I
want
to
talk
about
where
officer
monteith
really
showed
his
leadership
and
his
skills
in
leading
this
type
of
team
was
the
loss
that
we
had
of
jesse
matson
back
in
march
officer.
Monteith
immediately
jumped
in
called
to
see
how
he
can
get
involved
with
the
family,
assisted,
jesse's,
widow,
danielle
and
the
and
the
children
and
and
when
I
say,
assisted,
he
literally
spends
day
and
night
with
the
families
getting
them
through
the
process
getting
to
where
they
have
to
go.
Q
There's
a
ton
of
paperwork
that
they
have
to
get
through
that
tyler
kind
of
just
monitors
and
makes
sure
everything
is
done
right
but,
more
importantly,
he
becomes
a
true
friend
of
the
family
somebody
they
can
lean
on
in
this
difficult
time
of
their
grief.
He
assists
with
all
the
funeral
preparations
for
officer.
Matson
goes
to
the
funeral
home
with
with
danielle
and
kind
of
walks
her
through
some
of
the
processes
that
are
difficult
for
her
to
handle
at
that
time.
Q
Another
officer
that
we
had
shortly
after
jesse
matson
was
off
duty
officer,
travis,
comrie,
passed
away
and
again
monty
took
the
lead
role
in
that
case,
working
with
his
family,
who
was
some
of
them
or
out
of
state
coordinating
the
travel
plans
getting
them
around
to
where
they
needed
to
be
in
the
city
and
again,
you
know,
dropped
everything
he
was
doing.
This
is
above
and
beyond
his
his
regular
duties
as
a
as
an
officer
and
truly
helped
travis
comrey's
family
get
through
and
navigate
through
that
process
and
then
and
I'll
just
touch
on
it.
Q
So
it's
not
your
typical
office
of
the
month
award,
but
it's
something
that
he
does
that's
a
very
tough
job
to
do.
Not
a
lot
of
people
have
the
the
make
up
to
handle
that
type
of
position,
and
we
wanted
to
recognize
him
for
everything
he
does
for
not
only
our
officers
at
sea,
tragic
events,
but
for
the
families
of
our
fallen
officers
and
getting
them
through
those
times.
So
with
that,
I
want
to
award
officer
aaron
tyler
monteith
officer
of
the
month
for
september
2021.
O
O
We're
going
to
present
this
commendation
to
officer
aaron,
tyler
monteith
officer
of
the
month
september
2021,
because
of
your
dedication
to
service
commitment
to
excellence
and
going
above
and
beyond
the
call
of
duty.
You
have
been
chosen
for
this
mark
of
distinction
as
officer
of
the
month
tampa
city
council,
your
peers
and
superiors
would
like
to
recognize
you
for
your
hard
work.
O
O
A
Thank
you
councilman.
I
have
with
me
this
morning,
my
mother
kathy
and
some
dear
friends
of
ours,
rick
and
lee
lifelong
friends.
A
Thank
you
to
the
chief
council,
member
and
and
to
counsel
for
for
all
your
kind
words.
If
I
can
just
I'd
like
to
elaborate
on
some
of
the
things
we
do,
I
feel
it's
it's
extremely
important,
especially
in
this
day
and
age,
our
cism
team.
You
know
a
lot
of
the
things
we
do
it's
very
visual
when
it
comes
to
the
funerals
and
and
things
like
that,
but
probably
the
pillar
of
what
we
do
is
just
looking
out
for
the
mental
health
of
our
peers.
A
It's
extremely
important
because
you
know,
I
believe
that,
in
order
for
the
officer
to
give
their
best
to
our
our
members
of
the
city,
they
have
to
show
up
and
arrive
at
their
best,
so
we
have
to
keep
them
at
at
their
at
their
best.
We
talk
about.
You
know
how
how
awesome
our
retirement
here
is
and
everything,
but
it's
my
job.
A
I
I
take
it
upon
myself
to
be
my
job
and
the
job
of
our
team
to
make
sure
those
officers
see
that
retirement
to
make
sure
that
they're
healthy
and
that
their
family
life
is
good
for
that
retirement.
So
I
think
it's
extremely
critical
and
one
last
thing
you
know
in
2015
there
was
a
study
done
that
took
a
national
average
of
critical
incidents.
A
That
officers
see
the
average
person
will
see
one
to
two
critical
incidents
in
their
entire
lifetime
officers
will
see,
on
average,
200
critical
incidents
in
their
25-year
career
that
number's
even
heightened
more.
Whenever
you
deal
with
a
city
such
the
size
of
tampa
or
larger,
because
we
deal
with
more
people
and
more
incidents
than
you
would,
if
you
were
like
a
rural
deputy
deputy
or
something
like
that,
so
it's
just
extremely
crucial
that
we
take
care
of
our
people
so
that
our
people
can
take
care
of
the
citizens
of
tampa.
I
appreciate
it.
I
Thank
you
officer,
mr
vera,.
K
Thank
you
very
much,
sir,
mr
chairman
and
officer.
Thank
you
for
all
your
work.
It
seems
from
what
chief
delgado
said
that
you're
the
comforter
in
chief
there
so
to
speak,
and
that's
such
an
important
role
to
play.
If
my
memory
serves
me
right,
the
sermon
on
the
mount
says
blessed
are
those
who
mourn
for
they
shall
be
comforted.
K
I
believe
that's
how
it
goes,
and
you
know
I
always
read
that
to
say
not
necessarily
that
someone
is
is
is
mourning
they
should
that
they're
blessed,
because
they're
mourning,
maybe
there's
that
there's
a
duty
on
people
to
comfort
those
who
mourn
and
that's
what
you're
doing
and
you
do
it
from
somebody.
Who's
walked
down
that
road.
It's
something
that
most
of
us
on
city,
council,
chairman
goods,
of
course
excluded.
K
I
don't
think
can
can
speak
to
which
is
being
a
first
responder
and
and
knowing
the
risks
that
you
all
take
every
single
day
and
and
seeing
what
your
you
and
your
colleagues
go
through.
You
know,
but
stepping
into
that
role,
and
just
you
know,
dealing
with
things
as
small
as
paperwork
after
a
loss
of
a
loved
one
for
insurance.
For
whatever
it
may
be,
for
financial
issues
can
be
so
heavy
just
taking
a
piece
of
paper
and
filling
it
out
can
be
so
emotionally
heavy
and
you're
there
to
hold
their
hand.
K
You
know
for
for
these
officer
deaths,
while
our
city
mourns
you're
over
there
on
the
front
line,
helping
them
out.
So
just
thank
you
for
all
you
do
and
and
your
mom
there
should
be
very
proud
of
her
son.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you
very
much
sorry.
My
voice
is.
I
M
H
Thank
you
for
your
service
for
your
sacrifice.
We
appreciate
you
very
much.
It
takes
a
lot
of
strength
to
do
what
you
do,
not
just
as
a
police
officer,
but
in
comforting
these
families
and
being
with
them,
and
we
truly
don't
have
the
awards
to
show
our
appreciation
and
thank
you
to
your
mother
who's
with
you
and
your
friends
behind
you
for
being
with
you
today
for
this
special
moment.
Thank
you,
sir.
L
You
have
one
of
the
most
difficult
jobs
around
in
our
community,
so
thank
you
for
all
you
do
we,
as
city
council
members,
attend
these
services
and
and
everybody's
at
a
loss
for
words,
because
it's
they're
such
difficult
venues
to
go
to.
So
thank
you
for
being
there
to
guide
the
families
and
guide
all
of
us
and
thank
you
for
your
family
for
supporting
it.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
It's
interesting
about
just
a
couple
weeks
ago,
chief
delgado
was
in
front
of
us
and
we
were
talking
about
officer
mental
health
in
a
very
big
way
in
a
very
important
way.
J
The
thing
that
jumps
out
to
me
and
probably
obvious
to
everybody
involved
is,
is
the
concept
of
ptsd,
and
I
don't
think
I
you
know
most
of
us.
You
know
we
think
of
you
guys
as
heroes.
We
hear
that
term
a
lot
and
you
are
heroes
but
you're,
not
superhero,
you
don't
you
don't
have
superman
or
superwoman's.
J
You
know
impenetrable
skin
you're
human
officers
are
all
human
and
therefore
we
need
to
recognize
that
and
we
need
to
address
the
you
know
any
issues
that
come
along
and
we
need
to
fund
fund
those
needs
as
well
so
chief
make
sure
that
next
year
in
budget,
we
we
step
up
and
address
those
issues,
but
officer.
Thank
you
for
all
you
do
and
your
team.
I
know
it's
always
a
team
effort
and
and
thanks
to
your
mom
and
your.
N
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman.
It's
it's
an
honor
to
know
you
by
zoom.
We
get
to
meet
a
lot
of
people
now
by
zoom,
but
you
know
every
day
in
life.
It's
a
beautiful
day
until
that
day
happens.
N
That's
something
that
you,
the
one
that
have
to
go
knock
on
the
door,
speak
to
the
person
and
stay
with
them.
It
takes
a
special
kind
of
individual
to
do
what
you
do,
because
we
take
life,
that
everything
is
beautiful.
The
sun's
going
to
rise,
the
moon's
going
to
come
up
at
night
and
it'll
rain
when
it
has
to
and
it'll
be
beautiful
at
the
beach
and
everything
else,
but
within
those
24
hours.
N
Anything
can
happen
in
any
time
to
any
police
department
in
the
whole
country,
and
individuals
like
yourselves,
are
the
ones
that
hold
that
responsibility
to
make
sure
that
the
status
quo
of
continuing
life
continues
in
the
mannerism
in
which
they
were
accustomed
to,
and
it's
very
difficult.
When
someone
passes
away
that
the
person
that
goes
has
got
to
be,
they
know
they
take
you
into
your
you
you're
part
of
their
family
when
you
join
them
and
that's
the
hardest
thing
to
do
to
be
accepted.
N
The
hardest
thing
to
do
to
appear,
and
both
of
them
happening
because
of
individuals
like
yourself,
who
make
sure
that
the
future
of
that
family
stays
together,
and
I'm
glad
that
you
were
honored
by
the
tampa
police
department
and
thank
you
for
your
outstanding
job
and
your
services
and
continue
doing
what
you're
doing
god
bless
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
I
Chief,
you
know,
you
know
we
get
a
lot
of
officer
in
my
accommodation.
I
think
this
one's
kind
of
special
today,
it's
out
of
the
box
and
it's
needed
to
recognize
all
different
aspects
of
the
police
department,
not
just
for
someone
saving
a
life,
but
there
are
other
avenues
in
the
police
department
that
people
travel
to
do
good
work
for
the
citizens
of
tampa,
and
I
can
say
so.
I've
been
in
your
shoes
there
to
comfort
families.
I
can
remember
my
first
death
was:
I
was
a
bonita
white.
I
My
squad
slaughtered
sugar
squad
then
came
north
up
who
went
into
the
ocean
on
the
airplane
crash
when
I
was
with
the
family,
so
I
understand
the
job
that
entails
to
be
with
families,
because
it's
tough
at
times
me
being
in
the
industry.
You
know
dealing
with
all
different
type
of
family
members
who
show
up
and
trying
to
make
sure
they're,
comforting,
making
sure
other
people
aren't
interfering,
there's
a
lot
of
issues
that
go
on
when
you're
helping
a
grieving
family
get
through
that
troubled
time.
I
O
F
Good
morning,
councilman
darla
portman
president
tampa
pba
got
jimmy
owens.
Vice
president
tampa
pba,
I'm
honored
here
today
to
go
ahead
and
give
this
award
to
tyler
tyler
is
one
of
our
alternates
on
our
directors
of
the
board,
so
he
also
represents
the
pba,
so
I'm
thrilled
to
go
ahead
and
get
him
one
of
these.
This
is
actually
a
board.
That's
made
by
a
sergeant
at
tpd.
Everything
that
we
give
is
it
comes
from
another
officer.
That's
made
it
so
this
is
from
danny
rhodes
sergeant,
danny
rhodes.
He
made
this
specifically
for
you.
F
I
also
have
tickets
for
four
from
sergeant
brevi
retired
sergeant
breve
from
busch
gardens
for
your
family,
but
I
also
want
to
thank
you
for
all
the
things
that
you
do
for
us
on
that
we
get
calls
out
all
the
time
and
we're
out
there
with
you
when
officer
has
the
worst
day
of
their
lives
and
you're
there
to
support
them
and
have
their
confidence,
and
we
appreciate
you
every
day.
So,
thank
you,
tyler.
I
really
appreciate
you.
Thank
you
guys.
Thank
you.
Q
Q
Out
and
and
I'm
still
challenging
everybody
to
pull
up
the
bass
pro
in
the
limo,
so
let's
see,
if
you
guys
got
it,
we
can
do
that.
A
Here
good
morning,
council,
brian
ramirez,
christina
steffen,
with
tampa
hillsborough
expressway
authority
thea.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
bravery
and
commitment
for
what
you
do
to
our
fallen
officers
and
their
families
a.
G
Small
token
of
our
appreciation
gift
card
publix.
L
Appreciate
you,
I
think
you
know
no
one
really
realizes
that
that
sort
of
a
job
duty
until
it's
absolutely
needed
so
dustin
portillo
with
casper's
company
mcdonald's,
and
I
want
to
present
to
you
this
beautifully
engraved
watch
for
officer
of
the
month
and
there's
a
little
card
with
your
name
and
your
badge
number
on
there
and
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
what
you
do.
I
don't,
I
think,
there's
a
watch.
No
okay.
L
F
J
J
F
L
I'm
michael
kilgore,
I'm
the
chief
marketing
officer
of
the
columbia
restaurant
group
good
morning,
richard
godsmartz
is
fond
of
saying
that
none
of
us
is
as
strong
as
all
of
us.
I
really
appreciate
what
you
do
to
help
those
who
help
us.
So
thank
you
so
much.
I
appreciate
it
give
a
hundred
dollar
gift
card
to
our
columbia,
restaurant,
all
seven
locations.
A
In
in
the
state
I
work
in
eboard,
so
thank
you
we'll.
F
F
The
volunteers
that
serve
on
the
board
at
zootampa
we're
presenting
you
with
the
family
membership,
it's
an
annual
membership,
so
you
take
your
whole
family
and
it
also
comes
with
access
to
our
special
events.
Like
creatures
of
the
night
is
opening
next
weekend
I'll,
be
there
with
my
kids.
Maybe
we'll
see
you
there,
but
anyway,
thank
you
again
for
your
service
and
congratulations.
Thank
you
very
much.
F
P
B
F
O
Q
F
L
I'm
here
to
present
accommodation,
elisa
chesser
and
I've
got
several
neighborhood
leaders
here
today,
who
you
also
know,
and
one
of
them
is
sean
brown
whose
birthday
it
is
today
by
the
way.
I
just
want
to
present
this
on
on
behalf
of
city
council
to
lisa,
the
tampa
city
council
wishes
to
award
this
combination
of
lisa
chesser
for
her
tireless
work
and
commitment
to
the
homeless
population
in
south
tampa
through
hope
on
the
horizon.
L
Hope
on
the
horizon
began
as
a
means
to
feed
and
furnish
local
veterans
and
has
grown
to
include
individuals
and
families
within
the
south
tampa
area.
I
think
that
one
of
the
estimates
is
that
there
are
as
many
as
300
people
living
in
south
tampa
without
homes
and
and
lisa,
and
sean
and
others
run
food
banks
and
all
kinds
of
programs
to
help.
People
think
that
that
only
rich
people
live
in
south
tampa,
but
it's
absolutely
not
true.
L
Lisa
has
helped
countless
families
and
people
as
they
transition
from
homeless,
to
home,
helping
with
furniture,
money
for
utility,
hookups,
filling
refrigerators
and
whatever
else
may
be
needed.
Having
experienced
homelessness
or
self-lease,
says
uniquely
qualified
to
assist
this
community
with
dignity
and
compassion
as
need
increased
during
the
covet
19
pandemic
lisa
increased
her
financial
support,
so
our
community
would
not
lose
their
utilities
and
would
not
go
hungry.
City
of
tampa
is
a
better
place
for
having
been
served
by
lisa.
The
angel
in
steel,
towed
boots
and
blue
jeans.
C
K
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
councilman
carlson,
for
bringing
this
forward.
Sir
and
ma'am.
Congratulations
on
getting
your
commendation
today,
but
we
we
know
that
that
folks,
like
you,
do
this
work
not
for
a
moment
like
this,
but
for
the
reward
that
you
get
in
doing
the
good
work
and
and
giving
back
to
people
who
often
don't
have
a
voice.
So
thank
you
for
your
work.
Ma'am
and
god
bless
you.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you
very
much
for
all
your
work
in
the
community
and
for
helping
those
that
are
less
fortunate
in
improving
their
quality
of
life
and
showing
them
not
just
help
but
dignity,
and
we
certainly
appreciate
all
that
you
do.
Thank
you
very
much.
O
J
Lisa,
when
we
met
briefly
downstairs-
and
you
were
hanging
out
with
stephanie
there-
I
I
I
I
thought
you
were
just
one
of
the
you
know
just
a
rabble
rouser
just
like
stephanie.
You
know
he
got
really
too.
I
am
yeah,
I'm
just
I'm
just
kidding
you're
rattle
rousing
in
the
right
direction.
Obviously
I
haven't
lived
most
of
my
life
in
south
camp.
I
I
totally
agree
with
mr
carlson.
J
N
Thank
you
very
much.
Lisa
your
work
is
endless
and
you
know
we
have
four
seasons
in
a
calendar,
but
when
you
live
in
tampa,
you
only
have
two
seasons
summer
and
christmas,
and
what
happens
is
that
when
you
look
at
our
season
and
right
now
is
coming
your
busy
season
when
fall
and
winter
come
this
way?
What
happens
from
the
northern
area?
They
come
where
south.
N
I
Well,
lisa,
thank
you
for
your
work
in
the
community.
I
mean,
like
mr
miranda
said
endless
all
my
colleagues
understand
that
it's
homeless
is
all
over
town
and
again
mr
randall
said
we
have
people
coming
in
town
to
to
come
here
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do
to
try
to
help
those
who
are
here
and
those
who
are
coming
so
again.
Thank
you
for
your
efforts
and
your
crew.
That's
working
with
you!
God
bless
you.
I
No,
no,
I
remember
that
oh
joseph
before
you
can
go
downstairs
joseph
for
sure.
I
don't
know
if
there
was
supposed
to
be
a
presentation
to
marie
holmes,
but
we
got
a
memo
on
that.
So
I
believe
that
motion
was
made
by
mr
miranda.
Mr
scalco.
I
Understand:
okay,
so
we'll
move
on
we'll
go
to
item
number
four!
Yes,
ma'am.
I
I
Mr
shelby,
I
mentioned,
I
don't
know
who
to
talk
to
maybe
somehow
they
can
get
a
speaker
that's
coming
down
in
that
second
floor
room,
so
we
can
sometimes
hear
the
speakers,
because
lots
of
people
are
away
from
the
actual
lecture,
and
so
we
get
a
clear
sound
from
people
in
the
room
down
there.
So
I'm
sorry,
you
asked
me
to
do
whatsapp,
I
think
in
the
future.
We
look
at
some
technology
downstairs
in
the
second
floor,
where
they
may
have
a
mic
coming
down
or
something
like
that.
I
G
G
K
Yes,
sir,
it's
it's.
We
have
here,
mr
joe
greco
and
before
we
have
a
video
that
we're
gonna
play
for
joe.
If
we
could
begin
with
that,
please.
E
E
E
K
Well,
let's
give
joe
greco
a
hand,
we're
we're
here.
You
know
joe
today
is
his
last
day
september
23rd
as
the
president
of
tampa
firefighters,
local,
754
and
joe
wanted
to
say
some
words,
and
I
said
you're
not
just
going
to
get
away
with
saying
some
words
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
give
this
man
this
emotional
man
right
here.
God
bless
them
tampa.
City
council
commendation,
and
I
want
to
just
very
briefly
read
from
it.
K
I
it
put
it
says
in
relevant
part,
there
is
no
greater
or
more
vocal
advocate
for
first
responders
than
joe
greco.
His
advocacy
has
resulted
in
historic
investments
for
tampa
fire
rescue.
His
time,
as
president
has
been
marked
by
a
collaborative
relationship
with
elected
officials
to
improve
the
health,
safety
and
welfare
of
firefighters
and
promote
public
safety
for
all
joe
is
a
proud
son
of
a
police
officer
and
father
to
a
firefighter
he
fights
for
every
tampa,
firefighter
as
if
they
were
his
own
blood.
Joe
is
a
sense,
is
sincere
and
always
comes
from.
K
The
heart
always
comes
from
the
heart
and
he
has
an
everyday
level
of
common
sense
that
he
got
from
his
police
officer,
mother
and
construction
worker
father
that
he
passes
on
to
his
sons.
They
do
not
often
make
them
like
joe
greco,
a
proud
firefighter
a
proud
son
of
west
tampa
and
servant
to
all
of
tampa.
K
J
It
why
don't
we
hear
from
the
folks
folks
down
there
first
lewis?
Yes,
sir.
F
How
you
doing
andrew
carter
incoming
president
for
tampa
firefighters,
local
754.,
joe
sent
me
this
in
case
he
was
unable
to
do
so.
We
all
know
joe
he's
a
very
emotional
and
passionate
guy.
He
wants
to
say
it
was
a
sincere
pleasure
to
serve
as
serve
the
firefighters
of
local
754
as
both
vice
president
and
president.
He
also
enjoyed
meeting
and
building
relationships
with
all
of
council,
as
well
as
your
constituents
at
the
many
events
that
we
were
at
over
the
years.
F
P
Good
morning,
chief
trip
tampa
fire
rescue,
so
I've
known
captain
greco
for
many
many
years
but
never
actually
dealt
with
him
in
the
capacity
I've
dealt
with
in
the
last
nine
to
ten
months.
So
I
greatly
thank
him
for
his
support.
I
wish
you
well
in
your
retirement
and
some
of
those
fish,
you
need
to
bring
over
to
me.
Okay,
all
right,
good
luck
and
wish
you
well.
Thank
you.
D
We
got
to
get
this
picture
taken,
it's
been
a
pleasure
working
with
you,
you
know,
and
and
thank
you
for
some
of
the
advice
that
you've
given
me
in
regards
to
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
together.
It's
been
a
pleasure.
You
know
I'm
happy
for
you.
You
know
coming
up
on
your
retirement.
Congratulations!
God
bless.
F
Darla
portman
president
tampa
pba.
I
just
want
to
tell
you
joe,
you
are
a
fighter
there's
anybody
that
I
wanted
to
bring
to
a
fight
other
than
a
police
officer
would
be
joe
greco
and
he's
got.
Passion
he's
got,
speed,
he's
got
he's
he's
just
a
fighter
and
anytime
we've
ever
needed.
Anything
he's
been
there
for
us.
When
our
officers
have
fallen
in
the
line
of
duty,
the
fire
department
comes
to
back
up
the
police
officers
like
they
always
have
joe
you're
going
to
be
missed
more
than
you
ever
know.
F
F
I'm
going
to
try
and
compose
myself
for
just
one
second
council.
I
appreciate
all
the
support
this
council
and
the
last
since
I've
been
elected
the
last
six
years,
y'all
have
never
not
listened,
always
took
in
consideration.
H
Thank
you
very
much.
You
know,
although
the
firefighters
union
is
in
good
hands
with
andrew
carter
behind
you,
someone
I've
known
for
over
20
years
with
his
perfect
firefighter
mustache,
I
got
to
throw
that
in
there
he's
got
some
big
big
shoes
to
fill.
You
know,
captain
greco,
you
can
be
very
intimidating,
you're,
very
intense,
but
you're,
very
passionate,
you're,
very
loving,
you're,
very
caring.
You
care
about
your
firefighters,
you
care
about
their
well-being.
You
care
about
the
city,
you
care
about
the
safety.
H
You've
called
me
many
times.
We've
had
many
long
conversations.
You
are,
as
they
say,
a
fighter,
not
just
a
firefighter,
but
you
fight
for
your
people.
You
fight
for
this
community
you're
a
good
friend,
you're,
a
very
passionate
individual.
I
see
when
you
put
your
heart
into
something
you
go
100
and
I
respect
you
tremendously
and
you're
going
to
be
very,
very
much
missed
by
a
lot
of
people.
So
thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you.
Councilman.
L
Joe
thank
you
so
much
for
all
you've
done
and
we
are
eternally
grateful
you.
You
found
us
all
when
we
first
filed
to
run
for
office,
and
you
grabbed
us
and
educated
us
about
all
the
things
that
we
needed
to
know.
I
think
before
just
about
anybody
else
did
and
so
you're
a
great
ambassador
for
firefighters
and
for
the
safety
of
the
people
in
our
community
and
through
you,
we've
been,
you
know,
advocates
for
the
same.
L
I
hope
that
we,
most
importantly,
get
to
see
you
enjoy
the
well-deserved
retirement
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
more
pictures
of
fish
and
island
scenes,
and
things
like
that.
So
please
post
all
the
pictures
and
let
us
see
how
much
you're
enjoying
it
because
you
definitely
deserve
it.
Thank
you.
O
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair,
joe
last
week
when,
when
councilman
vieira
made
this
motion,
I
I
jokingly
said
what,
for
that
troublemaker,
and
you
should
have
seen
the
look
on
lewis's
face,
and
I
I
I
meant
that
sincerely
joe,
you
you,
you
are
a
troublemaker
but
you're
the
type
of
troublemaker
that
I
likes
you
have.
You
have
viable
solutions
to
the
problems
at
hand.
O
O
Joseph
I've
come
to
you
many
many
times
asking
your
opinion
on
how
this
council
can
help
the
men
and
women
of
the
fire
department
and
you've.
Given
me
straight
blunt
answers
whether
I
wanted
to
hear
them
or
not
joseph,
I
respect
you,
but
I
know
that
you
don't
have
an
off
switch
you're,
not
going
anywhere.
O
J
Joe
greco
you
and
I
share
a
lot
of
things,
including
being
emotional.
I
think
this
is
emotional
for
all
of
us.
The
I
haven't
known
you
that
long,
probably
two
and
a
half
three
years
when
we
met
and
and
the
fire
department
decided
to
file
your
union
decided.
You
would
endorse
me
a
couple
years
ago.
J
It
was
a
big
honor,
it's
still
a
big
honor
and
and
when
I
saw
those
pictures
up
there
of
us
campaigning
together,
it
brought
back
great
memories,
but
the
most
the
most
poignant
memory
that
my
wife
and
I
both
have
is
is
joe
said
joe
said.
Okay,
we
we
built
a
bunch
of
signs,
we
put
out
a
bunch
of
signs
and
then
we
we
decided
to
go,
walk
some
of
the
neighborhoods
up
there
in
seminole
heights
and
joe
said.
Well,
I'm
going
to
come
walking
with
you
and
little
did.
J
J
You
know
knocking
on
doors
and
then
running
to
the
next
one
and
that's
the
way
you
lead
your
life.
I
I
can
honestly
say
I've
rarely
met
a
man
whose
passion
for
for
helping
people
for
helping
people
is
as
large
as
yours,
joe
and
I
know
you're
not
going
far
and
andrew's
going
to
do
a
great
job
and
everything
else,
but
we'll
miss
you
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
So
don't
be
a
stranger.
N
N
Thank
you
much.
It's
a
pleasure
to
have
known
you
for
many
many
years
and
you
haven't
changed.
You're
still
the
in-fighter,
but
when
you
fight
you're,
not
only
fighting
for
the
men
and
women
of
the
fire
department,
you're
fighting
for
the
men
and
women
and
children
and
family
members
of
the
whole
city,
because
you
want
to
have
a
safe
city
and
you're
representing
the
individuals
who
can
do
that.
So
we
understand
that
we
appreciate
everything.
Why
is
he
leaving
now?
N
Although
he's
involved
in
it,
he
wasn't
the
face
of
the
fire
department
at
that
time.
So
that
tells
you
what
kind
of
an
honor
honorable
individual?
He
is
that
he
wasn't
willing
to
put
something
halfway,
that
he
couldn't
finish,
so
he
would
spend
the
last
11
months
as
a
firefighter
and
let
the
capable
hands
of
andrew
carter
finish
the
whole
negotiation
from
start
to
finish.
N
So
that
tells
you
the
individual
that
he
is
and
he's
not
doing
it
for
glory
or
for
honor
he's
doing
it,
because
that
was
his
duty
that
he
got
sworn
into
doing
when
he
took
not
only
a
firefighter
but
the
head
of
the
union
754
and
I
predict
in
the
years
to
come
somewhere
along
the
line.
You're
going
to
see
another
greco
seeking
office,
and
I
predict
it'll,
be
joe
grateful.
Thank
you
very
much
joe
for
what
you've
done
and
appreciate
it
very
much
for
you
and
your
whole
family.
F
I
Chairman,
well,
you
know,
sometimes
people
take
passion
for
being
a
person
being
angry
or
upset,
but
you,
like
me,
joe
you're,
passionate
about
what
you
do:
you're
passionate
about
the
causes.
It's
not
anger!
It's
just
that
you
you're
fighting
for
the
issue.
That's
right
for
the
people
or
for
purpose.
I
I
I
think
mr
sutra
found
some
things
out
too.
We
all
did
yes,
sir,
because
of
you.
I
experienced
it
because
I've
been
in
the
fire
before
so
to
me.
You
know
it
was
an
extra
experience
to
get
to
know
some
other
aspects
of
the
fire
department
about
equipment
that
I
didn't
know
about.
So
I
can
understand.
I
I
always
speak
about
experience
when
you
have
the
experience
you'll
be
able
to
tell
others
about
the
experience,
so
they
can
understand
it
and
that's
how
things
get
moved
when
people
can
talk
about
the
experience,
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
the
friendship
and
the
folks
of
east
tampa.
Thank
you,
the
folks
of
each
tampa.
F
Thank
you.
I
I'd
I'd
like
to
just
tell
if
the
754
members
are
listening
now
that
I've
composed
myself,
it's
been
an
honor
and
a
privilege
to
serve
you.
You've
always
supported
whatever
efforts
I
had
and
I'm
sorry
for
standing
too
close
to
the
mic.
It's
honestly
been
an
honor.
I
have
met
so
many
great
people.
I've
made
so
many
friendships,
although
it's
been
very
time
consuming
I've
loved
every
minute
of
it.
F
But
it's
time-
and
I
I
really
like
to
thank
the
guy
who's
behind
me
right
here,
andrew
for
supporting
the
efforts
that
I've
I've
endeavored
upon
in
the
last
couple
years,
because
they've
been
monstrous
and
very
time
consuming
andrew's
been
amazing.
F
So
thank
you
very
much
everybody
who
said
something
louis
for
putting
that
collage
jesus,
mother,
brother,
chief
and
all
the
other
union
presidents.
I
see
steve
back
there
thank
y'all.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
Some
extra
items
that
were
approached
to
me
by
staff,
we
have
two
walk-on
items
that
I'm
going
to
take
before
we
get
into
other
staff
reports
for
the
workshop.
For
today
I'm
going
to
let
mr
josh,
I
think
he
has
maybe
five
or
some
minute
presentation
that
they
had
asked
for
at
the
last
meeting
to
come
back,
so
I'm
going
to
have
him
come
first
and
then
the
administration
will
come
and
reference
the
walk-on
item
I'll
rest,
the
crime-free
multi-housing
bill.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
the
time
frame.
I
I
understand
we
have
a
lot
of
speakers
that
are
waiting
and
we
have
speakers
that
may
be
downstairs,
so
I'm
not
going
to
put
a
restraint
on
time
at
this
time,
but
I
will
say
that
when
it's
time
for
comments
for
calculus,
I
will
put
us
on
the
timer
and
probably
go
two
rounds,
and
then
we
bring
things
in
for
a
landing,
because
I
know
this
is
going
to
be
a
hot
long
item.
I
I
know
we
have
another
item
reference:
the
fire
department
that
chief
trip
will
be
talking
about
reference.
The
fire
department
had
calls
on
that
too.
So
we
have
folks
on
that,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
we
move
the
agenda
as
fast
as
we
can.
We
gotta
get
to
our
points
and
make
the
decisions
we
need
to
make
for
the
citizens
of
tampa
and
for
this
council.
So
what
further
do
I
bring
on
mr
johnson
for
the
walk-on
file?
Number
b2022-2.
D
Morning,
council
morning,
apologies
for
my
slight
tardiness.
D
Are
we
ready
we're
ready,
sir,
all
right?
So
after
last,
after
our
last
presentation,
chairman
goose,
you
recommended
that
the
cbfc
meet
with
the
cfo
as
it
pertains
to
the
breakdown
of
other
services
and
charges.
D
A
meeting
with
mr
perry.
During
this
meeting
we
didn't
really
receive
a
breakdown
of
the
areas.
However,
the
budget
officer
did
enlighten
us
on
how
the
budget
is
constructed
so
and
it's
guided
by
the
state's
uniform
accountant
system
manual
guidelines,
so
he
gave
us
a
a
little
insight
as
to
as
to
how
the
budget
is
constructed
and
why
that
category
of
other
services
and
charges
is
there,
but
we
did
discuss
with
the
budget
officer
that
we
need
to
be
a
little
more
transparent
with
other
services
and
charters.
D
So
the
committee
and
the
budget
office
will
work
together
over
the
next
year
or
so
or
quarters
the
next
quarters,
as
we
meet
with
them,
to
basically
identify
areas
of
how
to
be
more
transparent
with
other
services
and
charges.
So
we
do
thank
mr
perry
for
taking
time
and
explaining
how
the
the
budget
is
constructed,
underneath
being
guided
by
the
uniform
encounter
system
manual,
the
the
state's
manual.
D
So
with
that,
what
I
want
to
do
is
we're
gonna
go
into
our
revised
recommendations
after
meeting
with
the
budget
office.
So
again
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
I'll
introduce
myself.
You
know
everybody
know
I'm
joe
johnson,
I'm
chairman
of
the
budget
and
finance
committee
appointed
by
yourself,
mr
chairman.
D
This
is
my
third
year
on
the
committee
and
I
represent
district
five,
I'm
going
to
recognize
the
vice
chair,
craig
newman
is.
This
is
also
his
third
year
and
his
second.
As
vice
chair,
he
was
appointed
by
councilman
carlson.
He
represented
district
four
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
recognize
nicholas
glover,
who
is
appointed
by
joe
sitro
representing
district
1,
will
recognize
andy
scaglioni
appointed
by
councilman
miranda
representing
district
2.,
we'll
go
ahead
and
recognize
stephanie
poyner.
D
She
was
appointed
by
councilman
dean
felder
representing
district
three
michael
fluno
pointed
by
mr
mount
councilman
scalco,
representing
district
six
and
also
joe
farrell
appointed
by
councilman
vieira,
representing
district
7..
So
if
we
go
over
to
page
four,
these
are
our
previous
recommendations.
D
D
D
As
a
committee
we
talked
about
after
hearing
the
cfo
presentation
on
the
13th
and
and
speaking
with
the
budget
office.
You
know
of
that
16
million
dollars
that
we
discussed.
We
understood
that
a
certain
number
had
to
go
back,
but
we
were
able
to
identify
some
areas
and
the
budget
officer
actually
came
back
to
us
with.
You
know
something
that's
satisfactory.
I
think
for
for
council,
for
yourself,
mr
chairman
of
council,
as
a
whole
as
pertains
to
affordable
housing,
also,
as
retains
the
staffing.
D
So
as
a
committee,
we
looked
at
land
acquisition,
there's
going
to
be
approximately
there's
16.1
million
dollars,
that
of
arpa
money
that
is
available
to
use
now
in
2022.
There's
additional
funds
that's
coming
on,
I
don't
want
to
you
know,
go
ahead
of
myself
and
speak
out
a
term,
but
there's
additional
funds
that
will
be
coming
on.
D
So
that's
going
to
make
it
a
real
there's,
a
decent
amount
of
amount
of
funds,
that's
going
to
be
there
for
affordable
housing,
but
with
that
money
the
question
is
that
came
over
was
what
do
we
do
with
it?
We
have
no
land,
we
have
no
dirt.
The
city
doesn't
own
a
lot
of
dirt.
So
with
that,
we
we
said:
let's
put
aside
some
funds
to
acquire
land
and
in
acquiring
land.
We
want
to
have
the
city
provide
the
city
with
development
options
for
affordable
housing.
D
D
D
Tampa
is
a
part
of
hillsborough
county,
so
I
think
that
and
I'm
sure
miss
post
and
her
team
are
working
with
the
county
on
some
programs,
but
we
feel
that
maybe
there's
some
areas
of
opportunity
to
expand
on
that.
So
that's
a
recommendation
from
the
committee
all
affordable
housing
as
pertains
to
the
affordable
housing
funds.
D
D
Housing
department
again
met
with
the
cbo
and
he
he
brought
it
to
our
attention.
Look,
you
know
what
the
housing
department
is
is.
It
is
where
it
is
and
with
it
you
know
being
under
you
know,
carol
pulse
their
their
staffing
levels
will
increase
okay
and
up
with
those
staffs
and
levels
we
looked
at.
You
know
the
housing
and
community
housing
community
relations
manager.
D
Now
this
position
the
way
we
see
this
position,
it'll
liaison
between
neighborhood
and
community
affairs
and
housing
department
to
ensure
community
residents
are
aware
of
various
community
assistance
programs
such
as
the
down
payment
assistance
program,
ship
home
usda
rental
and
home
ownership,
and
the
nsp
programs.
Now
you're
you're,
probably
asking
ship.
You
know
what
is
what
is
ship?
That's
the
state
housing
initiative,
partnership,
okay,
the
usda
rural
housing
service.
There's
various
programs
out
there
that
individuals
just
don't
know
about
again
back
on
the
second
councilman
dean
felder.
D
He
did
the
math
five
and
a
half
million
dollars.
That's
183
families.
Well,
with
the
amount
of
money
that's
going
to
be
coming
in
through
arpa
and
the
state
and
federal
grants.
That's
out
there.
Well,
that's
an
opportunity
for
our
families
to
get
out
of
those
rental
cycles
and
get
in
to
home
ownership.
So
there's
a
bunch
of
programs
out
here,
that's
guided
by
the
state
provided
by
the
state
that
people
just
don't
know
about,
and
I
think
that
with
the
impact
of
affordable
housing,
that's
going
on
not
just
in
tampa
but
nationwide.
D
D
D
We
look
to
allocate
a
percentage
of
the
opera
funds
to
increase
funding
for
first-time
home
buyers
for
the
first
time
home
buyer
assistance
program.
Excuse
me
again.
This
can
assist
more
families
with
down
payment
assistance.
Right
goes
back
to
the
statement
of
councilman
dean,
felder,
neighborhood
and
community
affairs,
look
to
partner
with
housing
department
to
create
programs
that
can
inform
and
educate
community
residents
about
the
affordable,
housing
and
first
time
home
buyer
system
program,
and
we
also
look
to
with
the
home
buyer
system
program
right
now.
D
There's
a
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollar
cap
we'd
look
to
see
how,
if
it's
possible,
to
move
it
from
250
to
350..
Why?
Because,
given
the
current
housing
situation,
250
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
find
a
house
for
250
in
the
city,
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
find
a
house
for
250
in
the
county.
So
we
need
to
look
at.
You
know,
options
to
again
move
this
money.
The
right
way,
page
number,
eight.
D
D
Just
want
to
just
want
to
say
you
know
we
want
to
thank
mike
perry.
I
know
mike
perry
over
the
past
two
years.
It's
been,
it's
been
pretty
rough.
You
know,
meeting
with
the
the
budget
and
finance
committee
we've
been,
you
know
pretty
strong
and
he's
probably
taken
a
bit
of
a
beating,
but
I
do
want
to
recognize
you
know.
D
Mr
perry
has
a
wealth
of
knowledge
as
it
attains
to
the
budget,
and
I
think
that
his
department,
the
cfo
and
the
city
definitely
is
is,
should
be
thankful
to
have
him.
He
leads
that
department
very
well
and
we
enjoy
working
with
him,
and
I
just
want
to
recognize
him
because
I
know
he
takes
a
beating.
You
know
from
the
committee
from
myself
and
just
you
know.
I
think
I
just
wanted
to
take
this
time
to
say
thank
you
to
him
and
recognize
him
to
counsel
so
with
that
I'll
go
ahead
and
close
it
out.
I
Can
you
come
in
from
council?
He
comes
well
again,
mr
johnson.
Thank
you
and
the
committee
for
your
work.
It
takes
a
lot
of
effort
to
be
a
volunteer
to
bring
information
to
this
council.
So
again
we
applaud
your
work
and
again
always
recognizing
staff
for
the
work
they
do.
They're
appreciative
of
that
and
I
sure
know,
micah
appreciate
that
you're
giving
him
a
shout
out.
I
represented
work,
he's
doing
over
there.
So
thank
you
and
god
bless
you
soon.
Thank.
I
All
right
welcome
item
number,
e2021,
48,
chief
delgado
and
again
council.
We
will
hear
from
the
chief
and
then
we'll
take
comment
on
that
item
and
from
that
point
we
will
let
councilmembers
chime
in
on
the
information
from
the
public
and
from
the
chief
I
see
chief
bennett
on
the
line
as
well.
Morningstar.
F
F
F
So
our
administration
update
today,
which
we
appreciate
council
recognizing
and
honoring
that
is
not
solely
about
this
program,
it's
more
about
making
our
community
more
resilient,
so
everyone
can
thrive
and
to
be
the
best
version
of
themselves
and
with
that
I'll
give
it
over
to
chief
delgado
and
we're
around
answer
any
questions
from
council
or
the
public.
Thank
you.
Q
Go
ahead
chief,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
chief
bennett
and
again
good
morning,
council
reuben
delgado
acting
chief,
and
I
appreciate
the
time
you
guys
set
aside
today
to
discuss
this
crime-free
housing
program
that
the
tampa
police
department
has,
and
I
just
want
to
level
set
the
program
a
little
bit
just
kind
of
give
you
an
understanding
of
when
it
started
some
of
the
some
of
the
transitions
that
we've
been
through
over
the
years
with
this
program.
Q
Explain
why
it's
important
to
the
city
that
we
have
this
type
of
program
and
then
again
be
available
to
answer
some
of
the
questions.
If,
if
I
leave
some
stuff
off
so
the
crime
free
program
in
tampa
started
back
in
2013,
when
we
had
a
certain
area
of
the
city,
it
was
grid
33,
which
is
up
by
the
river
in
the
northeast
part
of
the
city
that
was
highly
dense,
densely
populated
with
apartment
complex,
and
we
were
seeing
a
huge
amount
of
crime
happening
within
that
apartment.
Complex.
Q
Q
The
purpose
of
that
program
was
based
on
a
couple
things:
it's
based
off
of
the
national
program
of
crime,
free
housing,
and
it
focuses
on
three
things:
one's
the
education
of
the
program
itself,
to
kind
of
bring
awareness
of
it
and
again,
our
goal
was
to
reduce
the
crime
within
those
apartment
complexes
working
with
the
apartment,
complex
managers
and
giving
everybody
that
live
there.
The
thousands
of
residents
in
there
the
opportunity
to
have
the
same
quality
of
life
as
everybody
else.
Q
Q
Security
measures
and
safety
measures,
whether
that's
lighting
or
that's,
the
locks
that
they
have
on
their
doors,
how
they
keep
their
bushes
and
their
hedges.
The
fencing
several
things
that
they
can
do
to
deter
criminal
activity
and
to
keep
their
their
apartment
complexes
naturally
safe
and
then
target
hardening
some
of
the
doors
and
windows
to
prevent
crime.
So
we
go
through
that
with
them.
Q
We
give
them
some
recommendations
on
how
to
make
their
property
safer,
and
then
we
worked
with
them
throughout
this
program
to
ensure
that
they
were
trying
to
get
all
of
the
stuff
completed,
and
then
the
the
other
part
of
this
is
is
no
different
than
we
do
with
any
other
initiatives.
It's
our
enhancing
our
relationships
that
we
had
with
apartment
managers,
making
sure
that
we
were
working
hand
in
hand
with
them
to
reduce
crime.
Q
So,
like
any
initiative
that
we
have
this
program
from
2013
up
until
last
week
has
undergone
several
evaluations,
several
modifications
over
the
years-
and
I
I
don't
want
to
take
away
from
the
focus
of
the
overarching
theme
of
this
program
and
and
that's
to
keep
providing
the
same
quality
of
life.
For
these
residents
of
the
apartment
complexes
and
reduce
the
number
of
victims
that
would
otherwise
be
subject
to
criminal
activity
on
apartment
complexes,
if,
if
the
initiative
wasn't
there,
so
some.
Q
We
reviewed
the
program
again
based
off
a
few
court
rulings
that
came
out
other
parts
of
the
country
and
we
as
a
city
at
that
time,
and
we
didn't
do
it
in
13
and
we
decided
to
maintain
the
position
that
not
to
develop
that
city
ordinance
that
most
a
lot
of
cities
that
went
to
the
national
program
had
a
city
ordinance
that
would
almost
mandate
apartment
complexes
or
mandate
some
some
things.
If
once
a
notice
of
arrest
was
given,
we
decided
not
to
do
that.
We
made
ours
completely
voluntary
by
the
apartment
complexes.
Q
Q
We
hand
delivered
a
letter
drafted
by
our
legal
advisor
to
all
of
the
part,
all
the
apartment
complexes
at
the
time
that
we're
participating
in
our
crime
reduction
program
and
I'll
just
read
a
little
snippet
of
the.
I
have
the
the
thing,
but
I'll
read
a
snippet
of
it
that
it
basically
said
by
providing
arrest
information
to
the
program
participants.
Tampa
police
department
is
making
no
recommendation
on
whether
landlords
should
rent
to
a
prospective
tenant
or
event
current
tenants.
Q
Rather,
an
arrest
information
is
intended
as
one
aspect
of
a
decision
made
by
landlords
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
Landlords
should
consider,
first
of
all
that
an
arrest
by
itself
is
no
proof
that
an
officer
arrested
committed
the
charge,
and
we
wanted
to
stress
that
just
so.
There
was
no
indication
that
we
were
trying
to
influence
any
decision.
The
apartments
make
they
make
any
decision
on
screening
and
evictions.
Q
100
percent
a
management
decision
based
on
information
given
to
them
in
2019
is
is
where
we
made
some
some
more
changes
to
the
program
and
again
it's
it's
just
a
process
of
evaluating
what
we
have.
Q
We
do
it
with
all
of
our
programs
and
in
2019
we
made
some
additional
programs
that
we
did
away
with
what
they
call
the
gold,
a
gold
list,
which
was
an
offender
awareness
list,
and
it
was
basically
a
database,
and
if
you
read
the
paper
that
was,
I
read
the
article
that
was
in
the
paper
it
it
states
his
goal.
Is
it's
something
that
we
don't
populate?
It
made
an
assumption
that
we
do.
There
is
no
gold.
There
is
no
offender
aware
list.
Q
Q
Lease
addendum
attached
to
any
of
the
apartment
complexes
leases
that
they
negotiate
with
their
tenants
that
doesn't
exist,
and
then
we
clarified
again
with
the
apartment
complex,
that
we
had
no
part
in
any
screening
services
or
victim
processes,
and
that
that
decision
was
solely
based
on
the
apartment's
decision,
based
on
other
factors
that
were
going
on
with
with
the
tenants.
Q
Q
We
immediately
had
conversations
with
chairman,
goodes
and
representative
hart,
and
I
want
to
thank
chairman
goods
and
representative
hart
for
that,
because
we
had
some
productive
conversations
about
what
was
in
the
article.
We
had
some
good
meetings
and
during
those
meetings
and
during
those
takeaways,
I
just
want
to
clarify
a
couple
things
that
I
did
right
away
after
getting
some
of
the
information
kind
of
explaining
the
position
that
we
were
in.
Q
Q
What
crimes
would
be
notified
to
the
apartment
complexes
when
I
say
the
felonies,
I'm
talking
to
violent,
felonies,
robberies,
murders,
you
know
aggravated
batteries,
so
if,
if
somebody
is
on
the
property
and
they're
beating
somebody
with
a
pipe
or
they're
shooting
at
them,
those
types
of
arrests
are
the
ones
that
we
would
notify
the
landlords
that
arrests
were
made
on
the
property.
Q
Additional
oversight
that
I
added
was
behind
me
as
captain
brian
hill
he'll
speak
here
in
a
second,
so
there's
another
layer
where
captain
captain
hill
has
to
physically
get
the
information
from
the
officers.
There's
three
officers
that
that
oversee
the
program
in
each
of
our
three
districts
before
any
notification
goes
out
to
a
landlord
captain
hill
is
going
to
personally
review.
Q
It
make
sure
it
falls
within
the
new
guideline
of
the
policy
sign
off
on
it
and
deliver
it
to
the
apartment,
complex
and
then,
of
course,
we
limit
it
to
on
property
only
so
the
offenses
and
the
hud
guidelines-
and
I
think
you
might
hear
it
today-
the
hud
guy
line
is
on
or
near
the
property,
which
is
how
that
currently
writes.
We've
we've
taken
ours
and
kind
of
made
it
to
it's
just
has
to
be
on
property.
Q
S
Good
morning,
council
for
the
record
brian
hill,
captain
brian
hill,
sorry,
I'm
just
going
to
give
you
a
quick
overview
of
the
current
state
of
the
program
and
how
we're
going
to
operate
moving
forward.
Currently
right
now
we
have
42
properties.
Those
42
properties
are
throughout
the
city.
South
tampa
east
temple
west
tampa
north
tampa
out
of
those
four
to
two
properties,
kind
of
give
you
an
idea
of
what
a
lay
sorry
per
district
per
council
district.
S
As
you
can
see
how
business
map
that's
indicated
on
the
screen
council
district
four,
we
have
three
council
district
five.
We
have
27
council
district
six.
We
have
five
council
districts,
seven,
we
have
I'm
sorry,
yes
country
said
we
have
seven,
so
that
gives
us
a
total
of
42
that
are
throughout
the
city.
Some
are
public.
S
Some
are
private,
there's
a
mixture
of
both
over
the
last
year
since
january,
one
we've
provided
these
properties
with
a
total
of
24
notice
of
arrest,
one
of
the
assessments
that
we
went
back
and
did
to
kind
of
see
where
we
were.
We
noted
within
those
24.
There
were
some
noaa's
issue
notice
of
arrest
issue
that
probably
shouldn't
have
been
that
kind
of
outlined
misdemeanors
with
this
against
our
policy.
S
S
Once
that
crime
free
officer
likes
chief
stated,
we
have
three
throughout
the
department
one
in
each
district
and
I'm
I
oversee
their
daily
operations.
So
once
they
provide
that
document
to
me
I'll
go
over,
it
make
sure
it
meets
our
criteria.
If
it
does
meet
our
criteria,
I'll
sign
off
on
it,
give
it
back
to
them.
It
will
be
electronically
delivered
to
the
property
managers
via
email
to
ensure
them
that
they
are
getting
their
notice
of
arrest,
the
proper
notice
of
arrest.
S
So
that's
the
extra
oversight
that
we
added
just
to
kind
of
give
an
indication
on
where
on
how
the
program
has
helped
us.
Over
the
years
with
crime-free
properties,
there
was
a
37.1
percent
drop
in
crime
that
could
be
violent
crime.
Drug
offenses
cover
all
the
bases,
so
the
program
works.
We
just
had
some
areas
where
we
recognized
that
we
messed
up
and
now
moving
forward,
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
we
do.
We
no
longer
have
those
issues
and
I'm
going
to
be
the
first
level
defense
to
make
sure
that
doesn't
happen.
S
If
I
may,
in
closing,
I
just
want
to
provide
you
a
statement
provided
one
of
our
property
managers,
who
could
not
be
here
and
also
wish
to
remain
anonymous
and
she's
over
one
of
our
larger
properties
that
we
that
we
partnership
with
as
a
property
manager.
One
of
my
duties
is
to
ensure
all
residents
abide
by
our
lease
agreement,
house
rules
and
addendums.
S
History
of
she
goes
into
talks
about
the
facts
that
lead
to
the
eviction
process.
She
states
that
history
of
constant
disturbances
that
had
led
to
violence
within
the
property,
an
eviction
is
only
presented
after
multiple
violations
or,
if
threatens
the
health
and
safety
of
other
tenants
surrounding
the
crime.
Free
program
has
only
strengthened
the
cases
that
we
have
been
already
building
so
just
kind
of
reaffirm
that
we
are
not
the
sole
and
last
and
final
person
who
determines
if
these
people
are
evicted
from
properties.
We
have
no
dealers
with
that.
S
Once
we
get
the
properties,
the
notice
of
arrest,
our
hands
are
out
of
it,
but
our
main
issue-
and
our
main
reasons
for
being
involved
with
these
properties
in
the
partnership,
is
to
again
to
pick
it
back.
What
chief
delgado
said
is
to
maintain
and
keep
everybody
safe
in
those
communities,
just
as
we
want
in
the
communities
that
we
live
in.
Thank
you.
Q
A
couple
more
things
here
and
then
we'll
I
can
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
so
again.
I
want
to
stress
the
importance
of
of
initiatives
like
this
for
the
tampa
police
department.
Where
you
know
the
goal
of
this
entire
program
is
to
provide
a
safe
neighborhood
for
the
residents
in
those
apartment
complexes.
Just
like
we
do
with
neighborhood
watch
in
other
parts
of
the
city
enjoy
the
same
quality
of
life
as
you
do
in
your
neighborhoods.
Q
As
I
do
in
mine,
we
often
forget
about
the
thousands
of
residents
that
live
in
these
apartment
complexes
that
just
want
to
have
a
normal
life.
They
want
to
have
their
kids
come
out
and
play
at
night,
and
sometimes
they
can't
do
that.
Sometimes,
when
the
person
next
door
is
dealing
drugs
out
of
the
house
or
they're
robbing
people
that
quality
of
life
for
them
goes
away
and
they
live
in
fear
and
they
live
in
their
house.
Q
I
know
you
know
I've
seen
it
driving
around
in
patrol
years
ago,
chairman
goods,
I
know
you've-
seen
it
driving
around
when
you
used
to
work
for
us
for
30
years
so
and
it's
real
and
the
the
reality
is.
There's
there's
violent
people
that
live
in
this
city
and
they
do
violent
things,
and
this
is
just
another
program
that
the
city
does
and
the
police
department
does
to
try
to
keep
the
citizens
safe.
Q
I
don't
have
to
tell
you
that
there's
a
rise
in
violent
crime,
there's
about
a
30
percent
rise,
that's
going
on
it's
a
national
rise,
but
in
tampa
we
see
it
and
we
feel
it.
Our
officers
are
out
there
every
day
trying
to
make
this
city
safe.
It's
initiatives
like
this.
It's
partnerships
like
this
with
communities
and
apartment
complexes
that
will
continue
to
keep
the
city
one
of
the
safest
cities
in
the
country.
Have
we
made
mistakes
in
the
past?
Of
course
we
did
right.
Q
Did
we
give
notice
of
arrest
of
stuff
that
may
or
may
not
have
qualified
yeah?
We
did
but,
but
that's
going
to
happen
in
anything
we
I
have
officers
that
that
write
tickets
mistakenly
give
tickets
to
people
that
we
correct.
So
this
is
no
different.
You
know
the
to
say:
the
program
is
bad.
Based
on
a
few
mistakes
is
not
not
something
that
is,
is
healthy
for
the
safety
of
the
citizens
of
the
city.
Q
You
know
again,
our
officers
are
out
there
every
day
working
hard
to
keep
them
safe,
and
this
is
one
of
the
tools
of
many
that
we
use
to
keep
the
city
safe.
So
now
is
not
the
time
to
turn
this
down.
Now
is
not
the
time
to
pause
this.
I
I
looked
at
it
a
week
ago,
I
made
those
three
immediate
changes
that
we
could
at
least
get
some
more
oversight
on
it.
Q
I'm
going
to
continue
to
look
at
this
program
and
just
like
anything
else,
I'm
going
to
continue
to
monitor
it
continue
to
modify
it.
That's
what's
best
in
the
city,
we're
always
going
to
have
those
one
or
two
situations
that
we
know
of
that
may
or
may
not
seem
like.
That's
the
right
thing
to
do,
because
this
prop
program
exists
and
we
get
sometimes
get
caught
up
in
if
and
the
article
makes
a
great
leap
between
a
notice
of
an
arrest
and
eviction
without
the
assumption
is.
Q
The
notice
of
rest
is
causing
the
eviction,
which
isn't
that
that's
not
the
case,
but
we
do
get
caught
up
in
these
certain
situations
where
a
grandmother
is
struggling
to
have
one
or
her
kids,
that
is
out
of
control
or
just
went
down
the
wrong
path
and
need
some
guidance.
You
know
we
try
like
hell
to
try
to
put
programs
in
place
with
the
rich
house
and
bigs
and
blue
and
ami
and
there's
programs
out
there
that
we
try
to
get
these
kids
but,
like
I
said
earlier,
sometimes
there
are
violent.
Q
Kids,
there's
17
year
olds
out
there
doing
some
violent
stuff,
and
this
is
just
another
program
to
keep
this
city
safe.
So
now
is
not
the
time
I'm
we're
monitoring
it.
Every
day
again,
I
want
to
stress
that
we
have
a.
We
have,
as
an
agency,
have
a
responsibility
to
keep
this
city
safe
and
to
keep
reducing
crime
and
improving
the
quality
of
life.
This
type
of
program
focuses
on
criminal
behavior.
That's
it
that's
what
this
program
focuses
on
when
somebody
violates
or
gets
arrested
for
criminal
behavior.
This
is
all
this
is
focusing
on.
Q
So
again,
I
know
there's
some
some
things
we
want
to
talk
about
and
I
will
open
it
up
for
questions
and
discussions
and
and
again
I'm
looking
forward
to
some
input.
I
Chief,
what
I
want
to
do,
I
I
hate
to
be
a
rule
bender,
but
what
I
want
to
do
because
I
know
we
have
a
lot
of
people
to
speak
on
the
side.
So
I
don't
want
counsel
to
get
bogged
down
to
answering
questions
now,
then
we
got
to
come
back
and
incline
what
some
of
these
speakers
might
want
to
talk
about.
So
I
would
rather,
at
this
particular
point,
go
ahead
and
open
up
a
public
comment
and
that
way
council
can
jot
down
what
people
are
saying
that
way.
G
I
Like
I
said,
but
I
know
I,
I
know
you're
a
stickler
marty,
but
I
think
with
this
situation
and
the
tension
he's
got
nationwide,
I
will
prefer
at
this
time
that
we
open
it
up
for
public
comment
for
this
issue
right
here.
That
way,
while
the
chief
is
here,
we
can
address
whatever
issues
and
concerns
and
if
we
continue
our
public
comment
afterwards,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
get
this
bodily
apple
over
with.
So
we
can
move
on
as
a
city.
Okay,.
G
Well,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
clarification,
so
the
people
downstairs
on
the
second
floor
or
the
people
on
the
who
are
pre-registered.
This
section
now
is
solely
on.
I
I
E
I
want
to
say
that
the
program
for
the
apartments
which
is
in
focus
now
we
do
need
to
keep
this
program
here
in
reference
to
this,
but
we
also
need
to
be
very
cautious
in
reference
to
having
the
residents
evicted
out
about
the
program
when
a
residents
are
evicted
out
of
their
unit.
That
means
the
whole
entire
family.
We
don't
need
to
evict
the
whole
entire
family.
We
just
need
to
do
what
it
is
that
for
the
person
who
is
doing
the
crime
or
anything
in
that
manner.
E
I
E
A
Good
morning,
james
michael
shaw,
junior,
I
think
you
know
me,
the
the
city
council
were
to
pass
an
ordinance
that
says
that
anyone
who
gets
arrested
can't
live
in
the
city
anymore.
Neither
can
the
rest
of
their
family.
That
ordinance
would
be
unconstitutional
you.
You
would
never
pass
that
ordinance.
In
the
first
place.
Your
phones
would
be
lit
up
by
your
constituents
saying
not
to
pass
something
that
heavy-handed,
but
when
you
consider
the
cost
of
housing
it
was
implemented
that
way.
A
If
you
cannot
afford
to
purchase
a
home
to
purchase
a
home,
if
you
can
only
afford
to
rent
and
that's
a
lot
of
people
being
the
arrest
of
a
family
member
means,
you
can't
live
in
the
city.
You
are
effectively
banished
exiled
from
the
city
and
you
would
never
pass
that
ordinance,
but
it
got
passed
by
the
police
only
about
17
percent
of
whom
actually
live
in
the
city.
They
don't
have
to
live
under
the
heavy-handed
regime
that
they've
imposed
on
others.
A
You
are
the
city's
legislative
body
and
I
asked
whether
all
of
you
knew
about
it
or
to
the
full
extent
of
it.
I
I
don't
think
everyone
did
and
I'll
tell
you
what
you
already
know,
which
is
that
white
people
would
never
tolerate
a
regime
like
this
for
themselves.
They
would
never
live
in
a
community
where,
if
their
teenage
son
gets
arrested
for
shoplifting,
the
whole
family
gets
evicted
and
they're
not
living
under
this
regime.
A
91
of
the
people
who
were
recommended
for
eviction
were
black
in
a
city
where
black
people
are
24
of
the
city's
population,
but
91
of
the
people
who
were
recommended
for
evictions,
and
it
was
designed
that
way,
I'm
showing
you
a
couple
of
if
you
look
at
the
elmo,
I'm
showing
you
a
couple
of
slides
that
are
straight
from
the
a
powerpoint
that
was
given
to
landlords
where
it
says
criminals
are
like
weeds.
The
best
way
to
kill
them
is
to
uproot
them.
A
Acting
chief
delgado
said
that
you
know
evictions
weren't
actually
encouraged,
but
that's
hard
to
square
with
this
slide.
That
was
shown
to
to
landlords,
to
uproot
criminals
by
evicting
them
and,
of
course,
evicting
people
doesn't
kill
them.
It
just
relocates
them.
This
one
actually
has
a
picture
of
a
smiley
face
with
a
zipper
that
says
when
denying
an
application
use
your
words
carefully,
because
a
discrimination
suit
can
be
filed.
A
If
you
said
too
much
so
the
the
intention
behind
the
program
was
to
relocate
the
black
population
of
a
city
outside
of
the
city,
that
that
is
what
happened.
You,
don't
nobody
likes
crime.
Nobody
wants
crime,
nobody
wants
criminals,
but
the
way
to
fight
crime
is
not
to
evict
criminals.
Mothers.
The
the
way
to
to
fight
crime
is
to
work
with
the
communities
instead
of
imposing
on
them
something
that
was
dreamed
up
by
a
right
wing,
think
tank.
A
And
lastly,
while
I'm
standing
here,
if
you'll,
if
you'll
indulge
me
for
10
seconds
on
item
eight,
I
would.
I
would
say
that
it
is
unacceptable
that
there
should
be
any
fire
stations
in
the
city
that
don't
have
a
ladies
restroom
and
that
we
should
recruit
more
heavily
for.
A
E
Good
morning,
I'm
yvonne
jackson
and
I'm
also
a
chaplain
for
the
community.
The
apartments
that
I
live
in
is
the
apartment
of
river
oaks.
I
put
it
right
on
out
there.
We
had
been
having
a
lot
of
shootings
a
lot
of
a
lot
a
lot.
A
lot
had
been
going
on
and
I
am
very
grateful
for
the
policing
that
has
been
out
there
in
the
community.
E
We've
got
pretty
close
to
some
of
the
police
officers
in
the
in
the
community,
one
officer,
baker.
I
would
call
her.
I
would
let
her
know
we
would
let
her
know
because
some
of
the
residents
there
they're
afraid
to
call
the
police,
but
this
is
our
community,
I'm
not
afraid.
I
need
to
call.
I
need
our.
We
need
our
policing
there.
We
need
them
like.
E
The
elderly
are
afraid
they
are
afraid
they
are
afraid,
some
of
them
when
they
hear
the
bullets
they
go
to
falling
on
the
floor
on
the
ground,
but
when
we
call
the
police
they
come,
they
come
to
our
our
aid
and
we're
asking
you
all
to
please
do
not
rid
of
this.
You
know
of
them
coming.
Please
do
not
rid
us,
please.
We
need
the
help
out
there.
Who
else
are
we
gonna
call
on?
We
need
the
police
all
over
the
state,
the
nation
everywhere,
but
we
need
them
there.
E
Where
we
live
in
our
community.
We
need
the
help.
Please
help
us.
Please
do
not
avoid
this.
Please
do
not
think
that
it's
just
you
know
something
that
we
don't
need.
We
need
it.
We
need
it.
So
please,
the
when
the
police
come
and
they
come
and
sit
there
and
I'ma
tell
you
something.
It
was
one
apartment
that
they
were
having.
So
much
balancing
with
the
young
people
running
in
sometime
would
be
eight
nine.
E
E
I
E
Good
morning
my
name
is
ray
granula
johnson
and
I
do
live
in
river
oaks
apartment
where
there
has
been
gunshots
during
the
daytime
when
our
babies
are
out
there,
and
you
know
it's
terrible
as
well
as
night
time,
and
I
am
66
years
old,
not
afraid,
said
and
I'm
getting
tired
of
hitting
the
floor,
because
my
mom
and
my
dad
always
told
us
when
we
ended
in
a
situation
like
that
always
trust
and
believe
in
the
police
officers
go
to
them
call
them.
So
I'm
calling
on
y'all
right
now,
because
we
need
y'all.
R
Good
morning,
I'm
johnny
johnson,
I'm
here
with
my
co-founder,
patricia
brown.
We
are
founders
of
rise
up
for
peace.
We
are
communing
against
gun
violence
in
our
communities.
Our
organization
is
made
up
of
families
that
lost
their
their
kids
in
love,
one
to
the
senseless
gun,
violence,
that's
going
on
in
the
community.
R
We
come
here
this
morning.
First
of
all,
to
say:
everybody
is
welcome
to
come
out
and
join
us
on
our
endeavor
of
trying
to
take
back
our
community
and
rebuild
our
village,
and
what
we're
doing
is
a
crime
free,
absolutely
go
hands
in
hand,
do
y'all,
understand
the
murders
and
the
the
tragedy
that
our
community
have
experienced
over
the
last
couple
years,
and
I
just
want
to
rise
up
for
peace,
vision,
statement
and
mission
statement
so
that
we
all
understand
what's
at
stake.
Human
lives
are
at
stake.
R
R
Our
mission
is
to
provide
emotional
reports
to
families
who
have
lost
loved
one
to
senseless
violence,
united
as
one
voice,
one
sound
against
violence
with
poor
strength
and
dignity,
and
collect
their
thoughts
by
joining
forces
by
with
public
officials
such
as
yourself
law
enforcement.
As
I
would
like
to
thank
chief
delgado,
major
kelvin
johnson
have
been
out
supporting
on
every
walk,
every
walk.
R
We
invited
everyone
to
come
out.
Other
organizations,
elected
officials,
any
group,
any
organization
come
out.
So
I
would
like
to
make
sure
I
say
thank
you
to
you
guys
and
like-minded
organizations
who
have
the
heart
for
hurting,
helpless
and
hopeless
individuals
who
are
seeking
closure
and
committed
to
the
sole
purpose
of
ushering
in
peace,
love
and
unity
bike
into
our
community.
And
we
all
can
admit
that
our
community
is
missing
the
love
and
peace
that
we
all
deserve
with
any
new.
R
Endeavor
you're
going
to
have
variables,
so
what
I'm
saying
is:
let's
not
erase
a
tool
that
can
be
used
to
help
the
violent
crime.
That's
in
our
community.
Let's
look
at
the
variables
chief
already
discussed
that
they
have
changed.
He
sat
down
with
elected
officials
such
as
mr
chairman,
orlando
guru
and
rep
diane
hart,
so
this
just
all
come
to
the
table.
R
R
C
C
C
People
would
come
out
there
sometime
at
two
three
o'clock
in
the
morning:
truckloads
wanna
fight
it
just
was
very,
very
careless.
It
was
just
always
in
fear,
because
you
never
never
knew
if
and
when
it
would
happen
or
what
was
coming
next
just
stayed
upset
all
the
time
we
didn't
have
the
firecrackers
it
just
was
so
so
many
things
that
were
wrong.
So
when
I
was
asked
this
question
is
the
rose
part
better
for
the
crime
prevention.
I
said
yes
on
a
scale
of
one
being
worse
than
10
being
best.
C
How
would
I
score
tippity?
I
said
an
eight,
because
there's
always
room
for
growth
and
advancement.
No
one
gets
to
ten
okay,
simply
because
someone
will
always
be
committing
the
crime
and,
thank
god,
tpd
will
be
there.
I
remember
the
times
we
had
wall
of
wall
of
people.
You
didn't
even
know
who
they
were.
You
had
no
clue
where
they
was
coming
from
and
where
I
lived
in
it
was
not
okay,
it
would
never
be
okay,
but
today
I
feel
a
lot
of
little
pride
about
what
I
see
with
the
children
playing
in
the
playgrounds.
C
C
I
do
thank
god
for
thank
tpd
for
keeping
me
safe
and
keeping
me
happy
and
anything
if
I
truly
support
this
crime
free
because
we
must
have
the
law,
the
law
is
good.
Man
is
bad,
so
who's
going
to
be
accountable
and
take
responsibility
if
no
crime
free,
if
we
don't
get
these
felons
where
they
should
be
and
the
other
part
of
is
about
the
evictions,
I'm
okay
with
that,
there's
nothing
wrong
with
it.
But
let's
don't
tear
up
the
families.
C
I
B
You
know
you
could
hate
on
your
own
people
by
saying
you
see
the
contradictions
but
understand
the
contradictions.
It
didn't
just
start.
It's
exploitation,
that's
what
it
is.
It's
exploitation,
the
nasty
stinking
police,
the
nasty
stinking
tampa
police
that
comes
up
here
and
talk
about
a
volunteer
program.
Why
don't
the
program
be
a
mandatory
program?
Why?
Because
white
people
would
not
accept
it,
they
know
the
black
people,
don't
have
the
resources
to
sue
their
asses,
so
they
put
it
down
against
african
people.
B
Make
the
program
inclusive,
make
it
mandatory
that
every
apartment,
complex
every
mf
and
house
in
tampa,
got
to
sign
up
that
if
somebody
commit
a
crime
that
their
family
get
evicted
where
they
do
that
at
in
a
zenia
south
africa,
if
you
don't
know
where
they
banish
african
people
where
they,
we
fought
against
apartheid
and
partially
one
against
apartheid
in
certain
ways
and
they
bring
those
nasty
programs
right
here
in
america
right
here
in
tampa
florida,
hey!
Look
it
ain't
by
the
orlando
ghouls,
orlando
ghouls
ain't
gonna!
Do
nothing
for
black
people!
B
B
Man!
You
got
people
in
here
talking
with
a
second
and
third
grade
education,
that
the
smart
tampa
police
department
that
got
too
much
money.
They
got
articles
in
the
newspaper
about
them,
spending
money
at
the
strip
club
and
everything
else,
taxpayers
money-
the
a-holes
got
too
much
money.
That's
why
they
involved
in
evicting
people
and
if
you
arrest,
someone
man,
there's
crime
all
over
the
mfn
world,
it's
crime
all
over
the
world.
White
people
commit
crime.
B
White
people
commit
crime.
Why?
Why
aren't
white
people
affected
by
being
evicted
from
where
they
reside,
if
their
kids
or
their
grandkids
or
whatsoever
commit
a
crime?
Man
y'all
black
people,
y'all
got
to
stand
up
and
y'all
got
to
be
aware
of.
What's
going
on
the
problem?
Ain't,
the
conditions,
the
immediate
conditions,
the
problem
stems
from
621
years,
621
years
of
oppression,
621
years
of
slavery
and
the
reparations
of
621
million
dollars
that
trillion
dollars
that
the
white
folks
owe
us
in
reparations.
It's
a
lack
of
resources.
B
It's
a
lack
of
resources
in
our
community.
That's
the
problem!
The
police
got
too
much
money.
The
police
got
you
money,
the
ladies
talking
about
robots
park
and
what
it
looked
like
and
this
and
that
and
that
I'm
from
robles
park,
I'm
from
robles
park
and
what
it
looked
like.
They're
about
to
tear
down
robots
park
and
black
people
can't
go
back
in
there
after
they
tear
it
down.
Talk
about
that.
P
My
name
is
michelle:
caldwell,
I'm
a
property
manager,
one
of
the
communities,
so
I've
been
around
for
the
crime
free
program
for
a
while
now,
and
I've
actually
seen
the
differences
that
it
does
as
a
property
manager
to
the
community
for
the
morale
for
the
applicants
walking
into
the
communities.
P
P
The
way
that
the
crime
has
deducted
from
the
moment
that
I
started
working
there
to
the
point
that
applicants
are
flooding
in
because
we
are
securing
them,
giving
them
a
better
home.
Even
though
it
is
an
affordable
home.
The
fact
that
they
are
able
to
live
there
with
peace,
children
to
be
able
to
lead
play
outside
there's
so
many
things
that
have
come
good
from
this
and
as
far
as
the
evictions
is
far
from
true
that
that's
what
happens.
P
I've
seen
police
officers
come
in
and
help
hand
in
hand
with
minors
who
have
done
things
and
speak
to
them
and
try
to
lead
them
in
a
better
path
versus
directly
going
to
an
eviction
because
of
a
crime.
Evictions
don't
happen
that
way.
Unfortunately,
property
managers
are
not
able
to
just
evict
someone
due
to
a
crime.
There
is
a
lot
of
steps
that
come
into
that
situation,
where
we
need
to
do
our
job
correctly
and
the
police
department
that
crime
free
is
just
a
resource
just
like
the
fire
department
and
anyone
else
who
helps
us.
P
It's
not
something
that
we
use
to
be
able
to
get
people
out
of
their
homes,
and
I
do
want
to
represent
a
lot
of
people
who
follow
the
program
correctly.
Not
only
does
it
make
the
community
a
better
look,
but
it
does
make
community
peaceful.
I
have
residents
who
have
been
there
for
years,
who
are
grateful
for
the
police
for
the
resources
that
have
actually
been
provided
to
them
in
these
homes,
because
they
don't
have
anywhere
else
to
go,
because
these
are
the
homes
that
they
can
afford.
P
J
P
P
Good
morning,
yvette
lewis,
president
of
the
hillsborough
county,
naacp,
the
naacp,
want
safe
communities.
Earlier
I
heard
interim
chief
ruben
delgado
say:
don't
take
the
program
away,
we've
made
a
few
mistakes
wow,
but
yet
you
put
whole
families
out
because
one
person
made
a
mistake
so
that
whole
family
gets
punished.
Okay,
let's
hold
that
this
is
a
clear
violation
of
people's
civil
rights,
because
they're
not
even
afforded
the
opportunity
for
due
process.
P
This
program
allows
tampa
police
department
to
continue
to
over
police
and
overstep
their
authority.
When
it
comes
to
poor
people
and
the
african-american
community,
the
police
say
the
police
would
say
we
didn't,
we
don't
teach.
I
mean
we
don't
tell
them
to
evict
the
people,
but
yet
you
train
them
and
you
teach
them
how
to
evict
the
people.
You
have
a
training,
video
that
teaches
them
what
to
say
and
how
to
say
it
in
order
to
get
these
people
out
again,
the
naacp
want
safe
communities.
P
P
I
am
asking
that
you
stop
this
program
until
we
are
assured
that
the
people's
rights
are
not
being
violated
again.
The
naacp
wants
safe
communities.
This
is
another
biking,
wild
black,
but
let's
call
it
something
different.
A
ace
is
the
ace
of
the
spade
of
spade
we're
renting,
while
black
in
the
city
of
tampa.
Thank
you.
M
Oh
wow,
that
was
a
tough
one
to
come
after
that,
one
hello,
my
name
is
jeanette
semi
day
and
I'm
here
to
represent
not
only
managers
but
I'm
also
a
resident.
M
I've
been
a
property
manager
for
over
20
years.
My
main
role
and
goal
is
always
to
provide
a
safe,
clean
environment
for
families
and
their
guests,
and
also
for
my
staff.
I
understand
the
need
for
change
due
to
political
reasons,
but
we're
taking
a
chance
on
safety
and
I'm
going
to
talk
on
both
sides.
Again,
I'm
not
a
homeowner,
I'm
also
a
renter.
So
I
totally
understand
it's
not
fair.
You
know
people
are
saying
that
for
whole
families
of
being
evicted
due
to
there's
rules
and
regulations.
M
There's
leases
there's
lease
violations
me
personally.
I've
never
evicted
anyone
just
because
an
officer
said
you
should
evict
them
lease
violations.
Leases
are
terminated
or
families
are
evicted
based
on
lease
violations.
It's
not
because
of
whatever
criminal
activity.
It's
based
on
the
violations
of
their
lease.
It's
clear
black
and
white.
You
cannot
do
x,
y
and
z,
while
you're
living
here,
although
I
understand
that
evicting
one
person
out
of
a
household,
it
affects
the
whole
household
and
yes
that
maybe
needs
to
be
worked
on.
Maybe
it's
not
fair,
but
let's
be
realistic.
M
If
I
say
that
your
little
cousin
is
not
supposed
to
be
in
your
house,
chances
are
the
family's
going
to
protect
the
little
cousin
and
say
no
they're,
not
there
they're,
not
there.
So
now
the
rest
of
my
community
is
in
danger,
because
this
one
family
is
protecting.
You
know
the
one
person
that
we
don't
want
on
the
property.
I
do
believe
in
second
chance.
We
all
deserve
a
second
chance,
but
we
do
have
to
follow
rules
and
regulations.
Bottom
line
is
they're
in
there
for
a
reason.
M
Again,
I've
always
used
the
communication
with
the
police
not
to
evict
but,
like
I
said
just
to
help
determine
whether
it's
grounds
for
eviction
or
not,
but
again
the
nature
of
the
crime
or
way
was
that
it's
not.
The
reason
for
eviction
is
lease
violations
lease
violations.
M
That's
pretty
much
all
that
I
have
to
say
the
program
works.
It
has
worked
for
me.
I
actually
come
from
new
york,
they
had
it
out
there.
It
worked
out
there
so
yeah.
I
think
we
need
to
keep
it
on
and
maintain.
It
maybe
needs
to
be
tweaked.
Maybe
not
the
whole
family
needs
to
be
evicted,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
everyone
needs
to
follow
rules
and
regulations.
C
C
My
concerns
is
that,
in
regards
to
this
bill,
this
addendum
where's
the
transparency.
C
How
was
it
created,
who's
it
affecting
and
what
the
outcomes
and
what
the?
What
is
the
success
of
this
pro
of
this
of
this
program?
What's
the
success
of
it?
Just
listening
to
the
different
tenants,
people
that
have
speak
have
spoken
before
me.
It
is
clear
to
me
that,
in
regards
to
the
transparency
or
the
the
education
around
it,
a
lot
of
people
don't
know.
C
This
is
about
letters
being
sent
to
an
apartment
complex
that
is
involved
with
this
program
until
2019
or
I
don't
know
when
the
verbiage
of
eviction
was
taken
out,
but
prior
to
the
changes
and
people
being
evicted,
the
culture
was
already
created
so
whether
they
changed
the
verbiage
on
it.
Those
people
that
were
already
involved
in
that
in
the
program
they
already
have
the
culture
in
their
mind
that
these
people
should
be
evicted.
C
Our
organization
has
been
working
on
evictions
for
a
year
and
a
half.
Now
it
doesn't
take
anything
for
a
landlord
landlords,
have
a
whole
lot
of
rights
and
tenants
don't
so
it
doesn't
take
a
whole
lot
for
a
landlord
to
evict
somebody
whether
they
want
to
go
downtown
and
do
it
or
they
go
and
tell
the
tenant
that
they
that
they're
they're
gonna
get
evicted
nine
times
out
of
ten
with
our
community.
C
When
there's
an
eviction
they
get
up
and
leave,
so
they
don't
fall.
They
don't
go
through
a
due
process.
They
don't
sit
and
and
feel
like
figure
out
what
their
rights
are
and
so
forth.
I
have
issues
with
the
chief
stating
the
co.
The
program
focus
on
criminal
behavior.
This
is
all
the
program
focus
on
criminal
behavior
would
be
that
that
person
is
in
jail,
that
family
should
not
be
evicted
if
there.
C
If
there's
no
changes
to
this
or
the
establishment
is
not
want
to
do
any
changes
to
this.
I
think
the
the
city
council
should
put
a
motion
out
for
this
program
to
be
defunded
and
defunded.
The
money
that
this
program
is
is
taken
up
could
be
for
the
family
that
mother
that
was
concerned
about
her
son
or
her
daughter
and
couldn't
get
help
because
they
didn't
have
an
eviction.
I
mean.
C
C
Good
morning
connie
burton
we've
seen
all
this
before.
This
is
nothing
brand.
New
we've
had
a
read
and
see
program
that
was
specifically
attached
to
the
black
community,
where
the
worst
of
the
worst
was
plucked
out
and
given
extensive
prison
time,
because
we
was
going
to
revamp
our
communities
but
the
same
cries
and
the
same
tears
still
exist
in
our
community.
C
So
the
mere
mention
of
drugs
being
in
around
channel
side
drive.
I
recall
hearing
about
a
couple
of
months
ago
that
conversation
was
immediately
shut
down
because
you
don't
want
that
type
of
stigma
established
or
connected
to
various
apartment,
complex
inside
of
this
city,
but
out
of
all
the
department
complexes
in
the
city
of
tampa,
only
42,
predominantly
black
communities
are
attached
to
this
program.
So
the
question
always
is
in
my
mind:
where
do
poor
white
families
live
and
how
is
their
issues
resolved?
C
So
we
messed
up
is
what
I
hear
the
police
saying
this
morning,
but
I
don't
hear
the
corrective
action
that
occurred
to
now:
families
that
are
living
inside
of
hotels,
paying
almost
three
four
hundred
dollars
a
week
trying
to
get
needed
assistance.
Nobody
seemed
to
be
caring
about
the
downward
spiral
effect,
you're,
not
able
to
go
out
to
one
apartment
complex
in
this
city,
with
any
city
authority
to
shut
them
down.
C
But
you
come
along
with
these
type
of
programs
talking
about
giving
people
better
quality
of
life.
A
better
quality
of
life
would
start
with
people
being
able
to
live
in
dignity
and
that's
what
you
never
want
to
concentrate
on.
So
yes,
people
want
to
have
a
crime-free
community,
but
a
crime-free
community
will
be
first
restoring
dignity
into
housing
instead
of
always
having
punitive
punishment
on
black
people.
C
A
E
I
want
to
explain
something
about
all
this
that
is
going
on,
because
a
lot
of
people
are
confused
about.
What's
going
on,
look
these
projects
and
the
hoods
have
been
torn
down,
so
you
can
get
better
housing
you're
sitting
in
hotels
right
now,
so
that
they
can
move
you
into
better
hall
scene.
I
don't
comprehend
why
you
want
to
still
save
violent
and
keep
the
violence
going
on,
and
why
is
of
the
brown
skin
and
black
people?
Why
are
you
continuing
with
the
hate
when
I
said,
cut
the
hate
out?
E
It's
not
a
white
and
black
thing
anymore,
and
you
don't
want
to
comprehend.
What's
going
on
with
the
police
and
or
the
sheriffs
or
anything
else,
right
now
comprehend
as
a
law
king
in
the
play
since
2012,
we
are
trying
to
get
you
better
hall
scene.
I
comprehend
you
don't
have
any
money
right
now,
because
we're
trying
to
get
you
the
true
money
out
there.
Patience
is
a
virtue.
E
You
can't
keep
getting
mad
at
the
police
and
getting
mad
at
the
sheriffs
and
getting
mad
at
the
people.
Trying
to
protect
you
and
that
other
first
responders
trying
to
help
you
have
a
better
quality
of
life.
Yes,
you
want
to
stay
in
the
hood
and
stand
together.
Don't
you
know
that
comes
from
hitler
time?
E
And
in
order
for
things
to
get
done
correctly,
yes,
we're
gonna
need
for
dance
to
get
cleared
out
and
look.
They
didn't
mean
the
whole
families
they
meant
for
this
to
be
done
on
an
individual
basis.
The
one
committing
the
heinous
miscreation
look
we're
coming
out
with
a
decriminalization
list.
As
of
what
is
the
true
drugs
coming
out
by
the
pharmaceutical
companies
and
what
is
true
crime.
That
means
I
don't
want.
E
C
C
This
program,
councilman
gools-
you
spoke
about
passion
earlier
this
program
is
my
passion.
Even
the
residents
can
speak
on
it.
I
hear
them
talking
about
poor
people
and
african-american,
I'm
both
and
I'm
standing
here
today.
So
the
crime
free
program
is
needed.
Don't
take
away
the
program,
it's
my
passion.
Thank
you.
F
L
I
G
Chairman
yesterday,
she'll
be
recognized.
I
spoke
with
ms
lucas
and
she
informs
me
that
there
are
two
people
specifically
on
this
item.
Virtually
got.
I
I
Do
we
notice,
sir,
do
we
notice
we'll
go
to
the
phones.
C
T
Hi,
can
you
hear
me?
Okay?
Yes,
sir,
we
can
hear
you.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Good
morning,
mr
chairman
council
and
members
of
the
public,
my
name
is
justin
de
carroll,
I'm
a
student
advocate
with
the
nyu
civil
rights
clinic
and
I'm
speaking
today
on
behalf
of
clinton
to
begin,
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
I'm
sympathetic
to
what's
been
said
by
the
residents
about
the
need
for
safety,
but
removal
of
this
program
does
not
mean
that
the
police
can
no
longer
be
president
in
those
communities.
T
Since
mayor
caster
initiated
it
as
the
city's
chief
of
police
in
2013,
it's
been
used
to
push
marginalized
individuals
and
their
families
out
of
their
homes
and
communities.
The
discriminatory
impact
of
this
program
is
clear.
Crystal
clear,
90
of
the
people
flagged
by
this
program
have
been
black
tenants.
T
This
is
a
statistic
so
staggering
that
I
find
it
surprising.
Our
calls
for
remedy
have
been
met
with
any
resistance
at
all
mayor
castro
recently
announced
that
reforms
will
be
made
to
the
crime
free
housing
program,
but
making
minor
adjustments
to
the
program's
administration
does
nothing
to
address
the
harm
that
has
already
occurred
because
of
this
program
and
that
will
undoubtedly
continue
to
occur.
T
The
damage
has
already
been
done.
Police
conducted
training
for
landlords
and
property
owners
actively
encouraging
them
to
adopt
the
very
crime
lease
addendums,
which
the
mayor
and
the
tampa
bay
police
have
since
admitted
were
wrong.
These
discriminatory
lease
provisions
remain
in
place
today
and
they're
being
used
against
black
tenants,
and
they
have
not
been
addressed
by
tampa.
T
City
council
cannot
defer
to
the
tampa
bay
police
department
in
this
matter.
The
program
should
be
eliminated,
but
even
striking
the
program
in
its
entirety
does
little
to
remedy
the
ongoing
harm,
because
these
discriminatory
practices
were
firmly
embedded
into
the
tampa
bay
rental
market
and
will
continue
with
or
without
the
active
assistance
of
the
tampa
bay
police.
Without
a
concerted
effort
to
rectify
the
damage
already
done.
These
new
changes
amount
to
nothing.
Little
more
than
symbolic
action.
T
C
I
All
right,
thank
you
all
right,
gentlemen,
we'll
go
round
robin
mr
vera
you're
up
first,
sir,.
K
And
sir,
are
we
entertaining
questions
or
just
statements
and
thoughts
or
either.
K
The
landing
I
appreciate
it,
sir,
you
know
so
much
to
say
after
that
public
comment.
A
lot
of
folks
spoke
with
with
passion
on
different
perspectives.
I
want
to
say
for
people
that
live
in
these
effective,
these
affected
communities.
You
know
the
the
issue
we're
discussing
here,
in
my
opinion,
is
not
on
issues
like
defunding
the
police
or
anything
like
that.
I've
always
been
a
a
strong
opponent
of
of
that
idea
and
whatnot.
For
me,
this
is
a
much
more
narrowly
tailored
issue.
K
You
know,
since
I
first
read
the
tampa
bay
times
article.
I
had
great
concerns
on
the
program
made
inquiries.
I
think
the
administration,
including
chief
delgado
who's,
a
fine
gentleman
and
many
others
for
speaking
with
me
on
it.
I
sought
out
individuals
in
the
administration
in
the
community
etc,
and
ultimately
I
came
down
to
the
conclusion
that
you
know
you.
K
You
take
a
look
at
the
program
where
it's
at
right
now,
where,
in
my
opinion,
as
I'll
discuss,
I
think
it
needs
a
lot
more
scrutiny,
oversight
and
a
level
of
continued
substantial
change
in
in
my
opinion.
But
when
you
look
at
the
last
eight
years
in
terms
of
where
the
program
has
been,
it
makes
that
scrutiny
in
that
investigation,
necessary
and
even
much
more
compelling
put.
K
Otherwise,
when
you
take
a
look
at
the
life
of
the
program
over
the
last
six
or
seven
years,
it
has
certainly
helped
a
lot
of
folks
and
and
there's
things
there
that
we
heard
about
from
the
community.
But
it's
also
served
for
the
100
or
so
individuals
who
were
affected
negatively
based
upon
misdemeanors
for
the
several
dozen
folks
who
were
affected
negatively
after
having
arrested
were
dismissed
for
the
couple
of
folks.
I
think
there
were
only
two
who
were
affected
with
driving
suspensions
and
driving
infractions.
K
It
served
to
worsen
existing
social
inequalities
and
to
make
put
police
officers,
in
effect
in
a
system
where
they're
playing
a
role
that
I
think
goes
contrary
and,
in
fact,
they're
playing
a
a
pardon
role
in
in
in
a
long
process
where
I
don't
think
they
should
necessarily
be
involved
in
in
an
era
when
we
talk
about
things
like
inequality,
social
injustice,
mass
incarceration,
etc.
K
A
program
like
this
is
very,
very,
very
relevant
to
talk
about.
Do
we
need
to
go
after
crime?
Absolutely
absolutely.
In
fact,
in
hearing
a
lot
of
the
folks
in
the
community
talk
today,
you
know
we
need
to
engage
on
that
a
lot
of
times
when
you
talk
about
anti-crime
programs,
things
don't
necessarily
go
one
way
or
the
other
there's
a
lot
of
unintended
consequences.
K
There's
a
lot
of
gray
we're
here
to
talk
about
the
gray
for
me,
this
basic
program,
whether
how
it
existed
eight
years
ago,
whether
how
it
existed
six
months
ago,
how
it
existed
today
rests
on
a
on
a
foundation
that
is,
at
the
very
least,
cracked.
That
foundation
may
very
well
exist
for
more
violent
crimes
for
things
like
drug
trafficking,
but
we
all
have
to
admit
that
that
foundation
is
cracked.
Why?
Because
it
deals
with
number
one
or
arrests
and
allegations
not
convictions.
K
That's
part
of
the
crack
foundation
and
number
two.
It's
vicarious
liability,
which
is
the
act
of
one
person
in
your
household,
will
affect
all
of
the
household
to
the
cost
of
what
housing
a
potential
part
in
an
eviction.
That's
something
that
we
have
to
express
to
me.
This
program
should
not
go
forward
on
autopilot
without
strict
scrutiny
on
the
part
of
city
council.
I'll
talk
about
that,
we
need
scrutiny,
count
our
chairman,
goodes.
I
saw
your
memo.
K
I
was
in
support
of
the
sentiments
expressed
in
the
memo
given
the
history
of
this
program,
which
includes
100
people
who
were
included
for
misdemeanors
dozens
more
whose
charges
were
dropped,
etc.
We
do
need
scrutiny.
What
I
would
suggest
and
what
I
envision
in
that
regard
is
at
the
very
least
because
again
city
council,
we
can
make
our
opinions
known,
but
there
are
certain
things
that
we
don't
have
that
are
binding.
K
What
can
we
do?
That's
finding
scrutiny,
which
would
include
a
report
back
to
us
within
90
days,
six
months
after
that
and
at
the
very
least
again
to
the
extent
the
program
goes
forward
on
a
yearly
basis.
We
need
continued
serious
dialogue
with
stakeholders
in
a
manner
that
is
not
reactive
but
proactive,
and
why
is
that?
Because
of
the
history
of
the
program,
and
by
history
I
don't
mean
1980,
I
mean
2013
14,
15,
16,
17
18,
with
things
that
wound
up
having
some
detrimental
effects.
K
We
need
to
also
say
that
things
like
this
will
never
happen
again.
We've
said
that
before,
and
yet
we're
here
with
this,
this
to
me
is-
is
a
program
that,
when
it
started,
was
bad
policy
with
on
and
may
I
have
one
more
minute,
mr
chair,
thank
you,
sir,
with
with
unintended
consequences,
people
who
say
that
the
city
started
this
program
with
bad
intent.
I
respectfully
disagree.
This
has
a
lot
of
programs
that
mean
well
have
unintended
consequences
and
we
have
to
look
in
a
very,
very
serious
way.
K
Whenever
it
comes
to
these
unintended
consequences,
we
can
fight
crime
while
being
made
aware
of
the
unintended
consequences
of
programs
with
the
capacity
to
stop
look
at
that
program
and
see
how
we
can
be
made
better,
as
as
in
talking
with
stakeholders,
taking
a
look
at
the
unintended
consequences
and
either
seeing
if
we
can
mitigate
the
unintended
consequences
or
we
have
to
repeal
and
replace
whichever
way
it
goes.
It's
part
of
a
dialogue
that
we
have
to
have
again
when
I
read
the
tampa
bay
times
article
and
talked
to
folks,
etc.
K
It
was
something
that
very
much
so
disturbed
me.
For
me,
this
is
not
an
issue
on
whether
or
not
we
are
in
favor
of
public
safety
or
in
support
of
law
enforcement
officers.
Anyone
who
would
say
that
I
am
against
public
safety
or
don't
support
law
enforcement
officers
might
as
well
say
that
involved
to
me.
This
is
about
an
issue
of
policy
and
how
we
go
towards
an
effective
fight
against
crime
in
standing
with
those
folks
who
came
here
to
speak
today
from
these
neighborhoods.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Mr.
H
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman.
You
know,
there's
a
there's,
a
question
on
a
job
invocation.
For
example,
with
your
ass,
have
you
ever
been
arrested?
There's
a
difference
between.
Have
you
ever
been
arrested
and
have
you
ever
been
convicted
of
a
crime?
So,
as
councilman
vieira
mentioned
you
know,
we've
had
arrests
in
situations,
but
the
charges
may
have
been
dropped,
but
the
fact
is
there
was
an
arrest
in
that
arrest
is
enough
of
a
penalty.
That's
caused
the
damage.
We
talk
about
the
homeless
situation.
H
We
talk
about
the
need
for
affordable
housing,
yet
we
have
a
policy
in
place
that
when
someone
one
person
one
member
of
a
family,
gets
in
trouble,
an
entire
family
is
punished
and
therefore
they're
evicted
and
we've
seen
that,
because
that
is,
I
think,
it's
a
terrible
policy
to
punish
everybody
for
the
mistake
of
one
person.
H
I
think
it's
it's
way
too
out
there.
I
know
we
want
to
fight
crime.
We
want
to
reduce
the
numbers
and
crime.
I
understand
that
you
know
there
were
maybe
good
intentions
for
this
program,
but
look
at
the
effects
of
it.
Look
at
how
many
people
are
affected
by
this.
Perhaps
the
situation
was
solved
for
the
neighbors
or
the
apartment,
complex
or
whatever,
but
an
entire
family.
In
many
cases,.
H
I
understand
that
there
have
been
may
have
been
discussion
of
suspending
this,
at
least
temporarily,
to
reevaluate
things.
I
understand
that
the
mayor
has
proposed
different
changes,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
the
policy
is
not
good.
I
mean
I
would
rather
say
the
policy
is
not
perfect.
There
are
many
mistakes,
but
these
mistakes
have
have
had
dire
consequences
for
a
lot
of
people.
Thank
you.
L
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
the
first
of
all,
I
want
to
say
similar
to
my
colleagues.
You
know
I
support
the
men
and
women
in
our
officers
in
uniform
and
also
support
public
safety.
We
need
public
safety
in
our
community
and
people
in
tampa
remember
a
time
when
there
wasn't
public
safety
as
there
is
now,
but
for
the
minute,
the
hard-working
men
and
women
who
wear
uniform,
they
don't
set
policies.
The
mayor's
office
chief
and
city
council
set
policies,
and
so
whatever
I
or
we
may
say
about
policies.
L
L
The
times
and
credible
opening
and
others
have
outlined
them
in
great
detail,
and
the
public
can
read
it,
but
there
are
a
couple
that
I
want
to
highlight
in
particular.
Number
one
is
that
innocent
people
were
punished:
it's
not
fair
to
punish
innocent
people
and
whatever
we
say
about
what
the
intent
of
the
program
was.
L
Second,
I
wonder
what
is
the
effectiveness
of
kicking
people
out
of
their
homes,
even
if
they've
committed
a
misdemeanor
or
something
like
that?
I
totally
agree
with
with
preventing
crime.
But
the
question
is:
where
did
the
people
go?
You
know
you,
I'm
a
data
person,
I
haven't
been
presented
any
data,
and-
and
I
maybe
we
should
have
a
whole
workshop
on
the
data
for
this,
because
you
know
the
way
you
set
your
model
and
the
way
you
look
at
the
data
effects
affects
what
this
means.
Where
did
the
people
go?
L
Does
that
mean
that
if
they
move
from
one
neighborhood,
did
your
to
your
survey
just
look
at
crime
within
a
certain
radius
and
then,
if
they
moved
to
another
neighborhood,
did
crime
go
up
in
that
neighborhood
or
did
they
move
outside
the
city
limit?
So
now
the
crime
is
in
is
in
the
county
and-
and
we
need
to
look
at
that
carefully-
several
folks
have
talked
about
how
the
violent
crime
rate
has
gone
up
in
tampa.
Is
it
because
that
now
people
with
misdemeanors
don't
have
a
place
to
live?
L
Have
we
have?
We
kicked
people
instead
of
addressing
the
the
issues
directly?
We've
not
only
hurt
the
lives,
we've
hurt
the
lives
of
of
their
entire
families
and
and
we've
hurt
innocent
people
for
things
that
that
that
they
didn't
do.
Third,
the
powerpoint,
which
has
been
listed
in
the
media,
I'm
told,
came
through
public
records.
It
was
incredibly
offensive.
L
I
mean
it's
the
kind
of
thing
that
that
is
used
by
the
worst
regimes
in
countries
around
the
world
and
and
we
we
cannot
have
communication
like
that
in
and
around
our
city.
It's
it's
horrible
that
that
anyone
would
have
said
those
things
and
and
whether
the
powerpoint
was
used
regularly
or
not.
The
messaging
is
important
was
any
of
that
messaging
used.
I
I
appreciate
the
changes
that
were
made
in
2019.
L
This
administration
changed
the
policies
of
the
past
and
there
were
a
lot
of
problems
and
policies
in
the
past
that
we've
talked
about
before.
If
you
string
these
together,
there's
lots
of
problems,
but
I
think
this
program
should
end.
I
think
we
should
absolutely
end
it
and
we
need
to
come
up
with
other
solutions,
and
this
needs
to
be
done
by
ordinance,
not
by
a
program
or
executive
order.
L
I
agree
with
the
times
editorial
that
we
need
in-depth
review.
L
We
need
to
look
at
real
data
and
understand
what
whether
this
really
does
make
a
difference
or
not,
and
we
need
to
at
least
get
annual
updates,
and
I
have
a
motion
I
can
make
later
if
you
all
want,
but
I
have
one
last
question
chief
del
del
delgado
could
could
you
please
tell
us
several
folks
in
the
community
have
alleged
that
that
the
tpd
or
the
city
picked
up
people
in
neighborhoods
this
morning
and
brought
them
to
city
council
to
speak,
and
then
we
just
saw
the
photographer
taking
pictures
only
of
the
people
who
apparently
agreed
with
the
with
this
policy.
L
Q
No
sir,
and
I'm
not
sure
what
you're
with
the
driving
I
don't
know,
but
I
can
tell
you
we're
not
trying
to
sway
anything.
They
had
people
that
were
passionate
and
wanted
to
give
their
opinion
and
as
far
as
the
picture
thing,
I
think
that
might
have
been
me
walking
back
here
back
here,
but
it's
we're
taking
pictures
of
the
pub
of
the
officer
of
the
month
as
well.
So.
L
O
Mr
chair,
thank
you
very
much.
I
I've
got
I've
got
some
questions
about
this
and
I'm
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
from
the
top
down
how
this
program
came
about,
and
I'm
wondering
why
representatives
from
hud
and
tampa
housing
authority
aren't
here.
I
Mr
moore
was
asked
to
be
here.
I
had
lunch
coffee
with
him
yesterday
morning
asked
him,
but
we
went
so
long,
so
he
probably
had
other
things
to
do
right,
but.
O
This
isn't
just
a
tampa
police
department
issue.
Yes,
tampa
police
department
was
there
to
assist
in
a
in
okay
as
assistant
in
in
this
these
procedures,
but
it
all
came
from
hud
down
the
tap
housing
authority
and
private
apartment
owners
who
this
program
is
running
through.
O
O
R
Audrey
leeroy
moore,
tampa
housing
authority.
I've
been
on
since
nine
o'clock.
I
was
just
waiting
to
recall,
but
thank
you
so
much
good
morning
again,
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
it
clear
that
I
speak
today
solely
on
thj's
eviction
process
and
how
it
sometimes
intersects
with
the
city's
crime
free
housing
program.
R
R
We
have
about
7
000
families
still
waiting
for
their
opportunity
to
be
housed
in
places
they
can
afford,
live
peacefully
and
raise
families.
We
have
a
public
responsibility
and
a
federal
obligation
to
enforce
the
lease
and
ensure
that
our
housing
is
safe
and
available
to
persons
who
will
not
threaten
the
welfare
of
others
more
directly
to
the
crime.
Free
multi-housing
program
understand
that
thj
has
never
blindly
filed
eviction
cases
because
of
tpd
notice
of
criminal
activity.
R
R
R
We
have
over
45
people
in
that
one
department
who
case
manage
our
families,
who
support
transport
council,
console
and
navigate
those
families
in
distress
toward
programs
and
services
to
stabilize
their
families
and
promote
greater
substitutions
lee's
termination
when
a
family
has
an
engagement
with
the
criminal
justice
program.
Is
the
last
resort,
not
the
first
or
the
second
that
we
exercise.
I
wanted
to
make
it
very
clear
that
the
housing
authority
since
2018
has
been
part
of
this
program.
R
Once
we
exited
the
public
housing
program
and
converted
our
inventory
to
rail
assistance
demonstration,
we
were
no
longer
covered
under
the
federal,
much
stricter
on
strike
and
you're
out
policy
which
actually
existed
here
up
until
2018
when
we
actually
moved
into
the
crime,
free,
multi
housing
program
and
just
to
reiterate
once
again,
this
is
one
of
the
many
tools
that
we
use
in
order
to
determine.
R
What's
going
on
on
our
family
with
our
families,
and
we
always
provide
support,
we
provide
counsel,
we
provide
repayment
agreements,
we
provide
stipulations
on
leases
and
in
most
cases
your
families
will
have
three
or
four
infractions
before
we
actually
go
to
the
point
of
eviction.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
council
was
aware
of
that
and
prepared
to
ask
me.
I
But
since
you
chimed
in
I'm
going
to
left
council
members
who
may
have
questions
and
to
reference
to
your
establishment,
what
what
really
goes
on
if
they
have
any
questions,
so,
mr
you
were
already
asking
you're
first,
if
you
have
any
questions,
mr
moisture,
mr.
O
I
O
R
No,
no,
no
just
just
to
repeat
that
before
2018
we
were
all
of
our
properties
were
considered
public
housing,
subsidized
properties.
Now
they're
considered
section
8
subsidized
properties
under
the
public
housing
rule,
we
were
required
to
include
at
least
what's
called
the
one
strike
policy:
okay,
okay,.
O
Mr
moore,
I
I
I
I
stand
corrected.
I
thank
you
very
much
when,
when
the
leases
are
written,
are
they
handed
down?
Excuse
me:
are
they
written
by
tampa
housing
authority,
and
I.
D
R
No,
no,
our
partnership
began
with
tpd,
specifically
under
the
crime
free
program
in
2018.
When
we
applied
to
be
part
of
that
program,
because
we
were
no
longer
under
the
one
strike
requirement,
we
saw
it
as
a
program
that
actually
primarily
gave
us.
You
know
tpd's
council,
to
our
public
safety
staff
to
literally
walk
the
site
survey,
the
site
do
an
inspection
of
the
site
and
give
a
september
recommendation
crime
prevention
for
environmental
design
recommendations.
It
resulted
in
us
having
to
actually
make
improvements
to
our
sites,
such
as
lighting
levels.
R
You
know
the
types
of
lots
we
utilize
the
way
we
manage
our
master,
key
site
system,
etc,
and
then
it
provided
training
to
our
families
on
sorry
to
our
to
our
lease
staff,
and
then
it
also
gave
gave
them
the
partnership
with
us
to
actually
be
able
to
educate
our
community
as
well
on
crime
prevention
strategies.
R
O
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
thank
you,
mr
moore,
for
for
joining
us
today
and
for
for
all
you
do
in
the
community.
Just
a
couple
of
quick
clarifications.
Leroy
chief
delgado
said
that
currently
there's
42
complexes,
probably
large
and
small,
throughout
the
city
that
are
involved
in
this.
How
many
of
those
would
be
your
yours,
how
you
know
five
ten.
R
The
the
one
primary
one
that
I
know
of
is
robles
park.
I
think
jl
young
is
another
one.
So
my
public
safety
director
is
advising
me
that
12
total
have
now
completed
that
process
in
order
to
be
able
to
use
the
prime
free
use.
J
Okay,
when
I
looked
at
the
map
that
that
was
shown
to
us
earlier,
chief
and
mr
moore,
I
have
one
more
question
for
you.
When
I
looked
at
the
map
earlier,
it
showed
a
couple
in
south
tampa
that
appeared
to
me.
I
think
they're
they're
owned
by
the
housing
authority,
the
one
the
one
down
there
off
interbay,
that's
relatively
new.
R
Yeah
I
saw
the
same
map.
It
did
look
like
it
was
it
was.
It
was
pointing
to
our
properties.
We
have
three
properties
in
south
tampa
gardens
of
south
bay
pageant
of
states
as
well
as
baysia
apartments.
J
So
so,
anyway,
my
my
my
other
question
is
so
let's
say:
arguably,
you've
got
maybe
five
or
ten
of
these
out
of
the
42
around
the
city.
So
you
can
speak
to
what
tampa
housing
authority
is,
is
doing
in
regard
to
your
due
process
and
that
sort
of
thing,
but
you
can't
speak
to
the
management
and
the
impact
of
crime
free
on
the
on
all
these
other
private
apartment
complexes.
Is
that
correct
much
more.
J
So-
and
I
think
that's
extremely
important,
mr
chairman,
because
I
don't
want
anybody
to
be
misled
and
I'm
and
leroy's
not
trying
to
mislead
them,
and
I
know
tpd's
not
trying
to
mislead
them,
but
but
tampa
housing
authority
has
let's
say
for
argument's
sake,
12
out
of
these
42
apartment
complexes
and
therefore
leaving
another
30
apartment
complexes
that
have
private
management
that
I'm
sure,
control
and
managed
crop
their
crime,
feed
program
30
different
ways,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
don't
know
exactly
what
that
is
we
don't
we
don't
know
how
they're
managing
it.
J
We
don't
know
what
the
impacts
are.
We
don't
know,
some
of
them
might
be
strict.
You
know
strict
and
say
one
strike,
you're
out
and
others
might
be
more
lenient,
but
let
me
get
back
to
some
of
the
bigger
issues
that
that's
all
I
had
do
you
want
to
circle
back
to
me,
or
do
you
want
to
finish
with
this
more.
I
Mr
moore,
anyone
else
have
questions
more.
I
Mr
d
default
alluded
to
a
good
point.
We
don't
know
what
maybe
some
of
the
private
people
are
doing,
but
the
vast
majority
of
complex
we're
taught
we've
been
talking
about
today
seem
to
be
public
housing
complexes
from
one
of
what
I've
heard
today.
They've
come
forth
to
speak,
so
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
people
know
housing
has
a
different
guideline
and
tpd
is
not
writing
evictions
for
you,
guys
or
they're,
not
encouraging
evictions
for
you
guys,
because
you
have
your
own
set
of
rules
on
housing
that
correct
sir.
I
All
right,
so
that's
the
bulk
of
my
question
on
for
mr
making
sure
that
we
have
a
distinction
of
tpe
is
not
involved
in
an
eviction
process
with
housing.
Again
we
don't
know
what
other
folks
are
doing,
but
the
vast
majority
of
the
complaints,
when
I'm
here
or
the
people
that
are
speaking
today,
I'm
apparently
talking
about
public
housing
from
what
I'm
hearing
today.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
we
clear
that
up
that
housing
has
a
different
perspective
of
what
they're
doing
they
have
other
different
rules
and
a
process.
I
Mr
dean
fought,
let
you
go
ahead
and
mister
what
else?
Mr
moore.
I
No,
it's
still,
mr
dean,
but
you
want
me
to
let
mr
moore
go
because
he's
been
on
waiting
for
a
long
time.
I
know
he's
a
busy
guy
over
the
housing,
so
any
more
questions
for
mr
moore
relates,
mr
moore.
We
thank
you
for
coming
explaining
what
public
housing
is
doing
as
it
relates
to
this
program,
and
we
appreciate
your
time,
sir.
R
I
R
J
So
it's
it's
sort
of
ironic
that
this
program
that
was
started
by
a
private
private
group,
non-profit
group
or
something
out
west,
you
know
called
themselves
crime
free
and
that's
a
that's,
an
admirable
goal.
Okay,
we
want.
We
want
this
community,
we
want
the
whole
world
to
be
crime,
free
and
and
how
you
get
to
to
the
point
of
being
crime.
Free
is
sort
of
a
continuum.
You
know
you
can
have
excellent
policing,
okay
and
and
that's
what
we
have
in
the
city
of
tampa.
J
We
have
excellent
policing,
but
then
at
a
certain
point
you
can
cross
a
line
and-
and
I
think
mr
vieira,
mr
mr
vasquez,
mr
carlson-
they
all
spoke
eloquently
about
crossing
the
line
and
and
and
sadly-
and
I
don't
mean
to
bring
up
bad
stuff,
but
sadly
some
people
mentioned
the
bicycling
program.
That
was
a
problematic
and
that
program
crossed
the
line
and
I
think
in
some
ways.
Historically,
this
program
has
crossed
the
line,
not
just
in
the
city
of
tampa,
but
in
2000
communities
across
the
country
and
louis
you,
you
said
it
the
best.
J
As
you
know,
it's
based
upon
a
preponderance
of
the
evidence
that
you
know
that
that
sort
of
thing,
but
it's
not
a
trial.
You
know
that's
why
our
system
is
great.
That's
why
our
system
is
what
it
is,
because
you're
you're
you're
arrested
first,
sadly
enough,
tragically
enough,
no
matter
where
it
is
whether
or
not
it's
an
apartment,
complex
or
on
bill,
carlson's
street.
You
know
that
sort
of
thing,
no
matter
where
it.
H
J
It's
tragic
for
all
everybody
involved,
but
it's
not
a
conviction
and
it
shouldn't
result
in
a
in
a
eviction
under
any
circumstances
and,
moreover,
the
government
shouldn't
be
involved
in
encouraging
that
eviction
based
upon
that
arrest,
not
until
there's
a
conviction
or
a
plea.
So
that
was
point
number
one
stated
by
at
least
three
of
my
fellow
council
members.
J
So
far,
maybe
more
to
come
and
the
other
point
and
louis
I
love
the
fact
that
you
use
the
word
vicarious
liability
which,
in
your
world
of
insurance
defense
and
that
sort
of
thing
is
but
but
let's,
let's
simplify
it.
Okay
am
I
responsible?
Should
the
entire
family
respond
be
responsible
and
suffer
an
eviction
or
even
a
potential
eviction
encouraged
by
the
government?
J
Okay,
because
one
of
the
family
members,
whether
or
not
it's
a
kid,
an
adult,
no
matter
who
it
is.
Okay-
has
has
gone
bad.
Okay,
if
they're
arrested
fine,
let
them
go
through
the
system.
If
they're
convicted,
fine,
okay,
if
they're
convicted,
then
it
becomes
public
record
okay.
What
what
the
apartment
complex
do
with
that?
That's
their
own
business
government
should
not
be
involved
in
encouraging
evictions
of
the
rest
of
this
family
because
of
that
arrest
or
and
or
conviction,
the
rest
of
the
family
should
not
have
to
suffer,
because
what
are
we
doing?
J
We're
just
moving
the
problem
around
somebody?
Mr
carlson
asked
the
question:
where
do
they
go?
Where
do
they
go
when
they,
when
they're
thrown
out
of
here?
Do
they
end
up
up
in
suitcase
c,
you
know
in
in
a
lesser
complex
or
or
some
worse
condition.
Do
they
end
up
out
on
the
streets
that
doesn't
help
anybody?
J
J
I
N
N
N
N
You
have
to
have
some
rules
and
some
respect
when
you
live
in
a
close
proximity
with
a
lot
of
people
living
in
that
proximity
where
you
live
at
which
we
don't
have
now.
That's
why
some
of
these
developments
have
gone
down
into
looking
to
houses
now
that
are
normal,
where
individual
the
middle
class
can
live
without
the
close,
come
find
them.
Somebody
else.
N
Number
four:
I
remember
the
project
manager
named
mr
hagerty.
He
was
a
retired
sheriff,
deputy
or
somewhere
up
in
the
chain
of
the
sheriff
department
and
the
little
guy
named
louis,
who
was
in
charge
of
keeping
everybody
happy
and
doing
the
right
thing,
and
I
remember,
on
thursday
nights
at
the
housing
projects
at
the
office
on
18th
and
26th
avenue.
They
have
movies
for
you
and
they
give
you
an
ice
cream
or
icicle
or
something
so
you
could
come
in
and
they
could
talk
to
you
and
you
see
a
movie
of
some
sort.
N
That
was
before
even
tv
just
about
so
I
was
highly
educated.
You
don't
have
to
be
smart
to
understand.
What's
going
on,
you
see
when
you're
young
it
ain't.
What
you
want
to
do
is
what
you
see.
Others
do
when
you're
growing
up
that
you
want
to
do,
because
if
they
have
a
bankroll
and
you
ain't
got
two
cents
to
do
something,
you
want
to
do
the
same
thing,
they're
doing
and
there's
where
the
problem
comes.
N
If
we
talk
all
about
the
police
department,
we
talk
about
the
rights
of
the
people,
the
rights
there
are
rights
and
there
really
is
no
rights.
I
remember
when,
and
even
mr
moore
and
the
good
people
working
at
the
housing
authority
now
don't
realize
what
happened
back
in
the
50s,
but
I
can
tell
you
if
your
lawn
was
a
mode.
This
is
not
about
drugs.
They
give
you
notice
to
mow
your
lung.
N
N
So
I
have
to
go
to
my
skates
and
go
to
my
grandmother's
house
from
sanchez
street
pick
up
a
lawnmower,
put
it
behind
me
and
roll
it
all
the
way
to
26th
and
20th
the
mow,
the
lawn,
so
those
set
of
rules
that
you
have
to
follow.
If
not
they
take
you
out,
the
same
thing
applies
today:
it's
not
about
liberal
or
strict
it's
about.
What's
right,
what's
wrong
and
between
those
two
things:
the
feds.
N
In
fact,
the
federal
government
anti-drug
remember
that
the
drug
king,
this
that
the
other
they
didn't
allow
you
to
smoke
marijuana
now.
They're
selling
it
to
you
to
make
for
profit,
so
all
these
things
are
happening
and
this
ridiculous
earth
that
we
live
in
that
we're
trying
to
destroy
little
by
little
one
day
at
a
time,
so
we're
just
as
bad
as
any
animal
on
the
earth.
N
We
create
things,
shoot
things
we
didn't
have
guns,
but
guns,
then,
was
something
no
one
could
have
other
than
those
that
were
in
law
enforcement
and
such
and
people
that
can
afford
to
buy
them.
There
was
never
a
law
that
says
you
couldn't
buy
a
gun
problem.
Is
nobody
had
the
money
to
buy
one
now
you
have
gun
shows,
I
don't
remember,
no
gun
show
growing
up.
I
also
remember
no
violence
on
tv.
N
I
also
remember
no
violence
on
this,
something
that
you
have
now
your
phone.
Every
everywhere
you
turn
the
kids
are
being
raised
to
see
people
die,
you
can
buy
a
one
of
those
little
things
you
play
on
the
tv
and
everybody
dies,
but
you
so
you're
grown
up
in
this
world.
That's
confusing
to
you!
So
you
go
buy
a
gun,
but
when
you're
a
kid
you
memorize
that
everybody
that
you
shot,
they
were
up
the
next
day
playing
around
again
the
little
miniature
things
of
mickey
mouse
donald
duck.
They
didn't
fight.
N
N
The
law
that
I
grew
up
in
your
mother
and
father
were
the
lawyers
your
mother
and
father
was
the
doctor.
Your
mother
and
father
was
a
law
enforcement
officer
and
your
family
was
the
jury,
and
let
me
tell
you
something
by
the
time.
I
did
something
wrong
by
the
time
I
got
home
my
aunt,
my
mother,
my
uncle
my
cousin,
everybody
knew
about
it,
even
though
there
was
no
cell
phones.
N
So
if
I
have
one
more
ministry,
whether
you're
talking
about
individual
rights,
what
about
other
people
that
live
right
next
to
this
drug
deal
or
whatever?
He
is
that
you're
talking
about
now
for
eviction?
What
rights
do
they
have?
What
whites
are
being
violated
by
the
people
who
live
there?
Who
kid
is
seeing
this
here,
four
or
five
year
old
and
he
sees
a
bankroll
a
couple
of
hundred
dollars
or
whatever,
and
he
ain't
got
a
dime
to
go,
buy
anything.
What
do
you
think
he
or
she
going
to
do?
N
N
N
No
one
can
say
what's
right
and
what's
wrong
other
than
one
word
parenting,
and
if
you,
the
parents,
can't
handle
the
kid.
How
is
the
officer?
How
is
the
city
going
to
handle
a
kid
when
you
yourself
have
them
all
the
time
and
they're
uncontrollable?
I
remember
what
my
father
gave
me
one
time
a
dime
and
I
asked
him
what's
the
time
for
daddy
and
he
said
if
you
get
in
trouble,
call
somebody
else
and
that
set
the
tone.
N
I
I
Okay,
those
councilmembers,
don't
know
what
kano
court
is
remember
how
the
old
belmont
heights
and
college
your
apartments
were:
it's
a
war
zone
over
there
until
miss
chloe
conan.
Her
group
came
in
and
changed
that
whole
dynamics
of
belmont's
estates.
Now
so
you
have
to
be
able
to
be
on
the
ground
zero
to
understand
how
it
really
works.
I
I
worked
in
robert's
park
when
I
see
those
old
ladies
there
when
you
have
people
on
those
corners
and
the
family
next
to
him,
the
mom
and
dad
or
the
mom
knows
that
her
kids
are
doing
all
kind
of
treacherous
and
dangerous
things,
but
yet
it
affects
the
people
next
door
where
they
can't
come
outside
or
the
kids
can't
go
to
the
bus.
Stop
because
the
bully
house
right
there
they're
beating
up
all
the
kids,
they
come
home
hell.
No,
I
want
them
in
there.
I
I
want
them
out
they're,
kids
and
all
because
they're
not
being
productive
citizens
in
that
community
people
talk
about.
You
know
it's
a
right
to
have
housing
and
a
privilege
yeah,
it's
a
right
to
have
housing.
Everyone
deserves
housing,
but
when
you
get
it
and
you
live
there,
it's
a
privilege
now
at
that
point
that
you
keeping
you
do
the
right
thing
to
the
citizen
and
follow
the
rules.
It
ain't
just
about
people
having
drugs.
I
There
are
other
issues
that
come
along
with
that
that
are
not
good
stewards
to
their
leasing,
they're,
not
doing
what
they're
supposed
to
do
with
their
lease.
It
ain't
just
the
police
going
there.
If
they
I
understand,
there
was
some
issues
they
kept
fixing
and
fixing
them.
But
what
I'm
hearing
now
is
they
have
no
part
of
the
eviction
process,
they're
strictly
on
the
landlord
who's
handling
the
eviction
process.
This
default
to
your
point
is
right.
Housing
has
told
us
what
their
process
is.
I
I
don't
know
what
the
other
30
housing
private
developers
have,
but
what
I
do
know
it's
that's
their
lease
and
if
I'm
a
property
owner
it's
my
right,
my
lease
and
I
can
put
what
I
want
in
my
lease-
don't
look
different
if
you
own
the
house,
mr
vieira
and
it's
your
house,
and
you
have
certain
rules
that
you're
not
going
to
have
people
doing
certain
things
at
your
house
in
your
lease.
I
I
So
I
I
I
hear
you,
gentlemen,
and
I
respect
that
and
I
respect
that's
why
I
asked
for
a
90-day
look
and
evaluation
of
the
program.
So
if
these
council
members
had
an
issue
because
my
understanding
and
I
don't
know
if
legals
listen,
we
do
not
have
an
ordinance.
It
is
strictly
a
program
that
the
police
department
came
up
with.
That
is
my
understanding.
So
there's
no
city
ordinance,
I'm
not
for
killing
the
program
that
I
know
can
help
some
apartment
complexes.
I
I've
had
numerous
calls
from
a
lot
of
landlords
saying
that
we
have
no
refuge,
because
we
had
nothing
in
place
were
some
of
the
things
bad.
Maybe
so,
what's
the
people
taking
advantage
of,
because
maybe
so,
but
the
police
department
recognized
that
I
don't
encourage
any
family
to
be
kicked
out
anywhere.
I
But
if
I
got
a
house
that
a
family
is
terrorizing
that
community
they
lost
their
privilege
to
live
there,
we
gave
them
the
rights
to
having
a
place
and
I'm
sorry
and
I'm
not
I'm
sorry,
but
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
to
justify
having
somebody
terrorizing
people.
I
got
senior
citizens
come
here.
I
understand
the
police
department
they
do
that
when
they
have
an
issue,
they
bring
people
who
those
folks
they
don't
have
cars,
so
they
brought
those
people,
be
it
right
or
wrong.
They're
different
those
people
wanted
to
come
and
speak.
I
They
had
a
choice
of
saying.
I
don't
want
to
come
to
speak
or
I
do
that
was
their
choice,
we're
being
encouraged
or
not.
They
chose
to
come
before
us
no
different
than
the
other
people
who
came
voluntarily
before
the
rising,
which
are
very
good
friends
of
mine,
and
I
understand
some
of
their
concerns
and
issues.
I
I
understand
some
of
the
concerns
of
some
of
the
actors
that
were
here
as
well,
but
I
still
attest.
It
is
a
right
to
have
housing.
It
totally
is
and
we
we
have
some
challenges
in
our
city
to
provide
housing.
That's
why
this
council
has
told
administrators.
We
want
more
money
going
to
affordable
house
period
to
get
people
in
housing,
but
at
the
same
token,
people
have
to
be
good
stewards
of
their
housing.
It's
no
different!
If
you
lived
on
the
street,
there
is
no
person
on
this
council.
I
If
they
were,
we
had
two
houses
on
a
block
that
they
lived
on.
That
would
tolerate
anybody
doing
anything
mischievous
if
they
had
a
landlord,
because
they'd
be
raising
him
with
that
landlord
to
get
those
people
out
family
and
all
family
and
all
get
them
out
of
our
neighborhood
get
them
off
of
our
block.
I
I
Police
department
is
not
in
that
they
just
to
me
notified
with
his
noaa
notice.
Some
person
was
arrested.
What
the
apartment
complex
does
is
on
the
bus
government
is
not
involved.
At
that
point,
my
understanding
right,
mr
chief
delgado,
that's
you're,
correct,
sir,
so
basically
we
give
that
notice.
They
were
arrested
on
property.
The
landlord
does
whatever,
so
they
violate
their
lease
with
the
landlord.
Then
they
got
nothing
to
do
with
tpd.
Q
At
all,
you're
correct-
and
I
think
we
heard
from
hud
explain
that
that
that's
not
the
sole
reason
for
any
of
the
evictions,
and
if
you
don't,
I
just
want
to
make
one
quick
comment,
because
I'm
hearing
a
lot
about
the
notice
of
arrest
and
being
the
catalyst
to
the
evictions,
and
I
think
we're
making
a
lot
of
assumptions
here.
Based
on
that
article,
that
aren't
just
we
talk
about
being
data
driven.
Q
Q
I
haven't
seen
the
data
on
that
side
of
it
that
that's
the
sole
reason
why
somebody
got
evicted
again.
It's
simply
a
public
record
document
we're
providing
the
landlords
and
the
managers
of
the
department
complex
and,
to
your
point,
sir.
It's
just
one
tool
that
they
use
to
make
their
own
decisions.
I
Now,
what
I
will
say
as
it
relates
to
it
all
is
that
in
my
original
letter
to
the
mayor,
I
think
everyone
needs
to
be
at
the
table.
I
know
some
councilmembers
have
some
concerns
about
the
program
and
what
we
want
to
end
the
program,
but
I
believe
we
have
to
have
some
form
of
program
to
be
able
to
help
citizens
the
landlords
as
well.
I
We
have
to
have
something.
I
don't
know
what
that
something
totally
is
at
this
particular
point
until
all
minds
come
together
and
they
come
out
in
all
communities
in
all
apartment
complexes
in
the
city
of
tampa
know
what
the
rules
are
and
know
how
we
operate
now
how
they
operate.
We
can't
control
some
of
the
things
they
do,
but
we
can
control
what
we
may
put
out
or
the
information
that
we
may
provide.
I
So
that's
gonna
leave
me
my
comments
right
now
and
my
concerns.
I
I'm
willing
to
to
listen
to
some
of
the
motions,
but
in
my
mind
I
pretty
much
know
where
I
think
it
needs
to
go
to
get
this
thing
moving
in
the
right
direction.
For
all.
I
don't
know
anybody
I'll
go
with
round
two
or
if
we
want
to
wrap
this
up,
it's
12
or
we
want
to
go
entertain
some
motion
with
some
possible
amendments.
L
There
are
a
lot
of
motion.
Thank
you,
sir.
There
are
a
lot
of
motions
I'd
like
to
make,
but
I
what
I
would
like
to
propose
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
legal
staff
returned
to
city
council
on
november
4th
with
a
draft
ordinance
that
would
say
something
to
the
effect
of
the
following:
no
city
staff,
no
city
staff
person
may
be
involved
in
any
part
of
the
process
of
evicting
a
resident
of
an
apartment
or
dwelling
based
on
the
crime
of
another
person
in
that
household.
L
No
city
staff
person
may
be
involved
in
any
part
of
the
process
of
evicting
a
resident
of
an
apartment
or
dwelling
based
on
the
crime
of
another
person
in
that
household.
The
purpose
of
this
is
to
protect
innocent
people
and,
if
you're,
presenting
powerpoint
slides
that
tell
landlords
to
to
weed
people
out,
then
then
you're
you're,
in
effect
involved
in
the
process
in
some
way,
and
I
and
maybe
we
strengthened
the
charter
when
several
of
us
were
on
the
charter
committee
a
few
years
ago,
but
but
we
have
to
protect
innocent
people.
L
Several
people
talked
about
innocent
until
proven
guilty,
even
if
even
if
a
child
in
the
house
was
proven
guilty,
the
rest
of
the
family
was
never
charged
with
anything,
and
it's
not
fair
to
the
rest
of
family
that
that
happened.
So
it
is
up
to
the
landlords
ultimately
to
make
the
decision.
All
this
is
saying
is
that
the
city
staff,
and
not
just
police
but
city
staff,
should
not
be
involved
in
the
process
of
kicking
out
innocent
people.
Thank
you.
N
Chairman,
thank
you
chairman.
I
I
understand
what
mr
carlson
is
saying,
but
I
can't
support
that
because
it's
like
saying
that
no
city
employee
can
get
fired
because
his
family
can't
survive.
I
can't
do
that
because
I
don't.
I
don't
know
what
what
the
city
employee
they
got
terminated
for
whatever
can't
be
tournament,
because
you've
got
a
family
to
raise
you
can't,
I
can't
fix
the
world.
N
I
understand
all
that,
but
somewhere
along
the
line,
we
must
have
some
guidelines
and
some
rules
and
regulations
or
where
we're
going
and
how
are
you
going
to
get
there?
And
what
are
you
doing?
I
I
can't
support
something
that
just
throwing
out
a
fish
net,
hoping
you
catch
some
fish.
I
I
can't
do
that,
but
if
you
know
what
the
rules
are
no
matter,
what
it
is,
listen,
there's
only
nine
innings
in
the
ball
game,
you
can
go
into
overtime,
there's
only
four
quarters
in
a
basketball
game,
there's
only
two
halves.
N
In
a
I
mean
a
baseball
game,
there's
only
two
halves
in
a
quarter
and
there's
three
periods
in
a
hockey
game,
but
you
can't
just
say
you
know,
I'm
going
to
change
that
because
I
want
to.
There
are
rules
and
regulations
that
you
play
within.
There
are
penalties
and
any
sport
there
is,
and
I'm
not
comparing
this
to
a
sporting
event.
But
I'm
just
saying
if
you
spear
somebody
with
a
helmet
you're
ejected
for
the
next
game,
also
there's
penalties
that
you
have
to
be
pay
the
consequences
for
what
someone
does.
N
N
I
don't
know
what
they
are.
They
have
to
become
consensus
to
the
middle
and
find
out
exactly
where
we're
heading.
In
what
direction-
and
I
understand
he's
doing
it
for
the
rights
of
the
people-
and
I
understand
all
that-
but
somewhere
along
the
line-
somebody's
got
to
be
responsible
for
your
own
action
and
if
you
know
going
in
what
the
actions
are
and
somebody
does
it
wrong,
then
you
violated
the
action
you
violated
the
rule.
N
You
violated
the
facts,
you
know,
if
you
speed,
they
can't
catch
all
speeders
or
you
catch
you
one
time
you
say.
Oh
you
caught
me.
No,
no
you've
been
speeding
all
your
life,
it
just
caught
you
for
one
time,
but
that's
the
problem
we
have
in
society
and
I
just
can't
support
a
motion
that
doesn't
have
something
with
penalties.
Thank
you.
I
You
got
off
track.
There
was
a
motion
on
the
floor.
The
foul
rules
does
that.
Is
there
a
second
for
mr
carlson.
I
J
Mr
carlson,
I
think
I
think,
philosophically
I
agree
with
the
direction
you're
headed.
J
Procedurally,
I
don't
know
that
it's
necessary.
I
I
think
the
the
program
was
was
not
good
prior
to
2018.
I
think
it's
been
improved
after
2018.
I
think
it's
been
improved
now
and
so
what
I
would
like
to
see,
instead
of
us
going
to
the
process
of
actually,
you
know
draft
drafting
sort
of
a
black
and
white
ordinance.
J
I
would
like
to
see
and
and
I'll
make
an
alternative
motion
that
tpd
returned
to
city
council
during
staff
reports
on
december,
2nd,
which
is
approximately
60
days
and
and
and
come
up
and
in
writing.
Okay,
very
formal
in
writing
just
like
they
do
on
so
many
other
programs.
What
the
new
program
what's
left.
What's
left
of
the
new
of
this
program
and,
as
I
said
earlier,
I'd
love
us
to
rid
our
names
of
of
crime
free.
J
I
don't
want
to
be
associated
with
that
other
group
because
I
think
they're
tainted,
but
that's
not
even
part
of
my
motion
I'll
leave
that
up
to
you
guys,
but
my
motion
is
with
tpd
to
take
all
this
input.
Return
to
city
council
during
staff
reports
probably
take
more
than
five
minutes
on
december,
2nd
to
give
us
an
update
on
what
we
have
left
and
where
we're
going
with
it
at
that
point
in
time.
J
Mr
carlson,
if
we're
not
satisfied
with
the
with
where,
with
the
changes
that
have
been
made
and
the
changes
that
will
be
made
in
the
in
the
future
oversight
and
anything
else
like
that,
then
I
think
your
your
motion
I'll
second,
and
this
and
support
your
your
motion.
If
I'm
not
satisfied
with
where
they
are.
J
J
I
J
I
J
And
we
we
have
to
take
some
responsibility
and
I
take
responsibility
because
I'm
part
of
this
city
for
many
years
this
city
government
I'm
taking
responsibility
for
this.
This
was
not
good
policy,
okay
and
I
think
everybody
in
the
city
who's
involved,
whether
or
not
it's
city,
council
tpd,
the
mayor,
everybody
who
was
involved
in
this-
and
we
didn't
have
direct
knowledge
of
it.
But
we
are,
we
have
knowledge
of
it
now.
So
I
take
partial
responsibility
and
I
take
responsibility
to
help
you
guys
fix
it.
Q
G
G
I
G
You
have
what
you
hear.
What
you
have,
then,
is,
I
believe,
councilman
ding
felder
made
a
an
amended
motion
or
a
substitute.
G
Down
there,
someone
okay,
so
the
first
motion
was
made
in
second.
It
did.
The
second
motion
was
council
members,
dingbo
thing
folder's
motion,
which
was
also
seconded,
and
I
believe
that
takes
precedence
to
be
voted
upon
first
to
see
if
it
supersedes,
then
the
motion
that
was
previously
on
the
floor
can.
L
I
just
propose
amendment
to
that
motion.
Please
separate
a
separate
amendment
just
that
that,
in
addition,
tpd
in
their
presentation
explain
to
us
in
the
public
the
concise
data
about
how
they
think
this
is
these
policies
have
or
will
prevent
crime.
J
Sure
I'll
accept
that,
as
a
friendly
amendment
to
my
motion,
I
think
I
think
they
typically,
you
know,
try
and
provide
as
much
data
as
possible.
G
G
L
The
statement
has
been
made
that
that
this
program,
the
new
version
or
the
old
version
prevents
crime,
and
so
I
would
just
like
to
see
the
data
on
how
it
prevents
crime
and
and
or
how
sorry,
and
how
you
think
it
will
prevent
crime
in
the
future.
Okay,
fair
enough.
N
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
just
very
quickly
just
for
the
record
to
be
very
clean
in
my
mind
anyway.
I
Q
D
N
Q
N
N
B
Q
N
Q
N
J
Can
I
clarify
my
motion?
Yes
sure,
mr
chairman,
so
miss
moreno.
I'm
not
going
to
speak
to
ms
carlson's
motion
because
that's
a
separate
motion,
but
I'm
going
to
speak
my
mode.
My
motion
is
like
so
many
of
our
emotions
that
we
do
week
in
and
week
out,
which
is
to
all
departments,
including
tpd,
which
is
to
come
back
to
us
in
60
days
and
tell
us
what
this
new
program
is
going
to
be
about.
Yeah.
I
My
my
concern
is,
I
I
I'll
do
respect
mr
carlson.
I
think
we
don't
want
to
overload.
I
think
mr
igor
has
the
right
motion
and
I
think
that's
a
private
conversation
that
maybe
the
chief
can
meet
with
each
one
of
us,
while
they're
going
through
the
process
and
some
of
your
concerns
be
included,
so
they
can
be
able
to
know
if
they
can
provide
that
information
that
you're
asking
I
don't
know
if
they
can
provide
all
that.
I
So
that's
kind
of
where
the
general
parameter
I'm
seeing.
I
think
we
should
be
kind
of
moving
towards
that
that
way.
Everyone,
mr
vera,
has
something
else.
I
don't
want
to
just
keep
adding
amendments
amendments
on
something
I
really
just
said.
We
we
go
with
the
emotion.
The
suffocate
motion.
I
J
You
know
we're
not
asking
the
chief
to
go
out
and
do
some
massive
data
dig
prior
to
60
days,
but
any
data
that
the
chief
might
have
or
might
be
able
to
come
upon.
I
think
that
he'd
be
more
than
happy
to
bring
to
us
at
that
december
2nd
report
and
I
think
that's
the
intent
of
mr
carlson's
friendly
amendment.
O
Councilman
dink
felder,
as
I
said
earlier,
because
of
the
surge
in
gun
violence.
I
do
not
want
to
see
this
program
end.
However,
the
table
needs
to
be
full
of
everybody
involved
and
I
will
support
your
motion,
but
what
I'm
also
asking
that
you
do
is
include
the
tampa
housing
authority.
The
people
who
write
these
leases,
along
with
the
private
apart
a
representative
from
the
private
apartment
owners
that
write
these
leases
that
then
go
out
and
ask
tpd
to
assist
them
in
the
eviction
notice.
That's
all
I'm
asking
so.
I
L
L
Where
did
they
go?
We
don't
I
mean,
as
part
of
the
data
I'd
like
to
see
what
happened
to
all
these
families.
What
happened
to
all
these
individuals?
Where
are
they
living
now
and
to
the
second
point,
this
the
tbd
absolutely
has
been
involved
in
the
evictions.
We
saw
the
presentation
that
encouraged
evictions,
and
so
that
is
being
involved
in
it
and
just
because
they're,
not
the
ones
actually
kicking
them
out,
doesn't
mean
they
weren't
involved
in
the
eviction
process
and
now
why?
What
all
the
process
says
now
is
under
certain
rules?
L
L
For
the
purpose
of
them,
kicking
them
out
and-
and
if
in,
like
mr
good
said-
if,
if,
if
a,
if
a
tenant
is
causing
crime
and
they're,
disruptive
and
they're
they're
they're
they're
hurting
the
neighborhood,
they
absolutely
should
be
kicked
out,
but
innocent
families,
where
you
know
an
adult
brother
of
a
of
a
family.
Why
should
the
grandmother
parents
get
kicked
out
because
of
that
because
they
had
nothing
to
do
with
they
had
no
idea.
The
person
was
committing
a
crime.
L
We
were
putting
innocent
people
in
the
streets
and
there's
a
50
000
person
waiting
list
for
housing.
How
could
we
possibly
do
that?
So?
What
any
program
where
the
police
are
proactively
telling
landlords
is
a
is
means
that
we're
part
of
the
eviction
process,
and
so
we
have
to
take
responsibility
if
we
approve
that-
and
I
I'm
fine
that
we're
going
to
get
an
update
on
it,
but
I
think
we
have
to
be
honest
about
what's
really
happening
here.
Thank
you.
You
want
me
to
address
his.
J
All
right,
mr
sitro
offered
an
additional
friendly
amendment,
which
I.
J
Okay,
my
motion
is
for
tbd
to
come
back
during
staff
reports
on
december,
2nd
with
a
comprehensive
report
about
what
the
new
program
is
moving
forward.
It's
been
amended
and
I'll
accepted
the
amendment
from
mr
carlson
to
include
any
and
all
relevant
data
and
I'll
leave
it
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
Mr.
G
J
G
J
But
but
perhaps
it
will
have
a
different
future
name
but
anyway,
for
now
for
purposes
of
identification,
yes,
okay
and
and
then
and
then
the
data
part.
I
think,
as
we've
been
we've
we've
gone
through.
Mr
mr
citro
has
asked
to
include
a
represent,
or
at
least
an
invitation
to
representative
the
tampa
housing
authority,
as
well
as
perhaps
invitations
to
management
from
the
private.
J
Okay,
let's
go
with
them:
the
air
department
managers,
association
and
out
of
fairness,
I'm
going
to
add
to
that
list.
The
naacp.
J
Because
because
you
know
we
should
have
everybody
at
the
table
and
and
and
let's
let's
have
some
of
the
opponents
there
as
well.
So
so
that
would
be
part
part
of
that.
What
else?
Mr
shelby.
G
Mr
chairman,
here
I
guess
my
question
is
this:
now:
if
the
maker
of
the
initial
motion
wishes
to
withdraw
that
motion,
we
don't
have
to
have
whether
to
accept
the
amendment
or
not.
If
it's
the
maker
of
the
initial
motion
who
wants
to
have
that
vote,
then
the
motion
would
only
be
whether
to
accept
council
member
dingfeld's
amendment.
If
you
want
to
streamline
the
process,
you
can
withdraw
your
main
motion
and
you
can
withdraw
your
second
and
we
can
have
that.
G
N
I
I'm
not
disagreeing
with
the
attorney,
but
the
motion.
The
substitute
motion
takes
presence
over
the
motion
of
the
floor.
An
amendment
to
the
motion
does
not
take
in
my
judgment.
I'm
not
an
attorney.
A
substitute
motion
cannot
take
over
mr
denfeld's
original
motion
may
be
added
to
it,
but
it's
not
does
not
take
presence
over
his
motion.
Once
you
make
a
motion
on
mr
carlson's
original
motion,
then
that
substitute
motion
takes
presence
over
mr
carlton's
motion.
N
J
G
G
G
But
what
happens
is
if
I
say
to
you,
I
make
a
motion
that
the
light
is
red
and
somebody
seconds
it
and
then
somebody
else
says
I
make
a
motion
that
the
light
is
green
and
somebody
seconds
it.
You
don't
vote
on
the
light
is
green
motion
because
you
still
have
the
initial
motion
on
the
floor.
So
it's
a
two-step
process.
So
what.
G
If
it's
it's
up
to
the
maker
and
I'm
sorry
to
prolong
this,
but
the
rules
are
there
for
a
reason
is
to
make
the
process
transparent
and
fair.
L
L
Don't
think
that
we
should
vote
on
a
you.
Don't
think
that
we
have.
We
have
the
right
to
get
our
and
our
proposals
voted
on.
Mr.
I
I
I
want
every
council
member
to
feel
they
have
an
opportunity
to
do.
They
need
to
do
so.
If
this
is
the
case
at
this
particular
board,
mr
carlson
admit
that
he
wants
his
motion
to
be
voted
on.
Then
I
would
ask
that
mr
at
this
particular
point
at
this
time,
mr
dean
fellow
withdraw
his
motion
and
vote
on
the
original
emotion.
G
I
Withdrawn,
mr
carlson,
are
you
sure
I
want
to
give
you
opportunity
if
you
want
your
vote
on
sir,
we'll
pull
on
your
motion,
so
you
would
actually
draw
all
right
so
there's
a
motion
to
withdraw
mr
cross's
original
motion
and
to
accept
mr
dingfels's
substitute
one
month.
Discussion.
K
Mr
vieira,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
appreciate
it
just
some
thoughts
on
this.
If
I
may,
I
think
councilman
carlson's
motion
brings
up
some
good
points
which,
as
councilman
dingfelder
said,
may
become
viable
once
we
hear
that
report,
so
you
know
the
the
basic
idea
that
we
shouldn't
have.
Anyone
in
the
city
going
through
this
process
with
regards
to
evictions
is
a
good
principle
that,
even
if
it's
not
being
presently
carried
out,
is
a
good
principle
that
that
I
think
many
of
us
can
support
when
the
time
is
right.
K
For
so
that's
that's
that's!
That's
all
that
I
wanted
to
say,
which
is,
I
think,
there's
some
very
good
sentiments
that
are
brought
up
there,
etc
and-
and
I
think
what
we're
all
trying
to
do
with
what
many
of
us
are
trying
to
do
is
is
to
get
to
this
program
get
to
this
idea
here,
so
that
we
can
take
a
look
at
some
of
those
like.
K
I
talked
about
cracked
foundations,
right,
cracked
foundations,
so
that
we
can
have
a
program
that
that
effectively
combats
crime
without
take
without
having
some
of
those
detrimental
effects
that
we
talked
about.
That's
all.
I
wanted
to
say
so.
Thank
you,
sir
chief.
I
So
60
days
gonna
be
efficient
to
be
able
to
do
what
you
need
to
do.
I
originally
asked
for
90,
but
if
60
can
you
can
do
it,
then?
Okay,
it's
fun.
I
G
I
All
right,
so
mr
mcdean
has
made
a
motion
on
the
floor.
We
have
a
second
for
his
motion.
All
right,
mr
maniscal
got
the
second
roll
call
vote.
Please
messiah.
P
H
O
I
All
right,
gentlemen:
let's
go
ahead
and
let's
go
it's
12
30,
we'll
five
minutes
faster.
I
Let's
go
ahead
and
we'll
adjourn
for
lunch
me
back
here
at
I
don't
want
to
say,
not
gonna
give
us
much
time.
You
know
if
he's
125.