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B
Good
morning,
mr
chairman
city
council,
and
I
am
so
pleased
to
invite
miss
reverend
tiffany
willits
to
join
us
and
give
the
invocation
today,
reverend
willetts
grew
up
in
in
south
tampa
and
now
she's
the
pastor
at
seminole
heights
united
methodist
church,
which
is
celebrating
its
100th
anniversary
this
year.
B
Pastor
willets
has
served
there
for
the
past
three
years.
She
has
a
passion
for
connecting
the
church
and
community
and
during
her
time
in
seminole
heights
has
worked
with
local
schools,
neighborhood
organizations
and
community
leaders
to
develop
relationships
and
partnerships
throughout
seminole
heights
and
the
city
of
tampa
to
improve
the
lives
of
children
and
families.
B
C
D
Yes
good
morning,
mr
chairman
members
of
city
council,
martin
shelby
city
council
attorney,
as
the
chair
said
today,
is
thursday
september
2nd
and,
as
the
clerk
said,
you
do
have
a
physical
quorum
present,
and
this
meeting
of
the
tampa
city
council
is
being
conducted,
live
with
an
in-person
quorum
present
in
city
council
chambers.
However,
in
light
of
the
continuing
covet
19
government
issued
health
standards
or
gardens
now,
in
effect,
the
members
of
the
public
have
the
ability
to
participate
virtually
through
video
teleconferencing
referred
to
by
florida
statutes
and
rules
as
communications
media
technology.
D
D
Also,
if
those
individuals
who
do
not
have
access
to
communications
media
device
or
want
to
come
into
city
council,
they
do
have
the
option
of
participating
virtually
using
communications
media
technology,
which
is
being
made
available
to
the
public
by
the
city
of
tampa.
During
this
meeting
here
at
old
city
hall,
315
east
kennedy
boulevard
on
the
second
floor
and
please
be
reminded
that
use
of
masks
and
social
distancing
inside
the
building
are
encouraged
and
again.
D
Pursuant
to
council's
rules,
we'd
ask
council
at
this
time
to
make
a
motion
to
wave
at
standing
rules
and
adopt
the
rules
consistent
with
the
notice
of
today's
meeting,
as
set
forth
also
in
the
agenda.
So.
A
No
denim,
sir,
I
know
item
number
18
under
finance
committee
is
being
pulled,
but
that's
the
ding
filter
we'll
put
that
on
the
staff
reports.
A
D
And
that
is
an
encroachment
agreement.
D
Would
that
would
you
like
that
to
appear
back
on
the
consent
docket,
or
do
you
wish
to
have
that
under
staff
reports,
an
unfinished
business.
E
I'm
consent
docket.
If
we
could.
A
A
A
I
think
item
number
35
is
also
when
we
continue.
D
That
is
the
review
hearing.
Mr
chairman
item
number
35,
and
I'm
going
to
ask
council
to
please
take
that
up
sometime
shortly
after
10
30..
I
know
the
attorneys
involved
are
going
to
be
registered
and
available
for
the
discussion,
but
because
it
is
a
notice
public
hearing
after
we
open
it
at
10
30.
We
can
take
that
up
for
a
continuance.
A
Okay,
no
problem:
the
item
number
41
will
continue
for
september
30th.
The
staff
is
asking.
A
A
All
right
move
to
approve
the
agenda.
F
D
A
A
A
Mr,
I
don't
know
the
38th.
Thank
you
motion
that
you
need
staff
here
for
that,
sir.
G
No,
no,
I
do
not,
but
I
want
to
clarify
something.
If
I
may.
Yes,
sir,
I
did
not
want
a
memorial
in
each
park,
all
of
our
150
plus
parts.
My
motion,
I
think
there
was
a
mistake
somewhere.
My
motion
was
a
memorial
in
each
district,
which
they
did
so
I
thank
them
for
that.
I
can
talk
briefly
about
it
later,
but
just
to
clarify
I'm
not
looking
to
have
a
memorial
in
all
of
our
150
plus
parties.
A
G
G
A
A
Mr
manuscalco
or
number
39
with
39,
mr
chairman,
yes,
you
recognize.
B
Yeah-
and
I
don't
want
to
take
up
any
more
time,
but
I
just
want
to
give
a
shout
out
on
item
1339:
it's
like
a
71
page
report
from
the
stormwater
department
and
gene
duncan
and
and
vic
b
day
and
all
the
people
that
that
are
working
really
hard
on
the
storm
order.
People
complain
about
that
storm
order
fee,
but
if
they
read
that
report
they'll
see
that
great
things
are
being
done
all
across
the
city.
H
Number
40
they.
They
asked
us
to
narrow
the
scope
and
so
I'd
like
mr
o'hara
or
mr
massey
here
just
so.
We
have
a
motion
to
try
to
narrow
the
scope.
I
just
want
to.
A
I
A
A
H
Great,
I
have
the
great
privilege
today
to
introduce
mr
steve
swindle
he's
the
immediate
past,
chair
of
the
tampa
bay
or
sorry
port,
tampa
bay,
and
I
think
he
was
chair
for
four
years
and
but
was
on
the
board
longer
than
that,
and
many
people
over
many
years
thought
that
the
port
had
even
more
potential
than
it
has.
The
report
says
that
they
have
17
billion
in
economic
impact
and
and
they
re
they
result
in
85
000
jobs.
H
The
port
really,
arguably,
is
the
top
economic
engine
in
our
region
and
and
and
steve
with
paul
anderson.
We
have
the
ceo
of
the
port
here
and,
and
his
team
really
stepped
up
in
the
last
few
years
and
transformed
our
port
into
something
much
bigger
than
it
ever
was
before.
And
so
I'd
like
to
read
this
resolutions.
H
Tampa
city
council
wishes
to
award
this
combination
of
steve
swindoll
for
13
years
of
service
to
the
tampa
port
authority
serving
nearly
seven
years,
seven
or
four,
seven,
oh
seven
years
as
chairman,
sorry,
I
read
it
wrong
online
during
your
time
as
during
your
time
on
the
board
you
oversaw
implementation
and
completion
of
the
port,
strategic
and
master
plans,
safety
and
security
upgrades
and
several
environmental
projects,
improving
the
water
quality
of
tampa
bay
and
local
marine
life.
H
As
a
result
of
your
leadership,
the
port
saw
the
commencement
and
historic
growth
of
global
container
services,
including
direct
direct
weekly
service
between
asia
and
tampa
by
china,
ocean
shipping,
company
cmacgm,
mursk,
mediterranean
shipping,
company
and
zem
integrated
shipping
services
launch
of
a
new
weekly,
contain
not
launch
of
new
weekly
container
services
to
mexico.
The
city
of
tampa
wishes
to
thank
you
for
your
dedication
and
the
the
container
service
thing
is
something
that
lots
of
port
directors
and
lots
of
chairs
were
chasing
over
many
years
and
the
combination
of
steve
and
paul
and
their
team.
H
J
C
I
Very
quickly,
I
think,
councilmember
carlson
said
it
all,
as
the
port
is
our
greatest
economic
engine
in
this
in
this
area
and
for
this
region,
and
we
appreciate
you
and
your
service
on
the
board,
as
well
as
the
port
in
general,
the
leadership
I
see
the
team
there
and
we
just
want
to
say
thank
you.
E
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
Congratulations
as
I
said
earlier
that
I
congratulate
you
on
your
years
of
service,
and
I
know,
through
your
leadership
and
those
men
behind
you
that,
as
the
city
of
tampa
evolves,
so
will
the
number
one
economic
driver
of
this
area.
We
are
a
port
city
and
the
port
of
tampa
should
be
evolving
just
as
much
and
just
as
quickly
and
growing
as
much
of
the
city
of
tampa.
I
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you've
done
over
the
years.
Thank
you,
sir.
G
No,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
all
for
all
your
work
and
also
wanted
to
give
a
good
shout
out
to
a
gentleman
who
I
had
the
great
pleasure
of
meeting
with
you
all
when
I
was
first
elected,
who
is
now
where
secretary
of
commerce
jamal
sowell
who's
such
a
fine
gentleman,
a
nice
guy.
I
saw
him
a
couple
weeks
ago
in
tallahassee
and
he's
a
a
good
person
and
and
regardless
of
your
politics,
everybody
can
be
proud
of
of
his
life
and
what
he's
done?
Thank
you.
A
F
Steve
I've
known
you
when
I
had,
I
had
curls,
not
you,
you
still
look
young,
but
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
many
years
of
service,
not
only
as
the
leader
and
the
chair
of
your
board,
but
as
a
worker
behind
the
scenes
doing
everything
you
can
to
make
not
only
the
port
better
but
tampa
your
city
better.
We
want
to
thank
you
all
of
us
all.
Four
hundred
thousand
people
live
here
you
and
your
board
members
behind
you
and
everyone
who
works
in
the
port.
Thank
you
for
the
great
job.
B
Steve
it
was
great
catching
up
with
you
this
morning
earlier.
You
know
it's
funny.
Over
the
years
I
I've
just
seen
your
name
pop
up
in
so
many
different
contexts
of
service
around
our
community
and
like
our
fathers
as
rotarians,
we
continue
and
you
continue
to
serve,
serve
our
community
in
so
many
different
ways.
A
Again,
thank
you
for
all
your
work
and
again,
mr
carlson.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
this
gentleman
before
us,
so
we
can
recognize
those
who
have
done
a
great
work
in
the
city
of
tampa
and
again.
Thank
you,
sir.
H
C
Thank
you
bill.
Thank
you
so
much
and
thanks
for
your
time
today,
I
know
you
have
a
very
busy
schedule.
So
keep
it
brief.
Just
a
little
background,
I
was
appointed
by
three
different
governors
and
sat
on
the
board
with
three
different
tampa
mayors.
To
give
you
an
idea
of
my
longevity,
I
started
out
in
2008
with
a
global
recession
and
ended
in
2000
2021,
with
a
global
pandemic,
resulting
in
a
loss
of
20
percent
of
our
revenues
overnight
due
to
the
loss
of
the
cruise
industry.
C
But
the
strength
of
our
port
is
diversity.
We
have
one
of
the
most
diverse
ports
in
america.
We
all
know
about
phosphate.
We
grew
up
with
phosphate
fertilizer
related
products,
but
additionally
we
have
lumber
and
steel
and
rock.
We
just
started
bringing
in
refrigerated
vegetables
and
pineapples
on
a
weekly
basis
by
dole
coming
in
through
central
america
once
a
week
and
of
course,
as
bill
alluded
to
our
crowning
achievement,
was
getting
the
largest
global
carriers
in
the
world
to
come
to
tampa
and
has
put
tampa
on
the
global
logistics
map
forever.
C
C
A
All
right
we'll
let
the
exit
a
minute,
then
we'll
get
item
number
two.
I
think
mr
moran
is
on
his
way
down
to
second
floor
accommodation
for
retiring
chief,
dugan.
F
You
know,
mr
dugan,
when
I
look
back
at
your
career,
you
started
in
91,
correct,
correct
and
I
came
back
in
95.,
so
minus
four
years
you
and
I
have
really
worked
a
long
time
like
27
years,
one
way
or
the
other,
and
we
both
look
like
we're,
worn
out.
Look
at
your
head.
Look
at
my
head,
so
you
had
curls
and
I
had
curls
look
what
happened.
F
You
have
worn
this
uniform
of
the
best
police
organization
in
the
country
with
esteem
and
justifiable
pride
among
your
many
accomplishments,
of
which
some
were
very
delicate.
You
know
it's
not
easy
to
have
a
super
bowl,
a
stanley
cup
and
have
the
significant
organization
that
you
put
together
to
make
these
improvements
for
those
days.
Also,
however,
more
than
that
is
that
you
manage
an
operation
of
about
1100
personnel,
police
officers
and
other
duties
that
work
in
the
police
department.
F
That
is
very
difficult
to
do
because,
among
those
things
not
only
do
you
have
the
shifts
the
commanders,
the
people,
that
that
do
all
the
work
that
the
people
don't
even
recognize,
because
it's
24
7.
you're
passionate,
focuses
on
the
community
engagement
and
interaction,
as
well
as
cultivating
relationships
in
our
communities
that
help
reduce
crime
and
the
people
that
live
in
the
city
tampa
have
an
understanding,
a
better
understanding
of
what
police
work
is
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
F
F
They
all
had
a
different
way
of
presenting
themselves,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
they
will
have
one
thing
in
common:
they
wanted
to
make
the
city
of
tampa
a
safer
better
community
than
when
they
found
and
became
police
chief.
Thank
you
for
your
services
of
your
31
years.
The
city
of
tampa
is
very
appreciative
of
you.
Your
organization
thanks,
you,
the
city
council,
thanks
you
and
you're,
one
hell
of
a
guy.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
appreciate
it.
C
Good
morning,
thank
you,
council.
I
appreciate
this.
It
means
very
much
to
me,
but
you
know
I
have
to
tell
you
the
nice
words
that
were
said
about
me.
I
don't
deserve
any
of
that.
That
goes
to
the
hard-working
men
and
women
of
the
tampa
police
department.
You
know
they're
the.
H
C
C
G
G
I
I
was
about
my
son's
age
right
now
and-
and
I
and
I
don't
say
that,
obviously
to
say
that
anybody's
old
or
anything
just
to
say
that
it's
it's
a
long
time,
it's
a
very,
very
long
time,
there's
many
many
years
of
service,
you
would
have
started
in
1991
of
90,
more
or
less
whatever.
That
may
be,
and
you
know
you
you've
presided
over
some
big
challenges
for
the
city
of
tampa.
You
started
with
the
so-called
seminole
heights
killer.
G
Over
the
last
year,
we've
had
the
pandemic
civil
protests,
george
floyd,
and,
let's
not
forget
the
the
death
of
of
our
of
a
hero,
jesse
madsen,
you
you
had
to
play
the
role
of
of
comforter
in
chief
on
that
something
that
a
lot
of
people
shouldn't
forget
about.
I
I
remember
chief,
something
that
always
stuck
with
me
that
I
was
very
touched
by,
and
you
may
remember
this.
G
Maybe
you
don't
but
was
at
the
funeral
of
jesse
madison
when
you
had
a
lot
of
police
officers
behind
you,
you
had
a
lot
in
front
of
you
and
you
talked
about
the
difficult
time
that
we've
had
in
the
city
over
the
last
year
year
and
a
half
including
a
civil
protest,
coveted
so
many
police
officers
being
out
as
well
as
firefighters
or
first
responders
due
to
covet
and
you
nodded
to
the
men
and
women
in
front
of
you.
G
You're
turned
around
and
you
nodded
to
the
men
and
women
behind
you
and
you
did
that
to
salute
their
service
in
very,
very
difficult
times.
I
took
note
of
that.
I
was
very
very
touched
by
that.
Just
know
that
the
everyday
families
in
our
city,
the
vast
majority
99.9
percent,
support
the
work
of
law
enforcement.
G
You
know
you
you've
presided
over
so
many
different
times
as
police
chief
and
as
a
police
officer
there's
times
when
elected
officials
and
people
running
for
office
run
to
you,
because
they
want
to
get
their
picture
taken
with
you
and
there's
times
when
they
run
away
from
you,
you've
seen
both
you've
seen
both
a
lot
of
police
officers
and
folks
have
seen
both,
but
through
all
that
you've
always
served
the
public
and
just
for
me
and
from
all
of
tampa
city
council,
all
seven
of
us.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you
very
much.
Congratulations,
chief
on
on
your
retirement
and
your
almost
30
years
plus
of
of
service.
I
You
and
I
got
to
know
each
other
a
little
bit
when
seminal
heights
had
a
a
serial
killer
on
the
loose,
and
you
were
out
there
as
interim
chief,
and
you
know
just
the
way
you
you
served
and
organized
with
your
team
with
other
agencies
in
the
end
that
that
that
was
solved
and
the
neighborhood
became
a
safer
place
once
again
and
then
from
there
you
became
you
know,
chief
and
you've
served
in
that
capacity
since.
I
But
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
that,
as
interim
chief
or
as
chief
you've
always
been
there
in
a
leadership
position,
you
gave
it
your
all
from
the
beginning
under
mayor
buckhorn,
you
know-
and
that's
already
been
what
four
years
I
believe
or
or
more
at
this
time,
but
councilman
vieira
really
has
said
it
all.
You've
been
there
in
some
very
very
difficult
times.
This
has
not
been
an
easy
tenure
on
top
of
the
pandemic.
That
is
still
with
us
mind.
I
You
we've
had
a
lot
of
good
with
the
celebrations
as
tampa
bay,
but
I
think
you've
had
one
of
the
most
difficult
you
know
times
as
police
chief
and
I
think
you've
served
well.
So
I
appreciate
you
and
happy
retirement.
Thank
you,
sir.
E
Citroen,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair
chief.
I
thank
you
for
your
years
of
service.
It
wasn't
easy
coming
in,
as
chief
for
the
first
thing
you
got
to
see
was
a
hurricane
that
blew
most
of
the
water
out
of
north
tampa
bay,
but
also
a
serial
killer.
You
you
handled
yourself
well
and
what
is
going
to
be
the
mark
of
your
distinction.
E
Is
that
your
subordinates
respect
you
and
have
worked
well
with
you.
That
is
a
great
mark
to
have
go,
enjoy
your
time
with
your
with
your
wife
and
your
children.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair
chief.
It
didn't
surprise
me
that
your
your
very
your
speech
to
us
was
very
short
and
very
modest
and
very
understated,
because
that's
a
guy
that
that
I
know
is
brian
dugan
you.
You
are
consistently
praising
the
folks
that
are
standing
behind
you
and
the
other
thousand
people
who
work
with
you
and
work
for
you.
B
That's
who
you
are
you
and
I
first
got
to
know
each
other,
I
think,
during
the
republican
national
convention
and
to
make
sure
that
that
was
an
orderly
event,
but
an
event
where
protesters
had
the
right
to
to
express
their
first
amendment
freedoms,
and
we
agreed
on
that
and
because
you,
you
believe
in
those
freedoms
you
believe
in
in
our
nation,
you
believe
in
our
constitution
and
you've
and
you've
been
that
way
through
your
whole
career.
B
I
think
we're
sort
of
similar
because
you
and
I
both
kind
of
tell
it
like
it-
is
wasn't
that
howard
cosell,
we
tell
it
like
it
is,
and
sometimes
people
don't
appreciate
that.
But
but
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
we
sleep
better
because
of
it
chief.
I
know
I
for
one
will
miss
you
and
I
hope
I
hope,
you're
not
a
stranger.
A
Miranda's
now
he's
downstairs
so
mr
carlson's,
not
here
either.
So
let
me
just
finish
it
off.
Mr
vera
has
pretty
much
finished
it
off
everybody.
You
know
pretty
much
said
everything
that
needs
to
be
said.
We
appreciate
that,
but
someone
who's
been
there
when
you
first
came
in
91
and
you
know
the
trials
and
tribulations
of
the
police
department.
A
lot
of
people
know
there's
a
lot
of
ups
and
downs
in
the
place
a
lot
of
stressful
times.
You
know
dealing
with
family
dealing
with
all
the
different
issues.
A
G
Yes,
sir,
and
all
and
all
if
I
may
I'll
reserve
my
remarks
for
afterwards,
I
I
wanted
to
invite
our
friends
at
tampa
innovation
for
a
presentation
on
what's
going
on
over
in
the
north
tampa
area
with
regards
to
the
economic
development,
what
is
going
on
and
what's
not
going
on
out
there
and
there's
a
lot
of
good
things
that
are
happening
out
there
right
now
and-
and
I
wanted
to
invite
tamp
innovation
just
to
do
a
presentation-
a
brief
counsel
on
these
things,
because
this
is
something
you
may
not
always
see
it
out
there.
G
But
you
know
great
things
are
really
really
happening
out
there
and-
and
we
should
all
be
proud
of
that,
so
I'll
speak
after
a
bit.
Thank
you,
sir.
J
Hello
chairman,
good
morning,
council,
it's
great
to
be
with
you
this
morning.
I
really
want
to
thank
you
for
giving
us
time
on
a
busy
city
council
agenda
to
come
and
give
you
an
update
on
what's
going
on
in
the
uptown
area.
J
I
do
want
to
start
by
thanking
you
for
your
support
and
commitment
to
tampa's
uptown
and
the
tampa
city
staff
have
been
at
the
ready
and
to
advise
throughout
the
process,
and
I
particularly
want
to
recognize
rob
rosner
for
his
attention,
his
participation
in
the
working
group
for
the
strategic
action
planning
process.
If
I
could
share
my
screen,
I've
got
a
few
slides
I'd
like
to
show
they're,
not
free,
but
a
lot
better
than
looking
at
me
for
the
next
few
minutes.
So
do
I
have
permission
to
share
that?
Yes,.
J
Okay,
here
we
go
sorry
about
that.
No
problem,
all
right,
but
just
to
start
with
a
little
background.
This
process
started
back
in
december
of
2019
when
a
memorandum
of
understanding
was
reached
between
the
city
of
tampa
hillsborough
county
and
the
tampa
innovation
partnership,
and
it
called
for
a
completion
of
a
plan
by
the
end
of
2020.
J
These
ranged
from
community
safety
plans
to
gateway,
aesthetic
studies,
flat
studies
and
future
land
use
studies
along
various
corridors
and
sidewalk
gap
analysis,
just
to
mention
a
few
of
the
the
existing
plans
that
we
had
to
draw
from
objectives
toward
achieving
six
goals
that
I'm
about
to
share
with
you
were
defined
and
anticipated,
and
action.
J
The
work
group
completed
a
draft
early
this
summer
and
staffed
with
the
city
of
tampa
and
hillsborough
county
reviewed
the
draft,
and
we
held
several
meetings
to
discuss
next
steps
during
those
meetings.
The
consensus
was
reached
that,
due
to
the
complexity
of
the
plan,
the
sap
needed
to
be
reorganized.
The
recommendations
of
the
sap
needed
to
be
reorganized
into
three
implementation
plans
be
guided
by
the
entity
with
the
most
influence
over
those
realms.
J
Those
three
tracks
are
the
innovation
economy,
led
by
tampa
innovation,
partnership,
community
development
and
infrastructure
led
by
the
county
and
the
city
of
tampa
and
east
fowler
corridor.
East
fowler
avenue
corridor
repurposing,
which
is
led
by
fdot,
and
some
developments
in
each
of
these
tracks
are
already
in
progress
that
are
very
encouraging.
J
Recently
tampa
ip
launched,
the
soaring
city,
ip
501c3
organization
in
florida,
blue
has
made
a
750
000
commitment
to
soaring
city
ip
to
help
fight
generational
poverty
in
the
uptown
area,
and
a
lot
of
the
activities
that
come
under
that
brazilian
community's
partnership
program
will
address
some
of
the
objectives
in
the
strategic
action
plan.
J
J
The
transportation
planning
organization
is
currently
conducting
a
feasibility
study
for
a
usf
green
arterial
trail
that
would
connect
the
uptown
area
to
the
trail
network,
all
the
way
south
of
hillsboro
river
and
the
network
in
in
the
main
part
of
the
city
and
there's
a
survey
online
right
now,
gathering
feedback
from
the
community
and
we're
encouraging
all
of
our
contacts
at
the
neighborhood
associations
and
all
of
our
stakeholders
to
get
the
word
out
to
contribute
feedback
to
that
survey
and
in
the
east
fowler
track.
J
So
key
next
steps,
the
reorganization
and
revisions
to
the
strategic
action
plan
brass
have
been
shared
with
the
working
group
for
review
and
they're.
Looking
at
that
individually
right
now
and
we're
working
to
schedule
that
group
reconvene
for
discussion
and
approval
of
that
sac
document,
borrowing
any
need
for
additional
changes.
I
anticipate
that
the
sap
would
be
presentable
by
the
end
of
this
year.
J
Meanwhile,
implementation
of
action,
steps
for
objectives
and
goals
will
be
an
ongoing
process
that
will
continue
into
2022..
We
await
findings
of
the
infrastructure
assessment
that
I
mentioned.
Meanwhile,
hart
is
nearing
completion
of
a
transit-oriented
development
pilot
project
and
an
arterial
bus,
rapid
transit
study
that
both
extended
uptown
and
will
have
an
influence
on
several
of
the
goals
and
objectives
of
the
sap
and
the
pd
e
for
fowler
will
begin
in
earnest
in
2022,
after
vendor
selection
for
that
project.
J
G
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair
eddie.
Thank
you
for
that.
I
appreciate
it
a
great
deal.
You
know
whenever
I
talk
to
communities
in
north
tampa
area,
whether
it's
terrace
park
or
copeland
park
and
others,
one
of
the
big
questions
that
always
get
is
on
this
project
and
what's
going
on
with
it
just
last
night,
I
was
speaking
to
our
friends
at
copeland
park
and
this
issue
came
up
and,
and
I
was
able
to
give
them
a
briefing
in
part
based
on
your.
G
That
I
saw
over
here
and
I
I
really
appreciate-
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you
do
eddie
and
all
the
work
that
mark
sharp
and
eric
and
everybody
else
does
there.
You
know
this
is
something
that
you
guys
handle
with
vigor
and
mark.
I
I
always
have
such
a
soft
spot
for
mark
sharp.
G
I
always
joke
with
him
that
my
first
campaign
that
I
volunteered
for
as
a
kid
at
18
was
with
was
his
campaign
except
I
was
on
the
other
side
as
a
kid,
but
that's
jim
davis
there
too
too
funny.
But
you
know
this
is
part
for
me
of
a
larger
vision
for
the
north
tampa
area
that
we've
been
talking
about
here,
that's
starting
to
come
together
little
by
little,
that
has
it's
a
stool
that
has
different
legs
to
it.
G
You
know
the
the
one
that
you
all
are
talking
about
is
with
regards
to
economic
development,
having
a
narrative
for
the
area,
an
identity
for
the
area,
bringing
together
all
the
different
stakeholders,
something
we
talk
a
lot
about
at
city
council
that
we're
going
to
be
dealing.
Finally,
with
at
this
year's
budget
is
public
safety.
For
this
area,
something
that
is
just
as
critical
fire
needs,
etc.
G
Partic
for
the
north,
tampa
area,
the
bush
and
fowler
corridor,
something
that's
so
important.
It's
part
of
a
larger
dialogue
that
we
have
with
fdot
on
safe
streets,
part
of
a
larger
dialogue
that
we
have
with
regards
to
mass
transit
and
the
aspiration
that
we
had
in
2018
with
offer
transportation.
One
of
the
biggest
reasons
that
I
was
so
vocal
in
support
of
that
in
18
was
because
of
this
area.
G
G
I
remember,
after
the
the
unfortunate
riots
that
we
had
a
little
over
a
year
ago,
you
know
seeing
you
eddie
and
others
at
places
like
crossover,
church,
to
stand
with
the
community
and
and
to
help
us
rebuild
that
area,
the
fowler
area
and
parts
of
bush
area
that
were
attacked
at
that
time.
G
Y'all
played
a
real,
real,
pivotal
role
and
there's
so
many
different
stakeholders
that
always
like
to
highlight:
there's
not
only
the
the
businesses
and
and
that's
so
important,
but
you've
also
got
places
to
form
the
heart
and
soul
of
the
north.
Tampa
area
places
like
our
friends
at
crossover,
church,
pastor,
christopher
harris,
pastor,
tommy,
everybody
there
that
just
plays
such
a
pivotal
role
in
that
in
that
community
places
like
the
uac
dc,
sarah
combs
who's
running
her
own
little
new
deal
out
there
in
the
in
the
in
the
in
the
university
area.
G
You
know
planting
seeds
of
social
justice,
one
step
at
a
time
in
affordable
housing
and
so
many
different
issues
there.
You
know
lots
of
issues
to
discuss.
Like
I
said
you
know
the
the
issue
of
of
a
cra.
I
know
that
councilman
carlson,
councilman
miranda
have
talked
about
that.
You
know
before
in
in
in
respectful
opposition.
G
My
view
is,
and-
and
all
you
know
just
say
this
out
loud
so
to
speak-
is
that
we
have
already
a
process
going
and
starting
without
a
cra
to
begin
talks
at
this
time,
and
something
like
that
before
this
process
is
finished,
would
be
to
throw
a
monkey
wrench
into
something
that,
if
allowed
to
complete
itself,
it's
going
to
be
pretty
darn
good.
It's
going
to
be
pretty
darn
good,
in
other
words,
the
path
that
we're
going
on
is
calculated
to
lead
to
success
for
the
north
tampa
area.
G
I
believe
in
the
mou
I
believe
in
the
process
that
we
started
with
the
city.
We
also
got
to
commend
the
caster
administration,
because
the
caster
administration
has
really
stepped
up
in
in
a
great
way
that
prior
administrations
have
not
to
support
the
north
tampa
area.
By
entering
into
this
agreement
and
by
believing
in
this
agreement,
I
think
that's
so
important,
so
you
know
there's.
G
This
is
all
about
what
I
call
the
livability
agenda.
It
deals
with
public
safety.
It
deals
with
walkability.
It
deals
with
economic
growth.
It
deals
with
building
on
the
population
that
we
have
there:
a
population
of
working
families
paid
often
paycheck
to
paycheck,
etc.
A
lot
of
veterans
out
there
in
the
va
area
talking
about
the
face
of
the
area,
the
narrative
of
the
area.
G
What
is
what
is
the
area
going
to
be
promoted
as
to
the
outside
public,
when
you
have
the
the
first
impression
of
bush
and
fowler
that
people
come
into
the
city
of
tampa?
What
does
that
say
about
us
when
we
have
in
prior
terms
abandoned
that
area?
I
think
in
so
many
ways
whenever
it
comes
to
local
government,
so
there's
a
lot
of
different
things
I'll
be
making
a
motion
for
you
all
to
come
back
with
additional
information
because
we
need
to
when
motion
time
comes.
G
We
need
to
continue
and
I'm
cut
off
the
gong,
so
we
need
to
continue
and
I
need
to
shut
up,
go
ahead.
A
Thank
you,
mr
vera.
Mr
carlos
carlson
you're
working
there.
H
No,
I
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
most
important
projects
happening
in
tampa
and
I
think
council
member
vieira
for
bringing
them
in
I
personally
and
through
my
company,
have
been
sponsoring
their
efforts
going
back
since
the
beginning
of
this
iteration
six
or
eight
years
ago.
I
believe
strongly
in
developing
this
in
the
right
way.
What
does
it
mean
for
people
in
south
tampa?
There
are
a
lot
of
people
at
south
tampa
that
work
at
moffitt
that
work
at
usf
and
work
at
the
other
businesses
around.
H
There
are
people
that
go
to
doctors
up
in
that
area.
They're
they're
artists,
who
interact
with
the
activities
going
on
up
in
that
area
and
technology
workers
that
work
up
there,
and
so
I
think
this
area
is,
is
vital
for
connectivity
for
the
whole
city
and
and
what
we've
really
been
doing
is
looking
for
economic
engines
like
we
talked
about
the
port
a
little
while
ago
and
the
tremendous
advancements
it's
made.
But
this
area
has
a
tremendous
opportunity
to
be
an
engine
of
growth
for
our
entire
city
and
our
region.
H
People
always
wondered
about
the
connectivity
and
benefit
to
the
community
and,
with
the
careful
efforts
of
this
group,
they've
been
looking
at
connectivity
to
the
neighborhoods
and
enhancing
neighborhoods
in
quality
life,
but
they've
also
been
looking
at
how
to
be
an
economic
agent
and
start
entrepreneurial
companies
and
utilize
the
research
and
efforts
and
innovations
going
on
at
usf,
and
so
I
think
we
for
the
sake
of
the
city
and
the
region.
We
have
to
fully
support
it.
Councilmember
vieira
mentioned
cras.
H
I
talked
to
rob
rosner
and
other
folks
mark
sharp
and
others
around
it,
and
it
seems
like
there
are
a
lot
of
other
tools
that
can
be
used
and
rob
has
some
really
good
ideas
on
on
incentives
and
other
programs.
That
would
require
a
cra,
and
I
would
be
in
favor
of
supporting
those.
If
we
can
help
energize
this
project
and
energize
what's
happening,
because
it's
just
so
vitally
important
to
our
region,
thank
you.
E
E
I
don't
even
think
it
was
college
student
housing
until
you
got
down
to
fowler
avenue
since
then
there
is
is,
has
been
nothing
but
I
don't
want
to
say
failure,
but
you
had
university
square
mall
that
really
started
going
downhill
and
nothing
has
succeeded
up
in
that
area
this
plan.
Not
only
is
it
going
to
bring
businesses
industries
all
sorts
of
different
things
to
this
area,
but
is
also
going
to
promote
growth
and
employment
for
the
people
that
live
in
that
area,
and
for
that
reason
I
will
stand
behind.
E
F
I
just
want
to
say
thank
thank
you,
sir,
and
thank
mark
sharp
and
louis
vieira
for
doing
what
you
guys
have
done
out.
F
But
when
you
look
at
and
the
malls
were
mentioned
and
let's
face
reality,
time
changes
and
I'm
not
going
to
speak
as
long
as
mr
vieira.
But
I'm
going
to
take
a
couple
more
minutes
to
explain
the
ball.
If
I
did
I'd
be
wore
out.
But
let
me
just
say
this:
it
used
to
be
downtown
in
ebor
city.
That
was
the
only
two
hubs
you
can
buy
any
type
of
goods
and
you
had
some
neighborhood
that
had
some
other
stuff
in
it.
F
Then
you
had
two
malls
open
north
gate
and
britain
plaza
what
happened
to
downtown
in
nebor
city.
They
sunk,
because
people
wanted
a
new
ovens,
a
new
thing,
something
different
all
of
a
sudden.
Then
you
have
the
west
shore,
indoor
mall,
the
others
were
all
outdoor,
and
then
you
had
another
mall
and
another
mall
indoor.
What
happened
to
the
ones
at
northgate
and
the
one
britain
plaza
they
sunk
down
a
little
bit
they've
come
back,
don't
get
me
wrong,
however.
Now
you
have
a
different
thing
called
stay
home.
F
F
So
what
happened
at
your
mall
is
no
different.
It's
happening
now
at
the
other
malls,
so
you're
going
to
get
better
because
you
want
to
get
better
because
the
individuals
that
are
there
now
have
taken
steps
forward,
not
backwards,
but
forward
to
make
sure
that
this
process
continues
on
the
right
way
and,
as
you
well
know,
I
don't
have
to
tell
you
most
of
the
people
that
move
in
from
here
drive
through
75
coming
this
way.
F
Yes,
you
have
a
catalyst
there
called
busch
gardens
and
that
attracts
a
lot
of
people
and
also
that
house
would
be
like
what
you
fellows
are
doing
improving,
because
that
that
is
the
first
contact
that
they
have
with
the
city
of
tampa
and
the
first
taste
of
the
food
when
you
go
out
to
eat
is
not
the
food
that
you
taste,
it's
the
food
that
you
look
at,
that
looks
good
or
doesn't
look
too
good,
then
that
taste
comes
next.
It's
the
same
thing.
F
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
had
to
step
out
of
the
room
for
a
minute
if
I
missed
this,
I
apologize,
but
I
saw
in
the
original
part
of
the
powerpoint
was
a
discussion
about
finance
financing.
All
of
this
and
the
financial
structure
of
all
this,
and
I
know
you're
fairly,
it's
fairly
early
in
the
process,
but
I'm
just
curious
of
what
what
we
might
be
anticipating
it
would
seem
to
me.
B
You
know
that
a
cra
for
this,
for
this
area
would
be
a
logical
approach.
Maybe
it
would
be
a
joint
cra
between
the
city
and
the
county,
something
like
that.
But
how
far
are
those
discussions
gotten
and
do
we
do?
We
have
any
projections
on
where
they're
headed.
J
As
you
mentioned,
we're
still
a
little
bit
early
in
that
process.
We
are
we're
awaiting
infrastructure
assessments
and
things
of
that
nature.
To
figure
out.
You
know
what
is
what
are
the
things
that
we
need
to
invest
money
in,
and
then
you
know
strategize
about
how
to
raise
that
revenue,
but
right
now
that
hasn't
been
done
determined
yet,
but
we're
looking
at
a
number
of
options.
J
As
you
mentioned,
we've
got
some
very
creative
people
on
the
working
group
and
we're
looking
at
a
number
of
models
from
around
the
nation
and
things
that
we
can
do
to
generate
that
revenue.
But
right
now
we're
still
doing
those
assessments
right
now.
B
I
guess
I
guess
from
our
experience
running
how
many
series
seven
eight
districts,
you
know
I
would
just
say
the
sooner
the
better,
because
you
know
if
you
can
catch
that
tif
revenue
early.
B
You
know
as
as
as
these
new
projects
are
being
built,
and
you
know
the
malls
being
rebuilt
and
and
all
those
things
you
know,
each
project
that
gets
done
is
another
another
source
of
revenue
that's
missed
out
on,
but
but
anyway,
I
don't
need
to
tell
you
how
to
do
your
job
and
I'm
sure
you've
got
good
people
who
are
very
familiar.
B
You
know
with
the
cra
process.
I
I
for
one
would
love
to
see
that
and
I
think
it
if
we
did
it,
you
know
it
would
not
only
be
a
help
to
quote
suitcase
city
on
in
the
count
on
the
county
side,
but
also
you
know
to
the
to
the
sulphur
springs
area
where
the
where
the
the
community
needs
are
so
great
and
that's
that
doesn't
even
include
the
business
the
business
needs
and
that
sort
of
thing.
But
you
know
the
infrastructure
needs
up.
B
H
If
I
could
just
add
in,
if
you
all
know,
I
have
concerns
other
than
east
tampa
and
west
tampa
with
the
way
cras
have
been
set
up
in
the
past
and
if
we're
trying
to
release
slum
and
blight
and
poverty
they're
great,
but
what
they,
what
they
really
outside
of
those
areas.
What
happens
is
the
rest
of
the
city,
subsidize
them
and
then
they're
set
up
for
long
periods
of
time
and
the
way
us,
if
you
think
about
the
way
a
cra
makes
money.
H
It's
through
real
estate
development,
which
really
encourages
gentrification,
and
so
we
don't
have
time
for
the
long
discussion
now.
But
I
encourage
all
of
you
to
talk
to
rob
rosner
they're,
very
targeted
time,
limited
solutions
that
don't
require
cra
where
we
can
solve
the
other
things.
You
know.
H
Part
of
the
problem
we
have
with
downtown
and
channel
district
is
that
the
timeline
was
so
long
that
it
exceeded
the
it's
exceeded,
the
the
the
slum
and
blight
or
maybe
the
development
worked
faster
than
anybody
expected,
but
we
have
very
limited
dollars
throughout
the
city
and
if
we
need
something
besides
the
very
targeted
incentives
that
they
can
set
up,
then
what
we
need
to
do
is
have
the
discipline
to
direct
money
into
the
areas
that
need
it.
H
It's
going
to
be
the
same
money
if
it's
not
in
a
cra,
it's
going
to
be
in
the
general
fund,
and
so
then
we
just
need
to
talk
to
the
mayor's
office
about
directing
it
I'm
fully
in
favor
of
investing
in
infrastructure.
I
just
think
that
cr,
a
cra
is
big.
The
time
is
long
and
it's
it's
all
about
real
estate
development.
When
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
quality
of
life
and
lifting
everybody
up,
we
can't
spend
cra
money
on
helping
small
businesses,
for
example.
H
So
there
are
other
kinds
of
innovative,
newer
and
innovative
tools
that
we
can
look
at.
Thank
you.
B
And
bill,
if
I
can
clarify
the
cra,
is
a
mechanism
that
we're
very
familiar
with,
but
if
there's
others
I'm
totally
open-minded.
Thank
you.
G
Seconds
count
it
down.
No,
I
I
talked
about
that
before
I
mean
I
think
cras
are
wonderful,
but
what
I
was
saying
is
is
that
at
this
point
we're
on
to
something
good
and
we
are
focused
on
the
85
percent
of
things
that
we
agree
with,
as
it
relates
to
that
usf
area
for
the
time
being,
that's
all
that
I'm
saying
but
less
than
30
seconds.
Thank
you.
A
A
A
A
I
approach
a
total
cra,
or
maybe
mr
cross
has
some
other
mechanism
ideals
that
can
help
those
other
blighted
communities
that
are
in
that
area,
but
I
used
to
live
up
there,
so
I
I
know
the
area
very,
very
well
and
what
I'm
going
to
be
seeing
and
what
I'm
looking
at
right
now
we're
kind
of
concentrating.
I
remember
anything
talking
about
the
lower
half
of
fowler
avenue
up
between
109th
bougainvillea
line
ball,
I'm
not
hearing
any
of
that.
A
I'm
hearing
nothing
but
fowler
avenue.
So
I'm
hoping
that
in
the
future
we
can
address
some
of
those
things
when
you
come
back.
We
don't
have
time
today,
but
I'm
just
I'm
just
saying
the
people
in
that
lower
half
of
busch
boulevard
are
going
to
hold,
raise
holy
heck.
They
get
nothing
mr
rand
I'll
give
you
thank.
F
You
chairman,
and
just
for
clarity
when
I
spoke,
I
mentioned
the
three
exits
in
bush
boulevard,
one
of
the
exits
I'm
not
going
any
further,
but
I
said
that
with
the
intention
that
you
got
to
look
just
a
little
bit
broader
than
what
you're
looking
at.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman,.
J
A
E
Long
is
the
the
citizens
budget
advisory
going
to
be
giving
this.
This
presentation.
E
A
E
F
A
What
their
job
is,
so
if
we
say
it's
still
too
long,
we
think
it's
just
a
lot
of
fluff,
then
we'll
we'll
cut
off
we'll
move
on,
but
I
don't
want
to
you
know
I
mean
we.
We
did
a
whole
workshop
on
the
budget
on
a
special
call
meeting.
So
let's
be
fair
to
those
folks
that
didn't.
E
A
L
Thank
you,
chairman
goods,
city
council,
I'll,
try
to
keep
it
brief
as
possible,
but
you
know
what
we're
gonna
do
is
again
I'll
start
with
the
opening
and
we're
going
to
start
we're
going
to
look
at
fy21
work
our
way
into
fy22
and
then
we're
going
to
go
right
into
our
recommendations.
L
Again.
You
know
I'll
start
out
as
I
do
every
year
and
recognize
my
committee
members.
Excuse
me,
I
think
I'm
a
little
too
tall
for
the
camera
here,
but
I
want
to
recognize
vice
chair
craig
newman,
who
was
appointed
by
mr
carlson
councilman
carlson,
one
of
recognized
mr
scaglioni,
who
was
appointed
by
councilman
miranda,
want
to
recognize
joe
farrell,
who
was
appointed
by
councilman
vieira
stephanie
porter,
who
was
appointed
by
councilman
dean,
felder
and
recognized
mr
michael
florino,
who
was
appointed
by
councilman
maniscalco.
L
So
with
that,
if
excuse
me,
excuse
me,
mr
chair,
I
apologize
and
nicholas
glover
appointed
by
yourself,
mr
citro.
L
I
do
apologize
about
that
so
with
that
we'll
go
ahead
and
let's
take
a
brief
look
at
fy
2021
budget
last
year
during
our
august
20th
presentation,
councilman
carlson,
he
had
a
question
and
his
question
was:
are
there
roo?
Are
there
areas
of
opportunity
to
save
in
the
budget?
Well,
with
that,
you
know
we
went
back
and
we
took
a
look
at
the
budgets
from
fy18,
fy19
and
fy20,
and
in
doing
so
we
found
17
million
dollars
that
could
have
been
saved
and
placed
into
the
reserves.
L
Well,
that
didn't
happen
because
it
was
we
presented
at
the
last
minute
right.
So
with
that
we
we
looked
at
contractual
services.
We
looked
at
other
services
and
charges
this
year
with
the
budget
going
from
1.2
billion
to
1.8
billion.
We
went
back
and
looked
at
the
numbers
and
identified
areas
of
savings,
so
real
quick.
I
just
want
to
kind
of
point
out
when
we
look
at
fy21
spreadsheets,
not
sure
if
it's
up
there-
okay,
it's
down
here
for
me.
So
if
we
can
go
to
the
total
department,
which
is
page
number
four.
L
L
Let's
go
to
the
police
department,
page
five
and
I'll
tell
you
where
I'm
going
with
this,
because
it's
going
to
lead
up
into
fy21,
so
just
kind
of
give
you
a
quick
synopsis
of
where
we're
headed.
So
if
we
look
at
the
police
department,
not
looking
at
contractual
services,
let's
look
at
other
services
and
charges,
8.3
million
7.1
million
8.1
million
9.6.
L
This
has
been
a
rolling
theme
with
all
the
departments,
not
just
pd,
not
just
fire.
So
there
is
really
no
explanation
as
to
what
this
money
is.
When
I
look
at
this
money,
I
say:
okay,
it's
unaccounted
for,
it's
not
really
allocated
line
item
to
any
any
any
specific
area.
So
it's
what
I
call
a
slush
fund.
So
if
we
can
now
go
over
to
fy22
budget.
L
And
I'm
gonna
work
for
my
ipad
here
in
front
of
me,
so
we're
gonna
go
to
page
three:
we're
gonna,
look
at
city
of
tampa
net
budget
and
the
general
fund,
so
fy19
we're
at
a
billion
fy20
we're
at
we
stayed
around
a
billion
fy21.
We
went
up
1.2
billion
fy22
we're
at
1.8
billion.
L
Let's
go
over
to
slide
number
four,
please
it
says
city
of
tampa
and
surrounding
cities.
Okay.
So
when
we
take
a
look
at
mirin
cities,
we
got
tampa
net
budget
1.8.
We
have
orlando,
which
is
at
1.4.
We
have
miami,
which
is
at
1.3.
We
have
fort
lauderdale,
that's
at
787
million.
We
have
st
p,
which
is
at
710
million
the
general
funds,
of
course,
483
million
orlando's
at
545.
L
miami's
at
866.,
fort
lauderdale's
at
398,
st
pete's,
at
303
million.
So
when
we
look
at
that
and
say
tampa
growing
city,
but
a
1.8
billion
dollar
budget,
where
we
have
communities
that
require
affordable
housing,
where
is
the
money
actually
going?
Let's
go
over
to
our
first
presentation
that
we
had
when
we
sat
down
with
the
police
department,
which
I
which
I
will
say
an
fy
20
pd.
Excuse
me.
Let
me
just
get
the
exact
amount,
pd
saved.
L
L
For
fy20,
according
to
my
office
budget,
analyst
pd
police
department
saved
a
total
of
6.3
million
dollars,
fire
rescue
saved
6.6
million,
which
would
have
given
the
city
going
into
fy
21,
a
total
of
13
million
dollars
savings
when
we
met
with
the
police
department,
chief
dugan
and
his
team
well
organized
really
laid
out
how
they
do
things,
and
you
know
we
really
appreciate
that.
No,
the
chief
is
is
outgoing,
but
he
came
very
prepared
and
you
know
we
advise
them
of
the
savings.
L
L
So
when
you
look
at
pd
personnel
they're
at
147
million
they're
operating
costs
for
fy
2019,
12
million,
so
their
total
was
160
million
combined.
When
you
jump
down
to
fy
2020
you'll
see
that
their
personnel
was
projected
and
adopted
at
146
million,
but
it
looks
like
in
fy
22
budget.
When
you
go
into
the
new
breakdown
of
what
the
administration
had
did
has
put
together
their
the
numbers
changed,
they
went
up
to
147
and
their
operating
costs
went
down
to
14
million.
Now,
where
I'm
going
with
this
is
we
did
again?
L
We
did
another
dive
into
the
budget
to
help
us
get
to
where
we
need
to
be
as
pertaining
to
our
recommendations.
So
when
you
look
down
at
fy,
2020
audit
down
there
at
the
bottom,
you'll
see
it
in
green,
where
pd
saved
the
6.4
million
dollars
and
right
now,
with
the
adjusted
numbers
in
black,
you
will
see
that
they
with
the
fy
2021
audit,
you'll,
see
that
they
went
over
by
143
000
and
the
asterisks
in
green.
It
will
actually
show
that
for
the
operating
costs
it
had
them.
L
Saving
that,
like
1
million
there's
a
difference
of
1
million
1.1
million
dollars,
let's
go
to
fire
rescue
and
I
won't
go
through
every.
I
won't
go
through
every
department,
but
I'll
go
through
the
departments
that
you
know
are
necessary
fire
rescue
same
thing.
Congratulations
to
chief
tripp!
She
really!
This
is
her
first
time
coming
to
the
committee,
but
fire
when
we
look
at
when
we
go
to
slide
number
eight.
L
Okay,
so
fy
2019
they
were
at
82
million
for
personnel
operating
costs.
They
were
at
a
11.1
fy20,
84
million
operating
cost
was
9.6,
fy,
2021
they're
at
94,
and
then
11.
L
L
Let's
go
to
page
nine,
so
human
resources
and
talent
development.
This
was
a
real,
interesting
meeting
that
we
had
with
human
resources.
Their
operating
costs,
as
you
can
see,
is
4600.
Their
personnel
is
at
315
000.,
but
when
you
jump
over
to
page
number,
10.
L
The
operating
cost
was
570
000,
but
when
you
look
down
below
that,
3
million
you'll
see
it
jumped
up
to
5.4
million
and
their
operating
costs
jumped
up
to
86
million
and
then
fy20
again
that
3.1,
but
on.
When
you
look
at
fy22
numbers,
if
you
go
back
to
all
of
these
numbers,
you'll
see
that
every
last
one
of
these
numbers
have
changed.
L
Now
when
we
look
at
these
numbers,
I'll
just
tell
you,
it
almost
represents
as
if
the
city
is
going
into
a
deficit,
and
I
don't
want
to
take
up
a
lot
of
time,
because
I
know
that
you
know
you
all
have
precious
pressing
issues,
but
I
I
do
want
to
fast
forward
to
give
me
one
second
here.
L
L
So
you
have
a
lot
in
newly
created
departments
and
you
have
a
lot
a
lot
of
departments
that
have
merged
so
with
all
the
new
mergers
and
consolidations
that
have
taken
place
under
this
administration.
You
now
have
a
pooled
budget
and
operating
costs.
So
when
we
look
at
economic
opportunity
at
the
economic
opportunity
department,
let's
go
over
to
page
50.
L
The
common
theme
here
with
all
these
departments
is
if
they
adopted,
if
they
projected
the
number
and
then
they
adopted
a
budget.
Somehow
they
went
back
and
they
changed.
So
we
really
don't
have
a
real
senses
of
just
how
much
money
the
city
has.
The
department
has
to
justify
the
1.8
billion
dollar
budget,
there's
one
other
department,
development
and
growth
management
department.
L
L
L
So
if
I
seem
a
little
off
a
little
jet
lag,
let's
look
at
fy
2019.
They
had
no.
They
had
no
budget
because
this
department
did
not
exist,
but
somewhere
there
are
6.7
million
6.7
million
dollars
slated
for
fy
2019,
the
operating
cost
487
000..
L
If
you
go
down
to
fy
2020
7
million,
you
look
at
their
operator,
cost
491
000
projected
for
fr21
6.3
million
operating
538..
L
L
L
Page
four
you're
on
page
you're
on
page
five.
L
It
says
four
there,
but
it
should
be.
It
should
be
page
page
three
go
to
page
three,
sorry
there
we
go
all
right,
so
we
met
with
the
following
departments:
we
met
with
police
department,
fire
rescue
human
resource
contract,
administration,
purchasing
department,
neighborhood
and
community
affairs
parks
and
recreation
department,
art
and
cultural
affairs,
marketing
communication
technology,
innovation,
infrastructure,
mobility,
logistics
and
asset
management,
the
city
clerk's
office,
solid
waste
revenue
and
finance
department,
internal
audit
department,
chief
of
staff,
city
attorney,
government
affairs
and
strategic
initiatives.
L
We
recommended
community
development
and
neighborhood
enhancement,
the
grants,
department,
expansion,
parking
rate,
increase,
decreased
spending,
contract
service
and
other
services
and
charges.
Let's
go
over
to
the
next
place
page.
Please
we'll
take
a
look
at
the
successful
committee
recommendations.
L
Now
we
get
to
fy
22
committee
recommendations,
we're
looking
at
an
increase
in
budget
for
affordable
housing,
increase
the
city
council's
budget,
additional
funds
for
fleet
upgrade
review
of
all
city
contracts,
internal
audit
department,
expansion,
housing
department
to
become
a
stand-alone
department,
with
a
three
million
dollar
person
for
personnel
and
one
and
a
half
million
for
operating
budget
and
also
expand
the
cbfc
as
a
complete
finance
oversight.
Committee
next
slide,
please.
L
L
So
what
we
did
was
we
looked
at
each
department
and
we
looked
at
what
their
rolling
average
was
over
a
three
year
span
from
2019
to
2021..
We
even
went
as
far
back
as
2018
prior
year,
but
we
looked
at
what
they
were
averaging.
So
in
looking
at
what
they
were
averaging,
we
said
you
know
what
they
can
do
more
with
less,
because
they're
really
not
spending
all
of
this
money,
because
this
money
is
just
constantly
rolling
over.
L
So
in
order
to
give
affordable
housing
four
million
dollars,
we
looked
at
the
departments
that
had
the
highest
number
of
other
services
and
charges.
So
for
pd
we
pulled
three
million
from
tpd's
from
their
other
services
and
charges
fire
rescue.
We
pulled
two
million
for
human
resources.
We
pulled
1.7
million
contract
services
for
contracts,
we
pulled
182
thousand
neighborhoods.
We
took
a
hundred,
I
mean,
excuse
me,
1.6
million
parks
and
rec.
We
took
1.1
marketing,
we
took
51.
L
technology,
we
took
2.5
logistics
and
asset
management.
We
took
3
000
facilities,
one
point:
eight
revenue
and
finance
twenty
six
thousand
chief
of
staff,
three
thousand
the
city
attorney
eleven
thousand
conventions.
We
took
three
point:
five
planning
and
development,
113
development,
economic
opportunity,
15
000,
equal
business
opportunities,
17
000..
L
L
1
million
goes
to
our
city
council.
Now.
Why
are
we
looking
to
increase
city
council's
budget?
The
city
is
expanding,
it's
growing,
which
means
that
there's
greater
responsibility
that
is
on
the
horizon.
You
have
one
legislative
aid.
There
needs
to
be
more
support.
Staff
there
needs
to
be.
You
know
a
a
greater
dedicated
workspace,
that's
a
little
larger
where
everybody
can
move
about.
We
looked
at
4.5
million
for
the
housing
department.
As
I
said,
three
million
for
personnel
one
and
a
half
for
operating
costs.
Why?
L
Because
they're
going
to
be
able
to
manage
all
these
programs
as
pertains
to
affordable
housing,
they
need
to
be
their
own
standalone
department
in
order
for
affordable
housing
to
really
be
instituted
and
properly
managed
it
needs
to
have
it
needs
to
be
its
own
standalone
apartment.
The
city
is
growing,
it's
grown
exponentially
and
rental
rates
are
going
up
and
then
you
have
the
lower
half
who
have
nowhere
to
go.
They
can
go
out
to
the
county,
but
they're
dealing
with
landlords.
That
excuse
me
that,
are
you
know,
they're
substandard.
L
They
they
don't
keep
up
with
the
property.
It's
it's
ran
down.
So
if
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
provide
affordable
housing
for
those
who
are
in
need,
let's
do
it.
We
looked
at
4
million
for
fleet
upgrades.
When
you
look
at
tpd
glad
to
see
some,
some
vehicles
are
being
upgraded.
When
you
look
at
you
know:
code
enforcement
vehicles.
When
we
look
at
you
know
fire
rescue,
you
know
they
need
cars,
they
need
engines.
We
need
to
start
doing
this
and
not
just
wait
on
the
conv,
the
community
investment
tax.
L
But
if
we
have
the
money
here
in
the
budget,
why
not
use
it?
Let's
allocate
it
the
right
way
and
then
we
we
we
gave
2.6
million
for
additional
staff
for
departments
that
are
in
need
that
really
need
it.
Okay,
so
that's
where
the
16
million
dollars
came
from
and
those
are
departments
in
the
areas
that
we're
looking
to
allocate
those
funds
to.
L
Again,
if
you
go
over
to
page
nine,
it
gives
you
a
breakdown
of
why
we
look
to
increase
the
city
council's
budget,
because
people
probably
will
say
why
do
we
need
to
increase
city
council's
budget?
There's
a
lot
of
work
that
needs
to
be
done.
We
need
to
have
a
well-balanced
body
of
government,
not
just
the
administration,
but
also
on
the
council
that
represent
the
districts
that
makes
up
this
city,
one
of
the
other
things
that
we
are
strongly
recommending.
L
The
urgent
that
the
council
really
take
a
look
at
is
hiring
of
a
budget
analyst
to
work
with
the
cbfc,
the
citizen
budget
and
finance
committee,
because
you
all
receive
this
budget
that
comes
from
the
administration
and
because
your
schedule,
you
don't
have
time
to
go
through
it.
So
you
need
someone
dedicated
on
a
daily
basis.
That's
constantly
monitoring
the
the
money,
that's
monitoring
the
dollars
where
they're
going
where
they're
earmarked
for
are
we
really
seeing
these
projects
through?
What
are
the?
What
are
the
starts?
And
what
are
the
finishes
right?
L
It
seems
like
there's
just
a
lot
of
rollover
and
there's
really
not
a
lot
of
accountability.
So
that's
where
that
budget
analyst
comes
into
place
for
city
council,
we've
already
talked
about
the
expansion
of
your
work
space.
Why
why
the
expansion
of
the
workspace?
Well,
if
you
approve,
and
if
the
administration
agrees
to
it,
then
there
will
be
an
assistant
to
the
legislative
aid
and
both
of
them
can
tackle
issues
that
come
about
from
your
constituents.
L
It
that's
that's
where
we're
looking
at
and
then
there's
an
additional
550
000,
that's
going
to
be
slated
for
additional
personnel
if
needed,
doesn't
have
to
be
used
at
the
same
time,
but
the
budget
needs
to
be
expanded.
A
little
more.
Let's
go
to
page
10..
L
Again,
let's
look
there.
We
go
sorry
community
development
and
neighborhood
enhancements.
We
talked
about
this
last
year.
We're
going
to
talk
about
it
again
this
year,
there's
a
lot
of
programs
in
the
city
that
can
help.
You
know
people
in
east
tampa
that
can
help
people
in
in
south
tampa
west
again
that
want
to
become
homeowners.
They
don't
know
how
to
become
homeowners.
L
They
go
out,
they
work,
but
they
just
don't
qualify
because
they
don't
know
how
to
put
their
finances
together
and
we
have
that
dare
to
dream
program
we
need
to
get
back
to.
We
need
to
inform
and
educate
these
individuals
that
are
looking
to
become
homeowners,
so
they're,
not.
I
don't
want
to
call
them
victims,
but
I
want
to
say
they
are
not
a
circumstance
of
the
the
real
estate
boom.
That's
going
up,
that's
pushing
people
out
and
they're
not
able
to
live
in
a
real
inhabitable
living
space.
L
So
it's
something
that
we
really
need
to.
We.
We
really
need
to
look
at
and
make
sure
that
the
housing
department
really
really
takes
a
strong
look
at
this
and
affordable
housing
and
really
start
getting
out
into
the
community
and
educating
and
informing
those
individuals.
That's
looking
for
home
ownership
or
looking
for
you
know,
decent,
affordable
housing.
L
When
I
look
at
all
the
high-rises,
that's
going
up
in
the
city
of
tampa
and
they
say
we're
putting
up
the
rome
project
and
it's
going
to
help
those
of
east
tampa
know
it's
not
it's
going
to
it's
going
to
help
those
of
seminole
height
those
of
tampa
heights.
When
I
look
at
east
tampa,
I
look
at
the
heart
of
east
tampa,
which
is
not
just
you
know,
15th
or
22nd,
but
go
east
of
it
east,
north
and
south.
L
L
Budget
and
finance
should
not
be
doing
external
audits.
They
should
not
have
a
external
company
coming
in
other
than
their
department.
It
should
be
the
internal
audit
department
and
again
that's
where
that
budget
analyst
comes
into
play.
That's
where
internal
audit
needs
to
really
operate
on
its
own
independency
and
go
and
do
schedule
or
unscheduled
audits.
L
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
close
it
out
and
open
the
floor
for
questions
and
comments.
A
Well,
mr
joshua,
thank
you
for
your
report.
I
can
tell
you
the
community
did
some
work
here,
we'll
go
to
council
members
for
comments.
Mr
vera
you're
recognized.
G
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair.
I
appreciate
that
sir.
I
wanted
to
thank
you
for
your
work
that
you
put
in
this
and
and
for
all
your
members.
I
wanted
to
ask
you,
though,
out
of
interest,
because
I
don't
know
how
this
committee
works.
Did
all
members
support
the
recommendations
made?
L
G
Yeah
I
mean
I,
I
have
some
concerns
with
this
just
off
the
top.
I
mean
with
five
million
dollars
out
of
unless,
if
I'm
reading
it
wrong
at
a
police
and
fire,
a
million
dollars
out
of
parks
and
recreation,
I
mean
I
before
we
go
there.
I
would
have
to
ask
the
committee
heads
I'd
have
to
ask-
or
I
guess,
for
for
a
little
bit
chief
dugan
chief
tripp,
miss
hills.
G
Is
this
really
the
a
waste
that
we're
looking
at
et
cetera,
et
cetera?
You
know
before
going
there
110
percent,
I
speak
for
myself
and
again
maybe
I
I
misread
this
but
half
a
million
dollars
more
for
city
council.
Now
let.
G
What
one
million
yeah
I
mean
I
I
just.
I
would
not
support
that
under
any
circumstances.
L
G
I
may,
if
I
may,
if
I
may,
I
I
just
respectfully,
would
not
support
that
under
any
circumstances.
I
I
understand
that
we
have
needs,
etc,
but
I
I
look
at
priority,
etc.
Just
for
for
me
in
my
own
house,
I
wouldn't
support
that,
but
but
there's
a
lot
of
good
things,
you
know
what
we
look
for
you
all
to
do
is
a
lot
of
things
that
we
see
here,
which
is
to
think
outside
of
the
box.
G
L
Mr,
very,
if
I
can
respond
to
your
comments,
sir
we're
not
touching
fire
pd
parks
and
wrecks
operating
budget
or
touching
their
personnel
budget
again,
if
you
go
back
to
the
presentation
last
year
this
year,
we're
looking
at
other
services
and
charges
that
is
unaccounted
for
revenue,
sir,
that
is
not
spoken
for,
and
I
can
tell
you
during
our
committee
meetings,
I've
asked
for
the
breakdowns
of
that
and
we
got
a
vague
response.
L
L
L
A
I
Thank
you
very
much
I'll
keep
it
brief.
You
know
the
one
million
dollar
budget
increase
the
city
council.
I
just
I
wouldn't
support
that.
Perhaps
you
know
the
budget
analyst
that's
one
thing,
but
but
beyond
that
I
wouldn't
add
any
more
money
and
I'll
just
stop
there
I'll
reserve
my
questions
for
the
budget
hearing
and
then,
if
mr
o'hara
gets
on
the
line,
mr
carlson.
H
I
just
want
to
thank
you
and
your
committee
members
for
being
thorough
and
bold,
and
I
apologize
you
and
I
were
trying
to
get
together
in
the
last
few
days
and
I
wasn't
able
to,
but
I
look
forward
to
having
a
more
in-depth
conversation
with
you
in
the
next
week.
Thank
you
so
much.
E
Would
too
like
to
thank
for
the
hard
work
and,
of
course
you
and
your
members
are
also
volunteers,
so
you
put
in
long
hours
at
no
pay,
and
I
thank
you
for
doing
that,
and
and
again
thank
you
for
keeping
it
brief.
I
know
that
fire
department
is
down
27
firefighters
that
have
that
that
takes
out
of
their
pay
with
a
graduating
class
coming
in
so
with
with
a
graduating
class
coming
in,
even
if
they
were
to
make
minimal
of
35
000
a
year.
E
L
That's
a
good
question
and
that's
the
reason
why
I'm
asking
it
it's
it's
a
good
question
and
that's
a
question
that
you're
gonna
have
to
you
know:
ask
the
administration
you
have
to
ask
the
cfo.
I.
E
I
thank
you.
I
thank
you
and
I
don't
know
if
you
heard
when
councilman
dinfelder
asked
for
a
special
call
meeting
to
discuss
the
finances
I
had
asked
for
more
staffing,
and
that
includes
more
police
officers,
more
firefighters,
more
in
in
in
in
construction
services,
more
in
code
enforcement.
So
as
these
new,
if,
if
I'm
granted
those
or
if
the
city's
granted
this
as
these
new
employees,
keep
coming
in,
that's
going
to
backfill
all
this
money
that
you're
talking
about
now
again,
I
thank
you
for
your
hard
work.
A
B
Yes,
sir,
thanks
again
for
for
to
you
and
the
committee
for
all
the
time
you
guys
put
into
this,
I'm
not
going
to
go
line
item.
Might
I'm
gonna,
and
I
am
curious
to
to
hear
what
the
administration's
response
is.
But
I
did
want
to
thank
you
for
mentioning
the
the
five
million
five
and
a
half
million
dollars
of
arpa
money
of
federal
money,
and
it
appears
to
me
that
you
and
your
committee
are
supportive
of
redirecting
that
to
to
the
housing
program.
B
B
So
anyway,
we're
going
to
be
having
a
lot
of
discussions
on
this
issue
and
all
the
all
these
issues
you
guys
have
brought
up
as
the
weeks
progressed.
But
but
I
really
appreciate
you
and
the
committee
supporting
supporting
that.
Thank
you.
J
F
L
L
L
The
shareholder
values
must
be
to
be
good
custodians
and
good
economic
buyers
with
the
people's
money
and,
as
someone
who
you
know,
is
a
taxpayer.
As
someone
who
has
been
appointed
to
this
committee
to
serve
in
that
capacity,
it
is
our
job
as
committee
members
to
try
and
be
good
custodians
as
it
pertains
to
the
people's
money
so
I'll
yield
it
back
to
you,
mr
chairman,
well.
A
Mr
jones,
thank
you
in
the
committee
for
your
hard
work.
You
know
you
know
it
takes
people
who
want
to
do
this
type
of
thing,
especially
dealing
with
finances
everybody's
not
adapt
to
to
to
deal
with
that
portion,
but
people
are
adapted
to
serve
and
we're
glad
for
those
who,
in
that
committee,
who
was
able
to
serve
and
be
able
to
bring
this
forth
to
us.
What
means
there's
a
lot
for
counsel
at
this
time.
A
I
I
wouldn't
support
that
this
time,
but
I,
like
everyone
else
in
the
council,
were
interested
to
know.
Since
the
committee
didn't
know
what
the
other
column
is,
and
I
think
that'd
be
an
interesting
factor
when
I
bring
mr
heroes
to
tell
us
actually
what
other
means-
and
I
guess
the
suggestions
that
you
made
or
you're
committee
made
and
reference
you,
the
others
column
so
I'll
just
yield
back.
Do
we
have,
mr
here
on
the
line.
K
A
I'm
just
waiting,
I
guess
the
question
of
the
day
for
all
the
councilmembers.
I
guess
mr
johnson
talked
about
this
other
column,
and
so
yes,
we
want
to
clear
them
and
see
what
that
is.
How
is
that
operated
and
spent.
K
Well,
certainly,
I
can
I
can
do
both.
First
of
all,
I
echo
the
thanks.
It's
it's
been
a
pleasure
working
with
mr
johnson
and
his
committee
for
the
last
quarter
of
the
year.
We
appreciate
their
efforts
and
the
discussion.
K
Secondly,
of
course,
I'll
simply
echo
housing,
affordable
housing
has
a
very
high
priority
for
the
administration
again
with
over
30
million
dollars
in
fiscal
year,
22
and
vehicles
again
over
30
million
dollars
in
fiscal
year
22.
in
terms
of
the
presentation
and
recommendation.
Of
course,
these
are
very
high
level
summaries,
as
has
always
been
the
case.
K
Detailed
information
exists
for
all
of
the
categories
in
the
budget,
both
online
in
the
budget
document
and,
of
course,
we're
always
available
for
questions
the
particular
subject
in
question:
other
services
and
charges.
K
I
am,
I
am
of
the
understanding,
as
is
my
budget
officer,
and
we've
confirmed
it
verbally
that
every
question
the
committee
has
asked
over
the
last
quarter
of
a
year
has
been
answered
if
we're
mistaken.
In
that,
I
encourage
anybody
to
reach
out
mr
johnson,
his
committee
members
and
reach
me
or
my
budget
officer.
Having
said
that,
other
services
and
charges
include
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
in
insurance
premiums,
electricity
bills,
cost
allocation
plan,
computer
repair
and
maintenance.
I'm
looking
down
the
list
now,
which
I
believe
we've
provided
to
the
committee.
K
So
although
it
is
categorized
from
an
accounting
perspective
under
other
services
and
charges
again,
we
get
into
a
very
great
deal
of
detail.
I
think
there
are
schools
of
thought
out
there
that
would
look
at
utility
bills
as
being
untouchable
electricity
bills
as
being
untouchable
insurance
premiums
as
being
untouchable.
G
K
L
L
One
of
the
recommendations
was
to
have
a
city-wide
review
of
all
contract
services.
We
don't
feel
that
they
are
competitive.
I
I
know
this.
Can
the
the
council,
you
know
is
pressed
for
time,
but
at
some
point
you
know
we.
We
need
to
have
a
realistic
conversation
as
it
pertains
to
how
to
better
spend
the
people's
money
and
make
sure
that
we
are,
you
know
getting
true
competitive
rates
for
services
that
we're
outsourcing.
F
I'm
not
confused,
but
I'm
disturbed
with
myself,
then
in
reviewing
the
process
by
which
we
go
for
an
rfqrb
to
have
the
individuals
that
are
qualified
that
have
had
some
type
of
when
the
city
puts
out
an
advertising
for
those
individuals
that
have
to
qualify
under
certain
areas
of
expertise
to
deal
with
the
city
and
then
after
they
they
feel
that
fulfillment
there's
a
period
where
you
have
to
turn
in
your
performer,
how
much
you're
gonna
your
bid
bid
and
are
we
saying
that
the
beds
are
rigged?
F
Are
we
saying
that
there's
favoritism
within
debate?
I
don't
understand
the
the
philosophy
between
both
what
I'm
hearing
on
one
side
and
the
other
side.
So
I
want
to
clear
it
up
that
we
advertise
there's
nothing
wrong
there,
the
people
who
or
the
corporations
or
the
individuals
that
bid
there's
nothing
wrong
there
that
I
know
of
and
then
there's
a
bid
set
and
you
go
to
the
lowest
bidder.
First,
that
beats
all
the
responsible
avenues
that
the
city
has
put,
and
there
are
many.
Are
we
saying
that
there's
bed
rigging?
What
are
we
saying?
L
So
we
never
know
if
we
can
get
a
competitive,
a
competitive
rate
right,
so
it
just
continues
on
and
on
with
that
same
company.
So
when
we
talk
about
have
a
review,
we
want
to
review
the
current
contracts.
Why?
Because
there
may
be
an
opportunity
for
the
city
to
save
money
on
contract
services
for
fy20.
L
F
I'm
not
disputing
that
at
all,
sir,
I
can
tell
you
just
one
incident
and
there
may
be
more
and
if
I
recall
now
that
I
bring
it
up
to
my
own
mind
in
june
of
14,
there
was
been
brought
in
on
of
all
things:
cutting
the
grass
in
the
city
or
the
most
of
the
highway,
whatever
it
was,
and
the
bids
were,
the
low
bid
was
2
million,
something
it
was
with
a
two.
F
Guess
what
happened
they
found
out
that
the
low
bid
after
collecting
for
june
july
august
and
september
would
then
have
the
proper
equipment
or
the
individuals
to
do
the
service
that
was
needed
because
they
do
a
rotating
four
or
five
areas
where
the
city
are
rotated.
You
have
to
do
them
within
a
number
of
weeks
at
each
in
each
area
and
again,
don't
hold
me
to
the
dates,
because
I'm
going
by
memory-
and
this
is
just
one
so
the
bid
went
out
and
the
low
bidder
got
it.
F
F
They
give
it
back
to
the
high
bidder
and
it
cost
an
additional
hundred
two
hundred
thousand
dollars,
because
the
work
had
been
done
and
I'm
not
saying
you
can't
find
those
that
are
done
that
way,
but
I
can
also
tell
you
you
can
find
those
that
didn't
do
it
that
way,
when
the
city
took
something
that
they
more
likely
knew
or
had
a
suspicion
that
it
could
be
done.
I
trust
everything
that
I
see,
but
I
try
to
verify
everything
that
I
trust.
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
Both
sides
well.
A
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
We
appreciate
both
of
you,
I'm
sure,
sometime
another,
you
two,
gentlemen
and
the
committee
will
meet
to
go
over
mr
johnson's
presentation
with
the
committee,
mr,
I
hope
so
and
that
way
clip
any
other
discrepancies
before
the
budget
hearings
start.
So
people
won't
be
calling
asking
kind
of
questions,
because
people
do
look
at
city
council
and
wonder
so
make
sure
we
kind
of
clear
up
some
of
the
maybe
misunderstandings
that
might
be
there.
So
people
could
have
the
full
facts
and
this
council
can
make
good
informed
decisions.
D
Martin
shelby
city
council
attorney
just
a
reminder
council,
and
certainly
to
the
public
as
they're
hearing
discussions
about
the
budget,
that
there
are
two
public
hearings
scheduled
for
the
budget.
The
first
is
monday
september
13th
at
501
pm,
and
the
second
is
tuesday
september
28th
at
501
pm,
and
just
also
a
reminder
to
city
council
and
to
the
public
that
there
is
no
meeting
on
the
16th
of
september,
which
is
a
thursday
because
of
yom
kippur.
D
A
M
I
am
here
to
make
you
aware:
sometimes
state
state
you
are
under
inquiry
and
questioning
for
global
human
trafficking.
M
The
trafficking
of
your
people
ass,
like
what
I'm
saying
with
the
human
trafficking,
as
your
people
have
not
been
paid
ass
ever
as
you
have
them
operate
under
fraudulent
means,
pretending
to
pay
them
placing
them
in
a
debt
that
should
have
never
been
from
the
beginning
from
the
get-go
that
cannot
pay
off
that
they
cannot
even
buy
off
that
state.
You
are
under
inquiry
and
not
allowed
to
go
anywhere.
M
State
you're
not
allowed
to
operate
or
move
without
permission
state.
You
continue
to
traffic.
Your
people,
you
will
be
penalized
state,
do
not
go
anywhere
state.
We
comprehend
that
you
figure
that
you
can
continue
to
do
this,
because
you
always
have
done
this
and
you
figure
that
the
people
are
still
dumb,
deaf
and
blind
state.
It
is
not
funny
to
give
your
people
iou
notes
and
to
tell
them
that
it's
okay
to
not
really
be
paid
state
is
not
funny
to
human
trafficking.
Your
people,
ashley
mooney.
M
Also
biden
and
harris
you've
been
simon's
to
appear
here
in
the
headquarters,
for
it
is
you
two
that
are
also
continuing
to
human
traffic
americans
so
get
here
to
tampa,
and
that
is
not
a
request.
That
is
a
demand.
Non-Negotiable.
M
N
N
And
tez
not
want
to
say
who
means
freedom
in
swahili.
We
say
we
as
african
people
should
always
be
thinking
about
our
freedom
and
that's
why
I'm
here,
thursday,
after
thursday,
decade
after
decade,
to
put
forth
what
I
think,
our
expression
of
freedom
and
what
it
means
to
be
free
and
also
put
forth
the
fact
that
to
say,
like
I've,
always
said,
we
need
26
of
the
good
things
that
happen
in
this
city.
Our
business
people
need
26
percent
of
this
city
budget,
we're
26
percent
of
this
population,
and
the
irony
is
anytime.
N
Then
there's
no
problem
with
that,
but
when
it's
money
for
the
advancement
of
african
people,
it's
never
any
money
for
that.
They
always
tell
us
it's
money
for
parks,
it's
money
for
roundabouts,
it's
money
that
doesn't
do
anything
to
uplift.
The
african
people
or
the
african
community
and
what
we're
saying
is
we
need
representatives
to
uplift,
our
community
and
sometimes
that's
being
put
as
if
it's
being
put
on
district
five.
No,
it's
not
district
five.
It's
each
and
every
person.
That's
in
there
on
city
council.
N
That's
exactly
how
racism
works,
you
bounce
it
back
another
person
and
you're
like!
Oh,
that's,
not
me!
I
have
any
time
you
come
to
city
council
and
you
bring
forth
the
issue
of
situation.
They
tell
you.
Oh
that's
not
my
area.
The
bicycle
stops.
Oh,
we
talked
to
the
state
attorney
about
that
other
other
issues.
N
Oh
no,
that's
not
our
area,
the
stimulus
checks,
it's
people
living
inside
the
city
of
tampa
child
support
and
other
individuals
running
the
holy
legal
game
on
mostly
african
men,
and
you
talk
to
your
city
council
representatives
about
it
and
they
like.
Oh
there's,
nothing.
We
can
do
about
it.
That's
outside
our
jurisdiction.
Well,
the
people
living
within
the
city
of
tampa
just
say:
hey
that
can't
happen
in
the
city
of
tampa
plain
and
simple.
N
N
We
need
26
percent
of
the
good
things
that
happen
in
this
city.
We
african
people
need
26
percent.
We
need
reparations
for
since
the
city
that's
been
formed
since
1859
and
we've
been
received,
no
justification
in
even
being
here
all
that
have
to
change
it's.
It's
so
imperative
that
we
see
changes
within
this
city
that
we
can
see
growth
and
harmony
and
some
happiness
amongst
african
people
that
it's
just
you
know
it's
time
for
it
to
happen.
It's
time
for
a
change,
it's
time
for
some
development,
so
african
people
can
see
the
light.
N
A
A
Sir,
no
more
that's
it.
Okay,
thank
you
registered
speakers.
C
C
A
D
And
I
believe
we
have
two
attorneys
who
are
related
to
this,
ms
hadley
and
ms
eiserman:
are
they
both
registered
and
available
to
be
put
online?
Madam.
D
Okay,
mr
chairman
and
members
of
council,
this
has
been
a
scheduling
issue
and
I
believe,
working
with
both
attorneys
who
are
involved
in
this
who
are
both
present.
D
The
agreement
is
to
continue
this
to
october
21st
of
2021
at
1
30
in
the
afternoon
after
the
council's
lunch
break,
and
hopefully
we
would
be
able
to
get
through
the
staff
reports
which
are
short
by
at
this
point,
to
be
able
to
get
to
this
hearing
as
quickly
as
possible
after
1
30..
D
So
if
that's
council's
pleasure,
I
would
ask
before
a
motion
is
made
just
that
we'd
have
the
attorneys
affirm
that
they
would
be
able
to
and
their
clients
or
whoever
is
necessary,
to
participate
in
that
review
hearing
to
be
present
on
october
21st
after
1
30
pm
counselors.
M
B
D
Mr
chair
and
one
last
point,
mr
chairman,
just
to
confirm
that
this
continuance
is
the
only
notice
that
will
be
received
regarding
this
matter.
So
people
who
are
interested
in
this
matter
should
make
note
of
that
date
of
continuous
october
21st
at
1
30
in
the
afternoon.
No
additional
notice
will
be
sent,
and
that
makes
it
compliant
with
the
law
requiring
notice.
Thank
you
is
there
anything
for
other
counselors.
M
C
A
Yeah,
all
right,
no
more
speaking,
oh
good,
great!
All
right!
Let
me
go
to
the
consent
agenda.
Mr
citro,
will
you
move
items
number
five
to
her.
H
H
A
Mr
man,
if
you
move
item
number
17,
excluding
18,
19.,.
A
A
All
right
now
to
mr
miranda
finance
committee
item
17
19,
excluding
18
for.
F
17
and
19
holding
18
for
discussion.
C
H
Yes,
sir,
I
I
need
to
recuse
myself
of
number
20.
so
I'll
make
the
motion
a
second
for
the
rest
of
them.
Okay,
but
could
I
please
make
a
motion
to
file
the
the
proper
paperwork
with
the
clerk,
the
company
that
my
company
does
business
with
a
company
that
is
related
to
this
item?
What's
your
75.
M
B
All
right
so,
mr
chairman,
just
to
keep
things
flowing
in
order.
One
of
my
move
item
20
by
itself,
since
mr
carlson
has
to
repeat
second.
A
All
right
miss
dinfer,
let's
move,
mr!
We
are
a
second
roll
call.
C
Goods,
yes,
motion,
carry
with
carlson
upstairs.
Excuse
me
upstairs
from
vote.
D
A
All
right,
mr
mr
carlson,
was
receiving
file
mrs
dean
for
the
second,
all
in
favor.
All
right,
any
opposed
must
be
carried.
This
card
is
21
through
27,
but
27
needs
to
be
read.
C
F
D
H
Right
all
right,
I'd
like
to
move
number
27
file,
number
bf21-70115.
H
H
This
public
hearing
will
be
held
in
the
lobby
of
the
independence
park
office
complex
located
at
4110
george
road
tampa
florida
33634
on
september
13
2021
at
5
30
pm
until
not
later
than
6
30
p.m.
As
a
precaution
during
the
covet,
19
pandemic,
masks
will
be
required
for
entry
to
the
hearing,
and
the
seating
will
be
set
up
in
a
manner
to
ensure
that
social
distancing
is
maintained.
Hand.
Sanitizer
will
also
be
available
for
all
participants.
H
C
H
H
A
H
M
B
Morning,
council,
john
bennett,
chief
of
staff,
we
have
two
reports
for
you.
B
C
Good
morning,
council
chief
tripp
temple
fire
rescue
just
want
to
give
you
a
little
update
on
the
covet
stream.
Currently,
the
city
of
tampa
is
still
doing
testing
at
l
barnes,
as
well
as
el
lopez.
Between
the
two
sites.
We
are
testing
a
little
less
than
2000,
with
an
average
of
18.6
to
20
positivity
rate.
Currently,
the
state
is
all
testing
throughout
a
slight
average
there
getting
about
1600
new
cases
per
day.
The
hospital
has
continued
to
show
a
slight
decrease.
C
A
B
A
chief
during
the
first
go-round
we
received
you
know
daily
daily,
written
updates
from
from
your
staff.
B
You
know
last
year
and
and
then
I
know
the
state
modified
their
reporting,
and
I
have
a
feeling
that
trickled
down
to
to
our
information,
but
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
counsel
into
the
community
if
we
could
get.
You
know
start
getting
some
written
reports
about
whatever
number
I'm
not
asking
you
to
come
up
with
numbers
that
you're
not
don't
already
have,
but
whatever
numbers
you
have,
if
you
could,
you
know
pass
those
on
every
couple
of
days.
That'd
be
helpful.
B
D
Just
just
as
a
council
recalls,
there
was
a
time
that
you
were
getting
daily
situation,
reports
provided
by
emergency
operations,
and
then
I
don't
know
whether
they
still
generate
those
on
a
weekly
basis,
but
the
that
that's
the
kind
of
information
that
council
had
previously
gotten.
Is
that
similar
to
what
you
want.
D
C
B
Yeah
that'd
be
great
to
get
it
in
writing
and
then
and
then
clearly
it's
up
to
mr
chairman,
but
clearly
during
our
regular
meetings
as
the
emergency
progresses.
I
think
it'd
be
great
if
you
could
come
on
and
and
and
report
not
only
to
us
but
of
course
to
the
community
in
this
format.
Thank
you.
Yes,
sir.
Hey.
What
else.
C
Our
chairman
council
next
should
be
our
cfo
dennis
rogero
talking
about
the
conduit
bond
and
that'll,
be
the
last
part
of
the
administrative
update.
Thank
you.
K
K
If
you
haven't
read
it,
make
a
long
story,
short
celadon
development
corporation.
They
are
the
corporation
that
intends
to
construct
and
install
a
paper
fiber
manufacturing
plant
near
the
port.
They
would
like
to
do
a
conduit
dead
issuance
not
to
exceed
280
million.
You
may
recall
we've
done
these
before,
for,
for
example,
for
the
university
of
tampa
and
the
moffett
cancer
center.
I
reiterate
that
there
are
no
legal
nor
financial
liabilities
associated
with
a
conduit
debt
issuance
for
the
city
of
tampa.
K
B
B
I
think
something
like
that.
I
don't
know.
If
I
asked
the
question,
then
I
did
a
little
bit
of
research
on
their
product
and
their
their
manufacturing.
They
claim
that
this
is
a
very
green.
K
D
I
I
was
a
yeah.
I
was
about
to
inquire
of
mr
o'hara
for
that,
because
mr
o'hara
just
a
reminder,
council
has
a
morning
session
at
a
workshop
at
9
00
a.m.
An
evening
session
at
501.
If
you
wish
to
schedule
a
a
special
call
meeting,
you
don't
anticipate
or
do
you
anticipate
this
going
very
long.
K
I
don't
anticipate
it
going
very
long,
but
of
course
I
defer
to
council
and
how
much
information
they'd
like
we'll,
of
course,
provide
you
a
complete
package
and
briefings
prior
to
and-
and
I
I
imagine
that
the
the
organization
would
be
very
flexible
in
terms
of
when
you
all
will
have
that
special
call.
Meeting.
D
If,
if
I
may
recommend
council
taking
a
look
at
your
workshop
session,
you
do
have
commendations
of
police
officers
of
the
month
and
two
individuals,
but
if
you
wish
to
take
this
special
call
meeting
first
and
get
it
out
of
the
way
before
you
begin
your
workshop,
then
you
can
schedule
at
9
00
a.m
to
precede
the
workshop
session.
If
that's
council's
pleasure,
would
that
be
acceptable
to
the
administration?
Mr
o'hara.
A
A
Resolution,
mr
mr
beer,.
D
G
So
move
the
resolution.
Second.
A
Mr
smoothie,
mr
man,
a
second
I'm
going
to
roll
call
that
right.
Mr
president,
yes
please.
A
Okay,
38
was
cleared
up
with
memo
39,
yes
about
the
part
39,
mr
dean,
for
you
hear
about
the
quality
report.
Correct,
oh.
B
I'm
I'm
good
and
I
think
I
don't
think
we
need
to
do
anything
on
that.
One.
A
H
Could
I
you
all
probably
read
the
memo?
Remember
the
genesis
of
this
was
that
a
a
year
or
so
ago
the
city
created
a
program
called
one
tampa.
That
was
a
city
program
and
then,
in
the
last
I
don't
remember
two
or
three
months
and
a
non-profit
was
registered
called
one
tampa,
and
so
the
question
that
we
asked
was
what
other
non-profits
does
the
city
have
that
are
like
that?
H
That
are
quote
unquote
and
control
the
city,
and
I
I
should
have
rephrased
phrase
the
question
differently,
because
if
you
say
control
that
hits
all
kinds
of
irs
issues
about
about
tax
tax
deductions
and
I
think
the
reason
they
did
this
was
to
so
that
they
could
take
private
sector
donations
and
allow
them
to
have
a
tax
deduction.
H
But
the
question
was
what
other
nonprofits
does
the
city
quote
unquote
have
control
over?
I
pulled
up
sun
biz
this
morning
for
well
so
the
question
the
question
back
from
mr
o'hara
and
mr
massey
was:
can
we
narrow
the
scope
a
little
bit
because
the
city
has
people
sitting
on
lots
of
boards?
We
all
sit
on
boards.
The
city
donates
money
to
lots
of
boards,
and
so
what's
the
what's
the
narrow
definition.
So
I
looked
up
one
tampa
in
sun
biz
this
morning
and
if
I
remember
correctly
here,
I
have
in
front
of
me.
H
The
address
for
one
tampa
is
306:
east
jackson,
street
eighth
floor
attention,
marley
wilks
and
then
the
registered
agent
is
morris
massey
and
then
there
are
other
folks
on
here
as
well.
One
of
them
is
dennis
rogero,
so
I
think
that
to
narrow
the
scope,
although
we
can't
say
which
non-profits
the
city
quote
unquote
controls
the
question
is:
is
which
here's?
H
How
I
would
suggest
narrowing
it
that
the
address
would
be
so
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
to
narrow
the
scope
of
this
request
to
be
limited
to
that
have
an
address
that
is
a
city
property
and
that
the
registered
agent
is
a
city
employee.
B
H
And
I
forgot
to
ask
mr
o'hara:
do
you
think
that's
fair,
a
fair
reduction
of
it
yeah.
K
Yes,
I
do
thank
you,
but
I
would
I
would
defer
to
legal
to
you
know
to
make
sure
it's
within
their
bumper
rails.
But
yes
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that.
Mr
massey.
I
appreciate
that
as
well.
Councilman
carlson.
I
think
that
that
provides
enough
direction.
It
limits.
H
B
I
Sure
so
before
we
get
mr
b
day
on
the
line,
I
know
we
get
a
lot
of
complaints
about
the
quality
of
our
roads.
I
get
them
daily.
If
it's
not
someone
posting
on
social
media,
it's
an
email
or
a
phone
call
and
whatnot.
I
I
But
not
everybody
knows
that
they
think
that
the
city
of
tampa
controls
everything
and
page
all
the
roads.
So
the
complaints
that
I
get
are
columbus
drive
armenia,
howard
and
whatnot.
So
just
this
is
this
is
on
the
topic,
but
has
it's
not
part
of
this
memo?
I've
reached
out
to
our
county
commissioners
individually?
In
the
past
few
weeks,
I've
told
them
our
concerns.
I
The
roads
that
are
within
the
city
of
city
of
tampa
limits,
but
that
are
county,
controlled
and
the
response
was
projects
have
been
delayed
for
lack
of
funding.
However,
they
were
going
to
reach
out
to
the
county
administrator,
which
I
believe
they
did
because
the
other
day
it
was
then
recommended
from
the
american
recovery
funds.
I
think
that's
the
part
of
the
official
title
that
they're
going
to
earmark
35
million
dollars
for
road
resurfacing
resurfacing
and
repaving.
I
Councilman
miranda
was
on
the
council
with
me
so
with
councilman
vieira
when
the
city
of
tampa
during
a
city
council
meeting,
and
I
think
we
do
it
as
a
formality
or
as
a
pass-through.
We
voted
to
pave
parts
of
armenia
and
whatnot,
even
though
again
they
are
counting.
So
those
projects
were
delayed.
I'm
glad
to
see
that
35
million
dollars
is
going
to
be
allocated
for
this.
I'm
sorry
that
all
for
transportation
was
overturned
by
a
court,
because
that
would
have
put
all
of
us
in
a
better
position.
I
We
would
have
been
able
to
catch
up
on
sidewalk
construction
on
road
resurfacing
and
repaving
that
was
delayed
for
so
long.
So
this
is
a
start.
I
know
the
city
of
tampa's
paving
budget
is
between
four
and
five
million
dollars,
or
so
again
we
did
rely
on
that
offer
transportation
money
because
it
was
a
30-year
dedicated
fund.
I
If
you,
if
you
get
down
to
the
nitty-gritty
and
you
go
on
in
the
community,
I
know
we
get
complaints
about
overbuilding
in
apartments.
We
get
complaints
about
lot
splitting
we
get
complaints
about
underfunded,
parks
and
parks
that
are
not
invested
in
enough.
I
But
if
we
invest
in
the
infrastructure,
beyond
pies
beyond
our
stormwater
system,
which
we
have
already,
which
is
very,
very
helpful
if
we
pave
the
roads,
I
think
a
lot
of
our
constituents
will
be
happy
because,
when
folks
pay
taxes
as
we
all
do,
they
want
to
see
a
return
on
their
investment.
And
if
it's
something
as
simple
as
paving
a
road
people
will
say
I'm
paying
my
taxes,
but
I'm
seeing
results
and
it's
something
that
affects
each
and
every
one
of
us
so
I'll
stop
there.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
All
right,
you
don't
have
anybody
miss
cops.
Mr,
I
think
what
I'm
sorry.
B
I'm
not
that
good.
Looking
thanks,
mr
manscalco
hit
a
lot
of
the
points
I
was
gonna
make
the
I
talked
to
gene
duncan
and
and
vic
about
this.
The
other
day,
if
you
read
the
report
it
basically,
you
know
said
that
for
a
while
we
were
doing
better
a
couple
years
ago
we
were
doing,
we
were
doing
a
little
bit
better.
B
E
B
B
B
Finally,
when
the
voters
passed
it
then
then
you
know
a
court
strikes
it
down.
So
I
think
we
have
to
have
a
contingency
plan
and
and
vic.
I
I
see
you
come
on
board
and
we
discussed
this
the
other
day,
but
I
think
that
if
we're
gonna
go
for
another
referendum,
that's
great
okay
and
we
cross
that
bridge.
B
When
we
get
to
it,
but
I
think
we
have
to
have
a
contingency
plan
that
says:
okay,
what
if
the
referendum
doesn't
fail,
we
can't
start
all
over
again
three
years
from
now
and
say
well
that
failed.
What
do
we
do
now
and
scratch
our
head,
because
that
we've
been
scratching
our
head
for
20
something
years
and
and,
as
guido
said,
the
calls
we
get
pe,
we
don't
get
phone
calls
demanding.
B
You
know
high-speed,
rail
and
demanding
you
know,
you
know
all
other
types
of
mobility
stuff,
even
though
we
might
know
those
are
the
right
things
to
do.
The
phone
calls
we
get
are
about
the
potholes
and
the
paving
that
basically
is
not
great
in
this
community
and
anyway
long-winded.
B
I
apologize,
but
bottom
line
is
vic
and
gene
and
dennis
you
know,
we
need
to
come
up
with
a
financial
plan
to
address
this
and
whether
or
not
I
even
suggested
god
forbid-
a
possible
property
tax
increase
a
little
bitty
one
that
could
raise
five
or
ten
million
dollars
that
we
we
would
earmark
year
after
year,
just
for
road
paving
because
we
don't
have
any
other.
It
appears.
We
don't
have
any
other
way
of
getting
that
money.
B
So
if
the
referendum
fails
again,
that's
what
I'm
going
to
circle
back
and
suggest
a
year
or
two
from
now.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
there's
vic.
O
Thank
you
chair
and
I'm
available
for
any
questions
that
may
arise,
but
I'm
glad
we're
having
this
conversation.
This
is
a
challenge.
Unfortunately,
this
isn't
just
a
challenge
within
the
city
of
tampa.
This
is
a
challenge
within
the
region,
the
state
and
the
and
nationwide
in
general,
and
I'd
just
like
to
highlight
that
it's
not
just
a
challenge
with
the
road
surface
in
potholes
alone
and
the
wrist
that
poses.
O
O
I'd
just
like
to
highlight
just
from
an
urgency
standpoint
that
when
a
road
goes
from
good
to
fair
condition,
for
example,
it
takes
a
certain
amount
of
time,
but
for
it
to
go
from
fair
to
poor,
it
takes
lesser
time
primarily
because
the
biggest
enemy
for
roadways
is
water
and
we're
seeing
more
and
more
implement
weather
events
and
more
intense
weather
events.
I.
J
O
O
In
fact,
we're
going
to
get
a
head
start
on
our
fy
23
budget
planning
starting
october
internally
to
see
what
is
it
that
we
can
do?
Are
there
trade-offs
that
we
can
make
with
our
limited
budget,
do
to
extend
this
service
and
make
sure
we're
doing
as
much
paving
as
we
can?
But
having
said
that,
our
problems
really
require
another
zero
to
our
budget,
and
so
there's
only
so
much
we
can
do
through
optimization.
O
We
really
need
to
look
at
how
we
fund
transportation
all
together.
H
Yes,
thank
you
and
for
some
reason
I
can't
pull
up
the
document,
but
I
remember
the
conversation
a
few
days
ago.
Vic
tell
me
if
I'm
in
the
ballpark,
I
think
what
gene
said
is
that
we
have
about
five
and
a
half
million
a
year
for
road
resurfacing,
and
we
need
about
20.
22.
is
am
I
in
the
ballpark
of
the
okay?
That's.
O
H
Yes,
so
that's
right
and
that's
just
to
keep
up
with
the
basic
road
repair,
not
not
really
remaking
roads
like
some
people
would
like
or
re-breaking
or
anything
like
that.
But
exactly.
O
That
is
to
keep
things
at
fair
condition
and
not
anything
about
that.
H
And
it's
the
I
you
know
I
thought
before
I
ran
for
office.
I
thought
potholes
were
something
that
people
joked
about
in
politics,
but
it's
the
it's
it's
the
number
one
or
two
thing
that
I
get.
Complaints
about
and
people
are
really
angry.
They
they
say
we
pay
taxes
and
our
roads
are
falling
apart.
But
you
all
are
tired
of
me
hitting
this
drum,
but
that's
why
I
think
we
have
to
look
carefully
about
the
existing
cras
and
the
any
potential
cras
in
the
new
tampa
area.
H
H
I
brought
up
the
channel
district
and
downtown
cras
a
year
or
so
ago,
if,
in
the
next
couple
months,
we're
going
to
get
the
strategic
plan
that
the
channel
district
cra
requested,
and
I
think
staff
thinks
that
we
can
do
most
of
what
the
committee
has
been
able
to
put
anything
they
want
on
the
list,
and
I
think
the
staff
thinks
we
can
implement
most
or
all
of
it
within
the
next
three
to
five
years
and
and
so
the
question
is,
what
are
we
going
to
do
with
the
rest
of
it?
H
The
rest
of
the
city
looks
at
areas
like
that
and
says
how
come
I've
got
torn
apart
roads
when
all
these
great
amenities
are
going
into
another
area
and
as
we've
talked
about
the
other
parts
of
the
city
subsidize
it
in
areas
like
east
tampa,
west
tampa
places
where
there's
slum
and
blight.
It's
obvious
that
we
need
to
do
it,
but
think
about
this.
If
we
just
if
we
didn't
shut
down
the
channel
district
cra.
H
If
we
just
said
over
the
next
few
years,
we're
going
to
pull
out
a
million
dollars
a
year
that
would
be
a
20
increase
in
the
budget
to
repave
roads.
If
we
were
able
to
pull
two
two
and
a
half
million
out,
that
would
be
a
50
increase
and
so
small
amounts
of
money
could
make
a
and
it
doesn't
have
to
hurt
channel
district.
We
can
still
do
everything
that
channel
district
has
asked
for,
but
we
can.
H
We
can
maybe
negotiate
to
try
to
figure
out
if
there's
money
that
we
can
put
back
in
the
rest
of
the
city
so
that
we
can
hit
the
basic
needs,
because
the
rest
of
the
city
feels
like
they're
already
being
taxed
for
it
and
they
don't
want
necessarily
their
taxes
to
increase
for
something
they're
already
paying
for.
Thank
you.
O
Chair,
if
I
may,
you
recognize
so
through
the
councilman's
comment.
I
think
it's
somewhat
important
to
understand,
because
we
do
hear
this
from
the
community
a
lot
as
well,
just
from
an
education
perspective
that
property
taxes
do
not
pay
for
transportation,
gas
taxes,
pay
for
transportation,
other
fees,
pay
for
transportation,
but
property
taxes
do
not.
O
So
when
we
talk
about
transportation
funding
and
what
are
alternate
sources
of
funding,
it's
good
to
be
mindful
of
that,
and
in
that
vein,
that's
why
we
support
all
for
transportation
or
transportation
sales
tax
mechanism,
primarily
because
it
does
distribute
that
load
across
the
entire
community,
including
our
visitors
and
that's
key,
because
that
pool
is
then
shared
with
all
the
people
that
utilize
the
infrastructure.
That's
an
important
distinction
in
the
conversation
when
you
have.
A
G
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman,
and
a
lot
of
good
remarks
made.
I
think
the
basic
idea
is
that
we're
we're
asking
city
staff
to
perform
on
issues
like
repaving,
a
task
that
that
they're
unable
to
meet
because
of
a
lack
of
funding
the
the
gap
as
councilman
carlson
said
is,
is
three
to
one,
and
I
always
like
to
cite
the
fact
they're
three
to
four
to
one.
G
I'd
always
like
to
cite
the
fact
that
that
penny
sales
tax
would
have
brought
us
up
to
that
15
16
million
dollar
level
that
that
penny
sales
tax
didn't
give
us
what
we
what
our
dreams
were
or
what
we
wanted
it
gives
us
it
would
have
given
us
what
we
need.
So
that's
very
important.
I
mean
we're
asking
the
the
city
of
tampa
with
the
funding
that
they
have
to
produce
the
1986
mets
on
the
budget
of
the
1962
mets,
and
it's
not
going
to
work
out.
G
That's
a
baseball
joke
if
y'all
go
way
back
in
baseball,
but
but
that
that's
the
basic
idea
there.
I
think,
with
regards
to
the
city
of
tampa,
you
know
councilman
ding
dingfelder,
talking
about
backup
plans
for
a
penny
sales
tax.
I
would
support
that.
I've
always
been
very,
very
clear
and
frank
in
the
idea
that
we
need
more
revenue
revenue
in
order
to
fund
our
transportation
needs.
It's
just
a
basic
fact.
You
look
at
the
city
of
tampa
budget.
G
Most
of
it
goes
to
things
like
public
safety
that
the
vast
majority
of
the
city
supports.
Nobody
wants
a
cut
in
that
we
need
to
look
at
other
revenue
sources.
I
hope
that
we
can
get
that
through
a
a
sales
tax
and
if
that
doesn't
go
through,
we
need
to
look
at
other
avenues
for
for
the
abc's
of
local
governing,
and
that
starts
with
road
repaving.
That's
just
as
basic
as
we
get,
but
city
staff
does
a
great
job
with
what
they
have.
G
I
know
we've
been
working
together
on
tampa
palms
boulevard,
for
example,
and
I
thank
you
guys,
obviously
for
that
110
percent
for
all
your
hard
work,
but
but
there
are
so
many
needs
out
there
in
the
city
of
tampa
and
and
we
have
to
address
just
the
mathematical
challenges
that
we
have.
Thank
you
very
much,
sir
sister.
You
recognize
that
mr.
E
You
very
much
mr
chair
vic,
you
are
my
go-to
kind
of
guy
and
I
thank
you
for
all
the
help
that
you
provide
me.
You
are,
you
are
a
superstar.
I
think
the
public
needs
to
know
that
we
society
is
almost
shot
ourselves
in
the
foot.
E
The
monies
in
which
we
use
for
road
repair
come
from
gas
tax
and
because
we
wanted
a
cleaner
air,
we
wanted
a
cleaner
environment.
We
made
sure
that
our
manufacturers
made
our
automobiles
more
fuel
efficient,
hence
you're
buying
less
less
gas,
hence
you're
getting
less
tax
dollars.
E
It
may
be
instead
of
an
additional
type
of
tax
or
a
new
type
of
tax.
Have
we
thought
about
going
to
the
county?
Who
owns
a
lot
of
roads
in
this
city
that
we
are
custodians
of
and
going
to
the
county
and
saying?
Isn't
it
time
we
raise
the
taxes
on
our
gas
so
that
we
can
have
that
extra
zero
in
which
to
repave
our
streets
and
fill
those
potholes?
Have
we
gone
to
the
county
and
said
hey?
We
need
to
raise
our
gas
tax
and
if
we
have
what
have
they
said.
O
I
understand-
and
these
are
conversations
that
are
ongoing
right
now
with
the
county.
There
have
been
some
ideas
that
have
been
thrown
out:
they're
not
settled
yet,
but
we'll
be
happy
to
get
back
to
you
on
that.
But
I
also
wanted
to
add,
because
you
make
a
really
good
point
about
fuel
efficiency,
impacting
gas
tax
values,
even
though
everything
else
is
growing.
O
There's
another
thing
that's
happening
and
it's
going
to
grow
and
that's
electrification
of
our
fleets
at
every
form
factor
cars,
trucks
at
some
point-
you
name
it
and
that
is
going
to
have
an
adverse
impact
as
well.
In
fact,
it
is
right
now
and
we
are
working
throughout.
You
know-
with
advocacy
organizations
and
the
state
to
identify
different
means
of
electrification
of
our
fleets
and
what
it
will
mean
to
funding,
and
there
are
some
models
out
there,
but
we're
working
through
the
state
to
develop
an
electric
vehicle
master
plan.
O
O
Statewide,
the
second
is:
how
will
the
funding
scenario
for
transportation
be
impacted
with
electrification,
and
what
does
that
look
like?
Is
it
a
tax?
Is
it
a
fee
at
registration
and
there
are
different
models
there?
Georgia?
Does
it
one
way,
california
does
it
another,
and
there
are
other
examples
as
well
and
then
the
third
part
of
it
is
what
are
the
regulations
and
what
are
the
partnerships
that
are
necessary
to
make
this
happen?
O
So
this
evmp,
the
electric
vehicle
master
plan
draft
document,
does
address
some
of
these
things
and
we'll
continue
to
work
with
state
and
local
agencies
and
provide
our
input
to
that
as
well,
and
the
league
of
cities
is
involved
in
that
effort
would
drive
electric
florida
also.
E
And
thank
you
very
much
vic.
That
was
going
to
be
my
next
point
at
league
of
cities.
I
did
hear
of
a
multitude
of
cities
around
the
state
of
florida
that
not
only
used
their
mobility,
their
parking,
but
also
their
electrification
for
electrical
cars
for
quick
charging
and
parking,
and
it
was
bringing
in
revenues
for
both
and
a
portion
of
that
revenue
from
charging
was
took
and
put
into
the
funds.
Much
like
our
gas
taxes
was
always
great
ideas.
Thank
you,
vic.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Mr.
F
There's
so
many
things
to
speak
about.
First
of
all,
I
don't
know
how
many
miles
there
are
in
the
city
that
belongs
to
the
county,
but
I
don't
think
there's
hundreds
of
thousands
of
them
there's
only
50
60
miles
of
that,
so
we're
looking
at
a
small
amount
compared
to
the
city
of
2100
square
miles
of
I
mean
120
square
miles,
thousands
of
miles
of
road.
F
When
you
look
at
the
cra,
I
so
hardly
agree
with
mr
carlson.
I've
said
it
before
under
the
project
that
we
have
now
the
way
it
is.
It
was
fine
then,
but
it's
changed
in
my
mind
that
you
have
to
much
narrow
stem
it
to
be
narrow,
so
that
the
general
public
will
not
be
subsidizing
all
of
it
like
it
is
now
part
of
it
anyway,
when
you
look
at
the
ev
tax
guess
what?
F
If
it's
true,
what
I
hear
by
the
year
2035
to
2040
you're,
going
to
have
40
or
50
percent
of
all
the
cars
driven
in
america,
they're
going
to
be
electric
vehicles,
it's
changing
quicker
than
we
think.
When
that
happens,
you
better
have
something
in
place
to
replenish
the
gas
tax,
because
at
night
you're
going
to
have
measles
on
all
the
roads.
F
That
was
my.
My
father
used
to
tell
me
that
and
now
look
back
and
when
you
look
at
the
bonding
process,
if
you
borrow
money
to
pay
for
all
this,
but
if
you
think
progressively
you
can
set
something
aside
by
doing
something
differently,
that
we've
done
to
accumulate
some
money
so
that
every
year
you
get
an
extra
five
or
ten
million
dollars.
You'll
be
way
ahead
of
the
game
and
the
tax
to
the
bonds
will
be
zero
or
nothing.
F
F
So
what
I'm
saying
is
that
in
my
mind
you
have
to
set
up
something
that
you
can
get
some
monies
before
you
think
of
bonding
ahead,
so
you
can
have
a
head
start
and
not
bond
100
percent.
If
you
bond
100
you're
only
going
to
get
50
of
what
you
want
done,
because
the
rest
of
it
is
interest
and
that's
the
way
it
works
for
30
years.
F
So
it's
it's
a
tough
goal,
but
we
have
to
bite
the
bullet
on
what
we're
going
to
do
and
how
we're
going
to
do
it
and
I
think
the
public's
got
to
have
some
input
in
it.
But,
like
always,
I
appreciate
very
much,
but
the
cra
is
covered.
The
taxes
are
covering
the
gas,
the
country
roads.
So
here
we
are
back
to
ground
zero,
but
we
have
to
come
up
with
something
very
soon
or
we're
really
going
to
be
in
trouble
if
what
happened
with
ida
came
close
to
tampa.
F
The
system
that
we
have
in
place
now
will
not
work.
There
are
no
pumps,
there's
no
way
to
get
that
water
out
when
the
bay
gets
higher
than
what
it
is,
and
the
volume
of
water
is
greater.
Coming
in
that
the
volume
water
going
out
the
same
water
going
out,
it's
going
to
come
right
back
where
it
came
from
with
an
additional
push
of
high
tide.
F
So
you
have
to
have
something
in
the
billions
of
dollars,
two
to
three
billion
dollars
to
move
the
water
up
north
have
a
reservoir
or
some
area
to
dump
the
water
in
because
it
will
not
work.
And
anyone
who
says
something
like
that
that
it
does
work
in
that
volume
of
water.
I
got
to
see
that
plan
because
it's
very
difficult
to
do
what
we're
doing
with
little
money.
F
I
And
I'll
just
I'll
just
end
with
this,
you
know
something
that
councilman
ding
felter
said
what
would
be
a
a
dedicated
funding
source.
I
know
a
couple
years
ago
we
had
a
millage
increase
discussion,
but
since
this
is
this
is
something
that
would
be
dedicated
to
roads.
What
is
the
how
much
or
you
know
how
are
the
increments
for
the
millage
increase
that
you
generate
an
extra
5
10
15
million
dollars
a
year?
How
much
do
you
have
to
move
on
that
million?
I
Should
we
even
look
at
that,
or
I
know,
with
the
pipes
program,
it's
funded
through
utility
bills?
Is
that
correct?
How
do
we
look
at
possibly
increasing
the
utility
bill,
an
extra
couple
dollars
a
month
for
for
city
of
tampa
residents
that
goes
directly
to
roads,
because
roads
fits
in
with
storm
water,
waste
water?
I
It's
all
part
of
that
mobility,
where
we're
not
bonding
where
we're
not
borrowing
and
we're
just
you
know,
pay
pay
as
you
go
or
collect
as
you
go
kind
of
thing,
but
we
know
we
have
a
dedicated
revenue
source
also
if
it's
a
millage
increase
or
if
it's
anything
like
that,
it
could
be
temporary
and
we
could
put
a
caveat
if
we
have
to
that.
If
the
county
places
on
the
ballot,
another
sales
tax
increase
that
we
automatically
cancel,
that
out
and-
and
you
know,
rely
on
the
dedicated
source
of
the
sales
tax
revenue.
B
Mr
chairman,
the
mr
maynard
scott
good
questions
during
the
briefing
I
had
the
other
day
with
vic
and
gene
that
somebody
chimed
in
and
and
indicated,
and
I
don't
can't
confirm
this-
that
the
millage
increase
that
that
the
former
council
did,
which
was
like
the
first
one
in
20
years
after
the
recession
generated.
I
think
it
was
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
five
to
10
million
dollars.
I
think
it
was
10
additional
dollars,
which
was
obviously
the
shortfall
the
city
was
facing
that
year.
B
If
that's
the
case,
I
think
that's
a
partial
answer
for
you,
guido,
that
that
you
know
whatever
that
millage
was-
and
I
don't
remember
the
exact
number,
because
I
wasn't
on
council,
but
whatever
that
was,
if
it
generated
10
million
dollars,
10
million
dollars
is
double
the
the
current
paving
budget,
so
that
would
be
a
huge
shot
in
the
arm.
I
think
for
the
paving
you
know
for
the
paving
budget.
Would
it
solve
all
these
other
mobility
issues?
B
No
clearly,
no,
but
but
you
know
we
started
this
discussion
talking
about
paving
in
regard
to
the
pipes
and
and
utilities,
and
that
sort
of
thing
I
have
a
feeling.
If
we
ask
morris
he'd,
probably
tell
us,
we
can't
do
that
because
those
utility
funds,
as
you
know,
are
pretty
much
silos,
and
so
you
know
you
have
to
stay
within
those
lanes
of
if
you're,
if
you're
dealing
with
water,
it's
just
water.
B
I
The
thing
is,
it's,
you
know,
it'll
stop
here,
but
it's
a
win-win
for
everybody.
It
it's
good
for
all
of
council,
because
we
all
get
these
complaints,
and
you
know
we
can't
always
wait
on
the
county
to
move
or
on
a
sales
tax
referendum.
If
it's
going
to
pass
or
not
pass
a
one-year
millage
increase
to
catch
up,
I
think
you
know
will
give
us
quick
results
if
that's
the
fastest
route
to
do
it,
where
we
can
deliver
in
a
quicker
fashion.
Because
again
we
all
get
the
calls.
I
We
all
get
the
brunt
of
this
and
I
think
it's
a
winning
situation
for
everybody.
The
people
get
results
and
we
show
leadership
and
quick
action
on
this.
B
D
I
don't
know
whether
they're
hearing
this
up
and
legal,
but
certainly
your
your
requirements,
your
trim
notices
are
out.
Your
notices
are
out,
the
budget
hearings
are
set,
and
I
would
be
surprised
if
it
weren't,
but
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
this
is
something
that
certainly
you
could
plan
for
the
future,
but
in
terms
of
moving
forward,
even
if
it
could
be
done,
it
would
be
prohibitively
expensive
to
re-notice
the
city
accordingly,.
I
We
could
wait
till
next
year
in
the
meantime,
but
knowing
again
that
you
know
the
county
earmarked
that
35
million
there
are
a
few,
not
a
lot
of
roads
in
the
city
of
tampa
that
are
county.
Perhaps
we
can
encourage
our
our
colleagues
on
the
county
commission
to
help
us
move
forward
with
some
of
these
projects,
because
these
were
approved
three
four
years
ago.
It's
not
like
we're
asking
for
new
stuff.
A
lot
of
these
have
been
deferred,
so
it
would
be
beneficial
to
the
people
in
the
city
of
tampa
mrland.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
just
want
to
my
thoughts
again
going
by
memory.
If
I
recall
the
the
tax
collection
of
this
city
is
about
50
million
dollars,
short
of
just
paying
the
police
and
fire.
F
If
you
look
at
a
comparable,
what
the
costs
are,
how
much
you
bring
in
what
the
expenses
are,
so
you
have
to
be
very
careful
on
how
we
do
this
and
if
it's
you're,
looking
at
volume
tax,
you
better
must
look
at
another
avenue,
also
because
at
valor
tax,
it's
based
on
the
value
of
a
house
of
a
home
or
a
piece
of
property,
and
when
you
raise
it
a
little
bit,
it
goes
way
up
to
somebody
and
a
little
bit
to
somebody
else.
So
you
have
to
be
understanding
and
we're
talking
about
road
repair.
F
They
all
have
a
car.
Most
of
us
have
a
car,
and
even
if
you
don't
have
a
car,
either
using
transportation
system,
which
is
a
bus
and
they
have
to
come
in
with
some
money
also
because
so
you
have
to
look
at
it
in
a
much
broader
system
that
we're
looking
at
I'm
not
against
anything.
But
I'm
looking
at
something
much
broader
to
make
it
easy
but
equitable
to
all
that's
what
it's
got
to
be.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
assistant,.
E
And
if
we
can
councilman
maniscalco,
if
we're
going
to
ask
them
to
look
at
spending
their
monies
on
repairing
at
least
the
portion
in
which
their
roads
are
in
the
city
of
tampa,
can
we
also
to
please
ask
them,
take
a
long
hard
look
to
raising
the
the
taxes
on
our
on
our
gas?
Also
sure.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
B
Mr
chairman,
if
I
could
just
to
speed
this
up,
the
only
reason
I
asked
about
to
do
number
18
is
to
kind
of
let
the
community
know.
B
So
it's
not
just
a
consent
item,
but
let
the
community
know
that
this
year's
tranche
of
40
million
dollars
from
the
feds
for
the
american
rescue
plan
act
has
already
been
received
by
the
city.
And
now
we
have
to
decide
how
we're
going
to
divvy
that
up
and
dennis
you
can
tell
us
how
we're
going
to
divvy
up
the
40
million.
K
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
dennis
rogero,
chief
financial
officer,
of
course,
sir
you've
already
spoken
to
the
appropriation
for
housing.
It's
a
little
over
16.1
million
dollars.
The
we've
got
an
itemization
on
the
on
the
agenda
report,
which
I'll
I'll
read
through
the
general
fund
revenue
recovery.
Again,
those
that's
for
the
revenue
we've
lost
in
the
general
fund
and
our
expenses
associated
with
the
pandemics
13
million
dollars.
K
We've
got
4.6
million
dollars
for
fire
vehicles,
four
million
dollars
for
resurfacing
and
two
and
a
half
million
for
sidewalks
for
a
total
of
just
over
40
million
dollars.
And,
as
you
correctly
stated,
this
is
the
first
tranche
sometime
within
the
next
year.
In
less
than
a
year,
we
anticipate
receiving
the
next
40
million
dollars.
K
No.
Thank
you,
sir.
I
owe
you
a
back
brief
on
the
the
capital
construction
project
fund
reference
and
we've
researched,
that
that
is
a
reporting
and
accounting
requirement
for
this
grant.
So
that's
where
we
put
the
resurfacing
money
of
four
million
dollars
in
the
sidewalk
money
of
two
and
a
half
million
dollars.
That's
the
appropriate
place
to
spend
that
money
out
of
a
capital
construction
fund.
E
G
Just
very
briefly,
a
couple
of
things.
First
off,
mr
chairman,
I
actually
wanted
to
give
you
if
I
may,
a
public
as
as
councilman
dinglefelder
would
say
shout
out
I'll
steal
that
from
you,
yeah,
the
the
and
and
councilman
goods
does
so
many
wonderful
things
for
constituents,
but
our
our
good
friend
karen
clay
who's
such
a
nice
woman,
needed
some
help
on
a
personal
manner
involving
her
late
son
and
councilman
goodes,
provided
some
just
much
needed
assistance.
So
I
checked
with
her
to
see
if
it
was
okay.
G
G
That
god
bless
you
just
really
quick.
If
I
may,
this
is
for
april
7
2022.
Imagine
that
I
want
a
a
five-minute
presentation
on,
and
you
know
we
don't
have
the
name
of
the
person
here
I'll
have
to
move
back
on
that.
So
my
no
my
my
apologies,
I
don't
have
that.
On
november
4th
2021,
I'm
asking
for
a
five-minute
presentation
from
tampa
bay,
thrives
on
mental
health
before
tampa
city
council.
A
G
And
you
know
what
that's
it
for
the
other
one
I
gotta
get
the
name
and
I
don't
think
there's
anything
else.
Thank
you
all
right,
mr
maniscalco.
H
When
I,
when
I
narrowed
the
scope
of
that
item
earlier,
I
think
it
was
the
one
that
mr
o'hara
was
working
on.
A
Second,
mrs
carl's
move
october
21st.
Mr
dean
fell
a
second
all
in
favor,
all
right,
all
right
any
opposed
once
you
carry
it.
Thank
you.
You
got
it.
It's
central
you're
next.
B
Mr
carlson
speaking
of
dates,
so
the
community
was
really
engaged
with
us
on
this
sidewalk
issue
and
I
think
we've
we've
had
a
lot
of
wonderful
input
of
from
the
sidewalk
stompers
and
the
other
groups
advocating
for
changes
to
the
sidewalk
ordinance.
I
think
council
got
to
a
point
where
we
were
all
in
agreement
on
moving
forward,
but
we
didn't
really
establish
a
date.
B
You
know
the
status
of
that
and
I
think,
maybe
maybe
you
guys
have
seen
some
of
those
emails
bouncing
around.
But
this
morning
ms
zellman
says
if
we
want
to
move
forward
with
first
reading
for
the
changes
that
have
been
proposed,
that
we
could
do
that
on
10
21,
with
the
caveat
that
they
have
some
concerns
and
mr
miranda
stepped
out,
but
they
have
some
concerns
about
addressing
the
dollar
amount
for
raising
the
fee.
The
in
loop
fee
there's
some
legal
concerns
that
I
won't
get
into
today.
It
could
even
be
potential
litigation.
B
So
what
my
motion
would
be
that
we
move
forward
with
all
the
other
good
things
that
we
have
been
working
on
with
staff
and
legal
for
the
sidewalk
ordinance,
with
with
the
direction
to
legal,
to
bring
all
of
them
back
on
10
21
for
first
reading,
with
the
exception
of
changing
the
in
lieu
fee
amount.
B
Justin,
let
me
just
say
one
more
thing:
marty
before
you
do
in
in
deference
miss
miranda.
His
his
pending
motion
specifically
addressed
the
in
luffy
amount.
So
I
don't
think
he
I
don't
think
he'd
have
necessarily
have
a
problem
with
with
this,
and
I
also
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
the
builders
association
who
sent
us
a
letter
that
basically
said
they,
except
for
the
in
luffy
amount.
They
were
in
favor
of
the
rest
of
this
ordinance.
So
I
thought
that
was
good,
that
we
could
be
in
agreement.
Yes,
miss
shelley,
I'm
sorry.
D
If
I
can,
mr
chairman,
just
to
go
back,
I
want
to
make
sure
the
clerk
is
clear
that
you're
asking
this
to
come
back
for
the
sidewalk
ordinance
for
first
reading,
consideration
on
october
21st
without
the
issue
of
raising
or
adjusting
the
in-lieu
fee.
Is
that
correct,
correct?
Okay,
the
other
the
other
issue
about
that?
D
Is
I
happen
to
notice
that,
while,
with
regard
to
your
motion,
there
was
noted
no
date
attached
nor
there
was
a
date
attached
to
mr
miranda's
motion
and
I'm
wondering
whether
we
should
just
rather
than
leave
it
out
there,
and
I
don't
know
whether
he's
coming
back,
but
maybe
it's
appropriate
that
that
also,
I
don't
know
whether
I
can
see
ms
zellman
online,
whether
that
would
be
able
to
be
appropriate
to
be
traveling
together,
because
the
issues
are
are
related
in
some
form
or
fashion.
B
D
Okay,
I'll
bring
that
to
to
his
attention
mary
bryan's
attention.
It
also
can
I
ask
one
more
thing:
ms
zellman
I
see
is
online,
and
this
is
related
to
another
motion
of
of
you,
mr
dingfelder,
on
may
6,
you
made
a
motion
for
a
workshop
regarding
the
council
looking
at
and
the
legal
department.
D
Looking
at
the
comp
plan,
amendment
16-02,
I
believe,
that's
the
subject
of
a
motion
that
was
sent
to
council
this
week
on
august
31st
from
susan
johnson
velez,
and
she
states
that
the
litigation
remains
ongoing
and
the
legal
department
does
not
anticipate
a
resolution.
D
It
is
now
set
for
discussion
on
your
september
23rd
workshop,
so
they
are
requesting
that
the
matter
be
removed
from
the
september
23rd
workshop,
and
there
is
no
date
that
to
to
have
it
rescheduled,
but
I
just
want
to
know
whether
you
want
to
because
it
is,
I
believe
it's
rattlesnake
point.
B
I
read:
I
read
the
memo
miss
shelby.
Yes,
I'm
just
comfortable
with
the
memo
I'd
like
just
so
we
can
keep
it
somewhat
alive.
Why
don't
we
defer
that
item
to
the
january
workshop
and
just
so
there's
a
bookmark
and
if,
if
they
can't
talk
about
it
in
january
they'll,
let
us
know.
B
B
D
A
Mr
dean
found
his
motion
have
a
second
said,
mr
carlson,
all
in
favor
all
right,
any
opposed
motion
care.
Thank
you,
sir.
Anything
else.