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B
C
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F
Council
abbey
philly,
deputy
administrator
for
development
and
growth
management
in
place
of
miss
henderson
this
afternoon.
This
is
a
walk-on.
We
have
received
6.3
million
dollars
in
home
arp,
which
is
part
of
the
american
rescue
plan,
and
this
money
is
coming
in
and
is
going
to
provide
homeless
assistance
and.
F
D
F
D
H
Good
afternoon
council
of
syrwin
administrator
of
neighborhood
and
community
affairs,
I
too
have
a
walk-on
item.
I
wanted
to
give
you
an
update
on
where
we
are,
since
the
acquisition
of
the
penny
saver.
I
wanted
to
proactively
come
to
keep
you
abreast
on
where
we
are
in
the
progress
that
we're
making.
H
So
after
the
acquisition,
the
purchase
of
the
penny
saver
and
which
I'm
sure
all
of
you
are
aware,
we
have
been
working
on
the
closure
of
caracas
councilman
goods.
You
know
when
we
had
community
meetings.
That
was
a
concern
regarding
the
safety
issues
with
cars,
speeding
down
caracas,
so
the
second
hearing
for
that
will
be
august
4th
forth.
H
During
that
time,
as
we
are
acquiring
the
penny
saver,
we
are
also
working
on
the
rfq
for
the
the
work
to
be
done
for
the
actual
complex
we
have
selected
one
firm,
we
started
with
six
down.
The
selection
committee
ended
up
with
three
with
one
firm
that
was
finally
chosen
for
that
selection
process.
H
H
G
We
elaborate
or
can
we
acknowledge
who
the
firm
is.
H
The
firm
yes,
we
can
so
the
firm
that
we
are
having
the
negotiations
with
is
skansa
and
skansa
there.
The
architecture,
architectural
firms
are
harry
howard,
architectural
firms,
as
well
as
kim
jackson,
a
pr
firm
who
will
be
doing
the
community
engagement
piece
of
this
project.
G
H
None
of
the
firms
that
applied
that
that
were
out
of
the
six
were
african-american
firms.
None
of
them
came
through
as
certified
firms
to
participate
in
the
in
the
process.
H
However,
the
companies
who
the
consultants
of
the
companies
businesses
who
bidded
on
the
contracts
they
came
with
partners
the
ebo
partners,
but
none
of
those
that
came
up
to
bid
on
the
contract,
were
actually
ebo
firms
in
and
of
themselves.
G
Because
I
heard
of
two
of
the
names
and
two
of
the
names
I
thought
were
big,
that
are,
that
are
minority
firms
that
were
pretty
big
firms
that
so
I'm
kind
of
surprised
that
that
happened.
But
I
I
mean,
I
know
two
to
the
firms
very
well
so,
but
but
but
okay,
all
right.
Whoever
got
too
late
that
got
selected.
H
Okay,
so
we
will
have
a
workforce
and
apprenticeship
compliance
program
like
we
use
we've,
I'm
taking
the
lessons
learned
from
some
of
the
other
projects
and
embedding
them
here
ahead
of
the
actual
project,
but
we're
in
the
negotiations
of
in
terms
of
that
piece
as
we
move
forward
we're
excited
and
I'm
quite
sure
everyone
is
excited
to
see
this
project
take
place.
H
And
again
I
like
I
said
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
got
ahead
of
this
before
you,
so
that
you'll
know
where
we
are
and
what
our
next
steps
are.
So
our
next
steps
are
are
to
have
the
community
engagement
piece,
another
community
engagement
piece
to
get
input
in
terms
of
what
the
community
would
like
to
see
in
the
actual
building
and.
H
G
All
right,
okay,
all
right!
That's
good!
And
just
another
added
point.
I
know
when
we
start
that
you
know
a
lot
of
the
kids
walk
or
the
staff
walks
walk
the
kids
from
three
different
elementary
schools
there.
So
somehow,
if
we're
going
to
bring
that
new
design
on
the
front
of
34th
street,
closer
we'd
have
a
crosswalk
somewhere
in
that
midpoint
up
there.
G
H
Yes,
sir,
that
all
of
that
will
be
taken
into
the
consideration
and
including
because
we
are
looking
at
having
a
senior
center.
How
do
we
make
it
convenient
for
the
seniors
who
are
not
in
the
area
to
get
there?
So
what
are
the?
How?
What
partnerships
do
we
need
with
heart,
or
maybe
some
of
the
other
agencies
to
make
it
more
convenient?
So
we're
looking
at
this?
Fourthly
and
holistically,
instead
of
just
at
one
point
in
time
we're
just
doing
a
project.
G
And
possibly
looking
at
maybe
a
a
bus
ramp,
first
hardline
or
somebody
because
you
know
again,
this
is
parker's
not
just
for
that
area.
It's
for
all
that
surrounding
area
with
the
amenities
we're
talking
about
putting
there.
So
you
know
those
may
catch
the
bus
or
the
heart
plus
can
drop
them
off
and
have
a
safe
place
to
drop
those
seniors
off.
H
Right
so
we
are
looking
at
our
next.
I
keep
saying
next
steps,
but
our
next
immediate
steps
are
demoing.
The
the
penny
saver.
The
building
has
been
secured
with
the
fence
we're
looking
at
cutting
the
power,
not
everything
that's
needed
for
that,
and
realistically,
I
think
within
the
next
two
or
three
weeks,
we'll
start
with
the
demo.
We're
gonna
make
this
a
public
event,
because
what
we're
doing
in
this
area
is
is
in
fact
historical.
So
community's
excited
right.
G
G
F
I
I
In
a
in
the,
I
think
it
was
the
cra
meeting,
but
please
keep
in
mind
when
going
to
the
public
that
the
cra
initiated
this
effort
and
we
the
cra,
put
in
money.
This
is
we're
not
sitting
at
cra
right
now,
but
also
city
council
advocated
for
it.
I
So
I
appreciate,
if,
first
of
all,
if
the
cra
was
recognized,
not
individuals
but
just
the
the
organization,
so
that
the
public
knows
that
the
cra
contributed
to
it
and
also
that
city
council,
at
least
as
a
whole,
be
included
so
that
the
public
knows
that
we're
working
together
on
it.
Thank
you.
H
Yes,
sir
councilman
carlson,
I
guess
in
my
haste
to
sit
down.
I
did
not
publicly
know
that,
in
fact,
it
was
the
contributions
from
the
cra
and
city
council
with
the
cra
to
make
this
possible
city
council.
We
had
local
state
and
federal
partners.
H
We
have
a
contribution
to
the
senior
center
only
I
want
to
keep
saying
that,
but
a
million
dollars
that
that's
has
been
given
to
us
by
federally
for
the
senior
center
and
then
as
well
as
our
community
partners.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
that.
E
Thank
you,
miss
win.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
councilman
vieira
has
joined
us
by
my
internet
next
agenda
items.
Agenda.
Item
number
four
file:
number
pw22-75850.
J
Good
morning,
city
council,
gene
duncan
administrator
for
infrastructure
mobility
apologize.
I
was
just
finding
my
item
among
the
many
that
I
am
working
on
here.
We
have
an
item
for
a
contract
that
is
over
the
three
million
dollar
limit.
I
shared
the
ebo
participation
and
breakdown
with
that
on
our
council
briefings
I
apologize.
J
I
don't
have
that
right
in
front
of
me
about
my
recall,
was
about
a
32.1
percent
ebo
participation
on
that
contract
is
for
water
main
work
in
the
bilmar
gardens
area,
very
important
work
to
get
that
infrastructure
replaced
and
up
and
running
properly.
So
we're
asking
for
your
approval
of
moving
that
contract
forward.
So
we
can
get
that
water
main
workout.
It
is
part
of
our
pipes,
project
and
again
we're
pleased
that
we
have
a
ebo
participation
of
about
32.1
percent.
A
E
J
J
B
J
Sir,
yes,
this
is
a
a
cost
increase
actually
to
an
existing
contract
that
were
issued
in
2018.
It's
for
a
lot
of
different
elements
associated
with
odor
and
corrosion
control
or
wastewater
treatment
plants.
The
cost
increase
is
about
443
thousand.
J
It
is
the
first
time
this
contractor
is
asked
for
a
cost
increase,
and
that
is
due,
of
course,
as
we
all
know,
to
increasing
prices,
and
this
particular
chemical
that
we
require
for
the
order.
Control
is
called
bioxide
and
the
cost
for
that
has
gone
up.
So
we're
asking
for
approval
of
this
cost
increase
for
this
particular
item
for
our
wastewater
department.
E
We
have
a
motion
made
by
councilman
maniscalco
seconded
by
councilman
goodes,
all
in
favor.
All
right
is
there
any
opposed
miss
duncan
at
at
this
time.
Even
though
there
was
a
couple
continued
agenda
items,
43
and
44-
I
see
whit,
riemer
is
here.
I
I
would
like
to
at
least
have
some
discussion
on
that.
If
you
would
rick
mr
emmer
excuse
me.
J
We
appreciate
that
chair.
We
do
have
some
consultants
with
us
that
have
traveled
from
tallahassee,
as
well
as
mr
remmer,
who
left
his
family
vacation
with
three
young
children.
So
we
do
appreciate
just
a
short
amount
of
time
to
share
the
information
from
that
staff
report.
I
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
object
to
this
it's
out
of
order.
This
is
the
public
was
here
this
morning
to
give
input
on
this,
and
this
appears
to
be
a
political
attempt
to
push
a
project
that
the
public
doesn't
want
and
it's
without
public
scrutiny.
It's
not
scheduled
for
this
time,
so
nobody
would
be
watching
this.
J
B
Showed
up
these
items
were
put
in
the
agenda.
In
fact,
these
items
were
voted
to
be
transferred
in
november
to
september
15
22,
without
anyone
asking
if
anybody
else
in
the
audience
had
any
participation
they've
been
here
if
I'm
wrong,
I've
seen
some
of
these
faces
here.
If
you
were
here,
nine
o'clock
in
the
morning
just
raise
your
hand
or
9
30
in
the
morning,
so
they
were
here.
They
were
not
heard
and
we
passed
this
prematurely
to
send
it
to
september
15th
of
22..
I
B
I
B
B
I
B
B
I
K
Okay,
councilman
carl
said
we
don't
have
a
full
presentation.
We
just
had
a
quick
update.
Respectfully
every
member
of
council
has
been
briefed
on
exactly
what
we
were
presenting
today.
It
was
in
sire.
We
regretfully
had
to
move
a
standing
meeting
that
we
have
with
some
of
the
stakeholders
that
was
scheduled
for
last
week.
It's
now
scheduled
for
tomorrow.
K
L
J
K
C
Thank
you
very
much.
You
know
it's
funny
because
when
that
motion
was
originally
made
early
in
the
meeting,
I
was
surprised
if
the
administration
didn't
want
to
go
forward
with
it
or
didn't
want
to
have
it
continued
that
that
someone
didn't
say
something
early
on
I'm
I'm
for.
If
the
administration
wants
to
make
comments
on
this,
I'm
fine
with
it.
I
I
it's
my
belief,
they're
not
going
to
make
the
whole
presentation
on
it.
You
know
and
I'll
I'll
just
end
it
at
that.
C
I
mean
again
I'm
fine
with
hearing
people
out,
but
if
we're
gonna
vote
to
change
something
from
what
was
done
earlier
this
morning,
you
know
a
lot
of
people
may
have
left
who
were
gonna,
speak
on
that
and
may
have
left.
Because
of
that,
I
think
again,
I'm
not
there
physically,
but
I'm
just
saying
that,
but
I'm
fine
with
going
forward
and
allowing
folks
to
talk,
but
again
everything
within
good
measure.
A
A
G
I
I
don't
have
a
problem
against
comments
from
staff
that
case,
but
the
general
public
was
here
and
we
decided
to
move
to
the
15th,
so
they
don't
have
an
opportunity
to
rebut
if
they've
got
the
consultants.
Whoever
here
to
talk,
they
don't
have
a
chance
to
give
their
opinion
on
that.
So
I
think
that
might
be
an
issue.
D
F
Yes,
ma'am,
but
also
it
we
we
had.
It
said
in
this
agenda
that
requesting
that
the
item
be
moved
to
staff
report,
so
it
wasn't
going
to
be
a
consent
agenda
item.
D
But
even
under
staff
reports
you
don't
typically
have
a
public,
it's
not
scheduled
for
a
public
hearing.
You
typically
hear
it
separately
under
staff
reports.
You
don't
typically,
unless
you
can.
Obviously
the
council
can
waive
its
rules
and
allow
public
comment
at
almost
any
time
during
the
meeting.
But
typically
you
take
the
public
comment
on
anything.
That's
not
set
for
a
public
hearing
under
general
public
comment.
That's
how
it
means.
I
What's
going
to
happen,
if
he
presents
even
what
he
just
said
is
not
true,
it
doesn't
stay
within
the
lanes.
It
doesn't
follow
the
exact
description.
It's
the
whole
thing
is
put
together
in
a
biased
way
and
do
are
we
going
to
spend
three
hours
talking
about
this?
Are
we
gonna?
Are
we
gonna
and
let
them
present
misinformation
again
or
are
we
gonna
have
this
at
a
time
when
the
public
can
give
input
on
it.
E
A
C
A
E
K
Thank
you
and
again
we
don't
have
a
whitramer
sustainability
and
resilience
office
for
the
city
of
tampa.
We
don't
have
a
formal
presentation
today.
So
thank
you
for
allowing
me
just
the
opportunity
to
tell
you
just
a
little
bit
about
the
amendment
before
you.
If
you'll
remember,
back
in
february
of
this
year,
the
city
came,
the
administration
came
to
city
council,
with
a
contract
to
undertake
an
initial
services
agreement
with
pcl
they're,
the
prime
on
a
big
water
reuse
project
that
the
city
is
considering
that
we
call
pure
under
that
initial
services
contract.
K
There
were
a
few
alternatives
that
the
city
had
kind
of
narrowed
down
through
some
previous
engineering
city
council
made
very
very
clear
to
us
that
those
alternatives
weren't
sufficient,
that
they
didn't
cover
a
broad
enough
set
of
options
on
how
to
beneficially
reuse.
The
city's
water,
so
city,
council
and
members
of
many
environmental
stakeholder
groups
asked
that
the
city
go
and
amend
that
contract
to
look
at
all
available
options.
K
K
The
second
thing
that
that
this
body
and
the
public
asked
for
was
for
robust
public
engagement.
We
had
some
some
very
preliminary
documents
that
were
put
together
by
the
then
public
engagement
consultant,
which
weren't
sufficient
to
us
and
previewing
those,
I
think
with
some
members
of
council
and
the
public
didn't
didn't,
really
meet
the
mark.
So,
for
the
last
couple
of
months,
we've
been
working
on
this
amendment
to
include
all
the
alternatives
that
this
body
suggested
recommended,
demanded
and
also
to
search
for
a
new
public
engagement
consultant.
K
We
have
done
both
of
those
things.
Those
are
in
the
amendment.
This
is
literally
an
amendment
that
city
council
requested
us
to
put
together.
You
know,
I
regret
that
we
weren't
able
to
brief
the
full
amendment
to
that
stakeholder
group
that
we
meet
with
regularly
last
week,
but
they
are
in
receipt
of
it
now,
and
the
amendment
is
not
going
to
change
between
today
and
september.
It's
going
to
stay
the
same,
so
just
delaying
it
unfortunately
works
against.
K
I
think
what
perhaps
council
is
asking
for,
which
is
the
opportunity
for
the
public
to
engage
more
that's
what
this
amendment
does.
It
allows
us
to
go
out
and
start
that
really
important
public
engagement
right
now.
The
water
department
and
my
department
feel
really
constrained
with
the
amount
of
work
we
can
do
on
the
peer
program,
because
we've
got
a
very
small
slice
of
funding
available.
K
This
contract
amendment
with
pcls
for
1.1
million
dollars
and
some
change
and
will
allow
us
to
go
answer
all
of
the
questions
that
I
think
councilman,
carlson
and
other
members
have
posed
to
us.
We
can't
do
this
work.
We
can't
start
answering
these
questions.
We
can't
do
the
engineering
and
the
public
engagement
without
this
amendment
in
place
and
nothing's
going
to
change
between
now
and
september.
I
would
respectfully
ask
this
body
to
rescind
the
continuance
and
voting.
I.
I
Thought
he
was
just
going
to
give
an
update,
see
this
is
another
there's
another
ploy
by
the
administration
to
try
to
sell
this.
Mr
chair
number
one
we,
the
the
city,
I've
talked
to
the
dep
the
city.
If
the
city
sends
a
an
honest
request
to
the
ep,
they
will
get
approved
to
continue
doing
exactly
what
we're
doing,
which
will
buy
us
time.
I
The
main
excuse
for
moving
this
port
is
that
the
state
is
forcing
us
to
do
it's
not
true
and
if
they
send
a
request
to
dep
which
they
told
me
they're
going
to
do
that
has
any
bias
whatsoever
in
it.
I
may
end
up
personally
filing
a
lawsuit,
because
I
am
sick
and
tired
of
this
misinformation
out
there
number
two.
I
The
alternatives
were
not
based
on
science,
they're
based
on
politics
and
desire
by
somebody
all,
but
one
of
them
required
the
city
and
and
city
water
rate
payers
to
spend
millions,
if
not
billions,
of
dollars
to
build
something
when
we
absolutely
don't
have
to
one
of
the
alternatives
would
be
to
sell
the
water,
as
is
that's
not
included
in
there
and
all
of
these.
All
of
these
alternate
can
I
finish.
Please
you,
these
alternatives
do
do
not
include
that.
I
So
these
these
alternatives
are
not
the
right
alternatives,
they're
not
based
on
what
I
request,
or
we
requested
public
engagement.
As
I
best
I
read
it.
There
are
now
three
pr
firms,
including
one
from
tallahassee,
that's
sitting
in
the
back
you've
had
since
february,
and
the
contract
says
we'll
put
together
a
public
engagement
plan
for
you.
Well,
why
didn't
you
do
that
in
february
or
march
now,
you're
going
to
ask
us
for
money,
so
we
can
go
put
together
a
plan.
I
It
should
by
now
have
a
list
of
all
the
public
meetings,
what
you're
going
to
do,
etc.
Instead,
what
it
has
is
we're
going
to
create
videos,
we're
going
to
create
a
branding
manual,
an
identity
manual
for
pure,
so
that
we
can
explain
to
the
public
what
it
is,
presumably
so
they'll
like
it.
This
is
not
about
public
engagement
anymore,
it's
turning
into
a
political
campaign,
because
the
mayor
knows
it's
a
liability
she's
not
going
to
get
reelected
if
this
gets
passed.
I
Anybody
who
votes
for
this
is
not
going
to
get
related
the
public
hates
it
they're,
including
a
poll.
They
want
to
find
out
what
the
public
says.
The
poll
likely
will
be
skewed
just
like
everything
else.
They
present-
and
this
is
a
this-
is
a
huge
problem.
This
is
not
if
this
does
not
change
between
now
and
then
there
are
going
to
be
a
thousand
people
here
in
the
public,
because
this
is
not
acceptable.
I
It's
it's
pretending
like
they're,
listening
to
us,
pretending,
like
they're,
listening
to
public
and
they're,
absolutely
not
they're,
trying
to
pull
one
over
on
the
public
they
want
to.
They
want
to
double
or
triple
water
rates
and
make
people
drink,
potty,
water
or
put
potty
water
in
our
system,
and
we
don't
need
to
do
that.
We
don't
need
to
waste
ratepayer
money
on
this.
We
need
to
do
something.
That's
responsible
for
this
public.
G
You
know,
mr
miranda,
you
you
you,
you
are
a
sports
fanatic,
guy
baseball
guy,
you
know
I'm
a
football
guy,
but
I'm
going
to
tell
you
there's
a
flag
on
the
plate,
there's
a
witness,
a
flag
on
the
plate.
G
You
had
him
until
you
said
what
you
said,
but
I
I
have
to
agree
with
him
on
that
portion.
You
had.
I
mean
I
was
good,
you
know
I'll.
Let
you
tell
your
spirit
well,
but
then
you
come
and
tell
us
council
what
you
wanted
us
to
go
and
go
and
move
this
to
me.
That's
a
fire
on
the
plate.
So
I
can
see
why
the
man
is
hot,
he's
hot.
I
I
can't.
I
can't
blame
him,
but
that
was
a
flag.
B
B
B
F
I've
been
working
on
this
issue
all
week.
I've
we've
been
talking
about
it.
I've
been
asking
for
different
documents.
I
want
to
know
what
the
money's
currently
been
spent
on,
as
I
mentioned
earlier.
This
is
this
is
what
I
do
in
my
day:
job
monitoring
and
evaluation
of
aid
projects
of
government
projects.
This
is
what
I
do
and
in
midterm
evaluations
when
you're
at
the
midpoint
of
something
and
when
you're
coming
back
and
asking
for
more
money,
you
have
to
account
for
where
the
money
has
been
spent
already.
F
I
asked
for
that
and
I
got
a
list
of
things,
but
I
don't
know
how
much
was
spent
on
each
thing,
so
I'm
I
want
to
know
where
the
money's
been
spent.
Then
I
also
want
to
know
the
money
that
we're
going
to
be
spending.
Where
is
it
going
to
be
spent?
I
echo
councilman
carlson.
We
do
not
need
three
pr
firms
for
this
when
reading
through
the
documentation,
I
got
last
night
again
the
same
documentation
on
the
pr
firm.
I
do
not
understand
what
the
pr
firm
is
going
to
do
for
us.
F
It
sounds
like
they're
trying
to
sell
the
project
when
that
is
not
what
this
council
asked
for.
This
council
asked
for
them
to
educate
about
these
these
possible
issues
and
even
if
the
public
wanted
to
continue.
So
if
it's
such
a
good
idea,
this
project
should
sell
itself.
It
should
not
need
three
or
three
pr
firms
also
again
having
come
in
in
the
middle
of
this.
My
question
is:
what
is
pure
actually
is
pure
a
solution
for
drinking
water
and
finding
cheaper
and
better
ways
to
do
that
or
is.
F
Is
it
to
satisfy
the
wastewater
mandate
and
if,
even
if
it
is
that,
what
is
the
state's
mechanism
for
enforcement
of
this
mandate?
So
there's
so
many
unanswered
questions
I
do.
I
do
not
want
them
answered
right
now.
I
am
just
speaking
about
what
I
was
going
to
speak
on.
If
this
had
actually
come
up,
so
I'm
going
to
mention
it
because
now
I
don't
know
if
it's
going
to
go
to
a
vote
and
I'm
really
mad
about
that.
F
Because,
again,
I
was
prepared-
and
I'm
glad
I
was
prepared,
but
this
this
is
not
okay,
just
just
throwing
it
back
on
us
is
not
okay.
I
want
the
public
here,
but
I
also
really
want
accounting
for
where
the
money's
gone
and
where
it's
going
to
go.
I'm
I'm
fine
with
supporting
an
amendment
for
it,
but
I
still
want
to
know
the
absolute
to
the
penny
where
that
money
is
going
to
go
and
where
it's
been,
where
it's
been
spent
already,
because
it
doesn't
sound
like
it's
been
spent
on
actually
making
this
plan.
M
Good
afternoon
john
bennett,
chief
of
staff,
I
try
and
do
my
best
over
the
last
three
years
to
be
collaborative
and
collegial
with
all
parties
council.
I
hope
council
agrees
with
that.
I
try
and
sit
in
as
many
of
water
conversations
as
possible,
knowing
that
I
have
seven
other
portfolios
to
watch
and
try
and
make
sure
that
I
at
least
listen
and
hear.
M
So
that's
kind
of
I
try
and
simplify
things.
So
I
listen
for
those
facets.
All
the
time-
and
I
didn't
come
up
here
to
say
anything
about,
and
I
I
do
listen
to
councilman
carlson
when
he
talks
about
the
difference
between
pure
as
a
process
versus
a
program,
and
I
try
and
make
sure
that
we
listen
in
that
same
way
when
I
get
into
these
meetings
sometimes.
M
But
the
only
reason
I
came
up
is-
and
I
do
agree
with
everything
said
about
the
public
and
and
if
we
have
to
continue
it
to
get
the
information
that
council
is
asking
today.
I
think
that's
a
very
responsible
thing
to
do
and
I'm
willing
to
sit
in
with
any
group.
M
I
think
we're
trying
to
have
a
meeting
with
councilman
carlson
offline,
to
hear
more
of
the
ideas
and
and
try
and
make
sure
we
find
the
common
ground
on
this
for
the
future
of
tampa,
which
is
really
the
only
goal,
and
I
will
say
the
region,
because
I
am
a
regionally
minded
person.
I
worked
across
the
bay.
M
I
understand
the
intricacies
of
of
all
these
basic
needs
and
transportation,
but
the
one
thing
I
would
say-
and
I
talked
to
the
chairman
about
this-
and
I
would
just
appreciate
all
of
us
working
together
on
it-
is
that
if
something
is
going
to
get
continued
during
the
gender
review,
can
we
give
the
staff
a
chance
to
give
feedback
about
the
continuance,
whether
it
goes
or
stays?
It
doesn't
matter
to
me.
But
one
thing
we
tend
to
not
do
is
we?
M
I
I
We
have
to
do
what's
in
the
best
interest
of
the
public
and
it's
not
in
the
best
interest
public
for
the
ratepayers
to
take
on
billions
of
dollars
of
debt,
or
even
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
of
that,
and
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
tell
the
truth
and
we
tell
it
consistently
and
I'll
give
you
a
couple
examples
which
I've
mentioned
before
you
know
the
first
time
I
met
the
mayor
about
this
three
years
ago.
I
She
said:
well,
we
can't
work
with
tambay
water,
for
example,
because
the
desal
plant
doesn't
work,
and
I
said
it's
been
working
for
15
or
20
years,
but
it
showed
that
somebody
had
given
her
false
information.
Somebody
given
the
mayor,
false
information
and
she
said
well,
it's
not
working
at
capacity,
and
I
explained
it's
the
most
expensive
source
of
water,
and
so
it's
not
used
at
full
capacity,
because
we
don't
need
that.
I
You
and
I
sat
in
a
meeting
with
the
mayor
in
february
and
my
legislative
aide
was
there
and
she
said
well,
we
can't
buy
from
tambien
water,
because
their
water
quality
is
bad,
and
I
said,
madam
mayor,
we
disproved
this
publicly
three
years
ago.
The
water
is
treated
two
different
ways
and
it's
a
250
000
a
year
fix
to
fix
it,
and
so
again
she
was
given
false
information,
and
I
I
think
that
she's
got
the
best
interest
of
the
public
at
mine,
hopefully,
but
but
somebody
is
giving
her
false
information.
I
I
We
had
the
police
this
morning
and
there
are
disagreements
about
different
things,
but
I
never
hear
feedback
like
I
do
on
this
there's
so
many
people
in
the
public
that
don't
trust
this
process
and
we
need
to
take
a
step
back
and
not
force
it
through
and
and
put
up
false
reasons
to
push
it
through
quickly.
I
The
way
it's
set
up
in
this
document,
it
looks
like
we're
going
to
create
a
brand
and
brand
document
and
videos
to
sell
it
to
the
public
because
they're
we,
we
think
they're
dumb
and
they
just
don't
understand
it
or
that
I'm
dumb
and
I
don't
understand
it
and
the
truth
is
that
we
do
understand
it,
which
is
why
we're
against
it.
We
want
the
water
department
to
do
the
right
thing,
so
I
look
forward
to
working
with
whomever
to
try
to
make
this
an
honest
project
that
will
be
better
better
for
everyone.
M
Thank
you
and
I
appreciate
that
feedback.
I
will
say
that
you
know
not
being
a
water
expert
by
any
sense
of
imagination.
You
know
I
watched
the
mayor
when
she
first
entered
office.
The
first
thing
she
did
was
invited
regional
partners
in
knowing
this
was
a
concern
and
asked
her
their
feedback
on
on
how
to
do
this,
both
locally
and
regionally
and
and
she
was
willing
to
take
in
that
feedback.
So
you
know
that's
the
one
thing
that
I
really
applaud.
M
Our
leadership
for
whether
it's
council
or
the
mayor
is
that
their
willingness
to
listen
to
all
different
things
and
come
out
with
the
right
answer
both
for
our
jurisdiction
and
our
contiguous
jurisdictions
going
forward,
because
this
probably
will
be
the
most
important
resource
you
know
in
in
our
repertoire
of
government
services
going
forward.
So
I'm
willing
to
do
whatever
I
can
to
keep
working
with
the
groups
to
help
it
move
forward.
M
But
I
just
wanted
to
ask
that
one
consideration,
because
there
are
good
reasons
to
continue
things
and
sometimes
we've
got
to
move
the
ball
forward,
but
I
would
just
ask
if
we
could
just
ask
the
lead
staff
person
and
again
then
the
vote
is
the
vote
after
that.
That's
all
I'm
asking
so
thank
you.
Counselor.
F
Thank
you,
chief
bennett
for
bringing
up
another
point
about
not
being
a
water
expert.
I
am
not
a
water
expert.
No
one
up
here
is
a
water
expert,
and
so
we
do
rely
on
the
water
department
and
their
experts,
and-
and
one
of
the
questions
I
asked
was
that
you
know
we
choose
a
we.
F
We
choose
a
firm
to
work
with
that
really
understands
water
too,
and
not
just
a
necessarily
a
political
pr
firm
and
I
I
would
really
really
want
any
firm
that
comes
in
front
of
us
for
approval
to
show
that
they
can
talk
about
these
complicated
water
issues.
I
have
been
on
weekly
phone
calls,
hour-long
calls
to
learn
about
water
and
all
of
these
different
options,
and
I
keep
saying
how
difficult
it
is
to
understand-
and
I
don't
know
how
they
are
going
to
distill
this
into
the
five
different
options
in
in
ways
that
folks
understand.
F
So
to
me,
the
choice
of
the
pr
firm
is
the
most
important
thing
we
can
do
so
I
need
to
know
that
those
people
understand
water
and
I
I
even
joked-
and
I
don't
think
I
was
now-
I
don't
think
I
was
joking-
that
I
want
to.
I
think
that
that
council
should
see
the
presentation
before
it
goes
to
the
public,
so
that
we
can
make
sure
it's.
F
What
is
it
sixth
grade
quality
that
that
everyone
can
understand
it?
So
I
this
is
very
complicated,
very
important,
and
I
think
what
we
are
all
saying
is
we
just
don't
want
to
get
it
wrong
and
we
don't
want
any
misinformation
to
make
it
to
the
public,
because
they've
already
have
a
mindset
on
this
and
we're
not
trying
to
change
minds
we're
trying
to
educate
on
all
the
options.
F
So
what
I
would
again
when,
when
you
come
forward
on
september
15th,
I
want
to
see
what
they're
planning
on
doing.
I
I
don't
need
an
answer
now,
I'm
just
saying
I.
I
really
want
more
in
depth
on
what
this
is
going
to
look
like
for
the
general
public.
K
May
I
just
respond
briefly.
Thank
you.
The
the
presentation
today
was
never
the
presentation
from
the
community
engagement
firm.
The
vote
today
was
to
go
under
contract
with
that
firm,
so
they
could
develop
those
materials.
The
reason
there
are
three
are
pr
firms
is
because
this
is
a
very
complicated
issue,
so
we
need
robust
resources
to
go
out
and
do
that
engagement.
K
K
I
I
heard
that
one
of
the
requests
was
at
least
seven
meetings-
that's
been
noted
already,
but
but
we
can't
put
these
people
to
work
without
an
amendment
to
this
contract,
and
I
just
wanted
to
offer
that
so
the
what
we
come
with
on
september
15th
was
going
to
be
no
different
than
what
I'm
telling
you
right
now.
We
can't
ask
these
people
to
do
work
for
free.
F
And
I'm
not
asking
them
to
do
work
for
free,
but
I
I
am
asking
for
this.
I
want
a
more
breakdown
budget,
so
I
do
expect
you
to
come
back
with
something
a
little
bit
different
because
I'd
like
a
breakdown
of
the
budget
that
was
already
spent
a
budget
that
will
be
spent
and
just
some
ideas
from
staff
to
give
to
the
pr
firm.
F
I
understand
that
a
pr
firm
needs
to
make
those
I
mean
that's
what
they
do,
but
but
in
in
my
experience
in
education,
if
you
don't
give
people
very
clear
information,
they
can't
pass
it
along
because
we're
then
we're
expecting
the
pr
firm
to
to
learn
about
water
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
have
given
them
that
information.
So
I
do
expect
the
water
department
to
be
able
to
come
to
us
with
an
explanation
that
isn't
going
to
take
an
incredibly
long
time.
F
It's
very
difficult,
and
I
I
don't
envy
you-
and
I
know
you
all-
are
doing
you're
working
really
hard
on
this,
but
and
we're
asking
a
lot.
But
it's
because
this
is
so
complicated
and
so
critical
and
so
expensive.
G
G
It's
just
like
I
when
I
said
it
to
you
guys
it
turned
out
just
like
I
said
I
knew
it
would
and
then
councilwoman
hertek
talks
about.
I
said
that
somebody
who
actually
knows
the
product
knows
what
needs
to
be
done
knows
the
ends
out.
She
said
of
water.
What
we're
looking
for!
You
go
to
some
communities.
They
have
no
idea
about
no
water.
All
I
know
is
just
how
much
cost
my
bill.
Tell
me.
Why
tell
me
why
we
need
this.
G
G
I
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
firm
but
making
sure
you
got
the
right
from
now,
because
apparently
you
didn't
have
the
right
firm,
that
you
say
you
you're
doing
the
work
with
so
I
think
just
going
forward
make
sure
you
got
the
right
person
or
the
right
firm
to
do
the
job.
This
particular
point,
but
really
the
information
that
people
can
be
able
to
read
and
understand
and
know
about
water,
and
we
look
at
the
options.
I
again,
I'm
not
a
big
water
guru
like
some
of
mr
miranda.
G
You
know
mr
carlson's
people,
but
I
do
know
if
there's
a
a
way
that
you
could
just
pump
this
waters,
water
or
the
sewage
or
whatever
to
someplace
else
any
store.
I
don't
know
why,
while
we're
doing
all
these
other
different
options,
when
there
may
be
some
simple
options
that
are
cheaper,
maybe
not
be
cheaper,
but
it
may
be
a
civilization,
less
cost.
So
that's
what
I'm
just
that's
what
I'm
looking
at!
I
Hopefully
make
this
my
final
comments,
I
appreciate
your
discretion.
Thank
you.
We've
approved
two
or
three
times
before
budgets
that
included
public
engagement
and
I'm
you
know
I
used
to
be
in
this
business.
I
gave
it
up
four
years
ago,
I'm
not
in
the
public
engagement
business
anymore,
but
it
doesn't
take
that
much
time
to
write
a
plan
and
with
all
the
two
or
three
million
dollars
we've
spent.
So
far,
we
should
have
had
some
outline
of
public
engagement
plan.
I
mean
it.
I
It
needs
to
be
more
than
seven
meetings
to
start
with
and
we
need
to
fully
engage
the
public
like
there.
But
but
when
you
look
at
the
outline
when
it
includes
things
like
a
branding
manual,
I
mean
first
of
all,
the
name
pure
is
is
is
is
misleading
to
the
public,
but
the
other
thing
is
that
I
would
highly
encourage
you
to
modify
this
this
document
before
you
come
back
because
we've,
given
you
some
feedback,
you
heard
some
feedback
from
the
public
this
morning,
you're
going
to
meet
tomorrow
with
some
stakeholders.
I
Let's
modify
it,
show
us
how
you've
listened
to
the
public.
Let's
start
now,
one
of
the
things
in
the
marketing
of
it
is
it's
been
presented,
as
I
think,
to
the
neighborhood
groups,
the
plan
to
drought-proof
tampa.
That's
not
true
at
all.
That's
not
the
purpose
of
this.
The
real
reason
why
we
need
it
is
because
this
the
state
is
forcing
us
to
do
it.
There's
no
other
justifiable
reason
for
it.
That's
an
aspiration
of
the
of
maybe
your
department
or
the
water
department,
but
that's
not
a
requirement.
I
I
If
you,
google,
it
tampa
bay,
is
unlike
every
other
region
in
the
world,
we're
a
case
study
in
the
world,
because
we
don't
have
the
water
problems
that
other
areas
have
this.
If
it's
put
together,
the
wrong
way
threatens
to
pull
that
apart
and
if
you
look
at
the
needs
of
our
water
supply,
we
don't
need
50
million
gallons
a
day,
we're
not
the
region's
not
going
to
need
it
for
100
years.
We
need
to
be
looking
at
the
real
problems.
I
If
we
can
get
dep
to
provide
an
extension
honestly,
then
we
can
sit
down
and
have
an
honest
discussion.
What
do
we
do
with
this
resource?
It's
the
mayor
says
it's
wasted.
Okay,
you
say
that
it's
got
nutrients,
yes,
but
you
also
said
it's
cleaner
than
the
hillsborough
river.
So,
let's,
let's
find
out
what
the
right
solutions
are
and
let's
be
honest
about
the
marketing,
not
say
things
like:
let's
drop
proof
tampa
or
whatever,
let's,
let's
say,
we've
got
these
resources,
we're
trying
to
work
within
these
constraints,
to
figure
out
what
we're
going
to
do.
I
It's
going
to
be
very
offensive
to
the
public.
It
needs
to
be
honest,
engagement
and
the
last
thing
I'll
say
is
on
the
alternatives.
The
alternatives
are
not
all-inclusive
and
and
they're
they're,
not
right.
There's
no
reason
the
city
of
tampa
should
have
to
spend
two
to
six
billion
dollars
on
this,
and
that's
your
numbers
that
your
consultants
presented
to
us.
I
K
We're
having
those
conversations
right
now,
yep
all
right.
Thank
you
and
the
reason
we
haven't
done.
Any
public
engagement
is
because
the
the
council
asked
us
not
to
do
any
public
engagement
until
we
did
analysis
on
all
the
alternatives.
So
we
didn't
want
to
go
out
and
do
the
public
engagement
on
just
the
select
view.
We
wanted
to
wait
until
we
did
all
of
them.
I
K
I
Conversation
after
february
should
have
been
look.
We
did
the
analysis
and
here
are
five
alternatives.
What
do
you
all
think
about
the
five
alternatives
the
first
I
saw
them
was
when
I
saw
the
document
a
couple
of
few
days
ago,
and-
and
you
know
if
you,
if
you
guys,
keep
blindsiding
us
that
we
will
have
conversations
like
this.
Let's
have
the
discussions
offline
and
try
to
work
collaboratively
to
get
this
done.
Work
with
the
community.
Get
things
done.
Thank
you.
B
All
you
have
to
look
at
about
six
pages
of
what
it
says
and
in
those
six
pages
you
better
hold
on
to
your
straps,
because
you
won't
have
them
pants
on
when
they
finish
with
you
and
that's
the
same
thing:
that's
happening
in
a
different
area
in
a
different
tone.
The
way
they
do
it,
here's
the
contract
2038,
but
they
don't
tell
you
that
in
that
contract,
there's
another
thing
that
says
you
can
never
get
out
unless,
if
they're
dead,
so
guess
what
you're
never
going
to
get
out
if
there's
debt.
B
That's
what
I'm
looking
at
for
somebody
to
have
an
avenue
of
success,
of
talking
about
something
that
happened
30
or
40
years
before
they
got
there.
That's
all
I
try
to
do
and
if
you
ask
me,
do
I
belong
there?
None
of
us
belong
there,
an
elected
official
sitting
down
with
the
pros
that
are
the
ones
that
are
there.
We
need
the
people
from
every
water
district,
their
engineers
and
their
people
who
know
water
and
everything
else
to
sit
on
that
board
so
that
they
can
report
back
to
the
elected
officials.
B
E
N
Good
afternoon
city,
council,
chief
mary
o'connor,
here
to
speak
to
you
today
about
victim
advocacy,
I'm
also
met
here
with
elliot,
patricia
and
jay
from
various
community
programs
that
also
represent
the
support
of
victim
advocacy.
When
I
speak
about
victim
advocacy,
I
don't
only
speak
about
living
victims
that
were
victims
of
crimes.
I
also
speak
about
the
family
members
and
the
parents
and
the
loved
ones
that
are
left
behind,
because
the
advocacy
means
just
as
much
to
the
living
victims
as
it
does
to
these
family
members
here
that
lost
their
children
to
gun
violence.
N
However,
the
process
for
victims
to
get
services
is
complex
and
really
can
use
that
person
to
bridge
that
gap.
There
is
no
a
current
program
at
tpd
that
has
specific
for
victim
advocacy
and
that's
what
we
are
looking
to
implement.
N
The
obvious
implementation
of
the
program
is
built
on
relationships
and
partnerships.
That's
why
I
think
our
our
employee
will
begin
with
leading
the
effort
in
coordinating
services
with
our
victims.
The
victim
advocate
can
work
hand
in
hand
with
our
local
and
federal
partners.
The
state
attorney's
office,
the
u.s
attorney's
office,
part
of
victim
advocacy,
I
think
is
important
to
highlight-
is
the
explanation
of
what's
next
for
victims.
N
The
franciscan
center
locally
here
in
tampa
does
a
good
program
where
they
do
trauma
recovery
for
victims
and
then
also
grief,
counseling
and
other
types
of
services.
So
we
are
in
the
process
of
getting
the
project
up
and
running.
There's
a
tremendous
amount
of
grant
funding
that
is
coming
out
of
washington
for
services.
Such
as
these,
we
recently
applied
for
a
community-based
violence,
intervention
and
prevention,
grant.
It's
a
1.5
million
dollar
grant
only
five
police
departments
in
the
unit.
N
I'm
sorry,
five
cities
in
the
united
states
will
be
granted
the
money
we
will
know
by
by
october
first,
but
some
of
the
money
is
earmarked
for
victim
advocacy
services
and
support
of
groups
like
rise
up
for
peace
and
advocates
for
safer
communities
that
are
joined
here
with
me
today.
N
If,
given
this
grant
money,
the
plan
also
includes
a
very
comprehensive
building
of
a
strategic
plan
that
we
can
follow,
step
by
step
with
our
partners
to
make
sure
that
we
are
actually
achieving
goals
and
leading
towards
the
you
know
the
the
improvement
of
the
violence
in
our
community.
Like
I
said,
there's
a
lot
of
money
coming
out
of
washington
right
now
and
I
think,
with
a
victim
advocate
position,
we
can
have
someone
advocate
if
you
will
to
look
for
that
type
of
funding,
and
you
know
obviously
reach
out
for
it.
N
We
do
have
grant
writers
for
the
city
that
can
help
us
with
that.
Some
of
the
other
things
that
the
victim
advocate
can
do
like
I
was
talking
about
bridging
those
gaps
is
working
with
the
attorney
general's
office,
which
does
have
a
fund
specifically
available
for
compensation
of
victims,
whether
it
be
relocation,
expenses
or
transportation
expenses
or
funeral
expenses.
N
The
second
thing
that's
on
today's
agenda,
for
the
motion
was
a
monument
dedicated
specifically
to
crime
victims,
and
I
brought
the
the
my
friends
here
to
speak
about
the
monument.
I
think
what
we
we
as
a
police
department
would
like
to
do
is
partner
with
our
groups
in
our
communities
that
are
so
dedicated
to
victims
of
violence
to
visualize
and
come
up
with
what
we
think
the
monument
would
look
like
and
then
turn
it
over
to
our
arts
and
cultural
committee
to
work
with
them
to
actually
build
the
monument.
C
Council,
I
mean
councilman
vieira.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
that
presentation
and
for
all
the
work
gone
into
this
and
and
whatnot.
I
see
a
lot
of
my
friends
and
our
friends
behind
you
there.
I,
I
think
you
chief
for
your
excellent
emphasis
on
on
victims
of
crime.
It's
one
of
the
main
issues
of
our
time.
Is
we
read
about
escalating
crime
in
a
lot
of
our
communities?
C
All
those
crimes
leave
behind
a
victim
which
is,
I
know,
the
cause
of
your
life,
the
cause
of
the
life
of
people
in
law
enforcement
and
and
it's
become
through
tragedy,
the
cause
of
the
life
of
the
people
who
are
standing
behind
you
through
personal
involvement.
You
know,
as
elected
officials,
victims
of
crime
have
got
to
be
on
our
mind,
always
and
they've
got
to
be
part
of
our
conversation,
and
I
know
for
this
council.
C
That's
something
that
we're
doing,
but
it's
got
to
be
true
in
all
of
our
municipalities
and
all
of
our
cities.
All
too
often
people
in
our
positions,
I
I
think,
don't
often
talk
about
victims
of
crime.
The
way
that
we
should
we,
we
miss
that
issue.
We
miss
that
issue
and,
like
I've
said
before
how
you
deal
with
a
victim
of
crime,
how
you
deal
with
somebody
who
has
been
battered
or
somebody
whose
son
or
daughter's
been
taken
from
the
murdered,
etc.
C
C
So
what
I'm
looking
for,
and
I
and
you're
on
this
chief-
and
I
thank
you
for
this-
it's
really
twofold,
which
is
number
one,
some
sort
of
like
you
said
a
memorial
and
I'm
100
supportive
of
what
you're
doing
with
that
I'd.
Love
to
see
that
then
number
two
is
some
sort
of
the
formal
victims
of
crime
program,
which
would
be
multifaceted,
which
is
number
one.
Like
you
said
talking
about
the
monetary
support.
C
Like
mr
johnson
always
says,
he
says
that
when
you
know
a
loved
one
of
your
family
dies
or
leaves
you,
the
rent
is
still
due
and
and
also
I'd
like
to
see
something,
maybe
in
working
with
our
the
franciscan
center
or
some
group
like
that
for
mental
health
counseling
for
victims
of
crime.
So
I
thank
you
and
all
the
people
standing
behind
you
for
all
your
hard
work
and
for
your
life's
passion
on
this
issue,
and
I
thank
council
for
supporting
this
I'll
be
making
the
motion
at
the
end.
B
Comments
governor
miranda,
I
want
to
thank
the
chief
and
all
of
those
around
her
to
the
program
and
when,
when
you
listen
and
hear
things
on
television,
you
see
a
closure,
there
really
is
never
closure,
there's
a
feeling
that
you're
bringing
something
but
closure
doesn't
sit
there,
and
I
can
only
speak
many
years
ago
I
had
an
uncle
that
went
to
deliver
something
in
the
post
office
at
night.
B
He
was
shot
in
the
back
and
killed
and
that
same
night,
the
same
guy
who
shot
him
was
killed
in
another
bar
walking
in
they
just
cut
him
in
half
with
a
shotgun.
So
do
I
understand
it
all?
No,
and
I'm
I
don't
know
what
words
available
for
yourselves
and
for
others
like
you
who
have
gone
through
this
tragedy.
B
It's
never
closure
it's
day
in
and
day
out,
you
think
of
what,
if,
how
come,
why
me
all
those
things
come
to
mind
and
doing
the
life
span
you
you
must
think
of
that
10
million
times,
and
all
of
us
would
do
the
same
thing
you're
doing
so.
Thank
you
for
holding
up.
I
think
I've
seen
one
or
two
of
you
on
television
and
you
look
better
in
person.
I
Thank
you
chief.
I
know
that
from
the
first
presentation
you
gave,
you
said
your
one
of
your
goals
is
to
reduce
the
violent
crime
rate,
and
so
I
know
you're
working
hard
to
do
it
and
please
let
us
know
what
we
need
to
do
to
try
to
resolve
that.
I
think
this
morning's
move.
Approval
of
the
contracts
was
one
thing
to
make
sure
we
have
the
best
people
out
to
continue
do
that
to
the
family
members.
I
Here,
we've
heard
some
or
all
of
your
stories
before
and
you
know
as
a
father,
it
breaks
my
heart
to
hear
your
stories
and
I
just
want
to
give
you
my
personal
commitment.
If
there's
something
you
think,
I
should
be
doing
to
help
you.
Please
call
me.
I've
talked
to
some
of
you
before,
but
call
me
if
you
want
to.
A
I
I
cannot
understand
the
magnitude
of
your
suffering.
You
know
when
we
say
there
are
no
words.
We
just
don't
know
what
you've
gone
through
and
so
many
other
people
and
no
one
else
should
have
to
go
through
this.
So
I
hope
that
we
continue
all
working
together
where
we're
here
to
support
you
and
everyone
else,
that's
not
here,
and
then
we
can
make
this
community
a
safer
place,
but
also
know
that
we
have
your
back
and
and
that
you're
not
alone,
and
that
the
city
and
and
others
are
here
for
you.
E
E
C
Mr
care,
let
me
just
just
a
I
guess,
a
sense
of
counsel.
I
mean
there
there's
just
to
have
it
returned
back
to
us
in
the
budget
for
the
monetary
support
program
that
I
that
I
mentioned
before,
for
victims
of
crime
and
then
for
a
mental
health
program
to
be
work
with
either
the
franciscan
center
or
an
institution
like
that
to
be
placed
in
the
budget
to
the
extent
that
it
needs
to
be
this
year
and
and
heck.
C
Let's
have
it
come
back
to
us
for
review
in
december.
E
O
The
record,
my
name
is
brenda
mckenzie
and
I'm
the
director
of
workforce
partnerships
here
at
the
city
and
apprenticeships
are
just
a
proven
way
of
a
path
forward.
It's
a
proven
path
forward
and
it's
honestly
been
an
honor
to
serve
as
part
of
the
implementation
team.
For
this
ordinance,
the
ordinance
encourages
participation
in
state
registered
programs
and
the
benefit
of
state
registered
programs
are
two-fold
one.
It
ensures
that
we
have
the
talent
that
we
need,
that
it's
trained
and
ready
to
go
and
two.
It
also
provides
economic
mobility
for
that
individual,
which
is
key.
O
The
state
of
florida
vets,
the
programs
to
make
sure
that
they
meet
industry
standards
and
that
the
individuals
are
ready
to
go
forward
day.
One
implementing
the
ordinance.
Our
team
has
been
working
closely
with
the
department
of
education
and
their
director
kathleen
wheeler,
as
well
as
the
regional
coordinators.
O
The
state
has
been
helpful
in
sharing
information
on
existing
programs
that
are
here
and
also
offering
to
help
individual
companies
that
want
to
develop
their
own
apprenticeship
programs
to
fit
their
special
needs.
The
city
has
made
these
programs
available
to
the
public,
both
for
individ
individuals.
Looking
to
participate
in
apprenticeship
programs
and
also
the
companies
wanting
to
know
what
apprenticeship
programs
are
actually
out
there
and
those
are
available
on
the
tampa
works
tpa
wrx
website
the
city
center
at
hannah
is
the
first
project
to
fall
under
this
ordinance
per
the
ordinance.
O
We
anticipate
that
we
should
have
these
resolved
within
the
next
week
to
10
days,
and
I'm
happy
to
say
that
next
week,
before
you
for
consideration
will
be
a
recommendation
for
an
owner's
rep
for
this
project.
That
owner's
rep
will
include
both
construction
management,
review
of
the
ebo
and
the
apprenticeship
ordinance
compliance
as
well.
O
The
administration
continues
to
develop
opportunities
to
raise
awareness
through
fairs
focus
groups
working
with
existing
organizations
to
make
sure
that
individuals
know
the
benefits
of
participating
in
these
programs
with
me
today
is
brandon
falcini,
who
is
with
dpr
construction.
In
case
you
have
specific
questions
on
their
efforts
with
apprenticeships.
E
A
Hi,
I'm
brandon
fassini
with
dpr
construction
and
I
represent
the
general
contractor
and
I'm.
D
Here
to
represent
our
client,
which
is
the
city
of
tampa
and
brenda
mckenzie,
and
if
you
have
any
questions
regarding
the
apprenticeship,
I
would
gladly
give
you
the
information
that
we
have
available
at
the
time.
C
Sir,
I
mean
I,
I
have
no
questions.
I
I
you
know
made
this
motion.
I
recall
just
to
highlight
what
this
apprenticeship
ordinance
is
going
to
be
doing
in
this
project.
This
large
project
is
really
the
first
demonstration
of
this
apprenticeship,
ordinance,
which
I
know
we're
all
very
very
proud
of.
C
It
does
a
lot
to
for
to
produce
a
pathway
to
the
middle
class
for
a
lot
of
our
young
people
here
in
the
city
of
tampa,
and
this
is
certainly
going
to
be
one
of
them
but
as
as
was
indicated
before,
all
apprenticeships
and
all
programs
that
participate
in
this
program
have
got
to
be
state
certified
apprenticeship
programs,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
the
best
quality
that
it's
sanctioned
and
approved
by
the
state
of
florida,
and
that
is
apparently
what
what
is
happening
here
according
to
what
I'm
I'm
hearing.
C
So
no
just
that's
it
at
this
time.
Thank
you,
sir.
F
When
making
an
apprenticeship
program,
what
what
types
of
things
are
required
of
an
apprenticeship
program,
can
anyone
just
kind
of
slap
one
together
or
are
there
right?
No,
I'm
just
asking.
Are
there
regulations?
Are
there
certain
requirements.
O
Yeah,
that's
why
it's
really
important
that
the
council
chose
state
approved
programs
as
that
they
follow
dol
the
federal
standards
in
terms
of
each
each
individual
curriculum,
and
it
really
is
rigorous.
It's
not
like
a
three-month
program
and
you're
out.
These
are
two
three-year
programs,
successive
programs,
that,
at
the
end
of
the
program,
the
individual
will
have
on-the-job
training,
which
is
so
important
as
well
as
classroom
hours,
which
a
lot
of
times.
O
People
don't
realize
that
there's
a
classroom
component
to
this,
so
that
when
they're
finished,
they're
able
to
work
on
any
construction
site
they're
certified
people
can
trust
that
the
training
is
sound
and
they're
really
ready
to
move
forward.
It's
truly
a
pathway
to
the
middle
class
that
doesn't
require
college.
F
So
then,
I
guess
my
question
for
the
contractor
is
so
if
it
takes
two
to
three
years,
so
you
guarantee
employment
for
the
apprentice
for
two
to
three
years.
D
I
wouldn't
say
we
necessarily
guarantee
employment,
but
the
program
is
established
to
be
a
two
to
three
year
program
and
that's
obviously
based
off
the
performance
of
the
employee.
We
hire
on
that
particular
person
in
some
cases
like
for
our
particular
apprenticeship
program.
D
We
have
employees
that
have
already
worked
for
us
for
a
couple
years,
so
it
is
the
intent
that
they
stay
on
for
two
to
three
years
and
complete
that
program,
but
in
theory
that
necessarily
might
not
work
out
every
time.
But
it's
our
goal
to
support
and
uplift
that
employee
to
complete
a
two
to
three
year.
A
F
And
what
are
the
average
wages
that
you
give
to
these
apprentices.
D
The
wages
depend,
I
know,
that's
not
a
great
answer,
but
like
just
industry
standard,
a
lot
of
the
apprentices
are
entry
level
right.
So
that's
in
the
construction
industry
probably
well
and
be
beyond
the
minimum
wage.
Just
given
the
supply
and
demand.
That's
that's
in
the
industry
right
now,
but
that
that
really
depends
on
what
tray
they
are,
if
they're
a
carpenter,
if
they're
a
pipe
fitter
if
they're
a
steel
worker,
so
it
does
vary.
F
F
I
want
to
know
how
many
people
are
in
each
program,
and
I
really
want
to
know
how
how
long
those
people
have
been
in
the
program
working
for
that
particular
contractor,
and
I'm
still
a
little
confused
about
what
happens
this
we're
talking
specifically
about
the
hannah
project.
So
what
happens
after
a
year
if
the
hannah
project
is
done?
How
do
those
people
get
then
the
rest
of
their
education?
So.
O
That's
why
it's
important
when
we're
using
that
list
for
the
state
approved
programs,
it's
usually
an
entity
that
can
provide
connections
for
it,
they're
a
provider
of
labor
and
they're,
going
to
train
that
labor
to
do
that
work.
So
in
this
case,
dpr
is
self-performing
for
some
of
their.
So
they
are
saying
I'm
connecting
with
this
individual
we're
hiring
this
individual
they're
going
to
have
an
opportunity
to
earn
and
learn
over
this
period
and
continue
with
us.
So
ideally
when
they
finish
the
hannah
job,
they'll
go
on
to
the
next
project.
F
E
I
Just
a
question
for
each
of
you:
maybe
the
way
the
ordnance
is
written,
it's
state
approved
apprenticeship
programs
and
some
of
them
are
run
by
unions
or
involve
companies
that
are
connected
to
unions,
and
some
of
them
are
non-union
companies
that
have
certification.
I
So
a
question
we
often
get
is:
can
we
provide
preference
to
one
or
the
other?
I
think
I
know
the
answer
to
that,
but
but
maybe
each
of
you
could
simply
answer
like
how
would
you
make
a
decision
between
a
union
subcontractor
and
a
non-union
subcontractor?
Are
there
any
pros
and
cons
of
the
apprenticeship
programs.
O
As
it
relates
to
the
apprentice
ordinance
we're
agnostic,
we
are
looking
for
people
or
organizations
to
invest
in
individuals
and
do
the
full
length
of
the
program
so
that
when
that
individual
leaves
they
really
do
have
a
trajectory
a
career
trajectory
that's
going
to
lead
them
to
the
next
step,
so,
whether
it's
union
or
non-union
there
are
viable
programs
that
cover
both
and
we're
just
based
on
the
ordinance.
The
contractor
must
use
those.
D
Any
I
would
echo
the
same,
I
mean
we
don't
have
a
preference
one
way
or
the
other,
but
the
unions
do
have
programs
that
have
been
around
for
a
while,
so
it's
very
easily
accessible
to
tap
into
like
certified
and
tried
and
true
apprenticeship
programs,
which
is
definitely
a
plus
some
of
the
non-union
shops.
This
is
newer
for
them
and
they
have
apprenticeship
programs
and
some
of
them
aren't
state
approved,
and
there
are
a
few
that
actually
have
state
approved.
So
is
that
a
plus
in
complying
with
the
apprenticeship
ordinance?
A
C
Yes,
sir,
no
nothing
I
I
did
want
to
say,
though,
that
you
know
that
was
one
of
the
major
points
when
I
was
working
with
the
contractors
and
the
labor
organizations,
and
and
and
and
talking
about
this
and
before
our
good
friends,
our
city,
legal,
andreas
zellman,
who
did
such
a
great
job
and
others
in
writing.
This
ordinance
was
to
make
sure
that
this
applies
to
state
certified.
Only
if,
if
my
memory
served
me
right,
st
petersburg
did
not
mandate
state
certified
that,
so
that
was
a
big
concern
with
ours.
C
H
Yes,
good
afternoon,
council
say
wayne
administrative,
neighborhood
and
community
affairs.
I
submitted
a
memo
regarding
the
littering
fines.
The
request
was
to
investigate,
raising
the
fines
to
five
hundred
dollars
to
find
out
to
a
500
violation,
and
I
would
like
to
know
if
you
have
any
questions.
A
Looked
it
over,
I
spoke
with
one
of
the
attorneys
and
the
number
450
was
what
I
saw
and
was
prominent.
You
know
we
have
several
people
that
come
out
on
a
regular
basis,
just
the
council,
but
then
I
have
so
many
that
contact
my
office.
I've
gone
on
the
river
with
others,
I've
seen
firsthand.
You
know
the
litter
that
we
have
throughout
the
city.
West,
tampa
east
tampa
south
tampa.
You
know
people
are
very
reckless
and
how
they
just
throw
stuff
out
the
window
or
just
drop
it
wherever
they
see
fit.
A
But
I
I
don't
think
that
the
general
public
and
the
offenders
or
the
people
that
that
have
no
regard
for
putting
the
trash
in
in
the
proper
place.
They
don't
think
that
we
have
any
kind
of
enforcement.
You
know
they
figure.
You
know,
police
only
give
out
speeding
tickets,
they
don't
give
out
littering
tickets
or
code
enforcement.
Just
you
know
it's
not
in
their
purview
and
not
part
of
their
job.
A
To
do
this,
but
from
what
I
see
on
the
books
and
reading
your
memo,
450-
and
I
know
there
could
be
a
misconception
of
we're
targeting
a
certain
demographic
or
a
group,
but
we
can
say
that
for
speeding,
tickets
or
red
light
tickets
or
whatever
it
is,
we
have
those
types
of
enforcement
for
those
other
avenues
and
litter
is
a
problem
has
been
a
problem
for
a
long
time.
We
see
what
goes
into
our
storm
water
system
gets
thrown
out
into
the
river.
A
A
I
want,
and
I
know
the
the
administration
the
mayor
has
wanted
to
be
tough
on
littering.
We
did
christen
the
the
littering
boat
most
recently,
which
was
a
worthy
investment,
and
we
see
the
the
positive
response
and
and
work
that
that
boat
has.
You
know
in
the.
K
A
Up,
I
think
this
would
just
piggyback
and
and
strengthen
more
the
the
mayor's
vision,
and
I
think
perhaps
what
council
would
like
to
do
and
send
the
message
that
we're
tough
on
trash,
tough
on
littering.
We
talk
about.
Obviously,
we
talk
about
water
a
lot,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
our
waterways
are
clean.
Our
storm
drains
are
clean,
our
streets
are
clean,
it's
just
it's
a
bad,
it's
a
bad
look.
A
So
what
I?
What
I'd
like
to
do
is,
if
I
have
to
make
a
motion,
is
that
we
set
first
offense
littering
fines
at
450
in
order
to
send
a
a
strong
message
to
the
community
that
you
know
we
take
this
very,
very
seriously.
A
A
Is
the
kind
of
message
that
we
need
to
send
that
we
take
this
seriously?
I've
requested
more
signs
for
visibility.
I
know
there's
budget
constraints
for
that
and
whatnot,
but
at
least
if
we
can
use
what's
already
on
the
books
at
450
dollars
and
if
we
have
to
shift
it
over
or
apply
that
to
code
enforcement
and
police
officers
where
they
have
it's
within
their
jurisdiction,
it's
up
to
the
discretion
of
the
officer.
If
they
do
want
to
just
issue
a
warning
or
say
hey,
you
know
give
the
ticket
flat
out.
A
If
it's
something
egregious
you
know
not,
somebody
throws
a
napkin
out
the
window,
don't
hit
him
for
450
bucks,
but
if
somebody
is
seen
witness
by
code
enforcement
or
police
dumping,
whatever
something
significant
out
the
window
that
they
should,
you
know
be
hit
with,
with
this
type
of
fine
being
that
the
450
was
already
there
in
the
code.
Yes,
ma'am.
D
Hi
councilman
simone
savino
assistant.
K
City
attorney,
I
just
am
standing
up
to.
D
L
A
So
there's
really
no
need
for
a
motion.
It
would
just
be
a
motion
to
suggest
that
police
and
code
enforcement
better,
monitor
or
not
monitor,
but
if
they
witness
people,
you
know
causing
these
offenses
that
they
know
that
it's
within
their
jurisdiction
and
their
discretion
that
they
can
issue
a
450
ticket.
Yes,
sir,
so
that's
really
it
it's
on
the
books
and
there's
no
need
for
you
know
anything
further
legally,
because
that's
it
so,
chief
bennett.
What
do
you
think?
A
M
Understood
john
bennett,
chief
of
staff,
sort
of
supply,
a
comment
that
I
know
councilman
goods
and
I
are
very
familiar
with
it's
called
the
legal
bulletin
and-
and
I
see
megan
in
place
and
I'm
sure
her
wheels
are
turning
on
this
a
lot
of
times.
We
prompt
the
officers,
whether
it
be
code
and
translated
to
law
enforcement,
to
use
those
legal
bulletins
as
a
call
to
action.
M
So
I'm
I'm
certain
that
chief
o'connor
and
megan's
office
at
pd
will
put
it
out,
put
the
training
out
and
make
sure
that's
the
top
of
the
list,
because
I
we
know
about
the
priorities
coming
through
council
and
the
mayors
also
want
this
as
a
priority.
So
I
think
it's
on
the
books.
We
just
didn't
make
it
more
actionable.
A
G
You
have
littering
and
you
have
illegal
dumping,
it's
two
different
things
littering
and
they
go
dumping.
Illegal
dumping,
that's
criminal
and
that
comes
with
arrest
and
after
your
fines,
littering's
a
little
bit
different
and
I'm
gonna
tell
you
being
the
former
police
or
a
retired
police
officer
having
police
officers
to
start
giving
tickets
to
littering.
G
I
wouldn't
want
that.
I
I
wouldn't
want
that
to
be
a
problem.
I
can
see
a
warning,
but
out
there
just
issuing
tickets.
I
I
know
how
cops
are,
and
sometimes
you
have
some
supervisors
just
saying:
well,
I'm
not
getting
tickets
there.
I
don't
want
to
start
something,
so
I
will
be
careful
about
just
saying:
go
out
and
start
issuing
tickets.
I
mean
you
could
look
at
warnings,
but
you
know
I
know
how
communities
are.
I
think
you
know
with
anything
when
you
talk
about
littering.
G
You
know:
I've
been
in
a
police
car
and
I've
seen
people
throw
something
about
the
car.
You
know
I
I
pull
them
over
hey.
You
know,
you
know
you're
not
going
to
throw
that
in
your
community.
Why
put
it
over
here
and
people
pretty
get
just
the
midst
of
it?
You
know
it
may
not
be
a
warning
ticket
given
you
know,
but
it's
kind
of
like
a
discretion
everything
you
know
I
mean
when
you
talk
about
illegal
dumping.
It's
a
little
different.
G
I
might
dump
on
a
bunch
of
trash
in
your
alleyways,
and
you
know
you
should
be
taking
it
to
the
dump,
because
literally
somebody
else
who
you
did
that
job
for
already
paid
you
for
that,
and
you
you
charged
me
for
that.
But
now
they
take
that
extra
cash
dumping
into
the
alleyway
or
behind
some
old
churches
and
things
like
that.
G
It's
what
happened
so,
I'm
all
for
making
sure
we've
got
a
plan
in
place,
but
I
just
think
that
it's
got
to
be
a
warning
level
system
and
not
just
aggressively
saying
we're
going
to
just
go
out
there
and
start
doing
a
lot
of
warnings,
especially
with
the
police
they
could
they
could
it
could
that
could
turn
bad.
I
think
my
just
my
opinion
but
I'll
support
you,
but
I
just
think
that
could
turn
backward.
I
Wonder
first
of
all,
littering
is,
is
bad
and
the
cities
that
monitor
and
keep
littering
from
happening,
I
think,
are
some
of
the
best
run
cities,
but
I
want
to
ask
specifically:
is
there?
Is
there
any
special
find
for
throwing
lit
cigarettes
out
the
door
one?
A
few
years
ago
I
was
at
a
stoplight,
and
I
saw
prius
in
front
of
me.
I
Presumably
somebody
who
cared
about
the
environment
roll
the
window
down,
throw
a
little
cigarette
out
that
window,
and
especially
during
droughts.
You
have
all
this
dry
stuff
out
there,
and
then
you
throw
a
lit
cigarette
out.
It
seems
like
there
should
be
higher
fines
for
that
because
of
the
public
hazard
of
it.
K
F
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
we
could
come
back
in
two
months
with
some
data
saying
hey,
we
pulled
this
many
people
over
and
warned
them
about
it,
because
and
and
in
conjunction
with
that,
you
need
a
public
relations
campaign,
because
if
you
start
handing
people
tickets
they're
going
to
be
really
angry
because
there
were,
there
was
no,
I
mean
while
it
may
be
on
the
books.
It's
something
that
we
haven't
focused
on.
It's
something
that's
a
huge
problem
in
the
city
of
tampa.
F
We
we
need
to
couple
this
with
with
education
and
focus
if
we
don't
couple
it
with
education.
There
you're
just
gonna,
have
a
bunch
of
really
angry
people
who
are
then
going
to
litter
out
of
spite
just
so
I
I
would
really
love
to
see
a
more
stair
step
pattern
here
with,
let's
start
with
some
warnings
and
let's
start
with
some
more
signage,
let's
start
with
a
pr
campaign
that
gets
people
out,
maybe
encouraging
trash
pick
up
among
the
community,
but
but
but
definitely
something
a
little
bit
better.
We
talk
about
pr.
F
This
is
where
you
know,
using
cities
pr
or
hiring
a
pr
firm
that
has
specialized
in
in
this.
That's
something
that
I
could
wholeheartedly
support,
but
we
we
need
to
definitely
stare
step
it
up.
Yes,.
H
Ma'am,
so
when
we
do
implement
a
new
program
such
as
this,
we
go
through
education
and
awareness
time
period.
For
that,
then
we
go
into
the
warnings
and
then
we
go
into
the
actual
enforcement
piece.
We
don't
just
start
just
heavy-handed
with
writing
a
citation.
So
yes.
H
H
H
H
Putting
it
together
was
one
thing,
but
putting
it
together,
just
getting
stabbed
to
put
it
together.
However,
when
we
did
the
warnings
we,
the
education
was
probably
about
two
weeks
and
then
the
warnings
was
about
a
two-week
process
as
well
before
we
started
writing
the
tickets.
F
H
We
can
probably
have
the
planning
done
in
a
matter
of
two
weeks:
okay,
yeah.
Well
then,
if
so,
if
I
can
come
back,
maybe
give
us
some
time,
maybe
six
weeks
or
so
to
come
back
to
from
planning
to
implementation,
warning
and
all
of
that
six
about
two
months.
That'll
give
us
enough
time
to
collect
some.
Some
substantial
data.
F
Councilman
maniscalco:
is
it
okay?
If
I
make
that
motion,
or
would
you
like
to
make
that
motion
since.
F
Yeah,
I
would,
I
would
really
love
for
you
to
come
back
september,
15th
with
a
plan
so
that
we
really
can
get
get
going
on
the
trash
problem.
Yes,
yes,.
H
F
No
thank
you.
I
know
I
appreciate
it,
I'm
still
learning
so
I
always
appreciate
constructive
feedback.
So
we
want
to
make
a
littering
to
create
a
littering
program
to
stop
people
anti-I'm,
sorry,
anti-littering,
p
program
to
to
help
keep
the
city
cleaner
and.
F
Yeah
to
basically
just
to
come
forward
to
us
with
a
plan
for
how
we
can
start
implementing
this
and
encouraging
the
city
to
be
a
cleaner
place.
A
M
I
will
say
that
in
in
some
of
our
staff
meetings,
the
mayor
made
it
crystal
clear
education,
first
warning
second
citations
as
necessary,
and
I
will
say
that
over
the
years
I
tried
to
do
this
back
in
in
the
mid
2000s
like
2008
and
the
systems.
The
platforms
didn't
handle
it,
but
now
we
have
a
robust
warning
tracking
system.
So
I
feel
like
the
the
legal
bulletin,
that
tpd
will
work
with
city
legal
to
get
out
we'll
have
that
call
to
action
in
that
order.
M
Education
warning
and
I
agree
with
councilman
goodes
that
you
know
we
want
to
change
behavior
in
the
easiest
way
possible
for
the
community.
It
starts
with
education
and
I'm
sure
we'll
get
out
some
vignettes
and
videos,
and
and
actually
do
some
mimic
scenarios
for
the
public
to
see
that
this
isn't
acceptable.
First,
those
two
things
can
run
concurrently
the
warning
process
and
the
education
process.
M
So
but
I
agree
with
miss
wynn,
we
should
be
able
to
do
that
pretty
quick
and
then
be
able
to
bring
some
stats
back
and
some
of
the
programmatic
pieces
by
september,
and
then
we've
asked
to
probably
have
two
different
public
safety
workshop
placements,
one
in
may,
and
one
maybe
in
november,
and
use
those
to
sync
up.
Some
of
the
initiatives
councils
asked
for
in
a
public
safety
space,
and
this
would
be
one
of
those
all
right.
G
G
You
know
throughout
certain
areas
or
some
of
these
stores
having
trash
cans
and
things
like
that,
and
I
say
that
because
former
rc
school
board
member
schamberger
had
called
me
earlier,
it
was
coming
up
and
she
said
because
you
know
she
dealt
with
schools.
Kids
are
walking,
that's
where
a
lot
of
you
live
coming
from
so
just
food
for
thought
for
administration.
Maybe
you
look
at
something
with
trash
cans
and
areas
and
especially
high
areas
that
you
see
a
lot
of
trash.
E
E
E
Without
a
garbage
can
so
we
can
help.
I
also
have
other
questions
I
play.
I
play
devil's
advocate
with
myself
all
the
time
who
enforces
these
violations.
What
happens
when
somebody
doesn't
pay
these
violations?
Much
like
traffic
tickets.
Now
we're
seeing
that
if
somebody
doesn't
pay
their
traffic
ticket
their
license
gets
suspended,
they
can't
get
to
work.
How
are
they
going
to
pay
for
the
traffic?
D
D
E
I
Can
I
just
set
this
up
like
yes
absolutely
just.
I
just
wanted
to
say
there's
a
lot
that
we
could
say
on
this
topic
and
we'll
talk
about
what
the
topic
is
in
a
second
a
lot.
I
We
can
say
on
this
topic:
we've
all
been
briefed
by
the
police
department
and
they've
advised
us
to
narrow
the
conversation,
for
the
sake
of
you
know,
protection
of
the
jewish
community,
and
so
the
police
department
will
say
what
they
can
and
then,
if
anybody
would
like
to
have
a
longer
discussion
outside
of
this,
please
call
us
thanks.
E
C
Councilman
vieira-
I
I
also
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
mr
joe
provasco
was
here
to
speak
on.
D
A
A
I
heard
from
people
friends
of
mine
in
europe
over
the
weekend
of
what's
going
on
in
tampa
and
and
that's
how
I
you
know
heard
of
more
recent
things.
So
it's
something
that
I
take
very
personally,
because
the
people
that
I
love
and
care
the
most
are
jewish
and
I
want
them
to
live
in
a
safe
city.
I
want
them
to
feel
safe.
My
my
now
family
because
I
recently
got
married
and
I
take
this
very
very
seriously.
I
know
that
the
jewish
community
is
very
strong.
A
Historically,
the
foundation
of
this
community
is
built
with
the
help
of
so
many
people
and
many
in
the
jewish
community.
So
whatever
tpd
is
doing
whatever
way
we
can
assist.
I
know
we
have
to
you
know,
limit
our
comments
and
whatnot.
We
can
speak
offline,
but
I
appreciate
you
coming
out
and
I
appreciate
councilman
carlson's
motion
to
bring
this
up.
Thank
you
any
comments.
G
Know
we,
I
received
a
lot
of
calls
on
this
and,
of
course
we
want
to
make
sure
that
people
are
attacked,
make
sure
that
people
feel
safe
coming
to
tampa
and
we
have
a
lot
of
venues
making
sure
people
that
want
to
patronize
those
venues
are
safe.
So
I
don't
know
what
the
police
department
is
doing
or
what
are
the
rules
in
reference
to
this
type
of
behavior
on
some
city
properties,
and
things
like
that.
So
if
you
can
maybe
give
the
community
a
viewers
a
breath
so
they'll
know
and
wonder.
G
D
Yes,
sir
councilman,
first
and
foremost,
thank
you
for
your
time
and
the
police
department
is
doing
everything
that
it
can
to
address
anti-semitic
attacks
here
in
the
city
of
tampa
and
part
of
that
is
being
in
communication
with
other
law
enforcement
agencies
throughout
our
region
and
throughout
the
country,
as
well
as
organizations
such
as
the
anti-defamation
league
and
even
our
local
synagogues
temples
in
the
jcc.
D
So
we
are
in
constant
communication
and
we
are
monitoring
any
type
of
any
of
this
type
of
activity
to
keep
track
of
it
and
then
also
if
there
is
any
criminal
behavior
associated
with
it,
obviously
to
investigate
those
crimes.
Speaking
to
your
specific
question,
councilman,
you
know.
As
we
all
know,
the
first
amendment
protects
all
types
of
political
speech
and
the
courts
have
held
that
even
anti-semitic,
specifically
the
wearing
of
anti-semitic,
clothing
uniforms.
The
swastika
is
protected
speech
under
the
first
amendment,
so
we
as
a
government.
D
We
as
a
police
department,
cannot
limit
people's
speech
based
upon
the
content
of
this
of
their
speech
as
offensive
and
disgusting,
as
the
speech
may
be.
That
really
is
a
bedrock
of
the
first
amendment,
and
it
really
is
a
basic
tenet
that
all
of
us
in
the
city
have
to
enforce,
and
certainly
on
public
property.
D
The
right
to
free
speech
cannot
really
be
limited
in
any
type
of
way.
That's
different
on
private
property.
It's
also
different,
as
I'm
sure
you
all
are
aware
in
different
types
of
public
forums,
public
governmental
property,
but
sidewalks
parks
and
the
streets
are
what
are
known
as
traditional
public
forums
and
any
type
of
protected.
First,
amendment
speech
cannot
be
limited
really
in
any
manner
in
those
particular
arenas.
G
Well,
thank
you
for
that.
We
had
a
lot
of
calls
of.
What
can
we
do
what
we
can't
do,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
since
we
have
illegal
for
the
police
department
here,
so
the
public
know
what
what
the
city's
obligation
is
and
what
so
we're
not
in
violation
of
somebody's
rights,
even
though
we
don't
want
that
type
of
behavior
on
our
properties.
You
know.
D
Understood
and
really
what
the
courts
have
said
is
that
the
remedy
for
hateful
speech
or
speech
that
is
against
one's
values
would
be
speech
against
it.
So
more
speech.
So
really
what
we
can
do
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
allow
anyone
and
everyone
who
wishes
to
express
their
first
amendment
rights
a
safe
place
to
do
so
and
then,
hopefully
that
will
allow
you
know
everyone
to
express
their
rights
and
then
us
as
a
democracy
to
continue.
But
that's
the
bedrock
really
of
the
first
amendment.
E
I
Yeah
just
said
in
my
comments,
I
want
to
say
I'm
100
behind
the
jewish
community.
This
council
is
100
behind
the
jewish
community,
the
cities
100
behind
the
jewish
community
and
we
won't
tolerate
any
kind
of
threats
in
in
our
community.
I
I
was
just
in
europe
a
bit
in
the
last
couple
months
and
I
went
to
synagogues
that
formerly
had
large
congregations
and
there's
almost
nobody
living
in
those
cities
anymore.
I
We
we
need
to
protect
everybody
and
we
value
you
know
our
jewish
community.
It's
a
very
strong
community
here.
You
know
there
are
brothers
sisters,
relatives,
friends,
I
grew
up
christian.
I
My
son
is
christian
and
the
the
jcc
allowed
my
my
son
to
go
to
jcc
growing
up,
so
he
learned
the
dreidel
song
before
he
learned
some
of
the
christmas
songs,
and
you
know
these
are
the
kinds
of
things
we
need
to
do
to
try
to
understand
each
other
and
if,
if
people
hear
of
threats
or
acts
of
violence,
please
call
us
call
the
police
call
911
first,
but
or
call
the
non-emergency
hotline,
but
call
us
if
those
things
happen,
but
I
would
say
not
to
put
words
in
your
mouth
but
for
the
same
reason
that
we
nowadays
ask
media
not
to
mention
the
names
of
criminals
because
they
seek
publicity.
I
We
may
not
want
to
give
a
free
platform
to
people
who
want
to
spread
hate
and
threats,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
we
we
that
we
tell
the
jewish
community
that
we
support
and
and
council
member
vieira
has
a
resolution
that
he's
going
to
propose
in
a
minute
also.
But
please
talk
to
us,
you
know
we're
your
neighbors,
we're
your
friends
talk
to
us,
we
won't.
None
of
us
will
tolerate
this.
We
also
don't
want
to
provide
a
free
platform
to
anybody.
Thank
you.
E
E
K
But
but
it
sounds
just
based
on
the
comments.
I'm
hearing
we're
all
on
the
collective
same
page,
so
that's
always
a
positive
way
to
start
a
conversation
but
good
afternoon.
Everyone,
members
of
city
council,
my
name
is
joe
probasco
and
I'm
the
immediate
past,
president
of
the
tampa
jewish
community,
centers
and
federation.
K
K
We
sincerely
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
address
city
council
today
to
express
our
personal
support
and
the
support
of
the
tampa
jewish
community,
centers
and
federation
for
councilman
louis
fiera's
resolution
condemning
anti-semitism
and
while
I've
shared
my
official
titles,
I
feel
it's
also
important
to
share
that.
My
wife,
ellie
anne
and
I
have
called
city
the
city
of
tampa
our
home
for
over
20
years
and
chosen
tampa
is
the
place
to
raise
our
three,
usually
wonderful
children.
K
Our
children
are
being
educated
in
the
public
schools
of
our
city
and
we've
been
members
of
congregation.
Charts
attic
for
those
same
20
years
simply
put
tampa
is
our
home.
I
share
this
because
today,
when
we
speak
about
the
jewish
community,
we
speak
of
the
tampa
community.
The
two
are
simply
inseparable.
K
Our
jewish
communities
called
tampa
home
for
the
better
part
of
the
last
150
years
and
for
those
that
share
an
interest
in
tampa
history,
our
city
proudly
elected
hermann,
glogowski,
a
jewish
german
immigrant,
as
the
21st
23rd,
25th
and
27th
mayor
of
tampa
with
his
first
term
starting
in
1886.,
you
see
us
jews
in
tampa.
We
go
way
back.
We
are
your
neighbors.
We
are
your
classmates.
We
are
your
co-workers.
K
We've
seen
it
in
the
far
right,
we've
seen
it
in
the
far
left.
It's
found
in
capitalist
socialist
communist
economies.
It's
appeared
at
different
times
in
our
history
in
different
places
across
the
globe,
but
at
its
core
it
is
the
fear
of
the
other,
something
not
like
me
and
it
lives
in
places
where
we
stop
making
space
for
difference
in
diversity,
and
what
I
can
tell
you
unequivocally
is
the
appearance
of
anti-semitism
in
any
community
is
the
first
symptom
of
a
disease.
K
So
you
can
understand
why
we
take
the
issue
of
anti-semitism
so
seriously
and
while
some
might
suggest
the
recent
graffiti
flyers
and
flags
are
minor
matters.
I'm
always
reminded
of
richard
weaver's
words
when
he
shared
that
the
trouble
with
humanity
is.
It
forgets
to
read
the
minutes
of
the
last
meeting.
K
K
We
are
also
grateful
for
the
friendship
and
partnership
mayor
castro
has
provided
our
jewish
community
in
our
efforts
to
shine
a
light
on
anti-semitism,
and
we
are
deeply
appreciated
and
to
address
questions
that
that
were
in
the
prior
presentation
of
chief
of
police
o'connor
and
the
entire
tampa
police
department
for
their
tremendous
around-the-clock
support
and
protection.
They
provide
our
jewish
community
in
institutions.
K
They've
been
absolutely
fantastic
and
I
will
conclude
my
remarks
by
encouraging
each
of
you
to
support
the
resolution
condemning
anti-semitism
and
to
use
your
offices
to
speak
out
against
anti-semitism
and
all
forms
of
hate
and
extremism,
regardless
of
its
origins.
Whether
it's
from
the
far
left,
the
far
right
or
anywhere
in
between
anti-semitism
and
hate,
are
dangerous
and
deadly
ideologies,
and
to
remind
each
of
you,
it
is
difference
and
diversity
that
makes
tampa
beautiful.
Let's
make
sure
we
keep
it
this
way.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
C
Sure,
mr
chair
and,
if
I
may
just
very
briefly,
I
wanted
to
thank
mr
provasco
for
coming
up
and
for
sharing
those
very
touching
words.
You
know
joe's
a
colleague
he's
a
friend
he's
just
a
a
good,
a
good
person
and
I'm
honored
to
know
him
in
honor
to
call
him
a
friend.
C
So
thank
you
joe
and
I
and
I
wanted
again
salute
councilman
carlson
for
putting
forth
the
motion
on
having
a
report
on
how
we
can
find
anti-semitism
in
our
city,
which
is
a
companion
to
the
resolution
that
we're
going
to
be
voting
on.
So
thank
you
for
that,
councilman,
carlson
and
and
as
was
said
before,
you
know
the
the
there's.
The
first
amendment
right,
which
I
think
it
was
hubert
humphrey
once
said.
The
right
to
be
heard,
doesn't
mean
the
right
to
be
taken
seriously.
C
That
that's
a
fact,
that's
a
fact,
but
you've
also
got
to
know
now
and
how
anti-semitism
is
not
just
still
with
us,
but
more
prevalent
today
than
it's
been
in
a
long
time.
We
live
in
the
era
of
the
of
the
free
of
life,
synagogue,
a
shooting
we
live
in
the
era
of
charlottesville.
C
We
see
what's
happening
in
the
tampa
bay
area,
so
we
certainly
have
got
to
use
our
voice
like
we're
doing
today
and
like
we're
all
doing
to
oppose
anti-semitism
and
to
call
it
out
and,
like
joe
said,
it
happens
on
the
right
when
it
happens
on
the
left.
With
I
happen
to
be
a
registered
democrat,
happens
in
the
democratic
party,
happens
in
the
republican
party,
and
we've
got
to
call
it
out.
So
I
I
hereby,
if
I
may,
mr
chairman
move
the
resolution.
E
M
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
if
I
may
oh
cousin
vieira,
thank
you.
I
I
want
to
also
thank
mr
provasco
for
helping
me
with
the
resolution.
We
took
the
congressional
resolution
that
passed
almost
unanimously
in
the
congress
and
revised
it
just
a
little
bit
for
the
city
of
tampa.
So
thank
you.
I
wanted
to
publicly
thank
joe
for
that.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
H
I
I
could
be
wrong,
but
it
seems
like
this
idea
or
big
push
of
it
came
from
council
member
vieira,
which
means
it
came
from
council,
but
then
it
ended
up
being
the
mayor's
veterans
alliance.
We
went
through
long
discussions
very
long
discussions
about
the
crb
and
other
things
and
the
legal
department
said.
City
council
can't
just
create
a
committee
on
their
own.
It
has
to
have
the
mayor
also
whether
it's
a
legal
issue
or
just
a
good
will
issue.
I
It
seems
like
it
could
be
the
city's
veterans
committee
instead
of
the
mayor's
and
then
we
could.
The
mayor
could
get
seven
appointees
and
city
council
could
each
get
one.
I've
already
had
people
who
contacted
me
to
ask
to
get
appointed
to
it.
It's
it's!
Since
it's
a
benign
thing:
it's
it's
only
good.
It's
only
positive
they're,
not
doing
anything,
that's
controversial
political!
It
seems
like
we
would
try
to
be
as
inclusive
as
possible
and
make
it.
The
city's
veterans
committee.
H
Yes,
sir,
if
so,
if
I
may,
when
I
wrote
up
the
created
the
memo,
I
aligned
that,
after
from
the
diversity,
equity
inclusion
lens
with
all
of
the
other
advisory
councils,
so
the
mayor's
african-american
advisory
council,
the
mayor's
hispanic
advisory
council,
but
absolutely-
and
we
can
open
it
up
and
have
it
as
as
a
veterans
advisory
council.
The
intent
is
to
get
the
voice
of
the
veteran
community
within
city
hall
so
that
we
can
hear
the
concerns.
So
we
will
create
that
avenue
of
of
the
framework
of
what
framework
of
what's
needed.
For
that.
Could.
I
Mr
chair,
could
I
just
make
a
motion
to
request
that
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
council
requests
that
the
mayor
and
her
staff
agree
to
make
this
a
city
committee
or
alliance,
and
that
it
had
seven
representatives
from
the
mayor
and
and
seven
representatives
from
city
council,
one
appointed
by
each
council.
Member
second.
G
Didn't
catch
that
mr
carlson,
you
caught
that
and
you're
right
I
mean
I've
already
had
the
names
of
a
couple
of
people
that
in
my
community
that
I
would
like
to
get
on
that
advisory
committee.
You
know
a
lot
of
times
when
you
go
out
to
the
cemeteries
in
our
communities.
We
don't
get
the
cameras
and
lights
like
you,
do
on
columbus
and
of
them
avery.
G
We
don't
get
anybody
over
to
resthaven
or
memorial
park.
So
for
me
I
think
it's
great
that
we
have
this
and
we
can
get
somebody
like
a
melvin
collins
who
handles
the
vfw
on
that
side
of
town
140th
street
some
people.
So
I
I
would
be
happy
to
say
we
change
that
to
where
it's
the
citizens
advisors
versus
just
the
mayors,
so
council's
involved
with
that
too.
B
I
So
so,
I'm
in
my
motion
and
again
it's
a
request
by
the
city
council
of
the
mayor
to
make
it
the
city's
veterans
committee
and
that
there
would
be
eight.
How
about
eight
representatives
of
the
mayor
and
seven
by
city
council,
one
chosen
by
each
council
member.
M
I
am,
I
just
have
a
small
request
if
it's
considered,
I
agree
with
the
balance
of
the
numbers,
but
one
thing
I
experience
every
morning
when
I
walk
the
streets
are
homeless
veterans,
and
so,
if
you
could
put
a
homeless
veteran
on
there,
I'd
really
appreciate
it,
and
so
maybe
that
would
be
the
one
add-on
and
whether
it
came
from
council
or
the
administration
or
working
with
our
homeless
community.
Maybe
that
would
be
great
because
we
still
have
homeless
veterans
on.
I
E
C
C
Yes,
thank
you,
sir
okay,
thank
you
guys
and,
and
excuse
me
my
early
departure.
We're.
I
E
E
We've
got
agenda
item
number
12,
which
file
number.
H
Good
afternoon
council
sia
win
administrative,
neighborhood
and
community
affairs.
I
submitted
a
memo
regarding
the
installation
of
a
memorial
bench
in
julian
b
lane
in
honor
of
miss
savannah
mathis,
who
lost
her
life
to
gun
violence.
Her
family
has
decided
to
have
the
dedication
of
the
memorial
on
august
24th,
and
I
just
want
to
know
what
questions
do
you
have
regarding
the
memo.
E
G
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
doing
this.
You
know
she
was.
She
was
very.
She
was
up
and
coming
in
all
aspects.
You
know-
and
I
just
felt
just
robbery
not
to
honor
her,
because
she
was
she
wasn't
up
and
coming
so
I'm
glad
the
administration
saw
a
fit
too
we'd
get
together
and
do
this
for
her
and
her
family
and
again,
the
big
johns
family
have
been
in
our
community
for
a
long
time.
H
J
I
I
think
we've
said
this
before,
but
we
need
a
different
policy,
at
least
to
handle
city
council
and
probably
the
mayor
that
that
doesn't
have
a
500
000
limit.
I
The
these
it
looks
like
we're
in
an
era
of
litigation
and
we
we
all
can
easily
get
run
up
twenty
thirty
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
in
fees-
and
you
know
we
saw
one
of
our
colleagues
hit
his
limit
and
he
had
to
negotiate
so
their
their
state
law
about
when
maybe
when
the
city
can
step
in,
but
there
should
be
some
insurance
to
cover
elected
officials
against
I'm,
not
it's
not
a
comment
on
an
existing
lawsuit,
but
any
possible
frivolous
lawsuit
in
the
future.
I
Otherwise,
we're
going
to
see
we're
going
to
be
bombarded
by
these
and
and
and
we
need
to
the
we
need
people
need
to
know
that
that
city
council
is
protected.
City
council
members
only
earn
50
something
thousand
dollars
a
year.
Many
of
us
have
other
jobs,
but
it's
it's
for
a
part-time
job
that
doesn't
pay
very
much
it
I
mean
we
spend
60
hours
a
week
at
least
on
this,
and
we
get
paid
53
000..
I
J
Well,
I
wish
I
would
have
thought
about
this
sooner,
but
here's
a
suggestion.
Perhaps
we
could
invite
our
consultant
gallagher
to
come,
talk
to
council
about
what
options
are
available
and
what
options
aren't
available.
If
that
would
be
beneficial,
is.
I
It
possible
that
you
could
get.
I
kind
of
thought
you
all
would
come
up
with
options
here,
but
is
it
possible
that
you
could
have
the
consultant
or
someone
talk
to
each
of
us
individually
and
then
come
back
with
some
specific
proposals
as
councilman
goods
always
says,
don't
tell
us
what
we
can't
do
tell
us
what
we
can
do.
What
are
what
are
our
options?
I.
J
I
Because
we
need
maybe
there's
some
level
at
which
the
city
attorney's
office
has
to
weigh
in
and
decide
whether
they
defend
or
not.
But
if,
if
somebody
on
the
outside
knows
that
the
city
attorney
is
not
going
to
kick
in
until
until
the
lawsuit
is
over
and
they
can
see
the
financial
filings
of
someone
they're
going
to
hit
them,
and
I'm
lucky
enough
that
I
can
afford
the
to
defend
myself
against
false
accusations
that
have
been
hitting
me
so
far.
I
But
not
everybody
can
do
that
and
and
the
the
public
needs
to
know
that
that
litigation
should
not
be
a
political
weapon.
J
J
I
Would
be
better
if
you,
if
they
talk
to
each
of
us
individually
and
then
and
talk
to
us
about
the
options
and
then
and
then
based
on
that
you
can
come.
You
can't
tell
us,
you
can't
carry
messages
between
us,
but
when
you
come
back
before
us,
you
can
say
you
know,
based
on
the
discussions
and
the
available
options
talking
to
consultants
here,
here's
one
option
or
three
options,
or
whatever,
okay
and
and
and
we're
gonna
have
to
fund
it,
because
because
it's
this
current
situation
is
not
acceptable,
can.
I
Yes,
I'd
like
to
move
that
city
staff
come
back
on
what
was
the
date
august
august,
25th
august
25th
reports
under
staff
reports
to
present
options
for
directors
insurance
that
will
protect
city
council
and
the
mayor
having
based
on
prior
conversations
with
city
council
in
the
mayor.
B
Let
me
say
that
I
may
not
vote
for
this,
because
I'm
also
going
to
exclude
myself
if
I
do
something
wrong
and
if
I
follow
the
instructions
that
are
in
the
charter,
then
the
city
attorney's
gotta
gotta,
represent
whoever
that
council
member
is.
Unless
I
I
tell
the
city
attorney,
I
don't
want
to
do
that.
Then
I
got
to
get
my
own
counsel.
That's
just
me
talking
to
myself
are
you?
Are
you
voting
that.
G
I
don't
know
no,
I'm
gonna
come
with
you,
I'm
just
saying
you
know
this
is
a
new
world
new
time
and
the
the
playbook
has
changed
and
the
tactics
that
some
of
these
people
are
using
is
egregious
coming
out.
The
elected
officials,
not
just
here
other
places
with
frivolous
lawsuits.
G
You
know
you
don't
vote
on
something.
You
know
someone
comes
after
you
and
sue
you
I
mean
it's.
The
times
have
changed
now,
so
I
mean
everyone.
Each
can
have
his
own.
They
don't
want
to
get
insurance
or
whatever,
but
I'm
just
telling
you
attorneys
aren't
cheap
it's
over
500
an
hour,
so
they
ain't
cheap.
G
I
Gossip
carlson
yeah
and
the
and
the
point
is
that
it
you
don't
know
whether
someone
did
something
or
not.
Anyone
can
make
a
false
accusation.
I
worked
on
lots
of
litigation
representing
clients
and
whoever
has
the
most
money
can
file
false
claims
against
someone
and
embarrass
them,
slander
them
and
then
it's
up
to
the
other
side
to
to
work
to
defend
themselves
and
it,
and
it
doesn't
matter
whether
it's
true
or
not.
If
whoever
has
enough
money
wins
and
unless
city
you
know
I'm.
I
Luckily
I
have
the
resource
to
defend
myself
against
false
accusations,
but
if,
if
somebody
else
doesn't
they're
going
to
be
in
big
trouble
and-
and
you
know
in
at
least
one
several
cases,
you
know
the
mayor
legal
department
and
the
communication
department
were
complicit
in
in
openly
attacking
and
alleging
false
accusations,
and
especially
against
council
member
goods
and
that's
a
separate
issue
for
another.
I
E
I
In
city
council
members
doesn't
mean
you
have
the
right
to
try
to
do
that.
There's
the
mayor
had
a
press
conference
to
allege
that
councilmember
goods
did
something.
E
I
I
D
E
E
I
E
E
I
guess
because
there
was
nothing
that
wasn't
going
to
be
put
off.
Councilman
carlson
asked
for
a
conversation
between
city
council
members.
I
I
I
would
just
if
we,
if
we
do
august
4th,
I
would
just
ask
staff
not
to
add
lots
of
items
on
additional
items
on
this
day.
We
need
at
least
an
hour
to
discuss
it.
What
I
would
propose
is
that
we
just
go
through
a
list
of
what
we
want.
We
vote
on
up
or
down
on
each
concept,
and
then
we
make
a
motion
to
ask
legal
staff
to
draft
the
language,
and
then
we.
D
It's
done
by
mrs
zelman's
coming
up
to
address.
P
You
all
right
now
yeah
good
good
afternoon,
andrea
deputy
city
attorney.
I
just
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
timing.
We
did
consult
with
the
supervisor
of
elections
office,
as
did
attorney
shelby,
and
to
get
something
on
the
november
election
ballot.
The
language
has
to
be
to
the
supervisors
of
elections
office
in
both
english
and
spanish.
By
no
later
than
august,
23rd.
P
So
to
to
try
to
get
something
done,
if
you
talk
about
it
next
week,
there
isn't
enough
time
to
have
two
hearings
to
adopt
by
ordinance,
because
you
have
to
adopt
by
ordinance
language
to
go
on
a
referendum,
and
you've
already
asked
us
to
do
it
on
that
accelerated
schedule.
Now,
for
the
rent
stabilization
ordinance
to
have
first
reading
of
an
ordinance
a
week
from
today,
so
to
try
to
do
charter
amendments
as
well.
P
P
Our
recommendations
were
given
to
that
city
council
in
may
may
24th
of
2018,
and
then
they
ultimately
had
first
reading
of
the
ordinance
on
august,
8th
and
then
second
reading
and
adoption
on
august
23rd,
and
that
was
to
put
it
on
the
march
2019
ballot.
Now
again,
we
could
still.
We
could
do
the
same
thing.
This
go
round
discuss
charter
amendments
for
the
march
2023
ballot.
The
deadline
for
that
is
something
sometime
in
january.
P
So
I
think
that's
more.
I
just
don't
believe
it's
realistic
to
try
to
get,
and
particularly
something
as
significant
as
amending
the
constitution
of
the
city
of
tampa,
to
try
to
rush
it
within
the
next
in
less
than
three
weeks
time,
basically
to
get
it
on
the
ballot.
I
P
Do
that
again,
you
asked
us
to
come
back
with
an
ordinance
for
the
rent
control
a
week
from
today.
If
you
wanted
the
same
schedule
for
charter
amendments,
you
would
have
to
give
us
the
ordinance
language
today,
so
we
could
get
it
to
you
by
next
week
and
again,
that's
an
incredibly
accelerated
schedule.
P
We
don't,
as
you
know,
we
don't
normally
throw
together
significant
ordinances
in
less
than
a
week's
time,
and
it
just
seems
you
know
again,
you
can
you
have
the
prerogative,
but
it
seems
very,
very
hasty
and
rushed
to
me
to
try
to
do
it
on
that
schedule
again
when
you
have
the
option
of
putting
it
on
the
march
ballot.
Should
you
wish
to.
I
I
have
one
mr
chair.
I
have
one
that
I
think
is
critically
important
to
move
forward
at
an
accelera.
It's
not
it's
accelerated
now,
but
it
wasn't
accelerated
as
of
several
months
ago,
if
we
have
to
put
everything
else
on
march.
That's
fine,
but
I
have
one
at
least
that
I
would
propose.
I
don't
have
language,
but
I
have
the
concept:
where
did
andrea
go?
I
I
I
I
understand,
even
at
the
crb
meeting
a
couple
nights
ago,
that
there
was
there
was
language
that
was
put
forward,
that
I
don't
think
the
city
council
would
have
approved
and
I
don't
know
which
client
the
the
the
legal
department
was
representing,
and
so
I've
talked
to
many
lawyers
in
around
the
florida
bar
about
this,
and
we
need
to
the
this
area
is
kind
of
fuzzy
around
cities.
But
I
think
what
we
need
to
do.
I
What
is
it
august
4th
in
august
18th
to
put
on
the
ballot
a
a
question,
a
proposed
charter
amendment
that
would
create
a
an
attorney
for
the
mayor,
an
attorney
that
would
represent
the
mayor
in
the
position
of
mayor
not
not
individually,
and
then
specify
that
the
city
attorney's
office
represents
the
city
as
a
whole,
not
the
mayor
or
city
council
and
then
and
then
give
the
city
council
attorney
the
right
to
hire
staff
and
outside
consultants.
Subject
to
budget,
that's
approved
by
council
and
the
mayor.
D
Meeting
the
greater
evening
of
the
18th.
A
I
Yes,
right
now,
there's
a
process
for
hiring
the
city
attorney.
In
addition
to
that,
I
think
that
we
ought
to
also
give
city
council
on
unanimous
vote
or
or
two-thirds
vote
the
right
to
fire.
The
city
attorney
also
city
attorney
has
to
be
neutral,
and
you
know,
city
attorneys
in
the
past
have
been
used
as
weapons
against
city
council
and
to
some
degree
here
we
need
to
make
sure
the
city
attorney.
They're,
good,
they're,
great
people
I
mean
morris
and
andrew
are
great,
are
examples
and
to
protect
them
and
to
protect
them
from
our
complaints.
I
G
These
are
guys
were
long
long
time
ago,
mayors
and
one
gentleman
told
me
he
says
yeah
I
was
told
to
do
an
assignment
and
I
gave
the
answer
as
the
correct
answer,
but
my
boss
says
I
don't
pay
you
to
do
that
answer.
I
want
that
answer
and
being
a
city
employee
before
and
now
council
again,
mr
tech,
if
I'm
your
boss,
you
do
what
I
tell
you
to
do
and
I
hate
to
say
that
and
I'm
not
you
know
we
have
great
people
here,
but
they
to
me
they
have
a
boss.
G
D
Don't
mean
to
interrupt
the
discussion,
but
I
just
got
a
text
from
the
city
clerk's
office,
and
it
this
affects
both
the
rental
control
ordinance
that
was
proposed
earlier
today,
and
this
discussion
they
do
not
have
time
to
do
the
notice
between
the
august
4th
and
august
18th
meeting
to
comply
with
the
florida
law.
So
that's
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
that
probably
means
that
neither
one
of
these
things
will
be
able
to.
D
I
We
can
set
up
a
separate.
Ms
hertek
suggests,
setting
up
a
special
meeting
right.
We
can
set
it
up
for
the
19th
or
the
23rd
or
whatever.
D
From
the
clerk's
office
yeah,
we
can
have
good
afternoon
council.
This
is
suing
lucas
with
deputy
city
clerk
city
clerk's
office,
usually
for
notice
to
be
provided.
It
has
to
be
a
10-day
notice
which
puts
us
at
if
you
choose
august
4th
that
will
not
give
us
enough
time
to
get
the
publication
to
the
newspaper
companies.
So
the
deadline
to
get
up
to
the
newspaper
companies
is
like
the
wednesday
august
10th
and
that's
going
to
be
shortening
the
time
length.
So
it
all
depends
on
if
you
choose
to
adopt
the
ordinance
on
first
reading.
D
No,
if
you
choose
to
have
the
first
reading
on
august
4th
that
is
fine,
but
on
august
4th
that's
when
we
need
to
decide
when
the
second
reading
can
be
held.
So
if
you
decide
to
have
a
special
meeting
for
the
second
reading,
it
just
needs
to
be
an
enough
time
frame
for
me
to
be
able
to
provide
publication.
D
D
Deadline
for
the
supervisor
of
elections,
so
it
cannot
happen
after
then.
Why.
P
B
D
B
D
J
E
L
P
Our
office,
we
always
consider
our
client
to
be
the
city
of
tampa,
and
that
includes
the
city
council,
the
mayor,
all
the
departments.
We
don't,
we
don't
consider
you
separate,
and
apart
and
against
each
other,
if
you
will
we
we
view
you
all
and
all
of
us
as
part
of
the
city
of
tampa
and
representing
the
city
of
tampa
as
an
entity
you're
one
part
of
it,
the
mayor's
one
part
of
it.
The
departments
are
one
part
of
it
and
we
represent
all
of
you
and
that
we
we
take
that
very
seriously.
P
So
I
just
want
to
make
that
comment,
because
I
know
you
keep
saying
we
have
different
clients,
but
our
client
is
the
city
of
tampa
as
an
entity
that
aside
councilman
carson,
your
suggestions
are
intriguing,
creating
a
new.
You
know
separate
attorney
for
the
mayor,
rewriting
the
role
of
the
city
attorney's
office,
rewriting
the
personnel
in
the
city
council,
attorney's
office,
but
each
of
those
separate
and
apart
is
pretty
complicated.
These
are
not
simple
things
that
I
can
just
throw
together
in
an
ordinance
we.
P
I
we
really
need
to
look
more
carefully
at
that,
because
you're
really
changing
aspects
of
our
current
form
of
government
and
I'm
just
not
even
you
know,
I'd
like
to
explore
further
whether
that
could
even
work.
You
know
what
you're
proposing
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
arguing
that
they're
bad
ideas
or
good
ideas.
I,
but
I
do
think
they
deserve
more
study,
and
I
can
tell
you
we've
been
doing
some
research.
You
know
when
the
city
of
tampa
amended
the
charter
back
in
2014
to
create
the
position
of
city
council
attorney.
P
P
P
One
city
followed
our
lead
in
2014.
I
believe
it
was
pensacola
and
gave
themselves
the
right
in
their
charter
to
have
a
separate
city
council
attorney
and
but
never
implemented
it.
They
still
have
someone
from
the
city
attorney's
office
sitting
with
the
city
council,
my
point
being
that
even
what
we
did
in
2014
still
raises
questions
about
the
role
of
the
city
council
attorney
versus
the
role
of
the
city
attorney,
adding
a
new
element
to
that
having
a
separate
mayor's
attorney.
P
P
And
I
suspect
that
if
I
were
to
discuss
this
with
them,
they
probably
agree
with
me
that
what
we're
talking
about
is
not
simple.
It
really
is
changing
the
form
of
government,
as
it
is
currently
described
in
our
charter
again,
maybe
they're
great
ideas,
I'm
not
saying
they're,
good
or
bad.
I
just
think
they
warrant
more
thought
without.
P
I
I
We
desperately
need
to
fix
this,
because
otherwise
we're
going
to
end
up
into
into
catastrophic
fights
in
in
this
city,
and
we
need
the
voters
to
clarify
this,
or
you
know
I
or
or
the
the
city
attorney
is
going
to
have
to
come
before
us
and
and
take
an
oath
that
that
that
no
no
opinions
are
going
to
be
made
without
city
council
approval.
In
addition
to
the
mayor.
P
P
I
mean
again
trying
to
meet
these
deadlines.
Is
is
extraordinarily
difficult
under
any
set
of
circumstances.
And
again
I
I
appreciate
the
sense
of
urgency
that
was
driving
the
push
to
do
it
for
the
rent
control
ordinance.
I'm
not
understanding
the
sense
of
urgency
to
do
that
right
now,
on
top
of
the
rent
control
ordinance
as
well.
E
B
Thank
you
very
much
as
you
sit
here
and
listen.
Ideas
are
good
and
ideas
sometimes
are
don't
fit
the
box,
but
every
one
and
then
you
have
an
invention
or
something
new,
and
you
equate
yourself
to
that.
B
B
B
So
the
more
you
get,
the
least
probable
you
have.
That
is
going
to
be
correct
because
you
have
another
idea:
what
about,
if
that
individual,
on
the
other
side
of
this
side,
don't
like
each
other,
what
about
it?
Legally,
they
have
a
different
of
opinion.
Where
are
you
going
to
go
then
to
court
to
fight
each
other
you're
going
to
pay
two
attorneys
that
you
have
to
fight
each
other
in
court?
See
who's
right.
B
B
I
Yeah
we
need.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
legal
advice,
similar
liability
thing
that
the
the
legal
of
isis
is
following
the
intent
of
counsel.
You
know
we
have
a
we
have.
We
have
multiple
situations
where
the
I
can
go
through
all
the
specifics.
If
you
want,
we
have
multiple
situations
where
the
city
attorney
worked
against
three
city
council
members
leaking
information
of
the
to
the
public,
making
false
statements
making
statements
out
of
school.
I
I
can
tell
you
all
of
them
if
you
want
also
spending
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
plus,
I
don't
know
what,
with
another
attorney,
to
investigate
a
city
councilman
without
telling
them
spend
giving
a
200
000
settlement
without
getting
city,
council
approval,
and-
and
you
know
the
mayor
holds
press
conferences-
this
the
communication
department
holds
press
conferences
and
sends
defamatory
information
about
city
council.
The
simple
solution
is
that
is
that
it's
not
me
or
city
council.
That's
causing
this
divisiveness.
It's
somebody
in
the
mayor's
office
and
the
simple
way
to
solve
it.
I
I
If
she
does
that,
I
will
declare
right,
then
my
loyalty
and
I'll
follow
behind,
but
just
strong
government
only
means
that
the
mayor
does
not
sit
on
the
c
on
city
council
doesn't
mean
a
dictatorship,
we're
not
going
the
reason
why
I
got
out
on
city
council
to
prevent
a
nasty
dictator
like
the
last
one
from
taking
hold
and
what
we
see
is
brutality
in
the
way
this
administration
has
attacked
city
council.
The
way
they
attack
orlando
goods
is
is
really
despicable
and
and
the
way
they've
attacked
me
the
way
they've
attacked
others
you.
I
E
F
F
Obviously
I
support
this
motion.
I
seconded
it,
but
I.
F
This
is
important,
but
this
is
a
really
long
discussion
that
we
all
need
to
have
with
one
another,
and
I
I
agree
it
would
be
great
to
for
everyone
to
come
together
and
as
long
as
there's
the
illusion
or
the
feel
by
some
people
that
there
isn't
a
coming
together,
then
it
isn't
going
to
work
so
whatever
it
takes
to
get
us
to
all
feel
like
we're
on
the
same
page,
I'm
I'm
absolutely
happy
to
do
and
if
that
means,
having
separate
separate
counsel,
that's
great
if
whatever
it
takes
so
that
everyone
feels
like
their
voices
are
heard
and
that
we
all
feel
protected.
I
A
Discuss
the
charter
amendments
at
a
workshop
on
september
22nd.
G
E
I
Could
I
could
I
make
a
a
follow-up
motion
just
to
put
the
specific
discussion
of
the
that
I
described
before
of
the
the
the
mayor
attorney
city,
council,
attorney
being
representing
city
only
and
then
the
city
attorney
being
able
to
add
staff
that
that
be
a
specific
part
of
the
discussion,
maybe
as
a
separate
item
but
connected.
I
I
We
already
passed
it
we'll
talk
about
all
the
other
agenda
items,
but
that
by
just,
I
think,
by
putting
that
specifically
on
there
it'll
it'll
give
the
legal
department
a
chance
to
look
at
it.
We're
not
asking
the
report
necessarily
but
just
to
have
another
discussion
about
that,
because
it
will
come
up
in
the
discussion
anyway,
but
just
to
put
on
the
agenda
that
we
will
be
discussing
that
in
particular.
That's
fine
with
me.
B
D
E
K
A
I
think
we
should
just
stop
all
this.
I'm
talking
to
everybody,
everybody,
let's
just
start
fresh
and
clean
we've
wasted
so
much
time,
arguing
and
fighting
today,
I'm
not
blaming
anybody.
I'm
just
saying
this
is
not
worth
it.
It's
not
worth
it.
This
is
tampa
city,
council
or
junior
varsity
level
of
politics.
A
I
understand
they're
important
issues,
but
fighting
and
being
at
odds
with
one
another.
I'm
not
blaming
anybody,
I'm
not
conspiring,
I'm
not,
but
we
can't
continue
like
this.
We
can't
people
attacking
people
and
suing
other
people.
Let's
just
start
fresh.
That's
just
me.
It's
worked
for
me.
I
can
tell
you
that
getting
along
is
possible,
that
you
can
make
peace
with
enemies,
and
I
think
we
should
try.
I'm
talking
about
everybody
mayor
here
there,
whatever.
A
F
I
wanted
to
go
back
to
the
charter
review
workshop
and
I
just
want
to
remind
all
of
my
brethren
who
served
on
the
charter
review
commission
with
me
that
we
did
get
18
amendments
passed
during
the
municipal
election.
So
I
believe
that
anything
that
we
that
we
still
have
a
a
real
ability
to
to
get
these
passed
in
in
march.
If
we,
if
we,
if
we
come
up
with
amendments
that
the
that
citizens
want
and
we
publicize
them
well,.
I
We
we,
we
did
not
resolve
the,
and
this
is
probably
what
the
clerk's
going
to
say.
We
didn't
resolve
the
issue
of
scheduling
august
20th.
For
for
your
item,
mr
goose
yeah,
I
believe
the
clerk
would
like.
D
To
for
you
all
to
schedule.
G
Chairman's
special
meeting
on
august
20th,
22nd
22nd.
D
D
E
H
D
E
D
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt,
but
I
do
have
to
bring
up
the
housekeeping
matter.
Carson
had
mentioned
what
made
a
motion
to
schedule:
the
charter
review
items
on
september
22nd
and
not
to
have
anything
else
on
that
date.
We
do
have
three
items
on
that
already
scheduled
for
the
22nd
of
september.
E
D
D
D
E
B
E
E
E
Is
there
anyone
in
the
chambers
that
wish
to
speak
to
that
continuance?
Only
do
we
have
anyone
online
to
speak
to
that
continuance.
Only
sir,
are
you
the
representative?
Yes,
mr
chair,
scott
mclaren
bank
of
america
tower
here.
E
We
are
requesting
a
continuance
and
we
concur
with
ms
wells
and
asking
for
a
one-week
continuance.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you
very
much.
E
E
Miss
wells.
I'm
sorry,
forgive
me,
sir.
Miss
wells
since
we're
on
this
82
is
asking
for
a
continuance
until
august
25th.
D
Completely
applicant's
representative
has
asked
request
of
that.
It's
a
vacating
petition,
and
so
I
think
all
the
council
would
need
to
do
is
move
that
to
let's.
A
E
Have
a
motion
to
continue
file
number
bac,
22-12
to
august
25th,
made
by
councilman
matt
scott
consecutive
by
councilman
miranda,
all
in
favor
all
right
is
there
any
opposed?
Thank
you.
Also.
Let's
take
care
of
number
83.
E
L
Good
afternoon
council
eric
cotton
development
coordination.
There
are
a
couple
of
first
readings
of
texas
amendments
that
council
heard
at
their
april
28th
workshop.
L
The
first
is
to
item
17,
which
is
an
amendment
to
regarding
commercial
vehicles,
so
change
to
chapter
43,
the
definition
of
commercial
vehicles
and
27
283.11,
which
is
the
commercial
vehicle
section
in
the
code.
There's
one
at
that
hearing
a
gentleman
from
bowman
heights
spoke.
He
had
concerns
about
the
language,
so
between
first
and
second
reading
were
to
come
back,
we
were
going
to
come
back
and
make
a
change,
and
it's
basically
to
the
definition
of
personal
vehicle.
That's
in
addition
to
the
code.
L
It
is
the
part
that
says
and
may
include
not
be
limited
to
automobiles,
private
pickup
trucks
and
vans.
That's
been
proposed
to
be
struck.
That
was
an
issue
he
had.
He
had
concerns
about
how
that
language
would
be
interpreted
at
the
workshop
council
was
okay
with
that
change,
but
it
didn't
make
it
into
the
draft
ordinance
so
between
first
and
second
reading
would
be
striking
that
language.
L
B
L
B
Point
and
then
you
have
the
vehicles
and
the
under
283.11
what
they
are,
but
nine
by
22
instead
of
ten
and
a
half
two
tons.
What
is
that
I
mean
you
can
have
a
car
nine
by
22
now.
L
J
L
B
L
Well,
that's
what
this
this
code
is
addressing
that
that's
the
where
this
code
is
coming
into
place,
those
p
the
people
that
have
it
on
the
side
would
be
able
to
park
it
at
their
house.
They
wouldn't
be
able
to
park
it
in
the
street.
They
wouldn't
be
able
to
be
able
to
be
parked
on
their
property
overnight,
because
right
now,
that's
not
allowed
by
our
code.
B
A
I
Yes,
sir,
I'd
like
to
move
file
number
e2022-8
ch27
number
17
ordinance
being
presented
for
first
reading;
consideration
ordinance
of
the
city
of
tampa
florida
relating
to
commercial
vehicles
and
residential
districts,
making
revisions
to
city
of
tampa
code
of
ordinances,
chapter
27,
zoning
code,
amending
section,
27-43
definitions,
amending
section,
27-283.11,
vehicle
parking,
repealing,
all
ordinances
or
parts
of
ordinance.
There's
a
conflict
there
with
providing
for
severability
providing
effectiveness.
E
L
Cotton,
eric
cotton
development
coordination.
This
is
amendment
to
section
27
318,
which
is
the
alcoholic
beverage
section
for
enforcement.
This
is
amending
the
ability
to
speed
up
the
process
if
council
determines
that,
there's
a
danger
to
people's
health
or
to
the
building
that
the
events
taking
place
in
for
a
consideration
of
a
suspension
or
a
revocation.
L
Well,
it's
danger
to
people's
health
is
how
the
code
is.
Gonna
is
going
to
read
that
would
include
if
there's
illegal
activity
taking
place
on
the
site.
That
would
all
be
wrapped
into
the
same
logic.
A
2022-8:
chapter
27,
ordinance
of
the
city
of
tampa
florida
relating
to
alcoholic
beverage,
sales
notice,
time
frame,
making
revisions
to
the
city
at
tampa;
ordinances,
code
of
ordinances,
chapter
27,
zoning
code,
amending
section,
27-318,
expiration
suspension
and
revocation
of
approvals
for
alcoholic
beverage
sales,
posting
of
notice
for
discontinuance
of
sales,
evidence
of
resumption
of
sales,
repealing
all
ordinances,
reports
of
ordinances
in
conflict
therewith
providing
for
severability
providing
an
effective
date.
Second
motion.
E
D
L
L
So
if
a
development
comes
in
utilizing
gray,
water,
which
is
waste
from
baths
and
showers,
not
from
toilets
and
such
they
can
get
a
bonus,
I
would
add
be
added
to
our
bonus
criteria
that
someone
could
tap
into
no
pun
intended
to
utilize
an
increase
in
their
density
or
their
floor
area.
F
I
was
briefed
on
this
and
I
talked
about
it
so
file
number
e,
2022-8
chapter
27,
ordinance
being
presented
for
first
reading,
consideration
an
ordinance
in
the
city
of
tampa
florida
relating
to
adding
gray
water
as
a
bonus
provision,
making
revisions,
the
city
of
tampa
code
of
ordinances,
chapter
27,
zoning
and
land
development,
amending
section,
27-140,
bonus
provisions,
repealing
all
ordinances
or
part
of
ordinances
in
conflict
there
with
providing
for
several
ability
providing
an
effective
date.
L
Eric
cotton
development
coordination:
this
is
an
amendment
to
the
definition
and
duties
of
the
city's
development
review
and
compliance
staff.
There
was
a
amendment
to
the
florida
building
code
by
again
the
florida
state
by
the
florida
legislature
that
was
trying
to
was
preempting
local
governments
from
regulating
design
criteria
for
for
the
city
of
tampa,
for
instance,
seminole
heights
and
parts
of
west
tampa
that
are
not
in
the
cra
parts
of
east
tampa
that
might
not
be
in
the
cra.
L
We
would
not
be
able
to
regulate
the
design
criteria
that
was
adopted
by
council
at
the
urge
of
the
community.
There
was
an
exemption
for
air
for
communities
that
have
a
design
report,
design
review
board,
so
we're
amending
the
definition
of
our
drc
to
include
them
to
be
a
design
review
board.
E
Councilman
goose.
E
D
L
L
This
is
an
outgrowth
of
the
city's
lift
up
local
program,
which
is
which
is
going
to
be,
which
I
don't
know
if
it's
expired
will
be
expiring.
This
will
allow
people
to
utilize
parking
spaces
in
the
actual
street.
They
can
then
utilize
those
parking
places
for
an
extension
of
if
they
have
a
sidewalk
cafe
permit
for
a
restaurant
or
a
retail
establishment.
They
can
then
utilize
actual
part
of
the
street
that
actual
code
section
for
that
enforces
that
and
regulates
that
is
actually
in
chapter
22,
which
is
the
transportation
section
of
the
code.
B
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman
item
number
21
file,
number
20
e
2022
chapter
27
or
is
being
presented
for
first
reading,
consideration
and
orders
in
the
city
of
tampa
florida
relating
to
street
cafes,
making
revisions
of
the
city
of
tampa
code
of
ordinances,
chapter
27,
zoning
and
land
development,
vending
section,
2743
definitions,
amending
section,
27,
127,
also,
classes
of
special
use,
permits,
agents
or
body
responsible
for
regenerative
procedures
providing
for
repealable
ordinance
or
parts
of
ordinance
in
conflict
with
that
providing
for
cerebral
ability
providing
an
effective
date.
Second,.
E
E
L
This
would
allow
somebody
to
they
still
have
to
meet
the
non-residential
parking
standards.
So
if
it's
a
retail
use
the
four
per
thousand,
but
for
if
they
had
like
two
apartments
above
a
small
business,
they
would
only
have
to
provide
one
space
per
unit
versus
one
and
a
half
spaces
per
unit.
Very
good.
I
E
D
E
You
thank
you,
council,
councilman
miranda.
Can
you
please
your
servant.
E
E
Question
made
by
councilman
good
seconded
by
councilman
miranda
all
in
favor,
and
he
opposed
thank
you.
Councilwoman
hertek.
Could
you
read
41
through
47,
minus
43
and
44.
B
B
E
E
D
E
A
Like
to
set
the
public
hearing
for
items
76
through
80.,.
F
E
E
Yes,
yes
did
you
want
to
roll
call
on
that,
just
okay,
fantastic!
Thank
you,
information
reports,
councilman
carlson,.
I
No
in
the
in
the
era
of
trying
to
bring
peace
back
to
the
city,
I'll
apologize
to
my
colleagues
for
getting
emotional
and
upset
these
issues
are
are
hot
and
the
community
is
giving
us
feedback
and
then
we're
also
experiencing
things
personally.
So
my
intention
and
effort
is
to
try
to
get
along
with
everybody,
especially
you
all,
but
also
staff,
and
I
hope
that
the
mayor's
office
feels
the
same
way
and
we
can
restart
at
some
point
with
a
collegial
environment.
Thank
you,
cousin.
E
B
E
A
Thank
you
very
much
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
present
accommodation
on
october
6
to
robin
bethune,
who
represents
light
up
nbc
nbc,
which
honors
those
who
have
lost
their
lives
to
metastatic
breast
cancer.
Robin
lost
her
daughter
erica
last
year
to
metastatic
breast
cancer
and
october
is
also
metastatic.
Breast
cancer
awareness
month.
E
F
You
know
it's
been
a
day
and
we're
just
gonna
continue
that
day.
You
know
we
had
something
happen.
Tuesday
night,
we
had
a
vote
by
the
crb
to
recommend
that
we
put
subpoena
power
on
the
ballot,
and
you
know
effective
policy
require,
requires
trust
from
the
community.
Without
accountability,
there
can
be
no
trust.
F
B
I'm
going
to
vote
to
put
her
on
the
ballot.
However,
my
personal
feeling
is
that
only
judges
state
attorneys.
We
call
it
when
they
have
it
to
a
session
to
accuse
somebody.
If
something
was
happening
in
washington
have
subpoena
power.
This
council
has
subpoena
power
has
never
been
used.
So
that's
all
I
want
to
say.
F
Well,
ideally,
the
goal
was
to
get
it
on
the
ballot
in
november,
but
it
doesn't
sound
like
we
are
really
going
to
have
that
possibility.
There's.
F
A
F
D
F
I'll
I'll
be
fine
with
that
and
again
I
I'm
I'm
not
saying
anything
about
how
we
all
feel
about
it,
but
we've
heard
enough
about
what
we
feel
about
it,
and
I
feel
that
it
really
is
just
up
to
the
voters
at
this
point,
we're
leaving
so
many
things
up
to
the
voters
who
might
as
well
add
another
thing:
okay,.
I
Councilman
carlson
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
As
councilmember
miranda
said,
we
already
have
subpoena
power
and
we
have
the
ability
to
delegate
it
if
we
want.
This
is
not
really
doing
anything
different,
except
making
it
specifically
available
to
them.
I
They
could
use
one
of
our
attorneys.
All
this
is
doing
is
making
attorney
available
to
them
without
putting
words
in
anybody's
mouths.
You
all
should
watch
the
video
from
the
crb
meeting
the
other
night
and
look
at
how
the
legal
department
represented
some
of
this
discussion
and
see
whether
you
agree
with
it
or
not.
I
E
E
E
I
I
So
the
second
thing,
though,
that
I
want
to
make
clear
to
everyone
on
all
sides
of
this
issue
is
that
and
I'm
not
a
lawyer,
but
but
state
law
prohibits
us
and
would
prohibit
them
from
subpoenas
to
police
officers,
and
so
we're
not
talking
about
punishing
police
officers
or
or
or
trying
to
subpoena
police
officers.
It
would
be
things
like
asking
for
cameras
on
a
store
that
are
available.
First.
E
E
E
B
B
A
B
Second,
one,
sir:
I've
been
advised
that
the
national
tradesmen
day
is
occurring
on
september
17
2022.
Therefore,
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
present
accommodation
to
the
logistics
and
assessment
assess
management,
also
known
as
lam
department
facilities
management,
tradesman
team
of
our
own
city
council
meeting
on
thursday
september
15th.
B
One
more,
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
for
a
congratulatory
combination
to
laura
and
stephen
chrysler
on
the
establishment
of
the
laura
and
stephen
chrysler
community
fund,
an
endowment
created
for
the
top
top
jewish
foundation
out
of
the
couple's
decade
decades
of
tireless
service
to
mankind
to
humankind.
Excuse
me:
this
combination
will
be
presented
along
with
recognition
from
hillsborough
county
commissioners
on
july
31st
2022.
B
B
And
that's
it,
the
other
one
is
just
that
we
do
have
a
budget
meeting
of
the
finance
committee
in
august,
the
fourth
at
nine
a.m.
We
have
two
special
call
one
on
september
six
and
one
september
20th,
that's
already
been
done.
Thank
you
very
much.