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Good
morning,
mr
chairman,
it's
a
real
pleasure
to
be
here
today.
We
invited
two
very
important
guests
here
today
for
a
very
special
today
today.
Mr
chairman
january,
27th
is
international
holocaust
remembrance
day,
which
is
the
day
marked
by
the
united
nations
on
the
liberation
of
the
auschwitz
camp.
We
have
two
very
important
individuals
with
us
here
and
prestigious
individuals
in
our
community,
mr
jeffrey
berger,
president
of
the
tampa
jewish
community,
centers
and
federation.
C
Mr
burger
serves
as
president
of
the
tampa
jewish
sen,
community,
centers
and
federation,
where
we
have
served
on
the
board
for
over
five
years.
He
previously
served
as
president
and
long
time
board.
Member
of
tampa
jewish
family
services,
a
social
service
agency
servicing
people
of
all
faiths
in
our
community.
Mr
berger
has
practiced
law
as
a
commercial,
real
estate
attorney
for
nearly
40
years
and
has
recently
retired
good
for
you.
C
He
has
worked
on
several
landmark
tampa
projects,
including
the
international
plaza
shopping
center,
the
brian
glazer
family
jcc,
mr
burger,
is
a
tampa
resident
for
15
years
previously
from
michigan
married
to
susan
kessler,
a
fourth
generation
tampa
native,
whose
family
has
been
active
in
the
tampa
community
since
the
1800s
he
is
also
a
drummer,
and
this
is
awesome
in
a
band
named
south
of
kennedy,
a
classic
rock
dance
band
with
the
most
tampa
band
name.
Ever
very
true.
C
We
also
have
here
my
good
friend
and
colleague
mr
joe
probaska,
who
is
shareholder,
managing
partner
at
busch
ross.
He
serves
as
a
member
of
the
board
of
directors
of
the
tampa
jewish
community,
centers
and
federation,
and
previously
served
as
president.
I
would
like
to
invite
mr
berger
up
here
for
invocation.
Please,
sir.
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Thank
you,
councilman
vera,
and
for
that
kind,
introduction.
Chairman
goodes
city
council
members,
fellow
tampa
residents
good
morning.
I
appreciate
your
inviting
me
here
to
present
this
morning's
invocation
today
january
27th,
mark's
international
holocaust
remembrance,
day
a
day
designated
by
the
united
nations
to
commemorate
the
victims
of
the
nazi
regime
and
to
promote
holocaust
education
throughout
the
world.
The
this
state
was
selected
because
it
was
on
january
27,
1945
a
mayor
77
years
ago
today
that
the
hellacious
auschwitz
and
birkenau
concentration
camps
were
liberated.
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The
u.n
general
assembly
resolution
establishing
international
holocaust
remembrance
day
urges
every
member
nation
to
honor
the
memory
of
holocaust
victims,
six
million
jews,
along
with
millions
of
other
minorities
who
were
murdered
by
the
nazis.
The
resolution
also
encourages
the
development
of
educational
programs
about
holocaust
history
to
help
prevent
future
acts
of
genocide.
The
resolution
rejects
any
form
of
holocaust
denial
and
condemns
all
manifestations
of
religious
intolerance,
incitement
harassment
or
violence
against
persons
or
communities
based
on
ethnic
origin
or
religious
belief
throughout
the
world.
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Remembering
is
an
expression
of
humanity,
remembering
is
a
sign
of
civilization,
remembering
is
a
condition
for
a
better
future
of
peace
and
fraternity.
Remembering
also
means
being
careful
because
these
things
could
happen
again,
as
we
remember
the
victims
of
the
holocaust.
We
also
remember
the
heroism
of
those
who
refuse
to
remain
bystanders
in
the
face
of
nazi
oppression
and
who
risk
their
own
lives
to
save
or
protect
jews
and
other
minorities.
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Yes
good
morning,
mr
chairman
members
of
city
council,
on
the
public,
martin
shelby
city
council
attorney
today
is
thursday
january
27th
of
2022
and
we're
here
at
old
city
hall
during
the
covet
19
state
of
emergency
meetings
and
workshops.
Today's
workshop
is
conducted
with
a
live
in
person
quorum
of
the
city
council
present
in
city
council
chambers.
D
However,
in
response
to
the
covet
19
restrictions,
members
of
the
public
are
encouraged
to
participate
virtually
through
video
teleconferencing
referred
to
by
florida
statutes
and
rules
as
cmt
communications,
media
technology,
the
public
and
the
citizens
of
tampa
are
able
to
watch
this
meeting
on
cable
tv
spectrum,
channel
640,
frontier
channel
15
and
on
the
internet
at
tampa.gov
forward.
Slash
live
stream.
D
D
Now
also
the
directions
for
participating
and
commenting
are
available
on
the
city
council's
web
page
at
tampa.gov
forward,
slash
city,
council
and
again,
mr
chairman.
In
order
to
have
this
hybrid
meeting,
I
would
ask
that
council
make
a
motion
to
accept
these
rules,
waive
their
rules
as
your
rules
and
adopt
these
rules.
As
stated.
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C
B
G
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E
H
H
H
I
think
there's
some
hypocrisy
there
in
the
media
reporting
that
it's
wrong
to
for
you
guys
to
speak
for
to
the
people
to
who
elected
you,
but
by
the
same
breath
they
think
it's
okay,
not
to
register
as
lobbyists
when
they're
making
money.
By
having
conversations
with
folks
who
work
for
the
city,
it's
not.
I
want
to
be
100
clear.
It
is
not
the
responsibility
of
any
of
our
elected
officials.
It
is
not
the
responsibility
of
city
staff
to
check
on
lobbyists.
That's
not
their
job.
The
lobbyists
are
supposed
to
be
reporting.
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If
they
don't
do
so,
it's
their
fault.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
any
of
our
elected
officials
or
our
city
staff.
But
why
is
it
that
the
media
seems
to
think
that
it's
okay
for
lobbyists
to
do
whatever
they
want?
But
city
council
shouldn't
speak
to
the
to
the
people
who
elected
them?
Please
reach
out
to
me
if
you
have
any
questions
info
fantampa.org
and
I
just
swagged
that,
because
my
speech
was
at
home-
and
I
had
to
take
my
kid
to
school-
have
a
great
day.
E
B
I
All
right,
my
name
is
carol
ann
bennett,
I'm
a
lifelong
resident
of
south
tampa.
Besides
the
fact
that
I
agree
with
absolutely
everything,
stephanie
said,
I
want
to
go
on
to
say
talk
about
a
different
topic.
It
really
blows
my
mind
that
people
who
don't
even
live
here
somehow
have
so
much
power
over
us.
The
ominous
proclamations
that
they're
coming
they're
coming.
We
must
do
something
seem
to
have
gripped
the
city
with
desperation
and
panic.
I
We
must
throw
up
cardboard
boxes
willy-nilly
on
every
square
inch
of
south
tampa,
because
they're
coming
I've
seen
firsthand
the
pressure
to
approve
more
permits
faster,
more
permits
faster.
If
there
was
an
official
name
for
tampa's
current
method
of
growth,
it
would
be
called
the
hair
on
fire
method.
I
Every
department
in
the
city
says
that
south
tampa
is
inappropriate
for
intensity
and
urbanization,
but
there's
nothing
in
the
code
to
stop
it,
so
the
city
can't
defend
against
the
lawsuit.
Therefore,
south
tampa
gets
stupid
growth.
There's
plenty
of
room
in
areas
that
need
development
and
redevelopment.
I
The
old
dog
track
could
be
like
another
water
street
or
midtown.
What
about
the
old
kmart
on
florida
avenue?
Much
of
the
code
was
written
40
or
50
years
ago,
when
tampa
was
a
completely
different
city.
We
need
plans
for
the
tampa
of
today.
I
am
encouraged
that
this
administration
established
a
resiliency
and
sustainability
department
and
a
planning
department,
but
if
the
emphasis
is
approving
more
permits
faster
and
you
divert
all
the
money
into
people
in
the
permitting
process,
then
you
don't
have
enough
resources
in
the
planning
process.
I
We
need
a
fully
fledged
fully
staffed
independent
planning
department.
We
need
to
hire
people
whose
sole
duty
is
to
write
new
city
code.
You
cannot,
you
cannot
just
add
planning,
tampa's
future
on
to
someone's
duties.
Why
not
put
the
necessary
resources
into
rewriting
the
city
code
and
direct
smart
growth
where
it
is
most
beneficial?
E
J
Hear
me:
yes,
sir,
we
can
hear
you
thank
you
so
much,
first
of
all,
start
off
by
thanking
cheers
and
goose
for
meeting
with
the
west
ham
for
cdc
to
hear
our
updates
and
our
pathway
to
success.
Thank
you
very
much,
sir.
The
thing
I
want
you,
the
next
thing
I
want
to
do
is
give
a
shout
out
to
the
councilman
that
we
put
johnny
johnson
and
raise
up
a
piece
for
giving
them
an
opportunity
to
give
that
pain
to
the
violence
in
the
community.
J
The
next
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
is
two
pieces
of
software
that
we
have
that's
going
to
help
us
in
terms
of
development.
The
first
piece
of
software
we
have.
We
now
have
the
ability
to
go
all
the
way
down
to
the
street
level
to
determine
how
much
income
in
any
particular
household
or
how
much
is
the
value
of
that
house?
That's
going
to
be
very
important
as
we
move
forward
with
our
strategy
to
change
west
temple.
The
next
thing
we
have
in
softband
is
called
map
porn.
J
Now
we're
able
to
map
out
everything
that's
going
on
in
west
temple,
we
can
identify
on
the
map
where
the
crime
is
we
can
identify
where
affordable
housing
is
all
that
stuff
we'll
be
able
to
get
on
the
map.
That's
going
to
take
us
really
to
the
next
level,
then
I
have
something
sad
to
say
about
census,
track
44..
J
My
understanding
from
the
meeting
with
the
cac
the
census
tract
44
is
not
going
to
be
part
of
the
the
oz
zone,
the
optimi
opportunity
zone,
which
legally
means
that
for
that
small
population
of
african-americans,
because
of
all
the
things
that's
going
around,
you
might
not
be
here.
So
I
want
people
in
west
tampa
to
wake
up,
especially
if
you're
in
census
tract
44.
J
You
might
not
be
here-
and
I
understand
that
everything
is
said
and
done,
but
I
think
that
we
need
to
if
we
live
in
west
ham,
you
just
can't
sit
down
and
allow
this
to
happen.
I
know
we're
going
to
the
department
of
justice
we're
going
to
our
elected
officials
to
say
at
least
protest
it,
because
we
can
very
well
lose
a
population
in
west
tampa.
That's
heavy
concentrated
and
african-american.
J
If
you
write
that
out,
that's
no
longer
a
concentration
of
african-americans.
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
giving
me
an
opportunity
to
speak
again,
tim
and
goose.
Thank
you
so
much
for
meeting
with
us
and
hearing
our
pathway
to
success
the
councilman
that
gave
the
raise
up
for
peace.
Thank
you
so
much,
sir.
I
heard
the
pain
of
those
people
that
dealt
with
brown.
Thank
you
very
much
for
giving
me
an
opportunity
to
speak.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
You,
sir,
a
gentleman
I
was
surprised
after
I
did
meet
with
mr
randolph
that
an
opportunity
zone
for
west
tampa
was
not
in
the
plans.
That's
very
surprising
to
me
knowing
that
community
over
there.
So
I
don't
know
how
that
happened,
but
well
we'll
ask
the
administration
about
that,
because
that's
very
troubling
that
that
is
not
a
part
of
an
opportunity.
Mr.
B
J
J
You
would
have
to
go
to
lorry
park
zoo.
The
city
is
dispersing
african
people
at
a
rate,
that's
just
unbelievable
and
once
again,
no
accountability
once
that
I've
said
it.
I've
said
it
again.
I've
said
it
over
the
years.
I've
said
it
over
the
decades.
We
cannot
have
representatives,
we
cannot
have
african
people
claiming
they
represent
african
people,
claiming
they
represent
minorities
and
cannot
use
the
word
reparations,
and
it's
not
just
black
accountability.
J
J
B
C
On
that,
before,
if
I
made
a
sort
of
give
like,
I
guess,
a
a
subject
overview
on
this,
because
we
never
talk
about
k-bar
ranch,
if
I
may,
sir,
may
I
yes,
sir,
I
appreciate
it
and
I
thank
you,
sir,
for
that
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
give
an
overview.
You
know
we
we
k-bar
ranch
is
a
part
of
the
city
of
tampa
in
new.
Tampa
doesn't
often
come
up
on
formal
city
council
agenda,
but
there's
some
real
big
challenges
out
there.
C
We
deal
with
larger
issues
that
are
very
acute
to
k-bar
ranch
without
highlighting
the
acute
effect
on
k-bar
ranch.
This
is
an
issue
of
population
growth
in
in
new
tampa.
I
always
cite
the
stats
that
in
1990
new
tampa
had
about
three
three
six,
four,
seven
about
eight
nine
thousand
people.
You
fast
forward
about
ten
years
later
up
to
about
twenty
five
thousand
people,
five
years
later,
37
000
people-
and
then
you
fast
forward
to
today
it's
about
between
50,
55
or
so
thousand
people
out
there
in
the
new
tampa
area.
C
I
believe
it
was,
but
if
you
take
a
look
at
that
very
helpful
study
that
our
friends
at
tampa,
firefighters,
local
754,
had
commissioned
four
out
of
the
six
fire
stations
in
the
city
of
tampa
that
that
have
the
longest
response
times
are
in
three
three:
six:
four
seven
stations,
20
and
21-
have
the
two
highest,
at
least
according
to
that
study
waiting
times
for
unit
travel.
At
about
10
minutes.
We
have
challenges
involving
the
connectors,
as,
as
I
know,
vic
will
explain
for
k-bar
ranch.
C
The
connectors
we've
dealt
with
ken
and
mansfield
now
we're
dealing
with
different
issues
there,
and
this
really
goes
to
the
very
center
on
why
I
propose
the
idea
of
a
public
safety
master
plan
for
the
city
of
tampa
for
for
both
tampa
police
department
and
tampa
fire
rescue,
the
idea
that
we
ought
not
to
be
so
reactive
or
having
a
patchwork
type
of
an
effect
on
different
public
safety
crises
within
our
city.
I
remember
that
chairman
goodes
brought
up
an
issue
on
east
tampa.
C
We
dealt
with
that
north
tampa
issues
came
up
in
february,
we're
going
to
be
getting
a
new
open,
refurbished
fire
station
or
medical
response
station.
I
should
say
for
the
north
tampa
area,
but
we
need
to
have
a
citywide
vision
where
we
know
all
of
our
deficits
at
west
shore
at
channel
side
all
over
the
place
to
deal
with
that.
So
I
want
to
talk
about
the
fire
response
times
in
new
tampa
those
are
around
10
or
so
minutes.
C
According
to
studies
that
I've
seen
you
talk
to
folks,
you
have
certain
calls
that
have
been
longer.
That
is
a
major
crisis
for
us
here
in
the
city
of
tampa,
because
if
it
was
you
having
a
major
medical
crisis
and
you're
having
that
kind
of
a
response
time,
then
it
would
be
a
crisis
to
use,
so
it
should
certainly
be
a
crisis
for
us.
We
got
to
talk
about
the
connectors
mobility
issues
very
important
to
33647
that
voted
about
60
for
all
for
transportation
in
2018.
C
That's
about
three
out
of
five
voters
there
in
the
suburbs
saying
please
raise
my
taxes,
because
things
are
so
bad,
so
I
just
wanted
to
give
that
that
overview.
Mr
chairman,
on
this
issue,
that's
why
I
wanted
to
have
this
discussion
today,
because
it's
so
critical-
and
I
know
that
our
next
concentration
on
fire
will
be
in
this
area,
but
I
wanted
to
give
a
preface
or
an
overview.
Thank
you
very
much,
sir.
F
Real
quick
to
respond.
You
know
this
is
a
life
and
death
situation,
something
that
a
a
former
sheriff's
deputy
that
I
knew
would
say,
and
I'm
sure
it's
been
said
over
and
over
when
seconds
count.
Police
are
minutes
away,
and
you
said-
and
this
is
separate,
but
in
fire
response
time,
10
minutes,
you
know
if
it's
a
major
fire
which
we
see
those
in
this
city.
You
know
those
minutes
count
and
when
we're
talking
about
minor
things,
mobility,
issues
and
connectivity
issues
that
could
cut
that
response
time
in
half
or
much
less.
H
K
You
recognized
thank
you
very
much,
councilman
vieira.
This
has
been
kicked
around
since
the
first
time
you
ran
for
office.
This
is
this
has
been
discussed
many
many
times,
and
you
know
there
were.
There
was
counties
saying
one
thing:
city
asking
for
another
and
it's
time
we
put
this
to
rest.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
this
to
this
workshop
today.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
B
When
are
we
going
to
get
there
or
I
respond
to
a
scene,
and
I'm
wondering
when's
fire
going
to
get
here
and
I'm
working
mr
brand,
I'm
working
on
somebody
when
are
they
going
to
get
here?
It
seems
like
hours
until
they
get
there.
So
I
do
understand
the
citizen's
concern.
That's
why
I
fought
so
hard
for
the
east
sample
situation,
because
I
know
the
magnitude
of
not
having
emergency
services
getting
there
in
a
timely
manner
to
help
our
citizens
but
we'll
move
along.
Mr
vick
is
here
to
explain
to
us
item
number
one.
B
L
Thank
you,
chair
and
good
morning,
chair
and
council
vic
director
mobility
department,
I'm
joined,
of
course
by
colleagues
from
fire,
tpd
and
legal
as
well.
A
motion
was
made
last
may,
I
believe,
to
talk
about
this
issue:
cabal
ranch,
parkway
and
the
surrounding
area
and
north
tampa
district.
Seven,
particularly
mobility,
connectivity
and
public
safety
issues.
So
I'll
begin
the
presentation
with
a
perspective
on
the
mobility
and
the
connectivity
and
some
of
the
conversations
around
that,
and
we
can
certainly
move
to
any
other
topics
as
needed.
L
L
Some
safety
improvements
that
we
have
done
on
the
existing
kvar
ranch,
parkway
and
adjacent
areas
in
partnership
with
hillsborough
county,
and
then
we
can
certainly
move
the
q
a
so
broadly.
This
is
the
network
cross.
Creek
is
a
county
road,
bruce
b
downs
is
a
county
road
k
bar
ranch,
parkway
is
a
city.
Road
and
morris
bridge
is
a
county
road.
So
this
is
the
general
area
of
district
7
that
we're
looking
at
this
area
is
limited
by
connectivity.
L
That's
kind
of
the
network
here
are
all
of
the
different
projects
that
are
planned
in
this
area.
Some
of
them
are
completed
so,
for
example,
if
you
follow
the
color-coded
segments
segment
c
is
already
completed
and
in
place
segment
d
is
constructed,
it's
been
accepted
and
the
flat
recorded
segment
e1
has
been
constructed
up
to
meadow
point
segment.
E1,
the
connector
for
meadow
point
is
also
complete
and
we
will
be
talking
a
little
bit
about
the
pink
piece.
L
If
you
will
in
segment
e2,
which
is
currently
in
process,
it
will
go
to
construction
in
a
couple
of
weeks,
in
fact,
maybe
less
than
that
and
is
slated
to
be
completed
by
july.
The
developer
already
has
secured
permits
from
pasco
county
for
that
work
and
we'll
be
moving
forward
with
it.
We're
coordinating
with
pasco
county
both
planning,
as
well
as
the
county
engineers
office
on
the
same
segments,
f
and
g1
and
g2-
are
a
so
segment
f
has
been
completed.
L
G1
and
g2
will
take
a
little
bit
longer.
Part
of
the
network.
Concern
here
is
g1
and
g2
make
the
connection.
As
you
can
see,
the
morris
bridge
road
and
the
future
connection
north
up
to
winfield's
boulevard,
so
we're
coordinating
these
two,
but
those
two
connections
won't
happen
at
least
for
a
couple
of
years.
L
So
that's
the
status
as
far
as
and
we
went
through
this-
I
won't
belabor
this
happy
to
address
it
in
q
and
o.
Our
big
concern,
of
course,
is
vision,
zero
and
the
safety
of
this
network
and
mobility
and
connectivity
across
for
folks
to
go
about
their
daily
lives
and
emergency
services
and
public
safety
as
well,
a
quick
plug
for
vision,
zero,
our
action
plan.
L
This
is
an
action
plan
that
is
relevant
every
project
that
we
work
on.
These
are
some
of
the
higher
risk
areas
along
the
corridor.
Based
on
the
crash
data.
We've
had
two
fatal
crashes
along
k
bar
range
parkway
over
the
last
five
years,
both
of
them
one
of
them,
was
a
single
driver
crash
and
the
other
was
was
a
two
vehicle
crash
in
an
angled
branch.
L
General
concerns
that
we've
heard
from
this
community
and
councilman
vieira
reiterated
that
as
well
are
speeding.
Speeding
is
a
concern
that
we
have
city-wide
and
it's
something
that
we
continue
to
tackle.
There's
a
tool
box
within
our
action
plan
to
address
the
same
as
well,
but
specific
areas
are
kvar
ranch,
parkway,
of
course,
while
hammering
drive
between
bassett
creek
and
kiva
range
parkway,
there's
a
roundabout
in
between
and
bassett
creek
itself,
where
there's
a
school
right
at
kenan
school
access
and
there's
some
congestion
and
speeding
concerns
there
as
well.
L
Emergency
vehicle
access,
the
ingress
and
egress
between
kinin
and
mansfield
is
blocked
for
through
traffic
and
gated
by
pasco
county
to
allow
only
bicycles,
pedestrians
and
emergency
vehicles
as
needed.
This
is
documented
in
an
interlocal
agreement
between
hillsborough,
county
and
pasco
county
we've
got
parking
and
queuing
concerns
that
we
continue
to
work
with
the
community
on
and
have
made
minor
changes
in
the
area
as
well,
to
facilitate
a
little
bit
more
on
street
parking
and
put
in
always
stops
to
to
improve
safety
and
then,
of
course,
there's
the
construction
traffic.
L
L
We
did
a
thorough,
deep
dive
on
the
various
safety
concerns
in
the
area,
and
this
is
just
the
synopsis
of
some
of
the
intersection
improvements
and
the
work
that
we've
done.
Of
course,
our
work
continues
and
we'll
continue
to
work
in
this
area
to
improve
safety
along
the
roadways,
as
some
of
these
newer
developments
keep
coming
online,
both
in
coordination
with
the
developer
themselves
and,
of
course,
internally
with
our
operations
and
engineering
teams.
L
This
is
one
of
the
designs
that
was
completed
again,
to
improve
safety,
happy
to
provide
details
on
these
we're
looking
at
narrowing
down
lane
widths
to
reduce
speeds,
something
that
we've
had
success
with
in
other
areas
within
the
city,
but
it
continues
to
be
a
challenge.
The
number
one
vision,
zero
challenge
for
our
region
and
the
country
at
large
is
speed.
If
we
can
reduce
these
speeds,
we
can
prevent
more
serious
injuries
and
fatalities
cannon
street.
L
L
C
Thank
you
very
much,
and
it's
funny.
I
believe
it
was
bassett
creek
where
this
happened
on.
I
I
remember
one
time
I
was
going
through.
I
was
at
a
k-bar
range
community
meeting
and
they
were
telling
me
I
believe
it's
bassett
creek
how
the
the
striping
and
the
lighting
out
there
was
such
that
folks.
Don't
know
that
some
folks
don't
know
that
it's
a
two-way
street
and
they
go
there's
always
the
threat
of
of
of
coming
on
crashes,
etc.
C
Okay,
I'll
I'll
note
that
I'll
talk
to
mobility
about
it,
then
afterwards,
I'm
leaving
with
my
son
and
I
swear
to
the
almighty.
I
almost
have
a
wrong
way
of
vehicle
hit
me
and
I
have
to
swerve
and
get
off
the
road,
and
I
called
you
vic,
and
we
immediately
did
some
striping
changes
out
there,
but
the
issue
is
that
there
are.
There
is
such
a
critical
need
for
safety
improvements
in
the
k-bar
ranch
area.
C
C
They
pay
their
taxes
and
they're
entitled
to
basic
dignity
and
respect,
especially
whenever
it
comes
to
mobility
and
safety
issues,
and
they
should
not
be
ignored
and
no
part
of
the
city
should
be
ignored,
but
especially
folks
that
are
out
there
who
have
been
ignored
for
so
long
again.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
similarities
with
k-bar
ranch
and
some
of
the
challenges
you
see
at
south
of
gandhi,
but
the
the
big
question
that
I
hear
is:
when
is
the
next
connector
gonna
happen?
It
would
appear
from
what
you're
telling
me
vic.
C
That
meadow
point
would
be
the
next
one
we
were
told
originally
that
that
was
gonna
be
open.
In
december
now
I'm
hearing
from
constituents
going
where's,
the
connector
and
now
the
city
is
now
telling
us
that
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
vic,
that
the
incoming
traffic
from
pasco
county
may
pose
a
burden.
I
don't
want
to
misstate
what
you're
saying
on
the
k-bar
ranch
community
without
an
additional
opening.
Is
that
a
correct
characterization,
sir.
L
Yes,
sir,
that
is
correct.
As
I
mentioned,
our
traffic
analysis
for
the
entire
area
is
predicated
on
four
connections
and
we
will
have
one
connection
that
is
being
facilitated
by
the
developer
come
online
in
july.
But,
having
said
that
and
looking
at
the
dynamics
in
the
region,
yes,
it
will
increase
traffic.
I
mean
when
you
open
up
a
road,
it
does
use
demand
automatically.
L
Or
vice
versa,
to
go
in
up
north
access
shopping,
so
this
metal
point
connector
of
the
four
connectors
that
were
mentioned
earlier,
would
probably
have
the
least
impact
to
that
end.
Because
if
you
think
about
it,
the
community
north
of
the
city
on
meadow
point
itself
has
access
to
56
to
go
to
bruce
b
downs
and
sure
it
does
get
congested.
C
Reopen
okay,
good
and-
and
I
and
I
appreciate
that
I
wanted
to
have
a
clear
answer
on
that.
So
that
appear
to
be
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
that
there
is
some
benefit
that
could
outweigh
the
detriment.
But
ultimately
we
have
to
talk
to
the
k-bar
range
community,
disclose
all
the
benefit
which
I
hear
about
all
the
time
disclose
any
detriment
because,
like
I
always
say
in
life,
not
everything
is
black
and
white.
There's
a
lot
of
gray
there
and
proceed
with
that
decision.
C
You
know-
and
I
also
want
to
talk
about
it-
another
time
but
legal
arguments
for
the
other
openings
ken
and
mansfield,
and
I
want
counsel
to
know
this
kenan
mansfield
is
open,
but
only
for
first
responders
only
for
pedestrians.
Only
for
bicyclists,
it's
always
been
my
position
that
it
ought
to
be
fully
opened
right,
but
the
most
critical
issue
is
public
safety.
That's
the
most
critical
issue
so,
like
I
always
say
I'll,
take
a
double
over
a
grand
slam,
but
we're
entitled
to
that
kirk
gibson,
1988,
world
series
home
run
on
this
issue.
C
G
We've
sent
a
lot
of
constituents
to
that
because
there's
the
hope
that,
soon
that
that
this
plan
will
come
out,
that's
equitable.
That
will
show
the
standards
and
conditions
of
different
roads
in
different
places
throughout
the
city
and
that
we'll
do
it
in
a
systematic
way.
Instead
of
a
political
way
of
just
responding
to
to
you
know
whoever
complains
the
most.
Can
you
tell
us
for
the
hope
of
the
citizens
watching?
Can
you
tell
us
what
the
status
of
that
is
when
you
think
it'll
come
back
and
when
you're
going
to
present
to
us.
L
Sure
thing,
and
thank
you
for
asking
that
question
councilman,
so
you
mentioned
two
items,
both
of
which
are
in
the
works,
and
one
is
the
moves,
mobility
plan.
This
is
the
city's
mobility
plan.
Our
first
step
was
to
go
out
to
the
community
every
single
neighborhood
in
the
city.
This
was
in
the
middle
of
the
pandemic,
so
we
had
to,
of
course,
use
virtual
tools
to
understand
one
area
at
a
time
how
neighborhoods
access
that
area?
What
are
they
doing?
L
What
are
their
daily
needs
as
regard
mobility
with
the
network
in
the
areas
we
used
that,
then
we
looked
at
a
broad
range
of
engineering
criteria,
beginning
with
safety
and
vision
zero
at
the
top
to
see
what
purpose
the
current
facilities
should
serve
relative
to
what
we
hear
from
the
neighborhoods
and
relative
to
the
state
of
the
practice
and
based
on
that
we're
coming
up
with
a
broad
mobility
plan,
which
is
a
vision
over
the
next
30
years
of
what
and
how
our
roads
will
function.
If
this
requires
reclassification
of
roadways.
F
L
With
the
state,
in
accordance
with
state
statutes
and
city
regulations
as
well,
so
that
is
the
mobility
plan.
The
mobility
plan
will
be
finalized
by
the
end
of
spring
early
summer.
That's
what
we're
targeting
the
mobility
plan
again
is
a
vision.
It
is
a
loose
framework
for
how
the
city's
roadway
network
should
operate.
L
L
Ada
needs,
certainly
in
everything
that
we
do,
that
is
federal
law
and
law
of
the
land
and
and
other
utilizations,
and
we
prioritize
our
sidewalks.
Based
on
that
again,
I
want
to
clarify
we
have
that
inventory
in
gis
today
we
have
80
of
the
answer,
we're
fine-tuning
the
remainder
and
that
will
become
available
along
with
moves
as
well
and
then
the
third
component
is
the
vision,
zero
action
plan
and
the
vision
zeraction
plan
looks
at
two
things:
what
should
new
roads?
L
Consider,
when
they're
being
built
to
improve
safety,
reduce
speed
and
improve
access
for
all
modes
of
transportation,
that
mobility
for
all
peace
is
really
important
and
then
the
more
important
piece,
because
our
existing
network
is
going
to
be
much
larger
than
any
new
roadways.
How
do
we
need
to
retrofit
our
current
roadways?
What
sort
of
processes
do
we
need
to
introduce
to
coordinate
across
departments
like
public
safety,
like
planning
like
zoning
across
the
board?
G
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
applaud
you
and
your
team
and
and
the
mayor's
office
for
having
the
foresight
to
do
that.
You
know.
For
a
long
time,
the
strategy
of
the
city
was
to
subsidize
real
estate
development
and
we
ignored
the
city,
ignored,
neighborhoods
and
ignored
how
people
interact
with
communities
and
we
want
real
estate
development,
but
we
also
want
to
have
livable
communities,
because
that
we
know
that
that's
the
the
real
economic
engine
of
communities
now
and
going
forward.
G
But
the
perception
in
communities
is
that
whoever
complains
the
most
is
gets
their
roads
fixed
and
hopefully
people
won't
have
to
complain
as
much
once
this
plan
is
done,
it'll
be
more
equitable,
it'll
be
better
planned
and
it
has
a
vision
which
is
really
important
for
anybody
watching
the
city's
also
doing
a
parks,
plan,
citywide
and
and
several
other
plans
to
try
to
make
sure
that
we
have
an
inventory
of
everything
so
that
we
plan
thoroughly
and
just
want
to.
You
know,
compliment
everybody,
including
the
mayor's
office,
for
doing
things.
M
I
don't
follow
mr
carlson
repeat
what
he
said,
because
I
always
had
to
take
personal
time
off
a
minute
to
do
something.
But
what
period
of
time
of
the
your
plan
for
this
road
completion
are
that
you
won't
have
to
go
back
and
extend
it
anymore.
For
what
period
of
time
are
the
capacity
levels
for
anticipated.
L
So
the
capacity
analysis
when
the
study
for
this
k-bar
area
was
done
was
for
a
period
of
20
years,
and
so
it
started
with
simulation
of
traffic
as
it
is,
and
the
anticipated
traffic
for
all
of
the
developments
to
come
online.
These
developments,
of
course,
have
not
come
online,
but
that
was
the
capacity
that
was
planned
for
I
would
like
to
add,
though
our
understanding
of
roadway
capacity
has
evolved
as
we
introduce
more
and
more
multimodal
options,
and
I
know
this
is
maybe
not
for
everyone.
L
Not
everyone
prefers
to
walk
invite,
but
there's
ample
evidence
to
suggest
that
if
we
create
a
network
of
bike
lanes
and
better
sidewalks
and
pedestrian
connectivity,
the
potential
is
there
over
25
or
approximately
25
of
all.
Trips
are
two
miles
or
lesser
and
they're
they're
possible
with
other
modes
of
travel
as
well.
So
we
look
at
it
as
a
capacity
augmentation
to
the
network.
M
That
means
you're
going
to
have
to
move
the
sidewalks
and
the
expansion
further,
and
I'm
not
questioning
your
ability
or
the
department's
ability
at
all,
but
I've
seen
too
many
times
with
the
expressway
and
I'm
not
questioning
them
either.
But
we
anticipate
growth
at
a
point,
but
that
point
comes
sometimes
much
sooner
than
20
years
for
the
reason
that
we
become
a
mecca
of
where
people
want
to
move
to,
regardless
of
where
they
come
from
and
mainly
they're
coming
from
the
north
and
northeast
at
the
present
time.
M
20
years
seems
to
be
a
long
time,
but
in
essence
it's
not
because
things
change,
for
instance,
in
20
years,
how
many
cars
you're
going
to
have
that
are
electric
and
your
your
mobility
studies
may
be
planned
on
the
vehicles
that
are
non-electric
today,
but
the
noise
of
a
coming
car
that
is
an
engine
and
one
that
is
not
an
engine.
That's
electric,
certainly
like
day
and
night.
You
may
see
them,
but
you
don't
hear
the
electric
cars,
so
this
problem
has
to
be
addressed
to
the
future
of.
M
M
Also
so
there's
an
enormous
amount
of
change
coming
within
20
years
that
today's
standard
of
20
years
is
applicable
to
today's
standards,
but
in
five
years
from
now,
that
standard
would
not
be
applicable,
in
my
opinion,
because
of
changing
things
that
are
coming
and
the
invention
of
not
the
inventions.
Those
things
were
here
already,
but
the
application
of
use
is
much
greater
than
it
is
today.
So
I
like
to
think
out
of
the
box-
and
you
know
we
have
a
a
good
standing
here
to
look
forward.
M
Certainly
when
you
have
the
roadways
of
the
vehicles
that
travel,
interstate
and
so
forth,
through
a
city
they're
hampered,
but
on
the
open
road,
you
have
ways
to
solve
some
of
those
problems
and
I'd
just
like
for
you
and
your
department
to
think
out
of
the
box,
because
these
things
are
going
to
happen.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman.
B
We
allocate
some
money
for
road
repair,
so
they're
coming
in
to
do
a
sewage
or
pipe
busted.
We've
got
that
money
and
they
come
in
they'll
resurface
that
road.
At
a
time
and
one
day
I
was
happening
happening
to
be
at
the
table
and
they
brought
in
a
map
of
the
city,
and
you
should
see
this
map
of
all
the
roads
in
the
city.
B
I
don't
know
where
you're
gonna
get
the
money
from
to
do
these
roads
vic.
I
mean
because
when
I
looked
at
that
map
that
rules
ain't
never
been
done,
miss
miranda,
I'll
be
honest.
I'm
like
I
looked
over
in
the
e-board
where
they
had
to
break
that
road.
Hadn't
been
done.
I
don't
know,
probably
ever
so.
When
we
talk
about
roads
within
the
city,
it's
it's
good
to
have
exclamation
you
guys
can
I'm
sure
they
still
have
it.
B
When
I
look
at
that
map-
and
I
see
rhodes
like
when-
are
you
going
to
get
to
that
where
you
get
the
money
to
get
the
most
these
roads?
That's
a
challenge
we
have,
unfortunately,
all
for
transportation.
Money
that
fell
through
probably
could
have
helped
us
with
some
of
that.
But
I
can
tell
you
it's
going
to
be
a
challenge
to
try
to
get
a
lot
of
these
roles
completed
and
finding
the
money
to
get
complete.
So
you
ever
get
a
chance.
K
L
I
just
want
to
thank
both
you
chair
goods
and
councilman
citro,
for
bringing
up
this
really
critical
issue
of.
Can
we
even
afford
to
maintain
the
roads
that
we
have
today
and
how
do
we
address
that
issue
in
in
light
of
growth,
and
I
will
just
leave
with
one
item
that
is
where
transit
has
been
found
to
be
a
very
strong
mode
to
fill
in
some
of
these
gaps
as
areas
urbanized,
which
is
why
we
see
better
transit
in
bigger
cities
and
we're
becoming
a
bigger
city.
So
thank.
B
They
call
our
office
and
talk
about
their
roads,
and
I
got
to
tell
them
or
refer
them
to
you,
because
I
don't
know
when,
but
you
know,
maybe
it
may
be
a
time
down
the
road.
It
may
be
something
on
the
website
that
people
can
see
about
the
rules
and
where
they're
at
when
is
it
coming
when
it
ain't
coming.
I
just
think
that
when
people
know
to
know
they
don't
vent
as
much,
they
don't
yell
as
much,
but
now
they
they
they
have
information.
C
If
I
may,
and
thank
you
chief,
we
were
talking
about
this
yesterday
evening.
We
we
both
had
very
very
busy
days
and
and
whatnot
with
regards
to
the.
If
you
could
tell
us
the
process
that
that
has
gone
through
for
the
additional
fire
station
or
fire
assistance,
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
and
k
bar
ranch
again,
it's
established,
the
the
the
issue
in
new
tampa
is
not
call
volume.
If
my
memory
serves
me
right.
I
wouldn't
bet
on
this,
but
I
believe
each
station
correct
me
chief.
C
If
I'm
wrong
out
there,
20
21
22
23,
get
about
2
800
calls
a
year
compared
to
between
seven
to
ten
thousand
for
station
11
and
station
13.
If
memory
serves
me
right,
the
issue
isn't
call
volume.
The
issue
is
access
and
waiting
times,
because
new
tampo
was
I
hate
to
use
the
term.
Maybe
it's
lawyer,
negligibly
negligently
constructed.
C
I
swear
to
the
almighty
with
one
big
way
in
and
one
way
out
and
it's
just
not
conducive
to
public
safety
challenges,
but
if
you
could
go
through
ma'am
the
the
the
future
steps
that
are
going
to
be
foreseeably
done
on
that.
I
know
that
again
we're
getting
ready
to
open
up
the
new
fire
station
in
the
north
tampa
area
to
help
out
with
13
in
new
tampa.
If
you
don't
mind.
E
So
we
can
try
to
decrease
the
response
time
and
once
we
get
that
analysis.
Of
course,
we
will
be
able
to
come
up
with
an
idea
to
decide
how
we
would
like
to
overcome
and
decrease
the
response
time.
That's
that's
been
dealt
with
up
in
k
bar
you
know.
Would
it
be
a
satellite
until
we
can
actually
get
the
funds
to
move
forward
or
you
know?
What
do
we
want
to
increase
units
and,
like
I
said
it's
not
so
much
an
issue
of
putting
a
station
up
there
or
not
putting
the
station
up
there?
C
If
I'm
wrong,
if
you're
a
fire
station
21
or
22,
and
you
want
to
go
into
k
bar
ranch,
you
got
to
go
all
the
way
down.
Cross
creek,
go
into
cannon,
mansfield
and
go
you
got
to
go
this
way
in
and
then
all
around
that
loop,
whereas
if
you're
at
the
fire
station
gosh
almighty,
I
think
it's
21,
that's
off
of
morris
bridge
road
and
cross
creek.
You
know
you've
got
morris
bridge
road
right
there,
but
then
you
can't
use
it.
C
C
So
again,
it's
a
conundrum
but
a
conundrum
that
we
have
to
fix
and
solve
as
soon
as
possible,
and
I
know
that
everybody
agrees,
including
first
and
foremost
our
wonderful
fire
chief,
and
I
see
captain
messmer
here,
who's
a
great
guy-
and
I
thank
him
for
being
here,
but
it's
something
that
we
have
to
get
fully
behind
110
percent,
because
we
continue
to
fall
behind
and
it's
it's.
It's
overwhelming.
I
think
for
our
city,
when
we
take
a
look
at
our
public
safety
deficits
throughout
our
city
and
then
our
coming
challenges
with
growth.
C
You
know
we're
talking
about
new
tampa
today.
We
know
that
at
west
shore
that
we
we
hear
from
our
firefighter
friends
all
the
time
at
west
shore
and
the
different
challenges
we
talk
about
downtown.
We
talk
about
the
downtown
area
and
the
need
to
have
an
additional
dedicated
fire
station
there
and
many
many
other
areas
west
tampa
we're
getting
all
that
workforce
housing
out
there,
that's
going
to
need
more
fire
stations,
more
fire
support
and
then
for
police
support.
C
That's
in
my
opinion,
true
throughout
all
of
the
city
of
tampa,
because
crime
is
an
issue
everywhere
and
everybody
wants
good
response
time.
So
it's
certainly
something
that
our
city
needs
to
continue
to
move
on.
We
are
moving
on.
I
think
we're
doing
a
good
job.
It's
just.
We
have
such
big
deficits
in
my
opinion
that
we've
had
to
overcome
that
it
can
be
overwhelming,
but
we
can
do
it.
Thank
you,
chief.
E
So
councilmember
vera-
just
like
you,
said
everything-
is
a
process
and
the
more
and
more
I
sit
in
this
seat
here,
I'm
beginning
to
look
at
the
system
and
see
how
we
can
better
the
system
you're
right.
We
can
continue
to
do
the
things
we've
done
in
the
past
and
that's
my
goal
to
look
at
the
system
and
see
how
we
can
revamp
the
system
for
the
community,
as
well
as
for
the
men
and
women
that
serve
in
public
service.
E
So
as
I
go
through
these
days,
I
am
looking
to
try
to
make
adjustments
to
the
system
to
better,
but
I
don't
want
to.
In
other
words,
this
is
this
been
a
situation.
That's
been
going
on
for
a
while.
I
only
been
here
short
short
time,
but
I'm
working
working
as
hard
as
I
can
to
try
to
get
that
information.
So
we
can
make
sure
we
do
the
right
thing.
C
N
Thank
you
chairman.
I
just
wanted
to
throw
another
piece
of
information
into
the
the
conundrum,
as
it's
been
described,
beyond
what
a
chief
trip
is
doing
and
all
the
investment
that
this
budget
brought
to
public
safety
approved
by
council
recently,
which
is
much
appreciated
to
support
chief
tripp
and,
of
course,
the
police
department
side.
N
That
is
a
fluid
deployment
with
the
private
sector
that,
if
they
integrate
well
with
the
public
services
of
both
the
city
and
county,
85
percent
of
our
calls
are
medical
and
they
can
stage
anywhere
to
reduce
response
time.
And
it's
my
understanding
that
the
fire
chief
in
hillsborough,
county
chief
dennis
jones
is
working
with
the
base.
N
So
there's
a
lot
more
going
on
than
just
the
fire
stations
and
the
deployment
behind
the
scene,
so
hopefully
that
information
will
come
in
and
then
be
complementary
to
the
information
that
chief
tripp
and
I
are
going
to
use
to
bring
this
city
up
to
the
best
fire
response
and
medical
response
in
the
country.
Thank
you.
B
I'm
glad
you
talked
about
that.
I
was
wondering
myself
what
what
kind
of
mutual
aid
agreement
do
we
have
with
the
county
and
actually
how
many
fire
stations
the
county
has
up
in
that
area.
I
think
collaboratively
working
together
and
you're
right
with
bls
may
be
coming
away
from
bush
boulevard
way
to
new
tampa
you're
right.
That's
that's
a
hike
you
know,
and
if
a
als
union
is
out
up
there
on
those
stations,
then
where's
the
next
airless
coming
from.
B
O
A
A
A
This
plan
was
developed
beginning
in
april
of
2021,
when
I
began
my
one-on-one
meetings
with
key
management
personnel
in
those
meetings
we
reviewed
the
relevant
portions
of
the
audit
universe,
discussed
concerns
and
management
had
an
opportunity
to
request
audits
upon
completion
of
these
meetings.
My
staff
and
I
completed
a
risk
assessment
of
the
entire
audit
universe,
using
a
tool
with
relevant
factors
and
designed
so
that
the
higher
the
score,
the
greater
the
risk
for
the
city.
A
B
A
Okay,
the
next
slide
demonstrates
our
performance.
Over
the
past
six
years,
the
department
is
typically
able
to
produce
15
to
20
audits
each
fiscal
year,
even
with
turnover
during
the
fiscal
year
2021
you
can
see.
We
completed
20
audits
and
13,
post
art
reviews
or
follow-up
audits,
and
each
one
of
these
slides
as
I
go
through
them,
has
a
web
link
in
case
you
want
to
look
at
the
full
report.
A
This
slide
shows
additional
performance
metrics
for
each
of
each
for
the
department
and
details.
The
percentages
of
our
time
spent
working
directly
on
audits
compared
to
total
time
and
available
time.
These
are
in
the
industry
standards
and
you
can
look
at
the
red
lines
and
see
they're
demonstrating
for
fiscal
year
2021.
A
O
Mr
chairman,
just
nothing
specific
christine,
we
appreciate
the
presentation,
we
appreciate
you
and
your
staff
and
your
hard
work.
I
know
at
one
point
there
seemed
to
be
an
indication
of
perhaps
a
little
bit
of
shortage
of
personnel
within
your
group.
I
can't
remember
if,
if,
if
you
suffered
from
layoffs
during
the
the
recession,
you
know
x
number
of
years
ago-
and
you
haven't
your
group
hasn't
recovered
since
or
where?
Where
are
we
on
that?
A
last
year
we
had
some
turnover
in
that
we
had
some
people
to
leave
and
move
on
to
some
other
things.
So
two
people,
so
we
were
short.
I
filled
those
positions,
one
had
a
new
person
starting
september
and
one
in
november,
but
as
you
know,
when
you
get
new
people,
I
hire
experienced
auditors.
So
they
know
how
to
audit,
but
they
just
have
to
learn
our
process
and
how
we
document
it
takes
a
little
bit
of
time
to
bring
everybody
up
to
speed.
A
So
we're
still
working
on
that,
but
even
with
that
turnover
had
somebody
leave
last
year
in
april
and
june,
we
still
were
able
to
complete
20
arcs
for
fiscal
year
21..
Now
in
so
I
became
got
full
stack.
I
was
school
staff
again
in
november
1st,
and
then
I
had
somebody
in
this
month
to
retire,
which
I
knew
that
was
coming
so
we're
still
short
one
person
now
and
that
position
has
already
been
posted
so
hopefully
we'll
be
hiring
somebody
pretty
quickly
to
come
back
up
full
stack.
O
Okay,
when
I
know
you,
you
meet
the
national
standards
of
your
organizations
and
all
that
do
they
have
a
standard
in
terms
of
number
of
auditors
for
a
city
of
of
our
size.
You
know
400
000,
you
know,
people
have
is,
is
there
a
standard
for
that?
And
and
and
how
do
you
and
your
your
your
total
sick
total
of
six
people
stack
up
as
to
that
standard,
great.
O
A
I'm
not
aware
of
a
standard
per
individual
number
articles
for
the
size
of
the
city
as
I've
described
before
in
previous
workshops.
Our
audit
universe
does
consist
of
over
160
items,
doing
15
to
20
audits
a
year.
It
would
take
us
about
nine
years
to
audit
everything.
Of
course,
our
approach
is
not
to
audit
everything
on
a
cycle.
We
do
take
the
risk-based
approach,
so
some
things
are
audited
more
frequently
than
others,
which
is
why
we
go
through
that
risk
assessment
process.
A
B
Before
I
go
to
mr
miranda,
I
want
to
piggyback
on
that
question.
Give
me
jefferson,
sir.
I
I
understand
where
you
what
you're
trying
to
give
us,
but
I
think
mr
ding
fella
we're
asking
for
a
specific
answer,
and
the
answer
is:
do
you
have
enough
people
in
that
department?
Do
your
job?
Does
this
council
need
to
get
or
talk
with
the
chiefs?
They
have
to
get
more
people
in
the
future,
because
this
city
is
growing,
budgets
are
bigger,
things
are
moving
faster,
so
I
think
the
gist
of
the
question.
B
I
mean
you
know,
I
don't
I
don't
like
those
answers,
let's
just
get
to
it.
If
you
need
more
people,
I
know
sometimes
because
the
chief
establishment,
but
the
bottom
line
is
I
mean
I
would
ask
him
that
question
if
he
comes
on,
if
you
need
more
people,
let's
be
honest,
we've
been
saying
this
in
the
city
we're
growing
now
and
we
got
to
just
face
it
that
if
we
need
more
people,
we
got
to
find
money.
B
N
N
I
think
there
are
methodologies
whether
they
exist
in
the
industry
or
it's
just
workload
analysis
I
know
christine
does
an
amazing
job
with
the
risk
level
and
some
things
need
to
cycle
through
faster
than
others.
But
I
do
think
we
need
to
do
a
pretty
good
analysis
on
this
going
into
this
next
fiscal
year
and
see
if
we
need
to
bring
in
additional
staffing
to
support
her
office,
especially
because
she
does
such
a
good
job
training
her
folks.
N
They
tend
to
land
other
positions
outside
and
so
even
at
minimum,
to
have
a
little
bit
of
bench.
Strength
if
you
will
in
her
office,
so
that
if
people
do
move
on
which
we
always
support
growth
for
everybody,
whether
they
stay
in
the
city
or
leave,
she
needs
to
have
that
bench,
strength
to
make
sure
that
she
can
keep
up
with
her
with
her
programmatic
approach
to
her
audit.
So
we
we
feel
very
comfortable.
N
M
You
very
much
of
the
chairman
as
glover
as
you
well
know,
some
of
the
audits
that
you
send.
We
sent
them
all
to
all
of
us
and
I
do
make
comments
on
some
and
I'm
really
amazed
on
how
quick
the
response
are
from
management
of
those
departments
that
you
audit.
In
most
of
the
cases
when
I
re-review
the
audit,
I
find
that
the
response
is
already
made
by
that
department
on
the
recommendations
of
your
staff
as
to
where
we
have
our
strength
and
we
have
some
weaknesses.
M
M
So
I'm
proud
to
say
that
you
and
everyone
working
in
that
department
has
done
an
excellent
job
and
from
what
I
read
back
on
the
department
that
I've
read
the
final
audits,
they
had
already
been
doing
to
meet
the
gold
in
which
you
set
the
standard
of
to
meet
the
requirements
of
those
standards.
Thank
you
very
much
for
what
you've
done,
and
you
and
the
departments
appreciate
it
very
much.
Thank
you.
G
Yes-
and
I
want
to
echo
what
others
said
about,
thank
you
for
your
dedication
and
for
your
team's
work
on
that,
and
I
I
also
read
your
audits.
I
appreciate
them
question
just
about
the
larger
process
of
things,
if
and
and
speaking
in
hypotheticals.
If
something
bad
happens
in
the
city,
if
somebody
does
something
bad,
the
mayor
gets
blamed.
City
council
gets
blamed
because
someone
will
say
why
didn't
you
all
provide
more
oversight
now
technically
most
of
the
staff
report
to
the
mayor's
office.
G
A
Councilman
carson,
just
because
the
area
is
audited,
we
can't
100
guarantee
that
there's
something
might
not
go
wrong
in
that
area.
We're
just
looking
at
the
internal
control
system
is
suitably
designed
so
that
it
reduces
the
likelihood,
but
keep
in
mind
that
management
is
responsible
for
ongoing
monitoring.
A
The
internal
audit
builds
periodic
monitoring
and
and
when
we
are
like
looking
at
as
an
example,
selecting
samples
we
use
like
a
90
confidence
level,
so
we're
only
looking
at
a
sample,
not
a
100
of
everything,
and
you
should
be
able
to
apply
that
to
the
population,
but
that's
not
a
100
100
percent
guarantee
things
do
come
up
that
need
investigating
and
we
do
non-audit
services,
so
they
can
be
requests
for
non-audit
services
or
investigation.
If
something
was
criminal,
it
might
go
to
tpd
to
look
into.
A
We
do
do
this,
the
hotline,
but
that
we
don't
have
a.
We
can't
provide
a
guarantee
that
nothing
is
gonna
go
wrong.
Just
because,
plus
you
can't
take
six
people
and
you,
you
know
the
management
structure
we
have
here,
the
number
of
administrators
directors,
managers,
supervisors
and
take
six
people
can
take
on
the
responsibility
or
ownership
of
making
sure
nothing
is
going
wrong
in
those
areas.
That's
not
humanly
possible,
so
areas
will
come
up.
A
B
P
Good
morning,
mr
chair
and
members
of
city
council,
susan
johnson
velez
with
the
legal
department
council
item
number
four,
is
our
response
to
your
request
that
we
review
the
city
of
saint
petersburg's,
recently
enacted
community
benefits
program
ordinance
and
determine
how
the
application
methods
and
processes
can
be
mirrored
and
applied
in
here
in
the
city
of
tampa.
And
so
we
did
do
that.
We
reviewed
their
program.
P
Their
program
was
established
via
adoption
of
a
series
of
ordinances
in
july
of
2021,
and
it
applies
to
public-private
partnerships
where
the
developer
assumes
full
responsibility
of
the
project.
But
the
city
provides
incentives
and
participates
at
on
a
limited
basis,
and
so
the
st
petersburg
ordinances
establishes
a
a
three-tier
system
based
on
the
level
of
permit
construction
value
for
the
project
or
the
city's
participation
value.
P
P
But
to
date
there
has
not
been
any
application
of
this
program
to
any
project.
It
is
anticipated
that
the
propaganda
field
area,
the
redevelopment
of
that
area
will
be
the
first
major
project
that
this
program
will
apply
to
and
that
will
implement
this
program,
and
so
it
remains
to
be
seen
how
its
application
is
going
to
work
out
and
implementation.
But
we
we
do
intend
to
continue
to
monitor
that
as
they
proceed
forward
with
implementing
it.
As
council
may
recall
there,
there
is
a
cra
policy
that
council
has
adopted.
That
requires
community
development.
P
However,
if
it
is
not
connected,
if
a
community
benefit
agreement
is
not
connected
to
a
rezoning
or
development
order,
we
believe
there
is
a
mechanism
to
move
forward
with
an
ordinance,
and
so
that
is
the
final
conclusion
I
do
see.
Mr
rob
rodner
has
has
logged
in,
and
I
believe
he
may
have
some
comments
on
behalf
of
the
administration,
but.
B
P
I
think
it
would
be
it.
It
may
be
problematic
if
we
connect
the
community
benefit
agreement
to
a
rezoning
but
separate-
and
apart
for
that
from
that.
If,
for
example,
we
follow
the
saint
petersburg
approach
to
apply
it
to
public-private
partnership
projects
rather
than
specifically
rezonings,
then
we
could
move
forward
with
an
ordinance
on
that
basis,
but
not
in
conjunction
with
a
development
order
or
a
rezoning.
Q
Yeah,
thank
you,
rob
rosner,
director
of
economic
opportunity,
the
rome
yard
cba
that
we're
in
the
process
of
negotiating
right
now.
We've
had
three
major
meetings
to
listen
to
community
as
part
of
that
process,
we
required
that
as
part
of
our
rfp
and
since
we
own
the
land
and
the
benefits
going
to
the
developer
for
the
value
of
that
land
and
being
able
to
develop
that
that's
why
we
required
that
as
part
of
this
process.
B
Q
Q
Q
B
Q
P
Excuse
me,
mr
chair,
yes,
ma'am,
susan
johnson,
susan
johnson
bless
again.
The
47th
street
project
is
for
affordable
housing,
which
you
know
similar
to
saint
pete,
which
I
just
mentioned,
had
exempted
two
projects
because
of
their
provision
of
affordable
housing.
Affordable
housing
is
considered
a
community
benefit
in
and
of
itself,
and
so,
even
under
the
st
p
ordinance.
That
type
of
project
would
have
been
exempt
under
their
program
as
well.
B
Q
B
Q
Well,
the
process
that
we
currently
have,
we
were
able
to
customize
it
based
on
the
type
of
project
that
it
is
and
to
identify
that
the
obviously
the
the
scale
of
the
project
is
the
biggest
piece
of
this.
Some
of
the
smaller
scales
could
be.
You
know
it
could
actually
just
be
a
hindrance,
the
larger
scale
ones.
B
Well,
I
would
disagree,
mr
roslin,
because
until
in
2019,
until
we
start
talking
about
why
brought
up
community
orders,
we
had
never
done
it
before
we
hadn't
been
doing
that.
So
we
get
another
administration
administration
without
an
ordinance.
They
may
not
even
do
it.
So
I
would
disagree
that
we
we
shouldn't,
have
an
ordinance
presented
for
the
citizens
of
tampa
in
reference
to
a
cba.
So,
mr
carlson,
I
would
I
would
have
to
disagree
that
I
think
it
would
be
necessary
because
before
then
we
were
not
doing
it
at
all.
G
Mr
rogers
just
a
follow-up
question
there
you
know
we
all.
We
all
talk
to
development
in
the
development
community
and
there
are
a
lot
of
big
developments.
A
lot
of
medium-sized
developments
out
there
and
and
in
the
past
some
developers
felt
that
it
felt
it
was
unfair
that
certain
developers
got
subsidies
and
some
didn't
how
how?
How
would
we
make
sure
that
that
a
program
like
this
is
applied
equitably
with
standard
criteria
that
that
any
developer
could
could
could
have.
P
Q
Well
great
question:
we've
had
three
major
meetings
where
we
presented.
What
all
those
benefits
were,
so
related
group
offered
to
have
40
of
the
project
be
done
locally,
which
represents
around
75
million
dollars
in
local
spending,
with
a
focus
on
minority
business,
small
businesses
and
women-owned
businesses.
As
that
part
of
that
40
percent,
they
offered
a
cultural
center,
that's
going
to
be
for
west
river,
they
offered
a
workforce
training
center
of
a
certain
size.
I
believe
it's
around
3
000
square
feet.
Q
The
the
retail
space
that
is
going
into
the
development
will
have
a
subsidy
of
about
10
years
for
allowing
local
businesses.
No
external
businesses,
like
a
you,
know,
a
subway
or
a
national
firm
for
having
you
know
what
they
call
micro
business
units,
so
they're,
basically
going
to
have
some
subsidized
retail
with
preferences
for
local,
as
well
as
the
the
more
tangible
benefits
which
are
pocket
parks,
they're,
an
amphitheater,
an
art,
mural
walk,
that's
going
to
be
added
to
the
build
grant.
Q
P
O
See
so,
mr
chairman,
I
I
guess
the
I
don't
know
whose
motion
this
was
originally
yours
and
and
mr
sietras,
I
guess
the
question
is:
where
do
we
go
from
here?
The
the
susan,
if
I
heard
you
correctly,
the
implication
is,
is
that
saint
pete
adopted
adopted
a
legally
enforceable
ordinance
and
program,
and
and
and
I
I
would
assume
that
there's
nothing
in
the
charter
that
would
preclude
this
city
from
doing
something
similar.
O
G
Ms
johnson
velez,
you
mentioned
that
there
were
three
objections
to
this
and
saint
pete,
and
I
was
in
st
pete
yesterday
and
heard
just
buzz
that
there
were
objections
to
whatever
their
program
is.
Could
you
tell
us
if
you
were
if
you
were
going
to
write
our
program
as
an
ordinance?
What
would
you
do
differently
to
avoid
the
whatever
objections
there
are
in
saint
pete,
or
would
you
just
leave
it
the
same.
P
Well,
sir,
I'm
susan
johnson
velez,
I'm
not
aware
of
what
the
objections
are
in
saint
pete.
As
I
said,
the
my
information
is
that
it
hasn't
really
been
implemented
yet,
and
so
what
we
would
do
is
continue
to
monitor
saint
pete
as
they
move
forward
to
implement
and
apply
this
program
to
a
specific
project
and
also
investigate
other
municipalities
and
local
governments
around
the
country
to
see
that
might
have
more
mature
programs
that
we
could
gather
some
guidance
from.
G
C
C
We
talked
to
the
community
stakeholders
both
organized
labor,
as
well
as
the
contractors
abc
mr
kona,
while
we
ultimately
didn't
come
up
with
an
agreement
on
the
final
product,
we
couldn't
do
that
and
and
and
that's
the
way
it
is
we-
we
did
get
a
lot
of
stakeholder
input
and
I
think
that's
critical
now.
The
distinguishing
point
is,
of
course,
that
st
petersburg
did
the
apprenticeship
ordinance
some
time
ago
and
then
wound
up
being
in
litigation.
C
This
is
something
that
hasn't
had
the
opportunity
to
be
implemented
at
this
time
it
would
appear
in
st
petersburg,
so
you
know
I
I
do
think
it's
worthy
to
proceed
with
something
like
this.
I
I
think
that
it's
good,
that
you
know
the
the
number
one
thing
that
we
hear
about
from
different
communities
here
in
tampa
city
council.
C
I
think,
if
I
could
summarize
everything
is
that
a
lot
of
times
that
when
you
have
development,
that
there's
no
community
benefits
on
a
lot
of
different
issues,
that's
it
there's
no
community
benefits,
so
something
like
this
seems
to
fit
hand
in
glove,
but
it's
got
to
be
done
in
the
right
way.
You
know,
anytime.
The
government
puts
on
a
regulation-
it's
usually
usually
well
intended,
but
it's
got
to
be
done
in
a
way
that
is
sensible
that
doesn't
preclude
growth,
that
doesn't
un
unnecessarily
and
unduly
burden
the
private
enterprise.
C
So
I
think
that
this
would
make
frankly,
maybe
potentially
the
land
use
process
a
lot
more,
a
lot
easier,
maybe
not
a
lot
easier,
but
slightly
easier,
at
least
for
for
certain
communities.
Again,
I
think
the
basic
idea
of
this
goes
to
the
core
of
a
lot
of
what
we
hear,
but
it's
got
to
be
done
in
the
right
way
and
again
we
can
learn
from
st
petersburg,
but
I
don't
know
if
there's
something
there
to
learn
from
yet
that's
that's
the
challenge.
Thank
you,
sir.
B
You
know
when
you
have
extended
incentives,
there
comes
a
benefit
and
if
I'm
building
something-
and
I
need
something
done-
I
go
to
the
city-
that's
a
benefit,
so
I
don't
think
of
a
hamper
development
and
we
can't
be
afraid
to
to
push
down,
but
sometimes
when
we,
when
we
need
things
for
communities
this
council's
more
community
community-owned
council.
You
know
we
want
development,
but
the
communities
have
been
saying.
We've
been
left
behind.
B
So,
if
you're
going
to
put
developments
in
communities,
communities
that
have
those
amenities
too
versus
other
places
that
have
luxury
amenities,
so
I
I
I
would
say
miss
willett
is
that
for
me
I
want
a
community
business
owner
in
the
city.
Administration
has
changed,
but
I
would
say
that
outreach
is
always
good.
B
So
maybe
we
can
get
an
engagement
with.
Mr
janelle
mcgregor
and
her
group
can
go
out
and
talk
to
communities
talk
to
the
business
development
communities
and
then
we
come
back
with
roughly
maybe
90
days
and
hear
what
they've
been
saying
and
talking
about.
And
at
that
point
maybe
we
can
come
up
with
in
some
type
of
ordinance
for
the
city
of
tampa.
B
R
H
M
M
And
there's
a
great
need
at
this
time,
not
only
in
in
this
city
but
in
all
of
florida
and
in
the
southeast,
really
that
the
explosion
of
population
is
happening
for
whatever
reason
and
the
work
shortage
is
there
because
we
don't
have
qualified
individuals
to
do
the
work
today,
not
yesterday,
but
today
and
for
the
future.
Hopefully,
that
can
be
resolved
to
some
mannerism.
That
is
acceptable,
not
a
crisis
level.
O
So
effectively
we're
kind
of
continuing
this
item
until
the
april
workshop,
as
well
as
adding
the
additional
suggestions
for
community
input,
we
urge
the
community
to
to
get
involved
and
give
us
their
input
either
at
that
hearing
or
between
now
and
then
right.
Mr
chair,
absolutely
okay.
There
was
a
motion
any
discussion
on
the
motion.
Second,
second,
for
mr
miranda,
all
in
favor
of
motion
all
right,
all
right
any
pose.
K
K
We
seem
to
have
a
lot
of
people
wanting
to
buy
electric
vehicles
to
help
our
our
clean,
our
air,
but
we
have
a
bottleneck
and
that
bottleneck
is
charging
facilities,
and
I
was
speaking
with
vic,
along
with
other
people
within
the
city
and
vic,
we
had
discussed
some
sort
of
more
charging
stations
within
our
parking
spaces
in
the
city
of
tampa,
and
that
could
be
a
public
private
type
of
situation
where
the
city
provides
a
parking
space.
A
a
private
entity
comes
in.
Can
you
please
explain
what
what
you've
come
up
with.
L
L
L
Can
you
all
see
the
screen?
Yes,
sir
excellent?
So
thank
you
again.
Vic
video
director
of
the
mobility
department
motion
was
made
by
councilman
seatro
seconded
by
council
on
maniscalco
to
speak
to
this
issue
and
it's
a
critical
and
a
timely
issue
of
electrification
of
not
just
our
personal
vehicles
but
entire
fleets
at
every
scale.
The
micro
mobility
to
trains,
we're
moving
forward
with
electrification
and
there's
a
lot
of
national
dialogue
around
this
as
well.
So
in
this
presentation,
really
we'll
lay
out
our
thought
process.
L
L
L
To
speak
to
what
kind
of
regulations
at
the
local
level
do
we
need
to
facilitate
what
is
already
happening
in
the
industry
and,
finally,
our
focus
one
of
the
key
t3
areas,
sustainability
and
resilience,
led
by
wit,
he's
been
working
with
pico
and
has
had
you
know
a
pretty
good
success
in
actually
getting
some
funding
for
charging
stations.
We'll
touch
upon
that
and
there'll
be
more
of
an
announcement
later
in
the
year
on
that
as
well.
L
L
Will
we
continue
to
own
our
vehicles
to
move
about,
or
will
this
be
a
service-based
concept
similar
in
the
media
world,
with
either
cellular
phone
plans
or
digital
media
like
netflix
and
so
on?
Where
there's
a
subscription
for
short,
mid
and
long
term
services?
We're
already
seeing
this
happen
in
the
short
term
or
the
short
trips
with
micro
mobility,
bike
share
and
so
on
and
there's
a
combination
of
ownership
versus
versus
a
service
based
approach.
So
that's
a
critical
factor,
but
that's
only
in
the
short
term.
L
The
other
big
challenge
is
electrification
of
mobility
will
require
significant
electrical
infrastructure,
backbone
infrastructure
at
the
utility
level,
especially
if
the
goal
is
to
move
towards
net
zero,
which
is
what
the
federal
government
is
indicating,
and
that
means
our
sources
of
electricity
will
need
to
be
clean.
So
solar,
wind
and
whatever
other
options
there
are
and
those
will
have
to
be
connected
to
where
the
demand
for
electricity
is
so.
L
This
means
significant
need
for
upgrading
our
transmission
lines
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
then
the
same
with
retrofitting
existing
infrastructure
and
buildings,
which
is
part
of
this
conversation
and
a
critical
one.
As
well
of
how
do
we
facilitate
charging?
So,
to
put
it
simply
before
we
talk
about
the
charging
station
itself,
we
do
need
to
look
at
where
that
electricity
will
come
from
and
what
kind
of
retrofit
will
be
needed.
L
Further
out
in
the
distance
we're
talking
about
20
years
overall,
but
there
is
a
short-term
increase
in
demand.
Currently,
our
charging
stations
are
primarily
accessed
by
monthly
customers.
So
one
of
the
considerations
is:
how
do
we
use
things
like
timed
access
and
incentives
to
serve
a
broader
pool
of
customers?
L
The
parking
division
currently
bears
all
the
costs
for
the
charging
stations
in
parking
facilities.
These
charging
stations
are
anywhere
between
10
to
15k
for
level
one
or
two
charging
level,
two
being
faster
than
one.
Both
are
240
volt
and
recurring
costs
right
now
for
the
chargers
that
we
have
are
about
18
000
a
year.
This
includes
electricity
and
the
subscription
fee
for
the
charging
stations
themselves.
L
L
So,
from
an
outlook
perspective,
you
know
we
can
expect
policy
and
legislation
around
that.
Some
is
already
being
discussed,
master
planning
and
we'll
touch
on
that
real,
quick
for
not
just
infrastructure
on
the
ground,
like
highways
and
garages
and
on
street
parking,
but
master
planning
for
what
kind
of
partnerships
will
be
needed
to
facilitate
this.
What
kind
of
opportunities
will
be
there
to
to
finance
some
of
this
beyond
traditional
means,
and
to
that
end,
the
iija,
which
is
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
bill?
L
L
This
is
not
a
mature
technology.
I
just
want
to
qualify
a
lot
of
these
items.
Policy
legislation
or
tech
are
not
entirely
mature
and
then
battery
systems,
of
course,
keep
evolving.
Getting
lighter,
better
storage,
more
power.
All
of
that,
so
our
proposed
approach
is
really
to
begin
incorporating
ev
charging
as
part
of
our
master
planning
effort
and
in
fy
point
d2.
We
are
engaging
a
consultant
to
come
up
with
a
master
plan
for
our
facilities.
L
This
will
be
a
living
document
in
because
especially
the
ev
charging
aspect
of
this
does
evolve
over
time.
We're
not
clear
exactly
how
that
will
unfold
and
then
dynamic
management,
so
be
it
policy,
be
it
partnerships
and
we'll
touch
upon
some
of
that,
but
the
idea
is
to
be
responsive
to
the
demand,
while
working
with
all.
A
L
Partners
as
well
so
look
at
some
of
the
partnerships.
So
far,
we've
worked
with
the
tampa
downtown
partnership,
as
always
they're
kind
of
at
forefront
of
thought
and
ideas,
and
they
engage
the
consultant
who
we
also
contributed
with
our
time
and
effort
as
well
towards
looking
at
electric
vehicle
charging
needs
in
our
downtown.
L
It
was
a
very
preliminary
effort,
if
you
will,
that
included
in
april
of
last
year,
and
really
they
looked
at.
You
know
the
the
some
recommendations
which
were
zoning,
ordinances
and
examples
to
require
uv
charging,
and
I
know
councilman
citro.
You
alluded
to
that.
A
bit
codes
in
standard
standards
for
the
easy
equipment
itself,
what
type
of
charging,
how
much
space
all
of
that
and
how
it
impacts,
codes,
incentives
and
then
public
investments.
Where
should
we
be
making
these
investments
like
workplaces
are
obvious
or
attractions
or
highways
for
range
anxiety?
L
So
there's
that
as
well
and
then
policy
recommendations
again
relative
to
zoning
relative
to
parking
and
public-private
partnerships.
The
city
of
tampa
is
also
a
member
of
drive
electric
florida.
This
is
a
non-profit
group
advocacy
group
that
promotes
electrification
and
electric
vehicles
industry-wide.
L
They
do
three
main
things
advocacy,
so
knowledge
sharing
education,
they
they
create
collaborative
partnerships
that
facilitate
these
and
help
with
ev
master
planning.
So
we
work
through
def
to
develop
a
statewide
electric
vehicle
master
plan
that
the
state
is
currently
soliciting
comments
for
and
finalizing.
L
Although
our
relationship
with
that
is
we're
looking
at
what's
happening
at
the
federal
and
state
levels
to
understand
how
we
can
fill
in
the
gaps
and
come
in
with
regulations
as
needed
and
then
finally,
the
city's
actions.
What
are
we
doing
this
year
so
parking?
The
parking
division
within
mobility
has
allocated
270
thousand
dollars
for
additional
chargers.
They
will
be
distributed.
You
know
in
concert
with
the
downtown
partnership
study
and
other
sources
of
information
along
on
street
garages
and
other
facilities
as.
L
We're
partnering
with
tico-
and
I
don't
want
to
steal
with
thunder
on
this,
but
there
will
be
a
several
additional
charging
stations
through
the
drive
smart
ev
pilot
program
that
pico
will
be
making
available
to
the
city
for
installation
adri
with
logistics
and
asset
management
and
whit
are
working
on
this.
We
will,
of
course,
support
them
as
needed
and
then
the
civic
center
on
hannah
that
facility
will
have
a
about
31
total
ev
chargers.
Today,
now
this
charging
equipment
can
be
expanded
based
on
demand
as
well
and
that'll,
be
across.
L
K
K
Manufacturers
I
by
no
means
I'm
telling
anybody
you
have
to
go
electric,
but
the
trend
is
coming
and
this
city
needs
to
be
prepared
for
it.
Vic
nothing
is
for
free,
nothing
is
for
free,
and
I'm
hearing
people
telling
me
all
the
time-
well,
you're
just
going
to
subsidize
these
cars
by
giving
free
electricity.
No,
I
I
have
so
many
apps
on
my
phone,
a
phone
green
slots,
ev
go
plug,
share,
charge
point
and
my
question
still
is
on
street
parking.
K
People
come
downtown
and
they
come
downtown
and
they
stay
here
for
an
hour
hour
and
a
half
unless
they
work
downtown.
That
is
the
opportune
time
where
someone
could
pull
into
a
parking
space
charge
their
car
fully
in
in
the
hour
that
they're
here
and
leave.
It
seems
to
me
that
that
could
be
an
enterprise
program
where
we
have
somebody
in
the
private
sector
that
will
look
at
the
city
and
say
we'll
charge
we'll
install
the
charging
station
and
we'll
split
the
funds
from
it.
K
That
seems
to
me
like,
like
a
no-brainer,
but
we
have
to
start
looking
at
this
now,
because
if
we
wait
it's
going
to
be
too
late
vic.
I
thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair.
I
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
if
I
could-
and
it's
just
it's
just
for
vic,
to
come
back
in
six
months
and
give
us
a
a
a
report
on
how
things
are
going
and
that's
june
23rd
at
our
workshop.
O
B
F
I
think
this
is
an
important
discussion.
Councilman
sieger
has
mentioned
it.
You
know
the
future
is
coming.
The
future
is
here,
and
I
have
to
commend
two
council
members
that
have
you
know,
put
their
money
where
their
mouth
is,
because
I
know
councilman
sitro,
electric
car,
councilman
miranda,
electric
car,
solar
panels
on
your
roof.
You
know
it's.
I
think
it
says
a
lot
that
you
have
public
officials
that
are,
you
know,
investing
in
in
what
it
is
the
future
I
mean
if
it's
not
just
you
know,
chevy
or
tesla.
F
But
it's,
but
it's
all
over
the
place,
which
means
that
the
world
is
going
in
a
certain
direction
and
we're
stepping
away
from
so
much
dependency
on
fossil
fuels
and
looking
at
cleaner
energy,
which
I'm
glad
because,
with
climate
change
with
everything
else,
I
know
that
some
council
members
here
are
doing
their
part,
and
I
appreciate
that
I
wanted
to
make
that
known.
Thank
you.
B
B
O
B
M
I
have
so
many
things
to
do
that.
My
tongue
is
not
going
to
get
tied
up
in
my
mouth,
but
when
I,
when
mr
sister
brought
up
free,
I
don't
believe
anyone
should
have
anything
for
free
for
electric
cars
charging
station
or
not
because
we
don't
give
free
gas
to
the
people
who
have
you
know
combustion
engines.
However,
it
changed
so
rapidly.
It
used
to
be
all
day
to
charge
a
car.
Then
it
was
half
a
day.
M
M
When
elon
musk
came
out
with
that
48
80
battery,
whatever
it's
called,
and
that's
only
the
size
of
the
circumference,
the
size
of
the
height
of
the
battery.
That's
it's
not
a
miracle
battery.
It's
the
size
of
it.
With
some
differences
inside,
you
got
the
proton
and
neutron
in
the
battery
that
makes
it
go
and
so
forth
and
so
on
and
now
the
batteries
are
to
the
point
where
you
can
charge
to
80
and
most
anywhere
automobiles
made
in
under
20
minutes.
M
Oh
wow,
so
it's
getting
to
the
point
where
you're
gonna
the
batteries
is
the
key
to
the
electric
car.
So
what
I'm
saying
is
we
have
to
think
way
out
of
the
box
and
like
we're
half
crazy,
that's
how
you
you
that's
how
adventures
are
made
by
crazy
people
who
think
out
of
blocks.
We
think
they're
crazy,
but
they're.
M
Not
so
when
you
look
at
these
things
and
you
have
the
panel
that
creates
the
the
energy,
but
now
where
the
energy
coming
from
the
same
old
way
of
thinking
of
doing
the
electricity
fossil
fuel,
that's
where
it's
coming
from
there's
charges
that
we
have
in
these
and
these
parking
garages
are
not
coming
from
anything
out
of
the
fossil
fuel.
Am
I
correct.
L
So
councilman
generally,
you
are
right.
Over
the
last
couple
of
decades,
we
have
moved
from
gas
power
to
natural
gas,
which
is
cleaner,
but
if
we
have
to
go
towards
net
zero,
then
absolutely,
which
is
why,
in
the
challenges
section,
I
talked
about
the
need
for
additional
transmission
lines,
because
the
solar
and
wind
opportunities,
if
you
place
them
on
a
on
a
map
of
the
us
they're,
primarily
in
the
middle
of
the
country
and
the
demand,
is
primarily
closer
to
the
coast,
which
is
where
most
of
the
people
live
and
believe.
So.
M
I
wasn't
saying
try
to
be
derogatory
to
your
department
or
you
or
anyone
else.
However,
you
just
hit
the
heart
of
the
system.
The
heart
is
what
pumps
the
blood
through
the
system
that
makes
the
body
work
in
all
humans
and
all
living
things
and
the
heart
of
electricity
is
in
the
batteries
and
the
storage
of
those
batteries
should
create
the
energy
at
a
much
lower
rate.
To
some
rate.
M
That
right
now
may
not
be
useful
for
some
else,
but
you
could,
in
the
future,
put
what
a
charging
station
there
made
with
your
batteries,
store
it
in
your
batteries
from
solar
to
give
the
people
the
right
to
charge
and
when
I
read
and
you're
and
I'm
not
questioning,
because
I
believe
you're
right.
The
charging
stations
are
10,
000
to
eighteen
thousand
dollars
or
so,
and
the
electricity
to
charge
and
use
those
are
about
eighty
four
hundred
dollars
a
year,
plus
nine
thousand
six
hundred
for
the
software.
M
M
So
maybe
I'll
get
nicknamed
you.
The
man
is
the
rubber
man
of
the
city
of
tampa,
but
you
you're
doing
a
very
good
job.
In
my
opinion,
it's
very
difficult
to
be
in
your
position,
and
I
appreciate
that
and
if
you
want
something
more
difficult
run
for
public
office.
So
what
I'm
trying
to
tell
you
is
that
these
things
are
coming,
and
sooner
or
later,
these
things
are
changing.
M
I
appreciate
what
you're
doing
and,
like
mr
citrus
said,
maybe
every
six
months
we're
going
to
have
an
update
just
to
see
what
the
world's
like
around
us,
not
only
how
we
live,
but
how
the
electric
components
are
coming
in
and
the
hundreds
of
components
and
there
many
other
things
that
are
coming
in
to
subsidize
the
way
we
live,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
the
chairman.
I
agree
with
everything
everyone
said.
Thank
you
very
much,
mrs.
G
Yeah
and
thanks
to
my
colleagues
for
bringing
this
up
two
questions,
councilmember
sitro
mentioned
revenue
sharing
on
on
these
charging
stations
are.
Are
there
examples
in
other
cities
where
cities
are
are
making
money
on
them?
After
you
know,
including
whatever
their
upfront
costs
were
are?
Are
they?
Is
it
a
profit
center
for
cities,
and
can
it
be
a
profit
center
for
us.
L
In
the
short
term,
it's
not
going
to
be
a
profit
center
and-
and
you
know,
profit
as
an
enterprise
department
with
the
parking
division-
isn't
a
consideration
either.
So
I
wanted
to
clarify
that,
but
even
cost
recovery
is
going
to
be
a
challenge
in
the
short
term,
partly
because
of
the
recurring
costs
and
partly
because
the
industry,
partnerships
and
models
are
not
there.
However,
there
is
a
lot
of
pilot
and
experimentation
and
we
look
forward
to
that
as
well.
We're
actually
looking
at
an
on-street
pilot
for
a
fast
charging
system.
G
L
So
currently,
a
lot
of
the
charging
scenario
has
been
driven
by
the
automotive
industry
and
they
primarily
hope
that
people
will
charge
at
home,
but
there
is
charging
available
elsewhere
as
well,
but
tesla,
for
example,
for
certain
models
has
free
charging
for
other
models.
They
have
subscription
based
charging,
so
they're
kind
of
trying
to
figure
it
out
as
well.
I'm
not
very
sure
what
gm
and
ford
and
some
of
the
others
do
as
well,
but
this
is
fluid
and
I
think
it's
prudent
that
we
visit
this
publicly
every
six
months,
yeah.
G
Anything
we
can
do
to
generate
a
surplus,
I
think,
would
be
great.
You
know
as
long
as
it's
providing
services
the
community
and
and-
and
you
know,
we're
serving
the
community
well,
the
other
question
is
some
of
these
vehicles
now
are
are
old
enough,
that
the
batteries
are
not
able
to
be
fully
charged
anymore,
and
I
think
most
people
go
to
a
dealership
to
get
the
the
batteries
replaced,
but
I've
got
friends
that
are
savvy
enough
to
replace
their
own.
G
L
G
B
K
K
Mr
chair,
if
I
may,
thank
you
vic.
Thank
you
very
much
for
this.
When
you
come
back,
I
hope
we're
gonna
you're
gonna
have
more
discussion
about
on-street
parking
as
well.
So
I
thank
you
for
your
report.
This
has
been
very,
very
complete
and
you've
done
a
thorough
job.
You're,
always
my
go-to
guy,
mr
chair.
If
I
may,
can
I
speak
with
miss
abby
felix
mason?
Thank
you
abby,
it's
not
on
our
agenda
today
and
I
never.
I
said
I
would
never
blindside
you
with
anything.
I'm
asking
you
at
this
time.
K
Whether
they
be
condominiums
apartments,
whether
there's
20
or
more
parking
spaces
in
malls
or
or
things
like
that,
if
we
can
talk
about
benefits
for
an
ordinance,
whether
it
be
a
charging
station
or
pre-wiring
for
charging
stations,
and
if,
if
I
could,
I'm
going
to
make
this
motion
after
we
get
finished
mr
chair,
but
would
three
months
be
sufficient?
Miss
feely.
S
Morning,
council,
abby
philly,
director
of
development
and
growth
management
for
the
city.
I
think
I
was
sad
that
vic
kind
of
popped
off
on
me
I
need,
would
need
to
work
with
vic
to
really
look
at
some
of
the
background
on
that.
I'm
coming
before
you
on
february
24th,
on
a
workshop
on
a
number
of
matters
that
were
in
preparation
and
at
that
time
I'm
going
to
ask
you
for
a
subsequent
workshop,
either
in
may
or
june.
S
I'm
trying
to
come
before
you
quarterly
on
our
planning
and
growth
management
matters
so
that
we
are
actively
you
know
looking
at
those
resolutions
and
also
looking
at
as
I've
said
to
you
intentional
and
predictable
code
changes.
So
I
would
ask
probably
for
a
little
more
time
than
that
to
come
back
in
the
mayor
june
time.
That
would
give
me
time
to
coordinate
with
vic
and
his
team
and
mobility
and
really
look
at
if
that's
a
possibility
within
our
code
and
and
what
we
would
do
well.
K
K
M
Let
me
let
me
see-
and
I
agree
with
what
mr
citro
had
just
proposed
in
the
second
by
mr
minnesota.
However,
there's
so
many
things
that
even
if
a
resident
who
owns
something
in
a
condo
association
may
not
be
able
to
put
in
something
that
he
or
she
wants
states.
The
county
association
prohibits
it
today,
but
those
are
laws
that
were
built
made
when
there
was
nothing
with
the
electricity
of
electric
cars
and
electric
other
vehicles
that
are
being
done.
M
M
It's
the
tip
of
the
iceberg
to
what's
coming,
it's
going
to
be
changing
so
quickly
that
I
mean
that's
well,
maybe
at
my
age
I
will
see
it
because
it
will
be
very
quickly,
but
it's
something
that
that's
needed
and
if
I
may
add
the
hoas
associations
and
stuff
to
the
nature
where
one
individual
wants
to
put
it
and
it's
prohibited,
because
he
or
she
can't
do
it.
Because
of
the
bylaws
of
the
association.
K
K
B
K
B
C
D
C
D
C
And
if
I
may,
the
some
time
ago,
city
council-
I
think
this
was
actually
before
I
even
got
elected
and
we've
continued
to
see
it
in
the
budget
again
and
again
and
again,
the
forest
hills
rec
center
community
center
improvements
have
just
never
happened
or
continue
to
be
stops
because
of
storm
water
issues,
etc,
etc.
I
want
a
staff
report
if
I
may,
what
are
we
in?
Let's
say
the
first
week
in
march
on
this
second.
C
D
C
Then
lastly,
for
commendations
under
commendations
in
march
march,
is
ms
awareness
month
and
the
following
month.
There's
going
to
be
the
ms
walk,
I'd
like
to
have
for
the
ms
society
to
come
out
for
a
commendation
for
their
work
and
also
talk
about
briefly
the
forthcoming
walk
in
april.
If
I
may
and
accommodation.
C
G
Too,
please
quickly.
There
was
a
a
fatal
accident
on
beta
bay
about
a
month
ago
and
vic
beatty,
some
city
staff
and
county
staff,
and
I
went
to
a
neighborhood
meeting
last
week
to
discuss
with
the
community
the
the
issues
surrounding
that
I've
also
had
conversations
with
harry
cohen
other
county
commissioners.
G
The
second
one
is,
as
you
all
know,
there's
some
confusion
about
how
much
things,
how
much
projects
cost
and
to
clarify
and
and
make
things
simple.
I
think
we
should
request
that
the
city
staff
present
the
the
total
cost
of
a
project
in
addition
to
capital
costs.
You
all
may
remember,
for
example,
on
the
hannah
avenue
project
the
project
was
mentioned.
I
can't
remember
the
exact
number
101
or
108
million,
and
then
I
asked
the
question
about
well.
G
How
much
is
the
interest-
and
if
I
remember
correctly,
the
interest
was
like
71
million.
So
instead
of
us
having
to
ask
the
same
questions
over
and
over
again,
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
request
that
city
staff
and
presentation
of
projects,
the
city
council
and
the
public
cite
the
capital
cost
and
the
30-year
total
cost,
including
capital
interest,
operation
and
maintenance
and
other
expenses.
Well.
M
If
I
may,
I'm
not
opposed
to
that,
but
it
means
like
when
you're
buying
a
new
car.
It's
not
the
price
of
the
new
car,
the
price
of
new
car,
whatever
you're
going
to
whatever
insurance
you've
got
to
pay
for
30
years,
whatever
you're
going
to
have
the
car
for
30
years,
all
the
costs
are
including
the
battery
or
the
gas
or
whatever.
M
B
G
B
G
If
you
go
to,
if
you're
buying
a
house
for
the
first
time
and
you
go
to
to
to
learn
about
the
finances
of
it,
you
can't
just
take
the
cost
of
the
house
and
divide
over
30
years.
You
have
to
include
interest
insurance
taxes
and
and
a
budget
for
operation
and
maintenance,
and
so,
if
we're
comparing
apples
and
apples
like
buying
a
building
versus
renting,
we
need
to
know
what
the
total
cost
is
and
so
just
to
keep
it
consistent.
If
they
will
present
both,
then
we'll
everybody
will
know
both.
M
B
K
O
E
B
D
Counsel,
your
calendar
might,
if
you
have
that
in
front
of
you
and
you
go
to
the
24th
they're
listed
there
and
it's
quite
extensive
one
of
them.
Mr
chairman,
is
also
the
rent
stabilization
issue,
and
just
so
you
know,
council,
depending
on
how
long
you
run
you
may
run
into
the
afternoon
and
just
a
reminder
that
the
evening
would
be
the
text
amendments.
The
excuse
me,
the
comp
plan
amendments
and
the
alcoholic
beverages,
and
I
guess
one
related
continue
rezoning.
D
S
Okay,
great,
thank
you
very
much,
abby
philly,
director
of
development
and
growth
management
council.
I
have
been
incredibly
mindful
of
your
time
on
the
24th.
I
am
in
preparations
of
creating
an
agenda
for
that
day.
Councilman
goodes,
you
asked
chairman
goods,
I'm
sorry
about
what
is
on
the
agenda
that
day
we,
the
rent
stabilization,
is
on
the
agenda.
That
day
we
have
the
ali
access
discussion.
We
have
a
local
street
discussion.
S
S
S
What
I
have
not
had
a
chance
to
speak
to
you
about
was
the
potential
to
set
rent
stabilization
at
130.
So
that
that
discussion
does
not
supersede
and
kind
of
side
track
all
of
the
discussion
for
that
day
pushing
many
of
the
motions
on
that
day
that
have
been
out
there-
maybe
eight
ten
months
out
even
further.
So
obviously
that's
up
to
the
chair
and
council
and
what
your
pleasure
is
on
that
day
for
the
workshop.
S
B
B
Heady
on
that,
I
was
going
to
ask
the
clerk
when
we
proceeded
to
look
at
that
calendar
for
the
24th
as
well,
to
put
it
in
a
prospective
manner.
That
would
be
able
to
get
these
things
off
of
these
agenda
and
quit
pushing
them
down
the
road.
Let's
get
them
over
and
done
with.
So
we'll
have
that
discussion.
D
S
Yes,
I
am,
I
did
work
with
lashawn
dock.
She
has
three
groupings
of
private
text
amendments
and
they
have.
This
would
be
that
cycle
bringing
that
cycle
forward
to
you
all
for
workshop.
As
you
know,
we
do
workshop
those
before
they
go
over
to
the
planning
commission,
so
that
council
is
aware
of
what
has
been
filed
privately.
D
S
And
one
more
thing
on
that:
just
to
add,
we
know
that
you
are
having
you
had
already
given
us
this
day
and
we're
very
grateful
for
being
able
to
have
a
focused
conversation
on
that
day.
We
also
recognize
that
you
are
having
discussion.
Where
february
march,
you
had
moved
believe
citizen
review
charter.
I'm
sorry
it
was
your
charter
item
discussion
from
march
from
february
to
march,
in
order
to
allow
us
dedicated
conversations.
B
Yeah
because
there'll
no
dates,
no,
that's
going
to
be
added
to
that
march
date
period.
All
right,
we'll
we'll
discuss
it
with
the
clerk's
office.
I
think
you'll,
probably
you
know.
I
know
that
that
one
topic
will
probably
be
long.
We
don't
want
to
make
sure
we
have
a
time
certain
on
that.
So
probably
be
a
good
idea
to
have
a
text
in
the
morning
and
do
the
rental
in
the
afternoon
so
we'll
discuss
it.
Though
all
right,
that's
involved.
We
got
the
motion
on
there
for
sure.
S
B
S
D
B
M
Only
have
one,
sir,
as
we
most
of
us
know,
roberto
clemente
was
an
all-american
baseball
legend
who
embodied
the
values
of
modern
citizens.
He
was
a
model
for
citizenship
in
the
right
direction.
He
also
won
two
major
league
world
series
championship.
He
was
named
to
the
world
series
most
valuable
player
and
was
a
all-star
for
12th
season.
He
served
this
nation
as
a
united
states
marine
corps
reservist
and
was
the
first
puerto
rican
inductee
to
baseball's
hall
of
fame.
He
was
also
inducted
to
the
marine
corps
sports
hall
of
fame.
M
He
was
posthumously
awarded
the
presidential
medal
of
freedom,
presidential
citizens
medal
and
the
congressional
gold
medal
for
his
civic
and
charitable
contributions.
Towards
that
end.
I
have
been
approached
by
mr
thomas
rousseau,
president
of
the
of
the
roberto
clemente
foundation,
requesting
the
city
tampa
city
council,
support
and
adding
the
site
of
roberto
clemente's,
passing
to
the
national
national
registry
of
historic
places.
He
will
be.
We
will
be
joining
new
city
of
new
york,
pittsburgh,
the
state
of
new
jersey,
palm
bay,
hartford
and
many
other
cities.
F
F
C
All
right,
if
I
may
just
add
to
that
with
roberto
clemente,
there's
some
baseball
players
that
just
mean
so
much
to
communities.
Roberto
clemente
is
one
of
them
that
just
has
so
much
heart.
Folks
like
on
top
of
my
head,
obviously
jackie
robinson
lou,
gehrig,
all
heart,
jim
abbott,
you
all
remember
jim
abbott,
california,
angels.
You
know
folks
like
that
that
are
just
all
heart,
and
so
thank
you.
Councilman
miranda
for
doing
that.
You're,
the
baseball
guy.
H
H
H
R
R
R
O
Good
morning,
commissioners,
dennis
fernandez
architecture,
review
and
historic
preservation
manager
welcome
to
our
first
meeting
of
the
year
just
a
couple
brief
announcements.
First
of
all,
if
you
haven't
already
added
the
dates
to
your
schedule,
the
2022
hpc
commission
schedule
is
in
your
packets.
O
O
I
did
want
to
let
you
know
that
you
do
have
a
new
parking
pass
in
your
packets.
If
you
parked
in
fort
brook
this
morning,
you
may
have
noticed
a
new
parking
system.
So
if
you
need
any
coaching
on
that,
please
let
me
know-
and
I
will
help
you
through
it,
but
it's
very
similar
to
the
previous
system
that
was
in
place
with
that.
I
think
we
are
ready
to
move
to
conflicts
of
interest
and
ex
parte
communication,
and
our
legal
counsel
will
lead
that
discussion.
E
Good
morning,
commissioners,
kamaria
pettis
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
Will
the
commissioners
please
whether
or
not
they
have
any
conflicts
of
interest
regarding
the
items
that
are
on
the
agenda
this
morning,
hearing
none
for
the
record.
Additionally,
will
the
commissioners
please
state
whether
or
not
they
had
any
expert
communication
regarding
any
of
the
items
on
the
agenda?
E
Well,
thank
you!
So
much
and
just
as
a
reminder
with
us
all
wearing
our
mask.
If
you
could
try
as
hard
as
possible
to
speak
loudly
into
the
microphone,
because,
obviously
the
mask
creates
an
additional
barrier,
so
I'm
sure
our
I.t
department
would
appreciate
us
trying
to
speak
as
loud
as
possible.
Thank
you.
So
much.
O
O
H
H
The
original
owners,
the
the
truesdale
family,
had
an
interest
in
poultry
farming,
and
you
can
see
here
on
this
early
sanborn
map,
all
the
little
yellow
those
indicate
wood
frame
structures
and
the
dashed
lines
so
that
they
were
open
air.
So
these
were
all
the
the
poultry
houses
that
mrs
truesdale
used
to
house
her
her
chickens.
H
She
was
a
competitive,
poultry,
raiser
and
a
big
advocate
and
judge
at
the
florida
state.
Fair.
The
red
line
on
the
map
indicates
the
current
boundaries
of
the
stovall
house
property,
and
you
can
see
in
the
center
of
that
the
the
stovall
house
as
it
stood.
Then
the
1931
sanborn
map
indicates
just
the
the
area
that
is
in
red
there.
That
is
the
present
property
today.
The
remainder.