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Good
morning
good
morning
and
welcome
to
the
tampa
city
council
held
on
this
day
today,
august
25th
2022.
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Councilwoman
her
her
attack,
I
believe
you
have
the
invocation
if
we
could
all
please
rise
and
remain
standing
for
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
D
Today
I
am
thrilled
to
have
cheryl
schroeder
with
us,
and
she
represents
the
west
central
florida
labor
council,
the
local
chapter
of
the
afl-cio.
She
guides
advocacy
on
behalf
of
80
000
union
member
families
in
tampa
bay,
through
collaboration
with
leadership
of
numerous
local
unions.
Her
organization
is
focused
on
ensuring
that
we
help
our
local
communities
with
common
sense
and
fiscally
responsible
government
leadership
and
on
legislation
and
elected
officials
to
understand
the
needs
of
working
families.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
today.
Thank
you
for
inviting
me.
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This
effort
and
many
struggles
that
followed
in
the
coming
years
built
a
momentum
as
workers
organized
across
the
country.
Unions
became
strong
and
over
the
next
50
years,
built
the
middle
class.
Since
that
first
labor
day,
labor
unions
have
played
a
central
role
in
the
elevation
of
the
american
standard
of
living.
The
benefits
which
unions
have
negotiated
for
their
members
are
widespread
in
the
economy
and
enjoyed
by
fellow
workers
outside
the
labor
movement.
A
Today,
labor
unions
are
the
one
and
only
voice
for
workers.
We
continue
tirelessly
to
protect
these
gains
for
all
workers
union
or
not
through
political
action
and
organizing.
We
educate
our
members
to
stop
the
attacks
to
our
values
of
equality,
racial
and
economic
justice
and
fair
treatment
in
the
workplace.
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Labor
unions
are
seeing
a
surge
in
worker,
organizing
that
isn't
happening
by
accident,
from
amazon,
warehouses
to
coffee
shops,
to
university
campuses
and
beyond.
Working
people
are
organizing
and
rising.
This
momentum
is
the
product
of
decades
of
worker
frustration
driven
by
low
wages,
unsafe
workplaces,
unaffordable,
health
care
and
a
lack
of
respect
and
dignity
on
the
job.
We
support
these
efforts
to
build
our
movement
and
rebuild
the
middle
class
labor
day.
It's
a
hard
earned
holiday
coming
out
of
the
struggles
of
working
people
for
the
eight
hour
day
and
the
right
to
organize
unions.
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It
is
time
to
honor
the
soccer
sacrifices
by
many
of
our
union
members
in
expanding
their
rights
and
freedoms
over
decades
to
create
better
lives
for
ourselves
and
our
families.
We
invite
you
to
join
us
in
the
fight
to
build
a
stronger
democracy
and
protect
our
freedoms
to
not
move
backwards,
always
forwards.
Thank
you
and
please
allow
me
to
informally
invite
you
to
our
labor
day
celebration
to
be
held
on
monday
september.
The
5th
in
apollo
beach
hope
to
see
you
there.
Thank
you.
E
H
B
I
Good
morning,
mr
chair,
this
is
the
august
25
2022
meeting
of
the
city
of
tampa
city
council
held
in
city
council
chambers
on
the
third
floor
of
old
city
hall,
315
east
kennedy
boulevard
here
in
tampa
florida.
The
public
is
able
to
attend
this
meeting
in
person
or
view
it
by
cable,
television
on
spectrum,
channel
640
or
frontier
channel
15
or
by
the
internet
via
www.tampa.gov
livestream.
I
The
public
is
also
able
to
participate
in
this
meeting
during
public
comment
for
a
maximum
of
three
minutes
per
speaker
either
here
in
person
in
city
council
chambers
are
virtually
by
way
of
communication,
media
technology
or
cmt.
However,
the
use
of
cnp
does
require
pre-registration
with
the
city
clerk's
office.
Directions
for
pre-registration
are
included
in
the
notice
of
the
meeting
and
on
the
agenda.
I
Members
of
the
public
may
also
participate
in
quasi-judicial
matters
on
this
agenda,
either
remotely
by
seeing
also
by
cmp,
but
cell
phones
and
smartphones
are
not
compatible
as
they
will
not
allow
your
camera.
When
connected,
you
must
have
access
to
a
cmt
device
such
as
a
tablet
or
computer
equipped
with
a
camera
and
a
microphone
that
will
enable
you
to
be
able
to
be
seen
both
seen
and
heard
by
city
council
and
all
other
participants
in
the
quasi-judicial
matter.
I
Can
I
please
have
a
motion
waiting
to
see
council
senate
rules
to
allow
public
comment
and
appearance
by
city,
administrative
staff
and
the
public
via
cmt?
We.
B
H
I
want
to
officially
welcome
my
new
legislative
aide.
This
is
ct
harris.
She
comes
from
a
wealth
of
knowledge
and
she's
already
hit
the
ground
running,
so
council
want
to
introduce
you
to
some
now
to
all
ms
c.t
harris.
B
H
H
And
jorge
is
one
of
my
at
work
workers.
Apparently
he
works
in
the
fire,
marshal's
division
and
again,
let
me
just
read
a
few
things
in
recognition
over
here
in
henderson
hernandez,
the
18th
employee
of
the
month
for
your
hard
work
and
dedication
as
a
fleet.
Minister
iii,
with
the
temple
fire
rescue
maintenance
division
jorge
began
his
career
with
the
city
of
tampa
in
2012..
H
K
H
You
want
a
good
running
vehicle
to
get
there
and
fire
depends
on
those
vehicles
to
be
up
to
the
par.
So
if
you
the
mechanic
working
on
them,
I
praise
you,
because
I
mean
I
tell
you
getting
greasy
and
getting
grimy
and
getting
back
to
work.
These
guys
will
praise
you
for
that.
So
again
for
your
hard
work
and
dedication.
H
You
know
the
city
council
of
tampa
is
proud
to
present
the
accommodation
to
ori
who
exemplifies
the
type
of
employee,
who
everyone
admires,
respect
and
cheers
to
success.
You
are
a
great
asset
to
the
city
of
tampa.
I
say.
Thank
you.
Congratulations
to
you!
I'm
going
to
see
the
simon
come
over
and
talk.
L
George
hernandez
is
a
professional,
veteran
technician,
nearing
20
years
well,
actually
he's
just
crossed
over
his
20-year
mark
to
the
city
of
town
and
specifically
within
tampa
fire
rescue
maintenance.
Mr
hernandez
works
countless
hours
and
at
times
under
extreme
conditions
on
all
aspects
of
tampa
fire
rescue's
marine
vessels
from
small
10
horsepower
outboard
engines
to
the
state-of-the-art
fb1.
The
patriot,
which
is
a
32
000,
horsepower
fire
rescue
ship.
He
does
it
all.
L
We
thank
you
for
all
that
you
do
day
in
and
day
out.
We
appreciate
all
of
your
contributions
towards
keeping
the
city
of
tampa
running
and
I
would
like
to
present
to
you
a
letter
from
the
mayo
and,
if
you
don't
mind,
I'd
like
to
read
that:
okay,
all
right
dear
george,
congratulations
on
being
selected
as
the
amalgamated
transit
union's
employee
of
the
month
for
your
professionalism,
strong
work,
ethics,
leadership
and
for
going
above
and
beyond
in
all
aspects
in
your
position
as
a
fleet.
L
Mechanic,
too,
you
have
demonstrated
such
a
firm
commitment
and
high
standards
from
your
hire
date
in
august
of
2002
and
your
dedication
as
a
member
of
tampa
fire
rescue
maintenance,
ensuring
marine
vessels
and
fire
apparatus
are
in
optimum
working
order,
has
earned
you
the
respect
of
your
superiors
and
peers
alike.
You
can
see
he's
loved
you're
well
known
as
someone
who
is
willing
to
do
whatever
it
takes
in
making
sure
the
five
boats
are
in
outstanding
condition,
so
they
are
ready
and
able
to
protect
our
citizens
and
our
city.
L
No
doubt
your
attention
to
detail
and
commitment
has
contributed
to
saving
lives
and
property.
In
many
instances
you
are
an
integral
part
of
the
city's
mission
of
providing
superior
services,
and
your
abilities,
proficiency
and
outstanding
attitude
make
you
highly
deserving
of
this
special
recognition.
L
You
are
an
asset
to
the
city
of
tampa
the
logistics
and
asset
management
department,
tampa
fire
rescue
and
to
our
community.
You
are
admired,
well
respected
and
set
a
shining
example
for
others
to
follow.
It
is
employees,
like
you,
george,
that
make
me
proud
to
serve
as
mayor.
Thank
you
for
your
dedication
and
service
sincerely
mayor
jane
now,
also
I'd
like
director
of
logistics
and
asset
management,
department,
adri
kalina,
to
say
a
few
words.
Please.
H
N
M
L
And
council,
if
I
may,
I'd
also
like
to
bring
up
deputy
administrative
infrastructure,
sal
rizer
rogerio,
to
say
a
few
words.
K
Morning,
council,
I
just
want
to
echo
what
everybody's
saying,
but
I
want
you
to
know
that
we
did
assess
fire
fleet
and,
as
a
result,
we're
going
to
send
two
more
mechanics
over
there
october
1st
to
help
with
the
backlog
and
getting
these
trucks
out,
and
we
want
to
beef
up
that
unit
so
october
1st
they
get
two
more
mechanics
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
that
councilman
I.
H
Didn't
mean
to
talk
your
name,
they
should
have
told
me
when
I
see
that
spelling,
I
I
think,
of
the
spanish
way
you
know
automatically
you
know,
but
I
know
we
have
some
goodies,
then
we'll
get
counsel
to
feel
the
words.
Let
me
find
come
on.
First,
you
know,
gentlemen,
I
always
believe
in
fairness
and
equity,
and
for
many
years
our
police
and
fire
have
received
the
game
ball.
Yes,
sir,
that
will
happen.
No
more.
H
The
atu
will
get
a
game
ball,
because
when
I
used
to
be
a
police
officer,
these
guys
are
out
there
setting
up
roads,
doing
certain
things
for
events.
They
deserve
the
same
across
the
board.
So
officially
today
the
bucklands
will
be
giving
a
game
ball
to
all
general
employees
as
well,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
being
welcome.
Thank
you
very
much
for
bringing
us
congratulations.
M
Mentioned
when
he
brought
this
award
to
my
attention,
we
appreciate
the
behind
the
scenes
efforts
as
well,
and
we
have
a
tradition
at
one
buck.
Anybody
that
goes
over
and
above
gets
a
game
ball.
So
here's
a
little
souvenir
for
you,
sir.
Thank
you
so
much
thank.
L
M
M
Q
On
behalf
of
the.
M
I
I
H
M
You
know
here
we
go
good
morning:
council
miranda,
hilton
with
steps
towing
on
behalf
of
todd
steps
in
the
steps
towing
family.
Thank
you
for
all.
You
do
and
we'd
like
to
present
you
with
a
gift
card
to
the
outback,
steakhouse
restaurant.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
L
M
R
Thanks
so
much
for
all
you
do,
I'm
sorry,
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
meet
you
if
you
ever
need
anything.
Let
me
know
but
look
forward
to
supporting
you
and
all
the
great
efforts
that
you're
doing.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
all
the
work
that
you
do.
It's
a
great
honor
to
be
honored
as
the
atu
employee,
and
it's
it's
obvious
by
your
your
charisma,
your
demeanor
and
and
the
many
people
that
have
showed
up
here
for
you
that
you
do
great
work
and
that
people
support
you
and
that's
what's
important.
So
thank
you
for
all
that
you
do,
and
god
bless
you.
Thank
you.
A
E
Your
team,
so
we
appreciate
it
because
if
it
wasn't
for
you,
you've
heard
it
from
everybody
else.
You
know
we
we
wouldn't
be
moving
forward
and
efficiently.
So
thank
you
for
all
that.
You
do.
Congratulations
very
well
deserved
and
councilwoman
hertag.
D
Congratulations
on
20
years
and
being
chosen
as
the
look
the
atutu
local
employee
of
the
month.
We,
we
absolutely
appreciate
everything
you
do,
and
I
love
these
because
I
learn
more
about
how
the
city
runs
and
it
is
true.
We
absolutely
couldn't
do
it
without
you
and
I
I
was.
We
were
all
wondering
why
why
the
fire
department
was
here.
This
morning
we
were
like.
Oh
my
gosh.
We
don't
have
a
accommodation
for
them
today,
but
they
they
showed
up
for
you,
and
I
think
that
speaks
volumes.
D
So
thank
you
for
everything
you've
done.
I
know
that
the
city
of
tampa
really
appreciate
your
work
and
everyone
here
who's
come
to
to
support.
You
does
as
well.
Thank
you.
S
Councilman
miranda.
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
mr
hernandez.
Thank
you
very
much
for
everything
you
do
you
keep
things
running
like
simon,
says,
and
evidently
you
and
I
are
keeping
the
barbers
very,
very
thin,
yeah.
S
M
B
Great
great
station
takes
takes
care
of
the
moving
parts,
takes
care
of
the
fires
and
and
the
emergencies.
Thank
you
for
all
the
work
you've
done,
but
more
especially
as
you
look
around
this
room.
Thank
you
for
being
part
of
the
family.
That
is
the
city
of
tampa.
Thank
you
for
all
your
work.
Yes,
sir.
M
C
Mr
chairman,
it's
a
great
pleasure
to
do
the
officer
of
the
month
here
for
officer
jorge
tamargo.
We're
going
to
have
chief
o'connor
talk
a
little
bit
about
this
fine
gentleman's
background.
It's
always
the
pleasure
of
tampa
city
council
to
honor.
Our
police
officers
under
the
officer
of
the
month
program
is
a
very
small
gesture
of
appreciation,
sincere
appreciation
for
what
they
do.
C
It's
a
level
of
appreciation
that
we
do
with
representatives
of
the
people
of
the
city
of
tampa
who
overwhelmingly
strongly
support
our
police
officers
in
the
work
that
they
do
every
single
day.
This
is
something
that
we
do
that
reflects
the
values
of
the
people
who
we
have
the
honor
of
representing,
who
support
our
first
responders,
including
those
police
officers
who
every
single
day
put
their
life
in
danger
to
protect
us
and
none
greater
than
officer
tamargo
here.
So
I
will
introduce
chief
o'connor,
who
will
come
and
say
some
background
on
this.
Fine
young
gentleman.
O
Good
morning,
city
council,
chief
mary
o'connor,
here
with
officer
george
tamargo,
he's
a
seven
year
veteran
of
the
tampa
police
department,
and
I
just
want
to
highlight
a
few
things
that
he's
done
to
deserve
this
fine
recognition.
Today,
since
february
2021
officer,
george
tamargo
has
been
assigned
to
street
anti-crimes
squad
number
331
in
district
3..
During
the
month
of
may,
2022
officer,
tamargo
has
played
an
integral
part
in
the
crime
fight,
while
displaying
the
ability
to
multitask
during
high
stress
situations
while
requiring
minimal
supervision
officer.
O
Tamargo
is
self-motivating
and
constantly
reaches
out
to
his
units
to
assist
with
latent
investigations
and
follow-ups.
He
has
also
developed
a
rapport
with
several
citizens
in
district
3
that
reach
out
to
him
daily.
Some
of
the
notable
arrests
during
the
month
of
may
2022
for
officer
tamargo
include
the
following.
O
On
may
9th
officer,
tamargo
attempted
a
traffic
stop
for
an
equipment
violation
and
the
vehicle
fled.
During
this
investigation
officer,
tamargo
was
able
to
develop,
leads
for
the
suspect,
driver
and
locate
the
vehicle
which
he
found
abandoned
officer.
Tamargo
and
his
partner
set
up
surveillance,
witnessed
the
driver
coming
back
to
the
vehicle
and
was
subsequently
arrested
without
incident.
A
search
of
the
vehicle
revealed
felony
amounts
of
narcotics
along
with
a
firearm.
O
In
addition,
the
firearm
used
during
the
offense
was
recovered
during
the
foot
chase
of
the
suspects
officer,
tamargo
was
able
to
interview
the
victim
in
this
case
and
through
latent
investigative
techniques,
was
able
to
identify.
The
third
suspect
this
suspect
was
from
out
of
state.
So
the
officer
reached
out
to
the
louisiana
police
department
to
obtain
a
photo
of
the
suspect.
O
O
O
C
Thank
you
very
much
chief.
We
appreciate
that
so
before
we
proceed
with
the
goodies
and
and
we
see
we
have
some
family
members-
hey,
what's
your
name,
buddy
or
oh,
you
could
have
said
his
name.
I'm
sorry
trey!
Well
a
nice
kid!
God
bless
him
nice,
but
we
it's
our
great
honor
to
present
to
officer
jorge
tamargo,
the
tampa
city
council
commendation
for
officer
of
the
month.
This
is
something
that
goes
to
him
and
to
his
wonderful
family
that
supports
him
in
his
job.
C
J
This
award,
I'm
just
the
representative
of
this
award,
I'm.
J
In
and
around
east
tampa
and
helping
keep
that
community
safe,
I
would
ask
the
council
and
anybody
else
here,
just
one
favor
before
I
finish.
C
My
remarks
when.
C
J
Typical,
thank
you
for
your
service,
but
a
sincere
thank
you
for
what
they.
C
Do
and
understanding
of
of
how
they
put
their
life
on
the
line
every
day
and
how
they
they
help
the
city
of
tampa.
Thank
you.
C
So,
and
it
is
our
pleasure
now
to
have
members
of
the
community
come
forward
and
express
their
great
appreciation
to
officer
tomorrow,
and
I
wanted
to
build
on
what
he
said.
I
always
tell
whenever
I
talk
to
officers
and
firefighters
always
say
that
they
run
into
situations
that
people
like
me
run
away
from
and
that's
and
I
always
think
that's
a
good,
adequate
description
of
what
happens
so.
Q
O
Miranda,
hilton
from
steps
towing
on
behalf
of
todd's
death
and
the
steps
towing
family.
We
thank
you
for
all
you.
Do
we
have
a
gift
card
to
a
restaurant,
for
you,
as
well
as
a
five-hour
limousine
service
for
you
and
18
of
your
closest
friends
to
enjoy
a
night
out
on
us.
So
thank
you
again,
very
much
for
all.
You
do.
P
M
M
You
guys
all
rock
but
you're,
very
special
to
have
this
distinguished
honor
and
so
take
it
to
your
heart,
enjoy
it
with
your
family,
we're
here
to
present
you
with
an
annual
membership
to
do
tampa,
and
I
hope
you
and
your
family
love
it
and
have
fun
and
come
to
love
animals
as
much
as
mark,
and
I
do.
M
The
annual
pass
also
comes
with
admission
to
things
like
the
upcoming
halloween
events
and
the
christmas
in
the
wild
events
and
all
kinds
of
fun
things
that
I
hope
you
enjoy
and
that
you
join
our
mission
of
saving
animals
like
you
save
human
lives.
So,
thanks
again,
congratulations.
M
Good
morning,
on
behalf
of
tampa
theater,
I'm
honored
to
give
you
the
gift
of
a
membership.
So
you
can
come
and
visit
us
on
the
ranch
street,
maybe
a
date
night
with
your
wife
and
candy
for
the
little
one.
So
thank.
G
M
You're
running
around
in
hands
steve
michelini,
I'd
like
to
congratulate
you
for
your
service
to
the
city
and
its
citizens
on
behalf
of
the
meat
market
in
old
hyde
park.
We're
providing
you
with
a
gift
certificate
enjoy
yourself
over
there
for
lunch
or
dinner.
On
behalf
of
chicho's
restaurant
group,
breakfast
lunch
or
dinner
on
behalf
of
bella
brava
at
midtown
and.
A
M
S
R
Thanks
so
much
for
your
thanks
to
you
and
your
family
for
all
your
dedication
and
service,
and
now
more
than
ever,
we
need
your
help
and
protection,
and
you
know
the
sign
of
a
great
leader
is
that
they're
willing
to
give
credit
to
others,
so
we
all
see
that
look
forward
to
seeing
you
in
in
higher
level
leadership
sometime
in
the
future.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
E
Very
well
deserved,
thank
you
for
your
sacrifice
and
your
service,
and
thank
you
to
your
family
and
speaking
of
family.
I
know
that
tamar
goes
well.
I
see
cynthia
right
there,
who's
been
a
longtime
friend
of
my
mother's.
You
come
from
a
great
family,
well
respected
in
the
community
in
west
tampa.
So
thank
you
for
what
you
do
and
thank
you
to
your
family
for
for
everything
that
they
do
very
well
deserved.
Sir,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
How's.
The
woman
heard
attack.
D
I
know
that
the
community
supports
you
taking
the
guns
off
the
street,
and
I
I
really
love
to
hear
about
your
creativity
and
the
ability
to
go
above
and
beyond
and
do
things
with
the
support
of
your
superiors,
but
not
needing
the
hand-holding.
I
think
that
is
a
great
sign
of
a
true
leader
to
come.
So
congratulations.
H
Sac
squad,
I
brought
that
back.
Yes,
sir,
about
the
sex
one
back
in
the
brief
that
was
given,
I
heard
king's
market
eyesore
of
22nd
street
corridor,
so
I
know
the
work
that
has
to
be
done
on
that
corridor
and
on
lake
avenue.
H
So
thank
you
for
your
work.
I'm
I'm
prayerful
with
the
new
economic
development
officer
that
we'll
be
able
to
get
some
development
on
lake
avenue
that
brings
that
liquor,
store
and
kings
meat
market
at
that
strip
and
change
that
mall
some
good
housing
and
really
give
an
impact
to
22nd
street
and
lake
avenue.
So
thank
you
for
your
service.
Thank
you,
sir.
S
Councilman
miranda,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Again,
the
demarco
family
is
very
well
known.
I
remember
not
many
years
well
a
lot
of
years
back.
There
was
a
kid
pitching
it
well
at
west
tampa.
I
don't
know
if
it's
part
of
your
family,
kid
named
tamargo
and
he
led
in
everything.
So
I
don't
know
whatever
happened.
I
don't
pay
any
more
ball
after
that,
but
I
know
he
was
a
fantastic
ball
player,
but
that's
not
to
say
what
you
have
done
is
unbelievable.
S
S
F
S
S
When
billy
the
kid
was
out
there
fighting
in
the
west
doing
whatever
he
wanted
to
do.
This
is
society
supposed
to
be
better.
I
don't
know
what
the
problem
is.
If
I
did,
we
could
solve
it.
I
don't
think
anyone
knows
what
the
problem
is,
but
it's
a
combination
of
many
things,
including
when
you're
born
or
you
see
on
tv,
is
violence.
All
you
see
on
your
cell
phone
is
violence.
It
becomes,
I
guess,
part
of
the
norm.
S
B
B
When
myself
and
my
girlfriend
go
around
to
the
things
that
we
do,
I
walk
up
to
every
officer
and
I
shake
their
hand
and
they'll
usually
respond
councilman.
How
you
doing
joseph,
how
you
doing
my
girlfriend
will
say.
Do
you
know
every
police
officer
in
tampa?
I
say
not
yet,
but
I
am
going
to
meet
everyone
and
thank
them,
and
the
last
thing
I
say
to
them
is:
have
a
safe
day
officer
demargo.
Thank
you.
Thank
your
family.
C
B
B
B
B
B
Technical
assistance
and
local
governments
and
meetings
needs
of
the
community
is
what
the
tampa
regional
strives
for
support:
economic
development,
energy
preparedness,
natural
resources,
regional
transportation,.
B
B
They
are
also,
I
see
a
good
friend
in
the
back,
also
with
the
courtney
campbell,
causeway
scenic
highway
trail
and
approving
it
and
making
it
safer
for
the
people
to
visit
there
and
for
the
trail
and
for
the
commute.
So
mr
sullivan
is
here
representing
the
tampa
bay,
regional
planning,
council
and
I'd
like
to
say
this.
B
B
They
are
recognized
as
florida's
only
multi-purpose
regional
entity
providing
technical
assistance
to
local
governments
and
meeting
the
needs
of
the
community.
The
tampa
bay
regional
planning
council
is
strategic
regional
policy
plan
required
by
florida
statutes,
which
includes
economic
development,
emergency
preparedness,
natural
resources,
regional
transportation,
affordable
housing.
The
tampa
city
council
is
proud
to
recognize
your
our
60th
anniversary,
as
well
as
your
excellent
contributions
to
the
quality
of
life
for
the
citizens
of
tampa
bay
region.
On
this
day,
the
25th
of
august
2022.
M
Good
morning,
thank
you,
chair
cedro
members
of
city
council
for
60
years.
The
regional
planning
council
has
really
worked
to
convene
the
region
as
recently
as
yesterday,
we
were
advised
that
the
florida
department
of
environmental
protection
has
awarded
a
resiliency
grant
in
partnership
with
the
regional
planning
council
with
the
city
of
tampa
on
september,
8th,
we
are
hosting
an
emergency
management
awareness
event
if
you
will,
at
port,
tampa
bay
with
the
coast
guard
along
with
the
hillsborough
and
tampa
fire
departments.
M
So
we
continue
to
do
our
work.
As
the
councilman
mentioned,
we're
from
citrus
county
down
to
manatee
county,
we
have
3.8
million
people,
5
000
square
miles,
the
fifth
largest
economy
in
the
united
states,
and
if
this
region
were
its
own
region,
it
would
have
the
55th
largest
economy
in
the
world.
So,
as
I
like
to
say,
the
tampa
bay
region
is
a
region
to
be
reckoned
with,
and
it's
with
great
honor
and
distinction.
M
M
Great,
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
sean
and
his
team
are
an
invaluable
resource
to
city
of
tampa
staff
planning
department.
Our
resiliency
initiatives
would
really
we
would
have
not
accomplished
a
lot.
We
would
have
been
able
to
do
without
the
support
and
the
partnership
of
the
regional
planning
council.
So
thank
you,
sean
for
you,
you
and
your
staff
for
all
you
do
for
us.
Thank
you.
R
Thank
you
to
you
and
your
organization
for
all.
You
do
I'm
a
huge
proponent
of
regionalism
and
you
know
citizens,
don't
don't
see
boundaries,
they
don't
know
where
our
council
districts
are
most
people,
don't
know
where
the
city
limits
are,
and
most
people
don't
know
where
the
county
lines
are
and
if
you
want
to
see
the
impact
of
regionals
and
look
at
the
bridges
every
day,
they're
busy
in
both
directions-
and
we
know
that
275,
as
one
of
our
colleagues
was
stuck
the
other
day,
275
is
backed
up
all
the
time.
R
E
Thank
you
very
much.
Congratulations
on
60
years
and,
like
you
said,
let's
you
know
we
look
forward
to
the
next
60
years
of
partnership
and
collaboration
throughout
the
entire
region.
E
We
lift
one
another
up,
we
stay
resilient
become
more
resilient
and
together
we
build
a
brighter
future
for
everyone.
So
thank
you
for
your
work.
Thank
you
to
chairman
citro
who
serves
on
that
board.
I
was
there
briefly,
but
we
appreciate
the
dedication
of
the
of
the
chairman
and
working
with
our
other
partners.
Congratulations,
sir.
D
I
also
wanna
echo
your
congratulations.
What
what
the
regional
planning
council
does
in
allowing
for
all
of
us
to
come
together
and
learn
from
one
another
and
share
our
successes
and
talk
about
things
that
that
impact
us
all
regionally
is
is
critical,
and
I
don't
think
that
any
of
our
communities
would
be
as
successful
without
it,
especially
economically.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
the
work
that
you
do
and
for
being,
especially
as
mr
benson
mentioned
a
wonderful
resource
for
the
city
of
tampa.
We
really
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
H
Well,
thank
you
for
60
years,
you
know
times
are
changing
and
they're
going
to
continue
to
change,
so
I'm
hoping
that
we
look
at
the
new
ideas
for
those
low
socioeconomic
areas
to
bring
them
up
to
standards
like
other
areas.
So
I'm
hoping
that
the
the
strive
moving
forward
and
moving
the
train
to
a
different
level
will
be
different.
So
again,
thank
you
for
the
work
you've
been
doing
for
60
years.
Thank
you.
S
Yes,
sir,
thank
you,
mr
vice
chairman.
Again,
congratulations
to
your
organization
60
years,
so
it
had
to
be
some
time
in
the
mid
60s
when
you
started,
I
guess
and
when
you
look
at
those
things
I
I
sit
back
and
I
left
it
myself.
I
wonder
what
a
gallon
of
milk
talk
costs
then
wonder
what
a
spare
tire
costs.
S
S
When
you
look
at
the
colorado
river,
when
you
look
at
the
rivers
of
the
rhine,
when
you
look
at
the
problems
in
poland,
when
you
look
at
our
own
areas
that
we
have
in
california
and
things
of
that
nature,
you
understand,
we
should
all
understand
it's,
not
a
joke
anymore.
It's
reality.
Thank
you
very
much
for
what
you
guys
do.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
I
B
I
Danielle
there
was
an
addendum
to
the
agenda
that
noted
that
there
were
several
items.
B
I
There's
there's
no
one,
I
don't
believe
here
generating
staff,
but
there
was
an
addendum
that
came
to
the
agenda
where
there
were
two
or
three
things
I
think
pulled
by
individual
council
members
for
discussion,
and
generally
we
run
through
the
staff
items
to
determine
whether
any
of
those
items
need
that,
whether
memo
sufficed
or
whether
you
needed
staff
present
for
those
items
so.
B
I
B
I
R
Mr
chair,
I
these
these
the
first
three
items:
five,
six
and
seven.
If
you
add
them
together,
are
260
million
plus
and
and
that's
not
including
interest.
It's
several
hundred
million
dollars
in
items.
We
each
had
short
briefings
this
week
and
the
public
has
not
had
a
chance
to
hear
this
before.
I
was
told
by
staff
that
the
public
had
heard
some
about
it,
but
I've
got.
R
I
pulled
the
transcripts
from
the
meetings
they
said
it
was
presented
and
it
was
only
references
that
there
would
be
an
item
coming
up.
We.
This
is
one
of
the
largest
items
we've
ever
approved
in
the
city.
A
couple
years
ago
we
approved
this
transfer
from
the
private
company
to
the
city,
and
I
never
made
a
motion,
but
I
asked
several
times
for
them
to
give
us
an
update
on
it.
We've
not
had
an
update
in
that
time.
R
R
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
that
we
continue
at
least
five
six
seven,
maybe
the
other
two
items
but
go
ahead
and
hear
the
presentation
today.
I
think
we
should
continue
the
vote
on
the
my
motion
is
to
continue
the
vote
on
these
budget
items
until
september
1st,
so
that
the
public
will
have
a
chance
to
weigh
in
and
then
in
the
future.
R
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
later
that
we
make
sure
that
we
have
at
least
two
hearings
on
items
above
a
certain
dollar
limit,
because
the
public
has
a
ch
has
we
have
a
duty
to
let
the
public
listen
to
this
understand
it
weigh
in.
B
R
Asking
that
my
motion
is
to
have
them
present
these,
but
continue
I'm
not
finished,
but
continue
these
items
not
hear
them
and
then
continue.
I'm
asking
to
continue
them
now
until
september
first,
but
to
hear
the
presentation
today.
R
One
week
correct,
yeah
and,
and
if
I
could,
the
staff
says
that
it's
urgent,
because
it
takes
52
weeks
to
get
this
equipment,
and
my
response
is:
why
didn't
you
tell
us
this
a
year
ago
or
two
years
ago?
Why
is
it?
I
don't
know
if
you've
all
seen,
but
lately
we've
had
millions
of
dollars
of
items
coming
for
us
that
are
urgent,
that
we
have
to
approve
immediately,
and
the
public
deserves
a
right
to
review
this
and
give
input
on
it.
R
Remember
hannah
avenue
it
was
two
weeks
after
we
voted
on
it
that
someone
from
the
public
informed
us
that
it
wasn't
put
out
for
bid,
and
so
it
it
if
they
have
to
wait
53
weeks
to
get
the
equipment
fine,
they
should
have
come
to
us
before.
C
And-
and
so
so
I
mean
we
can
hear
from
the
administration
on
this,
if
it
is
no
prejudice,
no
backlog
issues,
if
there
is
then
I
would
be
inclined
to
vote
against
it,
but
if
there
isn't,
I
would
be
inclined
to
vote
for
it
as
a
courtesy
but
justice.
My.
I
B
B
H
Those
are
the
kind
of
questions
I
did
ask
staff.
You
know
why
I
was
in
the
ninth
hour,
so
I
can
understand
where
mr
carlson
is
coming
from,
that
we
have
to
stop
this
ninth
hour
of
bringing
things
to
council,
especially
these
high
dollar
amounts,
and
then
rushing
us
to
make
a
decision,
so
I
can
agree
with
his
second
part
as
far
as
a
future
motion
that
that
stopped
happening,
because
it
seems
to
be
a
trend
and
we
just
can't
let
that
happen-
these
are
high
dollar
amounts.
H
I
know
the
need
for
solid
waste.
I
understand
that
I'm
bored
with
that.
You
know
I
get
that,
but
I
think
in
the
future,
like
you're
saying
it
needs
to
be
a
motion
for
to
stop
this
type
of
glory
of
dollar
amounts
coming
at
the
last-minute
tools
to
review.
Thank
you,
sir.
B
S
S
S
If
you
think
that's
easy,
it
is
not,
and
when
you
look
at
what
we're
talking
about
one
week,
maybe
not
hurt,
but
what
we're
running
on
is
on
fumes
over
there.
If
that
turbine
goes
down,
if
that
turbine
goes
down
its
solid
waste
you're
going
to
remember
for
the
rest
of
your
life,
what
one
week
is,
I'm
not
against
it,
but
I'm
just
putting
notice
now
that
that
turbine
is
of
age.
S
R
R
We
were
all
briefed
the
other
day
and
I'm
not
going
to
ask
you
all
these
questions,
but
the
public
is
not
even
really
aware
that
this
is
on
the
agenda
today,
they're
looking
at
other
things,
but
I,
but
I
would
ask
you
to
ask
yourselves:
do
you
know
what
the
annual
cost
is
of
this
plant?
Do
you
know
what
the
revenue
is
for
the
generation
of
electricity
and
that
they're
selling
to
semi-electric?
R
Do
you
know
what
the
alternative
is?
If,
if
this,
I
presume
that
they
would
shut
this
turbine
down
before
it,
for
something
catastrophic
happens,
and
the
alternative
is
that
they
put
it
in
a
landfill,
but
we've
never
had
a
full
discussion
on
the
the
environmental
impacts
of
putting
in
landfill
versus
the
air
pollution.
Do
you
did
you
all
ask
the
questions
about
what
air
pollution
standards
that
they
have
did?
R
Do
you
know
what
they
do
with
the
waste,
the
the
dust
and
other
heavy
materials
that
that
come
from
it?
Where
do
they
dispose
that?
Do
you
know
the
cost
of
interest
of
this
plant?
Do
you
know
that
the
total
cost
of
this
plant
over
three
years,
including
o
m
interest
and
capital,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
that
that
are
here?
R
And
if
you
have
all
those
questions,
the
question
is:
does
the
public
know
the
public
has
not
had
a
chance
to
hear
this,
because
today
is
the
first
time
they're
going
to
hear
it
and
if
we
vote
on
it
today,
I
think
it's
a
disservice
to
the
public.
We
need
to
give
them
really
two
weeks
but
a
week
at
a
minimum.
Thank
you.
C
E
Yes
and
they'll
have
a
presentation:
follow-up
as
well.
Councilman.
D
S
S
He
said
once
you
go
to
home
depot,
see
if
you
can
sell
it
guess
what
that's
what
the
fertilizing
for
many
years.
I
know
it
stopped
now,
some
years
back
at
the
stop,
because
other
products
come
on
the
line,
but
that
citrus
nitrate
stuff
that
we
were
throwing
away,
became
what
the
people
were
doing
the
lawns
with.
S
So
there
is
progress
there,
but
it's
not
being
used
so
it's
facilitated
and
when
you
talk
about
the
seminal
electric
contract,
two
council
members
objected
to
it.
We
had
a
sweetheart
deal,
not
that
I
say
it.
That's
what
the
people
in
the
commission
set
up
in
tallahassee
when
someone
appealed
that
we
had
a
better
deal
than
somebody
else,
so
we
had
to
send
the
transmission
line.
S
They
told
us
we
could
sell
the
transmission
line
and
tico
also
do
the
other
services
and
we
had
to
sell,
take
that
back
from
tico
and
sell
it
to
seminole
heights
seminole
electric
for
a
lesser
rate.
If
you
don't
believe
me
check
the
record,
if
my
mind
is
still
in
in
order
like,
I
believe
it
is
so
look
at
that,
so
the
citizens
of
tampa
lost
many
millions
of
dollars,
because
two
council
members
objected
somebody
heard
it
and
appealed
to
the
board
up
in
tallahassee.
Thank
god
that
you
guys
are
still
surviving.
Thank
you.
B
D
From
my
understanding
two
weeks
ago,
this
was
16
million
dollars
for
item
number-
five.
Yes,
so
I'm
I
do
think
there
is
a
a
time
issue
with
this.
I
don't
know
if
we
can
wait
on
six
and
seven
to
here.
I
don't
know
how
that
we
can
uncouple
that
if
that's
possible,
because
I
do
agree
with
you-
the
public
needs
to
to
know
about
this,
but
I
do
also
believe
that
there's
time
sensitivity,
so
I
I
see
both
sides,
but
I
can.
D
I
just
don't
know
if
we're
fine
with
you
know
18
million
dollars
next
week,
then
then
that
is
fine.
Mr.
P
Mr
chair,
if,
if
I
may
offer
some
clarification
shortly-
and
I
don't
want
to
get
ahead
of
the
presentation
but
further
to
councilwoman
hertag's
comment,
what
we're
asking
for
today,
the
immediate
need
is
the
17
million
dollars
we'd
like
to
enter
into
a
contract
and
we'd
like
to
move
some
funding
within
solid
waste
to
accommodate
that
17
million
you're
quite
right
a
couple
weeks
ago
it
was
16
million
we're
in
a
volatile
environment
as
we've
characterized
it
in
our
briefings.
P
The
220
million
again
is
the
reimbursement
resolution
for
the
ultimate
plan,
but
we're
not
asking
council
to
approve
a
220
million
dollar
plan
today,
we're
merely
educating
council
and
the
public
on
what
this
could
eventually
lead
to.
When
we
do
the
bulk
of
the
waste
to
energy
facility,
when
we
do
the
relocation,
if
we
do
the
relocation,
those
are
all
decisions
that
city
council
will
have
to
make,
including
the
issuance
of
debt.
Mr
master.
I
Just
just
briefly,
I
mean
really
all
we're
talking
about.
Is
your
agenda
and
making
changes
to
your
agenda
at
this
point
in
time
we're
not
supposed
to
be
getting
in
a
substantive
conversation
about
these
issues,
so
I
believe
the
more
prudent
thing
to
do
is:
let's
figure
out
what
needs
to
be
altered
on
your
agenda.
Hear
the
substance
of
this,
then
you
can
vote
whether
you
want
to
move
forward
on
it
today
or
not
or
delay
it
at
that
point
in
time.
I
really
think
that's
the
more
cruising
thing
today
tell.
R
I
would
draw
my
motion
and
bring
it
back
later.
B
B
B
And
we
will
be
opening
eleven
and
twelve.
At
the
same
time,.
I
B
Yes
and
they
will
be
opened
again
together,
13,
yes,
yes,
14.
C
With
if
I
may,
with
14,
I
made
that
I
think
I
made
that
a
little
prematurely.
I
want
to
continue
that
what
I
want
to
first
see
I
want
to
do
this
after
we
pass
the
returning
citizens
ordinance
and
the
training
apprenticeship
program.
So
if
I
may,
I'm
going
to
remove
14
and
then
make
it
at
a
later
time,
once
this
ordinance
that
we
hopefully
passed
today
on
second
reading
for
returning
citizens
passes
just
for
the
sake
of
time,
promotion.
B
Made
by
councilman
vieira
seconded
by
councilman
carlson,
all
in
favor
any
opposed.
Thank
you.
I'm
agenda
number
15.
and.
C
Also,
if
I
made
mr
chair
for
item
number
15,
the
chief
bennett
spoke
on
this.
I
think
it
was
last
week
or
the
week
before,
and
it
appears
that
this
is
going
to
be
in
the
budget.
So
I
do
not
need
anybody
here
from
that.
We
can
just
take
it
as
it
is
and
go
forward.
C
I
can
we
can
just
speak
about
it
when
it
comes.
I
don't
think
we
need
anyone
here
for
that.
F
R
Statement
on
it,
councilman
carlson,
you
know
in
in
these
discussions
and
we've
asked
if
there's
coverage
and
the
answer
is
yes,
it's
it's
privately
managed
above
500,
000,
privately
insured
below
500
000
were
self-insured.
I
had
a
meeting
with
the
the
the
risk
management
consultants
and
the
team
yesterday
and
it
we're
not
that
we
don't
have
a
policy
under
500
000,
there's
no
self-insurance
a
self-insurance
policy,
as
described
by
my
experience
but
also
by
by
the
consultants,
is
that
you
would
have
a
policy.
R
The
united
healthcare
plan
that
we
have
is
a
self-insured
plan,
but
we
have
a
policy
there's
no
policy
under
500
000,
so
it's
at
the
anything
below
500
000
is
the
sole
discretion
of
the
city
attorney,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
here.
I
can't
talk
to
you
about
you
all
about
it
outside
this
meeting,
but
any
ideas
you
have
from
your
consultants
or
others.
We
need
to
come
up
with
an
idea.
It
doesn't
mean
that
we
wouldn't
be
protected,
but
we
need
something.
That's
specific!
R
H
B
And
that's
what
we've
already
continued
item
agenda
agenda
item
number
19.
correct.
We
already
took
a
motion
on.
I
B
B
H
J
B
R
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
related
to
this.
If
I
may,
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that,
until
our
city,
council
attorney
returns
that
any
item
that
references
him
would
would
then
be
requested
of
mr
massey
in
in
his
place,
because
we
can't
some
of
these
items,
we
can't
continue
forever.
I
would
just
ask
that
in
the
short
term
that
that
mr
massey
would
take
over
these
items
until
our
attorney
returned.
I
Real
quickly,
could
I
respond
to
that.
I
I
I'm
going
to
speak
to
number
21,
because
I
have
done
some
work
relative
to
that
item
20.
I
had
not
done
anything
primarily
because
I
based
on
the
discussion
at
council.
It
was
my
belief
that
you
all
were
wanting
your
own
attorney
to
look
at
what
a
potential
ordinance
would
look
like.
I'm
I've
done
some
research,
I'm
happy
to
look
at
that,
but
where
I
believe
mr
shelby
will
be
back
by
the
15th
and
should
be
able
to
respond
to
that
we
can
work
with
them
internally.
I
R
So
my
motion
would
be
in,
if
I
may,
in
in
the
absence
of
the
city
council,
attorney
that
mr
massey
or
would
would
work
in
his
place
to
move
forward
items
that
had
been
assigned
to
mr
shelby.
S
S
So,
although
mr
massey
is
sitting
here,
I
would
rather
hire
an
outside
attorney
to
do
this
until
he
comes
on
the
15th
and
15th
we're
talking
about
a
week,
we're
talking
about
what
is
it
four
weeks
or
three
weeks
and
I'm
not
opposed
to
that
to
holding
it
off
another
two
or
three
weeks,
because
what
was
been
going
on
between
this
and
the
eighth
floor,
for
whatever
reason
I'm
not
blaming
anyone.
S
The
doctor
would
tell
you
to
take
some
medicine
because
you're
sick
on
both
floors-
whoever's
at
fault-
I
don't
know-
but
if
you
have
a
bad
heart,
you
don't
go
see
a
urologist.
You
go
see
a
heart
doctor,
so
I
don't
know
if
we're
sick
or
not.
I
don't
know
if
they're,
sick
or
not,
but
I'd
rather
protect
the
public
and
wait
three
more
weeks
until
mr
shelby
gets
here,
because
he
certainly
knew
about
this
wavy
time
before
he
got
sick,
he's
capable
of
doing
his
job.
Thank
you.
Miss
jim.
H
Thought
there
was
a
motion
on
the
floor
to
come
back
and
reference
to
how
we
were
going
to
handle
a
city,
council
attorney
or
bringing
into
a
person
or
having
alternates
whatever
happened
to
that.
That
hasn't
come
back
to
us.
Yet
I.
H
I
think
mr
miranda
is
right,
you
seem
like
you
know.
Sometimes
the
city
attorney
has
two
masters,
but
serves
maybe
one
at
times.
So
I
think
I
I
understand
that
so
I
think
we
need
to
get
some
clarity
on
them.
How
we're
gonna
handle
our
business
here,
who
will
handle
our
business
and
if
and
then,
in
the
absence
of
a
person
who's
going
to
handle
that
business,
so
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
rectify,
get
motions
and
move
that
forward
when
it
comes
back
on
the
15th.
Thank
you,
sir.
Mr
chairman,.
C
You
know
the
the
spirit
behind
emotion,
I
think,
is
very
good,
which
is
there's
items
that
council
members
have
requested
that,
for
whatever
reason
without
getting
into
it,
have
not
gone
forward
because
of
different
issues.
Maybe
if
the
motion
were
amended
to
reflect-
because
I
don't
want
to
mr
massey
god
bless
him
has
been
over
here
covering
for
a
long
time
and
I'm
not
speaking
his
behalf,
etc,
just
my
opinion
probably
taking
on
a
lot
of
work.
Maybe
the
motion
could
be
amended
for
either
mr
messier
to
hire
outside
counsel
to
assist.
C
Should
our
attorney
be
gone
for
a
longer
time
that
I
think,
is
reasonable
and
gets
to
the
heart
of
it,
which
is
council,
members,
have
requests
and
and
and
want
to
see
them
forward.
I
think
that's
the
heart
of
it.
In
my
opinion,.
R
R
If
that
other
item
is
coming
up
soon,
I'll
withdraw
my
motion.
We
just
need
to
resolve
this
because
we
we
we
need
to
have
a
standing
rule.
What
happens
if,
if
our
one
person
is
is
out
and
we
need
to
make
sure
we
have
some
kind
of
backup
in
the
future
and
hopefully
modify
the
charter,
but
in
the
in
the
interim
we
need
we
need
counsel
and
I'm
I'm
I'm
happy
with
it
being
outside
counsel.
We
just
need
to
make
some
kind
of
rule,
because
some
of
these
items
keep
getting
delayed.
R
I
I
believe
this
is
coming
back
on
the
first,
and
so,
if
you
would
allow,
I
would
maybe
a
presentation
and
we
can
try
to
discuss
it.
Then
you
know
how
this
business
will
be
covered,
some
of
it.
I
am
handling,
but
some
of
it
you
may
want
to
have
separate
councils,
so
we
can
have
a
conversational
first
about
those
issues.
B
I
I
I
It
did
not
appear
that
the
current
members
of
the
committee
had
been
formally
appointed,
so
this
resolution
would
appoint
those
members
and
I
also
changed
the
term
of
office
so
that
their
term
would
be
the
same
as
your
term
of
the
office.
So
you
don't
have.
We
don't
have
to
go
through
the
reappointing
every
year
and.
H
I
H
I'm
good
with
that,
sir
yeah,
I'm
good
with
that.
She
she
gave
me
a
call
and
we
worked
out
those
details.
So
we
should
be
fine
and.
C
If
I
may,
mr
chair,
I
move
to
continue
that
we've.
This
is
a
sidewalk
along
9th
street
for
a
neighborhood
that
has
a
home
there
with
about
15
or
so
disabled
veterans
who
badly
need
a
sidewalk
there,
but
the
problem
is
contracting
and
getting
a
contractor
for
such
a
small
project.
So
that's
a
darn
shame.
So
if
I
may,
I
want
to
keep
this
on
the
agenda
as
a
self-reminder
to
myself
to
to
have
this
so
we're
in
september.
So
how
about
we
do
february
of
2023.
I
B
H
Mr
vieira,
you
know,
since
that
is
such
a
small
project,
you
saying
there's
contract
issues
of
taking
a
small
project.
You
know
the
prisons
and
also
the
county.
They
have
workers
that
can
do
those
type
of
small
things.
So
maybe
administrators
can
contact
the
state
or
something
like
that
and
they
can
come
out
and
put
a
little
small
sidewalk
in,
if
that's
the
case,
just
an
idea,
a
thought
pattern.
Yes,.
C
I
C
Let's
do
if
I
may,
the
16th
yes
give
them
some
more
time.
I
It
appears
that
have
been
changed
is
that
councilwoman
hertek
has
asked
that
items.
28,
29
and
72
be
pulled
from
the
consent
agenda
for.
B
Did
I
also
take
note
that
69
and
70,
where
we're
hearing
those
yes.
D
I
T
Mentions
not
tampa
florida,
it's
a
garbage
city
council,
nothing
more.
Nonetheless,
it's
a
garbage
city
council
and
it
proved
itself
just
then
right
now,
270
million
dollars,
and
they
don't
know
what
the
hell
is
going
on
with
it,
and
they
don't
know
what
what
what
what
but
it's
always
been
that
way
for
decades.
I've
been
coming
out
here
for
30
years.
It's
always
been
that
way.
They
just
run
these
things
through
and
the
citizens,
don't
nobody
know.
T
What's
going
on
because
the
city
council
members
they
ain't
that
smart,
it's
not
like,
they're
accountants
or
engineers,
or
scientists,
or
brain
surgeons,
they're,
not
that
smart,
they
got
a
job
and
they
got
elected
on
some
votes
or
whatsoever,
put
up
a
sign
and
got
elected.
But
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
what
we
have
to
realize
is
for
our
district
district
number.
Five.
What
we
have
to
realize
is
our
city,
council,
representative,
male
or
female
boy.
T
Girl
whatsoever
have
to
start
talking
about
real
issues
have
to
start
talking
about
reparations,
have
to
start
talking
this
nonsense.
They
talk
about
bring
these
garbage
police
officers
in
here,
always
talking
negative
about
district
five.
East
tampa
and
gun
violence,
but
our
city
council
person
have
to
say
something
about
gun
manufacturers.
T
We
ain't
having
that
like
blaming
us
blaming
the
black
person,
blaming
the
black
person
trying
to
walk
in
this
door
this
morning
and
the
police
officer
white
police
officer
trying
to
stop
me
because
of
a
shirt
I
got
on.
You
understand.
It's
a
hatred
that
white
people
have
when
they
see
black
people.
They
think
they
run
us,
they
think
they
own
us.
T
They
think
we
slaves
and
then
you
come
in
here
and
you
gave
an
award
to
a
garbage
police
officer
that
his
parents
might
have
been
sitting
right
there
and
what
his
father,
I
think
his
father
tells
me
I'll.
Take
you
outside
and
beat
your
mfn
ass
and
he
said
the
whole
word
and
said
it
about
three
times,
but
he
but
his
son's
getting
an
award
for
what
that's
like.
That's
like
teach
him
at
home.
T
G
Good
morning
I'm
rev
bernice
powell,
jackson,
I'm
the
pastor
of
first
united
church
of
tampa
and
president
of
hope,
the
hillsborough
organization
for
progress
and
equality,
a
local
faith-based
community
organization
consisting
of
24-member
congregations.
I
come
today
to
speak
in
support
of
agenda
item
114
that
proposes
an
amendment
to
the
city's
criminal
history
practices.
Screening
ordinance,
I
think
mr
miranda
is
the
only
council
person
who
will
remember
this
ten
years
ago.
Hope
came
to
the
council
to
address
the
need
for
tampa's
returning
citizens
to
get
work.
G
After
incarceration
studies
had
shown
how
difficult
it
was
to
get
a
job
when
the
initial
application
asked
have
you
ever
been
arrested
and
the
box
was
checked.
Yes,
the
stories
that
we
heard
showed
that
many
tampa
citizens
were
unable
to
get
employment
because
of
it.
Even
though
many
applicants
had
the
required
and
desired
experience,
they
were
eliminated
once
that
box
was
checked.
G
Sometimes
the
best
worker
is
the
one
who
would
have
been
eliminated
at
the
beginning
of
the
process
because
they
had
checked
that
box.
We
knew
that
this
simple
action
would
give
these
potential
workers
a
fighting
chance
in
the
job
market
and
would
have
a
positive
impact
on
many
tampa:
families,
businesses
and
the
city
of
tampa.
G
G
We
believe
that
this
will
help
our
returning
citizens
to
find
employment,
boosting
both
their
family
income
stability
and
their
own
self-esteem,
while
also
giving
businesses
the
opportunity
to
hire
the
most
qualified
employees.
We
all
know
a
job
is
a
requirement
for
success
and
any
help
the
city
and
our
businesses
offer
is
a
positive
thing.
It's
a
win-win
amendment
for
all
and
we
urge
you
to
pass
it.
F
Good
morning,
good
morning
my
name
is
patrick
williams.
Located
1112
is
scott
street
paradise
missionary
baptist
church.
I've
been
coming
down
here
for
many
many
years,
but
we
don't
get
no
results
and
it's
sad
to
say
that.
But
it's
the
truth
come
down
here
many
times
I
come
down
here
and
who
got
jackson
house,
which
one
of
y'all
got
a
jackson
height.
H
H
There's
some
issues
going
on
with
the
house
and
the
property.
I
think
those
things
got
to
be
worked
out
and
hopefully
eventually
it
can-
and
I'm
very
limited
on
that,
because
there's
some
private
things
that
are
going
on-
it's
not
seed
related.
So
I
think
once
some
meetings
are
held,
hopefully
be
some
resolution
to
the
jackson
house.
But
I
I
again
that's
going
to
be
an
offline
con
conversation,
meaning
you
can
have.
F
Yeah
we
we
thank
you
for
that
information,
but
where
are
we
going
with
it?
Nowhere?
Nowhere
and
I've
been
coming
down
here
time
after
time
telling
y'all
you
need
to
tear
that
regular
house
down
it's
regularly
falling
down
and
nobody
seemed
to
do
nothing.
But
if
it's
in
your
district,
if
it's
in
your
district,
I
think
you
ought
to
know
what
to
do
now.
They
come
and
put
a
citation
on
my
church
and
my
church
ain't
nearby
as
bad
as
that
over
there,
but
nobody
want
to
do
nothing
for
us
as
black
people.
F
As
long
as
god
allowed
me
to
wake
up
in
the
morning,
I'm
gonna
always
be
doing
something
to
try
to
better
better
myself
and
better
everybody
else.
You
know
it's
so
sad
that
black
folks
act
like
they
scared
to
come
down
here
and
speak
up
for
themselves.
They
couldn't
answer
me
pastor.
I
seen
you
on
tv.
I
said
yeah
what
you
see
me
doing.
Oh
man
you're
doing
a
good
job.
No,
I
ain't
doing
no
good
job.
F
They
can
care
less
about
me
and
care.
That's
about
me
putting
me
on
tv.
I
don't
come
down
here
to
be
seen
on
tv.
I
care
less
about
a
damn
tv.
I
come
down
here
for
us
to
work
with
one
another
to
help
one
another
and
don't
forget
when
we,
you
might
call
us
black
people
but
we're
god,
people
and
that's
what
I
want
y'all
to
understand.
F
We
got
to
understand.
Also
we
talk
about
killing
killing
who
killing
killing
the
children
of
white
people,
white
boys,
killing
little
children
in
elementary
school.
What
are
y'all
gonna
do
about
that?
No
don't
do
a
damn
thing.
Come
down
here.
Police
just
come
down
here,
and
all
you
want
to
do
is
hey
got
something
for
you
give
him
a
damn
football.
F
B
H
H
Me
say
something
when
you're
right,
you're
right
when
you,
when
you,
when
you
misconstrue
this
school,
the
several
counselors
have
gone
to
your
place.
We've
instructed
several
people
to
talk
to
you
see
how
we
can
help
you
and
bring
us
to
your
facility.
I
love
your
place.
We've
told
at
our
cra
board
to
see
what
they
can
do
to
meet
my
understanding.
They
try
to
get
with
you
a
couple
times.
H
They
missed
you
and
they've
been
instructed
to
get
with
you
to
see
what
we
can
do
in
reference
to
your
church,
how
we
can
make
that
a
monumental
place,
so
that
is
in
the
work
to
meet
with
you
to
get
that
looking
better
get
that
so
the
public
can
see
the
history
in
there.
So
myself
have
been
there.
Mr
manuscript
has
been
there
and
mr
burton
is
supposed
to
be
working
with
you,
that
is
the
cra
manager
for
central
central
tampa
and
I'm
sure
he's
listening
right
now.
H
F
What
words
mean
don't
mean
a
whole
lot
to
when
you
do
something
mean
a
whole
lot,
you're
right
and
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
do.
I'm
trying
to
do
everything
I
can
to
help
people,
but
it
seems
like
people
don't
give
a
damn
about
me.
Y'all
know
what
you're
doing
wait.
Man,
let
me
tell
talk
here,
please
yeah
now
I
know
what
they
didn't
did
for
the
church.
Then
it
blocked
me
took
my
parking
pla,
put
a
double
striper
in
the
street.
F
F
Police
are
killing
our
black
children
and
and
and
that's
what
it
is,
sir.
Thank
you.
We
talk
about
black
lives
matter.
Do
it
really
matter
what
you
are?
No,
I
don't
think
so.
Y'all
can
care
less
about
me,
but
I
do
want
to
meet
with
the
one
that
got
that
district
y'all
need
to
tell
that
regular
church
chilling
down
over
there.
Thank.
M
M
M
No,
it's
not,
but
the
reason
I'm
here
is
because
I
understand
people
are
registered
to
speak
virtually,
who
will
object
or
may
object
to
my
request
on
august
4th
to
schedule
that
hearing
to
review
our
approval
on
september
15th,
and
they
have
suggested
that
we
followed
some
improper
procedure,
and
I
am
just
here
to
say
that
I
believe
that
we
followed
all
procedures
correctly.
M
They
are
also,
I
think,
suggesting
that
they
don't
have
enough
time
to
prepare,
but
the
petitioner
already
prepared
his
arguments
and
they
are
filed
with
the
petition.
So
I
all
I'm
here
to
do
is
say
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
keep
the
september
15th
date.
If
we
go
past
that
into
october,
my
client
will
be
beyond
the
contract
deadline
and
we
respectfully
ask
them.
I
And
I
don't
know,
other
people
will
speak
on
this
issue,
but
I
know
that
you
all
receive
correspondence
about
the
setting
of
that
hearing.
Typically
one
a
hearing
sending
a
hearing
is
an
administrative
act.
It's
not
a
legislative
act,
it's
not
something
that
typically,
this
body
would
re-review
at
this
point
in
time.
You
would
consider
requests
to
reset
the
hearing
date
or
continue
the
hearing
date
on
the
date
that
hearing
is
set.
I
So
I
would
say
that
conversations
about
when
that
hearing
should
occur
should
occur
on
september
15th,
when
the
hearing
date
has
been
initially
scheduled,
whether
it's
appropriate
to
reschedule
it
whether
the
parties
in
interest,
but
the
petitioner
or
the
property
owner
or
other
proper
parties
interest,
have
a
concern
with
that
date.
Then
that's
the
appropriate
time
to
address
that's
on
september
15..
So.
M
B
G
G
That's
on
the
record.
I
want
to
thank
councilwoman,
hertek
and
councilman
goose
for
standing
up
for
the
people
to
allow
the
people
to
make
the
decision
around
rent
stabilization.
What
happened
one
week
in
between
I
don't
know,
but
you
allow
people
that
was
causing
the
harm
to
come
down
here
and
put
pressure
on.
You.
We've
been
working
on
this
since
february
last
year
and
I
spoke
with
each
each
one
of
you,
council
members,
and
there
was
an
agreement.
G
They
all
agreed
that,
except
for
councilman
carlson,
he
was
up
front,
but
everybody
want
every
one.
Last
one
of
y'all
scanned
and
grinned
and
said
you
know
what
I
support
this.
So
when
the
opportunity
for
you
to
do
it
came
you
show
cowardly
efforts.
That's
on
the
record.
I
also
want
to
thank
council,
mongoose
and
councilwoman
hertek
for
attending
our
park
to
the
post
event.
So
not
only
does
florida
rising
work
on
issues
we
also
mobilize
the
vote,
see
black
and
jews
before
august.
G
The
20th,
which
is
my
birthday
before
august
20th,
had
less
than
100
votes
coming
out.
They
had
one
day
that
they
showed
a
hundred
votes
coming
out
on
the
data
of
that
mobilization.
G
230
votes
may
not
seem
like
a
lot
to
you,
but
what
we
proved
is
is
that
we,
if
we
are
talking
about
voting,
putting
it
out
there
being
consistent
people
will
show
up.
That
was
our
first
one
that
weekend
with
the
souls
to
the
polls
and
our
event
over
500
votes
were
made.
G
That's
good!
That's
a
win
for
us
because
we're
getting
prepared
for
march.
I
also
want
to
thank
nicole
travis
and
her
team
for
coming
out
and
we
us
doing
a
workshop
around
housing.
That
was
a
success.
G
You
owe
us
and
I'm
putting
that
out
there
today
we're
relaxing,
because
we
were
mobilizing
people
around
the
election,
but
you
owe
us
and
we're
not
gonna
stop.
I
came
because
I
wanted
you
to
see
me
and
just
something
funny
when
I
was
out
canvassing,
I
didn't
realize
how
much
of
the
city
pays
attention
to
city
council
didn't
realize
that
until
I
knocked
on
people's
doors-
and
they
recognized
me
for
coming
down
here
and
they
wanted
to
support
to
tell
me
to
keep
going
forward.
G
C
M
B
C
C
I
C
N
N
A
neighborhood
advocate
would
enable
neighborhoods
to
be
better
prepared
when
there
be
they
appear
before
city
council,
thus
cutting
down
the
overall
time
during
rezoning's
adherence
with
proper
direction.
The
neighborhoods
would
better
understand
the
phrase
competent
and
substantial
evidence.
A
professional
advocate
for
the
neighborhood
will
help
shield
the
city
council
for
not
unintentionally,
getting
involved
in
neighborhoods
versus
developer
squabbles.
It
would
help
alleviate
an
appearance,
appearance
of
impropriety
city
planning
departments
dealing
with
zoning
changes,
spend
hundreds
of
hours,
helping
the
poor,
helpless
developer,
understand
these
complexities
for
free
the
neighborhoods.
N
On
the
other
hand,
grovel
for
timely
information,
the
law-abiding
tax-paying
everyday
citizen
trying
to
protect
the
quality
of
their
community
are
not
a
priority
with
folks.
In
these
city
planning
departments,
a
neighborhood
advocate
is
not
a
position
that
can
be
easily
filled,
but
must
be
someone
that
is
knowledgeable
with
land
use
issues,
zoning,
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
quasi-judicial
system.
The
neighborhood
advocate
is
a
benefit
to
all
the
neighborhoods
city,
council,
city
planning
and
even
the
developers.
N
N
Many
cities
in
florida
florida
employ
ombudsmen,
students
and
liaisons
with
different
specialties
from
health
care
to
zoning
city
council.
We
are
asking
you
to
protect
your
constituents
and
create
a
position
that
would
help
educate
the
communities
on
the
changes
for
vote
for
proposed
by
developers,
and
this
advocate
be
available
to
all
communities
within
the
city
of
tampa.
N
E
Regarding
miss
sanchez's
comment,
I'm
gonna
make
a
motion
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
regarding
a
neighborhood
advocate
position,
but
I'll
I'll
take
it
up.
Then.
Thank
you.
Thank.
D
D
So,
and
it's
just
about
to
be
to
let
people
be
aware
of,
what's
going
on
because
a
lot
of
people
most
people
don't
have
time
to
sit
up
here
for
eight
hours
a
day
and
luckily,
I'm
able
to
work
while
I'm
here
listening
to
what's
going
on
and
able
and
I'm
able
to
give
input
and
when
people
ask
me
questions,
I'm
able
to
tell
them.
D
D
Oh
okay.
Well,
for
some
reason:
okay,
just
checking
all
right
anyway,
so
going
through
the
agenda.
My
name
is
gene
strohmeier.
I
am
president
of
interbay,
south
african
civic
association.
You
all
talked
about
the
items:
five,
six
seven
and
the
220
million
dollars.
I
saw
that
first
time,
tuesday
night
on
this
huge
agenda,
which
is
you
know,
125
items.
So
three
minutes
to
go
through
125
items
is
pretty
tough.
So
I
really
think
that
needs
to
be
looked
at.
D
That's
a
lot
of
money
and
you
know
obviously
our
grandchildren,
my
grandchildren,
that
I
don't
have
yet
will
be
paying
for
that
bill
and
I
don't
think
that's
fair
to
them.
Number
eight
consultat
a
consultant
on
these
sidewalk
things.
I
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
gets
a
fair
shake
at
sidewalks
number,
nine
armed
service
security
guards.
I
don't
know
where
those
are
needed.
Please
educate
us,
11
and
12
catholic
charities,
the
homeless.
D
I
think
something-
and
I
think
it's
great-
that
we're
going
to
have
a
the
the
hope,
like
pinellas,
hope,
because
there's
homeless
and
then
there's
the
drug
addict.
So
we
need
to
get
rid
of
the
drug,
the
drug
clinics
that
are
everywhere.
D
My
like
thank
you
for
the
condolence,
the
one
of
you
that
did
send
me
about
tespa,
which
means
hope,
by
the
way,
his
name
and
hope,
thank
you,
and
we
need
to
get
the
drugs
off
the
streets
returning
citizens.
That's
all
great,
just
call
you
can
call
them
what
they
will,
but
obviously
the
question
on
the
box
would
be:
if
they're
going
to
work
at
a
daycare.
Hey
have
you
been
convicted
of
pedophilia
or
something
kind
of
like
that.
You
know,
let's
not
be
stupid.
D
You
know
we
got
to
be
smart
about
how
we
do
things
16
the
stock
items.
We
all
know
about
that,
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
that.
18
reduce
water
rates,
yeah
yay,
that's
good!
Let's
look
into
that.
I
see
I
said
something:
positive
and
good
to
protect
the
elected
officials,
all
the
insurance
that
we
really
wouldn't
be
talking
about
if
it
wasn't
for
one
man
and
his
attorney,
and
perhaps
our
city
attorney
at
the
time
who
was
you
know,
pushing
for
that
removal
of
mr
dingfelder.
D
Unfortunately,
I
look
into
the
surplus
water
number
50.
that
I
don't
know
that
looks
like
we
might.
We
don't
need
pure,
so
that
looks
like
if
we
can
find
surplus
water
and
educate
people.
That
would
be
great
number
66.
That's
good,
get
the
algae
out
of
the
aquifer.
Tell
me
how
you
do
it
when
you
figure
it
out,
because
I
have
that
problem:
water
rates,
water
to
energy
69.70,
oh
doc,
facilities,
78
79!
Can
the
public
use
these
duck
facilities?
Give
me
30
seconds
please
thank.
N
Okay,
as
my
mom
would
say,
big
duckies
are
being
spent
on
today's
budget
implications.
16
of
them
2022
budget
is
in
the
first
10
items
of
today's
agenda,
including
220
million
dollar
bond
to
retrofit
mckay
bay.
That
is
more
than
double
hannah
street.
Just
saying.
N
I
only
asked
this
because
I
hadn't
seen
much
of
a
discussion
on
this
project
prior
to
today's
agenda,
funny
that
councilman
clarkson
mentioned
the
same
thing,
and
we
have
not
collaborated
on
this.
I
am
particularly
curious
about
item
number.
Eight
five
million
dollars
is
a
lot
of
money
for
consulting.
N
N
N
I
support
number
14
on
side,
we're
overall
happy
with
the
idea
from
the
red
sheet
carol.
Ann
bennett
has
communicated
directly
with
mr
jumbo
about
the
adjustments
we'd
like
to
see
in
the
future
19
and
20
protect
our
elected
officials
from
liability,
21
and
75.
As
a
member
of
the
budget
committee,
I
think
it's
time
for
this
to
not
be
kicked
down
the
road
I
spoke
with
councilman
hertek
yesterday
about
it
if
the
city
of
tampa
is
number
29.
This
is
really
important
to
me.
N
If
the
city
of
tampa
is
paying
half
for
the
basketball
courts,
at
least
at
leedham,
or
I'm
sorry,
liberty
and
freedom
school
schools,
those
basketball
courts
should
be
accessible
24
hours
a
day
if
the
school
is
not
in
session.
This
is
the
only
place.
I've
ever
lived
that
every
single
school
has
a
fence
between
it
and
the
kids
who
live
around
it.
I
never
understand
that,
but
if
we're
going
to
pay
for
half,
then
the
city
need
to
have
access
when
they're,
not
there
again
number
65
neighborhood
commercial
district
plans.
N
That
sounds
like
a
reasonable
price,
but
I'd
like
to
see
the
address
and
who
all
bid
on
it
a
one-page
cheat
sheet.
That's
all
I'm
asking
for
number
89!
I
want
to
thank
abby,
philly,
kate,
wells
and
ron
wiggington
for
meeting
with
carol
ann
bennett
and
I
yesterday
afternoon,
to
straighten
this
out
go
figure.
I
was
made
aware
of
an
exterior
easement
this
weekend
and
they
actually
had
an
interior
easement
on
the
agenda
this
week.
So
I
apologize
to
everyone
for
wasting
your
time
on
that,
but
that's
the
life
of
a
neighborhood
advocate.
N
Thank
you
and
please
check
out
the
fan
website.
Thank.
C
N
B
C
You,
sir,
it's
actually,
mr
massey.
I
want
to
make
sure
I
don't
think
there's
an
issue.
Miss
poynter
just
mentioned
item
number
29,
which
deals
with
the
basketball
court,
which
will
be
at
17
400
thomas
park,
boulevard
commerce
park
boulevard.
My
son
is
a
student
at
freedom
high
school.
That's
no
comment
which
is
literally
right
next
door.
Just
for
the
record.
That's
no
conflict
conflict,
no,
sir!
Just
making
sure
I
didn't
think
so.
Thank
you.
This
has
been
pulled
for
discussion
by
castle
woman
just
wanted
to
make
sure
no
conflict.
H
H
And
I
have
nothing
against
the
school
district
or-
and
I
know
a
lot
of
the
properties
out
in
that
area.
A
lot
of
the
recreations
are
using
some
of
the
properties
out
there,
because
I
know
a
lot
of
my
friends
are
workers
in
the
recreation
department,
utilize,
those
facilities.
So
I
think
that's
worth
the
discussion
and
that
was
pulled.
I
believe
correct.
R
Just
in
general,
we've
said
this
before
that.
As
I
understand,
the
deadline
for
each
week's
agenda
is
thursday
or
friday
the
week
before
and-
and
I
can't
read
the
agenda
until
wednesday,
because
documents
come
in
on
wednesday
and
sometimes
multi-million
dollar
documents
come
in
on
wednesday,
night
and
and
the
public
is
very
concerned
about
this.
R
I
think
I
think
we
ought
to
require
that
if,
if
the
sufficient
backup
documents
are
not
in
the
in
the
agenda
by
a
certain
date
that
that
we
automatically
continue
it,
it's
disrespectful
to
us,
because
we
are
forced
to
read
the
agenda
multiple
times,
especially
when
it's
125
items
while
backup,
but
it's
very
disrespectful
to
the
public
and
and
it's
not
it's
not
fair
to
the
public.
Also
on
some
of
these
items
that
are
that
are
enormous,
like
this
220
million
there's
very
little
information
on
on
sire.
R
You
can
you,
can
the
the
community
has
conspiracy
theories
about
all
this,
but
the
the
fact
is
we're
not
giving
enough
information
in
public.
We,
the
mayor,
even
called
for
transparency
and
accountability
and
we're
not
providing
it
staff
are
not
providing
it.
We
need
to
put
more
detail
and
we
need
to
get
it
in
to
sire
earlier
so
that
we
all
have
a
chance
to
look
at
it.
B
And
this
is
all
part
of
three
agenda
items:
five,
six,
seven
and
agenda
item
number,
69
and
70
in
which,
with
the
permission
of
council
members,
I
would
like
to
open
all
at
the
same
time,
motion
made
by
councilman
good
seconded
by
councilman
miranda,
all
in
favor
say
aye
aye.
Is
there
any
objection.
K
Morning,
council,
salvagerio,
deputy
administrator
infrastructure
services
and
before
we
get
started,
I
just
want
to
make
a
little
statement
on
transparency
and
and
and
how
I
operate,
and
you
know
this
I've
been
talking
about
this
for
two
years
and
I
and
we
had
a
previous
chair
of
public
works,
who's
no
longer
with
the
council,
but
he
was
updated
on
a
regular
basis
on
what
was
going
on
here.
So
I
don't
want
you
to
think
that
we're
not
talking,
and
I
also
want
to
tell
you
that
I'm
accessible
anytime,
you
want
just
call
me.
K
R
K
R
Which
didn't
go
very
well
and
I
won't
talk
about
the
details
of
it,
but
I
think
there
has
to
be
respect
for
the
public
and
if,
if
your
department
doesn't
respect
the
public's
right
for
information,
we
have
a
real
problem
in
this
city.
You.
K
R
K
K
S
S
Put
it,
however,
you're
doing
the
computer,
so
you
can
pick
it
up
immediately
and
see
if
you
notified
us
or
dead
notified
us
a
week
ago
or
two
months
ago
or
a
year
ago.
That
way
all
of
us
will
be
satisfied
that
you
did
or
you
didn't,
and
that's
what
I'm
asking
that
way.
They
know
we
know
and
the
public
knows.
I
want
complete
transparency.
I.
M
S
That's
what
I
want
on
both
sides
yep
and
that's
what
I
want
so
I
at
the
end
of
the
month.
I
I
guess
I
can
make
a
motion
at
the
end
of
meeting
that
for
them
to
set
a
separate
file
every
time
they
send
us
something
on
what
subject
matter
it
is
so
when
they
need
to
recoup
they
just
push
that
and
hand
it
to
us.
That's
all.
Thank
you
very
much
appreciate
it.
K
I
know
you
heard
this,
but
I
want
to
get
it
out
for
the
public
a
little
background
on
on
the
facility.
It
was
built
in
1967
as
an
incinerator,
that's
where
all
the
city's
trash
was
bought
and
and
ultimately
just
burned,
1985
the
turbine
generator
was
installed.
K
So
that's
that
gives
you
a
little
perspective
on
some
of
the
maintenance
work
when's
the
last
time
it
was
done,
2002,
boilers,
three
and
four
were
refurbished.
Now,
when
I
talk
about
the
boilers,
those
are
that's.
What
burns
the
trash
there's
four
of
them.
We
can
burn
a
thousand
tons
a
day.
Each
each
boiler
does
250
tons,
that's,
and
if
there's
you
know,
they
could
go
up
or
down,
depending
on
how
they're
running
if
the
trash
is
wet.
But
ultimately
we
burn
about
a
thousand
tons
a
day
in
about
325
000
tons
a
year.
K
K
K
There
was
very
little
communication
between
that
management
and
the
solid
waste
operation
and
that's
critical,
because
if
you
have
a
an
outage
at
that
plant,
then
we
can't
bring
trash
city
trash
to
that
plant.
That
day
we
have
to
divert
it.
So
what
was
happening
back
then
was
our
trucks
would
show
up,
and
they
say
oh
no,
we're
shut
down
for
today.
Now
we
gotta
divert
it
and
then
that
just
rolls
into
trash
not
getting
picked
up
in
the
neighborhoods
over
time
considerations
it
just
made
for
a
mess.
K
We
also
felt
that
they
weren't
maintaining
the
the
equipment
properly
and
by
showing
you
the
dates
it
kind
of
conf.
It
confirms
that
and
really
there
was
no
allegiance
to
the
citizens
of
tampa.
An
outside
party
running
a
city
facility
really
no
allegiance
their
only
allegiance
was
let's
burn
tonnage
and
make
money.
K
For
the
last
two
years,
we
first
off
we
brought
chuck
in
and
we
stole
him
from
washington
state
now
he's
done
this
across
the
country
he's
taken,
private,
run
incinerators
and
power
plants,
waste,
any
plants
and
transition
them
into
city
run
facilities.
K
He
spent
solidifying
the
workforce
out
there,
there's
55
employees
at
work
out
there
and
they're
they're
critical
jobs.
Some
were
operate,
the
cranes
that
pick
the
trash
up
and
bring
it
into
the
tipping
floor
and
then
there's
maintenance,
people
and
they're
very
specific
jobs.
Right
now
he
has
eight
openings.
So
that's
a
work
in
progress,
getting
that
workforce
to
55.
K
in
addition
to
that,
there's
contractors
out
there
and
they
supplement
what
we
can't
do
and
they're
very
important.
The
second
year
is
when
we
really
started
looking
into
hey.
What
is
this
plant?
What
do
we
need
to
do
to
fix
it?
Make
it
run
it's
running,
but
we
need
to
make
it.
You
know,
make
the
repairs
and
the
renovations
and
keep
it
into
the
future.
So
that
we
don't
have
any
disruption
of
city
services
for
trash,
pickup.
K
And,
and
and
but
through
that,
he
worked,
he
worked
online
and
with
the
staff,
and
they
came
up
with
a
plan
of
how
are
we
going
to
fix
this
this
this
waste
energy
plant
and
I
think,
he's
done
a
pretty
good
job
once
he
came
up
with
what
actually
needs
to
be
fixed
and
where
we're
going,
there
was
a
bid
put
out,
and
charles
perry
partners
incorporated,
was
selected
as
the
contractor
to
oversee
this
process.
K
Okay
and
chuck
can
explain
to
you
because
he
was
on
that
selection
committee
on
what
what
parameters
were
done
to
choose
them.
They
would
he'll
get
into
that.
So
back
in
august
of
august,
26
of
2021,
the
design
build
for
this
project
was
brought
to
council
and
it
was
voted
in
to
proceed
that
was
a
year
ago,
so
we're
back
a
year
with
the
information
of
how
to
proceed.
K
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there.
So
we
have
pricing
on.
K
I
would
call
it
phase
one
and
phase:
one
is
materials
and
equipment
that
we
have
to
buy
to
service
the
plant,
and
the
reason
why
we're
here
is
that
once
you
approve
this,
hopefully
it
takes
52
weeks
or
one
year
to
get
these.
This
equipment
delivered
to
us.
That's
what
we're
dealing
with
right
now,
as
this
is
going
on
with
phase
one
phase.
K
Two
is
in
process
with
charles
perry
partners
incorporated
chuck
the
engineer
of
record
out
out
at
the
waste
energy
plan,
which
is
arcadis
and
contract
admin
and
they're
putting
together
what
is
it
going
to
cost
once
the
once
the
parts
and
materials
come
in?
What's
the
labor
going
to
cost
and
we'll
come
back
with
that
phase
two
in
addition
to
this,
chuck
has
developed
a
five-year
plan,
so
there's
phase
one
which
we're
here
today,
phase
two
which
will
come
but
phase
this
this
five-year
plan.
K
You
need
to
hear
about
it
today
and
and
that's
work
that
has
to
be
done
over
the
next
five
years,
kind
of
like
maintenance
work
that
wasn't
done
during
the
time
the
private
contractor
had
it
and
chuck
we'll
we'll
we'll
kind
of
explain
that
too
there's
a
small
percentage
of
the
17
million
today
that
there's
some
work,
that's
going
to
be
done
in
one
of
the
one
of
the
buildings.
I
think
it's
just
painting
right.
B
Q
Well,
there's
a
there's
a
a
lot
of
piping
that
is
coming.
Q
There's
a
lot
of
piping
that
is
going
to
be
employed.
We
have
some
underground
piping,
that
is
rotting,
and
we
need
to
bring
it
above
ground
and
part
of
this.
17
million
is
just
to
set
up
set
up
that
piping
prior
to
taking
the
plant
down
so
that
some
of
the
components
can
be
put
put
in
place
without
without
without
having
to
build
this
staging,
prolonged
neurology
outage
in
the
pipeline.
K
And
the
point
of
that
is
that
that
is
going
to
be
completed
by
a
equal
business
opportunity
there.
So
there's
some
news
there.
So
once
we
once
we
get
to
go
ahead
to
proceed
with
this
and
we
we
order
everything
that
we
need
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
try
to
complete
this.
The
plan
is
to
complete
this
project
in
the
fourth
quarter
of
2023
and
we
have
a
50-day
window
to
do
all
the
work.
So
that
means
that
the
plant
has
to
be
shut
down
for
50
days.
K
Q
Council,
chair
council,
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
state
the
case
here
for
what
we're
asked
for
our
request.
I
came
to
the
city
of
tampa
in
order
to
help
with
the
transition
from
private
operation
to
public
operation.
I've
got
over
40
years
experience
in
the
power
industry
field.
36
of
those
years
have
been
in
waste
energy
there's
only
one
other
plant
in
the
united
states,
large-scale
waste
energy
plant
that
has
done
what
we
we're
doing
here
and
that
is
spokane
in
washington.
Q
The
mayor
of
spokane
hired
me
to
transition
that
facility,
and
it
was
highly
successful
the
city
of
tampa
liked
what
we
were
doing
and
they
found
themselves
in
the
same
boat
as
spokane
was
and
made.
The
decision
to
internalize
the
operations
as
discussed.
The
mckay
bay
facility
is
in
need
of
equipment,
replaces
replacements,
upgrades
and
repairs
in
order
to
continue
providing
reliable,
solid
waste
disposal
services
to
the
city
of
tampa
now
and
into
the
future.
Q
These
these
repairs
will
help
move
the
facility
facility
from
a
reactive
operation
to
one
of
reliability,
predictability
and
a
preventive
maintenance
program,
as,
as
sao
discussed,
the
turbine
generator
it's
over
30
35
years
old
it
it.
It's
suppose,
industry
standard
standards
dictate
that
it
should
be
overhauled
every
five
years.
Q
This
particular
machine
has
been
over
eight
years
since,
since
the
last
overhaul,
if
this
machine
were
to
have
a
failure,
a
catastrophic
failure
this
plant
is
down
could
be
down
for
a
year
or
longer.
If
that
should
happen,
the
cost
to
the
city
of
tampa
and
the
citizens
would
be.
I
I
can't
even
think
about
how
many
millions
of
dollars
would
have
that.
Would
that
would
cost
us
as
the
city
and
the
citizens,
the
main
transformers
at
the
plant
are
over
37
years
old.
Q
This
is
the
transformer
that
that
allows
power
to
to
be
produced
and
sent
out
to
for
sale
to
seminole
power,
and
it
also
if
the
plant
goes
down.
For
any
reason,
it
allows
power
to
come
back
to
us
from
the
power
company.
Now
we
produce
a
lot
of
power.
We
use
our
own
power
that
we're
producing
to
operate
the
plant,
but
we
sell
the
remainder,
we're
seeing
nearly
10
million
dollars
a
year
in
revenue
from
that
electricity.
Q
B
Q
Waste
energy
plants
require
a
lot
of
attention
and
maintenance
with
time
and
age
they
can
fall
into
disrepair
and
in
it
and
from
inattention
and
deferring
maintenance
to
save
dollars.
This
puts
us
in
that
reactive
mode.
I
talked
about,
and,
and
essentially
a
reactive
mode
is
run
to
failure
which,
which
is
not
in
anyone's
best
interest,
certainly
not
not
the
city
or
the
citizens,
but
it
the
reality
is.
This
is
where
we
are
now
it's
our
plan
to
make
changes
from
this
type
of
operation
by
completing
the
proposed
cip
projects.
Q
This
can
be
done.
I
have
led
a
team
in
spokane
washington
to
washington.
That
did
exactly
the
same
thing
for
the
same
reasons
as
tampa
is
doing
now
again,
the
facility
was
taking
over
and
started
run
being
run
minnesota
by
the
municipality
on
june
1st
of
2020,
so
we
got
two
years
under
our
belt
and
we're
recognizing
what
needs
to
be
done
and
in
order
to
allow
this
plant
to
service
the
citizens
of
the
city
of
tampa
well
into
the
future.
Q
That
that
is
my
presentation
for
the
item
number
five.
I
believe
it
is
the
17
million
dollars.
I
have
some
other
information,
but
it
will.
It
would
require
my
presentation
go
longer.
R
Yeah
I
I
want
to
start
first
of
all,
mr
chair.
I
have
a
lot
of
questions
of
this
project
overall,
but
I'd
just
like
to
ask
you
a
few
questions
real
fast,
and
I
thank
you
for
your
service,
especially
through
covet.
I
thought
of
the
conversation
the
other
day.
I
I
thought
that
you
you,
the
conversation
with.
You
went
well
because
you
have
a
lot
of
experience.
R
You
have
the
expertise,
you
have
the
experience
from
spokane
and
other
places,
and
I
appreciate
you
coming
here
and
working
through
that,
just
to
clarify
the
numbers
from
my
colleagues
and
and
we
did
some
behind
the
napkin
kind
of
numbers,
the
other
day,
you're,
generating
plus
or
minus
10
million
in
revenues
by
selling
electricity
to
seminole,
correct
that
is
simple,
electric
and
and
then
what
do
you
think
is
the
if
you
had
to
buy
the
electricity
that
you're
using
on
the
plant?
How
much
would
that
be.
Q
It
could
I
I
don't.
I
don't
have
the
numbers
yet,
but
I
can
certainly
get
it
back
to
you,
but
I
would
expect
it
would
be
significantly
more
when,
when
seminole
power
pays,
us
they're,
essentially
paying
us
on
an
avoided
cost
basis.
So
they
look
at
fuels
and
they
look
at
what
it
would
cost
for
them
to
produce
the
same
amount
of
power
and
that
that's
what
they
pay
us,
of
course,
when
they
sell
their
own
power,
they
sell
it
for
a
lot
more.
R
Q
Yeah,
it's
it's!
It's
in
the
24
million
dollar
and.
R
So
a
plant
like
this
there's
the
what
we
have
to
do
as
policy
makers
look
at
what
the
alternatives
are
and
I'll
talk
about
that
in
a
second,
but
it
it's
it's
not.
I
think
these
plants
are
not
meant
to
make
a
profit.
They're
meant
to
solve
a
community
issue,
which
is
how
do
we
dispose
of
waste
but
by
using
this
incinerator,
we're
getting
10
million
a
year
to
offset
the
24
million,
so
the
net
is
about
14.
R
And
then,
but
that's
not
including
the
capital
cost
of
all
the
things
mr
harrow's
going
to
talk
about
a
few
minutes,
so
we
have
to.
We
have
to
think
about
that
now.
If
I
remember
correctly,
I
don't
remember
how
we
got
to
this
number,
but
I
think
the
cost
of
shipping
to
pascal
landfill,
maybe
not
including
distribution,
but
just
in
paying
the
landfill
costs,
is
somewhere
around
15
million
a
year
if
we
had,
if
we,
if
we
didn't,
use
this
plan
at
all
and
we
just
shipped
it
up
there.
Q
Q
R
I'm
not
arguing
for
landfills
because
there
are
pros
and
cons
from
an
environmental
standpoint,
but
and-
and
you
have
a
lot
of
information
about
that-
I'm
sure
you'll
give
later,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
go
through
the
numbers
of
it.
There
is
an
alternative,
and
so
if,
if,
if
we
had
to
at
this
point,
we
haven't
spent
the
220
million
dollars
and
all
this
other
stuff,
and
that's
only
five
years
by
the
way-
that's
not
30
years
and
not
including
interest.
R
So
as
we're
looking
at
the
cost
of
this
right
now,
if
we
had
to
shut
it
down,
it's
about
it
plus
or
minus
the
same
similar
cost
to
send
it
to
landfill.
So
I
would
just
encourage
everybody
as
we're.
Looking
at
the
new
costs
of
it,
you
know:
what's
what's
the
total
cost
and
we
have
to
look
30
years?
R
R
The
interest
was
like
71
million,
so
if
you
take
108
million
plus
71
million-
and
we
didn't
even
include
o
m,
it's
probably
the
total
cost
over
30
years
is
220
million
or
more
for
a
building
that
houses,
500
people,
I
mean
incredibly
high
prices,
and
so
what
I
want
to
do
is
just
make
sure
that
we
know
all
the
costs
and-
and
you
talked
about
the
the
the
cost
of
failure
now,
if
there's
a
catastrophic
event
that
would,
of
course,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
the
thing
is
safe
and
nobody
gets
hurt
and
nothing
like
that
happens.
R
But
if
the
thing
just
shut
down,
if
the
turbine
stopped
working,
we
need
to
think
about
what
those
what
those
costs
are
and
and
look
at
the
alternatives.
All
we
would
do
is
we'd
redirect
it
to
the
landfill.
So
then,
what
are
the
ongoing
operating
costs
during
a
a
shutdown
that
we
would
have
to
continue
to
pay?
You
know
what
what
double
cost
and
I'm
not
asking
for
the
the
answer
now,
but
we
we
would
need
to
look
at
that.
Q
May
I
for
a
moment
please,
my
counselor
we're
kind
of
talking
about
220
million
dollars.
220
million
dollars
is
not
for
the
waste
energy
plan.
It's
for
the
entire
solid
waste
system.
The
waste
energy
plan
is
asking
for
17
million
dollars
now
to
buy
the
equipment
or
and
put
down
payments
on
work
that
we
need
to
bring
in
fairly
as
soon
as
possible,
so
that
we
can
perform
the
outage
within.
M
Q
J
R
R
R
Point
is
similar
to
hannah
avenue.
You
know
hannah
avenue,
while
that
evaluation
was
being
done,
we
could
have
bought
tampa
city
center
across
the
street
for,
for,
I
think,
119
million
we're
gonna
end
up
paying
108,
plus
plus
plus
for
hannah
avenue.
R
We
could
have
rented
out
the
extra
space
across
the
street
tampa
city
center
and
made
a
profit
on
it,
and-
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
just
empire
building
that
we're
actually
making
the
right
policy
decisions
and
it's
important
for
the
public
that
we
go
through
all
the
business
numbers
and-
and
you
have
the
experience
you
can
talk
us
through
it,
but
I
just
want
to
set
the
public's
expectation
because
we
make
a
decision
now
and
then
a
year
from
now
come
back
and
say:
okay,
now
we
need
another
20
million,
another
20
I'd
rather
map
out
the
whole
thing
for
30
years.
R
What's
the
total
cost,
including
interest
capital,
o
m
everything
for
what
we
need
to
do
over
30
years?
And
then
we
need
to
compare
that
to
the
other
policy
choices
and
we
need
to
look
at
the
environmental
impact
which
you're
an
expert
on
and
then
as
we
make
as
we
look
at
that
holistically,
then
we
can
make
a
decision.
That's
prudent,
for
the
public
and
probably
based
on
the
discussion.
We
had
the
other
day,
probably
we'll
get
back
to
the
same
point
that
you
all
are
at.
R
But
but
my
issue
is
that
we've
in
the
in
the
last
two
meetings
where
this
was
discussed
in
the
budget.
It
was
just
a
quick
line
of
oh
we're
going
to
come
back
to
you
on
220
million
and
yes,
there
were
memos
in
the
past,
but
not
a
comprehensive
look
at
this
as
a
policy
decision
and
as
a
big
capital
expenditure
we
need
to.
We
need
to
in
a
more
fulsome
way,
not
just
talk
as
city
council,
but
talk
to
the
public
about
it
and
make
sure
we're
looking
at
all
the
numbers.
R
Q
Well,
one
and
and
I'd
like
to
respond
a
little
bit
to
that-
I
I
don't
have
anything
to
do
with
hannah.
That
would
be
salvager.
Q
Once
again,
what
we're
looking
for
is
enough
money
to
start
the
process
to
order
the
equipment
and
get
on
people's
schedules.
For
a
year
from
now
gm
or
pricing
number
two
will
come
in
for
the
installation,
the
rest
of
the
components
that
don't
have
long
lead
time
and
all
of
the
work
that
needs
to
be
done
that
that
we
don't
have
that
number
yet
we're
looking
again
we're
looking
for
the
17
million.
That's
come
that
to
get
that
process
started.
H
E
And
looking
at
the
17
million
dollars
in
regards
to
maintenance
and
the
turbines
and
a
catastrophic
situation
where
these
should
be
maintained,
every
five
years
now
we're
at
year
eight
so
knock
on
wood.
I
hope
nothing
happens,
but
should
it
happen
it's
not
about
you
know
we
can
send
it
off
to
pasco
county,
but
it's
diverting
the
trash,
the
waste
to
date,
city
and
the
reduction
in
the
quality
of
the
services
that
we're
providing
the
community
on
top
of
a
delay
of
possibly
a
year.
E
E
That
is,
I
believe,
so
he'll
you'll
explain
it
later,
but
you
know
maintenance
is
key,
because
if
we
have,
you
know
a
generator
issue,
a
turbine
issue
and
we
have
to
divert
to
another
county
which
is
farther
away,
not
just
the
costs,
not
just
what
it's
going
to
cost
us,
not
just
the
revenue
that
we
lose.
You
know
what
we
sell
to
seminal
and
and
how
we
earn
that
it
was
like
eight
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
month.
I
think
the
number
that
we
threw
out
there
was
ten
million
dollars
a
year.
E
It's
the
fact
that
you
know
the
transportation
to
get
that
there,
the
delay,
the
complaints
that
we're
gonna
get
from
the
public.
You
know
people
want,
you
know
the
solid
waste
picked
up.
You
know
they're
on
a
set
schedule
when
the
facility
is
backed
up
and
and
shut
down,
and
we
have
to
divert
it
to
another
county.
It
takes
time
to
to
get
to
date.
City,
I
think
it's.
We
don't
realize
the
magnitude
of
what
could
happen,
we're
looking
at
the
estimated
dollars,
but
I
think
it
could
be
an
even
worse
situation.
E
Q
Like
also
to
add
to
that,
should
we
have
to
divert
all
of
this
waste
the
the
increase
in
greenhouse
gases
when,
when
you
put
a
ton
of
trash
into
a
landfill
landfills
generate
methane,
whether
they
have
a
collection
system
or
not.
Methane
is
80
times
more
potent
a
greenhouse
gas
than
co2
and
we
emit
co2
at
the
facility.
I
have
some
numbers
to
show
you
how
much
co2
we
admit
and
compare
that
to
the
greenhouse
gases
that
are
nationwide
from
both
waste
energy
plants
comparative
to
to
landfills.
Q
B
Council
members,
it
is
already
11
25
right
now.
I
would
like
to
hold
off
on
questions
until
the
presentation
has
come.
I've
already
have
my
questions
that
I
want
to
ask
and
they'll
be
done
in
rapid
fire,
no
offense
to
staff,
but
we
have
staff
here
that
really
needs
to
get
back
to
work.
So
if
we
can
hold
our
questions
to
the
end,
please-
and
thank
you.
B
Q
Okay,
so
item
number
69
or
is
has
an
id
number
of
seven
six,
nine
one,
seven,
six,
six,
nine
one
for
four
hundred
and
eighty
eight
thousand
two
hundred
and
fifty
six
dollars
and
24
cents.
This
is
an
annual
contract.
Q
This
allows
us
to
go
inside
each
of
the
four
boilers
and
replace
the
great
blocks
that
need
to
be
replaced.
Great
blocks
are
they're
they're,
exactly
what
they
sound
like
the
fuel
comes
into
the
furnace,
it's
it
goes
on
to
the
great
blocks
and
that's
where
the
fire
is
generated,
2500
degrees.
So
you
could
up
to
2500
degrees
you.
So
you
can
imagine
the
wear
and
tear
that
go
on
on
the
great
blocks.
Q
We
will
be
seeing
this
contract
annually
and
the
same
is
true
for
item
number:
seven,
six,
six,
nine
eight!
This
is
for
the
refractory
in
the
boilers.
The
refractor
in
the
boiler.
Knee
boilers
need
to
be
maintained
annually
and
remember
we're
talking
about
four
boilers
here.
The
refractory
covers
the
tubes
in
the
boiler
and
and
protects
those
tubes
in
in
the
furnace
area,
from
direct
impingement
from
the
flames
and
the
heat
and
corrosion
of
the
of
the
burning
process.
Q
Q
It
pass
it
I'll
turn
it
over
to
larry.
J
J
Just
so
you
can
see
it
so
I'm
here
to
discuss
the
relocation
of
the
solid
waste
headquarters
from
spruce
street
to
34th
street.
Now,
as
you
can
see
here,
our
existing
site
has
multiple.
Can
you
see,
I
want
to
make
sure
all
right.
So,
as
you
can
see
here,
our
existing
site
has
multiple
departments,
so
we
have
solid
waves,
of
course,
facility
maintenance
container.
Well,
excuse
me,
container
maintenance
is
part
of
solid
waste
and
our
fleet
maintenance.
J
In
addition,
it
spans
from
spruce
street
to
laurel
street
and,
as
you
can
see
at
the
very
bottom,
just
highlighted
it
for
you
as
well,
but
you
look
nor
if
you
look
south,
you
can
see
residents
residential
areas
surrounding
it.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
understands
that
this
was
a
long
time
coming,
like
councilman
miranda
mentioned
ultimately
well.
J
First
and
foremost,
thank
you
for
approving
the
design
build
last
month
july
is
july,
14th
for
this
project
as
a
whole,
and
I
want
to
take
a
step
back
because
I
believe
all
you
know
about
the
project,
but
just
in
case
there
are
some
they
do
not
remember.
This
was
not
haphazardly.
You
know.
Stumbled
upon
in
2019
howard
associates
prepared
a
master
plan
for
this
parcel
and
the
sideways
in
general,
and
that
therefore
this
has
led
to
the
relocation
itself.
J
So,
to
be
specific,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
knows
that,
there's
more
than
just
a
administration
building
arriving
at
34th
street,
it's
a
admin
building,
it's
a
fleet
maintenance
building
as
well.
So
we
can
maintain
our
fleets
container
maintenance,
a
truck
watch
that
we're
relocating
from
our
current
a
current
site
to
the
mckay
bay
facility
scale
house,
we're
improving
our
scale
house,
so
we're
expanding
the
lanes
as
well
to
accommodate
for
our
our
growing
community
as
well,
and
there
will
also
be
a
parking
garage.
J
J
It's
an
industrial
site,
so
you
can
see
to
the
to
the
west
is
the
actual
incinerator,
so
the
waste
energy
facility,
and
we
would
like
to
relocate
ourselves
in
this
parcel.
J
If
you
look
towards
the
the
east
of
that
western
facility,
you
can
see
the
impound
lot
and
that's
where
the
the
main
administration
building
will
be
located.
There's
multiple
benefits
for
this
relocation.
The
ride
from
spruce
street
to
mckay
bay
facility
is
19
minutes
in
total
and
that's
without
traffic.
J
J
At
a
rate,
our
average
rate
for
overtime
is
32.
Four
days
a
week,
that's
330
000
a
year
that
we
can
potentially
save
and
by
relocating.
In
addition
to
that,
we
will
centralize
our
right
now
fragmented
operation.
We
will
gain
efficiency,
as
I
just
mentioned,
and
productivity
for
our
customers,
internal
and
external.
J
We
reduce
the
vehicle,
maintenance
and
fuel
usage,
as
most
of
you
know,
60
of
our
140
fleet.
You
know
team
is
cng
power,
so
that's
compressed
natural
gas,
and
on
top
of
that,
we
will
reduce
the
impact
on
the
surrounding
areas,
the
noise
pollution,
the
congestion,
the
traffic
congestion
and
then
they
will
have
the
opportunity
to
revitalize
the
infrastructure,
and
also,
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
mention
the
benefits
for
the
employees,
our
team
as
well.
J
So
that
concludes
my
presentation,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
time,
of
course,
and
I'll
open
this
up
for
the
cfo.
Mr
rogero.
P
Good
morning,
council
dennis
rojero,
chief
financial
officer,
of
course,
you've
you've
been
given
the
reasons
why
we
think
this
is
the
best
course
of
action,
and
I
use
I
use
the
term
course
because
that's
really
what
this
is,
we're
charting
a
course
and
should
council
decide
to
go
with
that
course
we're
offering
you
a
way
to
pay
for
it.
But
if
I
could
again
clarify
a
few
things,
the
220
million
dollars
that
we're
referencing
is
part
of
the
five-year
capital
improvement
program
that
we
submitted
to
you
earlier
this
month.
P
We're
simply
fleshing
it
out,
because
we
have
an
immediate
need
for
an
initial
purchase
of
17
million
dollars
as
councilman
goods
was
referencing,
though,
ultimately,
should
we
choose
to
pursue
this
course.
It's
a
220
million
dollar
plan
in
those
first
three
years,
but
again
we're
not
asking
you
to
approve
a
220
million
dollar
plan
right
now
and
council
knows
from
experience.
I
would
never
certainly
never
ask
you
to
approve
220
million
dollars
worth
of
debt
without
the
road
show
the
presentation,
my
internal
and
external
finance
team
here.
P
So
I
apologize
if
the
220
million
dollars
has
been
confusing
and
I'll
address
that
in
just
a
moment
we're
asking
for
a
17
million
dollar
contract
agreement,
we're
asking
to
move
some
funding
internally
within
solid
waste.
So
we
can
meet
that
17
million
dollar
contract
agreement
as
part
of
the
capital
improvement
program,
we're
letting
you
know
we're
looking
at
a
rate
study
which
will
likely,
as
we've
discussed
before,
lead
to
some
rate
increase
in
solid
in
the
solid
waste
department.
P
And
finally-
and
this
is
where
I'll
bring
in
the
220
million
in
an
effort
at
being
as
expedient
as
possible,
what
we're
asking
is,
should
we
choose
to
issue
debt?
This
will
allow
us,
as
councilman
maniscalco,
is
saying
to
pay
ourselves
back
from
that
bond.
If
we
spend
a
dollar
now
without
a
reimbursement
resolution,
I
can't
capture
that
back
from
the
bond
issues
now.
Having
said
that,
perhaps
there
is
a
way
forward
for
this
urgent,
but
not
emergency
need
if
the
220
million
is
causing
hesitancy
and
again,
it
still
needs
to
be
fleshed
out
again.
P
That's
why
we
have
put
together
the
220
million
dollar
presentation,
I'll
reiterate
again
at
each
and
every
instant,
where
we'll
seek
debt.
For
this
we'll
come
to
city
council,
we'll
give
the
presentation
and
city
council
can
decide
whether
to
proceed
or
not.
You've
heard
some
of
the
alternatives
if
we
don't
proceed
but
again
that
will
be
city
council's
decision
at
that
time.
B
Are
we
all
excuse
me
are
all
of
you
collectively
ready
to
take
questions
from
council
or
do
you
want
to
just
ask
mr
o'hara
a
question?
As
I
stated
earlier,
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
ask
all
people
all
staff
concerned
questions,
questions.
Okay,
then,
let's
go
with
all
staff
councilman
gucci.
First
up
most.
H
Of
my
questions
to
mr
hero,
you
know
yes,
sir
solid
waste
has
some
money
that
can
that
can
help
with
the
17
million
correct,
yes,
sir,
so
they
can
pay
themselves
back.
Basically
on
it
right.
Yes,
the
bigger
question:
you
look
at
the
overall
picture.
I
look
at.
If
give
an
example.
Yesterday,
one
of
my
vehicles
was
down
from
cadillac
for
like
92
days
yesterday,
the
lady
calls
me
and
says
your
neighbor
rental
maintenance
needs
to
come
in
tomorrow,
but
that
was
taken
care
of.
H
So
my
question
is:
if
we're
looking
at
preventive
maintenance,
you
never
can
go
back,
but
you
got
to
look
at
that
how
in
the
world
and
things
do
break
they
get
old,
there
was
no
pre.
Preventive
maintenance
schedule
seems
like,
but
going
forward
once
you
fix
this
one
section,
that's
a
new
pumping
engine,
something
else
gonna
break,
that's
just
the
nature
of
it.
H
H
You're
right,
it's
an
incinerator,
garbage
has
to
be
picked
up.
Garbage
has
to
be
burned.
I
wouldn't
want
to
just
talk
about
having
landfills
putting
garbage
all
in
landfills.
I
don't
think
that's
safe
for
the
environment,
so
I
think
mr
carlson
is
right
on
one
aspect.
When
you
bring
a
project,
you
may
not
have
all
the
analysis,
but
you
got
to
be
able
to
bring
some
analysis
to
the
table
to
say
here's
those
steps
for
those
220
million
dollars
and
the
period
of
time
it's
gonna
take
or
how
we
pay
ourselves
back
for
that
money.
H
P
Fair
and
I
absolutely
agree-
and
again
that's
one
of
the
things
we
will
task
our
rate
consultant
with
look
at
all
of
our
needs,
whether
it
is
debt
service
funded,
whether
whether
council
choose
not
to
have
an
incinerator
anymore,
for
instance-
and
I
don't
see
that
happening,
but
that
would
be
council's
discretion.
Look
at
all
of
the
iterations
and
all
of
the
scenarios
and
what
will
it
take
to
fund
it
to
fund
it?
Not
only
reactively
for
the
waste
to
energy
plant.
S
S
S
So
what
I'm
saying
is
when
you
have
an
automobile?
Why
do
you
buy
one?
Because
really
you
get
disgusting
with
yourself
that
ain't
about
the
model,
the
shine,
the
grease
and
all
that
kind
of
flare
that
they
put
now
you
can
go
in
a
car
and
do
from
zero
to
60
in
1.9
seconds.
The
problem
that
I
ask
myself
is
who's
not
going
to
give
you
a
ticket.
S
D
D
I
know
we
have
a
lot
of
deferred
maintenance
that
we
have
to
deal
with,
but
the
the
other
thing
and-
and
I
look
forward
to
having
an
actual
presentation
about
this-
I
think
that
would
be
helpful.
D
Visuals
would
be
lovely
because
a
lot
of
us
are
visual,
especially
the
public
allows
them
to
to
understand
the
breakdown
of
this,
but
to
also
to
councilman
miranda's
point
to
also
discuss
to
show
us
very
clearly
what
inaction
means
and
the
other
thing
that
that
no
one
here
has
mentioned
when
it
talked
when
we're
talking
about
this
larger
plan,
the
17
million,
I'm
absolutely
inclined
to
support,
no
problem.
We
need
to
get
that
started.
D
But
when
we're
looking
at
the
overall
plan
to
move
the
solid
waste
and
fleet
maintenance
facilities
out
of
spruce
tree
area
is,
is
the
boon
to
that
neighborhood
and
what
that
neighborhood
has?
Has
dealt
with
for
so
many
years
and
how
much
they
want
that
space
back
and
what
we
can,
what
we
can
actually
do
with
that
amount
of
land
in
that
neighborhood.
So
I
I
really
want
us
to
think
about
the
larger
picture
of
that
too,
because
we,
yes,
we
are
doing
this,
but
but
we
are
also
helping
a
neighborhood.
D
Just
I
mean
I,
I
don't
even
know
that
the
changes
that
they're
going
to
be
able
to
see
because
they
don't
have
to
deal
with
solid
waste
vehicles
and
other
large
fleet
maintenance
vehicles
there.
So,
let's,
let's
bring
that
part
into
that
presentation
as
well,
because
I
I
that's
that's
the
untold
part.
Obviously
we
have
to
look
at
the
numbers,
that's
our
job,
but
we
want
to
share
those
numbers
with
the
public,
but
I
also
want
to
talk
about
the
amount
of
land
and
and
the
possibilities
for
that
neighborhood
going
forward.
R
Based
on
what
councilmember
herteg
just
said,
I
think
we
ought
to
have
you
all
before
any
kind
of
rate
increase,
especially,
I
think
you
ought
to
come
back
for
a
workshop
discussion
or
some
longer
conversation
a
day
like
today.
We
have
125
items
on
the
agenda
and
this
should
take
two
or
three
hours
to
discuss.
This
is
a
major
issue
and
I
would
just
encourage
the
administration
on
any
of
these
major
capital
projects.
R
Please
come
to
us
proactively
and
just
have
discussions
about
where
these
things
stand
and
educate
us
and
the
public.
It's
not.
You
could
have
sent
us
a
hundred
emails
about
this,
but
if
the
public's
not
reading
our
emails,
they
don't
know
anything
about
it.
The
public
deserves
to
know
what's
going
on
with
it,
and
so
we
need
to
have
a
fulsome
discussion
of
it.
Based
on
everything.
I
know
I'm
in
favor
of
keeping
the
incinerator
and
I
voted
for
it
to
to
convert
to
the
city.
R
But
what
what
we're
realizing
now
is
that
we
were
missing
a
whole
bunch
of
information,
and
it
worries
me
because
it's
similar
to
pure,
which
originally
was
300
million,
and
then
it
turns
out
it's
between
2
and
6
billion
and
then
hannah
avenue,
which
started
out
as
two
pro
two
buildings
for
100
million.
Then
it
was
one
building
for
108
million.
That
actually
is
maybe
220
million.
R
And
if
you
include
interest
in
o
m-
and
so
I
think
I
think
we
we
should
be
treated
with
respect
and
being
given
the
full
information
and
if
and
if
you
all
aren't
generating
that
information,
then
shame
on
you
all
for
not
doing
it.
But
you
need
to
present
it
to
us
as
if
we
don't
know
anything,
no
matter
what
you
briefed
us
in
private.
The
public
deserves
to
know
it
and
we
need
to
mike
the
reason
why
I
got
upset
angry
in
the
beginning
and
on
the
phone
call.
R
The
other
day
is,
I
think,
the
public
deserves
to
know
and-
and
this
presentation
is
not
sufficient
for
the
public
most
of
the
people
in
the
public
didn't
even
know
we
were
going
to
have
this,
even
though
it
was
on
the
agenda.
People
were
shocked
to
see
an
item
that
was
220
million
and
especially,
if
we're,
if
this
is
leading
to
a
rate,
increase
what
whatever
the
legal
requirement
is.
We
need
to
do
double
or
triple
of
that
to
inform
the
public
we
need
to.
We
need
to
really
let
them
know.
R
When
the
we
worked
on
the
pipes
increase,
there
were
like
four
or
five
public
meetings
that
maybe
20
or
30
people
attended.
Besides
staff,
I
attended
more
than
half
of
them
and
and
the
public
when
they
got
their
bills,
were
upset
because
they
didn't.
They
didn't
know
that
the
bill
was
going
up.
We
need
to
to
over
communicate
this
and
explain
what
it
is.
The
other
thing
is,
I
don't
like.
R
I
don't
like
the
expectation
that
city
council
is
a
rubber
stamp
and
that
we're
just
going
to
prove
everything
and
that
a
15
or
minute
or
hour
long
conversation
is
enough
to
get
us
to
prove
a
rate
increase
or
220
million
dollars,
a
rate
increase
in
a
situation
where
people
are
getting
kicked
out
of
their
homes
because
they
can't
afford
it
is
a
big
deal.
That's
why
a
main
reason
why
I
object
to
pure
also,
why
would
you
double
somebody's
water
rates
for
something
that
we
don't
need
in
this
case?
R
Just
a
few
quick
questions
on
all
these
consultants.
You
mentioned
sorry,
I
have
to
ask
this,
but
was
there
a
an
rfp
process
and
were
there
multiple
bidders
on
those
contracts
we
haven't?
We
haven't
gotten
that
far
on
that,
on
the
the
the
planning,
the
the
planning
and
evaluation
stage,
several
consultants
were
mentioned
where
those
were
there,
where
they
needed
an
evaluation
of
to
get
to
that.
Q
The
the
original
rfp
was
put
out
for
the
design
build
contract.
Q
Q
So
what
happens
is
that
we
we
contract
with
them
for
design,
build.
They
go
out
and
design
the
the
retrofit
of
the
plant,
they
design
the
components
they
go
out
and
they
bid
what
it's
going
to
cost
and
then
they
take
those
bids
and
they
compile
them,
and
they
give
us
the
pricing
that
we're
talking
about.
That's
that's
where
the
17
million
came
from.
I.
R
Q
R
Appreciate
and
and
if
we
had
time,
I
would
ask
you
a
lot
more
questions
about
that,
but
I
would
just
appreciate
transparency
and
all
that
from
from
the
administration
you
know,
the
legal
department
gave
us
an
opinion
on
the
ccna
process
for
hannah
avenue.
R
I've
had
several
other
attorneys
outside
look
at
it
and
they
think
it's
bunk
just
because
we
might
be
able
to
squeak
through
that
something's
legal
doesn't
mean
that
it
would
withstand
outside
scrutiny
in
a
lawsuit,
and
so
you
know
we
we
need
to
be
not
just
careful
about
that
to
avoid
litigation,
but
we
need
to
be
fair
to
the
public
to
make
sure
that
things
are
well
advertised
and
that
we
get
multiple
bids.
R
Mr
o'hara,
could
I
ask
you
also
when,
when
we
decided,
when
the
city
decided
to
make
this
decision
to
take
over
this
plant,
did
you
do
a
20
or
30
year
analysis
on
what
the
cost
would
be?
I
don't
I
don't
recall,
did
somebody
do
an
evaluation
to
say?
Okay,
the
boiler
is
going
to
need
to
be
replaced
in
five
years,
or
now
it's
been
two
years.
You
say
that
it's
eight
years
it's
been
eight
years
since
it's
been
modified,
so
we've
owned
it
two
of
those
years.
R
How
come
we
didn't
if
we
did
a
pre-evaluation?
Why
didn't
we
propose
this
two
years
ago?.
Q
Q
We,
we
didn't,
have
really
much
to
go
on
these
projects
by
city
policy
have
to
go
through
cad
contract
administration
and
they
kind
of
take
that
over
by
entering
into
an
agreement
with
charles
perry.
Let.
R
Me,
let
me
ask
you
before
they
cut
me
off.
Let
me
ask
you
sorry
what
mr
o'hara
do
you
know
that
you
know
when
we
asked
when
we
were
first
told
about
about
pure
it
was
300
million
dollars,
but
when
we
asked
for
the
the
20
year
30-year
cost,
it
was
between
2
and
6
billion,
including
o
m
and
interest.
R
Do
we
know,
and
it's
not
an
argument
against
this,
but
just
so
the
public
knows
what
is
the
20
or
30
year
cost,
including
interest
and
o
m
on
this
on
this
entire
plant?
We.
R
Projections
on
on,
if
we
have
10
million
in
revenues-
and
I
I
don't
think
this
is
going
to
increase
our
revenues-
correct-
we're
going
to
put
out
the
same
capacity
electricity,
but
when
we,
when
we
took
over
the
plant,
nobody
did
a
projection
to
figure
out
what
the
total
20
or
30
year
cost
on
this
would
be.
I.
R
R
Know
if
there's
somebody
who's
watching,
please
come
up
and
let
us
know
how
would
you
how-
and
maybe
this
is
a
question
for
mr
conklin,
but
he
said
you
know
we
want
to
have
success
in
in
five
or
ten
years.
How
would
we
measure
success?
What
what
are
what
what
I
know
chief
of
staff
is
all
into
measures
which
I
agree
with.
What
are
what
are
the
city's
measures
of
success
or,
in
your
experience,
what
should
the
measures
of
success
that.
Q
Would
come
from
operational
stats
and
avoided
costs
for
the
most
part,
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
we're
trying
to
bring
this
plant
this
facility
back
up
to
industry
standards
where
it
should
be
and
increase
its
availability.
So
it's
not
being
you
know,
forced
down
for
problems
within
the
plant.
Now,
with
our
plan,
we're
going
to
see
an
increase
in
electrical
revenue
through
increasing
increases
in
electrical
production,
they're
not
going
to
be
huge
but
they're
going
to
get
that
turbine
generator
back
to
where
it
should
be.
Q
They
could
be
a
three
percent
four
percent
or
higher
increase
in
efficiency
on
the
turbine,
the
boilers,
for
instance,
the
tubes.
Some
of
the
tubes
are
connected.
R
Back
to
my
question:
do
you
do
you
have
a
list
of
of
goals
that
say
our
objectives,
for
this
are
one
two
three
four
and
five
here
here
are
our
goals
for
this
we
want
to
an
example
would
be
a
safety,
a
goal.
Another
would
be
an
environmental
goal,
another
one
might
be
a
energy
production
goal.
Another
would
might
be
a
a
time
in
and
out
goal
for
the
trucks
I
mean
do
we
does
somebody
have
a
performance
metric
like
that.
Q
I
I
do.
I
have
one
that
shows
reliability
of
the
facility
of
the
borders
independently
each
one
and
overall,
and
I
also
have
availability.
You
know.
Availability
is
out
of
the
available
time.
How
much
time
were
the
boilers
up
and
running,
burning
refuse
producing
steam.
Reliability,
on
the
other
hand,
is
out
of
all
the
downtime
on
the
unit.
How
much
it
was
of
it
was
forced
compared
to
how
much
was.
R
It
I
would
just
if
the
chief
of
staff
was
watching.
I
would
just
suggest
that
we
get
a
list
of
very
clear
goals
from
the
community
point
of
view
and
from
a
policy
point
of
view
that
are
kind
of
the
overriding
goals
for
this
facility,
because
there's
a
policy
reason
why
we're
doing
it
they're
always
going
to
be
performance,
metrics
and,
and
we
and
somehow
we
need
to
bring
those
up
to
the
top
level.
R
But
if
we
have
those-
and
we
can
see
them,
the
public
can
see
them,
then
we
can
all
be
on
the
same
page
about
about
investments
for
the
future,
and
we
would
know
how
to
measure
them.
My
my
last
question
is
to
mr
o'hara.
Yes,
you
must
have
an
idea
right
now,
based
on
the
numbers,
you
have
what
you
think
the
rate
increase
will
be,
so
we
do
not
no
no.
P
R
P
R
Last
comment:
I
just
want
to
thank
all
the
people
working
in
this
department.
What
you
all
do
is
a
miracle.
I
was
telling
the
staff
the
other
day
being
able
to
put
our
our
boxes
out
in
front
of
our
house
and
have
them
have
that
stuff
taken
away
so
efficiently.
It's
got
to
be
one
of
the
best
run
sanitation
departments
in
the
in
the
country,
and
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
the
hard
work
they're
doing.
R
E
B
B
That's
right
with
the
improvements
on
this.
We
already
have
scrubbers
that
that
the
the
smoke
coming
out
of
this
takes
away.
Carcinogens
takes
away
things
that
are
with
the
improvements
on
this
is
this
turbine
and
these
things
going
to
run
much
more
efficiently,
so
we
actually
even
cut
down
the
pollution
that
this
incidental
rain
may
cause.
B
Q
This
this
shows
we
have
continuous
emissions
monitoring
on
the
plan
that
run
24
hours
a
day
seven
days
a
week,
and
this
shows
the
results
of
the
month
of
july
compared
to
the
limits.
If
you
look
where
it
says
opacity,
our
limit
is
ten
percent,
but
then
you
look
down
at
at
the
month
year
columns
you
can
see
unit
one.
Q
You
can
see
unit
one
unit,
two
unit,
three
unit,
four,
now
opacity,
you
can
see
about
eight
percent.
With
your
naked
eye.
We
we
are
below
one
percent,
our
limit's
ten
percent
yeah.
B
For
success,
we're
doing
great-
my
point
is
with
with
the
with
this
improvement,
we're
gonna
be
even
better
than
what
these
standards
are
now.
Q
B
J
Exactly
great
point,
so
I
do
want
to
touch
on
that
as
well.
The
the
life
of
a
landfill,
it's
limited.
You
can't
just
continuously
pump
waste
until
they
land
landfills.
On
average,
we
take
around
40
000
pounds
of
waste
to
date,
city.
So
now
imagine
356
thousand
pounds
to
that
city.
Excuse
me:
sun
excuses,
tons,
exactly
tons.
If
that
work
to
happen.
Potentially
they
have
a
lifespan
of,
I
believe,
five
to
eight
years
right
now,
but
that's
all
dependent
on
the
other
municipalities
and
how
much
they're
bringing
to
that
location.
So
they're
dead.
B
J
B
B
I'm
sorry,
oh
yeah
go
ahead
all
right,
I'm
just
trying
to
hit
you
on
this.
Okay.
We
even
though
we
have
natural
gas
trucks,
hopefully
one
day,
we'll
go
to
electric,
which
we
don't
have
we're
putting
fossil
fuel
into
the
air
each
time
those
trucks
run
back
and
forth
back
and
forth
back
and
forth.
J
J
J
Q
B
D
I
had
just
one
more
question,
I'm
thinking
about,
for
when
you
bring
us
this
back
in
front
of
the
public.
We
are
growing
at
an
alarming
rate.
It's
a
good
rate,
but
it's
still
pretty
alarming
and
doesn't
sound
like
we're,
adding
any
incinerators.
So
what's
the
plan
about
more
garbage,
yeah.
S
The
more
I
sit
here,
the
more
I
listen,
the
more
I
want
to
speak
because
I
remember
way
back
when
all
the
alleys
were
open.
You
had
a
van
that
went
by
a
truck
that
was
open
that
maybe
had
a
three
foot
by
eight
foot
by
16
or
twenty
foot,
and
you
had
a
driver.
You
had
two
pushers
and
you
had
a
catcher.
You
had
four
people
on
the
truck
and
it
was
an
open
truck
and
guess
what
everyone
here
smell
follow
my
things
around
them
over
on
the
roads
of
tampa.
S
That
has
been
changed
so
now,
through
evolution
and
new
inventions.
You
have
a
different
thing
now:
you're
getting
gas
trucks,
however,
those
gas
trucks
and
mass
summation
cost
three
quarters
of
a
million
dollars.
What's
coming
to
you
now
is
a
million
dollar
truck,
which
is
electric
and
what
I
see
coming
even
in
germany.
Now
you
know
what
kind
of
trains
they
got
running
with
hydrogen,
so
these
are
things
of
evolution
that
we
have
to
accept,
because
these
are
the
things
that
are
going
to
change.
If
we
keep
going
to
where
we're
going.
S
M
R
Yes,
I
just
like
the
state
for
the
record,
I'm
I'm
shocked
at
the
discussions
we've
had
today
and
the
one
I
had
on
the
phone
the
other
day,
I'm
shocked
at
the
staff,
and
this
is
I'm
trying
to
upper
management,
so
I'm
shocked
at
the
lack
of
interest
in
being
transparent
and
and
spending
time
with
the
public
to
discuss
these
issues.
I'm
shocked
that
they
hit
us
with
large
numbers
at
the
last
minute
and
I'm
shocked
that
they
can
answer
basic
questions
about
the
strategy
and
takeover
of
this
facility.
R
The
questions
I
asked
are
the
are
the
most
basic
questions.
You
would
ask
anybody
in
operating
a
major
facility
and
they
couldn't
answer
the
questions
and
so
there's
no
way,
I'm
going
to
vote
to
give
them
a
dollar,
because
I
don't
have
faith
in
their
in
their
interest
in
in
being
respectful
of
us
and
the
public,
and
I
don't
have
faith
in
their
ability
to
manage
this
money
correctly.
R
H
H
You
know
you
have
to
take
care
of
that
plant
to
make
it
work
for
citizens,
but
he's
right
some
basic
questions
he
did
ask
and
when
I
talked
about
pre-maintenance
things
like
that,
we
couldn't
have
the
answers
for
so
I
think
when
you
come
back
and
in
future
listen
to
other
staff
members,
you
need
to
become
more
prepared
on
the
basic
answers
because
he's
right
some
things
that
we
should.
You
should
know
off
the
top
of
our
head
of.
H
H
If
someone
make
someone
making
me
feel
bad
or
what
have
you
counsel
has
to
answer
to
the
public,
it's
our
job,
whether
anybody
likes
it
or
not,
when
the
public
tells
us
what
they
want
or
that's
what
we
want,
the
administration
may
not
like
it,
but
we
have
to
ask
the
tough
question
it's
their
money,
so
I'm
gonna
support
it
today,
number
five,
so
I'm
hoping
the
rest
when
it
comes
back
that
we're
a
little
bit
more
detailed
to
what
we
have
to
get
out.
Thank
you,
sir.
D
D
I'm
gonna
support
both
five
and
six
because
they're
basically
intertwined,
and
but
I
I
absolutely
want
to
know
these-
these
more
basic
questions,
the
answers
to
so
that
we
can
answer
our
constituents.
I
mean
I
would.
I
would
say
that
councilman
goods
is
right.
We
all
have
our
specialties
and
this
is
not
my
specialty,
so
I
definitely
need
to
be
taught.
I
want
the
basic
as
councilman
carlson
put
it.
Kindergarten
like
introduction
so
give
us
lots
of
pictures.
Give
us
lots
of.
D
You
know
numbers
just
just
let
help
us
absorb
it
so
that
we
can
explain
it
to
others,
because
that's
actually
what
we
do
we're
teachers
y'all
are
teaching
us
and
then
we
have
to
go
out
and
teach
the
community,
and
if
we
don't
have
that,
if
we
don't
understand
it,
then
we
can't
do
that.
So
that's
a
really
good
point,
so
I
will
be
supporting
this
today.
But
yes,
we
really
we
d.
We
do
need
to
have
that
public.
The
public
discussion.
G
D
G
R
G
B
J
S
E
Yes,
sir,
real
quick
and
what
I
wanted
to
mention
earlier,
looking
at
the
bigger
picture
and
moving
the
facility
from
spruce
over
to
eborcetti
adamo
34th,
what
is
that
18
acres,
that
of
land
that
will
be
freed
up.
K
E
And
when
we
talk
about
affordable
housing,
when
we
talk
about
opportunities,
that's
our
property,
that's
city,
owned
in
the
heart
of
my
district,
give
or
take
it's.
You
know.
Q
E
Very
busy
area,
carver
city,
lincoln,
gardens
west
shore
area.
We
have
a
great
opportunity
there
not
to
sell
it,
but
to
keep
it
within
our
jurisdiction
and
do
something
even
more
beneficial
for
the
community.
On
top
of
what
was
mentioned
earlier,
and
thank
you
for
councilwoman
hertag
for
bringing
this
up
the
community
that's
been
dealing
with.
You
know
having
all
that
there
now
there's
you
know.
Sky's
the
limit.
18
acres
is
a
lot.
E
We
see
midtown
right
around
the
corner.
I
know
it's
a
bigger
parcel,
but
we
see
what
was
developed
there,
but
what
we
could
use
as
city
property.
So
there's
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
in
this
220
million
dollar.
You
know
master
plan,
but
that
was
it.
I
just
want
to
mention
that
so
move
the
resolution.
I
already
did
councilman.
B
H
And
I
missed
that
in
my
thought,
but
councilmember
hurt
brought
it
up.
I
see
miss
travis
in
the
old
audience,
so
I'm
hoping
that
these
discussions
are
happening
with
her,
because
I
will
not
support
any
land
sale
that
does
not
have
a
robust
plan
for
leaking
gardens,
carver
city
and
affordable
housing,
and
I'm
talking
about
real
real
development
that
will
help
people
not
talking
about
luxury
apartments,
not
talking
about
luxury
town
homes,
excuse
but
making
sure
that
anybody
can,
because
that
is
city
property.
H
D
H
R
G
R
D
R
E
Second,
that's
fair
and
I
think
the
public
deserves,
as
councilmember
carlson
said,
the
public
deserves
to
know.
This
is
a
lot
of
money.
251
million
dollars
was
a
stormwater
assessment
in
2016..
That
was
a
big
discussion.
E
I
think
this
clearly
merits
that,
especially
if
there's
going
to
be
rate
increases
whatever
I
want
complete
clarity,
and
I
and
I
I
have
confidence
in
your
team-
and
I
totally
support
that.
Yes,
sir.
S
B
S
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
may
I
ask
there's
a
couple
of
folks
that
I
see
I
think,
there's
about
the
downtown
and
the
west
shore.
Maybe
we
can
have
them
talk
about
their
things.
That
comes
on
a
yearly
item,
so
we
can
get
them
going
to
go
back
to
their
businesses.
E
All
the
ones
that
are
pertaining
to
the
the
special
taxing.
M
Morning,
chair
morning,
council
victory
day,
mobility,
department,
narrative
distress,
items
101
and
102..
These
are
annual
assessment
roles
or
for
the
stormwater
service
and
improvement
assessment.
The
service
assessment
is
for
maintenance
of
the
storm
water
system
across
the
city.
This
includes
pitch
maintenance,
outfall
maintenance
and
various
other
aspects.
M
Improvement
assessment
is
related
to
our
capital
program,
for
which
we
do
provide
a
quarterly
report
of
our
capital
improvement
projects
with
storm
water,
and
we
have
several
large
storm
water
projects
going
on
currently
around
the
city.
This
is
an
annual
process
right
before
budget
approval
and
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Any.
S
S
Very
quickly,
I
know
I
had
a
discussion
with
mr
vijay
and
very
very
well
conversation
regarding
these
type
of
taxes
and
so
forth.
The
problem
that
we
have
is
that
once
we
pass
something
here
in
city
council,
there's
not
a
check
and
balance
as
to
what
happens
through
the
front
of
that
building
regarding
how
much
payment
or
how
many
papers
it's
passed
today,
but
tomorrow
when
these
papers
go
on
and
he
agreed,
I
believe-
and
I
did
in
theory
that
they
don't
know
what's
happening
so
when
they
come
in
for
a
permit.
S
They
give
them
the
permit.
However,
if
something
happens-
and
I
do
something
wrong-
the
fellow
who
who
I
sell
the
house
to
he
may
be
the
one
to
get
ticketed
for
something
that
he
didn't
even
know
about,
so
and
and
that
spirit
of
conversation
of
me
and
helping
everyone,
because
these
things
now
are
much
more
being
done
than
before,
and
we
have
to
have
a
way
that
once
we
pass
something
like
this
or
something
to
do
with
a
swale
next
to
a
house
when
we
do
that,
that
is
put
on
the
docket.
S
So
when
they
record
it,
they
go
to
get
their
permit
done,
is
recorded
in
the
county.
What
we
passed,
because
if
you
don't
do
that
this
well
gets
covered
somebody
else,
floods.
If
we
don't
do
that,
the
sidewalk
is
there,
maybe,
but
then
the
pavers
that
go
out
or
the
concrete
that
goes
out
to
the
street
they're,
paying
very
little
when
they
should
be
paying
a
lot
more.
So
the
rest
of
us
are
subsidizing
someone
else
for
what
they've
done,
I'm
just
oh
now
we
have
an
attorney
here
and
are
very
welcome.
Good
morning.
G
Good
afternoon,
mr
chair
and
council
item
101
is
your
storm?
Oh
sorry,
maclean
evans,
assistant
city
attorney.
Thank
you
item.
101
is
the
stormwater
service
assessment
rule
it's
a
public
mus,
it's
a
public
hearing
where
public
comment
must
be
heard.
We
received
two
letters
of
objection
for
your
consideration.
G
N
B
G
Attorney
this
is
the
public
hearing
on
the
non-adverb
assessment
for
the
stormwater
capital
improvement
assessment
role.
We
received
one
letter
of
objection
for
your
consideration.
Please
receive
and
file
that.
B
G
And
again,
if
I
could
just
remind
you
that
the
vote
has
to
take
place,
while
the
hearing
is
still
open.
I
This
is
the
non-avalorum
assessment.
That's
passed
every
year
to
support
the
operation
of
the
streetcar
special
assessment.
I
think
mr
english
is
online
to
present
that
to
you
all.
As
with
the
other
special
assessment
hearings,
you
must
consider
and
vote
on
this
while
the
public
hearing
is
still
open.
M
Yes,
I
am
good
afternoon,
mr
chairman
and
council
members.
Thank
you
so
much,
I'm
here
to
ask
for
your
support,
as
I've
been
doing
for
20
years,
for
the
special
assessment
to
support
the
operations
of
the
streetcar
system.
M
This
assessment
is
really
accounts
for
over
well
over
30
percent
of
the
streetcars
budget.
I
assume
you
know
that
we've
had
a
very
good
year
this
year
carrying
nearly
a
million
people.
Our
budget
next
year
is
a
little
higher
than
this
year's
to
add
service.
We
are
adding
conductors
and
we
are
increasing
headways,
which
means
the
amount
of
time
it
takes
for
the
streetcar
to
arrive
at
a
station
from
15
minutes,
which
is
our
new
standard
to
12
minutes
during
peak
hours.
E
E
Mr
english
already
talked
about
a
million
people
riding
we've
seen
the
numbers
go
up,
especially
with
the
grant
that
we
received
from
fdot
and
allowing
us
to
operate
the
streetcar
and
offer
no
fares.
E
That's
encouraged
people
to
that
have
would
have
not
usually
ridden
the
streetcar
or
a
new
population
to
start
using
it
and
as
people
have
gotten
used
to
using
it.
I
think
we'll
see
continued
success
again
once
aft
passes
and
we
are
able
to
expand
this
forward.
I
know
the
mayor
talks
about
taking
it
to
palm
avenue.
E
D
I
echo
that
as
someone
who
rides
the
streetcar
at
least
once
a
week,
I
am
thrilled
about
the
this
new
plan
to
run
every
12
minutes
instead
of
15.
It
will
actually
really
help
a
lot
of
people.
I
am
constantly
amazed
at
the
the
the
number
of
writers
and
the
types
of
writers.
I
talk
to
tourists
all
the
time
and
I'm
on
there.
I
talk
to
people
who
work
for
the
city
I
talk
to
yesterday.
D
I
rode
the
troll,
the
streetcar,
with
folks
who
were
leaving
their
nursing
school
from
the
new
usf
health
space.
So
it's
it
really
has
just
changed
the
city
and
I'm
absolutely
agree
that
passing
off
for
transportation
would
would
add
to
that
support
of
the
streetcar
system.
S
Miranda,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Of
course,
I'm
going
to
approve
this
and
my
vote
it's
coming
to.
Let
you
know
that
when
I
was
a
young
kid
about
two
years
ago,
I
used
to
ride
that
streetcar
for
a
nickel
and
it
had
50
some
miles
of
it
went
all
the
way
from
ballast
point
all
the
way
to
lime,
ball
and
florida
avenue
not
only
to
mention
hyde
park,
ybor
city
east
tampa
all
over
and
the
problem
was
in
the
50s.
S
Well,
we
did
and
we
were
idiots
now
we
don't
have
a
streak
or
to
speak
of
other
than
what
we
have
now
and
that
was
put
in
by
the
greco
administration,
who
also
rode
the
streetcar
for
a
nickel,
but
he
was
much
older
than
I
was
and
what
I'm
trying
to
say,
it's
a
compliment,
mr
grickle,
and
that
was
done
by
the
greco
administration
ron,
rotella
and
the
rest
of
them
trying
to
get
it
through,
and
I
think
if,
when
we
voted
on
it,
I
believe
the
cost
was
11
million,
I'm
not
sure
of
that.
O
B
M
B
I
Item
104
is
the
annual
nonprofit
assessment
role
for
to
support
the
downtown
special
services
district.
I
think
mrs
miss
linda
raymond
from
the
downtown
partnership
is
here
to
present
that
we
levy
this
special
assessment
for
our
non-aberlorn
assessment
to
support
special
services
in
the
downtown
and
channel
side
areas,
primarily
so.
M
Yes,
thank
you
linda
raymond,
with
the
tampa
downtown
partnership
president
and
ceo.
Our
offices
are
located
at
400,
north
ashley
street
suite
1010
and
councilman
mr
chair,
thank
you
so
much
for
having
us
today.
I
am
here
to
ask
you
for
consideration
of
adoption
of
the
non-ad
valorem
for
the
downtown
district,
so
that
we
can
provide
enhanced
services
regarding
business,
development,
marketing
maintenance,
safety,
beautification.
M
Costs,
as
you
know,
we've
been
in
existence
since
1994
for
the
special
services
district
and
that
assessment
rate
is
set
at
1.0285
per
thousand
dollars
of
assessed
property
values
which
is
expected
to
raise
about
4.6
million
for
this
next
year.
So
I
ask
for
your
consideration
and
adoption
of
that,
so
we
can
continue
services
and
the
adoption
of
the
special
services
agreement
that
we
have
with
the
city
of
tampa
and
the
tampa
downtown
partnership.
I
B
I
I
S
Councilman
miranda,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
and
your
whole
staff,
for
what
they've
done
downtown
couldn't
be
any
cleaner.
You've
done
a
fantastic
job
and
everywhere
you
see,
you
see
the
individuals
wearing
their
shirts
with
who
they
are
and
what
they
do,
and
I
even
seen
some
giving
cars
a
battery
thing,
so
they
can
start
the
car
up
and
just
thank
you,
the
the
pleasant
to
the
eye.
S
The
big
bows
that
you
put
up
are
fantastic,
maybe
just
maybe,
if
you
have
something
left
over,
obviously
some
handing
plants
so
that
more
visual
to
the
eye
from
the
from
the
streetlights
that
we
have
will
be
an
addition
that
is
very
pleasant
to
the
eye.
Thank
you
so
much.
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
Any.
R
R
B
I
Mr
chair,
this
is
a
public
hearing
on
to
consider
the
adoption
of
the
non-avalorum
assessment
role
for
special
services
within
the
west
shore
area
of
the
city
of
tampa.
There's
also,
a
resolution
companion
resolution
approving
an
agreement
between
the
city
of
tampa
and
the
west
shore
alliance
to
receive
those
funds
and
administer
those
funds
for
those
services.
On
behalf
of
the
city,
I
think
mr
michael
mourinho
is
here
from
the
west
shore
alliance
to
present.
M
Yes,
good
afternoon,
chairman
and
council
members,
I'm
michael
moreno,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
western
alliance.
We
are
seeking
your
support
today
to
renew
the
federal
services
district
in
the
west
shore
district.
The
rate
is
not
changing
and
the
overall
assessment
will
be
792
000,
roughly
thereabouts,
the
funds
go
for
transportation,
marketing
and
safety
and
security
programs,
and,
if
not,
I'm
here,
to
answer
any
questions.
Otherwise,
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
to
improve
the
washer
district
and
the
city
of
tampa.
Thank
you
any
comments
or
questions.
S
Again
just
say
thank
you
for
what
you've
done
you've
you
set
the
phone
here
when.
M
D
I
just
wanna
say
mr
marino
took
me
on
a
tour
of
the
west
shore
alliance
just
recently,
and
it
was
really
great
to
see
all
the
things
that
the
alliance
is
doing
the
plans
they
have,
and
so
I
really
look.
I
support
this
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
more
of
what
of
what
the
alliance
can
help
accomplish
throughout
through
their
district.
B
E
B
M
M
The
proposed
assessment
for
2022
would
be
2.14
per
lot,
which
would
generate
a
total
of
seventy
two
dollars
and
seventy
six
cents
total
revenue
for
2023.
The
special
assessment
for
2023
would
be
a
maximum
of
55.75
per
lot.
This
assessment
would
continue
for
20
years.
The
resolution
presented
to
you
also
approves
the
required
agreement
between
the
city
and
the
tax
collector
for
services
regarding
to
relating
to
the
assessment,
and
just
a
reminder
that
your
vote
needs
to
also
occur
during
the
public
hearing.
The
applicant
is
here:
if
you
have
any
questions.
S
I
got
massey
on
the
gun
right
there.
I
wanna
see.
M
B
I
I
think
we
opened
one
through
106..
If
you
want
to
know.
B
I
As
well,
we
can,
but
I
think
the
clerk
had
wanted
a
quick
motion
to
close
those
public
hearings
that
we
opened.
B
I
B
B
B
Let's
that's
here
on
agenda
number
107
cra,
22-7,
six,
one
two
one
uh-oh,
I
I
think
miss
travis
is
saying
no.
We
don't
want
to
hear
that
now
we
want
to
wait
till
we
come
back
from
lunch.
It's.
G
G
You
use
action
that
you've
seen
at
your
cra,
sorry,
nicole,
travis,
administrator
of
development
and
economic
opportunity
and
your
interim
cra
director.
You
heard
you
took
this
up
at
your
cra
recently
at
your
crm
meeting.
This
is
really
the
public
hearing
for
proposed
modifications
to
the
channel
district
cra
that
would
amend
or
re
restate
or
supersede
the
existing
cra
plan.
B
Any
comments
or
questions
for
miss
travis:
this
is.
B
That
next
any
public
comment
to
agenda
item
number
107.,
move
to
close
a
motion
to
close
by
councilman
mattis
miranda
seconded
by
councilman
goods,
all
in
favor
aye.
Who
would
like
to
move
the
resolution
I'll
move.
Second
promotion
made
by
councilman
miranda
is
seconded
by
councilman
mataskayako
royal
carver.