►
From YouTube: TCC 1/19/23
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
A
A
A
A
A
A
C
Thank
you
very
much,
Mr
chairman,
it's
my
pleasure
this
morning
to
welcome
a
frequent
visitor
here
to
Tampa
City
Council,
to
give
the
invocation
Pastor
Nance,
who
is
a
friend
to
many
of
us
and
a
familiar
face
whom
you
know,
sir,
if
you'd
like
to
come
to
the
lectern
and
please
stand
for
the
invocation
and
remain
standing
for
the
pledge.
D
Well,
let's
pray,
Our
Father!
We
just
want
to
thank
you
so
much
for
your
grace
and
your
kindness
upon
us
and
Lord.
We
want
to
thank
you
for
your
multitude
of
blessings
and
father.
We
thank
you
for
the
City
of
Tampa
and
how
you
have
blessed
us
and
Lord
how
you've
just
protected
us
and
kept
us
in
so
many
ways,
and
we
look
to
you
and
just
want
to
praise
your
name
for
that
Lord.
As
we
come
to
the
city
council
Lord.
D
We
know
that
this
is
a
body
that
makes
many
decisions
and
discerns
the
direction
of
our
of
our
city
and
Lord.
We
pray
that
you
would
grant
them
wisdom
and
favor
and
help
and
Lord
I
I
just
pray
that
you
would
give
them
Lord
what
they
need.
I
pray
that
you
would
be
with
our
mayor,
I
pray
that
you
would
be
with
our
law
enforcement,
I
pray
that
you
had
blessed
their
homes
bless
their
lives
and
father.
D
We
just
want
to
thank
you
for
the
love
that
you
have
for
us
and
the
protection
that
you
give
to
us
on
a
daily
basis.
Lord,
if
there
are
special
burdens
in
this
room,
Lord
I
pray
that
you
would
help
and,
minister
to
those-
and
we
want
to
tell
you
that
we
love
you
and
we're
thankful
for
you
and
it's
in
Jesus
name.
We
pray,
amen.
C
F
G
B
A
B
All
in
favor
say
aye
aye
aye
is
there.
Any
opposed
motion
has
passed.
Let's
go
through
the
approval
of
the
agenda.
Excuse
me,
I'm,
sorry,
showing.
H
B
Motion
made
by
councilman
maniscotto
seconded
by
councilman
Gooch,
all
in
favor
aye.
Is
there
any
opposed?
Thank
you
very
much.
All
right.
We
will
go
through
the
agenda
item
now.
First,
we
will
hear
not
at
this
time,
but
we're
going
to
talk
to
some
we're
going
to
have
conversations
with
Zoo
Tampa
administrative
updates.
I
have
we
are
going
to
have
two
things
come
up
first,
at
administrative
updates.
We
will
be
discussing
the
proposed
Charter
changes.
B
I
It's
my
understanding
from
the
agenda
review
yesterday
that
and
honor
of
Mr
Shelby
can
help
us
here,
but
there's
several
walk-on
items,
and
then
we
had
sent
a
memo
in
to
have
item
two
37
brought
up
to
two
and
item
eight
brought
up
to
two
to
support
Chief
Tripp's
timeline.
So
whatever
pleasure
is
Council
between
the
Walk-Ons
at
item
two
we're
here
to
support.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
B
B
B
C
B
B
Miss
Duncan
will
be
talking
12
and
13.
At
the
same
time,
and
along
with
that
items,
number
27
and
28
will
also
be
discussed
at
that
time.
27
28.
B
You
maker,
the
motion
is
me
for
17..
Yes,
please
and
thank
you
number
18
councilman
Carlson.
That
is
I,
believe
that
that
has
been
requested
to
move
to
February
23rd.
I
B
B
B
Andy
addendum,
yes,
thank
you
very
much.
We
have
a
motion
made
by
councilman
Maniscalco
seconded
by
councilman
Miranda,
all
in
favor
aye.
Is
there
any
objection.
C
And
Mr
chairman
I,
don't
know
if
we
can,
we
should
do
it
now
or
then.
But
item
number
59
there's
a
request
that
the
item
be
continued
to
April
20th.
L
Good
morning,
I'm
Joe
casera
I'm,
the
CEO
of
Zoo
Tampa
I,
have
the
privilege
of
working
with
a
bunch
of
really
good
people
and
a
few
need
animals
as
well
I'd
like
to
introduce
Ronnie
Allen,
who
is
manages
our
ambassador
program,
which
reaches
out
to
all
of
our
guests
with
up
close
encounters,
not
just
at
the
zoo,
but
in
the
Outreach
capacities
like
this
one
Ronnie.
Would
you
like
to
tell
them
a
little
bit
about
what
friends
you
may
be
playing
with
today.
M
Well,
welcome
everyone.
It
is
a
pleasure
to
be
here
with
all
of
you
this
morning
and
my
name
is
Ronnie
like
Joe
said-
and
this
is
the
first
thing
we'll
have
my
teammates
this
year
is
Charlotte
she's
a
prehensile
tail
porcupine,
and
this
is
Silvio.
He
is
a
southern
vested
tomato
or
anteater,
so
a
Zoo
Tampa
our
ambassador
program.
Our
goal
is
to
inspire
guests
and
to
connect
them
with
wildlife
in
the
up,
close
and
personal
way.
Just
like
we're
doing
with
you
guys
today.
M
So
it's
our
privilege
to
be
here
and
these
animals
are
both
native
to
South
America
and
there
are
over
500
species
native
to
South
America
that
are
currently
endangered.
So
it's
a
huge
goal
of
artists
to
connect
people
with
wildlife
and
try
to
connect
them
with
ways
that
they
can
help
their
species
either
from
Florida
or
wherever
they
may
call
home.
N
I
just
want
to
say
about
the
zoo
in
general
that
these
things
would
have
been
possible
if
it
wasn't
for
your
leadership
and
everyone
under
you.
Every
time
I
visit
the
zoo,
even
from
the
Walking
In,
where
the
people
reach
at
first
they're,
just
all
first
class,
they
smile,
they
say
good
morning
good
afternoon
good
evening
and
they
treat
you
with.
N
They
can
be
an
honor
and
without
that
the
zoo
could
have
never
done
what
it
did
and
I'm
sure
you're
going
to
speak
about
it,
but
I'm
not
trying
to
steal
your
thunder
anyone
else's
Thunder,
but
which
all
of
you
every
employee
yourself
and
everyone
that
visit
there.
You
have
set
records
that
and
I'll.
N
Let
you
talk
about
the
records
later
on
I'm
not
going
to
go
there,
but
it's
just
an
amazing
thing
and
I
hope
that
the
zoo
continues
to
grow
as
when,
when
I
started
in
Council
back
in
the
70s,
not
that
I
stayed
all
the
way
from
70s
to
here.
Let
me
clarify
that.
It
is
something
that
the
people
that
come
on
vacation.
We
were
never
a
destination
point.
N
All
of
you
you'll
be
commended
for
because
the
gratitude
that
you
have
in
receiving
all
these
people
from
all
over
the
country
and
all
over
the
world,
really
it's
an
amazing
thing
that
you've
done
and
it's
made
the
Tampa
citizens
much
happier
much
enthused
much
involved
in
the
climate
of
the
world,
and
you
guys
are
to
be
recognized
for
a
lot
more
than
this.
But
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
each
and
every
one
of
you
for
doing
what
you've
done,
which
you
continue
to
do
and
what
you
will
do.
Thank
you
very
much.
N
J
Yeah
I
just
want
to
say
thanks
to
all
of
you,
for
your
leadership
and
for
all
the
companies
and
people
that
sponsor
the
zoo.
You
know
when
the
when
this
zoo
was
designed.
I
don't
know
how,
many
years
ago
it
was
a
really
Innovative
design
and
similar
to
the
airport.
It's
something
that
has
that
makes
people
in
Tampa
proud
and
gives
us
a
great
name
all
over
the
world
people
when
they
talk
about
great
zoos
and
great
facilities.
They
talk
about
Tampa.
So
thank
you
for
all.
J
You
do
and
thank
you
for
I,
don't
know
if
you're
going
to
talk
about
expansion
plans
today,
but
thank
you
for
continuing
to
innovate
and
evolve,
because
there's
more
of
the
story
to
tell
and
I
know
you
all
have
some
exciting
plans.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
Anyone.
B
L
B
Amazing
right
here
in
our
city,
I,
can
remember
when
back
in
the
70s,
when
I
was
in
high
school,
going
to
Zoo
Tampa
and
the
expansion
and
the
growth,
especially
now
at
the
big
cat,
exhibit
you
guys
have
had
and
I
hear,
there's
other
things
that
are
planned
like
rescues
and
hospitals.
I
can't
wait
to
see
the
outcome
of
that.
Thank
you
very
much
for
bringing
your
staff
everyone
back
in
the
back
there
and
these
wonderful
animals
for
us
to
see.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
L
We
we're
here
today
to
just
kind
of
give
you
a
snapshot
of
where
we
are
as
far
as
the
zoo
is
concerned,
and
where
we're
going,
we
also
going
to
give
you
an
update
on
some
of
the
work
that
we've
done
with
John
Bennett
and
Nicole
Travis
and
her
staff
in
order
to
be
able
to
update
a
lease
that
has
been
outdated
for
years
and
we
finally
I
think
have
made
progress
to
the
point
where
you'll
be
able
to
have
that
presented
to
you
and
hopefully
approve
going
forward
and
taking
care
of
some
items.
L
L
You
know,
that's
you
sit
down
in
meetings
and
you
spend
five
hours
coming
up
with
every
word
and
every
common
and
so
forth,
and
a
vision,
I
kind
of
believe
that
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
show
you
what
this
means,
rather
than
tell
you
what
it
means.
So
with
that,
if
you
can
be
patient
with
us
for
about
a
minute
and
a
half
we'd
have
a
video
to
show
you.
L
O
Do
we
have
sound
young
get
to
where
they're
going
and
protect
one
another
in
the
human
world
together
is
how
we
bind
one
generation
to
the
next?
It's
how
we
learn,
how
we
play
and
how
we
create
the
memories
that
make
us
a
family
together
is
at
the
heart
of
everything
we
do
at
Zoo
Tampa.
We
bring
animals
from
all
around
the
world
together,
so
we
can
protect
them
care
for
them,
ensuring
their
survival
for
years
to
come,
but
we
also
bring
people
together.
O
So
they
can
see
these
amazing
animals
up
close
and
learn
more
about
our
unique
relationship
with
them
here
and
environment's
carefully
created
to
meet
the
needs
of
each
species.
The
furry
lives
comfortably
alongside
the
feathered,
The
Savage
exists
peacefully.
Beside
the
gentle
and
some
of
the
largest
creatures
in
the
world
never
cease
to
amaze,
some
of
its
smallest
different
animals
from
all
over
the
world
together
different
people
from
all
walks
of
life
together
connecting
with
each
other
to
each
other
and
the
way
nature
always
intended
together.
L
P
Good
morning,
Braille
and
I'm,
the
CFO
of
Zoo,
Tampa
and
I
will
brief.
You
briefly
take
you
through
some
key
accomplishments
and
performance
Trends,
as
was
already
mentioned.
We
had
another
record
year
in
attendance
and
we
are
the
most
highly
attended
cultural
institution,
but
in
a
distance
in.
In
addition,
we
continue
to
provide
Manatee
care
leadership
during
an
unprecedented
year,
we're
very
honored
to
be
named.
Tampa's
2022
employer
of
the
Year
by
the
mayor's
Alliance
for
persons
with
disabilities.
P
And
I
hope
that
all
of
you
have
had
an
opportunity
to
see
us
on
secrets
of
the
Zoo
Tampa.
This
is
a
highly
rated
series
on
Nat,
Geo,
Wild
and
Disney,
plus
we've
premiered,
we've
premiered
in
2020,
and
we
are
airing
our
fourth
season
now
and
we
have
a
total
of
36
episodes.
P
We
do
reach
a
global
audience
and
that
not
only
increases
the
awareness
about
the
zoo's
Mission,
but
it
has
also
brought
a
diversified
audience
base
to
the
zoo,
which
is
also
a
boon
to
the
the
city
of
Tampa.
P
This
attendance
graph
is
basically
a
high
level
or
big
picture
snapshot
of
the
attendance
Trend
historically
and
our
projected
attendance
Trends
through
2026,
and
what
this
shows
is
that
back
in
fiscal
year,
15
we're
around
700
000
guests
and
through
fiscal
year
22
we
have
grown
to
almost
1.2
million
and
we
are
projected
to
grow
to
almost
1.3
million
by
fiscal
year
2026
and
that's
just
in
four
in
next
four
years.
Our
operating
Revenue
trend
shows
that,
back
in
fiscal
year
15
we
were
at
around
15
million.
P
Q
Good
morning,
Council
I
am
Scott
Rose
I'm,
the
Chief
Operating
Officer
for
Zoo
Tampa
and,
as
Joe
mentioned
earlier,
we've
been
working
with
City
staff
to
revise
the
the
zoo
lease
that
we
have
with
the
city
and,
first
of
all,
I'd
like
to
thank
the
staff
for
collaborating
with
us
to
get
us
we're
just
about
at
the
at
the
finish
line
here
and
we'll
have
that
to
you
very
soon
for
your
review
and
and
ask
for
the
approval
of
it.
Q
As
you
may
know,
the
original
East
dates
back
to
the
1980s
and
the
last
time
it
was
revised
was
in
2011..
So
it
was
time
for
a
revision.
For
that,
first
and
foremost,
we
deleted
outdated
provisions
and
updated
and
simplified
the
language.
That's
in
the
lease
to
more
concisely,
summarize
the
lease
history
and
eliminate
old
Provisions
that
no
longer
apply
like
language
on
construction
of
the
original
Zoo
facility.
Q
The
original
lease
included
an
animal
inventory
of
animals
initially
provided
to
the
zoo
through
the
years
that
ownership
is
transitioned
to
the
zoo,
and
now
all
of
the
animals
is
clearly
stated
in
in
the
lease
all
the
animals
are
under
the
ownership
of
the
zoo,
and
only
the
zoo
is
licensed
to
hold
and
care
for
these
animals.
It
also
updates
Insurance
Provisions.
The
city
has
improved
its
insurance
requirements
over
the
years,
and
this
update
will
incorporate
those
and
bring
those
standards
to
today's
standards
of
the
new
requirements.
Q
Also,
it
includes
adding
a
parcel
of
land
to
the
lease.
This
is
a
the
parcel
of
land
where
the
Band
Shell
is
currently
sitting
it's
about
a
Four
Acre
parcel
that
runs
from
Hamilton
Creek
South
to
the
corner
of
Sly
Avenue
and
North
Boulevard.
This
is
important
for
us
because
it
will
allow
us
to
then
do
some
much
needed
Renovations
and
improvements
to
our
parking
lot,
which
really
addresses
a
number
of
issues.
One
issue
IT
addresses
is
safety.
Q
We
have
a
number
of
safety
initiatives
that
are
part
of
this
parking
lot
Improvement,
including
the
removal
of
the
Band
Shell.
The
Bandshell
is
in
disrepair,
it's
a
non-operate
operational.
It
hasn't
been
used
in
about
eight
years
and
provides
us
with
a
real
safety
issue
that
we
have
there.
It's
the
site
of
where
a
lot
of
the
school
kids
have
their
lunches
and
families
visiting
the
zoo,
have
their
lunches
and
all
so.
Q
We
plan
to
remove
that
and
rebuild
that
whole
picnic
area
around
there,
so
real
nice
facility
for
school,
kids
and
and
families
visiting
the
zoo
other
safety
issues.
It'll
address
is
vehicle
traffic
through
the
parking
lot.
Pedestrian
traffic
safety,
railings,
improved
sidewalks,
improve
crosswalks
really
just
to
to
address
and
make
it
a
safer
and
much
more
enjoyable.
Experience
in
parking,
and
the
other
thing
it
allows
us
to
do
is
expand
parking
into
that
parcel.
There
is
a
small
parking
lot
there.
Q
Now
we
intend
to
expand
that
and
connect
it
to
the
main
lot
parking
is
a
real
challenge
for
us.
We
run
out
of
parking
on
many
days
of
the
year
as
Karen
indicated,
our
attendance
has
grown
significantly,
so
we
we
have
we're
looking
for
a
number
of
ways
to
improve
the
parking
capacity
for
our
for
our
guests.
J
Yeah
I,
thank
you
for
for
doing
that,
and
thanks
to
this
is
the
first
time
hearing
about
all
the
details
of
and
thanks
to
Administration
for
being
open
to
changing
this.
J
You
know
one
of
the
issues
is
that
the
sorry
to
mixed
metaphors,
but
the
the
animals
have
been
at
political
football
over
the
last
10
or
20
years,
and
especially
the
last
Administration
use
that
as
leverage
against
the
zoo
and
I'm
glad
that
this
Administration
is
open
to
fixing
that
it
was
an
absurd
requirement
that
somehow
the
city
would
own
animals
that
were
born
at
the
zoo
and
and
so
I.
Thank
you
to
everyone
for
working
on
this
I
look
forward
to
seeing
this
and
the
zoo
is
very
important.
J
We
need
to
Enlighten
leaders
like
you
all
to
think
ahead,
as
our
population
is
growing.
I
didn't
say
this
before
my
kids
grew
up
going
to
the
zoo
back
when
I
was
at
the
University
of
Tampa
in
1985
or
86
I
I
filmed
my
first
movie
for
a
class
project
at
the
zoo,
I
had
to
I
think
it
was
Passage
to
India
or
something
like
that,
and
so
I
had
to
had
to
shoot,
zoo
animals
and
piece
it
together.
J
C
Quick,
you
know
we
love
the
zoo
ever
since
I
was
a
kid
now.
I
take
my
stepdaughter
there,
my
oldest
step-daughter
she'll,
go
day
after
day
I
mean
there's
some
weeks
where,
if
we
can,
you
know
my
wife
will
take
her
Monday
through
Friday
and
and
she
loves
the
animal.
She
loves
what
you
know,
what
it
is
you
know
for
for
kids
to
enjoy,
but
also,
as
you
know,
Tampa
grows
and
you've
touched
upon,
or
it's
been
touched
upon
before
the
attendance.
C
C
So
the
interest
is
there
I
think
the
investment
is
worthy.
I
know
that
you
know:
we've
talked
about
expansion
and
I've,
seen
videos
on
the
projects
and
whatnot,
but
it's
a
it's
a
very
significant
Community
Asset
and
expanding
upon
that
will
only
benefit
this
community,
so
I'm
I'm
happy
to
support
you
know
the
zoo
and
its
plans
moving
forward
and
whatever
we
can
do.
Thank
you.
We.
N
You
benefit
any
business.
That's
satisfied
with
a
constant
same
attendance
is
in
essence
dying
because
somebody's
going
to
take
the
other
share.
So
what
you've
done
is
amazing,
all
of
you
and
besides
that,
if
anyone
listening
is
having
a
bad
day-
and
you
feel
like
you,
don't
feel
so
good
if
you
could
find
a
parking
spot
go
park,
we're.
N
Well,
I'm
I'm
trying
to
get
to
where
I'm
going.
If
you
feel
that
way,
find
a
parking
spot
Park
and
don't
even
go
in
just
stand
in
the
exit
door
and
when
you
see
all
the
kids
smiling
and
how
they
feel
your
day
becomes
a
better
day.
N
Because
you
see
all
this
glory
and
all
this
feeling
of
what
they've
seen
that
they've
heard
about,
maybe
seen
it
on
television
or
something,
but
when
they
get
there
and
they
actually
see
the
animals
they're
in
a
different
world
and
when
they
come
out,
you'll
be
in
a
different
world,
because
the
expression
of
being
not
so
well
becomes
a
very
positive.
When
you
see
that.
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here.
Thank.
Q
You
and
we
have
some
exciting
expansion
plans,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
back
over
to
Joe.
To
let
him
tell
you
all
about.
Excuse
me
I'm,
sorry,.
B
R
I'm
sorry
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
the
work.
That's
one
thing
I
haven't
heard
mentioned
is
the
the
work
with
rescue
and
especially
manatees
right
now.
This
in
the
last
couple
of
years
has
been
a
really
struggle
with
with
keeping
manatees
alive.
When
I
went
to
visit
the
zoo,
you
all
had
just
released
two
manatees
who
could
fend
for
themselves
and
they
have
brought
another
one
in
and
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
you're
going
to
be
doing
the
expansion
for
Rescue
and
Rehabilitation
as
well.
Yes,.
B
And
I
have
seen
some
amazing
shows
at
that
band
show
over
the
years
everything
from
a
punk
band,
Zenith
Nader
to
everybody's
childhood
Melanie,
who
did
the
brand
new
roller
skates?
Yes,
but
maybe
it's
time
for
change.
He
said
it.
Hadn't
been
used
in
eight
years
and
I
haven't
seen
anything
there
right
in
eight
years.
Maybe
that's
time
for
a
change,
good,
I'm,
sorry,
Chief
Bennett
did
you
have
something
you
wanted
to
add.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
L
So
the
good
news
is
that
we
set
a
goal
for
ourselves.
We
worked
hard
at
it.
We
put
together
a
business
plan,
a
strategic
plan.
We
put
together
a
master
plan.
We've
achieved
our
our
vision,
if
you
will,
for
the
first
few
years
that
the
current
administration
at
the
zoo
has
been
there,
but
we
do
have
a
bigger
vision,
and
some
of
you
have
seen
this
and
some
of
this
when
we
talk
about
a
bigger
Vision,
it's
not
just
simply
about
the
zoo
itself.
L
It
is
about
Manatee
rescue,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
we're
adding
two
more
pools
to
increase
our
capacity
for
more
Manatee
patients,
we're
adding
more
Outreach
Vehicles.
So
we
can
go
in
the
field
and
take
care
of
these
manatees,
and
it
says
not
this
manatees,
it's
Florida
Panthers,
any
native
Florida
Wildlife
that
we
can
rescue
our
brand
Essence.
We
call
it
Unforgettable
natural
connection.
L
You
saw
some
of
those
Unforgettable
natural
connections
just
with
these
animals
and
what
Ronnie
and
her
team
do
every
single
day.
But
an
unforgettable
natural
connection
is
the
things
that
happen
between
our
Animal
Care
staff
and
those
manatees
as
they
care
for
them
and
try
to
rehab
them.
An
animal
connection
is
a
little
girl,
feeding
a
giraffe
for
the
first
time
and
making
a
lifelong
memory
that
they'll
never
forget.
Another
Unforgettable
natural
connection
is
mom,
watching
her
little
girl
doing
that,
and
that's
a
memory
that
they
won't
forget.
L
So
we
know
perfectly
well
that
our
goal
here
is
that
we
need
to
continue
to
provide
those
Unforgettable
natural
connections
and
we
need
to
take
care
of
Florida
Wildlife
as
best
we
can
and
to
try
to
inspire
others
to
take
action
so
going
forward.
We
have
we,
we
want
to
serve
the
needs
of
the
Tampa.
Community
I
said
this
line
about
five
six
years
ago
at
one
of
our
social
functions.
Every
great
city
deserves
a
great
to
do.
L
S
Thank
you,
Zoo
Tampa,
an
iconic
Zoological
Park,
with
a
legacy
of
higher
standards
in
entertainment,
education
conservation
and,
most
importantly,
in
making
vital
connections
between
guests
and
the
natural
world.
Now,
as
our
resilient
Tampa,
Bay
Area
transforms,
so
does
Zoo
Tampa,
it's
a
Visionary
plan
that
began
with
the
transformation
of
the
Florida
realm,
the
opening
of
Roaring
Springs
and
now
a
totally
reimagined
Florida
Wilds.
Nowhere
is
the
zoo's
conservation
Mission
more
deeply
expressed
than
here
a
sanctuary
for
Florida
Wildlife,
including
Gators
black
bears
and
the
ruler
of
the
realm.
S
S
It's
an
unforgettable
journey
of
Discovery
with
the
goal
of
inspiring
guests
to
help
preserve
Florida's,
oceans,
Coastal
environments
and
sea
life
for
future
Generations
from
here,
the
transformation
continues
into
South
America,
it's
a
new
realm
with
an
expansion
that
would
bring
the
zoo
to
the
Hillsborough
River,
delivering
an
entirely
new
way
of
connecting
with
Wildlife.
It
begins
with
cultural
routes,
tying
Tampa
to
South
America
and
the
Caribbean
a
century-long
Heritage
that
comes
to
life
as
guests
are
transported
through
the
sites,
Aromas,
taste
and
feel
of
the
continent.
S
Visitors
will
take
in
memorable
encounters
with
sea
lions,
giant
river,
otters,
Jaguars
and
a
wide
range
of
other
incredible
South
American
species
culminating
with
a
waterfront
dining
experience,
partnering
with
local
Brands,
featuring
authentic
Cuisine
and
even
a
margarita
or
a
Mojito.
The
only
thing
that
could
top
the
experience
is
a
rival
from
the
river,
it's
a
new
level
of
enjoyment,
but
one
that
never
loses
sight
of
the
conservation
Mission
and
our
critical
role
in
inspiring
action
that
help
protect
wildlife
and
wild
places.
S
It's
that
commitment
to
conservation
that
takes
us
further
into
the
future
to
the
expanded
Africa
Realm,
a
boldly
reimagined
home
for
some
of
the
world's
most
majestic
species.
Here,
guests
encounter
giraffes
elephants,
zebras
rhinos
now,
all
together
in
an
expanded,
multi-species
habitat
that
rotates
daily.
So
it's
a
new
experience
with
every
visit
made
even
more
memorable
with
a
cabana
rental
on
the
edge
of
the
Savannah,
a
home
base
for
the
day
and
a
sensation
come
Nightfall
as
campers
sleep
within
a
lion's
roar.
S
The
Africa
realm
ensures
that
endangered
and
vulnerable
species
Thrive
and
are
appreciated
at
every
level
at
the
all-new
gorilla
habitat.
It's
a
three-tier
Journey,
starting
with
Red
River
hogs
at
ground
level,
then
climbing
higher
to
side-by-side,
encounters
with
gorillas
and
finally
eye
level
moments
with
a
variety
of
primates
high
up
in
the
Treetops.
S
S
One
never
knows
when
or
where
an
orangutan
or
tiger
might
show
up
delivering
amazing
nose
to
nose
encounters
it's
a
wonderfully
reimagined
home
for
current
favorites,
with
improved
environments
befitting
a
zoo
that
remains
true
to
its
high
standards.
Confident
going
forward
as
the
Tampa
Bay
Area
continues,
its
remarkable
Journey
Zoo
Tampa
forges
a
Visionary
path.
Beyond
the
Horizon
join
us
at
Zoo
Tampa.
The
future
is
now.
L
So
before
I
take
any
questions,
let
me
make
a
couple
of
things
clear
number
one.
This
is
not
in
the
lease
the
leasing
incorporates
what
Scott
talked
about
earlier.
This
is
for
ongoing
discussion.
It's
a
little
bit
more
complicated
issue.
Number
two:
it's
a
20-year
plan,
that'll
cost
about
125
million,
we're
not
asking
any
money
from
the
city
we're
planning
on
funding
it
through
other
sources
in
in
finding
ways
to
do
that
over
that
20-year
period.
L
The
important
part
here
is
that
we
also
want
to
respect
the
Integrity
of
Lowry
Park
and
so
we're
not
looking
to
infringe
upon
the
public
access
any
public
access
at
Lowry
Park.
So
those
are
the
disclaimers
we
have.
Hopefully
you
can
kind
of
get
an
idea
of
what
we'd
like
to
go
in
the
future.
L
We'd
like
to
do
this,
with
your
involvement
we'd
like
to
do
this
with
your
feedback
we'd
like
to
do
this
with
Community
meetings
that
we
have
with
our
neighbors,
so
we
can
get
their
feedback,
it's
a
work
in
progress,
but
we're
very
excited
and
we're
very
optimistic
that
we
can
get
this.
This
done
any
questions.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
First.
This
is
spectacular,
wonderful
idea
and
a
wonderful
way
to
activate
the
riverfront.
As
you
see,
that
property
is
where
we
have
our
vehicles,
where
we
have
storage
I
go
to
that
area
and
it
it's
not
very
well
kept
you
all
I
mean
you
know
that,
because
you
work
right
there,
you
answered
one
of
my
questions:
how
much
money
do
you
want
in
public
dollars,
but
you're
saying
that
you're
funding
it
through
a
variety
of
sources
that
are
not
public
funds
from
us
correct.
C
Anything
I
think
this
is
a
great
use
and
and
way
to
activate
the
riverfront
over
there.
The
renderings
were
were
there
the
access
points.
My
question
is
this:
Lori
Park,
the
public
access
spot
that
the
city
of
Tampa
has
I've,
had
requests
and
complaints
regarding
the
docs
and
everything.
C
L
C
L
A
small
area
and
Mark
I'm
going
to
have
you
take
them
through
the
the
the
overhead
image
here,
but
there's
a
small
area
that
is
currently
parking.
Okay.
That
would
remain
parking
so
that,
if
we
have
any
events
on
that
side
of
the
park,
we're
not
asking
people
to
park
on
one
side
and
travel
through
the
zoo
to
get
to
the
other
side,
because
this
would
be
connected
over
North
Boulevard
with
a
treetop
Boardwalk.
Okay,
so
there'd
be
small
parking
for
events.
L
We
would
have
river
access,
so
we
can
work
with
a
water
taxi
folks,
Troy's
here
today,
and
we've
been
working
with
them
to
try
to
create
access
that
would
be
facilitated
by
this
design.
But
let
us
show
you
what
we
have
in
mind:
mark.
T
Yeah
councilman,
what
you're
talking
about
I
think
is
the
area
in
the
the
pink
sort
of
tier
to
the
right,
yep.
A
T
C
C
So
you
will
be
protecting
the
existing
parking
for
Public
Access.
You
would
be
taking
over
the
maintenance
or
Rehabilitation
of
the
docks
and
whatnot
I
was
just
mentioned.
C
From
the
city,
and
basically
are
you
asking
is
for
the
land
which
is
being
used
for
storage
of
vehicles
and
maintenance
and
all
that
stuff,
so
it's
in
in
as
the
deal
would
be
the
land
swap
you
would
take
over.
You
would
fund
everything
you
would
take
over
the
the
the
existing
Lorry
Park
dock
area
and
fix
that
which
that's
a
million
dollars
that
I
don't
have
to
chase
in
the
budget,
and
that's
really
it
I
mean
I.
C
I
know
you
need
the
public
input
and
you're
going
to
be
reaching
out
to
folks,
but
I
think
this
is
a
great
and
worthy
Community
benefit
that
takes
the
burden
off
us.
In
many
ways
it
maintains
the
public
access
points
and
in
the
park
and
improves
upon
that
and
expands
upon
that,
and
it's
not
costing
the
taxpayers,
meaning
the
city
of
Tampa
you're,
not
asking
for
money
for
our
budget
to
fund
this.
So
my
questions
are
answered.
U
See
our
economic
director
I
was
shaking
her
head,
so
maybe
she
has
some
comments
on
that
because
she's
shaking
her
head,
like
so
I,
want
to
make
sure
we're
clear
on
the
deal
or
what
could
be.
V
Yeah
I
was
just
going
to
say
good
morning:
Nicole
Travis,
administrator
of
development
and
Economic
Opportunity.
The
presentation
for
you
today
was
to
give
you
an
update
on
where
the
zoo
is
and
kicking
off
their
Renovations
and
expansions.
This
everything
east
of
Boulevard
is
not
a
done
deal.
This
is
things
that
we
have
to
work
out
to
say
that
we're
that
it's
only
a
million
dollars,
we
would
have
to
relocate
City
facilities.
We
don't
have
land
or
the
resources
to
do
that.
Now.
V
That's
something
that
we're
working
out
and
talking
to
the
zoo
about
so
there's
several
different
iterations
and
processes,
as
Joe
mentioned
earlier,
that
we
need
to
go
through
so
the
land
is,
and
it
may
not
have
a
dollar
a
month,
but
there
is
a
monetary
figure
associated
with
that,
but
we're
working
on
the
lease
amendment
that
should
be
coming
to
you
very
soon,
and
this
kicks
off
for
the
zoo,
what
they're
hoping
to
Endeavor
in
the
next
several
years
as
they
expand
and
move
forward.
V
So
there
are
several
more
steps
to
come
before
that
be
able
to
get
there
and
that
will
come
before
you
at
another
time
and.
N
Thank
you
very
much.
I
I
always
been
told
to
speak
your
mind,
so
I'm
thinking
about
what
my
mind's
going
to
say
to
that.
N
N
N
We
had
a
convention
Center,
which
was
very
nice,
it's
as
beautiful
as
it
was,
and
it's
almost
old
as
I
am
so
when
you
look
at
those
things,
we're
not
convention
Hotel,
we
were
losing
Millions
every
year.
So
now
those
things
are
built
out.
The
convention
centers
making
itself
profitable.
It
was
last
time,
I
looked,
and
why?
Because
we
help
make
it
that
way
by
bringing
in
one
hotel
that
brought
in
competition
from
another
one
and
from
another
one
and
from
another.
N
N
The
crew
is
no
longer
working
because
what
we
changed
from
being
what
we
were
just
something
that
the
kids
of
the
parents
and
grandparents
that
live
here
were
living
somewhere
else
and
now
because
of
the
University
of
South
Florida
University
of
Tampa
University
of
Tampa
has
gone
from
1200
students
a
few
years
back
to
almost
12
000,
it's
bigger
now
than
Wake
Forest
and
Princeton
in
enrollment.
So
now
what
are
we
thinking
about?
N
We
have
an
opportunity,
Fair
opportunity
to
have
Fair
negotiations
on
both
sides,
not
on
one
side
or
the
other
side,
but
to
come
to
some
agreement,
and
this
is
not
an
agreement
that
we're
working
on
today.
This
is
just
a
talk
of
what
the
zoo
has
accomplished
on
their
own
there's
no
CRA
in
the
zoo,
there's,
no
five
million
dollars
or
50
million
dollars
for
20
billion
dollars
going
to
the
zoo.
N
T
B
My
my
girlfriend's
eight-year-old
grandson,
who
is
a
gamer
he's,
got
the
the
VR
goggles
and.
C
B
L
And
I
just
want
to
add
one
thing:
if
I
haven't
made
it
clear
before
I
want
to
make
a
very
clear
right
now
the
lease
takes
care
of
the
immediate
needs.
You
saw
a
snapshot
of
where
we
are
presently
financially
so
we're
in
good
shape.
The
video
is
something
that's
a
work
in
progress.
As
Nicole
pointed
out,
we
felt
that
it
was
a
better
idea
to
take
care
of
the
immediate
needs.
L
It's
on
the
lease
and
then
come
back
to
this
going
forward,
because
there's
so
many
things
to
to
work
out,
there's
so
many
obstacles
to
get
through,
but
I'm
a
persistent
kind
of
guy
and
I'm,
pretty
sure
we
can
make
it
happen
and
we
may
find
a
hurdle
or
two
but
we'll
get
through
it
and
again.
I
said
it
earlier,
but
I'll
say
it
again.
I
want
to
thank
John
Bennett
I
want
to
thank
Nicole
I
want
to
thank
the
team
because
they
they
got
helped
get
us
here
going
forward.
I
Morning,
Council
John,
Bennett,
Chief
of
Staff,
just
briefly
I
think
it
was
covered
when
Nicole
Travis
came
up,
but
we
wanted
to
mention
that
we
appreciate
Council
recognizing
the
creative
collaboration.
I've
had
a
special
working
relationship
with
the
zoo
for
dozens
of
years,
mostly
in
protective
measures
in
support
of
the
environment
and
I.
Just
want
to
thank
the
legal
team,
Nicole
Travis
Dennis
Rogero
for
all
the
hard
work
they're
doing
to
get
us
across
these
phased
goal
lines.
I
So
it's
a
team,
sport
and
I
appreciate
Council,
recognizing
the
fact
that
we're
all
working
together
to
get
it
done.
Thank
you.
B
B
Our
new
director,
we
all
know
him
from
prior
accommodations
and
I,
thought
that
maybe
you
might
want
to
introduce
him.
W
Come
on
out
with
me
so
good
morning,
Council,
my
name
is
Troy
manthey
I'm,
owner
of
yacht,
Starship,
dining
cruises,
and
pirate
water
taxi
and
bay
rocket
and
a
couple
other
floating
attractions
downtown.
This
is
Dustin
Portillo.
Is
our
new
director
of
PR
started
this
week
so
a
great
first
week
we
are
here
to
just
express
our
support
for
Zoo
Tampa.
When
you
look
at
the
the
investment
they've
made.
I
agree
with
everything
you
said:
it's
a
world-class
invest
world-class
Zoo.
W
It
is
the
reason
we
have
record
visitation
here
in
Tampa.
It
is
the
reason
hotels
are
doing
as
well
as
they
are
we're.
Having
record
bad
tax.
We
are
committed
to
supporting
the
transportation
Corridor
to
the
zoo.
We
operated
a
beta
test,
the
zoo
Express
prior
to
covet
running
up
to
the
zoo.
We
learned
a
lot
in
that
beta
test.
We
spent
the
last
year
designing
a
specific
Water
Taxi
that
can
make
the
transit
from
downtown
to
the
zoo.
W
We
designed
a
catamaran
with
only
eight
feet
of
vertical
clearance,
which
is
a
really
a
challenging
task
to
get
under
Hillsborough
and
Columbus
Bridges,
without
them
opening
for
us
to
transit,
to
the
zoo,
capable
of
getting
up
to
higher
speeds,
to
make
the
transit
more
time-able
low
weight,
jet
driven
environmentally
friendly,
and
that
vessel
is
under
construction
here
in
Tampa
by
Tampa
workers
at
our
maintenance
facility.
So
we're
committed
to
invest
well
over
a
million
dollars
in
water
taxi
construction.
This
is
the
first
of
two
we're
building.
W
We
expect
to
launch
it
by
the
end
of
the
year
and
we
expect
to
stand
up
the
zoo
express
route
at
the
end
of
the
year
early
next
year
at
the
latest,
which
will
start
that
connectivity
again
and
you're
absolutely
right
connecting
the
aquarium
and
the
zoo
together
is
essential.
It
creates
a
great
all-day
experience.
What
we
learn
in
the
beta
test.
We
had
full
taxis
going
to
the
zoo.
We
had
empty
taxis
coming
back
well
now
we
can
fill
them
in
both
ways
with
visiting
both
cultural
attractions.
W
N
To
help
people
and
make
Tampa
like
it
is
you're
right,
the
hotel
occupancy
is
one
of
the
highest
in
the
country.
It's
88
or
89
occupancy,
one
of
the
highs
in
the
country
and
and
thanks
because
you
have
something
to
go
to.
You
have
moving
around
the
the
river
and
and
the
entrance
to
the
to
the
Bay.
However,
when
I've
had
a
lot
of
people
call
me
and
more
than
one
I
can
have
them.
N
Call
you
if
you
like
north
of
the
Columbus
Drive
Bridges
individuals,
that
own
property
on
the
riverfront
and
they're
very
much
concerned,
because
the
wake
doesn't
go
for
enough.
They
say-
and
this
is
what
they're
saying
so,
wherever
we're
going
to
do
with
the
zoo,
we've
got
to
make
sure
that
it's
time
wise
feasible
that
we
don't
have
any,
not
your
boats,
but
other
boats
that
are
going
high
speed
and
we
have
to
have
more
Village
and
more
Patrol.
N
J
Custom
Crossing
yeah
congrats,
does
it
and
Troy
thanks
for
your
entrepreneurship
on
this?
What
what
you've
done
with
the
pirate
taxi
and
other
things?
You
know
it's
changed
the
way
people
experience
the
City
by
seeing
experience
it
from
the
Riverwalk
and
I
think
when
you
started
the
pirate
attacks,
they
had
a
lot
of
people,
including
me,
thought
it
wouldn't
succeed,
and
now
it's
wildly
successful.
So
thank
you
for
doing
that,
and
also
thank
you
for
your
leadership
with
the
maritime
community
over
the
years.
You
and
your
family
have
been
very
involved.
R
I
also
just
want
to
say
thank
you,
I
love
that
you
all
are
a
viable
and
growing
alternate
Transit,
so
I
just
really
want
to
say
thank
you
for
that,
and
I
do
see
people
on
it
all
the
time
I
write
it
myself
and
I
really
enjoy
it
and
I
think
it's
a
great
part
of
the
city.
So
thank
you
for
continuing
to
want
to
grow
and
to
try
to
allow
people
to
just
park
once
and
be
able
to
to
move
about
our
city
in
different
ways.
Thank
you.
Yes,.
B
Thank
you
for
your,
your
new
form,
the
transportation,
but
it's
not
really
new.
It's
only
been
around
for
what
10
15
years.
B
E
B
X
Ll
members
of
the
board,
my
name
is
Al
Lucas
I
came
I,
came
to
Tampa
in
1958
and
went
to
with
my
mom
and
went
to
Tinker
Elementary,
School,
gory
and
Wilson,
and
plant
and
graduated
from
the
University
of
South
Florida
Mom
very
married
Bill
emsary
a
remarried
Bill
absuri,
and
he
was
once
the
president
of
the
junior
Chamber
of
Commerce
here
in
Tampa,
and
it
was
also
the
chemist
in
World
War
II
in
Tampa.
X
He
has
he's
writing
a
book
about
that
about
that
and
once
is
as
very
interested
in
pursuing
with
you
as
you
as
we
understand
that
you
have
that
as
a
part
of
your
agenda,
the
restoration
of
the
Ray
Charles
building,
so
without
any
further
Ado
I'll
introduce
myself
I'll
introduce
David
Cordell.
Thank
you.
Y
So
what
I'm,
specifically
talking
about
the
Jackson
house
off
of
Nebraska
and
Zach,
as
the
council
may
be
aware
of
it,
was
at
one
time
for
black
musicians
to
go
there
and
live.
That
house
has
been
in
a
state
of
disappear
disrepair
for
some
time
now,
I
believe
20
to
25
years
well.
Y
I
proposed
before
this
council
is
in
a
minimum
to
consider
a
plaque
in
honor
of
Ray
Charles,
who
did
indeed
go
there,
because
in
this
town
there
is
a
mural,
fine
mural
that
honors
Ray
Charles
and
Ray
Charles
Boulevard,
which
he
didn't
live
there
by
the
way.
But
he
did
live
in
the
Jackson
house
with
the
other
wonderful
musicians
of
that
time.
Y
So
I
would
ask
this
counsel
at
a
minimum,
consider
a
plaque
in
honor
of
Ray
Charles
and
maybe
a
little
bit
more,
maybe
statues
onto
a
humble
statue
showing
him
playing
the
piano
right
in
front
of
the
Jackson
house,
also
as
the
CEO
of
low-cost
websites
LLC,
which
is
in
the
same
zip
code
of
the
Jackson
house.
Y
I,
know
people
worldwide
and
Nationwide
interested
in
this
particular
project.
I
understand
the
fine
University
is
a
such
a
plan
for
the
Jackson
house
and
once
again
it's
a
state
of
disappear.
I
do
not
miss
wish
to
countermand
that,
but
there's
a
company
in
California
called
and
I
have
the
contact
information
here.
If
you
all
wish
to
see
it,
it's
mbsac.
Y
M-B-S-A-M-B-S-A-P-L-L-C
very
well
established
company
in
California
and
they
have
connections
in
India
and
Singapore
and
Saudi
Arabia,
there's
a
particular
architect
as
I
conclude,
there's
a
particular
architect
that
has
some
information
that
he'd
like
from
Saudi
Arabia,
to
facilitate
with
that
project.
So
I
asked
the
members
to
at
a
minimum,
consider
that
plaque
and
also
a
statue
of
some
some
time
wherever
Ray
Charles
may
have
dwelled
and
to
consider
getting
some
information.
So
this
architect
might
be
able
to
contribute
thanks.
So
much
councilman.
B
C
So
when
Ray
Charles
came
to
Tampa
and
lived
here
for
a
time,
he
stayed
in
a
house
on
short
Emery
Street.
Not
he
did
stay
at
the
Jackson
house,
but
the
house
that
he
spent
more
of
the
time
in
and
I
believe
where
some
songs
were
written
has
been
demolished,
but
the
property
is
there.
It's
I
believe
right.
Next
to
the
to
the
existing
church,
I
can
I
can
take
you
there
and
show
you
who
I
would
contact
and
I
can
connect.
C
Y
E
Manchester
means
freedom
in
Swahili.
We
say
we
as
African.
People
should
always
be
thinking
about
our
freedom
and
it's
time
for
the
stupidness
to
stop.
We
don't
want
to
talk
about
no
Jackson
house.
We
don't
want
to
talk
about
no
Ray
Charles.
We
don't
want
to
talk
about
no
black
people
singing
and
dancing
and
eating
watermelon.
We
don't
want
to
talk
about
no
black
people
playing
basketball
or
who
got
hurt
on
the
football
field
or
the
Buccaneers
or
Tom
Brady
or
tax
incentives
for
them.
Black
people
need
to
talk
about
reparations.
E
E
We
don't
want
no
more
of
that
stupidness,
because
we
don't
have
any
representatives
to
really
represent
our
true
interests,
ignorant
Negroes,
talking
about
parks
and
recreation,
centers
and
speed,
bumps
and
roundabouts,
and
say
no
to
drugs
and
the
white
folks,
bringing
all
the
drugs
in
the
community
say
no
to
crime
and
they
commit
more
crime
than
anybody
else.
Personal
crime,
social
crime,
political
crime,
economic
crime,
more
crime
than
anybody
else.
E
E
Talking
about
reparations,
we're
26
percent
of
this
population,
I,
don't
know
what
the
animal
is
over
at
Zoo
Tampa
is,
but
where
26
percent
of
this
population
and
y'all
can't
talk
about
reparations,
not
one
single
day,
not
one
single
second
y'all
are
insult
African
people
y'all
are
an
insult
to
African
people
and
the
Ambitions
of
African
people
and
y'all
still
think
we're
three-fifths
of
a
human
being,
and
we
ain't
never
been
that,
but
y'all
try
to
categorize
us
as
that
and
keep
talking
about.
Y'all
can
have
ceremonies
and
Martin
Luther,
King
parades
and
Juneteenth.
E
Oh
nobody
care
about
that
ignorant
stuff.
It's
ignorant
is
straight
ignorance
and
y'all,
trying
to
play
Us
close
like
we
ignorant,
but
black
people
aren't
ignorant
black
people.
Aren't
foolish.
We've
been
enslaved
for
623
years
under
Euro
and
American
domination
under
white
Western
Civilization
under
white
western
expansion
on
the
white
Western
manifest
destiny.
E
It's
time
for
that
to
stop,
you
don't
have
to
start
taking
black
people
more
serious.
We
ain't
trying
to
sing
and
dance
with
white
people.
No
more.
We
ain't
trying
to
do
none
of
that.
No
more!
We
ain't
trying
to
collect
no
plaques
or
no
Awards
and
know
who
did
this
and
who
got
a
marching
band,
a
sorority
of
fraternity,
F.
All
that
we
want
reparations,
that's
what
we
want
623
trillion
dollars
is
what
we're
owed
on
on
this
continent
right
here
of
North
America!
That's
what
we
want.
Z
Well,
good
morning
my
name
is
Sid.
Flannery
I
spoke
to
you
on
December
1st,
regarding
proposed
changes
to
the
Florida
statute
that
resulted
from
Senate
Bill
64
that
will
affect
how
the
city,
reuses
or
discharges
reclaimed
water
from
the
Howard
F
current
Advanced
wastewater
treatment
plant.
These
proposed
changes
to
the
statute
were
prepared
by
the
citizen
stakeholders
group,
for
that,
for
the
last
two
years
has
followed
the
city's
plans
to
comply
with
Senate
Bill
64
and
its
options
for
reclaimed
water
use.
Z
At
your
request
on
December
1st
I,
send
you
a
draft
of
the
stakeholders
position
paper
that
contained
our
recommendations
and
then
on
January
12th
I
sent
you
the
mayor
and
City
staff.
Our
final
document
that
says
very
similar
proposed
language
I'm
here
today,
because
you
also
received
a
memo
dated
January
12th
from
two
staff
members
from
the
city's
office
of
government
Affairs
and
strategic
initiatives.
Z
I
wish
these
staff
members
well
and
don't
think
the
misunderstandings
in
their
memo
were
intentional,
but
that
memo
seriously
mischaracterized
the
recommendations
put
forth
by
the
stakeholders
group,
as
shown
in
item
13,
and
the
staff
reports
for
today's
meeting
and
reprinted
in
the
staff
memo
on
December
1st,
the
council
passed
a
motion
for
City
staff
to
examine
the
legal
and
lobbying
resources
that
can
be
used
to
support
a
change
in
Senate,
Bill,
64
and
or
enable
the
city
to
get
an
exception
from
the
Florida
dep
that
recognizes
the
beneficial
effects
of
discharges
of
water
to
Tampa,
Bay
I
do
agree
with
the
staff
memo
that
a
full
exemption
from
Senate
Bill
64
would
be
an
almost
impossible
sell
with
the
legislature,
but
that
is
not
what
the
stakeholders
have
proposed.
Z
Z
Instead,
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
the
city
could
evaluate
reclaimed
water
projects
that
considered
a
large
seasonal
variations
of
flow
in
the
Hillsborough
River.
The
need
for
reclaimed
water
and
the
cost
effectiveness
of
the
projects
our
recommended
language
would
also
allow
the
city
to
better
respond
to
changes
in
site-specific
factors
such
as
concentrations
of
chemical
constituents,
of
concern
and
in
an
open
scientific
Forum,
evaluate
the
quantity
of
surface
to
charge
that
can
be
removed
from
Tampa
Bay
without
causing
adverse
environmental
impacts.
Could
I
have
just
another
one
more
time.
Z
For
an
accurate
portrayal
of
the
stakeholders,
recommendations
I
encourage
you
to
review
the
email
I
sent
to
you
on
January
12th
and
the
attached
position
paper
that
was
signed
by
nine
members
of
the
city
stakeholders
group.
As
that
core
pundit
suggests.
We
think
the
city
Administration
should
endorse
and
support
the
straightforward
additions
to
the
Florida
Statutes
that
we
are
proposing,
which
would
give
the
city
much
needed
operational
flexibility
to
pursue
reclaimed
water
projects
that
are
truly
needed,
cost-effective
protective
of
the
regions,
water
resources
and
natural
environments
and
in
the
best
public
interest.
Z
Yes,
I'm
retired
now,
I'm
70
years
old
I've
worked
in
water
resources
for
38
years.
I
worked
as
a
chief
environmental
scientist
with
the
southwest
Florida
water
management
for
nearly
30
years,
and
I
worked
on
minimum
flows
and
levels
and
I
just
the
quantity
you
can
take
of
water
for
water
supply
without
damaging
the
environment.
I've
worked
extensively
on
minimum
flows
for
the
Hillsborough
River
and
the
Alafia
River
yeah.
AA
I'm,
the
vice
chair
of
the
Tampa
Bay
Sierra
Club,
and
a
member
of
the
stakeholders
group
on
the
project
formerly
known
as
pure,
which
the
city
now
claims
is
no
longer
a
thing.
But
of
course,
we
all
know
is
still
very
much
a
thing
in
particular
I'm
here
to
express
the
shareholders
or
stakeholders
disappointment
in
the
city's
responses
to
the
17
questions
that
the
Sierra
Club
submitted
to
the
mayor
and
her
staff.
Last
February
after
Council
provided
more
than
a
million
dollars
for
public
Outreach
and
to
study
additional
Alternatives.
AA
We
gave
those
17
questions
to
the
mayor
and
her
staff
and
said
this
is
the
minimum
information
that
you
need
to
tell
the
public
about
the
pure
project.
In
fact,
the
17
questions
are
titled,
Outreach
information
that
the
public
needs
from
the
city
of
Tampa
regarding
the
proposed
pure
project,
and
we
ask
that
all
of
that
information
be
put
on
the
city's
website.
So
why
are
we
disappointed?
AA
Well,
first
of
all,
rather
than
answering
each
of
the
questions
one
by
one
in
sequence,
the
staff
has
chosen
to
group
the
questions
and
bunches
and
respond
with
their
own
narrative
generalizations.
So
my
first
question
for
the
staff
is
this:
why
didn't
you
just
answer
the
questions?
The
way
they
were
asked
you've
had
a
year.
Secondly,
the
document
keeps
kept
saying
two
things
one.
We
need
more
money
in
order
to
answer
the
questions
and
two
there
isn't
a
pure
project
and
they
repeat
those
over
and
over
and
over
again.
AA
Well,
everyone
knows
that
they
want
to
use
combinations.
Two
and
three,
which
everyone
is
called
Pure
for
more
than
two
years,
which
means
stop
discharging
the
water
into
Tampa
Bay
put
the
treated
Wastewater
in
the
reservoir
to
Drought
proof
it
below
the
dam
for
minimum
flows
and
store
the
rest
of
it
in
the
aquifer.
AA
AA
And
while
there's
apparently
a
report
of
what
the
contaminants
are
that
are
contained
that
remain
in
the
treated
Wastewater
today,
they
didn't
send
that
report
to
the
stakeholders
or
to
city
council,
and
instead,
it's
available
upon
request,
really
The
public's,
been
asking
for
this
information
for
almost
a
year,
and
now
we
have
to
make
a
special
request
for
what's
in
the
treated
waste
water.
Now,
why
not
put
all
of
that
on
the
city
council's
website
the
city's
website,
so
that
everyone
can
see
that
information?
Just
like
we
asked
in
the
17
questions
a
year
ago.
AA
We
certainly
hope
that
the
workshop
that's
going
to
be
held
on
February
23rd,
will
provide
real
answers
to
each
of
the
questions
posed
without
excuses
that
funding
has
been
stopped
and
while
we're
talking
about
money,
the
public
would
certainly
like
a
detailed
accounting
of
the
money.
That's
been
spent
to
date
on
this
project,
whatever
it's
called.
AB
Hello,
Noah
Myers
Tampa
Bay
community
action
committee.
It's
funny
that
the
zoo
came
in
here
because
I
just
want
to
talk
about
the
elephant
in
the
room.
Yesterday,
Jane
Caster
mayor,
Jane
caster
vetoed
a
ballot
measure
for
independent
Council
for
the
citizens,
Review
Board
of
Tampa,
a
flagrantly
anti-democratic
option,
or
action
and
I
mean
also
kind
of
disrespectfully.
All
you.
You
guys
spent
like
three
months
working
on
that
ballot
measure
and
she
just
is
like
out
of
nowhere.
She's
gonna
unsign
it
that's
just
I
mean
ridiculous.
AB
Is
this
respectful
to
you
folks,
disrespectful
of
the
city
of
Tampa,
is
respectful
to
the
people
of
Tampa.
It's
disrespectful
to
all
the
work
you
guys
put
in
all
the
work
the
activists
put
in
all
the
work
everybody
has
put
in
trying
to
put
pressure
on
this
campaign
and
I
mean
y'all
got
to
stand
up
for
yourselves.
AB
Y'all
gotta
stand
up
for
the
people
of
Tampa
and
you
got
to
stand
up
for
what's
right
because
I
know
every
single
one
of
you
know
what's
right
and
what's
wrong
and
what
what
mayor,
Jan
Castor
did
yesterday
was
wrong
and
giving
a
student's
review
board
power
of
independent
council
is
right,
so
just
do
what's
right
and
override
that
veto.
Thank
you.
H
Mr,
chairman
members
of
council,
a
question
came
up
with
regard
to
public
comment
on
the
reconsideration
of
councils,
the
ordinances
that
have
come
back
from
the
mayor
with
regard
to
that
a
clarification,
please,
is
it
council's
pleasure
to
allow
for
public
comment
after
each
of
the
individual
ordinances?
H
My
understanding
is
that
it's
not
set
for
a
public
hearing,
although
frankly,
there
may
be
people
here
who
want
to
speak
to
the
individual
ordinances
or
does
council
wish
to
have
allowed
people
also
to
speak
generally
if
they
wish
to
speak
now.
Instead
of
then,
how
does
council
wish
to
handle
it
specifically?
This
is
something
that
has
not
come
up
before
Council.
In
my
experience
before
for
reconsideration
again,
I
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
with
the
legal
department.
H
I
don't
know
if
they
want
to
opine,
but
I
understand
that
and
it's
my
opinion
that
best
practice
might
be
under
these
circumstances,
to
allow
each
individual
ordinance
to
allow
public
comment.
If
that's
council's
pleasure,
councilman.
R
I
absolutely
think
that's
a
great
suggestion,
because
there
are
some
people
here
that
may
want
to
speak
on
one,
and
some
people
may
want
to
speak
on.
Maybe
three,
but
not
all
five,
so
I
have
no
problem
with
that.
I
would
probably
the
only
thing
I
might
recommend.
Is
that
folks
try?
You
know
we
normally,
you
know,
try
not
to
you
know
be
too
repetitive
and
yeah
I
absolutely
have
no
problem
with
that.
I
think
that's
a
wise
way
to
do
it.
B
J
Just
one
other
thing
to
add
to
that
I
agree
with
Council
council
member
hertek,
but
if
there
are
people
that
came
here
with
the
idea
of
speaking
in
the
public
comment
at
the
beginning
and
they
need
to
leave
I,
don't
think
we
should
prohibit
them
from
speaking
now.
But
if
we
should,
we
should
have
yeah
one
but
others
who
would
like
to
speak
later.
Let
them
allow
and
do
it.
AC
Good
morning,
Council
James
Michael
Shaw
Jr
I,
live
in
West
Tampa
I
tend
to
show
up
behind
this
Podium
whenever
we're
talking
about
the
the
crb
and
and
I
I.
Think
the
members
of
council
that
have
supported
the
efforts
to
give
the
crb
its
own
independent
attorney,
but
really
what
I
want
to
talk
about
right
now
is
bigger
than
just
that.
We're
talking
about
the
separation
of
powers,
the
seven
of
you
represent
the
400
000
of
us.
You
are
the
legislative
body
of
this
city.
AC
I've
been
speaking
with
various
iterations
of
this,
this
Council
for
seven
years
about
the
the
amendments
to
the
ordinance
concerning
the
civilian
review
board,
so
I
think
seven
years
is
enough
vetting
for
that
that
we
can
finally
put
it
to
a
a
vote.
There
are
different
kinds
of
voter
suppression.
There
is
preventing
someone
from
registering
to
vote.
AC
There
is
preventing
a
registered
voter
from
casting
a
ballot,
and
the
kind
of
voter
suppression
that
we
saw
yesterday
was
the
content
of
the
ballot
to
make
sure
that
it
is
whitewashed
of
things
that
will
affect
the
outcome
of
the
of
the
voters
lives
the
things
that
affect
them
that,
even
though,
if
they
they
they're
able
to
cast
a
ballot,
the
things
that
matter
to
them
are
not
on
that
ballot.
That's
a
form
of
voter
suppression
as
well.
AC
I
see
some
aspiring
Mayors
in
front
of
me
right
now
and
I
want
you
to
know
that
you
only
get
one
this
morning,
you
only
get
one
opportunity
to
either
stand
up
to
voter
suppression
or
sign
off
on
it,
and
the
voters
are
going
to
be
paying
attention
to
how
you
vote
this
morning.
Let
the
people
vote
on
this
issue.
Let
the
people
vote
on
all
of
these
issues.
AC
I
read
that
editorial,
and
it
just
said
it's
a
strong
mayor
form
of
government
and
I'm
afraid
that
some
of
these
might
pass
and
I
don't
want
the
voters
to
have
their
way.
I
will
be
deciding
for
them.
I've
said
Ad
nauseam
behind
this
Podium.
That
strong
mayor
is
not
two
words
that
appear
in
the
charter
anywhere.
They
don't
appear
in
any
ordinance.
It
is.
There
is
pseudoscience,
there
is
also
pseudo
law,
that
is
pseudo
law.
There's
no
such
thing
strong
mayor
is
a
legal
term.
AC
That
means
the
executive
is
elected
by
the
people
instead
of
hired
by
city
council,
whose
mayor
it
is
whoever's
the
Tariff
city
council,
the
weak
mayor
form
of
government.
That's
all
it
means
it
does
not
mean
that
the
city
of
Tampa
is
governed
by
a
monarch
who
gets
to
decide
what
the
people
get
to
vote
on
and
what
the
people
don't
get
to
vote
on.
So
you
have
one
shot
this
morning
at
either
signing
off
on
voter
suppression
or
standing
up
to
it.
AD
The
community
action
committee
and
I
live
in
North,
Tampa
off
of
Nebraska
and
Bush
and
I'm
here
today
to
speak
about
the
mayor,
vetoing
the
charter
amendments
yesterday,
not
only
because,
as
you
all
know,
Tampa
Bay
community
action
committee
is
a
huge
supporter
of
independent
Council
and
letting
the
people
vote.
But.
AD
In
that
Charter
or
other
Charter
amendments
that
she
vetoed,
that
I
also
think
are
very
important,
like
I
think
there
should
be
term
limits
and
I
think
that
a
lot
of
those
things
should
be
up
to
the
voters
they
affect
us
and
I.
Think
it's
also
a
slap
in
the
face
for
the
people
that
come
here
very
often
to
speak
on
letting
the
people
vote
and
issues
that
we
care
about
and
that
affect
us.
I
know
in
the
past,
tvcac
has
been
called
a
French
group,
but
we
all
live
in
Tampa.
AD
It
all
affects
us,
and
you
know
we
organize
in
Tampa,
and
we
represent
people
in
Tampa,
and
people
in
Tampa
want
police
accountability
and
they
want
a
chance
to
vote.
They
want
to
be
allowed
to
choose
how
our
city
is
run
and
the
mayor
is
not
allowing
that,
but
I
think
that
you
guys
can,
and
we
really
hope
that
you
will
today.
So
thank
you.
AE
Hello,
my
name
is
David
Jones
I
live
up
in
North,
Tampa,
District
Seven,
also
speaking
and
I'm,
asking
that
you
guys
override
the
mayor's
vetoes
on
those
Charter
amendments.
AE
AE
You
know
it's
disrespectful
to
us
in
the
community,
but
it's
also
disrespectful
y'all.
It's
like
disrespectful
to
us
that
you
know.
Everyday
People
in
Tampa
are
getting
caught
up
in
the
crosshairs
between
like
city,
council
and
the
mayor's
office
and
whatever
like
nonsense.
Y'all
have
been
up
to
for
this
last
year
and
ultimately,
that's
not
what
any
of
us
care
about
in
the
city.
What
we
care
about
is
like
real
accountability.
AE
What
we
care
about
is
making
sure
that
our
voices
are
heard
when
it
comes
down
to
these
laws
that
keep
getting
passed.
AE
AE
A
sense
like
what
2015
demanded
more
police
accountability
and
there
hasn't
really
been
an
opportunity
for,
like
our
voices
to
be
directly
heard
like
we
would
see
through,
like
this
ballot,
people
have
been
up
there,
demanding
actual
change
and
for
the
mayor
to
be
able
to
just
like
side
swipe
that
on
a
whim,
essentially
out
of
the
blue
is
just
you
know
wrong.
AE
It's
wrong
for
folks
who
claim
to
like
love
and
respect.
Democracy
is
wrong
for
folks
who
claim
to
love
and
respect
like
the
people
that
they
roll
over
is
not
the
word,
but
the
people
that
they
govern
over.
You
know
so.
I
just
asked
that
y'all
override
that
ballot
and
you
do
the
right
thing.
Let
the
people,
let
the
people
vote
on
what
like
matters
to
them.
Thank
you,
for
example,.
AF
There's
people
that
still
need
fundings,
I
had
covert
like
last
year
and
I'm
still
having
up
and
down
symptoms,
so
I'm
not
able
to
work
and
I
also
need
assistance
for
my
rent,
I
had
it
in
the
past,
but
I
still
need
more
assistance.
AF
Basically,
you
know
I,
don't
want
to
go
back
to
being
homeless,
I
step
in
my
car
for
many
years,
I
ended
up
at
Parts,
Beach
I
bathed
at
laundromats
and
stuff
I.
Don't
want
to
go
right
there
again.
AF
This
pandemic
is
an
unnatural
disaster.
There
was
no
plan
for
that
like
it's
like
for
hurricanes
and
tornadoes.
So
I
think
this
should
be
a
continuous
thing
to
say
everything
come
back
to
normal
by
funding
us
for
housing,
because
it's
a
lot
of
people
that
need
it.
I
know
that.
So
that's
what
I'm
here
to
speak
about
I,
don't
want
to
go
back
to
the
park.
AF
AG
Hi,
my
name
is
Caroline
Bennett
I'm,
a
lifelong
resident
of
Tampa
I
want
to
talk
about
the
word
impact
I
want
you
to
think
about
the
word
impact.
What
it
means
when
people
move
to
this
city,
they
have
an
impact,
they
have
an
impact
on
the
infrastructure,
they
have
an
impact
on
our
communities.
That's
why
the
city
and
the
county
have
impact
fees.
It's
right
there
in
the
name.
AG
AG
So
the
people
who
are
moving
here,
who
are
having
an
impact,
are
not
paying
for
the
need
that
is
created
by
their
impact
on
our
infrastructure.
The
builders
and
developers
who
are
in
business
to
make
a
profit
on
the
building
that
were
the
people
come
and
move
into
are
not
paying
for
the
impact
I'm
paying
for
the
impact.
I
am
I've
lived
here.
All
my
life
and
I
am
subsidizing.
The
cost
of
the
impact
of
the
new
residences
Channelside
needs
a
new
fire
station.
AG
It
can't
be
paid
for
out
of
the
CRA,
even
though
the
CRA
has
tons
of
money,
so
instead
I
have
to
pay
for
it
and
everyone
else
like
me
who
pays
into
the
general
fund.
It
makes
perfect
sense
that
we
have
a
public
safety
impact
fee,
because
the
people
moving
here
create
an
impact.
The
other
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
is
the
charter
amendments
I
have
been
here
over
and
over
and
over
again
I've
seen
on
TV
I
have
looked
on.
Youtube
I've
seen
the
discussions
about
the
charter
impacts.
AG
AG
We
count
on
you
to
listen
to
us
because,
unlike
the
mayor-
and
this
is
not
a
criticism
of
the
mayor,
but
unlike
the
mayor,
it's
citizens-
anybody
can
come
before
you
multiple
times
a
month
like
I'm
doing
right
now,
and
they
can
tell
you
what
they
care
about
and
what's
going
on
in
this
city,
they
can
also
call
most
of
you
and
make
an
appointment
and
you
will
sit
down
and
you
will
talk
to
them,
face
to
face
that
sort
of
access
is
not
available
to
the
mayor
and
I'm.
Not
that's,
not
a
criticism.
AG
There
are
seven
of
you
there's
only
one
of
her,
but
you
have
a
much
better
idea
of
what
is
going
on
on
the
ground
level
in
the
city,
because
you
interact
with
the
citizens
to
a
much
greater
degree.
We
need
you
to
be
independent.
We
need
checks
and
balances.
There's
been
plenty
of
time
to
talk
about
this.
We
all
know
about
it.
Anybody
who
wants
to
know
about
it
knows
about
it.
AG
G
Can
you
see
it
good
morning?
My
name
is
Stephanie
Poyner
I
live
in
South
Tampa,
everybody
knows:
I
live
in
SOG
South
Gandy.
Today,
I
want
to
talk
about
number,
eight
number,
nine
and
in
particular
our
public
safety
programs.
This
Nifty
little
map
right
here
is
from
the
firefighters
Union,
and
this
is
from
2019.
It
said
we
needed
15
new
fire
station.
I
have
personally
read
the
2000
pages
of
the
last
two
years:
budgets.
There's
no
fire
station
planned,
and
this
says
we
need
15..
G
I
watched,
Chief
Tripp
come
up
here
a
week
or
so
ago
and
say
they
gave
her
all
the
data
in
every
other
department
in
the
city.
They
have
somebody
who
does
a
study
and
it's
a
complete
study
and
they
give
them
a
Way,
Forward
Chief
trips
of
wonderful
fire
chief,
but
she's,
not
a
data
analysis.
These
people
did
the
work.
It's
already
done.
You
don't
even
have
to
pay
for
a
study.
If
you
pay
attention
to
this,
we
have
6330
new
apartments,
south
of
Gandy
west
of
Dale
Mabry.
G
But
yet
we
have
not
one
additional
fireman.
We
don't
even
have
an
EMS
unit
in
our
area
and-
and
this
isn't
just
our
problem-
I'm
just
I-
know
the
data
and
the
numbers
for
my
particular
area.
It's
throughout
the
entire
city
I'm
wondering
why
this
isn't
a
top
priority
and
the
safety
impact
fees.
The
public
safety
impact
fees
were
asked
for
initially
in
2021
by
councilman,
dinkfelder
and
I'm.
Sorry,
Chief,
Bennett,
I
love
you
man,
but
you
got
up
here
and
said
we
didn't
need
them
and
I
I'm
very,
very
distinctly.
G
Remember
that
and
it
hurt
my
heart
at
that
point:
these
impact
fees
when
you've
got
6
300
Apartments,
which
are
four
Storey
units
which
we
didn't
even
have
any
four
store
units.
When
we
started
all
this
building
south
of
Gandy,
so
we've
got
four-story
plywood
buildings
that
are
being
built
and
we
have
no
additional
fire
resources.
What
happens
when
one
of
them
catches
on
fire
seriously?
I
mean
it's
something
to
very
seriously.
Consider
and
they're
falling
apart.
G
I
have
taken
several
folks
on
tours
and
they
are
literally
falling
apart
and
they're.
No
let
they're
no
more
than
five
years
old.
We
have
to
start
holding
people's
feet
to
the
fire,
it
has
to
happen.
Public
Safety
is
important
and
is
obviously
not
in
the
budget,
so
where
what?
Why
are
we
not
spending
this
money
on
this?
This
is
very,
very
important.
We
had
a
gentleman
who
died,
South
and
South
Tampa
recently,
because
we
and
we
weren't
able
to
get
the
folks
down
there.
G
K
Good
morning
my
name
is
Kayla
mccaskill
I,
Echo,
woman
up
and
walk
over,
but
based
on
this
latest
veto,
it
really
gives
me,
as
a
native
as
a
citizen
here
in
Tampa
I,
feel
like
it
really
doesn't
matter
what
I
want
as
a
community
member.
It
really
doesn't
matter
what
the
community
community
wants.
It
almost
gives
you
a
feel
that
you're,
almost
a
second
class
citizen,
so
I've
come
to
the
realization
that
any
hopes
to
be
heard.
K
You
know
to
get
a
message
out
or
the
desires
of
the
community
that
I've
heard
from
in
the
community
that
comes
from
here.
I
can
participate,
I
can
interact
with
you
all
I
can
call
you
listen
you
sit
there.
You
respond
as
much
as
possible,
but
I
just
want
to
say
to
you
that,
as
disrespectful
as
it
was
to
veto
that
and
not
come
to
the
community
at
least
act
like
you
give.
You
want
to
hear
what
we
have
to
say
to
do
that
and
not
interact
with
the
community.
K
I'm
sure
she
probably
met
with
you
all
individually
and
told
you
what
she
gonna
do
really
didn't.
Take
your
input.
She
told
you
what
she
was
going
to
do
as
disrespectful
as
it
is.
Jane
already
know,
she's
going
to
be
the
mayor
for
the
next
four
years
and
we're
just
gonna
have
to
suffer
and
accept
that
and
I
meant
to
say
Jane
I
know
it's
disrespectful,
but
I
feel
like
she
slapped
me
in
the
face.
K
It's
a
slap
back
I
feel
like
it's
necessary,
so
I
realize
that
it's
going
to
come
from
here
it's
going
to
come
from
you
all
to
be
heard.
It's
going
to
come
from
you.
We
already
know
it's
a
strong
mayor
form
of
government,
but
we
need
council
members,
that's
concerned
with
the
people.
I
believe
that
most
of
you,
you
do
care.
You
do
care
what
we
have
to
say.
You
do
care
what
we
want
and
you
understand
you
are
the
person
that
helps
to
make
those
things
happen.
K
She
already
knows
she's
going
to
be
the
mayor,
but
some
of
you
is
questionable.
If
we
don't
see
the
leader
in
you
today,
why
do
we
need
you?
We
looking
for
leaders,
we're
looking
for
people,
that's
not
afraid
we're
looking
for
those
people
that
can
stand
flat-footed.
Look
her
in
her
eye
and
say:
what's
best
for
the
people,
everybody
has
to
be
accountable
to
somebody
I
submit
to
you.
She
should
be
accountable
to
us
and
she
should
certainly
be
accountable
to
you
all
I'm
telling
you
today
we're
watching.
K
AH
Good
morning,
Council
Robin
Lockett
I
agree
with
everything.
That's
been
said
thus
far.
Why
not?
Why
not
let
people
vote
it
baffles
me,
I've,
been
in
here,
I
I
was
here
in
February
when
pure
was
here
and
the
17
questions
were
supposed
to
be
answered
and
from
what
I
hear
now,
nothing
has
has
occurred.
AH
I
was
here
throughout
the
time
of
the
discussion
around
Charter.
The
charter
revision
proud
that
y'all
vote
unanimously,
so
I
have
a
lot
of
stuff
written
down,
but
my
challenge
to
you
is:
how
are
you
going
to
change
your
vote
if
you
voted
One
Time,
One
Way?
Why
not
be
consistent,
so
we
shouldn't
even
be
having
this
conversation.
If
you
vote
you
stand
by
your
vote,
we
need
consistency.
We
need
a
commitment
and,
like
I
always
tell
you
guys,
one
person
does
not
rule
what
was
said
previously.
AH
We
put
each
and
every
one
of
you
in
office
you're,
going
to
look
for
our
support
on
March
7th
you're,
going
to
look
for
our
support,
March
7th,
and
how
are
you
going
to
handle
it?
How
are
you,
how
are
you
going
to
handle?
What's
going
on
right
now,.
AH
For
each
amendment
that
was
presented
I'm
so
curious
to
see
how
Brave
you
are
to
stand
by
your
vote
to
stand
by
your
vote,
regardless
of
the
conversations
that
you've
had
because
I
heard
y'all
had
conversations
on
Friday
about
this
with
one
one
by
one.
AH
AI
Hi,
my
name
is
Simon,
Rowe
and
I'm
here
today,
because
two
months
before
a
municipal
election
on
March
7th,
we
had
the
mayor
decide
to
veto
referendums
that
you
all
as
a
collective,
have
passed
frankly.
Reading
yesterday's
op-ed
was
a
surprise
to
me,
so
I'm
sure
it
was
to
all
of
you.
It
was
also
surprised
to
see
you
know.
These
vetoes
come
be
claimed
to
be
about
transparency.
AI
What
is
transparent
about
releasing
an
op-ed
on
a
Wednesday
morning,
not
telling
city
council
not
telling
the
Community
First
and
making
an
override
of
the
decision
that
we
as
a
community
wanted
that
city
council
was
okay
with
she
overrode
all
of
us
here
and
to
call
that
transparency.
What
was
transparent
about
you
know
having
secret
closed
doors
meetings
before
you
all
were
able
to
vote
on.
You
know
the
independent
Council
referendum.
The
mayor
is
not
operating
in
the
light
of
day
to
let
us
have
input
on
this
decision.
AI
She
is
trying
to
supplement
your
decisions
and
the
will
of
the
people
to
obstruct
our
rights
of
democracy
and
to
decide
how
the
city
of
Tampa
is
run.
We
are
here
today
because
we
are
asking
that
referendums
like
this
do
not
die
in
the
dark.
We
want
to
have
more
of
an
input
here
in
the
city,
and
we
talk
about
coming
to
City
Council
meetings.
I
mean
how
many
people
can
speak
in
just
one
day,
maybe
50..
If
we
talk
fast
thousands
of
people
vote
in
elections.
AI
This
is
a
chance
to
get
an
unprecedented
level
of
input
on
the
citizens
review
board
and
on
how
the
city
of
Tampa
functions
and
we're
just
and
I'm
kind
of
disgusted
that
our
mayor
is
trying
to
shut
all
of
that
down
Caleb
before
it
even
gets
to
the
election
and
I'm
asking
you
don't
let
it
die,
don't
let
it
die
in
silence
on
a
random
Wednesday
in
January.
Let
this
continue
to
the
ballot.
So
people
can
vote
whether
or
not
they
can
be
here.
AI
Let
us
have
an
input
on
how
the
crb
is
run
and
also
that
other
referendum
on
electing
department
heads.
So
we
don't
have
a
repeat
of
the
embarrassment
of
former
police
chief
O'connor,
a
national
level
embarrassment
of
a
department
head.
You
know,
having
you
know,
abused
her
power
in
office.
We
are
sick
of
seeing
these
abuses
of
power
deciding
what's
best
for
this
community.
We
can
speak
for
ourselves,
we
can
vote
for
ourselves.
We
don't
like
being
talked
over.
AI
AJ
Nice
to
see
you
whoever
wrote
that
op-ed
for
mayor
Castor
yesterday
was
Mr.
AJ
Yes,
for
your
for
your
record
Mr
Shelby,
Kelly,
Benjamin,
504,
Fern
Street.
Thank
you.
Whoever
wrote
that
op-ed
was
skilled
in
orwellian
double
speak
and
I
know
that
the
council
certainly
sees
through
it.
The
the
mayor
wrote.
Our
voters
deserve
better
while
denying
the
citizens
of
the
city
the
right
to
vote
on
issues
that
will
impact
their
lives
and
their
communities.
AJ
It's
unbelievable,
I
know
this.
The
the
city
council
sees
through
that
a
rushed
and
haphazard
process.
I,
sat
and
watched
these
Council
meetings
for
months.
It
was
a
long,
arduous
process
where
you
listen
to
the
community
and
you
considered
what
people
were
telling
you.
This
veto
is
clearly
an
attempt,
as
was
said
previously
at
voter
suppression,
and
this
Council
can
either
sign
off
on
that
or
you
can
stand
up
for
the
citizens
of
this
city,
who
have
been
pushing
for
transparency
for
dialogue
and
opportunity
to
weigh
in
on
these
important
issues.
AJ
You
can
stand
up
for
what's
right
and
and
not
go
along
as
a
Toady
for
a
mat,
a
power
mad
mayor
who
targets
members
of
this
city
council
when
you
defy
her.
AJ
This
is
a
mayor,
that's
responsible
for
for
biking,
while
black
and
defending
the
renting
wild
black
program,
the
the
crime-free
house
multi-housing
program,
and
then
she
went
against
the
the
voice
of
the
citizens
of
this
city
and
and
the
advice
of
council
and
and
hired
a
police
chief
Americana,
where
we
all
know
how
that
went.
AJ
AK
AK
This
is
the
worst
time
to
be
running
for
office
right
now,
the
worst
time
to
be
running
for
office
man
I
feel
sorry,
that's
what
I
told
y'all
I
ain't
even
gonna
sit
here
and
get
my
each
time
you
pop
up
to
talk
about
the
mortgages
instead
of
getting
it
Consolidated
in
three
minutes,
but
I'm
here
to
say
that,
hopefully,
at
12
noon
tomorrow,
we'll
know
what's
going
on,
we
know
who
and
who
at
we'll
know
the
Slate
will
know
what
we
got
out
there
to
choose
from.
AK
You
know
what
we
got
to
choose
from
it
and
the
pick
of
this
real
Slim
who
contested
and
who
ain't
so
I
just
want
to.
You
know
tell
you
guys
that
I
don't
have
no
issues
with
the
city
when
I
do
I
take
care
of
them
right,
Mr,
Bennett!
We
pray
on
it,
so
bottom
line
is:
is
that
I'll
be
coming
back,
it's
being
monitored
rather
closely,
rather
politically
and
there's
some
people,
ain't,
saying
nothing
right
now,
I'm
here
to
tell
you
everybody
up,
there
is
going
to
be
checked
out.
AK
This
is
not
like
any
election
that
I've
ever
seen
since
I've
been
in
town
for
over
60
60
some
years.
This
is
different.
This
is
different
because
we've
got
different
issues.
You
can
hear
the
public,
it's
upset,
you
hit
administrations
upset
you
hear,
counselors
upset
everybody's
upset
ain't,
nobody
gonna
get
what
they
want.
I
can
tell
you
that
nobody's
gonna
get
what
they
want
fully.
So
it's
called
the
a
lot
of
compromise.
AK
It's
called
do
your
best
out
here.
Some
of
y'all
will
probably
be
seen
over
at
the
at
the
Club
luncheon
I
guess
at
the
Cuban
Club,
but
I
just
want
to
tell
you
be
careful.
Make
sure
that
form
six
is
correct
and
Dot
your
eyes
and
cross
your
t's.
Please
thank
you.
B
O
AL
Good
morning
my
name
is
Michael
Randolph
and
I'm
with
the
West
Tampa
Community
Development
Corporation
first
I
want
to
start
off
with
a
special
announcement
and
then
I
want
to
go
back
to
the
business
of
the
West
Tampa
CDC.
The
special
announcement
is
I'm
no
longer
eating
made
I'm
paying
44
a
month.
That's
to
eat
eggs,
so
I'm,
no
longer
even
hey,
have
to
get
that
in
related
to
the
West
Tampa
CDC
on
September,
the
8th
at
7
pm
we'll
be
doing
our
next
community-wide
meeting.
AL
Talking
about
the
suspicious
plan
from
2023
to
2028.
Among
the
topics
that
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
and
what's
on
everybody's
mind,
it's
the
West
Tampa
Public
Safety
initiative,
which
is
going
to
focus
on
ending
the
school
to
prison
pipeline
who
can
have
with
you
and
returning
citizens.
Two
years
ago,
I
talked
to
oh,
maybe
two
and
a
half
years
ago
I
talked
about
the
influx
of
guns.
That's
coming
as
a
result
of
the
stimulus
program
based
on
what
they're
saying,
there's
more
guns
in
our
neighborhoods.
AL
Now
than
any
other
time
before
you
got
kids
going
to
school.
With
guns,
you
got
kids
killing
each
other,
so
the
West
Tampa
Public
Safety
initiative
is
going
to
focus
on
that,
but
simply
The,
Innovation,
Z
and
generation
Alpha
generation
Alpha
was
born
between
2010
and
2023,
and
these
people
are
starting
to
be
the
ones
that
have
committed
the
most
notorious
violence
in
our
neighborhood.
AL
The
other
thing
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
is
West
Tampa,
Community,
Based
and
e-commerce
initiative
was
looking
at
working
with
over
100
residents
over
the
next
five
years
to
start
their
own
home-based
e-commerce
business.
Also,
those
concerned
coming
from
the
community
related
to
West
Tampa
changes
in
the
school
system.
We're
going
to
have
you
superintendent
to
address
the
issue
related
to
West
Tampa
of
schools.
AL
The
other
thing
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
is
the
West
Tampa
CRA
in
the
fundings
that's
available
for
residents,
Community
groups,
businesses,
Etc,
we're
also
going
to
be
talking
about
the
relationship
with
the
Florida
Department
of
Transportation,
in
which
we're
talking
about
over
the
next
five
years,
hundreds
of
jobs
that's
going
to
be
created
for
residents
in
West
Tampa,
but
also
businesses
we're
going
to
connect
those
businesses
also
to
the
initiative.
AL
The
other
thing
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
is
to
West
Tampa
Community
engagement
initiative
over
the
next
six
months,
we'll
be
having
the
focus
group
of
over
300
residents
you're
talking
about
what
is
it
that
they
want
to
see
in
the
future.
These
groups
include
senior
citizens,
rental
people,
homeowners,
youth
out
of
work
people
and
fix
income
individuals
without
someone
who
will
follow
up
on
community
Well
Pharmacy
projects.
Thank
you
very
much
have
a
great
day.
B
H
H
H
It
is
now
before
you
for
reconsideration,
and
my
suggestion
would
be
that
each
ordinance
be
presented
individually
and
it
being
read
by
title
before
you
take
final
action,
as
Council
has
agreed
to
take
any
additional
public
comment.
If
there
is
any
and
if
there's
any
input
from
the
administration
as
well
on
legal,
that
would
be
the
time
to
be
able
to
recognize
them
and
move
forward.
If
you
wish.
H
Specifically,
by
the
way,
for
the
purposes
of
your
consideration,
I've-
provided
you
this
the
summary
in
the
minutes,
because
what
they
do
contain
is
they
do
contain,
and
I'll
confirm
that
with
the
clerk
they
do
confirm
the
ordinances
by
title,
which
have
to
be
read
by
title.
Only
so
you'll
have
those
in
front
of
you
for
each
of
the
ordinances,
as
well
as
the
votes
that
were
recorded
for
those
individual
ordinances
on
January
5th.
Thank
you.
B
R
Only
question
is
obviously
this
is
not
a
second
reading,
so
is
there
any
special
language
we
need
to
use
when,
when
making
the
motion.
H
H
My
suggestion
is
you
just
move
it
as
on
reconsideration
and
read
the
title
by
only
and
again
Council
just
so
you
and
the
public
know
that,
pursuant
to
the
sections
2.10
of
the
charter,
a
two-thirds
affirmative
vote
of
all
members
is
required
and
again
that
would
be
a
a
super
majority
or
five
or
more
votes
and
again
anything
a
vote
or
four
or
fewer
will
sustain
the
mayoral
veto.
B
You
you
are
the
City
attorney
correct.
B
B
B
I'm
asking
you:
does
this
city
council
have
the
powers
through
ordinance
or
through
resolution,
to
do
these
same
changes
that
we
we
have
proposed,
thereby
setting
into
motion
that
these
changes
will
not
have
to
go
to
the
ballot
and
they
can
take
effect
in
three
weeks
give
or
take
a
few
days?
Do
we
have
that
power,
the
legislative
power
to
just
enact
all
these
things
by
ordinance
or
by
resolution.
AM
B
As
Miss
Lockett
said,
and
I
will
paraphrase,
if
we
make
these
laws
and
ordinances
if
we
set
these
wheels
into
motion
to
achieve
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
council
members,
if
we
would
have
done
that
two
weeks
ago,
we
wouldn't
be
here
today,
we,
the
city
council,
ladies
lady
and
gentlemen
council
members-
have
the
power
to
today
say
we
want
to
achieve
these
things
through
ordinances
or
through
resolutions.
Let's
show
our
backbone,
let's
Stand
Up
For
What.
B
R
Attack
while
I
appreciate
that
we
actually
got
quite
a
few
back
and
forth
of
whether
or
not
we
could
do
this
by
ordinance
and
resolution
and
if
we
punt
it
we're
just
basically
having
to
start
all
over
because
today
we
can't
put
these
into
effect,
because
these
ordinances
are
about
putting
this
stuff
on
the
ballot.
It's
not
about
actually
doing
it.
So
we're
going
to
start
all
over
again
and
I'm,
telling
you
the
public,
is
that's
not
what
I'm
hearing?
R
AK
R
So
I
am
absolutely
going
to
vote
to
override
these
and
put
them
on
the
ballot
like
the
public
wanted.
We
all
voted
unanimously
on
four
out
of
the
five
of
these
to
put
them
on
the
ballot.
The
other
one
got
a
five
to
two
vote.
We
already
have
the
votes,
we're
just
here
to
kind
of
just
get
it
done
if.
R
Actually
isn't
because
councils
future
councils
can
overturn
that.
So
no,
it's
not,
but
also
that's
not
what
what's
happening
today.
That's
you're,
basically
just
starting
the
cycle
all
over
again
and
we
already
agreed.
We
already
agreed
unanimous
votes
on
putting
these
on
the
council,
or
rather
on
the
ballot
for
the
people,
and
you
know
what
this
that's
the
thing
it
is
rolling
the
dice,
but
we
all
agree
if
the
people
don't
want
it,
they're
just
gonna
vote.
B
R
And
I
I'm
going
to
reply
again
that
know
that,
in
order
for
a
charter
to
be
overturned,
it
has
to
go
back
to
the
voters.
So
that
can't
happen
with
the
seven
of
us
or
the
seven
people
sitting
here.
It
has
to
go
back
to
the
voters.
So
what
the
voters
are
saying
is
that
they
want
to
vote
on
all
these
things.
So
if
you
want
to
do
that
route,
it's
actually
probably
going
to
take
longer
to
go
through
ordinance
because
we
have
first
reading.
R
B
J
J
This
is
a
democracy.
This
is
the
United
States.
We
have
a
separation
of
power,
we
believe
in
democracy
in
this
country,
the
City
attorney
and
the
staff
of
the
city
they
report
as
much
as
the
city
council
as
they
do
to
to
the
mayor.
However,
past
City
attorneys,
not
this
one
but
past
City
attorneys
have
misinterpreted
the
charter.
They
misinterpreted
ordinances.
Just
last
week
we
fixed
a
problem.
We
fixed
it
by
ordinance
because
we
were
told
we
shouldn't
do
it
by
by
Charter.
J
We
fix
a
problem
that
we're
four
years
of
liability
out
there,
because
a
City
attorney
and
two
paragraphs
overturned
what
the
charter
said
and
what
an
ordinance
had
passed
in
2006
to
put
the
city
at
legal
liability
in
in
not
allowing
city
council
to
prove
settlement
agreements.
It's
ridiculous.
The
things
that
have
gone
on
in
the
city,
the
public
is
not
happy,
it's
not
professional,
and
the
problem
is
that
is
that
this
is
this
Administration
looks
at
everything
from
a
political
lens.
J
Everything
is
a
political
campaign
we
are
here
to
set
policy
policy
is
about
listening,
the
public,
analyzing,
the
facts
and
creating
Solutions,
it's
not
about
who
wins
and
who
loses
it's,
not
about
who's,
going
to
run
against
whom,
because
they've
had
a
conspiracy
theory
for
three
and
a
half
years
that
I
was
going
to
run
against
her
they've
been
constantly
attacking
me
and
sabotaging
me,
they
help
work
to
get
dingfelder
out
and
they
tried
to
get
Goods
out.
It's
despicable.
You
cannot
use
City
resources
to
attack
city
council
members
who
are
elected
by
the
public.
J
You've
got
to
respect
it
and
you
should
not
participate
and
collude
to
throw
out
City
Council
Members,
an
election.
It's
despicable
and
I
will
tell
you
I'm
somebody
that
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
problems
with
city
council
or
the
conflict.
It's
all
coming
from
the
mayor's
office,
it's
coming
across
the
street.
J
If
you
want
to
know
where
it
is,
go
there
what's
happening,
is
we're
standing
up
to
it
because
we
don't
like
it
and
I
and
I
will
tell
you
I'm
somebody
who
believes
in
collaboration
I'm
someone
who
prides
myself
in
being
collaborative
across
the
region
around
the
world.
I've
worked
on
collaboration.
This
Administration
does
not
want
to
collaborate.
Last
week
the
mayor
said
in
the
media
I
want
to
meet
with
every
city
councilman.
She
hates
me.
Her
staff
hate.
A
J
They've
sabotage
me
for
three
and
a
half
years
how
many
of
what
you
would
have
gone
to
her
office
and
met
with
her
I
did
I
changed
my
schedule
and
I
met
her
on
Friday
morning
chief
of
staff.
Was
there
as
a
witness
and
I
said
to
her
Madam
mayor.
You
have
three
choices
you
can
vote
to
approve.
You
can
sign
these
and
make
a
public
statement.
Have
a
press
conference
and
say
I.
Don't
like
these
I,
don't
support
them.
J
You
can
even
campaign
against
them,
but
ultimately
the
public
has
the
right
to
view
them
and
what
you
can
say
is
I
stand
by
the
Public's
right
to
choose
or
you
can
veto
them
and
send
this
city
into
Political
chaos.
You
can
reinforce
the
message
that
city
council
and
the
mayor
don't
get
along.
I
said
that
last
week
I
said:
I
hope
you
don't
do
that,
because
I
want
to
get
along.
We
all
want
to
get
along.
We
all
want
to
work
peacefully
together.
Why
do
you
want
to
create
political
chaos?
Number
three?
J
You
can
have
a
pocket
video
which
will
send
us
into
a
legal
fight
that
will
last
forever
thank
God.
She
didn't
do
that.
Why
would
a
sitting
mayor
want
to
want
to
break
the
president
of
Decades
of
City
Council
on
Mayors
getting
along
to
create
political
chaos?
They
come
up
with
every
excuse.
They
can
to
stop
this.
They
come
up
with
legal
excuses
and
legal
interpretations
that
stop
it.
J
We
could
have
gone
through
the
most
pristine
process
following
everything,
and
they
still
would
have
made
up
something
to
stop
it,
and-
and
none
of
this
is
substantive,
how
does
setting
term
limits
for
city
council
disrupt
the
strong
mayor
form
of
government
it?
Doesn't
they
just
want
to
win?
It's
just
about
politics,
it's
about
a
checklist
of
who
won
and
who
lost
and
I
will
tell
you
the
other
thing.
I
said
the
Mayors
I
presented
like
22
different
proposals,
because
she
called
the
other
City
Council
Members
I
lost
every
single
vote.
J
All
of
those
are
great
suggestions
for
our
community
that
would
have
protected
our
community.
I
lost
every
single
one
of
them.
I
did
not
propose
any
of
these
I
said
you
already
won
against
me.
Why
are
you
still
fighting
these,
but
they
want
a
political
fight?
That's
what
they're
going
to
do.
It
is
Despicable.
We
should
vote
for
these
today,
not
to
fight
back
not
to
get
revenge,
because
we
should
not
be
a
political
body.
J
B
N
Very
much
chairman
appreciate
it
very
much.
First
of
all,
this
is
only
the
second
time
and
since
I've
been
sitting
on
Council
that
this
has
come
up
for
a
review
or
possible
conflict
with
the
administration
and
the
legislative
branch.
The
first
one
was
back
in
the
70s
mid
70s
over
a
vote
for
a
pay
raise
for
the
firefighters,
Local
754
and
the
three
that
led
the
firefighters.
Commercial
was
Mr,
larandy,
Mr,
sunardi
and
Mr.
N
N
It
came
back
to
the
council
just
like
this
is
coming
back
and
it
was
overwritten
by
the
cancer
on
a
five
to
two
vote.
That's
fine!
And
since
then
there
was
a
big
article
in
one
of
the
daily
newspapers
that
called
us
all:
the
firefighters
five,
which
was
nice.
The
newspaper
did
their
story
and
that's
how
they
felt
and
I
agree
that
they
have
the
right
to
do
that.
Let's
get
to
where
we're
at
today
when
you
start
to
review
all
these
things,
and
if
you
look
at
number
80
I
didn't
vote
for
it.
N
I
said
the
process
is
Tainted
how
we
started
it.
Let's
go
back
to
when
we
put
back
the
citizen
review
board
regarding
the
charter,
we
in
Council
and
then
the
mayor,
a
different
mayor,
work
together
to
put
together
individuals
from
this
community
in
different
sectors
to
represent
the
public
in
having
negotiations
and
among
themselves
to
think
what
was
best
for
them
to
present
to
this
Council.
That
was
here
then
for
the
charter
review
it
took
about
a
year.
I
never
went
to
one
of
those
meetings.
N
There
are
I,
think
three
or
four
members
here
that
were
part
of
that,
including
some
from
the
legal
department,
some
of
the
city.
Now
as
council
members,
we
did
that
that
we
do
that
in
this
process.
No,
it
came
from
a
council
member
who
started
it
in
this
chamber
right
there
in
the
process.
I
think
there's
something
wrong
about
transparency.
Let
me
say
that
going
in
and
I
have
no
regards
to
anybody
that
they
do
what
they
want.
See
I
was
born
alone,
I
hope,
I,
die
alone
and
I
don't
mind
voting
alone.
N
Those
are
the
three
things
I
believe
in.
So
when
you
look
at
that,
and
you
look
at
what
we're
doing
now,
we
should
really
have,
instead
of
having
all
this
BS
and
I'm,
not
talking
about
Barbra
Streisand,
to
put
on
the
budget,
I
mean
on
the
election.
Do
you
want
to
change
the
city
government?
That's
what
it
is
when
and
I
gave
you
a
for
instance.
Not
too
long
ago,
two
or
three
months
ago,
we
had
an
individual
that
we
hired
Miss
Travis.
We.
S
N
A
wrong
process
of
having
three
or
four
individuals
apply
for
a
certain
job
and
that
individual
was
qualified
the
most
by
this
Council
and
took
the
job
we
voted
on
him.
He
came
here
and
spoke
guess
what
that
individual
did.
He
was
much
smarter
than
what
I
thought
he
was.
He
saw
us
on
TV
one
day
and
called
in
and
quit
before.
He
took
the
job,
am
I
right,
Miss
Travis.
N
So
what
message
are
we
sending
that
we're
really
strong
or
they
were
really
divided-
I
meet
with
a
bear
once
a
month?
And
it's
only
about
me
as
I'm.
Not
that's
not
my
position.
That
was
a
memorial
position
from
mayor
Greco
from
mayor
Buckhorn
from
mayor
Oreo
and
now
mayor,
Castro,
Ford
and
I've,
sat
on
that
board
of
Tampa
Bay
Water
since
1998
other
than
four
years
from
2003
to
2007..
N
N
It's
only
we
cut
it
down
to
this,
but
in
that
first
ordinance,
I
voted
no
and
I
said
then
that
I'm
voting.
No
because
the
process
was
tainted.
I
said
it.
Then
you
can
check
the
others.
I
voted,
yes
to
see
where
I
was
standing
with
that
no
vote
and
I
got
the
message
loud
and
clear.
I
learned
from
what
I
learned
in
the
past,
you
see.
N
There's
smart
people,
they're,
intelligent
people,
they're
people
who
know
a
lot
do
things
better
than
we
do
and
then
there's
people
that
just
understand
where
you
come
from.
There's
wife
in
it
I
understand
where
I
came
from
I
understand
what
a
handshake
means.
I
understand
when
my
mother
told
me
something
it
violated,
I
was
going
to
have
consequences
and
I
had
consequences.
I
didn't
always
do
what
my
mother
wanted
me
to
do.
So
what
I'm
saying
today
is
we
really
want
to
change
things?
N
Have
a
debate
go
back,
put
a
board
in
go
on
and
do
the
right
thing.
If
you
really
want
to
do
it
right,
let's
get
input
from
the
people
we
put
on
to
tell
the
elected
officials
what
they
think
it
should
be
changed,
not
US,
changing
the
the
items
without
any
contract
with
the
people
that
we
put
in
on
that
review
board.
Those
are
the
things
that
are
to
me
are
unacceptable
and
I
understand:
I,
don't
talk
to
any
council
members
about
anything
regarding
that
they
do
what
they
want
to
do.
AN
Vera,
thank
you
very
much
and
thank
everybody.
Thank
you.
Mr
chair.
You
know
what,
when
I
hear
things
coming
out
of
city
council
it
it
it
the
the
rhetoric,
we've
seen,
etc,
etc.
The
rhetoric
that
has
been
encouraged.
It
really
really
bothers
me,
I'm,
always
the
kind
of
person
who
believes
that
you
can
have
both
things.
I
believe
that
you
can
override
a
marriage
veto
right
and
have
a
simple
disagreement
on
things
without
being
uncivil
without
escalating
tensions,
especially
in
a
political
year
when
there's
so
much
to
gain.
AN
We
hear
so
much
rhetoric,
so
much
rhetoric,
I
I
I
was
talking
to
someone
yesterday
when
someone
said
the
mayor
and
again
by
the
way,
disagree
with
the
marriage
Vita
and
tend
to
override,
but
somebody
said:
oh,
the
mirror,
suppressing
votes,
it's
voter
suppression,
it's
authoritarian
instead
or
I
said
well.
Let's
say
that
a
a
voter
initiative
came
to
and
you
were
an
executive
and
it
was
going
to
tear
down
labor
unions
right.
You
would
veto
it
because
you
opposed
the
substance
of
it.
Is
that
voter
suppression?
AN
No,
it's
expressing
your
opinion
as
a
democratically
elected
official
is
what
we're
doing
somehow
out
of
bounds.
Absolutely
not
because
we
are
elected
officials
acting
pursuant
to
the
Charter
and
that's
what
I
intend
to
do.
We
do
see
a
ton.
Voter
suppression
is
real
right
vote.
Since
2020
we've
had
about
250
attempts
in
over
40
States
for
voter
suppression
legislation,
2018
I,
remember:
Governor,
Northern,
District,
Judge,
Mark
Walker
struck
down
a
bill
by
Governor
Rick
Scott
to
preclude
early
voting
on
college
campuses.
AN
Of
course,
we
saw
January
6th
many
many
issues
of
voter
suppression
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
frame
issues
as
they
are
when
I
hear
language
on
that,
including
authoritarian
Etc
I,
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
stay
within
reasonable
reality
on
this
again,
it
is
my
opinion
we're
going
to
go
forward
today
and
over
I
I
think
and
override
the
mayor's
veto,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
not
needlessly
escalate
the
political
rhetoric
where
it
does
not
to
need
to
be
in
this
city
government.
We
have
a
disagreement.
AN
I
disagree
with
the
mayor
on
these
initiatives
that
she
vetoed
I'm,
going
to
vote
to
override
there's
one
I
want
to
cry
inquire
on
and
then
vote
to
override.
That's
what
I
intend
to
do,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
terms
of
the
debate
are
fair
and
that
they
do
not
again
escalate
the
political
rhetoric
and
the
city
government,
where
we
are
right
now
going
over
the
edge
on
this,
and
we
need
to
turn
back
just
a
little
bit
where
we
can
disagree
with
one
another
right
and
not
needless
demonize
one.
AN
Another
I
I
think
that
we
can
do
that
here
when
I
take
a
look
and
I've
said
it
again
and
again.
These
proposed
ballot
measures
are
not
radical,
they're,
very,
very
simple:
I
support
them
in
substance.
The
voters
want
to
vote
on
them.
Let's
go
for
it,
no
problems
there,
but
that's
a
point
that
I
do
want
to
make,
because
that's
something
that's
very
important
to
me.
I
guess,
if
you
will
I
mentioned
a
judge,
you
know.
Sometimes,
when
you
go
on
an
opinion
you
file,
what's
called
a
concurring
opinion.
AN
C
Much
I
wrote
down
what
somebody
said
earlier
and
said
vote
for
what
you
think
is
right
and
be
independent.
That's
something
my
mother
says,
do
what
you
think
is
right.
That's
it
that's
the
advice
she
gives
me
and
thank
for
yourself,
which
means
be
independent
and
I.
Also
add
to
that.
Do
your
due
diligence,
you
know
I,
find
it
unnecessary
and
offensive
to
do
a
blanket
veto
of
everything.
C
I
can
understand
and
doing
my
due
diligence,
the
pros
and
cons
of
some
of
these
things
and
looking
into
the
reasoning
as
to
why
the
mayor
vetoed
some,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
some
are
are
no-brainers
and
I'll
get
into
the
sentence
as
we
take
each
one
one
by
one,
but
you
know
we're
not
hurting
anybody
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it
goes
back
to
things
that
my
mother
tells
me
and
things
that
I
heard
today
vote
for
what
you
think
is
right
and
be
independent
and
that's
it.
So.
Thank.
S
U
U
U
I've
done
that
I
gathered
all
the
council
members
together
to
go
across
the
street.
With
many
of
you
said:
I
don't
want
to
go
there,
but
because
I
was
a
chairman,
you
believed
in
me
you,
you
went,
you
told
me
I'm
gonna,
go
because
it's
you,
even
though
you
didn't
vote
for
certain
things,
I'm
appreciative
of
that,
because
I
want
us
to
be
a
body
of
together.
People
I
believe
that
I'm
never
going
to
disrespect
any
other
council
members.
No
matter
what
I
have
a
problem.
U
I'll
come
to
you
I'm,
going
to
go
over
to
the
ministry
I'm
not
going
to
do
something.
I'm
gonna
come
to
you!
That's
why
I
believe
and
how
to
handle
business
say
that
with
the
administration
you
got
a
problem.
You
come
to
the
council
members
you
work
it
out,
then
you
don't
try
to
sabotage
and
do
things
that
I
believe
are
unethical.
U
You
know
we
all
had
our
meeting
with
the
mayor
and
we
all
probably
said
what
we
had
to
say
to
them.
That's
the
things
I
said,
and
you
know
don't
even
wish.
I
took
him
back
because
I
was
truthful
at
the
time.
I
was
angry,
but
I
didn't
I
didn't
go
in
a
certain
area.
I
wanted
to
go
because
my
faith
led
me
to
say
no.
You
stop
yourself.
You
said
enough.
U
I
will
always
work
with
the
administration
I.
If
I'm
here
tomorrow
going
tomorrow,
I'm
still
gonna
be
the
same
person,
I'm
gonna
say
what
I
have
to
say.
That's
why
I'm
an
outspoken
person
I'm,
not
the
angry
black
man,
I'm,
just
a
man
with
passionate
who's,
singing
things
in
their
city
that
have
been
wrong
and
for
communities
have
been
wronged.
U
What
I
see
in
this
city?
It's
just
about
power
and
money
at
times
power
and
money
and
money
is
through
to
all
evil.
As
we
all
know,
I,
don't
like
a
strong
former
mayoral
government,
because
it's
a
dictatorship
at
times
I
truly
believe
that
because
they're
run
by
power
and
money,
but
when
you
have
a
collegial
body
who
can
hear
the
people
because
I
feel
we
hear
the
people,
you
have
some
constituents
out
there
say
you
can't
just
talk
to
the
mayor,
get
a
point
with
me.
U
U
Yes,
it's
good
to
have
an
executive
who
can
run
the
city
and
do
those
things,
but
we
can't
do
that's
great,
but
I
believe
money
and
power
gets
infected.
When
you
have
someone
who
who
who
has
control,
we
have
no
control
over
employees.
We
have
no
control
of
this
and
that
we
have
control
to
legislate
this
community.
This
city
make
sure
things
are
done
on
board
and
properly
and
when
citizens
come
here
every
Thursday
and
make
their
complaints,
it's
our
job
to
hear
their
complaints
and
ask
questions
and
get
it
right
to
the
best.
U
We
can
I'm
always
going
to
do
that.
I'm
always
going
to
listen
to
the
people
and
they
suddenly
I,
don't
agree.
I'm
going
to
go
to
the
people
say
well.
I
can't
support
that
I'm
going
to
tell
you
why
I
can't
support
I
won't
be
up
front
with
them,
no
different
developers.
They
come
and
say:
I'm
gonna
tell
you
this.
You
need
to
do
this
this
and
that
I
can't
support
that
I'm,
not
a
guy
to
sit
online
and
wave
everywhere.
U
You
know-
and
you
know
me
I-
don't
do
that
anything
I
can
tell
you
right
now
how
I
feel
I
don't
need
to
waver
with
anybody
if
I
don't
like
someone
would
tell
you,
you
need
to
keep
having
a
debate
mayor's
already
vetoed
it.
I,
don't
know
what
the
discussion
is.
My
thing
is:
let's
go
take
the
vote.
The
public
is
already
spoken.
You
know
it
is
what
it
is
at
this
point.
U
U
U
U
This
has
been
a
downfall,
sometimes
this
Council
that
we're
not
listening
to
the
people
on
real
issues.
This
Charter,
we
know
if
I
had
got
the
power.
It
needs
to
be
looked
at
again
because
there
are
things
that
are
wrong
in
it
interpretations
we
have
members
who
sit
on
the
board
and
we
know
that's
why
we're
raising
hell
saying
we
didn't
know,
but
we
know
now
the
things
that
need
to
be
changed.
I
yield
back,
sir.
B
R
And
I
appreciate
all
of
my
colleagues
comments.
You
know
we
do
have
a
strong
mayor
form
of
government
and
it
may
not
be
in
the
charter
itself,
but
because
of
how
the
administration
Works,
how
the
charter
has
laid
out
how
the
city
runs.
There
is
someone
who
runs
the
day-to-day
operation,
but
our
job
as
city
council
is
to
make
the
laws
and
we
are
at
checks
and
balances
on
how
all
that
works.
We
look
at
the
cost
of
things.
Every
week
we
look
at
changing
land
use.
R
Zoning
our
job
is
to
set
the
path
for
the
administration
to
follow.
That
is
what
we're
supposed
to
do.
That's
what
the
balance
of
power
is.
So,
yes,
there's
a
strong
mayoral
form
of
government,
but
the
city
council
is
supposed
to
act
as
a
check
and
balances
system
and,
to
be
honest,
a
lot
of
the
times
we
haven't
done
that
this
body
has
sat
as
a
rubber
stamp
for
many
many
many
years.
This
particular
Council
has
decided.
They
don't
want
to
do
that
anymore.
So
so,
while
there
may
be
disagreement,
there's
not
a
fight.
R
All
it
is
is
now
we
have
a
culture
where
we're
disagreeing,
sometimes
we're
just
disagreeing.
I
mean
I
always
tell
people
like
I
chose
my
husband,
like
I
love
that
man,
but
there
is
no
way
I,
don't
agree
with
him
on
everything.
So
how
in
the
world
can
I
agree
with
anyone
else
and
that's
the
way
I
feel
we
did
sit
down?
We
did
talk
about
these
and
the
mayor
asked
me
if
I
had
any
problems
with
them,
I
said
no
was
I
concerned
that
the
public
didn't
have
enough
time.
I
said
no.
R
We
had
at
least
four
different
meetings
where
we
were
able
to
talk
about
this
and
over
and
over
again
the
public
said
they
wanted
to
have
a
word
in
this.
They
wanted
to
vote
so
my
thing
I'm
not
going
to
approve
any
type
of
just
ordinance
or
resolution
to
get
it
done,
because
what
we're
hearing?
What
I'm
hearing
now
is
that
the
people
want
this
done.
They
want
to
vote
on
it,
there's
nothing
special
about
overriding,
a
veto.
R
R
We
were
elected
or
appointed
to
do
this
job,
to
look
at
each
thing
and
decide
whether
or
not
it
fits
with
where
our
city
needs
to
go
and
the
public
is
telling
us
they
want
input
on
how
our
city
runs,
especially
when
it
comes
to
I'm
going
to
single
out
one
of
them.
The
interim
department
heads
The
public's,
saying
what
happened
what
nine
months
ago
can't
happen
again,
that's
right
and
that's
what
this
does
we're
closing
a
loophole,
so
it
doesn't
happen
again.
R
B
B
AM
Well,
you
had
an
extra
week
in
there
if,
if
we
were
able,
for
instance,
the
crb
attorney
is
an
example
of
one
where
even
the
outside
Council
that
you
had
work
on
these
ordinances
advised
you
that
role
could
be
created
by
a
code
Amendment.
You
already
have
a
code
that
was
adopted
by
the
city
council
in
2021
that
spells
out
how
legal
advice
legal
counsel
is
provided
to
the
crb.
AM
So
if
you
want
to
change
the
way,
legal
counsel
is
provided
to
the
crb,
the
simplest
and
easiest
and
most
logical
way
of
doing
that,
frankly,
would
be
to
amend
that
code.
So
if
we
were
to
bring
you
an
ordinance,
you
would
hear
it
on
first
reading,
two
weeks
later,
second
reading
and
adoption,
the
extra
weeks
may
fall
in
there
because
of
the
sire
deadlines
and
the
schedule
for
your
hearings.
But
yes,
that's
something.
That's
a
perfect
example
of
something
that
could
be
done
very
quickly
and
while
I
have
the
podium.
AM
Two
historical
Corrections
or
additions
to
what
was
said:
councilman
Miranda
in
1990
mayor
Sandy,
Freeman,
actually
vetoed
to
propose
Charter
amendments
regarding
a
charter
review,
commission
and,
interestingly,
when
I
read
her
letter
and
read
the
mayor's
letter,
they
they
were
saying
some
of
the
same
objections
that
this
was
rushed.
It
wasn't
well
thought
out
and
I'm
happy
to
work
with
the
Council
on
a
solution
just
just
for
historical
references.
AM
You
mentioned
that
and
then
I
just
I
do
want
to
correct
one
thing
that
I
think
was
unfair
only
because
I
was
so
involved
with
this
the
delay,
the
the
timing
of
the
charter
review
Workshop
that
you
all
had
there
was
not
a
single
delay
caused
by
the
administration.
I
charted
out
every
single
motion
that
was
made
starting
in
February
of
2021
when
councilman
dingfeld.
AM
Her
first
motion
for
a
workshop
on
the
charter
Amendment
every
delay,
with
the
exception
of
one
when
a
facilitator's
husband
had
coveted,
was
either
Council
voting
to
reschedule
it
voting
to
reschedule
it
in
order
to
hire
a
facilitator
in
September,
you
actually
opened
a
charter
Workshop
and
then
closed
it
and
continued
it
to
November.
None
of
that
was
the
administration
trying
to
delay
this
so
I
I,
just
I
think
that's
unfair
and
I
wanted
to
correct
that,
and
now
I've
forgotten
what
the
question
was.
You
asked
me
I.
U
Ms
Jim
well
with
all
due
respect,
I
thought
we
were
here
today
to
vote
on
the
opposed
charge.
I
didn't
know
we
were
here
to
discuss
another
Avenue
I,
don't
think
any
accounts
members
here
to
discuss
that
I
haven't
I
thought
with
all
due
respect
that
we
were
here
to
get
this
done
to
either
override
or
not
with
a
vote
and
continue,
but
not
the
legal
counsel
to
ask
about
all
these
different
Avenues
away.
We've
already
discussed
those
things.
Let.
U
We've
already
already
asked
those
questions
and
got
run
around
questions
in
reference
to
ordinance
and
all
these
type
of
things.
That's
why
we're
here
today
so
I
would
ask
Mr
chairman
that
a
vote
be
put
on
the
floor
from
for
all
five
items
and
we
move
forward
and
let's
just
stop
the
biography
and
let's
move.
N
Councilman
Miranda,
thank
you.
I
have
no
no
The
Honorable
City
attorney
Redford's
1990
and
when
I
spoke,
I
clearly
said
that
from
74
to
79,
I
was
here
and
I
didn't
come
back
to
1995,
and
evidently
she
found
something
1990.
That
I
was
not
aware
of,
because
I
was
not
here,
so
everything
that
I
said
was
correct
and
everything
that
she
said
was
correct.
So
two
correction
doesn't
equal
a
minus.
N
However,
it's
again
if
what
we
want
to
do
is
make
some
changes
and
I
believe
one
of
the
changes
here,
I,
don't
recall
all
of
because
there
was
20,
something
that
was
presented.
I,
think
one
of
them
has
the
idea
that
we
are
going
to
ask
approval.
They've
got
to
be
approval
from
us.
Whoever
wants
to
hire
one
one
department
head,
I'm,
sure
I'm,
not
sure
about
it.
N
If
I
remember
that
that
way,
that
the
instead
of
working
for
the
mayor,
whoever
the
mayor
is
that
department
head
it
has
to
be
approved
by
the
council
first
before
the
mayor
or
something
like
that.
That
really
should
go
the
change
of
the
government.
When
you
start
changing
the
structure
of
a
government
you
have
to
get
approved
by
the
citizens
this
they
should
have
it
all
and
take
it
all
that
you
want
to
change
the
way
we
have
a
government.
N
R
Foreign
we've
tried
the
ordinance
and
resolution
thing
before
and
it
keeps
getting
shot
down
and
that's
why
the
voters
have
wanted
us
to
go
to
go
to
a
vote
because
here's
the
thing
we
we
just
we're:
gonna
we're
gonna
just
keep
going
round
and
round
and
round
and
people
are
going
to
change
their
votes,
and
so
here
I
mean
we
all
already
approved
these
unanimously
just
a
couple
weeks
ago.
So
I'm,
let's
just
as
as
councilman
good
said.
R
J
Sorry
I
I
have
to
ask-
and
this
will
sound
disrespectful,
but
considering
the
text
messages
we've
seen
and
the
and
the
behind
the
scenes
Shenanigans
I
have
to
ask
Mr
chair.
Did
the
mayor
or
her
staff
ask
you
to
throw
this
monkey
wrench
into
the
into
the
engine
today?
Or
did
they
coach
you
on
on
saying
it?
Because
these
are
the
kinds
of
shenanigans
they've
been
pulling
for
two
years,
which
obviously
Miss
Zellman
is
not
aware
of?
J
She
talked
about
the
legal
process,
but
she's
not
made
probably
not
aware
of
the
the
dirty
politics
that
have
gone
on
behind
the
scenes
and
while
I
still
have
the
floor,
the
chief
of
staff
will
confirm
that
I
told
the
mayor
directly.
I
said
I
said
you
know
if
your
staff
who
are
paid
by
the
city
is
supposed
to
be
represented
in
the
city
if
they
are
pushing
negative
messages
and
negative
stories
about
city
council
trying
to
stir
up
fights
between
City
Council
Members,
that's
despicable,
it's
not
only
unethical,
it's
illegal!
J
You
cannot
do
that.
Please
tell
them
to
stop
and
I
said.
If
my
legislative
aide
was
doing
the
same
thing,
I
would
fire
her,
but
this
mayor
allows
these
people
these
staff
members
being
paid
by
taxpayers
who
we
approved
to
attack
city
council,
attack
the
public.
It's
despicable.
We
need
to
end
this.
The
fighting
needs
to
end
the
public,
wants
peace,
and,
if
and
if
she's
put
up
another
city
council
member,
to
attack
us
again
today
and
throw
a
wrench
into
this,
it's
really
terrible.
B
N
N
N
N
I,
don't
relieve
the
way
I
was
raised,
that
I
do
things
for
myself,
I
do
and
when
I
vote.
It's
not
for
me
not
for
the
benefit
of
me,
but
what
I
think
is
the
best
for
the
public
and
if
we
want
to
make
changes,
we
should
make
changes
and
let
the
public
vote
on
all
of
them
by
a
charter
change.
Let
them
vote
what
kind
of
government
they
want
strong
form
of
government
or
not
the
problem.
Here.
N
B
No,
and
if
you
wish
to
make
a
public
records
request
for
my
cell
phone
or
my
computers,
I
beg
you
please
do
it.
Please
do
it
I'm
not
insulted
by
that
question.
That
is
a
fair
and
honest
question,
but
again,
if
you
would
like
to
make
Public
public
records
requests,
I'm,
not
afraid
of
it.
I've
been
subpoenaed
before
with
other
things
that
happened
earlier
in
this
Council,
so.
J
It
as
true
I
am
glad
that
you
said
that
and
I
hope
that
doesn't
happen
by
the
administration.
Yet.
B
I
I
First
of
all,
on
the
record,
the
mayor
is
traveling,
trying
to
bring
resources
to
Tampa
through
the
federal
government
in
Washington
D.C.
So
that's
where
she's
at
her
staff
is
here
representing
her,
including
myself,
the
City
attorney
for
her
role
with
the
with
the
mayor's
office
and
of
course,
we
have
executive
staff
members
here
to
answer
any
questions
for
any
of
the
itemized,
either
the
vetoes
or
the
process
surrounding
supporting
and
implementing
any
of
the
recommended
ordinances
to
go
forward
to
the
public.
I
So
as
far
as
a
request
from
the
administration,
there's
been
some
philosophical
talk
over
some
time
now
and
then
we
also
would
like
to
engage
counsel
before
each
vote
from
the
administration.
So
it's
just
a
request
to
council
to
be
able
to
have
a
global
discussion
about
how
the
vetoes
came
about.
As
far
as
the
process
goes
to
explain
the
position
of
the
administration
and
then
before
each
vote
on
each
of
the
recommended
ordinances
to
go
to
the
public,
we
would
like
to
just
give
some
feedback.
I
do
feel
that
you
know.
I
So
if
Council
will
indulge
me,
I'd
like
to
talk
for
a
few
minutes
about
and
I
understand,
we're
trying
to
hustle
to
a
vote,
but
the
difference
between
hustling
is
to
for
an
outcome.
The
difference
for
perseverance
is
the
process
and
I
think
we're
trying
to
persevere
around
a
process.
So
I
would
ask
that
the
administration
be
allowed
to
give
the
feedback
that
we've
only
had
very
limited
ability
to
do
during
this
process.
I
think
one
time
one
council
member
asked
one
staff
member
to
come
to
the
podium
and
give
feedback.
I
Otherwise
Council
made
us
understand
that
this
was
their
process
and
we
respected
that
Journey.
But
now
that
the
veto
package
is
in
I
feel
like
we
have
an
obligation
to
public
to
explain
why
that
was
done
and
the
mayor
is
the
epitome
of
democracy
with
her
staff.
She
listens
to
every
single
administrator
director
about
implementing
and
operating
their
specific
departments
before
she
makes
a
decision,
and
so
all
of
that
needs
to
be
conveyed
to
the
public.
In
my
humble
opinion,
thank
you.
That's
been
good
I.
U
Want
to
Chief
what
you
know
with
all
due
respect
you,
you
know
the
conversations
we
had
over
there
on
Friday,
be
it
Pleasant
or
not.
We
said
we
had
to
say
what
today
you're
representing
the
mayor,
because
you
said
the
mayor
is
out
of
town
trying
to
bring
money
to
the
city,
which
is
great,
but
the
problem
is
I,
have
I,
don't
as
Carlos
is
talking
about.
Why
are
we
bringing
City
staff
to
come
to
talk
to
council
about
Charter
amendments?
I,
don't
understand
that
process.
U
Now,
if
you
representing
the
mayor-
and
you
have
the
pinpoints
from
the
mayor,
but
I
have
an
issue
with
department,
heads
or
other
cities
that
are
coming
for
this
Council
about
these
Charter
amendments,
they
don't
have
a
fight
in
the
game
on
those
things
right.
The
mayor
vetoed
them
because,
however,
she
felt
she
needed
to
veto
him.
She
might
have
met
with
her
you
and
her
staff,
but
I
do
have
an
issue
with
other
departments
coming
to
this
Podium.
Speaking
on
this
issue,
I
feel
I,
I,
respect
the
process,
I
think
the
process.
U
B
I
With
all
due
respect
to
that
feedback
which
I
appreciate
staff
has
to
implement
everything
that
Council
adopts
and
the
importance
of
implementation
and
I
can
I
will
be
able
to
give
examples
in
each
one
of
those
Charter
recommendation
for
amendments
to
the
Charter
of
how
they
could
be
or
be
challenged
to
implement.
So
that's
where
staff
comes
in.
They
need
to
hear
that
in
real
time
and-
and
we
try
to
respect
listening
to
the
public
listening
to
council
to
make
sure
that
we
can
optimize
our
implementation
to
do
it
the
best
way
possible.
I
R
I'm
gonna
say
that
I,
don't
necessarily
think
it's
appropriate,
because
you've
had
four
other
chances
to
do
so
and
I
mean
you've
had
chances,
and
you
can
talk
to
us
anytime.
This
is
the
first
time
hearing
of
this
and
so
I'm,
just
not
okay
with
it.
You
could
have
come
with
it
to
us.
I
mean
you're
just
at
this
point,
we're
just
trying
to
drag
it
out
and
after
we
agree
or
disagree
to
put
these
on
the
ballot.
You
are
I.
R
R
She
didn't
at
all
tell
me
that
there
might
be
some
problems
with
putting
these
implementing
them
and
I
honestly,
don't
see
how
implementing
the
fact
that
this
city
council
has
term
limits
is
a
problem
that
that's
not
going
to
affect
you
all
right,
so
I'm,
I'm,
sorry
but
I
mean
I.
Don't
see
a
need
at
this
point,
we're
just
here
to
override
vetoes,
that's
right.
J
You
often
get
get
up
here
and
and
talk
to
us
individually
and
talk
about
how
you're
The
Peacemaker
you're
the
go
between
everything
and
your
consensus
building
experience.
Do
you
think
it
builds
trust
for
the
elected
body,
legislative
body
of
the
city
of
Tampa,
to
learn
about
the
mayor's
veto
through
a
Google
alert,
right
or
or
through
reading
the
op-ed
directly?
Do
you
think
that's
a
respectful
way
to
build
trust.
I
J
Time
clock,
but
why
wouldn't
you
send
the
memo
the
night
before
it's
it's
it's.
Obviously
this
is
what
I
said.
The
administration
looks
through
the
political
lens,
rather
than
looking
at
building
trust
or
or
looking
at
good
policy.
Somebody
in
the
mayor's
office,
I
can
guarantee
said
you
know
we
got
to
Blindside
them
because,
because
otherwise
they'll
have
a
chance
to
respond
with
an
op-ed
or
a
guest
editorial.
That's
what
happened!
J
This
is.
If
it
was,
it
was
about
building
trust
they
would.
Somebody
would
have
called
us.
The
mayor
would
have
called
us
directly
and
by
the
way,
when
I
met
with
Mary
and
you'll
get
you'll
verify.
This
I
said
I
think
you
should
meet
with
every
city
council
member
every
month
and
when
you
have,
when
you
disagree
about
something
you
should
not
only
call
the
P
the
votes,
you're
trying
to
get
call
the
people
who
disagree
with
you
and
say
you
know
what
you
and
I
are
going
to
disagree
with.
J
I
And
I'll
answer
that
one
first
and
I'll
go
back
to
the
other
one,
the
first
one,
the
mayor,
because
I
was
there
agreed
with
you
that
it
is
not
appropriate
to
do
that
and
she
has
held
people
accountable.
For
that.
That's
the
first
answer.
The
second
answer
to
the
first
question
was
that
if
you
look
at
the
Continuum
two
weeks
ago,
Council
voted
to
put
these
where
they
are
now
the
mayor
respected
that
process.
I
We
have
always
encouraged
our
staff
to
start
with.
Help
me
understand.
The
mayor
did
that
by
inviting
everybody
into
her
office,
which,
from
my
experience
in
three
and
a
half
years,
every
invitation
has
come
from
the
mayor's
office
to
meet
with
anybody
for
any
reason,
so
they
all
germinated
from
that.
I
But
her
goal
was
to
help
her
understand
behind
each
one
of
your
intentions
on
a
huge
responsibility
to
change
the
city
Charter,
to
make
sure
that
she
understand
before
she
put
any
decision
together
that
she
heard
from
each
one
of
you
individually,
I
sat
in
every
one
of
those
meetings
and
I
never
heard
her
once
try
and
change
somebody's
opinion,
but
only
understand
where
this
is
coming
from,
and
that
was
really
the
goal
of
it.
Now
again,
it's
an
opportunity
to
share
ideas,
Express
differences
challenge,
each
other.
I
That's
all
good
work
and
that's
going
to
really
be
part
of
I
can
get
to
do
that
presentation.
Part
of
this
is
what
we
should
be
doing
is
celebrating
how
much
great
we
did
over
last
three
and
a
half
years
when
three
statistically
valid
surveys
have
been
done
in
this
city
that
says
Council
and
the
mayor
and
the
public
have
a
90
percent
approval
rating
three
years
in
a
row
compared
to
the
national
average.
That's
an
amazing
job!
That's
an
amazing
job!
Council
should
be
happy
about
that.
I
The
administration
should
be
happy
about
that,
and
the
public
should
be
happy
about
that.
We've
got
to
celebrate
the
work
that
we've
done
together
and
we
have
taken
many
things
back
from
Council
and
brought
them
back
at
the
request
of
council
to
refine
and
improve
the
outcomes,
and
the
last
thing
I'll
say
at
this
moment
is
that
there
are
so
many
ways
to
make
change.
I
You
know:
I've
raised
four
children,
I've
coached,
hundreds
of
kids
in
Youth
Sports,
just
like
councilman
Goods,
has
you
change
Behavior
at
the
lowest
denominator
possible
until
that
doesn't
work,
and
there
is
a
complete
list
of
things
that
can
be
done
on
these
five
amendments
that
don't
require
a
charter
change,
and
that
is
the
difference.
That's
the
difference
when
you
change
things
iteratively,
as
opposed
to
going
to
the
highest
level.
J
So
this
obviously,
is
the
latest.
The
latest
tactic
the
administration
is
using
and
and
despite
what
Ms
Zellman
said,
there
were
a
lot
of
political
tactics
that
were
used
against
us.
Remember
one
day
there
were
20
police
officers
sitting
in
the
audience
that
were
paid
by
taxpayers
for
four
or
five
hours
to
intimidate
us
and
and
the
administration.
Remember
the
time
the
administration
brought
people
from
East
Tampa
to
to
say
they
were
in
favor
of
renting
while
black
and
then
gave
them
rides
back
and
forth.
J
I
mean
these
are
dirty
tactics
that
have
been
used:
I
I.
We
should
not
waste
the
time
of
members
of
the
public
and
not
waste
our
time
today.
The
new
excuse
today
is
oh
well,
you
didn't
ask
enough
staff
members
to
come
up
and
give
their
opinion,
but
I
will
say
in
response.
Every
week
the
Administration
has
a
chance
to
do
an
administrative
update,
and
at
least
three
or
four
weeks
in
the
last
few
months
the
Administration
has
done
no
update,
so
the
administration
had
opinion
they
could
have
called
us.
J
AM
I
One
final
thought
and
then
I'll
return
it
back
to
the
chairman
and
council
is
that
you
learn
as
you
go.
Everything
is
iterative,
so
when
the
mayor
got
your
feedback
is
when
she
put
the
veto
package
together
to
bring
it
to
council.
That
was
an
iterative
process
of
listening
to
the
entire
Journey
plus
listening
to
each
of
you
and
then,
of
course,
the
public
as
well
to
make
that
decision
to
veto
each
one
of
these.
Now
each
one
of
them
has
a
prescriptive
reason
towards
that
which
I'm
I'm,
hoping
that
we
can
come
up.
I
B
H
H
B
H
It
was
my
understanding
that
what
council
was
going
to
do
is
go
and
take
each
ordinance
individually
and
allow
for
presentation
and
allow
for
the
public
to
speak
as
part
of
what
the
charter
refers
to
as
reconsideration.
That
was
the
way
it
was
meant
to
be
now
by
calling
the
question,
the
question
is:
what
is
on
the
floor?
There.
B
B
AN
AN
Why
don't
we
call
the
question
two
minutes
for
him
and
then
we
vote
and
that's
it
and
no
more
Council
discussion
just
to
be
reasonable
and
just
go
forward
and
vote
I've
already
stated
by
the
way
how
I'm
going
to
vote
and
and
but
this
is
about
being
reasonable.
Let's
do
that.
That's
that's
what
I
was
going
to
motion
for.
So
it's
about
90,
of
what
councilman
Carlson
said
with
a
little
something
extra.
Thank
you.
Councilman.
R
J
R
H
B
R
Go
ahead,
this
is
an
and
I
I'm
saying
we're
we're
moving
the
ordinance,
correct,
Mr,
Shelby
I'm
about
to
read
so
I'm
we're
overriding
the
mayor's
veto
in
an
ordinance
relating
to
the
government
of
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida,
submitting
to
the
electors
of
the
city,
a
proposed
amendment
to
the
revised
Charter
of
the
city
of
Tampa
of
1975,
as
amended
to
amend
section
9.01,
to
clarify
that
standing
boards
shall
be
created
by
city
council
by
ordinance
without
requiring
the
mayor's
recommendation
providing
an
effective
date.
C
Yes,
so
I'm
going
to
support
overriding
this,
because
in
2015
the
issue
came
up
with
the
creation
of
the
CRV
and
who
had
the
authority
to
create
boards
and
back
then
it
was
a
discussion
between
the
administration
and
the
Council
of
who
had
the
authority.
I
always
believe
since
2015
that
city
council
had
the
authority
to
create
boards,
and
this
came
into
what
we
voted
on.
Creating
the
CRV
I
think
this
is
a
no-brainer
I,
see
the
mayor's
rebuttal
and
some
suggestions
that
she
had
against
this.
C
Regarding
financial
and
logistical
impact
on
the
city,
but
as
a
city
council,
we
would
vote
in
the
budget
to
allocate
funds
and
we
would
vote
on
that
in
order
to
support
those
boards
or
not
support
those
boards.
So
it
is
a
process
in
which
we
would
be
acting
responsibly
and
again,
I
believe
what
I
believed
in
2015
when
we
created
the
board
and
I
support
that
today.
So
that
is
my
second
and
my
explanation
as
to
why
councilman.
B
N
Let
me
just
say
this
that
it
is
incumbent
of
us
to
follow
the
process
in
2015.
The
process
was
what
we
had
a
board
of
people
from
the
community
who
we
put
in
between
the
administration
and
this
legislative
body
of
the
city
council.
That
board
met
for
many
many
months.
That
board
spent
many
many
meetings
to
bring
to
the
council
members
at
that
time.
What
their
recommendations
were
to
change
the
charter
that
was
passed
by
the
city
council
unanimously.
N
N
J
Yeah
I've
said
this
in
every
discussion
we
have
about
it,
but
the
process
since
1974
when
the
charter
was
made,
was
that
the
city
council
can
vote
to
put
and
something
on
the
ballot
to
allow
the
public
to
vote
on
it.
The
new
process
that
was
put
in
place
in
2015
was
not
written
about
in
the
charter.
It
was
something
that
the
city
council,
which
three
members
are
here,
put
together.
Charter
review.
Commission
four
of
us
were
on
their
plus
two
of
the
attorneys
in
the
room
were
on
that
Charter
review.
Commission.
J
The
the
2000,
the
the
charter
and
the
charter
review
commission
added
a
a
proposal
to
the
public
to
vote
to
add
the
charter
review
commission
and
it
was
added
and
so
we're
following
the
rich
original
process,
not
the
not
the
new
process,
but
it's
not
that
the
process
wasn't
followed.
It's
just
a
different
process:
Mr.
AM
Accusing
two
issues
the
issue
in
2015
was
the
creation
of
the
citizens
review
board
for
the
police,
and
it
wasn't
the
question
of
whether
the
mayor
versus
the
council
could
create
a
board.
It
was
whether
the
council
had
the
authority
to
create
a
board
that
would
arguably
regulate
the
police
department,
which
the
then
mayor
argued
was
clearly
within
his
purview.
So
the
it
was
the
subject
matter
of
the
board.
I
Right,
thank
you.
I
know
the
public
saw
the
news,
but
they
may
have
not
read
the
memo
from
the
mayor
in
detail,
so
this
is
lifted
from
the
memo,
so
I
just
highlighted
for
the
sake
of
time,
because
I
knew
Council
would
be
interested
in
in
the
agenda
timing
today,
but
her
following
objections:
significant
significant
and
financial
logistical
impact,
again,
staff
wanted
to
help
Council
and
the
public
understand
that
these
things
cost
time
money
resources.
I
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
included
in
supporting
the
decision,
which
is
why
the
balance
of
power
existed
from
the
beginning.
If
the
mayor
creates
a
board,
Council
has
to
prove
if
Council
creates
a
board
the
mayor
approves.
So
we
could
weigh
in
on
supporting
that
board.
The
citizens
budget
advisory
council
is
a
good
example
on
how
challenging
it
is
to
make
sure
all
that's
done,
not
to
mention.
I
B
E
You
don't
want
them
to
tell
you
you
have
herpes
or
AIDS
or
something
devastating
and
that's
what
all
y'all
are
doing.
The
mayor's
staff
and
the
city
council
you're
having
a
lot
of
delays
to
do
a
straight
up
and
down
vote,
and
that's
why
you're
once
again,
like
expending
taxpayers
time
in
your
time
unnecessarily.
What
happened
here
is
the
mayor
trying
for
a
power
grab
and
you
guys
just
have
to
block
it
plain
and
simple.
All
the
discussion
probably
wasn't
necessary.
G
Good
morning
my
name
is
Stephanie.
Corner
I
think
that
city
council
should
be
able
to
create
its
own
committees.
F
G
Have
a
mayoral,
candidate
and
I
think
it
works
just
fine,
so
I
don't
really
understand
why
we
have
to
have
permission
to
create
a
committee.
We
have
staff
who
creates
committees.
So
why
can't
city
council
do
it
without
somebody
holding
their
hand?
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
in
the
this
in
the
quashed
period,
that
city
council
did
this
for
two
years
this
morning
the
mayor
released
this
her
vetoes
24
hours
ago
to
the
public.
That's
why
this
room
is
not
packed
out.
G
AO
Rectify
for
11
1408,
East
Tana,
yes,
I'm
running
for
one
of
these
seats
up
there
I've
been
listening
to
this
and
I.
Think
I'm,
not
an
attorney
but
I've
been
trying
to
read
the
charter,
because
if
I
want
to
run
for
something
I
need
to
know
what
the
requirements
are,
it
seems
like
the
changes
that
are
being
proposed
are
relatively
simple:
I
see
a
I
hear
a
lot
of
drama
over
strong,
strong
mayor
and
you're
weakening
it
I'm.
Looking
at
this
and
I'm
saying
these
are
minor.
AO
Tweaks
I
do
think
that
if
we
truly
actually
believe
in
democracy,
we're
going
to
let
the
people
vote
on
what
their
government
structure
is
like
I,
don't
think
anything.
That's
been
proposed
that
you
guys
voted
by
veto.
Proof
majorities,
because
I've
been
watching
I,
don't
think
any
of
them
are
unreasonable
and
I
thought
you
were
only
going
to
have
one
minute
for
everything.
So
that's
why
I
did
this.
AK
In
30
seconds,
but
based
on
what
I'm
hearing
and
know
how
legalities
go,
I
respectfully
request
that,
if
any
information
that
the
city
was
going
to
present,
that
would
be
received
and
filed
in
the
record
whether
he
presents
it
or
not,
so
that
I
can
have
a
chance
to
look
at
what
he
was
going
to
present.
So,
if
he's
got
some
documents
and
I'm
gonna
say
this
five
times
that
each
of
those
doctors
would
be
put
in
a
record
because
I'm
proud
to
be
the
one
to
do
anything,
legal
or
otherwise.
AK
C
Move
to
receive
any
documents
that
would
be
presented
for
all
five
of
these
ordinances
in
question.
We.
A
B
AN
One
minute,
just
very
quick
again,
like
the
former
the
gentleman
said
to
me.
This
is
something
that's
very
reasonable
and
Mr
Shelby
quick
question
when
the
council
does
create
a
board
under
this,
the
mayor
then
has
the
chance
to
veto
it.
Correct.
H
If
it
is
created,
if
it
is
created
by
ordinance,
obviously
per
the
charter,
just
as
the
process
you're
going
through
now,
it
would
have
to
be
presented
to
the
mayor
for
either
her
signature
or
her
rejection
in
returning
it
veto.
So
the
answer
to
that
question
is
when
you
create
an
ordinance,
just
as
you
did
with
the
crb,
it
was
created
and
sent
to
the
mayor
for
the
mayor's
signature.
T
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
F
AK
AO
H
B
You
want
said
no,
the
consensus
of
council
is
that
we
will
get
through
these
Charter
amendments
of
overriding
the
mayor
or
not
before
we
go
to
lunch.
So
there's
not
going
to
be
a
hard
stop
if
it
takes
after
12
30
or
until
one
o'clock.
That's
fine.
R
R
A
proposed
amendment
to
the
revised
Charter
of
the
city
of
Tampa
of
1975,
as
amended
to
clarify
that
the
mayor's
nominations
for
heads
of
departments
and
other
city
employees,
as
set
out
in
section
6.03,
must
be
approved
by
four
votes
of
the
city
council
and
to
provide
for
interim
appointments
of
existing
city
employees
by
the
mayor
for
a
maximum
of
180
days.
Providing
an
effective
date.
A
C
Okay
and
looking
at
this
one
regarding
the
appointments,
I
looked
at
two
recent
events:
first,
the
police
chief
situation,
which
I
think
spurred
this
entire
discussion
and
second,
when
we
appointed
or
selected
a
CRA
director
that
did
not
take
the
job.
Those
were
both
very
public.
The
CRA
director
was
a
public
discussion
where
the
public
came
to
meet
the
people
and
everything,
and
it
was
made
known
to
his
existing
or
previous
employer
that
that
person
had
intentions
to
leave.
C
That
person
was
selected
but
did
not
take
the
job.
So
that
was
that
it
was
a
very
public
process.
The
person
did
not
take
the
job,
I,
don't
know
what
his
situation
is.
Now
that's
one
thing.
The
second
thing
is
and
what
happened?
What
in
December,
we
approved
a
police
chief
that
was
appointed
by
the
mayor
without
choice
of
picking
one
person
or
another?
The
mayor
chose
the
person
we
vote,
that
person
up
or
down
and
that
mayor.
C
If
we
had
voted
that
person
down
sorry
they
would,
they
would
have
been
in
an
interim
position
and
stayed
there.
Whatever.
My
thing
is
here
and
I'll
wrap
it
up
quickly
and
I.
Apologize,
the
mayor
has
the
responsibility
to
supervised,
manage
and
the
power
to
remove
or
terminate
department,
heads
and
Senior
Administration
administrators
in
the
situation
with
the
police
chief
I
think
the
mayor
acted
swiftly,
asked
for
the
letter
of
resignation
and
that
person
was
terminated
so
because
of
that
I
think
the
as
it
is
as
it
is
now
I
think
it
works.
R
That
is
not
it's
not
saying
it's
that
basically,
the
interim
department
head
has
to
be
a
city
employee,
that's
what
it's
saying
so
that
was
the
problem
with
the
with
the
police
chief
vote
and
I
was
not
on
this
Council.
During
that
time,
I
was
a
citizen
who
was
upset
about
that
vote
because
I
didn't
feel
like
we
got
as
a
citizen.
We
got
any
real
input
there.
R
So
what
happened
was
from
my
understanding
the
mayor
appointed
someone
from
not
in
the
city
as
an
interim
director
and
then
just
said,
oh
by
the
way,
we're
just
going
to
start
calling
her
the
police
chief,
we're
not
going
to
use
the
interim
title
which
we're
using
right
now
for
interim
Chief,
bear
Khan
and
we're
using
that
title
interim
and
that
she
just
started
that
very
day
without
approval
from
Council,
but
that's
the
kind
of
thing
that
if
we
decided
no,
we
didn't
want
her.
R
N
What
that
person
does
somewhere
else,
not
disregarding
the
position
that
he
or
she
has
in
the
city.
In
this
case,
the
mayor
is
not
the
one
that
showed
the
badge
the
mayor's,
not
the
one
that
spoke
out.
It
was
the
appointee
that
spoke
that
and
that
point
Lee
was
swiftly
removed,
so
the
currency
of
life
is
it's
that
the
mayor
wasn't
the
one
that
was
charged.
It
was
the
appointee
that
was
charged
and
the
appointee
is
no
longer
here.
That's
all.
J
Yeah
and
for
all
of
these
and
all
the
ones
we
talked
about
before
the
idea
is
taking
away
power
from
the
strong
mayor.
Former
government
came
up
and
that's
not
at
all
true.
In
this
case,
it
always
has
been
true
that
the
mayor
nominate
somebody
and
city
council
approves.
J
We
clarified
a
little
bit
in
the
last
Charter
changes
in
the
use
of
the
word
interim,
but
it's
always
been
true
that
the
mayor
cannot
appoint
some
department
head
without
city
council
approval,
we're
not
changing
that
we're
not
adding
that
now.
That's
already
been
true
for
a
long
time.
If,
if
city
council
doesn't
like
the
the
nominee,
we
get,
we've
always
been
able
to
vote.
No
all
this
does.
Is
it
it
click.
It
prevents
the
problem
that
some
of
the
staff
mentioned.
J
What
happens
if
a
mayor
brings
in
somebody
for
outside
saying
winking
a
nod
you're
going
to
get
the
job?
Don't
worry,
I'm
going
to
get
you
and
that
person's
given
out
their
job
in
another
place
they
partly
relocated
their
family
and
then
they've
come
before
city,
council
and
city
council
says
no
all
that
does.
Is
that
keeps
it.
It
really
protects
the
applicant
more
than
anything,
it
doesn't
take
power
away
from
the
mayor,
because
otherwise
it's
a
strong
arm
tactic
like
we
experienced
in
December
we
need
to.
I
Again,
good
afternoon,
John,
better
Chief
of
Staff,
again
I'm
lifting
from
the
language
of
the
mayor's
memo
in
her
stead.
Right
now,
you
know
it
is
about
the
process.
This
is
changing
the
form
of
government
by
Council,
essentially
appointing
a
department
head
or
administrator
to
report,
then
to
the
mayor
after
the
fact
it
is,
it
is
different
than
what
has
been
going
on.
I
This
is
one
of
those
things
that
we
had
talked
about
over
the
time
when
I
got
here
about
improving
the
process
if
there
is
a
misinterpretation
of
the
current
Charter
by
doing
a
resolution,
so
we
feel
like
a
resolution
of
how
we
engage
this
process
until
such
time
we
need
to
do
it
further
in
a
process
would
be
beneficial.
This
is
one
of
the
biggest
things
that
changes
the
form
of
government
for
the
city.
AM
The
charter
review
commission
discussed
at
length
recommended
the
voters
approved,
adding
language
to
6.03,
saying
that
if
the
mayor
submitted
a
name
was
voted
down,
she
would
have
the
ability
to
resubmit
that
name
now
you're
taking
that
away.
So
that's
changing
something
that
was
just
changed.
I
think
that
it's
important
to
make
that
clear
and
I
also
can't
agree
that
changing
appointment
and
Confirmation
to
nominee
and
appointing
is
no
change.
If
it
is,
why
do
it?
C
AM
It
says
in
the
event
of
disapproval
by
the
city
council
of
any
set
appointments.
The
mayor
within
90
days
thereafter
shall
submit
or
resubmit
to
the
city
council
the
name
of
the
appointee,
so
in
theory
the
mayor
could
resubmit
over
and
over
again.
That
clearly
was
not
the
intent
when
we
discussed
this
at
the
charter
review.
The
point
was
that
sometimes
the
mayor,
for
instance,
when
a
new
mayor
comes
into
office,
has
to
act
quickly
brings
names
to
council.
They
may
not
have
really
had
an
opportunity
to
get
to
know
more
about
the
person.
AM
Historically,
the
mayor
didn't
Lobby
the
Council
on
Advance
on
appointments.
That
was
something
we
discussed
at
Charter
review.
So
the
point
is
we
again:
we
discussed
this
at
the
charter
review
commission
that
there
are
going
to
be
occasions
where
someone
is
not
confirmed
by
the
council,
and
then
the
mayor
may
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to
give
the
council
members
more
time
to
learn
more
about
that
person
to
interview
that
person
whatever,
and
this
would
give
the
mayor
the
ability
to
do
that.
U
A
U
We
had
difficulties,
we
start
to
start
to
do
that,
a
little
bit
then
we
dropped
off.
Then
we
start
to
do
it
again.
So
I
appreciate
those
efforts,
but
this
is
clear
and
I
don't
understand
why
we
we're
having
discussion
on
this
one
here
we
all
set
through
the
process
of
these
our
citizens,
and
they
were
angry
about
this
and
it
is
a
nomination.
The
mayor
is
nominating
someone,
and
this
spot
here
gives
the
confirmation,
which
is
an
appointment
and
from
that
point
the
American
do
whatever
he
or
she
wants
to
do
with
that
appointee.
U
I
fire
whatever
to
do
with
that,
but
I
gotta,
look
at
the
before
process
and
to
say
a
body.
This
body
has
a
nominee
come
before
us
and
we
can't
get
a
vote
on
it.
That's
astronaut,
I
just
think
that
it's
the
intent
is
perfect.
J
Yes,
it
when
the
sorry
I,
don't
remember
exactly
when
it
was
somebody
said
December,
but
when
we,
when
city
council
voted
to
confirm
whatever
word,
you
want
to
use
the
police
chief,
the
last
police
chief,
because.
J
Okay,
February
sorry,
my
memory
is
not
that
great
on
dates,
but
anyway,
on
in
that
vote,
I
think
it
was
four
to
two.
But
let's
say
it
was
the
other
way
around
and
four
voted
at
that
time
had
four
voted
against
whatever
you
want
to
call
the
person,
the
nominee
whatever
what
would
have
happened
by
the
charter
as
it
was
then.
J
J
J
It's
it
so
we're
not
changing
the
the
basic
nature
of
it.
I
mean
it's
a
strong
mayor
for,
but
I'm
just
talking
about
that
on
this
point,
but
what's
happened,
is
it's
been
interpreted
in
the
other
way,
so
the
next
thing
was
one
of
the
things
that
the
public
really
was
upset
about
is
when,
when
the
when
the
police
chief
was
nominated,
whatever
you
want
to
call
the
mayor
said.
This
is
my
my
choice,
but
it
had
not
come
be
the
voted
not
come
before
city
council.
J
AM
J
Don't
you
think
for
that,
maybe
for
legal
purposes
it
had
to
be
called
something
else,
but
don't
you
think
it
would
have
been
more
accurate
and
respectful
to
call
the
person
interim
whatever
just
like
I
think
someone
said,
Chief
Burke
hall
now
is
called
interim,
isn't
that
the
fire
chief
was
called
interim
in
the
meantime,
but
for
some
reason
that
particular
one
didn't
use
the
word
interim
and
that's
why
the
public
felt
strong-armed
in
it
I
mean
by
the
old
Charter.
J
Don't
that
person
was
not
permanent,
because
city
council
had
not
approved
the
person
right,
it
still
was
an
interim
position
correct
and
so
we're
not
changing
that
those
points.
City
council
has
always
had
the
power
to
reject
or
approve
and
and
the
title
is
not
permanent
until
the
city
council
until.
AM
It
just
as
you're
saying
words
matter.
You
know
whether
you
call
them
interim
acting
or
the
police
words
matter,
whether
you
say
the
mayor
gets
to
nominate
or
appoint
or
city
council
gets
to
confirm
or
appoint
you're
taking
the
appointment
away
from
her
by
making
this
change
and
I.
You
know-
and
this
goes
to
the
question
that
that
councilman
Cedar
asked
me
earlier.
If
what
I
heard
the
mayor
say
was
that
she
wants
to
work
with
the
council
to
find
solutions
to
these
issues,
something
like
a
process
you
could.
AM
J
So
let
me
before
my
time
runs
out
sorry
to
cut
you
off.
I
know
the
chair
is
going
to
cut
my
time
here
in
a
second
I
want
to
ask
a
final
question
of
whatever
we
call
it.
Let's
say
that
you
you,
let's
say
that
this
Administration
believes
that
the
word
appoint
means
that
somehow
city
council
has
some
power
over
this
person.
J
Isn't
it
true
that,
even
if
this
passes
that
that
person
will
continue
to
report
to
the
mayor
and
that
the
mayor
will
will
do
the
the
annual
survey
city
council
will
have
nothing
to
do
with
it,
and
and
even
with
the
situation
with
the
last
police
chief?
Could
we
have?
Could
city
council
have
fired
that
person?
No,
and-
and
even
with
these
changes,
can
city
council
with
these
when
the?
J
But
still
they
report
to
the
mayor,
he
even
whatever
we
call
it,
we
can
call
it
pointy
and
so
really
it
is.
It
is
not
that
this
person,
somehow
by
changing
one
word,
now
reports
the
city
council.
You
know
one
of
the
one
of
the
proposals
I
had
was
to
to
give
us
the
right
to
fire.
The
City
attorney
and
the
mayor
didn't
like
that.
One,
but
anyway,
I
mean
you
ultimately
report
to
the
mayor.
We
can't
we
have
no
control
over
any
of
these
positions
other
than
to
say
yes
or
no.
AM
Well,
you
have
the
city:
clerk
cannot
be
fired
without
a
vote
of
city,
council
and
I.
Believe
the
city
council
attorney
would
not
be
able
to
be
fired
without
obviously
the
vote
of
city
council,
so
you
do
have
some
say,
but
yeah.
These
are.
The
department
has
reported
to
the
mayor
and
she's
the
one
who
hires
and
fires.
J
AM
AM
G
Well,
Stephanie
Poyner
I'd
like
to
understand
why
we
keep
trying
to
backstep
and
use
the
word
ordinance
when
we've
gotten
this
far
in
in
the
conversation,
it's
like:
okay,
let's
throw
this
car
away
and
go
back
and
get
a
new
one.
We're
gonna
walk
back
there,
but
we're
gonna
go
get
a
new
one,
I,
just
I
I,
it's
dumbfounding
to
me
to
keep
having
this
conversation
over
and
over
again-
and
you
know
what
bottom
line
is
the
CRA
hiring
process
looked
good.
G
B
B
R
Do
it
I
move
to
override
The
veto
of
the
mayor
for
an
ordinance
relating
to
the
government
of
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida,
submitting
to
the
electors
of
the
city,
a
proposed
amendment
to
the
revised
Charter
of
the
city
of
Tampa
of
1975,
as
amended
to
amend
section
2.02
to
revising
term
limits
of
city
council
members
to
limit
the
ability
of
members
of
city
council
to
serve
more
than
a
total
of
four
consecutive
full
terms
effective
with
the
city
of
Tampa
election
in
2027,
providing
an
effective
date?
Second,.
AN
C
Am
going
to
support
this
because
I
disagree
with
the
point
here
that
there's
a
possibility
of
a
seven
new
council
members
with
a
new
mayor
whatever
without
staggered
terms
and
no
institutional
knowledge
I,
disagree
with
that,
because
in
2011
it
was
a
majority
new
city,
council
members
and
a
new
mayor,
but
things
worked
out
and
they
had
their
knowledge
from
whatever
backgrounds
and
I
didn't
see,
chaos
or
anything
in
an
issue
there.
So
I'm
going
to
be
supporting
this.
Thank
you.
J
Yeah,
if
the
administration
had
concerns
about
the
Staggering
of
of
seats
than
they
could
have
talked
about
that
months
ago,
that
this
will
happen
because
people
come
and
go
anyway.
It
will
happen
naturally,
but
but
I
just
want
everybody
to
know
this
one.
Despite
what
the
mayor
did
has
said
that
this
user,
these
usurp
the
power
of
the
of
the
mayor's
office,
this
this
one
takes
away
the
power
of
the
city
council,
we're
limiting
ourselves,
we're
saying
that
we
cannot
run
again.
J
So
that
means
when,
when
Charlie
Miranda
is
almost
100,
he
can't
run
again
so,
but
the
rest
of
us
are
going
to
get
be
done
a
lot
earlier.
We're
limiting
ourselves
here
and
so
I
want
I.
Just
want
the
record
to
be
clear
that
that
we're
in
favor
of
limiting
ourselves
also
we're
just
trying
to
put
good
government
forward.
Thank
you.
B
It
is
of
my
opinion,
I've
heard
so
many
times
today.
Let's
leave
it
up
to
the
voters.
Mm-Hmm
I
have
no
intention,
hopefully,
when
I'm
re-elected,
to
run
after
that.
If
we're
going
to
leave
it
up
to
the
voters
for
these
Charter's
Amendment,
we
should
also
leave
it
up
to
the
voters
on
who
they
want
to
elect.
N
The
same
thing
it'll
be
a
hundred,
but
I
do
have
longevity.
My
grandmother
died
in
96
my
uncle
passed
away
about
eight
months
ago
at
94.
My
other
aunt
died
at
97
about
six
months
ago.
So
you
know
it's
funny.
You
you
take
away
the
same
things
you're
giving
away
by
by
this
item
here,
but
that's
all
right.
Thank
you.
Very
much
have
a
nice
day.
J
B
I
Again,
thank
you.
Council
John,
Bennett
Chief
of
Staff,
again
lifting
from
the
mayor's
veto.
Memo
I
think
the
Staggering
of
terms
comports
to
the
concern
of
the
process
not
being
elongated.
The
Benchmark
process
was
the
CRC.
Obviously
it's
highlighted
down
below
as
voted
against
this
proposal
in
2017..
It's
not
that
we
can't
change
or
find
new
ways
to
get
through
things,
but
I
think
the
concern
from
the
administration
is
The,
Coincidence
of
turnover
and
institutional
knowledge
for
the
city
moving
forward.
Yes,
it
can
happen,
but
usually
with
incumbents.
It
tends
to
happen
less
frequently.
I
B
J
Just
to
add
one
more
thing,
one
of
the
allegations
Administration
has
thrown
is
that
we're
we're
bringing
back
issues
that
were
reviewed
by
the
the
charter
review
commission.
This
one
in
part
was
and
I
was
one
of
the
proposers
of
it
I'm,
not
the
one
that
originally
brought
this
concept
up.
I
think
I
amended
it
at
some
point,
but
the
others
were
not
proposed
and
rejected
this
one
though
when
I
had
talked
about
it.
J
R
Okay,
I
make
a
motion
to
override
The
veto
of
an
ordinance
relating
to
the
government
of
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida,
submitting
to
the
electors
of
the
city,
a
proposed
amendment
to
the
revised
Charter
of
the
city
of
Tampa
of
1975,
as
amended
to
amend
section
5.01,
to
provide
for
the
citizen
review
board
to
select
a
legal
counsel
who
is
not
a
city
employee,
to
advise
a
citizen
review
board
with
funding
provided
by
the
city
providing
an
effective
date.
R
AN
A
AN
Had
a
question
for
Mr
Shelby
I
wanted
to
make
sure
about
this,
because
this
is
this
is
relevant,
which
is
once
if,
if
this
is
passed
into,
voters
ultimately
support
this.
Isn't
it
true
that
we
need
an
ordinance
to
implement
this,
and
isn't
it
true
that,
within
that
ordinance,
we
could
deal
with
issues
such
as
the
budget
and
the
issues
not
directly
defined
into
Charter
language?
Is
that
true.
H
Well,
with
regard
to
the
budget,
I
think
you'd
have
to
be
more
specific.
Certainly
you
have
the
budgetary
ability
whenever
the
the
budget
is
presented
to
you,
councilman
Vieira.
Presently,
your
ordinance
18-8,
subsection
H6
presently
provides
for
an
assistant,
City
attorney,
serving
as
the
legal
advisor
to
the
crb
and
shall
not
be
an
assistant,
City
attorney,
who
advises
the
department
provided.
However,
there
exists
a
conflict
of
interest
as
defined
by
the
state
or
the
city's
ethics
law
or
the
Florida
bar
rules,
as
determined
by
the
City
attorney.
H
The
City
attorney
May
engage
outside
counsel
for
the
provision
of
legal
advice
to
the
crb
on
such
matters,
for
which
such
conflict
exists
and
I
believe
there
is
a
a
companion,
I
suspect
to
call
it
that
an
executive
order,
but
with
regard
to
your
specific
question,
if
this
does
get
presented
to
the
voters
and
the
voters
do
pass
that
the
charter
provision
will
then
make
this
ordinance
inconsistent
with
the
charter,
and
this
ordinance
would
have
to
be
amended
in
order
to
be
consistent.
AN
If
I'm
a
Mr
chair,
so
no
I
asked
that
question,
because
I
think
for
many
people
in
the
public,
the
crb
is
something
that's
very
important.
We
want
to
make
sure
there's
not
unintended
consequences
to
me
for
purposes
of
the
public.
All
this
does
is
right.
Now
there
is
a
City
attorney
who
serves
as
the
attorney
for
the
board,
and
this
merely
has
a
a
an
attorney
who
is
not
directly
a
city
employee.
Nothing,
radical
is
changing
from
this
at
all.
AN
The
main
issue
that
I
think
that
I
want
to
address
is
to
make
sure
that
we
still
have
to
do
an
ordinance
once
it
passes
to
implement
it
so
that
it
just
isn't
self-executing
and
that,
if
there's
any
unintended
consequences
that
arise
not
from
the
direct
language
of
the
of
the
of
the
charter
Amendment,
the
proposed
Charter
Amendment,
but
that
can
be
addressed
responsibly.
That
was
why
I
asked
that
and
I.
Thank
you
for
your
answer
and.
C
But
for
the
code
changes
that
we
as
city
council
voted
for
in
2021,
an
assistant
City
attorney,
who
does
not
represent
the
tpd,
will
serve
as
the
crb's
legal
advisor,
which
we
knew
that
from
2021,
because
we
voted
for
it
and
also
in
2021.
It
allows
already
for
the
hiring
of
an
outside
attorney.
In
the
case
of
a
conflict
says,
the
crb
has
never
asked
to
invoke
that
code.
Provision
I,
don't
know
until
recently.
If
that
has
been
a
vote
and
I
look
at
it
as
wants
and
needs.
Is
this
absolutely
necessary?
C
The
board
voted
that
they
did
not
want
it
and
now
because
of
what
we
voted
for.
Okay
I've,
been
here
through
the
whole
crb
process
since
2015
in
2021.
It
already
allows
them
to
hire
an
outside
attorney
in
the
case
of
a
conflict.
This
is
what
it's
saying
here
so
is
this
necessary
is
my
question
and
what
will
it
cost
regardless?
C
U
U
C
AM
If
I
may
just
clarify,
there
were
two
issues
that
they
were
talking
about.
One
was
giving
the
crb
subpoena
power
and
one
was
the
outside
attorney.
They
voted
six
to
two
that
they
did
not
want
the
outside
attorney
on
The
subpoena
power.
They
came
to
council
and
said
we
vote
for
you
to
take
that
to
the
voters
that
was,
that
was
the
distinction.
B
R
I
I
just
want
to
ask
you:
I
mean
this.
This
outside
attorney
is
just
going
to
work
by
the
app
we're,
not
hiring
someone
new
for
this
so
and
that
board
is
only
here
for
now.
R
That
board
is
going
to
change
over
we're
we're
doing
something
that
will
live
throughout
the
board
and
that
the
citizens
I
mean
literally,
we
get
a
packed
room
every
time
we
talk
about
this,
so
I
would
absolutely
argue
that
the
public
really
does
want
this,
and
it's
not
going
to
be
that
expensive,
because
they
that
person
is
only
being
paid
when
they're
working
on
this
actual
issue.
It's
going
to
be
somebody
who's,
not
a
part
of
the
city.
J
J
All
this
does
is
this
provides
objectivity
I,
the
some
of
the
charter
amendments
I
proposed,
would
have
fixed
the
conflict
of
interest
of
the
of
the
City
attorney.
The
City
attorney
by
Charter
represents
the
mayor,
the
city
council,
the
the
the
the
board
members
of
these
committees
and
others,
as
well
as
the
city,
there's
an
inherent
conflict
of
interest
there,
and
we
know
that
from
proven
record
that
some
City
attorneys
have
misinterpreted
the
charter
in
particular
in
and
around
this
issue.
The
most
recent
one
which
we're
going
to
discuss
later
today
is
2018.
J
City
attorney
wrote
a
two
paragraph
memo
without
telling
city
council
that
guess
what
we
don't
have
to
go
before
city
council
to
get
approval
for
settlements
anymore.
That
was
completely
illegal.
He
also
said
in
the
in
that
memo
that
it
that
it
squashed
any
prior
ordinances.
The
charter
does
not
allow
that
it
was
an
illegal
in
the
private
sector.
We
would
file
lawsuits
about
that
to
stop
people
from
misinterpreting
Charter.
J
All
this
does
is
that,
since
the
City
attorney
reports
to
the
mayor,
it
makes
sure
that
the
independent
that
the
legal
Council
imagine
you
get
a
mayor
who's
anti-police
that
it
could
work
against
the
police
in
that
situation
too,
an
outside
attorney
has
to
by
bar
rules,
give
independent
counsel.
Thank
you.
N
Heard
it
there,
if
there's
a
dispute
between
the
parties,
then
they
hire
an
outside
counsel.
To
settle
dispute
am
I,
correct,
City
attorney
president
Lee
under.
AM
The
current
code-
yes,
if
the
if
the
crb
determines
that
there's
a
conflict
of
interest
in
the
City
attorney,
looks
at
it
if
she
determines
he
or
she
determines
that
there
is
a
conflict
they
can
hire
outside.
Council
I
actually
wanted
to
clarify
that
one
thing
I
heard
two
of
you
say:
oh
this
won't
cost
that
much
as
someone
and
Morris
could
actually
speak
to
this
even
more
than
me
as
someone
who's
currently
signing
the
invoices
for
outside
counsel,
which
we're
trying
to
keep
those
costs
under
control.
It
is
very
expensive.
AM
The
days
when
attorneys
outside
the
city
were
willing
to
take
City
work
at
a
at
a
significantly
discounted
rate
are
over
in
order
to
get
decent
attorneys,
we're
paying
relatively
High
hourly
rates,
and
you
can't
expect
an
attorney
to
just
come
to
a
board
meeting
and
sit
there
for
two
hours
and
only
charge
for
those
two
hours
they
need
to
prepare
for
it.
They
need
to
read
the
agenda.
They
need
to
read
the
backup
documentation.
They
need
to
take
the
calls
from
the
board
members
in
between
it.
AM
I,
you
would
be
shocked
at
how
quickly
hours
get
ratcheted
up
and
bills
get
bigger
and
bigger
and
I
just
I.
We
really
need
to
flesh
that
out
because
it's
just
not
accurate
to
say:
oh,
this
won't
cost
much
I
mean
it
depends
on
what
you
think
is
much,
but
the
legal
fees
that
we're
paying
outside
counsel
add
up
pretty
quickly.
R
What
percentage
of
the
1.9
billion
dollar
budget
does
it
cost
to
have
outside
counsel?
Yes,.
R
AM
R
I
And
John
Bennett
Chief
of
Staff
once
again
lifting
the
part
of
the
mayor's
memo
on
the
veto.
Just
to
answer
a
few
questions
that
I
heard
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
the
way
I
understand
it
would
outfit
a
single
officer
with
their
hiring
and
their
equipment.
So
just
for
some
relativity
on
that,
because
it
would
come
from
the
general
fund.
As
my
understanding,
so
just
a
detail.
I
Secondly,
we
went
through
a
very
intense
exercise
to
revamp
the
mayor
was
the
one
that
took
away
the
executive
order
and
worked
with
Council
to
build
an
ordinance
to
work
together
collaboratively
on
this,
and
she
didn't
know
what
had
changed
between
then
and
now
that
this
had
to
go
into
the
charter
and
then
the
last
point
there
is
nothing
in
the
charter
now
about
this
area.
So
now
we
have
a
one-off
in
the
charter
that
deals
with
something
that
had
already
been
addressed
by
ordinance
and
then
the
very
last
PostScript
to
that
is.
R
Chief
Bennett,
you
were
in
my
meeting
with
the
mayor.
I
just
want
a
quick,
yes
or
no
did.
Did
she
ask
me
that
question.
P
J
If
I
Chief,
if
I,
remember
correctly,
shot
spotter
costs
like
250
000
a
year
and
it's
been
proven
to
be
completely
ineffective
out
of
500
calls
that
wasted
police
officer
time.
Police
officers
complain
about
having
to
go
to
a
wasted
time
and
go
away
from
real
crimes.
It
resulted
in
25
charges
that
probably
were
all
called
in
by
9-1-1
anyway,
so
for
250
000.
How
many
officers
could
we
hire
for
that?
Two
and
a
half
based.
J
Then
right
and
then
there's
two
software.
There
are
two
software,
that's
another
good
schedule
for
the
other
day,
but
there
are
two
software
packages
that
that
police
officers
have
to
fill
out
and
they
complain
that
it's
redundant.
It's
taking
a
lot
of
time
to
fill,
to
fill
out
two
systems
and
and
they
should
be
spending
that
time
in
the
field
I
mean
that
time
alone
could
free
up
a
lot
of
time.
J
And
my
last
question
related
to
this
is
if,
if
the
mayor
had
put
out
the
Hannah
Avenue
project
to
bid
instead
of
just
signing
off
for
1.
108
million
dollars-
and
we
and
we
saved
5
million
dollars
by
let's
say
five
percent-
by
putting
it
out
for
bid
how
many
police
officers
could
we
have
hired
for
five
million
dollars?.
J
Yeah
I
mean
the
biggest
issue
with
the
police
officers.
Right
now
is
that
they,
they
are
stressed
out,
and
they
want
more
officers
to
help
to
help
fill
out
their
core
and
they
want
less
paperwork.
They
want
to
be
able
to
focus
on
building
trust
in
the
community.
This
having
independent
Council
protects
the
public.
The
reason
why
this
is
here
is
because
at
least
the
prior
Administration
created
hostile
policies
that
oppressed
the
East
Tampa
press,
the
black
community,
and
it's
caused
Tampa
to
have
a
horrible
reputation
right
now.
J
Right
now,
even
though
the
administration
tried
to
hide
it,
we
are
under
the
second
civil
rights
investigation
in
seven
years
because
of
it
because
of
programs
that
that
the
last
mayor
and
his
police
chief
of
police
who's,
now
the
mayor
created
and-
and
these
are
just
two
programs
that
were
found
through
investigative
reports
by
the
Tampa
Bay
Times-
imagine
what
else
is
out
there
that
we
don't
know
about.
These
are
not
programs
that
were
created
by
the
police
officers.
J
In
fact,
the
police
officers
don't
like
them
their
their
programs
created
because
we
had
people
on
top
of
the
city
who,
who
intentionally
created
racist
programs
that
oppressed
and
the
public
as
part
of
the
settlement
for
that
wanted.
The
crb
and
then
prior
administrations
tried
to
edit
the
crb
down
and
all
the
public
is
simply
asking
for
now
is
give
us
an
attorney
who
doesn't
report
to
the
mayor,
because
we
get
another
attorney.
Another
mayor
who
insists
on
protecting
defending
and
hiding
racist
policies.
J
And
I
and
I
should
say
also
I
should
also
say
and
I
kind
of
said
this
before
having
objective
attorney
also
protects
the
police
officers.
Imagine
how
vulnerable
the
police
officers
are
having
to
go
through
this
public
process.
They
I'm
sure
would
want
an
objective
attorney
because
they
don't
want
any
politics
inserted
in
this
at
all.
So
all
we're
asking
for
is
is
there
was
so
much
money
being
wasted
in
this
Administration?
We
need
objectivity.
We
need
to
pay
for
an
outside
counsel
because
we
haven't
gotten
it
in.
I
The
past
thank
you,
and
we
also
believe
that
that
can
be
accomplished
by
ordinance
that
the
big
concern
with
the
with
the
charter
is
that
we
didn't
hear
any
scope:
the
scope
of
money,
the
scope
of
selection
process,
the
scope
of
protecting
the
crb
as
a
body
who's
doing
the
volunteer
work.
We
wanted
to
hear
all
of
that
scope
company
that
we
hadn't
heard
that
so
that
was
the
the
reason
the
mayor
veteran
is
to
understand
more
of
that
scope
and
why
she
invited
everybody
to
the
table
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
that.
Okay,.
AN
Thank
you
very
much,
just
three
things,
which
is
when
I'd
suggested
that
the
the
the
outline
in
terms
of
how
we
go
I
mean
I.
This
is
kind
of,
and.
AN
Chief
Bennett
not
councilman,
Carlson,
not
pointing
at
either
one,
but
just
to
move
this
forward,
because
I
think
people
know
how
they're
going
to
vote
Etc
and
just
really
quick.
Just
just
a
a
point.
I
guess,
if
you
will,
with
regards
to
I
I,
try
to
never
to
call
it
an
independent
attorney,
but
a
separate
attorney
I'll
give
you
all
just
as
an
attorney
an
example.
Let's
say
you
get
into
an
accident
and
you're
insured
by
Allstate.
AN
Allstate
gives
you
an
attorney
who
works
for
Allstate
in-house,
just
like
a
City
attorney
works
for
the
City
of
Tampa
in-house.
They
are,
by
virtue
of
their
being
a
member
of
the
Florida
bar
the
floor
bar
ethics
rules
and
independent
attorney,
even
though
they
are
paid
for
directly
by
Allstate
Allstate
May,
alternatively,
wish
to
go
to
an
outside
Law
Firm,
who
they
pay
just
like
the
city
will
pay
that
outside
attorney,
both
of
them
have
the
very
same
ethical
duties
to
the
client.
AN
B
Miss
Zellman
the
first
Chief
Bennett
and
then
I'll
ask
for
someone
I
just
heard
something
earlier
that
shot
spotter
was
paid
for
out
of
the
general
fund.
That's
paid
for
by
grant
that
was
received
by
the
police
department,
I.
I
B
Finger
but
that
do
we
have
any
voting
record
of
the
members
of
the
crb
on
this
particular
issue.
I.
A
B
AM
AM
AE
Hello,
my
name
is
David
Jones,
District,
Seven
yeah,
so
I'll
organize
with
Tampa
Bay
community
action
committee
right
now,
we're
having
people
DM
us
talking
about
experiences
they've
had
with
police
brutality,
they're
dming
us
pictures
of
their
bruises
that
they
received
from
the
police
they're
telling
us
all
the
details,
we're
also
a
volunteer
group
led
by
truly
a
lot
of
people
coming
either
out
of
college
people
who
work
full-time
people
who
do
not
have
the
range
to
do
that
truly.
AE
But
what
we
do
have
is
this
crb
that
is
funded
by
the
city.
That
does
have
some
actual
influence
that
can
be
doing
something,
but
because
of
the
way
it's
currently
run,
people
don't
feel
comfortable
going
there
right
now.
This
vote
is
to
make
it
so
that
the
people
in
Tampa
can
vote
to
make
it
well
what
they
need
it
to
be
and
something
that
can
actually
help
them.
AE
There's
only
so
much
we
can
do
there's
only
so
many
resources.
We
can
point
people
towards
there's
only
one
so
much
we
can
help
out
with.
But
if
this
board
is
there
to
like
review
you
these
cases
to
make
sure
that
the
police
are
being
held
accountable
to
demand
that
there's
actual
transparency
happening,
it
needs
to
happen
from
the
people
who
are
like
being
paid
to
do
it
so
I
think
that
putting
this
on
the
ballot
and
making
sure
that
it
can
be
shaped.
AE
The
way
that
the
need,
the
way
that
the
people
need
it
to
be
shaped
is
completely
necessary.
Helping
y'all
a
lot
of
over
roads.
AD
Taylor
cook
Tampa
Bay
community
action
committee.
This
is
getting
ridiculous
like
I'm,
sorry,
but
we
have
been
here
all
day.
Like
Lynn
hertak
said
we,
the
room
is
always
packed
when
y'all
talk
about
the
crb.
So
why
are
we
still
debating
this?
Why
are
we
debating
it
again?
We
have
been
here
every
time
saying
we
want
this
and
we
want
to
vote
on
this.
So
why
are
we
continuing
to
be
like?
Oh
I,
don't
know
if
it's
possible,
then
why
was
it
voted
on?
Why
did
it
vote
and
pass?
AD
We
should
be
allowed
to
vote.
Are
you
going
to
let
Democracy
stand
in
the
city
of
Tampa
or
are
you
going
to
let
it
die
I
you
tell
me
this
is
ridiculous.
We've
been
here
all
day
debating
the
same
thing.
Are
you
going
to
let
us
vote
or
not?
That's
the
question,
not
if
the
crb
said
yes
or
no
it's
what
the
people
want.
We
want
to
vote
we're
here
because
we
are
saying
we
want
to
vote.
So
let
us
vote.
AB
No
Myers
Tampa
Bay
community
action
committee
I
just
want
to
contextualize
those
crb
meetings
and
how
that
City
attorney
actually
goes.
There
was
a
point
in
time
where
we
had
a
discussion
about
subpoena
power
at
the
crb
meetings
and
I
watched
as
the
the
city
hired
attorney
misled
the
crb
about
what
the
subpoena
power
was
capable
of,
and
there
have
been
complaints
about
the
City
attorney.
The
ACLU
has
mentioned
how
many
times
he
had
leaned
on
the
crb
to
hurry
decisions
and
to
hurry
investigations.
AB
It's
just
not
it
just
isn't
a
rational
thing
to
do.
To
have
somebody
who
has
a
clear
conflict
of
interest
as
councilman
Bill
Bill
Carlson
has
said
with
the
police
department,
and
it
just
doesn't
make
any
sense
when
we're
trying
to
investigate
them
for
things
that
they
did
right,
I
it
just.
It
really
is
to
benefit
of
no
one
and
we're
still
doing
it,
and
but
and
then
again
we.
AB
It
like
it's
a
very
simple
thing
to
do
and
I'm
sure
all
of
you
kind
of
understand
that
it's
just
this
is
a
weird
circumstance
and
we
shouldn't
be
in
it.
Thank
you.
AO
Rick
Pfeiffer,
when
I
watched
these
discussions
back
in
December
a
couple
things
just
make
common
sense
to
me.
If
you're
going
to
have
a
Citizens
review
board,
it
needs
to
have
some
autonomy
because
I
see
a
lot
of
people,
people
that
I
know
in
the
black
and
brown
communities.
That
does
a
great
deal
of
mistrust
and
we
need
to
rebuild
that
and
if
autonomy
allows
that
to
be
rebuilt,
it
that's
the
way
to
go
at
with
the
independent
Council,
but
I
also
tell
you.
AO
G
Stephanie
Poyner
James
Michael
Shaw,
asked
me
to
read
this
statement.
Please
they
were
misinformed
by
Council
for
Tampa
PD
that
it
was
a
full-time
position.
Several
of
them
said
that
they
thought
that
they
were
voting
against
a
full-time
position,
a
full-time
attorney.
The
62
vote
was
not
a
vote
that
they
didn't
want
a
part-time
attorney
to
be
independent,
don't
be
misled.
AH
Fellow
Council
Robin
Lockett
taxpayer
money
taxpayer
vote,
it's
frustrating
to
sit
here
and
see
nickel
and
diming
of
taxpayer
money.
Taxpayer
money
taxpayer
vote
I,
don't
understand
why?
Why
is
it
is
so
difficult
to
put
it
on
the
ballot
and
let
people
vote
if
they
agree
with
it.
They
agree
with
it.
If,
if
and
everybody
has
to
do
work
to
get
the
workout
to
get
the
word
out
right,
you
guys
have
to
do
the
work
to
do
the
work
to
get
the
word
out
in
regards
to
where
you
stand.
AH
Community
has
to
Rally
together
to
get
the
word
out
to
confirm
where
we
stand
so
put
it
on
the
ballot.
I,
don't
understand
we're
going
back
and
forth
and,
like
the
young
lady
said,
we've
been
here
for
a
long
time,
mulling
over
re-talking,
rethinking
and
and
coming
up
with
offers.
That
should
have
happened
before
this
came
to
this
point
right
now,
so
we
can't
undo
stuff
and
all
the
compromising
that
should
have
happened
should
have
happened
beforehand,
so
put
it
on
the
ballot
and,
let's
vote.
AK
AK
I'm
gonna
have
to
tell
the
truth
a
little
bit
here
when
the
administration
made
a
phone
call
to
Virginia,
and
we
want
Cops
to
come
here
and
investigate
this
black
and
white
black
cops
has
no
enforcement
Authority
their
recommendations,
you
can
throw
them
in
the
in
the
garbage.
Can
you
can
actually
put
it
over
here?
The
justice
department
never
ever
was
involved,
because
the
letter
that
the
NAACP
went
was
getting
ready
right
was
held
up
so
long
until
they
had
came
to
their
report
and
said
this
is
what
we're
going
to
do.
AK
R
R
Oh
there
we
are,
and
I
I
just
also
wanted
to
say
that
this
was
a
unanimous
vote
on
second
reading.
F
N
R
Folks,
I'm
not
talking
to
you
I'm
talking
to
them
and
I,
have
the
floor
right
now.
I'm!
Sorry!
So
right
now,
I'm
going
to
pass
an
ordinance
relating
to
the
government
of
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida.
That.
H
B
That's
right,
correct
me:
I'm,
sorry,
ordinance,
number,
2023-5,
I.
C
N
C
Read
one
so
I
am
in
in
support
of
this.
We
did
have
a
charter
review
commission
established
for
the
first
time,
which
some
of
us
voted
for
that,
and
many
of
us
were
on
that
board,
not
myself,
but
four
members
here
and
they
did
a
very,
very
good
job.
I.
Think
that
reconvening
the
or
convening
a
charter
review
commission
at
a
more
at
a
higher
frequency
is
healthy,
because
you
have
a
full
board
with
full
discussion
to
overlook
Charter
issues,
and
this
is
coming
around
the
corner
in
2025.
C
C
H
If
I
can,
if
Mr
chairman,
I'm
sorry
I,
believe
this
is
a
A
Minor,
scriveness
error,
that's
unrelated
to
the
substance
is
that
correct?
That's
is
Mr,
Massey
I,
see
him
nodding,
yes,
but
the,
but,
but
it
is
as
as
Council
city
council
had
talked
about
changing
it
from
every
10
years
to
every
eight
years
and
changing
the
date
that
it
would
start
that
much
sooner
as
to
what
is
presently
in
the
charter.
B
I
The
highlighted
area
talks
about
specifically
what
the
concern
is
about
has
been
all
along
is
that
Council
can
already
invoke
a
CRC
anytime.
They
want,
over
and
above
other
processes
that
have
been
designed
for
a
10-year
span.
So
you
know
we
all
know
what
we
could
do
and
then
there's
the
question
of
what
other
options
there
were.
I
G
To
point
out
that,
if
we
had
a
charter,
we
we
didn't,
have
a
charter
review
this
time
and
that's
like
some
of
the
complaints
from
the
people
who
are
opposed
to
these
Charter
amendments.
So
what
you're
saying
is
we
don't
like
the
way
you
did
it
this
time,
but
we
also
don't
want
you
to
do
it
a
different
way,
I'm
just
so
confused
foreign.
AK
N
And
just
I'm
looking
at
it
and
it
used
to
be
every
10
years,
but
then
this
city
council,
without
having
any
input
from
anyone
from
the
community
who
said
in
the
charter,
Review
Committee,
decided
to
do
it
four
years
later.
So
now
we're
giving
eight
years
instead
of
four.
That's.
What
really
is
because
we
we
violated
our
own
intent
by
not
having
a
committee
of
citizens
selected
to
give
us
the
input
from
their
Community
to
make
sure
that
we
knew
what
we
were
talking
about.
That's
all
I'm
going
to
say.
B
AH
So
again,
this
is
just
I'm
frustrated,
so
if
this
is
put
on
when
this
is
put
on
a
ballot,
whether
we
have
a
meeting
or
not
a
lot
of
those
committed
meetings
are
hand-picked
by
people,
not
the
true
community.
So
if
you
put
this
on
the
ballot,
people
can
vote
on
it.
That's
a
wider
spread,
a
small
group
of
people,
that's
chosen
by
somebody
to
sit
on
on
a
committee.
It
does
not
speak
for
the
people,
so
put
it
on
the
ballot
and
let
everybody
vote
for
it.
B
B
J
Carlson
Mr
chair
I
apologize
for
stepping
out
a
minute.
I
was
getting
a
drink
and
while
I
was
out,
there
I
discovered
that
the
that
the
mayor
released
a
push-pull
about
me,
I,
have
copies
of
the
I,
have
copies
of
the
poll.
If
anybody
would
like
to
see
it,
but
she
released
a
push-pull
during
this
meeting
and
and
what
she
did
in
her
poll.
J
Was
she
not
only
asked
if,
if
people
would
vote
for
me
versus
her
and
I
had
already
told
her
I
wasn't
running
for
mayor
and
I've
had
already
filed
to
run
for
city
council,
but
then
she
asked
a
whole
series
of
defamatory
and
it
untrue
questions
about
me,
demeaning
my
ethics
and
then
she
asked
the
question
whether
people
would
re-elect
me
or
not,
and
so
she
just
put
out
a
poll
saying
that
only
4
7
of
people
would
re-elect
me
today.
J
That's
after
asking
five,
really
nasty,
negative
untrue
questions,
I
think
that's
pretty
successful
and
I
I
think
it's
despicable
again.
It
keeps
talking
about
dirty
tactics
of
this
Administration
while
we're
in
this
meeting,
because
they
disagree
with
what
I'm
saying
they're
releasing
a
push-pull
to
try
to
distract
community's
attention
away
from
the
important
subjects
by
the
way
we're
talking
about
toilets
tap
this
afternoon,
so
public,
please
watch!
Why
can't
they
just
play
nice?
Why
the
public
doesn't
want
this
fighting
anymore?
They
don't
want
false
information.
They
don't
want
dirty
politics.
J
Stop
Madame
mayor,
stop,
I
asked
you
in
your
office
on
Friday,
stop
tell
your
people
to
stop
now.
It's
your
campaign,
people
attacking
us!
Why
can't
you
play
fair
and
have
honest
discussions
about
real
policy?
You
just
your
people
are
so
weak
and
so
insecure
that
you
just
have
to
play
dirty.
You
know
how
many
times,
if
you're,
if
your
kid
is
on
the
field
and
somebody's
coming
in,
pushing
them
and
punching
them
and
kicking
them
and
hitting
them,
are
you
going
to
do
something
eventually?
J
R
I'm
sorry
to
hear
about
that
I
also
just
got
a
request.
Yesterday,
so
they've
started
on
what
they've
started
on
with
everybody
else.
I
finally
got
my
first
public
records
request
for
all
every
type
of
communication.
No
dates,
no
deadlines,
Anonymous.
So
now
I
am
also
under
this
investigation
and
just
you
know,
asking
finding
text
messages,
emails
things
I've
done
with
people.
Well,
you
know
I
stay
above
the
board.
I
do
what
I'm
supposed
to
do
and
I
and
people
say
wow.
R
You
must
feel
bad
and
I
say
no,
not
really
because
I'm
doing
the
right
thing,
I'm
not
worried
about
it,
and
it
often
feels
like
that.
Push
where
we
always
say
that
folks
put
their
personal
fears
on
other
people
and
I
feel
like
that's,
what's
happening
here.
So
they're
just
going
after
all
of
us,
that's
what's
happening.
J
They
want
a
city
council
that
will
do
everything
they
do
and,
in
particular,
pass
toilet
attack.
This
is
the
big
thing
that
they
want.
They
want
so
many
bad
things
and
they
will
do
anything
to
get
these.
These
horrible
policies
passed.
Please
Madam
mayor
call
a
halt
to
these
attacks.
It's
political
season,
you
don't
have
an
opponent,
yet
you
have
24
hours,
call
a
halt
to
these
attacks.
This
is
ridiculous.
B
N
Agree
with
Mr
Carlson:
if
this
is
an
Administration
or
an
individual,
might
be
I,
don't
know
who's
doing
it,
I
I,
don't
even
answer
polls
I,
don't
even
look
at
them.
The
guy
wrote
me
a
week
or
so
ago.
John
we
got
a
poll
for
you
to
do.
I,
didn't
even
open
it
up.
I,
don't
do
those
things
I,
don't
even
look
at
them
or
think
about
them,
because
they're
all
ridiculously
push
polls
are
terrible.
N
They
only
change
the
subject
matter
to
whatever
they
want
to
the
answer
to
be,
and
if
it's
a
mayor's
office,
it
should
be
told
stop
like
you're
doing.
However,
on
the
other
issues,
when
you
look
at
people
asking
for
public
records
requests,
we
have
thousands
of
public
record
requests
come
through
this
city
and
I
can
tell
you
this
I,
don't
know
what
your
your
council
member
her
attack
is
I,
don't
know
what
the
subject
matter
was
so
I'm
not
going
to
address
it
because
I
don't
know,
but
I
can
tell
you
this.
N
R
I
just
wanted
to
reply
to
councilman
Miranda.
That's
actually
the
most
interesting
part,
there's
no
subject,
there's
no,
there's
nothing!
They're!
Looking
for
they're,
literally
looking
for
every
single
email
and
that's
the
thing:
that's
just
gonna
yeah
you're
right!
It's
it's
fishing!
So
I
don't
disagree
with
you
and
but
but
that's
what
they've
done
to
council
members
that
don't
necessarily
agree
now,
whether
it's
Administration
or
not,
people
who
are
just
not
willing
to
rubber
stamp.
That's
what's
happening
to
us
and
it's
really
unfortunate
and
you
know.
U
First
day
on
Council
Miss
Miranda
says
you
don't
get
mad
at
somebody's
vote.
I
had
to
learn
that
the
first
time
so
I
can't
get
mad.
How
anybody
voted
today
because
they
voted
with
their
conscience.
They
voted
politically.
How
are
they
voted?
That's
not
mine!
My
concern.
My
concern
is
how
I
vote
and
how
my
people
tell
me
to
vote.
I,
don't
go
into
politics,
don't
worry
about
endorsements
or
who
going
to
do
it
because,
let
me
check
Miranda
said
you
talk.
U
You
said
all
the
time
when
people
vote
I
didn't
lose
I
used
to
get
enough
votes
exactly
right.
So
you
you
don't
vote
for
me.
It
means
you
don't
like
the
job.
I
did
you
vote
for
you
like
the
job.
I
did
so
I
can't
worry
about
an
endorsement
or
who
gonna
like
me
or
who
don't
I,
told
Mr
better
than
me.
I
I,
I,
I'm,
gonna
respect
anybody
in
the
respective
place.
I
don't
have
to
like
you,
but
I'm
gonna
respect
you
I,
don't
like
anybody,
but
I
must
respect
you.
U
I'm
gonna
do
the
job.
You
tell
me
to
do
and
I'm
always
going
to
fight
for
the
people
and
when
it's
something
not
right,
I
will
always
say:
hey
and
I
would
tell
the
people.
This
is
what
I
don't
think
is
right,
but
let's
do
this
so
they'll
understand
so
I
I
apologize
for
someone
who
stay
here
all
day,
we've
been
here
a
while
and
I
wish.
The
process
would
have
been
a
little
faster
because
I
got
frustrated
myself.
That
I
thought
this
should
have
been
very
simple.
U
You
know
you
voted,
you
didn't
vote,
you
didn't
like
some
say
something,
but
to
have
all
the
discussions
almost
after
one
o'clock,
I
just
think
it's
a
travesty
for
the
voters
and
those
who
came
out
here
who
missed
work
with
other
obligations.
So
again,
I
apologize
for
me.
I
can't
believe
anybody
else.
I
can
only
say
for
me
and
God
bless
you
all.