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A
B
A
C
A
D
And
thank
you
very
much.
I
would
like
to
call
my
friend
and
colleague
mr.
John
Zaffino,
to
please
come
forward
for
the
prayer
in
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
Mr.
Schiff
inna
was
a
very
well
respected
and
known
trial
and
appellate
attorney,
who
works
for
the
law,
firm
of
gunsther,
Y,
Oakley
and
Stewart.
Here
in
Tampa,
he
practices
in
business
litigation,
labor,
employment
and
mediation.
D
He
is
finishing
up
a
very
busy
year
of
service
as
president
to
an
organization
very
close
to
my
heart,
the
Hillsborough
County
Bar
Association
and
he's
looking
forward
to
being
vice
chair
of
the
Florida
Bar
Standing
Committee,
on
diversity,
inclusion
and
in
other
various
activities.
He
was
born
in
Jacksonville,
raised
here
in
Tampa
and
with
his
wife.
Sarah
has
two
children,
Jack
and
Eleanor.
So
if
everyone
could
please
stand
for
the
prayer
and
remain
standing
for
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
B
Thank
You
Cara
Thank
You
Council
for
those
who
wish
to
join
me.
Please
bow
your
heads
Heavenly
Father.
Thank
you
on
behalf
of
all
who
are
gathered
here
today.
Thank
you
for
your
many
and
abundant
blessings.
Thank
you
for
life
itself
for
the
measure
of
Health.
We
need
to
fulfill
our
callings
for
sustenance
and
for
friendship.
Thank
you
for
the
ability
to
be
involved
in
useful
work
and
for
the
honor
of
bearing
appropriate
responsibilities.
Thank
you
as
well
for
the
freedom
to
embrace
you
or
the
freedom
to
reject
you.
B
Thank
you
for
loving
us,
even
so
from
your
boundless
and
gracious
nature
in
the
Scriptures,
you've
said
that
citizens
ought
to
obey
the
governing
authorities,
since
you
have
established
those
very
Authority
from
a
peace
order
and
justice.
Therefore,
I
pray
for
our
mayor
for
the
various
levels
of
city
officials
and
in
particular,
for
this
assembled
and
esteemed
council
I'm,
asking
that
you
would
graciously
grant
them
wisdom
to
govern
amid
the
conflicting
interests
and
issues
of
our
times
a
sense
of
the
welfare
and
true
needs
of
our
people.
B
The
Keen
thirst
for
justice
and
rightness
confidence
in
what
is
good
and
fitting
the
ability
to
work
together
in
harmony,
even
when
there
is
honest
disagreement
and
personal
peace
in
their
lives
enjoying
their
tasks.
We
ask
for
your
hand
of
blessing
on
this
meeting
and
the
agenda
set
before
City
Council
today
is
in
your
most
blessed
name.
We
amen
allegiance
to
the
flag
in
the
United
States
of
America
to
the
Republic
for
which
it
stands.
E
Mr.
chair
council
members
I
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
be
part
of
the
Public
Safety
Committee,
and
it
is
an
honor
to
to
give
this
combination
to
deserve
it
Officer
of
the
month.
If
I
may
start
out,
please
any
council
member
anybody
in
the
audience.
Anybody
at
home
would
like
to
see
what
our
officers
do.
Each
and
every
day,
I
advise
you
please
to
go
to
the
citizens
police
academy
there.
You
will
find
out
exactly
what
our
officers
do
in
their
daily
lives
and
keeping
us
safe
and
protecting
us.
E
Having
said
that,
we
are
here
to
honor
one
of
Tampa's
finest.
There
are
over
900
of
staff
and
are
in
our
police
officers.
I
wish
we
could
honor
all
of
them.
However,
we
can
only
do
one
at
a
time
officer.
Donnelly
is
worthy
of
this,
and
I
cannot
express
my
thanks
to
her
and
to
all
the
other
officers
for
what
they
do
and
now
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
chief
Dugan
chief.
Would
you
please
explain
what
this
officer
is
worthy
of
this
award.
F
Thank
you
good
morning,
Council
Brian,
Dugan
chief
police,
the
Tampa
Police
Department
this
morning
here
for
Officer
of
the
month
officer,
Bobby,
Donnelly,
you're
gonna,
hear
some
really
good
things
that
she's
doing
not
only
within
our
department
what
she
does
out
there
in
the
community.
I
think
you
all
know
the
value
of
the
community
policing
and
that
comes
in
very
various
aspects
of
what
we
do.
She
has
been
employed
with
tamp
Police
Department
since
2013
she
transferred
to
the
personnel
unit
back
in
August
of
2018
and
hit
the
ground
running.
F
She
has
attended
22
job
fairs,
including
recruiting
at
local
police
academies,
high
schools,
colleges
and
universities,
and
you
know
the
value
of
our
recruitment
process
so
that
we
have
a
diverse
work
group
that
we
can
really
relate
to
our
community.
Her
passion
for
the
job
and
enthusiasm
are
contagious.
She
received
a
commendation
from
the
criminal
justice
instructor
at
Jefferson,
High
School,
who
wanted
to
express
his
gratitude
to
Bobby
for
speaking
to
his
students.
F
One
image
is
now
a
Tampa
Police
Department
dispatcher,
due
to
bobbies
efforts
in
addition
to
recruiting
externally
Bobby
responds
to
online
questions
from
applicants,
also,
along
with
phone
calls
and
walkins.
She
is
responsible
for
processing
all
of
our
civilian
employees
and
Reserve
Officer
applicants.
Her
thoroughness
and
professionalism
are
exemplary.
Bobby
has
shown
true
leadership
traits.
She
always
shows
initiative
by
independently
seeking
opportunities
to
learn.
She
completed
an
instructor
techniques
course,
so
she
could
assist
the
training
unit
when
necessary,
as
she
feels
an
area
needs
improvement.
She
immediately
begins
working
on
ways
to
correct
the
problems.
F
Recently.
She
noticed
that
recruiting
brochures
looked
outdated.
She
worked
with
the
Public
Information
Office
to
recreate
all
the
department's
recruitment
for
Shores,
including
the
Explorers
and
communications.
Bobbie,
has
developed
a
reputation
as
a
team
player
and
is
always
willing
to
go
beyond
her
job
description
to
help
with
any
additional
tasks
the
department
needs.
She
is
a
mentor
with
Big,
Brothers
and
Big
Sisters
of
Tampa
Bay
and
makes
it
a
priority
to
spend
time
with
her
little.
She
always
goes
above
and
beyond.
She
does
a
very
good
job.
F
I
interact
with
her
a
lot
with
the
personnel
and
recruiting
and
she
always
has
a
sense
of
humor
and
likes
to
keep
me
in
check
and
I.
Very
much
appreciate
that
and
her
her
positive
attitude
certainly
is
contagious
and
in
recognition
of
her
hard
work
and
dedication
officer,
Bobby
Donnelly
has
been
selected
as
officer
of
the
month
for
May
of
2019.
Congratulations.
E
B
Morning,
council
morning
staff
president
Darla
Portman,
with
the
Tampa
PBA
secretary
gene
haynes
here
I
have
had
the
honor
and
opportunity
of
working
with
Bobby
Donnelly.
We
worked
together
when
she
first
came
on
as
an
officer
in
North,
Boulevard
homes
and
everything
chief
Dugan
said
about
her
was
spot
on,
and
this
is
no
shocker
to
me
that
you
got
this
award.
So
I
appreciate
everything
you
do
for
the
department
and
the
PBA
appreciates
everything
that
you
did
too.
So
we.
B
C
B
C
B
B
B
G
K
M
B
N
So
they're
making
us
too
short
and
sweet
Steve,
Nicolini
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
a
couple
of
different
folks,
who'd
like
to
honor
you
one
of
them
is
the
aqua
restaurant
at
the
Westin
on
Courtney
Campbell
they're
gonna
provide
you
with
the
gift
certificates,
the
enjoying
lunch
or
dinner.
On
behalf
of
the
Cheetos
Restaurant
Group
breakfast
lunch
dinner,
any
one
of
their
establishments
on
South,
Howard
prestige,
portraits
they're,
going
to
provide
you
with
a
gift
package.
So
you
can
go.
Have
your
portraits
done?
The
YMCA?
If
you
need
that,
did
you
get
it
passed?
N
B
Here
good
morning,
Council
I
would
just
like
to
say
thank
you
to
the
council,
the
staff
everybody
that's
here
today
for
your
support.
I
can
tell
you
that,
back
whenever
I
got
hired
as
a
new
police
officer,
I
did
so
for
pure
community
service
to
serve
my
community.
It
wasn't
for
benefits.
The
recruiters
and
I
would
make
a
joke
saying
that
when
you're
that
young
you'll
do
this
for
free,
so
that
was
me
to
the
the
thought
of
being
recognized
for
anything,
never
crossed
my
mind.
It
was
never
an
expectation
at
all
till
this
day.
B
O
As
a
person
who
has
stood
before
council
before
and
receive
officer
of
the
run
a
couple
of
times
and
back
in
my
day
to
give
you
a
nice
watch
with
TPD
emblem
in
it,
it's
kind
of
like
taboo,
you
look
at
how
the
tide
turns
now
that
I'm,
so
grateful
I
can
stand
up
here
and
now
give
someone
else,
an
accommodation
with
a
work
they've
done
well
for
our
community
in
the
sponsor.
So
congratulations
to
you
and
good
luck
in
your
career.
Thank.
D
O
M
B
D
M
B
A
Honorable
chairman
Tampa
City
Council
honorable
members
of
Tampa
City
Council
today's
a
special
day
not
only
for
mr.
Lee
Hoffman,
but
for
all
the
city
of
Tampa,
the
accomplishments
that
he's
been
in
16
years.
First
of
all,
leave
Huffman
has
worked
for
six
mayors,
and
that
means
he's
worked
for
one
mayor
than
I
have
so
you'd
be
commended
for
that
you're,
not
as
old
as
I.
Am
you
don't
look
at
one
day
over
50
no
I
was
gonna,
say
40,
but
I'll
take
50.
In
fact
we're
both
take
50,
but
it's
I
don't
eat.
A
Has
he
done?
Yeoman's
work,
perfect
work,
and
when
you
look
at
the
Riverwalk,
you
start
on
one
side.
You
finish
on
the
other
side,
do
you
really
think
and
say
I
wonder
how
this
was
put
together?
How
who
worked
on
this
and
who's
done?
All
of
the
trustworthy
work
and
brain
work,
the
pudding
and
making
it
happen?
Well,
the
gentleman
to
my
left
is
the
responsible
person
that
worked
on
this
from
the
beginning
to
the
end,
and
not
too
many
can
say
that
and
I
think
that
Riverwalk
may
be
expended.
A
But
up
to
now
it
is
the
end
at
present
time.
I
don't
need
that
he
served
for
us
militarily
in
the
United
States
Air
Force.
He
had
the
rank
of
colonel
congratulations.
Sir
he's
been
a
dedicated
employee
to
the
city
of
Tampa,
he's
been
serving
the
community
serving
his
country
for
so
many
years
in
the
Air
Force,
and
it's
our
pleasure
to
make
this
combination
to
you,
Lee
for
the
outstanding
work.
A
H
A
Yet
well,
don't
say
that
too
loud,
a
lot
of
Gators
in
here,
a
lot
of
bulls
and
and
a
lot
of
Seminoles
around
so
be
careful.
It's
a
take
care.
So
thank
you.
So
much
for
your
service
appreciate
appreciate
everybody
behind
the
staff
that
he's
worked
with
and
also
along
those
lines.
He's
also
went
to
work
and
the
department
that
he
was
in
charge
of
making
sure
that
everybody
was
treated
fairly
and
I.
Appreciate
that
very
much.
H
Number
one
I
think
it's
very,
very
honored
that
you
would
do
this.
I
certainly
appreciate
that,
and
you
know,
16
years
with,
the
city
has
just
been
amazing
and
one
thing
about
the
Riverwalk:
it
greatly
increased
my
prayer
life,
you
know
it
really
did
and
the
Lord
was
good
and
he
answered
all
those
prayers
so
and
we
have
a
Riverwalk,
but
it
was
a.
H
It
was
an
amazing
project
and
I
just
thoroughly
enjoyed
it,
and
even
though
I
was
kind
of
in
front
of
that
there
are
so
many
people
in
the
city
that
made
that
happen.
They
really
did
and
the
City
Council
was
a
key
part
of
that,
because
there
are
so
many
things
that
came
before
council.
They
have
to
be
passed
in
order
to
make
all
the
pieces
come
together
and
I
really
appreciate
all
the
leadership
that
we've
seen
here
in
the
council
and
and
and
the
support.
H
H
You
know
that
I
have
developed
over
time
and
and
I
have
really
come
to
love
the
people
that
I
work
with
there's
one
thing
about
the
city
is
we
have
good
people,
we
really
have
good
people
and
I'm
really
gonna
miss
all
the
folks
that
we
got
to
work
with
and
work
for
and
again
I.
Just
thank
you
so
much
for
the
honor
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
M
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you,
I,
remember
your
name
from
way
back
working
on
this
and
and
friends
like
Beth,
Latham,
Steve,
Anderson,
a
whole
bunch
of
other
people
over
the
years
who
were
involved
with
you
and
I.
Remember
years
ago,
people
thought
it
was
impossible
to
do
this
and
I
think
that
your
your
case
study
or
your
your
results
are
a
lesson
in
persistence,
and
so
thank
you
for
your
persistence
and
hard
work
over
the
years
to
get.
What
is
what
done
is
what
one
of
the
most
beautiful
things
we
have
in
our
city?
D
Okay,
next
last
item
on
our
ceremonial
agenda
would
like
to
ask
for
my
friend
mr.
Craig
gross
to
please
come
up.
Mr.
gross
is
the
chaplain
for
the
Florida
Goldstar
fathers
and
has
dedicated
his
life
to
honoring
his
son's
name.
Corporal
Frank
gross
was
killed
in
action
in
2011
in
Afghanistan
when
an
explosive
device
cost
a
military
vehicle
to
roll
over
corporal
gross
now
rests
eternally
in
Arlington
in
Section
60
a
long
time.
D
D
His
journey
has
taken
him
with
his
wonderful
wife
Toni
to
so
many
places
from
Tampa
International
Airport
welcome
home
troops
to
the
USO
through
Christmas
holiday
parties,
with
the
Vietnam
Veterans
of
America
to
warrior
game
committee
meetings
to
meeting
with
the
President
of
the
United
States
at
the
White
House,
and
also
through
his
wonderful
work,
Frankie's
Patriot
barbeque,
a
restaurant
that
you
had
for
many
years
and
named
after
your
late
son
Frank.
So
it's
our
real
honor
to
welcome
here,
mr.
K
Thank
you
very
much
counsel.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
show
everybody
my
son's
picture.
This
is
corporal
Frank
Robert
gross
I.
Consider
my
son
to
be
kind
of
like
the
poster
child
of
Memorial,
Day
least
for
our
family.
My
wife
and
I
both
grew
up
in
military
families.
My
dad
did
31
years
in
the
Army
and
Army
Reserve
and
her
dad
did
29
years
in
the
Navy.
Both
of
them
were
distinguished
officers
and
highly
decorated.
K
K
It's
a
day
where
we
take
pause
and
we
think
about
those
who
sacrificed
and
gave
the
full
measure
for
our
country,
whether
it's
from
the
Revolutionary
War,
whether
it
is
to
the
day
that
the
Civil
War
started
in
Charleston,
South,
Carolina
or
whether
it
is
Vietnam
or
Iraq
or
Afghanistan
people
are
getting
it
back
when
I
joined
the
service
during
the
Vietnam
War.
If
you
remember,
soldiers
and
sailors
and
airmen
and
Marines
were
basically
spit
on
that
has
changed.
K
K
K
K
D
People
know
that
we
have
actually
had
one
president
who
was
a
gold
star
father.
A
lot
of
people,
don't
know
that
next
Theodore
Roosevelt,
whose
son
Quentin
died
in
1918,
June
or
July
of
1918
in
World
War,
one
and
Theodore
Roosevelt
was
a
man
who
was
stood
a
lot.
He
was
Medal
of
Honor
recipient
San,
Juan
Hill.
He
even
took
a
bullet
in
1912,
but
his
son
dying
in
combat
broke
his
heart.
His
wife
even
died.
D
His
first
wife
died
in
six
months
after
that
Theodore
Roosevelt
died
and
a
lot
of
people
said
that
one
of
the
things
that
really
took
away
his
fighting
spirit
was
his
son
dying
in
combat.
So
I
put
this
picture
here
of
Quentin
Roosevelt
next
to
his
father.
This
is
a
1918
and
I
believe
he's
actually
wearing
a
blue
star
over
there
symbolizing
that
his
son
is
over-seasoned
I
just.
I
Enough
for
for
your
sacrifice,
your
service,
your
son,
sacrifice
and
I'm
and
I've
often
said
that
it's
not
just
you
know,
monday
is
Memorial.
Day
every
day
is
Memorial
Day
I,
don't
I
myself,
don't
spend
it
at
barbecues
and
at
the
beach,
and
there
is
no
celebration.
It's
it's
a
day
of
remembrance,
just
as
every
day
should
be,
but
this
is
the
National
one.
You
know
I,
don't
know
what
inspired
me.
I
Maybe
it
was
councilman
Vieira
with
his
love
for
Vietnam
veterans
and
veterans
in
general,
but
last
year
I
started
visiting
local
cemeteries,
specifically
where
my
grandfather's
at
and
I
started,
noting.
Where
are
looking
for
Vietnam
soldiers
that
were
killed.
Why
Vietnam?
Because,
as
you
said,
things
have
changed
but
back
then
you
know
soldiers
were
coming
back
being
spit
on
called
baby
killers
on
and
on
and
these
soldiers,
although
they
gave
all
for
their
country,
they
never
got
that
they
never
got
that
that
that
honor
and
remembrance
and
respect
that
they
deserve
after
giving
everything.
I
I
There's
you
know
you
see
that
they
they're
overgrown,
you
know,
but
it
you
know
to
stop
buying
and
clean
it
leave
a
flag,
leave
a
flower,
something
to
know
that
you
know
50
years
later,
people
are
still
remembering
thanking
them
honoring.
What
Memorial
is
Memorial
Day
is,
you
know
the
sacrifice
and
the
pain
and
everything
that
you've
gone
through.
We
will
never
know,
but
but
we
are
grateful
as
as
a
nation,
as
a
council,
I
hope.
I've
often
said
what
am
I.
The
biggest
regrets
is
not
serving
September
11th
happened.
I
E
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
service
to
our
country
and
thank
all
the
service
personnel
fourth
day
done
for
what
they
have
done
for
our
country,
more
especially
the
family
members,
with
the
sacrifices
they
have
made,
not
only
during
but
after
the
term
of
service,
I
think
General
Patton
said
it
best
for
Memorial
Day.
We
should
not
mourn
the
loss
but
praise
them
for
living.
Thank
you
for
everything.
You've
done
you
very
much.
M
H
M
D
What
is
it
on
Sunday
at
10:00
a.m.
at
the
301,
the
Veterans
Memorial
Park
Philibert,
there's
going
to
be
a
Memorial
Day
commemoration
of
the
Monday
here
at
the
American
Legion
said
at
11:00
on
on
West
Kennedy
there's
going
to
be
another
one,
so
just
in
case
if
anybody
wants
to
come.
So.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
A
Thinking
about
a
recent
article
that
was
in
the
paper
that
talked
about
the
chief
having
to
investigate
10
disciplines,
six
as
honor
rate,
one
and
three
was
terminated,
and
then
we
asked
the
chief
in
his
investigation
in
terms
of
the
three
officers
that
had
to
be
terminated
and
the
crimes
that
it
commits
against
people
of
color.
All
of
the
defendants
was
black
and
I
wondered
if
he's
three
officers
just
learn
that
bad
behavior,
because
I
could
tell
you
since
1970
the
war
on
drugs
have
been
real
as
it
relates
to
the
African
community.
A
It
was
declared
against
the
community
and
we
have
seen
a
in
a
blouse
life,
whether
it's
been
burying
people
in
the
cemetery
of
heaven,
fathers,
grandfathers,
uncles,
whomever,
is
stuffed
in
these
prisons
and
we
still
dealing
with
it.
A
second
issue
this
morning
is
that
I'm
still
in
concerned
about
the
100
million
dollars
that
was
minted
in
the
paper
that
jeff
vinik
received
and
redevelopment
our
community
with
just
something
we
like
to
know:
how
was
he
able
to
acquire?
That
is
a
special
grant?
A
What
is
it
that
district
5
East
Tampa
can
do
to
garnish
that
type
of
grant,
so
we
can
transform
our
community
and
how
do
we
get
the
information?
Do
we
come
to
you
and
ask
you
specifically
to
investigate
for
us,
or
do
we
follow
the
new
mandates
that
the
mayor
has
given
you
that
you
have
to
jump
five
hoops
before
you
can
answer
the
cry
of
the
community
we
want
to
know:
is
the
arena
part
of
district
5?
A
What
was
special
about
what's
happening
there
when
we
continue
to
lay
out
that
if
our
community
can
have
an
economic
uplift,
we
can
transform
our
community.
We
want
to
see
real
progress
for
district
5.
We
don't
plan
on
waiting
for
the
next
four
year
election
cycle
that
it
becomes
talking
points.
We
want
to
see
immediate
action,
so
our
children
can
have
a
future
that
we
don't
have
to
keep
on
burning
the
same
issues
every
week.
Thank
you.
Thank.
O
O
The
city
is
supposed
to
be
a
transparent
place
for
the
public
and,
if
you're
saying
that
you
want
to
know
this,
you
should
be
able
to
provide
that
with
you,
and
maybe
the
budget
office
miss
little
who
handles
our
money.
I
see
our
folks
would
be
able
to
provide
you.
If
that's
the
case,
if
we
gave
someone
that
kind
of
money
or
incentives,
so
I
suggest
that
you
contact
our
office
and
I
also
make
a
call
to
her
office
as
well.
To
inquire
about
that,
thank
you
for
your
concern.
Thank.
L
First
came
before
Stevie
Council
this
past
January,
due
to
a
640
square
foot,
unpermitted
unpermitted
skating
structure
built
by
my
neighbor
25
feet
away
from
my
back
door,
five
feet
away
from
my
pool.
Another
neighbor
and
myself
spoke
with
the
property
owner
at
1012,
East
Robson
Street,
about
our
concerns
due
to
the
skate
ramp
multiple
times,
only
to
be
told
he's
gonna
do
whatever
he
wants
on
his
property
I
even
offered
to
help
him
relocate
the
ramp
to
the
other
side
of
his
yard,
and
he
said
he
doesn't
want
to
see
it
from
his
bedroom.
L
This
structure
was
built
without
a
permit
and
no
regard
to
the
adjacent
properties
or
setback
requirements
established
by
the
city.
The
structure
was
built
with
what
his
what
this
neighbor
deemed
as
sound
enhancements,
such
as
embossed
plywood,
how
so
pipes
pole
coping
but
mostly
out
of
plywood
with
unenclosed
ends,
which
made
the
structure
a
giant
amplifier
I
have
recorded
decibel
levels
as
high
as
116
from
my
property
line
and
74
from
within
my
home.
L
L
Additionally,
due
to
the
weight
and
rainwater
runoff
from
the
skating
structure,
his
retaining
wall
is
now
leaning
up
against
our
privacy
wall,
making
it
lean.
It
is
our
understanding
from
the
city
that
the
now
failing
retaining
wall
is
an
issue
we
need
to
deal
with
in
a
civil
action.
I
come
before
City
Council
I
came
before
City
Council,
the
first
time
asking
for
specific
ordinances
and
regulations
in
regard
to
these
skating
structures.
I
believe
people
have
the
right
to
enjoy
the
hobbies
in
the
privacy
of
their
own
backyard,
however,
not
at
the
expense
of
others.
L
Not
only
does
it
directly
affect
our
privacy
and
ability
to
enjoy
the
tranquility
of
our
own
yard,
but
is
detrimental
to
the
mark
ability
of
our
home,
although
the
ramp
was
partially
dismantled.
Thanks
to
zoning
enforcement,
the
ramp
continues
to
direct
all
rainwater
into
his
retaining
wall,
furthering
the
damage
to
both
his
retaining
wall
and
my
property.
The
property
owner
has
now
received
a
temporary
permit
to
rebuild
the
structure
based
on
a
faulty
engineering
report,
which
is
found
legally
sufficient
for
an
investigation
by
the
Florida
Board
of
Engineers.
L
You
thank
you.
However.
He
has
all
intentions
of
converting
this
permit
into
a
permanent
structure,
all
the
damage
that
this
structure
has
created
to
our
property.
All
the
sound
of
the
structure
creates
over
legal
limits.
All
the
privacy
loss
that
we
previously
experienced
will
now
be
built
again
now
only
three
to
five
feet.
Further
from
the
previous
location,
today,
I
come
before
the
new
City
Council,
asking
again
for
specific
ordinances
that
address
these
structures.
Additionally,
I'm
asking
again
for
a
stay
on
this
permit
due
to
the
faulty
engineer
drawings.
L
Until
new
regulations
can
be
established,
we
have
ordinance
for
everything
else,
but
not
for
skating
structures.
A
few
simple
ordinances,
25-foot
property
line
setback
requirement,
100
feet,
minimum
setback
from
an
occupied
structure,
concrete
construction
requirements
to
eliminate
most
of
the
sound
associated
with
the
instructors
and
so
on.
Tampa
has
spent
millions
of
dollars
on
skate
parks
throughout
the
city,
yet
failed
to
protect
owners
from
potential
nuisances
that
these
structures
create
for
residential
homeowners,
more
more
skating
structures
are
being
built
and
it
needs
to
be
a
brushed.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
I
I
I
I
C
Stoney
planning
development.
There
are
several
skate
structures,
but,
unlike
this
one
that
mr.
mrs.
hatch
had
next
door
to
them,
they
have
all
gone
through
very
extensive,
permit,
review
and
and
setbacks
the
the
neighbors
that,
but
the
other
approved
skate
structures.
We
haven't
heard
from
them
in
the
sense.
In
essence,
in
my
opinion,
aber
he's
been
very
disregard.
Mr.
hatches,
what
he
said
is
absolutely
true.
You
know
tried
to
contact
him
and
be
reasonable,
and
things
like
that
and
the
neighbor
has
dug
in
and
basically
has
just
shined
him
on
and
said.
C
You
know,
leave
me
alone,
I'm
gonna,
I
want
to
do
an
etc
the
retaining
wall
issue,
it's
starting
to
fall
and
in
terms
of
the
structural
integrity
of
that
retaining
wall
as
they
as
it
starts
to
get
inspected.
If,
if
it's
determined
that
the
plans
that
he
turned
in
show
the
water
going
to
the
front
of
his
property
as
it's
per
code,
if
when
we
go
out
there,
when
we
look
at
it-
and
we
determined
that
it's
not,
and
it's
exactly,
as
mr.
C
But
in
terms
of
what
this
structure
was
built
without
permits,
we
cited
him
for
triple
fee
permit.
We
review,
we
reviewed
it
as
an
accessory
structure
as
how
we
have
reviewed.
All
of
the
others
has
to
me
to
assess
restructure
setback
switches
that
minimum
met
said
three
feet
from
the
rear
and
the
side
yard
is
treated
like
that,
and
so
we've
done
what
we
could
from
a
legal
perspective.
He
did
apply
for
a
temporary
structure.
He
had
to
take
it
down
and
he's
also.
Mr.
hatch
is
also
correct.
C
I
I
fully
expect
for
him
to
file
for
a
permanent
structure
when
that
time
comes,
and
we
will
review
it
in
terms
of
the
engineering
drawings.
I
am
NOT
an
engineer.
I
I
can't
really
read.
You
know
the
calculus
that
goes
into
some
of
these
things,
but
the
gentleman
that
it
did
this
review
is
an
engineer
and,
and
he
found
it
too,
you
know
that
it.
The
report
was
an
engineer
drawing
that
we
accepted.
So
if
there's
a
challenge
to
that,
it
has
been
submitted
to
the
state
and
they've
agreed
to
investigate
it.
C
C
Recreational
type
structures,
as
this
you
certainly
you
have
the
ability
to
do
that.
You're,
the
legislative
body.
The
code
is
the
legislative
document.
You
could
do
that.
I
will
say
if,
if
you
take
something
like
a
hundred
foot
setback
from
a
residence
you're
in
effect
prohibiting
them,
you
know
on
all,
but
somebody
who
has
a
one
acre
lot
somewhere
anywhere
in
the
RS
fifty
sixty
seventy
five
districts
and
either
commercial
districts
that
also
allow
for
residential
uses.
C
You
would
in
effect
be
prohibiting
them
and
completely
and
I
would
have
to
confer
with
legal
as
to
something
like
that
to
see,
if
that's
a
route
that
you
know,
we
would
even
would
like
you
to
consider
that,
but
you
certainly
can
come
up
with
code
requirements
or
look
at
them
like
you
do
for
several
things.
Different
kinds
of
you
know
coming
up
later
on
you're
talking
about
the
code
for
porches
and
how
to
treat
them
a
certain
way
so
as
to
make
them
easier
to
enjoy
and
to
build
around
the
city.
C
J
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
Tom,
not
really
a
question
for
Tom,
maybe
first
for
our
city
attorney,
the
I
was
once
looking
at
a
house.
It
was
across
the
street
from
a
city
park
and
I
thought
wow.
Wouldn't
that
be
really
nice
to
be
across
the
street
from
the
city
park
and
then
I
sat
there
at
the
house
inside
the
house,
and
there
was
a
skateboard
part
there
and
that
noise
was
driving
me
crazy
and
I
ran
away
from
potentially
buying
that
house
so
fast,
because
it's
not
just
a
half-hour
of
it.
J
J
J
Look
at
a
moratorium,
while
the
potential
ordinance
is
pending,
because
when
we
go
to
amend
our
our
zoning
code,
it
can
take
what
three
to
six
months,
because
an
ESCO
Planning
Commission
ball
of
law.
But
in
the
interim
we
could
have
a
moratorium
if
we
feel
it's
important
enough
to
make
sure
that
that
there's,
no
proliferation
of
you
know
of
these
types
of
things.
N
J
B
B
B
L
O
Would
concur
mr.
Dean
fair,
the
end
council
mementos
calculi
mean
that
would
be
a
nuisance,
I
hate
to
say
that.
But
you
look
at
the
way
that
fence.
Is
you
tell
my
skateboarding,
you
tell
my
people
out
in
their
own
backyard,
their
own
private
events,
and
you
know
that's
the
me
as
I
can
be
in
your
privacy,
guys
with
no
skateboard
think
they're
going
way
up
in
here.
You.
L
O
M
A
legal
question:
if
we
pass
some
new
rules,
would
they
be
retroactive
to
existing
structures?
No,
sir?
No!
So
the
so
setting
that
aside
for
a
second,
it's
not
based
on
what
they
said,
there
are
some
codes
that
are
being
broken
now
with
the
sound
or
other
issues,
can't
can't
code
enforcement
or
somebody
do
something
about
the
sound.
M
D
J
Medina
felt
I'm,
sorry
and
I
was
thinking
about
that
too
mr.
Karlson,
without
going
into
the
details.
Much
because
we
don't
have
they
have
this
quoted
down
the
road
in
some
court
cases,
but
I
think
that,
because
there
was
no
permit
originally
there's
a
temporary
permit
now
and
maybe
there's
a
in
the
future,
there's
a
permanent
permit.
What
I'm
saying
is,
if
there's
a
moratorium
in
place
quickly,
then
that
could
catch
the
catch
any
skateboard,
that's
not
hasn't
been
properly
permitted.
Perhaps
this
one
I
don't
know
the
details
about
this
one
at
all.
J
D
I
This
is
a
ridiculous
question,
but
how
do
you
get
this
specific
one
dismantled
because
of
considering
the
circumstances
they're
sitting
on
there
Spence
looking
over
their
property?
The
noise
is
ridiculous.
You
can
see
that
it's
Hollow
and
the
noise
of
skateboard
wheels
on
plywood
or
whatever
the
material
I
think
is
plywood.
How
do
you
live
like
that?
I'm,
a
very
patient
person
and
I.
Look
the
other
way
and
I
tend
to
ignore
things,
but
this
would
drive
me
nuts,
especially
considering
at
the
end
of
the
day.
I
B
Mora
legal
department
there
are
pending
cases
on
this:
there
are
enforcement
actions
being
taken
by
the
city.
We
are
aware
of
this
problem,
it
is
being
addressed
and
the
individual
enforcement
of
this
case
has
to
follow
our
standard
rules
and
procedures.
We
can't
make
up
new
rules
just
for
these
people,
but
they
the.
B
E
Q
D
I'm
and
I'm
sorry
for
all
the
trouble.
I
know
this
is
a
whatever
statement,
but
that
you
all
I
mean
you
guys
took
time
out
of
your
Thursday
to
come
down
here
to
City
Council,
to
seek
some
relief
from
us
and
what
I'm
looking
at
I
mean
so
y'all's
only
remedy
presently
is
to
call
TPD.
So
that
means
you've
got
to
be
on
edge,
wait
for
them
to
start
call
TPB
and
then
you're
aggravated
in
your
days,
ruined
I'm
that
that's
terrible
I
mean
can.
Can
we
send
a
letter
to
this
guy?
Not
that
I.
Q
L
D
J
You
asked
for
a
motion
I'd
like
to
make
one
I'd,
like
staff
and
legal,
to
come
back.
June
6
with
a
options
and
I
won't
go
into
detail,
but
you've
heard
some
banging
around
here
today
to
to
address
this
on
a
short-term
basis
and
a
long-term
basis,
and-
and
mr.
Shelby
advises
me
that
perhaps
moratorium
as
this
is
not
a
great
term
of
art
but
there,
but
there
might
be
an
alternative
way
of
approaching
it
with
the
same
in
the
same
effect.
J
J
Staff
reports,
and
also,
if
we
slip
in
apparently
miss
Coyle,
is
here
on
a
cycle
of
or
of
of
zoning
code
changes,
and
if
we
can
slip
that
in
into
this
cycle
and
send
it
over
to
the
Planning
Commission
sooner
than
later,
then
then
we
won't
miss
out
on
three
or
six
months.
Whatever
the
cycle
is,
okay
in.
M
G
Planning
design
and
development
coordination
I
just
wanted
to
advise
Council,
it's
codified,
that
we
have
two
cycles
per
year
for
code
amendments.
So
this
would,
if
you
made
a
motion
to
actually
do
something
to
tell
it
directed
me
to
make
the
change
to
the
code.
It
would
fall
into
the
July
cycle,
which
we
could
process
as
quickly
as
possible
to
process
in
batches.
We
could
process
it
before
the
end
of
the
year,
probably
by
some
temporary
October,
basically
great.
G
D
M
D
D
J
You
Sal
mr.
Ito,
so
what
I
was
asking
for
when
we
had
this
last
discussion
with
mr.
Shelby
and
I
had
discussed
it
was:
is
there
any
case
law?
Is
there
any
ordinance?
Is
there
any
statute?
Is
there
any
federal
constitutional
provision
that
would
demand
the
to
man
that,
because,
in
some
of
our
discussions
we
say
this
is
our
meeting.
J
J
R
There's
no
case
law
statue
on
point
with
what
you're
dealing
was
a
due
process
issue
right.
If
someone
has
met
all
the
standards
and
they
bring
this
before
you
they're
entitled
to
have
a
decision
before
any
group
that
come
before
and
the
consensus
of
all
the
attorneys
we've
talked
to.
Are
it's
a
due
process,
issues
of
the
constitutional
issue
and
they
are
entitled
to
have
a
vote
if
you're
not
satisfied
with
what
they've?
Given
you,
your
option
is
obvious.
You
can
say
you
can
vote
no,
but
continuing.
It
is
an
issue.
J
B
B
I
Right,
we
will
anybody
else
for
a
public
comment
at
this
time.
No
all
right.
Moving
on
from
that
we
go
to
workshop
item
number,
for
this
workshop
item
is
about
a
creation
of
a
citizen
traffic
advisory
committee.
This
was
a
motion
that
I
had
made
several
months
ago,
and
it
was
brought
to
my
attention
by
mrs.
Jim
keyboards
of
the
old
Seminole
Heights
neighborhood
association,
and
the
idea
was
of
a
creation
of
a
new
board.
It
would
be
a
sunshine
board,
titled
or
a
potential
title:
a
citizen's
transportation
advisory
board.
I
Basically
certain
numbers,
certain
members,
certain
amount
of
members
representing
all
parts
of
the
city,
so
it
would
be
you
know:
South
Tampa,
West,
Tampa,
East
Tampa
and
an
advisory
group
that
would
essentially
make
recommendations
to
our
Transportation
Department.
Regarding,
for
example,
let's
say
you
know
the
South
Tampa
individual,
you
know
we
have
road,
repaving
x',
that
that
have
been
neglected
or
should
be
looked
at
or
prioritized
sidewalks,
sidewalk
repairs,
new
sidewalks,
speeding,
traffic
traffic,
calming
issues,
stop
signs
or
four-way
stops
where
they
were
lacking
and
whatnot
just
to
get
a
basis
of
it.
I
Q
R
The
structure
that
I've
seen
is
someone
that
we
can't
use
the
way
they've
had
their
pyramid
built
up,
they're,
looking
to
be
oversight
for
the
administration
for
the
Planning
Commission
for
everybody
else.
That
is
not
appropriate
for
the
how
we
operate
here.
Your
oversight
you're
the
ones
that
are
sitting
here
to
oversee
what
the
administration
does.
We
can't
substitute
your
oversight
for
someone
else's
there's
perfectly
within
their
rights.
R
If
they
want
to
set
up
a
committee,
they
want
to
give
advice,
they
want
to
give
all
kinds
of
documentation,
they
can
make
public
records
requests
with
the
documentation
they
want,
but
the
structure
that
I've
seen
in
their
PowerPoint
presentation
is
one
that
doesn't
fall
within
our
Charter
and
within
the
jurisdiction
that
you
have
to
what
the
administration
has.
They
can't
be
overseeing
the
administration.
That
is
a
separate
function.
It's
a
structural
issue.
Anybody
can
put
any
committee,
they
want
together
and
give
advice.
R
I
No,
how
I
look
at
this
pyramid
they're
at
the
bottom,
at
the
citizens,
transportation,
Advisory
Board
we
submitted
the
the
PowerPoint
prove
one
but
yeah
you
have
it
there.
The
independent
oversight
committee,
I
believe,
is
in
regards
to
the
carbon
from
offer
transportation
and
that's
the
Camino.
That's
the
the
sales
surtax
that
was
approved
there
at
the
bottom,
basically
like
when
you
have
the
MPO,
they
have
the
CAC
and
the
CAC
meets
and
they
make
their
recommendations
and
they
submit
it.
I
You
know-
or
they
present
it
to
the
board
and
say
you
know
we
don't
like
line-item
this
or
this
project
you
removed
or
added.
That's
it.
They
don't
have
anymore,
they
don't
control
funding,
they
don't
control
what
projects
get
in
and
out.
It's
just
simply
opinion.
So
I,
don't
know
if
you,
if
you
misunderstood,
that
the
independent
Oversight
Committee
is,
is
that's
what
all
for
transportation,
so
they
would
be
at
the
bottom
and
they
would
give
their
recommendations
to
staff.
You
know
present
to
City
Council
and
then
it
would.
I
You
know
it's
up
to
miss
Duncan
and
the
Transportation
Department
to
say:
okay,
you
know
we
see
a
demand
here
or
maybe
we
could
prioritize
this
or
you
know,
because
you
know
council
approves
or
we
you
know
she
makes
the
decisions
and
whatnot
and
we
put
the
requestion,
but
that's
it.
It's
simply
an
advisory
board.
Giving
an
opinion
is.
I
Like
like,
we
like
we've
established
boards
in
the
United
Charter
Review
Commission,
or
we
have
the
budget
Advisory
Council,
something
like
that.
They
come
before
us
and
they
say
you
know.
These
are
some
of
the
points
that
we
like
to
look
at.
You
know
put
forth
in
the
in
the
next
budget
or
so,
but
to
answer
more,
the
questions
are
mr.
Tim
keyboards
here.
If
he
could
come
up
and
just
give
a
brief
description
on
this.
D
And
and
if
I
may
before,
that
I
mean
just
to
kind
of
second,
what
council
Maniscalco
said
I
when
I
saw
this
I
thought
this
was
an
awesome
idea:
I'm
a
hundred
percent
behind
it.
If,
if
it
is
used
like
the
budget
advisory
board,
that
we
rely
upon
a
lot
for
advice
on
where
this
is
a
board
that
would
be
charged
with
the
not
with
the
ten
commandments,
but
with
the
ten
suggestions
so
to
speak.
So
III
think
it's
weird
idea,
but
that's
kind
of
how
I
see
it
go
answer.
S
Good
morning
Council
Tim
keyboards
I
resided
for
East
Idlewild
Avenue
I
happen
to
be
the
president
of
the
old
sunlights
Neighborhood
Association.
Also
the
vice-president
Heights
urban
core
chamber,
this
concept.
If
we
could
pull
it
up
on
the
screen-
and
this
is
actually
the
last
slide,
this
concept
sort
of
came
out
of
a
number
of
meetings.
Unfortunately,
the
incident
last
year
that
happened
on
Bayshore
with
the
two
individuals
were
killed
in
the
speeding
incident
has
happened
throughout
the
city
that
got
a
lot
of
attention.
S
What
has
happened
is
you've
had
individuals
like
myself,
other
Neighborhood,
Association
presidents,
individual
citizens
come
before
you
and
ask
for
immediate
action
going
to
miss
Duncan's
office,
working
with
William
poor
working
with
the
police
department,
but
they're
all
sort
of
one-off
type
situations.
Sometimes
we
get
immediate
action.
A
four-way
stop
gets
put
in
on
Idlewild
in
Hampton
terrorists.
We
get
a
new
stop
sign,
put
at
violate
a
number
of
you
during
the
campaign
season
stood
there
with
us
as
citizens
holding
up
the
vision,
zero
signs.
You
know
we
live
here.
Our
children
live
here.
I
S
I
S
Again,
just
to
the
point
that
was
made
if
I
first
came
up,
the
IOC
is
part
of
the
all
for
transportation.
It's
one
percent
that
goes
out
of
that
funding.
That
board
already
exists.
Of
course,
we
know
there's
a
lawsuit,
we're
standing
by
on
the
agency's,
whether
that's
F,
dot
or
city
of
Tampa,
putting
in
improvements
clearly
the
mayor
and
that
should
say
City
Council
right
below
it.
You
are
the
oversight,
you
are
the
decision-makers
to
staff
below
you,
but
what
we're
finding
is
is
we
have
one-off
meetings
and
the
infirm
then
falls
apart.
S
S
It's
this
Heights
traffic
awareness
campaign
and
the
idea
behind
that
was
holding
those
vision,
zero
signs
going
to
the
same
intersection
for
six
weeks
in
a
row,
we've
created
a
process
that
could
be
exported
to
any
place
in
the
city,
so
you
all
represent
different
portions
of
the
city
that
can
be
exported
to
South,
Tampa
or
East
Tampa.
We've
got
a
small
group
of
citizens
that
are
willing
to
show
that
area
how
we
did
it
and
how
we
were
able
to
influence
the
process.
S
You've
got
sidewalks,
Stoppers
you've
got
other
citizen
coalition's
by
bringing
all
of
that
information
into
a
regularly
and
well-established
board
or
whatever
you
all
want
to
call.
It
it'll
allow
us
to
then
bubble
those
inputs
up
to
the
planning
staffs.
We
would
ask
that
somebody
from
stormwater
transportation
and
a
TPD
officer
be
assigned
to
that
board
to
provide
professional
input,
but
allow
us
to
then
bring
that
into
the
city
staff
and
then
to
the
board
and.
A
J
Had
some
concerns
jurisdictionally
that
we,
you
know
and
chances
are,
as
mr.
chairman
pointed
out,
you
know
we
could.
Mr.
Maniscalco,
we
could
establish
this
very
similar
to
the
budget
advisory
board
that
we
have.
That
would
respond
to
us.
I,
don't
think
we
can
expand
our
jurisdiction
to
allow
or
to
tell
this
board
okay,
you
can
contact
county
planners.
You
can
go
to
directly
to
Jeanne
Duncan
and
tell
her
what
to
do
and
bla
bla
bla
I
think
we
we
stray
from
our
jurisdiction
and
our
our
ability,
but
I'm.
J
You
know
I'm
intrigued
by
the
notion,
regardless
of
the
offic
transportation,
money.
I,
think
it's
probably
it.
We
all
get
a
lot
of
calls
about
traffic
and
transportation
more
and
more
as
traffic
gets
worse
and
worse
and
and
I
think
for
it
to
have
an
established
sand
board
as
a
place
to
kind
of
hash
out.
These
issues
is
a
good
idea
structurally
mr.
Maniscalco,
mr.
chairman
I,
think
it'd
be
easier
and
simpler.
If
we
all
just
picked
one
person.
Yes,
because
that
way
we
don't
have
to
get
into
you
know
voting
and.
I
D
M
Think,
like
my
colleagues
here,
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
Tim
and
other
activists
on
transportation,
neighbor
issues
and
it's
a
high
priority
for
all
of
us.
I
think
the
challenge
for
City
Council
is
what
influence
do
we
have
over
it,
and
and-
and
I
think
the
challenge
with
a
committee
like
this-
is
what
will
we
be
able
to
do
as
city
council
with
their
recommendations
and
you
all
have
been
here
longer
made
no
better
than
I.
M
M
Number
two
is
that
ultimately,
the
planners
and
the
staff
have
to
have
to
develop
these
plans.
There's
ad
hoc
requests
and
complaints
that
we're
getting
every
day,
but
but
if
we
look
at
that
possibility
for
the
all
four
chance
what
we
can
do
with
all
four
transportation
money,
because
the
lawsuit
some
things
are
delayed
right
now,
but
there
is
an
opportunity
where
there's
money
to
do
to
do.
Visioning
and
and
I
think
that
it
would
be
a
good
idea
for
City
Council
to
have
some
input
into
that
process.
M
M
We
all
talked
about
that
a
lot
over
the
last
few
months
and
the
sidewalk
budget
is
going
to
go
up
exponentially
and
we
we
don't
have
a
plan
for
it.
The
staff
wants
to
create
a
plan.
The
money
is
being
held
back
for
to
a
certain
extent,
but
to
the
extent
that
we
can
maybe
give
input
into
the
sidewalk
visioning
process
and
then
ultimately,
beyond
that
a
cycling,
visioning
process
and
then
and
then
beyond
that
you
know,
buses
are
rail
or
whatever
that
there
could
be
specific
input
that
could
be
implemented
right
away.
M
Sidewalks
are
something
that's
happening
right
now
and
hopefully,
as
the
priorities
have
been
suggested,
starting
with
safe
routes
to
and
from
schools,
and
maybe
with
neighborhood
commercial
districts,
we
could
do
some
visioning
for
sidewalks
that
I,
don't
I,
don't
like
using
the
word
the
terms
Complete
Streets,
because
most
people
don't
understand
what
that
is.
But
if
you
look
at,
if
you
look
at
how
sidewalks
and
pedestrians
integrate
with
a
neighborhood
commercial
district,
it
could
really
transform
an
area
in
a
very
positive
way,
and
we
have
the
money
to
do
that.
M
E
You
chair
Kim,
thank
you
for
putting
up
the
the
amendment
to
your
plan
there
to
keep
both
branches
of
government,
the
city
happy,
the
mayor
and
the
executive
in
the
administrative
excuse
me,
the
executive
and
the
legislative
most
other
boards
do
have
two
appointees
by
the
mayor's
office.
However,
this
is
just
an
advisory
board.
It's
non-binding
non-committal.
I
would
still
like
to
see
mr.
chair
two
appointees
by
the
mayor.
E
O
S
That
on
your,
we
have
it
here
screen
so
again.
This
is
this
is
a
workshop,
so
certainly
modifications
appropriate
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
the
right
title:
citizens,
transportation,
advisory
board
committee,
whatever
the
right
term
is
that's
appropriate.
We
do
have
the
budget
advisory
councils,
so
whatever
the
right
title
is,
but
my
additions
here,
representatives
from
Tampa,
City
Council
for
so
for
the
three
at-large
the
mayor
would
be
selecting
somebody
since
she
lives
in
the
urban
environment.
S
Maybe
that's
perfect
for
the
mayor
to
select
that
individual
and
in
one
chair
that
way,
you
have
your
nine
citizens
again,
it
is
input
up.
It
is
just
input
so
working
with
the
professional
staff
providing
ideas
working
with
citizens.
Groups
like
citizen
groups
like
the
sidewalk
stompers.
Another
point
that
I'd
like
to
bring
up
I
learned
is
that
cafe
con
Tampa.
Several
weeks
ago,
the
planner
that
is
responsible
for
sidewalks
that
came
from
the
county
said
that
she
is
working
off
of
a
$600,000
sidewalk
budget.
The
offer
transportations
moving
that
to
six
million
dollars.
S
She
does
not
have
a
plan,
so
I'm
not
merging
her
by
any
means,
because
why
would
you
plan
for
something?
A
few
years
ago,
when
you
didn't
know
your
budget
was
going
to
get
a
tenfold
increase,
we
need
input
to
identify
where
we
need
those
sidewalks.
That's
just
a
small
example
so
allow
the
citizens
to
bubble
that
information
up
we're
not
certainly
demanding
anything,
we're
not
driving
the
Train
we're
just
providing
input.
Thank.
I
Is
this
is
really
a
wonderful
thing
that
is
needed?
You
know
my
office
gets
calls
or
I
get
people
that
stop
me
in
a
coffee
shop
or
on
the
street
or
in
a
neighborhood
association
meeting
saying
what
are
you
gonna
do
this?
What
are
you
gonna
do
this?
If
we
can
condense
all
that
to
this
board
and
and
there
will
be
equity
and
I
like
what
councilman
Carlson
said
about
having
the
mayor?
Have
there
the
appointees,
because
we
want
to
create
a
partnership?
I
You
know
with
the
administration,
knowing
everybody's
voice
is
heard
and
as
we
appoint
one
of
you
know,
one
person
each
one
of
us
I
would
certainly
appoint
somebody
from
the
district
that
I
represent,
because,
of
course
it
makes
sense.
So
there
is
equity.
You
know
you
have
the
south
west
east
and
north
I
I
wasn't
here
when
the
budget
Advisory
Board
was
created
mr.
Shelby,
what
would
what
would
we
have
to
do
to
do?
I
P
R
I'd
appreciate
that
Sal
Torito
I
think
you're
getting
into
the
administrative
function
rather
than
your
legislative
function
as
a
legislature.
You
have
the
absolute
authority
to
set
up,
but
a
committee
of
you
want
and
choose
members
you
want
putting
the
mayor
on
there.
It
gets
very
close
to
getting
over
the
line.
What's
gonna
happen
here
and
I
know.
People
don't
like
to
hear
this
in
some
of
the
newer
councilmembers,
especially
don't
like
to
hear
these
things.
The
mayor
sets
the
policies
on
those
kinds
of
projects.
R
You
have
absolute
right
to
turn
them
down
when
they
come
to
you,
but
you
can't
be
involved
in
the
property
preparation.
You
can
be
advised
by
anyone.
You
want
if
you
set
up
a
committee
that
is
within
your
jurisdiction
to
do
that
they
could
advise
you
or
anything
you
want
putting
the
mayor
in
here,
I
think
crosses
the
line
on
mixing
the
administrative
and
the
legislative
functions
that
you
have.
R
So
what
I'm
getting
I'm
recommending
to
you
that,
if
you
set
a
committee
up,
do
not
include
anyone
from
the
mayor's
staff
on
that
I
mean
sorry.
The
mayor's
show
choice.
This
is
your
committee
and
you
should
keep
it
clearly,
distinct
between
the
administrative
and
the
judicial
I'm.
Sorry
in
the
legislative
branch
and.
I
I
and
I
appreciate
that
I
remember
was
here
for
the
the
police
review
board.
I
know
there
was,
you
know
some
issues,
the
mayor
and
the
council
whatnot.
So
we
can
avoid
that
and
make
this
a
strictly
City
Council
committee,
where
we
appoint
the
people
and
then
the
committee.
You
know
you
elect
your
chair
or
whatever
at
that
point
ours,
our
representative,
that
would
come
before
council
and
say
you
know,
these
are
the
recommendations
we
have
and
what
I
mean
we
can
do.
That
is
what
you're
saying.
R
Yes,
and
the
other
thing
is
that
I,
don't
I
don't
want
to
get
too
over
the
line
right
now
here,
but
the
administration
is
the
one
that
actually
prepares
the
plans
to
come
before
you
they're
gonna,
come
to
you
as
recommendations.
You
obviously
have
input,
because
you're
gonna
have
people
coming
up
your
internet
happy
with
this,
which
is
your
role.
If
they
come
to
you
with
contract
that
you
don't
like,
you
simply
turn
them
down.
R
So
really
the
administration
is
the
one
that
has
to
spearhead
the
process
with
your
input,
because
clearly,
if
you
don't
want
to
approve
something,
there's
going
to
be
a
compromise
made
and
the
way
that's
done
is
these
plans
have
brought
before
you
that's
strictly
an
administrative
function.
There
are
people
and
staff
right
now
that
are
coming
before
you
with
recommendations
on
how
things
should
move
forward.
You
have
the
budget
process
that
comes
up
it's
going
to
be
in
the
budget.
R
P
Yes,
if
I
could
just
follow
up
on
that
the
other
things
to
take
into
account
to
answer
your
question
question
upfront
is:
if
council
wishes
to
move
forward
on
this
is
to
give
me
several
weeks
time
to
be
able
to
work
with
the
city
attorney
to
be
able
to
come
up
with
some
recommendations.
There
are
a
lot
of
issues
that
need
to
be
addressed.
One
of
them
is
again
the
mr.
P
trudeau
alluded
to
it,
but
the
question
is:
to
what
degree
is
the
obligation
of
the
administration
and
frankly,
there
is
none
to
commit
staff
resources
to
this
committee,
because
it
is
an
issue
that
involves
staff.
They
are
not
obligated
to
participate
in
this
if
it's
a
burden
upon
them
and
they
have
tasks
that
they
have
to
do,
then,
then,
then
it
would
be
inappropriate
for
them
to
participate
if
they
were
unable
and
unwilling.
If
that's
the
mayor's
direction.
The
other
thing
is
a
mr.
P
P
Your
role
in
this
process
relative
to
transportation
as
a
result
of
the
transportation
service
passing,
will
create
an
obligation
of
this
board
to
give
the
capital
improvement
plans
greater
scrutiny,
because
all
of
this
is
going
to
show
its
way
through
the
five-year
plan
and
the
transportation
elements
of
the
capital
improvement
plan
as
they
come
come
online.
So
that
all
being
said,
the
final
thing
I
want
to
remind
you
counsel,
is
that
when
you
delegate
this
board,
you
create
a
sunshine
board.
P
Therefore
they
have
to
apply
a
compl
I
with
every
element
of
Florida
law
relative
to
sunshine.
That
would
be
notice
of
the
hearing
in
a
suitable
location
that
has
to
be
provided
to
them
that
complies
with
the
strictures
of
florida
statutes
and
the
case
law,
and
also
that
minutes
they've
taken.
And
you
know
that
you
have
relative
to
your
budget
committee.
It
is
an
undertaking
of
your
administrative
staff
that
allows
that
board
to
exist
and
to
support
it.
P
I
D
I
I
We
gave
you
I,
you
know,
I
mean,
of
course
the
board
would
have
to
agree
60
days
or
90
days
to
explore
this
and
see
how
it
can
be.
You
know
best
structured,
you
know
if
it's
the
best
way
to
take-
and
you
know
the
best
bet
the
best
path
to
get
to
take.
Would
that
be
okay
with
you,
I
mean
yes,
absolutely.
P
And
unless
this
any
other
direction,
that
council
wants
to
at
least
communicate
to
the
public
and
to
me
as
to
what
you're,
looking
for
I,
have
a
pretty
good
sense
of
what
council
wants
so
but
I'm
happy
to
take
individual
input
and
I'm
happy
to
work
with
with
options
you,
rather
than
just
coming
back
with
a
single
recommendation.
Thank.
M
It's
important
discussion,
you
know
philosophically
I
agree
with
all
y'all
I,
just
if
somebody
wants
to
get
results
and
you
know
expecting
what
mr.
treeger
was
going
to
say.
I
don't
want
to
set
up
something
that
that
raises
expectations
for
the
community
that
we
can't
do
anything
about.
We
don't
have
any
control
over
staff
and
we
can
give
ideas,
but
that's
really
the
mayor's
job,
and
you
know
separate
from
this
conversation.
M
I
did
have
a
discussion
with
the
mayor
about
sidewalks
and,
and
she
asked
me
to
just
be
patient
and
let
the
let
her
work
with
staff
and
I
said
great
yeah
I
think
it's
great
important
to
get
public
input,
but
but
if
it,
if
it
can't
go
anywhere,
then
then
it
will
feel
like
a
big
waste
of
time.
If
we
do
do
something
point
number
two:
if
we
do
do
something,
I
would
recommend
I,
don't
know
the
structure
in
city
council,
but
on
other
boards
I
said
on.
M
We
can
set
up
task
forces
that
are
a
limited
period
of
time,
three
months
or
six
months,
but
it's,
but
it
would
be
interesting
as
a
test-case
to
set
up
a
limited
time
period
task
force
that
would
study
one
piece
of
it,
maybe
sidewalks
and
get
input
and
see
how
we
can
work
with
the
administration
and
if
we
can,
if
it,
if
it,
if
it
produces
collaborative
ideas,
to
work
with
the
administration,
then
we
could
decide
to
expand
it
beyond
that.
But
then
it
would
set
expectations.
M
M
The
problem
in
the
last
few
years,
with
all
governments,
but
in
particular
in
Tampa,
is
that
as
they've
done,
public
works
projects,
mm-hmm
they've,
cut
the
budget
on
public
involvement,
and
so
a
big
part
of
the
complaints
that
we
get
are
people
who
say
that
they
haven't
been
noticed
that
something's
happening
in
their
in
their
neighborhood
and
sometimes
they
have
in
it.
They
didn't
see
it,
but
there
should
be
more
public
engagement.
The
way
you
avoid
issues
like
beta
Bay,
which
was
in
my
district,
is
having
more
public
meetings
than
having
more
public
discussions.
M
The
the
fight
that
ended
up
with
beta
Bay
was
completely
unnecessary.
Had
we
had
a
bigger
public
engagement
budget
on
it
and
had
had
city
staff
meeting
with
the
neighborhood's
now,
with
the
offer
transportation
money
we'll
have
the
money
and
resources
for
the
staff
to
do
that,
we
just
it
may
be
his
Duncan
or
someone
could
come
back
to
us
with
advice
on
on
how
to
how
to
set
that
up.
What
I've
seen
happen
with
governments
is
that
people
who
believe
in
engaging
the
public
will
spend
money
on
it.
M
J
For
mrs.
Duncan,
his
name's
Ben,
you
mentioned
16
times
and
and
we
haven't,
we
haven't
heard
from
her
and
I'd
like
to
when
I,
when
I
get
done.
If
that's
okay
with
mr.
chairman
just
to
see
if
she
has
any
input
on
this
she's
been
sitting
patiently,
number
two
is,
with
all
due
respect
to
mr.
torito's
comments.
I
can
see
where
sounds
coming
from
in
regard
to
that.
J
It's
cleaner,
perhaps
if
it's
just
a
council,
7
councilmember,
however
out
of
sort
of
politeness
or
in
the
spirit
of
cooperation,
as
somebody
said,
I
would
like
to
perhaps
council
to
give
that
option
to
the
administration
of
way.
If
they'd
like
to
appoint
to
two
general
members,
not
a
chair
but
two
general
members
to
add
to
add
to
our
seven
and
if
the
administration
obviously
would
legal
sanction
is
comfortable.
You
know
or
would
like
to
do
that
then
maybe
we
would
include
that
in
in
our
in
our
proposal.
R
J
R
R
We
don't
the
only
one
that
I'm
aware
of
is
the
is
the
police
oversight
when
that
was
done
to
a
fairly
heavy
negotiation,
whether
the
mayor's
gonna
set
it
up.
Whether
the
council
is
gonna
set
it
up.
If
you
want
to
go
that
way,
be
my
guest,
that's
going
to
be
a
long,
drawn-out
process,
and
let
me
just
give
some
background
for
some
of
the
members
who
haven't
been
here
within
the
past.
The
budget
Advisory
Committee
is
probably
the
best
example.
What
has
happened
in
the
past
before
the
budget
was
approved?
R
The
budget
Advisory
Committee
after
doing
all
of
their
research
would
come
to
City
Council
with
a
recommendation
and
I
can
tell
you
that
probably
90%
of
their
recommendations
were
accepted
by
the
administration.
There
were
good
recommendations
to
people
on
these
committees
were
very
good
at
what
they
did.
They
work
at
this
for
a
whole
year
at
a
time
when
they
come
back
before
the
council
and
they
made
their
presentation
first
to
council
to
brief
them
on
that.
R
What
they
wanted
to
see
done
and
if
it
hadn't
happened
on
that
budget
by
the
next
budget,
almost
all
of
their
recommendations
were
approved.
So
you
do
have
I'm
not
trying
to
dissuade
you
from
anything,
but
there
that
input
does
have
an
impact
on
the
administration's
functions
as
well.
Right
do
we
they
do
listen,
which.
J
Is
exact
which
is
yes
and
that's
that's
how
I
see
us
modeling
this
in
the
same
way
that
it's
it's
not
set
up
for
you
know
just
to
you
know,
for
a
month
or
two,
it's
a
long-term
commitment
from
any
members
like
that.
But
again,
and
maybe
you
and
I
are
just
differing
legally
just
because
the
mayor
might
appoint
these
two
individuals
to
add
to
our
seven
doesn't
give
them
any
additional
authority
doesn't
give
those
two
people.
J
Any
additional
access
doesn't
commit
the
mayor
or
the
administration
to
X
Y
&
Z,
it's
just
or
you
know
it's
just
two
additional
people,
but
you
do
what
you
have
to
do
I'm
just
saying
out
of
politeness.
That
would
be
my
suggestion
and
then,
as
a
follow-up,
I'd
love
to
hear
from
his
Duncan.
She
has
anything
to
add
to
any
of
this
discussion.
Mr.
chair,
it's
up
to
you.
Oh.
O
J
O
Right:
okay,
all
right:
okay,
good!
You
keep
that
I
still
have
a
problem
with
this
urban
and
a
chair.
You've
got
each
one
important,
a
member,
then
we
want
to
put
a
chair
through
their
discussions
and
your
points
here.
But
just
saying
this
part
is
gonna,
be
a
chair.
I!
Think
you
yeah,
you
just
do
a
lot
of
damage
to
that
yeah.
Q
Good
morning,
City
Council,
we
certainly
want
to
have
good,
solid
public
engagement
with
our
citizens.
Now
that
we
have
this
great
opportunity
to
have
all
this
additional
funding
for
projects,
I
think
it
is
more
interested
in
now,
because
there
is
more
money
to
spend
currently
the
way
things
work.
Is
you
I'm
sure
someone
aware
of
we
have
projects
that
are
corridor
projects
such
as
Silla
mention
beta
Bay?
You
know
big
projects
that
we
have
a
public
meeting
on
that
project.
Q
We
go
out
and
engage
with
the
public
on
that
particular
roadway
and
take
that
input
and
weave
it
into
the
technical
aspects
of
make
some
decisions.
We
also
have
what
we
call
program
categories,
which
is
sidewalks
streetlights,
paving
that
are
not
as
sophisticated
as
the
roadway
projects
where
we
come
up
with
a
list
of
locations
based
on,
for
example,
with
paving
it's
based
on
the
pavement
condition.
We
don't
want
roads
to
get
to
dilapidated
and
have
to
go
rebuild
the
entire
road
base.
So
we
have
a
technical
process.
Q
We
use
determine
how
to
prioritize
the
needs
for
certain
things,
such
as
sidewalks,
paving
and
streetlights.
In
the
case
of
streetlights,
we're
using
accident
data
crime
information
in
the
case
of
paving
we're
using
the
pavement
condition
of
the
roadways
and
in
the
case
of
sidewalks
we're
looking
at
connectivity
of
our
collector
roads
and
our
schools
to
make
sure
we
have
a
good
network
of
connectivity
for
the
area.
Q
So
I'm
hopeful
that
you
know,
we've
got
a
transition
team
coming
in
to
kind
of
look
at
city
processes,
I'm
hopeful
that
we
can
look
at
our
public
engagement,
how
that's
set
up
and
determine
what's
a
good,
thoughtful
way
to
move
forward
with
our
new
monies
to
take
the
input
in
as
well
as
the
other
criteria
we
have
to
use
as
well
as
coordinating
you
know
a
lot
of
times.
The
timing
of
our
project
depends
on
the
fact
that
the
water
or
the
wastewater
department
is
doing
a
big
project.
Q
So
the
timing
shifts
because
of
those
factors
so
there's
a
lot
of
dynamics
to
come
in
that
come
into
play
in
determining
what
the
priorities
are,
but
certainly
the
public
input.
Is
it
important
part
of
that?
It's
just
one
of
many
factors
that
we're
looking
at
so
I
would
look
forward
to
talking
with
the
administration
about
what
would
be
a
good
way
to
have
some
kind
of
structured
process
going
forward.
I
know,
for
example,
in
st.
Pete,
they
have
a
bicycle
safety
action
committee.
Q
If
we
can
call
it
whatever
name,
we
want
to
call
it,
but
they
have
a
good
model
over
there
for
their
program
categories.
How
people
can
weigh
in
on
sidewalks
and
paving
in
streetlights?
Then
they
have
another
program
for
the
actual,
bigger
projects
that
have
a
standalone
meeting
for
that
project.
So
I
think
we
can
work
something
out.
We're
definitely
interested
in
getting
public
input
on
all
the
work
that
we're
doing.
We
do
have
a
backlog
of
locations
we
already
know,
or
we
need
to
go
out
and
jump
out
and
start
doing
some
work.
Q
So
there's
not.
We
want
to
get
this
set
up
with
some
good
public
engagement
but
sir,
that
money
becomes
available,
we'll
be
out
we'll,
be
able
to
go
out
and
start
working
in
many
areas,
because
we
already
know
where
the
needs
are.
We've
just
been
waiting
for
the
opportunity
for
the
money
to
come
belong.
So
that's
just
sort
of
my
philosophical
view
on
this,
and
you
know
we're
happy
to
try
to
move
forward
in
a
role
productive
way
and,
like
mr.
Q
D
Anyone
else
and
if
I
may
just
for
for
my
comments,
I
mean
this
is
something
that
I
was
very
supportive
of
so
so
your
Neighborhood
Association
then
brought
this
forward
or
created
this
idea.
I
guess
if
you
will
no.
D
B
B
D
D
S
And
just
what
can
we
do
in
a
long-term
fashion,
working
with
miss
Duncan's
office
because
again
the
Bayshore
incident?
There
were
about
eight
neighborhood
associations,
we
all
met,
we've
met
one
more
time
and
then
interest
sort
of
wane.
Unfortunately,
so
this
would
be
a
structure
where
you
would
have
continuity.
D
I
and
but
I
just
wanted
to
salute
you
for
the
the
genesis
of
this
and
council
minutes,
calcio
I
think
it's
a
great
thing.
I
think
when
voters
approved
offer
transportation
or
message
to
elected
officials
was
just
a
back-to-basics
approach
which
is
look
potholes,
bicycle
and
pedestrian
safety
things
as
basic
as
sidewalks.
You
know
repaving
streets,
etc.
D
Let's
start
to
invest
in
these
issues
and
we're
willing
to
pay
more
money
for
it,
and
that's
I
think
their
message
to
us
so
I
think
it
would
really
behoove
us
to
have
a
an
engagement
type
of
board
like
this
I
think.
When
I
look
at
the
members
of
council,
we
have
very
ambitious
members
who
are
new,
who
won
and
the
ones
where
we're
returning
myself
included,
want
to
roll
up
our
sleeves
and
and
work
really
hard,
and
this
is
an
effort
that
would
really
help
to
do
that.
D
If
we
can't
get
appointments
from
the
mayor
and
we
decide
to
have
seven
I
think
that
would
be
great,
which
is
to
have
one
from
each
council.
Member
I
was
looking
at
it
last
night
and
I
thought
that
I
I
agree
with
Councilman
Goods
that
picking
council
picking
a
chair
just
kind
of
gives
it
like
us.
You
know
I,
don't
know
Soviet
satellite
type
of
you
know
a
type
of
influence.
I,
don't
want
that.
Obviously
you
know
I
I
would
have
liked
and
I
don't
think
we
can
potentially
be
a
minimal
to
this.
D
But
to
see
somebody
I
know
that
there
was
a
reference
to
the
word
urban
there
and
there
was
some
vagueness
as
to
that,
but
also
to
see
someone
from
the
special
needs.
Community
I'm,
the
chair
of
the
transportation
disadvantage
committee
with
the
MPO,
and
you
know,
I
think
it
is
about
70%
of
people
with
intellectual
disabilities.
Don't
have
a
job
we
have
about
one
in
nine
people
here
in
Hillsborough
County
who
have
a
disability
of
some
sort.
D
You
talked
to
folks
whether
it's
autism
developments
and
disability
cerebral
palsy,
whether
they're
blind,
whether
they're
suffering
from
an
ankle
fracture
or
whatever
it
may
be
disabilities
and
transportation
I
mean
I,
always
tell
people
the
reason
why
I
champion
vet
various
transportation
related
endeavors
in
my
public
career.
We
have
this
debate
not
so
that
a
lawyer
living
in
Hunters
green
can
cut
down
his
commute
from
50
minutes
to
40
minutes
and
God
bless
that
lawyer
living
in
hundreds
green,
but
rather
because
of
that
single
mom.
D
You
know
raising
kids
as
a
CNA
looking
at
cutting
her
commute,
so
she
could
spend
more
time
at
work
more
time
with
her
kids,
etc
and
I
think
that
disability
goes
a
hundred
and
ten
percent
in
this
I
see
the
is
a
resource
for
City
Council,
a
resource
for
us
to
use
as
much
or
as
little
as
we
want.
We
can
meet
with
our
members.
We
can
meet
with
with
individuals
just
like
the
CAC
with
the
NPO.
The
board
would
be
very
different
than
I
think
from
what
the
NPO
does
we're.
D
Looking
at
suggestions
over
here
and
I
also
hope
and
I
know.
We
all
agree
with
this
that
we
also
have
a
board
that
reflects
the
diversity
of
our
city,
a
hundred
and
ten
percent,
where
we're
looking
back
towards
our
neighborhoods,
and
we
have
to
look
for
pluralism
and
diversity
in
that
regard.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Councilman
citrus.
E
Mr.
chair
I'm,
sorry,
you
all
miss
him.
Do
you
always
have
lots?
Work
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
City
Attorney's
comments
that
this
is
going
to
have
to
apply
with
the
sunshine
laws
and
councilman
Goods
and
Councilman
Carlson.
We
discussed
and
I
hope
you
remembered
that
on
the
Charter
Review
Commission
we
have
planned
for
the
next
trial,
Review
Commission
to
come
up
and
the
transparency
be
the
key.
We
have
fiduciary
responsibilities
which
have
been
brought
up
in
the
last
month
that
hopefully,
this
advisory
board
will
have
the
place
to
meet.
E
I
I
O
D
I
appreciate
councilman,
boobs,
I
think
that's
great.
We
we
have
many
people
here,
I
mean
I
I
I'm,
not
saying
we
would
appoint
her,
but
I
can't
help,
but
to
think
of
a
woman
that
we
all
know
and
love
a
lot
Karen
clay,
you
know
and
just
think
about
what
she
brings
to
the
table
and
her
son
Michael's.
So
so
thank
you
for
that.
Thank
you.
Do
we
have
a
second
second?
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
by
Councilman
dyscalculia,
second,
by
Councilman
citral,
all
in.
I
D
A
G
My
castle
Catherine
oil,
rezoning
administrator
for
the
city,
I
apologize
I'm
a
little
simply
what
you
have
before
you
is
the
January
text,
amendment
cycle
and
there's
only
a
couple:
amendments
that
we're
asking
for
transmission
of
council
so
desires
to
the
Planning
Commission,
just
as
quick
reference
for
those
of
you
that
are
new
the
process.
As
I
mentioned
earlier
in
a
previous
public
comment
portion
there's
two
cycles
per
year.
G
We
come
for
in
a
workshop
to
discuss
the
amendments,
whether
they're,
privately
initiated
for
an
outside
party
to
amend,
chapter
27
or
they're,
publicly
initiated
by
the
Zoning
Administrator,
or
something
that
the
City
Council
directs
us
to
put
into
the
amendment
amendment
cycle.
We
come
forward
with
that
package.
Council
waves
goes
through
the
amendments
I'm
here
to
discuss
them
with
you.
G
Legal
departments
always
hear
answer
any
legal
questions
or
issues
you
that
you
may
have,
and
then
it's
your
discretion
on
the
publicly
initiated
amendments,
whether
or
not
to
transmit
them
to
the
Planning
Commission
for
recommendation
at
a
public
hearing
or
to
continue
certain
ones
to
another
workshop,
to
discuss
more,
to
get
more
feedback
to
simply
table
them
or
withdraw
them,
remove
them
from
the
cycle,
because
you
don't
want
to
move
forward
with
them
and
not
transmit
them
on
the
privately
initiated
amendments
which
we
don't
have
any
in
this
cycle.
Those
are
amendments
again.
G
A
third
party
outside
the
city
has
paid
filing
fee
and
made
application
to
amendment
code.
So
if
those
come
forward,
those
do
need
to
be
transmitted.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
clear
to
you
right
up
front
so
next
cycle
there
could
very
well
be
privately
initiated
amendments.
I'll
present
them.
We
can
discuss
them.
The
applicant
will
be
here.
G
So
that's
just
a
general
cycle,
so
each
or
the
general
process,
each
one
I'll
remind
you
of
those
steps
and
then
I'll
typically
lay
out
your
options
of
what
you
can
do
with
which
motions
you
can
follow.
Whether
or
not
you
want
to
transmit
and
staff
will
always
be
here
to
help
you
through
the
the
amendments
so
really
quickly.
These
are
all
publicly
initiated.
So
these
are
completely
your
discretion.
What
you'd
like
to
do
with
them?
G
The
first
one
a
minute
number
one
on
page,
one
of
the
two-page
sheets,
if
we
sent
through
this
actually
was
a
City
Council
in
the
shaitaan'
amendment.
It
was
at
the
June
7th
agenda
last
year
and
I
included
an
excerpt
of
the
transcript.
The
discussion
with
staff
at
that
point
was
about
the
10-acre
requirement
because,
on
the
kennels
small
and
large
there's
a
limit
on
animals
in
table
6-1
which
were
changing
to
82
point
25,
there's
a
limit
on
the
small
kennels
and
those
small
kennels
are
in
general
commercial
districts.
G
So
those
are
the
general
commercial
districts
that
are
really
kind
of
everywhere
in
the
city
back
up
against
a
lot
of
neighborhoods.
All
the
ranges
of
commercial
activities
can
happen,
just
not
intense
commercials.
You
can't
build
cabinets,
you
can't
have
semi
light
manufacturing
and
commercial
general,
but
you
can
have
all
types
of
retail
and
other
services,
those
properties,
those
zoning
districts
are
allowed
11
to
20
animals
for
small
kennels,
the
provision
in
the
in
the
table
the
one
additional
acre
per
every
ten
animals.
G
That
was
a
carryover
from
when
this
was
amended
several
years
back
from
the
old
provision
in
chapter
19.
At
that
time,
that
particular
council
didn't
have
any
desire
to
change
the
10
acre
record
or
that
one
acre
for
10
animals.
This
was
brought
up
like
I,
said
several
months
back
and
the
the
idea
from
council
was
to
actually
make
that
change,
because
it
is
difficult
for
these
doggie
daycare
facilities
that
are
popping
up
everywhere
to
post
more
animals,
they're
stuck
at
that
small
amount
and
we
don't
regulate
necessarily
the
size
of
animals.
G
That's
not
really
within
our
control,
but
you
can
certainly
see
that
maybe
25
little
tiny
dogs
versus
25,
big
dogs,
there's
room
for
different
things
and
properties
are
different
sizes.
So
this
came
up
in
conversation
to
make
that
change.
So
we
went
ahead
and
made
that
change.
The
other
changes
that
you
see
really
are
structural
to
the
table.
The
table
itself
is
tabled
6-1
in
the
code
and
if
you
notice,
on
page
2,
the
next
section
of
code
for
large
kennels
also
is
table
6-1.
G
So
it's
a
renumber
in
to
match
up
with
a
suction
number,
we've
had
comments
on
the
code
enforcement
side
with
the
legal
representative
there
that
he
would
like
to
see
letter,
references
and
number
references.
That's
why
we
labeled
each
column
with
an
A,
B
and
C.
So
it's
easier
to
cite
and
code
enforcement
citations
for
Notice
purposes,
and
this
is
a
general
cleanup
of
the
requirements
under
specific
standards
so
that
when
there's
general
requirements,
meeting
Florida,
Game
and
Fish
Florida
game
and
freshwater
fish,
commission
regulations
and
so
on
that
they're,
all
just
simply
footnotes.
G
So
the
tabor
table
at
Duns
gets
more
condensed
and
more
clear
to
read
page
two
large
kennel
same
structural
changes.
The
removal
in
the
center
of
the
kind
of
the
middle
line
of
the
table
and
the
specific
standards
is
the
removal
of
the
1a,
a
cur
per
10
animals
which
council
directed
on
the
large
kennels.
Those
are
the
ones
that
are
only
going
to
be
allowed
in
the
commercial,
intensive
districts
and
industrial
districts.
G
D
J
G
J
J
G
J
G
Can
see
on
the
cg
properties
if
you
can
picture
all
the
corridors
that
we
have
in
the
city
with
commercial
general,
along
dale,
dale,
mabry
and
south
Tambor,
for
instance
its
commercial
general
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
the
little
old
strip
centers,
the
properties
are
not
very
deep.
They
go
into
renovate
a
portion
of
that
building
to
put
in
a
doggy
daycare
and
they're
only
allowed
they
can
fit
toy
animals
and
what
they
have
with
a
little
area
they
have
outside.
G
Maybe
they
take
over
a
bigger
portion
of
the
building
because
they
don't
have
to
necessarily
have
outdoors
face
for
all
of
them.
At
the
same
time,
they
can
go
in
and
out
with
different
groups
of
animals.
Now
they
take
over
a
larger
area
and
they
can
physically
fit
more
animals
based
on
the
county
and
state
regulations.
G
But
our
rule
says
you
have
to
have
an
additional
acre
just
to
add
one
more
animal
above
20,
so
they're
kind
of
stuck
and
I
think
that
was
the
issue
that
was
raised
is
some
of
the
doggy
daycare
is
especially
on
tighter
areas
and
smaller
corridors
or
there's
building
room
for
them
to
have
it
to
retrofit
these
buildings.
There
is
no
land
available
to
meet
that
provision,
and
so
they're
stopped
and
that's
what
the
previous
council
was
discussing,
taking
away
as
that
provision.
So.
G
Really
a
landish,
it's
the
quantity
of
land,
it's
whether
it's
indoor
or
outdoor,
there's
no
additional
land
to
have
that
acreage
to
support
more
animals
for
this
provision
alone.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
whether
or
not
they
can
actually
keep
the
animals
physically
by
the
county
and
state
rules.
We
just
have
this
provision
that
you
have
to
have
extra
land
for
more
animals,
really
for
no
reason
other
than
that's
the
old
rule
that
we
read
so.
G
J
G
J
20
is
the
threshold
and
how
does
that
relate
to
the
industry
practices
yeah?
That's.
G
J
A
G
G
See
what
you're
saying
you
know?
That's
a
good
question.
This
provision
come
to
think
of
it.
This
provision
is
there,
but
the
limit
is
20.
That
was
the
question
that
we
had
for
council
is
how
many
sorry
I
had
a
circle
longer,
but
that
was
the
question
we
had
for.
Council
is
what
the
length:
what
is
the
limit?
What
would
you
liked
it
long
do.
J
F
J
Isn't
the
drop-off
and
pickup
right?
So
if
you
get
too
many,
maybe
I
don't
care
what's
actually
happening
in
that
building,
but
in
terms
of
drop-off
and
pickup
you
might
it
might
you
know
if
you
have
50
or
a
hundred,
then
all
sudden,
maybe
you
got
people
lining
up.
You
know
two
for
a
drop-off
and
pickup,
which
is
not
what
that
neighborhood
wants.
Yeah.
G
The
parking
the
parking
ratio
is
definitely
go
along
with
that
use
of
they'd
have
to
accommodate
more
parking.
There
is
a
limit
because
the
lands
are
the
space
is
limited
to
add
more
parking.
Even
so,
they
can
only
get
so
many
parking
spaces
on
those
properties
anyway,
and
that
would
then
kind
of
limit
how
big
it
can
be,
which
then
restricts
the
number
of
is.
J
G
G
That,
typically,
is
your
vet
offices,
and
those
large
kennels
are
like
the
ones
on
Kennedy
are
actually
the
more
intense
zoning
district,
so
those
are
fine,
it's
just
that
they
are
allowed
to
have
more
than
ten,
but
they'd
have
to
have
an
extra
acre
of
land,
and
it's
very
hard
like
on
Kennedy,
to
find
extra
acres
of
land.
Just
because
of
that
rule
that's
zoned
commercial,
we're
constrained
by
the
the
corridors
we
have
in
the
land
that
we
have
so
council
believe
it
was
just
easier
to
get
rid
of
that
provision
for
extra
acre
cuz.
A
You
honey
does
see
if
I
can
understand
the
whole
ramification
regarding
zonings.
What
kind
of
zoning
do
they
need
regarding
sand
within
that
areas,
various
capabilities
that
people
use
to
to
leave
their
dogs
somewhere,
especially
when
they
go
on
vacation?
They
might
be
for
a
week
or
10
days.
They
may
have
one
two
or
three
or
four
dogs
or
five
cats
and
four
dogs,
and
regarding
grooming
in
a
grooming
area,
I'm
salon
I'm,
never
taking
my
dog
through
the
grooming,
because
I
don't
have
one
right
now.
A
G
In
the
zoning
world,
we
don't
control
the
plumbing
issues
or
the
the
Health
Department
certifications
for
sanitation
or
sewer
requirements
or
anything.
Those
are
all
other
regulations.
We
don't
have
any
regulations
for
training
or
how
much
area
they
have
to
have
to
train
or
what
type
of
certain
types
of
certifications.
All
of
that
is
left
to
the
underlying
county
and
state
regulation.
G
A
I
O
G
But
if
they
don't
have
enough
area
to
actually
do
it
in
the
building
or
the
outdoor
pins,
then
they
can
only
achieve
a
certain
portion
of
that
if
they
have
enough
area
for
enough
space
for
outdoor
pens
and
for
inside
and
they
can
achieve
whatever
cap
you
set,
then
that
would
actually
be
okay
because
they
meet
those
standards.
It's
like
for
daycares,
four
kids,
you're
allowed
I
think
it's
30
or
35
square
feet
per
kid.
You
have
to
have
indoor
outdoor
and
you
have
to
back
into
that
number
properties
are
only
so
big.
G
O
G
Well,
we
don't
regulate
that.
That's
at
the
county
level
throughout
the
services-
yes
mm-hmm,
so
those
inspections
happen
there.
We
would
be
inspecting
code
enforcement
wise
to
see
if
they
exceed
the
cap
for
our
purposes.
So
maybe
our
cap
is
20,
but
on
the
county
side
under
the
animal
services
rules
they
actually
can
fit
58
legally,
because
there's
enough
area
for
sanitation
purposes
and
dogs
Bay's
cat
space.
Whatever
else
it
is,
they
have
enough
physical
space
to
accommodate
58.
They
put
58
in
the
zoning.
The
city
controls
the
cap
for
use
purposes.
G
We
set
it
at
20,
that's
a
city
violation,
that's
a
code
enforcement
action,
then
the
complaint
from
the
owner
is
well
I'm
allowed
to
have
58
I've
got
enough
room,
they're
stuck
with
this
rule,
then
they
can't
make
up
land
because
there's
no
additional
land.
So
that's
that's
the
rub
essentially,
and
it's
really
because
we
don't
regulate
the
other
side
of
it.
We
don't
inspect
for
it.
We
don't
control
the
regulations
about
that
spacing
for
animals,
because
we
don't
do
that
work.
We
don't
inspect
for
animals
that
it's
not
a
roll.
G
G
Item
number
two,
amendment
two
on
page
two,
this
reads
pretty
straightforward:
this
is
to
deal
with
the
height
definition,
so
the
definition
of
height
right
now
in
the
code-
and
it's
been
this
way
for
decades,
probably
40
plus
years.
It's
the
vertical
distance
between
the
elevation,
the
mean
elevation
of
the
proposed
braid
at
the
structure
front.
So
now
you're
driving
down
the
street.
You
see
the
grade
at
that
front
of
the
house
or
the
building.
G
That
grade
is
the
dirt
and
we
set
a
maximum
height
above
that
and
that
height
is
to
the
peak
of
the
roof.
The
highest
point
of
the
structure.
That's
what
you're
allowed
to
build.
So,
whatever
your
dirt
is
at
the
front
of
the
building
up
some
jurisdictions,
do
it
to
the
roof
line,
which
is
that
eve
line
some
jurisdictions?
Do
it
to
the
top?
It's
done
different
ways
in
different
places,
right
now,
the
way
that
it
is
with
the
FEMA
flood
maps-
and
this
is
the
geographic
I-
gave
you
as
an
example.
J
G
G
The
FEMA
flood
maps
are
changing
and
they're
pending
they're
gonna
come
any
time,
they've
gone
through
all
the
public
requirements,
public
hearings,
everything
else.
Our
staff
has
been
trained
or
following
plan
managers,
up-to-date
he's
spread
information
and
done
workshops
and
everything
else,
so
we're
just
waiting
for
the
final
announcement
to
say
implement
these
Maps.
G
What
that's
changing
if
you
notice
this
is
a
segment
of
Davis,
Islands
and
I.
We
pulled
this
one,
just
as
an
example
for
you,
anywhere
along
the
coastline
along
the
bay,
even
up
the
mouth
of
the
river
any
place
with
three
storms
anywhere
in
those
floodplains.
These
zones
exist
the
V
zones
or
velocity
zones.
Those
are
the
ones
that
are
going
to
be
impacted
more
by
wind
and
storm
surge
right
up
front
and
you're
gonna
have
a
higher
base.
Elevation.
That's
required.
G
You're
gonna
have
to
build
your
buildings
higher
for
your
finished
floor,
ultimately,
so
that
that
storm
that
wave
doesn't
come
and
just
hit
your
house
than
sitting
upgrades.
You
can
build
higher
there
yep
you
have
to
lift
it
up
so
the
velocity
zone
on
this
side.
This
is
the
current
map
we
have
right
now.
This
is
a
portion
of
Davis
Islands.
The
velocity
zone
is
right.
It
kinda
long,
the
edge
of
the
island.
G
G
Lakota
right
on
the
edge
right
there,
so
it's
just
off
the
edge.
It
covers
a
few
whole
houses.
Then
it
cuts
some
houses
in
half,
essentially
the
new
map,
and
this
is
coming
from
the
federal
level.
So
we
have
no
options.
This
is
what
it
is.
It's
10
feet
is
your
base.
Flood
elevation
and
the
Florida
Building
Code
has
a
design
flood
elevation
of
one
foot
above
the
base.
Flood
elevation
so
existing
grade
10
feet
above
is
the
base
flood
elevation
floor
building
code.
It
says
your
finished
floor
is
one
foot
above.
That's
your
design.
G
So
now
you're
11
feet
up
right.
The
new
map
is
changing
to
16.
So
now
it's
an
extra
six
feet
above
that
and
remember
if
you're
measuring
height
overall
height
in
our
zoning
districts
to
build
is
from
grade
and
now
I'm
taking
away
all
of
that
area
and
now
I'm
taking
another
six
feet
away
and
my
camp
is
35
feet
eating
into
that
building.
Obviously
this
is
changing
to
16,
so
it's
16,
plus
the
one
which
is
17
feet
and
the
AES
zone,
which
is
the
next
level
in,
is
changing
from
10
to
12.
G
This
is
one
of
the
graphics,
though
most
play
managers
shared
with
the
public
in
the
industry
and
and
uses
to
explain
it.
You
have
it
I
think
it
was
the
second
or
third
page
I
gave
you.
This
is
an
example
of
the
pier
system.
Essentially,
this
is
in
a
velocity
zone,
Davis
Islands
the
existing
grade.
Is
it
six
feet,
so
the
grade
isn't
zero.
Okay,
that
it's
the
number
of
feet
above
the
mean
sea
level,
so
sea
level
is
zero
greatest
six,
so
Dana
silence.
Portions
of
it
are
sitting
only
six
feet
above
the
water.
G
That's
out.
On
the
other
side,
you
start
your
measurement
for
building
height
at
the
grade.
The
way
we
regulate
it.
So
now
it's
35
feet
above
that
which
is
41
feet
above
grade
in
the
current
code,
as
I
mentioned,
and
then
the
current
maps,
it's
10
feet,
plus
the
wands
you're
eating
only
11
feet
in
which
would
put
you
at
17
from
41,
so
17
from
41,
and
the
current
rolls
you'd
be
left
with
30
feet
of
habitable
building
height
out
of
that
35.
G
G
Ultimately,
what
happens
if
we
stay
with
a
35
foot
height
limit
in
residential
districts
in
these
zones,
then
you're
reducing
what
builders
are
doing
now
is
that
30
feet
and
they're
able
to
put
in
two
storeys
with
comfortable
ceilings
essentially
and
they're,
also
able
to
have
pitch
throughs,
because
now,
there's
enough
run
to
have
a
rise,
because
we
measure
Heights
at
the
top,
the
very
top.
If
we
take
that
down
to
24
feet,
actually
it
take,
it
is
taken
down
to
24
feet
if
we
don't
adjust
the
dementia.
G
The
definition
that's
taken
down
to
24
feet
that
is
essentially
two
storeys
period
and
it
what
the
effect
is
essentially
all
flat
rooms
if
we
don't
change
the
definition
of
height.
So
this
is
the
policy
decision
ultimately,
for
council
is
whether
to
keep
the
definition
of
height
the
same
way.
We
do
it
today
from
grade
to
the
top
or,
if
we're
gonna,
make
an
adjustment
and
start
measuring
height
from
the
required
finished
floor,
because
this
this
is
being
done
to
them.
G
Essentially
the
additional
height
or
the
additional
elevation
is
being
done
to
us,
because
the
floodplain
changes,
the
question
for
Council
is
whether
or
not
we
want
to
absorb
that
six
feet
and
allow
that
measurement
to
happen
from
here
or
if
we
want
to
keep
it
here.
That's
the
essence
of
this
definition.
Change
and
you
can
discuss
amongst
yourselves,
ask
additional
questions.
I
know
there
are
builders
and
some
people
in
the
audience
that
want
to
speak
as
well
and,
as
I
said,
Miss
Moore
is
here
to
discuss.
Also.
I
G
They
do
know
that
the
public
in
general
knows
about
the
FEMA
map
changes
and
what
that
does
like
I
said
the
flood
pain
manager,
they're
obligated
essentially
to
roll
this
stuff
out.
There's
been
a
lot
of
public
engagement
on
that
and,
as
far
as
I'm
aware,
everyone
realizes
it's
causing
and
then
trees
into
that
space.
So
what
does
it
ultimately
is
your
decision?
What
is
counsel
gonna
do
has.
M
G
The
code
amendment
itself:
no
not
this
particular
code,
amendment
no
well,
because,
ultimately,
if
you
transmit
it,
then
I
would
hold
a
bit
Baby
Bop,
because
this
is
truly
your
decision
at
this
point.
What
you
want
to
do
with
it,
if
you
do
move
forward
with
it,
I
would
have
a
public
information
workshop
with
people
to
discuss
it
and
go
through
the
options
and
hear
the
feedback
and
then
come
forward
to
you.
Then.
G
E
A
You
councilman
Miranda.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr.
chairman
and
boy,
it's
cool.
Thank
you
for
presentation.
We've
been
hearing
about
elevation
zones
rising
all
over
the
United
States
and
I.
Understand
no
metaphor:
it's
its
nature,
no
matter!
If
we
causing
it
no
matter
what
it
is,
it's
going
to
happen
from
what
we
see
in
the
records.
So
that
being
said,
we've
always
talked
only
about
the
elevation
of
the
structures,
and
my
concern
is
once
this
is
done
and
I
say
it
works.
G
A
A
Does
that
make
logical
sense
that
you
do
all
this
to
prepare
something
they
more
likely
it's
going
to
happen
and
you've
seen
things
that
are
happening
already
all
over
the
country,
and
especially
another
part,
the
world,
and
yet
we're
not
doing
anything
for
the
road.
So
I
tell
myself.
What's
the
idea
of
doing
this?
If
nothing
else,
you
can't
get
there.
J
Miranda
kind
of
scary,
when
you
and
I
start
thinking
like.
J
That
must
definitely
must
be
it,
but
mrs.
Cole
and
I
and
MS
Morra.
What
we're
meeting
a
little
while
ago
talking
about
these
issues
and
they
and
the
discussion
flowed
exactly
where
you're
talking
about.
In
terms
of
you
know,
the
the
buzzword
is
the
resiliency.
You
know
how
resilient
as
a
community
we
are,
and
what
are
we
doing
in
our
community
to
prepare
and
also
from
miss
Qualls
perspective?
What
can
we
do
with
our
zoning
codes
and
our
building
codes
to
address
some
of
these
issues
as
well?
J
Specifically,
you
know:
we've
always
allowed
builders
to
come
in
and
and
put
in
filth
to
get
to
a
certain
height.
Now
that
height
is
even
higher,
you
know.
So
can
they
continue
to
you
know
to
put
in
11
feet
of
fill
till
they
get
to
their
front
door,
or
is
there
a
better
approach,
not
only
from
that
individual
homeowners
perspective,
but
from
the
neighbors
perspective?
J
So,
and
that's
just
one
of
the
resiliency
issues
at
the
end
of
this
discussion,
I
just
wanted
to
throw
this
out
there
to
kind
of
point
out
that
you
know
we're
on
the
same
plane
and
I
know.
Other
council
members,
we
talked
about
resiliency
Indra,
quite
a
bit,
but
but
I'm
eventually
with
this
discussion,
is
over
specifically
I'm
gonna
make
a
motion
that
we
start
talking
and
work
shopping
resiliency.
G
Else,
thank
you
mean
you're.
Welcome
the
final
amendment,
amendment
number
three.
This
is
a
really
simple
one.
It's
simply
a
cleanup
of
the
section
reference
under
the
alcohol
regulations
for
expiration
of
suspension
of
permits.
It
did
refer
to
section
14
151,
for
excessive
noise.
That
code
has
changed
slightly
with
the
terms,
so
we
simply
reference
to
chapter
14
which
covers
it.
That
was
from
a
legal
department.
G
It
was
just
a
simple
cleanup,
so
after
you
hear
from
the
public,
I
would
simply
ask
you
to
make
a
decision
on
whether
or
not
you're
gonna
transmit,
as
is
each
amendment
or,
if
there's
any
tweaks,
that
you
would
like
to
make
that
you
would
make
a
motion
to
transmit
directing
what
those
changes
would
be
or
if
you
want
to
continue
any
of
the
amendments
to
another
time
to
discuss
more,
you
can
do
that
as
well.
Thank.
D
T
T
But
I
agree
with
miss
coral
I
think
you
need
to
transmit
to
get
the
process
started.
Otherwise
we'll
be
here
five
years
from
now
talking
about
it,
because
there's
a
lot
of
questions.
So
personally,
as
a
builder,
yes,
I'm
of
the
opinion
that
most
property
owners
who
spend
the
amount
of
money
that
they
have
to
spend
to
purchase
property
on
Davis
Island,
especially
a
waterfront
property,
would
not
be
happy
about
shrinking.
T
That
vertical
envelope,
okay,
so
if
nothing
else,
I
would
hope
that
if
FEMA
comes
up
whatever
that,
that
envelope
be
allowed
to
go
up
at
least
the
same
amount,
otherwise
you're
gonna
cause
a
pretty
significant
change
in
the
architectural
form
of
what's
gonna
be
built
and
I.
Think
we
all,
like
variety
I-
know
for
a
fact
that
the
stakeholders
on
Davis
Island
over
the
years
have
expressed
the
one
of
the
great
things
about
our
neighborhood
is
there's
a
lot
of
variety.
People
who
choose
to
live
on.
T
Davis
Island
are
not
the
same
people
who
choose
to
live
on
Harbor
Island:
they
don't
want
architectural
controls,
they
don't
want
homeowner
association
telling
them
how
to
you
know
how
to
live
in
their
homes
and
and
how
to
build
their
homes.
So
all
that
fits
in
with
the
plan,
but
I
agree.
There
needs
to
be
some
discussion
which
there
really
hasn't
been
yet
and
again.
This
is
all
relatively
new.
Fema's
have
been
coming
down
the
pike
for
years
now
it's
here-
and
this
is
probably
the
first
change.
T
I,
don't
know,
might
be
good
for
another
20
years.
Maybe
not
you
know,
we
just
don't
know
whether
you
believe
in
global
warming
or
not
rising.
Tides
are
here
to
stay
and
we've
seen
proof
even
on
Davis
Island
over
the
last
couple
of
summers
that
when
we
get
these
heavy
rains
at
high
tide,
the
water
has
no
place
to
go.
That
causes
the
street
beds
to
fail,
which
causes
potholes
that
everybody
complains
about,
and
they
don't
understand
why
the
city
won't
rush
back
and
fix
them
every
time
it
happens.
D
Thank
you,
sir.
If
you
guys
will
excuse
me,
I
have
to
there's
a
meeting
with
the
administration
that
I
have
to
go
to
for
something
with
my
district
that
I've
tried
to
push
back
that
it's
occurring,
so
I
have
to.
N
This
is
for
new
construction,
but
it
affects
all
of
the
FEMA
flood
maps
throughout
the
city.
This
is
not
a
Davis
Island
or
South
Tampa
issue.
This
is
a
citywide
issue
and
there
are
many
areas
within
the
east
half
a
district
that
are
in
the
in
a
flood
zone.
There
are
many
areas
all
along
the
river
going
all
the
way
up
through
Seminole
Heights
and
through
all
the
way
up
to
the
USF
area
that
are
in
flood
zones.
So
I
think
that
these
this
approach
is
in
a
universal
manner
is
effective
and
I.
N
Think
it
is
a
a
wise
approach,
because
what
it
basically
says
is
whatever
FEMA
tells
you
that
elevation
is
that's
where
you
start
measuring
from,
in
addition
to
the
the
one
foot
of
free
board
that
the
city
has
in
the
building
code,
so
it
doesn't
discriminate
anywhere
within
the
city.
It
says:
if
you
live
in
a
zone-
and
it
says
it's
it's
six
feet,
then
you
adjust
for
the
six
feet.
N
If
it
says
it's
10
feet
you
adjust
for
the
10
feet
or
the
1
foot
or
whatever
it
is,
but
I
think
one
of
the
mistakes
that
we
make
is
by
trying
to
identify
this
as
well.
This
is
a
South
Tampa
issue.
It
is
a
citywide
issue
and
if
you
don't
start
addressing
it
now,
then
you
run
the
risk
of
jeopardizing
your
flood
insurance
programs.
N
All
of
your
construction,
as
as
Gary
pointed
out,
you
end
up
with
very
expensive
properties
and
a
one-story
house,
and
that
would
be
true
anywhere,
not
just
in
South
Tampa,
not
Davis,
Island
or
anywhere
else.
So
I
think
that
would
I
would
request
that
you
vote
to
transmit
this.
There
will
be
plenty
of
discussion,
there
will
be
other
workshops
and
there
will
be
at
least
two
additional
public
hearings
to
come
forward
if
this
has
to
be
adjusted.
N
But
you
know
in
looking
at
it
I
think
that
is
a
smart
approach
to
say
whatever
FEMA
says,
the
elevation
is
that's
where
you
start
measuring
from,
as
opposed
to
trying
to
adjust
the
heights
of
all
your
zoning
districts,
your
maximum
Heights.
How
are
you
supposed
to
guess
what
they're
going
to
be?
You
would
have
differing
differing
Heights
all
throughout
the
city
and
then
I'm
not
sure
you
want
to
do
that
so
anyway.
I
would
respectfully
request
that
you
transmit
this.
As
you
know,
I
represent
a
number
of
builders.
N
I
J
I
think
a
little
bit
between
a
rock
and
a
hard
place
on
on
this
I
think,
as
mr.
Karlson
alluded
to
and
not
just
Davis
Island.
A
lot
of
neighborhoods
will
be
impacted
by
this
and
and
I
think
it's
gonna
be
a
rude
awakening
for
some
people,
because
right
now
it
appears
to
me
if
you,
if
you
add
the
35
feet,
plus
the
existing
11,
you
you
have
potentially
a
40
46
foot.
You
know
height
above
grade
at
the
peak
of
the
house,
I
misspoke,
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong
am
I
wrong
on.
N
G
J
E
G
A
H
G
J
J
My
point
being
is
is
for
that
neighbor
that
that's
across
the
street,
perhaps
not
necessarily
in
that
zone
or
whatever
their
their
in
their
existing
one-story
ranch
house
that
they've
been
in
for
30
years,
and
that
new
house
gets
built
across
the
street
on
the
seawall.
That
new
house
is
is
going
to
be
52
feet
above
sea
level.
It's
going
to
be
a
big,
a
big
tall,
large
structure,
a
very
high
structure,
higher
than
6
feet,
higher
than
what
it
was
before.
J
Potentially
with
that
said,
like
I
said
before,
there's
gonna
be
some
rude
awakenings
with
those
folks
who
are
impacted
like
that.
But
the
flip
side
is
from
a
fairness,
perspective
and
an
equity
perspective,
and
a
federal
government
perspective
I
think
we're
between
a
rock
and
a
hard
place
and
don't
have
a
lot
of
choice.
So,
if
I
ultimately
support
this,
that's
why.
I
M
A
B
I
A
Councilman
Moran
I'm
gonna
take
this
tuple,
as
my
we'll
make
it
forward.
Mr.
chairman
chairman,
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
have
a
scheduled
physical
year,
2020
budget
workshop
on
city
council,
regular
meeting
date
of
June
the
27th
and
further
request
a
city
clerk
to
schedule.
The
workshop
first,
all.
A
A
A
Mr.
Chairman
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
prepare
combination
for
the
Honorable
Fran
David.
She
is
the
League
of
Women
Voters
gilbert
county
2019,
the
lifetime
achievement
award
honoree.
The
combination
will
be
presented
to
14th
annual
life
time
achievement
award
luncheon
on
30th
of
May
at
2019.
A
Aye
Sherman
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
for
accommodation
to
Jane
and
Gary
Gibbons,
the
recipient
of
the
League
of
Women
Voters
Kenneth
Burke
County,
2019
Sidney
and
thalia
Potter
Civic
Leadership
Award.
The
accommodation
will
be
presented
on
the
14th
and
you're
like
team
and
award
luncheon
on
Thursday
May
30th
2019
I.
Second,
that
one.
P
A
P
No,
no,
no
I'm,
just
talking
about
I,
just
just
a
council
know
that
I
apologize
mr.
Miranda
because
of
the
council
break.
The
workshop
is
normally
scheduled
for
the
last
week
of
the
month,
June's
workshop
scheduled
for
June
20th,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
schedule
the
workshop
for
June.
It
was
the
correct
date
of
June,
20th
I,
don't
know.
If
that's
the
case,
it
might
have
been
something
I
misheard,
but
I'll
double-check
with
Mary
all
right.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
All.
A
I
I
J
Mr.
Jeff
Burton
I'd
like
to
to
move
for
a
commendation
to
miss
Cynthia,
Cindy
sarff,
who
was
unfortunately
decided
to
retire
from
service
to
this
city
council
and
to
this
councilman
and
the
council
woman
caffeine,
16
years
of
loyal
service.
She
she
claims
she
wants
to
move
back
north
to
Illinois
and
suffer
the
cold
up
there.
But
anyway,
we'll
look
at
June,
6
and
we'll
drag
or
drag
her
out
here.
Kicking
and.
I
Kept
accommodation
we
have
a
motion
from
councilman
Dean
photo
with
the
second
counts,
from
Miranda
all
in
favor.
All
right,
I
have
a
few
motions.
Do
I,
give
it
to
the
CRA
chair
or
the
immediate
pass.
Is
the
cieariy
what
a
view
all
right?
Thank
you
very
much
item
number
one:
I'd,
like
someone
from
staff
to
to
come
back,
June
6
on
your
reports
to
address
some
of
these
for
profit,
clothing
and
shoe
dropped
donation
sites.
We've
received
several
complaints.
I
They
are
scattered
throughout
my
district
because
they
become
dumping
grounds,
people
don't
just
leave
clothing
and
shoes
and
whatnot,
but
they're
leaving
furniture
and
mattresses
and
all
sorts
of
nonsense.
I
want
to
see
you
know
what
in
our
code,
what
in
our
policy,
we
have
to
help
regulate
this.
To
do
something
about
this.
You
know
just
just
to
get
some
information.
Okay,
all.
E
I
I
Then
final
item
is,
you
know:
I,
like
history,
Yong
Yong
will
hear
lots
of.
You
know
stories
of
the
past
from
me,
but
this
year
marks
30
years
that
we
renamed
buffalo
Avenue
to
Martin,
Luther,
King,
jr.
Boulevard,
and
actually
that
that
initial
vote
was
made
July
27th
of
1989.
We
don't
have
a
council
meeting
that
day
to
coincide
with
that
anniversary,
but
I've
noticed
that
throughout
the
country
there
have
been
designations
and
street
renaming
x'
bridge
renaming
for
former
President
Barack
Obama,
former
President
Obama
visited
Tampa
I
had
no
on
two
occasions.
I
I
If
there
are
any
thoughts,
any
ideas,
one
idea
that
I
had
maybe
this
won't
work
is
the
bridge
on
MLK
I,
call
it
the
buffalo
bridge
people
call
it
the
MLK
bridge,
maybe
that
that
cannot
be
done,
but
something
that
you
know
some
designation
that
we
can
give
from
an
honorary
standpoint.
We
did
it
most
recently
for
like
Monsignor
Higgins
on
Heinz
certain
stretch
of
road
we've
done
in
the
past,
and
that's
it
so
June
27th
for
Tom
Snelling
under
staff
reports.
Second,.