►
From YouTube: Variance Review Board 4-13-21
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
B
C
Welcome
to
the
public
hearing
for
the
variance
review
board
due
to
the
coveted
19
health
precautions.
Limited
attendance
is
permitted
in
city
council
chambers,
a
presenter
and
participant
waiting
area
has
been
established
on
the
second
floor
of
old
city
hall
for
your
safety
and
convenience.
Please
follow
the
instructions
below
during
your
visit.
All
individuals
are
required
to
wear
a
face
covering
at
all
times
during
your
visit
upon
entering
the
building
check
in
with
security
guard.
On
the
first
floor,
please
report
to
the
second
floor
waiting
area
staff.
C
Once
checked
in,
you
may
take
a
seat
until
your
case
is
ready
to
be
heard
in
order
of
the
agenda,
while
in
the
waiting
area,
please
maintain
social
distancing
protocols,
a
staff
member
will
advise
you
of
the
appropriate
time
to
proceed
to
council
chambers
on
the
third
floor
once
inside
council
chambers,
please
be
seated
in
the
audience
area.
Chairperson
will
review
the
hearing
procedures
and
you
will
be
sworn
in.
Then
the
review
of
your
case
will
commence.
C
Please
proceed
to
the
podium
to
present
your
case
and
please
note
that
the
podium
area
will
be
sanitized
between
speakers.
When
your
case
is
completed,
please
exit
council
chambers
and
proceed
to
the
building
exit.
Please
do
not
remain
in
the
third
floor
lobby
area
staff
will
be
directing
other
participants
to
council
chambers
and
wants
to
ensure
appropriate
distancing
is
maintained
if
you
have
questions
for
staff
following
the
conclusion
of
a
public
hearing,
please
contact
the
staff
member
during
regular
business
hours
since
the
enhanced
health
protocols
limit
their
availability
during
the
public
hearing
process.
C
E
C
Are
from
legal,
mr
mario
from
development
coordination,
mr
joel
sousa
from
natural
resources
not
present
and
from
transportation?
Mr
jonathan
scott
there's
some
procedural
full
rules.
You'll
need
to
follow
due
to
covet
19
pandemic.
Please
adhere
to
safe
social
distancing,
is
set
within
the
room
and
please
maintain
wearing
facial
mask
at
all
time.
When
your
case
number
and
petitioner's
name
is
called,
please
approach
the
podium
when
you
approach
the
podium,
please
state
your
name
address
and
if
you've
been
sworn
in,
the
petitioner
and
or
their
agent
will
have
10
minutes
to
make
a
presentation.
C
Please
make
sure
to
clearly
state
your
hardship
criteria
as
submitted
in
your
application.
All
other
persons
or
participants
wishing
to
speak,
will
have
three
minutes,
and
then
the
petitioner
have
an
additional
three
minutes
for
rebuttal
if
needed.
The
time
periods,
as
stated,
will
be
kept
by
the
board.
Any
information
such
as
pictures
or
plans
that
have
not
been
previously
submitted
as
part
of
your
petition,
and
you
intend
to
present
at
this
hearing
for
consideration
and
support
of
your
petition,
must
be
individually
presented
and
accepted
by
the
board.
C
The
board
bases
its
decision
on
competent,
substantial
evidence
which
is
presented
which
meets
the
criteria
required
by
the
city's
code
of
ordinances.
The
variants
granted
by
the
board
will
be
only
for
what
is
shown
on
the
site
plan
and
will
be
in
compliance
with
any
terms
and
conditions
stated
in
the
approval
by
the
board.
Although
the
city
codes
will
need
to
be
met,
if
the
case
is
approved,
your
variance
will
expire
two
years
from
the
date
of
decision.
C
If
the
case
is
denied,
you
may
wish
to
have
the
variance
review,
board's
decision
reviewed
or
appealed
by
city
council.
You
must
file
a
petition
for
review
for
the
board's
decision
within
10
business
days
of
the
written
decision.
You
will
not
be
able
to
pull
any
permits
until
after
10
days.
Review
period
has
passed
your
cooperation,
ensuring
that
this
meeting
is
run
smoothly,
is
greatly
appreciated.
E
C
G
Good
evening,
kamari.
C
G
Pettis
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
commissioners,
will
you
please
state
on
the
record
whether
or
not
you've
had
any
export
take
communications
regarding
any
of
the
items
that
are
listed
on
the
agenda.
H
G
H
Time
specific,
okay,
okay,
board,
joel,
where
you're
gonna
we
we
need
to
move
vrb
2127.
E
I
was
trying
to
write
them
all
down.
I
hope
I
got
them
right.
If
I
got
any
of
these
wrong
joel,
please
shout
it
out
sure.
But
yes,
sir,
I
would
move
that
we
moved
case
vrv
2127,
brb,
2136,
brb,
2139,
fbrb,
21.,.
G
Actually,
mr
feldman,
I'm
sorry,
mr
commissioner,
can
I
understand
that
you're
putting
the
vrb
case
number,
but
can
you
also
put
the
location
the
address
please
and
I
apologize
for
that.
E
E
In
addition,
I
moved
that
we
moved
vrb
21-36
located
at
4416
west
el
fato
avenue
that
we
move
vrb
2139
located
at
206,
south
moody
avenue
that
we
move
vrb
21-42
located
at
2102
west
cluster
avenue
and
that
we
move
brb
21-45
located
at
4705
west
leona
street
all
to
the
june
8th
2021
6
30
p.m.
Hearing
day.
C
A
I
G
Sheriff
you're
going
to
do
that
at
the
end,
can
we
please
have
a
motion
to
amend
the
agenda
to
move
the
elections
at
the
end.
D
And
make
a
motion
that
we
move
the
election
of
officers
to
the
end
of
the
agenda.
C
Most
certainly
rather
not
make
the
petitioners
wait
through
all
of
that.
Okay,
so
I
like
to
make
a
motion
to
move
that
thing
too,
move
the
june
agenda
to
the
end
of
the
end.
D
C
H
Yes,
sir
property
owner's,
anita
williams
and
also
the
agent
her
request
is
for
to
reduce
to
reduce
the
front
yard
setback
from
25
to
4
feet,
reduce
the
rear
yard
setback
from
20
to
5
feet
and
reduce
the
side
yard
setback
from
17
to
5
feet
and
increase
the
accessory
structure
from
900
to
1200
square
feet.
H
This
is
the
look
at
the
front
of
the
house.
It's
an
existing
older
home,
pretty
much
the
way
the
neighborhood
used
to
be
is
being
redeveloped.
Now
this
is
the
location.
This
is
down
off
south.
Tell
me
south
of
gandy.
H
H
H
H
Me
and
that
could
conclude
my
request.
One
thing
I
would
have
after
staff
reviewed.
J
H
To
the
to
the
front
porch
criteria
right
now,
the
the
four
feet
is
to
this
portion
right
here.
But
technically
now
you
are
allowed
to
go,
put
a
front
porch
by
right,
eight
feet
in
front
as
long
as
you're
not
past,
within
five
feet
of
their
front
property
line.
H
K
Great,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
for
serving
on
the
board,
we're
here
to
review
the
vrb
2021-14
and
we
are
requesting
four
items
of
variants
for
construction
for
additional
square
footage
of
a
single
family
resident
with
a
detached,
three-car
garage.
The
hardship
considerations.
I'd
like
you
to
consider
are
the
existing
pool,
which
reduce
the
available
living
space
by
just
under
two
feet,
to
bring
the
home
into
current
code
requirements
preventing
the
expansion
of
the
home
at
the
rear
of
the
property.
K
The
existing
grand
oak
to
the
east
of
the
home
prevents
expansion
of
the
house
to
the
east
side
into
the
east
side
yard
construction
of
a
two-story
home
would
potentially
significa
would
require
significantly
cutting
back
the
existing
grand
oak
camp
canopy
to
the
east.
It
is
our
goal
to
maintain
a
single
family
home
on
the
property,
our
single
story,
home
on
the
property,
the
hardship
created
by
the
single-family
home
deterred,
including
an
attached
garage
to
the
primary
residence.
K
K
The
ins.
The
increased
square
footage
is
to
accommodate
four
interior
parking
spaces
for
the
lot,
which
would
also
accommodate
the
option
of
interior
recreational
vehicle
parking.
This
structure,
color
pallet,
would
be
consistent
with
the
primary
dwelling
in
reference
specifically
to
the
five
hardships.
K
The
extraordinary
situation
with
the
existing
pool
structure
to
the
south
and
the
location
of
the
grand
oak
tree
to
the
east
results
in
practical
difficulties
that
are
unique
to
the
property.
The
variance
required
the
variances
requested
is
within
the
guidelines
of
reasonable
use
of
the
property
for
a
single
flame
and
home
residents.
The
hardship
created
by
the
existing
pool
and
grand
oak
were
existing
prior
to
the
purchase
of
the
property.
The
variance
we
are
asking
is
an
attempt
to
use
the
land
within
its
means.
K
If
granted,
the
variances
would
not
substantially
interfere
with
or
injure
the
health,
safety
or
welfare
of
others.
The
proposed
variance
is
in
harmony
with
and
serves
the
general
intent
purposes
of
the
property.
The
variances
are
consistent
with
the
appearance
of
the
neighborhood
and
existing
sites
of
the
neighborhood.
K
C
I
K
So
this
is
a
side
yard
view
showing
the
property
from
the
street,
so
you
can
see
there's
a
new
drainage,
ditch
here
on
right
on
the
property
line,
and
then,
if
you
look
down
the
to
the
south
of
the
property,
you
can
see
that
this
is
where
the
single
driveway
would
be
to
the
back
going
into
the
exterior
the
rear
of
the
property
for
parking.
K
This
is
a
view
of
the
current
exterior
rear
of
the
home,
so
this
shows
how
close
the
existing
pool
is
to
the
house
currently
right
now,
the
pool
deck
is
three
feet
from
the
covered
porch.
That
is
there.
Our
intent
is
to
push
the
house
back
two
feet
so
that
we
can
put
the
property
within
current
existing
codes
of
five
feet
from
the
pool
deck
and
enclose
that
back
to
add
the
additional
square
footage
at
the
rear.
K
K
C
C
K
No,
so
the
what
we've
done
is
we've
cleared
out
the
overgrown
brush.
That
was
there
and
we
did
remove
the
pond.
That
was
on
the
east
side
of
the
property
as
well,
so
that
we
could
have
access
to
the
back
of
the
property
to
our
goal
was
to
add
a
garage
back
there
initially,
so
we've
been
kind
of
doing
the
self
removal
of
all
of
that
construction
of
all
the
brush
and
the
debris
in
the
pond,
so
we're
just
kind
of
getting
the
property
ready.
K
D
C
Okay,
that's
my
questions.
F
H
C
K
H
K
Or
2
2
inches
and
3
8
of
an
inch.
So
initially
we
thought
that
we
had
to
do
the
variance
for
the
walkway
from
the
driveway
over
to
the
front
yard,
and
that's
why
we
initially
had.
We
initially
had
put
the
11
feet,
but
then
we
thought
that
we
had
to
do
the
four
feet.
So
that's
why
we
were
asking
for
the
four
feet.
E
So
are
you?
Are
you
just
so
we're
clear
for
when
we're
talking
about
your
motion?
Are
you
requesting
that
the
front
setback
be
11
feet
and
a
couple
inches,
or
are
you
requesting
it
the
four
feet,
because
the
difference
is
whether
or
not
you
can
enclose
that
front
porch.
K
Gotcha,
so
what
we
are,
what
we
are
wanting
to
do
is
at
the
front
corner
of
that
property.
We
want
that
to
be
11
feet
and
we'll
just
say
three
inches
from
the
easement
line,
the
covered,
the
porch
that
walkway
will
not
be
covered,
but
just
keep
in
mind
that
the
two
pillars
that
are
right
here,
those
will
be
covered.
D
I
have
a
question
about
the
tree.
I
don't
see
anywhere
on
these
site
plans
where
the
tree
covers.
D
K
Okay
yeah,
so
here
is
a
picture
of
the
side
yard,
so
the
tree
is
actually
in
our
neighbor's
yard,
which
is
right
up,
butts
up
against
the
fence
and
the
canopy
does
expand
over
into
this
area.
So
this
is
our
temporary
fence
over
the
pool.
Oh,
this
is
our
temporary
fence
over
the
pool,
so
the
canopy
for
this
tree
does
extend
over
to
this
area.
L
F
F
G
K
D
K
K
D
E
Going
to
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion,
I
move
that
their
variance
request
for
case
vrb,
21-14
property
located
at
3116
west
paxton
avenue
be
granted
as
depicted
on
the
site
plan
presented
at
the
public
hearing
to
reduce
the
front
setback
from
25
feet
to
11
feet.
E
The
rear
set
back
from
the
rear
yard
setback
from
20
feet
to
5
feet
and
the
side
yard
set
back
from
seven
feet
to
five
feet,
with
an
encroachment
for
eaves
and
gutters,
based
upon
the
applicant
presenting
competent
and
substantial
evidence
in
the
record
in
this
public
hearing
of
an
unnecessary
hardship
or
practical
difficulty.
When
considering
the
five
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
section
27-80
to
city
code,
specifically
that
the
existing
pool
prevents
expansion
to
the
south,
that
the
grand
oak
to
the
east
prevents
a
second
story
or
eastwardly
expansion
of
the
home.
E
D
Motion
carries.
I
have
two
quick
amendments
that
I
probably
should
have
brought
up
earlier
than
this.
A
D
A
K
C
G
Mr
sorry,
kamaria
pettis
snapper
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
so
first
mr
chair,
will
have
to
do
a
motion
to
reopen
the
public
hearing
right
because
the
applicant
needs
to
provide
the
information.
E
G
E
I'll
move
to
reopen
the
public
hearing
so
that
we
can
hear
evidence
on
the
square
footage
issue.
C
Second
by
ms
long,
okay,
please
tell
us
about
the
square
footage.
Okay,
the
need
for
it.
K
So,
in
regards
to
the
additional
square
footage
for
the
detached
three-car
garage
at
the
rear
of
the
property,
the
it's.
My
understanding,
that
the
current
guidelines
is
for
900
square
feet
and
we
are
asking
to
increase
that
to
1200
square
feet
so
that
we
can
accommodate
three
vehicles
and
a
boat
in
that
enclosed
structure.
C
K
What's
that
so
would
be.
Let
me
think
about
this
for
just
two
seconds
here.
So
we
can't
put
the
garage
at
the
front
of
the
house
because
there's
no
room
to
accommodate
that
for
the
width
of
the
property
and
we
are
attempting
to
provide
enclosed
parking
to
the
rear
of
the
property,
to
prevent
street
parking
and
to
have
an
exterior
recreational
vehicle
parked
in
the
front
of
the
house,
which
would
detract
from
the
harmony
of
the
neighborhood.
C
C
What
you're
trying
to
preserve
the
garage
is
a
new
structure
correct
the
reason
for
putting
it
behind
the
house
and
the
setback
you've
explained
and
you
have
a
hardship
for
those,
but
the
reason
for
the
additional
square
footage
specifically,
is
what
we
need
to
hear
and
how
the
property
dictates
the
need.
It
sounds
like
you're
saying
the
need
is
because
you
want
to
put
x
number
of
things
in
it,
but
that
itself
is
not
a
hardship
created
by
the
property.
So
is
there
something
about
your
property
that
makes
it
unique,
or
this
situation
that's
unique.
H
C
G
C
C
I
I
A
A
C
H
H
H
H
This
is
over
the
east
side
of
town.
It's
rs50,
it's
it's
it's!
We
are
a
piece
of
adam
you're,
not
far
from
adam
and
50th.
I'm
sorry!
This
is
not
coming
up.
H
This
is
the
existing
house,
the
existing
there's,
a
carport
detached
carport
that
tucks,
underneath
the
eve
of
the
house
right
here-
and
this
is
quite-
is
a
little
bit
closer
than
this
detached
structure
over
here,
which
has
an
issue
with
the
side
yard
setback
by
approving
by
the
board
proving
these
features.
These
setbacks,
you,
you,
vest
these
structures,
as
they
said,
which
is
the
owner's
request
for
this
evening's
case.
H
This
is
one
of
the
code
enforcement
pictures
along
the
front
yard.
The
applicant
was
originally
cited
not
only
for
the
accessory
structures,
but
this
fence.
They
got
a
design
exception
for
the
hype,
this
fence
in
the
front
yard,
there's
another
code
enforcement
picture
of
the
the
carport
structure.
That's
in
question
before
you.
H
C
A
L
L
On
the
other
side,
we
had
to
have
that
when
my
parents
had
the
home
next
to
us,
they
passed
away
and
I
had
to
have
a
carport
in
order
to
put
a
boat
under
there,
and
I
don't
know
what
the
other
the
issue
of
the
shed
the
inspector
lopez
said
himself,
that
that
was
okay,
and
that
was
not
on
the
initial
code.
L
L
C
L
So
if
I
don't
want
to
get
with
the
weather
or
whatever
I
I
need
to
get
in
with
that
carport,
I
can't
move
it
back
any
and
I
mean
not
that
it
matters,
but
there's
cardboards
all
over
the
neighborhood
that
are
just
exactly
like
mine,
but
it
would
be
a
hardship
for
me
to
to
not
have
any
overhang
where
I
could
get
in,
and
you
know
out
of
the
weather
that
I
wouldn't
have
a
carport
there
in
my
driveway,
the
other
cardboard
as
well.
F
Joel,
how
long
does
a
structure
have
to
sit
there?
F
F
H
D
H
Accessory
structure
off
to
the
right,
we
thought
it
would
be
a
disservice
to
work
with
the
carport
and
not
the
other
detached
structure.
That's
also
causing
an
issue
on
the
property
she
was
wanting
to
keep
it
staff
knew
that
the
board
would
look
at
at
the
survey
and
see
these
two
structures
and
ask
if
we're
going
to
work
with
one,
why
not?
The
other
staff
recommended
that
the
applicant
apply
for
setbacks
for
both
structures
and
then
attempt
to
keep
them.
F
C
L
C
F
L
The
ship
at
the
carport,
probably
six
to
eight
months.
L
A
E
So
all
right,
so
we
here's
what
we
need
to
understand.
We
understand
that
the
carport,
the
the
one
carport
in
your
driveway.
We
understand
that
that's
been
there
for
20
20
years,
approximately.
E
And
that's
your
primary
parking
structure
right.
We
understand
that
the
second
shed
the
one
further
back,
it's
a
small
shed.
It's
been
there,
obviously
for
a
little
while
the
issue
that
we
have
to
address
is-
or
one
of
the
issues
that
we
have
to
address
is
this
second
car
port.
That's
relatively
new
that
brandon
shed
put
in
there
and
when
you-
and
I
was-
I
was
recently
speaking
with
our
staff
about
this.
The
the
problem
is
that
the
word
hardship
doesn't
mean
what
you're
saying
it
means.
E
The
word
hardship
for
us
is
is
about,
as
mr
pasteur
explained,
to
the
to
the
product
that
you
may
or
may
not
have
heard.
The
issue
is
that
it
has
to
do
with
this
with
the
property
itself.
It
has
to
do
with
the
the
unique
or
singular
characteristics
of
your
property,
and
we
have
to
understand
why
a
structure
that
that
violates
the
setbacks
that
cuts
into
what
would
standard
be
setbacks.
Why
does
it
need
to
be
in
that
location?
Why
couldn't
it
be
shifted
over
some
or
further
back
some
or
replace
the
other
shed?
E
That's
there.
Why
does
it
need
to
be
in
that
location
because
of
the
property
itself,
not
because
it
would
be
expensive
or
problematic
for
you?
We
have
to
understand
about
the
property
itself.
So
can
you
give
us
a
shot
and
help
us
to
try
and
understand
that,
so
we
can
see
if
we
can
do
something
for
you.
L
E
L
A
L
L
I
just
want
to
say
that
you
know
if
you
would
take
into
consideration
me
being
able
to
keep
that.
I
most
certainly
would
appreciate
it.
You
know,
I
just
don't
know
what
else
to
do.
A
E
All
right,
so
let
me
try
and
understand
this.
I
I
don't
have
any
problem
and
would
be
willing
to
make
a
motion
to
preserve
the
front
carport,
which
would
reduce
the
front
yard
setback
from
60
to
21.
joel.
Would
that
include
the
eve
to
eve
separation
issue.
They.
E
Okay,
but
the
side
yard
setback
issue.
Unfortunately,
given
you
know
what
we
heard
I
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
do
it,
but
I
don't
think
we
have
any
justification
to
do
that
so
other
thoughts
or
shall
I
go
ahead
and
make
money.
C
C
She
said
the
whole
neighborhood's
got
carports
like
this,
and
we've
certainly
seen
that
here
a
lot
and
this
one
is
still
12
feet
from
the
property
line,
which
is
a
pretty
reasonable
herb.
I
don't
know
how
far
it
is,
but
it's
21
feet
from
the
property
line.
So
that's
pretty
reasonable.
The
other
shed
is
one
of
those
situations
where
it's
technically
not
self-created,
because
she
hired
a
professional
to
do
it
and
they
did
it
wrong.
C
Now
she
had
a
building
permit
that
showed
that
that
would
be
all
the
more
convincing.
But
still
these
are
professionals
that
have
businesses
to
do
this
for
a
living,
and
they
did
not
do
it
correctly,
and
that
makes
it
less
self-created
than
than
a
lot
of
other
things
that
we
run
into
sometimes
so
we're
talking
about
a
foot
and
a
half
on
that
the
front
yard
would
be
an
issue
except
the
carport.
So
the
front
yard's
really
not
an
issue
on
this
shed.
E
So
what
what's
interesting
to
me
is
that
you
did
make
the
point
that
it
is
a
small.
It
is
a
small
piece
on
that
side
and,
and
though
your
point
is
well
taken
about
a
professional
being
hired.
I've
always
been
of
the
belief
that
an
agent
that
you
bring
in
is
your
representative.
C
D
So
I
hate
to
do
this.
I
looked
up
the
setbacks
for
an
rs50
property
and
I'm
not
a
hundred
percent
following
the
60-foot
setback.
So,
mr
pastor,
maybe
you
can
help
me
understand,
but
I'm
looking
at
rs
50
and
I'm
seeing
that
there's
a
20
foot
front
yard
setback.
A
C
A
C
Okay,
so
that's
just
a
procedural
issue:
it
still.
G
G
Mario
pettis
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
I
would
use
caution
in
what
you
just
referenced
to
mr
chair
about
attaching
the
the
accessory
structure
to
the
primary
structure.
It
is
not
just
a
simple
attachment.
That's
that's
not
correct
again.
I
want.
I
would
encourage
the
board
to
please
focus
on
the
application,
as
it's
presented
today
and
as
the
the
applicant
has
presented
it
to
the
board
today
and
not
what
could
be
or
what
could
be
done
to
address.
G
C
A
E
We're
debating
over
what
what
I
don't
see
as
a
an
issue,
because
it's
still
been
there
for
20
years.
It
still
meets
the
issue.
What
I'd
like
to
hear
more
about
is
other
people's
thoughts
on
this
three
foot
versus
1.3
foot
setback
question,
because
I'm
I
was
originally
on
the
mindset
that
there's
not
much
we
can
do,
but
it
is
a
less
than
two
feet
of
an
issue.
D
I,
while
I
respect
that,
I
I
don't
think
that
we
should
set
a
precedent
of
you
know,
asking
forgiveness
forgiveness
instead
of
permission,
and
I
feel
like
that's
what
this
is
doing.
We're
rewarding
this
company
for
poor
behavior,
so
that
will
encourage
future
companies
to
not
follow
the
rules
that
are.
D
A
D
E
E
So
it's
it's
really
about
the
property
owner
and
and
you're
you're
right
that
we
don't
want
to
deal
with
incurring
forgiveness,
but
the
issue
we
would
have
is,
as
we
we've
talked
about
in
the
past,
would
we
permit
this
if
the
applicant
came
to
us
beforehand?
Would
we
permit
this?
I.
L
E
I
would
say
probably
would
want
to
try
and
get
it
within
the
setbacks.
It
looks
like
it
could
reasonably
get
within
the
setbacks,
but
I
don't
know
what
the
separation
is
between
that
structure
and
and
the
primary
structure.
So
I'd
be
guessing.
If
I
said
that
we
would
be
creating
a
separation
issue
if
we
required
it
to
be
three
feet
away.
G
E
E
When
considering
the
five
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
section
27-80
of
the
city
code,
specifically
that
the
that
the
structures
at
issue
are
carports,
one
of
which
has
been
in
place
for
20
years.
The
other
is
a
small
setback
infraction
on
the
side
yard
that
may
need
to
be
placed
in
this
location.
F
C
C
I
I
D
I
It
is
a
single
family
that
was
error,
so
please
it's
rs,
100
single
family.
Thank
you.
M
C
M
I'm
the
agent
for
the
property
owner
the
property
owner
is
mr
thomas
buckingham
sitting
back
here.
I'm
the
contractor.
He
hired
me
to
design
a
new
detached
garage.
The
detached
garage
was
in
extreme
disrepair
falling
apart
mold,
the
children
were
getting
sick
by
going
in
there,
and
so
he
hired
me
to
design
and
build
a
new
garage
for
them
in
accordance
with
the
current
look
of
the
home,
so
we
submitted
for
permit.
It
kicked
back
and
said
that
our
zoning
restriction
height
restrictions
were
to
15
feet.
M
Our
hardships
are
that
the
grand
oak
to
the
left,
if
you
notice
on
the
site
plan,
we
can't
go,
we
can't
make
the
garage
a
bigger
single
story
and
the
pool
to
the
right.
M
This
is
the
existing
structure
and
we're
already
on
the
rear
setback,
as
close
as
we
possibly
can,
and
we
can't
go
any
closer
to
that
pool,
I'm
not
exactly
sure
how
far
from
the
front
sat
back.
That
is,
but
we
kept
it
in
accordance
to
what
it
was
already
was.
M
We
did
make
it
just
a
hair
deeper,
but
we
didn't
want
to
encroach
any
farther
on
the
the
house,
and
so
there
is
no.
There
are
no
windows
on
the
rear
of
the
home
or
of
the
garage,
so
it's
not
peering
into
the
the
neighbor's
yard
and
we've
we've
ridden
around
several
places
around.
I
have
pictures
here
of.
M
M
So
you
see,
if
you
see
that's
a
that's
a
two-story
structure,
that's
one
road
over
from
them,
and
this
one
is
the
newest
structure
here
at
3401
west
mullen
that's
literally
right
down
the
road
and
that
one,
if
you
notice
this
fence
is
over
eight
feet
and
I
took
a
measuring
stick.
M
That
fence
is
nine
feet
high,
so
the
top
of
those
windows
is
10
and
if
you
count-
or
you
know,
you
know
that
from
here
to
here
is
easily
over
over
30
feet
on
this
one
or
or
right
at
30
feet,
that's
the
newest
structure
and
then
right
literally
right
down
the
road
from
them
which
is
kind
of
what
we
patterned
our
design.
After
that,
one.
M
M
This
will
just
provide
some
additional
storage
area.
There's
no
living
space
up
there,
additional
storage
area
for
the
family,
because
there's
going
to
be
the
owner
lives
doesn't
live
there
full
time,
but
he
comes
and
stays,
and
so
they
need
some
additional
area
to
park.
Two
cars,
the
existing
garage,
the
old
garage,
was
not
wide
enough
to
accommodate
two
vehicles,
and
so
in
order,
only
only
other
way
to
get
additional
storage
was
to
go
up.
M
C
H
N
N
N
N
C
Thank
you.
Does
anybody
else
wish
to
speak
on
this
case?
C
You
were
technically
the
petitioner,
so
your
time
was
previously
used,
but
you
still
had
three
minutes
on
the
clock
so
might
as
well.
Let
you
use
it.
J
J
J
I've
been
sworn
in.
Yes,
I'm
sorry,
my
hearing's,
not
that
great
three
minutes.
I
just
wanted
to
say
we're
not
trying
to
set
a
precedent
here.
I
think
the
examples
that
zedoc
showed
you
of
other
buildings
in
the
neighborhood
are
not
going
to
conf.
I
mean
we're
not
going
to
conflict
with
those
appearances
whatsoever.
J
The
exact
height
of
this
building
that
we're
putting
up
is
not
25
feet.
It's
23
and
the
building
that
came
down
was
about
18
six.
I
think
that's
a
casual
measurement
that
I
did
a
couple
of
years
ago
when
we
were
getting
concerned
about
what
we
were
going
to
do
with
this
building.
Initially
we
wanted
to
rebuild
it
and
it
was
really
in
pretty
bad
shape,
so
the
option
that
we
took
was
to
tear
it
down
and
hope
to
rebuild
it
with
as
much
modern
accoutrements.
J
There
was
a
house
built
in
back
of
us
on
mckay
that
really
peers
down
on
us.
It's
enormous
and
it's
a
very
nice
structure.
I
mean
it's
a
very
nice
architecturally
designed
house,
but
I
mean
you
talk
about.
Somebody
did
say
that
they
were
concerned
about
our
building
being
so
high
that
if
we
had
windows
in
the
back,
which
we
do
not
you,
we
could
peer
into
the
neighbor's
property.
J
I
think
the
contrary
is
that
if
this
building
doesn't
go
up
to
almost
25
feet,
they're
going
to
have
a
pretty
good
view
of
our
property,
as
they
do
right
now
so
and
we
did
try
to
go
laterally.
That
would
be
the
hardship
we
wanted
to
go
laterally,
but
we
have
a
tree
there.
It's
a
big
old
oak
tree
that
we
like.
J
We
don't
want
to
get
into
the
roots
of
that
that
tree
and
we
have
a
swimming
pool
to
the
right
that
I
don't
think
would
be
feasible
to
be
able
to
move
to
make
this
building
bigger
laterally.
So
again,
we're
not.
We
like
this
neighborhood.
We
like
its
looks-
and
we
like
the
architecture
around
us,
so
we're
certainly
not
trying
to
make
a
a
building
that
would
be
out
of
place
in
this
neighborhood
and
this
house
was
built
in
1925
so
again
we're
trying
to
keep
the
same
appearance.
C
C
C
M
C
M
M
M
C
Andy,
could
you
pull
up
the
sight
plane
again?
Please
I
don't
know.
Oh
sorry,
come
on.
Oh
there,
it
is
okay,
all
right
perfect.
Can
you
see
it
yep?
Let
me
zoom
out
nope,
that's
good!
D
G
Maria
pettis
mackel
from
the
legal
department,
the
existing
they
have
to
build
according
to
the
code,
so
I
can't
speak.
I
don't
know
what
happened
before
to
the
original
garage
or
the
accessory
structure
or
what
it
was
built
to
or
what
the
circumstances
were
how
it
was
built.
It
has
to
meet
the
code.
So
that's
why
the
request
is
from
15,
which
is
the
the
setback
requirements.
I
mean
the
height
requirements.
That's
why
we're
that's
why
the
applicant
is
asking
from
15
to
23
and
a
half.
G
G
No
I'll
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
the
they're,
the
board
members
are
asking
questions
of
the
legal
department
and
it's
not
are.
Are
you
trying
to
provide
additional
public
comment?
I.
G
C
Seeing
none,
let's
give
our
guest
a
moment
to
speak
if
you'd
like
to
and
before
rebuttal.
Would
you
like
to
say
something:
do
you
like
to
say
something.
N
C
M
M
I
don't
really
have
very
much
to
say
other
than
you
know
the
design
and
the
exterior
finishes
all
of
it's
going
to
comply
with
how
it
was
originally,
and
I
just
feel
like
the
the
hardships
are
that
you
can't
go
laterally
and
you
can't
go
towards
the
front
of
the
house
or
you
know,
or
we
would
so
we're
not
trying
to
break
code,
we're
just
asking
for
an
exception.
C
C
So
the
windows
are
on
the
front
facing
their
own
house
or
the
pool
which
is
the
farthest
lot
line
to
the
east,
and
then
the
noise
I
mean
noise
could
be
made
in
a
one-story
building,
as
it
can
in
a
two
windows
would
certainly
make
noise
travel
further,
but
we've
established
that
there
are
not
windows
on
those
neighboring
property
lines.
So
for
those
reasons-
and
in
most
you
know
most
convincingly
for
me
the
examples
of
all
of
the
other
buildings
in
the
neighborhood
that
are
built
this
way,
I
don't
have
issues
with
this.
F
2125
for
the
property
located
at
3305
west
lakes
avenue
be
granted
as
depicted
on
the
site
plan
presented
at
the
public
hearing,
for
a
variance
from
an
increase
in
height
from
an
accessory
structure.
Availability
of
15
to
23
and
a
half.
Did
I
get
that
right?
Yes,
23
and
a
half
with
an
encroachment
for
using
gutters
based
upon
the
applicant
presenting
confident,
substantial
evidence
in
the
record
at
this
public
hearing
of
an
unnecessary
hardship
for
practical
difficulty.
A
C
B
Mr
cotton,
is
that
you
no,
it
wasn't
supposed
to
be,
but
that's
fine.
I
have
no
kind
of
development
coordination,
so
this
is
our
yearly
elections
for
chair
and
vice
chair.
B
We
can
do
one
of
two
ways
we
do
by
voice
voter,
we
can
do
pieces
of
paper
and
everybody
want
to
have
a
secret
ballot.
It's
all
up
to
the
through
the
board.
The
only
criteria
to
be
the
chair
or
chairman
is
you
can't
be
an
alternate
member,
because
you
don't
need
to
be
here
all
the
time,
so
we
ever
get
a
full
board.
B
You
couldn't
be
here.
You
can
be
chair
as
an
alternate,
but
anyway
anybody
like
to
make
a
motion
for
vice
chair.
We
usually
do.
F
B
B
C
B
A
E
B
A
B
B
Is
there
a
motion
for
vice
chair?
I
mean
actually
an
nomination
for
vice
chair.
C
B
B
B
We
could
not
place
on
the
agenda
because
they
weren't
complete
at
the
time
of
the
hearing.
We
would
some
of
the
deadline.
What
we
try
to
do
just
to
give
you
a
general
overview
of
the
process.
Applications
come
in
via
seller
now,
so
when
an
application
comes
in,
we
do
a
quick
review
and
let
the
person
know
what's
missing.
B
Generally
speaking,
there's
something
that's
not
100
active
on
the
application.
We
let
them
know
what
needs
to
be
updated,
including
the
billing,
because
they
don't
pay
for
the
application
upfront.
It's
invoiced
after
the
submittal.
B
B
B
People
that
are
not
even
going
to
play
disagreeing,
but
that's
something
that
we
need
to
work
on
and
that's
a
business
decision
that
has
to
be
set
by
the
the
administration.
I
think
it
would
be
more
effective
that
way,
but
right
now,
the
way
the
business
model
was
set
up.
You
apply
you
pay,
50
and
you're
on
hold.
Then,
when
your
application
is
deemed
complete,
then
we
then
we
bill
you,
the
remaining
reigning
366
or
whatever
it
is
so
yeah.
B
B
We
don't
set
the
hearings
like
they
do
for
city
council.
They
don't
go
through
sire
and
all
that
in
the
way
the
clerk's
office
sets
them
up.
So
anybody
who
comes
in
theoretically
could
be
heard
if
they
can
complete
their
application
and
do
notice
in
the
right
time
frame.
What
we're
starting
to
do
is
applications
that
come
in
and
they're
not
complete
like.
If
the
deadline
was
may
1st
for
a
hearing,
and
by
may
15
they're
still
incomplete,
they
would
not
be
put
on
the
next
agenda.
B
I
would
recommend
I
mean
we'll
go
through
the
hearings,
we'll
go
through
the
agenda.
We
did
if
we
did
a
preliminary.
What
was
complete
and
what's
not,
I
don't
know.
If
anything
has
that
with
or
you
left
it,
you
left
it
at
the
office
in
any
application.
There's
chances
are
that
that
the
20
some
odd
applications
are
not
ready
to
be
set.
There's
probably
six
or
seven
that
are
actually
complete.
B
E
B
Correct
what
we
try
to
do
is
we
do
it.
We
try
to
do
the
initial
review
within
like
the
first
five
or
six
days
it
comes
in
so
if
some
people,
if
they
have
they
forgot
to
get
their
notice,
their
authorization
notarized
that
kind
of
stuff
we
can
work
with.
But
if
the
application
comes
in,
they
have
not
submitted
a
site
plan.
E
E
E
Okay,
so
those
could
still
fall
off
if
they
don't
do
their
notes,
correct
okay,
so
we
we
talked
a
little
bit
before
about
the
option
of
setting
as
many
as
we
can
and
then
at
the
hearing
we
say
you
know
we're
not
going
to
hear
any
we're
going
to
not
going
to
start
any
new
case
after
a
certain
time
frame
after
like
11
or
11
30.
E
B
B
You
say
to
the
last
group
and
say
because
we
could
always
keep
this
the
third
tuesday
of
the
month
available
that
we
could
reserve
this
all
the
council
chambers
for
and
say
to
them.
These
cases
may
not
be
heard
until
11
30..
We
don't
want
to
take
it.
Would
anybody
like
with
the
last
group
like
to
continuous
you,
can't
I
will
tell
you
brad?
I
don't
think
we
can
force
somebody
to
say
I'm
going
to
get
moved
to
the
next
month
to
the
next
week.
B
E
But
see
we
can
consider
that,
because
this
is
a
point
that
I
brought
up
if,
if
the
requirement
is-
and
people
are
told
that
you
should
be
here
by
6
30,
the
hearing
is
going
to
start
at
6
30.
A
E
We
can
determine
if
there
is
a
case
that
has
a
lot
of
people
there
to
talk
to
or
even
a
few
people,
if
there's
two
or
three
people
that
are
there
to
talk
about
that
case,
we
can,
we
can
say
no,
no,
we'll
we'll
move
that
case
up
in
the
agenda.
G
Excuse
me,
mr
mr
feldman,
the
commissioner
following
kamaria
pettis
macro
for
the
record,
there's
a
notice
issue
and
it's
a
due
process
issue
also
for
the
public.
I
hear
what
you're
saying
right.
E
E
Land
use
attorneys
because
they
come
in.
They
know
they're
the
last
on
the
agenda,
but
we're
telling
people-
and
I
asked
that
exact
same
question
do
do
we
have
do
we
have
to
what
happens
if
somebody's
rolling
in
at
9
30,
because
they're
on
schedule
they're
scheduled
later
in
the
day,
and
what
what
staff
is
telling
me
is
staff
tells
people,
that's
a
risk.
You
take.
E
G
Again,
it's
the
legal
department's
perspective
that
it's
a
notice
issue.
I
hear
what
you're
saying
right.
I
hear
what
you're
saying,
but
we
can't
ask
people
to
continue
a
case
if
they're
not
asking
to
continue
case
to
deal
with
the
if
we
have
x
amount
of
people
here,
those
cases
have
to
be
heard
because
that's
their
notice
to
be
heard
that
day
we
can't
get
into
it.
E
And
and
half
the
time
we
go
through
cases
and
we
talk
to
those
people
and
they
don't
have
something
and
they
go.
Oh,
you
know
what
I'd
actually
like
to
be
moved
and
you're
right.
There
could
be
a
scenario
where
we
could
have
15
and
every
single
one
of
those
people
would
go.
You
know
what
I
want
to
be
heard
tonight.
G
So
it's
my
recommendation
that
staff
go
back
to
finish
reviewing
the
items
that
are
on
the
agenda
for
the
june
hearing,
make
that
determination
internally
of
how
many
are
likely
to
go
forward
based
on
meeting
the
requirements,
and
then
we
could
do
an
email
to
ask
before
the
notice
deadline.
What
the
board
would
like
to
do.
Okay,.
E
I'm
okay
with
that.
I
think
this
is.
I
think
the
problem
is
that
we've
had
this
process
has
become
we're
trying
to
protect
people
but
we're
making
it
harder
for
them
we're
making
it
inefficient.
We've
got
two
hearings
set
for
this
month
and
we're
having
three
and
two
at
these
two
at
these
two
hearings:
that's
a
totally
inefficient
use
of
staff.
Time.
D
H
G
E
E
A
Before
these
new
rules
came
in
and
we
used
to,
whoever
signed
up
was
there
for
that
meeting
I
mean
they
didn't
all
show
up,
but
you
know
they
were
signed
up
for
that
meeting
yeah
and
we
stayed
until
they
were
done.
Usually
we're
out
here,
10
11
at
night
yeah
every
now,
and
then
it
drove
over
to
midnight
at
one
I'd
rather
do
that
than
turn
around
and
come
back
in
two
weeks
and
do
it
again.
E
C
We're
not
even
following
our
own
bylaws
of
having
a
cap
yeah,
because
reasonably
this
process
no
longer
allows
for
us
to
even
know
how
many
people
we're
going
to
have.
So
if
we
followed
our
own
rules,
you
would
cap
it
in
10
new
three
old
cases
we'd
end
up
having
one
here
in
person,
because
nobody
can
notice
anymore,
and
so
instead,
we're
putting
20
on
which
we
shouldn't
be
doing.
But
we
are
because
we're
assuming
they're
going
to
drop
and
if
they
don't
drop,
then
we've
broken
our
own
bylaw.
C
C
D
D
G
But
they
have
according
to
your
rules,
you
have
a
number
of
pieces
that
you
can
be
heard
in
one
night.
That's
the
rule.
D
B
D
Well,
and-
and
that's
ms
walker
makes
an
excellent
point,
though,
as
the
city
gets
larger
and
as
we're
seeing
all
of
the
renovation
work
going
on
this
is
this
is
going
to
be
a
continuing
problem.
I
also
agree
with
mr
pasteur
that
we
need
to
find
out
why
people
don't
know
how
to
notice
or
aren't
noticing
or
whatever
the
problem
is,
but
we
seem
to
have
both
of
these
issues
coming
together
at
once.
So
I
think
we
have
multiple
issues.
B
Sometimes
sometimes
it
is
the
fact
that
people,
I'm
sure
and
joel
can
joke,
and
I
speak
to
this
better.
Sometimes
people
just
decide
they
don't
want
to
move
forward
at
a
certain
hearing
because
of
whatever
reason,
sometimes
family
issues
whatever
comes
up.
They
just
don't
want
to
move
forward,
so
they
say
I'll
go
I'll
notice
for
the
next
available
hearing
or
whatever.
Sometimes
people
just
do
notice
incorrectly
and
we've
had
internal
discussions
about
trying
to
get
the
notice
easy
or
simpler
or
whatever,
but
the
code
has
specific
standards.
B
You
have
to
meet
for
notice
and
a
lot
of
times.
People
just
don't
do
notice
correctly
and
some
of
that's
on
the
front
end
on
staff.
When
somebody
applies
for
something
we
need
to
make
sure
what
their
what
they
want
and
what
they
put
in
their
application
is
actually
what
they
need
to
notice
for,
because
a
lot
of
times
people
will
say,
I
want
to
increase
the
height
of
my
structure
for
like
the
accessory
circuit.
B
A
B
And
I
have
been
working
on
for
the
june
hearing
is
making
sure
what
people
come
in
and
they
ask
for
is
what
they
actually
need,
not
what
they
think
they
need,
because
they
don't
know
our
code
and
we
catch
those
upfront.
Then
they
can
do
notice
correctly,
because
if
we
don't
catch
it
up
front
people
will
do
notice
I'll
do
notice
for
the
wrong
request.
No,
that
gets
us
back
to
the
case
of
now.
You
have
x
number
of
cases
on
the
agenda.
Do
you
all
know
how
many
new
cases
are
actually
in
june?
D
B
E
F
F
Like
that,
like,
I
won't
mention
any
names,
but
there's
a
there's,
an
applicant
on
this
agenda
and
he's
bounced
for
he's
been
bounced
for
four
months
and
you're.
Not
he
has
no
intention
of.
I
mean.
I
know
this
guy
they're,
not
gonna
it
just
it's
in
the
system
and
he
hasn't
communicated
to
you
all
to
pull
it
out
or
anything.
G
Like
that,
no
tomorrow
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
there's
an
internal
procedure
that
staff
needs
to
do
if
a
applicant
misnotices
twice
and
if
I
could
figure
out
which
one
you're
referencing.
But
there
is
an
internal
procedure
that
staff
will
take
if
an
applicant
miss
notices
more
if
missed
notices
twice
because.
F
C
C
C
2014
so
to
lynn's
point
about
the
city's
getting
busier.
My
point
is
we
used
to
have
way
more
cases
every
night
than
we've
had
ever
since
you've
been
here
and
out
of
those
only
one
or
two
would
miss
notice.
Something's
happened
now
we're
getting
tons
of
miss
notices.
We
almost
never
saw
those.
So
what
is
this.
B
H
C
I'm
not
a
notice
guide
like
a
little
visual
notice
guide.
You
have
your
sign.
Your
sign
goes
in
your
yard.
You
take
pictures,
you
send
out
your
letter,
you
pull
you
go
on
the
website.
You
click
these
buttons
and
pull
your
radius
and
you
send
letters
and
you
just
do
a
little
visual,
five
pager,
that
every
single
person
gets,
and
you
say:
if
you
don't
follow
this,
you
will
not
be
heard
well.
B
We
have
revised
the
language
we
just
actually
we've
done
it
so
far
for
the
administrative
processes,
the
the
vrb
hearing
will
be
basically
the
same
with
a
little
bit
of
a
little
bit
of
tweaks
yeah,
but
some
of
it
is,
I
think,
a
lot
of
the
people
that
are
moving
forward
have
just
not
done
notice
at
all.
They
didn't
miss
notice
as
much
as
they
just
didn't
do
notice
at
all,
because
they
had
other
things
happen
that
they
didn't
notice.
B
For
so
vrb's
are
pretty
quite
tight
time
frame
from
the
time
you
submit
you
get
before
the
before
this
group.
You
only
have
about
two
months
and
notice.
It's
30
days
out,
so
they
have
to
do
by
the
time
they
submit
and
we
make
sufficiency.
We
give
them
about
eight
to
ten
days
to
actually
do
notice
properly,
but
a
lot
of
these
people.
I
think
that
are
on
this
agenda.
That
would
have
been
heard.
Just
didn't
you
notice
at
all.
Wasn't
they
miss
noticed?
C
D
H
B
E
You
know,
but
right
now,
as
as
we're
seeing
if
we
use
that
cap
right
now,
we
effectively
could
end
up
with.
I
don't
know,
let's
say
three
people
now
and
we're
using
the
game
we're
having.
We
have
three
three
cases
and
we
have
two
next
week.
We
split
them
to
try
and
make
it
more
reasonable.
We're
gonna
have
three
and
two
and
now,
as
a
result,
everybody
that
is
going
in
may
could
have
gone
tonight
yeah,
but
they
got
pushed
due
to
a
bunch
of
people.
Misnoting.