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B
All
right,
folks
welcome
everybody,
tonight's,
a
very
special
night,
we're
going
to
remember
september
11th
on
september
11,
2001
it'll
be
a
day
that
will
be
forever
remembered
both
for
its
tragedy
and
for
the
unwavering
spirit
of
the
american
people,
as
our
nation
was
attacked
by
terrorists.
Yet
heroes
emerged
among
us
among
those
who
showed
true
courage
and
sacrifice
for
the
new
york
fire
and
police
departments.
B
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B
B
Present,
thank
you,
madam
clerk.
So
we
have
two
special
presentations
tonight
and
I
had
a
chance
to
meet
these
young
fellas
amazing
group
of
players
for
tonight's
special
presentation.
I'm
going
to
ask
the
thousand
oaks
little
league,
ten
and
under
manager,
dwayne
burton
coaches,
tyler
bacon,
rod
collins
to
please
join
me
up
here
for
special
recognition
come
on
up.
B
B
E
E
When
these
13
boys,
three
coaches,
started
the
little
league
all-star
season
this
summer.
We
had
one
goal
in
mind
and
that
was
to
be
state
champions.
They
reached
their
goal.
They
did
exactly
what
they
set
out
to
do
hard
work,
perseverance.
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The
camaraderie
that
this
team
showed
for
two
months
of
baseball
was
like
nothing.
I've
ever
seen
before.
I'm
proud,
I'm
honored
to
be
their
manager.
I
know
these
gentlemen
behind
me
are
honored
to
be
their
coach,
and
we
appreciate
you
guys
having
us
here
tonight
to
recognize
these
young
men
right
here.
So
thank
you
for
having
us.
We
appreciate
it.
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F
B
All
right:
well,
while
the
boys
are
exiting
quietly
I'd
like
to
introduce
melissa,
hurtado,
the
assistant
to
the
city
manager,
who's,
going
to
tell
us
about
the
events
that
are
being
planned
to
celebrate
the
25th
anniversary
of
the
thousand
oak
civic
arts,
plaza
melissa.
Where
are
you
there?
You
are
there.
You
go.
G
G
Some
special
performances
to
mark
the
occasion
include
jackie
ivanko
on
october
6th
vanessa
williams
on
october
11th
and
three
resident
companies,
five-star
theatricals,
newest
symphony
and
pacific
ballet
will
have
a
special
show
entitled
hollywood
on
stage
on
october.
12Th
tickets
are
available
now
at
civic
artsplaza.com.
G
These
events
will
all
culminate
with
the
civic
arts,
plaza
25th
anniversary,
open
house
celebration
on
sunday
october,
13th
from
1
to
4
p.m.
It's
a
free,
family-friendly
event,
which
will
include
live,
entertainment,
a
touch,
a
truck
display,
junior
firefighter
agility
course
tours
of
the
theaters
children's
activities,
along
with
folks
from
the
city
departments,
to
provide
information
on
city
programs
and
services
and
one
of
the
more
important
components
of
the
open
house
celebration
is
the
general
plan
update
pop-up
event.
G
The
community
will
have
the
opportunity
to
share
their
vision
for
thousand
oaks,
bring
the
kids
have
some
fun
but
be
sure
to
stop
by
the
booth
to
share
your
input
and
for
those
of
you
not
already
doing
so
be
sure
to
follow
teox42045.
So
it's
t
oaks
2045
on
both
facebook
and
twitter.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time
and
attention
and
we
hope
to
see
you
there.
B
C
This
is
a
time
and
place
for
public
comments.
A
speaker
card
is
available
for
those
wishing
to
address
the
city
council
regarding
items
on
the
agenda
or
on
a
subject
within
the
city's
jurisdiction.
Speakers
for
public
hearing
items
shall
be
called
and
heard
during
the
public
hearing.
All
remarks
should
be
addressed
to
the
council
as
a
whole
and
all
documents
for
city
council
and
the
official
record
should
be
presented
to
the
city
clerk
prior
to
speaking.
Speakers
are
requested
to
state
their
name
and
community
of
residents
for
the
record
under
state
law.
C
Public
comment
matters
may
not
be
considered
by
the
council
unless
listed
on
the
agenda,
but
may
be
referred
to
the
city
manager
for
administrative
follow-up.
Three
individuals
have
presented
cards
and
pursuant
to
council
standards,
speakers
are
allowed
three
minutes.
The
yellow
light
displays
when
you
have
one
minute
remaining.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
our
first
speaker
tonight.
It
says
anna
katabjen,
but
isn't
it
hannah
hannah
come
on
up?
Oh,
it's.
Anna
okay,
anna
come
on
up
and
you
gave
us
a
flyer,
so
I'm
I
was
thrilled
in
reading
it
and
I'm
sure
the
community
would
love
to
hear
about
it.
C
C
I
know
everyone
here
today
has,
at
some
point
in
their
life,
been
face
to
face
with
some
type
of
trauma
or
emergency
situation
as
pastors
businessmen,
fire
chiefs
teachers,
journalists
and
veterans
of
our
military.
You
experienced
this
firsthand
in
your
jobs
and
then
encountered
two
back-to-back
events
last
year
that
shook
our
community
to
its
core.
I'm
here
today
to
tell
you
about
saturday
of
safety,
which
is
a
free
event
that
grace
bible
church
of
newbury
park
has
hosted
for
the
past
two
years,
this
being
its
third
year.
C
The
educational
topics
being
taught
at
this
year
include
the
stop.
The
bleed
program,
which
was
created
by
the
american
college
of
surgeons,
how
to
give
adult
and
infant
cpr
how
to
rescue
an
adult,
an
infant
from
choking
how
to
use
an
automatic
external
device
defibrillator
how
to
rescue
from
drowning,
how
to
recognize
signs
and
symptoms
of
a
heart
attack
and
stroke
how
to
use
an
epi
pen
and
disaster
preparedness.
C
The
ventura
county
fire
department
is
also
expected
to
attend
to
teach
on
fire
safety,
barring
we
don't
have
any
wildfires.
Why
is
this
important?
I'm
so
glad
you
asked.
Why
is
this
important
every
40
seconds,
someone
in
the
u.s
has
a
heart
attack
every
40
seconds.
Someone
has
a
stroke.
Only
25
percent
of
those
surveyed
know
all
major
symptoms
of
a
heart
attack
and
when
to
call
9-1-1
drowning
is
the
number
one
cause
of
death
in
children
one
to
four
years
in
age
and
unfortunately,
in
pediatrics.
I've
seen
this
way
too
much
in
my
lifetime.
C
Forty
percent
of
children
with
the
food
allergy
have
experienced
a
severe
allergic
reaction,
such
as
anaphylaxis
epinephrine,
is
the
only
effective
treatment
and
must
be
injected
within
minutes
of
onset
of
symptoms.
A
quarter
of
the
epipen
injections
at
schools
involve
individuals
with
an
unknown
food.
Allergy
60
of
americans
are
not
practicing
for
a
disaster
and
41
are
not
prepared.
At
all
trauma
is
the
leading
cause
of
death
in
individuals.
C
C
This
is
why
it's
important
a
person
can
bleed
to
death
in
five
to
eight
minutes.
It
takes
on
average,
emerging
emergency
medical
service
members,
at
least
seven
minutes
to
arrive
and
in
rural
areas.
It
takes
about
10
minutes
in
active
shooter
events.
It
can
take
more
than
30
minutes
for
ems,
police
or
fire
to
come
and
aid
those
who
are
wounded
because
they
have
to
make
sure
the
situation
is
safe.
First
now
I
want
to
emphasize
that
this
event
is
to
prepare
individuals
to
respond
to
both
acts
of
terror,
as
well
as
just
normal.
C
Everyday
accidents
and
allergic
reactions.
Accidents
happen.
Anaphylactic
allergies
are
on
the
rise
and
we
experience
both
major
fires
and
strong
earthquakes
within
the
last
year.
Knowledge
is
power.
We
want
to
empower
our
community
to
be
safer
by
teaching
others
how
to
be
first
responders.
We
want
to
take
away
the
shock
factor
of
these
events
so
that
people
can
just
tap
into
the
knowledge
that
they
have
received
and
respond
appropriately
to
keep
their
loved
ones
and
those
around
them
alive.
I'm
sorry
am
I
out
of
time
yep,
I'm
sorry,
that's!
Okay!
You
did
great.
B
And
thank
you
for
this
and
folks
participate.
Thank
you
anna.
Thank
you.
All
right
well
done
following
anna
will
be
sam
wagner.
H
H
We
entered
into
a
lease
agreement
with
ventura
seed
several
weeks
ago,
and
after
much
due
diligence
and
research,
we
became
educated
as
to
what
ventura
seed
does
and
they're
involved
in
the
processing
of
industrial
or
commercial
hemp.
They
don't
have
anything
to
do
with
thc
and
the
particular
property
owner
that
I
represent
usa
caneo
llc,
who
owns
this
35
000
square
foot.
H
So
as
of
2018,
the
processing
of
industrial
hemp
in
california
was
legalized
that
documentation
and
also
the
operational
statement
for
ventura
seed
was
presented
to
staff
earlier
this
evening,
and
we've
been
working
with
one
of
the
staff
members
on
the
planning
staff.
I
think
mr
hader,
so
we're
hoping
that,
after
consideration
tonight
that
the
city
council,
the
city
attorney
and
the
planning
department
can
mediate
any
differences
the
city
attorney
may
have,
and
we
can
come
to
a
resolution.
H
I
Good
to
see
you,
mr
mayor
council,
members,
adam
haverstock,
I
am
the
director
of
government
affairs
and
tourism
at
the
greater
kaneho
valley
chamber
of
commerce,
with
a
couple
updates
for
you
this
evening,
first
and
foremost,
a
big
thank
you
to
mayor
mccoy.
We
had
our
board
of
directors
meeting
this
afternoon
and
he
very
graciously
took
some
time
out
of
his
calendar
to
come
and
speak
to
our
board.
So
thank
you
for
doing
that.
I
know
the
board
really
appreciated
it.
I
First,
I
wanted
to
let
you
guys
know
about
an
event
coming
up.
Hopefully,
you've
heard
about
it
already
the
taste
of
kaneho.
It
is
our
largest
fundraiser
at
the
chamber
of
commerce.
It
also
happens
to
be
a
big
food
and
wine
festival.
That's
going
to
happen
on
friday
october
11th,
at
the
four
seasons
hotel
in
westlake
village.
It's
going
to
be
from
6
to
9
p.m.
I
That's
7
to
9
p.m,
general
admission
and
then
then
six
to
seven
is
a
vip
hour
for
people
that
buy
vip
tickets.
It's
gonna
be
over
120
food
and
beverage
sampling
booths
at
that
event
and
tickets
are
for
sale
at
tasteofcaneo.com.
So
hopefully
we
will
see
you
all
there
and
hopefully
the
public
would
like
to
come
and
attend
as
well.
I
The
chamber
of
commerce
is
offering
a
new
service
in
partnership
with
california
chamber.
I've
mentioned
it
here
before,
but
it
may
be
new
to
some
of
the
members
of
the
public.
There
is
a
requirement
that
full-time
employees
receive
one
hour
of
workplace
harassment,
training
every
two
years
and
that
supervisors
get
two
hours
of
workplace
harassment
training.
Every
two
years
the
state
of
california
did
push
back
the
deadline
to
have
that
training
completed
to
january
1st
of
2021.
I
used
to
say
here
that
it
was
2020.
I
That's
been
pushed
back
a
year,
but
it
is
still
going
to
be
required.
California,
chamber
of
commerce,
has
created
an
online
service
with
all
of
the
required
information
for
that
training.
They
have
given
it
to
us
at
greater
kane
valley,
chamber
of
commerce
and
we're
offering
it
to
the
public.
So
you
do
not
need
to
be
a
member
of
the
chamber
to
access
that
service.
There
is
a
discount
for
chamber
members,
but
anyone
can
come
to
the
chamber
and
pay
for
that
service
to
get
their
employees
trained
and
then.
I
Finally,
on
the
tourism
side,
I
wanted
to
give
you
an
update
about
a
new
campaign,
we're
doing
we're,
calling
it
our
hashtag
campaign.
The
goal
of
it
is
to
get
additional
social
media
buzz
and
interest
for
visit,
canelo
valley,
and
so
we
figured
there's
no
better
way
to
do
that
than
just
give
people
free
stuff.
So
here's
what
we're
doing
we
actually.
I
On
the
projector,
I've
also
got
coasters
for
restaurants
and
bars,
and
also
table
tents
for
restaurants.
That
all
say,
hey.
If
you
go
and
you
tag
visit,
canelo
valley,
with
a
social
media
post
on
instagram
or
facebook
and
use
the
hashtag
see
conejo
valley,
you're
going
to
be
entered
in
a
contest
and
once
a
month
you
can
win
a
gift
card.
We
just
gave
a
winner
a
gift
card
to
tarantula
hill
brewing
company.
B
I
Thank
you
mayor
mccoy,
just
a
couple
of
quick
items
of
follow-up.
We'll
certainly
do
our
best
to
help
help
promote
the
saturday
of
safety
event.
I
always
appreciate
adam's
reports
and,
as
it
relates
to
the
item
on
industrial
hemp
and
manufacturing,
the
speaker
mentioned
that
will
be
a
subject
of
agenda
item
9a
and
that's
actually
part
of
the
presentation
that
will
be
discussed
at
that
point
in
time.
I
I
wanted
to
make
one
additional
note
that
we
do
have
our
and
mr
tato
mention
it
up
front,
but
we
do
have
our
next
thousand
oaks
general
plan
2045
visioning
session.
Coming
up
this
thursday,
it's
going
to
be
at
the
los
robles,
queens
greens,
golf
course
in
the
sunset
room
starts
at
six
o'clock
goes
till
8
30..
It's
our
first
big
community
workshop
just
want
to
encourage
everyone
to
spread
the
word
on
that
and
come
out
and
join
us.
B
All
right
that
brings
us
to
the
consent,
calendar
questions
or
motion
council
member
bill
de
la
pena.
B
F
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
council,
members,
members
of
the
public.
The
purpose
of
tonight's
meeting
is
to
update
the
municipal
code,
definitions,
the
use
categories
and
the
permitting
requirements
in
order
to
better
reflect
the
involving
biotechnology
sector.
Biotechnology
has
really
been
around
predominantly
over
the
past
50
years,
but
has
evolved
rapidly
within
the
past
10
to
20
years
itself
and
by
biotechnology
businesses.
They
actually
tend
to
locate
in
particular
areas.
Southern
california
is
one
of
those
major
conglomerations
of
biotechnology
uses.
We
actually
have
what's
called
biotechnology
beach
here.
F
It's
vans
from
san
diego
all
the
way
up,
2000
oaks
thousand
oaks
is
looking
to
try
and
capture
that,
and
it's
actually
been
codified
inside
of
the
policies
that
has
then
manifested
into
the
background
for
this
municipal
code
amendment.
The
city
council
actually
initiated
the
amendment
back
in
july,
directing
staff
to
research,
biotechnology
sectors
and
how
the
code
can
actually
be
updated
in
order
to
better
address
the
needs
of
that
particular
business
sector.
F
Taking
a
look
at
all
of
that
staff
then
prepared
it's
the
proposed
definitions.
The
current
code
actually
does
not
contain
any
adequate
definition
for
the
biotechnology
sector,
so
staff
was
actually
able
to
research
other
jurisdictions
and
created
this
particular
definition
as
contained
within
here.
It's
actually
focusing
more
on
the
technical
research
and
design
development
and
testing
of
technological
and
biological
components.
F
Now
all
that
biotechnology
the
uses
they
tend
to
be
less
intensive
than
you
would
find
in
your
traditional
industrial
research
and
development,
industrial
prop
processes,
they
have
less
of
the
new
nuisances,
so
less
odors
and
noise,
and
they
reflect
more
of
what's,
would
be
classified
as
a
light
industrial
use.
So
where
in
the
city
would
that
actually
be
located?
Staff
then
identified
it's
what's
called
the
m1
zone,
the
industrial
park
zone
and
that
zone
by
its
own
definition
is
geared
more
for
this
light.
F
Industrial
use
and
the
m1
zone
is
actually
located
in
two
primary
areas
of
the
city
they're,
actually
along
the
the
east
and
west
sides
of
the
city
bookending
the
101
corridor,
the
largest
concentration
is
actually
the
rancho
conejo
area.
There's
approximately
1200
acres
of
m1
zoning
located
within
that
one
area
itself.
F
Now,
now
that
we
have
identified
the
actual
locations
of
where
the
biotechnology
uses
can
go,
we
then
have
to
address
how
the
can
those
the
biotechnology
sector
can
locate
within
that
particular
zone.
Under
the
current
regula,
the
regulations
biotechnology
would
be
classified
under
the
research
and
development
use
category.
F
It's
an
older
use,
it
doesn't
exactly
address
the
needs,
the
current
needs
of
biotechnology,
and
so,
if
that
particular
use
wants
to
locate
within
400
feet
of
an
existing
residential
uses,
it
will
trigger
what's
called
a
special
use
permit,
and
so
it's
a
very
it's
a
lengthy
process
outside
of
that.
It's
a
development
permit.
F
However,
given
the
nature
of
the
less
intensive
nature
of
this
particular
sector,
staff
is
proposing
that
it
just
be
allowed
to
go
into
the
all
of
the
m1
zones
through
the
development
permit
process,
and
that
is
really
recognizing,
as
I've
mentioned
before,
that
this
particular
use.
It's
has
less
of
those
nuisances
that
you
would
have
with
the
industrial
processes,
so
less
noise,
less
odors,
less
particulate
distribution,
and
that's
also
mainly
because
right
now,
the
current
code,
it
ident
it
lumps
biotechnology
together
with
garment
and
textile
manufacturing,
tire
rebranding
entire
manufacturing.
F
So
it's
these
other,
more
intensive
heavier
uses
that
biotechnology
doesn't
actually
gel
with
associated
with
all
of
those
the
permitting
procedures,
staff
also
looked
at
the
parking
requirements
for
biotech
use.
They
do
tend
to
be
a
little
bit
less
intensive
and
in
order
to
get
a
better
understanding,
staff
did
research.
It
was
seven
other
jurisdictions
primarily
located
within
ventura
county.
However,
we
also
did
identify
south
san
jose
south
san
francisco
and
san
jose.
F
Now
taking
a
look
at
all
of
their
their
particular
parking
requirements,
we
did
notif
notice
that
the
range
parking
resulted
from
half
a
space
up
to
3.33
spaces
per
thousand
square
feet
and
then
focusing
down
onto
ventura
county.
It
was
we're
hitting
about
that
two
two
spaces
per
thousand
square
feet.
Therefore,
staff
is
taking
that
into
consideration
and
proposing
that
it's
one
space
per
500
square
feet
of
net
floor
area
and
then
under
the
current
regulations
by
right
or
I'm
sorry
under
proposed
regulations,
they
would
allow
20
of
their
gross
building
area.
F
However,
as
soon
as
we
get
over
that
20
percent,
we
then
the
use
of
the
building
actually
changes
from
a
biotechnology
use
that
industrial
use
into
something
more
of
an
truly
office
which
will
have
more
of
a
higher
demand,
and
so
that's
when
it
would
require
one
to
three
hundred
one
space
per
300
square
feet
of
the
building
area.
To
really
address
that
a
little
bit
of
a
change
to
show
how
this
would
actually
affect
could
potentially
impact
real-life
scenarios.
F
We
did
look
at
the
atara
building,
which
is
an
existing
biotech
company
out
in
the
conejo
area,
and
currently
their
office
area
only
comprises
approximately
13
of
the
floor
area.
Staff
then
also
looked
at
several
of
the
large
industrial
buildings
that
are
proposed
for
the
neo
areas.
The
rancho
conejo
area
as
well,
and
those
averaged
about
only
nine
percent
of
the
building
floor
area
would
have
been
purely
for
office.
F
Space
use,
the
rest
of
it
was
going
to
be
for
the
industrial
and
back
of
house
operations,
so
this
20
is
still
being
very,
is
very
generous
in
that
matter,
and
just
kind
of
give
you
a
real
life
or
a
fictitious
example.
With
some
kind
of
harder
numbers
say
we
take
a
hundred
thousand
square
foot
building
eighty
approximately
eighty
three
thousand
square
feet
of
that
industrial
area.
F
So
all
the
the
laboratories
storage
warehousing
areas,
that's
included
in
there,
and
then
you
have
about
70
200
square
feet
of
the
net
office
area
with,
say,
300
employees
under
the
existing
regulations.
That
would
require
that
particular
business
to
provide
216
parking
spaces.
However,
under
the
proposed
regulations
it
only
require
180
parking
spaces.
This
is
a
significant
reduction
in
required
parking
that
can
actually
really
help
to
draw
in
these
potential
businesses
into
the
city
in
order
to
help
diversify
the
the
job
requirements.
F
So
how
does
all
of
this?
These
amendments
actually
come?
How
are
they
consistent
with
the
general
with
the
city
policies?
Well,
the
municipal
code
amendment.
It
actually
helps
to
encourage
these
lighter
industrial
uses
and
this
this
high-tech
and
science-based
businesses
to
locate
in
the
within
the
city,
which
is
consistent
with
the
general
plan.
F
Furthermore,
it
is
consistent
with
the
citywide
priority
which
the
city
council
had
set
earlier
this
year,
because
this
municip
this
code,
amendment
specifically
focuses
on
that
growing
biotechnology
sector,
which
we
can
see
it's
actually
growing
across
the
entire
state,
as
well
as
across
the
entire
country,
and
then
this
code
amendment
also
is
consistent
with
the
city
council's
goals
for
the
city,
by
focusing
on
the
higher
technology
by
biomedical
jobs,
in
order
to
create
a
stronger
and
more
diverse
local
employment
base
for
the
city.
F
Now
the
entire
amendment
it
actually
is
exempt
from
the
provisions
of
sequa,
using
the
common
sense
exemption
as
we're
moving
for
as
proposed.
Therefore,
staff
is
recommending
that
the
city
council
first
find
that
the
municipal
code
amendment
is
exempt
from
the
provisions
of
ceqa
and
two
to
adopt
the
draft
ordinance
as
proposed.
Thank
you.
B
F
J
F
So
we
haven't,
as
currently
pro,
even
under
the
current
regulations.
There
is
no
issue,
but
then
even
looking
at
the
other
jurisdictions,
there
haven't
been
any
issues
with
that
because
there's
alternate
modes
of
transportation
to
get
their
rideshare
programs
carpooling
in
order
to
get
to
these
particular
locations,
and
so
it's
not
foreseen
that
there
would
be
any
impact
in
terms
of
parking
location
parking
at
these.
These
particular
locations
for
that,
and
it's
really
just
coming
down
to
how
the
people
are
actually
getting
to
work
itself.
F
There
are
opportunities
for
that;
they
actually
do
exist
out,
particularly
in
the
rancho
conejo
industrial
area.
There
are
opportunity
locations
that
have
you
have
the
industrial,
it's
effectively
conduit
industrial
buildings
and
they
have
its
communal
parking
that
surrounds
it,
so
that
it
already
exists
out
in
that
particular
area,
and
there
are
multiple
opportunities
in
the
future
for
this
shared
parking
to
to
occur.
F
West
lake
area
there
are,
there
are
other
opportunities,
smaller
instances
of
shared
parking
within
the
westlake
area,
a
majority
of
the
existing
structures
out
there
they
actually
they're
compliant
with
today's
standards,
which
are
far
and
above
beyond
the
requirements
for
the
biotechnology
sector.
So
there's
still
there's
a
lot
of
play
room
in
terms
of
parking
numbers.
If
a
biotech
company
were
to
locate
within
the
westlake
industrial
area,.
K
Well,
I
think
it's
very
healthy
to
go
back
and
look
at
some
of
our
ordinances
from
the
past
and
modernize
them,
and
this
is
a
perfect
example
of
that.
This
original
ordinance
was
designed
to
keep
heavy
manufacturing
away
from
residents
tire
manufacturing
engine
testing,
garment
manufacturing.
Obviously,
that's
not
what
biotech
companies
do
these
days,
so
this
will
enable
a
biotech
company
to
come
into
our
area
without
having
to
get
a
special
use,
permit
and
operate
in
the
m1
zone
and
do
things
a
little
more
exciting
entire
manufacturing.
K
Do
things
like
artificial
intelligence
and
robotics
and
genetics
testing
some
of
the
things
that
are
very
important
to
mankind
and
very
important
to
this
community
we're
trying
to
build
a
biotech
sector,
and
this
is
going
to
help
that
happen.
Relaxing
the
parking
standards
helps
a
little
as
well
matches
them
up
to
what
the
real
parking
needs
are
so
and
I'm
very
happy
that
we
created
a
new
category
called
technology
and
life
sciences
makes
a
lot
more
sense
than
the
category
we
had
before
garment
manufacturing.
K
We
don't
see
a
lot
of
that
here
in
thousand
oaks,
so
I
would
like
to
move
8a.
It's
a
very
wise
and
necessary
update
to
the
municipal
code.
H
I'm
sure
the
public
is
heartened
to
know
that
we
use
common
sense,
and
would
you
please
explain
what
the
common
sense,
except
that
doesn't
mean
we're
exempt
from
common
sense.
F
No,
no,
that
it
doesn't
so
as
contained
within
the
california
environmental
equality
act.
There's
section
15061.
F
It
is
colloquially
known
as
the
common
sense
exemption,
and
it's
really
meant
to
apply
to
projects
that
have
no
foreseeable
significant
impact
on
the
environment
in
this
particular
instance,
since
we're
just
modifying
existing
city
regulations
to
better
match
up
to
today
to
today's
requirements
and
we're
going
through
that
clarification,
there's
no
actual
physical
development
with
it
the
project,
the
municipal
code,
amendment
is
able
to
fall
under
this
common
sense
exemption.
F
It
doesn't
mean
that
any
new
project.
So
if
there's
going
to
be
a
new
development
going
into
particular
areas
of
new
ground
up
that
those
particular
projects
will
have
their
own
environmental
review
under
that.
But
for
this
amendment
itself
it
just
falls
under
this.
H
So,
in
this
case,
using
the
common
sense
exemption,
what
what
is
one
item
that
this
applies
to
in
this
particular
application?
Is
it
the
parking?
Is
it.
F
Yeah,
so
the
the
exemption
applies
to
the
entire
amendment
itself,
because
we
are
just
modifying
since
we
are
modifying
all
the
existing
and
the
parking
really
is
matching
up
with
other
parking
standards
that
the
city
already
has
in
the
code.
So
it's
really
just
kind
of
clarifying
all
existing
standards
so
that
it
applies
only
to
this
one
particular
use
type.
H
B
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mayor,
a
quick
question
on
and
I'm
with,
councilmember
adams,
I'm
full
support
of
doing
what
we
can
do
to
encourage
our
our
conversion
to
this
type
of
technology,
and
I
have
one
question,
though:
the
the
assumption
is
that
this
type
will
be
a
low
impact
type
industry
in
an
area
that
sometimes
gets
very
close
to
some
housing.
Do
we
have
any
way
of
addressing
those
times
when
perhaps
any
process
extends
past
the
boundary
of
the
property?
That
then
affects
the
residential.
F
So,
just
to
kind
of
click,
just
to
clarify
your
question:
it's
if
the
proposed
business
is
going
into
a
particular
location.
D
F
As
for
that
it
is,
it
falls
under
the
code,
compliance
so
the
city,
we
have
so
say
it's
a
noise.
We
have
this
noise
ordnance
that
would
then
be
applied
to
that
particular
business
in
order
to
mitigate
any
noise
issues
for
adjacent
properties,
same
thing
with,
if
any
odors
or
particulate
matter
is
generated.
The
city
already
has
ordinances
and
regulations
that
are
set
in
order
to
address
all
of
those
and
as
a
project
is
going
through
the
the
plant
check.
F
So
if
they're
going
located
inside
an
existing
structure,
they
have
to
go
through
it's
the
plan
check
process
and
during
that
you're
also
going
to
have
the
fire
department's
going
to
be
reviewing
it
for
their
issues,
environmental,
health
building
and
safety.
So
they're
going
to
be
looking
at
multiple
different
aspects
of
an
existing
structure,
but
ultimately
it
does
come
down
to
our
code
and
code
compliance.
D
C
C
L
L
L
This
summary
shows
the
city's
expended
just
over
460
thousand
dollars
in
program
year,
2018-19
cdbg
funds,
a
balance
of
approximately
548
000,
will
be
carried
forward
to
program
year
2019,
which
started
on
july.
1St
staff
is
recommending
that
city
council
approve
program
year,
2018
caper
report
for
submittal
to
the
u.s
department
of
housing
and
urban
development.
L
B
J
C
A
speaker
card
is
available
for
those
wishing
to
address
the
city
council
regarding
this
public
hearing.
All
documents
for
city
council
and
the
official
city
record
should
be
presented
to
the
city
clerk
prior
to
speaking.
Speakers
are
requested
to
state
their
name
and
community
of
residents
for
the
record.
Eight
individuals
have
presented
speaker
cards
and
pursuant
to
council
standards,
each
speaker
will
have
four
minutes.
The
yellow
light
displays
when
you
have
one
minute
remaining.
B
M
M
It's
an
aerial
perspective
of
the
site.
As
you
can
see,
it
is
vacant,
it
is
bound
in
red
on
the
aerial
to
the
west
is
moore
park.
M
M
M
As
shown
here
is
a
site
plan
of
the
proposed
project,
a
convenience
store
is
located
in
the
southeast
corner
of
the
site.
It's
about
2500
square
feet
around
the
perimeter
and
adjacent
to
kai
jasmine
is
a
10
foot
landscape
strip,
as
well
as
a
privacy
wall
located
it's
a
continuation
of
the
east
wall
of
the
building
and
continues
down
the
side
property
line.
M
M
M
M
This
is
a
rendering
of
what
the
proposed
station
will
look
like
it's
a
disadvantage,
point
from
the
intersection
of
moore
park
and
florist
looking
southeast
and
the
foreground.
You
see
the
landscape
planters,
the
fuel
pump
areas,
the
trellis
above
the
fuel
pumps,
the
convenience
store,
in
the
backdrop
with
these
large
storefront
windows
and
the
stone
veneer,
the
privacy
wall
on
the
east
property
line
area
and
then
again,
the
additional
landscaping
and
driveway
off
of
avenidas
forest.
M
This
is
another
perspective
looking
through
the
site
through
the
southwest
again,
the
site
improvements,
the
privacy
wall
along
kaya,
jazz,
along
with
a
landscape
planner
and
the
service
station
building.
What's
not
shown
in
this
image
are
proposed
trees
along
the
plantar
and
jasmine,
which
the
next
image
incorporates.
M
As
a
matter
of
background,
a
special
use
permit
is
required
for
service
stations
in
the
commercial
shopping
centers
zone
which
is
site,
is
zoned
and
for
all
service
station
requests,
either
new
or
remodeled
service
stations.
The
city
council
resolution
regarding
service
station
applies
and
the
city
council
resolution
1972-33
was
applied
to
this
request.
M
M
The
key
differences
between
the
first
project
and
the
project
before
you
this
evening
are
shown
here
in
this
table.
The
first
iteration
included
24-hour
operation
on
a
daily
basis.
This
proposal
is
21
hours
from
5
a.m,
to
2
a.m.
On
a
daily
basis,
first
proposal
did
not
include
tobacco
vapor
alcohol.
This
this
proposal
does
not
include
vape
or
alcohol
at
the
time
when
the
project
was
submitted,
the
law
size
was.
The
plan
demonstrated
a
lot
of
size
less
than
20
000
square
feet,
which
is
the
minimum
required
for
our
service
stations.
M
Subsequently,
the
app
canada
engineer
surveyed
the
lot
and
determined
it
was
20
000
square
feet.
So
this
is
not
a
waiver
and
public
outreach
conducted
by
the
applicant
in
the
first
application
was
sent
to
three
people
properties
within
300
feet
and
in
this
recent
application
they
extended
that
to
500
feet.
M
The
key
purpose
of
a
special
use
permit
is
to
determine
whether
or
not
a
proposed
use
is
appropriate
for
its
surrounding
area.
The
key
difference
between
the
special
use
permit
and
the
development
permit
is
the
development
permit
identifies
uses
that
are
allowed
in
a
in
a
certain
zone
where
a
special
use
permit
is
not
allowed
as
a
matter
of
right,
and
the
key
issue
in
evaluating
a
project
under
the
special
use
permit
process
is
to
determine
that
the
proposal
is
compatible
and
appropriate
for
that
for
the
neighborhood
that's
around
it.
M
So
shown
here,
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
them
all,
but
these
are
the
five
findings
the
code
prescribes
for
making
for
approving
a
special
use
permit.
The
first
four
are
applicable
to
any
permit
a
development
permit
or
a
special
use,
permit,
the
fifth
being
the
key
criteria
and
finding
that
must
be
made
to
a
previous
special
use
permit-
and
this
case
was
key
in
the
decision
by
the
planning
commission
that
the
proposed
use
at
its
proposed
location
will
be
compatible
with
land
uses
in
the
vicinity.
M
M
The
planning
commission
determined
the
proposed
project
and
its
operation
was
detrimental
health,
safety
and
general
welfare
because
of
the
24
hour
operation
and
its
proximity
to
residential
being
only
60
feet
and
that
the
operation
itself
will
create
noise
and
light.
That
is
not
typical
for
this
area.
M
M
And
this
brings
me
to
the
property
across
moore
park,
road
to
the
north.
The
shopping
center
I
I
identified
earlier
was
originally
a
drive-through
dairy
back
in
the
60s
and
it
had
a
history
of
students,
congregating
on
a
site
and
creating
trash
and
nuisance
to
customers,
as
well
as
to
the
neighborhood
adjacent
to
it.
M
In
doing
so,
council
adopted
use
restrictions
on
the
property
intended
to
prevent
students
from
congregating
and
eliminate
that
problem,
and
the
uses
that
are
allowed
at
that
shopping
center
are
low
intensity
uses.
A
convenience
store
would
not
be
allowed
at
that
location
and
in
1987
the
structure
the
building
itself
was
approved
and
those
uses
the
use
restrictions
approved
by
the
zone
change
were
adopted
by
the
development
permit.
M
This
this
appeal
was
submitted
in
a
unique
format,
as
you
may
have
noted
by
in
the
staff
report.
The
grounds
for
appeal
were
not
specific
to
the
findings
made
for
denial
by
the
planning
commission.
M
Instead,
the
the
grounds
for
appeal
focus
on
planning
commission
deliberation
during
the
public
hearing
process,
as
well
as
staff
suggested
conditions
contained
in
the
attached
staff,
is
attached
to
the
staff
report.
Should
the
planning
commission
elect
to
approve
the
project
which
they
did
not
just
for
clarification?
M
The
appeal
references,
the
1967
guidelines,
which
were
the
initial
guidelines
adopted,
and
there
were
subsequent
three
subsequent
amendments
to
that
and
the
epic
will
be
in
the
1972
guidelines.
M
In
response
to
the
appeal
comments
for
more
detailed
response,
please
refer
the
staff
report.
There's
it's
a
little
bit
lengthy,
but
the
comments
made
in
the
public
hearing
at
the
planning
commission
do
not
constitute
findings.
This
is
discussion
and
evaluating
the
project
and
we're
not
necessarily
the
findings
made
to
deny
the
project.
M
N
M
Projects
within
200
feet
of
a
residential
area
and
that
the
roofing
materials
discussed
in
the
applicant's
appeal.
They
were
not
a
funding
for
denial,
their
recommendation
by
staff,
and
that
was
that
the
project
was
approved
and
again
staff's
recommendation
was
not
for
approval.
The
planning
commission
did
not
approve
it.
M
So,
to
sum
up,
the
south's
primary
concern
is
that
the
proposed
use
is
not
compatible
with
the
area.
We
have
sensitive
uses
across
the
street,
the
residential
area
immediately
to
the
east
and
northeast,
as
well
as
the
proximity
to
the
high
school
and
concerns
with
the
conflicts
created
by
the
pedestrians
and
the
cars.
B
Thank
you,
mr
kearns
questions
from
the
council.
I
will
begin
with
council
member.
H
Jones,
mr
mayor,
I
just
wanted
a
general
question
here.
We
have
a
denial,
we
had
two
denials
and,
and
now
we
have
an
appeal
and
we've
just
heard
the
grounds
for
the
denials
and
the
other
aspects
of
the
plan.
Are
our
remarks
limited
to
the
reasons
that
we're
given
in
the
denial
and
the
appeal?
In
other
words,
could
we
ask
other
questions
about
the
project
other
than
those
strictly
relative
to
the
appeal.
O
So
the
the
appeal
that's
before
you
is
only
for
the
second
project.
The
applicant
did
not
appeal
the
first
project.
So
what
is
before
you
tonight
is
the
project
as
proposed
by
the
applicant,
but
with
respect
to
what
questions
the
council
can
ask
and
what
areas
council
can
convey
support
concerns.
Whatever
it's
wide
open,
you
can
ask
questions
on
all
aspects
of
the
project
so.
B
M
B
B
All
right
well,
there's
no
further
questions
from
the
council,
so
it's
we
have
speakers,
it
will
be
the
the
applicant
will
speak
15
minutes
and
so
you're
up.
Welcome.
N
Actually,
I'm
the
architect
and
my
address
is
4765
via
don
louise
thousand
oaks.
The
applicant
is
also
here
tonight.
Should
you
have
questions.
N
N
N
N
Because,
where
we
have,
it
is
where
they
ask
us
to
put
it,
we
didn't
know
they
didn't
like
the
building
location
until
three
days
before
the
planning
commission
hearing,
at
which
time
they
recommended
denial,
because
we
asked
for
a
variance.
How
do
you
build
without
a
variance?
I
don't
understand
it.
N
N
N
N
My
client
and
I
picked
a
material
and
color
recommended
by
the
design
guidelines.
We
followed
the
design
guidelines
to
pick
a
color
and
a
material,
since
my
client
is
not
required
to
match
the
adjacent,
roofs
or
the
design
guidelines.
We
request
you
eliminate
condition,
number
17
that
actually
request.
We
violate
the
design
guidelines.
N
N
N
B
Thank
you,
mr
scribner.
Probably
at
the
end,
when
we
finish
with
the
remaining
of
the
public
speakers,
we'll
have
questions
for
you
just
before
your
rebuttal.
Okay.
Thank
you,
sir
thank
you
and
mr
scribner.
Thank
you
for
stating
your
place
of
address
in
residence,
and
I
would
ask
that
of
the
public
speakers.
B
If
you
would,
it
would
help
us,
because
this
is
a
community
concern,
and
so
with
that
our
first
public
speaker,
you
have
four
minutes,
since
we
have
nine
of
you,
john
mclaughlin,
if
you're
here,
you're
up
and
then
following
john
will
be
najeed
kamaz.
P
P
P
Currently,
the
bus
stop
when
the
bus
pulls
up
to
the
bus,
stop
it
can't
park
at
the
bus,
stop
because
it's
too
close
to
the
traffic
light.
So
if
you
actually
ever
do
a
traffic
study,
there
you'll
see
that
that
bus
pulls
in
front
of
the
bus
stop,
which
will
be
directly
across
the
driveway,
the
exit
driveway
to
the
gas
station.
P
I
moved
into
this
area
18
months
ago.
I
work
in
real
estate.
In
the
10
years,
I've
been
working
in
real
estate.
No
one's
ever
asked
me
to
live
next
to
a
gas
station
when
I
drive
clients
around
civil,
similar
areas-
and
I
tell
them
that
there's
a
proposal
or
there's
a
gas
station
there,
people
tell
me
they
don't
want
to
live
next
to
a
gas
station.
P
So
with
the
people
living
in
the
immediate
area,
this
is
going
to
have
an
effect
on
their
property
prices.
The
curb
appeal
to
people
in
this
area,
in
particular
my
property
as
well,
is
not
going
to
be
too
well
when
we
want
to
sell
this
property.
P
One
of
the
concerns
for
me
is
that
my
daughter
she's
only
six
and
a
half
the
long
term
is
that
she
wants
to
go
to
this
high
school.
I
don't
want
my
daughter,
walking
past
the
gas
station
with
all
the
problems
that
can
be
associated
with
this
gas
station
and
living
in
this
area.
That's
going
to
be
open
21
hours
a
day.
P
There
is
going
to
be
problems
with
noise.
It
is
a
noisy
road,
but
we're
going
to
add
noise
to
this
area
with
cars.
Pulling
up
people
with
radios,
talking
and
and
other
things
at
night
there's
also
a
vagrance
problem
which
is
coming
in
this
area
now,
which
is
going
to
be
accelerated
with
with
this
gas
station
here.
I
believe
the
target
for
this
gas
station
is
the
children
that
in
the
high
school
there
is
going
to
be
people
conjugating
in
this
gas
station
they
congregate
there
now
waiting
for
their
bus.
P
It's
going
to
be
filling
up
with
kids
and
we
have
already
found
out
that
selling
of
alcohol,
tobacco
and
vapes
there's
going
to
be
some
restrictions
on
there,
but
that's
that's
going
to
encourage
other
people
to
come
into
the
area
and
sell
other
things
other
things
that
are
not
legal
in
the
area
which
we
know
is
going
to
happen.
There
is
going
to
be
trash
in
the
area.
P
Even
though
there's
going
to
be
trash
cans
in
the
gas
station,
the
trash
is
going
to
come
outside
the
area
because
people
are
going
to
just
put
stuff
down
it
happens
now.
So
what
we're
doing
is
we're
introducing
this
into
an
area
that
we
don't
really
want.
Again.
I
oppose
this.
I
don't
think
it's
a
great
idea
when
I
moved
into
this
area
when
I
bought
into
this
area.
This
wasn't
on
the
proposal
when
people
are
buying
in
this
area.
Now
this
is
now
proposal.
E
I
live
at
616
east
avenue
de
las
flores.
I
am
the
house
right
across
from
the
proposed
project,
I'm
the
kindergartner
and
angled
house.
Thank
you
and
I
I
oppose
this
project
in
several
grounds.
E
The
applicant
was
kind
enough
in
the
planning
commission
meeting
to
share
with
the
public
that,
somewhere
between
25
to
30
percent
of
their
revenue
of
this
based
on
7-eleven
statistics
comes
from
sales
of
tobacco
products,
and
I've
been
right
across
the
street
from
high
school.
That's
outrageous,
and
even
for
them
wanting
to
move
forward
with
this
project.
E
On
the
other
hand,
they
don't
meet
the
setback,
if
you
consider
giving
them
the
setback
waiver
that
they
are
asking
for
you're
simply
taken
away
from
my
rights,
so
it's
either
me
or
them.
Okay,
I
don't
object
having
a
project
there,
but
simply
a
711
is
not
suitable
for
the
pro,
for
that
pro
site
come
up
with
something
else,
something
that
works
for
the
community.
This
is
not
it.
7
11
is
not
it
and.
E
E
E
The
community
has
been
overwhelmingly
against
this
project
since
its
inception.
The
planning
commission
has
twice
been
against
approval
of
this
project.
There
really
is
no
good
reason
to
place
a
21-hour
gas
station
711
across
the
street
from
the
high
school
in
a
residential
area.
This
is
a
central
business
district
project.
E
This
will
not
be
good
for
our
community.
There
will
be
problems
of
more
vagrancy.
I
believe
the
trash
issue
is
going
to
be
bad.
I
believe
that
the
traffic
is
going
to
be
horrendous,
there's
going
to
be
many
accidents
if
you're
familiar
with
the
area
in
the
mornings
and
the
afternoon
with
the
students,
it's
already
extremely
busy,
it's
just
not
going
to
be
a
good
situation.
E
E
E
My
name
is
timothy
corbett,
I'm
at
417
columbia,
road
got
a
couple
of
questions.
I
asked
the
planning
commission
last
time
about
the
site
being
cleaned
up
and
the
architect
briefly
addressed
that
tonight
that
the
site
had
been
cleaned
but
according
to
the
state
website,
that
address
is
still
on
the
state
website
as
a
contaminated
site.
So
my
question
to
the
planning
commission
last
time
was:
were
the
tanks
removed?
E
E
E
Oh,
we
ran
into
contaminated
soil,
okay,
so
now
who's
paying
for
that
cleanup
us
the
developer,
the
city-
and
we
don't
know
I'd
really
like
to
get
real
clear
on
that
and
I'd
really
like
for
the
city
council
and
the
planning
commission
to
get
real
clear
on
that
before
they
even
consider
any
type
of
construction
on
that
site.
E
Yes,
there
was
a
gas
station
there
before.
Yes,
there
was
a
repair
shop
there
before
okay,
great
so
now
the
site's
been
cleaned
up.
So
you
want
to
put
a
gas
station
there
again
and
contaminate
it
again.
I
mean
didn't
einstein
say
something
about
that.
You
know,
but
anyhow,
all
right.
So
there's
a
couple
other
things
I
had
too.
E
We
don't
know
who
the
franchie
is
going
to
be
okay,
so
whoever
ends
up
purchasing
that
will
they
be
able
to
appeal
to
the
city
council
for
an
alcohol
permit,
another
type
of
tobacco
permit
and
how
many
times
will
they
be
able
to
ask
and
appeal?
I
mean
we've
been
here
what
I
went
down
this
all
last
year
I
went
through
this.
I
went
through
the
planning
commission
this
year
meeting
with
you
guys
tonight.
E
When
is
no?
No,
when
is
we're
done?
We're
done.
You
know.
Just
I'm
sorry,
take
your
ball
and
go
home.
We're
done
I
I
don't.
I
understand
that
he
has
the
right
to
appeal
and
they
have
the
right
to
ask,
but
I
I
just
don't
understand
so
if
he
does
get
the
permit,
he
does
build
a
store.
The
franchisee
downs,
the
road
goes
hey.
Okay.
Now
we
want
to
add
a
gas
station.
Now
we
want
to
sell
liquor.
So
are
we
just
going
to
keep
getting
beat
like
this
and
have
to
come
here?
E
Every
three
months-
I
I
don't
think
it's
fair
to
the
city
and
I
don't
think
it's
fair
to
the
neighborhood,
and
you
know
the
the
sad
thing
is
is
that
it
used
to
be
oh
thank
heaven
for
7-eleven,
but
now
I
think
it's
kind
of
heck.
No,
you
got
to
go,
I'm
sorry,
you
know.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Oh
and
I'm
still
waiting
for
my
invitation
for
lunch
come
on
remember
last
time
we
were
talking
about
the
homeless
thing,
so
we
need
to
do
you
walked
out.
I
was
here
all
right.
Give
me
a
call.
Q
Q
Jacobs
and
I've
kind
of
been
following
this
since
the
very
start
when
there
was
a
meeting
in
the
near
the
thousand
oaks
park
next
to
the
high
school
just
to
discuss
it
with
some
local
people.
Thank
you,
city
staff
and
council
members
for
taking
the
time
to
listen
to
us
and
consider
this.
I
live
about
a
mile
away,
so
it's
not
going
to
kill
my
home
value,
but
I
really
think
it's
a
terrible
idea
for
the
community
and
for
the
people
who
live
right
beside
it.
I'm
not
anti-growth.
Q
Q
But
I'm
opposed
to
this
very
much
so
it's
bad
for
the
high
school.
It
encourages
something
that
the
teachers
are
trying
to
teach
kids
the
opposite
of.
It
says
the
teachers
are
working
on
health,
on
science,
on
pe,
to
try
and
get
kids
to
take
care
of
themselves
and
then
you're
putting
the
ultimate
temptation
correctly
across
the
street.
The
concerns
for
vaping
tobacco
and
alcohol
are
real
because
their
commitments
are
not
binding.
We,
the
residents,
cannot
be
guaranteed
that
that
will
remain
that
way
into
the
future
interesting.
Q
I'm
not
sure
what
a
three-hour
difference
in
their
hours
makes
to
tobacco
sales,
but
I
have
seen
some
real
anger
on
the
part
of
mr
magdale
here
and
I
do
wonder
if
it's
a
matter
of
spite.
I
have
seen
him
he's
been
he's
a
good
salesman.
I'll
give
you
that
much.
He
uses
all
the
sales
techniques,
but
he
hasn't
been
completely
honest
even
directly
to
me,
the
last
city
planning
meeting
that
we
went
to.
I
went
up
to
speak
to
somebody.
Q
After,
as
did
he
and
the
subject
of
this
letter,
the
school
board
sent
to
you,
council
members
was
brought
up
and
he
told
me
that
their
letter
was
in
favor
of
a
7-eleven,
and
I
think
we
all
know
that
that
is
not
the
case
in
the
city
of
teo.
You
have
always
you.
Prior
city
councils
have
always
limited
late
night.
Businesses,
and
especially
24-hour
businesses
of
the
three
other
7-elevens
in
our
four
four
other
seven
elizabeths
within
the
city.
Q
Only
one
of
them
is
located
near
residential
properties
in
the
same
way
that
this
one
is
one
is
downtown:
tl
right
on
teal
boulevard
and
the
other
away
from
red
from
private
homes,
the
one
that
is
located
near
private
homes
that
I
can't
find
out.
I
haven't
been
able
to
find
out-
maybe
you
know
when
the
7-eleven
went
in,
but
I
know
that
that
strip
mall
was
built
in
1969,
as
were
the
houses
directly
behind
it,
so
any
effect
on
the
property
values
took
place
from
the
very
start.
Q
I
want
to
address
their
comment
about
noise
and
they're
already
being
noise.
I
happen
to
have
a
physical
therapist
in
that
medical
building
that
we
were.
We
are
referring
to
right
next
door,
it's
quiet
as
a
mouse.
I
go
there
in
the.
I
went
there
at
the
latest
possible
appointment
and
at
7
00
pm
the
people
from
the
physical
therapy
office
walk
out
of
the
building
with
me
and
lock
it
and
leave.
When
I
arrive
at
six
or
five,
the
parking
lot
is
already
mostly
empty.
It's
not
a
noisy
operation
by
any
means.
Q
The
strip
mall
across
flores
is
also
one
of
relatively
low
traffic
business.
The
highest
traffic
would
have
to
be
the
dominoes
and
it's
primarily
delivery
delivery,
so
so
compared
to
the
prior
gas
station
hours
hours
hours
by
the
time,
people
come
home
to
rest
at
night
that
mobile
station
wasn't
making
as
much
noise.
Certainly
by
the
time
they
went
to
bed
it
was
closed
and
dark
and
quiet
there
were
no
lights
to
disrupt
their
bedrooms.
Q
There
was
were
no
customers
coming
in
and
out
late
at
night
and
no
traffic
late
at
night,
I've
been
on
more
park
road
and
yeah.
It's
a
pretty
heavy
duty
highway
during
the
daytime.
I
happen
to
be
a
night
owl
you'll
find
me
at
the
chance
gas
station
at
midnight
sometimes,
but
I
drive
on
moore
park.
Road,
therefore,
because
I
have
to
go
down
floor
is
to
get
to
my
home
and
there's
practically
nobody
there.
Traffic
noise
is
not
an
issue
at
10
o'clock.
At
night,
7-eleven
noise
will
be
and.
B
C
Good
evening
my
name
is
maribel.
I
work
in
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
and
I'm
for
the
project.
I
just
wanted
to
say
what
the
big
I
want
to
know.
What
the
big
deal
is
about
the
project.
The
developer
has
already,
you
know,
stated
that
he
would
change
the
hours
and
that
wouldn't
sell
any
vapes
or
alcohol
products
and
it's
still
a
concern
as
far
as
the
students
going
to
that
area
and
noise,
it's
going
to
happen
anyway.
C
I
think
it
should
just
be
reconsidered.
That's
it.
L
L
I
propose
that
these
folks
think
ahead
and
do
a
little
planning
and
remember
to
get
the
beverages
when
they
are
closer
to
the
freeway
and
when
the
other,
let
me
start
over
they'd
like
a
late
night
option
for
getting
their
slurpee
or
coffee,
so
they
can
work
at
home
into
the
night.
I
propose
that
these
folks
think
ahead
do
a
little
planning
and
remember
to
get
the
beverages
when
they
are
closer
to
the
freeway,
where
other
venues
are
open
later,
such
as
the
usa
gas
station
that
you
mentioned
earlier
just
for
that
minor
convenience.
L
L
Apparently,
a
huge
amount
of
money
was
spent
to
excavate
the
gas
barrels
and
remains
of
the
previous
gas
station
that
was
there
before.
That
was
to
clean
the
site
and
support
the
adjacent
neighborhoods
in
a
safe,
healthy
place
to
live.
Why
would
the
city
agree
to
put
this
pollution
back
on
that
site?
How
is
that
a
responsible
plan
for
this
city,
the
superficial
fixes
that
the
applicant
is
proposing,
will
not
erase
the
negative
impact
of
our
communities
socially
financially
and
the
decline
in
our
property
values.
L
The
landowner
needs
to
find
a
different
idea
for
this
project,
because
this
one
is
not
the
solution.
This
idea
puts
our
neighbors
and
the
students
at
thousand
oaks
high
school
at
risk
for
unhealthy
food
options,
eventual
crime
and
drug
handling.
As
we
know,
the
current
7-eleven
at
wilbur
is
already
overwhelmed
with
we're,
seeing
in
the
news
that
kids
are
dying
from
this
new
trend
of
vaping,
and
we
all
know
this
proposed
7-eleven
would
only
promote
more
of
that
activity.
L
Thousand
oaks
has
been
known
as
the
safest
city
in
the
u.s.
This
idea
would
not
help
us
remain
that
safe
city.
We
understand
that
the
applicant
just
has
to
wait
a
year
to
apply
for
an
alcohol
license,
so
even
though
they
might
say
that
they're
not
going
to
do
that,
we
know
it's
coming
down
the
road.
L
L
O
O
O
O
I
am
dismayed
and
disappointed
that
a
neighborhood
convenience
market
with
a
gas
station
across
from
a
high
school
that
supports
it,
would
be
so
demonized
by
a
handful.
It
is
a
convenience
market.
There
is
nothing
in
the
community
plan
that
would
disallow
this
use
going
through
the
entitlement
process.
There
have
been
no
negative
impacts
to
the
community.
The
school
is
supportive.
This
company
is
exceeded
to
the
community's
wish
that
no
alcohol
be
sold
or
vapes.
O
It
has
uncuriosity
for
this
franchise
shorten
the
hours
of
operation
to
be
a
good
neighbor
mitigation
by
the
stakeholders
of
lighting
traffic,
environmental
or
safety
impacts
have
been
followed.
The
state
of
california
is
over
the
top
in
their
current
requirements
for
new
gas
stations
and
their
tanks.
O
The
developer
worked
in
good
faith
with
the
school
district
and
the
police
department
to
ensure
the
site's
maximum
safety.
After
40
years
of
doing
this,
what
troubles
me
is
property
like
this
one
that
fits
all
the
historic
land
use
and
neighborhood
compatibility
requirements
can
be
arbitrarily
denied,
because
unelected
officials
choose
whatever
use.
They
would
imagine
to
be
perfect,
regardless
of
the
market
considerations.
O
What
worries
me
is
you
lose
the
property
owners
rights.
They
are
trumped
by
personal
belief
about
what
should
be
allowed,
even
if
it's
consistent
with
the
community
plan.
This
is
a
slippery
slope.
The
developer
spent
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
and
over
two
years
believing
this
was
within
the
scope
of
the
community
plan.
Please
understand
that
there
will
be
that
the
franchisee
is
going
to
be
a
local
individual,
a
local
businessman,
not
a
corporate
monolith,
running
the
convenience
store.
O
O
I
Jason
schlemgeon
I'm
at
267
dire
court,
just
something
kind
of
simple
I
think
and
reading
the
permitting
process.
It
seems
to
me
that
c1
permit
is
for
a
res
for
neighborhood
shopping
center.
What
my
understanding
is
that's
for
the
resident
for
the
needs
of
the
neighborhood
gasoline
cigarettes.
Soft
drinks
are
not
needed
in
this
neighborhood.
It's
a
trader
joe's,
not
far
away
avon's
a
cvs,
a
ralph
center
rite
aid
and
gas
stations
there.
I
I
I
J
You
mayor
mccoy,
I
do
have
a
question
regarding
a
couple
of
mention
of
a
letter
from
the
I
guess
current
principle,
which
was
issued.
I
believe,
back
in
august
2018
a
year
ago,
has
that
letter
been
recalled
so
to
speak,
for
lack
of
a
better
word
by
the
district,
or
did
the
district
not
weigh
in
saying
that
this
letter
did
not
represent
the
position
of
the
district.
M
J
J
D
Angler
thank
you
mayor,
mr
kearns.
I
was
wondering
a
lot
of
comments
that
I
know
we
all
have
received,
and
I
I
know
I
received.
I
have
to
do
with
traffic
issues
and
having
to
do
with
the
allegations.
This
will
aggravate
those
traffic
issues.
Can
you
go
a
little
bit
into
what
you've
looked
into
at
that
location
and
any
remediation
that
you
have
recommended.
M
Yeah
I'd
like
to
invite
kathy
naum
our
traffic
analyst
to
discuss
that
topic.
C
Good
evening,
kathy
now,
members
of
the
city
council,
the
term
will
aggravate
trafficking
the
area.
Yes,
it
will.
The
most
significant
uniqueness
about
this
parcel
is
bounded
by
three
public
streets
and
the
frontage
access
on
flores
is
only
90
feet
wide,
so
the
driveway
is,
does
not
even
meet
the
minimum
standards
of
driveway
spacing
for
commercial
projects,
whether
it's
to
an
intersection
or
between
driveways.
C
C
Yes,
we
we
looked
at
the
currently
there's
a
pr.
I
counted,
there's
about
300
pedestrians
that
use
the
intersection
during
the
day,
and
you
could
say
almost
half
of
them
are
going
to
cross
the
driveway
either
to
be
picked
up
by
their
parents
or
whoever
picks
them
up
on
kelly,
jasmine
or
down
on
flores,
as
well
as
people
who
get
off
the
bus
stop.
And
then
you
add
that
all
the
pedestrians
that
would
be
in
the
parking
lot
that
would
be
in
conflict
with
anyone
queuing
into
the
gas
station.
C
Well,
the
when
the
project
went
planning
commission
last
time
we
imposed
the
condition
as
a
write-in
right
out
driveway
only
with
no
lefts
in
mainly
because
there's
the
the
close
proximity
to
the
intersection
and
then,
in
addition
to
the
bus,
stop
which
creates
the
sight
distance
problem
and
there's
also
the
possibility
of
an
even
greater
sight
distance
problem
with
which
would
be
the
proposed
sign
that
would
be
at
the
corner
of
the
project.
So,
yes,
the
the
bus,
stop,
creates
a
sight
distance
problem
with
the
driveway.
H
No,
I
don't
know
how
long
you've
been
with
the
city
that
was
a
gas
station
up
until
2005..
C
We
don't
have
records
that
go
back
to
2005,
that
I
was
able
to
access
so,
and
I
also
wouldn't
say
whether
there
was
a
problem
or
not.
There's
always
conflicts
with
driveways,
but
we
don't
have
anything
that
we
can
point
to
to
say
that
that
was
or
wasn't
a
problem.
C
H
I
noticed
that
in
the
earlier
use
there
was
a
driveway
on
jasmine
when
it
was
a
mobile
gas
station.
I
see
that
as
been
moved
to
floris.
Is
that
correct?
The
driveway.
M
A
H
M
M
H
M
H
M
Yeah
the
the
project
that
was
presented
to
the
planning
commission
on
april
1st
excluded
tobacco
vaping
alcohol.
On
april
1st,
the
day
of
the
meeting,
the
applicant's
representation
submitted
a
letter
saying
they
did
want
to
sell
tobacco,
and
that
was
discussed
at
the
planning
commission
hearing.
M
There's
no
state
law,
there's
no
federal
law
that
allows
the
city
to
proactively
restrict
the
sell
of
tobacco
products.
So
on
the
subsequent
application,
when
they
no
longer
requested
the
cell,
when
they
requested
tobacco
cells,
we
could
not
productively
impose
a
condition.
H
One
last
thing:
I:
I
got
a
lot
of
anonymous
emails
from
purporting
to
be
teachers
and
students
at
thousands
high
school.
I
really
tend
not
to
pay
a
lot
of
attention
to.
If
people
you
know
won't
sign
their
names.
I
don't
I
wonder
if
the
real
people-
or
you
know,
I
don't
give
as
much
credence
as
I
would
say
to
that,
and
they
spoke
about
the
desirability
of
having
students
go
there
to
get
their
lunch.
K
Mayor
you
mentioned
300
people
use
a
crosswalk
every
day.
K
K
C
I
I
think
that
in
a
combination
of
that's
where
kids
could
go,
just
hang
out
and
then
get
picked
up,
then
their
parents
don't
have
to
try
to
fight
the
high
school
driveways.
They
could
just
hang.
You
know
pick
them
up
within
the
neighborhood,
so
the
kids
could
hang
out
and
they
do
that
at
some
other
places.
In
the
city
too,
where
the
schools
are
close
to
shopping,
centers.
K
B
M
Thank
you
very
much
mary
mccoy
I'd
like
to
just
respond
to
a
few
of
the
comments
that
were
made
start
off
with
a
presentation
by
mr
scribner.
I
appreciate
your
comments.
M
There's
a
statement
that
the
c1
zone
requires
a
hundred
foot
setback
from
the
center
alignment
streets,
and
that
is
the
case
that
was
recognized
in
the
staff
report.
Staff
acknowledged
that
any
above
ground
structure
on
this
project.
This
property
would
require
a
waiver
that
that
is
something
that
will
have
to
happen
for
any
development
of
the
site
as
long
as
its
own
c1
staff.
M
Staff's
analysis
was
based
on
the
proposal
before
you
tonight,
which
was
a
convenience
store
and
a
service
station
in
the
early
stages.
When
we
discussed
this
project,
the
convenience
store
location
was
predicated
by
the
actual
the
service
station
gas
pump
component
of
the
project,
which
required
certain
access
points
for
circulation
in
and
out
of
the
site,
as
well
as
for
the
the
fuel
supply
vehicles
getting
in
and
out
of
the
site.
M
So
moving
the
building
to
squeeze
that
driveway
access
was
not
a
possibility
of
the
time
so
taking
the
the
finding
for
denial
based
on
the
setback
waiver
was
the
proximity
to
the
residential
side,
and
that
was
the
convenience
store.
M
The
applicant
mentioned
during
his
presentation
that
the
hours
of
operation,
which
would
be
six
to
eleven
what's
before
this
evening
and
what
was
presented
and
analyzed
by
staff
or
hours
of
5
a.m,
to
2
a.m.
So
we
have
not.
This
is
the
first
week,
part
of
it
so
6
am
to
11
pm
has
not
been
presented
to
us.
M
With
regard
to
the
the
lighting
and
the
noise,
there
will
be
noise,
that's
generated
from
the
site
from
the
wheel
supplies
vehicles,
customers
visiting
inside
the
customers
vehicles
during
these
late
night
operations
from
all
the
way
to
2
a.m.
As
proposed
and
the
light
source,
we
can
review
the
light.
M
With
the
in
regard
to
the
the
roofing
material,
the
architectural
design
guidelines
they
do
allow
for
metal
roofs
subject
to
be
compatible
with
adjacent
land
uses.
The
c1
zone
also
states
that
the
architectural
should
be
compatible
with
the
adjacent
line.
M
In
this
case,
the
staff
determined
staff's
recommendation
was
that
the
metal
roofing,
the
standing
seam
metal
roofing,
was
not
compatible
and
did
not
support
that.
However,
the
planning
commission
had
the
ability,
as
does
the
city
council,
to
approve
a
roof
of
material
they'd
be
appropriate
if
they
choose
to
approve
the
project.
The
condition
that
was
referenced
by
mr
scribbler
number
18
with
regard
to
the
roofing.
F
M
O
Thank
you
mayor
mccoy
just
wanted
to
talk
for
a
few
minutes
because
it
does
appear
based
on
some
of
the
public
comments
and
written
documents
that
there's
confusion
regarding
this
appeal.
First
and
foremost,
this
is
the
den.
This
is
an
appeal
of
the
denial
of
a
project.
O
The
project,
as
proposed
by
the
applicant,
is
what
is
being
appealed
tonight.
In
other
words,
the
proposed
hours
of
operation,
location
of
the
driveways
location
of
the
buildings,
roof
type,
etc.
That
is
the
basis
of
the
appeal
tonight.
Any
proposed
revisions
by
the
applicant
tonight
are
are
really
outside
the
scope
of
this
appeal,
as
the
appeal
is
based
on
the
denial
of
the
project
that
were
was
proposed
to
the
planning
commission.
O
That
project
and
the
decision
by
the
planning
commission
is
not
before
the
city
council
on
this
appeal.
As
the
applicant
did
not
appeal
that
decision,
I
want
to
talk
a
couple
minutes
about
the
difference
between
a
development
permit
and
a
special
use.
Permit
zoning
codes
that
we
have
in
every
city
they
set
forth
where
uses
are
appropriate
where
houses
should
go
where
manufacturing
uses
should
go
grocery
stores,
gas
stations,
hardware
stores,
etc.
O
The
zoning
code
will
also
set
forth,
what's
called
a
special
use
permit
and
those
are
imposed
on
certain
types
of
uses
where
it's
those
uses
are
appropriate
in
many
locations
within
that
zone,
but
not
all
of
the
locations
due
to
potential
impacts
from
the
type
of
the
use.
So
when
you're
processing
a
special
use,
permit
you're,
looking
at
the
compatibility
of
the
proposed
use
with
the
use
of
surrounding
the
neighborhood
and
the
legal
importance
of
that
of
the
sup
is
the
legal
recognition
that
some
uses,
even
when
they're
compliant
with
general
guidelines,
are
not
appropriate.
O
In
every
location
in
that
zone,
that
is
why
one
of
the
bases
for
denial
of
the
sup
is
the
determination
that
the
use
is
not
compatible
with
the
surrounding
community
and
when
you
look
at
the
findings
that
the
planning
commission
made
when
they
denied
the
project
at
the
planning
commission
level.
The
findings
are
in
the
resolution,
and
that
goes
to
the
compatibility
of
it.
O
So
when,
when
you
have
planning
commissioners
or
even
the
city
council
that
sits
up
at
the
diocese-
and
they
have
general
comments
about
what
they
like
about
a
project,
what
they
don't
like
about
a
project
concerns
they
have
about
a
project
at
the
end
of
the
day
when
they
make
a
decision
whether
to
approve
or
deny
a
project
they're.
Looking
at
what
the
findings
are,
the
findings
are
what's
most
important
and
the
findings
are
what
is
the
legal
basis
for
either
approval
of
a
project
or
denial
of
a
project?
N
N
N
Now,
regarding
the
setbacks,
I'm
still
kind
of
confused.
This
is
a
c1
which
is
a
neighborhood
shopping
center,
normally
acres
in
size
requiring
a
hundred
foot
set
back
from
all
the
streets.
Now
the
staff
said
they'd
like
a
100
foot,
set
back
from
the
rear
that
street
60
feet,
so
that
would
be
a
70-foot
setback
to
the
building,
and
then
I
have
a
letter
on
file
asking
you
to
set
it
back,
50
feet
from
our
part
and
yet
one
of
their
reasons
for
denial,
because
we're
asking
for
a
variance
I've
asked
many
times.
N
N
N
So
it's
it
seemed
like
and
with
the
support
of
the
principal,
the
staff
asked
him
to
meet
with
the
high
school
principal
to
get
his
ideas,
support
whatever
and
you
there
is
a
letter
where
principal
bergman
supports
the
project,
and
I
reckon
I
read
to
you
what
he
said.
That's
probably
in
your
in
your
staff
report.
So
it
is
supported
by
the
principal.
N
N
Gas
station
before
had
four
driveways.
We
now
have
two
plus
we've.
Actually,
our
first
one
is
going
to
be
on
moorpark.
It's
already
there
for
the
medical
building,
we're
just
going
to
share
that.
So
we're
really
just
adding
one
more
and
we're
actually
eliminated,
two
driveways
on
moore
park,
road
and
one
at
the
rear
to
cali
jasmine,
because
we
realized
the
neighbors
certainly
wouldn't
want
us
to
be
exiting
with
headlights
going
into
their
house.
N
My
client,
if
you
approve
it,
he
will
operate
it
six
to
eleven.
N
He
stated
he
would
do
that.
He
will
honor
that,
and
so,
if
you
approve
it,
it
will
not
be
until
two
o'clock
in
the
morning.
It
will
be
six
to
eleven
if
you'd
like
him
to
get
up
and
say
that
to
you
fine,
but
I
want
you
to
be
assured
that
that
is
when
he
would
operate
this.
This
store
this
gas
station
from
6
to
11..
H
N
N
H
N
Well,
the
school
is
very
excited
the
coach
one
of
the
coaches,
because
it's
a
place
where
the
students
can
come
over
and
eat.
If
you've
been
around
that
school
lunch,
you
know
they
all
get
in
their
cars
and
they
drive
to
7-eleven
down
at
jans
road
and
they
drive
to
other
places
to
eat
lunch.
This
gives
them
a
place
to
eat.
They
don't
have
to
leave
the
area,
they
don't
have.
H
N
R
H
We
used
to
bring
california,
can
you
imagine
the
handicap
or
the
sacrifice
we
had
to
make?
We
a
lot
of
us
would
bring
a
brown
paper
bag
with
our
lunch,
and
could
you
imagine
having.
N
B
D
D
The
to
get
information
helps
us
make
proper
decisions,
and
I
thank
you
all
for
it
as
a
preamble
part
of
most
most
of
the
comments,
I
think
that
I
received,
I
think
most
of
you
received
them
as
well
from
the
neighborhood.
D
D
There's
an
anticipation
that
crime
will
increase
in
the
area
and
then
especially
those
who
are
nearby.
They
were
very
concerned
about
the
noise
and
light
pollution
that
will.
A
D
Now
the
other
neighbors
who
were
in
favor,
I
think
they
see
they
see
the
benefit
to
having
a
neighborhood
shopping
center,
a
neighborhood
market
and
more
than
a
few
people
were
sensitive
to
the
ability
of
a
person
who
owns
a
property
to
build
what
will
make
sense
to
them
on
that
property.
D
So
I
think
the
the
the
preponderance,
though,
was
in
the
negative
there's
a
few
people
in
favor
the
school.
We
have
a
a
letter
from
our
school
district
that
is
neither
committal
nor
or
nor
either
for
nor
against.
They
have
some
concerns
that
they
aired,
and
that
was
about
it.
We
did
receive
letters
and
cards
and
and
emails
from
students
who
are
and
believe
it
or
not.
D
I
was
young
once
who
are
really
looking
forward
to
some
place
to
go,
get
something
to
eat,
so
I
think
that's
from
from
the
school
district
side
of
things.
D
But
in
in
in
the
going
back
into
the
1980s
1990s,
the
city
has
a
long
history
of
concern
about
development
in
that
area.
The
as
mentioned
before,
there's
a
dairy
across
the
street
where
that
shopping
center
is
now
when
that
was
redeveloped.
There
was
a
lot
of
restrictions
put
on
what
could
go
into
that
neighborhood
area
that
had
a
minimal
impact
on
the
residential
just
across
the
street.
There
was
to
the
point
now.
I
don't
think
you
can
even
get
a
slice
of
pizza
at
the
at
the
dominoes.
D
Unfortunately,
with
this
particular
location,
where
there'll
be
a
gas
station
directly
across
a
narrow
street
from
housing,
I'm
not
sure
how
we
can
limit
that
impact
anymore
to
to
a
residence
who
is
definitely
going
to
feel
the
effect
of
having
a
business
right
across
the
street
that
is
open
by
proposal
until
was
it
two
in
the
morning,
and
I
appreciate
that
there's
a
possibility
of
that
being
less,
but
we
need
to
vote
on
what
the
proposal
is
tonight.
D
K
Well,
I
I
think
the
key.
A
K
Facing
the
council
tonight
is
it
summed
up
in
one
word:
compatibility
compatibility
with
the
surrounding
area:
it's
not
the
roof,
it's
not
the
setback.
I
mean
there's
in
my
mind
anyway.
Those
are
fairly
minor
considerations.
It's
compatibility
with
the
surrounding
area,
and
I
know
there
was
a
whatever
a
drive-through
dairy
is
that
was
before
my
time
and
a
service.
B
K
K
Not
true,
it
was
but
anyway,
okay
rob.
You
threw
me
off
there
buddy
anyway,
and
I
know
there
was
a
service
station
there
before,
but
I
I
think
the
use
now
would
be.
I
would
consider
it
to
be
more
intense
than
the
prior
two
uses
now
now
we're
talking
about
a
gas
station
and
a
convenience
store
both
and
again
compatibility.
We
have
residences
within
60
feet
of
the
of
the
proposed
project.
There's
really
close
proximity
the
hours
as
proposed,
don't
line
up
with
our
service
station
guidelines.
K
For
the
kids
I
mean
my
kids
went
to
west
lake
high
school.
The
issue
of
picking
up
children
is
incredible,
incredibly
impactive
to
the
area,
and
I
think
traffic
is
going
to
be
a
real
issue
at
that
intersection
as
well,
and
when
you
talk
about
the
surrounding
area,
you
do
have
businesses
but
they're,
mostly
passive
use,
businesses.
You
know,
I
think,
there's
a
medical
office
there
there's
the
dominoes,
which
is
mostly
takeout.
This
is
a
very
active
use.
K
A
very
active
use,
a
lot
of
people
driving
in
and
out
till
late
in
the
evening-
and
you
know
I
I
mean
I
get
it.
It's
it's
convenient
for
people.
You
know
they're
going
to
enjoy
it
for
their
10
minutes
that
they're
there,
but
the
residents
around
there
are
there
24
7,
7
days
a
week
365
days
a
year.
They
they
can't
really
escape
the
the
to
me
would
which
would
be
a
pretty
impactful
situation
for
them.
K
You
know
nobody
likes
to
say
no
to
to
a
project,
but
I
just
haven't
heard
anything
tonight
that
really
would
offset
the
planning
commission's
decision
to
deny
this
project,
and
my
my
view
is
really
based
on
compatibility
with
the
surrounding.
I
just
don't
think
it
quite
meets
the
criteria.
J
J
The
as
my
colleagues
have
already
stated,
what
really
is
before
us
tonight
are
it's
an
appeal
to
a
planning
commission
decision
based
on
setback,
deviation
and
also
based
on
hours
of
operation
and
the
fact
that
staff
and
the
planning
commission
found
that
the
project
will
be
detrimental
to
the
general
welfare
and
also
because
of
its
incompatibility
with
the
surrounding
areas.
J
When
we,
when
we
speak
about
the
general
welfare,
not
only
is
there
are
there.
Traffic
concerns
pedestrian
concerns,
but
there
there
are
also
bus,
stop
sighting
issues,
for
example
that
were
mentioned
tonight.
J
The
what
was
brought
back
before
us
and
and
the
planet
commission
really
is
no
different.
I
saw
that
hours
were
you
were
proposing
to
change
them
in
your
survey
from
the
weekend
from
5
a.m
to
midnight
over
the
weekend.
That's
what
residents
were
told
this
evening.
We
hear
six
a.m
until
11
p.m.
So,
by
that
that
is
not
before
us
tonight
before
us
is
what
the
planning
commission
heard
and
their
findings-
and
I
see
absolutely
no
reason
at
all
to
overrule
or
overturn
the
planning
commission's
findings
on
this
particular
case.
A
A
A
G
City
council
historically
maintained
a
ban
on
all
cannabis
activity
in
2016
after
voters
passed
proposition
64,
the
city
was
required
to
allow
for
personal
use
of
cannabis
and
the
ability
to
grow
up
to
six
plants
for
personal
use.
After
a
desire
from
community
members
to
see
some
commercial
activity
in
the
medical
cannabis
arena,
city
council
adopted
an
ordinance
to
allow
for
one
medical,
cannabis,
dispensary
and
one
testing
laboratory.
G
After
a
comprehensive
application
and
review
process,
legendary
organics
was
selected
to
operate
the
medical
dispensary
at
2712
kaneho
center
drive.
There
were
no
successful
testing
laboratory
applicants
at
the
time
earlier
this
year,
the
bureau
of
cannabis
control
amended
their
regulations
to
allow
licensed
retailers
to
deliver
cannabis
throughout
the
state,
rendering
the
city's
ban
on
deliveries
invalid
to
address
the
state
decision.
City
council
amended
the
cannabis
ordinance
to
place
regulations
on
cannabis
deliveries
and
require
the
businesses
to
register
and
pay
taxes.
G
G
G
E
Thank
you,
melissa,
council
staff
and
also
those
in
the
audience.
The
thousand
oaks
police
department
is
committed
to
enforcement
of
all
laws
within
our
community,
both
state
and
municipal.
E
These
codes
extend
to
those
that
are
state
licensed
existing
marijuana
delivery
services.
As
melissa
stated,
there
are
approximately
112
in
the
service
area
in
ventura
county
and
the
west
san
fernando
valley,
west,
los
angeles
area.
They
consider
the
thousand
oaks
area,
part
of
their
service
delivery
area.
E
These
these
delivery
companies
are
licensed
by
the
state
and
choose
to
deliver
their
recreational
medicinal
marijuana.
Within
our
city
boundaries,
the
police
department
has
conducted
compliance,
checks
and
investigations
of
state
cannabis,
controlled,
regulated
delivery
companies
who
are
advertising
for
deliveries
in
the
canal
valley
to
ensure
that
they
are
meeting
our
local
city
ordinances
regulations
and
that
for
the
requirement
that
they
maintain
business
license
and
pay
sales
tax
on
their
transactions.
E
The
investigations
are
still
ongoing
with
the
police
department
at
this
time.
On
these
operating
delivery
services,
each
one
will
be
dealt
with
I'll
provide
those
details
on
a
future
date.
However,
at
this
time
I
can
report
to
the
council
that
each
and
every
delivery
service
that
we
have
contacted
with
our
investigators
and
arranged
to
buy
marijuana
here
in
the
canal
valley,
each
and
every
one
of
these
compliance
checks
were
delivered
here
locally
to
our
investigators
and
not
one
of
them
in
fact,
had
a
business
license
in
the
city
of
thousand
oaks.
S
As
you
will
probably
hear
tonight
from
representatives
of
legendary
organics,
the
company
is
seeking
to
move
to
a
new
location
before
beginning
operations.
Their
current
cannabis
business
permit
expires
on
december
31st
2019
unless
renewed.
When
last
checked
no
state
cannabis
license
has
been
issued
to
legendary
organics
for
operations
in
thousand
oaks.
S
As
you
may
also
recall,
a
cannabis
tax
was
passed.
Measure
was
was
passed
by
voters
in
november
of
2018,
which
imposes
a
four
percent
business
tax
on
cannabis
retail
sales.
Since
legendary
organics
has
not
opened,
there
is
no
tax
revenue
specific
to
our
city.
Our
tax
measure
also
covers
deliveries
into
our
city
as
just
noted
from
outside
retailers,
but
because
it
is
a
quarter
tax
and
we
have
just
begun
the
licensing
process
for
deliveries.
This
revenue
cannot
be
collected
at
this
time
and
will
not
be
known
until
november.
S
There's
also
a
a
rising
market
in
industrial
hemp,
cbd
oil
from
industrial
hemp
federal
regulations
have
recently
changed
with
what
we
call
the
state
farm
bill.
I'm
sorry
the
farm
bill
of
2018.,
and
what
this
did
this
this
change
in
the
federal
government
is.
They
took
cbd
oil
from
industrial
hemp
out
of
a
cannabis
product
and
into
its
own
indus
agricultural
type
of
seed.
S
S
Similarly,
the
state
is
entertaining
legislation
to
further
regulate
products
using
either
the
hemp
plant
or
oil,
from
the
hemp
seeds
and
and
for
the
for
the
public,
and
for
you
as
well,
industrial
hemp
is,
is
similar
to
cannabis.
The
big
difference,
of
course,
is
that
for
industrial
hemp
it
has
0.3
percent
or
less
of
the
thc,
which
is
a
psychoactive
component,
normally
associated
with
cannabis,
and
so
this
has
been
a
big
switch.
S
It
is
also
significant
to
note
that,
because
the
federal
government
changed
the
the
definition
of
the
can
of
of
industrial
hemp,
what
it
did
is
it
took
it
from
the
schedule,
one
drug,
which
is
what
cannabis
is
to
a
schedule-
five
drug
and
so
that
changed
the
the
focus
of
it
to
allow
the
cultivation,
the
manufacturing
and
also
using
products
with
it.
There
is
a
caveat
of
course,
and
that
caveat
is
that,
currently
with
state
legislation
pending,
they
might
allow
hemp
to
be
used
in
certain
food
products,
for
example.
S
But
there
has
to
be
some
ability
to
note
that
it
has
no
contaminants
and
they
have
to
show
that
it
is
following
a
certain
type
of
a
path
like
a
trace,
a
track
and
trace
system
so
that
the
hemp
oil
or
the
hemp
seeds
that
you're
using
is
from
a
reliable
source
all
right.
So
with
all
this
background,
we're
going
to
talk
about
options
that
we
have
for
you
tonight.
S
Now
it's
important
to
note
that
some
of
these
options
may
require
additional
steps
by
staff
and
council
have
chosen.
The
first
option
is
simply
to
start
over
with
an
entirely
new
process.
This
would
include
going
through
new
applications
for
a
dispensary
and
selection
of
a
new
operator
or
several
operators.
S
Now
you
might
recall
that
one
of
the
primary
factors
articulated
when
you
made
the
decision
to
allow
one
medical
dispensary
in
the
city
was
a
concern
for
access
and
with
the
current
bcc
regulation,
allowing
for
deliveries
of
both
recreational
and
medicinal
cannabis.
Statewide
patients
who
previously
drove
to
a
different
county
for
their
medical
cannabis
may
now
have
it
delivered
to
their
home.
Therefore,
a
second
option
would
be
to
close
out
the
operations
agreement
with
legendary
organics
and
not
issue
any
further
application
license.
S
S
Thank
you
apologize
for
that
so
option.
Five,
I'm
sorry
is
to
direct
staff
to
process
a
new
application
and
operations
agreement
for
legendary
organics
at
a
new
business
location
as
well
as
negotiate
a
second
agreement
with
leaf
dispensary
at
its
proposed
location.
This
option
will
allow
residents
to
meet
with
consultants
at
a
brick
and
mortar
facility
in
thousand
oaks
to
discuss,
needs
for
medicinal
cannabis
in
an
office
setting.
S
S
So
we
have
this
last
slide
for
you,
where
we
present
the
seven
options
for
you
to
consider.
This
is
a
summary
and,
depending
on
an
option
chosen
by
council,
if
any
staff
may
need
further
direction
from
you
on
future
action
items
also
note
that
in
preparation
of
this
agenda
item
staff
did
invite
representatives
from
legendary
organics
and
leave
dispensary
to
attend
this
meeting,
and
he
may
also
have
other
public
speakers
as
well.
This
concludes
staff's
presentation.
G
J
In
the
staff
report
it
says,
let
me
just
go
to
that
page
really
quickly
under
three,
as
required
by
ordinance
with
a
review
process,
as
required
by
ordinance.
S
Right
so
so,
when
you
have
a
new
location,
there's
a
requirement
under
our
ordinance
that
you
evaluate
the
location,
we
go
back
and
look
at
the
security
plan.
We
look
at
other
factors
surrounding
factors.
All
those
all
those
evaluation
aspects
need
to
go
back
into
any
location.
That's
suggested,
okay,.
J
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
councilmember,
angler.
D
I
was
not
on
thank
you
mayor.
I
was
not
on
the
council
when
this
was
discussed
a
year
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
or
so
he
didn't
miss
anything.
D
I
was
wondering
to
start
a
whole
new
process.
There's
going
to
be
some
staff
time,
that's
going
to
be
devoted
to
that.
What
type
of
time
horizon
would
that
include?
So
how
long
would
it
take
us
to
start
a
whole
new
process.
S
It
is
an
option
that
we
felt
that
we
had
to
provide
to
you
simply
because
certainly
it's
something
that
you
can
consider,
but
it
would
take
months
and
part
of
it
would
be.
We
would
want
to
bring
back
if
you
were
going
that
direction
to
ensure
that
we
have
the
same
process.
You
want
to
approve
the
same
process
factors
that
you
want
to
consider.
Those
are
things
that
we
would
bring
back
to
you
and
then
go
out
and
do
the
whole
proposal
almost
like
a
pseudo
rfp.
S
If
you
will,
and
that
would
require
having
applicants
timely,
respond,
evaluating
applications,
then
going
through
a
vetting
process,
then
going
through
rating
process,
then
picking
one
or
two,
depending
on
what
you
want
to
do:
applicants
to
bring
to
council
for
a
final
selection.
Those
type
of
things.
B
I
Good
evening,
mr
mayor
council,
members
paul
castillo
ramon
law
group,
I
represent
a
company
by
the
name
of
ventura
seed
company.
They
are
a
hemp
producer
looking
to
operate
a
facility
here
within
thousand
oaks.
So
if
I
could
just
some
some
clarifying
statements
here
on
the
legality
of
hemp,
we
got
a
misstatement
in
the
update
regarding
hemp
being
a
schedule.
5
drug,
that's
actually
incorrect.
I
Hemp
is
an
agricultural
commodity.
So,
as
part
of
the
supplemental
record,
I
submitted
a
memorandum
of
leak
legality
on
hemp
issued
by
the
usda.
Essentially
saying,
hemp
is
no
longer
subject
to
the
controlled
substance
act,
so
it
is
not
a
drug
under
any
schedule.
I
It
is
akin
to
you
know,
corn
or
strawberries.
At
this
point
so
recently
we,
my
client
ventura
seed
company,
attempted
to
initiate
a
hem
processing
facility.
Obviously
here
within
the
city-
and
there
was
some
confusion
from
the
city
attorney's
office
and
the
business
development
office
regarding
potential
compliance
for
this
operation,
and
there
is
currently
nothing
within
the
municipal
code
to-
I
guess-
restrict
this
type
of
activity.
I
So
we
are
just
seeking
clarification
this
evening.
Hopefully,
some
sort
of-
I
guess,
acknowledgement
from
the
city
council
if
possible
that
there
currently
are
no
hemp
regulations
in
place
at
the
city
level.
Obviously
this
type
of
processing
is
subject
to
you,
know:
building
code
requirements
and
fire
code
requirements,
things
of
that
nature,
but
nothing
hemp
specific,
I'm
more
than
happy
to
work
with
the
council
city
attorney's
office
with
respect
to
clarifying
some
of
these
current
regulations,
both
at
the
federal
and
state
level.
Regarding
hemp.
I
But
again
it
is
an
agricultural
commodity
akin
to
you
know,
corn
and
berries.
So
if
we
were
trying
to
open
a
strawberry
processing
facility,
I
don't
think
we
would
get
the
same
pushback.
So
just
hoping
that
you
know
we
can
clear
up
any
misunderstandings
regarding
the
two
plants
and
hopefully
allow
my
client
to
proceed.
B
Thank
you
very
much
paul
burns,
followed
by
david
mcfarland.
H
Good
evening,
mayor
mccoy
council,
members
and
city
staff,
as
you
know,
paul
burns
2012
since
very
court
thousand
oaks
since
1965.
H
I'm
here,
because
I'm
part
of
number
two,
we
were
the
runner-up
in
july,
2018
and
now
14
months
later,
we're
still
here
and
we're
looking
for
the
council
to
take
advantage
of.
I
believe
it's
prop
number
four
in
front
of
you.
H
We've
been
waiting
patiently
to
get
the
second
permit
and
the
opportunity
has
finally
risen
for
the
council
to
award
a
second
permit
and
we
still
have
our
approved
facility
we've
held
on
to
it,
we're
ready
to
move
forward
and
build
a
state-of-the-art
facility
for
this
city
and
the
community,
and
I
don't
know
what
else
I
can
say,
except
that
we're
here
to
ask
for
your
support.
H
H
I
Good
evening,
mayor
mccoy
council
members,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity.
I'm
david
mcfarlane
42-year
resident
of
the
kaneohe
valley
here
in
thousand
oaks.
Of
course,
my
partner
paul
we're
the
we're
the
runner
runner-up
last
july.
Since
that
july,
10th
meeting
a
lot
has
happened.
We
were
able
to
open
our
second
location
up
in
lompoc,
which
we're
really
proud
of
that.
One
thing
I
would
like
to
talk
about
is
is
yeah
the
brick
and
mortar
model
versus
say
just
the
delivery
service,
brick
and
mortar.
The
one.
I
The
one
thing
that
I
that
stands
out
when
you
have
a
solid
brick
and
mortar
is
safety.
It's
just
a
much
safer
model.
We
have
on-site
security,
we
have
cameras
everywhere.
The
customers
are
screened
and
the
id
id'd
before
they're
ever
given
access
into
the
facility,
the
inventory
and
all
the
cash
is
locked
in
a
safe
room
to
where
it's
you
know,
super
safe
and
the
and
the
most
importantly
for
a
state
licensed
brick
and
mortar
is
the
product
versus
delivery
services.
I
I
So
and
that's
that's
very
dangerous,
because
I've
heard
it
time
and
time
again
people
you
know,
customers
ordering
a
delivery
and
then
to
their
surprise
after
the
after
they've,
given
the
money
and
they
open
the
bag,
it's
something
completely
different
as
to
what
they
were
expecting
so
on
a
state
on
a
state,
regulated
delivery
or
a
brick
and
mortar
it.
It's
it's
far.
Better.
I
I
Currently
we
carry
between
200
and
300
different
products
on
our
menu
board,
so
it
gets
quite
confusing
and
quite
intimidating
for
the
first
time,
patient
or
if
you've
been
in
a
couple
dozen
times
so
and
products
are
constantly
new.
The
industry
is
moving
very
fast,
so
we're
we.
We
do
a
good
job
of
making
sure
we
stay
up
to
date
on
that
and
keep
our
customers
aware
of
the
best
products
available
for
them.
Privacy,
a
brick
and
mortar,
provides
a
privacy
factor.
Customers
sometimes
don't
want.
I
They
don't
want
to
know
they
don't
want
neighbors.
Knowing
that
they're,
you
know
accessing
cannabis.
Having
a
delivery
service.
There's
you
know
children.
They
we've
heard
other
stories
about
such
things
like
that
time's.
K
K
K
I
K
Just
had
to
refresh
my
memory
on
that
and
as
far
as
delivery
or
illegal
delivery,
as
you
heard,
our
police
chief
say,
the
cases
that
he
came
across
were
all
illegal.
K
I
As
a
matter
of
fact,
it
does
we,
when
we
opened
our
long
long
poke
facility,
two
of
the
illegal
delivery
services
in
the
area
who
had
been
there
for
quite
some
time,
actually
packed
up
and
left,
because
the
customers
were
were
very
happy
to
have
a
brick
and
mortar
facility
that
they
come
into.
So
that
was
just
the
feedback
I
got
from
the
customers,
so
an
illegal
delivery
services,
kind
of
look
for
communities
or
jurisdictions
that
don't
have
brick
and
mortars.
They
kind
of
feed
off.
Of
that.
R
I
C
I
You
know
can't
don't
have
access
to
train,
they
don't
have
transportation
to
get
to
us.
So
it's
a
convenience
that
we
offer
them.
Yeah.
J
Thank
you,
mayor
mccoy.
I
had
similar
questions
so,
but
what
I
would
like
to
know
is
you're
interested
in
brick
and
mortar.
You've
stated
that,
are
you
also
planning
to
provide
the
classic
delivery
service
that
we've
been
talking
about
tonight,
not
just
occasional
to
the
elderly
patients.
R
Good
evening,
good
evening,
sir,
my
colleagues
up
here
are
brave
enough
to
have
me
make
the
presentation
this
evening,
yeah
and
and
and
the
purpose
of
it
is
because
legendary
has
has
appeared
and
has
been
part
of
the
of
the
dialogue
so
far
this
evening.
So
it
requires
a
bit
more
perspective
and
understanding
of
where
we
think
things
are.
If
you
indulge
me
to
that
extent,
so
mayor
rob,
council
members
and
most
diligent
staff.
R
As
you
know,
I
represent
legendary
organics
inc,
the
city's
dispensary
permittee
we
are
here.
We
came
here
tonight
to
listen
to
staff's
cannabis,
update
and
your
reactions
to
that,
as
well
as
to
bring
you
current
on
our
clients,
not
always
so
apparent
diligent
efforts
to
open
shop
since
being
selected
as
the
city's
dispensary
permit
team
that
promise
that
process
included
the
subsequent
negotiation
and
signing
of
the
city's
operations
agreement.
R
We
are
grateful
for
the
candid
open,
often
arduous,
working
relationship
with
your
staff
members
and
more
particularly
because
of
the
way
that
this
has
played
out
with
your
assistant
city
attorney.
Mr
he
here
we
believe
the
process
you
direct.
You
have
directed
we'll
raise
the
bar
of
professional,
healthy
medical,
cannabis
commerce.
In
this
city.
R
You
can
be
assured
that
legendary
will
conduct
itself
in
league
with
your
highest
expectations
and
standards
for
the
healthful
benefit
of
our
residents.
It
may
be
useful
to
provide
a
brief
overview
of
legendary's
efforts
to
get
open
without
getting
too
deep
into
chronologic
details.
But
if
you
do
have
those
kinds
of
questions,
we
have
the
right
people
to
respond
to
them.
You.
R
H
B
We
have
questions
for
you,
so
just
stay
put
and
I'll
start.
What
was
the
reason
for
the
desire
for
the
change
of
location
that
has
delayed
the
opening
there
were
there
were.
R
We
had
prepared
plans
for
the
original
site.
They
had
been
planned,
checked
by
the
staff
they
had
gone
through
and
been
essentially
ready
to
be
implemented
and
built
out,
and
then
what
occurred
was
that
we
we
got
news
of
the
problem.
The
potential
promulgation
of
a
new
set
of
regulations
regarding
deliveries,
deliveries
presented
a
specific
issue
to
that
location
for
a
couple
of
reasons,
but
primarily
because
the
site
was
not
adequate
to
handle
both
fixed
site.
R
Retail
sales
and
counseling,
and
also
do
deliveries
from
from
that
location.
So
it
it
the
the
plans
that
had
been
prepared
professionally
and
at
a
significant
cost
would
have
to
have
been
redesigned
at
that
point.
R
In
addition,
there
was
an
issue
having
to
do
with
the
common
area,
the
common
area,
laws,
and
that
the
concern
that,
under
the
federal
law,
there
was
a
there
that
cannabis
was
still
a
class
one
drug.
So
the
the
the
combination
of
those
two
things
caused
us
to
make
contact
with
with
your
staff
and
to
recognize
that
we
needed
further
direction
from
the
staff
as
well
as
from
the
council.
R
In
essence,
both
the
city
and
the
legendary
and
the
others
in
the
industry
were
victims
are
innocent
victims
of
this
change
of
regulation
brought
on
by
the
bureau
of
cannabis
control
in
sacramento,
and
that
is
the
essential
impediment
to
have
have
moved
forward
that
set
in
motion
a
series
of
meetings
and
a
time
frame
that
ran
from
november
of
last
year
to
your
meeting
in
may
this
year,
when
you
adopted
modifications
to
the
cannabis
ordinance
of
the
thousands
municipal
code.
So
in
essence,
we
were
put
into
limbo,
at
least
for
that
period
of
time.
R
K
Thank
you,
mayor,
okay,
so
the
new
location
that
you're
looking
at
do
you
feel
that
it
fits
the
criteria
that
was
laid
out
in
the
original
process.
The
kind
of
things
that
we
were
looking
for
for
a
medicinal
marijuana
facility,
location.
R
R
R
R
They
pursued
that
for
a
period
of
time,
thinking
that
that
would
be
a
they
knew
that
it
meant
the
city's
qualifications
and
they
were
dealing
with
a
non-receptor
property
owner
that
was
concerned
and
and
in
further
conversations
with
the
city.
R
Approximately
a
month
ago,
1339
lawrence
drive
opened
up
and
it
actually
has
from
a
standpoint
of
adaptability
for
develop,
for
deliveries
and
and
actually
for
convenience
of
the
residents,
because
it's
a
little
closer
to
to
the
freeway.
R
They
were
able
to
enter
into
a
and
actually
to
show
their
good
faith
that
they
have
always
intended
to
open
and
operate
a
cannabis,
fixed,
fixed
location,
they've
actually
entered
into
a
lease
and
paid
advance
rent
and
knowing
full
well
at
that
point
that
they
hadn't
gotten
the
the
formal
or
official
approval
from
the
from
your
council,
because
that
has
been
very
clear
that
that
is
a
policy
issue
that
we
all
recognize
is
in
your
hands.
R
K
R
And
we
believe
that
when
we,
when
we
announced
that
to
staff-
I
don't
know
who
may
have
done
this,
but
I
have
heard
that
staff
actually
sent
some
folks
out
which
was
very
efficient
and
have
vetted
that
site
and
believe
that
at
least
tentatively,
it
meets
the
city's
criteria.
Okay,.
K
And
if,
if
we
were
to,
as
you
know,
when
we
first
approached
the
when
this
issue
was
first
broached
to
us
a
year
or
so
ago,
we
did
not
allow
delivery
here
in
the
city.
We're
going
to
reconsider
that
tonight.
But
the
this,
the
piece
that
you
have
now
in
lawrence
would
be
amenable
to
delivery.
R
Yes
and
that's
a
that's
a
key
consideration
as
to
comparing
this
lawrence
drive
site
to
the
to
the
site
that
is
currently
the
stated
location
under
the
permit.
K
Okay,
I
just
want
to
one
other
question:
if
the
council
would
go
this
route
and
and
approve
this
location
change,
do
you
have
a
time
frame
that
you
think
you
would
be
able
to
actually
open
the
facility.
R
We
believe
that
that
short
of
the
necessity
first,
we
have
to
have
that
site
vetted
and
accepted
from
the
city.
Yes,
once
once
you
do
accept
that,
just
as
you
did
with
the
permit
and
operating
operations
agreement
is
approved,
we
can
then
go
to
the
state
and
get
that
permit
and
from
the
standpoint
of
being
able
to
and
the
intent
of
the
of
legendary
to
go
to
work
and
preparing
the
necessary
plans
for
the
tenant
improvements
that
this
that
facility
could
be
open
before
the
end
of
the
year.
K
J
The
original
location
14
months
ago
did
not
allow
for
deliveries,
and
we
have
the
runner-up,
who
runner-up
being
leaf,
who
has
had
brick
and
mortar
medical
dispensaries
with
no
deliveries
running
fine?
Why
are
you
saying
that
you
would
have
stayed
in
that
location?
Had
it
not
been
for
the
change
in
deliveries.
R
There
are
multiple
owners
of
common
owner
common
ownership,
where
the
facility
was
functioning
with
regard
to
to
the
to
the
intake
of
of
of
inventory,
and
so
on
that
created
a
technical
legal
issue
that
that
was
of
great
concern
to
our
applicant,
because
they
they
did
not
want
to
put
other
other
users
in
that
area
at
risk.
With
respect
to
the
federal
government,
they
were
prepared,
however,
at
that
point,
to
accept
the
fact
that
they
would
self-insure
or
self-finance
in
the
event
that
those
those
issues
arose.
R
R
Well,
we,
you
know
you,
you,
folks,
are
this
in
the
same
boat,
that
we
are,
the
state
acted
and
preemptively,
and
we
have
no.
We
have
no,
you,
you
chose
not
to
litigate,
which
is
fine
and
we
we
chose
likewise
not
to
do
so.
J
R
Well,
we're
trustworthy
for
one
thing:
councilmember
these
people
are
our
local
business
people.
I
I
I
we
are.
We
are
not
telling
you
a
a
false
story.
We
have
not
slept
on
that.
Permit
they've
continued
to
try
to
find
a
way
to
get
it
get
to
a
location
and
undertake
the
proper
steps
to
get
open
as
soon
as
possible.
B
T
Good
evening,
your
honor
council
members,
I'm
patrick
spoin
of
legendary
organics
chuck,
is
our
counsel.
His
presentation
was
not
limited
to
the
only
voice
to
express
and
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
about
our
operation.
T
I
think
just
to
be
very
clear.
2712
our
approved
location
is
a
common
interest.
Industrial
subdivision,
our
approved
location,
was
a
freestanding
building
within
that
project.
However,
when
the
state
changed
the
regulations
or
proposed
the
regulations
to
be
changed
on
october
24th,
we
recognized
that
one
of
two
things
couldn't
really
happen.
T
We
had
a
legal
opinion
that
our
patients
conducting
their
need
their
their
care
needs,
shall
we
say
at
legendary,
we're
doing
so
inside
a
freestanding
building
and
when
they
left
our
premises
with
their
products,
they
were
legal
in
the
parking
lot.
However,
we
as
a
business
owner,
could
not
conduct
federally
illegal
schedule,
1
activities
in
the
common
areas
of
a
project
that
was
co-owned
by
23
other
folks.
T
T
We
met
with
city
manager,
drew
powers
on
june
13th
two
days
after
that
took
effect
to
discuss
our
second
location
and
because
of
the
sensitivities
of
a
very
significant
corporate
occupant
that
did
not
want
this
business
right
off
their
front
door.
We
declined,
after
consultation
with,
drew
to
actually
move
forward
with
presenting
that
formally
to
the
council.
We
offered
at
that
time
to
actually
turn
back
our
permit
on
june
13th.
T
However,
in
consultation
with
drew,
basically,
we
said
well,
are
you
willing
to
continue
to
look?
Yes,
we
are,
and
we
did
find
this
third
location,
and
that
is
what
we
have
now
submitted
to
you
and
city
staff
to
process
a
transfer
location.
So
we
have
been
working
diligently
and
tirelessly
to
make.
This
thing
happen
in
the
face
of
a
regulatory
environment
that
we
cannot
go
against.
B
J
T
No,
we
do
not
have
the
same
restrictions.
That
is
why
we
are
in
this
facility,
so
we
are
able
to
conduct
the
same
brick
and
mortar
operation.
Essentially,
as
we
proposed
last
year.
It
has
the
same
fort
knox,
improvements
that
chief
hegel
liked.
T
We
have
continued
to
have
interior
money,
handling
and
product
delivery
operations
within
the
physical
facility,
and
actually
this
allows
us
to
incorporate
additional
sally
port
gates
in
the
back
to
actually
create
additional
security
measures
that
further
protect
the
facility
and
those
around
it.
So
we
believe
that
we
will
be
delivering
the
same
quality
that
we
proposed
a
year
ago
and
still
be
able
to
handle
changes
in
the
state
regs
as
they
may
come
about.
J
T
Well,
those
regulations
have
now
changed,
so
I
think
that's
sort
of
an
academic
question.
The
answer
was
no.
We
were
not
prepared
to
do
so,
essentially
because
of
the
cost
of
building
out
a
very
extensive
and
very
expensive
facility
that
really
had
no
use
beyond
a
cannabis
dispensary
I
mean
once
we
left
that
facility.
J
T
Well,
we
believe
to
best
serve
the
residents
of
thousand
oaks
in
canada
valley
that
actually,
delivery
is
a
convenience,
as
it
was
mentioned,
you
know,
for
those
customers,
patients
who
don't
have
the
physical
ability
to
reach
the
store
it
does
provide
a
convenience.
T
We
do
believe
that
essentially,
once
folks
get
comfortable
with
a
certain
regime
that
they
like
to
use,
that
deliveries
will
probably
be
more
of
a
option
for
them.
Just
because
thousand
oaks
is
a
very
spread
out
community
and
so
to
save
30
minutes
going
to
newbury
park.
They
might
actually
then
elect
to
use
a
delivery
for
their
products.
T
I'm
sorry,
I
thought
I
made
that
clear,
yeah.
No,
we
believe
we
believe
that
deliveries,
it's
not
something
that
we
wanted
quite
frankly,
but
we
do
believe
that
that
deliveries
now
can
be
made
by
other
folks.
So
if
the
city
didn't
want
its
licensee
to
make
deliveries,
then
you're,
essentially
allowing
other
folks
in
other
communities.
J
M
J
T
I
understand
okay.
Well,
if
that's
the
case,
then
that
becomes
the
law
of
the
land,
and
we
of
course
accept
that
you
know
we
were
having
to
respond
to
the
very
specific
changes
in
the
state
regulations
and
we
basically
had
two
choices.
We
would
have
had
to
completely
redesign
our
facility
in
order
to
accommodate
one
or
two
or
three
delivery
vehicles,
and
we
actually
shared
those
plans
with
staff.
T
So
we
would
have
had
to
come
back
to
the
city
to
approve
a
change
of
our
floor
plan
and
security
plan
and
safety
plan
to
accommodate
a
couple.
Delivery
vehicles
or
the
alternative
which
most
folks
would
do,
would
would
be
in
a
normal
business
that
didn't
have
common
ownership
of
the
parking
facilities.
T
They
would
just
simply
do
their
delivery
activities
in
parking
common
areas,
unfortunately,
for
us,
because
of
the
the
the
specific
legal
nature
of
that
project,
that
was
not
acceptable,
and
so
therefore
we
had
one
of
two
choices.
You
know
got
the
bricks
and
mortar
operation
that
we
felt
was
really
critical
or
to
do
illegal
activities,
and
we
were
not
type
of
operators
to
do
illegal
activities.
N
I
Good
evening,
hello,
mayor
mccoy
mayor
pro
tem,
adam
city,
council,
members
and
city
staff,
it's
been
almost
three
years
now
been
on
this
road.
To
think
that
we'd,
be
here,
is
kind
of
still
without
a
dispensary.
Open
is
kind
of
concerning
I'll
start
with
the
staff
report
page
four
bottom
I'll
go
quickly
because
of
the
time
the
permit
issued
a
legendary
organ
expires
on
december
31st,
2019.
per
thousand
oaks
municipal
code,
section,
59
or
5-29
period.
12,
a
cannabis
business
must
be
in
continuous
operation
for
four
months
prior
to
the
renewal
application.
I
Since
there
has
been
no
state
license
issued
and
the
business
is
not
currently
in
operations,
it
is
not
likely
that
the
permit
will
be
eligible
for
renewal.
The
legendary
organics
has
formally
requested
a
change
location.
However,
the
executed
operations
agreement
is
specific
to
the
address
for
which
it
was
approved.
Moreover,
the
ability
to
request
a
change
in
location
under
the
code
presumes
that
the
business
has
operated
at
the
original
location.
I
I
I
I
request
that
the
city
vote
for
number
one
or
four
and
number
six
from
the
staff
report
oxnard
is
looking
at
permitting
different
uses
in
separate
timelines.
A
storefront
must
be
an
option
for
patients,
because
one
must
be
able
to
view
and
inspect
the
medicine
that
they
are
buying.
Deliveries
are
usually
a
best
option.
After
one
visits
the
brick
and
mortar
building,
I
request.
I
request
the
council
remove
the
24
hour
appointment
requirement.
I
Allow
the
dispensary,
based
within
the
city
to
deliver
local
ordinances
must
be
very
specific
in
allowing
delivery
within
the
city
from
businesses
based
within
the
city
and
the
ordinance
this
city
has
would
not
allow
a
permanent
dispensary
within
the
city
to
continue
sorry
to
conduct
deliveries
within
the
city.
The
state
legislation
that
it
is
allows
for
a
permanent
base
of
operation
based
within
another
city,
to
deliver
to
any
jurisdiction
within
the
state
of
california.
Because
of
free
commerce.
I
You
cannot
stop
free
car,
free
commerce,
but
if
the
the
entity
based
within
this
city
does
not
thoroughly
state
within
this
city's
ordinances
that
not
only
not
only
storefront
dispensary,
but
a
delivery
service
is
permitted
within
that
that
entity,
then
that
entity
could
conduct
deliveries
within
this
city,
otherwise
they
are
subject
to
other
entities
coming
into
that
city.
Thank
you,
mr
kyle.
B
S
Thank
you
first
point.
We
heard
a
comment
regarding
industrial
hemp
staff
is
not
confused
about
the
issue.
It
is
an
ever-changing
matter
before
both
federal
and
state.
There
is
currently
two
significant
state
legislation
enactments
pending
right
now,
department
of
agriculture.
The
gentleman
is
correct,
has
taken
over
the
issue
for
industrial
hemp
and
a
federal
level.
S
S
You
heard
a
couple
comments
about
deliveries.
We
have
an
operations
agreement
and
our
ordinance
does
state.
No
deliveries
are
permitted.
Yes,
we
have
this
issue
with
state
the
state
bbc,
making
bcc
making
comments
about
deliveries
and
making
the
new
legislation,
but
our
operations
agreement
which
is
controlling
on
this
matter,
does
not
permit
deliveries.
S
The
issue
has
got
to
be,
of
course,
in
fairness
to
any
operator
that
operates
out
of
thousand
oaks.
Is
whether
or
not
you
want
to
consider
that
as
an
option
for
them
to
allow
deliveries
in
fairness,
because
we
now
right
now
have
to
deal
with
deliveries
from
outside
sources,
but
the
operations
agreement
that
we
would
negotiate
is
what
we
would
call
controlling
and
so
again,
the
option
for
deliveries
is
something
that
we
put
in
there
as
a
discussion
point,
because
we
understand
now,
you
can
go
statewide
deliveries.
I
Yeah,
just
I
have
one
quick
follow-up
representatives
from
legendary
organics
made
made
comment.
We
did
sit
down
in
june.
The
comment
was
was
made
that
they
offered
to
return
the
the
license
and
that
I
had
encouraged
them
to
look
for
another
location.
I
think
that
that
is
a
bit
misconstrued
and
that
the
discussion
was
focused
on
where
they
were
going
to
turn
next.
O
Just
one
final
comment
also
just
want
to
vice
counsel,
that
any
timelines
that
council
is
interested
with
respect
to
construction
and
opening
for
business
has
to
be
based
on
having
obviously
an
application.
That's
been
processed
and
approved
a
fully
executed
operations
agreement,
the
business
issuance
of
the
business
permit
issuance
of
the
state
license,
there's
also
the
tenant
improvements.
So
you
know
with
respect
to
the
ability
to
open
by
the
end
of
the
year.
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure
that
that
is
an
a
a
realistic.
O
Yes,
and
actually
I'm
going
to
have
mr
heeher
he's
kind
of
our
cannabis.
S
O
S
There
is
a
there
is
a
section
in
our
code
that
does
save
that,
for
the
business
permit,
so
the
operations
agreement
that
we
have
with
the
legendary
is
for
five
years,
but
the
business
permit
to
operate
is
a
annual
permit.
This
annual
permit
that
was
given
to
legendary
expires
on
december
31st
2019.,
so
the
issue
becomes
depending
on
what
happens
tonight.
Is
that
for
a
business
permit
to
be
react,
reenacted
and,
and
given
another
approved.
N
S
H
S
S
The
second
thing
we
need
to
do
is
we
need
to
go
out
and
discuss
if
you're
to
pick
number
five.
Do
you
want
to
have
any
other
restrictions
that
are
in
our
ordinance
that
you
might
think
should
be
changed?
One
of
them,
for
example,
was
the
requirement
for
a
24-hour
appointment.
Another
one
was
delivery.
Another
one
was
about
the
timing
for
the
appointments
and
when
they
come
in
those
are
things
that
we
could
look
at
for
you
and
present
those
to
you.
S
If
you
wanted
to
amend
the
ordinance
when
we
do
it
for
the
medical
facility,
since
we
have
to
amend
it
for
two,
the
other
thing
we
would
do
is
direct
us
to
negotiate
operations
agreements
with
both
legendary
and
leaf
and
those
that's
the
agreement
that
we
created
to
talk
about
the
use
at
that
location,
specific
location.
Since
it
would
be
a
new
location
for
legendary,
we
would
have
to
do
it
for
that
new
location,
because
it's
very
specific
to
that.
S
S
S
S
H
H
K
Thank
you,
mayor
yeah.
I
think
we
have
two
sets
of
issues
in
front
of
us
here.
As
councilmember
jones
was
talking
about.
We
have
to
decide.
Do
we
still
want
a
medical
marijuana
facility
in
thousand
oaks,
and
if
we
do
do
we
want
leaf
or
legendary
or
both
first
first
set
of
issues.
The
second
set
of
issues
is
the
new
directions
that
we
might
give
staff
as
far
as
delivery
as
far
as
operating
hours
as
far
as
this
business
of
appointments.
But
so
let's
talk
about
the
first
set
of
issues.
K
First,
you
know
starting
a
whole
new
process
at
this
point
seems
to
me
to
be
ill-advised.
The
process
that
we
went
through
was
extremely
stringent
and
we
came
up
with
two
very
solid
applicants.
I
think,
to
eliminate
legendary
and
depends
strictly
on
delivery.
Very
problematic,
as
you
can
tell
from
chief
hagel.
Most
of
the
delivery
happening
is
illegal
here
in
thousand
oaks,
and
we
don't
get
any
taxes
on
it.
K
We
can't
control
it
and
it's
it's
something
that
I
just
don't
think
is
going
to
work
to
open
a
new
application
process
for
legendary
x's
out
leafed.
To
allow
leaf
to
operate
x
is
out
legendary
and,
as
councilmember
jones
says,
I
don't
think
it's
fair
to
either
one
to
eliminate
one
or
the
other.
So
to
me
option
five
makes
the
most
sense.
I
think
there's
room
for
two
dispensaries
here
in
the
city.
I
think
there's
probably
room
for
even
more
true
dispensaries
based
on
our
population.
K
In
my
mind,
let
legendary
proceed
on
with
a
new
location,
we'll
vet,
it
we'll
put
them
through
the
process,
hopefully
it'll
work
and
and
they
can
they
can
open,
and
I
certainly
don't
want
to
have
leaf
wait
any
longer
than
they
already
have.
They
have
good
experience
in
this
business.
I
think
they're
ready
to
go
and
I
think
the
best
solution
of
those
options
is
to
allow
both
dispensaries
to
go
forward.
B
Questions.
Thank
you
mayor
pro
tem
council
member
bill
de
la
pena.
J
Thank
you.
I
have
questions
for
staff
actually,
so
the.
J
S
There
have
been
no
dispositive
motions
and
by
dispositive
motion
I
mean
that
there's
been
no
motion
that
would,
if
it
was
granted,
would
end
the
case
one
way
or
another
like
a
motion.
For
summary
judgment
would
be
the
example,
so
there's
nothing
there.
In
fact,
right
now,
they're
in
the
middle
of
discovery
and
according
to
the
court,
there
is
a
request
for
delay
due
to
a
31,
000
page
document
that
the
state
has
regarding
their
decision
to
make
deliveries
statewide.
S
So
with
that,
my
sis,
my
expectation,
would
be
that
at
the
it
would
be
at
least
until
the
late
2020
were
any
decision
in
the
truck
would
be
made.
Let
me
with
a
caveat,
though,
that
I
would
suspect
that,
due
to
the
nature
and
impact
of
this
decision,
one
side
or
another
would
probably
appeal
that
decision.
S
J
Thank
you,
mr
heeher
chief
hegel.
What
was
the
number
of
illegal
deliveries
that
your
investigators
discovered.
E
Well,
I'm
with
respect
I'm
going
to
hold
it
right
now,
because
tomorrow
we're
going
to
be
serving
papers
to
these
companies,
so
they're
going
to
get
a
wake-up
call
this
week
we're
going
to
be
taking
some
legal
action
against
the
actual
delivery
companies.
E
So
I'm
going
to
come
back
with
those
details,
but
what
I
wanted
to
emphasize
was
that
every
single
we
we
just
ordered
up
the
marijuana
as
joe
mentioned
right
off
of
weed
maps
and
every
single
one
that
we
ordered
up
was
an
illegal
delivery
without
a
city
business
license,
so
we'll
be
they're
going
to
be
hearing
from
us.
I
Add
on
to
that,
in
addition,
as
mr
tato
mentioned
in
the
presentation,
it's
important
for
the
public
to
know
as
well,
the
city
has
been
quite
proactive
since
the
council's
action.
I
All
of
these
companies
on
notice
about
our
regulatory
framework,
so
they've
received
not
one
but
two
direct
mailings
with
a
copy
of
our
business
license
application
and
our
tax
remittance
form
and
policy
associated
with
it.
So
our
enforcement
activities
are
geared
at
when
that,
when
the
rate
of
adoption
did
not
come
back
in
a
manner
that
we
felt
was
appropriate.
That's
when
enforcement
activities
began
and
as
g
peggle
mentioned,
we
intend
to
continue
enforcing
those
regulations.
Great.
J
Thank
you
and
one
more
question
from
mr
heeher.
S
S
Sure,
but
we
also
have
to
negotiate
an
operations
agreement
which
I
I
can't
predict
how
long
that
will
take.
The
second
thing
is
I:
I
do
not
think
they
could
have
a
state
license
for
this
city
yet
because
they
don't
have
a
license
a
permit
from
our
city.
Yet
so
I'm
not
saying
that,
wouldn't
it
happen
in
a
short
time
period,
but
certainly
they
could
move
forward,
probably
quicker
because
of
their
locations
already
been
pre-approved
as
far
as
the
last
last
year's
evaluation.
J
Okay
and
let's
see
how
long
might
it
take,
then,
to
change
our
ordinance
to
amend
our
ordinance.
S
J
Okay,
I.
I
O
They
don't
have
to
yeah,
they
don't
have
to
have
to
happen
sequentially.
We
could
bring
operations,
agreements
and
changes
to
ordnance
at
the
same
time,
and
just
the
effective
date
for
the
operations
agreement
wouldn't
occur
until
the
actual
effective
date
of
the
ordinance.
I
say:
okay,.
J
Well,
yeah
because
it
oh
and
then
of
course
eliminating
the
restrictive
hours
that
the
24-hour
notice,
in
my
opinion,
doesn't
make
any
sense
anymore,
with
all
the
changes
going
on
and
with
the
the
regulations
regarding
hemp
changing
constantly.
I
think
we
need
to
hold
off
on
that
and
just
focus
on
cannabis.
First.
K
D
Thank
you
mayor
as,
as
with
the
council
member
jones,
I
was
not
on
the
council
when
it
was
done.
However,
I
did
spend
some
time
and
sat
through
the
recording
of
the
deliberations
that
the
council
did
during
that
time,
and
the
council
did
some
very,
very
good
deliberation
on
it,
listened
to
testimony
by
both
applicants.
D
In
my
opinion,
both
applicants
were
equally
qualified
and
the
thing
I
took
away
from
listening
to
everybody
on
the
diocese
that
day
was
that
we
full
that
the
council
fully
anticipated
and
expected
that
within
a
year
or
so
there
would
be
a
a
need
or
a
opportunity
for
another
cannabis
dispensary
within
town,
given
that
I
think
with
with
equally
qualified
applicants
and
the
anticipation
a
year
ago,
that
we
would
probably
go
with
two,
which,
just
so
happens,
to
be
fairly
geographically
distributed
throughout
the
town.
D
I
see
no
reason
to
not
support
number
five,
notwithstanding
that
the
one
applicant
did
have
a
year
to
perform,
but
for
various
reasons
was
unable
to.
I
think
that
at
this
point,
they'll
be
able
to
move
forward
and
I
trust
that
they
will
be
able
to
come
to
an
agreement
with
the
staff
to
be
able
to
do
so.
D
As
far
as
the
secondary
issues
of
delivery
and
those
those
types
of
secondary
issues,
I
think
we
have
to
recognize
that
the
regulatory
ground
has
shifted
under
us.
All.
Deliveries
are
now
allowed
and
it
makes
no
sense
anymore,
and
I
agree
with
council
member
bill
de
la
pena
that
it
makes
no
business
sense
anymore
to
require
a
24-hour
wait
period
and
that
sort
of
thing.
So
I
would
encourage
staff
to
look
at
some
of
the
types
of
things
that
we
did
put
on
our
last
effort
and
remove
those
that
no
longer
make
sense.
B
J
Just
very
quickly,
I
would
also
direct
if,
if
my
colleagues
concur
the
to
eliminate
the
24
hours
in
advance,
the
operating
hours,
not
sure
whether
we
want
to
stick
to
10
a.m,
to
7
p.m.
P
H
K
Okay,
so
are
we
going
to
tack
that
on
to
this
motion
that
councilmember
jones
made.
A
K
B
Councilmember
jones
motion,
madam
clerk,
will
you
prepare
the
vote?
Please.
K
Reiterated
with
council
member
bill
bill
de
pena
said
we
erred
on
the
side
of
caution
when
we
started
out
with
this
thing,
but
things
have
changed.
I
think
we
should
eliminate
the
24-hour
waiting
period.
It
doesn't
make
any
sense
at
this
point,
especially
since
deliveries
are
allowed,
and
it's
it's
better
for
the
patients.
I
mean
they
need
to
get
access
to
this.
K
We
need
to
allow
delivery,
because
now
we're
going
to
have
two
dispensaries
with
legal
delivery
that
we
can
tax
and
monitor
and,
as
the
gentleman's
there
said,
legal
delivery
and
bricks
and
mortars
can
deter
illegal
delivery,
so
that
could
actually
be
a
plus
there.
And
finally,
as
far
as
the
hours
go,
I
believe
we
voted
to
go
from
10
a.m,
to
7
p.m,
claudia.
How
would
how
would
you
feel
if
we
expanded
that
a
little
bit
to
maybe
like
from
8am
to
9pm
or
yeah.
K
J
Cvs,
pharmacy
or
rite
aid,
or
whatever
they're
open.
You
know
until
midnight,
there's
one
24-hour
in
this
town.
So
probably
since
this
is
medicinal,
probably
I
wouldn't
go
past
nine
o'clock,
though.
J
K
Okay,
so
we
got
the
hours
we
get
delivery
and
we've
got
the
appointments
that
we're
going
to
address.
K
S
S
S
So
we
do
have
24
hour
appointment,
eliminate
that
yes
allow
deliveries
for
both
facilities.
Yes,
no
recreational
and
operation
hours
from
8
a.m,
to
9
00
p.m,
sound.
K
D
Mayor
council,
member.
I
Just
one,
if
I
may
real
quick
council
member
engler,
just
because
we
were
on
the
topic
of
deliveries-
and
it
is
an
important
note,
because
assistant
attorney
he
heard-
is
going
to
be
negotiating
the
operations
agreement.
The
parameters
for
negotiating
the
operations
agreement
will
be
different.
Now
that
deliveries
are
an
aspect.
Deliveries
result
in
traffic
flow
and
patterns,
parking
of
vehicles,
a
lot
of
components
that
weren't
necessarily
contemplated
in
the
original
manner.
I
So
I
I'm
just
first
of
all
making
council
aware
of
that,
but
secondly,
just
making
sure
you
know
that,
as
a
as
from
a
negotiation
standpoint,
he's
going
to
be
having
conversations
with
that
and
likely
engaging
public
works
and
planning
staff
in
those
in
those
discussions,
and
so
that
will
be
part
of
his
purview.
D
Councilmember
engler,
thank
you
mayor,
just
a
quick,
a
quick
comment
from
chief
hagel
as
the
hours
expand,
especially
into
the
night
hours
with
this
type
of
business,
with
at
currently
we'll
see
what
happens
in
the
future,
but
currently
in
a
cash
type
of
situation.
D
E
I
think
that
the
new
proposed
hours
fall
perfect
within
our
perimeters
for
our
patrol
operations,
so
that
that'll
fold
in
nicely
with
our
patrol
operation
shift
change
deployment
levels.
So
I
don't
have
a
philosophical
problem
with
those
hours.
S
K
I
Her
performance
review
for
fiscal
year
2018-19
was
completed
by
council
on
august
27
2019
for
your
consideration,
a
resolution
and
amendment
to
the
existing
city
attorney
agreement,
reflecting
an
increase
in
annual
salary,
effective
july
13
2019
from
261
thousand
six
hundred
seventy
dollars
to
two
hundred.
Seventy
two
thousand
one
hundred
thirty
seven
dollars
is
before
you
city
council
also
reviews
the
city
manager's
performance
on
an
annual
basis
in
his
performance
review
for
fiscal
year,
2018-19
was
also
completed
by
council
on
august
27
2019.
I
The
change
to
the
existing
city
manager
agreement
presented
for
your
consideration
reflects
an
increase
in
annual
salary,
effective
july
13
2019
from
two
thousand
five
two
hundred
fifty
nine
thousand
two
hundred
ninety
five
dollars
to
two
hundred
sixty
nine
thousand
six
hundred
and
sixty
seven
dollars
council
will
need
to
consider
these
adjustments
separately.
I'm
available
answering
questions.
Council
may
have.
B
We
have
no
public
speakers
and
no
more
council
questions.
We
would
like
to
make
a
motion.
You
have
a
motion
with
any
other
questions.
I
guess
we're
good.
Madam
clerk.
B
Thank
you,
madam
clerk,
that
takes
us
to
12-b
compensation
and
third
amendment
to
employment
agreement
for
city
manager.
J
I
don't
really
have
any
questions,
but
normally
when
we
go
through
this
employment
evaluation
and
then
renewing
the
contract,
we
do
explain
why.
We
feel
that
the
city
attorney
and
city
manager
should
receive
a
raise.
J
J
I
think
I
think,
given
that
we've
had
the
year
from
hell,
I.
B
J
Have
been
especially
difficult
for
the
city
of
thousand
oaks,
as
we
all
know,
and
our
city
manager
and
our
city
attorney
have
led
their
team
in
the
city
with
such
grace
and
compassion
and
effectiveness,
and
just
pure
commitment
during
the
borderline
shooting,
as
well
as
the
woolsey
fire
and
the
hill
fire,
that
they
are
being
honored.
And
how
shall
I
say
it:
they're,
being
honored
and
respected
throughout
the
state
of
california
and
other
cities
for
the
way
they
ran.
J
A
major
emergency
twin
emergencies
on
november
8th
and
that
made
makes
them
stand
out
and
stand
apart
from
the
rest
of
city
managers
and
city
attorneys
in
california,
and
I'm
for
I'm.
I'm
forever
thankful
and
grateful
to
drew
and
to
tracy
for
having
done
what
they
did
to
keep
us
together
and
to
pull
us
through
our
darkest
hours.
So,
and
I
I've
personally
thought
that
that
warranted
a
raise.
And
that
is
why
I
voted
for
one.
B
That
or
excuse
me
states
that
have
suffered
or
cities
that
have
suffered
across
this
nation
have
called
our
city
for
insights
and
wisdom
as
to
how
to
navigate
waters
that
no
city
should
ever
face,
and
the
exemplary
work
of
both
of
those
folks
have
really
touched
me
deeply,
and
I
know
this
entire
council
and
it
was
just
very,
very
easy
for
all
of
us
to
come
to
the
conclusion
that
they
needed
to
be
recognized
for
that,
and
so,
like
you,
council,
member
is
an
it's
easy
for
me
to
do
this
and
to
vote
for
this.
D
Thank
you
mayor.
Yes,
just
having
been
sort
of
onboarded
this
year
as
a
new
council
member
and
having
had
in
having
worked
for
a
city
for
30
years
in
my
prior
employment,
I
can.
I
can
testify
that
both
the
city
attorney
and
the
city
manager
have
been
excellent
in
bringing
new
people
on
board
and
getting
us
up
to
speed
quickly
with
the
intricacies
of
this
city.
K
Thank
you,
mayor
great
organizations,
have
great
teamwork
and
tracy
and
drew
form
a
excellent
team
and
they've
surrounded
themselves
with
top
drawer
people
on
their
team.
They're,
both
results
driven
and
they
really
rose
to
the
occasion.
As
we
went
through
some
of
the
most
difficult
times,
the
city
has
ever
faced
uncharted
territory
and
the
way
the
two
of
them
work
together
to
handle
the
situation
is
being
emulated
in
other
cities.
K
They
really
created
a
model
on
how
to
handle
a
situation
that,
hopefully
no
one
will
ever
have
to
face
again,
so
their
their
performance
has
been
excellent
and
these
the
compensation
is
well
deserved.
H
Yeah,
I
would
agree
with
councilman
engler.
I
have
not
been
here
for
a
long
time.
I
mean
seven
months.
I
guess,
and
I've
had
some
experience
with
other
public
entities
and
I
don't
think
I've
ever
seen
a
public
entity
city
park
district
county
that
runs
any
more
smoothly
than
this
one
does,
and
what
really
gets
me
is
the
morale
I
you
can
tell
there's
high
morale
here.
Yeah.
I
H
R
N
H
Feel
that
we're
very
fortunate
here
to
have
the
team
that
we
have,
and
so
I
think
this
is
just
one
small
way
we
can
express
our
gratitude.
B
Mr
powers,
I
bought
you
some
time,
so
you
can
do
any
follow-up
items.
I
Thank
you
mayor
mccoy,
and
thank
you
to
the
entire
council
for
the
kind
words
our
next
regular
schedule
meeting
is
two
weeks
from
tonight
on
the
24th.
I
We
currently
have
a
couple
of
items
that
are
percolating
on
special
presentations,
we'll
be
recognizing
emergency
preparedness
month
with
red
cross,
we'll
have
a
report
from
the
ventura
county
alliance,
civic
alliance,
the
state
of
the
regional
report
and
a
proclamation
from
mini
mansion's,
40th
anniversary
on
department
reports.
We
will
have
an
update
on
the
sustainability
component
of
the
general
plan
and
an
elections
update
from
our
city
clerk
and
those
are
the
primary
items
for
that
evening.
Just
want
to
remind
everyone.
Once
again,
we
do
have
a
community
workshop
for
the
general
plan.