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The
city
of
thousand
dogs,
like
most
cities
in
california,
is
vulnerable
to
numerous
emergency
situations,
such
as
earthquakes,
wildfires
and
floods.
When
such
emergencies
strike
as
they
did
last
year
with
the
fires,
our
local
chapter
of
the
american
red
cross
is
always
available
to
provide
aid
and
support
our
residents
on
a
side
note-
and
this
is
off
script
but
come
on
over
here,
so
I
can
see
it
tony.
If
you
don't
mind,
I
went
out
to
some
of
the
evacuation
centers
and
the
minute
I
got
there.
The
red
cross
was
already
setting
up.
B
You
guys
were
so
instrumental
in
caring
for
the
citizens
of
our
community,
and
now
I'm
going
to
go
back
on
script
in
recognition
of
their
local
work,
in
an
effort
to
encourage
everyone
in
thousand
oaks
to
prepare
for
an
emergency
at
home
at
work
and
at
school.
I'd
like
to
proclaim
september
2019
is
national
emergency
preparedness
month.
Mr
briggs,
it's
time
for
you
to
accept
this
proclamation,
alrighty.
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We'll
have
a
preparedness
fair
here
in
thousand
oaks
at
the
street,
fair
and
it'll,
be
on
october
20th
and
we'll
be
here
all
day,
we'll
set
up
a
mock
shelter.
We
will
have
folks
here
that
will
be
able
to
show
you
exactly
what
happens
when
you
check
into
a
red
cross,
shelter
and
then
on
the
following
thursday,
which
is
the
24th
of
october.
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We'll
have
a
panel
where
we
have
members
who
have
been
affected
by
the
local
disasters
and
we
have
folks
from
the
red
cross,
and
we
also
have
some
first
responders,
who
will
be
there
to
talk
about
what
happens
when
the
community
comes
together
to
help
those
in
need.
So,
in
closing
I'd
like
to
say
thank
you
for
this
honor
and
we
stand
here
to
continue
to
serve
in
this
city.
Thank
you
very
much.
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And
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
thousand
oaks,
you
thanked
us
and
the
city
of
thousand
oaks,
including
all
of
its
residents,
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
red
cross,
and
so
this
is
for
you
and
then
we're
going
to
have
chief
speicherman
come
up
and
talk
some
more
and
then
we'll
take
a
picture
so
get
makeup
and
all
that
stuff
and
we'll
be
ready
for
it.
Chief.
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Thank
you,
mayor
city,
council
members
for
the
audience
my
name
is
john
speicher
and
I'm
the
fire
chief
for
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
and
there's
we
like
every
single
month
but
national
preparedness
month.
It
is.
It
hits
home
for
us
and
it's
one
of
our
favorite
months
and
then
it's
in
the
weeks
of
october.
We
have
fire
prevention
week
so
for
us
we're
always
preparing
all
the
time.
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So
when
it
comes
to
national
preparedness
preparedness
month,
we
just
try
to
focus
on
some
of
those
things
that
we
learned
throughout
the
year.
So
so
I
jotted
a
few
things
down
that.
What
we're
doing
right
now,
some
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
with
the
city
and
some
of
the
things
we're
doing
at
the
fire
department
so
currently
today,
because
of
the
for
our
first
east,
real
east
wind
and
the
relative
humidities,
we
are
we're
in
what's
called
a
plan,
one
brush.
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So
what
that
does
is
that
means
we
augment
our
staffing.
So
we
have
have
additional
resources
on
scene
resources
available
today
throughout
the
county,
some
of
our
helicopters,
our
hand,
crews,
bulldozers
and
additional
engines
as
well
as
overhead
staff.
So
that
way,
if
we
do
have
a
fire,
we
could
fill
those
fill
those
positions
that
we
need
that
are
critical
to
make
those
decisions,
develop
strategies
and
implement
those
tactics
to
try
to
get
those
fires
out
as
soon
as
we
possibly
can.
So
they
don't
get
large.
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Throughout
this
season
we
have
weather
briefings
every
single
day,
so
some
of
those
are
just
notes
that
we
get
sent
to
us
like
on
an
email
and
then,
on
days
like
today,
we
actually
have
a
conference
call
with
different
city
staff
and
different
organizations,
fire
departments
throughout
ventura
county,
along
with
the
united
states,
forest
service
and
cal
fire,
and
we
talk
about
the
weather
and
we
talk
about
what
resources
each
one
of
our
agencies
has
available
for
today.
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We
also
do
what's
called
an
operational
area
coordination
call
where
we
talk
to
all
the
fire
departments,
including
the
naval
base,
ventura
county
oxnard
city,
ventura,
city,
cal,
fire,
the
forest
service
and
la
county
in
l.a
city
as
well,
santa
barbara
and
kern
county.
So
we
all
get
on
this
telephone
call,
and
we
say
these
are
the
these
are
the
resources
that
we
have
staffed
up
today.
So
that
way,
if
ventura
county
has
a
fire
or
the
city
a
thousand
oaks,
we
can
immediately
call
l.a
county
santa
barbara.
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Our
our
partners
that
surround
us
and
have
those
resources
sent
before
they
even
go
through
what
we
call
the
raw
system,
which
takes
a
little
bit
of
time.
So
our
neighboring
partners,
as
well
as
us,
we'll
send
those
resources,
so
we
don't
have
to
sit
there
and
wait
45
minutes
from
somebody
to
travel.
It
just
shortens
that
time.
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We
have
the
ability,
because
we
are
a
contract
county
with
cal
fire.
We
get
air
resources
quicker
than
everybody
else,
so
right
off
the
bat
whatever
cal
fire
gets
on
their
fires
and
their
different
units.
We
also
get
that
here,
so
we
can
immediately
launch
air
tankers
to
our
fires
and
we
actually
had
a
fire
today
off
the
hi
of
highway
33..
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We
had
two
air
tankers
launched
and
we
ended
up
getting
to
cancel
those
because
the
fire
didn't
get
big,
so
that
was
that
was
a
benefit
we
also
right
now
are
in
partner
with
other
contract
counties,
la
county
orange
county
kern,
santa
barbara.
We
have
an
aircraft
in
county
right
now
at
the
camarillo
airport
that
any
fire
that
ignites
we
that
aircraft
will
be
launched
and
what
it
does
is
it
maps
the
fire
for
us.
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G
In
ventura
county
and
it
actually
flew
today
as
a
test
flight
year
round,
we
monitor
all
the
fuel
moistures
throughout
the
county
also,
so
we
can
tell
when
they're,
at
critical
levels
of
ignition
right
now,
they're
just
above
those
those
levels
because
of
all
the
rain
we
had.
That
was
just
a
benefit
for
us
this
year,
but
as
those
east
winds
come
in,
that's
really
low
humidities
with
that
warming
air
will
really
drop
those
fuel
moisture.
So
right
now
we're
still
okay,
but
we're
really
close
to
that
critical
level.
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Our
fire
hazard
reduction
program.
Anybody
who
lives
in
that
urban
interface,
probably
gets
a
weed
abatement
notice.
Hopefully
it's
not
a
hassle
to
everybody.
Hopefully
you
enjoy
cutting
all
your
weeds
and
trimming
brush,
but
it
is
really
critical
for
us
what
it
does
is.
It
gives
us
that
that
gives
homeowners
a
defensible
space
for
their
property.
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If
you
look
up
in
the
hills
right
now,
those
fuels
haven't
burned
for
over
20
years,
and
so
that's
a
target
area.
So
we're
looking
at
those
areas.
If
we
have
an
east
wind
fire,
we're
ready
we're
planning
for
making
sure
our
water,
our
water
tanks,
are
full.
We
have
evacuation
areas
scheduled
or
or
be
able
to
pick
evacuation
zones
that
are
realistic,
so
we're
not
evacuating
people
that
don't
have
to
be
evacuated.
G
Looking
at
escape
routes
for
citizens,
as
well
as
planning
out
shelters
depending
on
where
those
fires
may
start.
So
we
can
put
people
in
safe
environments,
also
everybody's
heard
of
the
southern
california
edison
power
shut
off
their
plan.
So
that
is
what
we're
all
trying
to
do.
We're
trying
to
be
prepared
for
that
right
now.
For
this
wind
event,
southern
california,
edison
hasn't
has
it
has
not
planned
to
shut
off
any
power
in
ventura
county,
but
that
doesn't
mean
if
a
fire
starts
that
it
will
not
damage
that
infrastructure.
G
Anything
can
damage
that
and
if
we
lose
power
you
just
need
to
be
make
sure
that
you're
prepared
and
then
it's
always
communication,
so
we're
always
trying
to
better
our
communication
with
other
first
responders,
our
operational
area,
the
city
and
the
county,
so
that
we
can
report
that
information
and
also
reporting
that
information
to
what's
most
important
to
us,
and
that's
you,
the
citizens
of
the
thousand
oaks
area,
because
we
want
to
put
out
that
timely,
accurate
information
that
you
can
trust
now
stuff,
that's
being
sent
on
different
people's
twitter's
account.
G
G
So
some
of
those
sites
that
you
can
look
at
are
the
thousand
oak
city
site
their
their
website
as
well
as
vcfd.org,
and
that
information
that
you
can
get
from
there
is
trusted,
and
then
you
can
take
appropriate
action.
So
that's
about
what
I
have
to
say
tonight.
So
thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
it.
B
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And
ethan
walker,
who
is
our
preparedness
manager
for
the
region
and
also
with
us,
as
as
everyone
already
knows,
sue
is
here
with
us,
and
she
is
our
recovery,
lead
and
she's.
Absolutely
amazing.
Without
folks
like
this,
we
could
not
do
what
we
do
every
single
day.
So
I
thank
you
guys
for
what
you
guys
do
all
right.
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B
Two
more
to
go:
I'd
like
to
introduce
david
marin
from
the
ventura
county,
civic
alliance.
To
present
the
state
of
the
region
report
he's
doing
that
on
behalf
of
ventura
county
civic
alliance,
but
he's
also
the
best
moderator
for
debates
in
the
city.
So
david
come
on
up
man.
H
Mr
mayor,
members
of
the
council
staff
and
members
of
the
audience,
I'm
david
marin
with
the
ventura
county,
civic
alliance
for
those
who
are
not
familiar
with
the
alliance,
it's
a
regional
organization.
We
try
to
look
at
things
in
a
neutral
manner
across
the
county.
We
have
10
cities,
but
as
far
as
a
regional
group
that
looks
at
the
quality
of
life
here
in
ventura
county
to
continue
that
quality
of
life
for
our
children
and
grandchildren.
So
that's
our
mission
and
tonight
I'm
sharing
with
you
the
report
that
we
produce
every
two
years.
H
This
report
is
researched
by
the
folks
over
at
kalu
thran
university,
dr
jamshid
damui
and
his
team,
and
we
look
at
indicators
across
the
county,
so
we
could
not
produce
this
report
and
distribute
it
without
the
support
of
our
sponsors
and
just
a
few
of
them:
the
ventura
county
community
foundation,
the
ventura
county
community
college
district
and
these
other
businesses
era
att
the
two
universities
also
liminera
haas
montecito
bank
and
the
county
of
ventura.
So
one
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
point
out.
H
H
We
continue
to
get
older,
and
that
is
a
problem
for
long-term
policymakers.
Like
you
on
this
page,
we
also
break
down
the
average,
the
number
of
children
under
18
and
the
number
of
adults
over
65
in
each
of
the
cities.
So
you
can
compare.
H
As
far
as
you
all
being
politicians,
I
thought
I'd
share
with
you.
The
registration
statistics
for
those
I
know
it's
hard
to
read,
but
the
blue
represents
democrats
read
as
republicans
and
green
is
the
no
party
preference.
H
This
chart
is
the
ventura
county
and
you
can
see
that
over
the
last
15
20
years
democrats
have
held
about
the
same,
but
the
no
party
preference
has
become
the
party
that
most
people
are
registering
with
and
the
republicans
are
losing
because
of
that
in
individual
cities
we
have
some
cities
like
oxnard
that
are
predominantly
democratic,
sami
valley
leads
the
county
as
far
as
the
most
republican
registered,
and
you
can
certainly
read
all
of
these
statistics
in
there.
One
of
the
other
things
that's
not
here
is
the
number
of
people
that
are
voting.
H
Absentino
has
just
skyrocketed
more
people
vote
absentee
today
than
go
to
the
polls,
so
for
those
of
you,
politicians
that
certainly
changes
the
dynamic.
When
you're
running
for
office
like
to
also
mention
that
nonprofit
revenues
ventura
county,
we
have
a
lot
of
philanthropy.
Certainly
we
saw
that
after
borderline
in
the
woolsey
fire
people
opening
their
purses,
but
we
are
below
other
counties
so
places
like
los
angeles,
santa
barbara,
even
the
state.
H
Overall,
so
on
this
chart,
purple
on
the
bottom
is
ventura
county,
the
average
giving
per
person,
and
you
can
see
that
state
of
california's
gold
and,
above
that,
so
we're
not
meeting
other
counties
who
are
more
prolific
in
their
giving
from
the
economy
perspective.
One
of
the
great
points
of
data
here
is
unemployment
rate
that
purple
down
there
gets
to
about
3.8
percent.
This
is
the
lowest
unemployment
rate
we've
seen
in
a
generation,
maybe
much
longer
than
that.
H
That's
great
news
that
most
people,
anybody
really
who
can
get
up
in
the
morning
wants
a
job
can
find
one.
It
may
not
be
the
one
you
want,
but
there
are
jobs
out
there.
The
problem
in
ventura
county,
though,
is
we
are
creating
low-paying
jobs,
not
the
high-paying
manufacturing
financial
services,
those
types
of
jobs
we
are
not
creating
those
on
the
left
side
are
the
goods
producing
jobs.
H
That's
great
they're
entry
level
jobs,
people
can
get
a
start,
but
they
don't
pay
as
well
and
when
you
think
of
the
high
cost
of
living
here
in
ventura
county.
This
is
a
long-term
problem,
and
I
spoke
about
this
probably
the
last
time
I
was
here.
This
is
something
where
we
love
it.
When
amgen
baxter
those
companies
come
and
when
they
cut
back
on
the
number
of
workers,
it
really
hurts
ventura
county.
So
if
you're
a
young
person
you're
trying
to
find
a
job,
you
can
find
one,
but
it
may
not
be
at
the
salary.
H
The
green
line
in
here
is
the
inflation-adjusted
gross
county
product.
So
this
represents
all
of
the
the
economy
here
in
ventura
county
and
it's
pretty
much
flat.
When
we
go
back
to
2000.
The
big
dip
happened
around
2008
2010,
but
then,
when
we
started
to
come
out
of
the
great
recession,
we
stayed
level.
H
Our
economy
has
not
really
grown
over
the
last
six
eight
years,
but
ventura
well,
the
state
of
california,
the
nation
we
keep
hearing
about
this
great
growth
in
the
economy,
but
ventura
county
has
a
challenge
here.
Why
that's
not
happening?
Many
would
say
it's
because
of
what
I
just
said
that
the
jobs
are
not
here:
we're
not
creating
the
higher
paying
jobs.
It's
too
expensive
to
live.
People
complain
about
being
on
the
freeways
too
long.
So
this
is
something
if
we're
in
a
great
economy
and
we're
just
barely
holding
our
heads
above
water.
H
I
know
that
the
city
council
doesn't
really
deal
with
education,
but
I
wanted
to
bring
important
numbers
to
you,
so
the
top
line
there,
I
believe,
is
the
k
through
8
grades
and
the
green
on
the
bottom.
Is
the
high
schools
9
through
12.,
and
what
this
shows
is
the
enrollment
in
the
schools
is
declining
and
projected
so
that
purple
line
is
where
d
marks
where
we
have
projection
going
to
the
right
so
long
term.
We
are
looking
at
a
decline
in
students
in
our
schools
that
ties
back
to
how
I
mentioned
earlier.
H
The
average
age
in
ventura
county
is
getting
older
and
we
don't
all
want
to
get
old
and
not
have
somebody
young
to
come,
take
care
of
us
when
we
need
it.
So
how
does
that
translate?
These
are
the
numbers
for
the
kaneo
valley,
school
district
and
there's
no
way.
I
can
read
that,
but
I
think
you
see
something
like
about
a
4
000
drop,
maybe
it's
greater,
so
the
top
line
was,
I
believe,
four
six
years
ago,
and
then
it's
gone
down
the
last
year.
That
is
significant
to
see
that
kind
of
decline,
canelo
valley.
H
Now
some
may
say:
oh
it's!
The
kids
want
to
go
play
football
at
oak
park
or
do
something
like
that.
But
it's
not
enough
the
the
decline
that
we're
seeing
in
enrollment
means
that
there
can
be
school
closures
coming
challenges,
layoffs
in
schools
around
the
county
in
the
west
part
of
the
county.
We
are
seeing
growth
in
some
of
the
school
districts
like
oxnard
union
high
school
santa
paula,
but
on
this
side
of
the
grade,
simi
valley,
moore
park,
also
declining
so
long-term
consequence.
H
H
Remember
when
that
wasn't
even
the
amount
of
the
mortgage
and
today
to
buy
just
to
rent
an
apartment,
so
the
lower
line,
the
one
that's
dipping
down
in
the
upper
chart,
that's
vacancy
rate,
and
this
is
why
we're
seeing
such
high
rents
is
because
we
have
such
low
vacancy
we're
not
building
enough
apartments.
So
apartment
owners
are
in
the
driver's
seat
and
below
that
is
the
average
rent
in
various
cities.
Thousand
oaks
skews
towards
the
high
end
as
far
as
rent,
and
so
that
also
has
consequences.
H
If
you
get
out
of
school
you're
fortunate
enough
to
get
a
job
here,
maybe
with
the
city,
but
maybe
it
doesn't
pay
well,
when
you
start
off,
so
you
decide
to
live
in
santa
paula,
where
it's
a
lot
cheaper,
now,
you're
on
the
road
every
morning,
you're
away
from
your
family
and
we're
clogging
up
the
freeways.
So
all
of
these
things
are
interconnected.
H
H
As
far
as
ventura
county,
it's
a
wonderful
place
to
live.
I'm
sure
most
of
us
would
love
to
retire
here.
Some
of
the
great
things
we
have
increased
solar
use.
Our
beaches
are
very
clean.
Our
air
is
cleaner.
This
is
average
water
use
in
ventura,
county
and
thousand
oaks
excuse
towards
the
higher
end.
As
far
as
amount
of
water
used
per
person,
other
cities
are
lower,
usually
tends
to
do
with
the
coastal
cities
oxara
port
waiani.
They
are
not
as
hot.
H
So
they
don't
use
as
much
water
for
watering
lawns
things
like
that
public
health,
so
the
state
of
california
now
does
some
studies
of
11th
graders
and
ask
them
how
much
they
use
different
substances.
Marijuana
vaping
things
like
that,
so
we
are
seeing
that
nicotine
use
is
very
low.
That's
great
we're
seeing
our
kids
stay
away
from
that,
but
we
are
seeing
other
things
as
far
as
substance
abuse.
H
H
Okay,
that's
right!
We're
seeing
this
in
some
of
the
other
areas,
alcohol
abuse,
the
number
of
kids
that
are
drinking
we're,
also
seeing
sadness,
chronic
sadness.
A
lot
of
our
kids
are
sad.
That's
measured
and
also
even
suicide.
We're
seeing
over
10
percent
of
students
have
seriously
contemplated
suicide.
H
This
chart
shows
the
opioid
crisis,
so
opioids
are
both
legal
and
illegal
drugs.
Prescriptions
such
and
this
shows
different
counties
in
california
and
ventura
county
is
at
the
highest
one
there.
The
green
85
deaths
in
2017
from
opioids.
So
it
is
a
continuing
public
health
crisis.
Here
in
ventura,
county
public
safety,
ventura
county
is
still
one
of
the
safest
counties
in
the
state.
These
are
the
top
15
counties.
Ventura
county
is
the
second
safest
and
as
far
as
the
individual
cities
thousand
oaks
is
still
good,
but
moore
park,
I
think
always
leads
the
rest.
H
Oxnard
ventura
have
the
highest
crime
rates.
Homelessness
is
growing
you're.
All
aware
of
that,
we
have
homelessness
by
city.
You
can
compare
how
you're
doing
with
some
of
the
other
cities,
but
that
is
going
to
be
a
big
problem
transportation.
We
have
a
lot
of
stats
in
there.
I
won't
I'll
try
to
wrap
this
up,
but
we
still
have
a
lot
of
people
who
are
driving
by
themselves
to
work
not
commuting,
not
carpooling.
That
type
of
thing
so
continues
to
be
a
challenge
and
the
chief
mentioned
wildfire.
H
We
have
data
in
here
about
the
thomas
fire
versus
the
woolsey
fire.
I
think
thomas
fire
was
about
1.4
billion
of
damages
to
ventura.
County
woolsey
was
about
370
million,
but
that's
only
ventura
county.
It
was
huge
in
the
county
of
los
angeles,
so
a
lot
of
great
data.
We
thank
you
very
much
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you
to
the
staff
for
helping
to
arrange
this
and
we're
I'd
like
to
also
mention
that
this
is
available
online.
Anyone
that's
interested.
You
can
visit
the
civic
alliance
website,
it's
civic
alliance.org.
I
B
All
right
one
more
to
go
so
now,
I'm
going
to
invite
rick
schroeder
he's
the
president
of
manny
mansions,
and
this
is
celebrating
40
years
in
the
canejo
valley,
right
here
in
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
and
on
behalf
of
the
entire
city
council.
I'm
going
to
present
you
rick
with
this
commendation
and
then
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
share
a
little
bit,
and
I
just
have
to
tell
you
it
was
great
being
with
you
doing
the
to
talks
and
being
at
the
event
celebrating
this.
So
let's
do
this
boom.
Thank
you.
J
J
But
really
what
distinguishes
many
mansions
is
that
we
also
provide
on-site
life-enriching
services
for
our
residents,
our
resident
children,
our
adults,
our
families.
Our
residents
have
experienced
homelessness.
We
believe
that
everyone
should
have
the
opportunity
for
quality,
housing
and
life
enriching
services.
J
J
The
city
has
always
supported
our
mission
and
our
desire
to
assist
those
in
the
community
most
in
need
and
as
a
community,
we
do
face
enormous
challenges
concerning
housing,
housing,
which
is
high
quality
housing,
which
is
well
maintained,
housing
which
is
safe
and
housing
which
is
affordable.
There
is
simply
a
shortage
of
affordable
housing
in
thousand
oaks.
J
Well,
I
stand
here
to
tell
you
that
we,
as
an
organization,
are
ready
to
serve
the
community
and
its
housing
needs,
as
we
have
done
for
the
past
40
years,
and
we
will
continue
to
work
very
closely
with
the
city
and
its
residents
on
our
shared
housing
goals.
So,
on
behalf
of
many
mansions,
it's
board
of
directors,
it's
it's
many
staff
members
here
today
and
are
more
than
300
residents.
G
J
A
C
C
All
remarks
should
be
addressed
to
the
council
as
a
whole
and
all
documents
for
city
council
and
the
official
record
should
be
presented
to
the
city
clerk
prior
to
speaking.
Speakers
are
requested
to
state
their
name
and
community
of
residents
for
the
record
under
state
law.
Public
comment
matters
may
not
be
considered
by
the
council
unless
listed
on
the
agenda,
but
may
be
referred
to
the
city
manager
for
administrative
follow-up.
C
B
L
Yeah,
shannon
bitzer
and
I
live
in
torzana.
So
first
of
all,
I'd
like
to
introduce
myself,
I
am
shannon
bitzer.
I
am
a
father,
a
veteran
of
the
united
states
marine
corps
and
an
entrepreneur
in
the
los
angeles
region
in
2016
I
started
a
cannabis
delivery
company.
I
did
this
despite
my
personal
disinterest
in
cannabis
usage.
L
L
L
L
I'm
tired
of
giving
my
hard-earned
tax
dollars
to
a
city
that
seems
to
have
little
care
for
small
business
owners
and
the
middle
class
in
the
city
of
thousand
oaks.
The
municipal
code
now
allows
two
dispensaries.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
I
don't
know
if
it's
two
or
three,
why
not
allow
a
delivery
service?
Unlike
a
dispensary,
we
are
out
of
the
view
of
the
public,
the
bcc
regulations
for
delivery,
require
we
be
a
non-storefront
retail
location,
which
means
no
one,
except
for
employees
are
allowed
on
site.
L
We
would
be
out
of
the
public's
view,
yet
the
city
would
reap
the
benefits
of
collecting
taxes
from
us.
It's
a
win-win
for
both
of
us
all.
I'm
asking
is
for
permission
to
rent
a
type
c
commercial
non-storefront
office
space
within
city
limits
of
thousand
oaks.
My
company
can
bring
in
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
for
tax
revenue
into
the
local
community
every
year.
So
why
pass
up
this
opportunity?
L
L
I
share
these
values
with
the
same
as
the
people
of
thousand
oaks.
Please
consider
changing
the
municipal
code
to
allow
for
a
delivery
service
to
be
based
within
city
limits,
you'd
be
helping
a
family,
a
company
of
great
people
and
the
citizens
of
thousand
oaks.
Thank
you
for
listening
to
me
and
have
a
great
evening.
E
I'm
a
little
short
so
I'm
gonna
put
this
down.
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
thank
you
for
having
me
today.
I
am
here
on
behalf
of
the
federal
government.
I
work
for
the
united
states
department
of
commerce,
the
bureau
of
the
census-
and
I
am
your
census
rep
for
the
county
for
this
next
year,
and
my
job
is
pretty
awesome.
You
get
to
tell
me
my
schedule
every
week.
I
am
basically
here
to
be
a
cheerleader
for
the
census
and
to
visit
schools,
hospitals,
government,
official
buildings,
fire
stations,
police
stations,
you
name
it.
E
E
1
805-895-9781,
the
city
manager's
office
also
has
my
email
and
phone
number
again.
If
you
didn't
get
that,
and
I
can
also
be
reached
via
linkedin
so
again
make
my
schedule
fun,
let's
get
together
and
chat
about
the
census.
The
great
thing
about
our
bureau
is
that
we're
blind.
We
do
not
see
race,
gender,
political
affiliation.
Anything
we're
just
here
to
count
everyone,
no
matter
what
so
that's
what
makes
this
job
fun
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
having
me
and
I
hope
to
see
you
guys
soon.
M
M
M
What
I
would
like
to
propose
is
the
city
like
the
city
of
port
wyomi
may
be
authorized
two
or
three,
maybe
five
as
many.
Maybe
a
no
cap
system
delivery
companies
that
are
out
of
the
public
eye
to
set
up
their
office
here
and
operate
quietly.
You
still
get
all
the
tax
revenue
kind
of
like
what
shannon
said
with
none
of
the
visibility,
none
of
the
negative
outlook
that
cannabis
sometimes
draws
there
are
people
like
me.
M
Shannon
tons
of
people
who
are
begging
just
for
a
city
like
port
wynemy's,
doing
to
open
up
a
license
process
for
people
like
us
to
come,
get
license
easily,
set
up
shop,
we're
responsible,
loving
owners
that
would
just
love
to
see
the
city
flourish
and
we
want
to
work
with
the
city.
To
my
understanding,
I
don't
think
a
lot
of
city
members
know
how
the
business
operates.
M
B
M
Something
to
say
just
quick
thanks
to
our
representative
from
the
census
for
coming.
The
city
is
really
happy
to
be
a
participant
through
vccf
in
the
census
process
this
year
and
a
number
of
staff
from
our
organization
are
assisting
with
that
effort.
M
In
regards
to
the
two
gentlemen
that
spoke
on
cannabis,
patrick
heher,
who's
coming
down
the
stairs
right
now
is
our
point
person
I'd
be
happy
to
chat
with
you
in
the
lobby
with
a
little
bit
more
detail
and
and
talk
about
process
and
just
a
reminder
to
the
council
and
to
the
public
based
on
the
bureau
of
cannabis
controls
changes.
Delivery
is
allowed
on
a
statewide
basis.
M
Now,
with
the
two
gentlemen,
we're
speaking
to
tonight,
we're
actually
setting
up
a
commercial
operation
from
which
to
deliver
from
within
the
area,
which
is
essentially
a
dispensary
without
a
walk-in
capability,
so
that
that
action
would
take
some
some
additional
consideration
by
the
council
which
may
occur
in
the
future.
But
patrick
will
speak
to
those
gentlemen
about
that.
B
Thank
you,
mr
powers.
Now
we'll
come
to
the
consent
calendar.
Do
we
have
a
motion
or
anything
the
council
desire
to
pull
council
member
le
pena.
C
B
N
Commitment
to
environmental
leadership
and
developing
a
climate
action
plan
were
among
the
top
10
guiding
principles
arising
out
of
the
city's
visioning
2064
process
that
took
place
in
2014.
In
addition,
council
has
set
the
development
of
this
strategic
plan,
as
well
as
one
of
its
top
ten
priorities
for
this
fiscal
year.
N
The
sustainability
strategic
plan
provides
a
comprehensive
road
map
that
addresses
resource
use,
waste
and
emissions
for
municipal
operations
and
for
the
city.
The
plan
for
municipal
operations,
which
council
adopted
last
year,
provides
the
foundation
for
this
by
addressing
resource
use
from
city
operations
and
facilities.
N
N
N
N
N
B
Thank
you,
dr
cox,
mayor
pro
tem,
adam.
K
Thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you,
dr
cox,
for
the
report.
You
know
as
long
as
I've
been
here,
the
city
of
thousands
has
been
a
very
environmentally
conscious
city.
We've
stopped
sprawling.
We
don't
do
that
anymore.
We're
looking
inward
to
build,
so
we
can
work
and
live
in
the
same
spot.
Stay
off
the
freeways
keep
the
greenhouse
gases
down.
We
have
hill
canyon
treatment,
plant,
100,
sustainable
biomass
and
solar,
strict
oak
tree
ordinance,
15,
000,
acres
of
open
space.
I
mean
the
list
goes
on
and
on
our
fleets,
cng,
electric
and
hydrogen.
K
You
know
we're
really
conscious
about
being
in
good
environmental
stewards.
We
we're
launching
an
energy
campaign
to
save
15
percent
city
usage,
we're
even
drilling
for
ground
water,
so
we
can
get
off
the
imported
water
business
as
much
as
possible.
There's
another
direction.
I'd
like
to
see
us
go
I'd
like
to
suggest,
and
an
attitude
probably
would
be
added
to
the
waste
component
portion
of
the
climate
action
plan,
and
that
would
be
to
look
at
phasing
out
these
single-use
plastics
that
we've
been
hearing
so
much
about
particularly
polystyrene
and
styrofoam.
K
K
So
we
have
a
real
problem
with
that:
we're
producing
millions
of
tons
of
this
stuff
and
we're
recycling
a
very
small
percentage
of
it
and-
and
you
know
where
it
ends
up,
it's
ending
up
in
our
in
our
oceans,
there's
estimated.
I
look
this
up.
There's
five
trillion
pieces
of
plastic
in
the
ocean
right
now
and
little
tiny
bits.
O
K
All
heard
about
the
pacific
geyer,
the
garbage
been
out
there
in
the
middle
of
the
pacific,
that's
where
it's
all
ending
up,
so
I
these
m
and
these
microplastics
they
end
up
in
our
water
and
our
you
know
the
fish
that
we
eat.
It's
estimated
I
wrote
this
down.
We
about
18
billion
pounds
of
plastic
each
year,
end
up
in
the
ocean,
18
billion
pounds,
and
now
that
we've
cut
down
and
recycling
we're
pushing
more
and
more
into
the
landfills.
K
And
it's
not
it's
not
degrading.
It's
just
sitting
there.
Some
people
estimate
for
hundreds,
if
not
thousands,
even
a
million
years.
You
know
the
pyramids
are
only
5
000
years
old
and
we're
leaving
a
legacy
that
could
be
around.
For
you
know.
K
Who
knows
how
long
I
mean
they've
detected
this
stuff
in
the
santa
barbara
channel
they've
detect
get
this
they've
detected
it
in
the
marianas
trench,
which
is
seven
miles
down
in
the
pacific
ocean
they've
detected
it
in
lake
tahoe,
which
is
supposed
to
be
a
pristine,
clear
lake,
little
little
molecules
of
plastic
floating
around
in
lake
tahoe.
So
what
I'm
getting
at?
I
want
to
include
this
in
our
climate
action
plan
to
try
to
phase
these
types
of
products
out
over
time.
K
We
don't
have
to
do
anything
you
know
immediately,
but
I
think
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I
know
the
state
of
california
has
so
far
stalled
on
a
bill
to
get
this
done.
They're
going
to
look
at
it
again
in
in
february,
but
there's
cities
like
solana,
beach,
there's
cities
like
burbank,
there's
states
like
maine
and
maryland
that
have
that
have
proceeded
on
on
this
path
and
I
think
thousand
oaks
should
follow.
Here's
here's
one
of
the
worst
culprits
right
here,
you've
all
seen
the
the
clamshell
box
that
you
get
right.
K
This
will
be
around
for
a
long
time,
long
time
it
just
breaks
into
little
tiny
pieces
and
blows
out
of
the
atmosphere
and
and
ends
up
where
it
shouldn't,
and
it's
not
like
it's
not
like
they're
on
alternatives.
Now
here's
a
here's,
a
a
compostable
box,
simple
you
put
in
the
landfill
and
it's
gone
in
a
couple
of
months.
K
You
here's
here's,
a
look
at
the
stuff.
I
have
here's.
A
here's.
A
fork
looks
like
it's
plastic
right:
oh
no,
it's
cornstarch
a
cornstarch
fork.
It's
nice
and
solid
works
good,
but
it'll
it'll
compost,
you
could
you
may
be
able
to
eat
it
councilmember
jones,
I
wouldn't
advise
it,
but
you
know
the
wooden
straw.
The
wooden
sticks
instead
of
the
plastic.
You've
all
heard
about
the
straws
right,
but
the
one
I'm
particularly
concerned
about
is
this
polystyrene.
This
styrofoam
that
stuff
just
won't
go
away.
K
Just
won't
go
away.
So
if
the
moral
of
the
story,
if
we
can
reduce
the
stuff
at
the
source,
we
can
then
and
the
front
end,
then
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
the
waste
on
the
back
end.
So
we
got
to
work
on
that
side
of
it.
We'll
save
millions
of
dollars,
because
right
now
we're
paying
to
recycle
our
waste,
we're
paying
it's
costing
us.
We
used
to
be
able
to
sell
it.
They
don't
want
it
anymore.
K
D
I
just
had
a
small
question
all
right
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
the
recyclables
and
the
the
people
who
are
using
that
as
sort
of
a
cottage
industry
and
bringing
it
to
locations
within
the
city.
Apparently,
we've
lost
the
locations
where
people
can
actually
bring
recyclables
and
get
their
cash.
N
So
yeah
the
the
city
lost
its
what
the
business
replanet,
which
was
licensed
here
to
redeem
the
california
redemption
value,
the
crv
containers
and
give
the
cash
back
that
business
went
to
close
down
its
doors
a
couple
of
months
ago,
and
so
currently
there
are
other
state
license
entities
that
will
do
that
they're
not
located
within
the
city.
There
are
simi
valley
camarillo,
but
within
the
city
right
now
there
are
just
a
number
of
supermarkets
that
are
authorized
and,
in
fact,
required
by
the
state
to
accept
those
materials.
N
So
on
our
website
we
have
a
list.
I
think,
there's
about
a
dozen
supermarkets
within
the
city
where
people
can
take
their
crv
items
and
get
redemption.
It
doesn't
matter
whether
you
bought
the
item
there
or
wherever
you
bought.
It
you're
allowed
to
redeem
it
at
any
of
those
those
places.
So
that's
what's
happening
now
and,
as
I
said,
we
we
have
that
list
published.
N
In
addition,
the
state
will
be
the
the
program
is
managed
by
the
state
by
cal
recycle
and
they
will
be
requiring
new
centers
to
be
set
up
that
serve
the
areas
that
were
previously
served
by
replanet,
but
unfortunately,
that
process
takes
some
time.
Those
entities
have
to
be
notified.
N
They
have
a
chance
to
decide
to
do
their
own
recycling
or
they
can
contribute
and
bring
in
a
new
center.
So
in
all
that
process
is
probably
going
to
take
six
to
nine
months
before
those
centers
are
replaced
with
new
ones,
but
in
the
meantime
people
can
either
go
to
centers
outside
the
city
or
use
the
that
are
listed.
N
So
the
city
still
has
a
site
up
by
the
1000x
library
complex
in
that
parking
lot,
where
they
take
the
the
tree,
the
chip,
chipped
mulch
and
where
residents
can
go
to
that
and
load
up
their
own
vehicles
for
free
and
have
access
to
that
free,
mulch
material.
I
I
Their
habitat
and
california
is
also
the
second
largest
produce,
second
largest
producer
of
honey
in
the
country.
So
with
that
in
mind,
I
was
hoping
we
could
look
at
our
ordinance
and
see
whether
beekeeping
would
be
allowed
in
on
properties
that
are
not
necessarily
only
three
acres
but
smaller
properties
in
the
rapd
zones,
for
example,.
P
Did
a
survey
conduct
a
survey
of
other
southern
california
cities,
as
this
topic
has
come
up
from
time
to
time
and
looked
at
at
10
other
cities
and
all
of
them
had
some
type
of
sort
of
comparable
restrictions,
minimum
lot,
size
setback
requirements,
etc,
and
often
a
zoning
designation,
based
approach
in
thinking
about
it.
I
would
suggest
that
we
debate
this
talk
about
this
and
and
include
it
in
our
general
plan,
update,
because
one
of
the
chapters
in
our
general
plan
is
the
conservation
element
which
includes
wildlife,
resources
and
plant
habitats.
P
That
would
be
the
appropriate
place
to
to
include
such
such
a
discussion,
but
it's
clear
that
many
other
cities
are
allowing
beehives,
but
always
subject
to
some
type
of
of
reasonable
restrictions.
I
Now,
certainly
it's
would
be
wonderful
to
have
it
as
part
of
our
general
plan
discussion,
I'm
just
thinking
the
general
plan
itself
will
take
probably
about
two
and
a
half
years
and
I'm
not
sure,
with
bees
dying
off
and
bees
being
necessary
and
climate
change
only
getting
worse,
not
better.
If
you
listened
to
the
united
nations
presentations
recently,
so
is
there
any
way
that
perhaps
we
could
get
a
head
start
on
on
that
discussion?.
P
Absolutely
so
that's
the
sort
of
the
the
most
broad
basis
for
that
discussion,
but
if
it
is
the
council's
pleasure
staff
can
bring
back
an
analysis
of
the
topic
and
another
avenue
is
a
municipal
code
amendment
that
is
more
focused.
That
looks
specifically
at
that
that
topic,
apart
from
the
general
plan,
update
through
a
municipal
code
amendment,
so
that's
another
option,
but
if
it's
the
council
pleas,
if
it
is
the
council's
pleasure,
we
can
certainly
bring
back
additional
information
on
the
topic.
M
So
if
I
might
just
chime
in
really
quickly
here
so
we've
had
two
sort
of
items
relating
to
sustainability,
one
that's
more
land
use
oriented
and
one
that's
more
dovetails
into
the
waste
hauler
piece.
So
we
have
a
current
track,
that's
in
place
and
dr
cox
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
a
current
track
that
we
are
moving
towards
in
regards
to
our
waste
hauler
agreement
and
the
the
piece
brought
forward
by
mayor
pro
tim
adam
has
a
nexus
sort
of
tied
into
that.
So
I
anticipate
that
we
have
a
pathway
already
to
do
that.
M
So
if
it's
the
council's
pleasure
on
that
item,
that
would
be
the
path
on
that
piece.
The
second
would
be
on
the
bees.
I
would
ask
that
we
just
you,
give
staff
an
opportunity.
We
got
a
lot
of
balls
in
the
air
right
now,
as
it
relates
to
general
plan
and
campus
master
plan
and
other
things
to
come
up
with
a
time
frame.
F
M
So
we
we
have
some
background
knowledge
on
it,
as
he
mentioned.
Almost
every
city
has
some
regulations
around
that
and
just
to
remind
the
council,
there
are
reasons
for
those
regulations,
including
people
with
allergies,
to
bees
and
other
things
like
that
and
ensuring
that
there's
some
restrictions
put
in
place.
So
we
could
certainly
research
that
and
bring
it
back
to
the
council,
but
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
sense
of
the
tracks
for
those
various
things.
If
it's
the
council's
pleasure.
I
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
councilmember
jones,
yeah,.
F
Just
quickly
I'd
like
to
say,
dr
cox,
I
really
like
your
opening
statement
about
the
strategic
plan
that
it's
environmentally
friendly,
fiscally
responsible
and
sustainability
minded.
I
love
that
claim
for
our
city
operations,
just
a
quick
question
about
these
different
colored
boxes.
F
The
orange,
of
course,
are
in
the
process.
The
blues
have
yet
to
be
started.
Do
you
have
any
handle
on
completion
of
all
of
this,
or
is
that
too
nebulous
right
now.
N
F
N
So
most
of
the
orange
ones
should
be
completed
in
the
next
six
months.
I.
F
N
The
exception
is
probably
the
community
energy
plan,
which
is
probably
more
like
nine
months
or
so,
but
most
of
them
should
be
done,
at
least
by
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year,
if
not
before,
and
then
the
ones
in
blue
there.
The
that
feed
directly
into
that
climate
action
plan,
will
be
developed
in
concert
with
that
plan
over
the
next
18
months.
P
F
B
B
So
I'm
not
sure
that
they're
doing
proper
justice
with
whatever
we've
sent
them,
and
I
think
if
we
address
the
problem
here,
I
think
those
are
really
good
examples,
though
I
seem
to
have
made
light
of
your
show
and
tell
I
found
it
very
impressive,
mayor
pro
tem.
So
thank
you,
dr
cox,
great
presentation.
I
B
I
Then,
and
so
bees,
plastics
and
recycling,
okay.
B
Q
While
we
get
some
research
and
analysis
completed
now,
there's
been
a
big
public
interest
in
for
purported
health
benefits
of
cbd
from
industrial
hemp,
it
stirred
a
whole
new
market
segment
for
supplements
and
lotions
and
possible
food
products,
but
the
the
commercial
effort
to
cultivate
and
harvest
and
manufacture.
Hemp
from
such
products
has
tremendously
tremendously
outpaced
both
federal
and
state
regulations
and,
frankly,
the
city
does
not
have
any
specific
regulations
regarding
hemp
as
well.
Q
So,
to
give
you
some
background
again,
I
know
we
discussed
it
briefly
at
the
last
city
council
meeting,
but
hemp
and
cannabis
plants
are
nearly
identical
hemp.
I
think
the
biggest
concern
we
have
with
hemp
or
the
change
that
you
would
note
is
that
hemp
has
less
than
0.3
or
0.3
percent
of
thc
or
less
thc
is
a
psychoactive
component
normally
associated
with
cannabis.
Q
I
would
like
you
to
note
the
photo
and
to
the
right
in
the
screen.
This
is
a
hemp
field
in
ventura
county.
You
will
note
that
they
write
industrial
hemp,
no
thc,
no
trespassing,
of
course,
and
I
think
they
do
that,
and
I
I
didn't
talk
to
the
owner
of
this
field,
but
I
I'm
sure
it's
to
to
distinguish
it
from
cannabis,
because
a
cannabis
has
a
thc
component.
Cannabis
has
a
much
greater
value,
and
industrial
hemp
is
certainly
the
hot
button
item
right
now.
Q
So,
notwithstanding
the
fact
that
regulations
are
still
being
formulated,
excuse
me
for
a
second
that
they're
still
being
formulated
in
both
federal
and
state
law.
There
have
been
some
significant
changes
in
federal
law
that
merit
your
attention.
The
first
is
the
federal
agricultural
improvement
act
of
2018
or
the
2018
farm
bill,
and
what
this
did
is
this
removed
hemp
from
under
the
cannabis
umbrella
under
the
cannabis
regulation
and
that's
significant
because
it
placed
it
outside
of
cannabis
and
into
the
agricultural
commodity.
Q
And
now
it's
going
to
be
under
the
auspices
of
the
federal
department
of
agriculture
and
importantly,
it
can
be.
It
can
be
legally
transported
across
state
lines.
Cannabis
cannot
do
that.
Cannabis
is
still
a
schedule.
One
drug
under
federal
law,
significantly
additional
processes
for
the
federal
government
under
the
state
farm
bill
or
excuse
me,
the
2018
farm
bill
for
regulating
the
cultivation
of
hemp
for
regulating
the
processes
of
how
their
how
it's
got
to
be
regulated
by
the
federal
government
is
still
being
analyzed
in
the
federal
level.
Q
Q
Q
So
now
withstanding
the
the
need
for
more
regulations
from
both
the
federal
state
and
even
possibly
the
local
level.
The
cultivation
of
hemp,
including
cultivation
in
ventura
county,
is
exploding
as
a
new
crop.
Reportedly,
the
number
of
permits
requested
to
grow.
Hemp
in
the
county
is
surpassing
several
standard,
several
standard
crops,
and
we
know
of
at
least
from
our
information.
Thousands
of
acres
are
being
used
now
to
start
growing
hemp
and,
of
course,
we
see
another
photo
from
a
different
location
of
another
hemp
field.
Q
So
I
want
to
briefly
again
discuss
differences
between
cannabis
and
hemp
or
similarities.
Frankly-
and
I
do
this
because
I
want
to
remind
you
that
when
we
were
getting
ready
for
the
cannabis
we
knew
cannabis
was
going
to
be
coming
to
california
as
a
as
a
state
issue
to
allow
it
to
be
in
california,
and
we
spent
months
we
actually
spent
years
preparing
and
investigating
and
analyzing
and
presenting
to
you
having
workshops
on
cannabis,
and
why
did
we
do
that?
Q
Because
we
knew
we
needed
to
get
regulations
in
place
and
we
knew
that
we
had
concerns
about
odor
transportation,
impacts,
storage,
legality,
processing,
safety
issues,
a
myriad
of
issues
that
we
had
with
cannabis,
and
I
bring
that
up
because
with
hemp
we
have
some
of
these
similar
significant
concerns.
We
have
concerns
about
odor.
We
have
concerns
about
transportation
impacts.
Q
How
are
they
going
to
affect
neighborhoods
business
impacts?
What's
the
processing
process
for
this
unique
material?
Are
there
safety
concerns?
Are
there
security
concerns?
You
noted
that
that
one
slide
that
had
the
photo
of
the
sign
says
no
thc,
one
of
the
reasons
they're
doing.
That
is
because
they
don't
want
people
jumping
over
and
grabbing
that
if
it
was
cannabis,
grabbing
the
cannabis
right
and
also
when
we
had
the
cannabis
regulations.
Q
Initially,
we
understood
that
through
amma,
which
was
again
the
adult
use
act
it
it
allowed
people
to
grow
their
own
plants
in
their
backyards
and
in
their
own
dwelling,
but
we
also
were
able
to
regulate
for
odor.
We
were
able
to
regulate
for
security,
it
had
to
be
enclosed.
It
couldn't
be
seen
from
the
public
right
away.
We're
not
sure
if
we're
going
to
have
those
same
concerns
with
him,
because
again,
it's
very
similar.
Q
I
might
also
mention
that
we
are
starting
to
see
a
number
of
requests
for
industrial
hemp,
related
businesses
or
operations
within
our
jurisdiction.
Q
The
challenge
is
that
cbd,
oil
from
hemp,
for
example,
is
very
similar
to
cbd
oil
from
cannabis.
Of
course,
the
cannabis
would
have
the
thc
component
to
it,
but
it
makes
distinguishing
between
the
two
cbd
oil
from
hemp,
cbd,
oil
from
cannabis
very,
very
challenging
right
and
the
reason
why
that's
a
concern
for
us
is
because,
under
our
cannabis
ordinance
we
regulate
what
we
have
right
now.
Q
As
you
know,
from
two
weeks
ago,
we
are
moving
forward
with
operations,
agreement
for
two
medical
marijuana
or
cannabis
facilities
in
our
city,
and
we
talked
about,
of
course,
the
challenge
with
the
state
allowing
deliveries
in
our
city.
So
we
have
those
concerns
with
cannabis
and
similarly,
we're
going
to
have
concerns
that
there
might
be
in
scrupulous
businesses
that
start
selling
cbd
oil
from
hemp
and
then
turn
around
and
sell
cbd
oil
from
cannabis
and
again
we're
not
capturing
that
use.
Q
So
the
authority
for
the
moratorium
government
code,
section
65858,
authorizes
the
city
council
to
adopt
a
moratorium
on
any
uses
that
may
be
in
conflict
with
a
contemplated
general
plan,
specific
plan,
zoning
proposal.
It
does
require
a
four-fifths
super-majority
vote,
at
least
for
a
motion
to
adopt
such
an
urgency
ordinance.
Q
The
initial
ordinance
may
only
be
in
effect
for
45
days,
but
the
city
council
may
extend
extend
the
time
twice
once
for
10
months
and
15
days
and
the
second
time,
if
it's
desires
for
a
year
for
a
total
of
two
years
prior
to
extending
it
from
the
45
day
moratorium.
The
city
council
will
have
to
hold
a
public
notice
notice
public
hearing
and
we
will
have
the
discussion.
Q
So
we
do
have
a
purpose
for
the
moratorium
and
again
it
goes
back
to
the
theme
of
let's
slow
this
down
for
a
minute.
Let's
take
a
hold
and
look
at
this
issue.
Do
we
need
local
regulations?
What
are
the
state
regulations
going
to
look
like?
Are
they
being
formulated
to
the
extent
we
think
are
appropriate?
Q
What
are
the
federal
government
regulations
looking
like
that's
in
the
process?
That's
underway,
but
they're
not
solidified
through
the
whole
process.
Yet
we
are
concerned
relating
to
cultivation,
processing,
drying,
storing
the
manufacturing
of
industrial
hemp,
as
well
as
the
non-incidental
cells
of
cbd,
product
from
hemp.
Q
So
we
also
note,
as
I
as
I
noted
here,
the
findings
more
state
and
federal
regulations
are
needed.
We
need
some
time
to
look
at
possible
negative
impacts,
best
practices,
whether
or
not
there's
going
to
be
potency
testing
from
the
state,
the
ability
of
the
state
to
hire
enough
employees
to
properly
certified
the
various
aspects
of
industrial
hemp
product
and
again
we
need
the
time
to
study
and
analyze
possible
regulations
and
other
safeguards
to
protect
the
health,
safety
and
welfare
of
our
residents.
Q
And
again,
without
completed
regulations
for
hemp,
the
city
should
just
take
a
initial
precautionary
step
to
delay
approval
of
any
new
permits.
We
have
permitted
a
few,
so
it
can
conduct
more
research
into
this
issue.
And
again
we
understand
hemp
is
a
booming
business.
We
don't
take
this
measure
lightly.
Q
We're
happy
to
look
and
work
with
stakeholders
in
the
in
the
industry
to
talk
to
them
about
best
practices,
talk
to
them
about
possible
regulations
if
necessary
and
and
have
that
communication
and
have
that
opportunity
to
work
with
them.
But
for
now
again.
For
this
moment
the
recommendation
is
to
adopt
an
urgency
ordinance
again,
just
mentioning
that
we
did
take
a
number
of
steps
to
analyze
cannabis.
Q
We're
asking
that
we
slow
it
down
for
industrial
hemp
to
look
at
the
need
to
control
and
regulate
cultivation,
storing
in
this
various
other
commercial
activities,
as
well
as
cbd,
retail
stores
in
our
city,
all
right.
So
with
that
said,
the
recommendation
is
to
adopt
the
urgency
ordinance
by
four-fifths
vote
based
on
the
findings
set
forth
in
the
staff
report
and
the
proposed
ordinance
in
this
hearing
and
to
return
to
city
council
within
45
days.
To
consider
any
need
to
extend
the
moratorium
and
to
my
left,
I
have
mark
town
for
the
public.
Q
D
Engler.
Thank
you
mayor.
Just
a
quick
question.
Hemp
now
has
been
downgraded
to
a
class
five,
a
substance.
That's
more
of
an
agricultural
product.
Do
the
restrictions
that
apply
to
cannabis
also
apply
in
terms
of
how
they
do
their
banking?
Is
it
more
now
just
a
regular
business,
or
is
it
still
a
controlled
problem
with
a
as
a
cash
business.
Q
I
think
from
looking
at
the
state
farm
bill,
I
think
the
answer's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
considered
agricultural
product
and
not
be
subject
to
the
same
concerns.
I'd
have
to
look
at
it
a
little
bit
more
thoroughly
to
confirm
that,
but
my
my
suspicion
from
looking
at
the
federal
state,
the
federal
2018
farm
bill
would
be
to
actually
consider
it
a
a
new
agricultural
product,
and
since
it's
going
to
be
in
that
realm,
it
won't
be
under
the
schedule
1
drug
of
cannabis.
D
There's
another
quick
question:
the
assuming
we
do
a
moratorium
is:
will
the
product
still
be
available
in
town
for
people
who
who
need
it.
Q
I
should
have
mentioned
that
the
moratorium
that
I'm
requesting
you
adopt
it
does
exempt
non-incidental,
I'm
sorry
exempt
incidental
cbd
sales,
which
would
be
five
percent
or
less.
We
know
a
number
of
stores
already
that
have
hemp
related
products.
It's
kind
of
it's
not
their
primary
purpose
of
their
location,
for
example,
a
grocery
store
or
a
pet
food
store.
Q
For
example,
they
have
some
products
that
we
are
aware
of,
and
also
we
do
have
three
cbd
retail
stores
from
hemp,
and
we
have
one
permitted
store,
that's
going,
or
it
should
say
a
facility,
that's
going
to
be
doing
some
research
and
possibly
developing
makeup
and
cosmetics,
or
the
cosmetics
for
with
with
might
have
a
little
bit
of
hemp
in
it
as
well.
B
M
Good
evening,
thank
you,
mr
member,
mr
mayor
fellow
council
members.
Just
briefly,
I
just
want
to
state
before
voting.
Truly
ask
yourselves.
Is
a
moratorium
needed
right
now?
Is
this
truly
going
to
help
the
city
I
would
propose.
We
go
a
different
route
with
regulating
this
crop.
As
noted
it
is
an
agricultural
commodity.
M
I
say
let's
work
with
the
industry
and
as
it
develops,
let's
prepare
regulations
accordingly
kind
of
take
a
different
route
than
you
did
with
cannabis.
Let
this
grow
see
how
it
develops,
and
I
also
want
to
mention
that
the
activities
contemplated
are
regulated
currently
under
different
ordinances,
so
manufacturing,
for
example,
you
have
building
codes.
You
have
fire
codes,
things
of
that
nature
that
can
be
used
to
address
the
the
problems
noted
and
finally,
of
note.
During
the
initial
presentation,
the
gentleman
mentioned
the
economic
state
of
the
city.
We
need
new
jobs.
M
This
is
an
incredible
plant.
It
really
has
potential
to
change
a
lot
of
industries
council
member
adam
those
bioplastics.
You
mentioned
those
can
be
created
right
here
in
the
city,
but
if
we
initiate
this
moratorium,
all
that's
going
to
stop.
So
I
would
just
highly
suggest:
take
a
look:
is
this
truly
needed?
Will
it
help
and
benefit
the
city,
or
should
we
allow
this
type
activity
to
go
forward?
It
is
no
longer
controlled
substance.
Well,
it
does
look
like
cannabis.
It's
an
agricultural
commodity,
it's
more
akin
to
strawberries
than
it
is
to
cannabis.
R
Good
evening,
mayor
another
summer
in
oklahoma
hat-
and
I
remember
sean-
I
sang
when
I
was
a
student
at
oklahoma-
we
don't
smoke
marijuana
in
mercedes
and
guess
what
they
did
and
I
have
a
sweet,
steep
hat,
because
I've
seen
b-52
bombers
during
the
vietnam
and
I
was
exposed
to
asian
orange
and
one
of
my
favorite
shows
on
tv
is
saturday
night
game
day
special.
They
did
about
helmet
stickers
to
the
outstanding
players
of
the
day.
R
I
give
a
helmet
stature
to
chief
tim
hale
because
he
said
I'm
not
going
to
act
like
the
morons
in
ohio
and
the
district
attorney
totten
and
arrest
people
for
having
partners
and
that
he's
very
smart.
He
said
it's
all
about
money,
like
rubber
mills
said
he
was
hot
naked,
as
chairman
of
the
house
reigns
and
means
committee
with
the
tile
base
and
bombshell
and
the
next
morning
I
give
a
press
conference
and
this
may
sound
a
little
bit
crazy.
R
It
was
on
tv
chairman
of
the
ways
and
means
committee
who
said
I'm
gonna
have
a
short
press
conference.
I'm
not
gonna.
Take
any
questions.
I
want
you
to
say
a
little
bit
money.
Thoughts
and
watched
the
man
who
gave
a
speech
on
behalf
of
the
city
is
totally
wet.
He
knows
nothing
about
pot
or
hemp.
I
smoked
a
lot
of
part
of
oklahoma.
I
haven't
smoked
it
in
20
years.
I
don't
want
a
store.
I
don't
want
a
hemp
extraction
factory.
R
R
Bees
are
a
major
problem
thanks
to
men,
monsanto
and
all
their
tavahos,
and
today
I
would
give
the
fourth
helmet
sticker
to
the
new
board
of
supervisors.
Man
from
simi
valley,
bob
yuber.
He
voted
with
two
democrats
and
independent
to
not
have
any
more
oil
dwelling
in
the
arsenal
community.
I
don't
think
we'd
see
the
mayor
change
his
stripes
from
his
positions
on
many
issues.
It's
a
courage
for
bob
uber
to
say
no
julie
and
I
started.
I
have
no
doubt
in
that
hunt,
but
we
should
not
be
having
oil
dwelling
near
all.
R
R
B
R
E
How
are
you
my
name
is
eric
johnson.
I
live
in
newberry
park,
I'm
a
rotarian
in
west
lake
village,
I
own
with
my
son,
the
first
legal
industrial
hemp
company
in
westlake
village.
So
I'm
here
to
speak,
you
know
for
industrial
hemp
and
then
I
can
answer
the
councilman's
member.
We
use
chase
bank,
you
know
with
the
banking
okay.
As
far
as
that
goes,
you
know
that
is
a
legal
company.
E
So
I'm
just
here
to
speak,
because
I
was
concerned
that
some
of
the
stores
in
thousand
oaks
might
be
shut
down
and
as
far
as
I
know
like
with
the
chamber
on
thursday,
there's
a
ribbon-cutting
ceremony
for
the
cbd
store.
E
So
my
only
concern
was
that
you
know
some
of
these
stores
might
be
closed
and
some
of
my
sales
would
be
affected.
Majority
of
my
sales
are
to
pets
and
people,
and
we
do
sell
in
thousand
oaks
west
lake,
agora
and
the
valley.
So
that's
I
that's
about
it.
Just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
this
is
done
right.
It's
done
properly
and
you
know,
as
I'm
saying
we
already
own
a
company
in
westlake
village,
all
right
guys.
B
Did
you
want
to
okay?
Our
next
speaker
will
be
mr
ed
williams,
followed
by
mr
joe
kyle.
O
O
O
I
don't
get
involved
in
any
of
the
processing
or
sales
or
any
of
those
items,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
there
is
an
extensive
regulatory
scheme
that
has
been
put
into
place
in
the
state
of
california
in
cooperation
with
the
usda,
who
is
developing
federal
regulations.
As
has
been
stated,
we
currently
register
any
producer
any
grower
who
plans
to
produce
either
seed
for
reproduction
of
hemp
or
a
crop
for
any
purpose.
O
Here
in
ventura
county,
we
have
approximately
40
registrants
that
have
signed
up
with
my
office.
We
have
over
four
thousand
acres
that
has
been
registered
for
production
of
industrial
hemp.
Approximately
twenty
five
hundred
to
three
thousand
of
those
acres
have
been
planted.
We
have
been.
The
state
has
also
put
into
place
requirements
for
seed
cultivars
that
have
been
tested
to
make
sure
that
they
are
below
the
0.3
percent
thc
level
that's
been
required.
O
We
also
have
a
sampling
and
testing
procedure
to
where
we
actually
observe
or
or
are
involved
in
the
testing
of
the
industrial
hemp
at
accredited
laboratories.
O
We
have
two
of
those
laboratories
here
in
the
county
that
test
the
thc
content
level
to
make
sure
that
that
level
is
below
the
point
three
percent
required
by
federal
law
and
state
law.
O
To
date,
we've
had
five
samples
that
have
been
collected
and
tested
and
all
five
of
those
samples
have
come
in
well
below
the
the
thc
level.
All
of
the
signs
that
that
you
saw
in
the
in
the
video
presentation
that
those
those
fields
are
indeed
t8
or
industrial
hemp
and
not
cannabis.
O
O
B
I
O
My
staff,
I
have
a
staff
of
62
employees,
including
myself,
and
12
of
them,
are
involved
in
part
of
their
time,
is
involved
in
regulating
hemp
most
of
their
time.
That
group
is
involved
in
regulating
pesticides,
but
they
also
do
camp
as
part
of
that
their
responsibility.
I
Okay,
and
are
they
able
to
respond
to
each
and
every
case
and
do
inspections
everywhere
if.
O
D
Thank
you,
mr
williams.
Thank
you
for
coming.
It's
very
helpful.
The
question
I
have
for
you.
You
only
are
interested
in
the
growing
part
of
it.
Or
do
you
have
some
interest?
Also
in
the
processing?
Do
you
do
you
have
any
regulations
that
also
apply
there.
O
O
I
do
have
a
strong
interest
in
making
sure
that
the
processing
is
done
properly,
because
that
will
benefit
the
agricultural
industry
in
this
county,
and
this
is
a
major,
a
major
opportunity
for
our
growers
in
ventura
county
to
to
have
a
new
crop
that
has
some
really
good
remediation
qualities.
It's
frugal
on
water
there's
a
lot
of
good
qualities
to
this
to
this
crop.
The
odor
I
will
I
will
give
you
is-
is
a
definite
concern.
M
Good
evening,
I'm
mayor
mccoy
mayor
pro
tem,
adam
city,
council,
members
and
city
staff,
after
the
long
three
road,
almost
now
three
road,
sorry
after
a
long
road
of
almost
three
years
now
of
discussing
cannabis,
not
hemp,
I
feel
like
we
are
starting
the
whole
process
all
over
again.
M
M
M
M
The
odor
within
the
actual
field
is
a
lot
more
of
the
potential
to
drift
versus
once
that's
packed,
frozen.
There's
many
different
ways
of
processing
that
and
the
most
common
right
now
is
flash
flash
freezing
in
the
field
which
then
bringing
it
into
the
actual
facility,
there's
no
smell
in
any
way
and
then
actually
manufacturing
it.
As
long
as
you
have
and
keep
up
on
those
carbon
filtration
systems,
there's
going
to
be
no
negative
effect
to
the
to
the
neighborhood
around
it,
they
will
have
no
impact
in
any
way
shape
or
form.
M
M
S
Sorry,
just
a
few
things,
a
couple
of
reasons
why
staff
brought
the
moratorium
again,
I
want
to
make
it
really.
I
want
to
impress
upon
the
public
and
the
city.
Council
city
does
support
businesses
and
thousand
oaks.
You
know
we
just
amended
our
code
recently
to
make
it
easier
for
biotech
companies
to
come
into
the
city.
S
So
the
decision,
however,
to
bring
more
time
to
the
city
for
consideration,
is
definitely
not
one
that
staff
takes
lightly.
I
think
in
the
seven
and
a
half
years
that
I've
been
here,
I
think
that
the
city's
only
considered
one
moratorium,
and
that
was
on
our
oak
tree
regulations
when
we
were
trying
to
strengthen
those.
So
this
is
not
something
that
staff
does
without
careful
consideration
when
we
first.
S
S
S
So
the
article
does
mention,
however,
that
thousand
oaks
is
one
of
the
places
that
hemp
growers
are
looking
at.
We
don't
have
any
regulations
on
that
with
respect
to.
I
think
it
was
mr
kyle,
when
you
were
talking
about
the
carbon,
was
it
called
the
carbon
filter?
What
was
it
called?
Kyle
filtration.
B
S
Those
are
the
types
of
things
that
staff
wants
to
have
just
a
period
of
time
to
evaluate
the
one
thing
that
I
really
want
to
emphasize
is
that
staff
actually
desires
to
sit
down
with
people
such
as
mr
johnson
and
mr
williams
and
other
stakeholders.
We
do
need
to
get
some
better
insight
into
the
industry
because
we
just
don't
know.
We
do
know
that
it
looks
like
marijuana.
We
do
know
that
it
smells
like
marijuana.
S
So
do
we
need
to
do
anything
like
have
standards
that
impose
those
carbon
filtration
systems
on
any
type
of
manufacturing
or
processing
plant
in
the
city?
That's
one
of
the
things
we
want
to
look
at
with
since
there's
no
other
processing
facility
in
the
county.
We
have
concerns
with
800
to
4,
100
acres
of
crops
being
cultivated
and
driven
up
the
canao
grade
on
massive
trucks
to
one
facility
in
the
county
that
will
have
a
huge
traffic
impact
and
a
huge
impact
on
our
roads
in
the
city.
S
S
M
To
add,
I
think
you
summarize
most
everything
just
one
additional
point
want
to
make
sure
the
council's
aware
of
we
do
have
a
consultant
team
that
has
supported
us
throughout
the
process
with
through
hdl.
They
have
experience
on
both
cannabis
and
and
hemp
related
issues
across
the
state,
and
we
have
consulted
with
that
team
after
the
the
previous
meeting
and
they
brought
forward
legitimate
concerns
that
other
municipalities
have
experienced
with
this
type
of
industry.
M
So
these
are
not
unfounded
or
just
pulled
out
of
thin
air
concerns,
they're
worthy
of
study,
they're
worthy
of
bringing
the
count
the
question
to
the
city
council,
because
you
don't
get
an
opportunity
to
do
it
over
once.
Something
is
in
place
the
opportunity
to
revisit
these
things
really
goes
away,
and
so
that's
why
we
brought
the
question
in
front
of
the
city
council
at
an
abundance
of
caution.
B
Thank
you.
Miss
powers,
council,
discussion.
D
I
think
a
few
weeks
ago
we
we
revisited
the
the
cannabis
dispensaries
that
we
thought
we
had
settled
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago.
D
That
said,
this
is
an
industry
and
I'm
sure
that
the
people
who
are
are
growing
it
and
want
to
get
into
this
business
of
of
processing.
It
are
chomping
at
the
bit
to
be
able
to
do
that.
So
I
think,
in
terms
of
a
moratorium,
I
think
we
do
need
a
breather.
D
D
However,
I
think
time
is
of
the
essence
as
well.
K
Thank
you,
mayor
yeah,
this
we're
really
looking
at
a
two-fold
approach
here:
it's
not
just
hemp.
It's
also
the
end
product,
cbd,
hemp's,
big
business,
again
used
to
be
a
huge
crop
decades
ago.
It's
making
a
big
comeback
now,
because
the
cbd
that
it
produces,
but
back
in
those
days
you
know
it
was
a
rural
industry.
It
was.
It
was
dried
out
in
the
out
in
the
countryside
and
in
barns.
K
What
we're
looking
at
now
is
bringing
you
know
huge
amounts
of
this
stuff
into
the
city
and
drying
it
in
one
of
our
industrial
complexes
with
people
all
around,
and
you
know
I
mean
I
have
concerns
about
the
odors.
I
have
concerns
about
the
traffic
I
have
concerns
about.
K
You
know
the
location
so
that
stuff's
got
to
be
looked
at.
I
really
think
I
mean
I'm
not
trying
to
shut
down
the
industry,
but
I
just
think
there's
we
need
time
to
take
a
look
at
how
it's
going
to
work
and
the
second
part
is
the
cbd
to
me.
That's
a
little
more
something
we
need
to
look
at
a
little
closer.
You
know,
there's
applications
have
cbd
stores
on
teo
boulevard.
K
We
already
have
two,
I
think,
there's
potentially
three
or
four
more
and
the
proliferation
of
stores
on
the
boulevard
they're
selling
a
product
that
is
really
not
particularly
well
regulated
at
this
point.
They
don't
test
it
for
contaminants.
I
mean
I
have
the.
I
have
the
stats
right
here.
Two-Thirds
of
cbd
products
are
mislabeled.
K
They
either
have
too
much
th
too
much
thc
too
little
thc
or
or
none
at
all
or
the
thc
levels.
Two,
I'm
sorry
too
much
cbd,
too
little
cbd
or
not
at
all
on
the
thc
levels
are
off
if
they
also
have
contaminants
they're
not
being
tested
for
the
fda,
is
sending
letters
out
on
this
stuff
constantly
to
these
cbd
producers
saying
clean
it
up
this
stuff's,
no
good.
So
I'm
concerned
about
the
safety
of
this
stuff.
K
They
are
so
yeah
I
mean
I'm
sure
some
of
it
is
good,
but
some
of
them
might
not
be
so
good.
So
we
have
to
be
sure
that
the
cbd
stuff
is
checked
for
its
thc
for
its
contaminants.
There
should
be
state.
It
should
be
just
like
any
other
product
standardized
labels.
There
should
be,
you
know,
independent
testing,
all
that
stuff
and-
and
that's
just
not
happening
right
now,
and
I
want
to
see
that
kind
of
stuff
going
on
the
boulevard
and
not
being
safe.
I'm
concerned
about
that.
K
K
Maybe
that's
the
best
place
for
it,
and
it
should
have
a
certificate
of
analysis
right
on
cbd
and
it
should
have
that
hemp
authority
symbol
on
it
most
of
it.
Doesn't
we
don't
know
what's
in
it
where
it's
coming
from
so
anyway,
key
here
is
need
a
breather
got
to
make
sure
this
product's
safe,
gives
us
a
chance
to
step
back.
B
Thank
you,
mr
powers.
I
I
would
just
add
I
was
concerned
for
you,
mr
johnson.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
was
covered.
I
have
I
have
no
problem
with
cbd
or
hemp,
but
I
I
have
no
problem
with
the
staff
asking
for
more
time
to
process
this.
I
think,
45
days
beyond
that,
you're
gonna
start
losing
some
support
on
this
council.
I
don't
think
45
days
is
going
to
hinder
anybody.
B
So
I'm
good,
would
you
prepare
the
vote.
C
The
motion
passes
5-0
and
your
ordinance
title
is
an
interim
urgency
ordinance
declaring
a
moratorium
on
approval
or
issuance
of
any
permit
license
or
entitlement
relating
to
applications
for
cultivation,
processing,
drying,
storing
and
manufacturing
of
industrial
hemp,
as
well
as
non-incidental
retail
sale
and
products
derived
in
any
part
from
industrial
hemp.
Seeds,
ordinance,
number
1665,
ns.
B
C
Good
evening,
mayor
and
council
members,
tonight's
presentation
will
cover
the
city's
campaign
contributions
limit,
as
well
as
an
update
on
the
city
council
vacancy
process,
as
mandated
by
thousand
oaks
municipal
code
in
1998,
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
adopted
a
local
campaign
finance
ordinance
in
2013.
The
ordinance
was
extensively
reviewed
and
updated.
C
The
code
also
mandates
city
council
to
adjust
the
contribution
limits
in
march
of
every
odd
year
to
reflect
any
change
in
the
california
consumer
price
index
cpi.
The
last
adjustment
occurred
in
2017,
reflecting
a
530
dollar
limit
affected.
The
2018
election
in
fall
of
2018
staff,
determined
it
was
best
to
defer
the
five-year
reevaluation
process
due
to
the
november
election
and
other
pressing
issues
in
the
city
per
the
ordinance
staff
prepared
the
calculation
for
the
new
limit
based
on
data
from
the
march
2019
cpi,
resulting
in
an
increase
to
560
dollars.
C
This
limit
would
be
applicable
to
the
november
2020
election.
Should
the
city
council
wish
to
maintain
the
500
500
limit
as
the
base
for
comparison
purposes,
staff
pulled
ventura
county
cities
to
determine
which
cities
adopted
campaign
contribution,
ordinances
and
the
amounts
of
their
limits
out
of
the
nine
cities?
Three
have
con
have
campaign
contribution
limits.
C
C
C
During
the
two
thousand.
Sixteen
and
eighteen
general
municipal
elections
staff
did
not
receive
comments
from
candidates
related
to
the
limit,
as
directed
in
the
ordinance
every
five
years.
The
city
council
must
evaluate
and
give
staff
direction
regarding
the
500
base
limit
and
setting
the
amount
for
future
elections.
C
C
The
impetus
for
sb
415
was
low.
Voter
turnout,
25
or
less
during
elections
not
held
on
statewide
election
dates,
where
local
state
and
federal
issues
are
on
the
ballot
thousand
oaks
already
consolidates
our
elections,
so
this
law
didn't
directly
affect
us,
but
as
you'll
see,
there
were
unatten
unintended
consequences
later
that
year,
city
council,
rescinded
resolution
98195
to
no
longer
require
a
special
runoff
election.
In
the
case
of
a
thai
vote,
instead
city
council
authorized
a
ventura
county
clerk
to
resolve,
resolve
a
tie
vote
by
lot.
C
C
The
special
election
must
take
place
on
the
next
established
election
date,
not
less
than
114
days
from
the
call
of
the
election.
There
are
three
types
of
elections
determined
by
the
date.
The
election
will
be
held
and
the
county's
ability
to
conduct
the
election
consolidated
elections
are
conducted
by
ventura,
county
elections,
division
minimizing
the
responsibility
and
costs
for
cities.
C
C
C
C
This
special
election
resulted
in
26
percent
voter
turnout
at
a
cost
of
over
10
dollars
per
voter
in
comparison.
One
year
later,
the
cost
to
conduct
the
november
2016
regular,
consolidated
statewide
election
for
two
seats
and
one
ballot
measure
was
considerably
lower
at
a
cost
of
47
thousand
dollars,
with
a
significantly
higher
voter
turnout
at
86
percent
and
at
a
cost
of
70
cents
per
voter.
C
C
C
C
In
the
event,
the
city
is
unable
to
conduct
a
consolidated
elections.
These
are
the
costs
and
voter
turnout
figures
that
we
can
expect
for
a
stand-alone
election
staff
base,
the
cost
estimate
on
80
thousand
registered
voters
and
the
percentage
of
voter
turnout
at
the
city's
last
special
election
in
2015,
which
was
26
percent.
C
C
C
C
The
possible
dates
for
these
consolidated
statewide
elections
are
march
and
november
in
even
years,
meaning.
There
are
four
dates
in
a
four-year
cycle
when
we
can
hold
this
type
of
election
in
the
second
column
for
consolidated
non-statewide
elections,
the
possible
available
election
dates
are
april
even
years
in
march
and
november
and
odd
years
these
would
occur
six
times
in
a
four-year
cycle.
C
C
C
In
light
of
this
new
legislation
and
the
closure
of
martin
and
chapman
staff
prepared
this
update
on
the
costs
associated
with
special
elections
for
city
council
vacancy
process,
as
required
by
the
thousand
oaks
municipal
code
staff,
will
continue
to
monitor
new
legislation
and
communicate
with
the
county
on
their
ability
to
provide
consolidated
election
services
during
non-statewide
election
dates.
And
we
will
update
the
city
council
as
merited.
C
B
Thank
you,
madam
clerk.
That
was
very
helpful,
so
council
questions
will
begin
with
council
member
bill
de
la
pena.
I
Thank
you
mayor
mccoy,
so
from
from
this
report,
am
I
then
to
assume
that
there
was
one
law
firm
or
one
firm
in
the
entire
state
of
california
single-handedly
responsible
for
handling
special
elections
or
runoffs.
C
Mayor
bill,
dylan,
councilmember,
mayor
council,
member
bill
del
pena,
that
is
correct.
The
only
firm
is
martin
and
chapman
company.
They
were
out
of
the
city
of
anaheim
here
in
california,
and
they
were
the
only
company
throughout
california
and
nevada
that
provided
the
service,
primarily
in
california
and
some
parts
of
nevada,
and
they
were
in
business
for
64
years
or
so.
C
I
do
know
that
the
ceo
of
martin
chapman
did
reach
out.
They
did
send
letters.
I
know
there
were
many.
The
league
was
involved
and
many
standalone
cities
were,
did
you
know,
or
many
cities
throughout
california
did
go
ahead
and
relay
that
hey?
This
was
problematic,
especially
as
it
relates
to
oxnard's
the
recall
election.
I
I
would
think,
then
perhaps
we
need
to
contact
our
state
representatives
to
work
on
this,
because
it's
inconceivable
that
we're
putting
democracy
on
hold
because
people
don't
know
how
to
run
an
election.
Don't
have
equipment
to
run
an
election
and
don't
have
money
to
run
an
election.
So
that's
just
my
two
cents.
D
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
It
appears
that
we
should
plan
our
vacancies
for
even
number
of
years.
It
seems
that
that
would
be
a
good
fiscal
responsibility.
In
our
part,
however,
I
don't
think
that's
in
within
the
realm
of
our
ability.
D
As
I
recall,
this
ordinance
was
based
on
a
on
a
a
citizen
initiative
that
was
brought
to
the
council
and
the
council
brought
that
and
adopted
it.
Does
that
mean
that
we
are
unable
to
amend
it
from
the
from
the
diocese
or
do
we
need
to
go
with
a
another
citizen
initiative,
or
is
it
possible
for
us
to
amend
it
and
address
this
issue
where
we
don't
put
our
city
at
risk
for
these
special
elections.
S
Since
it
wasn't
an
a
citizen
initiative,
the
city
council
cannot
make
any
changes
to
the
ordinance
without
going
to
a
vote
of
the
people
and
and
coincidentally
and
the
city,
clerk
and
I've
had
and
city
manager,
and
I
have
had
many
conversations
about
about
the
costs
associated
with
the
elections
when
they're
standalone
elections,
and
we
were
actually
contemplating
bringing
a
potential
voter
initiative
for
city
council
to
initiate
to
add
just
the
word
consolidated
election
to
the
language.
T
Mcfaris
newbury
park
area
of
thousand
oaks.
I
did
want
to
give
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
have
kind
of
address
and
maybe
fill
in
and
round
out.
Some
of
the
discussion
relating
to
the
report
you
received
today
so
certainly
a
lot
of
the
report
you
have,
and
I
think
some
of
it
also
sort
of
fills
in
the
gaps
with
the
discussion
you
mentioned
here
and
the
supplemental
packet
you
you
received
so
sb
415
was
a
piece
of
state
legislation
that
did
change.
T
How
regularly
scheduled
local
elections
happen,
to
increase,
turnout
and
there's
a
specific
provision,
at
least
in
the
law.
That
says
it
does
not
affect
special
elections.
It
does
did,
as
we've
talked
about
here,
have
the
unintended
consequences
of
having
a
marketplace
change
in
which
a
firm
that
provides
consulting
services
went
out
of
business.
T
The
the
thing
is,
though,
is
that
cost
of
a
special
election
or
cost
of
an
election
in
general
is
always
used
as
an
argument
not
to
hold
an
election.
It
happens
every
time.
It
happens
every
time
that
that
is
out
brought
up
for
discussion
and
the
price
tag
starts
to
to
you
know
the
numbers
go
into
the
six
digits
and
people
go.
Oh,
my
god.
It's
terrible.
We
can't
end
up
having
an
election,
can't
we
find
some
other
way
so
that
we
don't
do
this.
T
It
always
happens,
but
whenever,
whenever
councils
are
provided
the
opportunity
to
hold
an
election,
even
in
cases
where
it
is
not
cost
prohibitive
councils
have
demonstrated
that
they
still
will
not
hold
that
election.
They
will
not
let
the
voters
select
for
themselves
who
was
on
the
council,
and
that
happened
in
thousand
oaks,
and
the
history
of
this
initiative
starts
in
2005,
when
ed
masri,
unfortunately
had
to
resign
due
to
health
issues.
The
council
had
an
opportunity,
with
three
years,
left
on
his
term
to
either
fill
it
by
appointment
or
hold
an
election.
T
They
chose
to
fill
it
by
appointment.
When
you
have
four
votes,
that
can
be
a
majority.
It
allows
the
council
to
do
great
many
things
such
as
approving
an
inner
emergency
ordinance
to
where
the
voters
would
not
have
the
opportunity
to
have
their
own
representative.
On
the
council
fast
forward,
seven
years
to
2012,
fortunately
dennis
gillette
had
to
resign
due
to
health
issues,
and
even
though
it
was
presented
to
the
council
that
a
special
election
would
happen
in
november
with
the
highest
turnout
and
the
least
expense.
T
The
council
still
chose
to
appoint
for
nearly
three
years
left
on
the
term
without
having
an
election
that
spurred
the
voters
to
sign
petitions
brought
it
to
the
council,
and,
as
it
was
mentioned,
it
was
approved
by
the
council
as
if
it
were
consistent
with
the
initiative
process
as
if
it
were
approved
by
the
voters.
So
there
are
two
elements
that
are
important
here
and
one
recommendation:
two
elements:
one
there's
nothing
in
state
law,
nor
the
cost
structures
of
holding
an
election
that
have
changed
between
then
and
now
to
justify
changing
the
ordinance.
T
I
think
that
we're
still
in
place
and
the
voters
still
want
that.
Secondly,
as
was
pointed
out
by
the
city
attorney,
there's
a
section
that
requires
that
any
amendment
or
repeal
has
to
be
approved
by
the
voters,
so
you
need
to
have
the
voters
consent
on
it.
The
recommendation
is
that,
since
it's
important
to
pay
for
elections,
it
is
important
to
pay
for
the
mechanism
of
free
and
fair
elections,
so
the
voters
can
elect
their
representatives.
T
That's
the
way
to
handle
it
it's
a
way,
rather
than
change
the
ordinance
and
undermine
the
democratic
process,
use
those
175
million
dollars
worth
of
revenue
that
you
have
every
year
to
be
able
to
tuck
a
little
away
and
pay
for
pay
for
some
elections.
Thank
you.
F
B
F
I
in
looking
through
all
these
items
on
the
list
here,
it
seems
to
me
that
the
cost
of
campaigning
has
risen
significantly
over
the
years,
and
this
limit
based
on
five
hundred
dollars,
seems
unrealistic
to
me.
F
I
think,
therefore,
many
candidates
loan
their
campaign's
money
at
the
outset,
because
they've
got
to
buy
these
things
right
away
and
therefore
they
loan
their
campaign.
Twenty
thirty
thousand
dollars,
with
the
hope
that
later
they
can
get
contributions
that
will
ease
some
of
that
pain
and
and
perhaps
take
care
of
a
little
bit
of
it.
F
So
I
I
don't
believe-
and
I
don't
know
if
there's
anybody
that
feels
the
way
I
do
on
the
council.
But
I
don't
believe,
therefore,
that
the
financial
ability
to
come
up
with
20
to
30
000,
to
give
you
a
fighting
chance
to
launch
a
successful
campaign,
should
be
a
criterion
of
somebody
who
wants
to
run
for
council
the
first
time
now.
I
know
that
person
may
not
easily
get
higher
contributions
either,
but
I
think
he
has
more
of
a
chance
to
do
that.
F
I
think
the
simi
valley,
a
minimum
of
a
thousand
dollars,
is
more
realistic
based
on
particularly
the
high
cost
of
mailing.
Now
I
mean
to
do
a
citywide
mailing
is
just
phenomenal.
I've
I've
never
been
able
to
do
that.
I've
done
some
minor
mailings,
so
I
would
just
like
the
council
to
maybe
consider
the
fact
that
the
500
base
is
low
in
proportion
to
the
cost
of
running
a
campaign
in
thousand
oaks.
That
would
have
a
chance
of
being
successful.
That's
all
I
had
to
say
mr
mayor.
B
Thank
you,
councilmember.
There
appears
to
be
no
other
speakers,
but
mayor
pro
tim,
you
adam,
you
were
gonna.
K
T
It
actually
it
never
got
to
the
ballot.
This
was
the
where
the
council,
actually
I
in.
T
I
Bill
pena.
Thank
you,
mayor
mccoy.
Yes,
the
the
council
adopted
the
right
to
vote
initiative.
What
I
wanted
to
mention
is,
I
think
mr
ferris
put
it
very
eloquently.
It's
it's.
There
is
a
price
for
every
election
and
regardless
of
the
turnout,
whether
it's
26
percent
or
86
percent,
and
even
at
26,
that
is
a
wonderful
voter
turnout
in
a
non-consolidated
election
simply
because,
when
you
look
at
our
neighbor
l.a
county
they're
in
the
single
digits
by
now
on
on
off
cycle,
so
26
is
really
a
very
good
void
of
turnout.
I
I
I
have
to
say
that
the
not
sure
if
I
would
want
a
tie
to
be
decided
by
a
coin
toss
and
I'm
just
wondering
whether
we
could
revisit
that
resolution
that
states
that
to
that
a
tie
would
be
decided
by
a
coin
toss.
I'm
not
sure
how
my
colleagues
feel
about
this.
How
about.
M
Let's
say
clark
respond,
but
I
think
one
of
the
as
we've
talked
about
a
little
bit.
You
know
it.
It
may
seem
relatively
arbitrary,
but
there
there
needs
to
be
some
mechanism
in
there
to
to
break
the
tie
and
your
options
are
actually
fairly
limited
when
it
comes
to
that.
So
she
can
speak
to
that.
C
We
actually
did
reach
out
to
mark
lund
and
he
said
it's
an
actual
coin
that
they,
because
we
were
curious,
that
different
counties
do
it
differently.
So
we
were
curious,
but
you
know
we
asked
the
question,
and
that
was
the
response.
C
It
is
the
actual
coin
flip,
but
to
the
question
as
it
relates
to
the
recision
of
resolution
98195,
when
we
come
back
to
call
when
we
will
come
before
you
in
june
2020
to
call
the
november
election
at
that
time
we
will
be
bringing
forward
the
resolution
that
requires
the
mechanism
that
we'll
use
to
determine
a
thai
vote
and
at
that
time,
so
that'll
be
coming
at
every
future
election,
and
so
at
that
time
we
can
go
ahead
and
give
you
we'll
give
two.
C
There
are
two
options:
it's
either
by
lot
or
runoff
elections,
so
that
we
can
bring
that
to
council
in
june
of
2020.
K
K
I
wonder
if
maybe
we
shouldn't
consider
upping
that
a
little
bit
I
mean
it's
been
seven
years
and
I
know
we
increase
it
by
the
cpi,
but
we're
only
one
of
four
cities
that
even
has
a
limit,
and
I
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
a
limit,
but
for
practical
purposes
it
it
is
expensive
to
run
a
campaign.
I
mean,
if
you,
if
it
the
average
campaign,
costs
30
000
we're
getting
500.
That's
60
people
to
pay
the
max
to
even
get
to
the
30
000..
K
So
I'm
wonder
I
mean
it's
not
going
to
be
make
it
or
break
it
for
me,
but
I
think
it
might
be
worth
a
discussion
that
you
know.
Maybe
we
think
about
that
upping
that
500
to
I
don't
know
I'll
throw
maybe
750.
Would
that
be
outrageous
to
think
about
again,
just
just
discussion.
We've
all
run
campaigns
here.
Claudia
has
bob
has
rob,
has
ed,
has.
B
Well,
councilman
wrangler.
D
The
the
500
actually
530
amount
right
we
were
limited
to,
and
I
can
only
speak
to
my
own
experience
was
not
a
hindrance
it.
There
is
some
benefit
to
having
to
get
many
smaller
contributions.
In
that
you
need
to
talk
to
more
people.
That
way
we,
the
cpi,
does
cover
it
somewhat.
D
The
increase
that
has
happened
over
the
years.
I
think
city
clerk
mentioned
that
would
be
going
to
560
yes
at
this
at
this
next
election
as
a
maximum
donation.
I
I
I
I
think
if,
if
we
keep
it
at
the
500
plus
cpi,
which
would
bring
it
to
560,
I
think
that
is
a
very
healthy
amount
and-
and
yes,
mr
engler,
is
right,
it
forces
you
to
go
out
there
and
talk
to
more
people.
That's
true,
but
we
know
by
mr
jones.
Having
run
several
campaigns,
you
knock
on
doors,
spend
a
small
amount
of
money
and
you
win.
Elections
would.
F
I
000,
yes,
so
elections.
K
F
F
F
K
Well,
since
I
brought
it
up,
I
mean
it's
a
good
discussion
and
I
I'm
not
sensing
the
temperature
of
the
council
to
really
change
the
amount,
but
I
think
you
bring
up
some
good
points,
ed
about
that.
So
unless
you
want
to
chime
in
mayor
mccoy.
K
I
Just
briefly,
it
gives
incumbents
an
advantage
as
well.
When
you
raise
the
cap
or
the
base
it
does.
An
incumbent
will
always
outspend
a
newcomer,
except
in
mr
engler's
case
in
my
case.
Well,.
F
I
think
you
do
encourage
wealthy
people
to
run,
because
I
believe
it's
common
knowledge
that
the
supreme
court
decision
that
said
money
to
speech
speech
is
money
which
I
don't
agree
with
said
that
there
could
be
no
limit
on
the
candidate
himself,
because
the
ability
to
spend
money
is
free
speech.
I
think
if
we
want
to
get
into
a
constitutional
debate,
I
believe
that
supreme
court
was
wrong.
I
don't
think
money
is
speech.
I
think
that
we're
all
born
with
an
equal
right
to
speak,
but
we're
not
all
born
with
an
equal
amount
of
money.
F
So
money
is
a
tool.
Money
is
a
gives
one,
the
ability
to
speak
okay,
but
it
is
not
speech.
So
I
know
I
I
don't
want
to
get
into
this
discussion,
but
I'm
just
saying
we're
encouraging
wealthy
people
to
run
for
city
council
because
there's
no
limit
they,
they
can
give
themselves
fifty
thousand
dollars.
F
B
Well,
I
would
chime
in
by
saying
I
have
no
problem
with
an
increase
in
the
individual
contribution.
A
B
Limit
it
so
that
you
know
someone
just
can't
be
awash
with
funds,
but
easier
is
I'm
open
to
that
so
there's.
K
F
K
It's
it's
worth
discussing,
but
at
this
point
I
would
move
that
we
keep
the
500
base
rate
increase
it
by
the
cpi.
That
brings
it
up
to
560.
and
appreciate
the
report
on
the
on
the
election
status.
K
The
initiative
is,
is
in
place
and
it
needs
to
stay
in
place
and
with
that
99
probability
the
county
would
step
in.
I
think
that
would
alleviate
it.
You
know,
but
sometimes
democracy
is
not
cheap.
You
know
the
people
have
a
right
to
speak
and
not
initially
to
make
sure
that
happens
so
you're
here
anyway.
My
motion's
on
the
500
with
the
cpi
increase,
do.
B
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
and
we
have
no
committee
reports.
City
manager
follow
up.
M
So
much
mayor
mccoy,
our
next
regularly
scheduled
meeting,
will
be
two
weeks
in
two
weeks.
On
the
8th
of
october,
we
have
several
special
presentations,
one
from
five
star
theatricals
recognition
of
kanajo
senior,
volunteer
program,
charity,
karaoke
event
and
a
presentation
from
ventura
county
behavioral
health.
M
M
Just
a
reminder
to
the
public
and
the
council
that
a
week
from
tomorrow
night
on
wednesday,
the
second
we
have
our
next
large
community
gathering
for
the
general
plan,
where
we
have
world
recognized
speaker,
charles
montgomery,
we'll
be
here,
he's
a
well-known
author
and
of
a
book
called
happy
city,
and
he
will
be
here
to
help
to
inspire
us
and
prepare
us
for
our
embarking
on
our
general
plan.
Update
process
that'll
be
at
6
pm
in
this
room
here
and
encourage
everyone
to
spread.
The
word
on
that.
That's
all.