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B
I
can't
carry
a
tune
in
a
bucket,
I
heard
it
was
a
wonderful
event
and
a
lot
of
fun
for
everyone
to
participate
and
attended.
I
did
vote.
I
believe,
however,
laura
and
julie.
Thank
you
for
organizing
this
event
and
for
all
the
work
you
do
through
the
cvsp
to
support
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
and
I'm
going
to
present
you
with
a
certificate,
but
first
say
a
couple
things
and
then
we'll
take
a
picture
together.
Come
on.
If
you'd
like
to.
E
E
E
E
B
B
Thank
you,
ladies
next
I'd
like
to
invite
susan
whitewood
from
the
ventura
county,
behavioral
health
department,
to
tell
us
about
their
program
no
place
like
home.
Susan
welcome.
Where
are
you.
G
Point
there,
okay
good
evening,
thank
you,
mayor,
mccoy
and
good
evening,
council,
members
and
city
staff.
My
name
is
susan
whitewood
and
I
work
for
the
county
of
ventura
behavioral
health
department
and
I'm
here
tonight
to
tell
you
about
the
voter
approved
no
place
like
home
ballot
initiative
that
provides
funding
to
build
housing
for
the
homeless
and
the
mentally
ill.
G
G
G
Housing,
as
you
know,
is
tied
to
income
and
housing
is
also
evidence-based.
Care
for
homelessness,
the
mentally
ill
and
homeless
live
an
average
of
15
to
30
years
less
than
the
rest
of
the
general
population
and
unstable
or
unsafe
housing
can
cause
or
increase
stress,
anxiety
and
depression
for
all
of
us,
not
just
the
homeless
and
the
mentally
ill.
Believe
me,
a
positive
change
in
housing
can
also
result
in
a
positive
change
in
other
areas
of
a
person's
life,
including
increased
well-being.
G
So
ventura
county
behavioral
health
has
built
and
is
managing
housing
throughout
the
county,
and
we've
done
this
over
the
course
of
the
last
20
years.
We
coordinate
appropriate
housing
for
the
mentally
ill.
We
serve
the
seriously
mentally
ill
and
of
those
that
we
serve.
I
would
say
that
about
30
percent
are
homeless,
so
not
everyone
that
we
serve
is
homeless.
G
G
Lack
of
supportive
housing
in
the
county
is
also
a
barrier
by
that
by
supportive
housing.
I'm
talking
about
boarding
care
facilities
and
also
residential
care
facilities
for
the
elderly,
where
homeless
and
mentally
ill
clients
can
receive
a
higher
level
of
service
the
highest.
The
demographic
in
our
county
that
is
increasing
more
than
any
other
in
terms
of
homelessness,
is
the
senior
population
and
there's
a
lack
of
housing
for
that
population.
G
G
G
G
Some
of
the
existing
housing
resources
that
the
county
has
for
the
mentally
ill
include
203
units
county-wide,
where
we
provide
permanent,
supportive
housing.
We
also
have
just
over
30
what
used
to
be
called
section:
8
vouchers,
where
we
work
with
private
landlords
to
prov
to
accept
subsidies
for
rent,
we
also
contract
with
seven
board
and
care
facilities,
which
includes
two
residential
care
facilities
for
the
elderly.
That
number
is
down
significantly.
G
Over
the
last
10
years
we
used
to
contract
with
16
different
board
and
care
facilities,
and
now
we
have
contracts
with
only
seven
and
then
the
last
bullet
point
on
this
slide
is
the
no
place
like
home
funding,
which
again
was
voter
approved.
This
was
on
our
ballots
last
november
and
basically,
the
state
is
funding
housing
for
homeless
and
mentally
ill
through
four
rounds
of
funding
round
one
was
completed
in
january
and
we're
in
the
middle
of
round
two.
As
as
I
speak,
so
the
ballot
initiative
called
for
what
the
state
did
was.
G
They
took
some
of
our
mental
health
services
act
budget
and
they
earmarked
a
carve
out.
So
some
of
the
money
for
housing
for
the
homeless
and
mentally
ill,
but
they
didn't
just
give
us
that
money
back
to
build
housing
what
they
did
was
they
put
it
in
a
giant
competitive
pot
for
the
entire
state
all
counties
to
apply
for
so
the
state
was
carved
into
four
categories.
G
There's
the
category
that
I
call
too
big
to
fail,
which
includes
los
angeles,
san
francisco,
san
diego,
I
think
santa
clara
was
the
other
county.
Those
counties
were
given
money
to
do
with
what
they
will.
Then.
The
next
category
is
the
large
county
category
and
that's
the
category
that
we're
in
ventura
county
is
the
smallest
county
within
the
large
category
of
counties,
so
we're
competing
for
90
million
dollars
statewide.
G
The
round
two
request
for
proposals
is
available
now
on
the
county,
ventura
behavior
health
website,
and
I
put
the
link
there
in
the
slide.
You
can
see
that
we
also
have
1.6
million
in
non-competitive
funding
available
for
communities
to
apply
for
somewhat
over-the-counter
funds
where
we
can
it's
not
enough
funding
to
to
build
any
whole
project,
but
it
is
available
to
offset
some
other
costs
for
building
housing.
G
The
eligible
applicants
for
place
like
home
funding
are
the
county
of
ventura.
However,
we
don't
build
housing,
so
we
partner
with
non-profit
developers.
Some
of
those
you
know
many
mansions
is
one
cabrio
economic
development
corporation
is
another
mercy
house
comes
to
mind
various
housing
authorities.
There
are
many,
those
are
just
a
few.
G
G
Some
of
the
other
requirements
for
no
place
like
home
projects,
we
use
the
housing
first
low
barrier,
evidence-based
model,
the
the
project
must
be
a
minimum
of
five
units
and
the
funding
will
pay
for
a
maximum
of
49
of
the
total
project.
So,
basically,
you
have
an
affordable
housing
project
and
within
that
project
no
place
like
home
units
are
scattered
throughout,
so
that
those
folks
can
be
integrated
into
the
community.
G
Okay,
I'm
almost
done
so.
This
is
the
current
funding
timeline,
as
I
said,
there's
90
million
dollars
available
to
build
housing
for
the
homeless
and
the
mentally
ill.
The
applications
are
due
to
the
county
on
friday
and
then
the
applica.
The
final
applications
are
due
to
the
state
in
january
january,
8th
and
I
can
now
answer
any
questions.
B
Thank
you,
susan.
Our
last
presentation.
B
H
Thank
you
mayor
mccoy.
Thank
you.
Well
such
a
privilege
to
be
here.
Thank
you
city,
council,
for
seeing
us.
I
have
to
tell
you,
after
15
months
of
being
the
artistic
director
for
five
star
theatricals,
I
am
so
honored
to
be
here
to
be
a
part
of
the
community.
I
feel
like
I
have
friends
here,
welcome
claudia
bill
telepena
and
your
husband
ron.
They
are
friends
of
mine
chief
tim
hagel.
H
H
We
are
all
combining
our
talents
to
put
on
hollywood
to
stage
and
back
again
it
is
broadway
musicals
that
have
transferred
to
film,
like
the
music
man,
camelot,
rent,
willy
wonka,
the
chocolate
factory
and
the
same
thing
with
films
that
have
gone
to
broadway
musicals,
it's
going
to
be
an
extraordinary
event
with
60
piece
orchestra
on
stage
six
of
the
greatest
singers,
including
our
headliner,
he's
tony
nominee
for
the
the
show
rent
on
broadway.
He
is
starring
for
us
for
five
star
theatricals
in
the
music
man,
adam
pascal
get
your
tickets.
It's
a
fundraiser!
H
So
it's
an
amazing
thing
for
five
star,
like
I
said
adam
pascal,
is
starring
in
that,
and
we
have
two
incredible
performers
here
that
I
think
you
all
will
enjoy.
Our
winthrop
is
here
he's
going
to
sing
a
piece
called
gary
indiana
and
our
marian
catherine
catherine
mcdonough
is
here
and
she's
going
to
sing
a
bit
of
tilde
with
you.
Please
welcome
joshua
blonde
and
catherine
mcdonough.
E
A
A
H
B
B
I
met
him
before
the
meeting
and
he
I
could
barely
hear
him
speak
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
he
sings-
and
he
just
fills
the
room,
what
a
wonderful
gift
all
right.
Madam
clerk,
if
you
would
announce
the
public
comments,
please
this.
C
C
All
remarks
should
be
addressed
to
the
council
as
a
whole
and
all
documents
for
city
council
and
the
official
record
should
be
presented
to
the
city
clerk
prior
to
speaking.
Speakers
are
requested
to
state
their
name
and
community
of
residence
for
the
record
under
state
law.
Public
comment
matters
may
not
be
considered
by
the
council
unless
listed
on
the
agenda,
but
may
be
referred
to
the
city
manager
for
administrative
follow-up.
C
I
I
I
The
men
and
women
of
the
sheriff's
office
who
serve
the
thousand
oaks
communities
your
police
force,
work
tirelessly
to
tamp
down
crime
and
to
keep
thousand
oaks,
is
one
of
the
finest
places
anywhere
to
live,
work
and
play.
I
know
I
speak
on
behalf
of
all
the
men
and
women
that
serve
this
community
and
particularly
on
behalf
of
chief
hegel
that
we
take
great
pride
in
serving
as
your
police
force.
I
B
Thank
you
sheriff
billy
martin,
followed
by
susan
weiniger,.
I
Good
evening,
good
evening,
I
sure
wish
I
could
sing
yeah
anyway.
My
name
is
billy
martin
and
I'm
a
thousand
oaks
lover,
and
I
know
all
of
you
are
too
first
happy
25th
and
happy
45th.
Recently
there
was
an
article
in
the
paper.
I
think
it
did.
The
thousand
oaks
civic
arts
puzzle
very
much
justice,
but
I
was
a
little
miffed
when
my
concept
for
the
copper
curtain
wall
wasn't
mentioned.
So
I
figured
I'd
come
up
here
and
put
in
another
pitch
for
it,
because
I
feel
it's
a
timeless
idea.
I
I
Next
to
the
civic
arts
plaza,
I
envisioned
a
premier
hotel
that
could
be
put
behind
the
lakes
and
it
could
be
connected
behind
the
civic
arts,
plaza
to
the
parking
structure
and
it
would
feed
into
the
lakes
and
it
would
feed
into
the
civic
arts
plaza
and
also
the
new
downtown,
and
there
was
some
talk
of
putting
an
arch
for
the
new
downtown
on
herbs.
I
think
that's
the
wrong
location,
because
7-eleven
is
never
going
anywhere
and
neither
is
usa
gas.
I
So
I
believe
that
the
arch
should
come
up
to
kaneho
school
road
and,
as
you
come
off
of
hampshire,
you
would
be
looking
into
the
lakes
and
the
civic
arts
plaza
entering
downtown
and
on
the
other
side
of
the
arch.
What
I'd
like
to
see
is
entering
old
town.
I
think
it's
time
that
we
spent
some
of
this
discretionary
income
on
another
part
of
the
boulevard
and
a
part
of
the
city
that
was
here
before
we
incorporated.
I
I
I
have
one
final
idea
and
it's
a
little
bit
more
towards
the
future,
but
the
traffic
on
the
freeways
is
never
going
to
get
any
better
and
a
thousand
oaks
happens
to
be
in
a
great
spot
as
a
hub
from
the
city
of
los
angeles
and
in
the
middle
with
santa
barbara
and
transportation
is
changing,
and
it's
not
going
to
change
on
the
freeways
it's
going
to
be
up
in
the
air,
and
I
envision
a
heliport
slash
hub
port
for
companies
like
amazon,
uber,
drone
port
with
a
central
location,
that's
more
close
to
residential,
so
that
it
makes
sense.
I
C
B
C
C
If
you
are
going
to
make
alterations
and
modifications
to
the
ordinance
now
would
be
a
good
time
to
include
protections
for
residents
which
are
not
currently
in
there,
similar
to
other
nearby
cities,
which
we
are
all
aware
of
and
have
discussed
previously.
There
are
many
studies
providing
a
proving
that
radio
frequencies
transmitting
24
hours
a
day.
A
few
feet
from
us
and
directed
toward
us
will
have
an
effect
on
us.
It
makes
sense.
Please
protect
us
in
ways
that
you
have
not
done
yet.
Thank
you.
E
Hello
hi
good
evening,
hi,
I'm
dr
madeline
altman
harris.
I
live
in
newbury
park
and
I
thank
you
for
listening
to
us
regarding
the
fifth
generation
we're
talking
about
the
wireless
here.
E
I
did
want
to
say
that
this
is
a
very
remarkable
group,
and
I
appreciate
everybody
in
the
council
for
listening
and
talking
to
us
and
being
supportive
of
some
of
the
changes
that
we're
doing,
because
thousand
oaks
has
been
a
leader
in,
what's
going
on
across
california
in
the
united
states,
I'm
requesting
that
you
will
put
in
no
cell
towers
until
it's
an
environmental
impact
studies
are
done.
The
environmental
impact
studies
are
not
done
at
this
time.
E
As
a
doctor,
I
could
tell
you
that
the
five
fifth
generation
is
known
to
break
down
the
blood
brain
barrier
when
you
break
down
the
blood
brain
barrier,
you're
talking
about
mental
illness
and
when
you
talk
about
mental
illness,
you're
talking
about
addiction,
homelessness,
everything
that
goes
along
with
that.
This
is
a
dangerous
technology
that
has
been
used
in
the
military.
For
certain
reasons,
which
I
know
you've
all
been
talked
about.
My
other
concerns
are
besides
the
health
impacts.
Well,
including
health
impacts,
are
the
metal
the
metal.
This
is
microwave
radiation.
E
As
you
know,
you
don't
put
metal
into
a
microwave
in
our
bodies.
We
have
metal
in
our
teeth.
We
have
some
people
have
a
doctor.
Implants
are
in
their
bodies
and
heart
transplant.
All
these
things
made
out
of
metal
that
will
be
affected
by
these
things.
Vaccinations
have
metal
in
them
and
they
get
they
stay
in
the
body
they
find
out
all
the
aluminum
in
the
brain
in
the
bones.
These
are
things
that
are
going
to
be
affected
by
this
microwave
radiation,
and
these
are
things
that
I
hear
going
on.
E
These
are
not
made
up
things.
These
are
actual
effects
and
when
they
affect
the
brain,
you
can
only
do
so
much
until
you
get
away
from
this
radiation,
which
sometimes
take
people
months
or
years
to
recover
from
so
I
please,
please
don't
do
this
until
all
the
environmental
impact
studies
are
done,
and
I
thank
you
for
listening.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
Good
evening,
yvette
mikulasek,
thank
you
thousand
oaks,
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
5g
towers.
I
just
quickly
want
to
share
experience
with
you
that
I
had
last
week
my
son
was
playing
a
soccer
game
at
the
thousand
oaks
park
near
the
thousand
hours
high
school.
C
C
C
Also,
the
members
of
the
other
team,
the
other
players,
were
complaining
about
feeling,
tired
and
feeling
sick.
There
was
a
team
of
academy
players
that
were
playing
down
playing
in
our
bronze
bracket
and
they
usually
score
15
goals
in
our
bracket
last
time
they
scored
18
goals
on
us.
This
time
they
scored
one
goal,
and
they
were.
I
heard
the
boys
saying
I
don't
know
what's
wrong
with
me.
C
I
feel
weird
today
the
other
boy
said
I'm
so
tired
and
I
just
went
home
and
I
put
it
all
together
and
I
just
feel
it's
totally
irresponsible
to
put
these
towers
where
children
are
playing
they're
being
put
in
parks
in
in
the
new
park
by
herbs,
and
I
just
don't
feel
it's
it's
a
nice
way
to
treat
our
children.
D
Good
evening,
thank
you
for
letting
me
address
you
on
behalf
of
ventura
county
issue
reform.
You
know,
given
that
tonight
is
the
onset
of
yom
kippur.
There
were
a
few
people
that
haven't
come
and
obviously
a
lot
of
the
electromagnetically
sensitive
people
are
not
here
tonight.
So
I'm
just
going
to
summarize,
because
we
haven't
been
here
for
most
of
the
summer,
what
we've
been
up
to,
and
obviously
with
the
new
impetus
of
the
wia
and
the
issue
with
the
ordnance.
D
There
is
a
newfound
energy
here
to
first
of
all,
thank
you
for
what
you
did
and
hopefully
just
to
continue
in
that
vein.
So
what
we
have
been
doing,
as
you
know,
we've
called
ourselves
ventura
county
issue
reform.
D
We
still
haven't
had
time
to
change
our
name
to
california
issue
reform
because
now
we're
consulting
with
company
companies,
organizations
at
grassroots
levels,
all
the
way
up
to
marin,
county
against
the
small
cell
facility
rollouts,
and
one
of
the
brags
we'd
like
to
have
is
about
a
few
here
in
ohi
we
had
one
meeting
with
them
and
the
city
council
there
actually
put
in
there
that
they
are
looking
after
the
health
of
their
residents
and
they
weren't.
The
first
malibu
was
the
second
beverly
hills
too.
D
D
The
other
thing
is
also
we
had
one
meeting
with
west
lake
and
they
went
ahead
and
we
had
asked
them
for
three
things
in
their
amended
ordinance
and
they
used
two.
The
strongest
one
was
that
they
are
requiring
a
insurance
liability
on
every
single
small
cell
facility.
That's
put
out
of
two
million
dollars
at
least
two
million
dollars.
D
D
So
there
is
lots
of
scientific
proof
out
there,
and
cities
are
moving
towards
that
to
talk
about
safety
because
they
know
that
they
can
talk
about
it.
Based
on
april
14th,
u.s
supreme
court
ruling
that
you,
the
city
council,
do
have
the
policing
power
and
then
of
course
the
second
case
that's
come
out
in
our
favor
was
the
august
ninth
ruling
where
was
done
by
the
native
indians,
but
obviously
the
fcc
was
struck
down
for
arbitrary
and
capricious
installations
of
their
5gs.
D
So
there
has
been
so
much
information.
That's
come
out
in
favor
of
us,
and
I
know
now
our
group
has
grown
to
a
thousand
and
we
have
60
emhs
sensitive
people
who
are
all
covered
under
the
ada.
So
this
problem
is
just
going
to
get
worse
and
worse
and
we
really
appreciate
you
looking
into
it
and
trying
to
protect
your
residence.
J
Mr
mayor
council,
members,
adam
haverstock,
director
of
government
affairs
and
tourism
at
the
greater
kennel
valley
chamber
of
commerce,
just
with
a
couple
items
for
you
tonight.
First
and
foremost,
this
friday
is
going
to
be
the
chambers
taste
of
conejo.
That
is
going
to
be
at
the
four
seasons
hotel
from
6
to
9
p.m.
That's
our
annual
food
wine,
beer
and
spirit
festival
we're
going
to
have
over
a
hundred
vendors
serving
food
wine,
beer
and
spirits
it.
It
did
sell
out
today.
So
if
you
didn't
get
your
tickets,
yet
it
is
too
late.
J
Ask
if
a
friend
is
extra,
it's
going
to
be
a
great
time.
It's
it's
gonna,
be
wonderful.
Second
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
was
regarding
the
upcoming
pga
tour
event.
If
you
didn't
know,
the
pga
tour
is
going
to
be
at
the
sherwood
country
club
october,
31st
through
november
3rd
and
having
one
of
their
events
they
do
it
on
an
annual
basis.
Visit
nejo
valley
is
a
sponsor
of
that
event,
but
we
are.
J
J
There's
also
going
to
be
staff
on
site.
Doing
live
social
media
postings.
So
that
way
we
can
generate
some
buzz
about
the
event
as
well
and
there's
going
to
be
significant
tv
coverage.
So
we
think
that's
going
to
be
some
great
positive
exposure
for
the
region
and
then,
finally,
I
wanted
to
give
a
thank
you
to
a
couple
of
your
staff
members
that
is
jay,
spurgeon
and
heather
cousin
this
month.
J
The
leadership
conejo
program
is
going
to
include
both
a
tour
of
the
thousand
oaks
library
and
also
a
bus
tour
with
the
thousand
oaks
public
works
department
to
look
at
several
of
their
facilities,
including
the
hill
canyon
wastewater
treatment
facility.
And
so
I
just
wanted
to
give
them
a
thank
you
to
jay
and
to
heather
and
to
their
teams
for
taking
the
time
to
show
some
community
members
around
the
facility
and
unless
any
questions
that
has
concluded
my
comments
for
this
evening.
Thanks.
K
Hello,
my
name
is
cosme
mohammed
thousand
oaks.
I
was
gonna
say
every
time.
Every
time
I
open
my
mouth,
somebody's
feelings
get
hurt.
I
don't
know
why
I
was
going
to
say
I
was
thinking
like
bars,
should
open
until
4
am
in
thousand
oaks,
and
then
I
was
thinking
what,
if
thousand
oaks
was
the
first
city
that
paid
woman
more
than
men.
K
You
know
and
then
next
time
a
man
and
a
woman
go
on
a
date.
The
woman
will
pick
up
the
chat
right.
You
got
some
okay,
some
people
agree
with
me,
okay,
and
then
I
was
I
was
thinking
we
all.
We
all
know
about
the
tragedy
that
happened
at
the
borderline
which
which,
which
was
terrible.
So
I
was
thinking
thousand
oaks,
the
third
safest
city
in
america
right.
K
We
have
enough
tax
money
to
buy
that
property
and
turn
into
a
memorial
right
in
honor
of
those
young
people
who
lost
their
lives
right
so
and
then
so
we
call
it
dear
loved
ones,
and
then
we
we
we
build
it,
we
open
it.
The
city
will
buy
it
and
we
hang
out
pictures
of
those
people.
We
honor
them
and
we
show
their
dreams
and
because
you
know
that
was
that
was
tragedy.
I
mean,
if
you
guys
want
to
go
farther.
K
We
can
honor
anybody
who
we
lost
in
a
massive
shooting
in
southern
california,
because
we
can't
honor
everybody
across
america
because
we'll
run
out
pictures
to
hang
on
the
wall,
but
I
was
thinking
thousand
oaks
has
enough
money
to
do
that.
So
why
not?
You
know,
let's,
let's
honor
those
people
and-
and
I'm-
and
I
like-
I
was
saying
like
you
know:
if
thousand
oaks
becomes
the
first
city,
I
don't
know
we
can
do
it,
we
can
do
it.
Maybe
for
a
month
like
you
know
how
they
have
breast
cancer
month.
What?
K
If
we
for
that
month,
we
paid
women
more
than
men
and
would
be
the
first
city
in
the
world
in
america
to
pay
women
more
than
men
and
would
be
on
island
would
be
we'd
be
everywhere.
You
know,
okay,
and
also,
I
was
gonna,
say
a
wise
man
once
said
to
a
lesbian
woman.
You
can't
spell
happiness
without
a
penis
and
that
wise
man
was
me,
and
you
know
I
was
18
at
the
time.
K
F
Hi
good
evening,
I'll
start
off
by
saying
I'm
not
very
prepared,
but
I'm
very
passionate,
and
I
hope
that
that
comes
through
in
the
short
time
I'm
going
to
take,
I'm
going
to
be
speaking
about
kind
of
in
regards
to
the
5g
discussion,
I'm
going
to
ask
a
question-
and
I
hope
this
provokes
everyone
to
think
about
this
is
do
you
feel
a
hundred
percent
certain
or
are
you
that
5g
will
not
cause
any
biological
damage
to
children?
F
And
if
the
answer
I
ask,
if
the
answer
is
not
100
sure,
then
I
think
everyone
here
should
question
how
we
move
forward
with
making
a
technology
like
this
ubiquitous
across
thousand
oaks.
I
have
a
one-year-old
and
a
three-year-old
and
it's
unfortunate
as
a
technologist
that
I
have
to
worry
about
this.
F
I
live
in
dos
vientos
and
recently,
a
new
tower
just
sprung
up
out
of
nowhere
and
I'm
one
of
the
few
people
that
can
recognize
the
symptoms
with
the
actual
cause
of
the
symptoms,
because
I've
informed
myself,
I've
educated
myself,
not
everyone
is
doing
that
and
as
a
technologist,
maybe
I'm
ahead
of
the
game
there
that
I
know
that
there
are
other
things
than
the
basic.
What
did
I
eat
today?
What
did
I
drink
today?
Who
was
I
around?
Am
I
sick?
I
look
into
it
a
little
bit
deeper
and
I
think
we've
had.
F
I
really
ask
you
guys
to
take
a
look
at
this
and
while
we
might
not
have
conclusive
evidence
on
the
science
side
about
this,
we
have
quite
a
bit
of
of
evidence
to
suggest
there
is
a
probable
cause
of
cancers
of
infertility
issues
and
others.
I
have
symptoms,
like
I
said,
and
with
that
all
said,
I
think
we
should
all
step
back
and
consider
that
before
we
move
forward-
or
this
is
going
to
be
like
the
cigarettes
of
the
70s.
L
L
M
L
You
know
a
few
of
my
hives
to
be
placed
under
small
cell
facilities
to
do
experiment
and
if
I'm
wrong,
you
know
we
all
will
see
and
confirm,
but
if
I'm
right
that
it
will
be
clear
indication
it.
But
by
the
way
it
doesn't
take
long,
it
takes
just
a
probably
few
short
weeks
or
maybe
maximum
couple
of
months.
L
You
have
this
power.
We
really
are
begging
you
to
at
least
put
everything
on
hold
and
you
have
the
legal
authority
from
the
two
highest
courts
of
the
united
states.
Please
exercise
your
rights,
protect
our
bees,
protect
our
trees,
protects
our
people,
don't
let
the
face
of
thousand
dogs
be
changed
forever.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Vadim.
C
I'm
heather
swanson.
I
am
a
35
plus
year
resident
of
thousand
oaks
newbury
park
community.
I
have
five
children.
I've
raised
in
this
community
ages,
10
to
25.,
I'm
one
of
five
siblings
that
have
also
been
raised
the
last
35
years
in
this
community.
So
I
do
have
a
big
stake
here.
I
feel
that
it's
a
beautiful
community
as
we're
all
very
fortunate
to
reside
here.
C
C
C
I
have
a
collection
of
websites,
the
cell
phone
task
force,
the
cancer.gov
govtech.com
healthimpactnews.com,
a
plethora
really
of
studies,
the
eh
trust.org
of
studies
that
have
been
shown
with
just
alarming
evidence
showing
that
these
larger
waves,
which
actually
are
emitted
by
the
5g
modified
small
cell
towers,
modifications
to
many
light
poles
that
have
already
been
done
in
our
community.
C
I'm
still
trying
to
determine
I've
requested
it
before
through
emails
to
the
to
the
city
and
so
forth,
to
request
verification
as
or
clarification
as
to
whether
our
city
has
approved
these
installations
they're
on
orchard
road,
they're.
Next
to
my
son's
school
at
sequoia
they're
at
newberry
park
high
school
to
my
other
son,
their
walnut
elementary,
my
other
son
and
they've,
just
been
placed
at
dos
vientos
park
where
my
son
plays
soccer
every
weekend
and
it
is
where
he
practices
under
at
orchard
park
every
weekend.
I
want
verification.
C
I'm
requested
respectfully
requested
verification
that
those
have
been
authorized
by
our
city,
those
installations,
and
I
have
not
received
that
confirmation,
and
so
you
know
it's
really
a
matter
of
just
really
clarifying
that
those
have
been
authorized
our
tax
dollars.
You
know
that
have
paid
for
them.
C
You
know
I
want
to
be
able
to
track
where
that
authorization
is
coming
from,
because
if
it
is
a
matter
of
the
fcc
basically
infringing
on
our
local
rights,
then
that
is,
you
know
the
path
of
recourse,
and
if
it
is
the
city
that's
authorizing
and
improving
these
these
installations,
then
that
is,
is
the
path
of
recourse.
So
I
as
well
second,
the
motion
for
an
environmental
impact
study,
anything
that
we
can
do
to
basically
halt
slow
down,
set
back
the
requirements
for
these
5g
installations
that
are
impacting
our
children.
C
My
son
as
well
has
just
tonight
you
know
he's
having
stomachaches,
you
know
I
I
don't
know.
Of
course
you
can't
draw
a
clear
correlation,
but
my
daughter
had
extreme
headaches
after
she
came
from
actually
had
not
been
in
this
area.
She
came
from
her
internship
in
san
diego
and
she
went
to
this.
C
What
I'm
saying
is
I
am
requesting
that
the
city
do
whatever
that
they
can
to
basically
halt
and
slow
down
the
5g
installations.
Thank
you
very
much.
E
Hello,
this
letter
is
on
behalf
of
rebecca
and
john
tatum
17-year
residence
of
newbury
park.
We
have
eight
cell
towers
and
eleven
antenna
within
two
miles
of
our
home.
Now
that
is
a
distance
that
is
significant,
since
just
one
cell
tower
will
radiate
up
to
two
miles.
E
We
have
removed
from
our
home
all
smart
technology
and
wi-fi
our
cell
phone
wi-fi
was
turned
off
and
it
remains
in
use,
but
on
airplane
mode
often
there
is
a
tremendous
difference
in
our
home.
Due
to
the
changes
we
have
made,
which
was
not
easy
once
you
invite
smart
technology
into
your
home,
the
companies
who
provide
these
services
like
tv
phone
and
internet
are
remiss
to
remove
it.
E
E
Here
is
why
I'm
writing
to
you,
my
thousand
oak
city
council.
The
approval
for
two
cell
towers
within
1500
feet
of
our
home
will
change
everything
that
radiation
at
that
close
range.
24
7
will
make
our
lives
here
impossible.
We
will
have
no
choice
but
to
move
move.
My
husband
is
on
hospice
and
I
am
disabled.
E
E
We
currently
live
in
a
rent-controlled
senior
park
that
has
not
been
watched
very
closely
because
we
pay
close
to
a
thousand
dollars
a
month
in
rent
when
we
were
promised
it
would
not
exceed
our
baseline
of
less
than
700
due
to
rent
control.
We
were
duped
now
being
dripped
is
one
thing.
Having
towers
here
is
another,
but
even
a
third
issue
is
that
now
they
are
hra
know
we're
fighting
the
towers
they.
E
Our
hra
will
not
provide
any
service
to
our
home,
even
though
it
is
needed
and
paid
for,
and
it
is
their
duty
to
perform
it.
They
simply
don't.
We
are
not
sorry
one
bit
for
fighting
for
the
health
and
welfare
of
all
living
things.
In
thousand
oaks,
we
will
pay
the
price
for
speaking
truth
just
know
how
difficult
life
has
become
when
we
worked
hard
paid
off
our
home
and
intended
to
retire
at
newbury
park.
However,
our
retirement
is
far
from
safe
miles
from
peaceful.
E
He
lives
in
another
community
entirely.
Yet
we
are
left
paying
a
grant
to
be
treated
out
of
proper
management
of
our
issues
and
to
be
radiated
at
every
corner
from
every
direction.
24
7,
with
the
approval
of
those
in
charge.
What
a
travesty
of
justice,
what
a
nightmare!
Welcome
to
my
world
and
please
understand
the
fear,
the
heartache
and
the
disappointment
in
management
that
we
are
suffering
it.
N
N
Am
directing
them
at
you,
sir,
and
I'm
also
referencing
the
man
who
is
present.
Who
has
the
reports
that
I'm
asking
for,
and
I'm
asking
the
city
council
who
has
the
ability
to
issue
legislative
subpoenas
why
you
have
not
demanded
the
reports
why
the
county
is
holding
a
mental
health
task
force
now
this
county
body?
But
yet
it
is
immune
from
the
brown
act.
There
are
no
public
meetings
for
us
to
attend.
There
are
no
agendas.
There
are
no
reports.
Everything
is
kept
secret.
N
N
That
does
lead
one
to
believe
who
signed
off
on
the
plans
for
the
certificate
of
occupancy
for
the
restaurant,
where,
if
somebody
had
to
get
out
the
back,
because
there
was
a
fire
or
a
guy
shooting
people
at
the
front,
they
had
to
jump
14
feet
off
the
ground.
You're
looking
at
11
wrongful
death
lawsuits.
Is
that
why
the
reports
are
being
concealed?
N
N
Why
am
I
asking
the
questions?
Instead
of
you,
people?
You
should
be
demanding
answers
from
these
people.
It's
our
neighbors
that
were
killed
and
you
are
not
asking
them
the
questions
that
we
need.
The
answers
for,
how
does
that
happen?
10
cops
and
they
all
run.
Nobody
fired
a
shot
now
sergeant
helas.
He
went
in
by
himself.
N
N
N
H
Hey
how's
it
going.
This
is
like
one
of
the
first
times.
I've
ever
done
something
like
this.
So
sorry,
if
I'm
a
little
nervous.
B
H
18
years
old,
I
went
to
newbury
park
high
school,
and
I'm
here
talking
about
5g,
I'm
actually
electrosensitive,
and
I
can
feel
the
signals
in
my
hand,
and
I
could
actually
hear
high-pitched
frequencies
when
I
go
next
to
5g
routers.
One
of
my
friends
is
actually
in
the
hospital
for
this.
He
went
to
go,
get
something
removed
from
valencia
braincyst
and
then
now
he
finds
out
that
he
has
two
more
tumors
in
his
brain.
He
has
to
go
to
las
robles.
H
His
name
sebastian
roy,
oh,
he
can't
make
it
today
because
he's
at
the
hospital,
but
I
have
a
problem
with
this
technology
personally,
because
I
believe
that
is
unconstitutional
and
it
violates
laws
that
we
created
all
the
way
back
in
world
war
ii.
This
is
human
experimentation.
There
has
been
an
experimentation
done
in
the
la
times.
Did
something
on
it.
It
showed
that
rats
got
tumors
from
this
technology.
Why
are
we
letting
something
like
this
be
deployed?
H
Isn't
that
human
experimentation
like
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you
guys
are
the
ones
who
are
gonna,
have
to
go
to
sleep
at
night,
knowing
that
you
might
have
screwed
the
next
generation.
But
that's
just
me,
that's
just
my
personal
belief
and
I
believe,
there's
a
lot
of
things.
I
know
the
fire
department
actually
agrees
with
this
too,
because
san
francisco
actually
just
did
a
thing
about
their
firefighters,
about
their
effects
on
5g,
and
I
know
that
l.a
county
did,
and
that
was
all
the
way
back
in
2g
reporting,
neurological
damage.
H
Who
knows
what
this
is
doing
to
our
bodies?
I
don't,
but
I
know
what
the
science
and
the
peer
review
literature
is
said
and
from
what
that
said,
it
is
harmful
and
dangerous.
There
are
things
called
like
active
denial.
Technology
is
actually
a
military
technology
for
crowd
control
and
it's
the
same
thing
that
5g
uses
it's
radio
millimeter
waves.
H
I
know
it
sounds
crazy,
but
just
do
the
research
for
yourself,
because,
where
I
got
this
was
from
the
department
of
defense
website
and
all
this
stuff
is
very
real
and
it's
very
out
there-
and
I
know
you
guys-
are
like.
Oh,
these
are
the
fcc
laws,
they're
federal.
Well,
then,
why
did
california
legalize
weed?
Because
weed
was
federally
illegal?
Why
can't
we
do
the
same
thing
with
5g
and
make
it
our
own
choice,
bring
it
into
our
own
hands.
B
Cool,
you
may
have
been
nervous,
but
you
were
very
articulate
good
job
man
yeah
mr
powers,.
O
Thanks
so
much
mayor
mccoy,
just
a
couple
quick
comments,
since
we
haven't
responded
to
5g
of
late
just
for
anybody,
that's
new
in
the
audience
on
this
particular
topic.
We
obviously
do
recognize
this
as
an
emotional
issue
for
some
of
you,
regardless
about
how
you
feel
about
the
issue,
it's
not
the
purview
of
this
city
council.
O
They
do
not
set
federal
telecommunications
policy,
nor
do
they
govern
nor
support
5g,
fcc
regulations
that
many
of
you
spoke
about
tonight.
They
affect
every
single
city
in
america,
not
just
thousand
oaks,
not
just
camarillo,
but
every
city
in
america,
some
of
you
reference
health
health
impacts
and
without
going
into
detail
on
that,
you
can
read,
read
up
on
our
our
website
at
teox.org
wireless,
the
fact
that
the
fcc
specifically
disallows,
that
from
being
something
that's
considered
by
local
entities.
O
You
many
of
you
mentioned
this,
and
I
encourage
you
to
continue
to
focus
on
it.
The
path
of
recourse
is
the
fcc
fcc
sets
this
policy,
and
that
is
where
you
can
have
an
impact
to
be
clear.
Some
of
you
mentioned
current
installations.
There
are
currently
no
small
cell
or
5g
installations
in
our
community.
No
under
our
new
ordinance,
nothing
has
been
approved
or
processed
period
and
that's
a
fact.
O
As
one
speaker
mentioned,
the
wireless
industry
actually
utilized
our
ordinance
and
for
those
of
you
that
don't
think
that
our
ordinance
is
written
to
the
strictest
possible
measure
within
the
law.
They
actually
used
our
ordinance
in
a
petition
to
the
fcc
in
saying
that
this
is
a
city
overstepping
its
boundaries,
so
our
ordinance
was
the
model
ordinance
that
the
wireless
industry
put
forward
as
one
that
is
an
overreach.
O
So,
as
you
know,
it's
an
important
point
for
all
of
you
that
are
that
are
contending
that
this
city
council
is
not
doing
the
best
of
its
ability
within
the
confines
of
the
law.
Speakers
mentioned
a
couple
cases
I'll.
Let
the
attorney
noonan
mention
those
two
dot.
Org
wireless,
as
I
mentioned
on
the
outset.
I
know
this
is
an
emotional
issue
for
many
of
you,
regardless
of
how
you
feel
about
it.
O
It's
not
the
purview
of
this
council,
it's
a
purview
of
the
fcc,
and
I
encourage
you
to
continue
your
efforts
and
focus
there.
We
certainly
are-
and
I
know
city
attorney
tracy
nina-
will
mention
that
we
have
recently
even
filed
a
petition
to
keep
the
pressure
on
the
fcc
on
this
issue.
J
Yes,
thank
you
just
just
to
kind
of
follow
up
with
the
city
manager's
comments
again.
The
fcc
did
specifically
mention
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
as
a
city
that
they
believe
our
ordinance
actually
impacts
their
ability
that
we've
overstepped
what
the
federal
regulations
allow.
In
response,
however,
the
city
has
joined
with
other
cities
in
opposition
to
this
recent
fcc
filing,
but
this
recent
fcc
filing,
I
think
one
of
the
speakers
indicated
that
we
needed
to
make
changes
to
our
ordinance
based
on
that
fcc
filing
and
that's
not
that's,
not
accurate.
J
We
don't
need
to
make
any
changes
to
it.
It's
also
really
important
for
you
all
to
know
that
the
fcc
is
actually
considering
additional
regulations
taking
away
even
more
local
control.
So
it's
really
important
for
everyone
who
has
concerns
over
these
fcc
regulations
to
contact
your
federal
legislators
opposing
any
additional
fcc
regulations.
J
J
That
is
the
legislation
that
took
away
that
took
away
all
cities,
ability
to
consider
health
impacts
from
rf
emissions.
They
specifically
granted
all
aspects
with
respect
to
health
and
rf
emissions
were
delegated
to
the
fcc,
and
that
happened
back
in
1996.,
so
the
only
entity
that
can
change.
That
is
the
federal
government.
J
So
if,
if
you
know,
as
as
the
city
manager
indicated,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
passion
with
respect
to
the
concerns
over
the
health
and
safety
and
welfare
of
our
families
and
our
children
and
our
and
our
residents
those
those
concerns,
we
really
need
to
be
focusing
that
attention.
On
the
federal
on
our
federal
legislators,
we've
not
received
any
communications
for
persons
from
persons
over
concerns
about
coming
to
city
council
meetings.
J
You
know
I've
indicated
in
past
city
council
meetings.
We
do
have
a
process
in
place.
If
anyone
seeks
assistance,
they
just
need
to
call
the
city
clerk's
office.
However,
today
no
one
has
requested
the
city
to
provide
this.
And
finally,
there
was
a
mention
by
a
couple
of
speakers
as
to
an
august
9
ruling
and
a
california
supreme
court
ruling,
but
my
office
has
been
working
with
our
consultant
and
we've
also
personally
reviewed
those
cases.
J
One
of
the
cases
basically
says
that
you
can
consider
aesthetic
impacts.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
rf
emissions
safety,
just
aesthetic
impacts
which
has
no
bearing
on
our
ordinance,
the
other
one.
The
the
august
9th
ruling
dealt
with
the
consideration
of
location
requirements
on
native
american
sites,
and
that
case,
although
it
doesn't
have
any
impact
on
our
ordinance.
J
I
will
tell
you
that,
from
my
perspective
and
from
other
attorneys
perspectives
and
other
cities
perspectives,
we're
hopeful
that
the
language
in
that
case
can
be
used
in
the
lawsuit.
That's
been
challenged
in
the
ninth
circuit,
so
we
will
definitely
keep
you
posted
on
that
again.
Go
to
our
website
for
updated
information.
J
B
P
P
P
P
P
This
table
summarizes
the
report,
the
first
column.
It
shows
the
seven
constituents
that
were
detected
above
these
public
health
calls.
The
second
column
shows
the
units
of
measurement.
The
third
column
shows
the
enforceable
standards
which,
when
they're
developed,
do
take
into
account
health
risk
treatment,
feasibility
treatment
costs
and
the
cost
of
providing
water.
P
The
fourth
column
shows
the
levels
at
which
these
constituents
were
detected.
As
you
can
see,
there's
a
lot
of
them
that
has
the
nd
there.
So
over
the
last
three
years
of
water
quality
data
reviewed,
there
was
times
where
these
constituents
were
not
detected,
but
there
were
times
where
it
was
in
the
times
that
they
were.
You
can
see
that
they
are
well
below
the
enforceable
standards
on
the
fifth
column
is
the
public
health
goals
themselves
and
a
lot
of
those
are
set
to
zero,
if
not
close
to
zero.
P
The
report
conclusions
are
all
enforceable,
drink
and
water
standards
are
met
consistently
year
after
year.
The
city
does
not
have
treatment
facilities
to
further
reduce
these
constituents
that
were
detected
above
public
health
goals.
Further
treatment
is
costly
and
could
have
negative
impacts
on
other
constituents.
P
B
You,
council
doesn't
appear,
we
have
any
questions
up.
I
spoke
to
you
soon,
council,
member
engler.
I
Thank
you,
mayor
jess.
Can
you
go
a
little
bit
into
the
enforceable
non-enforceable
language
there?
It's
a
little
confusing,
I
think,
especially
to
the
general
public.
What
what
does
enforceable
mean?
What
does
non-enforceable
mean.
P
Sure
so
the
enforceable
standards
are
the
ones
that
are
developed
to
ensure
safety
of
water
supply,
but
also
make
the
water
affordable
and
the
treatment
is
feasible.
The
non-enforceable,
which
are
these
public
health
goals
are
there
is
zero
health
risk
associated
at
those
levels
which
you
saw.
A
lot
of
them
are
zero,
but
treatment
down
to
zero
is
is
difficult
with
analytical
techniques
a
lot
of
times
you
can't
get
to
zero,
but
they
set
these
goals
to
show
that
there
is
zero
health
square
risk
after
drinking
water
for
your
entire
lifetime.
P
But
it's
still
it's
safe
and
it's,
let's
see
sorry
so
the
enforceable
goals.
They
are
the
ones
that
if
we
do
go
over
those
limits,
then
we
do
have
to
notify
the
state
immediately
where
the
public
health
goals,
if
we
do
go
over
those
like
these
ones.
Here
we
only
have
to
report
on
those
every
three
years,
because
there's
no
health
risks
associated
with
it.
I
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
mayor
pro
tem,
madam
prepared
to
make
a
motion.
Okay,
let's
see
if
that
was
the
same
desire
of
council
member
bill
de
la
pena.
It.
P
Some
of
them
are
set
by
the
state
office
of
environmental,
health
and
hazard
assessment.
So
it's
a
state
agency
and
then,
if
they
aren't
developed
by
the
state,
they're
state
developed
by
the
federal
epa.
P
They
probably
should
be
changed.
It
is
a
kind
of
an
oddity
of
a
of
a
goal
of
a
regulation
where
again
to
treat
down
to
zero.
If
you
treat
one
constituent
down
to
zero,
then
almost
everything
will
be
treated
down
to
zero.
So
now,
you'll
have
pure
water,
essentially,
which
also
isn't
healthy
for
its
aggressive
water.
So
you'd
have
to
add
minerals
back
to
it.
So
having
goal
set
at
zero,
yeah
is
not
very
practical.
P
We
could
contact
the
state,
our
state
drinking
water
division,
engineer
in
carpenteria
and
ask
him
what
recourse
we
can
do
to
make
make
some
changes
to.
This
is.
O
O
O
Some
of
these
goals
are
actually
set
below
detection
technology.
We
can't
even
we
can't
even
measure
down
that
that
low,
so
you're
you're
kind
of
doing
what
what
we
do,
which
is.
We
wonder.
Why
are
these
there?
What
good
do
they
really
do
and
from
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
making
an
impact
on
these?
O
I
would
say
that
these
are
not
out
there
to
they're
they're
only
required
for
us
to
address
this
every
three
years.
That's
actually
we're
the
only
state
that
even
requires
that
the
goals
are.
O
B
Thank
you
councilmember.
Since
we
do
have
a
motion,
we
need
to
close
the
hearing
first,
so
madame
clerk,
if
he
would
close
the
hearing.
R
Vote
well
hold
on
there.
I'm
just
going
to
say
that
to
take
away.
This
whole
thing
is
that
the
water
here
in
south
thousand
oaks
is
safe,
very
safe,
I'm
drinking
it
right
now,
and
here
here
it
exceeds
all
state
and
federal
requirements
for
safe
drinking
water.
There's
no
enforceable
levers
levels
of
contaminants
and
we
import
all
that
water,
basically
all
water
from
metropolitan
water
district.
They
test
the
water.
Then
it
goes
to
cayegas
they
test
the
water.
Then
it
goes
to
us
and
we
test
the
water.
R
So
it's
tested
three
times
and,
as
you
said,
jay
we're
the
only
state
in
the
union
that
requires
a
triennial
report
like
this.
So
rest
assured,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
we
have
very
safe
drinking
water,
and
with
that
I
will
remove
the
that
we
accept
the
triannual
water
quality
public
health
goals
report.
F
F
Financial
plans
are
updated
every
two
years
and
a
cost
of
service
study
every
four
to
five
years,
alternating
between
wastewater
and
water.
The
purpose
of
these
studies
is
to
perform
a
comprehensive
review
of
the
city's
utility
funds
operating
in
capital
budgets,
look
at
the
cost
of
imported
water
and
determine
appropriate
revenue
and
rate
adjustments.
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
When
we
evaluate
the
water
rate
adjustment
history,
we
see
larger
adjustment
percentages
each
year.
This
is
primarily
due
to
the
ever-increasing
cost
of
imported
water.
You
may
recall
that
the
2019
adjustment
of
2
shown
here
on
this
slide,
was
less
than
the
2017
proposed
financial
plan
adjustment
in
fall
of
last
year,
council
lowered
rates
based
on
the
actual
imported
water
rates
being
less
than
originally
projected
the
water
financial
plan
recommends
a
one
percent
adjustment
to
fix
and
commodity
rates,
plus
a
pass-through
adjustment
resulting
in
the
proposed
three
and
four
percent
adjustments.
You
see
here.
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
This
chart,
created
by
kygest
municipal
water
district,
shows
the
cost
of
imported
water,
the
most
significant
impact
to
our
water
rates,
which
is
expected
to
increase
at
about
three
to
four
percent
per
year.
This
helps
to
explain
why
pasture
rates
are
expected
to
increase
similar
to
wastewater.
The
water
fund
is
projected
to
remain
in
good
standing.
F
F
F
F
F
Q
Thank
you,
mayor
mccoy.
I
have
a
quick
question.
The
proposed
rates
are
there,
the
ones
that
are
being
used
in
the
weight
rate
comparison
chart
to
other
cities
are
those
the
proposed
rates.
Q
Are
okay
and
after
the
proposed
rates
take
effect?
How
would
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
compare
to
the
other
purveyors.
Q
O
I
don't
know
about
guru,
but
both
of
the
other
two
major
water
purveyors
in
the
city,
california,
american
water
and
cal
water
service
company
are,
in
their
rate
cases
as
well.
They
do
theirs
every
three
years,
cal
water
service,
which
serves
west
lake
and
north
ranch
they
filed
last
year
in
july
and
cal-am,
which
serves
primarily
newbury
park
kind
of
western
part
of
the
city
filed
just
this
past
july
for
their
rate
case.
So
those
are
going
forward
and
they
each
have
different
proposals
at
this
time.
O
Those
will
play
out
over
the
next
year
or
two
and
we'll
certainly
report
back
as
as
those
decisions
come
down,
but
yes,
their
their
rates,
their
water
costs
will
go
up
as
well
in
those
service
areas.
R
I
just
I
have
to
say
we
are
great
waste
water
treaters,
I'm
telling
you
hill
canyon's
incredible.
We
treat
guru
spurgeon.
What
do
we
treat
10
million
gallons
a
day?
Is
it
oh.
R
But
we
treat
it
and
it's
so
pure
and
it's
so
clean
that
it
flows
out
into
a
creek
out
in
front
of
hill
canyon,
the
front
re
redoubles,
the
groundwater
farmers
draw
for
it
and
flows
all
the
way
to
the
ocean.
So
we
do
a
great
service
for
the
for
the
region,
and
this
is
a
very
good
example
of
what
good
planners
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
are.
Unlike
some
cities
that
get
behind
on
this,
and
all
of
a
sudden
have
to
raise
the
rates
precipitously
we
stay
up
with
it.
R
Every
year
we
make
incremental
raises
to
take
into
account
our
capital
improvements
that
we
need
and
to
recover
our
costs.
But
we
never,
you
know,
raise
rates
precipitously,
so
it
really
impacts
the
residents
and
I'll
just
say
one
other
quick
thing.
R
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
report
we
import
100
of
our
water
about
95
of
it
from
metropolitan
water
district,
but
we
are
very
close
to
working
on
finishing
that
well
in
in
the
golf
course
that
draws
on
our
our
ground
water
that
the
re,
the
cattle
ranchers
used
to
do
decades
ago.
So
now
that
groundwater's
all
filled
up.
It's
within
three
feet
of
the
surface
three
feet
of
the
surface,
so
we're
going
to
start
to
draw
on
that.
R
We
have
to
clean
it
up
a
little
bit,
but
it
could
very
well
give
us
about
10
of
our
water
supply.
So
it's
an
exciting
move
coming
forward
anyway,
great
motion,
very
lengthy.
B
B
Zero,
thank
you.
I
saw
the
picture.
I
figured
assume
it
all
right
item,
8b
residential
capacity
allocation,
an
initiation
of
general
plan,
amendment
4
project
at
1872,
newberry,
road
mark
town,
community
development,
director.
Take
it
away.
T
A
request
to
allocate
residential
capacity
to
a
project
site
located
at
1872,
newbury
road
and
specifically
the
request
before
you
is
three-parted
first-
is
to
allocate
218
dwelling
units
of
city-wide
measure
e
residential
capacity
to
the
concept
for
you,
second
and
related
to
that.
If
you
do
opt
to
allocate
such
capacity,
then
staff
was
recommended.
You
initiate
a
general
plan
amendment
to
change
the
land,
use
which
I
will
talk
about
momentarily
and
then
finally,
to
allow
concurrent
processing
of
entitlements
with
legislative
actions.
T
T
This
image
shows
the
development
pattern
on
and
nearby
the
property,
at
least
as
of
about
probably
two
years
ago,
you
can
see
to
the
west
here,
there's
a
commercial
center.
This
is
the
kohl's
department,
store
that
anchors,
that
that
property
and
then
to
the
east
is
another
commercial
center
and
then
to
the
south.
As
I
think
the
council
well
knows,
there
is
a
residential
community,
varying
densities.
T
T
T
T
T
T
The
school
itself
was
attended
by
children
of
many
early
settlers
in
the
area,
including
the
kelly
family
itself,
for
whom
the
adjacent
street
is
named
and
also
the
buildings
were
the
work
of
a
prominent
architect.
In
fact,
ventura
county's,
first
architect
who,
who
designed
a
number
of
notable
structures
in
the
in
the
county,
including
libby
bowl
and
the
city
of
ventura's
city
hall,.
T
So
a
little
bit
of
background,
it's
really
been
about
a
solid
two-year
process
to
get
to
this
point
tonight.
T
T
None
of
those
commercial
concepts
according
to
the
applicant
has
or
did
move
forward,
and
so
the
conclusion
was
reached.
Really
a
mix
of
commercial
and
residential
is
the
most
appropriate
and
viable
use
for
the
property
and
the
actual
project
before
you,
the
concept
based
on
that
conclusion
was
submitted
in
late
may.
T
T
Of
those
there
would
be
26
set
aside
for
those
with
affordable
income
limits,
and
also
the
unit
mix
would
include
studios.
One
bedrooms,
two
bedrooms
about
two-thirds
of
the
total
would
be
the
studios
and
what
bedrooms,
which
would
provide
an
opportunity
for
entry-level
renters,
that
that
residential
component
is
basically
all
of
these
buildings
that
you
see
here,
sort
of.
T
Based
on
that
that
concept,
the
proposed
land
use
change
is
from
commercial
to
commercial
and
residential
commercial
residential
is
a
category
in
our
general
plan.
It
would
be
appropriate
for
this
site
because
the
site
is
planned
to
house
both
commercial
and
residential,
rather
than
all
of
one
or
the
other.
According
to
our
general
plan,
policies,
use
of
the
commercial
residential
land
use
category
requires
a
specific
plan,
and
that
is
what
we
are
recommending
that
you
consider
for
this
project.
T
More
specifically,
this
is
how
that
commercial,
residential
concept
breaks
out
the
commercial
area,
as
I
noted
a
few
minutes
ago,
is
up
here
in
the
northeast
corner
of
the
property
that
comprises
about
almost
two
and
a
half
acres.
The
balance
of
the
property,
including
the
historic
buildings
and
and
the
residential
area,
is
a
little
bit
over
seven
acres.
T
We
are
recommending
that
this
be
considered
for
high
density
residential,
which
allows,
under
the
general
plan
up
to
30
units
per
net
acre.
The
proposal
before
you
tonight
is
approximately
29
dwelling
units
per
acre.
I
should
note
that,
even
though
the
applicant
has
an
affordable
component
to
the
project,
they
are
not
requesting
a
density
bonus.
T
T
The
applicant,
as
I
noted,
is
requesting
210
units
so
a
little
bit
less
than
the
maximum,
which
is
not
uncommon
in
these
types
of
measuring
analyses.
T
What
you
have
before
you
is
an
early
concept,
and
it's
intended
to
get
it
in
front
of
you
so
that
you
can
weigh
in
on
it
rather
than
weighing
in
on
it
at
the
very
tail
end
of
the
process.
After
a
lot
of
time
and
and
effort
has
been
expended,
the
project
design
before
you,
it
is
a
concept,
it's
likely
that
it
will
be
modified
to
some
degree
going
forward,
but
the
the
cap
that
you
would
put
on
it
tonight
through
the
measuring
allocation
does
limit
the
density.
T
T
T
We
look
at
how
the
project
strives
to
meet
state
mandates
for
housing,
and
then
we
also
look
at
broad
community
benefits,
not
so
much
to
the
potential
future
residents,
but
to
the
broader
community.
T
T
There
are
also
park
and
open
space
areas
nearby
michael
park
here
to
the
west
stagecoach
park
here,
stagecoaching
park
here
to
the
to
the
east
and
then
eventually
park
open
space
to
the
south
at
the
lower
part
of
this
image.
T
T
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
I
should
also
note
that
the
the
grading
design
would
result
in
a
the
the
pad
for
the
property
being
significantly
lower
than
the
adjacent
residential
to
the
south,
which
rises
up
as
you
head
from
from
west
to
east.
There's.
Also,
a
pretty
significant
separation
between
the
proposed
buildings
and
the
southernmost
property
line
as
well.
T
Another-
and
this
is
our
last
slide
on
on
design
quality,
but
another
set
of
observations.
The
concept
includes
four
different
park:
slash
recreation
areas.
As
shown
in
this
image
outlined
in
the
red
dots.
There's,
a
small
park
lit
up
near
up
near
newbury
road,
there's,
one
on
the
west
side,
adjacent
to
east
kelly,
there's
one
proposed
in
the
south
center
of
the
property
and
there's
a
pool
complex
further
to
the
south,
and
those
would
all
be
obviously
available
for
residents
and
then
the
architecture
is
interesting.
I
think
it's
appropriate.
T
T
This
happens
to
look
southwest
from
newbury
road,
so
what
you're
looking
at
is
actually
the
proposed
hotel
here.
That's
this
this
area
and
then
that
grades
directly
into
the
residential
and
then
grades
into
the
historic
buildings
at
the
corner.
T
This
is
a
view
looking
southeasterly
from
newbury
road,
so
these
are
the
historic
buildings
in
the
foreground.
Schoolhouse
here
auditorium
there
and
then
residential
behind
it.
T
T
T
There
is
a
toy
on
right
here
and
about
in
the
middle
of
the
property
eight
inches
in
in
in
in
trunk
diameter,
also
of
protected
status,
and
then
there
are
five
oak
trees
here
along
this
bank
and
they
are
comparatively
small
but
they're
all
protected
status,
ranging
as
noted
here
from
three
inches
to
nine
inches
in
trunk
diameter
there's
also
two
larger
oaks:
each
12
inches
in
diameter.
T
T
As
I
mentioned
early
on
26,
affordable
units,
which
would
include
13,
low
and
13
very
low
income
units
and
those
are
defined
as
50
and
80
percent
of
area
median
income
that
will
meet
almost
a
quarter
of
our
current
outstanding
arena
need
which
currently
is
56
low
income
and
64
very
low
income
units
and
those,
hopefully,
would
be
able
to
be
met
before
we
submit
our
next
housing
element
in
the
fall
of
2021..
T
So
finally,
we
come
to
community
benefits.
That
is
what
are
the
broad
benefits
of
this
project
and
I
think,
there's
basically
three
one.
It
provides
over
180
market
rate
units
and
clearly
that's
that's
a
need
in
the
community,
regardless
of
state
mandates.
T
T
The
concept
before
you,
I
think
is,
is
consistent
with
at
least
two
two
one
goal,
and
one
objective
that
you
have
laid
out,
and
this
is
one
of
one
of
council's
goals
and
that
is
to
support
high
quality,
revitalization
projects
in
part
along
the
new
brave
road
itself
and
then
to
support
production
of
long-term,
affordable
housing
in
the
community
and
then
in
terms
of
your
current
one-year
priorities.
One
of
those
top
10
is
to
try
to
address
the
state
mandated
regional
housing
need
targets.
T
So
next
steps
should
you
so
decide
to
allow
this
to
go
forward
would
be
the
real
beginning
of
the
of
the
formal
process,
pre-application
typically
resulting
in
some
minor
changes
to
an
a
to
a
design
and
then
the
formal
application.
I
won't
go
through
all
these
components,
but
clearly
there's
there
are
many
moving
parts
to
that
that
application,
including
the
specific
plan
and
then
based
on
that
the
environmental
review,
would
be
conducted
planning
commission
would
review
it,
give
you
the
recommendation
and
then
you
would
have
the
final
action
on
the
project.
T
B
We'll
receive
counts
questions
from
the
council,
but
first
mr
powers
would
like
to
speak.
O
Just
really
quickly,
because
you
know
we
we
don't
have
many
of
these
pre-screens
process
is
still
comparatively
new
for
the
city
council,
but
I
think
it
always
bears
mentioning
for
those
that
are
watching
at
home.
And
here
in
the
audience,
while
it
may
seem
like
a
project
proposal,
has
just
arrived
forward.
O
So
there
have
been
a
variety
of
iterations
contemplated
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
from
mr
town
and
his
team
and
working
hand
in
hand
with
the
applicant
and
their
team,
in
a
spirit
of
cooperation,
to
try
to
refine
a
project
that
met
with
planning
staff,
support
which
is
what's
before
you
this
evening.
So
it's
just
important
for
me
to
remind
the
council
that
there's
a
lot
of
work
and
effort
that
has
gone
into
this
to
date
and
so
that
the
community
understands
that
just
for
context.
Thanks.
Q
Thank
you,
mayor
mccoy.
I
know
this
has
been
quite
a
while
in
making
as
the
city
manager
mentioned
and
we
were
off
to
a
rough
start,
a
little
bit
with
the
preservation
of
timber
school,
but
I
wanted
to
go
back
to
the
protected
trees.
I
was
under
the
impression
when
I
met
with
the
applicant-
and
maybe
I
can
ask
the
applicant
when
you
when
you
speak,
that
all
of
the
trees
would
be
protected
under
this
proposal.
T
Sure
so
we
identified
the
protected
trees
in
that
image
really
to
iden
to
to
lay
out
no
pun
intended
the
landscape
before
us
staff
will
work
with
the
applicant
to
protect
those
trees
in
place,
if
at
all
possible.
T
If
you
look
at
the
end,
the
site
plan,
the
walnut
tree
in
the
northeastern
corner
is
actually
within
a
planned
landscape
planter
I
mean
that
is
in
that
there's
a
plant
in
that
exact
area,
the
slope
on
the
east
side,
which
has
the
oaks
we're
hoping
to
be
able
to
protect
the
trees.
I
think
we
can
probably
protect
three
of
the
five
in
place.
The
others
two
will
make
an
effort.
T
Q
I
Thank
you
mayor.
Just
a
couple
of
questions.
It
was
the
the
site
is
now
zoned
institutional,
correct
as
it
was
at
resort
commercial.
I
The
the
hotel-
that's
planned,
120
unit,
hotels,
that
about
the
same
size
as
the
ones
that
are
in
that
general
area.
Now.
I
And
I'm
just
just
curious:
there's
there's
a
bunch
of
hotels
and
that
are
motels
in
that
area.
Is
there
a
use?
Is
there
a
need
for
more
room
space
there
that
you're,
aware
of
or
is
it
something
that
we
can
look
at.
T
So
it
we
have
about
an
80
85
occupancy
rate
for
our
local
hotels,
so
there
appears
to
be
significant
demand.
T
We
recognize
that
there
are
a
number
of
hotels,
this
particular
area,
it's
a
function
of
many
many
variables
in
part.
I
think
it's
it's
a
function
of
the
the
industrial
park
area
to
the
north
in
the
rancho
caneo
area.
T
But
having
said
that,
over
the
last
five
years,
we've
looked
at
hotel
concepts
on
at
least
three
other
properties
that
I
can
think
of
quickly
in
central
and
eastern
thousand
oaks.
So
it's
it's
really.
I
think
a
function
more
of
land
availability
than
than
anything
unique,
this
particular
site.
Although
the
proximity
to
rancho
canal,
I
think,
is
important.
I
And
there's
there's
commercial
on
either
side
of
this.
This
property
correct
one
in
the
I
call
it
the
holdren's
shopping
center
there
and
then
also
a
nicole
shopping
center.
Have
you
done
any
research
with
them
as
far
as
their
support
and
unsupported
the
project.
I
T
T
So
that's
how
how
individuals
qualify
for
one
of
these
units
and
then
the
units
themselves
cannot
exceed
a
certain
amount
which
is
set
by
the
state
and,
for
instance,
for
2019
a
two-bedroom
apartment.
The
monthly
payment
cannot
exceed
one
thousand
one
hundred
dollars,
so
that's
roughly
half
of
market
rates
and
and
that's
the
benefit
to
those
to
those
individuals
that
would
rent
those
those
units.
I
T
So
the
the
current-
let's,
let's
talk
about
a
two-person
household,
the
maximum
income
for
lower
income
resident,
would
be
67,
000
dollars
and
and
that's
based
on
a
median
for
a
four-person
household.
Obviously
we
have
a
two-person
household
in
this
table
as
well,
but
a
common
metric
is
a
four-person
household
median
income
county
ventura
current
is
97
800,
so
that's
the
median
to
which
these
income
levels
are
are
compared
and
so
again
for
an
individual,
lower
income,
making
80
percent
of
that
that
ami
maximum
income
is
58
600.
T
O
I
might
add
to
it
the
reason
there
is
complexity
to
us.
These
are
set
at
the
county
level,
they're
also
based
not
just
on
median
income,
but
the
number
of
people
within
the
household
and
so
the
max
you
could
have
at
a
one
two,
three
four
person
household.
So
that's
why
there's
a
lot
of
numbers
involved.
D
Yes,
I'd
just
like
to
go
forward
with
that
question
about
affordability.
You
say
that
there
could
be
eight
more
units
on
this.
T
So
so,
when
somebody
well,
first
of
all
under
the
city's
zoning
category,
the
applicant
could
could
request
and
try
to
fit
eight
more
units
onto
the
property.
But
under
the
density
bonus
law
based
on
the
affordable
units,
they
could
actually
request
an
additional
47
units
for
a
total
of
55..
They've
opted
not
to
do
that
and.
D
D
Yeah,
I
think
that
would
be
awfully
crowded,
but
I
do
I'm
very
interested
in
trying
to
produce
more
affordable
housing,
and
I
just
thought
that
might
be
one
way
to
do
it,
but
we're
not
getting
into
the
final
details.
This
is
just
what
the
red
light
green
light.
Yes
hearing
to
see
if
they
go
forward,
I
understand
parking
would
be
all
subterranean
is
that
it.
D
B
You
councilmember
we're
going
to
call
the
applicant.
L
Good
evening,
mayor
city
council
mark
sellers,
I'm
with
the
jackson,
titus
law
firm,
I'm
here
representing
the
applicant
daylight
thousand
oaks.
I
am
a
more
than
30-year
resident
of
thousand
oaks,
which
reminds
me
of
when
I
first
came
to
the
city.
One
of
my
first
jobs
was
here
at
city
hall,
was
to
try
and
get
this
canelo
high
school
relocated.
L
L
The
reason
we're
here
tonight
is
that
the
site
was:
here's
is
zone
commercial.
We
hired
the
world's
largest
retail
broker
to
find
tenant
possible
tenants
for
a
new
commercial
center
on
that
site.
They
worked
for
three
and
a
half
years
and
found
basically
that
the
retail
demand
is
dropping
because
of
the
internet
and
there's
this
15
foot
high
sound
wall
that
runs
in
front
of
this
property
and
one
of
the
things
I
learned
a
long
time
ago
about
commercial
viability
is
traffic.
Counts
are
very
important.
L
You
want
people
in
cars
driving
by
a
site
who
are
potential
customers
to
be
able
to
see
the
new
businesses
there.
What
everybody
said
was
when's
that
sound
wall
going
to
go
and
we
approached
caltrans.
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
them.
They
were
kind
of
surprised
by
our
request.
They
said
everybody
comes
down
here
to
caltrans
to
ask
for
new,
sound
walls.
Nobody
comes
to
us
to
ask
for
one
to
be
removed,
so
it
took
some
time
for
them
to
decide
what
they
wanted
of
the
applicant.
L
And
finally,
they
said
we
want
some
noise
studies
that,
if
the
without
that
wall,
if
those
noise
studies
show
that
there's
any
increase
in
sound
to
the
residents
to
the
south,
we're
not
going
to
allow
you
to
remove
it.
So
we
did
those
noise
studies
and,
unfortunately,
yes,
there's
going
to
be
increase
to
those
residents
to
the
south,
not
a
lot
of
increase,
but
there's
going
to
be
an
increase.
L
Cal
transcend
said
the
wall
stays,
so
we
have
now
a
commercial
site
that
with
no
viable
use,
so
we're
here
tonight
to
ask
for
the
a
use
that
is
mostly
apartments.
A
residential
use,
210
units
in
a
hotel
which
to
me
is
similar
to
a
residential
use.
The
hotel
that
we're
talking
with
is
an
upper
end,
boutique
hotel
and
they
say
their
guests,
don't
need
to
see
the
hotel
site
they
book
online.
They
book
because
of
our
reputation.
L
They've
stayed
with
us
before
they
come
back
again,
so
it
seemed
to
be
a
very
natural
mix
and
the
sound
wall
can
stay
and
probably
benefits
the
people
staying
at
the
hotel
we
another
factor
I
think
we
ought
to
mention
is
that
we
have
looked
at
the
vacancy
rates
in
that
area.
We
have
looked
at
the
hotel's
average
blended
rate
when
that
hotel
is
stabilized.
We
feel
that
it
will
generate
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
to
the
city
and
transient
occupancy
tax.
L
L
We
aren't
asking
for
a
density
bonus.
We
don't
want
any
financial
incentives
and
we're
not
asking
for
any
waiver
of
city
standards,
and
when
you
get
into
the
density
bonus
realm,
you
start
dealing
with
all
that
we'd
rather
do.
What
we
feel
is
a
well-designed
project
and
not
request
any
waivers
or
seek
any
financial
assistance.
L
I
know
that
the
general
plan
states
that
densities,
at
the
rate,
we're
proposing
should
be
projects
should
be
located
close
to
commercial
centers
and
along
the
100
101
freeway,
and
that's
exactly
what
this
project
would
provide.
These
would
be
located
very
close
to
the
on
and
off
ramps
at
ventu
park
in
orchard
road
to
the
101
and
also
close
walking
distance
to
commercial
centers
and
one
kohl's
seems
to
be
struggling.
L
L
We
also
agreed
with
the
city
that
we
were
going
to
hire
a
preservation
consultant
out
of
pasadena
to
work
with
the
transition
from
the
historic
buildings
and
the
improvements
of
these
historic
buildings
and
the
apartment
project
we
have
met
with
the
canal
valley.
Historical
society
in
my
general
reading
is
that
they're
very
supportive
of
this
project.
L
We've
talked
about
possibly
having
an
office
in
the
administration
building
for
the
historical
society
and
also
perhaps
some
display
areas
within
the
auditorium.
And
if
you
look
at
the
auditorium
right
now,
it's
it's
not
the
most
attractive
building.
It
has
some
very
old
and
beat
up
air
conditioning
units
on
the
roof.
We
intend
to
relocate
those
to
the
ground
in
smaller
units
and
basically
make
that
much
more
attractive.
L
Looking
building
and
improve
this
key
intersection
in
newbury
park,
putting
some
landscaping
there
and
getting
rid
of
the
asphalt
that's
on
that
corner
now
and
basically
beautify
this
site
and
the
bottom
line
is
without
a
viable
private
use
on
the
rest
of
the
property.
We
cannot
really
preserve
those
historic
buildings
like
they
should
be.
So
that's
what
we're
seeking
tonight
with
that,
I'm
turning
unnecessary
any
questions,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
mr
gallagher
to
talk
about
the
community
outreach.
Q
L
We
are,
we
are
going
to
attempt
to
do
that.
The
problem
is
that
we
have
a
tree
study
tree
report
that
was
done
with
a
project
that
was
a
commercial
project
more
than
a
year
ago,
and
what
we
need
to
do
is
to
take
in
we've
gone
through
a
number
of
redesigns
since
that
project
we
need
to
get
back
with
the
tree
consultant
and
see.
How
can
we
save
as
many
trees
as
possible
and
what
trees
need
to
be
can
be
relocated?
L
Q
D
Good
evening
and
thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
council
members,
I
want
to
let
I
conducted
three
types
of
outreach
on
this
project.
First,
I
conducted
outreach
to
the
neighbors
that
has
been
going
on
by
one
of
the
property
owners.
Mr
kaufman,
over
the
past
several
years,
he's
met
with
neighbors
from
a
wide
area
around
this
back,
going
back
to
the
time
when
he
originally
purchased
the
property,
and
this
past
summer
I
conducted
two
outreach
meetings
with
neighbors
from
the
kelly
road
hoa.
A
total
of
about
30
people
attended
those
two
meetings.
D
There
were
concerns
about
the
traffic
and
the
density.
How
the
apartments
and
hotels
might
change
the
nature
of
their
neighborhood.
There
were
also
a
number
of
neighbors
who
told
me
that,
given
the
emptiness
of
that
area
that
they
had
begun
to
see
a
problem
with
vagrants
in
the
area,
I
encourage
all
those
neighbors
to
attend
tonight's
meeting.
There's
one
very
specific
concern.
D
The
second
outreach,
as
mark
mentioned,
was
that
people
have
been
involved
in
historic
preservation
and
efforts,
and
those
cultural
and
historic
groups
such
as
the
stagecoaching
and
museum.
We
conducted
two
meetings
there,
I'm
especially
grateful
to
kathy
boone
for
hosting
these
meetings,
she's
going
to
speak
a
little
bit
later,
and
we're
fortunate
to
have
fortunate
to
have
mr
william
maple,
whom
many
of
you
know
helping
us
in
this
process,
he's
a
wealth
of
knowledge
on
the
history
of
the
canao
valley
and
I'm
roy
wilson,
the
architect
of
these
buildings.
D
We
discussed
in
general,
the
future
of
these
buildings
and
how
they
could
best
be
preserved
to
honor
this
special
place
in
the
history
of
the
canao
valley
and
with
the
help
of
city
staff,
don
nielsen
and
with
our
architect,
brian
polquin.
We're
on
our
way
to
develop
a
very
good
plan
for
those,
as
mark
suggested.
One
building
would
be
primarily
for
use
for
administrative
and
education
purposes
as
it
was
originally
intended,
and
the
second
building
the
auditorium
would
be
used
for
more
cultural
art,
performing
arts
and
gallery
spaces,
as
that
was
originally
intended.
D
Now,
that's
a
smaller
building
so
we'd
have
to
match
our
expectations
to
the
scale
of
the
building,
but
the
intent
is
to
use
these
for
the
public
benefit
of
the
community
and,
finally,
to
councilman
engler's
point.
I
did
outreach
to
the
surrounding
businesses,
some
of
whom
I
hope
can
make
it
tonight,
but
this
is
also
a
time
when
they're
doing
visits,
so
it
might
be
tough.
I
talked
to
two
restaurant
owners
and
the
manager
of
the
runners
world.
D
They
naturally
welcome
the
additional
business
that
the
apartment
and
hotel
occupants
would
likely
bring
and
the
sales
manager
this
is
assistant
sales
manager.
At
the
marriott
told
me
something
very
surprising.
I
thought
I
might
get
a
negative
reaction
to
him.
They
actually
welcome
more
hotels
in
that
area.
He
told
me
that
from
monday,
through
thursday
night
they're
frequently
sold
out
and
that
their
marriott
rewards
members
are
annoyed
with
them
because
they
can't
get
into
the
marriott
hotel
there.
M
My
name
is
brian
poliquin,
I'm
with
pk
architecture.
I've
actually
been
in
residence
of
thousand
oaks
for
about
28
years
I'll
just
go
through
a
couple
of
items,
really
quick.
I
got
about
six
minutes
and
hopefully
we'll
use
up
all
that,
but
anyway
the
project
was
we.
We
worked
closely
with
planning
with
to
come
up
with
a
plan
that
we
felt
was
the
the
correct
plan
for
the
organization
of
the
site.
M
It's
got
a
little
bit
of
a
urban
suburban
layout
to
it
mainly
what
it's
going
to
consist
of,
obviously,
is
the
the
apartment
units
and
the
surface
parked
hotel,
which
is
three-story
hotel.
The
units
were
going
to
be
designed
in
a
mission
revival.
M
The
impetus
for
that
mission
revival
style
was
the
the
the
old
timber
school
buildings
which
are
actually
mission
revival
buildings
actually
right
now
they
have
a
different
type
of
roof,
but
ultimately
we'll
re-roof
that,
with
the
spanish
tile,
clay,
tiles,
authentic
and
and
we'll
work
on,
the
resurfacing
of
the
building
will
work
on
a
consultant
with
a
consultant
that
deals
with
restoration.
M
I
have
done
restoration
work
before
so
we'll
work
on
the
surfacing
of
the
building
the
structure
of
the
building,
eliminating
the
ugly
mechanical
screens
on
the
the
theater
building
and
putting
mechanical
units
on
the
ground.
Probably
we
call
them
split
minis
and
things
like
that,
so
that
we
can
make
the
roof
line.
Look
more
appropriate.
M
Our
client
told
us
we
could
do
quality
architecture.
So
when
we
do
a
mission
revival
style
we're
going
to
use
some
more
interesting
forms,
we
really
look
to
a
lot
of
what's
been
done
up
in
santa
barbara,
to
create
the
forms,
the
little
chimneys
the
balconies
and
do
hard
trowel
stucco
do
a
boosted
clay,
tile
multi-color,
as
opposed
to
just
a
single
color
single
layer,
clay,
copper
detailing
to
make
the
buildings
really
authentic.
We've
worked
on
some
other
buildings
like
that,
so
we
feel
pretty
confident
that
we
can
create
a
project
like
that.
M
M
The
the
walnut
tree
in
the
back
is
actually
contained
in
a
landscape
area
and
we'll
work
through
the
whole
site
to
try
to
retain
as
many
of
the
trees
which
has
been
mentioned,
but
I
know
right
now
the
oaks,
because
that's
on
grade
as
it
goes
into
the
parklet,
so
we
don't
have
to
deal
with
a
lot
of
grading
around
those
areas,
so
those
trees
can
be
protected.
So
we
will
make
all
those
efforts
to
make
sure
we'll
have
a
landscape
architect.
There
will
be
a
tree
report.
M
All
the
appropriate
measures
will
have
to
be
done,
we'll
be
working
with
don
and
mark
to
put
together
a
project.
Obviously
that
has
to
be
appropriate.
Another
thing
to
mention
on
this
project
is:
it
does
have
quite
a
bit
of
sub
training
parking.
All
the
units
are
basically
supported
by
subtraining
parking.
We
have
guest
parking
on
surface
the
hotel
motel
or
it's
not
a
motel.
It
is
a
hotel,
is
surface
parked,
which
is
the
most
appropriate
for
that
type
of
use.
M
So
I
I
think
those
are
really
the
key
things
that
are
going
to
make
this
project
interesting.
The
two
and
three
story-
design-
I
don't
know
if
you
looked
closely
at
the
renderings-
we
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time,
trying
to
develop
the
massing
of
these
buildings.
There's
two
story
along
the
perimeter
and
three-story
internal,
so
we're
not
hitting
the
street
with
really
high
buildings,
but
letting
the
buildings
tear
us
up
and
not
overcoming
the
scale
of
the
timber
school
buildings.
M
M
It
was
interesting
that
when
we
talked
to
the
folks
in
in
these
historical
meetings
over
the
stagecoach
inn,
they
really
wanted
to
see
sort
of
a
preservation
of
newbury
park,
and
the
timber
school
buildings
represent
that
so
a
lot
of
the
way
we're
going
to
handle
the
project
is
going
to
be
sort
of
in
respect
of
those
buildings.
B
Well,
at
this
time
we're
going
to
move
on
to
our
public
speakers
and
we'll
begin
you
have
three
minutes,
you
don't
have
to
use
it
all
we'll
begin
with
robert
patterson,
followed
by
carmen
chaveres.
Does
that
mean
cool
in
spanish?
S
Good
evening,
mr
mayor
and
rest
of
the
council,
thank
you
for
your
time
tonight.
My
name
is
rob
patterson
or
robert
patterson.
I
live
on
galway
lane
and
it's
kind
of
funny
like
thinking
about
this,
there's
all
the
nimby
issues,
but
this
literally
is
our
backyard.
We
love
our
city,
my
kids
learn
to
ride
a
bike
here.
It's
where
I
became
a
homeowner.
We've
lived
there
for
me
and
my
family
about
12
years
now.
Coming
up
in
november,
we
have
many
dodger
games
where
we
watch
their
big
screen,
our
neighborhood.
S
We
love
each
other,
we're
a
small
street,
but
we
love
who
we
have
there,
and
I
appreciate
this
opportunity
just
to
dialogue
that
this
is
a
pre
meeting.
This
is
not
a
huge
vote.
My
understanding
is,
but
I
do
have
a
concern
of
the
lack
of
communication
for
us.
S
S
I
ended
up
personally
sending
out
a
letter
to
my
neighbors
just
on
galway,
just
saying
hey
this
meeting's
tonight,
I
think
I
gave
an
email
to
the
girls
up
front
of
different
different
neighbors
were
just
emailing
each
other
just
trying
to
pass
on
their
comments
and
concerns
just
because
of
the
proximity
and
just
there.
It
is
it's
a
three-story
building
90
feet
from
your
backyard,
which
is
not
a
deep
backyard.
S
Everyone
I've
talked
to
is
concerned.
Some
are
very
concerned
a
little
more
strongly
worded
emails
than
I
would
make,
but
you
get
the
idea
so
tonight's,
my
first
time
seeing
the
plan
myself
and
so
just
trying
to
learn
that
and
see
the
different
beauty.
But
some
of
the
concerns
we
have
is
a
history
concern
that
my
understanding
from
different
neighbors
is
when
the
marriott
was
built.
There
were
some
promises
made
to
our
hoa
to
build
our
own
little
like
area
that
was
never
fulfilled.
I
can't
speak
to
that.
S
That
was
before
I
moved
in
similar
with
kohl's
about
height
restrictions
on
buildings
along
that
way,
once
again,
that's
before
my
time,
moving
in
the
neighborhood,
but
there's
a
concern
of
what
promises
are
made
and
will
they
actually
be
kept
for
the
residents.
Yeah
it'd
be
nice.
If
the
businesses
next
to
us
get
more
customers,
of
course,
more
people's
more
customers,
but
what
benefit
does
it
actually
help
the
people
who
live?
Next?
To
that?
That
doesn't
seem
to
be
addressed
too
much
in
the
plan
and
the
concern
for
me
is
just
the
density.
S
I
love
neighbors.
I
welcome
neighbors,
that's
my
personality
but
218
units.
If
you're
talking
four
people
per
unit,
do
the
math
that's
in
a
very
small
block
right
there
I
lived
in
apartments
when
we
first
moved
out
here
to
thousand
oaks
and
parking
at
apartments
is
tricky.
They
give
you
about
one
parking
space
per
unit
and
every
unit
takes
about
two
or
three,
because
everyone
else
they
have
multiple
cars.
Well,
they're
not
going
to
park
on
newbury
road.
S
That's
illegal
can't
park
on
kelly
road,
so
they're
going
to
come
around
the
corner
and
park
on
our
street
and
we're
already
it
said
in
medium
density.
We
have
one
parking
spot
in
front
of
our
house
and
if
your
neighbor
has
a
car
there,
you
just
don't
get
to
park
on
the
street
in
front
of
your
house
already.
So
that's
a
huge
concern
of
just
what
does
that
look
like
for
us
yeah
and
just
a
lot
of
the
overcrowding
in
there?
So,
okay,
that's.
B
Carmen
you'll,
be
followed
by
john
freeman
good
evening
good
evening.
E
E
Let's
go
back
for
a
while
that
wall
was
built
for
the
kids
that
were
trying
to
learn
their
lessons,
that's
cool
and
they
built
it
too
long
and
the
businesses
made
caltrans
take
down
part
of
that
wall.
That's
the
truth.
Also.
E
That
area
in
newbury
park
is
very
unique
in
the
whole
freeway
corridor
from
windy
to
wisens.
There
are
no
other
areas
that
have
freeway
facing
businesses
as
we
do
in
newberry
park.
It's
a
very
wonderful
community
and
I
think
people
get
to
see
that
and
then
we
have,
of
course,
our
in
and
out
burger.
That
brings
a
lot
of
traffic.
E
E
E
When
I
around
the
time
I
moved
the
hills
of
newberry
park
were
on
fire.
There
weren't
that
many
people
living
up
in
the
hills,
but
now
there
are
so
now
the
fire
is
going
to
be
10
times
stronger
when
it
happens
again,
they're
going
to
come
down,
they're
going
to
go
to
lynn
road
and
we're
going
to
go
out
to
newbury
road
and
just
think
of
all
the
people
coming
out
there
and
all
the
people
from
kelly
from
kelly
park
trying
to
make
their
way
out
of
that
area.
It's
very
dangerous.
I
K
Good
evening,
good
evening,
william
maple
resident
newberry
park
mayor
mccoy
and
members
of
our
cultural
heritage
board,
I
apologize
up
front.
Some
of
this
may
be
redundant,
but
I'm
a
read
because
I'll
stay
on
track.
Four
years
ago
the
canadian
valley
high
school
was
rezoned
from
public
pl
to
institutional.
K
I
get
confused
because
rezoning's
been
moving
quite
a
bit
to
commercial.
The
planning
commission
approved
this
with
several
stipulations,
addressing
the
two
county
and
city
landmarks
on
the
property.
The
agreement
included.
Controls
quote
to
preserve
the
timber
school
landmark
consistent
with
the
general
plan.
Failure
to
comply
could
mean
cancellation
or
termination
of
the
project.
K
K
Thankfully,
the
city
and
fire
marshal
stepped
in
and
required
some
cleanup
and
boarding
up
of
the
property
to
protect
the
landmarks
for
the
future.
Since
then,
tim
gallagher
stepped
in
and
arranged
information
meetings
at
the
stagecoach
end,
and
now
I'm
learning
elsewhere.
The
city
planning,
rep
attendant
residents.
Comments
were
shared,
including
some
pioneering
conejo
valley
founding
members.
K
They
unanimously
agree
that
any
future
use
must
benefit
the
public
honoring,
the
original
public
land
zoning
and
they
preferred
something-
educational,
the
architect,
brian
poliquin
I'll,
say
it
right
eventually
represented
his
vision.
Quite
clearly,
it's
it's
changed
a
little
bit
and
he
took
the
time
to
listen,
which
I
really
appreciate
it.
He
lives
here.
He
gets
it.
You
know
is
really.
I
believe
his
intent
is
to
do
the
best
project.
He
can.
He
shared
his
successful
background,
restoring
his
historic
buildings.
K
He
also
stated
his
intent
to
preserve
and
incorporate
both
landmarks
into
the
rezoned
commercial
residential
mixed
use.
I'm
I'm
trying
to
catch
up
for
the
new
zoning
there
to
ensure
his
company
would
hire
to
ensure
this.
His
company
would
hire
a
historic
preservation
firm
to
research
and
establish
restoration
guidelines.
K
K
I
believe
that
a
proactive
thousand
oaks
cultural
heritage
board
oversight
will
ensure
that
the
landmarks
are
not
left
to
the
elements
again,
especially
during
this
long
planning
and
development
process.
Timber
school
house
is
now
95
years
old
is
the
oldest
public
building
in
the
canao
valley.
K
B
You,
mr
maple,
thank
you
very
much,
kathy
boone,
followed
by
alice
stewart.
K
Hi,
my
name
is
kathy
boone
and
I'm
a
full-time
volunteer
at
the
stagecoaching
museum,
and
I
just
want
to
also
commend
tim
gallagher
and
mark
sellers
for
their
public
outreach,
outreach
efforts
to
the
cultural
part
of
the
community
and
bringing
the
property
owner's
plans
for
the
site
to
the
public
and
for
listening
to
the
community's
concerns
and
ideas
for
repurposing
the
two
historic
school
buildings.
K
In
my
notes,
from
the
june
5th
public
outreach
meeting
held
at
the
stagecoach
and
museum,
I
recorded
and
mind
you.
These
are
my
notes.
I
recorded
don
nielsen
associate
planner
as
stating
that
the
city
will
require
the
developer
to
obtain
a
historical
consultant,
establish
the
two
historical
buildings
period
of
historical
significance,
provide
a
historical
resources
report,
I'm
guessing
that's
a
historical
resources.
Treatment
plan
ensure
that
all
interior
changes
are
compliant
with
secretary
of
the
interior
standards
and
guidelines
for
historic
properties
and
sequence
for
historical
resources
are
those
requirements
still
in
place.
K
Okay,
then,
I'm
in
favor
of
the
developer's
plan
for
restoring
and
repurposing
the
historical
buildings
use
of
the
land
surrounding
the
buildings
and
integrating
the
historical
buildings
if
those
stipulations
of
the
city
are
met
and
if
the
developer
honors
his
commitment
to
provide
space
in
the
administration
building
and
the
auditorium
for
community
programs
and
events,
including
historical
programs,
art
exhibits,
classes,
dance
or
music
recitals
as
well.
The
developer
must
stand
by
his
offer
to
have
the
project's
leasing
office
staff
coordinate
use
of
the
buildings
by
community
groups.
K
E
E
E
E
I
know
I
look
good,
but
anyway,
so
just
so,
you
know
we
did
purchase
a
condo
in
1986
that
backs
up
to
we're
on
kel
we're
on
galway,
which
backs
up
to
the
property
that
they're
proposing
when
we
purchased
that
property
in
1986.
We
bought
it
because
we
knew
that
there
wouldn't
be
any
noise
behind
us
after
6
p.m,
and
there
wouldn't
be
anybody
there
on
the
weekend
and
that
we
had
a
nice
view
of
the
mountains,
and
we
knew
that
we
had
that
because
we
bought
it
back.
Then.
E
What
they're
proposing
is
to
now
put
noise
behind
me
block
the
view
and
a
lot
of
people,
as
mr
pedersen
said,
that
we
don't
have
very
much
parking
on
our
street
and
the
flow
over
from
what's
going
to
come
from.
There
is
going
to
load
into
our
street
where
we
won't
have
any
room
to
go.
When
the
school
was
there.
We
had
a
lot
of
people
who
were
doing
drugs
that
would
come
onto
our
block
from
the
school
and
would
then
frequent
on.
E
E
I
think
that
part
of
it's
going
to
also
bring
down
our
value
of
our
property
because
of
the
amount
of
dwelling
spots
that
they're
going
to
be
putting
in
there.
I
find
that
it's
just
nerve-wracking.
I
would
like
it
if
you
consider
keeping
it
as
a
commercial
property.
While
I
do
appreciate
the
fact
that
they're
going
to
go
ahead
and
preserve
the
school
and
the
markings
there,
I
would
like
to
keep
it
as
a
commercial
property
rather
than
a
residential
property.
L
Good
evening,
mayor
council,
where
to
start
I'm
an
alumni
of
timber,
school
graduated
did
all
eight
years
there
probably
1952
to
1960
or
so
so,
my
interest
and
I'm
happy
to
hear
about
the
preservation
and
restoration
that
will
occur
with
that.
L
L
Aspect
to
it
for
me,
having
grown
up
with
some
of
the
the
kelly's
the
orchards,
the
jans
families
at
that
time,
and,
of
course,
having
seen
the
whole
canelo
valley
change
drastically
since
then,
so
again,
just
the
preservation,
the
restoration
of
the
school.
L
You
know
really
looking
forward
to
to
that
happening
and
you
know
bringing
it
back
to
a
state
of
what
it
once
was.
Hopefully
yeah.
So
just
hopefully
that'll
go.
B
T
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Just
a
few
comments.
There
was
a
couple
of
comments
about
parking
and
just
wanted
to
say
that
the
plan
requires
520
parking
spaces.
T
T
The
issue
of
promises
made
to
neighbors
kept,
I'm
not
sure
exactly
the
circumstances
of
that.
But
again,
if
this
project
does
go
forward,
there
will
be
a
series
of
conditions
of
approval
from
multiple
city
departments
which
are
legally
binding
on
the
applicant
and
are
our
normal
way
to
ensure
compliance
with
a
an
improved
design.
T
B
Thank
you,
mr
town.
The
applicant
wants
a
rebuttal.
L
Thank
you.
I
was
just
gonna,
make
a
couple
comments.
One
we
haven't
done
any
view
analysis
from
the
galway
residents
or
from
that
level
the
site
will
eventually
be
lower.
L
The
apartments
will
be
lower,
and
we
certainly
can
do
that
between
now
in
the
planning
commission
hearing
on
the
entitlements
get
all
sorts
of
view,
analysis
of
what
from
each
of
the
homes
up
there.
In
essence,
almost
one
of
the
things
I've
noted
with
the
noise
consultants,
I've
been
working
with
doing
the
noise
studies
is
that
three-story
buildings
actually
reduce
noise
from
the
freeway.
So
that
was
one
of
the
benefits
we
were
trying
to
say
to
remove
the
sound
wall.
L
D
Yeah
just
a
couple
questions,
my
parking
questions
were
answered
and
I
councilman
engler
spoke
about
the
rants.
Could
you
just
elaborate
on
that
a
little
bit?
D
I
know
that
he
got
into
that
with
you
about
affordable
the
rents
and
and
what
was
the
percentage
of
the
average
income
that
is
affordable
or
some
of
these
are
what
are
called
very
affordable.
Is
that
right.
D
Little
for
how
many
family
members.
T
So
the
the
area
median
income
varies,
of
course,
depending
on
the
size
of
the
of
the
household,
but
for
a
four
person
household,
the
median
income
is
97
800.
T
One
person
the
median
is
sixty
eight
thousand
four
hundred
and
fifty
so
to
qualify
as
a
lower
income
quote
unquote
resident
the
maximum
that
they
could
earn
annually
is
fifty
eight
thousand
six
hundred.
For
instance,
I.
D
Think
they
start
at
68
000.
Do
they
anyway,
that's
beside
the
point:
what
about
preserving
the
school
is
the
developer
planning
to
maintain
the
school
and
and
the
little
parks
that
they
were
talking
about.
T
Yes,
the
the
intent
is
to
preserve
the
the
schools
to
retain
their
current
architectural
design,
as
required
by
the
the
cultural.
T
Board
resolution
and
then,
of
course,
as
I
mentioned,
there
would
be
small
parklets
on
site
that
would
provide
not
only
recreational
opportunities
but
additional
visual
relief
from
the
buildings
themselves.
T
D
Well,
oh,
and
and
the
the
historical
consultant
you
know
I
may
be
getting
into
greater
detail
here.
I
realize
this
is
just
a
yes
red
light,
green
light.
Oh
yes,
you
agree
with
me,
mr
mayor
thank.
A
D
I
appreciate
that,
but
I
I
know
we
can
work
out
the
final
details
later,
but
obviously
I'd
like
to
preserve
the
school
and
have
if
we
can
get
the
historical
society
involved.
As
I
understand
it
was
mentioned
to
have
tours
there
and
and
really
utilize
that
I
was
really
interested,
mr
williams,
and
having
gone
there
for
the
full
eight
years
when
we
first
moved
here,
all
those
the
schools
were
right
years,
the
elementaries
and
you
didn't
go
to
high
school
to
until
and
there
were
no
middle
schools.
L
I
My
understanding
of
our
our
intent
tonight
is
to
give
feedback
on
on
the
project.
I
think
the
the
intent
of
the
developers
to
retain
that
historic
structures
there
and
then
to
model
the
architecture
of
the
improvements
to
the
property
to
match.
Those
is
very
good,
I
think
it'll
add
some
a
lot
to
that
area
of
newbury
park.
I
I
Comments
tonight
from
our
from
your
neighbors,
though
I
think,
need
to
be
addressed
a
little
bit
in
that
there
they
have
grown
accustomed
to
the
location
as
it
as
it
was
and
as
it
is
now,
and
I
would
urge
you
to
incorporate
their
concerns
into
your
your
process
going
forward.
I
But
in
terms
of
the
the
project,
I
think
the
the
benefits
to
the
city
of
coming
up
with
some
affordable
housing
is
is
important
if
you
can
see
fit
to
add
a
little
more
to
that
that'd
be
nice.
The
at
adding
the
the
ability
of
the
building
to
become
an
active
building.
Again,
I
think,
is
a
real,
a
real
benefit
to
the
the
community,
especially
that
area
of
newberry
park,
so
that
that's
my
feedback
to
you
on
on
the
project.
So
far,.
Q
Thank
you,
mayor
mccoy.
I
would
echo
mr
engler's
comment
regarding
the
community
outreach,
so
the
the
very
people
the
residents
who
are
living
on
that
street
are,
of
course,
worried
about
privacy
invasion
with
the
view
and-
and
I
would
also
urge
you
to
reach
out
to
them
to
address
those
concerns,
I'm
not
sure
why
they
were
not
part
of
the
meeting
that
or
the
meetings
that
you
had
other
than
being
on
vacation,
I'm
not
sure
if
everybody,
oh,
you
were
there,
okay,
so
except
for
one
okay.
Q
So
thank
you
for
clarifying
that,
but
I
I
think
that
that
is
something
that
I
would
urge
you
to
do
is
to
continue
to
to
work
with
them
to
address
their
concerns.
Regarding
the
view,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
R
R
I'll
tell
you,
I
I'll
tell
you
one
thing:
in
my
opinion:
that's
a
blighted
piece
of
land
out
there.
That's
a
blighted
piece
of
land
with
there's
vacancy
problems.
There's
there's
buildings
in
disrepair,
there's
dumping
it's
on
the
freeway
and
it's
obvious
to
me
commercials
not
going
to
work.
I
think
you
had
three
commercial
proposals.
No
one
was
interested.
We
have
an
eighteen
percent
vacancy
rate
in
commercial
in
the
city
thousand
oaks,
but
we,
but
what
we
do
have
a
demand
for
is
housing.
Our
vacancy
rate
in
housing
is
like
two
percent.
R
Five
percent
would
be
considered
extreme
we're
down
to
two
and
everybody
complains
to
me.
Oh,
the
rents
are
too
high.
The
reason
the
rents
are
too
high
is
because
we
have
such
little
supply
and
such
huge
demand
if
we
can
bring
the
supply
up
just
a
little.
That
may
be
able
to
bring
those
those
rents
down.
R
We
do
get
some
affordable
with
this,
which
I
think
is
very
important.
It's
one
of
the
council
priorities
we're
we're
low
and
very
low
in
low
income
housing.
This
will
give
us
a
20
22
boost
in
that
and
and
I'll
tell
you.
I
like
the
fact-
and
I
hear
this
all
the
time
too.
We
don't
have
workforce
housing
in
thousand
oaks.
We
don't
have
enough
workforce
housing
for
for
doctors,
teachers,
our
doctors
hold
back
up,
doctors
are
going
to
be
fine
teachers,
fire
fire,
folks,
police.
B
R
Nurses,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
doctors,
okay
anyway.
This
will,
you
know,
based
on
if
this
eventually
goes
through.
This
has
to
come
back
to
the
council
again
to
be
voted
on
36
studios,
95,
one
bedrooms,
that's
that
workforce
housing
that
that
we
need
and
that
we're
looking
for
and
the
hotel,
I
think,
is
gonna
work.
You
know
the
the
vacancy
rate
is
very
low
at
all
these
hotels
we're
trying
to
build
a
biotech
hub
out
there,
and
some
of
these
businesses
need
a
place
to
you
know
bring
their
people.
R
So
you
know,
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
worth
giving
giving
the
green
light
on
a
pre-screen
to
see
how
this
thing
develops
and
the
and
the
big
thing
with
the
timber
school
too.
That's
really
important.
There's
a
lot
of
people
that
want
to
see
that
thing
refurbished
and
I
think
it's
the
developer's
going
to
do
it
for
us
instead
of
maybe
the
the
taxpayer.
So
I
think
that's
a
big
plus
too.
Would
you
like
to
make
a
motion.
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion.
R
Move
stack.
Thank
you
secretary
recommendation
9b
for
the
we'll
call
it
the
kelly
road
project
and
us
and
give
those
units
during
this
pre-screen.
Q
Thank
you,
mayor
mccoy.
I
will
support
the
motion.
This
is
a
project
that
has
been
in
the
making
for
quite
some
time.
It
does
address
many
of
the
issues
that
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
is
facing,
namely
housing
as
well
as
preserving
heritage.
We
are,
as
the
city
council,
actually
the
cultural
heritage
board,
and
it
was
15
years
ago
that
we
voted
that
the
then
council
voted
to
preserve
timber
school,
and
it
was
thanks
to
william
maple,
kathy,
boone
and
others.
Q
I
don't
know
all
the
names,
but
the
stagecoach
inn
who
made
this
possible
that
the
council
actually
turned
timber
school
into
a
historic
landmark
because
it
is
the
oldest
building
that
we
have,
and
we
must
do
everything
possible.
You
must
do
everything
possible
to
preserve
that
school
and
make
it
a
benefit
to
the
community.
I
think
that
the
number
of
affordable
units
is
actually
very,
very
fair,
but
I
want
to
remind
mr
sellers
that
the
city
council
doesn't
make
decisions
based
on
sales
tax.
At
least
I
don't,
but
I'm
sure
that
my
colleagues
don't
either.
Q
B
Thank
you
councilmember
as
we
prepare
the
vote,
I
would
just
simply
say
to
mr
sellers
and
your
team,
mr
patterson
and
desiree
mullen
or
mullner
suthan,
if
you
could
reach
out
to
them
tim
and
understand
their
concerns
and
resolve
that
work
through
that,
but
I
am
in
favor
at
this
moment
just
to
let
you
proceed
forward
with
this
and
I
know
there's
much
more
to
do
and
citizens
to
meet
with.
So,
madam
clerk,
if
you
prepare
the
vote.
B
Thank
you,
madam
clerk.
I
yeah
mayor
pro
tem
adam.
Will
you
adjourn
tonight's
meeting
in
memory
of
albert
marley.
R
I
will
mayor,
thank
you
just
before
we
do
that,
though,
were
there
any
follow-up
reports
on
meetings
from
council
members
in
here
nothing.
I.
O
Just
give
my
quick
update
on
the
next
council
meeting
all.
O
Next
meeting
is
scheduled
for
two
weeks
from
tonight.
On
the
22nd
of
october.
We
currently
have
a
public
hearing
on
transit,
fair
and
services,
modifications
prescreen
for
the
cohan
project
on
maurice
drive
and
we'll
hear
updates
from
council
member
engler
and
jones
from
the
annual
league
of
california
cities
conference
just
for
the
council's
benefit
I'll
be
attending
the
international
city
managers
association
conference
that
evening
and
mrs
hardy
will
be
running
that
meeting.
That's
all
thank.
R
Thank
you,
mr
newton,
and
this
evening
we
are
going
to
going
to
adjourn
in
the
in
memory
of
albert
d.
Marley
otherwise
known
as
bud
and
bud
was
a
presence
here
in
the
community
for
many
many
years
and
we're
in
journey
in
his
memory
he
passed
away
on
september.
4Th
dr
marley
is
a
resident
of
thousand
oaks.
R
Dr
molly
was
recognized
for
his
leadership
by
the
association
of
california
school
administrators.
He
was
selected
as
administrator
of
the
year
for
his
professional
commitment
and
lasting
contributions.
The
education
of
students
in
the
state
of
california
bud
and
his
wife
jacqueline
were
notable
fixtures
at
every
significant
civic
event
in
the
greater
canejo
valley,
and
I
can
attest
to
that
personally.