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please
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Let's
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so
that
you
can
see
it
now.
He
spoke
to
him
abbot
good
morning.
More
I
am
very
pleased
to
see
you
welcome
to
the
meeting
this
morning.
B
I
would
like
to
start
by
making
some
presentations
and
then
we
are
going
to
accept
questions.
I
want
to
ask
those
who
have
not
asked
questions
or
have
not
participated
in
this
meeting.
Can
you
please
ask
questions?
Some
have
asked
questions
above,
but
we're
going
to
go
over
other
questions.
Also,
the
purpose
of
today's
meeting
is
not
for
you
to
give
us
your
feedback
on
alternatives,
it's
for
you
to
understand
the
alternatives,
and
why
they're
there?
B
So
you
can
comment
on
the
alternatives
in
the
survey
that
it
is
the
way
that
we
will
receive
the
comments.
Also,
you
can
make
comments
on
the
maps.
That
is
the
only
way
in
which
we
are
going
to
be
able
to
reduce
these
meetings.
This
is
not
a
representation
of
everything
we
do,
such
as
the
surveys.
I
recognize
that
many
of
you
are
more
remhi
with
rey
my
associate.
I
am
a
general
plan
consultant.
B
B
B
B
A
B
B
Im
want
wilburn,
I
have
lived
in
rabbit
valley
since
1983
I
live
in
m
I
am
currently
21
years
old
and
I
am
a
citizen
very
well.
I
am
going
to
tell
you
that
some
of
you
say
I
am
a
citizen
and
interested.
If
you
are
here
on
a
Saturday
morning.
You
are
definitely
interested
citizens
Saturday
morning
who
want
to
know
more
about
the
general
plan.
Now
kristen.
B
B
Because
you
have
your
microphone
turned
off
now,
yes,
I
had
not
already
noticed.
I
am
a
concerned.
Interested
citizen
I
have
been
in
this
house
since
1989
I
love
things
and
how
they
are,
and
I
am
very
concerned
about
the
direction
in
which
you
are
going,.
That
is
why
I
am
here
today
to
be
informed
and
I.
Educated,
myself,
more
and
I
am
also
a
bit
annoyed.
B
Rosal
good
morning,
I
have
been
a
resident
of
Causa
at
the
age
of
37.
I
am
a
volunteer
with
citizens.
Climent
I
saw
it
climent
and
rabbit
climent
coalition
organizations
that
care
for
he
environment
I
want
us
to
preserve
the
qualities
for
which
we
came
to
live
here.
I
am
ugly,
rittenhouse
I
have
lived
for
15
years,
cause
no
cause.
I
live
near
the
bolt
art,
wetlands
and
I
am
concerned
about
the
urbanization
of
that
area.
A
B
A
B
Here,
first
in
63,
when
I
was
18
years
old,
but
I
have
lived
here
continuously
for
21
years
in
a
park
of
houses
in
newbery
park.
Sorry
I
am
worried
about
the
sustainability
of
our
city
and
I
would
like
to
know
what
it
will
be
like
here
in
25
years,
for
my
grandchildren
and
I
want
to
be
I'm
sure
they'll
do
something
so
that
the
people
who
work
in
cause
nose
can
also
live
in
cause
aux.
It
's
an
environmental
issue
and
it's
also
a
community
issue.
B
I'm
also
involved
with
the
climent
rabbit
commission
and
the
charlize
environmental
action
group
now
cat
good
days.
My
name
is
cat.
I
am
a
resident
of
tausa
knox.
I
am
new
here.
I
have
lived
in
ventura
county
for
a
couple
of
years,
but
I
came
here
because
you
don't
think
so
little
bit.
I
am
a
member
of
rabbit
that
met
collision
and
rabbit
reality
project
and
I
love
everything
that
is
abroad.
Go
outdoors
now
go.
A
B
B
On
maybe
you're
going
to
need
to
know
how
to
open
your
mic?
Yes,
that's
a
good
point.
They
were
on
the
bottom
left
of
your
screen.
You
can
see
the
button
that
says
microphone
where
it
says
the
word
muse
you
can
see
if
your
microphone
is
open
or
closed
the
same
thing,
the
video
you
can
open
both
and
you
can
open
your
microphone,
open
it
or
close
it.
B
I
am
feel
love.
I
have
lived
here
m
Less
than
10
years
25
years
before
in
the
santa
clarita
valley.
What
is
beautiful,
but
not
always
good
I
have
always
been
concerned
about
land
use,
land
use,
committees,
growing,
cold
and
I
am
concerned
about
the
same
mistakes
that
have
been
made
in
another
side
that
have
been
made
here
and
ruin
all
the
good
plans
that
we
have
made
for
50
years
and
tell
us
there
is
this
piece
you
have
to
adapt
it
again,
especially
when
our
planned
for
that.
B
A
B
Good
morning
I
live
here
since
85
and
I'm
worried
about
this
place
being
affordable,
so
my
daughter
can
move
back
here.
They
live
in
the
san
joaquin
valley.
They
wanted
to
live
here,
but
will
being
so
hard
to
be
able
to
afford
a
home
here.
This
is
one
of
the
concerns
I
have
right
now.
Nick
good
morning,
I
am
a
member
of
the
planning
advisory
committee.
I
am
here
to
see
what
the
communities
mention
h.
B
I
have
been
a
resident
of
tausa
nose
for
the
last
three
years
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
from
all
of
you
good
morning.
Nick
now
I
am
fine,
it
looks
like
you
are
the
last.
Thank
you
very
much
and
question
has
to
do
with
loss
of
control
right
now
we
are
just
introducing
ourselves.
Then
we
are
going
to
talk
about
questions.
Excuse
me,
sorry,
no,
you
didn't
know
why
you
came
in
late.
I
am
interested
in
loss
of
control
over
your
unification
and
things
like
fines
and
so
on.
B
And
the
agenda
and
that
forces
us
to
comply
with
things
that
are
not
good
for
everyone
knox
I've
been
here
since
'87,
I
love
the
place,
but
it's
going
the
wrong
way.
Sorry
thanks
what
I
want
to
do
now,
essentially,
is
we
talk
about
questions
and
answers?
We'll
answer
whatever
you
guys
want?
I
know
what
the
state
is
asking
for
and
what
we
need
to
do
and
what
that
has
not
happened
in
the
state,
affordable,
housing
problems.
B
I
can
answer
your
questions,
I
answer
what
I
can,
but
this
is
state.
The
other
point
that
What
I
want
to
emphasize
is
that
people
talk
about
the
housing
element,
the
figures
of
the
housing
element.
What
we
have
already
told
you
from
the
beginning.
This
is
a
process
to
create
and
develop
a
vision
for
the
future
of
the
city
based
on
given
questions
on
the
part
of
the
residents.
I
have
been
working
on
this
general
plan
process
for
a
year
and
a
half
with
community
participation.
B
Thousands
of
people
are
part
of
the
process
and
something
that
is
very
clear
to
me.
From
my
point
of
view,
what
I
observe
I
do
not
eat
resident,
not
as
a
city
employee,
is
that
people
love
tausa,
knox,
love
the
quality
of
life,
the
natural
beauty,
the
open
spaces.
The
city
has
done
a
nice
job,
but
there
are
differences
of
opinion
about
things
mentioned
by
some.
Here
is
how
the
people
it
can
evolve
so
that
others
can
live
here.
Others
don't
want
to
see
much
change.
B
Others
don't
want
to
see
any
change
so
I'm
being
totally
honest
from
what
I
see
there
are
differences
of
opinion
in
this
community.
All
opinions
are
clearly
valid.
There
are
130,000
people
who
live
in
that
city
and
we
have
to
balance
this
challenge.
It
is
very
difficult
for
the
city
we
have
to
correctly
represent
what
people
have
told
us
and
see
what
they
are.
The
alternatives
see
the
concepts,
get
reactions
if
people
know
of
something
they
don't
like.
That's.
Why
we're
doing
this?
B
We
want
to
hear
everyone
hear
what
they
want
and
the
way
we're
getting
feedback
is
not
through
a
forum
like
this.
This
is
not.
It
will
be
summarized
and
say
two
like
this
seven,
if
they
like
it,
we
are
not
doing
this.
It
will
all
be
through
online
surveys,
comments
mainly
surveys,
but
also
online
comments,
and
you
will
be
able
to
find
everything
online
with
this,
because
we
do
not
open
the
session
to
questions.
B
Some
of
you
have
already
been
to
these
meetings
have
asked
yourself
before
to
be
fair
to
those
who
have
not
they've
been
here.
They
haven't
had
a
chance
to
talk.
I
would
like
to
first
with
these
people
who
haven't
participated
and
then
the
others
can
come.
I
want
to
be
fair.
I
want
it
to
be
as
equitable
as
possible,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
we
do
that
steve.
It
seems
like
you
had
a
question.
This
is
jumping
right
into
the
question.
Let's
start
with
you,
sorry
for
being
late,
no
problem,
no
major
problem.
B
B
I
found
two
studies,
one
made
by
freddy
mac
that
instead
of
three
and
a
half
million
that
he
promised
they
will
see
in
2018
or
what
you
he
said.
I
think
that
yesterday,
2.4
million
freddy
mac
said
that
the
need
for
housing
was
820,000
and,
at
the
same
time,
jetty
or
institute
made
calculations,
those
from
the
department
of
finance
and
community
housing
development
with
everything
doubled.
I
know
they
doubled
the
count
of
the
need
for
vacancies.
The
vacancy
factors
were
a
little
confusing.
We
used
the
new
york
state
methodology,
which
were
ridiculous
and
also
exaggerated.
B
The
need
like
60
percent,
so
instead
of
having
the
figures
that
we
have.
What
I
understand
is
that
the
real
need
is
one
million
2.4
or
two
and
a
half
million
received,
and
when
we
talk
about
south
of
Pasadena,
this
is
the
one
that
captured
and
gavin
is
not
so
far
into
these
other
issues
to
let
hc
into
this.
I
just
want
to
hear
your
comments,
so
I
don't
go
crazy
with
this,
but
I
think
there
are
some
things
that
have
been
exaggerated.
I
have
two
answers.
B
One
is
to
develop
the
vision
for
the
city
based
on
to
what
we
have
heard,
what
they
say
and
don't
say
in
the
community
what
they
agree
with
or
disagree
with
what
their
fellow
citizens
have
That
said,.
The
other
thing
is
that
the
figures
for
ruins
are
the
figures
for
the
queen.
I.
Think
I.
Don't
believe
that
the
studies
he
says
are
that
they
exaggerated
an
exaggeration,
the
jurisdictions
have
to
follow
up.
There
is
nothing
we
can
do,.
B
The
city
can
respond
to
this,,
but
essentially
their
studies
are
good.
There
are
people
who
have
identified
all
kinds
of
things,,
all
kinds
of
studies
that
are
out
there,
I
understand,,
but
in
the
end,
yes,,
but
the
fine
is
the
100,000
a
month
that
came
out
of
ave
101,
one
of
these,.
This
is
what
you
are:
representing,
excuse,
me,,
but
I,
don't
know,
listen
if
the
city
decides
not
to
follow
and
na
and
in
the
attorney's
office.
If
we
follow
that
instruction,
the
instruction
for
us
is
to
obey
rain.
B
Until
that
changes
we
don't
continue
queen,
and
you
know
my
hands
are
tied,
I
agree
or
disagree
with
you,
but
it
does
not
matter
because
what
I
say
does
not
matter.
It
is
the
instruction
that
the
state
of
azkar
has
given
us
associations,
governments
of
the
state
of
california
what
the
people
do
to
the
people.
They
have
tried
to
put
it
at
the
state
level.
They
have
tried
to
say
that
the
allocation
of
ruin
does
not
make
sense.
The
reality
is
that
there
is
a
huge
housing
crisis
in
the
state.
We
all
know
it.
B
It
is
about
figures,
and
it
is
not
my
area.
I
understand.
I,
understand
I,
just
want
to
understand
that
you
know
about
all
those
problems.
I
don't
want
the
residents
of
this
city
to
think
that
this
is
something
that
is
already
so
firmly
and
methodologically
sound
that
they
can't
challenge
it
in
the
legislative
process
in
the
future,
because
if
it
impacts
what
we're
doing
it
has
been
challenged
before
many
times
in
this
round,
and
they
have
always
kept
quiet
about
it.
More
than
60
cities
have
challenged
it.
B
B
B
Is
very
similar
to
what
I
asked
steve
I
understand
that
there
must
be
assignments
of
rim
cycles
to
3
of
them,
but
because
we
have
to
have
in
the
maximum
construction
of
the
81,000.
There
is
some
reason
why
we
cannot
convert
insufficient
parcels
in
the
three
cycles
of
reign
and
use
the
foot
the
land
use
plan
is
the
general
plan
is
ready
to
start.
You
say
it
has
to
s
of
33.
B
30
says
that
you
cannot
summarize
the
general
capacity
in
a
city
and
in
an
area
without
changing
it
on
the
one
hand
and
increasing
it
on
the
other
hand,
and
that
capacity
was
in
the
previous
general
plan.
Yes,
that
is
why
we
cannot
go
below
that
figure.
Once
again,
you
are
interested
in
the
climate.
There
are
several
ways
in
which
you
can
evolve.
B
B
We
have
already
reassigned
to
be
able
to
reach
the
vision
and
based
on
what
we
have
seen
from
the
community
in
what
what
we're
seeing
right
now.
The
other
thing
is,
the
city
has
had
a
capacity
of
80
thousand
for
years
and
years,
and
they
only
give
us
48
thousand.
So
this
development
is
happening
very
slowly
due
to
a
variety
of
things,
including
the
rates
of
absorption
of
the
financial
decisions
of
homeowners,
and
there
is
not
much
land
that
is
totally
vacant
in
this
city.
C
A
large
percentage
of
those
are
existing
residential
areas
that
aren't
going
to
change
and
another.
A
large
percentage
of
that
that
is
industrial
office
use,
and
we
have
questions
if
intensification
can
change
them.
And
lastly,
1
or
2%
are
really
these
other
areas
that
we're
talking
about
and
right
now
they
have
are
retail
areas
or
they're
dying
in
the
city
has
more
retai
areas
than
it
really
needs,
and
the
q
estion
is.
What
do
you
want
to
do
with
that,
like
he
cause
knox
mall,
the
r
nch
boulevard?
This
is
a
quest
on.
C
Know
that
It's
a
very
long
answer
to
your
question,,
but
I
really
want
to
watch
people
think
about
what
the
needs
are
in
the
community
and
what
is
the
vision
that
they
can
achieve.
ar
and
let
the
numbers
come
later
and
let's
get
down
to
numbers,
the
city
doesn't
necessarily
vote
for
the
things
I
want
to
need,
like
fiscal
stability
and
tax
revenues
have
decreased.
C
Answered
my
question
of
what
those
penalties
are,
what
they
would
be,
but
you
can
probably
clarify
that
when
I'm
done
here,
we
probably
decide
to
pay
the
penalty
as
a
policy
with
policy
action
to
preserve
our
quality
of
life
here.
But
it's
not
a
talk
for
this.
You
can
identify
your
penalties
and
probably
those
taken
out
of
this
and
another
thing
in
which
you
just
mentioned
touching,
and
it
comes
as
well
as
a
nerve
is.
A
C
Make
sense-
and
it
is
as
if
these
are
the
commercials
they
want
to
preserve
their
profits
regardless.
What
is
it
that
they
are
pushing
or
more
population
and
something
to
create
this
myth
that
there
is
too
much?
And
that
is
why
they
are
not
making
a
profit
and
I
can
see
behind
them
when
they
see
the
businesses
that
have
been
here
for
25
years,
that
they
say,
although
get
out
of
here,
because
I
can
no
longer
pay
the
rent,
because
the
rents
are
going
up.
C
If
we
have
an
oversupply
of
more
I
have
not
heard
that
I
have
not
heard
that
suddenly
they
are
increasing.
I
can
see
them.
That
I
have
seen
as
an
anecdote
throughout
the
state
that
the
commercial
areas
in
city
after
city
and
they
can
do
a
thick
investigation,
once
gain.
It-
is
an
option
in
terms
of
penal
ies.
I
am
not
an
expert
in
housi
g.
It
is
not
one
of
my
areas.
I
did.
A
C
It
is
not
something
that
I
recommend
If
you
allow
me,
I
am
with
the
city
and
I
think
that,
in
addition
to
those
fines,,
basically
for
obtaining
a
certified
element
from
Bilbao,,
the
city
loses
a
lot
of
money
in
subsidies
that
are
used
for
transportation
funds,
for
example,
many
s&p
programs
to
maintain
the
ways
of
having
a
lot
of
those
grants,
as
well
as
our
ongoing,
affordable
housing
programs
and
other
federal
and
state
grants.
So
those
are
essential
and
they're
all
at
risk,
and
these
are
basically
money
that
the
city
uses
for
ongoing
programs.
C
C
Plan
of
2045
I
have
it
here
in
front
of
me
and
I'm,
looking
at
the
marwijk
curriculum
and
I'm
a
little
confused
with
page
55
of
the
active
list
of
compare
and
I
do
not
understand
trying
to
include
more
housing
units,
and
if
you
look
at
the
graphs
and
the
same
in
1976
1970,
how
can
you
explain
that?
Please
first
I
want
to
correct
a
potential
misconception
that
this
is
not
the
general
plan.
It
is
a
summary.
C
A
A
C
C
C
A
C
C
C
A
C
Have
taken
some
of
that
capacity
and
we
have
moved
to
the
corridors
that
allow
multi-family
housing
to
increase
the
supply
of
multi-family
housing,
which
translates
into
more
affordable
housing
and
in
certain
instances
it
is
capital
that
it
is
affordable
housing
in
your
reflections.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
just
want
that
clarification,
but
thanks
for
the
information,
you
have
a
question.
C
A
C
C
The
way
you
guys
talk
about
how
things
are
going
to
happen
is
a
bit
confusing
to
me.
I'm
used
to
having
a
time
frame
at
the
end
of
the
month
of
the
15th
of
the
month
and
having
general
guidelines
that
something
is
going
to
happen
in
a
certain
month
or
in
october
or
april,
or
something
is
a
bit
confusing
to
me.
So
your
very
helpful
series-
and
I
would
appreciate
it.
C
C
I,
don't
understand
the
question
I'm
sorry,
because
each
of
the
three
options
includes
changing
mixed
zoning
and
I.
Think
that
increasing
the
number
of
units
to
put
in
that
area.
My
question
is:
if
it
stays
as
it
is
with
the
necessary
number
of
units,
it
would
fulfill
the
next
round
of
planning.
You
say:
e
n,
the
blight
cycle
and
part
of
the
queen
is
affordability
which
is
based
on
density.
C
A
C
C
Nothing
more
to
say
queen:
it
is
about
identifying
places
in
different
cities
to
allow
the
housing
potential,
so
they
have
to
see
it
based
on
density.
They
have
to
be
in
the
malba,
with
the
low
to
be
able
to
allow
30
units
per
acre
does
not
mean
that
it
is
going
to
be
built,
but
that
is
what
the
general
plan
is.
The
zoning
they
look
at
if
it
is
to
be
an
owner,
is
it
a
single
family
or
not?
A
C
Environmental
impact
study
has
made
a
change.
The
zoning
of
cesar
is
no
longer
part
of
the
process,
an
environmental
impact
report
environment
for
the
general
plan,
even
if
it
looked
at
the
city
in
general,
and
even
if
the
general
plan
changed
its
allocations
and
even
if
there
would
be
studies
associated
with
that
on
the
site
since
the
flow
that
is
going
to
be
in
the
area
as
well
as
the
fact
that
the
influence
this
is
the
period
of
time
that
you
are
talking
about.
C
I
know,
but
nothing
more
because
the
general
plan
is
in
color
on
a
map
and
it
allows
something.
There
are
other
factors
that
come
into
play
to
see
if
it
can
be
built
or
not
in
general
or
the
amount
that
can
actually
be
built.
There
is
another
completely
different
process
of
development
that
needs
to
happen
as
part
of
that.
C
And
that
goes
for
every
parcel
in
the
city.
Just
because
something
is
allowed
doesn't
mean
it's
going
to
be
built
or
it's
going
to
be
out.
So
we
need
this
number
of
81,000.
That
I
don't
think
anyone
believes
that
that's
going
to
happen
in
the
city
at
some
point,
that's
all
the
general
or
theoretical
construction
and
then
there's
another
part
that
we're
going
to
do
later.
It
is
that
it
is
the
projection
of
growth
based
on
the
economic
projection.
So
it
is
the
number
that
we
expect
for
2045.
It
is
much
smaller.
C
C
A
C
A
C
Are
not
there,,
let
us
make
the
same
consideration
to
our
side.
It
is
close
to
rancho
canejo
and
when
most
people
think
that
tonight,
at
the
mall-
and
they
are
not
realizing-
that
this
36
acre
piece
of
property
is
surrounded
by
families
and
is
considered
an
area
of
stability.
There
are
houses
built
thousand
939
in
front
of
us
from
the
seventies.
This
would
be
considered
an
area
of
stability
and
w
should
be
getting
them
to
take
s
into
account.
Just
like
all
the
other
arias
are
getting,
and
I
is
from
those
of
the.
A
C
A
C
Or
where
new
development
could
enter
llo
and
that
house
was
identified
as
a
range
of
things
and
not
pos
and
what
would
happen
under
the
designation?
We
mentioned
this
before
the
challenge
that
we
have
right.
Now
is
a
person
you
think
30
acres
in
old
houses
and
I
think
we
were
listening
to
comments
and
We
are
taking
it
into
account,
of
course,
and
there
is
no
answer
based
on
this
no
decision,
but
if
I
can
see.
A
C
A
C
Talk
about
the
involvement
that
we
have
done,
we
have
commanded
I
have
notified
everyone
in
the
city
of
the
general
plan
process
that
it
has
been
started.
There
have
been
many
failures,
but
the
point
is
that
it
is
not
too
late,
they
are
here
and
they
are
providing
comments.
A
decision
has
not
been
made.
A
C
A
C
C
C
So,
even
though
I
support
what
is
in
this
plan-
and
someone
says
what
you
are
saying,,
it
is
against
what
the
rest
of
the
community
wants,
I
am
not
saying
that
it
is
against
it,,
but
that
is
what
we
heard
until
right
now,
and
that
is
very
common.
In
fact,
for
a
general
plan
process,
I
think
that
really
something
we
want
to
reach
are
questions
about
this.
They
already
have
the
story
of
how
we
got
to
this
is
where
we
are.
C
C
C
Yes,
of
course,
we
are
hearing
more
now.
What
we
heard
before
so
I
am
going
to
tell
you
as
a
perfect
planning
I
understand
the
reaction
of
my
god.
Suddenly
they
are
going
to
say
that
there
are
going
to
be
three
and
four
story:
buildings,
just
behind
my
house
and
there's
a
fear
about
that.
I
understand
that.
C
As
these
conversations
are
evolving,
there
may
be
some
brainstorming
exactly
how
that
could
be
seen
as
layering
and
some
division
to
see,
single-family
housing
and,
secondly,
move
into
commercial.
Because
it's
a
mix
and
you
will
be
able
to
stratify
density
and
how
to
do
that.
You
received
in
my
e-mail.
C
Is
the
third
time
that
it
is
already
here?
I
have
already
been
like
a
hammer,
because
this
exists,
because
that
I
did
bother
sometimes
and
I,
understand
I,
understand
that
they
bother
I
want
to
talk
about
this
so
I.
What
I
proposed
to
karen,
because
until
then
I
have
been
asking
you
questions
about
this
plot.
Is
that
a
small
group
of
us?
That's?
Why
it's
a.
A
A
C
A
C
Of
30
notes
acre
or
more
for
units,
is
it
a
unique
property,
really
unique?
This
I'm
going
to
say
probably
having
just
one
tenth
assignment
right
now
it
does
not
do
justice.
I
personally,
have
other
thoughts
of
what
could
happen
and
parliament
a
group
we
can
get
together
and
brainstorm
and
talk
to
the
owner
of
the
property
and
see
what
will
happen.
I
think
what
we
are
looking
for.
It
is
a
type
of
security
that,
if
we
say
yes,
ok,
go
ahead,
make
use
of
a
mix
of
the
end
that
are
closer
to
the
highway.
C
C
I,
don't
fully
understand,
I,
understand,
I,
understand
it,
so
we
leave
six
ways
that,
as
a
plot
like
this
can
divide
with
different
assignments,
we
can
make
multiples.
In
fact,
we
can
say
in
the
first
200
400
pickets,
single-family
families,
and
we
can
have
the
cne.
It
is
a
vision
to
write
it
in
the
cities.
There
is
much
that
has
not
been
done
yet
so
once
again,
I
think
that
if
the
people
so
open
to
talk
about
this,
it
would
be
worth
having
that
conversation
and
I
can
see
that
they
go
down
fast.
C
C
Who
were
definitely
interested
in
looking
at
some
alternatives?
I
have
my
own
opinions,
but,
as
I
said,
they
do
not
want
to
enter.
This
is
what
I
want.
It
is
not
the
objective
of
this
meeting,
but
I
definitely
think
that
we
can
have
more
people
in
this
area,
and
it
would
be
important
if
we
can
carry
it
out.
First,
small,
to
cooperate
to
have
a
brainstorm
and
I
have
heard
the
concern,
and
once
again
it
is
a
very
unique
plot
and
we
can
solve
problems
before
we
get
to
the
end
of
this
phase
of
alternatives.
C
B
B
B
B
B
I
want
to
thank
you
for
having
the
translation
for
seeing
the
transcript.
Seeing
the
translation
into
Spanish
is
something
that
I
want
to.
Thank
the
citizens
of
Tausa
do
not
need
a
chronology.
We
need
to
know
when
to
join
the
troops
when
we
have
to
attend
something
because
they
are
not
municipal
officials
put
it
in
the
Although.
The
portal
has
to
have
some
flexibility,
I,
really
think
that
it
would
help
us
to
organize
ourselves.
A
lot.
Thank,
you
and
I.
B
Think
one
of
the
things
that
phil
was
telling
you
a
while
ago
is
the
timeline
of
when
the
development
happens
from
general
planning
to
the
whole
project.
We
already
had
the
conversation.
I
want
a
timeline
of
the
project
of
the
general
plan.
If
you
allow
me
to
answer
there,
several
opportunities
to
gather
the
troops,
one
is
right
now
this
moment
do
not
wait
until
the
next
meeting
to
talk
about
this
again.
The
survey
has
already
come
out.
There
are
the
alternatives.
B
If
you
want
to
join
with
neighboring
friends
to
talk
about
this,
this
is
the
time
to
do.
It.
I
take
advantage
of
the
opportunity
now
to
tell
you
that
we
are
extending
two
weeks
from
March
1
to
March
15,
to
answer
the
survey,
to
give
you
a
little
more
time,
because,
right
now
there
is
a
good
drive,
a
good
motivation
to
do.
B
B
B
The
proposal
is
to
allow
medium
density
for
housing
there,
and
if
you
see
the
maximum
figures,
we
it
scares
a
thousand
or
more
residents.
What
strikes
me
about
this
is
having
lived
in
san
fernando
and
santa
clarita.
The
level
of
planning
here
is
an
example.
So
I
don't
want
to
be
t
a
negative,
but
I
do
not
want
to
spoil
all
the
work
that
has
been
done.
B
B
Then
the
current
residents
will
have
to
accept
the
decreased
level
of
services
and,
on
the
other
hand,
if
that
commercial
area
becomes
residential,
the
next
commercial
area,
where
you
can
run
errands
miles
away,
then
you
have
to
drive
and
not
walk,
we're
going.
We're
going
back
we're
going
back
you're
talking
about
what's
called
the
center
of
the
village
avilés
center.
A
couple
of
things.
I
totally
understand
one
of
the
other
aspects
that,
during
this
participation
process,
this
idea
of
neighborhoods
cente
s
like
small.
B
Businesses
can
be
where
it
is
said
like
that,
and
obviously
we
have
heard
mixed
examples
that
some
of
these
commercial
areas,
if
they
should
stay
as
commercial
or
should
they
allow
housing
or
should
it
be
something
mixed,
is
an
open
question:
let's
go
to
need
to
go
region
by
region
and
see
that
it
is
possible
that
it
is
nothing
but
seeing
everything
together
and
losing
this
is
circulation
because
it
only
has
access
through
trees.
There
is
only
a
right
turn
and
it
cannot
create
convert
that
into
a
large
avenue.
B
We
have
a
good
balance
at
this
moment
that
throws
an
imbalance
I,
like
that,
you
are
considering
these
issues,
because
that
is
what
is
going
to
bring
about
the
change
if
it
is
a
part
of
the
retail
business
that
works
well,
if
I
were
the
owner
of
the
property,
I
am
not
squandering
everything
for
create
housing
there,
because
there
is
a
risk
of
doing
that.
But
that
point
is
very
good.
B
B
B
B
Can
specify
affordability,
different
levels
of
makes
affordability
extremely
low,
very
low
medium
to
medium
income?
To
achieve
this,
you
have
to
do
a
feasibility
study,
because
you
can't
do
a
housing,
ordinance
exclusion
area,
because
that
prohibits
the
urbanization
of
a
place
has
to
be
done
so
that
the
projects
can
proceed
uir
and
that
it
is
not
just
a
barrier
to
housing.
There
is
a
financial
feasibility
study
that
has
to
be
done
along
with
this.
B
The
area,
exclusion,
housing
ordinance,
does
not
have
to
be
included
in
the
general
plan
for
the
development
that
happens
from
the
general
plan
to
include
and
well
the
exclusion
area
I
understand
that
they
want
to
put
pressure
on
it.
However,
I
will
give
you
an
example.
We
worked
on
a
project
in
the
north.
B
That
is
very
much
in
favor
of
affordable
housing.
They
have
rent
control.
The
general
plan
had
policies
to
promote
affordable
housing,
action
to
create
housing
exclusion
area,
and
then
there
was
the
implementation
action
to
implement
the
plan
so
that
the
housing
ordinance
was
made,
even
because
the
development
process
is
slow.
B
It
takes
years
for
the
approval
of
the
project
as
well,
and
all
the
projects
are
going
to
be
subject
to
the
inclusion,
ordinance
east
of
palo
alto,
many
communities
that
even
have
housing
ordinances-
and,
let
me
explain
you
think
I
am
not
saying
that
It's
a
bad
idea,.
What
I
tell
them
is
that
they
don't
have
to
have
the
wine,
the
order
to
hatch
them
before
making
the
plan
to
obtain
the
benefit,.
If
the
city
means
it
seriously,,
they
start
earlier
and
not
later,
no,.
But
it's
not
critical,.
A
B
B
If
we
study
to
try
to
update
the
inclusion
criteria
and
its
ordinance,
and
that
has
to
do
with
the
parameters
that
are
on
the
books
at
this
time,
honestly,,
we
do
not
have
high
density
within
our
zoning
notifications,
many
times
they
ask
us
for
density
bonds,.
We
do
not
have
a
good
track.
Record,
leave
a
good
figure,.
If
we
did
a
study,,
the
figure
would
be
very
low,
the
internal
idea
of
having
the
inclu
ion
criteria.
B
A
B
I
know
a
lot
of
people
don't
like
this,
but
it
has
to
do
with
density
and
feasibility.
It
doesn't
mean
bigger
buildings,
it
means
the
same
size
buildings
with
smaller
units.
We
talked
about
this
earlier.
One
can
put
more
than
30
units
per
acre
in
an
area
of
50,
with
smaller
units.
Get
t
e
same
building
with
more
units
as
they
are
increasing
density
can
then
make
the
projects
more
feasible
and
so
more
can
be
allocated
to
affordable
housing.
A
B
Are
asking
very
sophisticated
and
very
complicated
questions?
Some
of
them
have
a
lot
more
to
do
with
my
knowledge
of
planning
than
I
have
for
you,
congratulations,
but
take
into
account
how
complex
I
am.
We
are
trying
to
simplify
it
and
keep
er
this.
The
robust
form
can
be
a
question
simply
and
quickly.
How
do
we
give
those
comments
to
the
city
and
how
do
we
do
it?
Because
I
know
there
will
be
a
housing
element
as
well
as
the
ordinances
when
we
deliver
that
information.
B
We
prefer
that
they
go
into
the
minutes.
There's
a
book
in
where
all
this
is
filled.
People
tell
us
if
they
like
it.
They
don't
like.
It
also
do
the
surveys.
They
have
the
crisis
surveys
and
they
don't
like
it.
When
I
say
this
I'm
far
away
from
you
and
I
can
get
away
with
saying
it,
but
you
can
send
emails.
B
B
B
B
B
Have
been
increasing
over
the
years
in
terms
of
when
they
have
occurred
this
year
it
has
been
much
more
whatever
the
trend
you
can
assume
that
to
meet
queen
in
the
housing
element
once
again
excellent
question.
The
answer
is
a
very
complicated
question,
but
the
answer
is
yes
and
yes,
but
it
depends
on
historical
trends.
The
city
will
not
be
able
to
count
100%.
They
cannot
do
everything
based
on
these
figures,,
especially
with
the
question
of
affordability.
B
B
Some
cities
are
looking
at
how
they
can
give
public
subsidies
to
create
these
accessory
units
in
the
form,
affordable
and
if
you'll
excuse
me,
I
don't
know
why
you
asked
that
question
pink,
but
there
is
confusion
with
these
accessory
units
and
account
for
flour.
Pe
ro
doesn't
count
for
the
speed
of
light
land
use
map
thankful
designated.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
A
B
B
B
A
B
B
A
B
B
Obviously,
after
the
production
is
given
and
how
far
it
is
deviated
from
the
e
equals,
these
2600
numbers
has
much
higher
percentages
in
the
affordable
income
category.
If
you
look
at
the
current
production
numbers,
which
means
we
need
to
plan
for
double
or
more
than
the
current
blight
cycle
for
the
next
8
years,
but
that
means
yes,
we
are
going
to
have
a
lot
of
high-rise
housing
that
is
not
necessary
to
meet
the
urine
figures.
B
Because
affordable
housing
is
built
by
private
development,
they
prosecute
ops,
mini
mansion.
A
couple
of
projects
have
been
built.
There
are
very
few
of
those
types
of
development
that
doesn't
happen
here.
They
depend
on
private
development
that
creates
private
development.
Is
the
ability
to
be
able
to
include.
A
B
You
and
others
talk
about
a
very
good
point:
it
's
a
big
challenge.
There
is
a
need
for
more
affordable
housing
in
this
community.
There
is
a
desire,
and
it
we
have
heard
of
affordable
housing,
which
I
use
quite
broadly,
not
restricted
housing
where
you
have
to
build
ruir
to
have,
for
example,
housing
for
teachers
for
students
for
young
professionals.
B
I
also
hear
that
you
say
that
all
the
multi-family
housing
that
is
being
built
is
high
and
higher
income
and
that
these
other
departments
are
not
receiving
the
benefit
of
that
higher
density,
because
some
of
the
benefits
that
I
hear
is
that
if
they
are
going
to
accept
greater
density,
that
comes
with
affordability.
The
other
thing
is
that
the
rim
requirement
does
not
even
touch
the
very
low
income
categories
that
are
the
workers
with
the
lowest
wages
of
the
minimum
wage.
B
Density
itself
is
not
necessarily
going
to
produce
affordable
units.
Housing
is
very
expensive.
Units
are
sky,
high
cost
of
land
cost
of
construction
is
sky.
High
clint
mentioned
this
as
one
of
the
ways
you
can
get
affordable,
housing,
lo,
which
is
through
housing,
inclusion
area
and
what
he
said,
and
although
for
this
to
really
make
sense
and
happen,
the
densities
have
to
be
higher
to
be
able
to
make
them
work
because
most
affordable
housing
in
most
affordable
housing
is
going
to
be
built
within
the
city,
and
it's
going
to
be
probably
through
housing
inclusion
area.
C
C
That
have
created
their
own
density
bonus
program.
That
says,
if
they
want
to
build,
affordable
housing,
a
percentage
of
climatic
wines
must
have
a
density
bonus.
The
state
has
a
density
bonus
program,
but
the
challenge
right
now
is
that,
as
the
densities
are
in
the
city,
even
when
it
is
still
with
that
density
bonus
program,
the
projects
are
more
difficult
in
fact,
build
them
and
not
lose
money.
C
Because
of
the
amount
of
monkey
and
density
height
they
can
get
compared
to
what
s
levels
of
affordability,
so
it
's
very
complicated
and
I,
don't
claim
to
understand
everything,
but
it's
a
combination
of
things
where
they
also
say
we
want
affordable
housing
and
we
want
100%,
affordable
housing.
There
are
very
few
developers
that
are
going
to
come
and
build
living
that
way
they
finally
want
more
housing,
that's
affordable,
why
that
doesn't
come
with
all
the
limitations
in
terms
of
town
centers
of
these.
C
We've
talked
about
this
idea
over
the
course
of
the
last
year
and
I,
don't
even
remember
where
I
got
the
idea
where
it
comes
from,
but
what
I
see
as
a
possible
change
in
the
population
centers
of
the
town,
because
we
want
a
place
where
you
can
walk
a
bicycle,
a
place
where
people
already
established
center,
close
to
their
neighborhoods
that
cause
a
lot
of
traffic.
What
if
we
build?
C
But
there
are
shared
common
spaces
that
include
a
kitchen,
laundry
areas
that
are
shared,.
It
is
not
so
expensive
for
a
developer
to
build
it,,
because
it
is
not.
You
have
to
put
all
the
facilities
in
each
apartment
and
I
think
it
would
be
beneficial
for
single
people
and
students
who,
like
they
are
included
in
a
community
in
the
middle
of
a
turin
community.
It
would
also
be
good
for
older
people.
They
are
reducing
their
spaces,
they
are
looking
for
more
amenities
and
chambers
of
camaraderie
and
living
alone.
C
So
it's
a
concept
like
a
retirement
home
like
a
college
dorm
where
you're
sharing
common
spaces
that
your
world
is
using,
that,
together
with
people
while
the
apartment
you
live
in,
makes
the
space
a
little
bit
smaller.
It
is
not
so
expensive
to
build
and
it
makes
those
installations
completely
electric.
So
you
don't
have
to
have
the
expense
of
putting
gas
connections
and
it
would
still
bring
the
price
down
with
solar
panels
on
the
roof
that
would
generate
clean
energy
instead
of
putting
electric
and
gas
in
each
one.
C
That
is
my
idea
and
I
would
like
to
see
the
centers
of
the
village
that
were
attractive
with
gardens
or
a
focus
point
set
of
trees
to
make
a
very
nice
and
beautiful
place
to
meet
where
to
go,
and
then
establish
a
network
of
bicycle
lanes
and
paths
where
you
can
walk
to
the
centers
to
go
around
without
having
to
navigate
with
traffic
congestion
or
congested
streets.
That's
my
idea,
probably
around
the
cost
of
building
affordable
units.
C
A
C
Really
need
to
think
it's
a
very
creative
idea
and
I'm
going
to
start
by
saying
that
I
love
it
The
creativity
of
these
ideas
to
be
completely
honest,
I,
don't
know
how
this
works
with
building
codes
and
creating
buildings
and
renting
them
I.
Just
honestly,
don't
know
so
I
think
it's
something
that
can
be
explored
and
we
can
talk
about
it
and
I
love
creativity
like
that.
What
thanks
you
ask
me-
and
you
mentioned
this
in
population
centers.
C
C
Neighborhoods,
the
closest
commercial
place
is
2.2
miles
away,
I
have
to
take
my
car
and
if
we
really
want
to
be
able
to
walk
or
bike
I
think
we
need
to
provide
services
in
every
neighborhood
instead
of
expecting
everyone
to
go
downtown
and
nothing
else
is
going
to
encourage
everyone
to
use
their
cars.
I
have
a
question
and
I'm
sorry
I'm
going
to
ask
you
a
question
and
you
can
all
come
in
and
with
this
question
one
of
the
things
that
is
always
a
challenge
and
has
come
up
in
this
plan.
C
C
Planning
advisory
committee
people
have
to
understand
the
scale
of
a
building
compared
to
the
density
housability
based
on
the
size
of
the
unit
and
not
the
building.
If
you
have
two
thousand
square
feet
of
units,
it
gives
you
a
low
density
in
a
building.
If
you
have
a
thousand
square
feet
per
unit,
it
gives
you
a
much
higher
density,
and
if
you
have
750
square
feet,
the
density
goes
up
even
more.
It
is
the
shape
of
the
building.
Essentially,
so
my
question
is:
how
much
tolerance
exists
there
in
the
community
to
continue
building
smaller
34.
C
Those
for
whatever
you
want
well,
obviously,
I
can
speak
for
myself,
nothing
else
and,
of
course,
except
with
the
one
we
detailed.
My
problem
with
density
is
not
the
density
itself.
My
problem
with
density
is
all
the
extra
traffic
congestion,
the
pollution
that
comes
with
it,
and
if
we
really
build
a
city
where
you
can
walk,
then
a
bicycle,
not
everyone
could
do
that
and
in
fact
we
do.
I
have
no
problem
with
density,
but
the
way
things
are
being
built
right
now.
C
C
There
is
more
tolerance
for
it.
They
also
want
to
have
one
of
the
things
that
is
being
talked
about
like
the
mixed
use
of
housing,
and
we
want
it
to
be.
The
type
that
can
be
walked
on
and
I
don't
know
how
we
could
go
against
this,
but
we
also
have
to
fix
and
make
sure
that
we
don't
end
up
building
something
that
I
don't
know
that
you're
not
familiar
with
the
American
englander,
but
it's
not
really
a
place
where
people
who
come
there
shop,
it's
a
place
that
has
boutiques
and
book
stores.
C
It
doesn't
have
a
pharmacy
or
a
supermarket.
So
we
are
sure
to
do
these
places
that
are
like
a
mini
rodeo,
lock
on
the
first
floor
and
apartments
that
are
afraid
of
e
example
in
cause.
Wouldn't
it
be
something
that
I
think
would
cause
this
mix
of
use?
Yes,
I
know
what
you're
thinking
I
know
it's
hard
and
making
it
work
and
a
lot
of
times.
A
C
C
C
Own
in
the
city,
where
there
is
probably
an
aversion
to
desired
density,
I
think
the
299
project
has
very
low,
affordable
units.
In
fact,
it
is
a
record
for
all
in
which
the
project
is
to
make
299
thousand
oaks
olive
groves
a
new
project,
and
they
just
put
it
on
for
the
first
land.
Recently
it
's
a
trophy
winner.
I.
A
C
C
Asking
about
the
square
foot,
the
cost
of
the
square
today
that
they
are
using
for
the
construction
of
the
apartment
type
will
be
like
100
or
125
per
square
foot,
as
soon
as
it
is
today
is
no
I
know
what
that
number
is,
but
it's
not
125
because
square
I,
honestly,
don't
know
what
the
number
is.
Does
anyone
have
any
insight
on
you
guys
that
they
are
here?
We
can
find
out
it.
C
C
C
Are
held
to
a
much
higher
standard
than
the
housing
index
in
the
market,
so
one
I
lived
in
a
unit
is
affordable.
They
cost
more
than
the
index,
that
is
in
the
market
because
it
is
designed
to
hold
in
a
certain
way
they
have
to
meet
certain
state
requirements,
and
that's
where
I
put
my
comment
on
the
part,
this
terrible
actually
karen
has
been
very
patient.
Thank
you
for
your
questions.
C
Thank
you
for
not
such
that
I'm
persistent.
These
are
really
general
questions.
Mind
was
doing
more
research.
The
current
general
plan
and
the
current
zoning
notice
that
the
current
land
use
guidelines-
let's
say
low
density,
is
four
and
a
half
housing
units,
and
now
for
neighborhoods
of
two
to
six
homes
per
acre.
It
seems
as
if
they
have
created
a
new
category.
C
C
The
areas
that
I
am
going
to
say
the
areas
outside
the
change
that
you
already
know
the
areas
outside
the
areas.
Instead,
we
are
looking
at
the
assignments
there
and
I
am
still
pending.
What
we
are
trying
to
do
is
create
more
stratification.
It
is
based
on
the
type
of
housing
we
have
seen
that
is
built
in
the
city.
C
There
is
a
note
in
the
summary,
the
free
summary
that
says
that
we
have
stratification
it's
so
two
of
six
is
a
very
wide
range,
but
we
launch
to
end
u
with
finally
2
to
4
4
to
6,
but
we're
all
working
throu
h
that
once
layering
is
bigge,
it's
fou,
r
and
a
half
to
fifteen,
and
when
we
th
nk
of
this
as
plan
planners,
we
think
about
the
types
of
buildings
in
a
single
family
house
on
different
lots
can
feel
tame.
It's
not
the
same.
C
C
C
Yes,
that
got
me
out
of
the
loop,
because
I
was
looking
at
the
whole
citation
initially
I
thought
well,
216
houses
potentially
and
then
I
did
the
maximum
density.
Yesterday
as
162-
and
that's
not,
my
next
question
is
looking
at
the
summary
book.
Thank
you
very
much
that
included
some
representative
photos
of
what
the
buildings
could
look
like.
They
are
not
architectural
drawings
feeling
that,
but
seeing
throughout
the
presentation
and
various
photos
or
drawings
and
areas
that
are
called
commercial,
regional
with
fr,
2.0
I
saw
photos
or
drawings.
C
That
could
be
anything
from
a
commercial
to
five-story
hotels.
Is
that
right?
So
that's
The
trade
zone
is
actually
a
very,
very
large
range.
If
you're
right,
that's
a
very
good
read
of
the
document
and,
as
you
know,
we're
going
to
have
all
these
talks
about
the
stratification
on
the
trade
zone
and
allocations,
and
if
you
have
any
comments,
concerns
about
that.
C
Please
let
us
know
what
you
think
and
this
commercial
area
is
designed
to
be
quite
flexible.
It
could
handle
everything
from
a
regional
mall
like
one
to
offices,
so
it
can
even
handle
a
hotel
if
possible,
it's
a
range
of
different
things.
My
next
question
is
bigger
question,
but
in
your
experience
as
a
planner,
when
you
have
something
that's
really
in
a
flood
zone,
how
tight
are
the
mediation
boundaries
that
are
required.
C
Is
it
really
to
build
it
outside
of
this
flow
area?
What
are
the
requirements
for
that?
I
don't
know
specifically
all
the
requirements
that
are
there,
but
I
think
there
is
another
whole
process
for
what
happened,
e
and,
ideally
we're
trying
to
build
and
things
and
come
up
with
plans
that
allow
for
that
flexibility
in
the
future.
So
I
don't
know
exactly
I
think
there
are
some
areas
on
that
property
that
you're
talking
about
where
you
can
build
and
do
a
combination
of
natural
and
built
improvements,
but
honestly
I,
don't
know
what
they
would
be.
C
C
C
A
C
Could
be
greatness
by
development,
but
my
experience
is
not
like
that
once
all
the
necessary
improvements
have
been
developed
without
further
ado
by
the
developer.
6
thanks
and
thanks
to
everyone
who
has
been
here
on
the
day
of
the
really
22
questions
appear
with
a
quick
one
like
a
comment
that
was
made
about
the
combination
of
use
and
loss
of
leadership
and
the
second.
What
were
you
talking
about?
The
people
talking
about
the
people
who
filled
out
the
surveys,
making
public
comments
and
I
know?
C
C
C
C
We
try
to
get
one
of
the
new
ones
of
the
alternatives
of
the
questions
in
the
survey.
To
be
honest,
we
have
a
lot
more
questions
than
these.
There
are
a
lot
of
questions
we're
going
to
try
to
look
at
the
general
direction
that
we
have
from
the
feedback
that
we
get
both
in
the
survey
and
outside
of
it
and
make
a
recommendation
based
on
what
we
're
seeing
there.
C
C
Municipal
council,
which
way
they
want
to
go
and
796
75%,
wanted
it
from
one
way.
This
is
our
recommendation
for
that,
but
here
is
what
we
are
taking
into
account,
and
this
is
how
we
are
going
to
present
it
so
that
we
are
not
presenting
what
we
think.
What
is
the
direction
based
on
what
we
have
heard.
C
Well,
I
was
also
telling
someone
about
sharing
send
emails
on
the
maps.
There
is
a
limit
to
how
much
information
you
can
put
in
the
bubbles
where
you
can
put
comments.
There
is
a
limit.
I,
don't
know
if
you
are
reaching
a
limit.
There
is
a
limit,
but
the
invitation,
let
us
know
in
a
page
and
a
half
in
a
comment
bubble.
I
would
say
that
it's
not
the
best
way
to
do
it
then,
and
they
have
a
lot
of
comments
like
that.
C
Probably
they
want
to
be
offline
with
us
and
put
it
what's
the
best
way
for
their
comments
to
get
to
us
thanks.
Let's
see,
quick
mixed
use
under
the
table.
Idea'
mixed
use
ultimately,
is
a
combination
of
things.
So
one
is
that
they're
creating
an
area
that
you
want
to
be
walkable
in
the
lower
part
of
the
building.
C
It
has
to
be
active,
interesting,
you're,
never
going
to
walk
a
white
wall
on
a
street
for,
and
people
which
is
fun
for
us
and
finally,
is
what
it
is
trying
to
do
with
this
mixture
of
the
use
of
buildings
and
the
other
is
to
create
a
commercial
space
for
people
to
have
services.
There
is
a
little
bit
of
confusion
that
the
commercial
space
in
the
lower
part
of
a
building
is
not
correct,
the
ones
that
come
on
top
of
that.
C
C
C
C
A
C
A
C
C
A
C
A
B
This
is
going
to
be
a
long
answer.
Sorry,
what
we're
trying
to
see
is
how
to
normalize
everything
so
that
whatever
it
is
designates,
tion
of
land
use
exists
there,
so
as
not
to
have
to
get
involved
in
this
transfer
process.
One
of
the
challenges
we
have
to
have
is
a
map
of
land
use.
At
this
time
it
has
cause
us
to
raise
a
specific
plan
that
allows
30
units
per
acre
and
50
feet.
B
If
one
actually
has
the
general
plan
to
be
able
to
build,
but
it
is
not
on
the
books
at
the
moment,
if
we
do
it
hypothetically,
it
would
be
more
one
thousand
184
81
thousand
184,
and
we
don't
want
it
to
be
more
of
that
in
the
future.
When
we're
in
a
zoned
area
of
4.5
to
15
un
ques
per
acre,
you
can
do
it,
you
just
ransfer
it
back
and
forth.
I
thi
k,
I've
made
it
all
more
confu.
B
Ing,
sorry
I
think
it's
part
of
the
answer
of
the
general
plan
that
is
eliminating
all
this
should
have
existed
before.
It's
the
simplest
answer
to
the
question:
we're
going
to
put
a
time
stamp
on
it
because
we're
not
going
I'm
going
to
do
all
this
banking
stuff,.
That's
not
the
plan
at
the
moment,.
A
B
A
A
A
A
B
A
B
A
B
B
I'm
in
the
glen
process
and
I
went
to
different
stores
and
places
and
I
asked
what
the
salaries
were
for
people
who
worked
there
and
you
are
out
of
line
out
of
line
of
the
rents
that
are
charged
in
the
city.
So
if
someone
earns
17
dollars
an
hour,
it's
34
thousand
dollars
a
year
and
if
30%
of
his
salary
is
12,000,
he
would
have
to
pay
a
thousand
dollars
a
month
at
30
percent
of
income.
B
A
B
B
It
seemed
to
me
that
the
figure
of
81,000
is
the
maximum
for
construction.
Yes,
it
is
the
maximum
figure
of
construction,
specifically
in
the
specific
plan
of
causa
ocs,
and
it
was
carried
out
thinking
that
the
excess
capacity
would
be
done
elsewhere
and
in
residential
units
areas
of
causa
knox
boulevard,
but
I
think.
The
point
is
that
once
the
new
general
plan
is
adopts
this,
it
has
to
stay
at
that
level
of
81,000
throughout
the
city.
That
is
the
plan.
B
B
So
one
is
not
necessarily
that
infrastructure
in
a
plan
like
this,
because
it
is
something
theoretical
in
theory
if
it
happens
later,
and
the
infrastructure
and
the
analysis
happens
as
part
of
this
continuous
process.
Essentially,
the
infrastructure
is
made
for
development
and
not
for
the
way
reverse.
B
B
B
B
B
There
is
a
very
real
concern
that
the
cost
of
income,
public
services,,
that
the
income
that
comes
from
the
municipality
is
not
enough,,
and
there
is
a
book
where
all
this
information
that
I
already
mentioned
to
you,,
where
it
says
the
evolution
of
this
city-
needs
a
change
in
this
city.
Compared
to
tax
revenue.
B
There
is
a
concern
because
you
all,
of
course,
expect
a
high
level
of
service
and
that
everything
can
be
done
to
continue
that
quality
of
high
quality
service.
As
you
know,
retail
businesses
include
a
lot
of
those
numbers
and
the
numbers.
Car
sales
have
gone
down
overall,
but
over
time,
retail
sales
have
gone
down
and
infrastructure
taxes
have
gone
down.
That's.
B
A
very
complicated
question:
how
do
you
pay
for
new
development?
A
lot
has
to
do
with
impact
fees.
You
calculate
the
amount
of
the
development,
the
cost
of
the
infrastructure,
the
improvements
and
spread
this
across
the
development.
Once
again,
it
is
complicated
for
each
jurisdiction,
but
others
do
it
this
way.
B
But
that
is
the
idea
behind
all
this,
and
one
of
the
basic
ideas
is
to
create
a
plan
in
which
there
are
revenues
and
taxes
that
continue
to
support
municipal
services
of
high
quality
so
that
the
improvements
are
paid
for
the
structure.
We
have
many
many
roads,
many
highways,
the
wider.
The
city
is
spread
out
the
more
spaces
that
must
be
maintained
in
1963,
the
cost
of
expanding
cities
was
discussed.
That
is
there.
It
must
be
maintained,
but
the
new
infrastructure
and
the
new
costs.
B
Forum
number
2
the
math
of
smart
growth,
because
we
can't
keep
building
that
way.
Well.
To
summarize,
I
correctly
understand
that
you
say
that
most
the
payments
for
our
infrastructure
and
the
improvements
come
from
the
organizers.
The
improvements
to
support
new
development
and
I
think
I
want
to
have
to
talk
about
that
again,
a
lot.
It
is
a
deferred
understanding
to
the
existing
maintenance.
A
B
B
We
try
to
do
it
at
different
times.
They
use
Saturday
1
during
the
day
Well,,
depending
on
people's
schedules,.
That
will
be
the
last
one,
as
Michael
said,.
The
survey
was
postponed
on
March
15,,
but
I
would
like
to
recommend
that
everyone,.
If
you
know
what
you
want
to
say
in
the
survey,,
please
submit
it
as
soon
as
possible..
That
would
definitely
help
us.
B
B
B
We
are
going
to
want
to
be
transparent
about
all
of
this,
because
we
are
making
these
recommendations
so
with
this
I
want
to.
Thank
you
all
for
taking
the
moment
is
all
the
moment
today.
The
conversations
were
very
good.
These.
These
are
very
difficult
things.
They
are
emotional,
emotional.
We
greatly
appreciate
your
consideration.