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Thousand Oaks Planning Commission Meeting - 6/5/2023
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Mcmahon
president,
commissioner,
Kettle
Hut
has
an
excused
absence
due
to
a
family
emergency
item
number
four
written
comments:
announcements,
supplemental
packet
continuances
tonight
we
have
with
us
planning
division
manager,
Steve
Kearns,
Mr
Kearns.
Are
there
any
written
comments,
announcements
or
continuances?
At
this
time
we.
F
Don't
have
any
continuances
this
evening,
but
we
did
submit
two
supplemental
packets
admission,
one
on
Friday
afternoon,
which
contained
a
the
development
agreement
and
a
link
to
the
environmental
document
for
item
7B.
And
this
afternoon
we
submitted
a
supplemental
packet
containing
a
letter
of
support
for
that
same
item.
C
Thank
you
and
I
understand.
We
do
not
have
any
public
comments
at
this
time.
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Okay,
can
we
have
the
role
please.
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1
that
the
Planning
Commission
is
to
consider
approval
of
the
final
mitigated
negative
declaration
and
mitigated
mitigating
mitigation
monitoring
and
Reporting
program
prepared
in
accordance
with
the
California
Environmental
Quality
act
Sequel,
and
to
approved
demolition
of
an
existing
820
space
surface
parking
lot
and
develop
a
new,
approximately
120,
348
square
foot,
one
story:
industrial
Warehouse,
building
with
approximately
191
surface
parking
spaces,
Associated,
Hardscape,
landscape
lighting
and
infrastructure
improvements
on
an
approximately
6.6
Acre
Site.
The
project
includes
a
waiver
request
to
exceed
the
maximum
height
from
the
prescribed
35
to
37
Feet.
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The
removal
of
two
oak
trees
to
be
replaced
on
a
three
to
one
ratio:
modifications
to
conditions
associated
with
tentative
parcel
map
4013
and
to
allow
the
merger
of
three
Parcels.
The
project
site
has
General
planned
use
of
industrial
is
within
specific
plan:
15
Rancho
Conejo
Industrial
Park
SB
15
and
his
zoned
Industrial
Park
M1,
located
at
1300
Lawrence
Drive
2350
and
2400
Corporate
Center
Drive,
assessors
Parcels
numbers.
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C
C
I'm
glad
you
have
to
do
that
and
I
I
don't
have
to
do
that.
Presenting
on
behalf
of
behalf
of
staff
is
interim
planning
manager,
Scott
kolitz,
whenever
you're
ready
well.
H
Thank
you,
chair
McMahon,
members
of
the
Planning
Commission
and
members
of
the
public
tonight.
We
are
here
to
review
the
project
that
our
secretary
just
announced
to
you
I'm
not
going
to
give
another
summary
of
that
at
this
moment,
but
I
also
want
to
let
the
planet
commission
know
that
I'm
joined
here
by
some
colleagues
City
staff
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
as
well
as
our
environmental
consultants.
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So
the
request
before
you
I'm,
going
to
go
and
kind
of
take
these
piece
by
piece.
So
you
know
what
is
up
here
is
to
approve
the
environmental
document
and
the
following
permits,
subject
to
recommended
conditions
of
approval,
in
particular
development
plan.
The
development
plan
is
to
allow
the
demolition
of
an
existing
parking
lot
and
develop
a
new,
approximately
120
000
square
foot.
H
The
request
includes
a
land
division,
minor
modification
specifically
to
modified
conditions,
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9
and
10
of
the
underlying
parcel
map
that
was
approved
for
the
site.
Those
conditions
relate
to
site
access
to
the
property,
there's
also
a
parcel
map
waiver,
which
is
requested
tonight,
and
that's
to
allow
the
merger
of
three
different
Parcels
into
one
parcel
and
a
quick
claim
and
easement
for
reciprocal
parking
access
and
incidental
purposes
related
to
these
three
parcels.
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One
item
that
we
make
reference
to
in
the
staff
report
is
a
landscape
plan
check.
That's,
ultimately,
a
ministerial
process,
that's
staff
will
review
and
that's
essentially
to
confirm
that
the
landscape
plan,
that's
being
proposed,
would
be
consistent
with
the
protected
tree.
Permit.
That's
before
you,
as
well
as
the
city's
landscape
and
irrigation
standards,
the
city's
forestry
master
plan,
Ventura,
County,
Fire,
Department's,
prohibited
plant
list
and
Associated
standards
regarding
landscaping,
irrigation
and
stuff,
both
at
the
county
level,
as
well
as
at
the
state
level.
H
And
finally,
we
have
the
mitigated
negative
declaration
before
you,
which
includes
a
mitigated
negative
sorry,
the
the
mitigation
monitoring
reporting
program
just
to
ensure
that
we
implement
the
various
mitigation
measures
embedded
into
that
document
as
part
of
the
project
conditions.
We
do
want
to
note
that
the
project
is
coming
before
the
Planning
Commission,
primarily
because
of
the
the
height
waiver
request
that
maybe
not,
even
primarily,
because
of
the
height
waiver
request.
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The
other
aspects
of
this
project
could
have
been
approved
by
the
director,
had
it
not
been
for
that
request,
but
because
the
other
item,
or
because
the
project
is
dependent
on
those
other
items,
the
entire
project
has
been
brought
before
the
Planning
Commission.
To
consider
the
whole
of
the
project
before
you
tonight
give
a
quick
bit
of
background
on
the
project.
In
1984,
the
project
site
Parcels
were
created
by
Ventura
County
as
part
of
a
14
parcel
subdivision.
These
Parcels
were
recorded
in
1987.
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We
jump
forward
a
few
years
from
there
and
in
1997
the
Thousand
Oaks
Planning
Commission
approved
a
special
use
permit
major
modification
to
allow
the
construction
of
the
820
space
parking
lot.
That's
on
the
site
today
and
those
part
that
parking
lot
was
supplemental
parking
for
the
WellPoint
billing
center
That
Was
Then,
located
at
2100
Corporate
Center
Drive.
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In
addition,
in
2018
the
site
was
subleased
out
to
allow
152
parking
spaces
to
be
utilized
for
delivery
Vans
to
park
there
overnight
and
in
2019.
A
second
application
was
submitted
for
an
additional
247
delivery,
Vans
to
be
parked
parked
overnight
on
the
site,
but
both
of
those
applications
have
been
avoided
and
withdrawn.
As
of.
B
H
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The
project,
as
seen
in
this
map,
is
within
an
urbanized
area
with
transportation
and
utility
infrastructure
currently
in
place.
The
site's
approximately
0.75
miles
north
of
Highway
101.,
the
project
site
is
also,
and
the
surrounding
vicinity
is
fairly
flat.
The
Topography
of
this
individual
parcel
descends
slightly
from
the
southeast
corner
of
the
property
towards
both
Lawrence
Drive,
as
well
as
Corporate
Center
Drive
existing
grades
across
the
site
average
between
one
to
three
percent
slope
and
then
surrounding
development,
includes
a
variety
of
commercial
industrial
and
office
uses
in
all
directions.
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Sidewalks
are
to
be
added
along
both
frontages
as
part
of
this
project,
and
all
driveways
and
internal
circulation
have
been
reviewed
by
our
fire
department
and
Public
Works
team,
and
they
are
designed
to
accommodate
for
larger
Vehicles,
including
fire
trucks
and
tractor
trailers
of
the
191
parking
spaces
that
are
proposed
on
the
site.
34
of
those
would
be
designed
for
electric
vehicle
stalls
and
infrastructure
for
future
electrical
vehicle
charging
for
both
Medium,
as
well
as
heavy
duty
charging
will
be
installed
with
this
project.
H
So
we
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
then
following
your
review,
and
if
you
follow
staff's
recommendation
approval,
the
developer
would
move
forward
with
their
building
permits
and
we
anticipate
that
building
and
Grading
of
the
project
site
would
take
approximately
seven
months
to
complete,
and
that
would
consist
of
demolition,
debris
and
vegetation
clearance.
The
grading,
which
would
include
both
the
excavation
and
recompaction
of
soils
and
then,
finally,
the
construction
activities
to
complete
the
project.
H
So
those
would
carry
forward
with
any
future
entitlement
that
we
would
look
at
foreign
with
the
project
summary.
As
far
as
the
architectural
design
of
the
building
it
reflects
the
industrial
vernacular
found
in
the
Rancho
Conejo
area,
a
simple
form
in
the
open
interior
spaces
of
the
building
provides
for
maximum
flexibility
for
future
tenants,
while
the
form
of
the
building
is
simple.
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H
The
existing
Landscaping
would
be
replaced
in
its
entirety,
with
124
new
trees
being
planted
on
the
site,
shrubs
various
hearty
and
drought,
tolerant,
perennial
ground
cover,
the
Landscaping
provides
perimeter,
Landscaping
pack,
some
trees
along
the
building
and
the
Primitive
Landscaping
would
reduce
light
from
vehicle
headlights
and
the
landscape
escaped
trees.
H
Specifically,
a
majority
of
the
landscape
species
have
been
taken
from
the
Newbury
Park
section
of
the
forest
remaster
plan,
so
we
just
wanted
to
share
that
with
you,
as
well
as
far
as
grading
for
the
project
site.
The
project
site
would
be
over
excavated
and
then
recompacted
to
provide
a
stable
base
for
the
building's
foundation
and
the
parking
areas.
H
The
applicant
proposes
approximately
40
000
cubic
yards
of
cut,
which,
which
would
happen
on
the
side
and
then
approximately
33
000
cubic
yards
of
fill
to
help
represent
what
that
means.
We've
prepared
this
graphic
on
the
site.
The
pink
areas
represent
the
cut
that
would
be
lowered
on
the
side
and
then
the
green
areas
represent
the
fill
so
where
it
would
be
raised.
H
H
Lighting
would
be
typical
for
Industrial
Development.
All
lighting
would
be
downward
facing
shielded
and
limited
in
brightness.
The
building
Lighting
in
particular
would
be
limited
to
points
of
Ingress
and
egress
security
lighting
and
accent
lighting.
A
parking
lot
lighting
would
include
pole
mounted
lights
throughout
the
proposed
parking
area.
Wall
mounted
security
lights
along
the
perimeter
of
the
proposed
building
and,
finally,
any
future
signage
that
would
be
included
would
be
internally
illuminated.
Tenant
wall
signs,
monument
and
directional
signs,
foreign.
H
So
the
product,
the
project
retains
similar
access
to
the
existing
parking
lot.
That's
out
there
today.
The
existing
access
points
along
Lawrence
Drive
would
be
retained
in
the
same
location.
The
access
point
along
Corporate
Center
Drive,
would
be
shifted
to
the
east.
The
Traffic
Division
has
reviewed
and
approved
the
access
points
and
I
bring
this
up,
because
this
is
tied
to
the
Land
Development
minor
modification
before
you.
H
It's
just
the
condition
is
being
changed
to
match
the
existing
condition.
Number
nine
is
to
be
modified
to
allow
existing
access
on
Lot
2
to
be
moved,
approximately
60
feet
further
to
the
South,
and
that
would
move
it
away
from
the
intersection
of
Lawrence,
Drive
and
Corporate
Center
Drive
and
again,
the
existing
access
and
the
proposed
access
are
aligned.
So
we're
really
just
changing
the
paper.
If
you
will
to
allow
that
condition
to
continue.
H
In
addition
to
that,
we
reviewed
the
project
for
consistency
with
the
economic
development
plan,
and
we
found
that
it
is
consistent
with
the
economic
development
plan,
our
strategic
plan,
as
it
diversifies
the
employment
base
and
contributes
to
the
fiscal
health
of
Thousand
Oaks.
It
results
in
short-term
economic
growth
during
the
construction
of
the
facility
and
then
results
in
the
long-term
growth
through
the
employment
of
approximately
360
people,
and
this
facility
could
also
be
used
by
the
surrounding
industrial
uses
in
this
area
to
help
further
support
our
our
businesses
in
the
community.
H
Today
we
reviewed
it
for
the
project
for
consistency
with
our
zoning
regulations,
and
the
project
is
compliant
with
all
of
the
development
standards.
With
the
exception
of
the
maximum
height
allowed
in
the
M1
Zone
District,
the
Planning
Commission
does
have
the
authority
to
Grant
a
waiver
to
increase
the
maximum
Building
height.
H
So
I'm
going
to
go
into
a
couple
of
slides
about
the
building
height,
just
to
walk
us
through,
what's
actually
being
requested,
so
to
attract
the
highest
caliber
tenants.
Industrial
buildings
are
regularly
designed
with
higher
interior,
clear
Heights
to
provide
for
future
tenant
needs,
such
as,
but
not
limited
to
Mechanical
cranes
to
move
equipment
and
goods,
state-of-the-art
research
and
design
spaces,
high
capacity
racking
systems,
as
well
as
fire
suspensions
suppression
systems.
H
What
we
find
is
that
the
equipment
could
be
set
back
between
20
to
25
feet
from
either
of
those
edges,
and
you
wouldn't
see
it
based
on
the
exhibits
being
provided
to
us
today
to
minimize
the
perceived
height
of
the
building.
The
building
is
further
set
back
onto
the
property
than
required
by
the
front
and
side
yard
setbacks.
H
H
We
also
look
at
neighboring
developments.
This
this
building
is
similar
to
other
development,
in
particular
long
Corporate,
Center,
Drive,
2201,
Corporate
Center
Drive
is
36
feet
tall.
H
B
H
The
project
site
does
contain
three
oak
trees
on
site
which
were
not
intentionally
permitted.
Sorry
intentionally
planted
on
the
project
site,
they're,
considered
oak
trees,
most
likely
the
result
of
squirrels
doing
the
things
that
squirrels
do
and
leaving
the
oak
trees
there
of
the
three
volunteer
oak
trees.
Two
have
now
grown
large
enough
to
receive
protection,
so
in
particular
this
is
Oak
Tree
number
134
located
on
the
project
site.
H
H
Staff
and
the
developer
spoke
about
different
configurations
of
the
parking
lot
to
try
to
retain
the
trees
that
are
being
proposed
to
be
removed,
and
it
was
determined
that,
no
matter
how
we
looked
at
the
project
site,
there
were
going
to
be
impacts
to
the
trees
that
were
going
to
necessitate
their
removal
in
relationship
to
grading
for
the
projects
for
the
site.
A
combination
of
preparing
the
the
parking
lot,
the
building
pad
the
utilities,
all
those
different
things
that
go
into
the
project
site.
H
Ultimately,
we
were
not
able
to
save
the
the
trees,
but
the
applicant
is
designed
the
applic.
The
project
is
designed
inconsistent
with
our
tree
protection
standards,
which
requires
on-site
tree
mitigation,
specifically
two
24-inch
box
trees
and
one
36-inch
box
tree
to
be
planted
for
each
oak
tree
that
would
be
removed
so
to
show
you
how
that
works
on
on
the
site.
H
The
green
circles
that
I'm
bringing
up
right
now
represent
the
total
of
four
24
inch
box
trees.
Coast
live
oak
trees
that
would
be
planted
on
the
site
and
then
the
second
series
of
circles
represents
the
36
inch
pocket
box
trees,
Coast
dive
look
tree
coast
live
oak
trees
that
would
be
replanted
on
the
site,
so
the
project
is
found
to
be
consistent
with
the
purposes
and
intent
of
our
oak
tree
protection
guidelines.
H
Our
Traffic
Division
and
Public
Works
reviewed
the
project
for
consistency
with
our
standards,
and
they
found
that
the
project
would
generate
a
net
increase
of
22
PMP
hour
trips,
and
that
means
that
the
project
meets
the
city's
trip
generation
screening
criteria,
because
it
would
create
less
than
100
peak
hour
trips.
Therefore,
the
project
did
not
need
a
site-specific
traffic
study
or
a
VMT
analysis.
H
And
bring
it
around
the
corner.
Here
we
did
review
the
project
for
consistency
with
the
California
Environmental
Quality
Act,
which
was
consisted
of
a
comprehensive
evaluation
of
the
potential
environmental
impacts
for
this
project
and
the
m
d
evaluated
the
Project's
physical
development
and
uses
reasonable
and
foreseeable
impact.
This
evaluation
determined
that
the
project
would
not
have
a
significant
effect
on
the
environment.
H
I
H
In
addition,
public
notifications
were
sent
out
for
both
SQL
notification,
as
well
as
the
Planning
Commission
hearing
tonight
in
total
staff
received
one
public
correspondence
regarding
the
proposed
project.
Since
all
of
these
hearings,
all
these
notices
were
sent
out.
The
correspondence
requested
mature
Landscaping
to
be
planted
along
the
public
right-of-way
that
a
correspondence
was
attached
in
the
staff
report
and
there's
a
condition
of
approval
that
requires
Landscaping
to
be
installed
that
would
range
from
a
15
gallon
trees
up
to
48
inch
box
trees.
H
So,
in
conclusion,
the
proposed
project
has
been
designed
to
meet
the
city's
General
plan,
our
policies,
standards
and
codes.
The
proposed
building,
design
and
site
layout
integrates
well
with
the
surrounding
development
and
has
a
cohesive,
architectural
and
Landscape
designed
to
attract
the
highest
caliber.
Tenants
based
on
the
analysis
and
the
findings
contained
in
this
report.
H
Staff
recommends
that
the
Planning
Commission
approved
the
m
d,
has
written
for
the
project
and
approved
the
project
subject
to
the
conditions
of
approval
in
the
attached
resolution,
and
our
recommendations
are
as
identified
on
the
screen
and
with
that
staff
is
here
for
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
So
thank
you
for
listening
to
our
presentation.
Thank.
J
Chair,
thank
you,
Mr
politz
for
a
detailed
reporting,
a
a
oral
report
that
answered
a
lot
of
the
questions
that
I
was
going
to
have
so
I
appreciate.
Also
I
I,
like
the
the
graphics.
By
the
way,
those
were
very
helpful.
I
did
have
a
few
clarifying
just
questions
and
again,
mostly
just
to
make
sure
I
understand
kind
of
some
of
the
issues.
The
parking
spaces
themselves
were
for
a
different.
You
know
well
point
that
no
longer
is
using
them.
J
H
That
is
correct
and
to
remove
any
confusion
that
they
may
be
associated
with
another
development.
That's
why
we're
modifying
our
processing
the
parcel
map
to
delete
the
sorry,
we're
untangling
the
permits,
if
you
will
so
correct
this
is
this-
is
a
standalone
project
all.
J
J
J
You
again
hit
my
your
first
comment
hit
my
my
question.
The
only
reason
we're
here
it
sounds
like
is
the
two
feet:
parapet.
That's.
H
J
So
my
again,
the
implication
is
that
all
of,
if
it
weren't
for
that
the
staff
and
the
the
director
would
have
approved
this
application,
all
the
other
parts
were
in
agreement
with
our
codes
and
rules.
Yes,
you
also
indicate
the
parapet.
Itself
is
not
going
to
be
covering
currently
or
at
least
not
contemplated
any
existing
equipment.
That's
been
provided,
but
it
sounds
like
future
potential
equipment
just
to
clarify
what
equipment
would
that
be.
H
J
H
There's
a
condition
of
approval
that
we
included
within
the
resolution
that
effectively
would
put
the
onus
on
a
potential
10
inch
developer
to
prove
to
staff
through
a
line
of
sight
study
that
everything
would
be
pushed
back
specifically.
We
also
require,
as
part
of
that
condition,
that
brochures
of
whatever
equipment
would
be
provided
to
staff.
So
we
know
exactly
what
height
it
would
be
as
well
as
whatever
separation
distance.
It
would
need
off
the
roof
that
might
actually
increase
the
height
of
that
equipment.
J
Okay,
all
right
that
makes
sense,
and
then
we
have
we're
protected
in
that
regard
at
some
point
again,
I'm
just
trying
to
make
sure
I
understand
at
some
point.
The
report
gives
us
three
options
to
approve
conditionally
approve
or
disapprove
the
project
I
didn't
know
if
there
was
something
I
was
not
aware
of,
as
opposed
to
conditionally
approved.
Was
that
just
in
case
we
wanted
to
make
changes.
That's.
J
Want
to
make
sure
there
wasn't
a
third
option.
I
was
not
previously
aware
of.
You
talked
about
merging
a
lot,
so
it'll
be
one
lot.
They'll
do
a
lot
line
adjustment.
That's.
H
Well,
the
quick
claims
that
I
talked
about
will
take
care
of
any
sort
of
easement
issues
that
are
underlying,
but
in
effect,
all
three
Parcels
become
one
at
the
end
of
the
day,
so
the
building
which
is
being
proposed
could
be
built
where
it
is
otherwise
we'd
run
into
issues
with
the
building
straddling
property
lines.
Okay,.
J
And
then
my
last
question
essentially
right
now:
there's
no
contemplated
tenant.
Obviously
I
guess
we
could
look
at
one
tenant
filling
the
whole
thing.
But
again
it
sounds
like
there's
enough
flexibility
for
them
to
divvy
up
the
space
and
do
separate
units
correct.
H
That
is
ultimately
true
and,
depending
on
you
know
who
the
uses
would
be
and
and
what
modifications
they
would
need
to
make
to
the
building
that
would
be
subject
to
additional
future
permitting.
So
we're
really
looking
at
a
Shell
of
a
building
and
trying
to
be
as
conservative
as
possible
with
their
approach
for
what
could
be
in
the
building.
But.
G
Mr
coolest,
thank
you
again
for
your
presentation.
I
am
suffering
with
a
a
bit
of
cognitive
dissonance,
so
bear
with
me
as
I
cycle
analyze
myself
in
front
of
These
Fine
people.
You
just
mentioned
that
we
were
hoping
to
look
at
this
as
sort
of
the
the
most
conservative
test
case
for
what
could
be
developed,
and
that
was
going
to
be
one
of
my
questions.
G
But
what
sort
of
sticks
out
to
me
is
that
and
to
con
confess,
I
actually
thought
the
360
employees
was
going
to
be
the
construction,
so
I
conflated
the
two
paragraphs
with
each
other,
so
I'm
curious.
How
we'll
actually
know
how
sounds
like
we
arrived
at
the
22
peak
hour
trips
in
the
PM
based
on
the
warehousing
land
use
code,
for
it
that's
correct
that.
H
I
Sure
it's
great
okay,
good
evening
Commissioners.
So,
regarding
that
question
for
the
the
number
of
employees,
we
took
a
look
at
initially
the
square
footage
of
the
building
and
that's
where
we
came
using
the
ite
trip
generation
which
came
up
with
22
peak
hour
trips,
and
then
this
information
came
subsequently
regarding
the
number
of
employees,
and
we
did
look
at
that.
G
G
I
generally
like
to
have
my
pick,
our
trips
or
ADT
on
the
mark,
so
I
know
how
much
fees
to
actually
collect
so
just
throwing
that
out
there
too,
that's
an
ad
hoc
anyway.
The
other
question
I
had
so
with
regard
to
what
could
be
potentially
permitted.
Is
there
any
other
use
that
could
be
constructed
without
having
to
come
back
to
the
city
for
a
permit?
H
Right
now,
it's
the
warehousing
office
space
is
what
we're
looking
at
as
the
basis
of
this
particular
project,
any
other
uses
that
would
be
proposed
within
it.
We
would
need
to
do
an
analysis
based
on
that
proposal
at
that
point
in
time
to
see
if
it's
consistent
with
parking
and
other
things,
I
want
to
be
careful
not
going
down
that
path
too
far.
I
don't
want
to
go
speculative
on
all
of
us
and
keep
the
project
essentially
as
proposed
before
the
Planning
Commission
and
staff
today
understood.
G
H
F
Thanks
Mr
Collins,
there
are
a
number
of
uses
in
the
municipal
code
that
are
allowed
by
Wright
with
an
underlying
development
permit.
Each
one
of
those
uses
would
be
analyzed
for
parking
and
traffic
as
well,
so
it'd
be
its
own
evaluation
through
the
building
perimeter
tenant
improvement
process.
So
we
do.
We
still
do
look
at
the
impacts
appreciate.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation
and,
as
someone
has
who
uses
the
animation
features
of
PowerPoint
fantastic,
it
really
was
good.
Thank
you.
Your
presentation
did
in
fact
touch
directly
on
some
of
the
key
elements
that
I
had
of
asking
questions
of
staff,
so
they
were
answered
for
me
offline,
but
also
answered
the
presentation.
So
thank
you
just
a
couple
things
just
for
the
record
just
so
that
I
understand
The,
staff's
View
on
it.
E
I
know
there
are
oak
trees,
for
example,
have
been
referred
to
as
volunteer
Oaks,
primarily
providing
a
sense
of
giving
it
a
sense
of
how
they
came
to
be,
but
the
ordinance
has
no.
We
we
evaluate
it
based
on
the
fact
that
it
is
an
oak
tree
and
it
is
of
a
certain
size
right
that
is
correct,
okay
and
then,
when
it,
when
it
comes
to
and
I'm
looking
at
the
conditions
for
approval.
So
it's
more.
E
It
states
that
at
least
for
I'm,
specifically
thinking
about
134,
which
is
sort
of
a
one
of
the
trees
at
the
most
Northwest
portion,
which
happens
to
sit
within
the
the
Landscaping
plan.
It
says
in
this
case
they're
I'm
reading
from
the
conditions
of
approval.
In
this
case,
the
removal
is
necessary
for
reasonable
use
is
consistent
with
the
entirely
oak
tree
preservation
and
protection
ordinances.
E
Can
you
just
give
me
a
sense
that
you
you
did
touch
on
the
presentation?
It
wasn't
really
clear
from
the
oak
tree
report.
It
sort
of
said
that
tree
is
very
healthy
and
it
kind
of
interrupts
with
the
grading
plan.
So
we
should
remove
it.
I
think
it
sounded
like
there
was
a
in
significant
valuation
as
to
whether
it
the
the
grading
plan
could
be
achieved
and
there
would
still
be
impacts
on
the
tree.
H
I'm
getting
back
to
the
grading
plan,
so
the
grading
plan
is
on
the
screen
right
now
and
134
is
in
this
sorry,
as
my
screens
are
changing
on
me
and
this
General
location
and
effectively
working
with
the
developer
and
their
civil
engineers
to
achieve
the
site
layout,
the
drive
aisles,
the
the
utilities,
the
placement
of
the
building,
the
entire
site
needs
to
go
through
a
pretty
massive
grading
excavation.
I
H
Even
if
we
attempted
to
redesign
the
parking
lot
in
a
slightly
different
fashion,
we
were
finding
that
we're
impacting
the
root
structure
and
the
trunk
locations
of
the
Oaks
that
were
that
are
currently
on
site
in
such
a
way
that
we
are
harming
them
to
the
point
that
they
would
need
to
be
removed.
So
hearing
that
the
applicant
then
effectively
agreed
that
not
only
are
we
impacting
these
trees
in
that
sense,
but
we're
also
going
to
put
back
the
24
and
the
36
inch
box
trees
as
allowed
per
ordinance.
E
Thank
you
I
mean
just
the
additional
effort
to
understand
what
staff
has
gone
through
with
the
application.
The
applicant
to
understand
how
to
save
the
tree
in
this
particular
helps
me
understand
the
ability
to
support
the
finding.
Thank
you
just
last
thing:
I,
don't
know,
maybe
I
didn't
catch
it
was
there
any
changes
from
what
was
in
the
staff
report
to
we
currently
have
before
us
that
are
being
requested.
H
G
H
H
Let
me
double
check
that
as
we're
going
through
gotcha
in
the
title
of
the
resolution
that
was
essentially
to
give
a
clue
to
Future
team
members
that
might
be
researching
that
we
are
specifically
rescinding
that
permit
as
part
of
this
action
and
then
as
we
move
forward,
the
rest
of
the
permit
applies
to
the
permanent
Development
coming
forward.
Does
that
answer
the
question
for
you.
H
C
C
You
mentioned
two
other
properties
on
Corporate
Center
Drive
that
were
at
36
feet.
Did
those
properties?
Did
they
come
to
this
commission
and
ask
for
a
waiver
for
the
one
foot
hi.
H
I'm
getting
it
mixed
up
in
my
head
and
I.
Don't
have
my
notes
with
me
right
now:
one
of
these
was
approved
by
Ventura
County
and
then
one
had
been
approved
by
the
City
previously.
C
L
Peter
Spencer
Encinitas
California
I'd
like
to
say
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
this
project
tonight.
It's
a
pleasure
to
present
a
project
that
is
consistent
with
the
goals
of
the
city,
with
the
Minnesota
Municipal
Code
and
with
the
economic
goal.
So
it
makes
our
job
a
little
easier.
Just
to
ask
for
your
approval
that
we
follow
the
rules
and
the
aspirations
you
have
either
City.
L
Secondly,
I'd
like
to
say
thanks
to
Scott
and
his
staff,
for,
as
you
saw
in
that
report,
very
effective
communication,
very
transparent
communication,
and
we
set
out
to
be
in
a
June
hearing,
I
think
around
September
of
last
year,
and
and
here
we
are
delivering
from
Scott's
effort
and
our
effort
and
a
lot
of
other
team
members.
L
So
again,
just
again
thanks
Scott
appreciate
that,
and
we
look
forward
to
a
brief
description
of
our
project
tonight,
because
Scott
did
a
pretty
eloquent
job
of
walking
you
through
everything
before
I
get
started
with
that,
I
would
like
to
have
Dennis
Cruzan
come
up
and
he'll
give
us
30
seconds
about
our
firm.
Our
firm
is
Cruzan
his
last
name
and
actually,
while
you're
walking
up
here,
Troy
pollitt
is
also
a
partner
of
firm.
L
M
President
Dennis
Cruzan
and
I
live
at
650,
West,
Stafford
and
I
also
live
in
San
Diego
as
well
thanks
Pete
and
thank
you
to
the
Commissioners
for
kind
of
allowing
us
to
do
our
thing
up
here
and
and
as
as
Pete
talked
about
staff,
we
were
incredibly
impressed
with
staff
and
how
collaborative
it
was,
and
we
don't
you-
don't
always
get
that.
You
get
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
that
angle.
But
in
this
particular
case
your
team
did
a
great
job
and
we
really-
we
really
do
appreciate
it.
M
So
I
was
here
to
support
Pete
my
partner
and
and
Tom
Wood
who's,
the
project
manager
and
support
all
of
the
staff
and
all
of
you,
but
I'm
also
here
to
convince
you
that
we
are
yes,
we
office
in
San,
Diego
and
our
headquarters
are
there,
but
we're
not
quite
The
Interlopers
that
you
think
we
may
be,
and
by
that
I
mean
about
38
years
ago,
I
met
the
love
of
my
life
and
she
just
happened
to
grow
up
in
the
Shadow
Oaks
area
of
Thousand
Oaks,
with
her
nine
brothers
and
sisters
and
I
went
to
thousand
Oaks
High
School
and
I've
been
up
here.
M
Many
many
many
many
many
many
times
over
the
last
38
years
and
as
our
business
brought
me
up
here
more
and
as
we
grew
up
into
the
LA
Basin,
my
wife
decided
that,
wouldn't
it
be
great
if
we
had
a
second
home
here
and
so
for
for
the
last
five
years,
we've
split
time
between
here
and
San
Diego
as
well
so
I
feel.
M
L
I
mean
I,
don't
think
you
need
to
hear
a
ton
about
our
firm
we've
been
around
for
probably
about
20
years.
We
found
it
in
2002
and
we're
based
in
Southern
California.
We
have
a
couple
projects
up
in
the
Pacific
Northwest
that
some
clients
took
us
up
there
to
do.
But
the
map
that
you
see
in
front
of
you
right
now
are
the
assets
that
we
have
today
or
have
developed
and
and
subsequently
sold.
You
could
flip
onto
the
next
slide.
L
This
slide
is
just
a
representation
of
some
of
our
Equity
partners,
and
some
of
our
tenants
and
Cruzan
is
a
development
and
ownership
company
and
we
develop
multi-family
industrial
office.
But
we're
going
to
go
through
a
couple
of
slides
that
I
think
carry
forward
a
bigger,
a
bigger
message
than
we
develop
property.
But
what
we
do
is
we
develop
quality,
and
we
do
that
for
two
reasons:
one
we
always
see
ourselves
as
a
guest
in
the
community.
L
If
I'm
here
for
five
years,
10
years,
20
years,
it
doesn't
matter
how
long
I'm
not
going
to
be
here
forever.
So
what
I
do
is
going
to
outlast
my
involvement
in
the
community.
Secondly,
quality
assets
always
outperform
yeah
we're
in
a
tougher
time
in
the
office
world
right
now,
our
quality
assets
are
still
performing.
So
as
we
go
through
the
next
few
slides
we'll
talk
about
a
couple
of
our
projects
and
you'll,
hopefully
see
our
commitment
to
Quality,
and
that
is
our
goal
with
this
asset.
It
is
a
shell
industrial
building.
L
We
do
not
know
who
the
tenant's
going
to
be.
We
don't
know
what
kind
of
equipment's
going
to
go
up
on
the
roof.
We
don't
know
very
much
about
the
future
of
that,
but
we
do
know
that
if
we
build
the
right
building
with
the
right
base,
spacing
with
the
clear
height
of
32
feet,
as
Scott
mentioned,
is
an
industry
standard
to
support
Warehouse,
manufacturing
and
life
science.
L
This
building
is
being
proposed
as
a
warehouse
building,
but
sometime
in
the
future,
it
may
be
a
life
science
building
and
we
may
be
coming
back
for
you
for
a
substantial
conformance
to
say
we
do
have
the
parking
or
do
have
whatever,
but
today
we
are
trying
to
get
a
building
approved
that
will
allow
for
that
long-term
flexibility
of
the
site
next
slide
and
we
can
toggle
through
these
fairly
fast.
This
is
a
project
that
we
repositioned.
It
was
a
tired
industrial,
Flex,
industrial
building.
L
We
came
in
cleaned
it
up
added
some
new
improvements
and
we
landed
a
couple
of
life.
Science,
tenants,
Whiting,
Turner
Construction
is
a
tenant
of
ours.
It's
just
and
then
also
the
architect
of
this
particular
project
happened
to
become
a
tenant
of
ours
and
flip
on
the
next
one.
If
you
have
any
questions,
please
ask
this
is
a
project
we
have
up
in
in
Oregon,
it's
300
000
feet,
it's
Nike's
design
headquarters.
L
This
is
a
diamond
view.
Tower.
You
may
know
this.
If
you've
gone
to
any
pod
race
games,
we
were
not
the
developer
of
the
asset,
but
we
purchased
it
coming
out
of
the
2012
financial
crisis
and
we
repositioned
this
to
bring
more
retail
to
the
ground
floor,
more
activation
of
the
space,
more
connection
of
the
building
to
the
baseball
field
and
really
we
we
pushed
rents,
but
we
had
tenants
that
came
to
the
space
toured
the
space
and
said
we
have
to
be
here.
L
L
This
is
the
NASA
we
currently
own
right
now
in
Beverly
Hills,
it's
called
Wiltshire
and
palm
it's
a
historic
building,
again
same
situation,
the
previous
ownership.
It
was
low,
rent
rent
for
occupancy,
we
purchased
the
building.
We
made
some
significant
improvements
to
the
connection
to
the
public.
The
building
was
built
in
1960,
where
you
pulled
into
the
parking
garage
went
up
to
your
floor.
Obviously
the
world
has
changed.
We
like
to
come
on
on
public
transportation.
L
L
We
added
a
fitness
center
and
it's
and
you
may
have
seen
it
in
some
of
the
pictures-
very
consistent
fitness,
health,
lifestyle,
showers,
bikes,
that's
a
big
core
value
of
our
company,
and
this
is
one
where
we
just
came
in
and
gave
it
gave
it
a
refresh
and
we're
enjoying
some
very
high
rents
and
right
now,
in
this
market,
we're
enjoying
very
high
occupancy
in
it.
So
again,
a
testament.
L
If
you
build
a
space
that
people
want
to
be
in
and
they
want
to
come
to
work,
they
will
come
to
work
again
more
more
of
the
same.
This
is
a
building
we
built
up
in
or
re-renovated
up
in
Portland
and
is
now
the
corporate
headquarters
for
Lululemon
shoes.
Again,
it's
a
build,
a
great
building
put
in
a
great
fitness
facility.
If
you
build
the
right
Bones,
the
great
tenants
will
come
and
I
think
this
might
be
our
last
one.
But
this
is
a
great
project.
L
This
is
a
campus
that
we
purchased
in
San
Diego,
that
technology
company
was
downsizing
from
and
we
felt
there
was
a
shortage
of
amenity,
Rich
campuses
in
San
Diego.
This
was
prior
to
sort
of
the
Apple
Google
push
that
we've
seen
over
the
last,
maybe
five
to
seven
years,
but
this
was
a
campus
that
we
went
out
there
and
said
how
about
as
a
developer,
we
spec
the
cafe.
We
respect
the
fitness
center.
L
We
spec
outdoor
collaborative
spaces
we'll
create
all
the
Google
amenities
for
these
smaller
tenants
to
enjoy,
and
while
we
thought
we
were
going
to
get
successful
with
small
tech
companies,
Google
showed
up,
and
at
least
it
from
us.
So
we
did
a
good
job
on
that
one
too,
and
then
the
last
one
I
think
this
one
hopefully
is
the
last.
This
is
Township
14..
This
is
a
Redevelopment
project
in
San
Diego.
This
was
a
tired
asset
was
built
in
the
early
1980s
and
we
partnered
with
Tia
on
this
and
we
redeveloped
the
project
built.
L
Seventy
thousand
feet
of
new
the
building
in
the
upper
right
hand.
Corner
was
an
existing
building
that
we
pulled
the
skin
off
of
and
restructured,
and
this
was
a
great
example
of
us
working
with
the
city
of
San
Diego
and
said
we
have
126
000
feet.
How
can
we
redevelop
this
project
and
make
it
meet
today's
needs
without
going
through
a
discretionary
process,
and
so
through
a
collaborative
discussion
discussion
with
the
city,
we
found
a
vehicle
to
meet
their
needs
and
meet
our
needs,
and
it
was
a
very
successful
project.
L
We
leased
to
a
law
firm
so
now,
moving
on
to
the
to
the
subject
property.
These
are
just
higher
quality,
renderings
of
of
what
Scott
already
shared
with
you,
and
there
was
a
couple
of
questions
that
I
think
we
can
address
with
this.
Is
somebody
asked
a
question
about
multi-tenanting
it
we
are.
We
are
working
on
our
architectural
plans
right
now
and
within
the
facade
system.
L
We
are
preparing
structural
openings,
so
we
can
come
back
in
and
do
this
glass
system
in
the
future
it
would
have
to
be
cut
out,
but
the
building's
designed
to
accommodate
those
feature
tenants
again
back
to
that
Testament.
If
we
do
it
right
now,
it
will
be
easier
for
us
to
do
it
in
the
future.
The
next
slide
and
then
again
another
aerial
of
the
back
of
the
project.
You
can
kind
of
see
that
we've
screened
and
worked
diligently
to
make
sure
that
the
trucks
are
are
fairly
well
hidden
from
anybody.
L
Who's
going
to
drive
by
we've
got
a
screen
wall
in
the
in
the
mid
middle
right
hand,
side
of
that
picture
that
isn't
quite
as
robust
as
what
we've
been
told,
we're
going
to
have
to
do,
and
while
we
are
working
on
our
on
our
plans
right
now,
it's
it's
a
much
more
robust
screenwall
to
that.
But
again
we
look
at
this
project.
If
you
can
Envision
in
the
future,
those
roll-up
doors
might
be
glass.
We
may
come
back
and
say
we
need
more
parking.
L
We
need
to
understand
our
traffic,
but
this
building
is
built
to
work
today
as
warehouse,
but
it's
also
designed
to
work
in
the
future
as
manufacturing
as
life
science,
as
as
wherever
the
the
world
is
taking
us,
because
it
is
it's
changing
very
fast
and
we're
just
doing
our
best
to
make
sure
the
bones
are
there
and
then
we
can
probably
spin
these
really
fast.
These
are
a
couple
of
pictures
of
the
trees
and
and
Scott
covered
this
to
maybe
better
answer.
L
Your
question
about
the
grading:
this
site
was
mass
graded
back
in
the
1980s
and
it
was
basically
just
flattening
out
the
highs
and
lows
got
knocked
down
and
then,
when
they
came
in
and
made
the
parking
lot,
they
just
amended
the
top
couple
of
inches
of
it
and
put
down
the
the
asphalt
for
a
parking
lot
for
us
to
do
our
project.
We
have
to
cut
down
about
five
feet
because
that's
undocumented
fill,
so
that's
why
we
actually
just
have
to
move
a
bunch
of
dirt
around.
L
So
we
have
to
document
it
going
back
in
place.
We
tried
to
keep
the
oak
trees.
It
was
quite
a
bit
of
rock
wall
and
a
as
Scott
mentioned.
It
really
got
to
the
point
where
it
was
like
we're,
probably
going
to
kill
these
trees.
So,
let's
adjust
our
plan.
It's
it's
actually
cheaper
for
us
to
keep
the
trees,
but
it
was
going
to
be
so
impactful
to
the
development
and
it
was,
and
it
was
likely
that
the
trees
were
going
to
die
anyways.
L
We
felt
it
was
better
to
plan
for
some
of
the
big
specimen
replacement,
trees
and
move
ahead
with
the
removable
yeast
trees.
So
just
a
little
bit
more
color.
We
because
there's
so
much
undocumented
fill.
We
were
really
required
to
do
such
a
large
cotton
fill
and
I.
Don't
know
if
you
have
any
other
questions
of
us,
but
I
would
appreciate
any
comments,
feedbacks
or
concerns.
J
Thank
you,
Mr
Spencer
I,
just
a
few
questions
and
again
I
don't
mean
to
sound
insulting
by
my
first
question,
but
it's
one
of
those
things
again.
You
mentioned
the
community
and
I
always
want
to
make
sure
I'm
looking
forward
and
out
for
that.
Community
is
the
goal
here
to
actually
build
this,
or
are
you
looking
just
to
get
the
entitlements
and
then
flip
it
and
sell
it
to
somebody.
L
Else
the
goal
is
to
build
it
and
we
are.
We
are
very
rapidly
going
through
our
construction
drawings
right
now,
we're
into
the
city
with
our
architectural
permit
right
now.
We're
waiting
for
this
approval
to
submit
our
grading
permit
I
can't
promise
you
that
we're
going
to
build
it,
but
it's
it's
we're
we're
going
as
hard
as
we
can,
but
you
know
you
you
and
I
know
and
everyone
else
the
world
is
and
the
finance
markets
are
challenging,
but
it
is
Our
intention
too.
J
And
understanding
again
I'm
not
holding
this
to
you.
But
what
is
the
time
frame
you
think
you're
looking
at
in
terms
of
when
it
would
be
ready
for
occupancy.
L
J
One
of
the
the
process
there
was
an
attachment
for
that
had
a
few
conditions.
I
want
to
make
sure
you're
agreeable,
with
all
the
conditions
that
were
in
that
attachment
and
had
no
problem
with
them.
L
Yes,
we
are
agreeable,
those
conditions
and
we've
We've
run
down
every
Avenue.
We
have
possible
with
those.
So,
yes,
we
are
agreeable.
My.
J
E
J
E
C
N
Good
evening,
Sharon
McMahon
and
Commissioners
Danielle
Borgia,
president
CEO
of
the
Greater
Conejo
Valley
Chamber
of
Commerce,
and
also
a
Thousand
Oaks
resident
I,
just
wanted
to
share
our
chamber's
support
for
this
proposal.
That's
coming
forward
this
evening,
we
work
with
over
750
businesses
across
the
region
and
repurposing.
An
existing
parking
lot
into
potentially
over
300
jobs
is
certainly
an
economic
driver
for
our
community.
We've
seen
some
really
great
Tenants
come
into
Corporate
Center
Drive,
just
around
the
corner
from
this
project
in
most
notably
Tesla,
as
well
as
the
newest
Alexandria.
N
C
C
J
Think
Miss
Borgia
said
it
perfectly
I
I'm
very
focused
on
trying
to
find
a
strategic
repurposing
of
properties
and
having
an
empty
parking
lot.
That's
roped
off
and
not
used
by
anybody
seems
to
be
one
of
the
best
things
to
strategically
repurpose
I
I'm,
very
impressed
by
your
plans,
your
Concepts,
your
commitment,
the
models
you
showed
us
in
terms
of
the
other
projects
shows
a
commitment
to
a
quality
product.
That
I
think
is
exactly
what
I
want
to
see
in
our
our
city.
J
The
timing
and
the
motivation
and
commitment
you
have
to
doing
this
process
to
me
is
is
encouraging
again.
You
may
not
know,
but
I
get
frustrated.
Sometimes
when
we
have
all
these
things
that
we
look
at
and
approve
and
then
basically
nothing
happens.
So
I'm
I'm
impressed
that
you
actually
have
a
process
set
to
go
forward.
The
tree
issue
is,
is
problematic,
I
do
understand
in
terms
of
the
location
issue
and
the
fact
that
they
weren't
necessarily
planted
there
initially
I.
Do
the
the
term
volunteer.
J
Probably
is
a
interesting,
politically
correct
term,
but
I
I
do
appreciate
the
fact
that
those
aren't
necessarily
part
of
the
plans
and,
overall
again
I,
think
it's
a
good
project.
It
kind
of
goes
along
with
the
the
area
it
kind
of
fits
within
the
area.
I
understand
the
parapet.
Again.
Height
is
always
an
issue
with
regard
to
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
maintaining
an
overall
look.
J
G
E
Just
wanted
to
double
check,
I
I'm
I'm
in
favor
of
the
motion,
I
think
a
lot
of
times
we're
we're
asked
in
the
evaluation
of
the
project
to
provide
approval
of
removal
of
oak
trees.
Have
they
demonstrated
that
it
is
needed,
not
just
a
preference
I'm,
it's
it's
unfortunate
that
it
has
to.
It,
has
to
be
removed,
but
I
think
I'm,
convinced
based
upon
the
testimony
during
the
hearing
that
that's
the
case
and
for
that
reason,
I
can
support
it
it
it.
It
is
interesting.
E
I
know
we
sort
of
talked
about
it.
It's
like
the
only
reason
it's
here
is
because
there's
a
request
for
a
to
put
parapet
on
on
the
top
of
the
building.
That
said,
even
if
others
would
have
would
have
approved
it.
E
It
is
our
judgment
on
whether
we
think
it
should
be
approved
same
as
if
something
had
to
go
to
the
city
council,
it's
their
their
prerogative
on
whether
they
approve
it,
even
regardless
of
what
we
believe,
what
I
am
I'm
in
support
of
the
waiver
of
the
building
height,
primarily
because
it's
been
demonstrated
that
for
what
we
need
to
do
and
and
based
upon
the
the
property
itself,
it's
Justified
for
the
project
that
we
have
the
authority
based
upon
we're
evaluating
it
based
on
maximum
build
height
and
we're
asking
the
commission
to
do
the
waiver
and
we
have
the
authority
to
do
it
in
previous
cases,
I've
been
in
they
sort
of
said
well,
if
it's
40
feet
here
and
it's
30
feet
here,
then
on
average
it's
35
and
therefore
meets
the
Criterion.
E
This
is
a
far
more
straightforward
and
it's
we're
evaluating
that
and
and
using
that
Authority
and
I,
think
that
that's
that's
good
and
other
than
that.
I
do
think
it
will
be
a
valuable
addition
to
this
this
park,
obviously
the
other
the
properties
that
you've
had
there's
a
demonstrative
quality
and
and
top
tier
tenants
and
hopefully
it'll-
be
something
that
will
provide
for
greater
use
in
the
Rancho
Canal
area
and-
and
we
wish
you
success.
D
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C
C
C
C
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
C
D
C
You,
let's
see
presenting
on
behalf
of
staff,
is
associate
planner
Justine
Kendall
whenever
you're
ready.
P
P
The
approval
mechanisms
for
these
applications
are
packaged
in
both
resolutions
and
ordinances
based
on
their
type
and
intent.
There
are
two
resolutions
before
you
this
evening:
one
to
recommend
approval
of
the
general
plan.
Amendment
development
permit
protected
tree
permit
and
other
applications
that
would
be
adopted
by
ordinance,
which
I'll
mention
in
a
minute
and
another
to
recommend
approval
of
a
special
use
permit,
which
would
allow
future
tenants
of
the
proposed
commercial
spaces
to
include
on-site
sale
of
alcohol.
P
P
The
residential
capacity
allocation
for
the
project
was
approved
by
the
city
council
on
April
27
2021,
along
with
the
initiation
of
the
general
plan
Amendment,
the
RCA
approved
the
allocation
of
246
measure
e-units
to
the
subject
property.
This
approval
was
extended
on
March
29th
of
last
year,
following
the
submittal
of
the
pre-application.
The
formal
applications
for
this
project
were
submitted
starting
August
9th
of
last
year.
P
The
southern
Building
B
will
actually
again
appear
above
ground
to
be
five
buildings.
Four
apartment
buildings
connected
by
various
walking
paths,
breezeways
and
bridges,
and
one
Standalone
amenity,
building
additional
indoor
and
outdoor
amenities
would
be
provided
to
the
residents
throughout
the
site,
including
a
playground,
swimming
pool,
Courtyards
with
active
play,
spaces,
roof
decks
and
a
dog
park
to
look
in
more
detail
at
building
a
moving
from
the
East
entrance
to
the
West
as
I
go
through
the
sides.
P
The
Project's
architectural
design
is
a
modern
style
building
a
includes
a
variety
of
material
changes
throughout
to
provide
a
visually
diverse
and
appealing
design.
The
exterior
walls
of
the
building
are
Earth
Tone
colors,
primarily
consisting
of
Stucco
finishes,
simulated
wood,
fiber
cement
panels
and
board
form
cement
and
brick
veneer,
which
is
heavily
featured
in
this
rendering,
showing
the
view
from
the
entrance
closest
to
the
existing
multi-family
development.
P
The
architectural
design
incorporates
articulation
and
detailing
throughout
with
massing
and
offset
requirements
incorporated
into
specific
plan
24.
building
a
again
seen
here
from
Hillcrest
Drive
looking
Southwest
is
located
behind
an
existing
landscaped
berm,
with
protected
oak
trees
to
remain
in
place.
Seen
partially
here
is
the
fourth
floor,
step
back,
which
runs
above
the
entire
north
and
west
facades,
with
the
receding
faces
finished
in
Stucco
contrasting
the
foreground
facades
finished
with
brick
veneer
and
wood
fiber
cement
panels.
P
The
two
commercial
units
can
be
seen
here
on
the
ground
floor
of
the
northwest
corner
of
building
a
design
features
pictured
in
this
rendering
also
include
a
first
floor
step
back
a
second
floor.
Roof
deck
a
similar
one,
is
provided
on
the
south
side
of
this
building
as
well
and
a
fourth
floor.
Roof
deck
above
that
trellises
are
included
above
the
commercial
units
to
provide
additional
articulation
in
this
area
closest
to
the
intersection
of
Hillcrest
in
Rancho
Conejo
Boulevard
adjacent
to
the
existing
gas
station.
P
Continuing
to
wrap
around
to
the
West
Building
B,
seen
here
from
inside
the
landscape
buffer
on
the
Rancho
Conejo
Boulevard
side
also
includes
a
fourth
floor
step
back,
which
you
can
see
here.
Architecturally
the
proposed
building
design,
materials
and
Landscaping
complement
existing
uses
as
the
color
palette
of
Browns
and
Grays
mimic,
the
colors
used
in
the
adjacent
commercial
and
residential
developments.
P
The
exposed
elevations
of
the
parking
garage
are
obscured
from
view
by
the
ground
floor,
commercial
and
residential
uses
in
the
case
of
building
a
and
collide
with
board
form
concrete
and
landscaping
to
remain
architecturally
compatible
with
the
rest
of
the
building.
In
the
case
of
Building
B,
which
you
can
see
from
this
rendering
taken
from
inside
the
property,
boundary
and
Landscape
buffer
area
on
the
101
freeway
exit
ramp
side,
additional
decorative
roofline
trim
and
enhanced
facade
materials
are
required
by
conditions
of
approval
in
order
to
further
improve
building
design
and
reduce
building
mass
and
scale.
P
The
one
to
four
story
project
would
be
55
feet
tall
at
its
highest
point,
although
much
of
the
buildings
are
below
that
height
developments
surrounding
the
site
includes
a
one-story
gas
station,
a
two-story
commercial
and
residential
buildings,
and
a
three-story
office
structure
directly
across
from
the
project
site
to
the
north
as
ground
elevations
increase
from
south
to
North
that
three-story
office
building
and
the
subject
building
before
you
would
be
approximately
the
same
height
when
viewed
from
the
street.
P
The
landscape,
buffers
and
surface
Lots
provide
extended
setback
area
between
the
proposed
development
and
the
existing
adjacent
properties.
In
addition,
fourth
floor
step,
backs
shown
again
here
in
pink,
are
provided
on
the
external
facades
to
further
reduce
the
appearance
of
height
from
neighboring
properties,
both
both
the
setbacks
between
the
property
lines
and
the
ground
floor
facades,
as
well
as
the
step
backs
between
the
property
lines
and
the
fourth
floors
are
required
by
the
proposed
specific
plan
24..
P
The
existing
building
is
again
two
stories
and
the
rooftop
is
occasionally
visible
from
the
highway.
Now,
as
such,
the
city's
101
freeway
design
guidelines
apply,
although
there
are
no
public
view
sheds
or
corridors
to
be
protected,
the
project
has
been
designed
to
be
sensitive
to
the
existing
topography
and
proximity
to
the
highway.
These
design
considerations
include
extensive
Landscaping
proposed
along
the
project,
perimeter
and
protective
screening
of
roof
mounted
mechanical
equipment.
P
P
In
addition,
the
applicant
has
agreed
to
provide
two
additional,
very
low
income
units
and
three
moderate
income
restricted
units
for
an
overall
total
of
three
of
33,
affordable
units.
That's
five
above
the
minimum
amount
to
qualify
for
the
87
density
bonus
units
per
state
law.
The
applicant
is
also
eligible
to
request
the
reduced
parking
rate
Allowed
by
the
law,
which
is
which
they
have
done
in
part.
Something
I'll
get
into
more
detail
into
more
detail
later.
P
P
P
Primary
Ingress
and
egress
to
the
site
is
provided
from
two
bi-directional
driveways,
both
accessed
from
Hillcrest
Drive
within
the
site.
Two
roadways
leading
to
the
parking
garage
entrances
are
aligned
with
sidewalks
and
surface
parking
spaces.
In
addition,
a
pedestrian-oriented
street
bisects
the
property
between
the
mixed-use
building
again
building
a
and
the
residential
only
building,
building
B.
This
street
provides
access
to
Temporary
parking
and
loading
areas,
as
well
as
parallel
parking
spaces
to
serve
the
commercial
uses.
P
The
site
provides
on-site
parking
for
vehicles
while
accommodating
and
encouraging
other
multimodal
Transportation
methods
as
well.
The
project
proposes
to
exceed
both
state
and
specific
plan
requirements
as
100
bike
and
scooter
spaces
are
being
provided,
including
16,
electrical,
electric
bicycle
charging
stations
and
20
electric
scooter
charging
stations.
P
A
total
of
581
parking
spaces
are
proposed
for
the
development
through
a
mix
of
both
Subterranean
garage
and
surface
parking.
The
proposed
specific
plan,
24
mimics,
the
Thousand
Oaks
Boulevard
specific
plan
and
other
recently
adopted
specific
plans
and
that
their
requirement
for
restaurant
and
Commercial
off
street
parking
is
the
same.
P
In
addition
to
loading,
spaces
are
required
to
be
provided
pursuant
to
the
state
density
bonus
law,
as
I
mentioned
previously,
the
parking
ratio
is
required
for
multi-family
apartment
buildings
are
one
parking
space
per
one
bedroom
unit
and
one
and
a
half
parking
spaces
for
a
two-bedroom
unit
with
no
guest
parking
required.
The
applicant,
however,
is
proposing
two
spaces
per
two
and
three
bedroom
unit.
P
Parking
structure
a
serving
the
mixed-use
building
is
a
two
level
structure,
including
100
and
111
spaces,
with
the
second
level
above
ground,
but
completely
encapsulated
by
the
proposed
commercial
and
residential
uses.
The
entrances
are
located
on
the
south
side
of
the
building
and
are
not
visible
from
any
public
Road
parking
structure.
B
serving
the
residential
use
only
building
and
providing
351
spaces
is
a
basement
parking
structure,
Ingress
and
egress
to
the
below
grade
parking
structure
are
provided
on.
P
The
east
and
west
sides
shown
here
which
minimizes
public
view
of
the
entry
areas
Landscaping
is
provided
throughout
the
Open
Spaces
landscape
buffers
and
along
the
walkways
within
the
site.
If
the
project
is
approved,
a
formal
landscape
plan
will
be
required
and
Technical
evaluation
of
that
plan
will
be
provided
through
a
landscape
plan
check
process
to
ensure
compliance
with
the
city's
landscape
and
irrigation
standards.
P
P
Private
common
amenities
include
approximately
fifty
thousand
square
feet
of
indoor
and
outdoor
space.
These
amenities
for
the
resident's
use
only
and
their
guests
would
include
outdoor
landscape,
open
space
areas,
a
swimming
pool,
a
playground,
barbecue
areas
and
a
dog
park.
Three
roof
decks
are
also
provided
in
building
a
and
one
on
Building
B,
each
including
seating
areas
and
planting
spaces.
P
Indoor
common
amenities
include
a
standalone
leasing
office
with
concierge
services,
bike
storage,
supplemental
resident
storage,
co-working
area,
Fitness,
room
game,
room
and
Lounge.
Private
amenities
are
provided
for
each
individual
unit,
as
well
as
the
public
and
common
facilities
mentioned.
All
units
include
private,
open
space,
private
open
space,
either
in
the
form
of
a
balcony
or
a
private
stoop
that
range
between
50
to
480
square
feet
with
an
average
size
of
88
square
feet.
P
The
site
contains
28
protected
Coast
live
oak
trees.
The
project
design
requires
removal
of
17
protected
Coast
live
oak
trees
and
encroachment
into
the
protected
zone
of
eight
oak
trees,
which
were
all
planted
as
part
of
a
previously
required
landscape
plan.
The
Three
Trees,
which
Grew
From
acorns,
will
be
saved
and
not
encroached
upon
encroachment
within
the
protected
zone
of
the
eight
protected
trees,
including
the
pruning
of
four
trees,
is
necessary
to
accommodate,
proposed
improvements
and
Grading
activities
associated
with
the
construction
of
the
new
development.
P
The
removal
of
the
17
protected
oak
trees
is
necessary
to
allow
adequate
vehicular
and
pedestrian
circulation
and
parking
facilities.
The
latter
being
stated
as
a
city
council
priority
during
the
public
hearing
initiating
the
general
plan
Amendment
and
allocating
the
residential
capacity
existing
protected
trees
located
along
the
public
way.
Public
right
away
were
prioritized
for
preservation,
both
with
and
without
conditional
encroachments.
P
The
oak
tree
preservation
and
protection
ordinance
allows
for
oak
tree
encroachments
and
removals
if
the
request
is
not
contrary
to
the
purpose
and
intent
of
the
ordinance
20
Coast
Live
Oak
20,
Valley
Oak
and
11
Western
sycamore
trees.
All
36
inch
inch
box
specimens
are
to
be
provided
on
site
per
the
replacement
tree
plan
seen
here
per
the
oak
tree
preservation
ordinance.
However,
only
the
oak
tree
species
count
towards
the
number
of
replacement
trees
required.
P
In
addition,
if
any
of
the
eight
trees,
which
are
to
be
encroached
upon
die
within
five
years
of
the
encroachment,
they
too
shall
be
replaced
at
the
three
to
one
ratio
required
for
the
removal
of
live
trees
required
by
the
oak
tree
preservation
and
protection
ordinance.
P
The
replacement
trees
have
been
strategically
located
around
the
perimeter
of
the
subject
property
in
order
to
provide
a
physical
barrier
between
the
residential
structures
and
surrounding
roadways.
Such
placement
would
provide
visual
screening
to
and
from
the
roadways
and
reduce
noise
from
entering
the
site.
P
In
order
to
provide
the
applicant
the
greatest
future
flexibility,
a
special
use
permit
for
the
on-site,
sale
and
consumption
of
alcohol
has
been
requested
as
part
of
this
project.
The
specific
specifics
of
future
tenants,
including
exact
business
type
and
hours
of
operation,
are
not
currently
known.
However,
future
businesses
that
intend
to
utilize
the
liquor
license
within
the
property's
commercial
area
would
be
allowed
the
option
to
transfer
the
special
use
permit
to
their
name
and
assume
the
responsibilities
of
the
permit
through
review
and
approval
of
a
minor
modification
application
prior
to
occupancy.
P
A
specific
plan
is
proposed
as
the
Thousand
Oaks
Municipal
Code
does
not
currently
include
a
zoning
designation
which
allows
a
mix
of
commercial
and
residential
uses
on
the
same
site.
The
specific
plan
includes
custom
development
and
design
standards,
permitted
land
uses,
infrastructure
requirements,
implementation
measures
and
other
criteria.
P
P
A
development
agreement
is
required
for
approval
of
projects
that
receive
allocation
of
measure
e
units.
This
agreement
is
a
contract
between
the
property
owner
and
the
city
to
ensure
specific
deliverables
and
the
site
expectations
are
in
place
to
ensure
public
benefit,
such
as
the
inclusion
of
affordable
units
and
site
improvements.
P
In
addition,
the
city
would
receive
the
demolition
of
an
aging
commercial
site,
inclusion
of
amenities
and
electric
charging
stations
and
the
replacement
of
the
existing
City
Gateway
sign.
In
return
for
these
public
benefits,
the
applicant's
application
will
be
considered
for
approval
and
the
requisite
measure
e
units
would
be
permanently
allocated.
Additional
points
of
this
development
agreement
include
timelines
for
the
construction
descriptions
of
major
and
minor
Amendment
criteria
and
a
few
other
items
in
accordance
with
sqa
the
California
Environmental
Quality
act.
A
comprehensive
evaluation
of
the
potential
environmental
impacts
for
this
project
was
performed.
P
This
evaluation
determined
that
the
project
could
have
a
significant
effect
on
the
environment
without
appropriate
mitigation
measures
in
place.
Therefore,
an
eir
was
prepared
for
the
project.
Appropriate
measures
listed
here
are
detailed
in
the
report
and
mitigation
monitoring
and
Reporting
program
attached
to
the
larger
resolution
before
you.
This
evening,
to
ensure
mitigation
is
in
place,
so
no
significant
adverse
environmental
impacts
result
from
the
project.
P
These
are
included
in
the
response
to
comments
within
the
final
eir,
which
was
provided
in
the
supplemental
packet,
the
first
supplemental.
None
of
the
comments
received
on
the
draft
dir
for
this
project,
Merit
any
substantive
change
to
this
environmental
analysis
or
conclusions
contained
in
the
draft
eir.
P
No
other
public
comments
other
than
those
made
on
the
eir
were
received,
except
for
one
letter
received
today
in
support
of
their
project.
The
proposed
project
has
been
designed
to
meet
the
intent
of
the
city
standards,
codes
and
policies.
The
proposed
building,
design
and
site
layout,
integrate
well
with
surrounding
development
and
has
a
cohesive,
architectural
design.
Meeting
the
city's
architectural
design
guidelines
staff
recommends
approval
of
this
project
subject
to
the
conditions
of
approval
in
the
ordinances
and
resolutions.
P
Staff
recommends
that
the
Planning
Commission
adopt
a
resolution,
thereby
forwarding
the
following
recommendations
to
city
council
and
I'm,
realizing
that
everything
I'm
saying
is
not
matching.
What's
on
your
screen,
so
I
will
Circle
back
to
this
slide
in
just
a
moment.
P
As
I
was
saying,
staff
recommends
that
the
Planning
Commission
adopt
a
resolution,
thereby
forwarding
the
recommendations
that
you
see
on
this
side
to
city
council,
namely
to
adopt
a
resolution
to
certify
the
final
environmental
impact
report
associated
with
the
air
in
accordance
with
sequa
approve
the
general
plan.
Amendment,
the
development
permit
and
the
protected
tree
permit
adopt
a
resolution
to
approve
the
special
use,
permit,
adopt
a
resolution
approving
the
zone,
change
and
the
specific
plan
and
adopt
an
ordinance
approving
the
development
agreement.
P
There
are
two
Corrections
to
the
resolution
before
you
this
evening.
On
page
seven,
there,
the
finding
included
in
Section
3
item
four,
should
read
that
the
site
has
a
current
General
plan.
Land
use
designation
of
commercial.
The
proposed
amendment
would
change
the
land
use
designation
for
the
entire
property
to
commercial
residential,
thereby
neither
increasing
nor
decreasing
the
acreage
designated
as
commercial
and
on
page
54
of
that
resolution
condition.
P
130
item
G,
the
language
should
read.
Affordable
units
must
be
dispersed
throughout
the
mixed
use
and
residential
use
buildings
of
the
development
in
a
manner
acceptable
to
the
city,
and
with
that
I
conclude,
my
presentation
I
am
available
for
questions
as
well
as
other
members
of
City
staff
and
the
applicant
team.
Thank.
C
E
Awesome.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
for
the
presentation.
I
just
have
you
and
your
staff
report
addressed
some
of
the
questions
that
I
forwarded
to
staff,
so
thank
you
very
much.
I
do
want
to
have
just
some
of
the
things
for
clarification
so
because
this
has
a
general
plan.
E
Amendment
I
asked
my
standard
four
questions
about
whether
it
requires
voter
approval
do
any
of
the
lands
affected
by
the
amendment
currently
have
a
land
use,
designation
of
existing
parks,
golf
course
or
open
space
I
believe
the
answer
is
no.
P
E
Not
would
the
amendment
expand
the
curb
line
outside
of
its
current
boundaries?
I'm,
assuming
the
answer
is
no.
No,
your
description
of
the
change
with
respect
to
the
commercial
and
to
commercial
residential
addresses.
My
question
about
measure
e
in
the
commercial
acreage
increase.
It
neither
increases
nor
decreases.
The
last
one
was
on
the
residential
just
to
make
sure
that
I
understand
where
the
units
are
coming
from.
E
Does
it
when
considered
cumulatively
resulted
in
net
increase
in
the
maximum
number
of
residential
dueling
units
which
are
permitted
under
the
proposed
land
use
designation?
My
understanding
is
is
that
the
city
council
preliminarily
allocated
246
units
the
and
we
are
asking
for
it
to
be
finally
allocated
for
246
units,
so
that
has
been
set
aside.
There
have
been
no
projects
that
have
taken
away
from
those
246.,
since
the
time
it
was
previously
approved
to
now
is.
Is
that
a
fair
understanding.
I
E
So,
therefore,
it
would
not
exceed
the
Baseline
based
upon
the
current
accounting,
correct.
Okay,
thank
you
with
respect
to
sqa
I
just
want
to
gain
an
understanding
of
it.
We
did
an
initial
evaluation.
We
thought
there
might
be
a
significant
environmental
impact,
so
there
was
an
assessment,
for
that
is
a
SAS
belief,
then,
that
through
that
and
the
mitigation
monitoring
and
Reporting
program
that
these
can
be
reduced
to
less
than
the
significant
impact
on
the
environment
with
its
proper
implementation.
That's.
P
E
Okay,
thank
you.
Let
me
see.
E
For
this
I
think
you
you,
we
kind
of
mentioned
it
before,
and
I
I
I'll
just
ask
her
for
the
record
on
on
some
of
these
things.
Previous
projects
that
we've
had
the
the
applicant
has
asked
for
density
bonuses
because
of
the
providing
of
affordable
units,
and
for
that
reason,
they're
kind
of
able
to
look
for
a
few
I
I,
don't
know
if
the
right
returns
concessions
for
certain
standards
and
because
we
have
a
specific
plan.
That's
going
to
be
allocated
for
this
project.
E
E
That's
that's
effectively
what
I'm
trying
to
get
to
they're
not
going
to
ask
for
more,
if
it's
incorporated
into
that,
we
could
probably
ask
the
applicant
if
they're,
going
to
be
happy
with
those
one.
One
question-
and
this
gets
to
I
had
asked
this
before
and
I
just
wanted
to
to.
You
had
been
kind
enough
to
confirm
it.
E
The
number
of
units
on
the
project
is
333.
It
appears
from
the
project
data
that
60
of
those
units
would
be
on
the
fourth
floor
and
there
there's
a
request
due
to
the
providing
of
affordable
units
they
qualify
for
density
bonus,
which
is
87
units,
so
the
additional
height
is
kind
of
needed
for
the
particular
project
in
order
to
accommodate
the
additional
density.
Is
that
a
fair
way
of
reading
it
based
on
the
plans
and,
what's
what's
being
asked
for?
Maybe
that's
for
the
the
project,
but.
P
P
Sorry
to
enter
interrupting
you,
yes,
I
I
would
direct
that
question
to
the
applicant.
That's
one
factor,
but
they
can
speak
more
to
why
the
height
is
the
way
that
it
is
okay,.
E
Thank
you
and
then
on
the
changes
regarding
the
placement
of
the
affordable
unit.
So
I
noted
that
there's
a
correction
in
the
findings,
which
was
section
190g
of
the
conditions
for
approval,
would
there
also
be
a
prospective
change
to
section
19.7
of
the
development
agreement
which
which
actually
implements
that
that
part.
E
That's
great
I
think
that's
all
the
questions
I
had
for.
We
think
thank
you
for
your
Indulgence.
G
Yes,
thank
you,
chair
I,
apologize,
I've,
asked
this
question
again
and
I
promise
from
here
on
out
that
I
will
commit
this
answer
to
memory.
Does
the
city
have
within
its
code
a
requirement
of
the
ratio
of
mixed
use
of
commercial
to
residential
square
footage.
G
And
then
I
think
the
for
lack
of
a
better
term
concession
or
waiver
that
commissioner,
or
one
of
them
at
least
the
commissioner
Ferris,
had
alluded
to,
and
that
has
come
up
in
discussion
before
this
body
several
times
is
the
private
open
space
component?
So
it
appears
within
the
specific
plan
that
the
minimum,
so
to
speak,
for
private
open
space
has
been
reduced
to
50
square
feet.
Is
that
correct.
P
C
P
The
objective
standards
did
not
apply
to
the
previous
project,
the
what
came
before
you
so
that
new
reduced
standard
didn't
apply
to
that
project.
The
objective
standards
were
adopted
by
city
council,
late
2021.
C
Okay,
commissioner
Lansing.
P
Well,
the
the
project
with
the
tree
was
not
a
residential
project
that
was
a
protected
tree.
Permit
I
think
the
project
being
referred
to
was
88
long,
in
which
the
there
was
a
concession
requested
for
the
reduction
of
private
open
space
to
reduce
from
the
hundred
square
feet.
The
objective
standards
did
not
apply
to
that
project.
The
objective
standards
apply
to
any
residential
project
with
two
units
or
more
that
were
deemed
complete
after
the
effective
date
of
that
ordinance.
Okay,.
J
That
there
you
go,
that
was
the
that
was
the
part.
I
was
missing
so
again,
that's
basically
for
newer
type
projects.
So
again,
we'll
probably
revisit
that
at
some
point,
I'm
assuming
once
we
have
gotten
all
of
the
other
things
that
I
know
we
have
to
get
to
I
only
had
one
other
thing
was
normally
with
regard
to
the
alcohol
license,
the
applicant
has
to
apply
to
ABC
themselves.
Why
are
we
doing
that
as
part
of
a
sup
as
part
of
the
project?
Now
the.
P
Individual
tenants
will
still
need
to
do
that
and
they
will
need
to
apply
to
the
city
again
in
that
minor
modification
application
process,
so
the
hours
of
operation,
the
specific
use
you
know
any
other
circumstances
like
if
they
were
to
propose
live
music,
for
example.
That
would
be
addressed
in
the
minor
modification
application,
but
they
wouldn't
need
to
go
back
to
Planning
Commission
to
get
the
just
the
alcohol
use
part.
Thank.
C
Any
other
questions
I
had
one
about
the
affordable
housing
units
that
are
scattered
throughout
the
project.
Will
they
be
designated
with
you
and
with
the
city
and
the
developer
coming
together
and
saying?
Okay,
it'll,
be
this
one,
and
this
one
and
this
one
and
they'll
be
written
into
the
permit
or
you
know
very
specific,
which
ones
are
the
affordable?
Yes,.
P
The
affordable
units,
the
the
units
which
are
to
be
affordable,
are
marked
on
the
plans
now
I
think
there
was
a
drafting
error
with
one,
with
the
exhibit
that
you
got
as
part
of
your
packet,
but
moving
forward
as
part
of
the
building
plan
check,
process
and
the
affordable
housing
agreement
process.
That
would
be
something
that
we
check
both
for
the
equitable
distribution
of
those
units
and
to
make
sure
that
the
units
are
of
the
same
quality
contain
the
same
features
or
Equitable.
P
K
C
Right
one
last
question:
when
you
go
to
the
property
on
Hillcrest,
there
is
that
berm,
where
it's
coming
down,
that
berm
will
remain
and
the
property
zero
where
it
starts.
It
will
so
it's
beginning
event
essentially
lower.
K
K
I
K
P
Yes,
that
will
also
be
updated
when
provided
to
the
city
council,
I.
Think
some
of
the
exhibits
in
the
specific
plan
are
showing.
E
C
Do
we
have
any
other
questions?
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
at
this
point.
The
applicant
can
come
up
and
talk
to
us.
Tom
Cohen,
please
state
your
name
in
city
of
residence.
Q
And
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Tom
Cohen
resident
here
of
Thousand,
Oaks
and
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant,
the
Latigo
Hillcrest
LLC.
We
have
a
big
crowd
behind
me
with
me.
Tonight
is
Mark
Maron,
co-founder
of
the
Latigo
group
representing
his
partner,
Scott
Nick,
and
the
dedicated
Latigo
team,
because
I'm
sure
you
know
Mark
and
his
team
delivered
big
time
with
the
santol
Thousand
Oaks
mixed-use
Department
project
at
299,
Thousand
Oaks
Boulevard,
which
opened
at
the
beginning
of
the
year.
Q
You
can
rest
assured
that
lanigo
will
match
299's
Excellence
here
at
the
2150
Hillcrest
Drive
project.
Also
in
attendance
is
Keith
McCloskey
with
ktgy
Architects
Scott
Baker,
our
project
landscape,
architect
with
realm
front
Cunningham
civil
engineer
with
stantec
Richard
Ibarra,
the
project
arborist
with
trees,
Etc
John
Moreland
with
Rincon
Consultants,
can
talk
to
you
all
day
about
specific
plans:
Diane
McKay
CEO
of
Mustang
marketing.
We
handled
community
outreach
and
Dave
Rand
with
Rand
Pastor
Nelson.
Q
First,
as
as
my
custom
is,
is
to
thank
the
terrific
work
of
Staff
in
particular
Justine
for
expertly
guiding
our
team
through
this
planning
process.
The
enormity
of
this
project
required
your
Keen
insight
and
management
and
tireless
effort,
and
we
sincerely
appreciate
that-
and
we
also
want
to
acknowledge
and
appreciate
staff's
recommendation
that
this
project
be
approved
or
recommended
for
approval
and
brought
to
the
council.
Q
Justine
delivered
a
very
thorough
report
and
I'll
do
my
best
to
do
avoid
duplicating
it.
I
do
need
to
go
on
record
to
state
that
we
are
requesting
your
approval
to
allocate
246
units
of
measury
residential
capacity
through
the
general
plan
Amendment
and
then
approve
this
well-conceived
mixed
use,
project
of
333
units.
Q
R
Q
The
industrial
park
in
Amgen
the
services
that
are
in
the
area
and
and
the
commercial
retail
opportunities
as
well
in
the
Newbury
Park
area.
Also
it's
important
to
note
that
the
city
council
identified
this
site
as
a
key
location
for
housing
when
it
adopted
the
preferred
land
use
map
in
May
of
2021
I
just
want
to
hit
real
quickly
on
the
Project's
public
benefits,
as
you've
heard,
30
very
low
and
three
moderate
income
apartments.
Q
Q
This
project
is
incorporating
sustainability
measures,
including
all
electric
units,
more
EV
charging
systems
and
EV
radio
infrastructure
provided
than
required
by
Cal
green,
also
they're,
providing
electrical
electric
bicycle
and
scooter
charging
stations.
The
building.
That's
there
today
is
is
old.
It's
vacant.
There
are
transients
that
have
traversed
that
property
and
and
caused
a
lot
of
damage.
We're
going
to
change
that
we're
going
to
build
a
beautiful
community
and
eyes
will
be
on
those
on
the
area
at
all
times.
Q
The
other
thing
that's
important
to
note
is
because
of
the
proximity
to
jobs
and
Amgen.
The
future
residents
will
have
the
ability
to
bike
or
walk
to
work.
Therefore,
reducing
impacts
on
the
environment,
reducing
vehicle
miles,
traveled,
we're,
anticipating,
high
quality
restaurants,
latigos
incredible
success
at
299
with
that
regard
bodes
well
here.
At
21.50,
we've
talked
about
two
live
work
units
which
are
also
evidence
of
providing
vehicular
trip
reduction
benefits,
and
then
also
you
heard
we.
Q
We
intend
to
replace
the
Gateway
sign
with
something
much
nicer
and
improving
the
landscape
there
and
access
to
the
general
public
to
utilize
it.
This
project
checks
all
the
boxes.
It
provides
housing
in
close
proximity
to
jobs.
In
addition,
the
project
incorporates
sustainability
measures
that
I
talked
about.
Q
It's
going
to
the
project
will
encourage
the
community
to
support
local
businesses
and
provides
our
local
businesses
a
place
for
their
employees
to
live,
and,
as
we've
mentioned
before,
we
continue
to
hear
from
the
life
sciences
and
biotech
Community
expressing
a
desire
for
contemporary
housing
options
for
the
next
Generations
of
workers.
The
prior
hearing
before
us
tonight
that
bringing
on
a
bunch
of
jobs.
Here's
a
perfect
place
to
house
those
workers.
Q
Please
know
that
Outreach
was
conducted
by
Mustang
marketing's
team
led
by
Diane
McKay.
While
there
has
been
some
of
the
typical
chatter
on
social
media,
we
have
not
received
any
direct
communication
from
those
opposing
this
project.
Lastly,
we've
reviewed
all
279
project
conditions
and
find
them
to
be
acceptable
in
closing.
Latigo
has
a
proven
track
record
right
here
in
Thousand,
Oaks
of
building
impressive
and
much
needed
housing
with
great
amenities
for
both
its
future
future
residents
and
the
community
at
large.
As
with
299,
which
magnificently
transformed
an
absolutely
obsolete
property.
Q
S
Hi,
my
name
is
Keith
McCloskey
of
ktgy
Thousand
Oaks
California.
If
Justine
can
share
the
applicant
presentation,
what
I'd
like
to
do
this
evening
is
to
focus
on
just
kind
of
the
design
vision
for
the
project.
We
talked
a
lot
about
the
technical
specifics
and
unit
counts
sizes
Etc,
but
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
just
kind
of
Advance
through
the
project
site
and
kind
of
Orient
everybody
to
the
proposed
design.
S
So
if
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
the
site
plan
that
was
presented
earlier
consists
of
really
two
structures:
a
smaller
building
that
fronts
onto
Hillcrest
behind
the
existing
berm.
That
we've
discussed
the
idea
being
to
preserve
that
berm
one
because
of
the
nature
of
the
protected
trees
on
it.
S
At
the
back
side
of
that
easement
and
the
berm
there
really
creating
kind
of
a
series
of
privacy
buffers
with
the
planting
and
existing
trees.
And
then
the
residential
entry
into
the
building
happens
on
the
Eastern
Edge
kind
of
opposite
corner
of
the
commercial,
where
that's
really
a
residential
focused
area.
That's
going
to
have
the
co-working
down
on
the
ground
floor
and
then
three
levels
of
residential
above,
and
we
can
continue
to
talk
about
the
the
massing
goals
that
were
achieved,
some
of
them
at
the
pre-screen
hearing
with
city
council
and
some
based
on
feedback.
S
S
This
is
a
view
looking
at
the
western
edge
of
the
project
as
you
come
into
the
retail,
that's
the
plaza
off
on
the
left
hand,
side
of
the
image
and
then
two
levels
of
residential
above
at
that
corner,
and
then
the
heart
of
the
residential
entry
into
Building
B
really
exists
with
a
1800
square
foot
leasing
office,
which
is
a
standalone
footprint.
That's
going
to
house
all
of
the
main
leasing
activities
for
the
entire
project.
S
Here
at
that
location,
that's
kind
of
really
like
an
arrival
sequence
like
you'd,
see
a
lot
of
times
in
Hospitality,
where
there's
a
smaller
detached
structure.
That's
really
easy
to
get
to
easy
to
get
in
and
out
of,
and
is
where
the
management
of
the
property
would
happen
and
where
visitors
would
first
go
to
tour
the
property
and
then
flanking
around
that
are
multiple
courtyards.
S
That
residents
would
have
private
access
to
next
slide,
please
and
then
at
the
back
of
the
property,
due
to
the
way
that
the
grades
moving.
The
four
stories
of
residential
sits
above
the
garage,
the
garage
partially
Daylights
at
the
back
side
of
the
project
by
the
freeway,
and
then
we
have
an
existing
kind
of
low
spot
in
the
grading
and
that
area
is
really
being
used
currently
for
the
storm
water
basin,
but
also
for
areas
to
have
residents
get
out
and
kind
of
basically
have
a
walk
path
around
the
perimeter
of
the
site.
S
And
then
this
is
a
view
looking
into
the
residential
Campus
of
Building
B,
with
the
leasing
building
on
the
left
and
the
fitness
and
some
of
the
other
amenities.
On
the
right
hand,
side
there
will
be
a
privacy
gate
for
security
for
residents
there
at
that
location.
But
everything
forward
of
that
gate
is
all
open
to
the
public
and
the
mixed-use
building
is
accessible
to
anybody
off-site
as
well,
and
some
of
the
same
architectural
languages
exist
throughout
the
building.
S
We've
got
a
series
of
Stucco
masses:
we've
got
a
base
of
wood,
fiber,
cement,
cladding
and
then
various
accent
materials
throughout
the
project.
So
every
material,
that's
here
in
the
project,
is
introduced
in
a
variety
of
locations
throughout
each
building
and
then
on
different
stories
next
slide
and
that's
the
leasing
building
again
we
can
skip
to
the
next
one.
This
basically
gives
you
a
feel
of
the
plaza
that's
going
to
sit
out
in
front
of
that.
S
And
then
we've
got
a
couple
minutes
left
to
talk
briefly
about
some
of
the
outdoor
amenities,
Scott
Bakers
here
from
realm,
and
can
talk
specifically
to
some
of
the
programming
for
some
of
these
Open
Spaces
throughout
the
project.
I
will
touch
briefly
on
a
couple
of
the
program
areas
that
you
see
on
the
site
plan.
Basically,
we've
got
kind
of
a
green
wrapper
around
the
entire
project.
Here
that
creates
a
buffer
between
the
adjacent
properties.
S
It
creates
some
privacy
for
residents,
as
well
as
buffering
the
neighboring
land
uses
and
around
those
exterior
components
of
the
project.
We've
got
amenities
for
residents
that
are
sprinkled
around
the
exterior
of
the
project,
like
a
kids
play
area,
a
dog
park
Etc
the
Basin
that
we
mentioned
and
then
internally
the
Project's
very
amenity
heavy
with
over
10
000
feet
of
indoor
amenities
and
then
probably
close
to
an
acre
of
outdoor
podium,
Courtyards
pool
deck
outdoor
grilling
areas,
and
things
like
that
which
we
can
briefly
touch
on
in
some
of
these
slides
here.
S
S
This
is
the
internal
amenities
of
the
project,
once
you're
inside
the
private
gated
area
really
trying
to
create
a
lush
kind
of
verdant
space
on
top
of
this
Podium
deck,
as
well
as
provide
plenty
of
amenities
for
residents
and
then
the
pool
deck
here
really
going
to
be
the
heart
of
the
campus
here
with
a
3
000
square
foot,
fitness
center,
just
north
of
the
pool,
and
then
plenty
of
room
for
lounging
Etc.
So
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
Scott's
here
as
well
for
landscaping
and
Fred
for
civil.
Thank
you.
E
I
did
have
one
I
didn't
know
if
it
was
most
appropriate
for
you
or
or
Mr
Cohen,
but
this
kind
of
talked
about
the
the
conditions
about
the
placement
and
the
quality
construction
for
the
affordable
units.
So
one
of
the
conditions
which
we
had
talked
about
that
there
was
some
language
about
that.
They
should
be
placed
in
the
mixed
use
in
building
and
they're
going
to
be
updated
to
where
they
must
be
dispersed
within
the
mixed
use
and
residential
buildings.
S
Yeah
as
we
go
through
the
plan
check,
process
and
work
with
City
staff
in
the
Community
Development
Department,
as
well
as
with
that
housing
department,
we'll
be
working
with
both
the
city
and
the
county
on
kind
of
the
quality
of
those
affordable
units,
as
well
as
ensuring
the
covenants
that
were
spoken
about
for
the
durations,
but
in
terms
of
locations
and
quality.
You
know
we've
identified
or
proposed
locations
we're
open
to
work
with
Community
Development
staff
on
the
exact
locations.
If
there's
you
know
some
goals
in
terms
of
reward,
reorienting
some
of.
B
S
Locations
or
unit
types,
but
what
we're
typically
trying
to
do
is
to
create
a
blend
of
affordable
units
that
really
mirror
the
broader
projects.
So
in
terms
of
the
mix
of
ones,
twos
and
threes,
you
can't
quite
hit
the
percentages
exactly,
but
generally
they
Trend
to
follow
those
and
locations
as
well.
You
get
lower
levels,
upper
floors,
and
so
we
would
work
to
continue
to
provide
the
diversity
of
locations
throughout.
E
Also,
concur
that
the
that
the
I'm
reading,
through
one
of
the
conditions
on
the
quality
of
construction,
it
states
that
affordable
units
should
be
comparable
in
exterior
appearance
and
overall
Quality
Construction
to
market
rate
dwelling
units
in
the
same
residential
development.
Is
it
the
intent
that
they
should
should
be
or
that
they
they
can
be
like
we
we
can
require
that
they
are?
Would
you
be?
Would
you
be
okay
if
that
should
be
changed,
to
must.
S
S
It
may
be
Mr
comparable,
is
certainly
reasonable
or
of
equal
quality.
E
J
G
S
Oh
there's
actually
an
existing
oak
tree
that
we're
preserving
that
that
in
reality
it
will
block
some
of
the
view
of
the
building,
but
in
order
to
exhibit
to
staff
and
to
the
Planning
Commission
the
actual
Building
architecture,
we
removed
it
and
put
an
outline
there.
So
that's
the
drip
line.
C
That
was
actually
a
good
question,
because
I
thought
of
that
too
and
I
didn't
bring
it
up.
Question
I!
Guess
that's
it!
We
do
have
six
other
speakers,
let's
see
so
the
first
public
speaker
is
Alex
Perez
and
all
these
speakers
that
are
coming
up
now
have
four
minutes.
O
Hello,
my
name
is
Alex
Perez
and
I
reside
in
Newbury,
Park
I
won't
take
all
the
four
minutes.
I'll
be
I'll,
be
brief,
but
my
name
is
Alex
Perez
I'm,
a
member
of
the
Southwest
Mountain
States
Regional
Council
of
Carpenters
I,
live
in
the
local
area
and
live
work
and
recreate
in
the
vicinity
of
the
project.
The
city
should
require
the
project
to
be
built
with
contractors
that
hire
locally
pay
prevailing
wage
and
utilize
apprentices
from
the
State
Certified
Apprenticeship
Training
Program.
O
As
a
20-year
member
of
the
Union
I
came
through
the
apprenticeship
started
in
2000
and
it's
it's
afforded
me
the
the
luxury
to
live
in
this
area.
It's
a
beautiful
area,
I
love
the
area,
I'm
a
born
and
raised
Santa
Paula,
but
I
decided
to
move
here
so
being
Community
leaders
yourselves-
and
you
know,
everybody
else
here-
I
think
that
these
giant
developments
should
require,
in
some
part,
to
use
the
apprentices
from
the
certified
programs
in
order
to
create
career
paths.
O
To
get
these,
you
know
cons
or
the
get
these
upcoming
people
or
kids
coming
out
of
high
school,
and
not
only
that
you
know
residents
of
our
area
to
be
able
to
afford
to
live
in
these
units.
That
may
not
be
low
income.
It's
you
know.
We
all
know
how
inflation
is
and
the
prices
of
you
know
real
estate
now.
So
that's
pretty
much
all
I
wanted
to
say
is
you
know
if
they
can
require
utilizing
the
apprentices
from
the
state
certified
programs?
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
C
T
Hello,
Commissioners
staff.
My
name
is
Jonathan
Duran
I'm,
a
representative
with
the
Southwest
Regional
Council
of
Carpenters
Local
805.
I'm,
a
resident
of
Newbury
Park
I've
lived
here
now,
12
years,
so
beautiful
beautiful
city,
the
one
thing
I
want
to
Echo
what
my
partner
said
as
well
is
just
the
opportunity
for
the
Youth
coming
into
the
program.
It's
the
hardest
part.
T
Most
of
the
time
with
apprentices
coming
into
the
program
is
the
travel
and
opportunities
for
us
to
partner
with
the
city
and
also
with
the
developers,
is
to
be
able
to
put
people
to
work
right
in
their
own
backyard,
and
it
just
has
a
compound
and
effect
to
it
to
be
able
to
have
the
money
being
spent
right
back
here.
A
lot
of
the
developers
that
we're
seeing
throughout
Ventura,
County
and
Southern
California
is
they're
starting
to
bring
people
in
from
outside
the
area.
T
T
So
the
and
the
increase
of
traffic,
the
increase
of
pollution
from
the
Cars,
so
those
are
things
that
we're
looking
at
as
maybe
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
have
an
ordinance
to
be
able
to
have
local
hire
I
heard
of
it
from
the
team
from
Latigo
saying
the
travel
time.
Hey.
It's
great,
hey
those
people
that,
once
the
project
is
done,
yeah
most
of
the
people
probably
going
to
be
living.
T
There
are
going
to
be
working
at
Amgen
Alexandria,
the
other
tilt-ups
that
are
going
to
be
built
up
in
that
Corridor
that
we
know
that
are
coming
down
the
pipe
right
now
and
I'm
all
for
the
for
having
those
opportunities,
but
also
think
about
the
working
class
that
are
going
to
be
building
that
as
well
a
livable
wage
jobs,
wages
benefits!
That's
why
we
come
and
speak
at
these
events
at
these
City
Council
on
planning
commissions
is
having
an
opportunity
to
pay
somebody
a
livable
wage
to
be
able
to
afford
these
apartments.
T
Like
my
partner
said
as
well
as
hey,
we
had
an
opportunity
to
buy
a
house
out
here.
I
had
an
opportunity
to
buy
a
house
with
my
wife.
Yes,
my
wife
works
at
Amgen,
so
a
great
opportunity
for
her
to
live
close
to
work
where
I
have
to
travel,
but
for
the
most
part,
that's
what
we
ask
is
hey.
If
there's
going
to
be
amenities,
changes
to
the
general
plan
have
some
skilled
and
trained
Workforce
language
tied
to
it
as
well.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
R
Members
of
the
Planning
Commission,
my
name
is
Rick
Schroeder.
My
city
of
residence
is
Oak
Park
I'm,
president
of
many
mansions.
Many
mansions
is
located
right
here
in
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks.
Many
mansions
is
a
non-profit,
affordable,
housing
and
service
provider
and
we
develop
affordable
housing.
We
manage
affordable
housing
and
we
provide
on-site
services
for
its
residents.
Many
mansions
is
actually
one
of
the
largest
affordable
housing
developers
in
Ventura
County
and
the
largest
provider
of
affordable
housing
in
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks,
and
we
support
the
proposed
project.
R
R
R
R
One
suggestion
I
would
make
is
that
the
community
space
of
this
particular
proposed
project
includes
some
library
or
some
dedicated
space
for
the
for
children's
programs.
This
is
especially
needed
for
our
low
income
population,
a
children's
programs
that
would
provide
an
after-school
tutoring
program
or
a
summer
camp
program
or
other
activities
again
very
needed
for
affordable
housing
families.
R
But
in
summary,
we
support
the
proposed
project.
It
is
a
beautiful
design.
It's
going
to
be
a
wonderful
asset
to
the
community
and
I
think.
We
should
be
very
grateful
that
developers
are
really
incorporating
comments
from
the
community
from
the
city
council
from
the
Planning
Commission
and
really
proposing
housing.
That's
going
to
greatly
benefit
all
of
us.
Thank
you.
N
This
site
is
another
example
of
taking
a
long
time
vacant
site
and
transforming
it
into
something
productive
for
our
community
I
personally
drive
by
this
site,
probably
at
least
two
times
a
week-
and
it
really
you
know
we
need
housing
desperately
and
to
have
something
that
is
really
producing
no
economic
benefit
and
to
transform
it
into
a
community.
I
think
that's
a
win-win
for
our
community
with
the
333
units.
I
really
appreciate
the
diversity
of
one
bedroom,
all
the
way
up
to
three
bedrooms.
We
can
accommodate.
N
N
They
glossed
over
him
a
little
bit,
but
I
mean
I
literally
sounds
like
you're
living
at
a
hotel.
It
sounds
amazing
and
I,
really
like
the
bike
storage,
since
it's
so
close
to
open
space.
I
think
they're,
a
very
you
know
purposeful,
and
some
of
the
amenities
that
they're
providing
on
site
arcade
game
room
in
addition
to
on-site
workspace
for
their
residents
and
I,
would
just
urge
you
to
consider
this
project
and
recommend
approval
to
city
council.
Thank
you.
U
U
It's
a
very
nice
looking
project,
but
it's
just
way
too
big
I
mean
way
too
big
I've
lived
here
since
1979.
U
and
I'm
watching
Thousand,
Oaks
and
I
love
this
town
we
I
was
born
and
raised
in
Santa
Monica
and
we
couldn't
afford
to
live
here,
we're
there,
and
so
we
moved
to
Newbury
Park
and
we
just
felt
like
it
was
just
a
huge
blessing
and
a
dream
come
true
and
we
love
this
community,
but
it
is
being
ruined
and
I
know
it's.
Affordable
housing
is
needed,
I
understand
it,
I
feel
for
the
people
that
need
that.
But
this
is
just
way
too
big.
U
What
happened
to
the
days
when
Thousand
Oaks
the
program
was
nothing
over
three
stories
and
there's
going
to
be
so
much
I,
don't
care
what
the
staff
said
in
this.
You
have
a
great
staff.
Those
streets
are
going
to
be
so
crowded.
Now
I
live
down
the
street
on
Hillcrest.
Just
towards
ventu
Park
and
the
units
there
used
to
be
single
family
units
across
the
street,
the
condos
no
more.
They
are
loaded
up
with
people
that
come
into
our
neighborhood
and
they
fill
up
our
neighborhood
with
cars.
U
Trash
people
drive
in
drop
their
friends
off
and
they
leave
they
Park
their
cars
there
and
go
on
trips.
They
abandon
vehicles
in
our
in
our
neighborhood
and
we
have
a
nice
very
nice
little
middle-income,
neighborhood
and
the
same
thing
is
going
to
be
happen
here.
I
guarantee
within
a
year
or
so
those
units
are
going
to
be
loaded
up.
I
can
guarantee
it
I've
seen
it
happen
so
many
times
you
may
be
thinking
it's
going
to
be
a
single
family
residence
for
each
unit.
U
It's
not
going
to
happen
more
and
more
people
will
be
moving
in.
That
place
will
be
so
crowded
with
cars.
That
intersection
will
be
so
incredibly
crowded
and
if
they
build
across
the
street
on
Michael
drive
it's
going
to
be
a
mess.
We
are
turning
our
beautiful
little
Community
into
a
a
valley
that
this
project
needs
to
be
scaled
way
down.
It
is
huge
watching
the
presentation
again
it's
a
beautiful
complex.
It
is
way
way
way
too
big
for
that
intersection.
U
U
That
intersection
is
already
crowded
and
I
know.
You've
all
been
on
the
freeways
when
we
first
moved
out
here
the
freeways
were
empty.
You
know
what
they're
like
now
our
freeways
are
crowded
and
backed
up
all
the
time.
This
is
going
to
impact
our
freeways
immensely,
so
I
know
this
might
be
a
slam
dunk
for
the
city.
U
This
thing
might
be
going
through
a
bit
if
there's
any
way
that
you
can
scale
it
down
and
think
of
the
people
that
live
here,
I
mean
we
are
going
to
be
directly
impacted,
I
want
people
to
be
able
to
find
housing,
but
there's
got
to
be
some
common
ground
and
some
some
I'm
running
out
of
time.
Here
not
negotiations,
but
Middle
Ground.
U
This
is
way
too
big.
Think
of
the
people
that
already
live
in
the
area
we
are
going
to
be
heavily
impacted,
both
sides
of
the
freeway.
There
is
no
doubt
about
it
anyway.
I
really
appreciate
your
time
and
you're
doing
a
great
job,
and
we
love
this
city
and
I
just
hope,
you'll
consider
what
I
had
to
say,
I
really
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
V
V
Is
Karen
meru
lived
in
the
area
for
over
40
years
and
love
the
area
too,
and
we
raised
our
kids
here
and,
and
we
just
we
just
absolutely
love
it.
I
am
concerned
definitely
about
the
overcrowding
you
have
that
many
people
coming
into
that
one
area
and
I
was
looking
at
and
the
plant
is
beautiful.
It's
absolutely
gorgeous,
but
I'm.
Looking
at
your
one
bedroom,
there's
going
to
be
more
than
one
person
living
in
that
one
bedroom
and
when
they're
only
allocated
one
parking
spot,
that's
not
going
to
happen.
V
You
know,
they'll
have
two
cars,
it's
just
you
know
it's
just
par
for
the
course.
So
where
are
they
going
to
park?
They're
not
going
to
be
able
to
park
on
the
street
because
you
can't
park
on
Hillcrest.
You
have
to
go
way
up
the
street
on
Amgen
or
you
come
into
our
community.
Again,
that's
another
thing
and
like
Mike
said
we
we
see
it
all
the
time
and-
and
it
is
a
problem
freeways
they
are
crowded,
they
are
definitely
crowded
right.
Now,
it's
nothing
like
it
used
to
be
before
you
get.
V
You
know
between
the
the
grade
and
just
a
little
bit
past
Lynn
Road,
it's
just
like
a
like.
We
need
two
three
more
lanes
and
we
really
don't
want
to
get
to
be
that
Valley
area
either.
The
other
thing
I'm
worried
about
is
water,
so
we
have
water
restrictions
333
more
resident.
You
know
residential
units,
that's
going
to
draw
a
lot
of
water.
So
how
do
we
do
that
when
we
already
have
water
restrictions?
Also
electricity?
If
this
is
going
to
be
all
electric?
That's
wonderful,
but
we
have
rolling
outages
again.
V
How
are
we
handling
that,
and
especially
if
we
do
build
on
the
other
side
of
the
street
too,
in
the
up
just
off
of
Orchard
in
that
that
big
I
don't
know
what
it
is
area,
then
that
is
going
to
bring.
You
know
that's
going
to
bring
a
lot
more
use
of
electricity
and
water
too,
so
between
crowding
water,
electricity,
but
it
is
beautiful.
I,
you
know
just
wish
it
could
be.
Maybe
scaled
back
would
make
a
big
difference
too,
but
that's
all
I
have
to
say
thank
you
and.
C
We
have
we'll
go
back
to
staff
for
follow-up
question
or
comments.
If
you
have
any
I.
C
You,
okay,
let's
see,
are
there
any
questions
or
comments
from
the
commissioners.
J
Future
with
regard
to
the
comments
that
were
just
made
by
Michael
and
Karen,
to
the
extent
that
there
is
excessive
parking
on
their
street,
is
there
something
that
City
can
do
in
terms
of
limiting
parking
in
a
way
that
actually
would
benefit
that
that
area.
P
W
Good
evening,
Commissioners,
not
our
hidari
city
engineer
by
and
large,
the
city
doesn't
have
those
type
of
parking
zones
or
parking
areas
permit
parking
areas
to
address
those
type
of
situations,
but
we
do
have
a
handful
of
them
that
have
been
implemented,
particularly
around
the
high
schools
and
a
few
other
areas
that
once
a
problem
is
identified
and
it's
a
legitimate
concern,
and
there
are
a
method
is
devised
to
you
know,
resolve
that
concern
and
put
that
into
place.
However,
that
does
cause
some.
W
Right
right,
we
have
about
a
half
dozen
areas
of
the
city
that
have
that.
J
W
Well,
I
would
leave
that
question
may
be
up
to
the
City
attorney,
but
to
address
those
concerns
again.
The
the
water
usage
by
and
large,
throughout
the
state
and
in
the
Southern
California
area
is
a
function
of
outdoor
water
use
and
con.
The
conservation
and
the
majority
of
the
water
use
taking
place
is
on
you
know:
irrigation
of
outdoor
water
use
and
Lawns
and
non-functional
Turf,
and
that's
really
the
the
low-hanging
fruit
there.
The
the
way
these
newer
units
are
are
constructed
and
designed.
W
J
W
Well,
yeah,
it's
I
mean
it's
competing
interest
for
sure.
Luckily,
right
now
we're
in
a
lot
better
position,
Water
Wise
than
we
were.
You
know
six
months
or
a
year
ago,
so
and
as
far
as
electricity,
a
lot
of
the
outages
that
have
been
taking
place
and
we're
in
constant
communication
with
Southern
California
Edison.
W
You
know
a
lot
of
those
are
unrelated
to
the
number
of
units
using
whether
many
of
them
are
PSPs,
there's
high
winds
and
they
have
to
shut
off
a
certain
circuit
as
a
precautionary
measure,
so
that
doesn't
and
that's
not
affected
by
how
many
units
are
connected
to
that
particular
circuit
or
not
so
adding
more
units
to
a
particular
area
doesn't
really
affect
the
majority
of
the
outages
that
are
taking
place,
whether
they're
you
know
an
outage
because
of
Maintenance
or
malfunctioning
equipment,
or
it's
this
PSPs
outage,
which
those
are
the
majority
of
the
outages.
W
J
K
You
the
main
chair
just
for
commissioner
lansing's
question
regarding
the
water.
Certainly
the
eir,
as
it
always
will
reviews
The
Water
Analysis,
to
ensure
that
adequate
water
can
be
provided
to
this
project,
and
that
was
thoroughly
reviewed
in
the
eir.
It
was
confirmed
and
it's
always
going
to
be
addressed,
and
so
that
is
in
today's
world,
something
that
we
always
must
do,
and
it
was
confirmed
through
the
water
provider.
C
Thank
you,
commissioner,
link.
G
Thank
you,
chair
McMahon,
had
a
question
for
well
miss
Kendall,
probably
and
I
meant
to
ask
this
early,
so
my
apologies,
the
general
plan
land
use,
slash
housing
element
that
is
in
process
with
the
state.
Right
now
actually
addresses
this
site
and
changes
it
to
or
was
or
I
believe
it's
mixed
use
or
was
identified
as
an
opportunity
Zone.
Was
it
not.
G
Correct
so
we
have
the
land
use
element
and
we
had
addressed
that
several
years
ago
and
then
the
housing
element
has
gone
to
the
state
for
approval,
or
at
least
review
or
still
in
review.
But
this
site
specifically
was
actually
identified
as
an
opportunity
Zone
to
be
rezoned
for
housing,
correct
right.
P
And
it
is
to
be
zoned
or
designated.
Excuse
me
mixed
use,
mixed.
G
B
C
G
C
Any
other
questions.
Okay,
at
this
point,
the
applicant
has
five
minutes
if
they
care
to
rebut
any
anything.
That's
been
said.
E
If
I'm
a
Mr
Cohen
I
just
want
to,
is
it
possible
I
can
ask
you
about
the
language
request
for
the
condition
of
the
quality
of
construction,
given
that
it
affects
you,
there
was
a
130e
talks
about
the
affordable
units
should
be
comparable
on
exterior
appearance
and
overall
Quality
Construction.
Would
you
be
okay
if
that
were
changed,
to
must
yeah.
Q
The
the
intent
is
that
all
you
will
not
be
able
to
differentiate
an
affordable
unit
from
a
market
rate
unit.
Great.
C
Anything
else:
okay,
thank
you
very
much
at
this
point,
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
I
will
open
up
the
floor
for
discussion
and
or
emotion.
Commissioner
Lansing.
J
Thank
you
chair.
It's
rare
that
I
don't
ask
questions
of
the
applicant,
but
that
was
because
they
answered
so
many
of
them
and
Mr
Coleman.
One
thing
you
said
really
kind
of
struck
me.
It
was
the
check
off
the
Box
there's
so
many
things
that
I
think
all
of
us
and
specifically
my
focus
in
terms
of
trying
to
find
a
project
and
all
the
things
that
it
would
bring
together,
and
this
does
check
off
all
those
boxes.
J
We're
dealing
with
affordable
housing
units,
a
foreign
access
again
of
what
you
you
know
for
it,
but
in
excess
of
what
you
were
required
to
do
in
an
area
that
is
so
in
need
of
these
types
of
units
near
biotech,
I
can't
think
of
a
better
place
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
those
people
and
those
businesses
are
going
to
be
supported.
I
know
Michael
and
Karen
you're
frustrated
about
the
size,
but
I
would
suggest
or
say
that
our
city
has
an
increased
in
density.
J
Yes,
it's
not
perfect
in
a
sense,
but
I
think
this
project
is
as
close
as
it's
going
to
get
to
perfect
in
terms
of
accommodating,
so
many
different
issues:
the
the
EV
charging
stations,
the
electric
units
providing
for
a
mixed,
constant,
providing
an
experience
based
process
that
people
can
kind
of
live
and
work
and
get
to
different
places.
Again,
you
checked
off
all
the
boxes
for
me
in
terms
of
trying
to
satisfy
as
much
as
possible
you're
not
going
over
the
height
issues.
J
You're,
not
asking
for
variances,
really
I
mean
you're,
really
kind
of
staying
within
our
code
and
doing
everything
possible,
I.
Think
to
accommodate
you
had
you
know
very,
very
little
opposition
I
know
we
had
a
few
people,
they're,
not
happy
about
just
the
the
concept,
but
such
a
a
productive
process
in
terms
of
reaching
out
to
the
community
and
and
trying
to
engage
our
citizens
and
engage
our
rules
that
again
I
it
to
me.
It
checks
off
all
the
boxes.
J
I
just
again:
I
love
the
design,
I
love
the
concept,
I
think.
Ultimately,
it's
going
to
end
up
helping
our
biotech
sector.
It's
going
to
make
us
a
much
more
attractive
place
for
lots
of
different
companies,
especially
Again.
By
virtue
of
the
prior
hearing.
We
had
that's
going
to
end
up,
creating
more
opportunities,
creating
more
more
jobs,
more
benefit
for
our
society
and
Community,
especially
for
younger
people.
J
That
again,
is
our
next
Generation,
it's
okay,
to
get
gentrified
every
once
in
a
while,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
we
have
a
a
base
of
people
that
are
coming
through
the
see
I
have
a
30
and
28
year
old
right
now
that
can't
find
someplace.
We
have
very
few
housing
there's
only
a
hundred
and
I
think
over
almost
just
a
hundred
houses
for
sale.
All
over
the
city
I
mean
it's,
it's
a
very,
very
small
amount.
J
So
we
need
to
find
ways
to
create
opportunities
for
for
younger
people
and
for
businesses
that
want
to
actually
kind
of
come
here.
So
I'm
going
to
stop
blabbing
and
read
I'm,
going
to
go
ahead
and
make
the
motion
to
approve
or
adopt
the
resolution
to
certify
the
final
environmental
impact
report
associated
with.
J
C
J
G
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
at
least
brought
up
or
alluded
to
it
earlier,
but
for
the
the
process
that
we
are
undertaking
with
the
general
plan,
the
land
use
element,
the
housing
element,
which
is
still
sitting
with
hcd
and
churning
as
most
cities.
I
think
approximately
70
cities
in
the
state
of
California
are
out
of
compliance
as
a
result
of
comments
from
hcd,
so
we're
all
sort
of
awaiting
the
the
answer
on
that.
G
But
this
site
would
be
developed
as
this
project,
so
really
there's
that
this
is
sort
of
the
direction
that
we're
having
and
I
can
certainly
appreciate
the
scale
and
the
massing.
But
the
state,
also
as
we're
grinding
away
with
a
lot
of
these
regulations,
have
sort
of
pushed
Us
in
that
direction
as
well.
We
have
several
hundred
units
in
our
Regional
Housing
needs
assessment,
number
that
we
need
to
meet
and
the
city
isn't
the
body
that
specifies
what
gets
built
that's
up
to
the
developers
and
for
the
developers
to
then
make
those
projects
pencil
out.
G
There
has
to
be
a
certain
mix
of
units
and
when
you
have
affordable,
obviously
the
affordable
is
coming
from
somewhere.
So
you're
sort
of
robbing
Peter
to
pay
Paul
in
that
Essence,
so
we're
going
to
see
larger
scales
of
projects,
especially
on
the
site
as
large
as
this
that
can
support
it.
So,
in
spite
of
that,
mass
and
and
in
you
know,
really
what
you
know
where
we're
headed
as
far
as
the
state
is
concerned,
there
is
a
lot
to
like
about
this
project.
G
I've
seen
it
here
that
this
kind
of
project
attracts
a
younger
demographic
and
a
lot
of
the
projects
that
are
being
constructed
in
and
around
the
area
are
attracting
people
who
don't
have
cars
who
actually
work
from
home,
and
there
are
spaces
in
this
project
that
provide
the
ability
to
flexible
workspaces,
to
to
take
a
conference,
call
from
a
common
space
and
do
all
of
your
work
from
home,
and
you
don't
need
the
car
or
you
have
Uber
parking
spaces.
A
lot
of
projects
are
providing
those
spaces.
G
In
fact,
the
the
the
the
people
who
drop
off
the
packages
they
don't
necessarily
they
Park
wherever
they
want,
but
I've
seen
projects
that
actually
provide
spaces
for
the
you
know:
I'm
not
going
to
name
them
by
name
the
big
retail
guy
that
owns
everything.
So
you
know
everything
is:
is
people
don't
go
anywhere
and
people
don't
own
as
many
cars
and
I'm
seeing
projects
that
are
over
part?
So,
even
in
that
respect,
this
project
is
providing
above
and
beyond
what
the
state
is
requiring
for
these
units.
G
So
we've
got
one
and
a
quarter.
Spaces
is
the
requirement
from
the
state
they're
providing
two,
so
that
does
seem
low,
but
the
people
who
take
up
all
the
parking
spaces
are
the
people
who
live
in
single-family
homes,
because
they're
not
using
their
garages,
for
what
they're
intended
for
I
can
tell
you
all
the
Christmas
decorations
are
in
those
garages.
So
again,
there's
a
lot
to
a
lot
to
like
about
this
project.
In
spite
of
the
scale
and
I
will
fully
support
it.
E
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
get
a
couple
clarifications
from
the
the
maker
of
the
motion.
E
It
intended
to
include
the
corrections
that
were
stated
in
the
staff
report
that
that
were
mentioned
by
Ms
Kendall.
Absolutely.
E
K
Would
say
that
we're
just
changing
the
language
to
clarify
that
it
is
going
to
be
a
shall
or
a
must,
and
the
same
thing
would
go
to
the
language
in
the
development
agreement
section
19.:
it's
copying
what
what
the
condition,
what
the
Covenant
says
as
far
as
our
policies,
so
the
fact
that
we
would
change
it
to
must
or
an
affirmative
versus
should
we
would
make
those
changes.
Okay,
then,
yes,.
E
That
would
be
included.
Thank
you,
given
that.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
I
will
support
the
motion.
The
I
do
it's
a
very
nice
project.
I
think
it
is
consistent
with
city
council
Direction
for
where
they
want
to
change
the
mix
of
housing
in
in
the
city.
E
E
The
building
height,
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
things
I
think
that
at
least
where
I
want
to
try
and
state
my
thinking
on
why
I'm
approving
this
state
law
has
changed
to
provide
those
that
give
public
benefits
for
ensuring
that
affordable
units
are
provided
in
their
development,
that
they
get
a
density
bonus
for
doing
so,
and
that's
what
this
project
is
asking
for.
It's,
basically
with
the
change
of
making
this
property
commercial
residential
in
this
city,
maximum
density
is
30
units
per
net
acre
with
the
density
bonus,
it
would
become
40
units.
E
In
order
to
do
that,
they
need
a
fourth
floor,
which
means
they
need
an
additional
height
to
be
able
to
accommodate
the
public
benefit
of
allowing
those
that
do
not
have
the
affluent
needs
of
most
in
this
community
to
be
able
to
live
and
work
here.
Just
like
everybody
else,
and
in
doing
that
that
is
where
I
can
see
that
public
benefit.
If
it
had
not
been
done,
this
should
be
a
three-story
building.
E
This
is
one
of
the
things
to
be
able
to
be
able
to
accommodate
that.
For
the
protected
tree
permit-
and
this
is
something
I
want
to
I-
think
just
engage
in
and
commission
discussion
after
this,
because
there
are
17
trees
that
are
being
asked
protected,
trees.
We
asked
for
removal,
we
have
a
mitigation
of
three
to
one
great,
it's
because
the
previous
project,
where
they
placed
all
the
oak
trees,
have
now
matured
and
for
this
project
you
can't
have
them
do
this
project
without
removing
some
of
the
protected
trees.
E
It's
great
that
they've
protected
as
many
as
they
can,
but
I'm
really
concerned
that
over
the
course
of
time,
we're
going
to
see
many
more
of
these
situations
so
because
it
does
appear
that,
given
the
benefits
of
state
are
providing
and
everything
that
that
that's
being
asked
for
from
the
project
and
the
public
benefits
reasonable,
conforming
uses
would
be
restricted
if
they
were
not
were
forced
to
keep
the
trees
in
their
current
place,
and
for
that
reason,
I
can
support.
This
particular
request
for
removal.
E
I
am
heartened
that
the
applicant
is
agreeable
to
some
of
the
changes
in
the
language
and
the
conditions
to
ensure
that
there
is
a
a
requirement
that
the
quality
construction
is
the
same
and
that
is
dispersed
throughout
all
the
buildings
I
when
I
read
it
doing
the
math
and
where
all
the
what
the
language
stated
did
not
actually
specify
that
it
felt
like
they
were
going
to
be
pushed
off
into
one
building.
So
I'm
really
happy
that
that
is
not
the
case.
E
Hopefully
it
will
serve
as
a
a
an
additional
stock
for
housing
needed
for
the
entire.
You
know
a
wide
variety
of
the
people
who
choose
to
live
here
in
Asian
and
economic
ability
to
pay,
and
for
those
reasons
that
I,
you
know
I'm
willing
to
support
this
project.
E
But
I
do
really
want
to
stress
that
we
always
we
really
need
to
take
care
of
them,
because
the
other
comments
that
came
in
about
the
impacts
of
parking,
the
impacts
of
traffic,
the
impacts
of
the
one
of
the
reasons
why
they
came
and
lived
here
in
the
beginning.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
city
maintains
that
great
quality
of
life
going
forward.
So
for
those
all
those
reasons,
they'll
support
the
motion.
C
Thank
you
and
said
tonight:
I
think
I
agree
with
most
of
it.
Excuse
me.
One
thing:
I
want
to
comment
on
is
for
years,
we've
been
hearing
that
our
business
Community
needs
housing
and
this
provides
housing
and
it
provides
housing
near
a
lot
of
our
businesses,
and
that
is
a
real
plus
and
it
does
it
beautifully.
The
fact
that
they've
added
extra,
affordable
housing
units
is
also
very
nice.
C
I
I
appreciate
that,
but
one
thing
I'm
very
much
looking
towards
the
future
and
I
want
to
see
our
city
become
as
bicycle
friendly
as
possible
and
every
development
that's
come
across.
Our
commission
I
have
asked
the
question
to
the
applicant:
do
you
have
bicycle
Corrals
and
the
answers
have
not
been
very
satisfactory
and
you
guys
have
done
it.
You've
got
what
did
I
I
see
a
hundred
bike
and
scooter
Corrals,
and
on
top
of
that,
you
have
electric
plugs
for
the
electric
ones,
I'm
loving,
that
that's
awesome.
C
C
Thank
you
and
thank
you
everybody
for
coming
tonight
and
sitting
through
this
long
meeting,
and
there
is
no
appeal
period
because
it
is
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council.
C
Okay
item
number:
eight
Department
reports.
G
E
Yeah
coming
off
of
the
because
this
is
a
much
more
General
comment
regarding
a
oak
tree:
preservation,
protection
mitigation
measures,
the
the
mitigation
measures
we
create
and
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
this
I'm,
bringing
it
up
for
commission
comment
to
see
what
what
what
the
commission
thinks
about
it
or
whether
we
should
discuss
it
in
the
future,
but
the
three
to
one
mitigation
measure
was
really
kind
of
established.
E
Well,
you
know,
and,
and
rightly
so,
to
say,
look
if
you're
going
to
take
out
an
oak
tree
like
let's
replace
it
with
three
to
one,
and
that
really
was
the
time
in
which
we
were
going
from
natural
terrain
to
developed.
You
know
projects,
and
this
last
one.
E
There's
going
to
be
a
need
to
to
take
out
more
oak
trees,
and,
and
it's
it's
always
going
to
come
up
in
in
our
you
know,
in
our
request
to
do
so,
and
I'm
just
wondering
is,
you
know,
is
three
to
one
or
is
the
right
way
to
mitigate
this.
Is
that
a
is
that
enough?
Good,
because
when
they're
placed
on
a
project
and
they
grow
to
a
certain
size
when
they
redevelop
we're
going
to
take
those
more
mature
trees
out
and
we're
going
to
replace
them
with
less
mature
trees?
E
And
that's
going
to
kind
of
be
the
The
Standard
Process
going
forward
and
I
would
be
worthy
of
having
a
future
discussion
about
whether
that's
what
we
want
in
Thousand
Oaks,
for
how
we
do
that.
It's
a
because
we're
in
a
little
bit
of
a
different
different
phase
of
our
city,
and
we
just
want
to
know
what
that
was
the
fact.
We've
got
a
couple
of
these
projects
that
it
just
keeps
coming
up
kind
of
heightens.
My
awareness
of
the
differences.
K
Be
the
city
council
I
was
going
to
jump
in
depending
on
what
your
questions
were
and,
and
so
first
of
all,
I
appreciate
the
comments
and
I
certainly
have
no
objection
to
the
comments.
I
think
this
is
not
a
time.
We
cannot
have
a
discussion
about
it
tonight
as
far
as
anyone
else's
thoughts
on
on
this
item,
just
because
it
would
be
something
that
would
be
a
violation
of
the
brown
act.
K
Nevertheless,
here
in
the
comment,
it's
something
that
I
think
staff
will
discuss
internally
just
to
see
if
that
is
something
that
as
a
policy
that
city
council
is
interested
in
in
reviewing
and
of
course
it
would
be
something
that
would
come
back
to
Planning
Commission
at
some
point
in
time,
if
it
was
something
that
would
be
reviewed
at
a
later
date,
so
certainly
appreciate
the
comments
and
I
understand
exactly
what
what
commissioner
Ferris
is
saying
about
these
projects,
because
it
is
something
that
we
are
now
discussing
even
from
the
previous
commissioner
bus
who
would
talk
about
the
mitigation
trees
and
where
these
trees
that
were
removing
actually
mitigation
trees
for
the
prior
project.
K
And
so
obviously,
things
are
changing
too,
with
our
with
our
housing
needs,
and
so
that's
another
factor
that
we
have
to
rely
upon.
So
that's
a
long
statement.
I
was
saying:
I
I
certainly
respect
the
comment
and
certainly
will
address
that.
As
far
as
an
internal
comment
comment
that
we
have
when
we
have
our
weekly
meetings
on
those
issues
and
we
can
take
it
from
there
and
certainly
report
back
if
necessary,.
C
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
other
comments?
Okay,
item
number
10,
Mr
Kearns:
are
there
any
follow-up
items,
announcements
or
upcoming
issues.
F
Thank
you,
chair
McMahon
members
of
the
commission.
We
do
a
few
Council
items
coming
up
tomorrow
night.
We
they
surprisingly
City
Community
Development
Department,
does
not
have
any
on
that
agenda.
Harvard
on
June
20th.
We
will
have
a
public
hearing
to
consider
your
recommendation
on
this
project
a
lot
of
Hillcrest
Project
tonight.
F
We
also
have
a
couple
of
consent:
calendar
items,
an
eir
consultant
contract
Amendment
for
a
project
on
Rolling
Oaks,
building
on-call
Services
list
Amendment
and
on
July
11th,
we'll
have
a
second
reading
of
the
ordinance
for
this
project
if
it
goes
through
the
approval
process.
Thank.
C
F
Planning
Commission,
oh
okay,
plan.
Commission.
The
next
meeting
is
on
July
June
19th.
Okay,
we
do
have
a
request
for
a
medical
office
building
at
the
location
on
the
corner
of
pencefield
and
Brazil
at
420
Penfield,
that's
a
former
location
of
it
was
a.
There
was
a
sushi
restaurant.
It
burned
down
and
they're
going
to
rebuild,
proposing
a
medical
office
building.
E
Yeah
because
you
noted
that
the
date
is
June
19th,
is
there
any
recognition
or
honoring
of
the
Juneteenth
federal
holiday
and
are
we
actually
going
to
be
meeting
on
Juneteenth.
K
And
great
comment,
commissioner:
Ferris
I
I
think
it
is
something
that
our
city
is
actually
looking
at
as
far
as
a
possible
a
holiday
as
far
as
work
is
concerned.
So
it
is
something
that
I
think
the
HR
team
and
and
staff
as
a
whole
and
the
I
should
say
the
executive
team
are
reviewing
and
deciding.
If
that's
something
that's
going
to
be
done
and
and
I
and
we're
taking
it
from
there.
But
yeah.
C
Okay,
all
right.
Thank
you.
We
will
now
adjourn
to
the
next
meeting
June
19th
2023
at
6,
PM,
bang,
my
gavel,
foreign.