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A
20.
it's
time
for
the
planning
commission
meeting
would
ever
please
stand
and
join
me
in
the
pledge
of
allegiance
ready,
begin.
B
A
D
A
All
right
so
go
to
item
four,
which
is
written
comments,
announcements,
supplemental
materials.
Mr
kearns,
do
you
have
a
announcement?
Yes
thank.
E
E
This
item
was
continued
because
the
the
legal
notification
signs
on
site
were
not
properly
updated
with
the
date
and
time
of
this
meeting.
So
we
were,
we
had
to
continue
to
this
next
scheduled
meeting.
E
Also
related
to
that
matter
is
a
supplemental
packet
which
was
distributed
to
the
planning
commission
this
afternoon.
This
supplemental
packet
contains
correspondence
related
to
the
starbucks
application.
This
material
will
be
presented
to
the
planning
commission
as
part
of
the
pack
at
the
january
11th
meeting,
and
this
is
all
I
have
for
now.
A
Thank
you
and
again.
If
anybody
has
additional
comments
and
wants
to
participate
in
the
hearing
on
january
11,
please
obviously
know
they
can
do
that.
The
supplemental
packet
was
not
all
the
information
again.
If
you
still
want
to
submit
information
you
can
for
that.
I
know
we
have
one
public
speaker,
mr
cox,
if
you
were
going
to
speak
on
that
item,
you
can
drop
off
at
this
point
because
again
it's
been
moved
to
january
11th.
A
If
it's
a
general
public
comment,
you
have
as
to
something
else
we'll
get
to
you
in
as
part
of
our
agenda.
I
did
want
to
have
a
few
announcements
myself.
I
initially
wanted
to
congratulate
our
former
mayor,
al
adam
for
re-election
and
getting
what
I
believe
was
the
most
votes
by
a
city
council
person
and
to
congratulate
our
newest
city
council
person,
kevin
mcnamee.
I
look
forward
to
both
of
their
leadership
in
the
next
four
years,
especially
as
to
the
general
plan
update
and
amendment
we're
going
to
be
doing.
A
So
again,
thank
you
for
that
and
to
also
congratulate
our
new
mayor
pro
tem
bob
angler,
and
to
thank
mr
engler
and
also
our
council
member
ed
jones,
for
I
thought
was
a
very
congenial
and
amazing
display
of
of
coming
together
by
both
nominating
each
other
for
mayor
pro
tem.
So
thank
you
for
that
moment
for
both
of
you.
Lastly,
thank
yous
and
congratulations
to
mark
town,
our
community
development
director
who
has
been
retiring.
A
The,
although
the
seats
may
be
changing
a
little
bit,
including
the
very
one
I'm
sitting
in
the
city
has
continued
run
by
fantastic,
dedicated,
very
knowledgeable
people
and
to
always
try
to
make
sure
our
city
is
as
good
as
they
can
be.
With
that,
let's
go
on
to
item
six,
the
consent
calendar
commissioners.
Any
comments
about
this
consent
calendar.
A
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
we
should
go
back
one.
Second,
commissioners,
let's
go
back.
Let's
do
the
public
comment,
mr
cox,
did
you
have
a?
Are
you
still
there
and
did
you
have
a
comment
about
the
starbucks
project
or
just
a
general
public
comment.
A
C
I
do
have
one
note:
if
you
don't
mind
on
page
two,
the
vote,
commissioner
newman
is
marked
recused,
but
we
need
to
remove
his
name
from
the
votes
in
favor.
Thank
you.
A
A
D
A
He
was
not
there
he's
gonna,
be
abstained
right.
C
7A
hearing
having
been
advertised
as
required
by
law,
is
hereby
open
to
consider
agenda
item
7a,
precise
plan
of
design,
ppd
2017-70335.
C
G
G
This
is
the
area
photo
of
aerial
photo
of
the
proposed
site
to
the
north
of
the
property.
Is
a
self
storage?
Building
to
the
north
east
is
a
property
with
three
single-family
homes,
and,
if
you
can
remember,
this
is
the
site
of
a
recently
approved
self-storage
facility
on
willow
lane
to
the
to
the
south
or
to
the
northeast.
Further
northeast
is
the
nursery
a
single-family
home
and
to
the
south
side
would
be
a
single-family
homes
and
the
rest
of
them
are
vacant
property,
vacant
properties,
zoned,
re13,.
G
The
request
involves
encroachment
within
natural
sloping
terrain
of
25
or
greater,
and
this
is
the
reason
why
it's
being
brought
before
the
planning
commission
today.
G
As
a
project,
sam
summary,
the
applicant
is
requesting
to
construct
a
one-story
home
on
each
of
the
five
legally
created
lots.
There
will
be
a
single
driveway
going
through
lot
three
to
the
rest
of
the
residences
grading.
There
will
be
great
encroachment
within
25
percent
or
greater
slope
there.
The
light
line
adjustment
will
involve
four
of
the
five
lots:
that's
slots,
62,
63,
64
and
65..
G
The
purpose
of
the
line
adjustment
is
to
redraw
the
lines
to
minimize
disturbance
within
the
natural
slopes
of
six
large,
64
and
65,
which
you
will
see
in
later
slides
all
the
utilities
going.
All
the
new
retail
utilities
providing
services
to
the
single-family
homes
will
be
placed
underground
and
there
are
no
protected
trees
that
will
be
impacted
by
this
project.
G
The
lot
line
adjustment
this
this
is
the
existing
lot
lot
line
sizes
for
the
each
of
the
lots,
and
the
proposed
lots
lot.
Three,
which
is
the
one
by
skyline
adjacent
to
skyline,
will
not
change
lots.
62,
63
and
64
has
are
all
legal,
conforming
lots
with
13
000
million
square
foot.
G
G
on
the
right
side
of
the
screen
is
the
proposed
lot
line
for
the
project.
The
intent
of
this
lot
line
adjustment.
Well,
let
me
back
up
a
little
bit
as
you
can
see.
64
and
65
are
predominantly
steep
slopes,
natural
steering,
25
or
greater
after
the
proposed
lot
line
adjustment.
G
If
it's
approved,
then
there
will
be
enough
development
pads
that
are
flat
enough
for
to
to
minimize
encroachment
within
25
percent
or
greater
slope.
G
D
G
If
the
there's
there's
a
for
four
questions
on
regarding
the
staging
for
dump
trucks,
staff
is
anticipating
that
willow,
lane
or
and
I'm
sorry
conejo
ridge
may
be
used
as
a
staging
area
for
the
truck,
because
it's
a
very,
very
seldomly
traveled
street.
G
So
in
terms
of
grading,
let
me
back
up
a
little
bit.
Sorry,
this
this
table
depicts
the
overall
lot
area,
the
amount
of
25
or
greater
slope
and
the
amount
of
encroachment
with
between
within
those
inc
slope
lot
a
has
an
overall
lot
size
of
fifteen
thousand
one
hundred
eighty
two
square
feet
with
with
forty
percent
of
it
being
twenty
five
percent
or
greater
lot
lot,
a
at
thirteen
thousand
square
feet,
fifty
six
percent
of
it
and
so
and
so
forth.
G
La
la
b
has
seventy
six
percent
natural
slope
c,
72
and
d
at
33
percent.
So
the
encroachment
here
is
for
lot.
One
lottery
is
495
square
feet,
which
is
8.1
percent
off
the
25
slope
and
twelve
percent
for
lats,
a
two
percent
for
lot
b
and
very
minimal
for
lat
c
lat
is
one
percent,
so
adding
the
totals
of
the
total
of
the
25
or
greater
slope.
It
comes
up
to
69
000
square
feet,
which
is
61
of
the
project
area.
G
Slope
this
have
you
seen
the
you've
seen
this
map
before
this
is
the
proposed
lot
line
and
the
next
slide
will
show
you
the
locations
of
the
houses
within
this
with
this
map.
So
this
shows
you
how
much
encroachment
is
being
that
is
being
used
up
here,
so
small
portions
of
each
of
the
lot
each
of
the
resulting
luck.
G
G
The
residue,
all
the
residences
feature
split
level
floors
to
blend
with
the
natural
contour
of
the
property.
So,
as
you
can
see,
it's
sloping
down
so
there's
a
level
here
floor
level
here
here,
and
here
same
goes
with
the
with
residence
on
on
lot
a
it's
got
a
split
level
as
well.
G
This
is
a
depiction
of
the
conceptual
landscape
plans.
This
is
not
a
final
design.
This
is
just
conceptual.
The
final
design
will
be
reviewed
and
approved
by
at
the
staff
level
by
our
landscape
consultant.
As
you
can
see
it,
it
features
lots
of
trees.
Some
of
them
are
oak
trees
that
will
be
planted
to
to
reduce
the
visibility
from
the.
G
Freeway
so
as
far
as
setback
height
and
parking
standards,
it's
it's
been
outlined
in
the
staff
report,
and
this
complies
with
the
setback,
height
and
parking
standards
of
the
municipal
code.
The
contemporary
architecture
style
has
er
tone-colored,
taco,
concrete
tiles
and
roof
materials,
as
called
four
in
our
precise
planet
design
guidelines.
G
Requires
minimal
grading,
step
floors
and
angled
roof
angle
structures,
sloping
roof
along
the
slope
and
and
landscaping.
These
are
all
features
of
this
project.
The
projects
has
has
fully
complied
with
our
thousand
municipal
codes
and
both
the
precise
plan
of
design
guidelines
and
the
free,
the
free
freeway
corridor
policy.
G
The
applicant
is
also
requesting
a
an
underground
utility
waiver.
The
municipal
code
provides
certain
criteria
to
wave
underground
requirement
and,
and
these
are
geological,
soil
condition,
topographic
topographical
conditions,
existing
of
overhead
lines
and
cost
of
undergrounding
staff
is
supporting
this
to
due
to
the
existing
existence
of
existing
utility
lines
near
the
projects.
G
This
a
brush
clearance
easement,
will
be
offered
to
the
surrounding
property
owner
so
that
the
responsibility
of
brush
clearance
will
fall
upon
the
applicant
not
on
the
adjacent
property
owners,
and
these
are
conditions
that's
required.
The
applicant
to
provide
to
before
the
building
permit
is
issued.
G
All
residences
will
be
on
city
sewer.
Four
of
the
residents
of
the
five
so
four,
which
is
up
on
the
hill,
will
be
on
on
its
own
water
wells,
because
the
finish
floor
for
each
exceeds
966
feet
in
elevation
and
our
city,
water
service
would
not
have
enough
pressure
to
provide
at
that
at
that
height.
Although
the
the
fire
spring
sprinklers
would
be
connected
to
city
water
service.
G
G
The
lot
line
adjustment,
most
importantly,
will
significantly
reduce
grading
into
the
25
percent
and
preserve
natural
hillsides,
which
is
way
in
compliance
with
the
city's
general
policy
general
plan
policy
of
prevent
of
preserving
natural
open
space,
and
it
complies
with
the
city's,
precise
planet
design
guidelines
and
the
scenic
highway
corridor,
and
with
that
staff
is
recommending
that
the
planning
commission
adopt
a
resolution
approving
the
request
for
the
five
single
family
homes,
ppd
20-70-335-70339.
G
G
Sorry
about
the
fumble
and
with
that
staff
is
available
for
questions.
A
B
B
My
first
question
is
about
the
retaining
walls
is
just
so
I
understand
is:
is
the
requirement
in
in
the
municipal
code
for
retaining
walls
to
have
a
maximum
height
of
six
feet?
Is
that
correct.
G
Yes,
it
is
normally
retaining.
Walls
are
limited
to
six
feet.
If
it
exceeds
six
feet,
we
normally
would
step
them
up
to
break
them
up.
So,
yes,
we
we
do
try
to
minimize
the
heights
of
the
retaining
walls.
B
G
The
maximum
would
be
10
feet.
Okay,.
B
B
G
B
Regarding
brush
clearance,
this
is
a
sensitive
area
to
wildfires
it's
a
steep
area,
so
really
two
questions
about
brush
clearance.
One
do
I
presume
correctly
that
the
fire
department
is
satisfied
with
the
brush
clearance.
Guidance
is
given
here
and
two.
B
Is
there
anything
that
would
merit
clearance
of
greater
than
100
feet
anywhere
on
or
adjacent
to
this
application
area?.
G
I'm
not
aware
of
anything
that
would
warrant
a
hundred
foot,
far
clearance
from
the
fire
department.
I've
discussed
this
issue
with
the
fire
department
representative
and
they
are
satisfied
with
underfoot
brush
clearance.
B
Okay,
moving
on
to
water,
I
believe
you'd
mentioned
that
at
least
some
of
the
properties
that
would
be
created
here
would
have
individual
wells,
and
my
question
on
that
is
whether
one
property
digging
a
well
would
affect
access
to
water
for
an
adjacent
property
or
for
any
neighboring
property.
I
know
I
know
this
has
been
a
pretty
contentious
issue
out
in
the
san
joaquin
valley.
G
Maybe
senior
engineer
from
public
works
will
answer
the
question.
I
forgot
his
name.
H
H
Yes,
it
it
definitely
can.
It
just
depends
on
what
the
groundwater
table
is
like
in
this
area,
and
that's
why
the
the
city
of
thousand
oaks?
We
don't
permit
the
wells
that
goes
through
the
county,
so
the
county
will
be
responsible
for
permitting
these
wells
and
as
part
of
that,
they
will
have
to
have
a
study
and
they'll
have
to
have
a
geologist
recommend
these
wells,
so
that
will
have
to
go
through
the
county
to
permit
that.
B
All
right,
okay
out
of
our
bailout,
then
it's
a
concern,
but
it's
ventura
county's
concern,
I
guess,
and
then
the
final
set
of
questions
I
have
is
regarding
the
undergrounding
of
utility
lines
back
in
september
2014,
the
commission
heard
a
case
where
we
added
a
condition
that
required
the
new
property
owners
to
be
part
of
an
assessment
district.
B
This
was
a
long
hillcrest
drive
at
the
corner
of
houston
and
with
the
idea
that
that,
while
there
wouldn't
be
an
immediate
requirement
to
underground
lines,
the
assessment
district
would
would
amass
the
funds
and
then
underground
them.
So
that
was
six
years
ago
and
the
lines
are
still
above
ground
there
and
here
we're
in
an
even
more
sensitive
place
to
to
fire,
and
we
know
that
lines
above
ground
can
be
a
fire
danger.
B
So
the
question
is:
are
there
other
cases
I
mean,
with
the
exception
of
the
undergrounding
of
lines
along
teo
boulevard,
which
I
think
was
a
municipal
project?
Have
there
been
on
any
other
cases
where
residential
lines
have
been
undergrounded
in
recent
memory?.
G
I'm
not
can't
recall
anything
in
particular,
I
mean
it
for
for
all
the
cases
that
I
brought
before
the
planning
commission,
most
of
the
underground
utility
waivers,
have
been
approved
by
the
commission.
I
don't
know
if
mr
bussell
here
would
have
knowledge
of
any
capital
improvement
to
underground
lines.
H
The
most
recent
underground
we
did
with
the
residential
housing
project
was
the
one
on
hillcrest
and
lone
oak.
That
is
just
completing
right
now
that
undergrounding
project
there's
been
some
multi-family
projects
where
we've
done
undergrounding.
Typically
for
the
single
family
homes,
we
have
not
been
requiring
underground
for
those
for
those
projects.
E
Maybe
I
can
answer
some
of
that
in
the
past
we
had
this
requirements
since
late
80s,
actually
on
properties,
and
they
have
been
around.
However,
unfortunately,
none
of
them
panned
out,
we
did
not
see
many
success
with
this
condition
and
creating
districts
excuse.
E
No,
no!
No!
Oh
okay!
Go
ahead,
I'm
I'm
sorry!
My
name
is
mohammed
fatimi,
I'm
division
manager
for
the
engineering,
public
works
and
but
the
districts
normally
they
did
not
work
out
because
of
the
issue
you're
going
to
have
with
many
property
owners,
they're
trying
to
gather
around,
and
it
never
worked
out.
E
New
newberry
road
is
another
example
that
we
use
those
funds
to
partner
with
the
developers
to
process
that,
because
of
the
rule,
20b
discounts,
we
can
get
from
southern
california
edison
for
any
areas
over
600
feet,
so
that
would
get
us
the
maximum
amount
of
underground.
We
can
get
for
our
dollar
money.
So
that's
the
process
we've
been
using
and
has
been
very
successful.
E
B
A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
newman
other
commissioner,
questions
of
staff,
who
I
now
know
are
more
than
just
mr
chua,
and
I
apologize
for
not
recognizing
that
you
were
also
speaking
for
the
city.
Other
commissioner
questions,
nelson
boss,.
F
Go
ahead
on
the
on
the
same
vein
of
this
undergrounding,
I
read
initially
in
the.
I
think
it's
in
the
summary
it
says
all
new
utilities
serving
the
homes
will
be
placed
underground
and
then
the
next
sentence
is
the
applicant
is
requesting
a
waiver
of
the
requirement
to
underground
existing
overhead
utilities
along
the
frontage
of
lot
three
on
skyline
drive.
G
Thank
you
for
your
question,
commissioner
bus.
The
we
are
waiving
the
requirement
to
underground
the
existing
utilities
running
along
skyline
drive.
However,
all
newly
I'm
sorry,
all
new
utilities
will
be
placed
underground.
F
Copy
that,
okay,
that
makes
more
sense
to
me,
so
I
just
wasn't
following
that.
The
other
question
I
had
is
so
the
two
lots
is
currently
set
up
at
64
and
65.
F
on
the
attachment
number
two,
the
location
map.
It
shows
the
canal
ridge
ave
splitting
into
two.
When
I
was
out
at
the
out
at
the
site,
I
don't
see
an
existing
road
there,
a
dirt
road
anything
was
that
a
road
that
was
intended
to
be
built.
It
never
was.
F
G
G
It's
called
it's
part
of
the
track
when
it
was
when
it
was
approved
back
in
the
1930s,
so
that
is
there's
a
drainage.
G
F
All
right,
the
other
question
I
have
is:
we
did
approve
a
storage
facility-
that's
directly,
I
guess,
to
the
north
of
this
site,
and
I
was
wondering
how
their
grading,
as
well
as
the
grading
that
we're
going
to
be
approving
on
this
project
will
impact
drainage,
full
disclosure.
F
When
I
was
out
of
the
site,
I
spoke
to
one
of
the
neighbors
who's
got
an
existing
home
there,
john
condon,
and
I
asked
him
if
what
he
knew
about
the
project
and
he
said
that
he
had
not
been
reached
out
to
you
by
anybody
regarding
it.
I
didn't
do
a
measurement,
I'm
not
sure
if
he's
500
feet
away
or
not,
but
just
full
disclosure.
I
did
speak
to
that
gentleman,
but
my
so
my
question
is:
is
how
is
this
going
to
impact
the
drainage
in
that
area?
G
A
G
No
written
objection,
I
received
a
phone
message
indicating
that
the
city
should
not
be
approving
encroachment
into
the
25
or
greater
slope,
but
when
I
reach
out
to
the
to
the
individual,
I
encourage
him
to
send
us
an
email
or
a
letter
of
opposition,
but
I
have
not
received
one.
A
G
A
We
you
would
mention
the
the
storage
facility,
just
as
a
general
question.
Is
there
a
way
to
make
sure
that
the
dirt
hauling
is
not
going
to
be
concurrent
with
those
two
projects?
At
the
same
time?
Is
there
some
way
of
scheduling
those
things
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
done
at
the
same
time,
so
we
don't
have
duplicate,
duplicity
of
dirt
hauling.
At
the
same
time,
you.
G
A
Again,
just
trying
to
see
if
there's
ways
to
minimize
the
effect
on
neighbors,
to
the
extent
that
there
would
be
that
kind
of
issue
the
the
word
I
know
the
the
applicant
which
we'll
get
to
in
a
second
owns
all
of
the
properties
at
this
point.
So
an
easement
with
regard
to
the
road
isn't
necessarily
applicable
at
the
moment,
because
you
can
have
an
easement
against
yourself,
but
at
some
point,
if
they
do
sell,
is
there
any
thought
with
regard
to?
Because
the
road
goes
up
lot
three,
but
then
is
on
the
other
lots?
G
A
Okay,
because
there's
all
those
things
that
can
come
back
later
on,
I
think
that's
all
the
questions
I
had
any
other
commissioner
questions
at
the
moment
for
the
staff.
D
Thank
you
first
question:
is
this
parcel
within
a
protected
ridge
overlay.
G
No,
it's
not
it's.
The
protected
ridge
is
300
feet
away
from
the
from
the
nearest
ridgeline,
and
this
is
probably
about
50
to
100
feet
away
from
it.
D
D
And
then,
finally
regards
to
security
and
access
is
this
communicated.
G
And
may
I
just
make
a
quick
correction
here:
the
old
dump
road
is
not
a
designated
trail;
it
is
a
private
access
road.
That's
that
way
that
is
proposed
to
that's
supposed
to
provide
an
access
to
all
those
lots
on
the
at
the
top
of
the
hill
there.
Thank
you.
A
Okay
last
call
for
commissioner
questions
of
staff.
Before
we
go
to
the
applicant
hearing
nothing
further.
We
will
go
to
the
applicant,
we'll
have
15
minutes
and
I
think
it's,
mr
mrs
igletis.
I
can
pronounce
that
correctly.
D
Hi,
how
are
you
doing
good
go
ahead
for
thanks
for
having
me
tonight
and
thank
you
for
your
time,
commissioners.
D
I
am
dana
sieglitis,
the
applicant
and
I'm
gonna
give
my
wife
over
to
the
next
15
minutes.
Now,
that's
a
joke!.
D
D
I
don't
think
so.
I
think
we'll
will
did
a
very
good
job.
C
Sharon
mcmahon
go
ahead,
commissioner
mcmahon.
I
just
have
a
quick
question:
are
these
all
lots
houses
to
be
sold
or
are
you
planning
on
living
in
one
of
them.
D
That's
kind
of
up
to
debate
I'd
like
to
live
in
one,
so
that
would
be
one
of
the
considerations.
The
other
would
be
selling
them,
but
the
the
thought
that
we
kicked
around
would
be
my
son
and
one
with
his
family,
a
daughter
and
another,
and
us
would
be
in
the
third.
We
sell
two.
B
Thank
you
and
thank
you,
mr
cletus,
for
working
with
city
staff
on
this.
I
just
have
one
question
which
is:
do
you
have
an
estimate
of
approximately
how
long
you
think
the
entire
project's
construction
would
take
from
start
to
finish.
F
I
just
have
one
question,
mr
elitist.
I
I
mentioned
earlier.
I
ran
into
one
of
the
neighbors
and
he
mentioned
that
he
hadn't
spoken
to
anybody
regarding
the
project.
Did
you.
B
Do
any
outreach.
D
No
sir
other
than
other
than
in
the
past,
I've
run
across
some
at
the
planning
commission
meetings.
You
know
if
I
ran
across
a
neighbor,
we
discussed,
you
know
things,
but
I'm
not
sure
which
neighbors
we
talked
to,
but
I
was
there,
I
think,
for
two
of
the
different
commission
hearings.
One
was
for
the
neighbor
next
to
us
a
residential
lot,
and
then
I
was
at
one
for
the
storage
complex.
F
Oh
perfect,
I
have
a
follow-up
question
then,
regarding
the
storage
facility,
obviously
you're
comfortable
with
everything
that
we
did
there,
and
and
has
that
impacted
your
plans
whatsoever
on
this
on
on
how
you're
going
to
use
these
lots.
A
Not
hearing
I'll
just
ask
one
that
I
usually
ask
of
most
applicants.
You've
read
the
package
and
you're
in
agreement
with
all
the
terms
and
conditions,
as
indicated
in
the
materials.
A
G
No
follow-up
from
staff.
Thank
you.
F
This
is
commissioner
boss.
Checking
in
there's
no
public
comments.
There
are
no
public
comments.
All
right
copy
that
sounds
like
silence
is
consent.
Then
it
looks
like
all
the
ducks
in
a
row
all
the
questions
that
I
had
were
answered,
so
I'm
terrified
to
do
it,
but
I
would
like
to
go
ahead
and
let
me
see
if
I
can
get
all
these
numbers
straight
to
move
to
pass
this.
F
So,
based
on
staff
evaluation,
I
want
to
move
that
we
agreed
to
approve
ppd
2017-70335
ppd,
2017-70336,
ppd
2017-70337.
D
Yes,
I
I
second
commissioner
buss's
comments.
I
appreciate
applicant
mr
elitis
for
his
project
and
reducing
impacts
to
the
hillside.
I
thought
this
is
a
well-designed
project
and
we
look
forward
to
this
development
in
the
city.
Thank
you.
C
C
I
just
wanted
to
echo
that
it
looked
like
the
applicant
and
the
staff
has
done
a
good
job
in
minimizing
the
effect
on
the
slopes
and
creating
a
project
that
will
work
really
well.
B
I
do
I
I
echo
the
comments
that
have
been
made
so
far.
I'm
glad
that
the
grading
is
minimal.
I
I
strongly
would
prefer
to
see
the
lines
being
undergrounded.
I
understand
why
they're
not-
and
I
learned
something
tonight
from
mr
free
about
that
the
city
is
moving
ahead
in
several
places
with
undergrounding
of
lines.
I
hope
that
will
happen
here.
B
I
don't
consider
that
a
showstopper,
but
I
would
like
to
see
that
happen
here
and
in
as
many
places
as
possible
in
the
future,
but
with
regard
to
this
project,
it
seems
very
well
done
and
completely
in
compliance
with
city
code,
except
for
the
waivers
we're
granting
tonight.
So
I
will
support
this.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
commissioner
newman
I
I
will
add
my
final
two
cents
and
that
it
was
great
to
see
that
the
staff
and
the
applicant
work
so
close
together
to
get
all
of
the
issues
done,
making
it
very
easy
for
us
to
kind
of
go
through.
I
mean
there's
some
issues
that
obviously
are
concerned,
but
I'm
very
appreciative
of
the
job
that
staff
and
the
applicant
did
in
terms
of
making
sure
all
the
things
were
crossed
off
and
things
were
checked
off.
So
I
will
support
it
as
well.
D
A
A
And
that
is
approved
any
aggrieved
party
who
wishes
to
appeal
the
planning
commission's
decision
may
do
so
by
filing
an
appeal
with
the
community
development
department
within
10
days.
B
Well
I'll
speak,
commissioner.
Newman
here
go.
B
B
Perhaps
the
darkest
phase
of
this
pandemic
right
now
and
I'll
leave
it
to
commissioner
lansin
to
speak,
as
he
often
eloquently
does
about
the
need
for
us
all
to
take
to
take
care,
but
I
didn't
want
the
see
the
year
out
without
without
commending
the
staff
for
all
the
good
work
it's
been
doing,
despite
everything
that's
going
on.
So
thank
you
for
that.
A
A
Los
cerebelus
is
overwhelmed.
They
have
no
further
beds
for
icus,
I
don't
think
they're
even
taking
new
people
new
patients
now,
unless
it's
cardiac
arrest.
So
again,
politics
aside
religion,
aside,
everything
aside
follow
the
rules
stay
home.
If
you
can
do
everything
you
can
so
we
can
get
through
this
port,
take
the
vaccine
and
hopefully
get
back
to
our
lives.
E
Thank
you,
chair
lansin.
We
do
not
have
any
follow-up
items,
announcements
or
upcoming
issues.
We
do
have
two
meetings
scheduled
for
january
11th
and
january
25th.
Each
of
those
meeting
dates
have
an
item
scheduled
currently.
As
mentioned
earlier,
the
starbucks
has
moved
to
the
january
11th
meeting.
We
have
a
municipal
code
amendment
scheduled
for
january
25th
that
it
involves
evaluation
of
objective
standards
as
prescribed
by
state
legislation,
so
I'll
be
coming
forward
to
the
planning
commission
for
recommendation
to
our
city
council,
and
that
is
all
I
have.
A
So
with
that
we'll
adjourn
this
meeting
and
see
you
on
january,
11th,
goodnight
thousand
oaks.