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Thousand Oaks Planning Commission Meeting - 12/5/22
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Hearing
having
been
advertised
as
required
by
law,
is
open
to
consider
agenda
item
7A,
Municipal
Code,
Amendment
MCA
2020-70180
to
consider
amending
article
21
of
chapter
4
of
Title
IX
permitted
use
Matrix
residential
zones
to
allow
a
columbarium
as
an
ancillary
use
to
a
permitted
religious
facility
subject
to
approval
of
a
special
use.
Permit
the
this
project.
This
project
qualifies
as
exempt
from
the
California
Environmental
Quality
act.
Sqa
guidelines
under
Section
15061b3
Common
Sense
exemption
located
city-wide.
The
applicant
is
Holy
Trinity,
Lutheran
Church.
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G
Chair
Newman
and
members
of
the
Planning
Commission
the
case
before
you
tonight
is
a
request
to
find
that
the
municipal
code
amendment
is
exempt
from
the
California
Environmental
Quality
act
guidelines
under
Section,
15061b3,
Common
Sense
exemption,
and
to
recommend
that
the
city
council
amends
Thousand,
Oaks,
Municipal,
Code,
Title,
IX,
chapter
4,
Article,
2
definitions
to
add
columbarium
and
article
21
permitted
use
Matrix
residential
zones
to
allow
columbarium
as
an
ancillary
use,
to
a
permitted
religious
facility
subject
to
conditions
and
approval
of
a
special
use.
Permit.
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In
September
1964,
the
community
voted
to
incorporate
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks
from
an
unincorporated
County
of
Ventura
area.
In
October,
1964
city
council
adopted
the
Ventura
County
ordinance
code
as
a
temporary
interim
zoning
ordinance
and
in
April
2011
city
council
adopted
an
ordinance
amending
sections
of
the
municipal
code,
including
Title
IX,
Planning
and
Zoning.
Regarding
the
findings
of
approval
of
a
special
use.
Permit.
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34
of
them
are
located
within
residential
zones
and
the
remaining
10
within
the
city's
limits
are
located
in
commercial,
industrial
and
public
or
institutional
zones.
The
city's
current
regulations
for
places
of
worship
or
religious
facilities
are
contained
in
the
residential
Zone's
permitted
use.
Matrix
of
the
Thousand
Oaks
Municipal
Code,
section
9-4
0.2104
under
institutional
and
Civic
uses.
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Columbarium
structures
shall
be
accessory
to
a
permitted
religious
facility
and
shall
be
located
behind
the
main
religious
facility
building
with
a
minimum
setback
of
100
feet
from
the
property
line,
and
they
shall
not
exceed
600
square
feet
and
they
should
not
exceed
15
feet
in
height
and
the
remains
kept
within
the
columbarium
structures
are
required
to
be
transferred
to
another
off-site
facility.
If
the
religious
facility
ceases
its
operations.
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Sql
applies
only
to
projects
which
have
the
potential
of
causing
a
significant
effect
on
the
environment,
where
it
can
be
seen
with
a
certainty
that
there
are
no
possibility
that
the
activity
in
question
may
have
a
significant
effect
on
the
environment.
The
activity
is
not
subject
to
sequa
proposed
MCA.
The
proposed
MCA
will
restrict
the
construction
of
a
new
column,
barium
ancillary
to
a
religious
facility,
subject
to
a
future
discretionary
permit
entitlement
and
the
potential
impacts
related
to
operations
of
a
columbarium
use
would
be
I'm.
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If
approved,
the
applicant
will
file
a
special
use
permit
or
a
columbarium
as
an
ancillary
used
to
their
existing
religious
facility.
The
special
use
permit
application
will
be
evaluated
for
compliance
with
all
City
standards,
including
operations
and
any
proposed
site.
Improvements
and
I
do
have
one
correction
to
attachment
number
two
for
tonight's
agenda
packet
and
that
is
number
five
listed
under
Section
9-4.2106ff.
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So
the
applicant
is
the
church,
but
the
church
has
requested
a
municipal
code
amendment
that
does
impact
this
particular
section
would
apply
to
all
religious
institutions
throughout
the
city,
as
noted
in
the
staff
report
there,
if
this
is
approved
by
the
city
council,
ultimately
the
expectation
would
be
that
this
particular
Church
would
be
submitting
an
additional
sup
for
the
planet
commission's
future
consideration.
That's
that
project
is
not
before
you
today.
This
is
just
in
that
code.
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I
made
sure
Mr
here
just
to
clarify
also
when
this
application
first
came
in.
Typically,
we
bring
it
to
city
council
and
we
request
that
they
can
process
it
concurrently
many
times
the
applicant
does
take
that
risk
and
follows
up
with
a
permit
or
a
process
to
for
their
application
for
their
sup
concurrently
with
this
process,
with
the
risk
being
that,
if
the
ordinance
isn't
changed,
then
their
permit's
going
to
be
denied.
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Obviously,
right
in
this
particular
case,
the
applicant
decided
not
to
go
forward
with
the
actual
sup
part,
even
though
they
were
offered
by
city
council
to
give
them
that
option.
So
that's
why
it's
a
little
bit
it's
a
little
bit
different
because
typically
they
come
together,
but
in
this
case
they
did
not.
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Okay,
so
this
is
the
aerial
view
we
would
be
measuring
from
the
center
line
of
both
Avenida
De
Los
Arboles
and
the
side
street
on
the
other
side
of
the
religious
facility,
a
hundred
feet
per
side.
So
it
would
be
located
in
the
rear
of
the
property
behind
the
main
Church,
which
is
in
the
corner
of
the
two
streets.
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Well,
I
mean,
if
I'm
reading
it
based
on
what
the
so
no
closer
to
the
rear
and
side
property
lines
as
the
main
buildings.
So
if
the,
if
we're
going
to
call
that
most
northwesterly
building
as
the
main
setback,
then
the
area
that
is
currently
undeveloped,
that
is
to
the
southwest
of
that
building,
could
not
be
developed
because
of
that
would
that
building
to
the
north
East
would
be
the
furthest
setback.
If
we're
calling
that
a
main
building.
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Perhaps
the
the
solution
here
trying
to
get
with
the
intent,
our
deputy
director,
Dugan
I,
think
stated
correctly
that
the
intent
is
trying
to
not
have
these
columbarium
be
essentially
proud
of
the
building
itself,
so
retaining
the
first
portion
of
the
standards.
You
know
the
hundred
feet
back
from
property
along
along
the
street
Frontage
and
then
essentially,
what
I'm
hearing
the
at
least
two
members
of
the
Planning
Commission
question
is:
should
it
the
the
regular
side
and
rear
standards?
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K
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If
I
may
share,
maybe
the
solution,
then,
is:
if
this
body
were
to
move
this
project
forward
with
a
recommendation,
as
requested
by
staff
before
brings
it
to
city
council,
would
again
re
review
the
ordinance
and
see
if
there's
any
Clarity,
that
could
be
added
to
again
make
it
easier
for
the
reader
to
understand
what
the
purpose
is
and
what
the
requirements
are.
As
far
as
setbacks
does
that
make
sense
to
staff.
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B
B
If
any
of
this
is
wrong,
I
think
our
intent
is
to
be
a
hundred
feet
or
no,
no
less
than
100
feet,
north
of
arbolus,
no
less
than
100
feet,
west
of
Mount
clef
and
no
less
than
35
feet
off
the
rear
line
of
the
property
and
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
clear,
on
whether
it's
the
west
or
the
North
Boundary
as
the
rear.
But.
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B
B
B
Feet,
okay,
so
I
think
I
think
just
so.
There
are
four
numbers
there:
100
120
and
five
and
I
think
for
clarity's
sake,
I
think
there
there
can
be
no
confusion
if
the
amendment
enumerates
those
those
four
numbers
I
think
that
would
that
would
help
resolve
this,
so
that
that's
I
guess
a
comment,
not
a
question.
B
This
is
a
a
legal
document
saying
that
it's
been
passed
and
this
is
really
just
a
process
question
it's
been
passed
on
such
and
such
date
in
2022
and
signed
by
the
current
mayor,
and
since
my
understanding
is,
this
will
not
be
enacted
by
the
city
council
until
2023,
with
a
different
mayor
that
that
this
language
will
be
modified
at
that
time.
Is
that
is
that
correct.
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B
H
I'm
gonna
go
back
and
actually
ask
my
question.
Since
we
started
talking
about
footages
I
I
was
asking
because
I
I
don't
understand
why
we
have
100
foot
setback.
To
be
honest,
was
that
a
request
specifically
or
is
that
some
kind
of
a
decorum
thing
or
what?
What
is
what
is
this,
the
city's
interest
in
determining
where
they
place
it
on
their
property?
It's.
H
G
B
Fishers,
are
there
any
other
questions
of
Staff
before
we
go
to
our
applicant
okay,
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
call
up
our
applicant
Pastor,
Eric
Garner?
Sorry,
if
I
mispronounced
your
name,
we
ask
for
the
record
that
you
state
your
name
in
city
of
residence
and
you
have
up
to
15
minutes
good
evening,
good.
L
Evening
Commissioners,
thank
you
for
letting
me
be
here
tonight.
My
name
is
Eric
Gainer
I'm
a
resident
here
in
Thousand,
Oaks
California.
Just
briefly,
I
want
to
explain
kind
of
why
we're
asking
for
this?
Why
do
churches
do
columbariums
in
the
first
place?
I
realize
it's
kind
of
a
strange
word,
not
necessarily
something
everybody's
familiar
with,
so
you
might
think
about.
L
There'll
be
a
cemetery,
and
that
really
comes
out
of
our
faith
tradition
with
the
idea
that
faith
is
something
that
covers
a
person
from
Cradle
to
the
Grave
and
the
church
is
there
to
minister
to
people
from
their
baptism
to
their
burial.
So
that's
really
the
the
tradition
that
we're
coming
from
and
the
theology
might
say,
and
to
to
make
the
structure
on
our
property
having
the
resting
place
near
the
church.
Also
allows
members
to
visit
when
they
come
to
worship.
L
They
may
not
travel
very
often
to
be
a
cemetery
because
farther
away,
but
if
they're
coming
to
church,
they
can
stop
meditate
pray
with
their
loved
them
before
after
worship.
It's
a
very
convenient
location.
To
have
that
connection,
you
might
say
spiritually
and
again,
we
have
this
sense
in
our
tradition
that
we
are
connected
to.
We
call
the
communion
of
saints
and
what
that
means
is
there's
a
spiritual
tradition
of
those
who
come
before
us
and
those
will
come
after
us
so
again
having
a
location
of
a
resting
place
of
remains
next
to
a
faith.
L
Community
is
a
way
to
kind
of,
in
a
spiritual
sense.
Keep
that
connection
with
all
the
saints
who've
come
before
us
test,
some
of
the
the
religious
reasons
why
we
want
to
pursue
this
project
now.
Some
of
the
Practical
reasons
are
because
it
came
from
one
of
our
church
members.
We
were
at
a
church
meeting
and
there
was
a
time
at
the
end
of
our
congregational
meetings
for
people
to
bring
up
any
concerns.
L
They
might
have
similar
to
what
a
city
council
does
or
even
a
Planning
Commission
and
a
member
raised
their
hand
and
said:
hey.
Can
we
do
a
columbarium
and
we
were
like
well,
what's
the
columbarium,
so
they
began
to
explain
it
to
the
congregation
and
he
had
helped.
He
and
his
wife
had
helped
start
one
at
a
previous
Lutheran
Church.
They
were
in
North
Carolina
and
we're
very
interested
in
the
idea
of
having
their
resting
remains,
be
near
a
church
and
because
they're,
not
members
at
our
church.
L
That
person
unfortunately
has
since
passed
away
and
his
wife
was
very
disappointed
that
we
hadn't
yet
gotten
off
the
ground
with
the
project,
and
we
said
well,
the
city
isn't
zoned
for
that,
and
there's
a
lot
of
application
processes
that
goes
with
this.
We
can't
just
do
it
overnight
and
so
that's
kind
of
how
it
all
began
and
as
it
began
to
get
in
the
process
pre-covered,
we
actually
I
think
it
was
four
thousand
dollars.
L
She
was
going
through
files
and
trying
to
update
them
and
said:
are
you
still
interested
in
this,
and
so
we
again
did
a
kind
of
a
survey,
the
congregation
in
a
meeting
to
make
sure
there
was
still
interest
in
this,
and
there
was-
and
so
we
continue
to
pursue
it,
which
leads
us
now
to
this
point
in
time
where
we
actually
got
the
initial
approval
from
the
city
council
to
pursue
this
code.
Amendment
I
have
been
to
churches
in
Camarillo,
Episcopal
Church,
who
has
a
columbarium
actually
inside
their
church.
L
Building
I,
went
to
another
funeral
at
a
Lutheran
Church
in
Santa,
Maria
California,
and
they
have
a
a
landscaped
area
with
a
columbarium
which
is
very
similar
to
I.
Think
the
kind
we
would
like
to
pursue
it's
some
more
kind
of
almost
a
like
a
cylinder
type
shape
sort
of
like
a
large
pillar,
and
it
can
come
in
like
a
hexagonal
or
octagonal
kind
of
kind
of
shape,
with
lots
of
many
urns
ranging
from
it
can
be
anywhere
from
80
to
up
to
you
know
a
couple
hundred
depending
on
how
big
how
big
it
is.
L
So
there
are
many
Lutheran
churches
and
actually
Presbyterian
Catholic
churches
who
have
these
already
in
their
locations
across
the
U.S
and
here
in
California.
So
this
isn't
a
new
thing
for
churches
to
be
doing.
It's
just
new
for
us
here
in
Thousand,
Oaks
cremation
is
becoming
more
and
more
popular
in
the
ground.
Burial
is
very
expensive,
and
people
who
are
concerned
about
their
footprint
as
well
in
terms
of
the
environment
are
looking
motor
creation.
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L
But
we
also
have
seen
a
lot
of
interest
in
newer
members
who
come
to
us
from
all
different
places
around
the
U.S
who
have
come
to
Thousand
Oaks,
because
it's
a
beautiful
place
to
retire
and
to
live
in
your
last
days.
We
have
lots
of
connections
with
University
Village
and
the
reserve,
which
are
retirement
homes
near
our
congregation,
and
those
members
too
have
expressed
interest
in
this
because
they
might
not
have
they
maybe
have
moved
a
lot
for
their
work
for
different
reasons.
L
They
don't
have
those
long-term
ties
to
maybe
where
they
were
born
years
ago
and
we're
kind
of
the
last
place
where
they're
living
we're
the
last
Faith
Community
they're
connected
with
and
they're
very
interested
in
having
a
place
where
they
can
again
make
it
easy
for
their
beloved
ones
to
tell
them
look
I'm
buried
here
at
the
church.
I
was
a
member
there
before
I
passed
away
and
it's
a
very
easy
process
for
them
and
still
could
be
connected
to
a
faith
community.
L
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L
As
I
mentioned,
we're
working
with
a
company
out
of
Minnesota
who's
been
in
operation
since
1983,
it's
a
family-owned
company.
They
have
a
long
track
record
with
many
different
churches
and
cemeteries
across
the
U.S
and
including
churches
from
our
own
Lutheran
denomination,
and
one
of
the
things
that
appealed
to
us
about
their
particular
company
as
well
is
that
they
actually
have
an
option
to
do
a
prefabricated
models
which
makes
the
process
a
lot
easier.
We
were
talking
another
company
a
couple
years
back
and
they
were
saying
it
they
can
kind
of
give
you
Dimensions.
L
You
have
to
then
design
your
own
kind
of
you
know,
wall
type,
columbarium
and
that
would
involve
you
know,
maybe
hiring
an
architect
and
it'd
be
more
extensive
legwork
for
us
as
a
congregation.
So
this
particular
company
actually
has
a
prefabricated
kind
of
the
cylinder
type
models
that
I
was
talking
about,
and
that
was
more
appealing
to
us,
because
you
can
just
tell
them
here's
the
color.
We
like
here's,
the
design
we
like
they
make
the
whole
thing
in
the
factory
Minnesota
and
they
ship
it
on
a
semi
truck
over.
L
Here
we
have
to
rent
a
big
Crane
and
then
the
only
thing
we
have
to
do
then
is
prepare
the
slab
for
it.
So
we
do
intend
to
create
some
Landscaping
a
cement
slab
for
this,
probably
some
benches
I
could
show
you
real
quick
where
we're
hoping
to
put
it
if
it
meets
the
setback
requirements.
If
you
want
to
put
that
slide
back
up
real
quick.
B
L
B
H
B
L
L
L
B
L
So
is
this
location
right
here
between
these
two
buildings
So?
Currently,
we
have
something
there
called
our
Bishop's
Garden
in
honor
of
two
pastors
who
are
also
Bishops
in
our
denomination
and
there's
some
roses
and
things
that
are
already
there.
So
it
seemed
like
an
appropriate
place,
so
the
question
would
be
yeah
or
do
we
fit
this
requirement
coming
off
of
Mount
clef
or
not
right.
B
L
L
B
I
I,
thank
you
Pastor
for
forgiving
him
for
that
joke
anyway.
So
I'm,
looking
at
again
from
a
Planning
Commission
standpoint
in
terms
of
use
and
Disposal,
so
I
don't
mean
to
be
potentially
callous
in
terms
of
how
I
ask
this
but
I
know,
there's
a
part
of
this
where
the
event
the
church
no
longer
exists,
they
have
to
dispose
of
the
remains
to
the
extent
the
church
is
still
ongoing,
and
these
these
urns
these
cremated
remains,
are
put
in
the
wall.
I
L
L
A
synod
is
basically
like
a
district,
a
geographical
area,
and
so
our
Synod
office
is
located
in
Glendale
and
we've
talked
to
them
as
a
part
of
this
process,
and
they
have
actually
an
agreement
with
an
Episcopal
domination
as
well,
because
they
also
have
such
structures
and
columbines
at
their
churches
that,
in
a
course
of
something
happened,
the
sin
of
them
would
take
the
remains
of
responsible
for
bringing
them
to
a
new
location.
Okay,.
I
So,
just
just
to
Clarity
so
to
your
understanding
and
again
I'm,
not
asking
you
about
your
specific
application,
because
it's
not
here
but
typically
there's
a
one-time
upfront
fee
that
that
those
cremated
remains
are
put
there
and
whether
or
not
the
person
still
belongs
to
the
church
or
leaves
town
or
whatever
those
stay
there.
Oh
correct!
Yes,
okay!
So
it's
not
based
upon
a
monthly
fee
or
something!
Oh.
A
L
I
To
essentially
a
cemetery
plot,
except
you
would
be
getting
exactly
correct
and
I
I,
think
and
I'll
when
we
go
back
to
staff.
The
area
that
you
were
noting
seemed
to
be
somewhat
within
that
hundred
feet
area
that
the
code
was
specifically,
and
my
understanding
also
is
we're
trying
to
set
the
law
as
to
what
would
apply
to
everybody,
not
just
your
specific
application,
which
I
know
is
a
little
bit
confusing.
I
B
H
B
B
There
are
setbacks
given
for
every
type
of
zoning,
including
including
for
places
of
worship
in
residential
areas,
and
those
setbacks
are
100
feet
if
that
stays
and
if,
as
we
just
agreed,
there
should
be
something
explicitly
saying
100
feet
in
in
this
amendment,
then
I
agree
that
it
it
appears
on
I,
don't
have
a
tape
role,
but
it
appears
that
the
location
you
were
pointing
to
is
is
less
than
100
feet
from
Mount
clef.
So
I
guess
the
question
on
that
is:
are
there
a
two-part
question?
Are
there
alternative
locations
on
site?
B
J
L
J
With
staff
I
think
we're
going
to
try
to
present
some
new
language
to
you
tonight.
I
think
that
will
solve
the
issue
for
Mr
bus's
concern
and
also
for
the
concern
that
you
just
raised
with
the
applicant
I.
Think
I
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
staff,
and
let
them
do
that,
but
initially
I
think
that
the
plan
was.
We
did
not
want
it
any
closer
to
the
frontage
than
what
the
main
church
was,
and
so
we
wanted
this
to
be
behind
the
facade
of
the
initial.
J
You
know
Frontage
of
the
church
right
or
the
house
of
worship.
So
that's
the
the
main
goal
is
to
have
that
happen,
and
so,
when
we
got
into
the
numbers,
of
course
we're
using
it
from
standards
and
So
based
on
the
questions
that
we
received
tonight,
I
think
we're
going
to
come
up
with
a
some
language
that
maybe
we
should
present
now
just
so
they
have
it
in
their
in
their
minds
as
we
present
and
ask
questions
to
the
applicant,
if
you
could
staff
one
of
you.
G
Yes,
with
your
suggestions,
the
First
Development
standard
should
read
or
would
be
very
similar
to
columbarium
structures
shall
be
accessory
to
a
permitted
religious
facility
and
shall
be
located
behind
the
main
religious
facility
buildings
and
no
closer
to
the
rear
and
side
property
lines
as
allowed
in
the
underlying
Zone
District.
So
we
would
get
rid
of
that.
100
Center
Line.
J
Foreign
I
think
that
I
think
that
answers
all
council
members
I
mean
plenty
Commissioners
questions
tonight
regarding
the
confusion,
obviously,
and
also
just
so,
you
have
clarity
from
a
person
who's
reading
this
any
new
applicant
comes
in
and
reads
this
and
says:
okay
now,
I
know
pretty
simplified,
but
we
understand
what
those
are.
As
far
as
what
the
underlying
Zone
District
says,
that's
very
simple,
typically,
and
so
we
get
that
answer
to
them
fairly
quickly,
so
they
got
an
idea
of
I.
Now
understand
work
in
place
this.
B
B
So
very
good,
and
actually,
while
we
have
you
I
I,
should
ask
this-
is
a
standard
part
of
hearings
like
this
again
there's
not
a
specific
hearing
before
us
tonight,
but
but
my
understanding
and
I
concur
with
commissioner
McMahon
that
the
wording
as
proposed
that
this
change
would
would
handle
the
setback
issues
I
think
they
would
accommodate
your
your
intent
as
well.
Would
you
would
you
agree
with
that
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
locating
the
columbarium,
where
you're
looking
to.
L
Yeah
I
think
so
I
need
to
hear
it
again
and
defer
to
your
wisdom
on
some
other
technical,
but
yeah
yeah
I
mean
I
trusted
that
language
would
and
again
there
are
other
locations.
We
could
entertain.
That
was
just
sort
of
our
first,
our
top
right
location.
So
if
we
could
work
it
out,
that
would
be
very
much
appreciated.
Okay,
very
good
again!
Thank
you.
You're
welcome,
appreciate
it.
You
might
need
it
here
anymore
tonight
or
should
I
sneak
out
or
it's
okay,
you're.
B
K
B
H
Commissioner
Buzz
all
right,
I
I,
will
lead
off
with
the
I
propose
that
we
adopt
the
resolution
that
finds
this
Municipal
Code
amendment
is
exempt
from
the
position
provisions
of
the
California
environmental
equality
act
pursuant
to
government
section
code
15061b3
and
approved
the
amendments
to
the
municipal
code,
as
described
in
attachment
to
as
edited
during
this
meeting.
Sufficient
and
I
just
wanted
to
add
in
I've,
always
been
a
big
fan
of
your
church.
B
H
B
F
B
I
want
to
also
recognize
Holy
Trinity
for
for
the
very
important
work
your
your
church
does
in
terms
of
feeding
our
homeless
in
cooperation
with
with
many
other
houses
of
worship
and
many
many
volunteers
and
social
social
service
agencies.
But
I
know
it's
not
before
us
tonight,
but
but
I
want
to
say
how
much
I
appreciate
the
vital
service
you
provide
for
some
of
our
less
fortunate
neighbors.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
with
that
I
will
ask
the
secretary
to
prepare
us
for
a
vote.
B
B
B
I
Thank
you,
chair,
Newman
I,
just
want
to
thank
all
of
those
that
ran
for
city
council,
including
our
very
own
Vice,
chair,
McMahon.
Excuse
me,
it's
obviously
a
huge
sacrifice
to
give
for
your
city
and
thank
you
and
I
want
to
congratulate
chair
Newman
for
at
this
point,
looking
like
he's
going
to
end
up
switching
diocese,
it's
going
to
be
weird,
not
having
you
around.
To
be
honest
with
you.
B
Well,
I'll
just
add
that
that
I
will
miss
coming
here.
Every
couple
of
Mondays
and
and
I
think
planning
is
such
an
important
part
of
of
land
use
is
such
an
important
part
of
what
we
do
for
all
of
our
residents
and
I
hope,
I
hope
going
forward
that
that
long
tradition
of
excellent
and
very
competent
staff
and
planning
and
excellent
and
competent
stewardship
for
all
residents
on
Commissioners
parts
will
continue.
Thank
you
any
other
comments
very
good.
Well,
thank
you
all
the
meeting
this
meeting.