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Thousand Oaks Planning Commission Meeting 3/27/23
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Thank
you
and
okay.
We
have
public
speaker
cards,
but
therefore
they
okay,
so
we
don't
have
any
public
comments
at
this
time.
So
I
won't
be
reading
that
next
we
have
the
consent
calendar
with
the
minutes
of
the
February
27
2023
Planning
Commission
meeting.
Are
there
any
comments?
Do
any
of
the
fellow
commissioners
of
any
comments,
or
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes.
B
D
With
requests
for
two
incentives
and
four
waivers
is
allowed
by
the
state
density
bonus
law,
as
well
as
the
removal
of
one
Coast
Live
Oak
quercus
agrifolia
and
three
California
Sycamore
matanus
race,
mosa,
trees,
encroachment
into
the
protected
zone
of
24
protected
trees
and
to
approve
the
development
agreement
to
specify
public
and
private
private
benefits
and
responsibilities
related
to
The
Proposal
located
at
88,
Long
Court.
The
applicant
is
sjg
long
investment.
G
G
The
subject
lot
is
or
subject:
property
is
a
1.8
acre
lot,
Bound
by
Moody
Court
to
the
East
and
Long
Court
to
the
West
currently
developed
with
an
existing
approximately
twenty
thousand
square
foot
27
foot
tall
commercial
office
development
approved
in
March
1978.,
the
Topography
of
the
site
has
a
gradual
grade
transition
resulting
in
roughly
14
a
14
foot
rise
in
elevation
between
the
Northern
or
the
lower
surface
parking
lot
and
the
southern
or
upper
surface
parking
lot.
The
site
is
currently
landscaped
with
mature
foliage
in
trees,
both
protected
and
non-protected.
G
The
property
is
within
the
boundary
of
specific
plan.
20.,
the
Thousand
Oaks
Boulevard
specific
plan
and
the
land
use
element
of
the
general
plan
designates
the
property
as
commercial,
slash,
residential
the
site
is
adjacent
to
existing
commercial
uses,
including
offices
to
the
South
Medical
Offices
to
the
west,
and
an
assisted
living
facility
to
the
east.
G
A
vacant
parcel
is
located
immediately
adjacent
to
the
North
in
what
kind
of
looks
like
a
cutout,
a
preschool,
a
hair
salon
and
the
Heritage
Park
demonstration
garden
operate
in
between
the
subject:
property
and
Thousand
Oaks
Boulevard,
which
is
approximately
270
feet
to
the
north.
A
commercial
office
is
located
in
between
the
subject
property
and
the
Ventura
freeway,
which
is
about
200
feet,
south
of
the
property.
G
G
The
two
fronted
streets
seen
here,
Moody
and
long
courts
are
both
cul-de-sacs
and
have
no
through
connection.
Each
street
is
improved
with
a
five
foot
wide
sidewalk,
except
along
the
vacant
lot
Frontage
on
Moody
court
that
provides
pedestrian
connectivity
to
and
from
the
boulevard
on,
April
27
2021,
a
residential
capacity
allocation
or
RCA,
and
an
initiation
of
a
general
plan.
Amendment
for
the
project
were
authorized
by
city
council
for
allocation
of
the
residential
portions
of
the
property
and
allowed
the
pre-screen
and
formal
submittal
processes
to
commence
on
October
28
2021.
G
The
project
proposes
the
construction
of
73,
a
73
unit,
Podium
apartment
building.
The
apartment
building
is
proposed
with
three
stories
above
a
basement
parking
garage
and
will
be
an
average
height
of
34
feet
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
In
a
minute.
The
site
topography
informs
the
design
of
the
architect
of
the
building,
as
the
structure
appears
to
notch
into
that
transitioning
upward
slope,
which
gets
higher
as
it
moves
from
the
Thousand
Oaks
Boulevard
to
the
freeway.
G
The
Project's
architectural
design
is
a
blend
of
mid-century,
modern
and
contemporary
Styles.
I
would
also
like
to
note
that
the
applicant
team
did
work
with
staff
to
incorporate
feedback
and
recommendations
for
improved
design
and
upgraded
details
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
those
as
we
go
through.
G
To
talk
more
about
the
form
and
style,
the
exterior
walls
of
the
building
are
proposed
to
be
Earth,
Tone
colors,
primarily
consisting
of
Stucco
finishes.
Simulated
wood,
fiber
board
forms
event,
panels,
stone,
veneer
and
window
areas
with
dark
bronze
trim.
The
architectural
design
incorporates
articulation
and
detailing
throughout,
as
you
can
see
from
this
rendering,
looking
East
from
the
northwest
corner
so
standing
on
Long
Court,
looking
towards
Moody
court
at
the
Thousand
Oaks
Boulevard
Boulevard
end.
G
The
proposed
architectural
design
incorporates
the
design
print
guidelines
of
the
Thousand
Oaks
Municipal,
Code
and
sp20
by
including
direct
pedestrian
access
to
the
ground
floor
dwelling
units
wherever
possible
and
providing
a
variety
of
building
materials
and
types
Building,
Material
types
and
details.
As
you
can
see,
from
this
rendering
standing
on
Moody
Court
looking
towards
long
court
and
the
101
freeway.
G
Architecturally,
the
proposed
building
design,
scale,
materials
and
Landscaping
complement
the
existing
uses
in
the
area
as
well.
Residential
units
and
rooftop
decks
face
the
streets
on
either
side
with
surface
Lots,
providing
extended
setback,
areas
between
the
proposed
development
and
the
existing
adjacent
properties
right
next
door.
G
In
addition,
the
like
I
said
the
project
has
been
designed
to
be
sensitive
to
the
existing
topography
and
the
proximity
to
the
highway.
For
example,
protective
screening
of
rooftop
mounted
mechanical
equipment
has
been
integrated
into
the
building's
overall
design,
as
well
as
the
setback
to
the
building
from
the
freeway
has
been
preserved,
similar
to
the
existing
use
to
reduce
the
visual
impact
from
the
highway.
G
To
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
height,
specific
120
allows
buildings
up
to
three
stories
with
a
50
foot,
maximum
average
height.
The
majority
of
the
proposed
building
is
three
stories.
The
rest
is
lower
above
the
parking
garage,
the
average
height
of
the
structure
is
about
34
feet
and
the
maximum
height
of
the
building
is
50
feet
at
the
northern
facade.
Therefore,
the
building
height
does
comply
with
the
requirements
of
sb20.
The
graphic
here
shows
the
Subterranean
basement
level.
In
pink
housing
units
in
red
amenity
spaces
in
green
and
the
pool
area
in
blue.
G
The
property
lines
adjacent
to
the
other
Parcels
to
the
North
and
the
South
are
treated
as
interior
side
yards.
However,
as
the
proposed
project
fronts,
two
streets,
long
court
and
Moody
Court,
both
Street
frontages-
need
to
comply
with
the
sp20
requirement
that
the
third
story
is
an
average
of
of
10
feet
setback,
it's
a
10,
foot,
average
setback
and
they
do
comply
with
this
requirement.
G
The
proposed
project
also
meets
the
sp20
sidewalk
requirement
along
Moody
Court.
However,
the
applicant
is
requesting
a
waiver
of
the
requirement
to
provide
that
sidewalk
extended
sidewalk
along
long
court,
so
that
the
existing
five
foot
sidewalk
is
retained.
But
not
expanded
staff
recommends
approval
of
this
request
as
Allowed
by
the
municipal
code
as
the
three
foot
addition
to
the
existing
five
foot,
sidewalk
would
increase
the
concrete
hardscaped
and
reduce
the
landscape
buffer
being
proposed
and
provided.
G
And
here's
a
table
outlining
all
of
the
required
setbacks
that
apply
to
this
property,
with
the
acceptance
of
the
waiver
just
described
the
project
meets
all
of
the
setbacks
required
by
a
specific
plan
20..
In
addition
per
the
municipal
code
below
grade
parking
structures
which
is
what's
proposed
here,
require
increased
setbacks
for
the
front,
rear
and
side
yards.
G
The
applicant
is
requesting
that
the
five
foot
increased
setbacks
for
the
front
and
the
rear
yards
be
waived
as
Allowed
by
the
municipal
code
staff
supports
this
waiver
request
as
similar
increased
setbacks
are
not
required
for
residential
projects
with
above
ground
parking
structures
and
a
decreased
setback
or
waving
of
this.
Increased
setback
requirement
allows
for
more
direct
pedestrian
access
to
the
ground
floor
units,
which
was
something
we
worked
closely
with
the
applicant
on.
G
Staying
on
the
subject
of
waivers,
the
applicant
is
proposing
a
trash
enclosure
within
the
Northwest
and
Southeast
corners
of
the
parking
structure
which
you
can
see
here
highlighted
very
minimally
per
the
municipal
code.
No
loading
or
unloading
activities,
attraction
closures
or
recycling
bins
are
permitted
within
a
parking
structure.
G
To
get
into
the
the
breakdown
of
the
unit
mix
proposed,
as
mentioned
previously,
the
project
proposes
a
total
of
73
units.
This
breaks
down
as
31
one
bedroom
units
and
42
two-bedroom
units,
including
three
live
work
units
six
units
of
the
total
73
will
be
designated
as
affordable
for
households
in
the
very
low
income
category.
I'll
talk
more
about
that
in
a
second.
G
The
live
work
units
located
at
the
northwest
corner
of
the
site,
which
you
can
see
here
kind
of
in
a
row
in
the
leftmost
part
of
the
image,
are
intended
to
accommodate
low
intensity
commercial
operations.
These
two-story
units
function
similarly
to
a
home-based
business
which
is
permitted
in
any
residential
area
and
are
ideal
for
small
startup
businesses
that
require
little
work
area
and
create
a
few
customer
trips,
they're
really
like
residential
uses
where
at
home
work
is
allowed.
G
G
In
addition
to
that,
the
applicant
per
the
development
agreement,
as
I
mentioned
previously,
has
agreed
to
provide
two
more
affordable
income
units
to
moderate
income
families
or
people
for
an
overall
total
of
eight
affordable
units.
Two
above
the
minimum
amount
to
qualify
for
that
11
density
bonus
in
addition
per
state
density
bonus
law
based
on
the
percentage
of
very
low
income
units
offered.
The
applicant
is
also
entitled
to
two
incentives
or
concessions
for
this
project.
G
G
So
that's
not
part
of
their
concession
request
and
the
other
incentive
or
concession
requested
is
an
increase
from
35
percent.
Maximum
building
coverage
to
54
percent
applicant
team
is
also
requesting
four
waivers
which
have
already
described
previously.
It
is
worth
noting
as
well
that
they
are
not
requesting
the
reduced
parking
rate
Allowed
by
the
state
density,
bonus
law.
G
The
proposed
project
includes
pedestrian
walkways
and
a
parklet
open
to
Residents
and
the
public
which
connect
to
the
existing
sidewalks
on
long
and
Moody
courts.
There
are
several
pedestrian
entrances
to
the
building
provided,
including
resident
only
pedestrian
access
doors
at
the
Northern
end
of
both
Street
facing
facades
and
the
main
lobby
entrance
entrance
accessed
from
the
upper
or
the
southern
surface
lot
off
of
Long
Court.
G
Specific
plan
20
requires
one
and
a
quarter
parking
spaces
per
one
bedroom
unit
and
one
and
three
quarters
parking
spaces
per
unit
with
two
or
more
bedrooms.
Guest
parking
is
not
required
within
specific
plan
20..
Therefore,
a
scene
in
the
table
pictured
here
with
31
one
bedroom
units
and
42
units
with
two
bedrooms.
The
project
must
provide
a
minimum
of
113
parking
spaces.
The
applicant
is
proposing
13
more
spaces
than
it
required
or
126.
G
Landscaping
is
provided
throughout
the
Open
Spaces
landscape
buffers
and
along
the
walkways
within
the
site.
If
the
project
is
approved,
a
formal
landscape
plan
will
be
required
and
the
technical
evaluation
of
that
plan
will
be
provided
through
a
landscape
plan
check
process
to
ensure
compliance
with
the
city's
landscape
and
irrigation
standards.
The
project
provides
landscape
buffers
around
the
majority
of
both
the
North
and
South
surface
parking
areas
and
exceeds
the
required
amount
of
landscaping
required.
G
For
sp23
of
the
building
footprint
must
be
dedicated
to
public
open
space.
The
project
exceeds
the
support
requirement
by
more
than
350
percent,
providing
four
thousand
five
hundred
square
feet
of
public
Green,
Space
playground
and
walking
area
in
the
northeast
corner
of
the
property
I
refer
to
to
in
the
staff
report
as
the
parklet
at
times,
and
seen
here
with
the
very
large
oak
tree
and
if
you've
been
to
visit
the
site.
This
is
the
oak
tree
that
is
behind
the
retaining
wall
existing
on
the
site.
G
The
project
includes
several
common
on-site,
Gathering
and
recreational
spaces
in
order
to
preserve
three
of
the
protected
oak
trees
on
site.
As
I
said,
the
Northeast
common
open
space
is
designed
as
a
parklet
open
to
the
residents
and
the
public
and
includes
700
square
foot.
Children's
play
area
as
well.
G
G
30
protected
trees
are
located
on
and
near
the
site
per
the
applicant's
tree
report,
one
Coast
Live
Oak
and
three
California
signatures
are
proposed
to
be
removed
and
24
protected.
Trees
will
be
encroached
upon
with
no
impact
to
the
other.
Two
protected
trees
identified
each
protected
tree
to
be
removed
must
be
replaced
with
three
trees
of
the
same
species.
The
three
required
replacement,
Coast
live
oak
trees
and
six
of
the
required
replacement.
Sycamore
trees
are
to
be
planted
on
site
per
the
proposed
landscape
plan.
G
A
city
oak
tree
consultant
reviewed
the
applicants
tree
report
and
visited
the
site.
The
consultant
concluded
that,
with
the
inclusion
of
the
conditions
in
the
suggested
resolution,
including
appropriate
work
methods
and
monitoring
that
the
proposed
encroachments
will
not
have
a
negative
effect
on
the
health
of
the
trees,
the
tree
impacts
are
necessary
to
allow
site
preparation
and
Grading
activities
for
the
proposed
residences
and
Associated
site
improvements.
G
A
development
agreement
is
required
for
approval
of
projects
that
receive
allocation
of
measure
e
units.
This
agreement
is
a
contract
between
the
property
owner
and
the
city
to
ensure
specific
deliverables
and
site
expectations
are
in
place
to
ensure
public
benefit,
such
as
the
inclusion
of
affordable
units
and
site
improvements.
The
applicant's
representative
and
representatives
and
staff
have
worked
together
to
prepare
this
agreement
in
compliance
with
the
municipal
code
that
identifies
how
that
processes
to
take
place.
G
We
did
have
some
requests
from
the
applicant
come
in
this
afternoon
to
revise
a
couple
of
the
conditions
included
in
the
resolution
and
I'll
be
incorporating
that
into
our
recommendation,
which
I'll
leave
up
at
the
end
of
this
presentation.
One
is
to
delete
condition,
number
four,
which
requires
the
inclusionary
housing
fee.
That
is
a
standard
condition
normally
required,
really
doesn't
apply
to
this
project
because
they
are
providing
the
affordable
housing
units.
So
it's
to
to
keep
it
in.
G
B
H
You
chair
and
thank
you
Miss
Kendall,
that
is
a
very
detailed
report
and
I
can
tell
that
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
took
place,
including
within
apparently
it
sounds
like
the
last
few
hours.
That's
actually,
where
I
kind
of
want
to
start.
You
kind
of
went
through
those
a
little
fast,
while
I'm
sitting
there
trying
to
flip.
Can
you
can
you
kind
of
identify
those
three
changes
again
that
you
were?
You
were
talking
about,
I
think
the
first
one
was
paragraph
24
correct.
Yes,.
H
H
G
Right
there
is
an
inclusionary
housing
Steve,
please
cartoon
ephemeral.
There
is
an
inclusionary
housing
fee
on
the
books,
already
it's
set
at
zero,
which
is
why
we
include
this
condition
kind
of
normally,
but
it
wouldn't
apply
in
any
case
to
this
project
because
they're
providing
the
affordable
units.
This
is
why
it's
confusing
and
should.
H
Not
have
been,
of
course,
reading
something
that
we're
providing
a
fee.
That's
zero,
but
I
I
understand
it
has
to
be
included
as
part
of
the
process
so
but
that
wouldn't
apply
anymore
since
they're,
providing
the
numbers
correct
all
right.
So
the
second
condition
that
you
said
there's
going
to
be
changed
to
is
what.
G
G
Yes,
this
is
the
sidewalk
construction
condition
which
required
the
five
existing
five
foot
sidewalk
to
be
removed
and
replaced
with
an
eight
foot,
wide
sidewalk
per
City
standards
and
per
the
requested
waiver.
That's
only
going
to
apply
to
the
Moody
Court
Frontage,
whereas
the
Long
Court
Frontage,
the
additional
sidewalk
width
will
be
provided
via
an
easement,
and
so
the
the
language
is
just
clarified,
as
you
can
see
on
your
screens
to
make
that
the
difference
more
clear.
H
G
C
Lansing,
if
I
may,
when
we
were
discussing
this
project,
it
came
up
about
the
eight
foot
requirement,
so
typically
under
sp20.
If
the
sidewalk
is
off
the
boulevard,
of
course,
for
on
the
boulevard,
it's
a
different
width,
but
for
off
the
boulevard,
it's
eight
feet.
As
the
planner
mentioned.
We
they
voiced,
concern
and
also
the
way
that
the
project
was
designed
for
one
sidewalk
on
Moody
Court
make
sure
I
get
the
right
right,
one
that
it
was
they
wanted
to
keep
it
to
five
feet,
so
that
was
a
waiver
that
was
requested.
C
C
The
way
that
they're
designing
it
and
having
the
benefits
of
the
design
as
as
presented
made
sense,
and
so
what
we
decided
to
do
was
okay.
What
if
we
wanted
to
come
back
at
some
point
in
time
we
didn't
want
to.
We
want
to
preserve
that
today,
instead
of
waiting
in
the
future
and
asking
for
three
foot
easement
in
the
future.
Okay,
thank
you.
H
H
Okay,
so
just
the
one
that
obviously
we
have
a
speaker
card
as
well,
but
that's
that's
okay,
I
kind
of
want
to
clarify
something.
That's
obviously
a
little
bit.
We
talked
about
this
last
time
at
our
last
hearing
with
regard
to
the
private
open
space
issue
and
that
it
seems
to
be
a
common
issue.
This
is
a
little
unique
in
that.
It
sounds
like
from
the
materials
that
this
is
a
concession
that's
required
under
California
law,
as
opposed
to
something
that's
discretionary.
Is
that
true.
H
It
sounds
like
what
you're
saying,
to
the
extent
that
the
density
bonus
process
is
is
applicable
and
they've
satisfy
the
requirements.
This
concession
is
something
we
don't
really
have
discretion
to
say
no
about
correct,
so
those
two
things
are
basically
included.
It's
obviously
and
again,
I
think
we've
always
voiced
this.
It's
frustrating
because
it
seems
that's
a
common
thing
at
this
point,
and
maybe
city
council
needs
to
go
back
and
look
at
that,
but
it
sounds
like
this
is
something
we
don't
have
discretion
over
to
the
extent
they're
satisfying
the
density
bonus
issue.
G
H
I'll
only
ask
a
few
more
I
want
to
make
sure
he
has
a
chance.
We
should
do
a
three
questionable
I'm
just
kidding
just
kidding.
I
noticed
there
was
a
lot
of
freeway
noise
as
part
of
the
freeway.
That's
nearby
is
again
I.
Don't
know
construction
enough
to
know
whether
or
not
the
units
are
going
to
be
done
in
a
way
that
would
make
sure
that
that
was
not
going
to
be
a
problem
for
the
residents.
G
H
H
F
A
couple
questions
for
you
regarding
these
sidewalks,
so
there
is
a
severe
lack
of
continuity
on
both
Moody
and
long.
So
once
you
actually
get
closer
to
the
the
boulevard
there,
there
is
not
a
continuous
sidewalk
that
leads
you
to
that
intersection
in
essence.
So
I'm
curious
why
one
of
the
conditions
for
the
project
was
not
to
have
the
project
complete
the
sidewalk
that
is
currently
absent
on
Moody
chord
to
provide
that
continuity.
G
C
I
mean
I
can't
say
we
specifically
looked
at
that
issue
other
than
we
were
com
requiring
them
to
address
the
sidewalks
that
were
adjacent
to
their
property,
that
we
thought
that
had
as
a
Nexus
for
this
particular
project
and
then,
as
I
stated
earlier,
we
had
the
discussion
about
under
sp20,
there's
a
requirement
to
make
it
eight
feet
and
for
for
one
of
those
side,
one
of
the
sides
of
the
streets.
They
wanted
to
do
it
as
five
feet
and
as
we've
discussed,
that
was
something
that
we
agreed
to
do
as
part
of
the
negotiation.
C
F
Just
thinking
out
loud
here
since
we,
it
appears
from
the
project
plans
or
at
least
the
construction
plans,
as
well
as
the
Assessor's
map,
so
that
the
city
does
have
right-of-way
for
the
parcel
to
the
north
immediately
to
the
North
and
the
east
on
on
Moody
court
that
we
could
potentially
construct
sidewalk
there
within
the
city
right-of-way
and
then
can
potentially
condition
the
project
so
that
there
is
continuity.
I.
C
Would
have
to
see
if
Public
Works
could
answer
that
question
tonight.
I
will
say
this
that
we
did
talk
to
Public
Works
about
the
sidewalk
issue
as
part
of
the
as
part
of
the
negotiation,
to
ensure
that
there
would
be
a
possibility
that
an
easement
would
be
necessary,
or
at
least
it
would
be
beneficial
to
the
city
for
a
future
project,
so
I
in
that
sense,
I
think
it
was
something
that
was
looked
at
as
far
as
looking
at
this
broader
picture
for
this
look,
this
area
for
sidewalk
development,
later
on
or
in
the
future.
G
I'll
also
mentioned
that
the
the
vacant
property
has
had
an
active
case
on
it
throughout
the
life
span
of
this
project.
Before
you
this
evening,
they
would
have
improved,
of
course,
they're
on
sidewalk,
Frontage,
I'm,
not
sure
the
status
of
that
project
or
when
that
might
come
to
fruition.
But
that's
part
of
it,
too,
is
that
we
had
always
assumed
that
that
project
would
be
completing
their
portion
of
the
sidewalk.
F
Sure
yeah,
and
that
would
make
absolute
sense,
I
think
in
this
case,
though
it's
whoever
gets
to
it
first
and
and
if
this
project
does
actually
seems
to
it
seems
to
be
have
or
has
more
movement
to
it,
that
we
and
would
be
beneficial
to
the
project
itself.
So
from
that
standpoint
there
may
be
a
Nexus
there
to
require
it.
So
just
thinking
out
loud
also.
C
To
Ms
Kendall's
Point
She
Doesn't
Remind
me
that
there
was
another
project
right
adjacent
to
this
property
that
was
approved
by
Council.
As
far
as
a
pre-screening
to
allow
think
up
to
five
units
measure
e
units
were
were
allocated
for
that
it's
a
very
much
smaller
parcel,
that's
right,
adjacent
to
it!
So
maybe
that's
the
reason.
Why
makes.
F
F
I
did
have
a
question
about
parking.
I
understand
that
there
is
a
certain
number
based
on
the
specific
plan
or
sp20
does
allow
for
the
accounting
of
on-street
parking
spaces
for
the
parking
account
for
the
project
staff.
I'm
sure
is
aware
that
there
are
currently
parking
restrictions
on
both
Moody
and
Long
Court
restricting
parking
between
1am
and
5
a.m.
I
assume
those
restrictions
will
be
lifted
in
order
to
allow
that
parking
to
count
towards
the
project.
I
Hi
this
is
Mark
bueno
I'm,
an
associate
engineer
in
public
works
traffic.
To
answer
your
question,
commissioner,
adjacent
to
the
property,
there
would
be
an
adjustment
of
the
the
signage
for
the
parking
to
allow
that,
but
the
parking
along
the
the
other
frontages
would
remain
the
same.
That
could
be
another
discussion
we
could
have
with
the
the
neighborhood
area
to
address
that
as
well.
But
for
now
it
would
just
be
adjacent
to
the
the
project
site
would
would
be
adjusted
good.
F
Excellent,
actually,
this
question
is
probably
for
Mr
bustle.
Is
it
you
know
and
I'm
sure
I
understand
that
the
purpose
of
constructing
a
main
between
the
two
on
Moody
and
and
in
long
would
potentially
be
for
maintenance
or
at
least
continuity
or
redundancy
within
the
system?
But
is
it
normal
that
we
would
have
a
public
main
within
private
property.
J
Good
evening
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Brad
bustle,
I'm,
an
engineer
in
the
public
works
department.
Usually
whenever
we
have
an
opportunity
to
Loop
a
water
line,
we
do
that.
It's
it's
not
only
for
fireflow
purposes,
but
also
for
water
quality
purposes.
So
we
would
have
an
easement
through
there,
so
we
could
get
in
there
and
maintain
it,
but
it
would
improve
our
water
quality
to
have
that
Loop
through
there.
So.
F
And
then
I
just
had
one
other
question
with
regard
to
the
feed
deferrals,
so
the
developer
development
agreement
allows
them
to
defer
fees
to
a
certain
point
in
time.
Does
that
I
assume?
That
means
that
the
fees
paid
at
the
time
of
or
the
fees
in
effect
at
time
of
payment
would
be
paid?
Or
is
that
does
that
freeze
the
right.
C
So
this
was
definitely
a
negotiated
element
of
the
of
the
agreement
and
that
had
to
do
with
the
timing
of
paying
the
full
impact
fees
or
the
development
fees
for
traffic
fees.
For
example,
there
could
be
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
depending
on
the
project
and
so
what
they
requested
and
what
we
ultimately
are
presenting
to
you
and
to
the
city
council
is
a
request
to
defer
that
particular
payment
that
you
would
normally
do
right
away
to
24
up
to
30
months.
C
However,
they
would
pay
what
the
interest
would
be
in
that
in
that
time
period,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
can
capture
the
entries
that
we
would
have
gotten
from
that
timely
payment.
So
they
are
going
to
pay
that
interest
that
we
would
note
at
the
time
that
they're
they're
making
the
request
they
cannot
get
occupancy
for
the
project
until
the
impact
fees
are
paid.
C
K
Thank
you
again
excellent
report.
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
appreciate
all
the
questions
that
I
had
today.
Prior
to
this,
to
help
make
sure
I
understand
some
of
the
details.
I
have
some
questions
just
to
make
sure
they're
either
for
the
record
or
for
clarification
of
what
we're
doing
here
so
because
there's
a
general
plan,
land
use,
Amendment,
that's
requested
for
this
I
asked
some
general
questions
just
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
requirement
that
there's
voter
approval
for
it
two
easy
answers.
I'm
sure
is
no.
K
G
K
Okay,
very
easy.
Second,
current
designation
is
commercial
and
residential.
The
land
use
amendment
is
not
changing
that
designation,
so
there
would
be
no
net
increase
in
commercial
acreage.
Is
that
correct,
correct?
Okay?
So
then,
the
last
one
regards
the
the
regarding
the
allocation
permanent
allocation
of
residential
units
to
the
property.
Does
that
allocation
as
needed
for
the
project
result
in
a
net
increase
of
the
maximum
amount
above
the
Baseline.
K
C
You
if
I
made
sure
chair
excuse
me
and
and
commercial
commissioner
Ferris
I
I,
always
ask
the
chair
for
permission
to
speak
if
I'm
interrupting
somebody.
So
I
apologize
to
your
point
on
that.
When
we
first
did
this
allocation,
we
did
up
to
55
because
that's
what
we
thought
the
parcel
size
was
going
to
be
and
then,
after
that
allocation
was
made,
which
was
definitely
55,
was
allocated
based
upon
the
recommendation
and
the
Assumption
of
the
parcel
size.
C
K
Yeah,
thank
you
I
just
want
to,
because
of
because
of
that
change.
I
want
to
know
what
we're
asking
for
the
official
recommendation
tonight.
So
thank
you.
I
do
have
a
question
just
just
for
the
record
on
this
sort
of
so
for
the
protected
tree.
Permit
we
are
asking
for
encroachment,
as
well
as
removal
for
four
trees,
has
the
impact
to
the
trees
given
the
size
of
the
project,
the
fact
that
they're
taking
advantage
of
the
density
bonus.
So
it
is
a
73
unit
project.
G
Yes,
we
did
specifically
on
their
review
process
to
explore
other
options
that
might
preserve
the
trees
and
in
going
back
and
forth.
This
really
is
the
best
compromise
and
most
of
the
trees
are
being,
of
course,
preserved.
They
are
being
encroached
upon,
but
a
lot
of
trees
are
being
preserved
and
incorporated
into
that
public
open
space
as
well,
and
the
design
team
can
speak
a
little
bit
more
to
maybe
what
they
went
through
to
contemplate
that
option.
But,
yes,
it
was
considered.
G
K
Thank
you
with
respect
to
the
waivers
and
the
concession
there's
a
little
bit
of
discussion
about
their
the
state
law
requires
concessions
and
then
there's
the
request
for
waivers,
and
we
do.
We
thank
you
for
again
a
discussion
just
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
the
authority
to
be
able
to
waive
some
of
the
the
particular
requests
here.
G
Yes,
the
waivers
we
staff
believes
that,
with
the
the
requested
waivers
improve
the
project
as
I
discussed,
it
allowed,
the
the
decreased
setbacks
or
the
waiving
of
the
increase
really
allows
the
project
to
be
more
walkable.
Provide
that
direct
access
to
the
sidewalks
things
like
that
and,
of
course,
providing
the
trash
enclosure
inside
the
parking
garage
is
preferable
to
providing
it
outside
where
it's
exposed
to
the
elements
and
things
like
that.
G
K
Maybe
we
can.
We
can
end
up
talking
about
this
after
afterwards,
in
some
ways
of
the
the
nature
of
waivers
and
the
concessions
of
knocking
the
waivers
and
sort
of
whether
they're
you
know,
if
they're
viable
for
today
and
how
they
got
kind
of
all
work.
We
we
can
maybe
talk
about
that
at
a
later
later
time.
K
I
would
like
to
have
a
further
discussion,
I
think
a
little
bit
about
it,
because,
as
commissioner
Lansing,
because
it
comes
up
a
bit
more
and
might
be
good
for
us
to
have
a
a
thoughtful
view
on
how
we
want
to
consider
either.
Updates
of
of
certain
codes
in
in
this
environment
of
concessions
and
potential
waivers
last
thing
is,
is
that
there
were
recommendations
from
the
applicant
regarding
certain
conditions
being
removed
and
amended.
Are,
is
Staff
okay
with
those,
and
is
that
intended
to
be
incorporated
in
the
recommendation
that
we
have
tonight.
G
L
I
It's
8
P.M
peak
hour
trip,
so
during
the
peak
period
there
will
be
a
net
increase
of
eight
trips
when
you
take
into
account
the
proposed
project
and
the
existing
use
credit
on.
What's
currently
there,
the
existing
office,
so
during
that
Peak,
not
eight
trips
as
a
whole,
but
just
during
that
Peak
period.
So
what
what
constitutes
the
peak
period?
L
And,
and
can
you
give
me
kind
of
a
birds
I'm
glad
you're
here,
I
appreciate
that
kind
of
a
bird's
eye
view
of
how
you
guys
assess
that,
because
I
know
that
that's
a
that's
a
really
congested
street,
because
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
that
street.
So
it's
a
very
congested
Street
coming
down
is
that
is
that
basically
Ingress
egress?
How
does
that
work
again?
Bird's
eye
view,
because
I
know
this
is
really
complicated
stuff,
but
just
kind
of
a
bird's
eye
view
would
be
helpful.
I
Foreign,
yes,
commissioner,
so
the
the
way
we
review
trips
for
a
project
which
is
based
on
the
Institute
of
Transportation,
engineer,
trip
generation
manual,
it's
based
on
National,
Standard
or
national
observations
of
similar
land
uses.
So
for
this
project
is
a
multi-family
residential
based
on
the
trip
rate
provided
by
the
manual.
We
generate
a
number
of
trips
for
the
proposed
project
and
if
there's
an
existing
use
credit
or
an
existing
use
currently
on
the
site,
for
example,
this
office,
we,
the
project,
can
take
a
credit
for
that.
I
B
G
The
technical
front
yard
is
Moody
Court,
based
on
the
definition
of
a
front
yard
in
the
municipal
code,
the
real
life,
what
we
will
consider
the
entrances,
the
main
entrances
are
off
of
Long
Court,
both
parking
lot
entrances
and
the
lobby
are
on
Long
Court,
so
they'll
stick
with
the
88
Long
Court
address.
Okay,
thank
you.
B
B
N
First,
we
must
extend
our
thank
yous
to
the
city
staff,
in
particular,
Justine
Kendall,
for
your
leadership
in
guiding
the
project
through
the
planning
process
and
for
your
valuable
recommendations
that
led
to
improvements
to
the
project.
The
project
is
definitely
in
better
shape
with
your
involvement
and
we
sincerely
appreciate
your
recommendations
for
approval
of
this
project
and,
as
you
heard,
we
are
requesting
your
approval
to
allocate
54
units
of
measuring
residential
capacity
through
the
general
plan,
Amendment
and
recommend
approval
of
the
project
to
the
city
council.
N
N
Project
statistics
indicate
the
project
meets
or
exceeds
several
development
standards.
You've
heard
those,
including
the
provision
for
more
Landscaping
than
required
more
parking
than
the
required
and
providing
publicly
accessible
open
space
in
the
form
of
a
parklet
in
the
northeast
corner
of
the
property
in
excess
of
what
the
specific
plan
requires.
N
The
number
of
affordable
units
proposed
exceeds
what
state
density
bonus
law
requires,
and
this
project
checks
all
the
boxes.
It
provides
housing
in
the
West
End
of
the
boulevard
where
jobs
are
or
retail
exists
and
where
services
are
provided.
In
addition,
the
project
incorporates
sustainability
principles
that
will
encourage
walking
instead
of
driving,
thereby
reducing
vehicle
miles.
N
Staff
did
a
great
job
walking
you
through
how
the
project
meets
or
exceeds
the
requirements
of
the
city,
and
we've
touched
on
the
major
points,
but
we'd
be
helping
happy
to
delve
deeper.
If
you
desire
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
there's
been
some
Outreach
done
and
you'll
see
in
the
support.
That's
here
tonight
from
Thousand
Oaks,
Boulevard
Association
in
the
chamber,
greater
canoe,
Valley,
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
as
staff
has
indicated,
there's
been
no
other
Communications
from
the
public
about
this
project.
N
My
client
is
committed
to
working
close
closely
with
staff
in
the
community
to
bring
a
responsive,
high
quality
project
that
will
significantly
upgrade
the
area
by
removing
an
older
commercial
building
and
replacing
it
with
new
residential
with
a
new
residential
community
that
will
serve
our
residents
and
business
as
well.
I
have
the
team
behind
me.
Keith
will
can
answer
any
of
your
questions
about
design
and
I
know.
There
I
heard
some
questions
about
that
and
Richard's
here
to
talk
to
you
about
trees
and,
of
course,
I'm
available
to
respond
to
any
questions.
N
H
Good
evening,
Mr
Cohen,
thanks
for
going
through
the
process,
I'm
going
to
ask
you
the
question
I
ask
every
developer,
don't
be
don't
mean
to
be
offended
by
the
process,
but
it's
one
of
those
things
that
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
clear
on.
Is
this
something
where
the
apple
is
just
trying
to
get
the
entitlements
to
then
flip
it
to
somebody
else,
or
do
they
actually
intend
to
build
it.
H
That's
great
and
by
the
way
I
mean
I.
I
don't
mean
that
to
sound
as
a
mean
question,
but
I
really
appreciate
by
the
way
how
much
it
looks
like
the
applicant
and
all
of
you
did
work
with
the
staff
in
terms
of
trying
to
make
this
a
good
process.
Thank
you.
Any
idea
again
I
know
I'm
asking
for
a
range
so
to
speak
as
to
how
long
that
process
may
take
before
we
actually
have
the
opening.
N
N
H
And
and
just
to
confirm,
you've
not
received
any
other
communication
from
Neighbors
or
anybody
else.
With
regard
to
the
project,
no
okay,
I
did
notice
the
it
again
I.
Think
I
saw
your
your
clients,
heads
kind
of
saying.
No,
there
was
a
sign
up
that
was
for
sale,
I'm,
assuming
it's
not
for
sale
anymore,
and
the
broker
just
forgot
to
take
the
sign
down
is
what
I'm,
assuming
I'm.
H
O
Okay,
I'm
Keith
McCloskey,
with
ktgy
Architects
and
from
Thousand
Oaks
California
regarding
the
Acoustics
to
the
project.
When
we
get
into
the
construction
documentation
process,
we'll
have
to
do
an
acoustical
report
and
we'll
have
to
ensure
a
certain
decibel
level
on
the
interior
of
the
units
and
so
typically
on
freeway
adjacent
facades
that
ends
up
being
about
a
sound
transmission
coefficient
of
about
40,
which
often
is
triple
pain,
glazing.
O
H
O
They're
essentially
in
front
and
to
the
west
of
the
pool,
so
the
pool
sits
on
the
opening
of
the
courtyard,
where
the
courtyard
opens
up
to
the
small
Oak
Park
with
the
playground
on
the
North
side
and
those
units
sit
just
to
the
west
of
that.
So
they're,
immediately
adjacent
to
where
the
pool
equipment
would
be
in
that
garage.
That's
largely
buried
by
the.
H
It
okay
and
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
your
question,
but
in
terms
of
the
traffic
issue
I
know
we
were
looking
at
the
concept
of
of
usage
and
again
right
now.
Obviously
the
property
is
I,
don't
even
know
if
it's
even
occupied
when
I
went
out
there.
Obviously
it's
hard
to
count
trips
but
I'm,
assuming
if
we
went
back
years,
the
the
place
was
fully
occupied.
Is
this
traffic
information
indicated
in
the
supplement
what
the
applicant
has
found
when
they
got
when
the
property
was
occupied.
H
O
Comparison
to
the
traffic
levels
at
maximum
occupancy,
correct,
yeah
I
think
that
the
traffic
engineer
Public
Works,
could
speak
to
that.
But
I
think
that
the
eight
Delta
eight
additional
trips
at
that
peak
time
are
really
based
on
the
expected
occupancy
at
Max
occupancy,
not
based
on
you
know.
If
it's
currently,
what
is
20
at
least
25,
at
least.
H
Yeah,
okay
and
and
the
last
question
Mr
Cohen
I
appreciate
you
trying
to
answer
before.
I
asked
it,
but
just
make
sure
so
you're
you're
agreeable
with
all
the
other
terms
and
conditions,
except
for
the
ones
that
you
modified
and
then
you
would
be
agreeable
as
to
those
as
modified.
Yes,
thank
you.
Nothing
further.
B
O
B
N
N
O
Essentially
unrelated,
so
the
market
rent
is
just
determined
by
market
conditions,
so
often
the
very
low
or
low
in
the
market.
May
Be,
Closer,
Than
you'd,
imagine
depending
on
where
the
market
lies
and
if
the
market
is
very
hot,
that
can
be
a
big
Delta
between
market
and
very
low,
but
the
the
county
will
establish
the
maximum
rent
for
that
specific
unit
type
and.
A
O
B
O
Yeah
they're
just
dispersed
equitably
throughout
the
whole
building,
so
they're
dispersed
on
all
three
of
the
residential
levels
and
at
east
west
south
locations
throughout
the
project,
so
that
they're
not
shoved
into
one
corner.
That,
essentially
the
project
will
look
and
feel
is
one
cohesive
project
and
nobody
would
know
which
apartment
is
more
or
less
than.
H
B
M
I
think
staff
did
an
excellent
job,
as
well
as
the
applicant
team,
to
demonstrate
the
community
benefits
and
the
intent
of
this
project
and
how
severely
underserved
housing
is
I.
Remember
not
too
long
ago
there
was
such
a
passionate
discussion
about
30
units
50
units,
and
now
we
have
a
project
like
this,
with
pretty
much
unanimous
support
and
and
just
a
willingness
for
people
to
want
others
that
live
along
Thousand,
Oaks,
Boulevard
and
within
close
proximity
to
live
in
these
units.
M
I
could
tell
you
from
firsthand
experience
the
last
two
projects
that
we've
had
on
Thousand
Oaks,
Boulevard,
1710
and
299,
we're
almost
100
percent
pre-release
waiting
list
and
the
affordable
units
at
299.
Significant
portion
of
those
were
leased
by
people
that
live
I'm,
sorry
that
work
along
Thousand,
Oaks
Boulevard,
which
I
was
really
impressed
by.
We
know
what
quality
of
project
we're
going
to
get
out
of
ktgy.
P
Good
evening,
chair,
McMahon
and
planning
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Danielle
Borgia
I'm,
president
CEO
of
the
Greater
Conejo
Valley
Chamber
of
Commerce.
We
represent
over
750
businesses,
Across
The,
Conejo
Valley,
many
in
Thousand
Oaks
and
on
behalf
of
our
chamber
and
our
executive
committee.
We
just
wanted
to
share
our
support
for
this
project.
I
think
one
of
the
really
important
things
that
has
been
brought
up
tonight
is
the
location
as
we
look
to
revitalize
Thousand
Oaks
Boulevard
and
with
the
opening
of
299
and
tarantula
brewing,
and
the
nazarbikian
lot
also
in
that
region.
P
I
think
there
is
a
lot
of
opportunity
with
this
type
of
quality
project,
to
provide
housing.
That's
really
close
to
our
jobs,
with
walkability
for
people
and
I.
Think
our
young
professionals
are
going
to
love
this
type
of
housing
option
and
we
are
in
strong
support
of
the
project
and
hope
you
will
support
it.
Moving
forward
to
city
council.
Thank
you.
Thank.
F
A
beautiful
project
I
do
have
some
reservations
about
the
continuity
with
the
sidewalks,
especially
the
amount
of
discussion
that
we
had
this
evening
about
how
walkable
we
want
the
boulevard
to
be
so.
If
it
were
me-
and
it
was
my
world
and
since
it's
not
you're
off
the
hook,
but
if
it
were
me-
and
it
was
my
world
that
would
have
you-
do
the
sidewalk
just
to
the
north
of
your
property,
but
I
don't
want
to
put
anything
else
on
your
property
that
you
haven't
already
been.
F
Let's
see
settled,
but
that's
the
wrong
word
that
has
a
negative
connotation
with,
because
that's
a
lot
of
conditions,
but
anyway,
again
I
I
want
to
reiterate
very
beautiful
project.
The
architecture
is
lovely.
It's
I
think
it
will
do
well
to
invigorate
the
boulevard,
because
we
do
need
one
of
the
things
that
is
lacking
is
the
amount
of
housing
or
well
and
yeah.
F
There
is
no
housing
on
the
Boulevard
and
if
we
are
to
activate
the
boulevard
as
sp20
has
positioned,
or
at
least
what
we
have
attempted
to
do-
and
this
is
this
goes
a
great
length.
So
that
being
the
case,
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
recommend
to
the
city
council
that
we
determine
the
project
is
category
we
exempt
from
SQL
and
that
they
approve
a
general
plan.
Amendment
2021-70182.
F
B
H
Thank
you
chair.
You
notice
the
non-lawyer
decided
to
read
the
whole
thing
as
opposed
to
what
I
did
last
time
when
I
first
got
in
the
commission,
we
had
at
that
time
already
I
think
almost
no
properties
left
to
build
in
terms
of
open
projects.
So
what
I
looked
at?
This
was
basically
strategic
repurposing
of
properties,
wherever
we
could
to
find
Opportunities
to
find
engagement
to
find
connectivity
and
I
cannot
think
of
a
better
project.
To
do
that
than
this.
It
takes
a
property
that
is
not
as
effective.
H
Oh,
my
time's
up
not
as
effective
as
it
could
be
it.
It
finds
an
opportunity
to
to
repurpose
it
in
a
way
that
actually
brings
its
best
use
in
terms
of
the
process.
It
looks
great.
It
provides
functionality.
Yes,
there's
going
to
be
some
issues
again,
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
project
that
we've
looked
at.
That
is
going
to
be
foolproof
in
that
process.
But
again
the
fact
that
we've
tried
to
find
issues
and
the
best
I
think
we
can
do
is
looking
at
a
sidewalk
and,
and
it
may
be
a
little
noisy.
H
It
shows
I
think
how
ultimately
like
really
good
this
project
is.
My
hope
is
that
we
see
it
soon.
To
be
honest
with
you,
that's
one
of
my
main
goals
at
this
point
is
really
to
get
this
housing
because,
again,
as
as
Borgia
said,
we
actually
are
looking
forward
to
kind
of
doing
these
things
and
I
want
to
get
that
housing
there
for
these
people
and
to
create
that
opportunity
for
biotech
which,
by
the
way
is,
is
coming
in
town
more
and
more
and
is
looking
for
those
opportunities.
H
K
K
K
there
and
and
through
the
density
bonus
program
that
the
state
has
allowed.
We
will
be
able
to
add
affordable
units
for
a
variety
of
the
the
member,
the
socioeconomic
members
of
our
community,
to
be
able
to
to
live
and
and
work
in
the
in
in
the
city.
I'm
glad
that
the
applicant
was
willing
to
be
able
to
do
that,
I'm
glad
that
we're
able
to
support
that
Community
benefit
with
trying
to
also
adhere
to
all
the
other
high
standards
that
we
have
for
development
projects
within
the
plan
and
within
the
city.
B
Thank
you
any
other
comments,
commissioner.
No
okay,
I
also
want
to
congratulate
I,
feel
like
the
applicant
and
the
staff
work
together
to
make
a
really
wonderful
project
that
is
the
highest
and
best
use
of
that
land,
which
is
something
that
we
all
look
for.
So
thank
you
to
both
of
you
and
I
will
also
support.
The
motion.
Will
the
secretary
please
prepare
us
for
a
vote,
commissioner.
D
K
I
I
think
I
did
want
to
have
some
comments,
just
for
not
to
actually
discuss
the
topic,
but
maybe
we
can
request
some
manner
of
a
discussion
session
or
something
agendized
for
a
future.
A
future
meeting
we
have
now,
in
this
case,
in
a
previous
case,
sort
of
expounded
Upon
Our
discomfort
of
of
being
requested
to
waive
some
of
the
standards
that
we
have,
given
that
some
of
the
requirements
of
the
density
bonus
program
are
choir.
K
Concessions
on
some
of
those
and
I'm
not
going
to
ask
for
us
to
discuss
it,
but
but
sort
of
one
of
one
of
the
things
did
come
up
in
both
those
cases
was
the
minimum
private
open
space.
One
of
the
things
I
find
interesting
is
that
that
was
one
for
which
a
mandated
concession
was
given,
and
so,
if
we
were
to
revise
it
downward,
would
then
another
codes
that
are
worthy
of
us
reviewing
just
for
sign
of
the
time
times.
K
I
I'm
wondering
if,
if
it's
possible
for
any
any
time
where
there
are
maybe
for
future
staff
reports
for
where
there's
a
measure
e
allocation,
if
there's
a
little
bit
more
detail
of
the
numbers
of
what's
available,
what's
being
allocated,
so
that
we
can
judge
for
ourselves
that
it
does
in
fact
meet
what's
available.
Prior
to
that,
I
had
to
do
a
little
discussion
myself
with
with
staff,
which
they
were
fantastic
about
being
very,
very
good.
On
a
Sunday
and.
K
B
E
Their
second
readings
will
occur
on
April
25th,
along
with
the
public
hearing
on
the
Community
Development
block
ground
action
plan
for
the
upcoming
Planning
Commission
schedule
on
April
3rd
there'll
be
a
public
hearing
for
a
special
use
permit
for
a
Tesla
dealership
in
the
Richmond
area.
There
are
no
items
scheduled
for
the
April
24th
meeting,
but
on
May
8th
there
will
be
a
special
use
permit
or
minor
modification
to
allow
medical
and
training
school
up
on
Willow
Lane,
and
that
is
it.