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Traffic Commission Meeting October 20, 2021
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All
remarks
should
be
addressed
to
the
traffic
commission
as
a
whole
and
all
documents
for
the
commission
and
the
official
record
should
be
presented
to
the
recording
secretary
prior
to
the
meeting.
Speakers
are
requested
to
state
their
name
and
community
residence
for
the
record
under
state
law.
Public
comment
matters
may
not
be
considered
by
the
traffic
commission
unless
listed
on
the
agenda,
but
may
be
referred
to
the
city
engineer
for
administrative
follow-up.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
and
just
one
more
thing
before
we
have
our
speaker
begin
I'd
like
to
ask
commissioners
and
any
participants
and
speakers
to
please
silence
your
cell
phones
and
remind
any
participants
and
our
commissioners
as
well
that
during
our
meeting
we
do
not
communicate
by
way
of
the
zoom
chat
service
with
one
another,
and
with
that,
may
we
have
our
first
speaker.
Please.
C
C
D
D
I
am
opposed
to
the
current
bicycle
lane.
Improvements
or
ideas
for
newbury
park
amongst
the
top
of
that
list
is
the
fire
department
response
fire
station
32
responds
to
much
of
northern
western
newbury
park,
and
these
bicycle
lanes
will
reduce
their
response
corridor
down
to
one
lane
for
roughly
half
of
their
trip
over
to
newbury
park
or
over
to
northwest
newbury
park,
and
I'm
sure
I
don't
need
to
tell
you
that
people
already
have
a
difficulty
getting
out
of
the
way
of
fire
trucks
and
ambulances
much
less
when
they
only
have
one
lane
available.
D
I
also
wanted
to
point
out
that
the
evacuation
from
southwestern
newbury
park
and
specifically
dos
vientos,
will
be
negatively
impacted
by
any
type
of
evacuation
that
we
have
to
do.
There's
obviously,
fires
in
this
area.
Fires
in
the
santa
monica
mountains-
and
I
know
the
city
recently
got-
I
believe,
an
eight
million
dollar
grant
to
improve
evacuation
throughout
the
city,
and
I
I
find
it
really
hard
to
believe
that
we
can
improve
our
evacuation
of
the
dos
vientos
area
by
reducing
all
of
the
streets
that
exit
dos
vienos
down
to
one
lane.
D
Dos
fiona's
traffic
uses
reno
road
orchard,
road,
lin,
road
and
all
three
of
those
roads
are
being
discussed
to
limit
down
to
one
lane
for
bicycle
use.
That's
really
all
I
had.
I
wanted
to
just
make
public
my
disapproval
of
this
this
project
and
also
like
to
point
out
that
I
didn't
bother
to
look
for
it
right
now,
but
on
some
sites
like
nextdoor
and
facebook,
I
previously
saw
surveys
going
to
the
the
different
neighborhoods
asking
and
if
I
remember
right,
I
think
I
saw
about
70
to
eighty
percent
of
people.
B
F
F
I
think
of
the
previous
meeting
we
were
told
this
road
was
designed
for
18
000
vehicles.
We
currently
have
roughly
14
000
vehicles
and
if
we
cut
it
down
in
half
to
one
lane
in
each
direction,
that's
basically
saying
9
000
vehicles
right,
so
we're
already
50
over
capacity
and
the
way
it
was
explained.
Last
time
it
was,
for
you
know
the
possibility
of
gaining
more
ridership.
So
we
had
asked
if
there
was
a
traffic
study
done
and
a
cycling
study
done,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
that
has
yet
been
done.
F
The
busiest
times
I
think
for
me,
are
you
going
to
school.
I
drive
this
road
multiple
times
a
day,
and
I
find
it
sometimes
very
difficult
to
you
know,
make
a
left
out
of
the
mayfield
area
on
the
reno
road
and
when
it's
down
to
one
lane
and
backed
up
as
as
much
as
it
is,
it
would
be
next
to
impossible
for
us
to
get
out
of
here.
So
that's
about
all.
I
have
to
say
about
that.
G
G
This
is
a
dangerous
intersection,
linen
jans.
It
has
a
curve
and
an
elevation
and
they
just
drive
through
it
and
end
up
in
the
median
strip.
And
a
couple
weeks
ago
we
had
one
northbound
where
the
two
cars
collided
and
ended
up
going
southbound
on
the
northbound
lane
and
hit
a
wall
which
those
are
really
expensive
when
you
have
to
pay
to
repair
them
which
those
are
owner.
Walls.
G
We're
also
having
problems
people
I
am
assuming
young
people,
since
sometimes
they
get
with
wrong
people
and
do
wrong
things
and
in
this
drought
it
was
disturbing
to
me
that
we
were
having
fireworks
going
on
and
when
I
called
I
was
told
it
was.
They
were
too
busy
to
respond,
and
I
know
our
response
times
are
supposed
to
be
five
minutes,
but
now
they're,
seven
and
a
half
minutes.
G
G
If
you
look
at
the
2018
budget,
we
had
61
patrol
service
officers,
we
have
41
and
we
have
so
much
racing
going
on
down
here.
We
have
martin,
you
have
one
minute
remaining.
Thank
you.
We
have
illegal
exhausts.
I
can
register
100
decibel
behind
my
wall,
which
should
take
it
down.
10
decibel
and
I've
recorded
people
who
have
vehicles
that
are
idling.
They
cannot
and
your
staff
has
told
me:
no-
they
can't
they
can't
do
that.
G
A
Hello,
I'm
clint
fultz
from
the
canelo
climate
coalition
and
I
live
in
thousand
oaks.
I
wanted
to
voice
our
support
as
the
canado
climate
coalition
for
additional
bike
lanes.
The
transportation
sector
accounts
for
62
percent
of
all
greenhouse
gas
emissions
in
thousand
oaks,
and
new
bike
lanes
would
be
a
great
opportunity
to
reduce
pollution
by
increasing
bike
bicycle
ridership
in
our
community.
A
Additionally,
a
study
published
in
the
british
medical
journal
found
that
people
who
commute
by
bike
have
a
52
percent
lower
risk
of
death
from
heart
disease,
a
46
percent,
lower
risk
of
developing
heart
disease,
a
40
percent
lower
risk
of
death
from
cancer
and
a
45
percent
lower
risk
of
developing
cancer.
So
there's
plenty
of
good
reasons
to
increase
bicycle
ridership
in
our
community.
A
I'd
also
like
to
give
a
quick
shout
out
for
protected
bike
lanes.
I
understand
that
they
aren't
part
of
the
current
plan,
but
I
feel
like
it's
obligatory,
that
I
throw
it
out
there
predicted
bike
lanes
are
great
and
on
another
subject,
I'm
sorry.
I
didn't
have
time
to
do
more
research
on
item
6c,
but
I
used
to
live
on
chiquita
lane
and
would
walk
down
north
oakview
lane
to
across
thousand
oaks
boulevard
to
catch
the
161
bus
to
work
and
even
with
the
flashing
lights.
A
A
A
I
think
one
thing
that
we
should
consider
that
you
probably
may
have
been
considering
that
you
can
notice
is
the
increased
use
of
e-bikes
or
even
e-scooters
many
of
the
single-wheel
e
things,
and
I
think
you're
gonna
see
these
being
used
by
the
high
school
and
right
now.
There
really
is
not
a
good
path
to
get
to
newbury
park
high
school.
This
will
be
a
tremendous
improvement
for
them
as
they
continue.
A
You
know,
as
this
trend
continues
to
grow,
it's
exploding
right
now,
so
I
realize
it's
difficult
for
people
who
have
always
had
the
transportation
system
really
discussed
in
terms
of
the
automobile
and
their
automobile,
but
I'm
glad
we're
having
a
broader
conversation
now
of
including
all
types
of
transportations
into
the
system
in
newberry
park.
Thank
you.
H
Hello:
everyone,
my
name,
is
trenton
sigurd
and
I
live
in
newbury
park.
Excuse
me,
I
want
to
voice
my
support
for
these
bike
lanes.
I
live
essentially
on
lynn
and
reno,
and
so
the
reno
corridor
is
a
route
that
I
travel.
Often
I
use
that
to
go
grocery
shopping.
I
use
it
to
get
coffee
and
it's
a
corridor
down
to
the
albert
the
albertson
shopping
center,
as
well
as
the
trader
joe's
shopping
center.
H
If
you
don't
ride
a
bicycle,
what
it
looks
like
going
up
the
reno
street
with
cars
passing
you
very
closely
and
it
is
very
uncomfortable
and
I
typically
hug
the
side
of
the
lane
where
there
can
be
objects
and
whatnot.
So,
with
the
use
of
my
e-bike,
I
am
going
to
be
taking
the
lane
and
I
will
further
keep
recording
myself
riding
in
the
bike
routes
and
so
that
people
can
see
what
cyclists
have
the
the
good
things
and
the
bad
things.
H
B
B
I
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
chair
lemo.
This
is
a
petition
request
to
install
speed
humps
on
columbia,
road
between
mark
park,
road
and
sydley
street.
On
your
screen,
you
should
have
a
powerpoint
slides
that
are
popping
up.
Here's
a
location
map
showing
columbia
road
highlighted
in
orange,
just
northwest
of
the
intersection
of
moorpark
road
and
jans
road.
The
petition
zone
is
approximately
half
a
mile
in
length.
I
I
The
same
segment
as
charlemagne
just
mentioned
was
previously
previously
reviewed
by
the
commission
for
consideration
of
speed
humps
back
in
february
of
2020.
At
that
meeting,
the
commission
voted
3-1
to
not
recommend
speed
humps
be
installed,
as
the
street
segment
did
not
meet
the
city's
speed
hum
guidelines.
I
I
It
has
a
relatively
flat
grade
and
street
lights
and
sidewalks
are
provided
towards
the
west
end
of
the
road
segment,
the
road
curves
to
the
right
and
the
grade
of
the
street
heads
down.
You
can
see
there
are
center
line
or
there
is
center
line
striping.
At
this
point,
it's
been
added
to
guide
motorists
through
the
curve
and
keep
them
on
their
half
of
the
roadway
and
then
after
the
curve.
This
is
the
view
at
triangle:
street.
I
To
give
a
little
background
on
this
petition,
we
received
the
petition
in
or
april
this
year,
77
percent
of
the
residents
supported
installing
speed
humps
on
columbia,
road.
We
collected
traffic
data
shortly
thereafter
with
the
petitioners
providing
input
on
the
placement
of
the
three
machine
counters
that
we
use
to
collect
the
data.
I
The
traffic
data
findings
and
recommendation
are
summarized
in
the
stack
report.
Prior
to
the
meeting,
approximately
230
million
notices
were
mailed
to
the
neighborhood
so
that
the
residents
on
both
columbia,
road
and
adjacent
cross
streets
could
provide
input
on
this
matter.
To
assist
the
commission
develop
the
recommendation
on
this
petition
request.
I
I
City
speed,
hump
policy
is
documented
by
resolution.
2009
45.,
there's
nine
criteria
that
we
review
for
this
presentation,
I'll
focus
on
four
measurable
criteria
that
are
based
on
the
petition
rate
daily
traffic
volume,
speed,
which
is
the
percentage
of
traffic
traveling
faster
than
25
miles
an
hour
and
the
residential
street
requirement.
I
I
Here's
some
additional
data
that
are
not
part
of
the
speedhem
criteria,
but
we
thought
we'd
share
with
you
regarding
speed
and
collisions
the
speed,
depending
on
which
road
segment
that
you're
on
ranges
anywhere
from
25
to
34
miles
an
hour
and
collision
data
that
we
collected
over
a
six
and
a
half
year
period
for
the
road.
There
was
five
reported,
with
only
one
being
related
to
speed
as
a
primary
factor.
I
I
I
Here's
a
schematic
diagram,
showing
the
layout
of
seven
speed,
cushions
spaced
at
uniform
intervals
about
three
to
four
hundred
feet.
Apart,
the
spacing
encourages
driving
or
drivers
to
maintain
a
steady
pace
rather
than
speeding
up
and
slowing
down.
If
spaced
further
apart
and
with
speed
visions,
we
would
not
expect
a
significant
volume
of
traffic
divert
to
traffic
to
divert
to
other
streets.
However,
if
there
is
some
traffic
diversion
this,
the
streets
shown
in
green
service
alternate
routes
in
the
neighborhood.
These
streets
include
burleson,
avenue,
sidley
street
kevin
street
and
triangle
street.
I
B
I
B
J
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
Mr
michiko.
I
just
had
one
well
two
questions,
just
very
very
general.
I
just
wanted
to.
I
missed
it,
maybe
in
the
staff
report
or
or
maybe
just
went
over
my
head
when
we
did
the
I
just
want
to
get
a
date
or
date
range
when
the
traffic
speed
and
volume
measurements
on
columbia,
road
were
done.
B
I
J
J
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that,
and
can
you
confirm
with
me
I'm
just
again
it's
kind
of
along
the
line
of
the
chairs
question.
We
seem
to
be
really
guided
here
by
the
2009
resolution
passed
by
council
as
to
what
what
we
can
and
cannot
consider
and
what
qualifies
for
speed,
hump
installation
is
that
correct.
I
K
K
I
think,
for
the
first
time,
there's
a
reference
there
to
speed,
lumps
I
guess
to
be
distinguished
from
speed
humps,
and
so
I
was
I
was.
I
was
wondering
what
what
is
the
distinction
between
speed
lumps
and
speed
humps,
and
secondly,
we're
talking?
Alternatively,
in
this
in
this
particular
item,
about
speed,
cushions
and
so
did
speed
cushion
technology
exist
in
2009
such
that
when
we're
when
we're
referencing,
speed,
humps
and
speed
lumps
in
this
resolution
did
it
contemplate
speed,
cushions.
K
I
K
I
K
Yeah,
thank
you
that
there
was.
There
was
also
a
reference.
I
think
in
one
of
the
emails
that
we
received
in
connection
with
this
item.
That
was
pointing
out
that
I
think
it's
st
pascal
babylon
has
a
northern
exit
or
a
driveway
there
that
that
is
adjacent
to
colombia.
And
I
was
wondering
if,
if
it
would
be
possible
to
put
back
up
the
the
map
of
the
neighborhood
that
we're
looking
at
now
and
just
indicate
where
that
driveway
is.
I
I
L
Thank
you.
Actually,
I
think
the
advice,
your
email
brought
up
some
very
interesting
items
here
and
I
think,
because
of
the
language,
I
guess
I
guess
my
my
question
would
be
what
what
actually,
what
actually
was
the
technology
that
people
thought
about
when
it
was
speed
lump
is
it
just?
Is
it
just
like
a
a
shallower,
speed
hump
so
that
it's
it's
or
is
it
truly?
These
sort
of,
like
you,
give
these
lanes
for
high
profile
things
so
that
they
could
get
over
it?
I
Okay,
let
me
just
show
you
the
image
again:
it's
it's
probably
the
on
this
image.
It
shows.
Basically,
this
is
a
speed,
cushion
or
speed
lump.
Both
are
the
same
same
thing
and
then
that's
the
tires
correct.
That's
the
tire
yeah
area
we
see
where
the
cutting
is
great.
When
a
fire
truck
passes
through,
they
would
pass
through
those
open
slots.
They
would
not
be
impacted
by
the
by
the
pavement
portion.
That's
that
that
rises
up
and
back
down
again.
L
L
And
for
that
reason,
that's
one
of
the
one
of
the
rationales
of
why
you
said
the
introduction.
The
introduction
of
these
speed
cushions
would
not
lead
to
diversion
of
traffic
to
other
non-speed
humped
areas,
because
this
would
allow
people
to
be
able
to
traverse
this
without
significant,
significant
slowing
just
to
get
over
the
hump
and
not
ruin
their
transmission.
L
N
L
N
M
N
N
M
B
C
We
currently
have
four
individuals
that
have
requested
to
speak
on
this
item
again.
Speakers
are
about
three
minutes
and
for
the
record,
there
are
six
emails
we
have
received
to
date
regarding
the
speed
hump
petition
for
columbia,
road,
the
pdf
contains
comments
from
two
supporting
speed:
humps
three
opposed
to
speed
humps
and
one
in
support
of
speed,
hunt
cushions
only
within
a
designated
zone,
I'll
go
ahead
and
call
it.
C
H
H
H
As
far
as
getting
this
data,
according
to
how
many
trips
a
day,
a
household
supposed
to
take
it's
around
10.,
so
53
times,
10
would
give
you
530
trips
a
day
that
should
be
going
up
and
down
the
street.
If
you
go
with
that
rule
of
thumb,
one
location
hit:
1
980
vehicles
in
a
24
hour
period,
that's
by
the
st
pasco
school
and
burleson
avenue.
H
H
So
I
think
this,
the
city
should
consider
this
a
cut
through
street
and
also
there
was
no
actual
cut
through
survey
done
to
do
that,
you
would
have
to
do
a
license
plate
survey
and
that
was
not
completed.
So
I
think
the
city
should
consider
this
street
being
a
cut
through,
and
that
would
be
one
of
the
criteria
that
would
meet
that
that
threshold
to
release
the
numbers
by
500
vehicles.
H
The
second
part
was
that
st
pascal
school
is
exiting
a
thousand
cars
a
day
on
that
area
across
from
burleson
street,
but
yet
we're
not
we're
not
the
street's
not
con
or
I'm
sorry.
The
school
is
not
considered
adjacent
to
columbia,
road
that
just
baffles
me
that
another
thousand
cars
will
be
put
on
the
road
in
that
area.
But
we
can't
say
the
school
is
on
our
road.
Last
year
in
the
commission,
one
thing
that
one
of
the
commission
members
said
was:
I
wish
there
was
a
school
on
your
street
number.
H
Curve
leading
down
towards
north
towards
triangle
street
is
not
considered
a
winding
curving
street.
That
pitcher
doesn't
do
it
justice.
You
go
down
around
the
corner.
You
can't
see
around
the
corner,
then
it
leads
into
a
two-way
stop.
There's
so
many
accidents
that
almost
happen
there
and
triangle
is
actually
the
cut
through
that
people
get
to
to
get
back
on
jans
and
eventually
down
to
lynn
road.
They
don't
go
to
sydney.
It
was
almost
like
a
400
car
jump
from
the
midpoint
to
after
triangle,
so
the
people
are
cutting
through
it.
H
Triangle
last
point:
is
the
speed
sensor
put
at
230
accounting
for
480
cars,
they're
traveling,
zero
to
15
miles
an
hour
into
that
average
speed
of
32
miles
an
hour.
Those
should
be
thrown
out
because
those
are
people
driving
to
the
driveway.
If
I'm
driving
10
miles
out
or
drive
my
driveway,
another
person
drives
by
going
40
now
we're
both
doing
50
divide
that
by
two
we're,
not
both
doing
25
miles
an
hour.
So
I
think
the
way
that
they
measure
the
speed
is
not
a
good
way
to
do
it.
F
F
F
What
I
saw
were
three
accidents,
and
that
was
all
one
in
the
same
year,
I
believe
was
2017
or
2018.
Their
people
were
driving
very
fast.
They
smashed
into
a
trash
can
smashed
into
a
car,
and
the
other
one
was
smashing
into
a
mailbox
tearing
off
the
mailbox,
which
is
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
street,
and
I
would
I
would
like
the
idea
of
the
speed
cushions.
I
think
that
makes
sense,
although
I
am
concerned
that
people's
speed
would
not
really
be
slowed
down.
F
I
do
believe
that
columbia,
road
is
a
diversion
street
to
cut
back
time
to
get
from
more
park
road
to
to
jans
avenue.
I
would
like
to
see
at
least
the
cushions
put
in
I'm
curious.
If
anyone
on
the
commission
knows
about
the
existence
of
other
speed,
bumps
and
thousand
oaks,
we've
lived
in
thousand
oaks
for
many
years.
I'm
not
aware
of
a
single
street
in
thousand
milks
that
has
speed
bumps.
F
I
understand
there's
some
some
opposition.
I
can
understand
the
opposition,
but
regardless
of
how
many
cars
drive
down
the
road,
all
it
takes
is
one
vehicle
to
hit
a
pedestrian,
and
then
we
have
a
loss
of
life
and
we
have
possible
lawsuits.
I
would
like
to
avoid
that
by
having
speed
bumps
installed,
the
five
speed
bumps,
I
think,
would
be
sufficient.
F
F
Thank
you.
The
fact
that
saint
pascal's
catholic
church
is
along
colombia
not
directly
on
the
the
side
of
the
road,
but
it
causes
more
traffic
on
colombia.
More
traffic
causes
more
risk
of
collisions.
I
have
seen
cars
go
and
columbia
are
between
50
and
60
miles
an
hour
and
the
only
way
to
slow
that
traffic
down
is
by
speed,
cushions
or
speed
bumps.
F
I
would
I
live
in
san
jose
here
in
the
affluent
area,
where
there's
a
lot
of
children
on
sidewalks.
We
have
speed
bumps
all
over
the
place
in
willow.
Glen,
almost
every
street
has
speed
bumps
thousand
oaks,
as
far
as
I
know,
doesn't
have
a
single
road
with
speed
bumps.
That's
all
I
have
thank
you
very
much.
O
O
They
can
evade
that
traffic
light
by
turning
down
our
street
and
then
turning
as
clay
mentioned
on
triangle
street,
to
access
chance
and
then
lin
road
and
the
eventually
the
freeway.
I
appreciate
the
effort
in
the
past
to
post
the
speed
limit
radar
signs
and
to
increase
the
patrol
presence,
but
it's
inadequate.
That's
not
enough.
We
need
we
need
a
more
physical
barrier
to
these
speeders.
O
As
clay
mentioned,
two
took
two
cars.
You
know
someone
pulling
out
of
their
driveway
at
five
miles
an
hour
and
somebody
else
speeding
down
the
road
at
50
miles
an
hour
yeah.
They
may
average
25
miles
an
hour,
but
that's
really
not
a
a
realistic
illustration
of
what's
going
on.
Currently
the
the
traffic,
the
speed
of
the
traffic
is
dangerous.
There's
a
lot
of
children,
there's
elderly
and
you
know
when
I
pull
out
of
my
driveway.
O
B
A
I
understand
the
school
exits
out
onto
our
street
and
they
choose
to
come
all
the
way
west
down
columbia
versus
going
the
opposite
direction.
To
avoid
the
intersection
I
witness
weekly
honking
horns
from
people
at
the
corner
of
triangle
and
colombia
with
near
misses.
Constantly:
we've
had
an
elderly
person
who
was
hurt
badly,
trying
to
save
a
child
who
had
gone
out
into
the
street
from
a
car
that
was
racing
down
the
street.
A
A
new
person
moving
in
their
cars
were
parked
on
the
curb
they
were
hit
by
people
going
extremely
fast.
It's
ridiculous,
just
living
here
and
being
in
my
yard
daily
and
watching
what
I
watch
and
I
think,
if
any
one
of
you
were
living
here
and
saw
that
you
would
definitely
be
petitioning
for
this.
It's
just
too
dangerous.
We
have
many
children
on
this
street
and
many
elderly
and
a
an
elderly
woman
fell
this
it's
a
blind
corner.
A
As
you're
rounding,
the
westward
bound
coming
down
to
triangle,
she
was
trying
to
cross
the
street
and
fell
in
the
middle
of
the
street,
and
I
rushed
to
get
her
because
I
knew
she'd
be
hit
by
a
car.
I've
been
hit
almost
hit
numerous
times
trying
to
pull
in
or
out
of
my
driveway,
because
people
come
racing
through
here.
It's
ridiculous!
I
don't
that's
really
all
I
can
say
I
I
think
most
of
the
points
have
been
touched
upon,
but
if,
unless.
A
You
would
not
really
understand,
but
it's
too
dangerous
people
the
way
that
life
is
today
everyone's
in
a
hurry
and
they're
not
paying
attention
and
if
you're,
coming
up
that
street
heading
east
in
the
morning,
which
many
people
do
to
cut
through
to
get
to
work
and
school,
the
sun's
in
their
eyes,
and
they
can't
see
anything
there
are
near,
misses
every
week
almost
daily.
So
I'm
I
fully
agree
that
they
need
to
be
put
in.
B
N
Yeah
hi,
this
is
john
maynard
from
thousand
oaks.
I
live
on
columbia.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time.
I
wanted
to
reiterate
and
agree
with
the
previous
comments.
I've
lived
on
columbia
for
about
25
years
and
can
attest
that
the
traffic
has
become
worse
over
the
years
when
I'm
in
the
front
yard.
I
almost
always
see
people
clearly
going
above
the
speed
limit
some
far
above
the
limit.
N
I
would
suggest
that
during
the
pandemic,
the
traffic
has
been
less
than
before.
I
was
kind
of
surprised
that
we
were
doing
the
measurement
at
that
time
and
during
the
collection
time,
I
also
watched
as
people
would
literally
slow
down
before
the
measurement
tubes
or
drive
around
them,
which
would
clearly
impact
the
measurement
for
those
going
above
the
speed
limit.
N
In
addition,
as
mentioned
previously,
people
that
live
in
the
neighborhoods
would
skew
the
results.
You
know
if
I'm
going
five
miles
an
hour
as
clay
mentioned
previously,
people
pick
up
a
lot
of
speed
coming
up
the
hill
and
you
have
the
blind
corner
with
a
lot
of
parked
cars.
So
it's
just
dangerous
to
back
up
out
of
the
driveway.
We
have
three
schools
within
just
a
couple
of
blocks:
it's
clearly
a
pass
through
with
people
wanting
to
avoid
jans.
N
B
B
I
I
I
think
we
had
something
like
1982
and
then
adopted
a
formal
policy
in
1983,
and
we
followed
that
policy
for
a
number
of
years
and
finally
revised
it
in
2009,
which
is
the
current
policy.
In
that
policy.
We
introduced
the
idea
of
the
speed,
speed
cushions
or
in
the
resolution
it's
referred
to
as
speed
lumps,
because
what
happened
is
from
83
to
2009.
I
But
yes,
there
are
26
streets
and
thousand
oaks
that
do
have
either
speed,
humps
or
speed
cushions.
I
don't
think
there's
many
in
this
area
near
colombia.
So
maybe
the
gentleman
that
you
know
lives
out
of
town-
he
doesn't
see
them
when
he
comes
visits
is
because
they're
not
near
his
neighborhood
you're,
going
to
find
them
in
newbury
park
area
you're
also
going
to
find
them
in
central
thousand
oaks.
But
yes,
we
have
26
streets.
I
The
other
thing
to
consider
about
columbia,
road
is
that
there's
a
comment
made
that
there
should
only
be
about
530
vehicles
per
day
on
that
street.
One
thing
you
have
to
remember
about
columbia
is
that
it
is
a
residential,
collector
street.
It
is
connected
to
moore
park,
road,
which
is
a
major
street.
So
you
know
it's
it's
somewhat
of
a
residential
collector
street,
so
it
feeds
and
funnels
additional
streets
in
the
neighborhood.
The
map
I
showed
earlier
it
has
a
direct
connection
to
triangle
street
burleson.
I
It
was
the
other
street
kevin
street,
but
you
know
that
that
type
of
street
it's
going
to
have
more
vehicles
than
say,
for
example,
triangle.
You
know
that
street
probably
only
has
most
of
the
traffic
on
that
street
is
going
to
be.
People
who
live
on
that
street
versus
the
way
colombia
is
set
up.
Is
that
columbia
feeds
and
funnels
all
the
other
interior
streets
in
that
neighborhood
there
is.
It
was
also
common
about
the
same
pascals
that
contributes
a
thousand
vehicles
per
day
to
colombia
to
colombia.
I
Well,
you
know
our
data
doesn't
show
that
you
know
the
volume
is.
Is
that
high
I
mean
if
it
did
feed
a
thousand
vehicles
onto
columbia.
The
numbers
would
have
reflected
it,
but
that
back
driveway
that
feeds
off
of
colombia.
That's
near
moorpark
road,
at
least
the
times.
I've
been
there
that
gate
is
closed
throughout
the
day
and
only
open
during
the
the
morning,
and
then
the
afternoon
dismissal
periods
of
that
school.
I
Okay,
there
was
also
a
question
that
some
of
the
where
the
speed
counters
were
placed,
some
of
the
data
should
be
should
be
thrown
out
because
the
speeds
were
too
slow.
I
mean
we
consider
all
speeds
whatever
that
our
machines
record,
we
feel
that's
representative
of
the
entire
street.
You
know
someone's
coming
out
of
the
driveway
or
entering
their
driveway
they're
going
to
have
to
slow
down.
I
So
you
know
we
want
to
make
sure
the
data
represents
those
types
of
activities,
because
that's
a
typical
type
of
action,
you're
going
to
see
on
a
residential
street-
we're
not
just
going
to
you
know,
leave
the
data
that
we
feel
is
the
highest
we're
going
to
present
everything.
You
know
you
know
our
data
is
transparent.
We
don't,
you
know,
manipulate
the
data
after
we
see
it,
we
present
it.
You
know
how
how
we
received
it.
I
A
comment
was
also
made
about
how
the
road
tubes,
the
rubber
tubes,
that
we
use
to
collect
the
the
data
that
skews
the
data
causes
people
to
slow
down.
You
know
we
don't
see
it
that
way.
We
maybe,
for
example,
the
first
time
someone
drives
down
the
street.
They
they
may
be
noticing
it,
but
you
know
our
machines
are
out
there.
24
7..
I
believe
we
had
it
out
there
for
about
two
weeks,
so
the
the
data
was
pretty
consistent,
the
entire
time.
I
If,
if
those
hoses
were
effective
in
slowing
speeds
down,
I
think
we
would
have
a
program
other
than
speed
humps.
You
know
we
probably
would
be
installing
you
know
rubber
hoses
throughout
the
city
to
slow
down
traffic,
but
you
know
I
don't
know.
I
don't
think
that
that's
gonna
cause
people
to
slow
down
significantly.
M
I
I
The
only
way
we
could
measure
you
know
what
true
shortcutting
is
is
we
would
have
to
have
people
positioned
at
both
ends
of
the
street
record,
license
plate
numbers
and
then
match
them
up
and
see.
You
know
at
point
a
did.
They
come
in
off
moore
park
road
and
make
their
way
to
lynn
road,
and
then
vice
versa.
I
L
L
Two
of
them
were
kind
of
clear
in
that
they
were
in
places
to
where
general
flow
of
the
traffic
in
on
on
columbia
was
set
west,
burlington
and
north
of
triangle,
a
significant
number,
while
not
75
percent,
a
significant
number
was
well
over
was
over
the
speed
limit,
but
the
third
one
I'm
looking
at
is
the
one
between
moore
park
and
burlson.
Is
that
one
that
is
effectively
like
within
a
lot
of
the
intersection
of
moore
park?
Road.
I
I
Well,
okay,
yeah
the
likelihood
of
that
location.
Meeting
the
speed
criteria
is
very
low
because
the
segment
is
very
short:
you're
either
yeah,
like
you
mentioned,
if
you're
going
eastbound
you're
coming
to
a
stop
or
if
you're
going
westbound,
you
just
enter
the
street,
so
you're
not
gaining
speed
that
location.
We
did
not
study
the
first
time
back
in
the
february
2020
evaluation
for
this
one.
The
petitioners
requested
that
we
set
up
a
machine
there,
so
we
we
followed
their
requests
and
and
presented
the
data
in
the
report.
Okay,.
L
And
so
we
might
get
a
number
of
traffic
trips
that
kind
of
come
through
there
because
of
the
confluence
of
a
number
of
different
feeders
into
that
particular
segment
of
the
road.
So
that
makes
sense.
So
my
second
question,
then,
is
just
given
the
resolution.
What
staffs
staff
is
sort
of
required
to
provide
to
the
traffic
commission
there's
criteria?
That's
there.
These
are
set
by
city
council
resolution,
and
so
that's
what
you're
you're
basing
that
data
to
be
collected
off
of
that
to
provide
the
recommendation
to
the
traffic
commission.
L
I
B
Correct
okay,
I
I
would
like
to
go
just
a
little
further
on
that,
commissioner
fairest
for
one
second
sure
and
ask
either
staff
or
our
city
attorney
representative,
mr
womack,
to
weigh
in
I
have
been,
as
as
you
have,
as
well,
because
of
the
various
commissions
that
you've
said.
I've
been
trained
under
the
understanding
that
city
council
makes
laws
and
resolutions
same
as
a
law
in
this
case
or
a
guideline,
and
that
we
have
the
right
to
follow
it,
but
we
can
at
best.
B
If
we
want
to
go
outside
of
the
resolution,
we
cannot
make
the
decision
to
do
that.
We
can
make
a
recommendation
for
council
to
revisit
the
resolution
in
regards
to
this
particular
case.
At
least
that's
what
I've
understood
in
my
history
with
the
commission
is
my
understanding,
staff
or
attorney
womack.
A
B
A
I
Yeah
and
if
I
can
expand
on
that
on
page
five
of
the
staff
report,
there's
a
listing
of
10
examples
in
the
city
where
we've
approved
or
the
council
has
approved
speed
humps,
where
the
criteria
was
not
met.
So
we
threw
that
in
there
in
the
report,
so
that
you're
aware
that
you
know
those
are
examples
where
the
criteria
was
not
fully
met
yet
approved
by
council,
and
there
were
special
circumstances
cited
that
the
resolution
does
not
take
into
consideration.
I
L
B
I
don't
know
if
proactive
is
the
right
word,
but
I'm
going
to
use
that
word
for
right
now,
proactive
steps
that
could
a
garner
more
information
be
have
the
result
of
slowing
down
traffic
without
putting
in
speed
humps.
As
we
know
it
may
be
somewhat
temporary.
But
when
there's
an
officer
out
there
it
does
cost
slowing
down.
We
do
know
we
have
learned
over
time
and
I'm
not
going
to
give
the
percentage,
but
there
is
a
significantly
high
percentage
better
than
60
of
speeders
in
any
neighborhood
live
in
that
neighborhood.
B
So
we
should
keep
that
in
mind
and
one
of
the
main
reasons
for
the
warrants
being
set
where
they
are
is
so
that
people
use
the
warrants
to
weigh
in.
I
have
lived
on
a
street
where
I
don't
ever
remember
the
traffic
being
near
the
speed
limit,
but
most
of
the
people
that
were
going
over
the
speed
limit
wouldn't
agree
to
a
warrant
anyway.
L
J
J
You
know
warrant
considerations,
and
you
know
I
I
thank
you
staff
for
being
so
thorough
as
to
listing
what
were
those
considerations
that
went
into
the
installation
and
my
one
question
comes
back
to
clay.
Let
me
see
one
of
our
speakers.
I
believe
it
was
clay
mentioned
the
the
cut
through
and
the
shortcut
we've.
We've
discussed
it
very
briefly,
and
I
think
mr
mashiko
you
mentioned
shortcutting
from
moorpark
through
lynn.
J
I
Yeah
yeah
so
well,
basically
shortcutting.
The
definition
we
follow
is
using
a
residential
street
to
bypass
to
arterial
street.
So
you
know
any
any
trip
that
starts
from
moorpark
road
goes
into
colombia
and
then,
ultimately,
for
example,
they
get
back
out
to
jans.
Yes,
that
is
a
that
is
a
shortcut
trip.
J
Okay,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
from
my
understanding
there
wasn't
a
specific
definition
or
a
yardage
requirement
or
something
I
was.
I
was
missing
there.
You
know
I
would
love
to
know.
I
I
guess,
coming
back
to
the
resolution,
then
number
two
and
section
a2
traffic
volume-
I
mean
it
mentions
the
city
engineer
and
you
know,
basically
reduces
the
2000
threshold
down
to
1500.
If
two
of
the
conditions
are
met
by
this,
you
know
as
determined
by
the
city
engineer,
and
it
mentions
shortcutting.
J
I
guess
what
where
would
a?
Where
would
some
of
our
public
speakers
go
to
get
some
of
this
key
information
to
determine
or
where
would
we
go
as
commissioners
to
to
get
some
of
this
key
information
to
determine
whether
an
exception
may
exist
out
there,
where
we
could
make
a
recommendation
that
you
know
kind
of
falls
along
the
the
table
provided
in
on
pages
five
and
six
I
mean
we
don't
know
shortcutting,
for
instance,
but
I
see
shortcutting
as
being
a
consideration
on
a
number
of
these
tables.
J
I
mean
we
have
an
idea
at
least
of
traffic
from
saint
pascal's.
To
me,
I
I
I
just
wish
there
may
be
more
information.
I
think
I'm
just
throwing
that
out
there
for
discussion.
I
wish
there's
a
little
bit
more
information
specifically
on
the
shortcutting.
I
can
kind
of
see
how
shortcutting
could
be
a
factor
here
and
I
guess
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that.
I
I
really
was
kind
of.
I
can
see
it.
J
B
Thank
you
before
moving
on
staff,
I'm
I'm
very
confused
on
the
discussion
about
shortcutting
and
I'll.
Tell
you
why,
when
we're
measuring
traffic
in
an
area
the
measurements
that
I'm
familiar
with,
do
not
judge
directly
where
the
car
that's
going
over,
that
tube
is
coming
from.
They
just
judge
that
it's
coming
over
the
tube,
so
whether
you're
in
the
neighborhood,
whether
you're
cut
short
cutting
or
whatever
the
car
count,
would
be
the
great
equalizer.
Would
it
not,
or
am
I
misunderstanding,
something
and
and
by
all
means.
Please
straighten
me
out.
I
I
A
residential
street
is
generally
generally
designed
for
up
to
2500
vehicles
per
day,
and
so
you
know
if
the
volume
volumes
that
we're
collecting
are
say,
2,
000
or
more
then,
maybe
suspect
you
know,
there's
a
potential
for
shortcutting
in
the
neighborhood,
for
example,
montgomery
road,
that's
the
street
between
jans
and
and
flores.
There's
the
adult
school
that
cuts
through
that
neighborhood.
I
I
believe
that
volume
was
over
3
500
vehicles
per
day.
So
when
that
area
was
evaluated,
you
know
there's
3,
500,
that's
quite
a
bit
of
trips
and
that's
you
know
for
that
type
of
neighborhood.
It
seems
a
little
bit
high
and
that's
you
know
would
be
an
example
of
where
you
know
we
would
get
suspicious.
When
we
see
volumes
of
that
of
that
magnitude.
You
know
we
would
suspect
there
is
probably
some
kind
of
shortcutting
activity,
but
you
know
I
think
every
residential
street
has
some
level
of
shortcut.
I
This
requirement
here
in
the
resolution
says
35
of
the
total
volume.
So
if
there's
shortcutting,
you
know
it
would
show
itself
throughout
the
day
24
hours
a
day
when
we
do
our
measurements
because
of
the
manpower
required,
we
usually
just
go
out
during
the
peak
hours,
because
those
are
the
busiest
times.
You
know
after
that,
for
example,
this
street
you
know
traffic
is,
is
rather
light.
I
You
know,
I
think
every
street's
gonna
have
those
morning
and
afternoon
peaks
because
of
school
or
people
going
to
work
or
people
coming
home
this
street,
you
know
it
seems
fairly
comparable
to
most
other
residential
streets.
In
the
city
I
mean
it
is
a
collector
residential
street.
The
speeds
that
we
collected
up
to
34
mile
per
hour,
that's
pretty
typical.
I
M
I
guess
to
add
a
little
bit
more
to
that
response.
To
you
know
the
commissioner
was
asking
where
that
data
would
be.
You
know
located
or
summarized
that
and
if
there
were
circumstances
like
no
sidewalks
in
the
community
and
no
street
lights
or
these
type
of
factors,
we
would
have
provided
that
in
the
report
we
would
have
included
those
likes,
but
we,
but
not
having
those
unusual
circumstances
either
they
weren't
included.
B
B
B
All
right
to
get
things
started
I'll,
throw
a
motion
out
there
and
that
motion
would
be
to
accept
staff's
recommendation
based
upon
the
majority
of
warrants
not
accomplished.
I
do
believe
that
their
recommendation
and
I'm
just
looking
for
their
specific
words
right
now,
so
I
sort
of
spread
rather
quickly
through
my
ipad.
K
Thank
you.
Thank
you
chair,
so
I
mean
with
respect
to
the
question
of
have
we
met
the
required
warrants.
I
mean
I'll
just
be
honest
and
tell
you
here's
the
problem
that
I'm
having
a
strict
construction
of
this
resolution
that
we're
looking
at
is
that
it
it
presents
guidelines
for
installation
of
speed,
speed,
humps,
and
it
clearly
does
not
talk
about
speed,
humps
and
speed
lumps
as
being
the
same
device.
In
fact,
it
refers
to
speed
lumps
as
alternatives
to
speed
bumps.
K
K
K
I
I
do.
I
I'm
I'm
listening
to
the
testimony
from
the
people
who
live
on
this
street
and
I
don't
think
they're.
You
know
conjuring
up
stories
about
what
they're
experiencing.
I
think
it's
a
real
problem,
and
so
I
mean
my
inclination
is-
and
my
recommendation
is-
that
some
sort
of
speed
cushion
be
installed
on
the
street
to
mitigate
what
I'm
hearing
and
what
I'm
you
know
perceiving
to
be
a
speed
problem
on
the
street,
and
that's
that's
where
I'm
having
some
real
difficulty
here.
B
Let
me
see
if
I
can
get
some
help
for
that.
If
I
could
get
mr
womack
to
answer
two
questions
for
me
or
for
us
number
one.
This
is
the
first
time
I've
ever
heard
of
an
exclusion
that
the
resolution
is
not
written
properly
and
it
only
includes
speed
humps
rather
than
speed,
cushions
or
speed
lumps
or
or
speed
bumps
we've
had
over
the
years
speed,
humps
speed
lumps
speed
cushions
that
I'm
aware
of
okay,
all
are.
B
It
was
my
understanding
up
until
your
question
tonight
that
those
were
all
considered
the
same
type
of
solution
to
the
problem.
The
reason
that
we
came
up
with
speed
cushions
speed
lumps
they're
synonymous
from
what
I
understand
is
strictly
for
the
convenience
and
at
the
suggestion
of
public
safety.
There
is
no
other
reason.
There
is
no
difference
between
those
two.
I
don't
know
that
anybody
would
recommend
speed,
push
the
old-fashioned,
speed
hump
any
longer.
B
We
can
only
make
a
recommendation
to
kick
this
over
to
council.
That's
what
I
understood
him
to
say
when
asked
me
answering
commissioner
fletcher's
question
now
I'm
looking
at
the
screen.
Oh
there,
you
are,
mr
woman.
I
see
you
now
so
if
you
could
answer
those
two
questions.
First
of
all
is
the
ordinance
in
essence
not
applicable
here,
because
it
doesn't
specific,
specifically
call
out
the
replacement
for
or
the
alternative
to
a
speed
bump
and
then.
Secondly,
we
cannot
make
a
decision
on
whether
or
not
to
put
in
speed
humps.
A
Well,
certainly,
the
second
question
ties
into
the
first
in
that
staff
is
given
a
great
deal
of
deference
in
their
interpretation
of
the
city
code,
and
in
this
case
that
is
their
interpretation,
that
you've
heard
from
several
members
of
staff
tonight
that,
whether
it's
a
speed,
hump,
a
speed
lump
or
a
speed,
cushion
they're
all
devices
that
are
contemplated
within
that
resolution
to
the
second.
The
second
part
of
that
question
is
this:
the
commission
cannot
unilaterally
approve
the
installation
of
a
design
that
is
not
meet
our
warrants.
A
K
No,
I
just
I
just
want
to
point
out
the
ambiguity
that
I
perceive
to
be
in
this
resolution
and
the
fact
that
it's,
mr
machico
told
us
earlier
this
evening
that
the
nomenclature
was
speed.
Lump
equals
speed
cushion,
even
if
I
accept
that
is
true-
that
the
speed
lump
is
still
spoken
about
in
this
resolution
is
something
different
than
a
speed
hump.
So
it
is
not
clear
to
me
that
this
resolution
applies
to
the
speed,
cushions
or
speed
lumps.
However,
you
want
to
phrase
it
that
we
are
speaking
about
tonight.
B
Okay,
other
commissioners,
questions.
Do
we
have
any
commissioner?
Well
do
we
have
anyone
besides,
commissioner
pleasure
with
a
question
mr
pledger,
do
you
have
oh
okay
hold
on
a
second
we're
going
to
go
back
to
commissioner
faris,
then
to
commissioner
fletcher?
If
we
have
no
other
questions,
mr
fairness,.
L
Sure,
yes,
I
and
I'm
I
share
the
same
concerns
as
vice
chair
email
on
this
in
in
in
the
reading
of
the
resolution
and
there's
there's
more
than
just
the
speed
hump
and
lump
we.
We
have
called
it
in
this
hearing
a
speed,
hump,
a
speed,
lump
a
speed
bump
and
a
speed,
cushion
kind
of
all
all
in
one
and
just
colloquially
that
that
may
very
well
be
the
problem
of
of
do
they
all
mean
the
same
thing
or
do
they
not
mean
the
same
thing
as
contemplated
by
the
resolution?
L
I
do
read
the
resolution.
Similarly,
as
vice
chair
email,
in
which
it
talks
specifically
about
criteria
to
determine
whether
a
speed
hump
should
be
approved,
and
the
exception
is
says,
if
the
emergency
response
time
is
increased
by
more
than
15
seconds
per
thousand
linear
feet,
then
speed
lumps
in
lieu
of
speed,
humps
shall
be
installed
and
then
later
it
says,
speed
hunter
speed
launch
shall
be
installed
in
conformance
with
design
guidelines,
so
it
describes
once
you
go
that
route.
This
is
how
you
should
actually
approve
it.
L
If
we
actually
look
at
section
c
in
the
meetings,
it
says,
a
meeting
of
the
traffic
commission
or
council
shall
be
shall
be
called
for
this
and
and
that
an
appeal
process
is
there?
If
staff
denied
the
request,
there's
a
number
of
things
here
in
which
it's
not
clear.
Like
basically
do
we
have
discretion,
and
you
know
we
can
with
the
under
the
appeal
process,
it
was
said
the
lead
petitioner
can
submit
written
appeal
to
staff
for
review
by
the
traffic
commission.
L
B
I
Yeah
that
appeal
process,
I
believe,
that's
written
not
to
appeal
staff's
recommendation.
That
is
to
appeal
the
you
know.
Whatever
recommendation
is
rendered
by
the
traffic
commission
this
evening,
if
they
want
to
appeal
that
recommendation
and
go
to
council,
this
resolution
gives
them
the
opportunity
to.
You
know,
submit
a
formal
appeal
and
then
and
there's,
I
believe,
there's
a
fee
involved
and
then
they
would
be
heard
by
the
city
council.
L
There
that
is
the
second
part
of
section
c
part
two,
but
the
first
part
specifically
says
if
the
eligibility
criteria
are
not
satisfied.
The
speed
hump
request
shall
be
denied
by
staff
in
favor
of
alternative
measures
which
may
be
altered.
The
lead
petitioner
may
re
submit
written
appeal
to
staff
of
a
review
by
the
traffic
commission
within
14
days.
So
that's
that's
just
reading
the
resolution
in
either
case
a
little
bit.
B
Differently,
commissioner
ferris,
I
understand
it
where,
if
we
render
a
decision
any
decision,
the
lead
petitioner
can
file
his
appeal
with
staff.
Staff's
responsibility,
then,
is
to
get
it
on
the
council
agenda.
That's
the
way.
I
understood
it
and
we're
both
reading
the
same
thing
and
understanding
two
different
things.
I'm
also
basing
this,
which
is
not
to
influence
anyone's
opinion
at
all.
I'm
also
basing
this
on
precedent
of
almost
a
dozen
years.
B
B
Every
time
we've
had
a
speed,
hump
com
or
our
speed,
hump
lump
or
bump
a
speed
control
vehicle
that
is
stationary
to
the
ground
made
out
of
asphalt.
It
has
always
come
to
us
the
same
way
and
it's
always
been
read
the
same
way.
So
at
the
very
least,
precedent
may
or
may
not
guide
a
particular
commissioner,
and
I'm
not
a
big
fan
of
precedent.
B
I'll
tell
you
that
right
up
front,
I
believe
every
every
in
every
situation
is
is
on
its
own,
but
again-
and
I
I
hate
to
be
having
staff
and
mr
womack
work
so
hard
tonight,
but
I
would
go
back
to
them
and
say
the
way
I
read
it
is
the
lead
petitioner
would
appeal
to
staff
if
he
does
not
like
or
she
does
not
like
the
planning
commission's
decision
and
then
that
appeal
process
goes
to
city
council
guided
by
staff.
Is
that
correct
or
incorrect?
A
I
M
A
Right,
commissioner
ferris,
I
think
what
what
we
have
effectively
done
in
many
of
these
cases,
including
tonight
is
we've
brought
this
matter
to
the
commission
as
a
as
a
way
of
to
appeal
the
the
residents
that
are
desirous
of
this.
This
the
speed
hunt-
and
that's
that's
really
the
first
that
first
step
there
and
we
we've
done
that
and
jim.
L
Completely
fine,
so
so
I
again,
I
share
those
concerns
for
those.
For
those
reasons,
I
am
completely
convinced
that
the
criterion
has
not
been
meant
for
a
speed
hump
as
considered
for
what
a
speed
hump
actually
is,
but
a
speed
lump
is
definitely
something
that
the
fact
that
it's
in
the
ordinance
means
it's
something
that's
different
than
a
speed
hump
and
the
question
then,
is
like
what
should
that
be
something
that
is
considered
whether
by
us
or
by
the
council,
to
address
the
concerns
here.
L
No
one
could
reasonably
expect
275
percent
of
the
traffic
to
exceed
25
miles
an
hour
for
that
location,
and
so
for
that
reason
it
would,
I
think,
there's
additional
circumstances
here
in
which
we
ought
to
at
least
be
creative
on
how
to
do
I,
if
the
commission,
if
the
commission
does
not
want
to
go
down
the
road
of
the
speed
cushion.
I
do
think
that
the
chair's
motion
is
a
reasonable
next
step
of
doing
that,
but
I
do
want
to
voice
the
concerns
of
the
commission.
B
B
Would
it
not
have
to
be
agendized
if
the
commission
wanted
to
discuss
and
vote
on
sending
a
suggestion
to
council
that
they
rewrite
or
add
more
specificity
to
their
resolution?
We
are.
That
is
not
on
our
agenda
tonight.
What
is
on
our
agenda
tonight
is
this
item,
mr
womack.
If
we
wanted
to
go
ahead,
I'm
sorry.
A
B
Okay,
so
then
I
would
just
amend
my
motion
to
stay
as
it
is
with
an
amendment
that
suggests
staff
asks
works
with
city
council
and
petition
council
or
whatever
they
do
appeals
to
council
to
add
specificity
to
the
definition
of
the
three
speed
control
devices
that
are
that
exist
today.
That
may
not
have
been
specifically
called
out
in
the
resolution
that
was
signed
by
the
late
mayor,
glancy,
okay,
we
are
I'm
being
a
little
facetious
here,
but
we're
delving
into
approving
the
oak
small
again
tonight.
B
K
J
Mr
mr
chair,
can
I
just
jump
in
just
real
quick.
I
have
one
sentence
comment
before
we
get
to
the
vote.
I
I
like
your
amendment.
I
just
I
would
go
a
little
bit
broader
in
my
recommendation,
a
little
bit
broader
on
my
thoughts
of
of
giving
the
giving
the
resolution
a
facelift.
I
think
it
needs
a
little
bit
more
than
just
that
and
I'll
I'm
staffing.
I
don't
want
internet.
B
J
B
N
C
C
Any
person
wishing
to
appeal
a
decision
of
the
traffic
commission
shall
file
a
written
appeal
and
pay
an
approval
fee
with
the
city
clerk
department
within
14
calendar
days
of
the
decision.
The
matter
will
be
referred
to
the
city
council
at
the
earliest,
reasonable
and
available
dates.
The
plc
will
be
refunded
only
if
the
city
council
overturns
the
traffic
commission's
decision.
B
B
E
A
E
2022
citywide
pavement
project,
and
just
before
I
begin,
I
want
to
mention
that
I'll
address
a
couple
of
the
comments
that
were
made
during
the
public
comment
period.
At
the
end
of
the
presentation
staff
identified
three
road
segments
which
have
excess
road
capacity,
where
we
have
an
opportunity
to
implement
potential
lane
reductions
after
the
streets
are
resurfaced.
E
E
For
the
2022
payment
project,
the
three
street
segments
that
were
identified
as
candidates
for
potential
free
striping
are
shown
here
on
the
map.
Number
one
is
hillcrest
drive
between
lynn,
road
and
moore
park.
Road
number
two
reno
road
between
portrait,
road
and
maurice
drive
number
three
via
las
cruces
between
orchard
road
to
lin
road.
Oh,
I
will
briefly
describe
each
road
segment
and
proposed
restriping.
E
The
public
was
asked
to
provide
input
on
the
proposal
to
reduce
the
number
of
travel
lanes
from
four
lanes
to
two
lanes.
The
one
travel
lane
is
moved
away
from
the
center
median
and
a
buffer
zone
is
created
on
both
sides
of
the
travel
lane
with
the
buffer
lane
painted
between
the
travel
lane
and
the
bike
lane.
E
Public
outreach
efforts
to
get
public
input
on
all
roads,
stripe,
free,
striping
proposals
included
eight
platforms
listed
here.
The
city
website
included
the
project
descriptions,
a
feedback
form
the
video
recordings
of
the
two
public
zoom
meetings
for
reno
and
hillcrest
drive
and
city
staff,
contact,
information
residents
and
businesses
adjacent
to
hoka's
drive
arena
road
received
letters
in
the
mail
informing
them
of
striping
proposals.
E
Meeting
portable
message
signs
were
installed
on
both
reno
road
and
hillcrest
drive
with
information
about
the
public
meetings.
Zoom
meetings
were
held
for
two
of
the
projects
and
stanley.
There
were
28
different
people
at
both
meetings
and
17
people
spoke
at
each
meeting.
The
seven
dos
fantos
ranch
hoa
managers
received
both
phone
calls
and
emails.
Asking
them
to
share
the
restriping
concepts
with
their
hoa
boards
can
provide
feedback
to
me
following
the
meetings.
E
Here's
a
pie
chart
pie,
chart
that
summarizes
the
feedback
received
for
the
hillcrest
driver's
striping.
We've
received
331
public
comments
with
69
of
the
comments
in
support
of
the
restriping.
Although
the
majority
of
the
feedback
supports
restriping
at
a
bike,
lane
have
removed
a
travel
lane.
Staff
is
in
the
process
of
seeking
additional
feedback
from
the
oaks
and
jans
malls
management
groups,
as
well
as
other
businesses.
Therefore,
a
recommendation
for
hocus
dry
will
require
additional
time
to
develop
before
it's
presented
to
the
city
council
in
december.
E
As
a
week,
we
have
received
395
public
comments
for
marina
road.
As
of
today,
we
have
received
an
additional
30
emails
and
four
phone
calls.
The
majority
of
the
emails
and
phone
calls
that
have
been
received
since
last
week,
which
were
from
residents
who
were
not
supporting
the
restriping,
although
at
this
time,
60
overall
63
percent
of
the
public
comments
are
in
support
of
the
restriping
on
radio
wrote
so
that
63
percent
takes
into
account
the
new
information
we've
received
in
the
last
week.
E
This
pie
chart
shows
the
majority
of
the
public
64
that
provided
input
did
not
support
the
restriping
of
via
las
priestes.
The
public
comments
focused
on
the
fact
that
there
is
already
a
bike
lane
on
vs
las
cruces.
Reducing
the
number
of
travel
lanes
is
believed
to
increase
traffic
congestion
and
by
restriping
from
four
lanes
to
two
lanes
will
create
hazards
for
trucks
and
heavy
vehicles,
because
drivers
will
be
forced
to
illegally
pass
to
move
around
slow
moving
vehicles.
E
We
received
a
letter
from
aldia
stating
that
they
also
do
not
support
the
free
striping,
but
it
was
received
too
late
to
include
in
the
agenda
packet.
The
chart
also
does
not
include
the
discussions
held
on
the
dos
fantas
ranch
website
next
door,
which
a
city
does
not
have
access
to
since
it's
a
neighborhood
discussion
group.
Although
anecdotally,
I
did
hear
that
there
was
a
very
lively
discussion
with
little
support
for
the
restriping.
E
Based
on
the
public
input
received,
staff
is
not
recommending
reducing
the
number
of
lanes,
but
is
recommending
narrowing
each
of
the
travel
lanes
from
12
feet
to
11
feet
in
width
and
create
a
buffer
lane
between
the
automobile
lane
and
the
bike
lane.
As
shown
in
the
concept
drawing
the
number
of
lanes
will
remain
the
same
and
the
buffer
will
create
an
increased
separation
between
the
bicyclists
and
the
vehicles.
E
And
this
concludes
my
presentation
and
regarding
some
of
the
comments
that
were
made
during
the
public
comment
period,
one
of
one
of
them
was
information
that
was
shared
what
was
found
on
next
door,
since
I
don't
have
any
the
ability
to
look
at
the
information
they
were
talking
about.
That
was
a
next
door.
I
can't
really
address
that
comment
and
then
the
other
comment
I
wanted
to
address
was
the
question.
If
we
did
any
studies,
there
are
traffic
volume,
studies
or
bike
studies,
and
the
answer
is
no
we've
not.
M
M
The
design
capacity
for
that
type
of
roadway
is
36
000
vehicles
per
day
and
it's
18
000
vehicles
per
day
if
it
were
to
be
reduced
to
one
lane
in
each
direction,
which
is
so
that's
18,
000
vehicles
per
day
capacity
and
the
current
volumes
right
now,
the
highest
volume
using
the
conservative
numbers
was
roughly
11
000.
Currently,
so
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
item.
B
P
E
I'm
not
sure
which,
like
I
think,
okay,
I
think
what
it
was
is
that
when
the
we
have
changeable
message
signs
up
on
the
two
roads,
reno
and
hillcrest,
that
told
people
what
the
city's
website
was
to
go
to
right
to
sign
up
for
the
meetings
and
people
were
able
to
do
that.
So
that
might
have
been.
They
were
struggling
to
try
to
sign
up
for
the
meetings
and,
yes,
a
couple
of
people
beforehand,
but
other
people
worked
around
it.
They
either
called
staff
or
they
figured
out
how
to
do
it.
E
C
B
B
L
Just
have
to
have
my
mic
on
and
then
I
will
always
show
up
as
the
one.
That's
that's
on
your
zone,
so
so
yeah.
So
I
guess,
what's
the
what's
the
you
you
pretty
well
got
to
it.
Ultimately,
the
the
decision
is
to
receive
the
report.
Are
we
in
a
position
to
provide
commentary
for
staff
to
incorporate
or
or
offer
as
part
of
whatever
their
recommendation
is
to
to
council?
At
this
point,.
M
L
L
L
You
know
it.
We
ought
to
probably
consider
those
those
type
of
comments,
whether
positive
or
negative,
on
any
proposal,
because
it
required
that
energy
to
be
able
to
craft
it
and
spend
the
time
and
provide
it
to
the
city.
I
wouldn't
want
an
email
to
be
swamped
by
10
online
clicks
and
that
it
seemed
to
be
discounted
if
we
just
treat
them
all
as
equal
and
say
they're
69,
because
it
effectively
is
all
the
input
to
the
online
input
tools.
L
E
So
the
way
we're
looking
at
this
staff's
job
is
not
to
aggregate
the
comments
like
what
I
want
to
say
like
right
now.
Your
comment
is
as
valid
as
everyone
that's
come
forward
and
I
wouldn't
no
offense
elevate.
Your
comment
higher
than
somebody
who
emailed
me
or
called
me
we're
collecting
comments
from
the
public,
and
so
that's
that's
prevented
me
from
creating
any
bias
on
my
part.
It's
so
ever
we
we
had
all
these
different
platforms
to
try
to
get
the
most
comprehensive
with
the
understanding.
None
of
it
is
really
statistically
valid.
E
L
Yeah-
and
I
I
don't-
I
don't
disagree
with
that-
I
think
the
the
the
the
best
way
is
the
way
it's
been
done
without
the
total
public
comments,
total
percentage
and
support.
If
we
just
say
this
is
how
many
we
received
in
phone
calls
and
their
percent.
This
is
how
many
an
email.
This
is
how
many
in
online
input
tools,
then
those
receiving
it
can
judge,
which
ones
are
most
important
without
the
oh.
L
P
Just
have
a
question
about
well,
I
think,
first
of
all,
it's
smart
that
to
wait
to
get
the
feedback
from
the
oaks
mall
and
jans
road,
because
I
think
there's
a
lot
going
on.
There's
a
lot
potentially
planned
for
that
area.
So
I
think
that's
a
necessity
as
far
as
raino
road,
I
think
it's
dangerous
to
go
down
to
one
lane.
Have
we
seen
like
potentially
like.
If
somebody
tries
to
pass
somebody
on
the
right
side,
then
they
would
be
going
into
that
bike
lane.
P
A
lot
of
comments
about
that.
They
don't
see
bikes
in
in
large
volume
or
at
all
on
that
that
street,
which
I
mean
could
be
argued
that
it's
because
there
are
no
bike
lanes
but
and
then
there's
some
fear
of
spilling
out
into
the
side
streets.
Then.
As
far
as
last
breezes
someone
made
mention-
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
true-
maybe
someone
could
clarify
so
the
developer
of
dos
vientos
paid
for
a
light
at
las
priestes
and
del
prado
is
that
is
that
true.
E
Actually,
in
response
to
that
that
rez
and
I
communicate
back
to
that-
isn't
any
part
of
this
project
at
all.
This
is
a
road
pavement
project
that
we're
looking
at
restriping,
so
that
isn't
even
something
we're
discussing
on
the
other
side,
the
the
developer
in
those
fans
did
everything
they
were
conditionally
required
to
do
so
that
we're
not
even
discussing
that.
M
J
Fletcher.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I'll,
keep
my
comments.
Short.
I
had
the
opportunity
to
sit
in
on
some
of
the
zoom
meetings
done
by
staff
and
I
really
did
appreciate
and
continue
to
appreciate
the
outreach
that
was
done
on
these
possible
restriping.
You
have
a
lot
of
information
and-
and
I
appreciate
that
you
kept
the
window
open
beyond
that
august
september
threshold.
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
piggyback
off
of
what
commissioner
hayek
mentioned
with
regard
to
hillcrest.
J
That's
obviously
such
a
important
commercial
road
for
the
city,
so
certainly
soliciting
more
feedback
from
the
oaks
mall
and
jans
mall,
I
think,
is
the
right
path
forward,
but
I'll
I'll
just
keep
it
that.
I
really
do
appreciate
all
the
outreach,
because
that's
it's
a
lot
of
man-hours
and
a
lot
of
time.
So
thank
you
very
much.
M
And
I,
if
I
may,
I
just
wanted
to
respond.
Also
john,
the
commissioner
hayek
on
the
item
regarding
you
know:
bike
lane
dream
our
background.
A
few
of
us
right
now
have
a
there's
similar
situations
elsewhere
in
the
city
where
we
have
a
you
know,
a
buffered
bike
lane
or
a
bike
lane
a
vehicle
could
potentially
try
to
you
know
jump
over
into,
but
we
haven't
seen
that
type
of
activity
or
you
know
illegal
driving,
behavior
to
any
of
those
locations
that
hasn't
been
reported
to
us
in
any
way.
M
So
that's
been
a
positive
in
terms
of
fire
truck,
and
a
few
of
those
comments
are
brought
up
earlier.
Having
this
striped
off
area
for
bikes
does
allow,
in
a
case
of
a
emergency
for
either
fire
or
other
vehicles
that
wouldn't
then
allow
them
to
circumnavigate
and
get
around
traffic.
You
know,
as
opposed
to
if
there
was
a
two
solid
lanes
of
vehicles
and
they
have
no
way
of
getting
through
so.
P
Emergency
response
are
there
on
the
rain
or
roadside.
Thank
you
for
the
clarifications
on
the
renault
road.
Are
there
left
turn?
Are
there
areas
on
that
stretch,
that
someone
would
have
to
make
a
left
turn
and
then
would
would
that
create
cars
waiting
for
that
other
the
car
to
make
a
left
turn
causing
a
car
to
go
to
the
right
of
them
into
the
bike
lane
to
go
around
them,
while
they're
waiting
to
make
that
left
turn.
E
There's
left
turn
pockets.
That,
for
example,
goes
in
the
shopping
center.
That's
provided
so
it
the
answer.
Is
people
will
have
to
be
more
patient?
It
will
slow
traffic
down
if
there's
more
cars
out
there,
but
where
we
see
I
could
say
I
do
this
for
a
living
industry.
It's
kind
of
the
industry
standard
people
don't
have
road
rage
against
cyclists.
They
don't
do
illegal
movements
on
an
ongoing
basis.
They
they
just
the
public,
will
abide
by
the
traffic.
I
P
M
B
Q
Okay,
I
will
be
providing
an
update
on
the
thousand
explode
pedestrian
crossing
project
before
I
discuss
the
current
state
of
the
project.
Let
me
first
begin
with
a
brief
overview.
Doesn't
boulevard
pedestrian
crossing
project
is
located
on
thousand
knocks
boulevard
between
live
oak
street
and
oak
bee
drive?
Q
The
project
is
sprouted
from
a
quarter
pedestrian
study
conducted
by
terrorists
in
2018
the
corner,
pedestrians
safety
study
was
conducted
on
thousands
boulevard
from
canelo's
school
road
to
skyline
drive
adjacent
to
the
downtown
area.
The
study
found
that
three
vehicle
versus
pedestrian
and
one
vehicle
versus
bicycle
collisions
occurred
within
the
limits
of
the
study.
Q
In
all
cases,
the
vehicle
driver
failed
to
yield
to
pedestrians
in
the
crosswalk
in
consideration
of
the
corridor.
Steady
findings,
a
thousandth,
boulevard,
pedestrian
crossing
project
aims
to
improve
pedestrian
safety
at
the
intersection
of
oakview
drive
and
thousands
boulevard
and
live
oak
street
and
thousands
of
explorer.
Q
This
is
in
this
is
the
ethan
eastbound
view
of
the
crosswalk,
which
is
a
four-legged
intersection.
You
can
see.
There
is
a
slight
curve
in
the
road
that
impairs
visibility
for
motorists
approaching
the
intersection,
as
well
as
the
crosswalk
distance,
that
that's
required
for
the
pedestrian
to
get
across
the
street,
equals
a
long
wait
time
for
a
vehicle
to
yield
for
a
pedestrian.
Q
The
current
crossing
does,
however,
have
pedestrian
activated
rapid
flashing
beacons
to
the
side
of
the
road.
It
has
in-ground
pavement
lights
located
on
the
cross-rock
markings,
as
well
as
all
the
other
necessary
advanced
warnings
to
notify
vehicles
that
a
pedestrian
is
potentially
crossing
the
intersection.
Q
This
is
a
constant
plan
of
the
project
which
proposes
a
mid-lock
split,
pedestrian
crossover,
design
with
curb
extensions,
a
refuge
island
and
an
overhead
rapid
rectangular
flashing
beacon,
the
location
of
the
proposed
mid
block
pedestrian
crossover
design
was
chosen
to
one
improve
pedestrian
visibility
to
the
motorist.
Since
it's
located
in
a
section
of
runway
that
has
less
curvature
number
two.
It
reduces
the
number
of
conflict
points
as
compared
to
intersections
and
three.
It
provides
better
integration
with
the
existing
driveways
and
minimizes
right-of-way
impacts.
Q
Looking
closer
to
the
midbuck
crossing,
an
additional
benefit
to
the
proposed
mid-block
design
is
that
it
would
allow
pedestrians
or
cyclists
to
face
the
direction
of
the
traffic
before
crossing.
The
roadway
also
was
the
phase
crossing
of
the
of
the
split
pedestrian
crossover
design.
Vehicular
delays
as
pedestrians
are
crossing.
The
roadway
are
also
reduced
as
both
directions.
The
traffics
do
not
necessarily
need
to
yield
to
pedestrians
for
the
entire
width
of
the
broadway,
illustrated
here
with
the
green
arrow.
Q
Q
City
staff
has
conducted,
it
has
conducted
extensive
public
outreach
to
residents
and
the
neighboring
businesses
that
would
potentially
be
affected
by
the
removal
of
the
crosswalks
and
the
addition
of
the
mid
block
crossing.
A
complete
summary
of
the
various
changes
that
will
need
to
be
implemented
by
this
project
are
provided
in
staff
report.
Q
B
K
P
M
These
renderings
help
to
kind
of
you
know,
depict
what
we're
intending
to
construct,
as
well
as
having
built
the
other
three
crosswalks
on
thousands
boulevards
over
the
last
18
to
24
months,
which
have
been
operating
pretty.
You
know
advantageously
for
the
community
and
hasn't
any
negative
feedback
about
those,
so
it
was
just
more
of
a
getting
up
getting
acclimated
with
really
what
we
were
talking
about
here.
M
In
the
case
of
the
24-hour
fitness,
there
is
some
returning
restrictions
that
are
they're
going
to
encounter
from
one
of
their
driveways.
They
have
two
fully
functioning
driveways
right
now.
One
of
them
will
continue
to
be
fully
functioning.
The
other
one
is
going
to
be
limited.
The
left
turns
will
be
limited
out
of
it,
but
after
more
discussions
with
them,
they
were
completely
on
board.
P
B
B
L
Do
medians
and
things
that
are
in
the
middle
of
it
actually
start
to
obstruct
that
ability
and
there's
always
been
something
every
time
you
start
going
down
this
road,
everybody
kind
of
claws
back,
which
is
then
why
we
have
pavement
in
the
in
in
the
left-hand
median.
I
I
find
this
this
design
actually
ingenious
for
that
to
to
deal
with
that.
I
it
sounds
like
that
there
was.
L
It
creates
one
challenge
for
a
driveway
for
24
hour
fitness,
but
through
some
consultation
there
looked
like
they're,
okay
with
it,
but
I
I
really
do
find
that
to
be
a
really
creative
way
of
of
addressing
that.
I
do
think
it'll
address
the
pedestrian
safety
issues
and
really
nice
to
see
it.
So
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
those
comments
were
on
the
record
for
that.
K
Yeah,
just
you
know
tack
on
to
what
commissioner
farah
said.
I
think
that
this
is
a
great
idea
where
you
eliminate
two
crosswalks
just
for
the
flow
of
traffic
and
also
minimizing
locations
where
people
are
in
the
street.
So
when
you
can
eliminate
two
and
build
one
and
build
it
better
than
the
other
two.
I
think
that's
that's
a
great
idea,
so
my
commendations
to
the
staff.
P
M
Q
Typically,
you
kind
of
suck
it
to
the
same
situation
as
a
regular
crosswalk,
so
the
staggering
kind
of
does
the
whole
splitting
for
you,
that's
one,
but
the
other
main
benefit
is
that
you're
facing
traffic
as
you're
crossing,
so
it
forces
you
to
face
the
direction
of
traffic
before
you
cross
the
second
leg.
So
that's
the
added
benefit
there
to
make
sure
that
everyone's
yielding
to
you
as
opposed
to
giving
this
false
sense
of
security.
When
you
push
a
button,
you
start
crossing
from
one
end.
Q
You
have
no
idea
that
the
the
vehicle
on
the
other
side
of
the
road
has
noticed
that
you're
turning
across
the
street.
So
that's
really
the
the
main
benefit.
The
other
other
main
benefit,
too,
is
all
the
constraints
that
we
had
in
the
on
the
bullet
board.
This
split
phase
kind
of
staggered
crosswalk
helped
with
that
as
well.
J
Happy
to
make
a
motion,
mr
chair,
commissioner,
pletcher.
Please
would
make
a
motion
to
number
one
receive
report.
Receive
public
input,
provide
comments
as
appropriate
and
number
two
to
recommend
approval
of
the
final
design
concept
and
request
staff
to
seek
city
council
authorization
to
advise
the
project
for
construction
bids
upon
caltrans
approval
and
final
design.
B
L
J
B
B
I
Yes,
that
that
one,
we
basically
just
listed
some
of
the
items
that
folks
have
looked
at
in
the
past.
It
was
the
bridgegate
street
striping
proposal
were
you
know,
concerns
of
speeding
and
we
said
we'd
take
new
measurements.
After
the
school
year
began,
we
did
set
up
some
machines,
and
so
we
are
collecting
or
have
collected
new
data,
we're
in
the
process
of
breaking
that
down
and
taking
a
look
at
it.
If
there's
anything
significant,
we'll,
let
you
know
the
public
outreach
plan
that
we
talked
about
in
july.
I
I
was
presented
this
evening.
That's
the
second
item
listed
here
on
this
fire
fire
actions
and
then
the
third
action
is
wendy
drive
in
charlotte
street.
If
any
of
you
or
any
of
the
commissioners
have
driven
down
that
section
of
roadway
at
charlotte
and
wendy,
we
now
have
an
active
pedestrian
crossing
which,
with
the
rectangular
rapid
flashing
lights,
very
similar
to
what
you
see
on
thousand
oaks
boulevard
at
the
you
know
a
few
crossing
points.
We
also
have
advanced
warning
beacons
before
you
get
to
the
crosswalk.
I
So
when
the
pedestrian
pushes
the
button
to
cross
the
street,
the
lights
at
the
crosswalk
will
begin
flashing
as
well
as
advanced
beacons,
a
couple
hundred
feet
before
the
intersection
to
provide
advanced
warning
that
someone
has
activated
the
device
and
is
either
crossing
or
wishes
to
cross
the
street.
So
that
concludes
that
item.
B
I
B
B
B
B
Oh
just
to
get
everybody's
feelings:
okay,
real
quickly!
Is
there
anybody
opposed
to
that?
Let's
start
there
all
right.
Is
there
anybody
that
absolutely
wants
to
make
a
speech
about
being
in
favor
of
it?
That's
wonderful!
Okay!
Now
we'll
go
to
commissioner
comments
about
just
about
anything.
Does
anybody
want
to
make
any
comments?
B
Okay,
I
just
have
a
couple
of
comments.
I
will
start
off
by
saying
that
there
is
no
joy
in
mudville,
as
we
are
now
losing
nine
to
two
in
the
ninth
inning
and
it
is
the
bottom
of
the
ninth
inning,
so
we
only
have
to
get
seven
runs
to
force
it
to
an
extended
game,
but
it
it
doesn't.
Look
good!
That's
number
one
number
two.
I
want
to
comment
on
a
couple
of
staff
members.
B
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
the
thoroughness
of
the
information
brought
before
us
tonight.
I
really
appreciate
it
makes
it
much
easier
to
be
able
to
to
view
a
situation,
but
I
want
to
thank
you
and
it's
a
shame.
It
looks
like
kathy
is
gone
already,
but
I
want
to
compliment
kathy
and
our
sergeant,
because
we
had
a
7
30
meeting
at
sycamore
canyon
this
past
week
to
take
a
look
at
what
appeared
to
be
a
traffic
problem
usually
usually
caused
by
parents.
B
But
it
was
a
complaint
from
someone
who
lived
in
the
condos
there
in
dos
bientos
and
it
turned
out
that,
while
there
didn't
appear
to
be
much
of
a
problem
whatsoever,
staff
working
with
the
police
and
the
principal
there
at
sycamore
canyon
came
up
with
a
solution
to
enhance
the
ability
for
traffic
to
flow
around
that
school
even
better.
And
I
really
appreciated
staff
again
going
above
and
beyond
to
get
that
done
so
that
commissioner
lima.
M
O
B
B
Excellent
well
in
garlic,
even
though
yeah
yeah-
and
he
was
there
early
and
worked
it
out
with
chappie
and
they
did
a
beautiful
job,
and
I
and
I
know
that
the
school
is
happy
and
we're
happy,
don't
know
that
we're
going
to
make
the
residents
happy,
but
it's
it
was
only
one
resident
that
was
complaining,
and
so
we
addressed
the
complaint.
There
was
no
traffic
issue.