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A
D
E
A
F
I
would
like
to
just
give
a
brief
introduction
to
what's
going
on
here
and
then
you
can
open
the
public
hearing
and
let
Jeff
do
some
further
explanation.
But
we're
actually
really
excited
to
have
a
potential
development
occurring
here
on
the
extension
of
26th
Street
in
Watertown,
which
is
across
from
Culver
and.
F
The
developers
in
kind
of
a
hurry
and
this
property
hasn't
been
planted
yet
and
needs
to
make
some
decisions
about
how
the
development
goes
forward.
So
we're
trying
to
facilitate
a
quick
turnaround
on
the
review
by
doing
a
couple
of
things.
The
the
road
right-of-way
for
26th
Street
was
included
in
the
previously
approved
preliminary
plan
for
East
Park,
but
this
land
wasn't
included
and
whether
or
not
to
ask
for
a
preliminary
plan
just
for
basically
a
lot
was
decision.
F
The
city
made
just
because
this
area
is
somewhat
controversial
and
we
get
lots
of
concerns
from
neighbors
about
what's
going
on,
and
so
we
decided
to
just
follow
through
of
our
and
do
a
preliminary
plan
which
includes
a
public
hearing
so
that
the
neighbors
can
participate
in
that
public
process
and
we
have
a
record
of
it.
So
that's
what
we're
doing
here
today
and
so
I'll.
Just
let
if
you
want
to
open
the
public
hearing,
then
have
Jeff
start
with.
A
C
Yeah
I'll
just
give
a
quick
history.
We
knew
we
know
that
this
property
was
recently
annexed
and
zoned
that
went
through
you
guys
and
the
City
Council,
and
now
the
petitioner
is
requesting
a
preliminary
plan
approval
and
with
all
preliminary
plans,
we
have
a
design
review.
Team
meeting
and
I
would
like
to
read
the
comments
that
the
design
review
team
had.
C
F
F
Next
to
the
Culver
property
in
this
vicinity,
but
to
get
a
fire
hydrant
on
the
north
side
of
highway
212
would
require
boring
underneath
the
highway,
which
costs
one
hundred
fifty
two
hundred
and
eighty
dollars
a
foot,
this
property
abuts
a
water
main
already,
there's
a
water
main
in
highway
212,
so
municipal
utilities
doesn't
feel
the
need
to
extend
a
Mane
to
serve
it.
However,
if
they
need
a
hydrant
to
meet
their
fire
protection
needs,
they
could
put
one
in
at
their
own
expense,
but
that's
would
involve
boring
across
the
highway
and.
G
G
G
F
A
H
F
H
A
F
E
C
J
A
J
J
J
I
E
One
hydrogen
for
one
building
and
we
can
you
know,
there's
areas
where
we
we
know
that
hydrants
are
coming
in
and
going
in.
So
you
know
we're
not
gonna
be
a
post
development.
It's
just
you
know
things
to
think
of.
If,
if
faith
never
shows
up,
then
you
know,
the
fire
department
does
have
an
issue
with
this,
but
if
it
does
is
going
to
happen
which
we
see
for
you
know
it's
a
great
place
to
have,
you
know
a
business
put
in.
E
A
For
Sara
and
Jeff,
we
have
a
preliminary
plan,
an
outdated
preliminary
plan
for
8
the
Avenue
in
that
preliminary
plan,
when
it
got
what,
if
it,
if,
in
fact
it
got
to
the
master
planning
stage,
that
main
would
be
put
in
in
eighth
Avenue
correct
the
water
main,
which
would
feed
the
fire
hydrants
for
that
area.
Correct.
F
A
H
J
H
A
A
Us
about
the
process
of
that,
let's
say
the
right
away
got
plaited
and
it
included
eighth
Avenue
in
general,
and
this
is
more
for
our
own
information
on
all
developments
once
that
right
away
is
plaited.
Do
you
guys
immediately
go
in
and
put
it
in,
or
do
you
kind
of
wait
till
there's
development
happening.
A
G
F
A
So,
eventually
that
that
lot
will
be
serviced
from
city,
water,
conventional
city,
water
from
one
direction
or
the
other.
We
just
don't
know
what,
because
we
haven't
got
a
plat
and
it
hasn't
gone
through
the
planning
process.
We
don't
have
the
the
right
away,
guarantee,
isn't
there
and
you're
not
willing
to
make
an
investment
there
until
you
get
that
yeah.
H
F
K
F
L
H
F
H
F
F
That
normally
the
developers
drive
that
with
and
I
know,
they're
interested
in
development
out
here
we
just.
We
have
basically
have
three
property
owners
in
this
vicinity,
they're
all
working
with
us
and
engineering,
and
maybe
rod-
should
come
up
and
talk
about
what
he
knows
because
I
I,
don't
I,
haven't
seen
anything
that
has
been
presented.
I'm.
G
A
A
The
current
thing
we're
on
right
now
is:
can
you
do
a
preliminary
plan
on
one
lot,
which
is
kind
of
odd?
Well,
we
really
need
is
a
master
plan
and
we've
done
this
with
this
is
probably
the
third
or
fourth
time
in
six
months
with
different
projects
throughout
the
city
we
said
wow.
It
really
make
a
lot
easier
if
we
had
a
master
plan,
but
what
we're
asking
is
three
different
owners
with
three
different
properties
who
none
of
know?
M
But
we
have
instructions
to
work
on
a
street
or
eight
to
Avenue
there
right
now
we're
preparing
that
right
now
to
present
to
hoping
by
your
next
meeting
here
next
month,
then
Morrises
owned
this
property,
here's,
the
Morris
family,
there's
three
three
or
four
family
members
that
owned
it
and
one
of
the
things
that's
going
to
be
taking
accountant.
That
plan
is
extending
26
put
a
little
curve
in
here,
so
that
isn't
a
straight
shot
through
and
then
connect
up
with
Willow
Creek
Drive.
M
Now
Morrison
has
indicated
they
they
like
that,
but
they
really
haven't
seen
that
plan
yet
or
approved
it,
but
but
that's
on
the
drawing
board
right
now
so
that
that
would
probably
be
one
of
the
things
that
would
be
brought
up
through
the
your
concept
plan
process.
Now,
as
far
as
a
connection
here
between
these
two,
whether
it
be
here
or
up
here,
it
could
be
anywhere
in
this
corridor,
but
yet
we've
got
to
have
enough
room
in
there.
So
that
would
be
a
develop.
A
lot
develop
a
lot
because
we
got
the
same
situation.
M
We've
got
here.
An
undersized
lot
had
been
nice.
If
that
law
was
just
a
hair,
a
bit
bigger,
so
we
wouldn't
have
to
be
asking
for
a
variance
on
it,
but
this
that's
what
it
is
so,
but
right
now,
Morris's
haven't
said
what
they'd
like
to
see
coming
through
here,
because
there's
been
two
or
three
different
concepts
on
that.
M
This
approach
here
is
the
one
that
has
been
the
d-o-t
has
disallowed
and
it
has
to
be
taken
out
so
and
that's
what
has
gone
to
the
Supreme
Court
and
they've
ruled
against
the
Morris
family
on
that.
So
so
your
access
points
will
be
here
on
twenty
three,
twenty
six
and
twenty
ninth
and
you
and
you'll
notice
in
your
packet.
M
There,
too,
is
that
one
of
the
things
that
we're
gonna
have
to
do
is
do
a
traffic
impact
study
of
that
area
to
see
what's
going
to
happen
here,
but
I
think
that
impact
is
probably
going
to
be
probably
not
much
different
than
it
is
to.
You
can
see
some
increase,
but
I
think
what
you're
going
to
see
the
major
increases
up
here
on
Willow
Creek
Drive,
because
the
traffic
counts
on
Willow
Creek,
Drive,
I,
checked
on
that
yesterday
is
higher
than
up
in
this
area
than
it
is
down
here
in
this
area
into
twelve.
H
M
H
If
you
go
farther
west
there's
an
access
going
from
the
south
and
then
you
go
lock
block
and
a
half
farther
east
there's
one
coming
in
from
the
north.
Are
we
gonna
run?
In
the
same
thing
we
did
on
19th
Street,
where
we
have
an
access,
every
half
a
block.
We
don't
have
anything
that
matches
up
I
mean
eventually
you're
going
to
have
roads
going
north
off,
we'll
all
Creek
Drive.
Is
there
any
continuity
there
right.
M
H
On
on
the
north
side,
if
you
have
a
business
approach
here,
you
can
put
frontage
roads
up
there
and
have
you
know
you
probably
will
end
up
with
an
intersection
there,
someplace
and
I?
Don't
know
if
you're
gonna
put
a
traffic
light
on
there
or
not.
It
would
be
nice
if
you
have
an
intersection
1
intersection,
rather
than
have
to
worry
about
traffic
coming
in
from
the
south,
driving
a
little
farther
having
traffic
coming
in
from
the
north
on
a
45
mile
an
hour
road,
you.
H
H
If
you
develop
up
here
on
the
north
side,
or
is
that
I
assumed
you're
going
to
probably
end
up
with
some
kind
of
a
frontage
road
up
here
and
serve
those
businesses,
and
where
are
you
going
to
come
in
and
tie
it
into
Willow
Creek
Drive
at
or
is
there
any
kind
of
continuity?
So
these
roads
are
going
to
match
up
or
are
they
going
to
be
hopscotch?
Like
we've
been
doing
lately,
yeah.
M
M
F
H
H
F
F
Here
this,
this
is
mostly
floodplain
this
this
one's
gonna
be
a
challenge
to
develop.
I
think
it
could
be,
but
I'd
probably
have
a
shared
driveway
and
the
the
access
points
are
limited
by
the
overlay
district.
We
won't
be
having
accesses
any
closer
than
400
feet,
whether
it's
a
driveway
or
a
road
and
either
way
400
feet
will
eliminate
any
concern
about
traffic
movement,
conflicts.
F
H
Just
you
know
we're
too
far
north
for
this
discussion
that
we're
here,
but
down
in
this
circle
or
a
loop
of
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
with
the
three
different
property
owners.
It'd
make
it
a
lot
easier
on
our
side
of
the
fence
if
they
get
together
and
give
us
a
master
plan.
So
we
could
kind
of
plan
this.
So
it
doesn't
look
like
it
was
done
in
the
dark.
F
A
When
you
so,
when
you
first
came
up,
I
said
what
are
the
chances
they're
getting
three
owners
out
there
to
sit
down
together
and
put
together
a
master
plan,
who's
gonna
pay
for
it,
who's,
gonna,
organize
it.
It
wouldn't
be
nice
if
we
knew
exactly
where
all
the
roads
were,
the
lot
sizes
and
soon
as
it's
plotted,
municipal
utilities
could
start
digging
and
then
it
would
develop.
M
D
M
M
M
D
K
A
That
way
had
agreed
to
a
more
stringent
regulation
to
protect
their
own
investments,
most
importantly
and
man
right
away
the
first
one
comes
out,
you
know
and
I
look
and
go
a
person
owns
one
piece
of
property.
He
wants
to
do
something
with
it.
We
should
take
a
look
at
it
and
see
what
we
can
do,
but
the
danger
of
it
is
what,
if
8th
Avenue
is
never
plotted
there?
How
would
it
affect
this
property?
Maybe
it
wouldn't
affect
it
at
all?
But
you
know
when
we
look
at
the
over
the
the
overview
of
it.
A
I
can
see
where
26th
is
going
to
go
somewhere
sometime,
I'd,
agree
to
that.
The
downside
of
it
is
if
they
show
us
that
the
26th
goes
all
the
way
over
to
Willow
Creek
I.
Think
that's
first,
to
have
an
extension.
I
call
it
now.
We're
gonna
have
consumed
concerns
on
the
size
of
that
road,
and
it's
gonna
carry
a
pretty
heavy
load.
A
F
A
M
M
M
A
F
What
we're
proposing,
or
what
we've
seen
on
the
plans
and
for
26th
Street
is
narrower
lanes
and
I
I
want
to
first
make
it
clear
that
the
preliminary
plan
for
this
site
does
not
include
26th
Street.
That
was
included
in
the
preliminary
plan
for
East
Park.
So
the
preliminary
plan
for
this
property
really
doesn't
have
a
road,
although
they
need
a
road
for
access
to
their
site,
so
they
are
entangled
with
each
other.
So.
M
F
We're
gonna
use
the
coho
show
that
section
crossing
the
culvert,
the
the
plans
show
ten
and
a
half
foot
lanes
and
in
discussions
with
the
Department
of
Transportation,
they
they
haven't,
issued
an
access
permit
yet
or
a
change
of
access.
Permit,
that's
farther
down
in
here,
but
it.
It
is
germane
to
this
item,
because
semis
have
to
come
off
of
highway
212
and
turn
in
a
ten
and
a
half
foot
lane
and
cry
that
culvert
and
they
are
wondering
if
they
don't
think
that
the
culvert
is
wide
enough.
F
M
A
M
M
M
M
He
didn't
really
have
a
problem
with
that.
We
also
have.
He
was
asking
the
distance
from
the
back
of
the
curb
to
the
what
they
call
the
Claire's
own
obstacle,
which
would
be
the
opening
in
the
Box,
not
the
backside
of
the
parapet.
So
we
got
about
two
and
a
half
feet
in
there
to
make
that
in
there,
behind
the
curb,
so
the
barrier,
the
curb
is
gonna
go
across
that
box,
so
we're.
M
A
M
F
When
it
was
done,
the
the
council
has
approved
a
participation
on
the
cost
within
the
state
right-of-way
up
to
a
maximum
amount,
and
if
the
cost
of
the
culvert
exceeded
the
maximum
amount,
then
it
would
be
the
adjacent
property
owners
that
would
pay
for
the
excess,
but
the
culvert
is
within
the
state
right-of-way.
So
if,
if
it
cost
less,
which
is
unlikely
I,
what
do
you
think
it
would
cost?
Do
you
have
an
estimate,
I
think
the
maximum
was
ten
or
twenty
thousand,
that
the
council
was
willing
to
put
toward
this,
and
probably.
F
A
M
A
So
we
may
come
back
to
that.
Let's
go
on
to
number
four
minimum
11
foot
Road
lanes.
We
we
talked
about
that
on
number
three
number
five
sidewalks
aren't
possible
on
that
culvert.
There
would
have
to
be
some
if
we
were
gonna
make
in
and
when
I
was
out
there
I
look
you'd
like
you
got
sidewalks
on
the
on
the
south
side
of
the
road
you
like
everything
to
match
up.
We
would
possibly
have
to
put
some
sort
of
a
foot
bridge
of
some
sort.
M
F
A
A
F
Which
is
partially
on
the
property,
but
the
building
is
here.
The
the
the
subdivision
ordinance
requires
this
to
be
addressed,
whether
there's
a
building
in
it
or
not.
We
need
this
is
an
azo
n--,
which
has
null
elevations
determined
and
the
elevations
need
to
be
determined
by
engineering
analysis.
We.
M
M
A
F
Preliminary
plan
does
show
sixty
and
there's
a
conflict
with
the
landscaping
ordinance
that
we
have
not
to
be
confused
with
the
overlay
district,
which
also
has
landscaping
requirements.
The
landscaping
requirements
for
the
overlay
district
apply
to
the
frontage
on
highway
212,
but
the
the
frontage
on
26th
Street
is
covered
by
the
city's
landscape
ordinance,
which
requires
15
feet
of
Greenway
between
the
back
of
the
curb
and
the
property
line,
and
that
can't
be
physically
impossible
to
meet
that
in
the
proposed
Road
section
of
311
foot
lanes
with
curb
and
gutter
and
sidewalk.
F
There's
I
think
it
leaves
5.8
feet
for
a
tree
planting
area
and
needs
to
be
at
least
eight.
So
it's
not
a
huge
change,
but
the
the
minimum
width
for
this
sized
road
for
right-of-way
to
include
the
landscaping
all
within
them
right
away,
where
it's
supposed
to
be
would
be
like
sixty
seven
feet
of
right-of-way.
We
you
could,
as
a
an
alternative
from
requiring
a
wider
right-of-way,
require
property
owners
to
dedicate
an
easement
so
that
the
sidewalk
would
go
on
their
property,
leaving
enough
Greenway
for
a
tree
to
be
planted.
A
Crossing
out
and
to
me
this
is
kind
of
a
sensitive
area,
because
we
are
in
the
gateway,
overlay,
Protection
District,
where
we
said
we
it
is
you
come
into
town.
We
want
it
to
look
a
certain
way
when
it
comes
to
this
one,
we're
about
three
feet
short
from
the
back
of
the
curb
to
the
property
line,
to
put
our
sidewalk
and
trees
and
everything
in
so
that
would
require
for.
A
Four
point
two
feet
so
well.
We
want
what
we
want
it
to
do.
When
we
drive
down
the
road.
Most
people
can't
see
the
property
lines
in
the
right
of
ways.
We
see
what
it
looks
like
aesthetically,
so
my
question
you
rot
is:
if
we
approve
something,
that's
four
point
two
feet
short
of
what
we
generally
want.
A
F
O
M
A
So
the
question
to
you
is:
we
can
aesthetically
make
it
look
like.
We
can't
see
that
there's
a
shortage,
a
shortcoming
there
whatsoever
I
mean
we
can
by
moving
to
where
the
sidewalk
goes
and
where
the
trees
go.
They
might
be
on
your
property
instead
of
the
right
away,
but
the
normal
person's
not
going
to
notice.
O
D
M
F
F
M
O
F
M
F
It's
not
all
within
the
right-of-way,
though,
and
the
point
here
is
that
if
you
want
it
in
the
right
away,
you
know
it
it's
one.
Our
ordinance
says
it
can
come
off
private
property
which
this
developers
doing,
but
for
the
rest
of
it,
as
is
it.
How
do
you
want
to
move
forward
is
something
maybe
you
can
address
later.
A
Number
nine
was
a
drainage
utility
plan
that
60
area.
Let
me
go
back
one
second,
the
66
foot
right
away
versus
60
foot,
which
was
on
the
old
preliminary
plan,
whether
we
go
60
or
6.
Six
we're
gonna
have
the
same
size,
11
foot
lanes
in
those
roads,
so
we're
not,
but
by
using
by
approving
a
preliminary
plan
with
less
right
away,
we're
not
allowing
for
a
smaller
road
to
be
put
in
there.
H
H
N
F
A
A
F
That's
just
a
matter
of
adjusting
their
elevations
on
their
pavement.
One
thing
I
might
point
out,
though,
this
land
currently
undeveloped
drains
toward
highway
212
and
according
to
the
drainage
plan.
Most
of
it
still
will
drain
to
highway
212,
but
the
back
part
of
it
will
drain
to
the
west
and
the
north
part
of
it
will
drain
to
the
north.
So
there's
little
bits
of
it
that
are
diverted
a
little
bit
and
it's
maybe
inconsequential,
but.
M
A
M
B
A
A
M
A
H
M
M
A
Your
foot
you've
worked.
You
work
with
the
DoD
regularly
and
understand
how
that
14
preliminary
plan
for
East
Park,
26th
Street
was
approved
and
fair
that
that's
something
that
it's
probably
more
of
us
is
that
tell
me
a
little
bit.
Sarah
Co
Hall
came
in
gave
us
a
preliminary
plan
in
2011
from
the
City
Planning
from
from
our
guides.
We
say
you
have
a
preliminary
plan
and
you
have
three
years
to
go
to
master
planning.
A
Last
and
what
happened?
Is
it
didn't
get
flattened
but
they
didn't
plat
it
because
they
didn't
know
what
was
gonna
happen
and
under
the
economic
conditions,
since
2008
moving
forward.
I
can
understand
why
somebody
says
I
don't
want
to
I,
don't
want
to
put
it
in
stone
in
case
I,
get
a
better
offer
on
a
bigger
lot.
F
A
P
A
But
at
this
point
you
still
like
that
original
plan
of
where
8th
avenues
and
I
think,
if
you
can
you
push
that
closer
to
29th.
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
Ethan
ooh
is
kinda,
has
to
be
there
because,
where
it
connects
into
29th,
we
can't
when
I.
First
looked
at
that
I
said,
and
this
is
off
the
subject
what's
in
front
of
us,
is
how
come
that
frontage
road
basic?
Basically,
that's
servicing
those
Lots
on
212
are
accessing
them
from
the
back
and
part
of
the
answer.
A
F
A
This
is
really
their
only
option
to
access
those
is
from
the
back,
so
we
could
possibly
be
rest
assured
that
8th
Avenue
will
come
in
will
connect
on
29th
there
and
hopefully
it'll
connect
on
26
somewhere
near
where
it's
showing
there.
My
guess
is
who
owns
the
who
owns
that
building?
That's
their
word,
Alice
Hanson
construction
is
so
you
own
it.
So
you
could
actually
push
that
road
back.
Another
few
hundred
feet:
eighth
Avenue!
G
A
D
F
A
So
basically,
the
biggest
two
owners
is
Co
horns,
everything
to
the
east
and
part
North
and
Morris
owns
everything
north
and
west,
and
we're
here
trying
to
put
a
put
a
plan
together
for
the
person
who
owns
the
smallest
piece
of
the
land
and
that
that's
the
that's
the
dilemma.
Whereas,
where
we
look
and
go,
how
do
we
keep
everybody
happy?
The
two
big
guys
haven't
moved
forward.
A
F
Could
I
mean
I
was
gonna,
mention
that
at
the
end
of
the
it
has
expired?
How
do
you
want
to
proceed
they're
interested
in
reviewing
it
as
well?
I
mean
they're,
not
against
looking
at
it.
They
they'd
like
to
iron
that
business
out
with
the
landscaping
and
the
lane
widths
I
mean
11
is
kind
of
narrow.
It's
less
expensive
than
1212
is
more
of
a
standard.
It's
a
little
more
spacious,
the
we
could
talk
about
those
things.
A
You
know
we
we're
put
in
this
position,
often
where
we're
retrofitting
something
or
we're
putting
the
cart
before
the
horse
somewhere,
but
we're
also
in
a
spot
where
we
would
like
to
see
some
development
out
there
and
some
movement
and
one
thing
Spurs.
Another
everybody
has
the
same
goal
in
mind:
it's
just.
How
do
we
get
there
and
keep
everybody
happy
I?
Think.
D
O
D
F
F
A
I
could
I
can
highlight
it.
We
all
have
copies
of
it.
They
have
some
issues
with
with
FEMA
drainage,
fire
hydrants
that
we've
talked
about
the
right
away
in
the
protection
of
that
gateway
district
on
212
I.
Think
their
biggest
issue
was
the
request
for
a
5-foot
variance
on
a
setback.
I
think,
because
that
that
does
you
know
in
I,
look
a
tango
yeah.
What
goes
in
out.
There
does
have
an
effect
on
everything
out
there,
but
you
can't
wait
for
everybody
to
develop
all
at
once.
It's
getting
to
the
first
guy.
Q
If
I
may
I'd
like
to
address
eighth
Avenue,
the
city
has
been
in
discussion
with
coho,
so
we
are
anxiously
awaiting
for
them
to
get
this.
This
preliminary
plan
out
there,
because
we
will
be
bringing
this
forward
to
the
city
to
see
if
they
would
entertain
the
idea
of
putting
that
street
in
early
8th
Avenue
and
we're
expecting
that
Sarah,
of
course,
would
be
on
top
of
what
we
need
there.
So
I
think
it
will
spur
development
so
the
sooner
they
can
get
that
done
the
better
and
it
would.
Q
We
understand
getting
the
electrical
and
the
water
and
the
gas
in
there,
so
of
course,
Sarah
and
her
team
would
be
working
on
the
storm
sewers
and
sewers,
and
we
depend
a
lot
on
that
engineering
department.
So
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
that
we
are
anxiously
awaiting
for
something
to
happen
out
here
and
and
anxiously
wanting
them
to
get
this
done.
So
we
can
do
something.
Yeah.
D
And
Sarah,
let
me
and
in
the
process
the
master
plans
mayor
that
you
just
talked
about.
Maybe
just
wait
just
a
second,
that's
so
beneficial
for
us
to
have
now,
but
on
a
developer
side,
a
point
on
side
of
the
coin.
If
you
master
plan
and
file
that
plateau
the
clock
starts
ticking
and
you
can
get
caught
up
into
taxes
and
there
any
real
estate-
and
that
can
be
very
difficult,
but
you
can
still
have
a
master
plan
and
it's
just
on
paper,
but
at
least
everybody
around.
D
You
knows
what
you're
doing
so
when
the
day
comes
that
you
want
to
proceed
with
the
master
plan,
then
you
actually
put
it
into
motion.
So
it
doesn't
tie
your
hands
to
have
a
master
plan
or
doesn't
necessarily
totally
a
hundred
percent
commit
you
that
in
my
corrected
distance
I'm,
just
from
experience,
that's
what
I'm
stating
because
I
know,
there's
a
hesitancy
and
you
can
still
get
your
roads
in
or
you
still
get
your
infrastructure
in.
But
you
can't
sell
anything
off
until
you
file
it
correct.
You.
D
F
A
F
D
But
they
have
a
master
plan,
they
have,
it
all
decided
what
they
want
to
do.
Okay,
it's
all
agreed
on.
It's
gone
everybody's
jump
through
the
hoops
on
it,
but
they
have
lot
for
out
there
that
all
of
a
sudden
somebody
comes
along
and
wants
to
buy.
Okay,
then
they
can
file
that
that
they
can.
They
can
have
an
address
and
so
forth.
They
don't
sell
it
by
legal.
D
F
G
F
And
start
to
put
it
will
you
have
a
preliminary
plan
for
this
whole
area
approved
and
you
wanted
to
plat
for
its
utilities
come
across
one
two,
three
five
and
six.
So
there
has
to
be
a
letter
of
assurance
or
a
development
agreement
to
say
who
is
responsible
for
install
and
who
pays
for
it,
and
that
is
recorded
at
the
same
time
as
the
plat.
D
R
F
F
D
The
health,
the
reason
I'm
bringing
this
up,
the
hesitancy
for
a
developer-
is
have
a
lot
of
ground
here.
A
lot
and
and
I
see
that
I
can
do
lots
of
things
with
it,
but
I
can
also
get
myself
back
into
a
corner.
All
of
a
sudden,
my
goodness
I've
got
a
lot
of
land
here
and
my
taxes
now
all
of
a
sudden
they're
starting
to
come
back
at
me
in
real
estate
and
I,
haven't,
sold
anything
and
you
get
upside
down
real
fast.
K
Q
Wanted
to
address
one
other
little
thing
when
I
don't
know
how
old
radios,
but
he
said
that
this
won't
happen
is
a
lifetime
when
the
three
of
them
would
get
together.
We've
had
really
some
very
good
discussions
with
coho
and
the
Morris
family.
Those
two
are
are
constantly
talking
back
and
forth,
and
that's
the
largest
chunk
of
what
you're
dealing
with
I
think
with
the
third
party.
We
can
try
to
get
them
to
the
table
and
I
think
before
rod
gone
so.
A
As
so
as
we
go
full
circle
back
around,
we
go
through
most
of
what's
there.
What
we're
here
to
do
is
is
approve
or
disapprove
a
preliminary
plan.
I
think
the
one
thing
as
I
look
through
it
seems
like
the
owners
in
the
city
are
in
general
agreement
with
most
all
parts,
the
only
thing
is
probably
gonna.
Hang
most
of
us
up
is
the
fire
protection
and
the
fire
hydrant
side
of
it
and
I
saw
chip
left
rod.
A
S
I'm
with
Lloyd
companies
and
we
represent
the
building
owner
and
the
building
owners
tenant,
which
is
Sherwin
Williams.
It's
probably
most
important
to
understand
on
the
fire
protection
point
of
view
that
this
is.
It
is
a
non
sprinkler
building.
Now,
of
course,
if
there
was
a
sprinkler
there,
we
probably
wouldn't
have
to
worry
about
a
fire
hydrant
anyways,
but
it
is
a
non
sprinkler
building
being
for
a
thousand
square
foot,
that's
an
acceptable
way
to
build
a
building.
More
importantly,
it's
its
type
to
be
non
combustible.
S
All
four
walls
are
CMU
bar
joist
roof
interior
is
metal,
stud
framing
drywall.
You
know
so
you
know
all
non
combustible
components,
so
that
kind
and
I
wish
the
fire
marshal
was
still
here
as
well,
because
I
think
he
would
probably
nod
that
yeah,
that's
probably
what
we
would
want
to
see
in
that
on
that
lot.
S
In
order
for
us
to
be
happy
with
having
a
fire
hydrant
that
was
300
plus
feet
across
the
street,
wanting
to
be
erect
a
$600,000
building
and
then
looking
at
you
know
having
to
throw
another
50
or
60
or
80
or
whatever
it's
gonna,
be
to
pull
the
fire
hydrant
across
the
street
across
212
to
pour
that
over.
That's
not
an
expense.
S
We
really
want
to
bear
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
you
know
the
fire
department
is,
is
okay
on
an
interim
basis
with
you
know,
looking
at
that
that
that
piece,
that's
on
the
south
side
of
212,
as
being
you
know,
kind
of
a
sort
of
a
good
internal
way
to
do
it.
Yeah
they'd
have
to
shut
down
traffic
on
212,
but
but
you
know
that
might
be
might
be
the
interim
the
way
to
do
it,
but
you
know
getting
back
to
the
building
itself.
Non
combustible
construction,
usually
boys,
a
little
bit
better
for
those
scenarios.
G
Well,
you're
up
here,
they
said
that
you
know
we're
gonna
in
the
future
is
necessary
to
put
a
footbridge
across
there.
Are
you
guys,
fine
with
participating
in
that
or
you
know,
because
the
city's
gonna
cover
some
of
that
cost?
The
right
away
doesn't
allow
for
anything
with
the
collar
to
put
a
sidewalk
across
there
for
pedestrians.
We're
gonna
need
to
do
some
sort
of
a
footbridge,
and-
and
are
you
guys
comfortable
with
that?
You.
S
Know
that
I'd
probably
have
to
take
back
to
the
owner
or
the
purchaser
of
a
lot.
You
know
I
assume
that
a
footbridge
if
it
got
put
in
and
was
made
a
was
made
that
the
development
needed
to
take
part
in
it
that
we're
talking
about
you
know
the
whole
development.
Now
we're
talking.
You
know
kind
of
the
three
original
landowners
that
have
been
kind
of
a
the
basis
of
discussion
and
not
just
say,
sherwin-williams
site.
S
I
S
Know
maybe
we
know
we're
the
first
guys
in
we
know
where
we're
we're
asking
for
a
lot
of
things
to
you
know
to
happen
and
and
we're
hoping
to
be
a
little
bit
of
a
catalyst
here.
It's
not
often
where
we
get
very
far
away
from
a
fire,
hydrant
I.
Think
in
my
career
I've
done
it
a
couple
of
times.
You
know
we've
gotten
out
to
three
four
hundred
feet,
and
usually
it's
usually
you
just
kind
of
work
out.
S
A
special
plan
with
a
fire
department
just
means
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
meeting
of
meeting
of
the
minds
you
know
get
together
on
it
and
to
establish
a
protocol.
So
that
way
there
is,
you
know
when
the
bell
rings.
These
guys
know
okay,
we're
going
to
that
address
and
we
know
there's
a
special
consideration.
H
F
F
Think
that's
a
something
that
the
city's
been
thinking
about
quite
a
bit
and
thinking
someday.
There
probably
would
be
a
trail
or
bike
path
and
I
think
we've
been
collecting
commitments
and
we
haven't
been
requiring
sidewalks
along
212
with
the
recent
developments.
But
we
collect
a
commitment
that
if
there's
ever
an
area-wide
pedestrian
path
there
that
the
developers
come
in
to
participate
in
the
waiver.
A
A
H
A
You
know
I
mean
we
had
you
know
our
lane
issue
was
a
big
thing:
fire
protection
and
and
I
think
the
fire
protection
is
a
tough
one.
I
can
understand
a
guy
not
wanting
to
spend
sixty
or
eighty
thousand
dollars
to
get
fire
across
that
you
to
find
out.
You
only
needed
it
for
six
months
until
that
road
was
plaited
and
it
was
put
in,
but
it
could
be
four
years
or
five
years.
A
F
A
F
10
foot
wide
sidewalk
adjacent
to
the
culvert
and
5
foot
same
footing
at
one
pedestrian
path
and
the
the
part
that
we've
waived
in
the
past
is
not
the
part
that
comes
up
to
where
the
future
trail
would
be.
I
mean
this.
This
would
be
different.
We
haven't
had
them
on
the
side
of
the
street,
where
we've
got
this
big
drainage
way.
We
haven't
dealt
with
that
yet
you
could
include
that
in
the
waiver
of
right
to
protest,
if
you
wanted
to
or
not
but
across
the
street.
H
A
A
T
Would
I
was
Sarah
thinking
that
what
if
in
number
three,
the
the
requiring
of
the
ad
a
sidewalk
compliant
ramps
and
US
highway
212
right
away,
that
was
the
one
I
was
looking
at.
What
if
the
d-o-t
said?
No,
not
at
that
location,
we
don't
like
it
there
that
they
I
mean.
Could
that
happen
and
and
then
what?
What
does
that
do
to
this
resolution?
Could
the
d-o-t
say
you
know
we
not
at
that
spot,
because
it's
saying
that
they're
gonna
sign
an
agreement
that
they're
gonna?
Do
it
I'm
just
wondering.
F
F
A
So
there's
a
slight
modification
on
numbers
under
three
instead
of
or
number
four
which
says
required
to
obtain
it
all
Stanton
said
they
should
request
and
comply
with
all
that
are
granted
so
we'll
get
that
off
the
audio
on
this
and
then
John.
You
wanted
to
add
one
thing
on
there
in
regard
to
the
drainage
issue
we
talked
about
earlier.
We
want
the
assurance
that
that
that.
N
H
A
O
F
Foot
was,
in
the
preliminary
plan,
approved
preliminary
plan
that
has
expired,
but
I'm
just
assuming.
We
would
perpetuate
that
because
that's
what
eight
you
know,
the
ABA
is
expected
to
be
that
somebody
in
the
near
future.
Right
now,
the
ad
a
requires
four,
but
the
previously
approved
preliminary
plan
showed
five.
So
I
wrote
five.
If
you're,
okay
with
four,
we
can
change
it
to
four.
It's.
A
D
G
F
G
A
F
K
G
D
F
A
So
if
we
can
get
with
Co
hole
on
it
and
to
validate
that
item
number
for
new
business,
I
would
like
to
make
one
note.
I
know:
we've
been
running
late,
we
got
to
keep
moving
the
DRT
review
team
I'd
like
to
add
a
couple
members
of
the
plan
Commission
on
there
so
they're
there,
and
it
doesn't
need
to
be
someone
the
same
person
every
time
I.
Just
when
there's
a
design
review
team
meeting.
A
A
And
then
that's
not
a
problem.
I
was
just
when
I
saw
that
I
thought.
You
know.
That
would
be
something
kind
of
nice
if
and
it
might
be
where
it
goes
on,
says:
hey.
We
have
a
design
review
team
meeting
on
this
subject.
It
goes
to
everybody
a
couple.
First
couple,
people
that
say
I
can
make
that
meeting
I'm
interested
in
it.
It
helped
us
understand
the
engineering
side
of
it
and
the
city's
concerns
it
was.
A
K
A
S
O
A
O
Right,
thank
you
stated
this
application
for
permit
number
one
five,
nine
to
seven.
Of
course,
this
is
the
same
property
you
just
discussed
within
the
Planning
Commission
applicant
was
submitted
request.
We
construct
a
non-conforming
4,000
square
foot
50
by
80
commercial
building
on
a
twenty
two
thousand
344
square
foot.
Parcels
has
structure
proposed
to
be
constructed,
15
feet
from
the
side,
west
property
line
or
a
minimum
of
20
feet
is
required
and
13.33
grass
boulevard
in
the
east
right
away
where
a
minimum
of
15
is
required.
O
Application
was
denied.
We
send
the
following
orders:
regulations,
2103,
o
to
21100
3:21
6:01
21600
to
staff
finds
this
parcel
is
located
in
the
c3
highway
commercial
district,
as
well
as
the
gt1
gateway
district
overlay
district.
The
purpose
intent
of
which
is
specified
in
2150
401,
is
the
probe.
It
is
a
purpose
in
intent
of
the
water,
cotton
city
council
or
campaign
Commission
to
establish
a
district
with
certain
design
standards
for
property
visible
within
the
designated
quarters
at
key
points
in
the
city.
This
bear
lot
won
almost
one
acre.
O
Twenty
two
thousand
three
hundred
forty
four
square
feet
exceeds
the
middle
Marion,
with
requirements
for
development
in
both
the
c3
than
g1
gateway,
districts,
dude,
and
then
we've
already
discussed
this
already
I
think
you
guys
put
it
in
there
in
your
platting
order
as
requiring
the
sidewalk
hi
Jason
chat.
212
did
that
just
come
is
being
part
of
the
plat
issue,
sir
we're
gonna
discuss
it
as
a
way
right
to
protest
in
this
issuance.
A
O
O
If
you're,
looking
on
your
sheet
from
the
back
of
the
sidewalk
to
the
back
of
the
sidewalk
in
their
parking,
lot,
is
13.33
versus
the
15,
so
it's
1.66
short
now.
The
main
reason
I
was
bringing
up
the
issue
about
the
five
foot
versus
four
foot.
Sidewalk
the
distance
between
the
back
of
the
curb
and
the
existing
sidewalk
at
four
feet
is
six
feet,
which
means
the
interior
landscape
requirements
within
those
areas
that
aren't
adjacent
to
212
or
Willow
Creek.
A
O
Always
been
to
the
fifteen
foot
and
the
13.33
required
green
space
area
with
a
little
cliffhanger
now
of
the
tree
not
being
able
to
meet
the
landscape
requirement
in
the
boulevard
directly
in
front
of
it
because
of
the
sidewalk
going
for
four
to
five
feet,
and
that's
not
five
foot
distance
between
that
curb
in
the
sidewalk
versus
a
six
foot
and
six
foot
is
legal.
So.
K
A
When
this,
when
they,
when
this
land
from
here
all
the
way
back,
the
first
avenue
extension
was
proposed,
the
owners
had
owned
those
that
land
agreed
to
agreed
and
requested
that
we
put
it
in
a
gateway,
overlay,
Protection,
District,
I.
Think
probably
just
myself
and
mr.
Arnold
were
around
in
those
days.
Can
you
highlight
the
overlay
protection
district
as
what
the
difference
is,
what
their
requirements
are
in
that
district
that
are
different
than
our
normal
c3
zoning
district.
O
Within
basically
anything
that's
adjacent
the
1st
Avenue
north
and
212
does
have
a
greater
tree
replacement.
It's
140
feet
versus
one
for
50
feet.
It's
got
a
the
bigger
Boulevard
requirement
for
the
Crayola,
which
is
basically
8-foot
going
in
there.
They
have
got
restricted
entrances
like
they've,
disgusted
the
Planning
Commission,
not
closer
than
400
feet
for
sure
driveways
building.
A
N
U
B
U
U
L
O
O
O
That
is
great
okay
from
what
was
sighted
previously
yep,
and
then
the
distance
we're
talking
about
is
the
back
of
the
curb
here
in
the
back
of
the
curb.
There
is
thirteen
point
three
three
on
this
one
versus
the
15-foot
required.
So
it's
one
point
six
seven
feet
less
of
what
it
would
have
been
before
and
again.
The
only
setback
we're
talking
about
is
in
the
15
feet
on
this
side
versus
the
20
off
of
the
backyard
to
the
west.
A
What
John
and
Dennis
had
a
question
on
the
sidewalk
we
said:
did
we?
Actually?
You
know
the
overlay
protection
are
the
preliminary
plants
at
a
5
foot,
sidewalk
they're,
the
Lots
north
of
this
are
not
in
the
overlay
district
requirement.
In
a
5
foot,
sidewalk
they'll
have
a
four
foot
sidewalk
correct.
O
H
A
A
A
When
we,
when
we
grant
variances
it's
it's
generally,
due
to
to
an
uncommon
occurrence,
its
topography,
its
slope,
it's
an
pie
shaped
lot.
This
is
a
perfectly
shaped
lot.
It's
20,000
square
feet
the
minimum.
It's
not
a
non-conforming
lot,
a
non-conforming
lot.
What
are
we
10,000
on
nc3
but
we're
it's
not
a
non-conforming
lot.
There's
nothing
non-conforming
about
this
lot
other
than
the
fact
that
you
want
to
put
a
bigger
building
and
parking
lot
on
there
than
the
lot
can
seemingly
carry
and
I.
Think
that's
that's
my
assumption.
A
S
Okay,
well
we'd,
be
again
lloyd
companies.
Maybe
to
answer
that
question:
it's
probably
best
to
kind
of
backtrack
on.
You
know
why
we
have
the
building
size.
We
have
kind
of
what
other
standards
I'm
working
under
to
actually
fit
this
site.
Sherwin
Williams
is
the
tenant
to
the
building.
This
is
the
third
building
we've
built
for
them.
They
work
under
a
very
stringent
prototype
standard
as
I'm
sure
you're,
aware
many
kind
of
national
national
retailers,
national
restaurants,
etc.
S
Do
their
prototype
is
a
50
50
foot
wide
building
they
do
50
by
80
and
50
by
90,
okay,
but
nevertheless
it's
the
50
foot
dimension
that
we
are
that
we're
dealing
with.
Today
we
start
with
that
50
foot
dimension.
We
try
to
push
that
as
far
west
on
the
parcel
as
we
can.
The
next
standard
is
the
7-foot
sidewalk
and
the
next
standard
after
that
is
the
22
foot
parking
stall,
but
two-foot
parking
stall.
Some
of
you
may
get
there
that
this
is
that's
a
a
longer
than
normal
parking
stall.
S
As
you
know,
Sherwin
Williams
is
a
paint
store.
Sherwin
Williams
serves
both
retail
consumers
as
well
as
contractors,
so
the
east
side
of
the
building
is
primarily
meant
for
contractor
parking.
Large
vans
loading.
You
know
being
able
to
traverse
the
sidewalk
with
carts
things
like
that,
so
that's
kind
of
why
they
why
the
e
stalls
or
the
width
that
they
are
and
then,
of
course,
you
get
the
parking
stalls
and
you
get
to
they
standard
24
foot
drive
lane.
S
So
when
we
started
when
we
looked
at
this
site
initially,
you
know
we
we
probably
made
a
poor
assumption
and
that
there
was
only
gonna
be
a
10-foot
setback
until
we
actually
got
the
information
we
needed.
So
that's
kind
of
we
got
a
little
bit
further
down
the
road
at
the
purchase
agreement
and
things
to
get
us.
You
know
thinking
this
is
the
site
we
really
wanted
to
latch
on
to.
S
What
I've
built
these
buildings
and
similar
buildings
before
and
I've
yeah
I've
now
built
buildings,
and
in
going
on
25
states,
I
would
say
that
this
C
3
zoning
and
a
20
foot
20
foot
side
yard
setback
is
a
much
wider
setback
than
most
models
owning
codes.
Most
models,
zoning
ordinances
would
would
afford
so
I
mean
it
is
a.
It
is
a
large
setback.
S
Secondly,
you
know
setbacks
are
kind
of
put
there
for
numerous
different
reasons.
For
you
know
maintaining
density
standards,
fire
protection,
landscape
buffers-
you
know,
aesthetics,
a
number
of
different
things.
You
know
once
again,
I'll
get
back
to
the
non
combustible
nature
of
our
building.
You
know
so
when
it
comes
to
building
code
and
fire
standards,
the
the
type
of
construction
that
were
contemplating
here,
you
know
should,
should
you
know
kind
of
take
care
of
that
and
things
it's
been.
S
You
know
my
experience
that
if
we
are
asking
for
some
sort
of
a
reduction
and
a
setback
that
usually
there's
a
there's,
you
know
there
might
be
a
you
know
some
trade-offs
and
you
know
and
again
and
the
experience
that
I
have
in
other
states
and
other
other
jurisdictions.
Some
of
those
trade-offs
might
be.
You
know
asked
me
to
do
more
more
of
a
berm.
Ask
me
there
do
more
landscaping
on
that
side.
Do
some
do
some
things
like
that
to
kind
of
boost
the
aesthetics,
but
you
know
the
the
rest
of
it.
S
G
S
S
D
S
D
Get
the
full
50
you'd
have
to
have
a
variance,
but
if,
if
your
building
was
reduced
in
size
or
moved
slightly
to
the
east,
a
little
bit
and
narrow
it
up
that
24
foot,
that
would
not
be
a
deal-breaker.
You
could
either
reduce
this
up.
Okay,
here's
what
I'm
asking
you
could
either.
Would
there
be
a
possibility
of
reducing
the
width
of
the
building
or,
if
you
didn't,
if
that's
didn't,
want
to
reduce
the
width,
you
could
take
a
little
bit
of
that
24
feet.
D
O
O
D
S
S
S
Once
again,
I
mean
working
with
your
set
of
standards
and
their
set
of
standards
and
trying
to
find
to
find
something
that
works.
So
to
answer
your
first
question
know
the
building
with
cannot
reduce
because
it's
it's
based
on
a
standard,
fixture
layout
standard
fixture
plan.
That's
you
know
again,
national
national
concept
they'll
walk
away
before
they.
Let
me
reduce
the
building.
The
seven-foot
we've
asked
him
to
reduce
the
seven-foot
before
we
kind
of
got
turned
down.
S
S
The
22-foot
is
I
would
say,
is
the
most
is
that
is
the
more
excessive.
You
know
piece
because,
like
Ken
said,
a
parking
stall
is
parking
stalls
standards
are
18
and
a
half
feet
here,
we're
accustomed
to
seeing
a
19
feet
so
we're
you
know,
we're
three
foot,
but
at
3
foot
we're
still
if
I,
if
I
knock
that
down
to
a
standard,
if
I
could
get
Sherwin
Williams
to
agree
with
that,
I'm
still
asking
for
a
variance,
but.
D
S
G
Saying
if
you're,
if
that's
what
they're
looking
for
its
contractors
and
that's
what
they're
there
supplying
for
it's
it's
possible
to
do
it,
but
it
is
a
multi-point
turn.
I
mean
it's
not
a
just
a
back
out
type
of
thing:
its
back
forward
back
forward
back
forward
out
I
mean
you:
can
you
drive
up
there
after
this?
Try
it
as.
K
G
A
A
D
Know
it's
it's
Tiger
tiger,
it's
tired
at
a
point
I'm
trying
to
make
as
we
want
this
to
go.
You
know
we
don't
want
this
to
be
a
deal
breaker,
but
we
also
have
the
first
lot
the
first
building
in
a
large
area
in
an
overlay
district
and
I
hate
to
make
an
exception
right
on
the
very
first
one.
If
there's
a
way
that
we
can
make
it
work
and
live
within
your
parameters
and
the
cities
and
I
think
there
is
Dennis.
I
I
C
S
D
You
have
is
22
correct,
so
my
point
is:
you've,
got
adequate
space
to
park
those
vehicles
and
come
out
and
swing
and
meet
your
standards
and
hours
and
have
adequate
room.
We
don't
have
any
cars
parked
behind
you.
There
is
no
parallel
parking.
There
is
no
diagonal
parking.
The
other
way
you
seen
I'm,
saying
and.
C
S
S
G
The
thing
I
see
the
most
is,
it
is
15
feet
and
your
your
entire
building
is
is
draining
that
direction
on
to
the
other.
There
are
the
people
we
did
make
a
a
I,
don't
know
agreement
that
you
weren't
going
to
hinder
any
any
runoff
on
that
direction.
On
to
someone
else's
plan,
that's
4000
square
feet
of
impermeable
surfaces,
dumping
out
to
the
west,
we're.
N
G
S
I
hear
you
I,
hear
you
loud
and
clear
on
that
one
and
well,
first
off
I
trust
in
rod
and
I.
Think
a
lot
of
you
guys
do
too
so
we'll
make
sure
he
comes
up
with
something
and
worst
case.
If
we,
if
we
can't,
if
we
can't
get
it
by
simply
channelized,
you
know
by
natural
grade,
then
we're
gonna
put
a
storm
pipe
in
there
and
collect
it
and
dump
it
out
into
the
ditch.
So
it's
gonna
be
we'll
do
what
we
got
to
do
there.
A
So
the
way
I
look
at
it
is
on
the
east
side
of
the
building.
We've
got
a
7-foot
sidewalk,
a
22
foot,
parking
stall
and
24
feet
between
the
back
of
the
curb
in
the
end
of
the
parking
stall
which
my
math
and
my
math
that
gives
me
53.
Is
that
right,
we're
saying
7,
plus
22
plus
20
for
common
courses
53
feet.
O
A
No,
the
sidewalk
up
against
the
building
come
I,
say
I,
do
decide
to
the
7-foot
sidewalk
up
against
the
building
at
22
foot
stall
in
a
24
foot
section
there.
That
gives
us
53
feet.
That's
what
the
variance
without
the
variance
he's
got
48
feet
to
get
a
sidewalk
a
parking.
You
know
your
parking
stalls
and
then
your
lane.
S
S
R
S
S
K
M
M
S
U
A
U
Maybe
this
has
already
been.
Maybe
this
has
already
been
addressed
and
I
I
didn't
hear
it.
The
first
question
is
more
of
a
maybe
back
for
corporate
is
whether
or
not
they're
married
to
the
requirement
of
a
two-way
entrance.
I'm
betting-
that's
probably
the
case,
but
if
I
could
be
a
one-way
entrance,
perhaps
I
would
decrease
the
lane
width
to
is
maybe
an
obvious
question,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
been
asked,
or
at
least
considered
as
to
whether
or
not
the
purchase
of
five
feet
from
the
other
side.
S
So
to
a
traffic
on
the
site
again
as
part
of
the
national
standard
to
try
to
you
know,
there's
there's,
certainly
multiple
parking
configurations
and
multiple
entry
configurations
that
people
can
utilize
diagonal
parking
and
those
kind
of
things.
It's
not
a
it's,
not
something
that
Sherwin
Williams
does
90
degree
parking
two
way
to
way
drive
paths
are
the
most
efficient
parking
configurations
and
drive
configurations
that
there
are
it's.
It
really
is
the
best
use
of
land.
It.
S
G
K
G
D
H
D
O
O
D
U
N
A
O
G
O
D
D
H
D
D
K
A
S
You
know
if
I
just
gained
two
foot
on
the
east
side
and
if
I
3
foot
reduction
on
the
west
side-
and
you
know-
or
even
a
two
foot
reduction
and
talk,
Sherwin,
Williams
and
shaving
a
foot
off
their
stall
and
still
so
they
can
still
meet
their
contractor
standards.
You
know
now
I
know
no
one.
You
know
play
in
the
game
of
inches
and
I
and.
A
A
Variance
of
granite
is
a
minimum
necessary
to
make
the
land
usable.
You
know
we
still
go
back
to
the
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
a
variance
does.
Does
this
property
actually
need
a
variance
for
the
owner
of
the
land
to
to
use
the
land
to
have
any
viable
use
on
it
at
all
and
in
the
fact
that
it's
in
our
gateway
zone?
But
anybody
else
have
any
other
questions
with
that.
I'll
close
the
public
hearing
ask
for
a
motion
in
a
second
for
discussion.
D
A
G
O
O
O
G
A
N
Guess
you
know
if
you're
talking
about
taking
away
that
two
foot
of
green
space,
you
know
to
put
it
on
the
west
side
of
the
property.
I'd
actually
prefer
to
see
that
green
space
stay
on
the
landscaping
side,
the
street
side
I
like
the
aesthetic
better
in
that
situation
than
just
adding
you
know
two
feet
of
green
space
on
the
west
side.
A
D
G
I'm
not
a
huge
fan
of
this
proposal,
but
at
the
same
point
I
think
it's
a
double-edged
sword
I
think
it's
something
that
once
this
we
have
some
sticks
on
the
ground
out
there
that
we
could
see
some
development
come
in.
I
right
away:
I,
don't
like
making
adjustments
for
for
the
first
one,
obviously,
but
at
the
same
point
I
can
see
what
this
there's
the
possibilities
at
this
this
site
will
bring
to
that
area.
I
I
guess
I'm
I'm
kind
of
pondering
between
making
this
adjustment
for
the
greater
good
of
the
area.
I
Being
on
the
public,
you
know
I,
you
know,
I
hear
a
lot
of
complaints
about
us
not
being
more
proactive,
just
to
try
to
get
stuff
in
here.
So
everybody's
had
the
same
opportunity
to
get
something
going
out
in
that
development.
It's
just
been
laying
there
for
a
long
long
time.
So
you
know
if
the
first
one
we
it's
trial
and
error.
You're
gonna
have
to
make
some
adjustments
on
that
first
one
and
go
from
there.
K
D
D
We
could
negotiate
here
and
make
a
work
without
having
to
make
that
exception,
but
we
also
spend
probably
an
hour
talking
about
getting
some
kind
of
a
master
plan,
and
for
this
this
whole
large
portion
put
together
so
I
would
just
say:
I
would
sure
hope
that
somebody
would
would
people
would
get
together
and
whether
that
they
follow
through
and
actually
begin
to
market
property
into
that,
but
at
least
get
their
thoughts
together.
And
so
we
know
where
we're
headed
with
it
and
I
hope.
It's
in
your
lifetime,
rot
I,
agree.
A
D
S
Know
what
I'm
saying
be
just
I'll
be
frank
with
you
guys,
I
mean
I.
You
know,
sherwin-williams
is
not
an
easy
tenant
to
work
with.
You
know
my
clients
aren't
an
easy.
You
know
customer
to
work
with.
You
know,
there's
they've
picked
water
tell
them
they
want
to
be
here
they've.
You
know,
there's
there's
other
sites
that
they
could
be
considering
right
now,
they've
put
all
their
focus
here,
I
think.
S
If,
if
there's,
if
there's
not
a
full,
you
know
if,
as
we've
applied
for
it,
if
it's
not
granted,
if
it's
flat-out
rejected,
you
know,
I
yeah,
it's
gonna
be
challenging
to
proceed.
It's
gonna
be
challenging
for
them
to
serve
their
customers.
The
way
they'd
like
to
serve
their
customers.
I,
don't
know
we
all.
You
know
we're
all
in
business
and
way,
shape
or
form
and
I
know
we
all
you
know,
kinda
have
to
account,
make
certain
accommodations
to
our
customers.
S
So
we
all
kind
understand
what
our
customers
expect.
Well,
they
know
what
their
is
expect
and
that's
why
they've
developed
standards
that
way
so
a
flat-out
rejection,
yeah,
it's
gonna,
be
difficult.
You
know
some
sort
of
you
know
if
we
got
a
couple
feet
here
and
a
few
feet
here,
kind
of
an
answer:
I
think
I
can
sell
that.
D
S
All
the
way
over
and
sliding
the
whole
site
over
to
foot
that
way
helps
the
got
the
three
foot
down
the
west
side.
That
would
be.
That
would
be
ideal.
If
you
gave
me
two
foot
on
the
west
side
and
I
told
Sherwin
Williams,
they
had
knock
a
foot
off
their
parking
stalls.
That
was
the
that
was
the
compromise.
I
think
I
could
sell
that
you
know
you're
asking
for
you
know
you're,
asking
a
question
and
it's
it's
a
fair
question.
You.
D
Know
well,
I,
think,
and
the
reason
I'm
asking
is
we're
not
at
opposites.
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear.
We're
here
to
see
the
town
girl
and
we
want
to
see
development
happen,
but
we
also
have
rules
and
things
we
have
to
follow
and
is
it
we
need
to
pull
it
together.
You
have
to
have
five
votes
to
pass
on
this
and
I
actually.
S
The
way
they
and
the
way
they've
come
together
in
the
way
of
the
way
they've
evolved
in
ac3
zoning
district,
a
twenty
foot
side
yard
setback
is
pretty
big.
You
know
you're
looking
in
this
area,
for
you
know,
lifestyle
center
type,
you
know
type
tenants
type,
you
know
buildings
and
you
know
those
are
those
are
more
dense
than
other
than
other
types
of
retail
uses.
You
know
so
this
this
dummy
in
the
25
20
foot,
setback
right
kind
of
I
mean
they
kind
of
admitted
earlier
that
that
one.
N
S
N
S
G
G
S
Maybe
maybe
I'll
you
know,
throw
it
out
you
might.
You
might
be
aware
that
Sioux
Falls
just
went
through
a
whole
zoning
ordinance,
their
whole
shape
places,
zoning
ordinance
and
landscape
buffers
in
exchange
for
for
society
our
setback
reductions
is
is
one
of
the
is
one
of
the
acceptable
methods
you
know
if
there
was
if
you're
looking
for
you
know
what
other
communities
are
doing.
That's
what
you
know
that's
what
Sioux
Falls
is
doing
so
tell
me
to
put
a
two
foot
berm
along
that
side.
To
could
take
care
of
any
possible
runoff.
G
G
Don't
have
control
and
we
have
no
idea
what
they're
going
to
be
putting
there,
whether
it
be
a
road
whether
it
be
a
backside
of
a
restaurant,
whether
it
be
you
know,
just
a
bookstore.
You
know
some
something
that
might
have
windows
towards
that
direction.
I
think
you
know
you're
moving
in
closer
I
agree
with
you.
I
may
be
some
sort
of
a
greens
requirement
exchange
but
I
don't
know
I,
don't.
K
D
A
A
O
G
O
G
K
O
A
A
O
All
right,
this
is
application
for
one
five,
nine
two
six
conditional
use
requests
again
applicant
is
Protista,
cristina
Walzer,
DBA
green
show,
Lakes
Academy
property
owner
is
rather
than
rental.
Llc
I
have
a
conceit
conditional
used
to
operate
a
non
residential
daycare
facility
in
the
c3
Iowa
commercial
district
for
21.2
803
contingent
upon
compliance
with
the
specific
rules
governing
individual
conditional
uses
and
all
other
applicable
regulations.
O
O
Applicants
seats
again
approval
for
the
daycare
button
daycare
facility
is
listed
in
the
conditional
use
offered
street
parking
requirements.
According
to
the
applicants
submitted
site
plan,
the
property
has
two
ingress
and
egress
access
points.
The
minimum
number
of
legal
sized
and
paved
off
street
parking
spaces
required
for
the
sylheti
is
twenty.
Nine
thirty
possible
are
shown
to
exist
on
this
property.
O
Their
letter
identifies
that
they
currently
have
twenty
one
spaces
available
that
are
paved,
and
some
of
those
are
questionable
even
we'll
get
into
that
a
little
bit
landscape
and
lighting
standards
or
is
sufficient
billable
Boulevard
area
adjacent.
This
property
comply
with
a
standard
boulevard,
infrastructure
requirements,
state
licensing,
architectural
engineering
code
review
and
other
conditions.
The
the
board
of
all
just
adjustment
deems
necessary.
Well,
no,
that's
not
not
deems
necessary
state
licensing.
Architectural
engineering
code
review
is
required
for
them
to
get
their
permit
regardless.
O
O
They
have
an
access
point
right
here
with
paved
parking
here.
They
have
an
access
point
right
here
with
pay
parking
here
there
again
get
a
state-approved,
so
this
whole
facility
will
be
monitored
examined
by
the
state
prior
to
licensing
being
issued.
So
they're
the
fall
back
on
this,
because
they're
required
to
have
an
off-site
play
area
and
some
other
issues
there
with
them
the
day
care
building,
because
it
is
day
care
will
require
a
code
review
and
really
because
it's
each
room
that
has
children
has
having
a
door
to
the
exterior
and
all
that
stuff.
O
A
O
O
B
Andy
Hampton
I'm
representing
the
Watertown
co-op,
which
it's
their
neighbors
to
the
east
and
the
BN
Drive
that
runs
right
down
through
there.
It
runs
continually
with
heavy
truck
traffic
in
and
out
of
the
elevator,
and
you
can
tell
by
the
size
of
that.
It's
a
pretty
good
sized
facility
that
has
a
lot
of
trucks
and
the
trucks
today
are
double-length
a
big
share
of
them,
so
they're
pulling
trailers
with
them,
and
this
facility
has
access
right
at
the
angle
they're
in
the
driveway.
That's
how
they
access
right.
There.
B
I
G
A
To
see
if
it's
reasonable
use
of
the
land
you
know
and
in
the
funny
thing,
with
daycare
facilities,
we've
got
home
occupation
that
our
daycare
facilities.
We
do
have
a
couple:
commercial
daycare
facilities,
one
being
jack-and-jill,
uptown,
I,
think
they're.
Still
there
there
was
one
out
in
the
industrial
park
and
it's
kind
of
a
different.
It's
not
a
bright
yeah.
It's
it's
not
really
privately
owned
in
your
home,
it's
more
of
like
a
commercial
daycare.
You
know
I
get
a
different
hybrid.
We
try
to
fit
it
all,
but
go
ahead.
Loop.
I
U
U
Commissioner
Lawrence's
question
is:
is
what
exactly
are
we
doing
with
a
conditional
use
permit
and
a
conditional
use
to
give
you?
The
short
version
is
that
it's
it's
a
use
that
is
allowable.
It
is
compatible
with
surrounding
land
uses
because
of
the
fact
that
it
is
listed
in
the
ordinance.
It's
an
administrative
function
of
the
board.
U
Generally
speaking
when
you
wind
up
when
you
wind
up
seeing
it
so
what
you're
looking
at
is,
does
it
meet
the
conditions
of
our
zoning
district
of
what
we
have
so
at
that
point,
it's
a
listed
use
in
there
so
now
you're.
What
you're
looking
at
is
is:
are
there
things
that
we
need
to
do
to
improve
this
area,
to
make
it
to
make
it
fit
in
with
with
the
rest
of
this
district?
So.
G
My
job
isn't
isn't
to
come
up
here
and
say:
well,
that's
not
safe!
It's
next
to
a
coop
elevator!
It's
those
kids
are
in
danger
because
of
the
road
that's
out
in
front
of
it
or
or
you
know,
there's
a
breathing
in
manure
from
across
the
street.
I
mean
that's
not
part
of.
Why
I'm
here
and
that's
what
that's?
What
I'm
trying
to
am
I
is
this
a
land
use
thing?
Is
this
there
good
enough,
or
is
that
something
that
I
need
to
take
into
account
the.
U
G
U
A
It's
it's
state
standards
and
it's
a
tough
one,
because
you
actually
look
there
and
go.
You
know
we
just
worked
for
two
hours
on
the
other
side
of
town
on
a
major
highway
here,
we're
on
the
other
side
of
town,
where
we
have
two
major
highways
crossing
I.
Think
if
we
did
it
the
other
way
around
and
said.
If
someone
came
in
to
us
instead,
I
want
to
put
a
stockyard
on
highway,
20
we'd
say:
that's,
probably
not
the
right
place
to
put.
N
A
I
want
to
put
an
elevator
on
highway,
20
we'd
say:
that's,
probably
not
the
best
spot.
I
want
to
put
a
daycare.
Well,
it's
a
reasonable
spot,
but
you
know
what
happens
is
again
we're
put
in
a
position
because
we've
outgrown
this
used
to
be
outside
of
town,
and
now
it's
not
it's
just
kind
of
the
dynamics.
As
the
city
grows,
you
look
and
go.
Is
it?
Is
it
the
right
place?
A
A
We
first
see
and
then
in
the
long
distance
future,
that
this
is
someday,
that
elevator
may
not
be
there
someday
that
stockyard
might
not
be
there
and
it
would
be
a
commercial,
more
commercial
rather
than
industrial
corner,
just
a
thought,
but
it
is.
Is
it
the
correct
use
of
the
land
as
the
way
the
land
is
currently
zoned
in
c3?
That's
what
the
conditional
use
is
for
correct.
Mr.
K
L
Just
as
a
reminder
to
the
board,
you
have
a
piece
of
paper
in
your
packet
that
is
the
2102
o2
to
be,
and
as
with
any
conditional
use,
that
is
the
cell
go
to
Supreme
Court's
direction
to
you
on
on
a
list
of
things
that
you
routinely
look
at
ingress
and
egress
to
the
property
off
street
parking,
general
compatibility
required
side,
yards
screening
and
buffering,
and
that
that's
your
general
list
and
then
the
safety
of
course
of
the
of
the
children,
loading
and
unloading.
And
things
like
that.
Thank.
A
O
P
G
A
A
B
A
Motion
carries
assume,
there's
no
old
business
new
business
executive
session
last
for
a
motion
I
take
it
back.
I
forgot
to
get
a
motion
in
a
second
to
approve
the
minutes
of
January
22nd
2015
way.
Mr.
Lawrence
saying
my
mr.
Arnold
all
in
favor,
say
aye
opposed
motion
carries
a
motion
to
adjourn
motion
by
mr.
Lawrence
second
by
mr.
Dahle.
All
in
favor,
say:
aye
opposed
motion
carries.