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B
C
A
C
A
D
A
B
Again,
this
is
an
estate
application
was
submitted,
requesting
constructor,
non-conforming,
280
square
foot
14
by
20-foot,
an
attached
garage
on
the
7920
square
foot
parcel
and
the
said
structure
proposed
to
be
constructed.
Five
foot
from
the
rear,
north
property
line
or
20
foot
is
required
in
five
point:
five
feet
from
the
side:
east
proper
land.
Remember:
six
foot
is
required.
B
What's
going
on
here
is
actually
the
mrs.
Tate
came
in
last
year
and
pulled
a
permit
to
replace
some
doors
and
windows
in
this
in
this
garage
right
here
and
mr.
dog
went
out
and
started
looking
at
it
and
says
it's
in
such
a
bad
shape,
it's
not
worth
redoing.
It's
got
a
good
concrete
pad,
that's
still
existing
here
and
now.
B
What
they're
hoping
to
do
is
just
to
tear
it
down
and
rebuild
it
back
to
the
exact
same
size
and
she's
that
same
spot,
legally
I
kind
of
went
out
and
condemned
this
thing,
and
let
it
rebuild
it
this
as
it
is,
if
I
were
to
want
it.
The
only
thing
is:
this
is
a
single
slope,
type
roof
and,
of
course,
they're
gonna
redo
it.
They
want
to
put
a
hip
roof
on
so
at
least
we'll
drain
water,
and
we
right
I.
B
This
is,
of
course,
that
see
that's
the
existing
garage
there
in
there,
and
this
is
the
general
proposal,
what
they're
hoping
to
do
so
she's
talked
to
both
of
her
adjacent
neighbors.
They
both
signed
consent
forms
that
they'd
be
happy
to
avoid
with
this
nobody's
contacted
us
with
regard
to
anything
against
this
construction
is
proposed.
A
A
A
E
The
original
structure
was
built
in
about
1950.
My
parents
bought
the
lake
property
and
then
turned
it
in
from
a
lake
cabin
into
a
lake
home
by
having
more
additions
built,
and
it's
just.
We
want
to
just
be
able
to
store
our
jetski
and
our
lawnmowers
in
it
and
put
a
garage
door
on
the
north
side
and
like
to
say
this
has
been
there
since
1950
and
Arizona
Avenue
is
just
a
little
dirt.
B
E
E
B
D
A
This
is
about
80
square
feet,
bigger
than
what
that
would
be,
and
how
close
can
those
get
to
it
a
lot
longer,
so
those
can
get
four
foot
two,
so
a
shed
bought
on
to
twelve
can
be
moved
in
within
four
feet.
We
require
six
feet
on
this
one
and
she's
at
about
a
half
a
foot.
Anyone
else
have
any
other
questions.
A
F
A
A
Okay
with
that
in
the
motion,
second,
was
by
like
you:
okay
with
that,
so
we'll
add
to
that
motion.
No
overhanging
gutters
on
that
side,
no
overhang
with
gutters
on
that
side
as
to
not
intrude
on
290
Arizona
Avenue,
as
far
as
carrying
the
water
from
that
roof.
Any
other
discussion,
seeing
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
opposed
motion
carries
third
item
on
the
agenda.
Shannon
and
Kim
Moe's
permit
number
one
six,
three,
eight
one
appealing
the
terms
of
the
r1
zoning
and
the
address
for
that
is
not
on
here:
718
door,
Avenue.
B
All
right
second
item:
this
application
for
building
permit
number
one
six,
three
eight
one
owner
applicant.
It
is
Shannon
and
Kim
mows.
The
address
is
seven
eighteen
door.
Avenue
applicant
application
was
submitted
requesting
to
enlarge
and
non-conforming
single-family
dwelling
by
raising
the
building
to
create
a
new
non-conforming,
864
square
foot,
lower
level
with
non-conforming
wraparound
decks
and
a
256
square
foot
enclosed
porch
on
an
hour
one's
own
parcel
said:
lower
level
proposed
to
be
constructed.
B
Staff
finds
that
there
is
sufficient
buildable
area
in
the
7970
2.5
square
foot
parcel
to
construct
a
ordinance
compliant
garage
up
to
2
1036
square
feet
24
by
43,
without
variances,
there's
also
sufficient.
Buildable
area
for
the
compliant
property
primary
structure,
lifting
the
house
provides
the
opportunity
to
adjust
the
position
of
the
24
foot
wide
structure
to
comply
with
current
height
and
placement
requirements.
Therefore,
negging
in
the
issue
of
enlarging
a
non-conforming
structure,
33.8
feet
of
the
37
point
5
feet
lot.
It
was
proposed
3
the
paved
leaving
a
4
foot
for
grass
boulevard
tree.
B
B
B
This
is
the
existing
house,
of
course,
as
you
see
right
there,
first
of
all,
if
they
want
to
lift
this
house
to
meet
FEMA
requirements
and
just
elevate
it
to
the
floodplain,
it's
okay
to
do
it,
as
it
is
right
now,
no
issue,
that's
a
lot
by
our
ordinance,
the
air
proposing
to
lift
it,
to
bring
it
to
flood
FEMA
flood
plain
compliance
and
then
had
another
story.
What
the
increase
of
the
cubic
content
of
the
building?
B
G
Its
lacks
lack
storage
space
lacks
no
closets,
no
kitchen
space,
I
literally
got
room.
I
should
say
my
wife
has
about
two
and
a
half
feet
of
counter
space,
three
feet
of
counter
space,
prepare
meals
on,
and
everything
like
that.
So
we've
thought
about
getting
a
flat
wall
space
there
to
expand
her
kitchen
and
that's
when
it
was
suggested
to
us
by
the
builders
since
we're
raising
it
anyway,
to
add
that
extra
level
of
floor
space
underneath
so
we
can
have
extra
family
space,
kitchen
and
family
space.
G
One
of
the
things
is
is
I
know
that
we
are
only
three
and
a
half
feet
from
Janet.
I
did
get
an
opportunity
to
show
Janet
on
Monday
I
went
over
there
and
we
discussed
it
for
about
an
hour
and
a
half
of
issues,
but
I'm
we're.
Finally
at
least
saw
the
floor
plan
of
what
it's
actually
going
to
look
like
and
the
same
thing
was
Leslie
and
kinda.
I
do
have
a
signed
letter
from
Conda
Williams
and
Leslie
top
c'n
of
agreeing
to
what's
being
proposed
on
our
property.
G
I
know
Janet's
here
and
she'll
speak
on
her
behalf
of
against
the
house,
but
I
will
tell
you.
I
could
understand
Janet's
position,
we're
in
I
understand
too
that
many
years
ago
that
whole
property
down
there
all
along
the
roll
they
all
used
to
be
cabins
and
we're
strictly
made
for
cabin
usage,
and
that's
it
over
time.
People
have
bought
cabins
I
understand
that
in
our
a-frame
right
now
and
in
Janet's
house,
there
used
to
be
two
brothers
who
lived
next
to
each
other
and
from
what
I
understand
is
the
brother
and
the
a-frame.
G
Our
property
gave
his
other
brother
Janet's
house
some
lands,
so
they
can
build
the
current
ranch
house
on
that
property.
Janice
got
nine
feet
from
her
house
to
her
lot
line,
whereas
I'm
at
that
three
point
four
or
three
and
a
half
feet.
It
is,
unfortunately,
I'm
not
related
to
Janet.
Otherwise
we
might
not
have
this
issue
and
we
could
build
it
as
is,
but
you
know
we're
not
and
that's
where
we
come
before
the
board.
I
guess
in
our
position.
It
makes
total
sense
for
us.
G
We
can't
change
the
three
and
a
half
feet
right
now:
she's,
looking
at
basically
our
site
of
our
roof
line
right
now
on
a
frame
and
roof
shakes
on
part
of
that
dormer.
That's
built
out
for
raising
it
anyway.
I
understand,
I
have
to
put
a
retaining
wall
all
the
way
around
the
foundation
or
the
house
fill
in
our
three
and
a
half
foot
crawlspace
now
to
bring
it
up
to
flood
elevation.
G
While
we
raised
it,
you
know
we're
gonna,
raise
it
and
maybe
hopefully
add
another
nine-foot
wall
there.
So
we
can
have
more
kitchen
and
family
space
for
our
family
for
many
years
to
come.
Our
position
is
the
turn
this,
and
not
only
to
a
cabin
now
saw
the
house
in
town
and
live
out
here
permanently
we've
since
March.
We
probably
only
have
spent
about
ten
days
inside
the
in
our
house
in
town,
and
this
is
where
we
like
to
be
for
the
rest
of
our
lives.
G
G
G
They
ran
over
a
couple
sprinkler
heads
I've
took
care
of
that
right
away
and
I
brought
my
boat
across
her
property
and
I.
Didn't
quite
understand
her
frustrations
with
it,
but
I
do
now.
After
talking
to
her
Monday
and
that's
something.
Hopefully
we
can
remedy
once
we
get
the
house
lifted
and
the
loss
put
up
here.
Is
she
brought
up
about
putting
a
fence
in
between
the
property
lines
and
I've
offered?
G
G
This
is
a
place
where
we
like
to
be
and
make
the
house
permanent
instead
of
just
the
cabin
and
whatever
you
need
to
do,
to
make
it
right
with
Janet
to
make
everything
right,
I
even
offered
to
buy
those
like
a
couple
feet
back,
but
I
can
understand
why
she
wouldn't
want
to
sell
it
to
me
either,
but
in
the
same
sense
we
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
great
neighbors
everybody
and
have
many
years
of
a
great
family
life
out
here.
So
we
can
all
enjoy.
The
lake
sounds.
G
I'd
say
about
the
water
issues
right
now:
there's
nothing
on
the
a-frame
right
now,
there's
no
overhang
on
a-frame
whatsoever.
It
comes
right
down
right
inside
the
sidewalk.
You
can
see
the
point.
There's
no
overhang
there
whatsoever.
I,
know
on
Janet's
house,
there's
no
rain
gutters
on
her
house,
either
in
between
the
property
or
Leslie's
side.
Right
now,
so
the
rain
comes
down.
It
sits
right
in
between
our
yards
and
that's
where
it
is,
there's
nothing
to
take
to
take
that
water,
snow
melt
away
like
this.
G
Well,
we
raise
the
house
if
you've
seen
pictures
of
it.
The
roof
is
in
dire
need
of
new
shingles.
When
we
do
raise
it,
I
will
be
putting
gutters
on
the
sides
of
the
house
going
down
to
the
downspouts
PVC
pipe
whatever
like
this,
which
will
carry
that
away
from
the
property
line
and
towards
the
lake
back
there
towards
the
street
side.
G
H
G
Yes,
correct
that
part
would
should
be
underneath
how
I
got
in
vision.
In
my
head,
anyways
I
mean
I'm,
not
gonna
have
40
feet
of
a
rain
gutter
going
from
the
edge
of
the
house
all
the
way
out
to
the
lake,
or
something
like
that
with
the
proposal
here
of
building
out
with
the
retaining
wall,
how
we
have
to
build
it
out
around
the
foundation
here
and
around
the
proposed
three
season.
G
Room
someday
is
from
the
house
where
it
comes
off
the
edge
of
that
that'll
be
approximate,
what
sixteen
feet
of
that
and
then
the
wood
deck
on
the
other
side
of
that.
That
way,
that
will
be
all
buried
underneath
that
flooring
to
go
out
towards
the
lake
like
that,
so
it
kind
of
yes,
it'll,
be
underground,
so
to
speak.
I.
B
Don't
know
that
I'd
make
that
mandatory,
though
sometime,
if
he's
gonna,
build
that
retaining
we're
all
around
there.
It
might
be
better
off
just
slope
on
the
ground
accordingly
to
get
it
to
drain
away,
that
PVC
pipe
will
freeze
and
then
then
you're
at
the
mercy
of
the
whatever
it's
gonna
go
anyway,
so
not
to
reject
it,
but
not
make
it
mandatory.
G
B
Into
that,
no
it
may
not
be.
Typically,
we've
tried
to
hold
those
retaining
walls
back
at
least
a
foot,
so
the
water
can
flow
between
the
properties
back
and
forth
whenever
it's
one
side
of
the
other
I
haven't
seen
the
final
plan,
but
that's
still
gonna
be
subject
to
approval.
That
might
be
what
he
wants,
but
it
might
not
be
what's
accepted,
we'll
be
looking
at
a
lot
of
different
things
when
I
make
that
determination,
whether
we're
meeting
all
the
frost
requirements
and
everything
else
and.
A
B
B
C
G
Right
now,
there's
a
sidewalk
going
down
there
from
basically
part
of
the
house
right
on
the
lot
line
again
so,
as
we
add,
the
garage
we're
gonna
have
that
sidewalk
run
up
to
that
deck,
because
it's
gonna
be
elevated.
Now
that
you'd
have
to
walk
up
steps
on
to
that
deck
level,
to
walk
on
the
side
of
the
house
to
get
Lakeside.
That's
why
we
thought
the
deck
would
be
the
best
way
we
thought
pavers
would
be
fine
to
putting
it
in
the
retaining
wall
between
the
retaining
wall
in
the
house.
G
C
I
B
G
Marty
Mac
come
up
there
to
raise
it.
I
have
to
be
two
feet:
ten
inches
above
what
we
were
lifting
the
house,
so
the
retaining
wall,
black
and
I'm.
Looking
in
between
the
house
here
and
the
lot
line
that
retaining
wall
black
pathway,
where
we
can
walk
beside
the
house
to
get
out
to
the
lake
should
probably
be
roughly
maybe
that
four
foot
or
so
four
to
five
feet
high,
is
that
retaining
wall
on
that
side?
J
F
J
F
You're
wanting
to
turn
it
into
a
full-time
year-round
residence
trying
to
make
it
so
it's
not
so
impactful
upon
your
neighbors
on
either
side.
You
could
build
your
garage
25.5
feet
and
be
within
compliance
on
both
sides,
and
you
would
not
need
a
variance
for
your
garage,
correct
on
your
house
since
you're
gonna
raise
it
and
add
to
it
anyway.
If
you
move
it
over,
you
would
be
five
point
two
feet
from
each
of
your
property
lines
that
would
be
eight
tenths
of
a
foot.
F
G
G
For
the
I
know,
that's
why
Leslie's
kind
of
proved
that
she
said
she
was
fine
with
the
three-point
eight
feet,
which
would
be
good
with
the
garage.
The
the
house
I'll
be
honest
with
you
just
for
the
expense
of
it
dig,
dig
more
footings,
etc,
like
that
we
just
felt
this
was
the
easiest
way
to
go.
I
mean
here
again
whether
I
move
it
over
I
mean
I,
don't
know
what
the
difference
is.
G
Look
at
a
house
if
it's
this
close
to
you're
that
close
to
you
and
that's
when
I
see
Ana
right,
we
were
just
using
the
existing
foundation
just
to
go
straight
up
and
that's
it.
So
when
incur
any
more
expenses
and
I
just
I
thought
was
an
easy
solution
to
be
honest
with
you,
just
go
straight
up
instead
of
pouring
more
footings
around
the
house
and
adding
more
to
that
side
and
not
really
pushing
the
house
over
that
that
way
to
the
west.
I
What
was
the,
what
was
your
thought,
then,
on
the
the
point
that
Dennis
was
making?
As
far
as
making
the
garage
narrower
and
deeper,
you
could
still
have
the
same
square
footage
and
a
24
foot
garage
24
foot
with
garage
would
be
a
standard
double-wide
garage.
So
candidly,
what
you're
asking
for
is
a
wider
than
normal
garage
on
a
37
and
1/2
foot
wide
correct.
G
A
reason
for
that
it's
just
been
a
lot
of
houses.
A
lot
of
garages
averaged
over
the
time
24
foot
is
to
get
2
vehicles
in
there
fairly
narrow,
doesn't
give
you
a
whole
lot
of
walking
space
in
between
the
cars
when
you
open
the
car
doors
or
the
wall
space.
When
you
open
up
your
car
doors
here
again,
lack
of
space
trying
to
downsize
from
in
town
to
our
town
talked
to
at
the
lake.
Just
add
that
extra
couple
feet
there.
G
So
we
have
a
little
bit
more
storage
space
for
snow
blower,
lawnmower,
likes,
etc.
Like
that,
that's
why
we
requested
the
28
feet
wide,
actually,
to
be
honest,
with
your
original
plan,
started
at
30
feet
wide
and
then
I
heard
yet
Janet
didn't
like
the
setback
issues
like
this.
So
we
went
back
with
the
builders
and
proposed
from
a
three-stall
garage
skinning
it
up
to
28
what
they
thought
would
be
fine
and
I
said
I'm
fine
with
that.
G
K
Go
ahead
engineering,
it's
not
my
nature
to
pile
on
to
the
concerns
of
a
project
like
this,
but
one
thing:
I
do
see
a
certificate
here
from
his
surveyor
Marty
Mac,
not
sure
that
that's
this
property
and
issues
have
been
brought
to
our
staff
for
review
of
floodplain
issues.
I
would
like
to
at
least
have
an
opportunity
to
maybe
briefly
look
at
with
my
staff
and
make
sure
that
that
the
most
don't
create
a
problem
for
themselves,
especially
when
it
comes
to
insurance
and
things
going
forward.
B
K
Right
yep:
that's
why
I'm
I'm
just
making
that
point
that
that
that
should
be
reviewed
as
well.
You
know
I
understand
that
you're
raising
the
existing
structure
up
I
mean
I,
do
have
some
concerns
about
putting
a
lower
level
underneath
it
that
should
be
reviewed.
So
we'll
work
with
you
reviewing
that.
Okay.
L
Janet
twists
and
I
own,
the
property
on
the
east
side
of
Shannon
and
Kim
and
I
believe
I
have
talked
to
a
number
of
the
board
members
trying
to
express
some
of
my
concerns.
A
water
issue
definitely
would
be
one
of
them.
I've
seen
water
issues
before,
and
it
is
a
concern
how
it's
handled
and
where
that
drainage
is
going.
A
snow
issue
is
another
concern
of
mine.
L
There's
really
it's
been
a
the
snow
comes
through
there
terribly
during
the
winter,
and
you
know
where
it's
going
and
where
it
gets
put
and
stuff
is
also
a
concern
and
as
far
as
the
variances
on
the
side
of
the
lot
lines,
I
think
ordinances
are
put
in
place
for
a
reason.
There's
a
reason
to
protect
the
integrity
of
property
and
protect
the
neighbors
that
are
to
be
sidon
and
I.
Realize
everything's
closed
right
now.
L
But
this
lot
was
built
for
a
cabin
designed
for
a
cabin
and
I,
have
nothing
against
Kim
and
Shannon
and
I
understand
they'd
love
to
be
there
with
a
permanent
residence,
but
I
don't
want
it
to
be
intrusive.
On
my
property
and
I
put
up
with
a
lot
of
issues
in
the
last
21
years
of
everybody,
using
my
property
and
I
understand
why
they're
doing
it,
they
have
no
way
to
help
themselves.
There's
there's
no
way
to
move
there,
but
I've
had
Bobcats
up
and
down
there
constantly.
L
Yes,
they
tore
out
trees
and
broke
the
sprinklers
and
came
through
with
boats
and
I.
Don't
necessarily
have
a
problem
with
I
understand,
there's
people
to
visit,
and
for
years
people
walk
to
the
prop.
You
know
the
foot
traffic
probably
is
less
now
than
it
ever
was,
and
that's
not
yet
it's
going
through
there
with
vehicles,
I've
replanted.
L
The
structure
is
too
close.
The
way
it
is
and
I'm
with
Dennis.
If
you're
going
to
pick
it
up
and
lift
it
and
raise
it
up,
any
way,
move
it
over
and
get
in
compliance.
There's
a
reason
we
have
these
rules
and
a
deck
zero
feet
from
the
lot
line.
To
me,
it's
just.
It's
really
crazy
everything's.
To
close
the
way
it
is
37
feet.
Just
isn't
enough
to
deal
with
this
I
do
have
a
problem.
I
do
wish
he'd
get
in
compliance
and
he
said
I
think
there's
a
reason.
We
have
some
rules.
L
For
feet,
I
am
not
in
agreement
with
the
zero
foot
on
a-deck
I'm,
not
in
agreement
with,
and
you
know,
I
think
he
can
build
and
have
a
double
garage
and
be
in
compliance
there.
Now
when
he
says
Lesley
signed
a
form
I'm
a
little
bit
caught
off
guard
because
I've
talked
to
Leslie
three
times
and
as
of
two
days
ago,
she
said
she
might
have
to
work
and
couldn't
be
here,
but
she
was
opposed
at
that
time.
So
I'm
kind
of
surprised.
A
A
tough
part
of
this
board
because
we
we
get
put
into
a
position
and
be
real
easy
for
us
to
just
say
no
code
says
the
code
we
try
to.
We
try
to
take
the
emotion
out
of
it
and
and
make
a
decision
kind
of
Leia's
on
to
try
to
wordsmith
something
that
works
for
everybody
it
from
this
board
standpoint.
We
do
look
at
the
existing
land
owners,
but
we
try
to
look
out
further
than
that
and
say
you
know
not.
A
We've
had
times
when
I've
been
on
this
board
Dennis
been
on
this
board
when
people
have
come
in
and
opposed
something
that
they
signed
for,
but
it
was
for
a
different
neighbor.
At
the
time
a
guy
came
in
allowed
his
neighbor
to
give
him
an
easement
to
find
out
the
new
neighbor
came
in.
He
didn't
like
him.
He
wanted
to
not
abide
by
these
many
signs
of
theall
neighbors,
so
we
try
to
look
in
the
in
the
long
run.
As
far
as
the
height
of
the
house
can
it's
within
code.
B
A
A
So,
and
that
is
something
we
are
working
on
an
ordinance-
that's
that's
going
to
possibly
limit
the
height
of
a
structure
based
on
the
lot,
the
distance
from
the
lot
line.
Just
for
those
reasons
of
snow,
and
we
always
try
to
say
everyone
has
a
right
to
air
movement
and
sunshine
and
water,
and
when
you
build
too
close
that
happens
personally,
I
have
an
issue
with
the
deck
on
the
lot
line.
It
that's
a
lot
and
I
understand
why
you
would
want
to
do
it,
but
I
think.
B
L
B
C
B
A
B
A
A
F
You
know
and
Shannon
and
Kim
both
you
know
it's
not
nothing.
Excuse
me
personal
or
Janet,
either
it's
I
always
try
to
in
any
decision
in
life.
I've
always
tried
to
put
myself
in
the
other
person's
shoes
and
try
to
think
and
feel
how
they
would
look
at
a
situation
and
I
totally
understand.
Why
you'd
like
to
do
this.
The
other
side
of
it
is
you
still
have
a
37
foot
wide
lot
that
limits
you
and
what
you
can
do
on
it
and
not
to
be
so
impactful
on
your
neighbors.
F
That's
why
I
asked
with
a
little
bit
of
compromise
in
the
middle.
You
could
probably
have
everything
you
wanted.
It
might
cost
you
a
few
more
dollars,
but
everybody
on
both
sides
would
be
happy
and
you
would
get
everything
you
want
and
we
don't
have
to
really
stretch
the
rules
too
far,
where
we've
got
houses
sitting
right
on
property
lines.
You
know
now
we're
looking
at
5.2
feet
versus
you
can
have
six.
That's
why
I
said
that,
and
sometimes
it
takes
a
little
compromise
on
both
sides
to
for
everybody
to
walk
away
from
the
table.
F
Happy.
So
that's
that's.
Why
I
said
well,
I'm,
like
I,
said
it's
nothing,
personal
I'm,
really
not
in
favor
of
approving
something
that
close
to
the
line
we
have
gotten
caught
on
some
of
those
in
the
past
and
beyond
our
control.
We
didn't
approve
them,
but
they
got
done
by
circumventing
going
around
the
back
door
and
getting
it
done
or
maybe
that's
not
a
good
way
to
say
it,
but
I
just
hate
to
see
that
continued
on
these
small
odds,
that's
right,
man,
I,
guess,
I'm.
D
With
you
Dennis,
you
know,
and
from
an
accessibility
standpoint
too,
it
makes
a
big
difference
when
that
side
yard
is
so
small
trying
to
get
any
kind
of
equipment
or
docks,
or
you
know,
boats
down
that
that
property
lining
it
becomes
a
challenge
and
then
looking
at
the
layout
of
the
property.
If
you
did
shift
that
you
know
foot
and
a
half
or
two
foot
foot
to
the
the
west,
it
would
make
a
big
difference.
E
A
G
The
other
reason
to
that
we
have
not
really
wanted
to
push
that
over
as
the
where
the
Boathouse
is
right.
Now
it's
it's
pushed
over
four
and
a
half
feet
into
the
housing
space
right
now
again,
you
know
our
view.
Our
the
a-frame
is
probably
only
maybe
eight
ten
feet
anyway
at
the
most
somebody's
taking
the
house
and
sliding
it
over
again.
G
That
far
now
the
boathouse
is
coming
in
a
couple
more
feet
into
your
lines,
so
I
mean
really
as
you're
sitting
in
the
house,
you're
gonna
be
looking
at
the
back
end
of
your
boathouse
and
not
really
truly
seeing
the
enjoyment
of
the
view
out
there
at
the
lake.
That's
the
other
reason
why
we've
never
really
thought
about
building
over
a
couple
more
feet
and
for
reporting's
for
that
expense,
I.
A
I
Of
the
things
that
Hardman
yeah,
one
of
the
things
that
occurs
to
me
is
what
the
discussion
here
is
many
of
the
various
requests
we
get
are
necessitated
by
their
hour
by
the
fact
that
they
don't
know
other
building
options,
no
no
other
viable
outcomes,
and-
and
when
you
talk
about
the
the
garage
you
can
get
the
same
square
footage
and
in
a
standard
with
garage
again
that
ideal.
Certainly
you
know
with
the
house,
you
can
do
you
know
what
you
want
without,
admittedly,
at
additional
cost.
I
A
Thank
You
Martin
anyone
else
having
to
say
before
I
close
the
open,
seam,
none
I'll
close
the
open
ask
for
a
motion
in
a
second
for
discussion.
I'd
recommend
I
have
to
make
a
note
to
that.
We
have
one
two
three
four
five,
six
members,
the
Board
of
Adjustment,
requires
a
yes
vote
by
five
members
for
passage.
I
recommend
Denis,
you
make
a
motion.
I
think
you've
got
something
in
your
head
that
could
possibly
get
five
votes.
B
G
Sounds
like
maybe
no
one
adding
that
bottom
level
additional
level
to
the
bottom
of
the
house
now.
Is
that
something
that
I
go
through
this
whole
process?
Again,
if
you
say
no
to
the
house
yes
to
the
garage,
is
this
all-encompassing
one
if
you
say
that
out
nor
the
house
I
stop
at
the
house,
but
I
go
forward?
The
garage
then
can.
A
A
F
A
Yeah,
the
options
would
be
if
we
we
could
break
it
into
parts
because
we
can
we
can.
We
can
make
a
motion
and
if
it
passes,
you
could
either
take
it
and
do
it
that
way
or
do
it
within
the
ordinance
without
a
variance
meaning.
You
could.
If
we,
if
we
say
okay,
we're
okay
with
the
two
stories,
but
it
needs
to
be
moved
over.
F
B
What
you
have
four
teams
and
foundation
now
we
still
need
to
look
at
it
once
it
gets
lifted.
You
know,
hopefully
it's
not
a
trench
in
footing
because
it
would
not
allow
for
a
second
story
and
hopefully
somewhat
the
footing,
but
the
house
was
placed
I,
think
I
looked
at
the
d-r-e
record
and
I
believe
it
was
79.
This
was
Bill,
and
so
it's
not
all
that
old.
You
know
it's
25
years
ago
or
whatever,
so
you.
H
An
you
know:
if
the
structure
is
gonna
stay
in
the
place
and
you're
gonna
raise
it
up.
You
still
got
that
you're
still
not
that
far
off
to
lot
line.
It's
still
the
same
thing.
Is
there
any
compromise
at
all?
That
would
be
something
you
guys
could
talk
about
to
be
suitable
for
both.
You
know.
There's
no
fix
here
about
this
right.
G
Now
Jan
and
I
talked
first,
probably
good.
Two
hours
about
it
like
I,
said
I,
understand
her
frustrations
to
me,
it's
to
me,
I,
look
at
it
and
it's
it's
no
different.
If
I
raise
another
four
hundred
or
not
I'm
existing
foundation,
everything
like
that
I'm
not
going
over
to
her
side,
I'm,
not
going
over
to
Leslie
side
I'm,
not
moving
forward
with
the
house
I'm,
not
moving
backward
I'm,
just
going
straight
up
with
it
to
me.
It
common
sense
to
me,
but.
F
J
I'd
like
to
just
kind
of
chime
in
just
a
little
bit,
because
when
we
did
take
the
house
down,
we
took
the
house
down,
Lonny
Davis
took
it
down,
Lonny
dug
the
footings
in
you
know
the
the
groundwork
he
did
for
us
and
at
that
time
we
did
put
in
the
footings,
and
that
was
all
inspected
by
the
building
inspector
at
the
time
and
there
in
plenty
thick.
So
I,
don't
think.
There's
any
issue
with
that
and
it's
just
normal
8-inch
block,
that's
going
under
it,
but
I'd
also
like
to
comment.
B
Turned
on
the
old
house
a
lot
tapered
in
from
the
lake
to
the
roadside
it
requirements
on
the
south
end
of
a
lot
in
the
north
end.
Now
the
primary
house
was
like
a
foot
in
so
they
gave
him
like
five
foot
on
that
and
then,
when
they
built
the
garage,
he
come
and
requested
a
setback
on
that
one
too,
and
we
told
him
no
and
they
made
the.
A
A
That's
that
whole
side
of
the
lake
we've
looked
at
for
20
years.
We
knew
from
the
why
to
the
prop.
That's
a
substantially
low
area
or
original
concern
ten
years
ago
was
that
it
was
going
to
turn
into
a
an
RV
park
that
everybody
would
just
tear
their
stuff
down
and
bring
in
RVs,
not
pay
property
tax
and
build
a
little
gazebo
in
a
bathroom
and
if
it
gets
flooded,
it
got
flooded.
But
it's
a
tough
one.
A
That's
one
of
the
tougher
areas
we
have
in
town,
because
we've
got
million-dollar
homes
and
cabins,
and
it's
going
to
get
real
tricky
when
we
have
a
flood,
because
everybody
that's
built
up
some
of
that
water,
they're
gonna
be
safe,
but
we're
gonna
have
these
little
channels
all
over
where
the
old
homes
are
at,
but
that
you
know
that's
just
the
evolution
of
an
area.
I
guess,
and
we
knew
when
these
between
27
a
lot
of
those
lots
of
35
foot,
37
and
a
half.
A
People
will
come
in
and
they'll
have
this
dream
of
what
they
want
to
do
in.
In
a
sense
they
have
blinders
on
with
that,
and
then
you've
got
neighbors
and
it's
really
hard
to
tell
people
that
you
know
what
we're
just.
It's
not
gonna
work
in
this
time
and
place
or
whether
that's
that's
the
part
that
we,
the
chicken
dinner,
doesn't
pay
for.
We.
A
I
Or
the
house
first:
okay,
because
I
guess
I
guess
I
would
just
say
in
my
opinion,
that
considering
that
Shannon
and
Kim
can
get
the
same
square
footage
again,
not
as
convenient
as
a
28
foot
wide
width,
certainly
Janet,
as
opposed
to
that
the
other
neighbor
was
opposed
to
up
until
two
days
ago.
I'm,
not
sure
what
this.
What
this
note
is
here
I
would
I
would
I
would
lean
toward
the
24
foot
wide
garage,
so
it
stays
within
compliance
and
the
setbacks.
So.
A
A
I
E
A
F
A
F
A
F
F
F
G
A
If
that,
if
that
motion,
if
that
motion
passes,
you'd
be
able
to
walk
out
of
here,
saying
I
I'm
allowed
to
raise
it,
but
it's
gonna
have
to
be
in
a
different
spot
or
I
can
just
yeah.
That's
a
two-story,
home
or
I
can
just
say
the
heck
with
what
they
did.
I'm
just
gonna
raise
it
to
meet
the
flood
code
requirements
and
deal.
E
F
A
F
You
know
that
I'll
make
the
motion
and
the
motion
would
be
to
let
him
go
ahead
and
raise
it
up
out
of
luck.
Language
is
a
given
already
and
what
the
input
a
first
floor,
another
floor,
underneath
the
existing
structure
and
center
it
on
the
lot.
So
it
would
be
approximately
five
point
two
feet
from
each
property
line:
a.
A
F
F
B
E
B
A
Let's
go
item
number
one.
This
is
Four
Seasons
gas
station
now
knows
is
Lake
20
Lakes
top
20
in
regard
to
a
storage
building
that
when
this
property
was
originally
developed
there
there
was
included
in
the
in
the
original
plan,
was
a
storage
building
and
we
asked
for
some
drainage
things.
They
went
on
and
built
the
gas
station
and
now
are
coming
back
to
gun
drainage
right.
B
B
The
parties
at
this
time
also
did
make
a
little
adjustment
to
the
property
they
wish
to
make
the
building
slightly
longer
and
slightly
taller
to
accommodate
bigger
doors
and
then
well
just
to
accommodate
bigger
doors.
I,
don't
think
we're
increasing
the
stalls
at
all,
just
making
them
bigger,
so
they
could
actually
be
less
stalls
just
a
little
larger.
B
B
B
A
A
I'll
pull
up,
pull
up
the
site
plan
just
so.
If
anyone
hasn't
seen
these
this
happens
to
be
a
space,
it's
adjacent
to
the
county,
there's
a
there
is
a
residence
back
there.
The
one
things
well,
we
always
ask,
is
when
the
traffic
comes
in,
which
way
of
the
light
shining.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
if,
if
there's
any
overflow
a
light
that
it
it's
buffered
or
protected,
the
garages
are
going
to
be
on
the
cement
side.
There.
The
structure
is
probably
up
around
the
rip
rap
at
basin
inlet
up
there.
A
C
C
The
original
plan
had
doors
on
the
backside,
several
units,
smaller
units-
if
you
will
so
he'd,
have
on
the
I
guess
going
by
the
map
there,
the
southeast
side
of
that
building
that
lower
half
would
have
had
units
on
both
sides.
We've
actually
redrawn
this
such
that
we
don't
have
any
doors
on
the
back
side
and
so
and
versus
having
a
bunch
of
small
units.
Essentially
it's
going
to
be
lesser,
a
little
bit
larger
units.
E
C
B
A
C
A
C
I
B
A
A
conditional
use
they're
there
they
abide
by
all
the
lot
they're,
not
setting
about
the
building
back
or
anything.
It's
just
this
commercial
storage
and
ac3
commercial
zone,
which
this
is
is
still
a
conditional
use.
We
get
an
opportunity
to
look
at
them
all,
make
sure
they
kind
of
fit
and
comply
with
the
area
that
they're
in.
B
F
C
I
A
By
mr.
Stein
say
goodbye
mr.
McGuire
any
further
discussion,
seeing
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
opposed
motion
carries
final
item
on
the
agenda,
is
under
old
business
and
I'm
gonna
put
one
under
new
business
too.
By
the
way.
Don't
let
me
forget,
final
item
is
a
condition:
a
youth
grant
granted
we
granted
a
conditional
use
on
June
18th
to
allow
for
construction
of
a
storage
building
at
4:46
10th
Avenue,
and
he
would
like
us
to
consider
reconsideration.
B
B
They
really
don't
have
no
intent
of
putting
more
storage
units
on
they
were
requested
to
go
to
the
our
disease
during
your
six.
They
could
do
that.
Their
future
plans
actually
may
be
to
put
a
multi-family
residential
structure
on
this
and,
of
course,
if
they
rezone
it
under
the
condition
that
they
have
to
rezone
it
to
our
G,
then
that's
not
going
to
be
a
possibility.
You
said
when
he
talked
to
the
neighbors.
B
A
A
B
B
C
B
B
A
I
A
A
We
meet,
we
meet
in
the
first
half
of
the
month
on
a
Wednesday
and
we
meet
in
the
second
half
of
the
month
on
a
Thursday.
Thursday
is
Board
of
Adjustment
and
plan.
Commission
Wednesday
is
only
Board
of
Adjustment
that's
handled
at
noon.
The
Thursday
meeting
is
at
4:00
p.m.
we've
been
asked
to
consider
some
plan
commission
items
during
that
first
meeting
of
the
month,
which
falls
on
a
Wednesday
at
noon.
A
I
said
I'm
open
to
that,
but
if
we
do
that,
I'd,
like
the
meeting
moved
to
Thursday
because
Wednesday
afternoon
is
not
always
conducive
for
a
lot
of
people
and
we
move
it
to
4:00
p.m.
or
after
that,
because
some
of
our
meetings
as
this
get
an
hour
and
half
of
it
limits
the
amount
of
people
that
would
sit
on
our
board.
A
J
Give
up
the
noon
meeting
Pat
if
I
could
make
a
comment
on
that,
because
I
think
what
it
would
also
do
like
you
say
it
was
shorten
up
your,
but
it
would
also
allow
our
developers
to
to
plan
better
and
it
was
shortened
up
rather
than
bringing
something
and
miss
a
date.
Then
they
have
to
wait
a
month
and
a
half
before
they
can
get
back
on
the
Planning
Commission.
So
yeah
and.
J
A
Think
I
think
historically
people
a
lot
of
people
can't
get
off
work
to
get
here
at
noon.
It
was
it
was
designed
originally
when
we
did
it
when
only
the
Board
of
Adjustment
Planning
Commission
wasn't
going
to
be
the
same
board
and
it
was
just
going
to
be
done
during
the
building
season,
specifically
to
help
him
out
and
it's
become
more
caseloads,
gotten
bigger,
but
I
I'm
more
comfortable
with
an
late
afternoon.
Meeting
it
if
it
runs
over.
It
doesn't
cause
me
to
reschedule
everything
I
have
set
for
the
day.
Okay,
he's.
Okay.
A
I
F
A
M
Picture-In-Picture,
okay,
we
application
was
made
by
shoe
cards
westside
GMC
at
eighteen,
twenty
ninth
Avenue
Southwest,
to
put
in
a
non-conforming
thirty
six
foot
tall
pylon
signed
to
replace
the
existing
sign
on
their
lot.
All
public
notices
were
met
and
we
didn't
hear
anything
back.
The
only
thing
that
makes
this
thing
non-compliant
is
the
fact
that
it's
thirty
six
foot
tall
everything
else
location
where
they're
going
to
have
it
location
where
it's
going
to
be
and
size
of
the
sign.
M
A
Thank
you
that
I'll
open
the
public
hearing
if
anyone's
here
speak
on
behalf
or
against
the
when
I
when
I
read
it.
It
looked
like
to
me
personally
that
they
need
to
put
up
a
new
sign.
I
see
it's
a
beautiful
new
sign.
They're
putting
up
they
want
to
put
up
the
same
size
sign
is
what
sharps
Chevrolet
has,
because
sharp
Chevrolet
was
allowed
to
move
their
sign
when
there
was
a
road
construction
there,
which
isn't
uncommon
that
we
do.
Personally.
A
M
A
M
A
M
A
A
M
D
M
A
Sign
height
is
tricky.
We
passed
that
ordinance
and
the
other
place
quickly
wanted
to
put
a
new
sign
up
taller,
so
it
could
be
seen
from
further
away
by
the
interstate
we
see
it.
We
saw
RCS,
Cellular
I
think
it
was
over.
There
tried
to
raise
theirs,
so
it
could
be
seen
two
blocks.
There
are
two
blocks
off
the
highway
and
they
wanted
to
be
there,
but
it's
we're
still
in
the
open.
If
anyone
has
anyone
anything
to
say.
I
I
Looking
at
at
the
request
here,
it's
just
it
but
they're
talking
about
these.
The
signs
that
they're
getting
from
the
factory
from
from
from
the
GM
sign
mine,
GMC,
sign
manufacturer,
and
it's
not
uncommon
that
they
come
in
certain
standard,
Heights,
apparently
36:31
and
26
are
the
are
the
options
that
have
been
presented
and
he
can't
get
the
30-foot
one
because
he'd
be
one
foot
over
it
gets
26
foot
signed,
then
he's
going
to
be
his
references.
I'd
be
10
foot
shorter
than
he.
M
M
M
A
A
F
A
M
F
Yeah
I
understand
that,
but
the
reason
I
asked
that
was
in
my
mind,
a
36
foot
sign
on
a
major
dealership
like
that
or
35
foot.
Whatever
we're
saying
here
is
different
than
if
you're
down
the
street
a
half
a
mile
and
there's
a
100-foot
wide
lot
business
business
after
business
after
business
with
a
36
foot
high
sign.
That's
in.
A
A
F
A
And
it's
no
different
than
when
other
things.
When
sharps
came
in
and
said,
hey
we
now
sell
for
Toyota.
We
got
to
put
up
a
Toyota
sign
and
if
they
come
in
and
say
they
pick
up,
like
you
said,
a
trailer
manufacturer.
If,
if,
if
you
say
I'm
gonna
I'm,
okay
with
a
36
foot
cuz,
it's
the
only
sign
they
have,
then
we
have
to
put
a
condition
to
make
sure
it's
the
only
sign
they
have
and
then
they
would
have
a
choice.
F
A
Yeah,
like
Stan,
made
the
note
that
the
tough
part
with
that
36
with
conditions,
as
how
did
you
know
as
owners
change
down
the
road
it
has
to
be
put
in
the
chain
of
title
on
that?
Basically,
a
deed
restriction
on
that
property
gets
trickier,
trickier
to
track,
but
but
I
understand
what
I
understand.
What
you're
saying,
though,
to
go
off
I'm
just
going
to
put
one
signed,
I'd
like
as
much
of
his
ability
as
I
can
get,
but
then
it's
a
30
and
then
there's
another
30.
F
A
I
do
I
do
think
the
size
of
your
frontage.
Maybe
it's
something
we
should
look
at,
because
what
we've
done
in
our
code
when
that
sign
code
was
made,
was
we
said?
Okay,
based
on
your
frontage,
you
can
have
a
certain
number
of
signs,
but
the
size
of
the
sign
was
dictated
at
that
time
that
this
is
a
usual
and
customary
sign.
If
that
usual
and
customary
sign,
if
those
times
have
changed,
but
odds
are
they're
getting
smaller.
M
M
M
C
M
A
J
E
M
F
Well,
if
that
ordinance
is
open
for
people
to
come
back
and
ask
for
variances
the
ordinance
I
if
we're
gonna,
consider
a
variance
at
all
I
think
here
is
a
prime
example
of
where
I
would
say
it's:
okay,
because
how
many
how
many
highway
frontage
feet
did
they
have
there?
No
four
not
gonna,
ever
create
a
variance
to
the
ordinance.
That's
fine!
F
I
F
F
A
M
I
Would
say
that,
from
my
perspective,
a
sign
of
thirty
six
foot
tall
height
as
compared
to
the
city
ordinance
at
30
30
feet
with
a
lot
size
that
big
it
would
look
proportionate,
I
guess
I
would
say.
In
fact,
if
anything
and
the
30
foot
side
size
height,
it
might
look
a
little
dwarf
with
the
you
know.
What.
A
A
Motion
to
approve
from
slave
mode
motion
by
mr.
Arnold,
a
second
say
goodbye
mr.
Stein,
any
other
discussion,
I'd
like
to
say
I
would
like
you
to
take
a
look
for
our
next
meeting.
If,
as
long
as
it's
not
a
long
meeting
that
we
do
take
a
look,
give
us
a
the
the
one
on
one
on
a
sign,
height
versus
lot,
width
and
I
would
say
right
away.
You
know
if
I'm,
if
I'm,
on
a
I'm
on,
if
I
have
that
same
lot,
width,
but
a
very
narrow
right
away.
A
A
Yeah
yeah
because
you
know
like
Mark,
said
proportionately
hawai
drew
lot.
How
wide
is
the
right
away
if,
if
there
was
no
right
away
up
here,
like
there's
not
on
East
212,
that
same
signs,
gonna
look
a
lot
bigger,
because
your
car,
your
door
handle,
is
from
me
to
stanton
away
here.
Your
door,
handle
might
be
just
out
of
curiosity
measure
the
right
away
on
one
side,
just
from
the
curb
curb
to
curb
a
lot
line.
M
A
So
that
would
be.
That
would
be
an
interesting
comparison
to
get
a
couple.
Visual
comparisons
of
a
30-foot
sign,
closed
versus,
36,
foot,
fine,
fine,
I!
Think
that's
because
we
have
to.
If
we
approve
a
variance,
we
have
to
be
able
to
straight-faced
giving
reasoning.
Why
and
I
think
that's
a
legitimate
reason
why
it's
a
long
lot
and
it's
a
long
way
from
the
road.
M
A
Know,
under
the
logic
that
we
used
in
that
case,
was
the
length
of
the
lot
in
the
distance
from
the
road,
and
if
somebody
came
on
the
other
end
of
212
and
asked
for
the
same
thing,
we'd
be
able
to
say
well,
it
was
length
of
the
lot
distance
from
the
road.
Were
you
and
that
comparison,
because
I
felt
that's
the
way
that
discussion
went
was
you
know.