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A
Well
good
afternoon,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
and
welcome
to
the
Tuesday
September
6th,
the
Watertown
City
work
session
agenda.
At
this
time,
I
will
call
the
meeting
to
order,
and
the
first
up
is
discussion
of
a
community
Block
Grant,
so
I
Boys
and
Girls
Club.
You
guys
are
right
up
here,
come
up
and
introduce
yourselves
and
fill
us
in
welcome.
B
B
All
right
and
we're
just
gonna
just
just
update
you
briefly
here
with
the
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
and
our
capital
campaign
project.
Does
you
guys
know
we've
been
taken
under
this
last
year,
we're
at
a
standstill
here
with
our
net
with
our
campaign,
which
has
been
going
very,
very
well.
Liz
will
kind
of
tell
you
a
little
bit
more
specifically
on
that,
but
Justin
in
overall,
you
know
we
are
definitely
moving
forward
with
our
with
our
capital
campaign
project.
B
Things
are
very
very
busy
at
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
we're
seeing
nearly
400
kids
after
school
every
single
day,
so
we're
very
excited
to
take
over
the
the
new
space
on
the
rec
center.
We
locates
to
the
north
side
of
town,
but
with
that
we
want
to
continue
our
project
and
then,
where
we
have
an
opportunity
to
apply
for
a
community
Block
Grant.
So
we're
asking
the
city
to
be
our
sponsor
of
that
tonight
and
I'll.
Let
Liz
kind
of
continue
on
that
sure.
C
Okay,
just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
update
of
where
we're
at
so
far,
we
just
completed
our
active
part
of
our
fundraising
campaign,
just
here
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
came
out
very
successfully
raising
about
4.1
million
dollars,
we'll
follow
that
up,
ending
our
fundraising
and
the
of
the
year
in
November
in
December.
So
take
a
break
right
now
during
the
United
Way
blackout
time,
construction
planning
is
ongoing.
We
will
be
finalizing
kind
of
our
budget
and
blueprints
in
January
of
2017.
C
We
will
approve
those
and
then
go
on
to
the
bidding
process
in
either
February
or
March.
After
that
point,
we
will
then
relocate
our
club
services
to
Garfield
elementary
for
about
one
year,
just
for
safety
and
efficiency
of
the
project,
its
best
for
us
to
remove
ourselves
for
that
whole
construction
period
hope
to
begin
construction
in
mid
to
late
summer
of
2017,
and
we
will
complete
construction
looking
at
summer
of
2018
and
hope
to
move
back
into
our
beautiful
new
facility
at
that
time.
C
Our
entire
estimated
project
budget
is
four
point:
eight
million,
like
I,
said
we
have
raised
so
far
4.1
million
and
that's
where
we
are
coming
to
ask
for
your
assistance
tonight
to
help
us
with
the
last
remaining
funds
so
that
we
can
complete
the
entire
project
at
one
time.
We've
done
very
well
with
our
campaign
so
far
and
if
you
would
have
asked
us
a
year
ago,
you
know
we
didn't
really
know
where
we'd
be
exactly
so.
We
hope
to
complete
our
construction.
C
Have
a
contingency
fund
do
the
parking
and
outdoor
space,
which
is
what
we're
going
to
be
talking
to
tonight
with
the
community
Block
Grant
purchase
our
fixtures
equipment
and
also
fund
the
endowment,
so
I
have
Ted
hater
from
first
district
here
he's
our
representative
from
first
district
who's,
our
Liese,
it
liaison
with
I,
guess
the
governor's
office
and
the
community
block
grant
initiative.
Maybe
he
can
explain
a
little
bit
just
about
what
the
community
Block
Grant
is
sure.
D
The
Community
Development
Block
Grant
consists
of
HUD
funds
that
are
given
to
the
state
of
South
Dakota
on
an
annual
basis
news
for
projects
like
sewer
water
infrastructure
projects
that,
like
Boys
and
Girls,
Clubs
Head
Start
facilities,
and
this
fits
perfectly
because
one
of
the
primary
components
is
to
serve
low
and
moderate
income.
Persons
and
I
think
we're
gonna
find
out
once
the
income
survey
is
complete
with
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
families,
we're
gonna
serve
way
more
people
than
we
need.
Percentage-Wise.
C
As
you
can
see
on
the
attachment,
we
have
a
couple
of
photos,
so
what
we're
really
hoping
to
focus
on
for
the
community
Block
Grant
funds
is
our
outdoor
space.
That
would
include
the
parking
facilities
around
the
immediate
Boys
and
Girls
Club,
but
also
spreading
all
across
around
the
high
school
around
3rd
Avenue
and
11th
Street,
and
in
addition
to
the
parking
we
would
like
to
host
an
outdoor
recreation
center
for
our
youth.
That's
where
our
current
parking
lot
is
right.
C
Now
that
will
be
a
secure
fenced-in
area
with
a
playground
structure
for
square
basketball,
picnic
benches,
really
just
an
extension
of
our
indoor
space
so
that
we
can
serve
kids
in
a
safe
and
controlled
environment
when
it
is
nice
outside
to
get
them
outdoors
and
keep
them
active
and
healthy.
So
Lois,
do
you
want
to
walk
them
through
kind
of
some
of
those
high
points
of
the
drawings
and
yeah.
B
B
You
see
thinking
my
bearings
here.
This
would
be
our
new
West
entrance
here
that
would
be
facing
north
towards
Allen
Mitchell
field.
We
want
to
reconfigure
the
parking
lot,
so
it
cars
would
park
the
same
way
as
the
high
school
students
do
right
now
and
of
course,
they
would
still
have
access
to
the
parking
lot
they
use
a
good
portion
of
that,
so
it'd
be
a
really
a
win-win
for
them
and
us
as
well,
and
then,
if
you
look
again,
this
is
just
an
artist's
rendering
these.
B
That's
been
a
lot
of
fun,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
they
want
that
we
definitely
can't
do,
but
it's
it's
a
I
think
it
would
be
a
lot
nicer
to
have
something
like
this,
as
opposed
to
what
we're
currently
doing,
which
is
walking
kids
across
that
parking
lot
across
the
streets
which
gets
get
busy,
especially
during
certain
times
of
the
day,
with
Lake
Erie
Tech
in
high
school
right.
There.
C
So
the
benefits
of
the
project
really
will
be
to
reduce
drop-off
and
pickup
concerns.
Like
Lewis
said,
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
going
into
the
in
and
out
of
that
parking
lot.
So
with
our
new
west
entrance,
it
will
have
kind
of
a
one
way
in
one
way,
out
parking
structure
very
similar
to
a
school
so
that
our
immediate
customers
can
park
in
that
area
and
not
have
two-way
traffic
crossing
their
path.
C
That
will
just
increase
safety
of
walkers,
like
Lewis
said
as
well.
Many
kids
do
walk
back
and
forth
to
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
and
at
any
one
day
you
know
we
have
lots
of
kids
coming
from
many
directions
and
we
need
to
keep
the
cars
away
from
our
facility.
The
outdoor
play
factor,
I'm,
just
increasing
recreation.
You
know,
for
our
children
and
keeping
them
active,
is
always
important
providing
parent
convenience.
C
We
want
to
offer
parents,
you
know
a
great
solution
to
be
able
to
get
in
and
out
of
our
facility
very
quickly
and
then
just
I
guess
increasing
the
whole
flow
and
aesthetics
of
the
whole
project.
We
want.
You
know
the
the
parking
structure
to
flow
over
to
the
high
school
and
back
behind
on
the
east
side
of
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club,
to
make
it
look
very
uniform,
make
it
very
appealing,
I'm,
attractive
to
our
audience
and
to
the
school
district.
C
C
D
The
application
will
identify
total
project
costs,
including
the
building
renovations,
the
parking
work
in
the
outdoor
recreation
area
and
assuming
we
get
in
for
this
October
1st
deadline,
we
should
hear
back
on
funding
by
November
or
December
from
the
state
whether
the
project
has
received
funding
and
if
so,
at
what
level.
The.
C
Total
project
cost
of
the
outdoor
the
parking
facility
in
the
Recreation
Center
right
now
we
have
an
estimate
of
682,000
again,
that's
an
estimate
from
our
architect
and
our
engineer,
so
we're
we're
really
looking
in
it.
This
is
a
win-win-win
situation
for
the
city
of
Watertown,
because
that
property
is
city-owned.
C
We
will
be
helping
the
school
district
and
you
know
helping
to
maintain
and
improve
their
parking
facilities
and
also,
of
course,
a
win
for
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
for
safety
and
flow.
So
we
feel
this
is
a
good
project.
I
think
that
you
know
it
would
really
be
nice
to
complete
it
all
at
one
time
not
have
to
wait-
and
you
know
complete
this
portion
in
a
year
or
two.
C
E
Was
one
of
the
questions
it
comes
up
to
me
is:
have
they
thought
about
how
to
make
it
run
after
you
get
it
built?
Do
you
have
the
money
to
keep
it
going
then,
with
additional
staff,
I
mean
you're
talking
about
increasing
student
numbers
from
400
to
600?
No,
that's
a
question
and
I
have
said.
Well,
we.
C
Completed
a
business
plan
with
five-year
budget
projections
and
and
obviously
when
you're
serving
more
youth.
Yes,
that
is
going
to
take
more
funds
to
serve
those
youth.
Staffing,
won't
change.
You
know
too
much.
We
have
a
lot
of
you
know
reconfiguring
that
we
can
do
with
with
a
more
efficient
building.
C
Yes,
we
will
have
you
know
additional
operational
costs
and
that's
where
the
endowment
comes
into
play
as
well,
so
with
being
able
to
fund
our
endowment
fund,
you
know
we
will
be
able
to
take
a
5%
dispersement
off
that
if
we
do
need
to
you
know
per
year,
so
we've
done
the
projections.
We
feel
very
confident
with
the
added
space
that
we
will
be
able
to
maintain
a
healthy.
You
know,
budget
with,
with
keeping
things
profitable.
You
know
or
I
guess
able
to
run
our
operations
as
we
as
we
need
to.
F
F
You
know,
over
the
years
when,
when
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
of
stepped
up
to
the
plate
and
had
to
go
out
and
raise
money
to
build
expansions-
and
in
this
saying
this
ain't,
the
first
boat
you've
ever
been
in
and
put
it
that
way,
but
it's
really
exciting
to
know
the
people
of
water
don't
really
step
up
and
they
support
the
kids
and
use
the
water
tone.
You
know
that
is
the
future
of
our
cities.
So
really.
C
Exciting
to
see
that
happening,
and
if
we
are
chosen
to
be
a
you
know
a
recipient
of
the
grant
funds
that
will
be
getting
us
very
close
to
to
meeting
our
budget
where
we
feel
we
need
to
be
so.
This
is
a
really
exciting
step
for
us
to
take
and,
like
I
said,
I
think
we
have
a
very
qualified
application
with
serving
the
percentage
of
youth
that
need
to
be
disadvantaged
or
considered
a
lower
poverty
level.
A
G
G
G
G
This
past
weekend,
I
was
watching
a
little
news
segment
on
TV
and
they
talked
about
kids,
with
cancer
being
able
to
go
to
a
horse
farm
I
think
it
was
on
the
East
Coast
for
camp
and
they
talked
about
the
therapeutic
value
of
being
able
to
do
that.
The
fact
that
horses
are
gentle
and
that
you
can,
if
you
ride
it,
can
help
reduce
stress.
It
helps
with
muscle
tone
coordination
and,
as
I
watched,
that
I
thought
they
could
be
talking
about
joy
ranch.
G
They
could
be
talking
about
joy,
ranch
and
I
thought
that
was
really
cool
and,
as
I
think
about
it.
Joy,
ranches
mission
of
being
inclusive
to
all,
regardless
of
abilities,
is
what
really
caught
the
attention
of
the
Hall
of
Fame
but
I
like
to
say
that
joy
ranch
is
a
magical
place
and
it
is
the
inspiration
of
joy
that
makes
that
place
so
magical
and
so
I.
H
Thank
you,
I'm,
obviously
just
honored
beyond
belief
and
humble
to
my
knees
with
this
induction,
but
I've
I've
met
some
incredible
people
through
this
whole
process.
Some
of
the
other
inductees
and
board
members
of
the
South
Dakota
Hall
of
Fame
and
I'm
thrilled
that
I
can
represent
Watertown
in
this
process,
and
most
of
you
do
do
know
me
and
I
love
to
work
on
projects
for
our
state,
but
also
for
our
community
and
I,
just
love
to
make
life
better
for
all
the
citizens
of
South
Dakota.
So
thank
you.
A
H
A
G
H
A
That's
pretty
great
okay!
Well
we're
gonna
move
on
to
number
four
discussion
on
the
tenth
Avenue
vacation
request.
Now
this
is
also
something
that's
on
your
your
agenda
this
evening,
we'll
be
looking
at
two
items
on
there.
One
is
I,
don't
know
the
numbers
straight
out,
but
I
thought.
Maybe
we
could
just
have
a
quick
discussion
on
that
Shane
and
I'll.
Let
you
kind
of
take
it
over
and
put
that
up
on
the
screen
for
us.
Okay,.
I
I'll
do
a
little
recap.
Then.
The
area
hatched
in
yellow
was
the
first
petition
that
the
city
received,
with
the
request
to
vacate
a
portion
of
10th
Avenue
south
that
was
taken
to
the
Planning
Commission
discussed
at
length
there
and
ultimately
was
a
Pro
mended
for
approval
to
be
brought
to
the
council
for
a
subsequent
action
on
the
vacation.
I
Upon
learning
of
that
vacation,
the
owners
on
the
east,
half
of
the
block
of
10th
Avenue
South,
also
then
subsequently
submitted
a
petition
to
vacate
that
portion
of
the
roadway
as
well.
There
are
three
owners
on
the
second
vacation
where
there
was
only
one
owner
on
the
first
vacation,
so
the
the
owner
in
the
I'll
call
it
BG
pink
on
the
south
is
Warner
spice,
who
was
part
of
the
first
request,
would
get
this
Warren
G
piece
here
and
the
blue
is
I,
believe
Wiles
attorney.
I
A
F
I
It
would
take
in
order
to
improve
Tenth
Avenue
South.
You
would
have
to
remove
a
number
of
trees
in
that
grove.
That's
probably
been
shrinking
over
the
last
30
years,
but
and
this
would
take
a
fair
amount
of
fill,
we
could
squeeze
the
road
in
so
that
it's
not
that
road
can't
be
built
there,
but
it
certainly
isn't
expected
to
be
developed
in,
and
the
reality
is,
is
the
current
owners
along
there
that
are
petitioning,
for
this
would
also
be
the
folks
that
would
be
expected
to
fit
the
bill
if
the
road
was
improved.
I
F
J
J
Discussions
prior
discussions:
there
was
some
interest
in
the
value
of
that
property.
Just
gonna
wrap
two
points,
one
of
the
value
of
the
property.
If
we
had
the
intention
to
to
put
some
sort
of
a
price
tag
on
this,
and
the
second
thing
was
the
possibility
of
some
access
to
to
the
east.
Those
are
the
two
concerns
that
we
had
before
yeah
I.
J
Think
Randy's,
probably
right
I
mean
the
ads
of
this
ever
really
becoming
a
through
road
are
probably
not
very
good,
but
I
do
know
that
there
were
some
concerns
by
some
of
the
folks
that
aren't
here
tonight.
One
of
the
things
we
did
talk
about
was
a
right
of
waiver
to
protest
and
Justin.
We
discussed
that
a
little
bit,
I,
don't
know
if
that's
applicable
here
or
not,
and
especially
they're
gonna,
build
right.
J
My
understanding
is
that
the
folks
to
the
to
the
Northwest
wanted
to
I
think
that's
spies,
I
believe
we're
thinking
about
building
up
right
up
to
the
property
line.
Is
that
correct?
That's
correct,
yeah,
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
Justin.
Do
you
see
any
possibility
of
utilizing
that
right
of
waiver
to
protest
on
that
in
case
we
ever
did
want
to
put
a
road
in
if
the
thing
is
I
think
they
put
those
buildings
or
you're
just
kind
of.
K
It's
a
matter
of
you
know:
if
you
want
to
reserve
a
right-of-way
there,
you
can't
you
know
you
can't
go
through
the
process
of
vacation.
There
isn't
any
sort
of
in-between
there
that
state
statute
envisions
and
since
our
ordinances
on
vacation
derive
from
state
statute,
I
couldn't
come
across
any
authority.
That
would
allow
us
that
flexibility
just
too
bad,
but
thanks.
A
E
G
E
Really
doesn't
have
any
value
if
it's
and
I
think
one
of
the
concerns
was
make
if
that
road
ever
had
to
connect,
so
he
could
get
out
on
to
12.
That
was
one
of
the
things
that
said
well,
we
could
put
a
road
in
there
if
we
have
there.
If
we
have
the
property
there
and
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
if
I
don't
know.
If
that's
that
didn't
seem
to
be
an
issue
anyway,
you.
F
Have
a
dam
if
you
look
at
the
step
to
the
west,
they've
already
built
buildings
right
up
to
the
property
line
and
which
would
be
you
what
would
that
be
third
favor
yeah,
so
I
already
kind
of
past
that
point
of
no
return
on
that
one
so
and
as
far
as
putting
a
value
on
that
just
in
there
there's
no
way
we
can
put
a
value
on
that
is
earlier.
That's.
K
Correct
councilman,
you
know
the
the
vacation
process
is
the
one
means
of
converting
a
right-of-way
dedicated
to
public
use
to
private
use,
and
you
can't
put
a
value
on
that,
because
value
is
effectively
not
a
part
of
the
the
decision
making
process
set
out
in
statute
for
vacating.
The
the
concern
as
far
as
the
South
Dakota
Supreme
Court
has
found
is
that
the
land
cannot
be
vacated.
The
right-of-way
cannot
be
vacated
for
a
purely
private
purpose,
so
there
needs
to
be
some
sort
of
public
purpose
rationale,
be
it.
K
A
I
Yes,
sir
third
street
is
the
first
of
yes.
Third
street
is
the
furthest
west,
north
and
south,
and
fourth
Street,
of
course,
is
the
next
one.
What
I
do
want
to
do
is
maintain
some
type
of
connectivity,
whether
it
be
on
11th,
Avenue
or
12th
Avenue.
We
will
create
an
option
for
those
to
cross,
so
the
next
considerations
for
vacations
to
the
south
would
not
be
as
up
as
amenable
to
the
public.
In
our
opinion,
right.
A
A
I
That's
within
the
federal
system
that
the
Corps
has
to
follow,
and
once
we
reach
that
part
of
the
project,
we
intend
to
advertise
the
send
out
the
advertisement
for
bids
to
the
public
so
that
when
the
20-day
period
is
over,
we
can
react
with
bids
as
soon
as
possible
and
start
getting
a
construction
timeline
set
up.
So
we
anticipate
that
to
maybe
arrive
by
the
end
of
October
at
the
latest
and
is.
I
We
are
proposing
to
do
a
steel
sheet,
pile
we're
extension,
which
is
essentially
the
same
type
of
material
that
exists
in
the
current
we're.
It
will
be
either
tied
to
or
overlap
the
existing
we're
on
the
east
end
and
it
will
extend
up
to
the
higher
ground
to
the
east.
Approximately
360
feet
so
with
the
idea
of
the
forks
extension
of
360
feet
is
that
it
would
help
cut
off
any
future
bends
in
the
river
that
would
try
to
develop
and
cut
off
those
as
well
for
the
future.
So
and.
I
A
I
J
A
I
Anticipating
that
our
our
estimate
is
high,
because
we
haven't
done
this
type
of
work
for
50
years,
not
to
this
extent,
so
it
we're
just
kind
of
throwing
a
bigger
number
out
there
so
that
we
don't
get
shocked
from
you
know.
We
want
to
be
realistic
on
the
high
side,
not
realistic
on
the
low
side.
So
my.
E
L
F
I
F
I
A
A
Mean
with
the
reach
that's
over
there
right
now,
I
did
I,
don't
know.
Have
you
guys
got
any
more
questions
on
that,
because
that's
on
the
consent
agenda
and
that
will
be
approved
tonight
through
that
way,
if
you,
if
you
still
go
so
if
there's
not
I'm
going
to
step
backwards,
I
did
slip
on
that.
One
discussion
on
a
city
partition
participation,
program
for
cost-sharing
and
private
installation
of
curb
and
gutter
and
Shane-
that's
yours
also,
if
you
want
to
this,
is
something
that
you've
been
looking
at
and
just
kind
of.
I
Thank
you
Mir.
As
you
know,
we've
had
a
long
term
program
out
there,
which
we
cost
your
sidewalk
improvements
and
maintenance
of
sidewalk
has
always
been
mandated
that
property
owners
are
responsible
for
that.
However,
the
city
to
inspire
people
to
you
utilize
and
replace
their
sidewalks
when
they
become
dilapidated
and
and
unusable
to
the
public,
we've
decided
to
participate
up
to
two
dollars,
a
square
foot
to
give
them
an
incentive
to
place
their
sidewalks
sooner
than
wait
for
somebody
to
fall
and
get
hurt
or
or
some
accident
to
happen.
I
So
what
we
do
is
we
we
kind
of
wonder:
should
we
extend
our
public
program
into
segments
of
replacement
for
curb
and
gutter
and
as
we
have
it
right
now,
I
have
had
a
couple
requests
for
that
type
of
thing.
I
did
approve
one
earlier
this
year,
but
it
was
a
hundred
percent
paid
by
the
property
owner
because
he
didn't
have
curb
and
gutter
before
and
he
wanted
it.
I
We
made
sure
that
we
did
the
engineering
to
make
sure
that
it
got
built
to
city
standards
and
angin
was
done
correctly,
but
that
was
a
bill
that
a
private
individual
that
didn't
have
curb
paid
for.
So
now,
what
we're
being
asked
is
and
I
have
a
current
request
and
if
my
screen
is
up
on
there,
this
is
in
Marina
Bay.
This
is
a
cul-de-sac
around
the
south
end
of
Marina
Bay
and
as
I
understand
it.
I
So,
as
you
can
see,
this
is
we're
looking
south
and
you
can
see
that
the
snowplows
have
broken
up
this
curb
in
several
locations
around
the
this
one's
intentional
I'll
go
forward
here
a
little
bit.
This
one
is
an
intentional
lunch
that
handles
the
drainage
off
of
here
in
law's
water
to
leave
the
cold
cul-de-sac
and
end
up
in
the
lake
via
the
lot
next
to
it,
but
the
hummers
association
there
is
interested
in
replacing
this
beat-up
curb
they're,
proposing
to
do
a
what's
called
a
mountable.
I
J
I
J
Lot
of
this,
just
aesthetics
or
I
mean,
is
that
does
that
curb
and
gutter
functional
and
in
an
honest,
the
same
question
for
sidewalks
to
who
determines
at
what
point
the
disrepair
of
a
sidewalk
or
a
curb
would
be
applicable,
for
you
know
that
we
could
fund
that.
Who
decides
that
I
mean
if
you
had
a
guys
today,
you
know
decided
like
I've
kept
like
cracks
in
it,
didn't
look
very
good
anymore.
It
just
like
to
put
a
new
one
in
you.
J
I
I
suppose
the
sidewalk
program,
that's
mostly
on
the
honor
system.
You
know
somebody
brings
in
this
being
honest.
Most
people
aren't
going
to
invest
the
you
know
a
thousand
dollars
or
more
in
a
sidewalk
replacement
unless
they
know
that
they're
worried
about
somebody
tripping
and
falling
get
hurt.
This
carbon
is
a
slightly
different
animal
and
that's
why
we're
here
discussing
this
because
it
is,
it
is
different
than
a
sidewalk
where
people
are
expected
to
walk
and
travel.
In
my
opinion,
this
curb
looks
bad,
but
it
is
still
fairly
functional.
I
The
there
are
other
areas
in
town
where
I
would
tell
you
that
it's
not
functional.
For
instance,
we
have
on
our
schedule
for
2016
of
mirth
15th
Street
up
near
14th
Avenue
and
that's
some
places
where
the
curb
has
been
jacked
or
owned
by
frost
it's
you
know.
Water
is
not
draining
correctly
Louis
County
issues,
and
it's
more
more
important
for
me
to
maybe
take
care
of
some
of
these
private
small
issues
as
they
come
up
like,
for
instance,
I.
I
If,
if
we
have
beat
up
curb-
or
we
have
a
code-
that's
settled
in
this
and
functioning
correctly-
we
don't
have
the
resources
to
go
after
all,
of
those
robbed
can't
take
care
of
them
all
on
his
budget
either.
So
the
real
question
is:
do
we
want
to
entertain
a
system
for
curb
and
gutter
similar
to
what
we
are
with
the
sidewalk,
and
that
would
be
a
cost
share?
I
I
I
I
wouldn't
exceed
$20
a
foot
myself,
but
I
wouldn't
recommend
that,
but
you
know
we
small
sex
sections
occurred
like
what's
being
requested.
In
this
instance,
we
would
probably
expect
$40
a
a
fort
or
higher,
and
actually
what
we
were
told
on
this
case
is
that
it
would
be
higher
than
$40
a
foot
to
get
this
done.
They
have
a
contractor
that
that
has
identified
that
they
would
do
this
work
for
$4,000.
We
would
probably
expect
it
to
be
about
2800.
You
know
something
like
that,
but
so.
A
G
B
I
And
know
that
first
of
all,
I
would
only
want
to
consider
places
that
are
modern,
curb
eye,
I.
Consider
this
a
modern
curb
section.
We
have
a
lot
of
town
that
it
just
has
that
old
square
coupe,
which
is
only
the
back
and
no
gutter.
Pan
I,
would
like
to
categorically
exclude
all
exclude
all
those
from
the
consideration
of
the
program.
So
we
would
look
at.
I
This
is
a
great
example
of
why
it
needs
to
be
discussed
here
on
this
on
this
request.
But
it's
a
it's
a
significant
issue.
I
would
like
it
if,
if
you
could,
when
you're,
driving
to
and
from
work
or
town,
especially
in
the
portions
of
the
town
that
are
our
1970s
and
newer,
look
around
and
see
how
many
dips
in
the
curb
you
see
how
many
places
does
the
water
not
make
it
to
a
catch
basin
because
of
the
water?
You
know
water
flows
to
it,
and
then
it
sits
in
a
puddle.
I
You
know:
we've
had
some
recent
rain
showers,
probably
still
fair
amount
of
puddles
out
there,
and
and
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
a
little
program
like
this
could
fix
and
we
would
have
to
fix
a
budget
mayor
and
once
that
budget
exhausted,
the
people
have
to
wait
till
the
next
year
to
be
on
the
list.
If.
D
A
I
But
they
require
a
substantial
project
to
fix,
because
you
need
to
fix
those
grades
from
in
the
end
of
a
block.
Not
just
little
patches
was
what
I'm
expecting
needs
to
be.
You
know
20
to
30
foot
patches,
I'm,
not
expecting
you
know
blocks
and
blocks
or
hundreds
of
feet.
No,
because
most
people
honestly
aren't
gonna,
spend
$40
a
foot
for
for
a
hundred
foot
section
to
do
that.
I
I
mean
I,
don't
I
don't
have
four
thousand
dollars
to
throw
in
the
public
street,
so
I
would
put
up
with
the
headache
before
I
would
invest
in
that,
but
so
I
I'm
looking
at
a
little
bit
smaller
scope
than
what
this
request
is,
but
that
I
just
want
to
be
considered
and
I'm
at
the
liberty
of
whatever
the
council
likes
to
do.
But.
J
J
I
I
J
F
I
get
one
quick
question
for
Shelley
or
Shane.
Whoever
can
answer
it,
and
maybe
it's
unfair
to
ask,
because
you
don't
have
your
proper
books
with
you,
but
do
we
set
aside
at
X
amount
of
dollars
over
year
for
the
sidewalk
project?
Yes,
no
correct.
Has
it
ever
been
reached?
Well,
we
set
aside
or
ever
been
ever.
We
ever
had
to
turn
anybody
down
for
no.
M
You
know
another
20
years
down
the
road
or
something
yes,
I
would
agree,
yes,
dysfunctional,
but
how
many
of
you
would
like
to
have
a
curve
like
this
outside
your
house,
we
have
spent
a
lot
of
money
out
there
over
the
10
years
that
I've
been
there
improving
our
property.
We
repainted
everything
we
put
new
roof
shingles
on
we've
done
a
lot
of
individual
real
landscaping
on
our
property.
M
We've
done
a
lot
of
things
to
make
it
look
good
and
we're
proud
of
it,
but
we're
not
real
proud
of
this,
and
our
feeling
is
that
this
damage
was
caused
by
the
city,
which
I
think
anybody
with
any
reasonable
approach
to
this
I'm,
not
a
rocket
scientist
but
I'm,
a
lake
scientist
and
I
know
a
few
things
and
I
would
say
that
this
is
damage
done
by
the
city,
and
we
would
like
it
to
look
better
we'd,
like
the
city
to
participate.
My
office
take
care
of
it.
A
O
That
out
there
we
do
have
a
contractor
that
blades,
that
up
for
us
and
I
personally
haven't
been
out
there
to
see
if
it's
always
getting
circled
up
or
pushed
to
the
end
and
push
to
the
end.
So
it
is,
we
do
at
different
in
town
as
what
the
deal
is
so,
but
we
have
had
calls
from
locations
out
at
the
lake
that
called
the
sacks,
mainly
where
we've
gotten
complaints.
So
we
have
went
out
and
cleaned
them
up
and
when
we
do
one
out
there,
we
do
them
all.
Can.
O
F
N
There
any
way
kind
of
address
this
to
the
whoever
is
there
any
way
to
you
know
maintain
that
snow,
like
kind
of
piggybacking
off
of
Steve.
Is
there
anywhere
in
that
property
that
the
snow
can
just
be
pushed
and
maintained
there?
So
you
know
I
know
we
have
a
different
set
up
where
I
live,
but
we
maintain
all
of
our
snow
all
year
long.
M
If
I
could
speak
to
that,
there
may
be
some
possibilities,
but
again
I
mentioned
I'm.
A
lake
scientist
I've
tried
to
help
clean
up
lake
and
pesco
Lake
Pelican
the
Upper
Big
Sioux
River
watershed
for
over
30
years,
still
working
on
it,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
taking
the
stand.
You
did
on
Stoney
Point
and
we
really
appreciate
that.
But
in
any
case
one
of
the
things
I
picked
up
along
the
way
over
the
years
is
that
you
want
to
do
everything
possible
to
keep
contaminants
out
of
our.
M
A
L
F
I
We
could,
if
you
want
I,
mean
actually
we're
subs
about
subsidizing,
a
private
improvement
of
a
public
roadway
right
now.
Okay,
so
because
the
curb
is
once
it's
installed,
it's
turned
over
to
the
public
and
we
own
it
maintain
it.
So
actually
what
we're
doing
is
encouraging
if,
if
somebody
has
a
problem
in
front
of
their
house-
and
they
want
to
take
care
of
it,
but
we
don't
have
the
resources
to
go
after
that
whole
block,
and
they
want
to
fix
something
right
in
front
of
their
house.
I
A
A
This
is
a
spot
folks
right
to
the
right
there
right
there
Shane
is
where
you're
looking
at
this
is
enemy
number
15
on
your
council
agenda
this
evening.
What
the
what
the
hospital
is
doing
is,
you
know,
they're
doing
an
expansion
with
the
dermatology
clinic
and
so
on,
which
will
be
to
the
east
southeast
of
their
Hospital.
A
What
the
hospital
is
looking
at
doing
right,
where
he
has
his
cursor
at,
is
putting
improvements
there
they're
looking
at
putting
pavement
in
infrastructure
in
lighting
in
and
then
a
temporary
dermatology
clinic,
okay,
everybody
with
me
on
that
so
far.
So
what
the
hospital
is
asking
us
is
if
we
would
lease
them
that
land
and
they
would
do
those
improvements
by
putting
in
the
parking
lot,
they
would
keep
the
parking
lot
clean
year-round
and
in
2018
when
the
hospital
was
completed.
A
They
would
then
remove
the
temporary
dermatology
building
and
we
would
be
asking
for
which
we
are
already
asking
someone
to
build
a
warming
house
for
kids
to
go
up
and
down
the
hill
that
they
can
put
in
there
and
just
set
right
down
and,
as
I
said,
the
hospital
will
continue
to
keep
the
parking
lot
clean
floors,
maybe
kind
of
a
win-win
situation,
and
what
we're
looking
at
is
a
very
minimal
lease
for
the
land
for
them
to
put
in
that
infrastructure.
Basically,
for
us
at
a
dollar
a
year,
I
believe
is
what
it
is.
A
A
A
K
You
see
here
are
two
lots
and
those
two
Lots
correspond
to
curling's
out
lot.
One.
The
city
owns
this
portion
down
below
here,
and
the
hospital
owns
this
portion
up
here
now.
There
was
a
point
in
time
when
the
city
owned
both
parcels,
this
portion
down
below
was
provided
to
the
city
in
the
70s
and
then
at
some
point
later
on
or
was
provided
in
the
70s,
and
then
this
portion
was
provided
to
the
city
by
st.
Ann's
Hospital.
K
Since
that
time,
this
portion
has
reverted
back
to
Saint
Anne's
now
Prairie
lakes
and
the
city
has
kept
this
portion.
This
portion
down
below
has
no
encumbrance
on
its
land
use.
This
portion
up
here
when
Saint
Anne
deeded
it
over
to
the
city,
did
have
a
restriction
that
it
be
used
for
park
purposes,
but
it
has
since
gone
back
to
prairie
lakes,
hospital
deed
to
that
land
has,
and
the
city
has
provided
a
100-foot
strip
here
to
prairie
lakes,
where
the
requirement
there
is
that
they
use
this
100-foot
strip
for
parking-lot
purposes.
K
K
Zuma,
that's
a
very
good
question:
I,
don't
have
the
the
deed
information
here
at
City
Hall,
because
obviously
we
don't
have
it
anymore.
The
hundred-foot
portion
that
I
mentioned
here
was
deeded
over
to
to
Prairie
lakes
Hospital
in
1990,
so
presumably
around
that
time.
If,
if
we
were
deeding
that
over
for
parking-lot
purposes
and
the
parking
lot
is
now
on
that
whole
chunk,
I
would
assume
without
having
done
the
Register
of
Deeds
research
that
that
occurred
in
1990.
P
K
Were
the
northern
portion
was
designated
as
parkland,
but
it
was
designated
by
st.
Ann's
Hospital
and
their
successors
now
are
prairie
lakes,
and
so
you
know
insofar
as
there's
any
restriction
on
that
property.
Having
reverted
back
to
the
original
you
know.
Encumber,
if
you
will
is,
is
a
good
question,
but
we
obviously
don't
have
title
to
that
land
so
because.
P
That
is
always
something
that
I've
always
been
anybody
up
in
that
neighborhood
and
many
people
have
always
stood
by
in
including
the
Park
and
Rec
board
is
that
that
was
property
that
was
supposed
to
be
maintained.
Just
as
is
because
I
know
when
they
built
the
retention
pond.
You
can
see
it
at
the
south
end
down
there
yeah
right
south,
a
little
farther
right
there.
I
know
there
was
quite
a
discussion
when
that
was
down
there,
but
it
wasn't
a
structure
it
was
just
an
earthen.
Holding
pond
is
what
it
was.
P
A
A
K
On
the
deed,
that's
right,
I
have
a
copy
of
it
right
here.
The
warranty
deed
from
Merle,
Whitwam
and
Alice
Cate
Whitwam
has
this
is
dated.
April
23rd
1973
has
no
encumbrance
on
it,
as
st.
Ann's
deed
did
specifying
that
it
be
for
park
purposes.
Rather,
all
it
says
is
it
gives
the
legal
description
and
transfer
constitutes
a
gift,
no
transfer
tax
required.
That's
the
extent
of
what.
A
K
And
and
I
would
add
mayor
that
this
matter
did
come
up
before
the
City
Council
in
the
early
90s,
when
there
was
a
push
to
have
that
land
converted
into
a
park
and
what
happened
is
at
the
last
minute.
Prairie
lakes
came
through
at
the
time
and
wrote
a
letter
to
the
City
Council
asking
for
reconsideration
because
they
had
information
that
showed
that
mr.
Whitwam
did
not
want
any
encumbrance
on
the
land
and
it'll
require
going
back
into
my
memory
banks,
but
they
had
quotes
from
mr.
K
Whitwam
saying
that
land
should
not
be
dedicated
for
park
purposes.
He
had
relatives
that
served
on
the
City
Council
and
he
was
aware
of
the
importance
of
not
having
any
sort
of
dedicated
use
for
that
land,
providing
flexibility
to
the
City
Council.
That's
just
my
recollection
of
what
was
in
that
letter
from
prairie
lakes,
but
that's
what
kept
that
land
from
being
dedicated
as
a
park
in
the
early
90s.
A
A
A
P
L
K
A
E
If
she's
up
here
on
Saturday
and
Sunday,
she
doesn't
get
the
newspaper,
she
doesn't
read
the
anything
so
theoretically
she
could
put
her
garbage
can
out
when
she
leaves
on
Sunday
thinking
it's
going
to
be
out
on
Monday
and
it
will
sit
there
until
the
next
Friday.
The
question
came
to
me
as
a
concern,
as
could
we
send
an
email
to
people
and
they're
just
asking
a
question:
could
we
send
an
email
to
people
who
have
property
on
the
lake
that
don't
live
in
that
property?
E
It's
just
not
just
it's
another
home,
but
it's
not
where
they
reside
in
my
daughter's,
been
here
five
times
this
summer
on
the
weekends.
Well
I
take
care
of
her
garbage.
It's
not
a
problem
for
her,
but
the
next-door
neighbors
from
Sioux,
Falls
and
I.
Don't
know
who's
told
them
or
so
is
there
a
way
to
let
people
who
live
out
of
town
know
what
the
situation
is.
L
F
A
A
Q
One
of
the
topics
that
we've
been
talking
about
is
the
phone
system,
the
the
centralized
servers
the
networking
in
between
in
between
those.
So
what
I
wanted
to
do
is
just
give
you
guys
kind
of
an
idea
of
what
we're
looking
at
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
big
enough,
but
right
now
you
can
kind
of
see
that
we've
got
multiple
different.
Q
Internet
connections
on
each
one
of
our
departments
and
we've
got
a
couple,
fiber
connections
that
we
utilize,
but
we
also
still
have
our
dedicated
internet
connections
at
those
departments.
Even
and
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
give
you
an
idea
that
this
is
how
it's
currently
working.
It's
multiple
businesses,
multiple
different,
you
know,
networks
that
we
manage
and
what
we're
proposing
and
you'll
see.
Q
Next,
we,
our
next
meeting,
is
a
structure
that
looks
more
like
this,
where
we
don't
have
all
those
internet
connections
and
we
we
pipe
them
all
to
a
central
city
hall,
with
a
with
replication
over
to
the
police
department
and
have
and
have
a
centralized
internet,
and
this
is
all
in
conjunction
with
a
phone
system
that
would
be
through
vast,
its
cloud-based
system,
and
that's
my
that'll
be
a
recommendation
that
I'll
bring
up
next
week.
Our
sorry
next
council
management
meeting
just
again
give
you
some
background,
as
this
has
been
on
my
plate.
Q
Since
the
day
I
started
is
I've
been
hearing
that
we
need
new
foams
at
City
Hall.
We
need
to
find
a
phone
system
for
the
community
center
and
Fire
I
know
the
fire
departments
is
getting
relatively
dated
too,
so
we've
got
some
phone
needs
and
then
also
since
day,
one
we've
always
been
talking
about
this
fiber
project.
How
are
we
going
to
get
this
thing
off
the
ground
so
we're
trying
what's
great
about
this
is
if
we're
trying
to
hit
two
birds
on
stone
and
we
can
bounce
through
the
whole
Fiber
project.
Q
Q
Biggest
factor
there
is
it
cost,
can
we
afford
it
and
then
VPNs
are
a
little
slow
and
a
little
more
unreliable.
So
we're
trying
to
my
am
I
talking
too
much
how
it's
so,
where
we
went
through
a
number
of
different
scenarios
where
we
thought
that
that
it
would
make
sense
to
what's
what
makes
the
most
sense
we're
kind
of
at
a
standstill.
Q
We
either
spend
too
much
money
or
it
takes
forever
to
get
done
well
in
conversations
with
vast,
as
I
brought
this
up,
they
said:
how
can
we
help
you
and
I
said
well,
I'll
tell
you
what
I
talked
to
Mitchell
and
their
local
ISPs
work
with
them
and
give
them
very
good
rates
on
MPLS
lines.
I
said
you
know,
it'd
be
nice.
Q
If
we
had
a
partnership
like
that
and
they
they
kind
of
hold
Jesus
guy,
you
know,
so
they
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
they
say
if
you
guys
are
willing
to
look
at
a
phone
system
through
us
and
work
on
a
dedicated
internet.
We
will
give
you
an
MPLS
line
at
the
locations
with
phones
and
I
went
whoa.
That's
that's
a
that's!
A
quite
a
deal
to
give
you
an
idea.
Q
Each
one
of
these
lines:
I'm
estimating
$400
a
month,
is
an
MPLS
line
and,
and
that's
probably
on
the
low
side,
so
we're
looking
at
16
different
locations
where
we'll
actually
where
we
could
actually
have
those
MPLS
lines
and
they're
providing
that
free
of
charge.
If
we
obviously
go
and
work
out
the
phone
system
and
a
centralized
internet
connection,
I.
L
L
Q
J
G
Q
A
I'd
like
to
just
step
in
Spence,
you
know
just
so
you
guys
get
an
idea.
What
why
we're
doing
it
when
Spencer
came
up
or
one
of
the
goals
that
we've
had
together
is
that
we
get
everything
kind
of
centralized
for
him,
and
this
really
has
worked
out
to
be
an
extremely
good
thing
for
you:
cost-wise
efficiency,
wise
phone
wives.
You
know,
because
we've
had
dollars
budgeted
for
City
Hall
and
for
other
areas
to
get
new
phone
services.
A
Q
It
would
take
a
little
bit
of
time
just
so.
You
know
that
I
I'm
kind
of
giving
you
the
two-second
tour
but
I
I
got
seven
I
got
Severn
a
phone
system
provider,
people
that
quoted
me
systems,
I
had
seven
on-premise
quotes
and
three
cloud-based
quotes.
So
I
mean
we.
We
we
did
a
deep
dive
here.
You
know,
so
it's
not
like
an
old
fast,
knocking
knock
on
the
door
and
we
went
with
them,
as
this
has
been
a
very
long
process
and
a
lot
of
research
being
done
on
this
I'll.
J
N
Q
Q
A
G
R
Of
all
the
options,
so
we're
we're
good
with
that
and
as
far
as
as
the
money
I
guess,
I've
always
had
the
understanding
that,
if
it's
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city
and
in
the
long
run
we're
basically
changing
capital
dollars
into
operating
dollars.
And
it's
just
it's
going
to
be
something
ongoing
that
that
the
mayor
and
I
are
gonna,
have
to
figure
out
how
to
make
work.
But
if
it's
in
the
best
interests
of
the
city,
we're
gonna
figure
that
out
and
I
think
it.
F
F
R
L
Q
N
Does
okay,
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
server
setup
and
all
those
kind
of
things
the
phone
system
does
that
have
some
significant
advantages.
I
know
you've
been
trying
to
get
it
all.
You
know
so
that
we
would
be
able
to
pick
up
a
phone
and
not
me
personally
but
I
mean
not
have
to
dial
here
I'm
saying,
can
you
speak
a
little
bit.
A
Q
Crazy,
but
absolutely
one
of
the
biggest
advantages
with
a
cloud-based
phone
system
is,
let's
just
say
down
the
road
there.
A
new
building
gets
built,
it's
a
pretty
big
deal
if
we
got
to
get
tribe
retrench
there,
and
you
know,
depending
on
where
lands
on
an
on-premise
system
on
a
cloud-based
system
is
as
long
as
we
have
internet,
we
can
at
least
have
phones.
So
that
was
the
biggest
thing
is
we
can
pick
up
these
cloud-based
phones
and
plop
them
anywhere
pretty
much
with
Internet?
Q
The
other
thing
is:
if
we're
talking
about
a
long,
long
time
frame
to
get
a
city-wide
phone
system,
I
mean
to
get
all
the
fiber
trenched
and
to
get
the
network
connectivity.
This
kind
of
simplifies
it,
and
even
if
we
don't
have
you
know,
even
if
we
don't,
you
know,
get
past
all
these
internet
connections.
If
we
have
those,
if
we
have
this
cloud-based
system
is
we
can
simply
make
it
call
an
extension
like
we're
all
on
the
same
building.
Q
There's
also
another
added
advantage
to
this
phone
system
is
there'd,
also
be
something
called
UCC
where
you
can
tell
if
someone's
on
the
phone
or,
if
you
want
to
chat,
you
know
just
a
quick
hey.
Are
you
busy?
Can
I
stop
by
to
run
this
by
yeah
there's
some
chat
functionality
and
also
cell
phone
pairing
potential
for
people
with
City
cellphone
stipends,
like
department
heads,
so
it's
it's
pretty
feature-rich
I.
Q
You
know
the
only
the
only
concern
I
see
with
this
is
it
would
be
nice
and
I
know
that
we're
I'm
asking
for
for
a
change
of
money,
but
that
that
twenty
five
thousand
would
definitely
help
get
the
polishes
off
this
year.
Assuming
we
can
get
the
twenty
five
thousand
and
this
and
this
process
going,
but
if
we
can
probably
make
it
work
without
it,
it's
just
it's,
it
might
be
cutting
it
a
little
close
if
we
need
firewalls
or
switching
you
know
just
to
we
could
probably
get
by
though
these.