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A
A
We
would
we
have
the
ability
to
have
down
here.
Tell
us
about
the
it's.
The
permit
form
that
you
worked
on
with
chip
premise
right.
Would
you
like
to
come
to
the
microphone
and
Ryder
shot?
Has
helped
our
fire
department
come
up
with
a
reasonable
permit
for
modification,
and
he
is
just
going
to
share
a
couple
of
words
real
quick
about
it.
B
Testing
there
we
go
yeah,
I
promised
Albertson
I'd
be
under
five
minutes,
so
I'm
gonna
try
and
even
do
it
quicker
than
the
acts
I
know.
I
know
you
have
a
lot
of
things
on
your
agenda.
What
you
see
in
front
of
you
is
just
the
form
that
should
now
be
more
up
to
speed
with
today's
standard
terminology
and
so
kind
of
study,
the
industry
wide
and
then
I
shared
it
with
chip
and
years
I
can
tell
everything
should
be
covered
in
this.
B
B
B
That
is
that
they
give
their
fire
department
the
the
lead
way
to
make
the
decisions
on
these
permits.
So
you
wouldn't
have
to
necessarily
look
at
every
permit
request
that
comes
before
you
I
think
in
in
them.
Just
in
being,
you
know,
conscious
of
your
time,
you
have
a
good
fire
department
here.
I
would
say
you
know,
release
chip
or
Doug
or
whoever
to
make
those
decisions
and
see
how
that
goes
and
for
some
reason
it
doesn't
go
well.
B
You
can
always
step
in
and
say
we
can
change
that,
but
I
really
think
it's
one
thing
that
would
buy
you
guys
some
time
I,
don't
know
how
important
it
is
for
you
to
have
to
look
through
every
permit,
that's
coming
through
when
you
have
a
fire
department.
That's
already,
you
know,
taking
a
close
look
at
it,
they're
scrutinizing
and
making
sure
everything's
up
to
speed.
So
that'd
be
my
one
recommendation
with
that.
Dan
am
I
under
five
okay?
So
so,
unless
there's
any
questions
I'll,
let
you
guys
get
to
the
rest
of
your
meeting.
B
C
B
B
We
thought
we'd
give
it
a
test,
run
Glenn.
So
when
we
got
the
call
from
the
high
school
from
Steve
Moore
and
he
asked
if
we
would
do
that
for
the
brain
of
W,
again
I
thought,
let's
test
her
on
it,
we'll
get
it
in
front
of
you.
You
know
and
there's
a
good
case
in
point.
Sometimes
we
get
a
request
like
that,
and
it's
only
a
few
days
in
advance
of
a
show
or
a
display,
and
you
might
not
even
have
on
a
council
meeting.
B
So
you
know,
I
do
feel
that
giving
the
fire
department
that
free
freedom
to
maybe
make
those
decisions
might
be
their
best
interest
and,
like
I,
say
the
city
of
Sioux
Falls.
Does
this
and
others
do
also
I'm
sure,
but
but
that's
entirely
your
decision,
but
just
a
recommendation
I
might
make.
So
thanks.
B
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay
item
number
two
is
presentation,
review
and
public
input
on
the
proposed
long-term
capital
improvement
plan
for
fun,
212
capital
improvement
sales
tax
fund
proposed
capital
improvement
plan
book
can
be
found
on
the
city's
website
under
government
/
department,
/
finance
and
a
hardcopy
is
also
available
for
viewing
in
the
finance
office.
A
D
Can
only
start
the
conversation
you'll
find
it.
Hopefully
everybody
has
their
proposed
budget
books.
You
will
find.
Let
me
get
my
cheaters
on
cuz.
That's
small
print
38
is
a
capital
improvement
sales
tax
fund
at
the
top
you'll
see
the
department
description
and
that
outlines
what
the
second
penny
can
be
used
for
and
the
first
and,
of
course
on
this
we
don't
talk
about
debt
because
that's
a
year-to-year
commitment,
so
we
don't
put
that
on
our
long
term,
capital
or
equipment,
but
the
first
part
of
it
is
the
annual
program.
D
That's
something
that
is
done
annually.
It's
it's.
You
know
they
have
the
plan,
but
it's
not
always
given
it's
not
always
named
kind
of
as
to
be
determined
or
as
requested,
and
so,
if
you
guys
have
any
questions
about
those,
the
only
thing
that
I
will
make
a
comment
on
is
for
the
mill
and
overlay
program.
D
That
amount
was
changed
to
reflect
that
2018
amount
of
nine
hundred
thousand
and
in
the
sealcoat
cracked
seal
is
the
same
as
what
it's
been
for
last
couple
years:
sidewalk
curb
and
gutter
program
that
one
the
ad
a
piece
of
it
is
I.
Think
pretty
well
complete,
but
we
do
still
have
that
program
where,
if
people
do
their
sidewalks,
they
have
the
opportunity
to
get
a
portion
of
that
reimbursed.
D
Unless
you
want
to
change
how
you're
doing
that
the
traffic
signal
improvements
has
gone
down,
but
there
have
been
some
instances
in
the
past
where,
due
to
storms
due
to
people
with
a
little
reckless
driving,
have
run
into
them,
whether
it's
the
actual
pulls
themselves,
whether
it's
the
box
that
has
all
the
guts
that
makes
them
go,
that
they
are
expensive
and
so
to
have
them
come
out
of
somebody's
operating
budget.
It's
just
easier
to
have
some
money
set
aside
for
some
of
those
big
expenditures.
D
It's
it's
to
the
eight
nine
ten
million
dollar
budget
in
here
it's
pretty
minor,
but
it
was
felt
that
it
needed
to
stay
in
for
some
of
those
unanticipated
and
then,
of
course,
the
downtown
parking
alley.
We've
been
having
an
effort
to
get
some
of
that
transformed
in
the
future
that
could
maybe
be
expanded
to
other
alley
projects.
That's
up
to
you
guys!
D
Well,
you
know
how
far
you
want
to
take
the
alley
portion
of
it
or
whether
you
just
want
to
keep
it
to
the
downtown,
but
I
think
there's
still
some
projects
for
the
downtown
area.
For
these
outgoing
years
I
see
Shane
is
back
Thank,
You,
Shane,
cuz
I
wasn't
gonna.
Do
the
rest
of
this
by
myself
my
my
extensive
knowledge
ends
at
these
annual
programs.
D
D
As
you
guys
know,
we
partnered
with
the
state
with
a
grant
to
do
a
pavement
management
system
and
they
went
through
when
they
I,
don't
know
the
technical
term,
but
they
basically
punched
holes
in
the
street
and
they
and
they
did
some
research
and
they
came
out
and
they
graded
everything
and
threw
everything
in
a
big
database
and
gave
it
to
engineering
and
so
based
on
that
data.
Based
on
on
what
came
out,
they
came
I.
D
Won't
even
make
a
comment:
they
came
up
with
a
long
term
plan
and
so
I
will
let
him
say
more
about
what
that
whole
process
was
what
the
report
came.
The
contents
of
it
how
they
came
up
with
the
five-year
some
of
this
you'll
see
was
in
2018
or
yeah
2018.
That
did
not
that
got
cut
because
of
the
budget
constraints,
and
so
those
have
been
put
back
into
the
long
term
and
you'll
see
those
few
in
nineteen
I.
D
Think
one
in
2021
if
I
remember
correctly,
but
at
this
point,
I'll
just
kind
of
turn
it
over
to
Shane
and
let
him
explain
the
process
and
how
he
came
up
with
the
projects
and
mayor
can
chime
in.
If,
if
you
want
to-
and
it
was
kind
of
something
that
they
talked
about
and
I
just
sat
and
listened
so
Jean
people.
F
The
sealcoat
is
good
overlay
part.
You
know.
I
had
mentioned
here
a
while
back
about
getting
back
to
that
12,000
ton
of
mix
that
we
used
to
do
every
year,
we're
down
to
about
ninety
three
hundred
ton
of
mix
for
about
that
eight
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollar
mark.
So
to
get
there,
we
need
to
be
over
a
million
dollars
to
get
close
to
that
twelve
thousand
ton
again
we're
slowly
working
our
way
up
is
when
I'm
trying
so.
A
Eventually,
I'd
like
to
get
to
the
point
where
we
actually
have
a
better
handle
on
what
what
we
need
to
stay
on
top
and
and
we've
we've
got
the
first
step
done
with
this
pavement
management
system
and
we've
got
a
basis
for
understanding
how
much
money
we
need
to
put
toward
crack
sealing.
How
much
we
need
to
put
toward
chip
sealing.
There's
other
techniques
that
we
don't
use.
That
we'd
like
to
do
that.
We
aren't
putting
money
in
the
budget
for
right
now,
but
it
would
come
out
of
those
same
funds
like
flush,
seal
or.
F
E
G
Let
me
let
me
jump
in
a
little
bit
more.
We
did
look
at
other
technologies,
as
the
mayor
mentioned,
Microsoft
Microsoft,
forcing
is
a
newer
technology
for
this
part
of
the
country.
Very
few
companies
are
set
up
to
do
it,
so
we
don't
have
a
large
pool
of
contractors
that
can
come
in
and
do
that,
so
what
they
want
to
do
see
then
as
large
projects
when
they
come
in,
and
we
didn't
have
a
large
enough
project
to
get
a
reasonable
unit
price.
G
So
we
didn't
pursue
that
when
we
took
bids
on
that
a
couple
years
ago,
just
came
back
from
the
public
works
seminar
in
Orlando
and
visited
with
those
folks.
They
had
a
booth
down
there
and,
and
we
flat
out
the
end
of
the
discussion,
was
if
you
can
create
a
big
enough
project,
we
can
help
you
but
we're
not
to
the
point
where
we've
identified
a
big
enough
project
to
do
that.
G
Yet
the
other
side
of
that
discussion
is
if
you
can
partner
up
with
other
cities
that
are
closer
to
you
now
right
now,
the
closest
they're
doing
this
work
to
us
in
the
state
of
South
Dakota
is
in
Sioux
Falls
Miha
County
they
own
with
Brandon
and
T,
and
some
of
those
if
we
could
get
Brookings,
Madison
and
us
to
all
bid
a
project
closer
together.
We
might
get
start
to
see
the
reasonable
bids
and
we
will
always
try
to
pursue
those
new
technologies.
G
When
we
can
but
bottom
line
is
we
still
need
to
be
able
to
afford
them.
So
that's
our
approach
to
that.
With
regard
to
millon
over
lace,
we've
been
playing
with
a
few
unique
ideas
that
we
haven't
attempted
in
watertown
before
we
used
to
do
just
a
standard,
2
inch
mill
on
everything
and
then
all
Rio
overlay
it
we're
starting
to
look
at.
Maybe
we
only
mill
an
inch
and
a
half
from
the
edges
and
leave
the
center's
alone
if
there's
not
too
much
crown
already
and
then
just
overlay
over
the
top
of
everything.
G
F
G
It's
not
all
about
saving
money.
Of
course
it's
becoming
efficient
with
with
money.
When,
when
we're
looking
at
overlays
on
residential
streets,
we
probably
don't
need
to
do
a
full
two-inch
overlay.
A
lot
of
those
residential
streets
could
probably
get
by
with
an
inch
and
a
half.
So
we
take
that
extra
half-inch
and
then
move
it
to
another
block.
The
only
accumulates
and
we
can
get
get
further,
so
we're
looking
at
different
techniques.
That
way
we
do
have
to
get
a
little
bit
more
aggressive
on
our
replacements.
G
The
pavement
management
study
showed
us
a
lot
of
need
for
what
they
called
a
thick
mill
and
overly
well
on
a
lot
of
our
older
streets.
The
street
was
originally
only
built
with
a
three-inch
asphalt
mat.
So
when
you're
milling
two
inches
off
of
a
three
inch
mat,
you
don't
have
anything
left
to
sustain
the
construction
equipment.
That's
going
to
roll
over
to
rebuild
it.
So
you
end
up
destroying
the
bottom
and
trying
to
replace
the
top
in
two
inches.
G
So
we
have
to
recognize
the
one
when
they're
talking
about
a
thick
mill
and
overlay,
that's
really
a
reconstruction
project
for
us
and
so
we're
identifying
that
with
it
with
that
pavement
management
study
and
trying
to
budget
accordingly,
the
other
component-
that's
not
in
the
pavement
management
system
that
we
need
to
incorporate
into
our
evaluation
we're
going
to
get.
There
is
a
better
program
of
communicating
with
our
utility
companies
Watertown
municipal
utilities.
G
If
they
need
to
do
a
water
main
down
a
street
that
we're
scheduled
for
a
mill
and
overlay
or
even
a
reconstruction,
we
should
coordinate
those
efforts
so
that
they're
not
tearing
up
a
fairly
new
street
when
we're
done
I
hate
the
mill
and
overlay,
or
do
a
substantial
improvement
on
the
street
in
2018
that
they're
gonna
tear
up
in
2000
2021.
You
know,
so
we
need
to
coordinate
those
efforts
better.
G
We
we
do
have
that
coordination
with
our
wastewater
department
and
we've
actually
started
to
implement
a
few
new
ideas
there
to
where
we're
not
just
carte
blanche,
patching
a
middle
of
a
road.
We
wanted
it
all
to
be
honest
kind
of
the
same
pavement
cycle,
so
we're
we're
working
those
details
out
what
what
you
do
see
in
the
current
CIP
is
they
had
a
five
years
recommendation
and
I
took
the
five
year
self
data
that
they
came
up
with
and
I
threw
those
numbers
in
those
projects
by
priority
prioritize
them.
G
G
Correct
at
this
point,
until
we
reach
your
five
I
would
hesitate
to
redo
it
till
I
I'm
back
to
where
I.
If
we
get
reach
your
five,
then
I
think
we
should
have
it
scheduled
to
be
redone
to
do
it
any
sooner
than
that,
because
here's
reality
I
think
based
on
budget
constraints
and
the
way
I
mean
the
economy's
not
bouncing
back
as
fast
as
we'd
like
unless
we
find
a
different
revenue
source.
Our
five-year
program
is
probably
going
to
take
seven
years
to
complete
something
like
that.
You
know
we're
gonna
slip
a
little
bit.
G
In
other
words,
we
aren't
gonna
be
able
to
be
as
aggressive
some
years
as
we
want
and
really
that's
we're
victims
of
the
climate
of
the
bidding.
If
asphalt
prices
go
up,
we're
gonna
get
less
construction
mileage
done.
So
we
have
to
be
because
just
so
that,
through
this
five-year
plan,
as
well
as
projects
don't
fit
in
the
budget,
they
get
bumped
out,
they'll
slide
down
a
year
or
so,
and
so
that's
where
I
think
one
that
was
some
slip
with.
We
didn't
slip
very
many
this
year
in
2018.
G
A
We
can
set
the
budget
for
what
we
want
to
do
and
that
study
will
tell
us
what
our
level
of
service
what
we
should
do
to
maintain
our
level
of
service
and
that's
what
we
got.
We
had
to
bump
projects
so
we're
not
maintaining
our
level
of
service
this
year,
because
it
would
have
cost
us
a
couple
extra
million
dollars
which
will
have
so
in
the
future.
A
We're
gonna
address
this
head-on,
as
you
know,
try
and
budget
for
what
we
need
to
keep
our
head
above
water
so
that
we
don't
end
up
in
the
hole
someday
with
a
bunch
of
streets
gone
back
to
gravel.
So
that's
coming.
This
is
a
work
in
progress
and
we've
got
prioritized
projects.
You
see
them
in
the
book
there
for
next
year.
If
we
can
see
an
increase
in
revenue
will
add
more
street
projects
and
if
we
add
another
revenue
source,
you
know
we
can
that's
up
to
us
how
we
want
to
manage
that.
G
And
there's
many
factors
that
come
into
play.
Hopefully
your
milling
and
overlaying
when
that
remaining
pavement
is
still
viable
and
and
supports
the
construction
equipment
and
that's
the
key
component.
If
you
get
too
old,
I'll
give
the
current
example
a
good
example
was
Derby
down
or
not
Derby
on
some
summer
wood
this
year
you
know
that
could
have
been
milled
and
overlaid,
but
we
looked
at
the
age
of
the
pavement
and
the
condition
and
said:
why
would
we
overlay
this?
G
It's
only
three
inches
thick
and
if
we
milled
off
even
an
inch
and
a
half,
what's
left
isn't
going
to
be
strong
enough
to
support
anything,
so
we
decided
that
we
would
just
take
out
the
entire
pavement
structure
and
rebuild
it
and
that's
what
we
did
and
they
that's
our
approach.
We're
gonna
look
at
these
from
all
kinds
of
factors:
age.
You
know
the
traffic,
that's
on
it,
the
condition
of
the
base
that
all
those
things
are
factored
into,
whether
we
do
a
traditional
mill
and
overlay
or,
if
we're
all
ready
to
a
reconstruct.
G
E
This
is
a
Shelly
question
now,
as
we
look
at
this,
we
addressed
this
last
time.
We
look
all
these
numbers
in
this.
This
doesn't
take
a
look
at
what
the
projected
incomes
are
at
those
years.
This
is
just
looking
at
a
need:
a
dollar
figure
and
we'll
deal
with
what
fits
in
the
budget
in
the
year
correct.
D
Correct
because
I
mean
this
only
takes
into
account
a
portion
of
what
the
second
penny
pays
for
and
that's
just
the
the
streets,
storm
sewer
like
the
recreation
programs.
But
it
doesn't
take
into
account
the
transfers,
the
debt
and
then
again
where
our
revenue
sources
are
and
where
they're
at
so
the.
E
Point
is
is
as
we're
going
through
this
we're
not
looking
to
say.
Okay,
if
we
add
fifty
thousand
here,
we
got
to
find
someplace
else
in
this
to
take
fifty
thousand,
not
we're
not
looking
at
balancing
anything
right
now,
we're
just
identifying
a
need
attaching
some
dollar
figure
to
that
right
and
then
yeah
when
each
year
comes,
then
that's
when
you
get
into
the
actual.
D
Budget,
II
and-
and
you
can
look
kind
of
historically
I-
don't
have
my
book
in
front
me,
but
historically,
you
know
45
to
50
percent
of
the
second.
Penny
has
been
used
for
street
and
storm
sewer
projects.
So
when
you
look
on
20
19
20
21
on
page
39,
you'll
see
two-point
almost
seven,
two
point:
seven
two
point:
seven,
those
are
pretty
realistic
when
you
get
into
the
four
million.
D
You
know
that,
historically
we
have
not
had
the
revenue
sources
for
that,
but
by
then
you
could
have
some
additional
revenue
sources.
We
could
have
additional
sales
tax
revenue
that
would
support
that.
But,
right
now,
if
I'm,
just
looking
at
that,
I
would
say
that
that's
not
a
sustainable
year
unless
something
changes
in
these
outlying
three
four
years
but
the
rest
of
it
is,
is
pretty
well
in
line
with
what
historically
has
been
able
to
be
done
unless
there's
some
drastic
shift
and
so
right
now
we're
not
really
right
now.
D
What
what
we're
saying
is
that
these
will
be
supported
with
second
penny
dollars
and
that's
kind
of
where
we're
stopping
at
that
that
we
would
need
this
many
dollars
in
order
to
do
these
projects,
but
there's
nothing
that
you
have
to
balance
out.
There's
nothing
you
have
to
cut.
You
just
need
to
be
conscientious,
that
on
some
years,
where
there's
a
lot
more
dollars
involved,
it's
it's
probably
going
to
be
a
year.
That's
not
realistic!
That
you're
gonna
have
to.
Unless,
like
I
said
you,
you
find
some
additional
revenue
sources.
The.
D
So
I
mean
there's,
there's
a
lot
that
can
happen
or
if
you
get
another
revenue
source
to
take
care
of
of
like
some
of
your
storm
sewer
costs
that
would
free
up
money
to
do
more
street
projects,
so
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
could
change
in
there,
but
I
think
you
need
to
be
conscientious
of.
What's
coming
down
the
line
and
do
you
you
know
how?
How
urgent
do
you
need
to
look
for
additional
revenue
sources
to
keep
up
with
the
streets
and
you're
always
adding
new
streets?
D
E
D
D
You're,
just
gonna
know
that
something
is
maybe
gonna
have
to
be
cut,
and
so
what
is
that
going
to
be?
As
that
to
be
an
annual
program?
Is
that
going
to
be
a
reconstruction
program?
Is
that
you
know
to
me?
You
still
have
to
you
have
to
try
to
to
know
that
what
you
budget
should
be
able
to
come
close
to
what
you're
gonna
bring
in
otherwise
there's
just
a
given
that
something
is
gonna
have
to
be
moved
and
and
if
that's
what
you
guys
want
to
do
that?
D
That's
that's
fine,
because
in
the
end
of
the
day
you
know
you
guys
are
gonna
have
to
balance
that
budget
each
year
and
you'll
have
to
plan
on
what
projects
see
and
what
projects
don't
and
if
the
annual
programs
are
are
a
higher
priority
to
you
then
allocate
the
money
to
them
and
and
shift
some
other
projects.
You
know
I
mean
that
that's
that's
kind
of
the
balancing
act
that
you
guys
have
to
play
because
you
have
an
annual
maintenance
cost
and
then
you
have
a
reconstruction
fixing.
D
You
know
repair
cost
and
you
just
there's
not
enough
money
right
now
to
do
all
of
it
at
the
level
that
it
needs
to
be
done.
So
you
just
you,
have
to
pick
where
your
priority
is
and
and
and
with
the
help
of
of
Shane
and
Rob
you
just
you're
gonna
have
to
put
your
money
where
you
think
is
gonna,
be
the
biggest
bang
for
your
buck
and
I.
H
I
G
Another
thing
to
note
to
your
clarification:
the
numbers
that
are
in
this
strictly
deal
with
the
street
surfacing
and
conditions
it
doesn't
identify.
One
of
these
streets
might
need
some
storm
sewer
work.
It
might
need
something
else.
So
it's
it's
not
an
overall
budget
that
encompasses
all
the
potentials.
It
is
strictly
a
placeholder
for
pavement
management
and
from
that
standpoint,
so
there
are
other
issues
that
we
need
to
as
we
get
closer
to
these
projects
will
identify
those
and
and
that
those
through
our
budgeting
process.
Accordingly,.
I
H
G
Probably
somewhat
both
but
I
would
say
it's
more
about
who
possesses
the
technology
and
you
know
they're
there.
If
there's
a
limited
number
of
companies
that
can
do
that,
then
they're
gonna
bid
hard
on
the
larger,
more
profitable
projects
and
the
small
project
think
we
might
toss
out
there.
Then
they
we
don't
get
a
realistic
price,
because
they're
gonna
put
us
on
the
back
burner
and
if
the
argument
offers
a
price,
it's
probably
going
to
be
something
that
we're
not
anticipating
or
wouldn't
pursue.
G
There's
only
one
in
Minnesota
that
does
this,
so
the
other
ones
are
coming
from
Florida
and
Arizona,
and
all
over
the
country
I
think
Kansas
City
might
have
been
the
next
closest
if
I
remember
right.
So
it's
these
folks
are
coming
off
a
long
ways
down
the
interstate
to
get
here
with
that
technology.
E
G
E
G
E
A
Say
whatever
you
set
aside
for
that
drainage
course
set
aside
for
every
drainage
course
in
every
quarter
section.
This
is
setting
a
precedent.
What
you
want
to
do
I
mean
this
is
a
a
wetland
and
we
talked
about
putting
it
in
a
pipe
that
wouldn't
you
couldn't
do
that
for
50
grand
and
the
wetland
mitigation
costs
were
gonna,
be
giant,
we
didn't
even
calculate
them,
and
this
would
this
money
would
be
adequate
for
making
it
more
park,
like
maybe
put
a
little
bridge,
get
some
access
over
to
the
bike
trail.
A
That's
what
I'm
envisioning,
something
that
the
neighborhood
can
look
at
and
not
choke.
That
would
actually
look
like
an
amenity
instead
of
an
accident
but
to
to
put
that
underground.
Due
to
the
mistake
that
was
made
of
that
the
pipe
put
in
too
low
upstream
it,
you
have
to
go
through
the
entire
quarter
section
to
make
it
right
again
and
I.
Just
I
personally
have
a
big
problem
with
that.
A
If
you
do
it
in
this
subdivision,
you
better
expect
to
do
it
in
every
subdivision
and
either
do
it
up
front,
make
the
developer
do
it
or
embrace
the
natural
environment,
which
was
the
intention
of
purchasing
that
waterway
and
that's
documented.
So
we
can
do
a
better
job
in
the
future
of
how
these
things
come
about
and
I
hope
we
will
I
certainly
intend
to
that.
I
think
we
can
go
a
long
way
to
make
it
better
than
it
is
well
we're
just
letting
it
sit
there
right
now
and
that's
not
acceptable
to
anyone.
So.
A
My
proposal
is
landscaping
and
you
know
shaping
it,
making
it
plant
something
that
isn't
ugly
and
and
make
it
look
like
you
wanted
it
to
be
there
instead
of
oops,
look
what's
there
and
then
make
a
path
through
there,
because
right
now
the
neighborhood
can't
get
over
to
the
bike
trail.
So
we
should.
We
need
to
have
connectivity
and
our
they.
A
A
Was
no
money
in
this
budget
for
this
year
to
address
that
was
there
we
have
money
in
2017,
so
you
know
there's
money
in
in
2018
and
and
I
think
for
the
most
part
we're
talking
about
earthwork
and
we
can
partner
with
game
fish
and
parks.
Like
was
done
over
by
behind
sixth
Street
circle
on
the
bike
path
there
they
were
very
happy
with
how
that
mess
turned
into
an
amenity,
and
it
didn't
cost
a
lot
of
money,
and
so
I
I
mean
it's
an
eyesore.
We
can.
A
E
I'm
gonna
again
Sarah
I'm,
not
suggesting
that
that
we
go
some
full
big
gamut,
that
the
matter
of
fact
I
think
that's,
contrary
to
what
the
intent
of
that
area
was
in
the
first
place,
I
just
wasn't
aware
of
what
the
overall
thought
was
in
that
area.
You
know
knowing
that
we
had
something
in
there,
I
didn't
know.
If
there
was,
if
there's
like
more
to
come
well,
then
we
should
have
more
to
come.
That's.
J
Have
a
question
about
the
the
skating
rinks?
Maybe
I
missed
that,
because
I
was
gone
part
of
the
time
on
these
I
see,
there's
a
on
the
bottom
of
page
36
that
there
is
a
reference
to
F,
F
and
E
for
money
to
be
put
in
to
buy
I.
Suppose
all
the
extras.
Does
that
mean
that
in
18
the
ice
rink
will
be
built
and
that
these
are
just
finishing
touches
to
the
ice
rink
it's
on
the
bottom
of
page
36,
39.
J
J
On
the
bottom
of
page
39,
that
would
indicate
to
me
that
we're
now
finishing
it
and
I
just
didn't
realize
now
I,
my
question
would
be,
and
it's
an
ignorance
because
I
probably
wasn't
here
is
what
is
the
plan
for
the
two
ice?
Rinks
or
you
know
my
plan
or
my
thought?
Is
they
do
the
west
side
of
town
ice
rink
or
what?
Where
are
we
with
that
and.
D
I
can
speak
to
the
money.
The
2018
is
where
it's
budgeted,
because
there
was
never
an
official
budget
put
in
for
the
ice
and
then
the
revenue
sources
around
that
so
the
department's,
when
they
put
in
their
long
term
CIP,
had
had
put
that
in
and
I
think
it's
it's
more
kind
of
like
what
you're
speaking
to
is.
Once
a
project
is
done
and
the
facility
is
open,
there's
always
things
that
will
come
up,
but
you
they
don't
always
fit
into
the
the
cost
of
construction
and
they're
just
kind
of
add-ons.
D
D
D
That's
the
end
of
the
five
years,
so
there
there
is
a
timeline
for
having
a
hundred
percent
of
the
bond
proceeds
used,
but
as
far
as
a
timeline
for
getting
the
project
completed,
we
just
we
needed
to
put
an
official
budget
in
with
some
revenue
sources,
and
that
was
done
in
2018,
and
this
will
move
accordingly,
depending
on
whatever
happens
as
far
as
the
timeline
but
I
I'm
I'm
not
involved
in
the
timeline
piece
of
it.
Just
the.
J
D
As
far
as
the
the
dollar
figure
there's
about
3.1
million
dollars
in
dollars
that
are
sitting
in
there
available
there's
a
couple
million
dollars
of
outstanding
private
funding
that
will
come
in
that
will
eventually
release
bond
dollars
to
be
used
for
other
projects.
But
there'll
be
three
years
before
we'll
recognize
that
you
know
so.
I
mean
as
far
as
dollars
as
that's
how
much
cash
we
have
in
there
and
there
are
some
receivables
that
will
be
coming
in
and
then
the
rest
will
have
to
come
from
either
existing
capital
dollars
or
private
funding
or.
E
E
D
D
The
original
FF&E
put
into
the
construction
is
really
to
get
the
facility
up
and
functional
right,
yep
yep
for
anything
else
and
I
think
they
kind
of
put
a
little
money
like
20,000
aside
at
the
ball
fields,
for
some
of
that,
where
they
identified
some
additional
fencing
or
our
benches
or
awnings
or
whatever.
That
would
come
up
that
just
really
wasn't
anticipated
during
the
construction
of
the
facility.
So
I
think
this
would
just
move
in
accordance
with
the
timeline
of
the
facility
being
constructed.
D
And
that's
a
good
point
for
Dan
anything.
That's
on
the
bottom.
You've
already
seen
it
in
these
other
budgets.
It's
just
something!
That's
easy
for
you
guys
to
identify
that
these
projects
in
these
different
departments
are
coming
from.
Second
penny
dollars,
so
you
can
just
kind
of
see
each
year
in
addition
to
the
roads
and
the
storm
sewer.
These
are
the
other
projects
that
have
been
identified.
D
The
use
second
penny
dollars
in
in
order
to
to
fund
them,
which,
if
you
look
at
the
beginning
in
the
narrative,
you
can
see
the
total
revenue
dollars
being
planned,
I
think
on
page
five
and
that's
where
that
corresponds.
That
includes
everything
from
all
those
other
departments.
So
anybody
else
how
many
other
questions
on
anything.
C
I've
gotten
a
fair
amount
of
complaints
over
the
last
year,
two
years
on
the
tenth
Avenue
product
I,
see
that's
not
budgeted
until
2020
and
2021
I
realize
you're,
going
based
upon
your
pavement
management
study,
but,
like
I,
have
gotten
a
fair
amount
of
complaints
about
about
tenth
Avenue
from
the
hospital
over
to
81.
So
just
a
comment:
I
mean
the
consideration
of
moving
that
up
anytime
sooner.
G
One
of
the
factors
that
time
put
it
in
this
time
slot
was
getting
the
hospital
construction
project
completed.
I,
don't
know,
I'm
quite
confident
that
they'll
be
continuing
to
build
well
into
nineteen
I,
don't
know
if
they,
if
they
plan
on
opening
their
facility
in
nineteen
or
or
20,
so
I
kind
of
wanted
to
wait
till
after
they
were
done.
Beating
the
road
up
before
we
start
putting
it
on
a
schedule
for
us
to
put
it
back
together,
and
so
that
was
part
of
our
consideration.
I,
don't.
C
F
F
G
We're
talking
about
I
have
budgeted
nine
hundred
thousand
in
twenty
and
then
nine
hundred
thousand
and
twenty
one.
So
that
would
get
that
whole
corridor
from
81
to
the
hospital
constructed.
C
G
We're
gonna
try
to
do
it
where
we
put
sidewalk
on
one
side,
probably
is
what
will
propose
and
not
destroy
all
of
the
trees.
However,
I
think
the
last
time
this
project
was
discussed,
some
of
the
trees
that
probably
already
perished
or
been
damaged
substantially
by
storms
and
been
removed.
But
we
rob
and
I
have
driven
this
several
times,
primarily
there's
no
parking
throughout
that
entire
run.
G
So
our
intention
is
to
design
and
build
a
street
that
there's
a
adequate
size,
but
probably
continue
to
not
have
parking
on
that
street,
because
it
is
an
emergency
route
to
the
hospital
and
there's
about
four
different
street
widths
between
eighty
one
in
the
hospital
and
what
we're
gonna
do
is
evaluate
which
one
we,
like
the
best.
Probably
do.
A
cost
estimate
see
how
that
fits
with
this
proposed
budget
and
then
go
from
there.
We'd.
A
D
D
On
the
budget
ordinance
tonight,
it
does
reflect
these
numbers
as
far
as
what
we're
holding
for
reserved
for
capital
outlay.
You'll
see
that
on
there.
So
if
you
would
make
any
changes
that
would
not
be
reflected
on
on
the
budget
ordinance,
but
we
could
make
those
changes
and
reflect
that
in
our
year-end
calculations,
but
I.
K
A
I
think
it's
gonna
be
a
sobering
wake-up
call.
Let's
look
at
how
our
our
liabilities
as
far
as
pavement
in
our
system
goes,
and
and
what's
it
going
to
take,
if
you
know
figure
out
what
we
need
to
stay
on
top
of
it,
I
really
want
you
to
see
that
up
front
and
so
you're
making
a
conscious
choice
about
how
we're
gonna
address
this,
because
it's
a
big
black
cloud
over
the
future
I
think.
I
A
G
I
just
want
to
point
out
one
thing:
we
talked
specifically
about
knowing
overlay,
but
when
we
need
to
like
we
did
this
year
with
the
development
out
by
the
lake,
that
will
have
to
do
complete
reconstructs
with
money
but
from
the
mill
and
overlay
budget.
But
what
my
intention
is
is
that
we'll
try
to
limit
that
to
projects
that
just
need
pavement,
surface
removal
and
replacement,
not
the
base
and
the
curb
and
gutter
and
all
that
stuff.
G
So
so,
you'll
see
a
few
projects
that
just
take
off
all
of
the
pavement
and
put
it
back
in
under
a
mill
and
overlay
project
will
have
a
different
process,
hopefully
for
the
ones
that
need
base
work
and
new,
curb
and
any
storm
sewer
stuff.
So
you'll
see
those
kind
of
intermingle,
but
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
Nolen
overlay
means
more
than
just
Mellon
overlay.
In
some
instances.
C
Actually,
if
we
got
a
few
minutes,
I
do
have
a
question.
I
I,
primed
judge
Foley
on
this
before
the
meeting,
but
I
want
to
so
I
want
to
have
him
prepared.
I'm,
referencing
tonight's
paper,
skatepark
and
I
was
definitely
a
supporter
of
that
going
back
the
last
couple
years,
but
I
couldn't
help
but
be
concerned
about
the
picture.
You
know
we
got
two
young
guys
here.
Absolutely
no
head
protection.
Don't
need
protection,
no
arm
protection,
nothing
whatsoever.
Using
that
thing,
I
remember
have
a
conversation
with
when
we
approved
a
bid
for
this
with
Justin.
C
Okay.
What
is
our
exposure
to
this?
You
know
I'm
not
going
to
speak
for
Justin
I
mean
we
were
led
to
believe
that
you
know
it's
relatively
limited,
but
I
I
did
ask
our
city
attorney.
You
know
what
do
we
do
to
limit
or
mitigate
our
exposure
because
I?
Obviously
we
do
have
some
liability
for
use
of
that
park.
If
somebody
cracks
a
skull
open,
it's
not
a
matter
of
when
it's
more
than
likely.
If
and
I
guess,
I'd
like
you're,
you
know
you're
a
pin.
You
know
finn's,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
well,.
L
L
Well,
that
would
need
to
be
determined,
and
that
would
get
us
to
the
issue
of
coverage,
or
you
know
the
assurance
alliances
program
that
they
have
with
doug
Kirkus,
who
assesses
our
liability,
assesses
our
risk
and
and
provides
good
suggestions
for
everything
that
we
do
in
the
city,
and
it
would
be
something
that
would
involve
insurance
coverage
with
the
assurance
alliance,
so
our
exposure
would
be
limited
by
our
insurance
coverage.
You
wanted
a
lawyer
answer.
You
got
one.
I
D
And,
and
just
just
since
Justin
isn't
here
we
had
this
question
and-
and
we
did
call
and
kind
of
like
pools
and
everything
parades
and
everything
else
there
is
that
element
and
the
city
has
a
due
diligence
to
you
know.
Part
of
negligence
is:
are
we
having
something
in
disrepair
that
would
cause
someone
to
have
an
accident
and
hurt
themselves
and
the
other
part
it
and
I
know
the
signage
is
a
big
thing:
public
assurance
Alliance?
D
If
you're
gonna
do
these
things,
they're
they're
really
put
the
signage
out
there
put
the
rules
out
there
put
the
you
know
that
you
skate
at
your
own
risk
that
you
know
what's
allowable
there,
what's
not
so
that
if
there
and
a
bike
and
bikes
aren't
allowed,
then
they're
basically
violating
the
rules,
and
it
helps
I
mean
anybody
can
sue.
Anybody
now
tell
me
if
I'm
wrong.
D
Anybody
can
sue
anybody
for
any
reason
at
any
time,
so
they
can
name
the
city
in
a
lawsuit,
no
matter
what
you
do,
but
for
the
city
to
kind
of
do
their
due
diligence
to
put
something
out
for
a
recreation
purpose
and
lay
out
the
rules
lay
out.
You
know
what's
allowable.
What's
not,
and
you
know
maybe
just
running
it
by
the
public
assurance
lines,
because
at
the
time
we
hadn't
even
bid
it
or
built
it.
D
We
were
just
asking
the
question
and
I
know:
Justin
came
back
and
said
signage,
big
big
issue
make
sure
that
there's
signage
out
there
make
sure
that
the
rules
are
there.
If
there's
hours,
you
want
to
be
pay
out
there.
If
there's
no
lights,
you
know
those
type
of
things
just
make
sure
that
that's
all
very
clear
to
everybody
and
then
it
it
helps
the
city
in
that
way
too.
D
But
once
it's
done,
we
can
sure
take
that
back
to
the
public
assurance
Alliance
or
to
Doug
and
say:
do
you
have
any
additional
suggestions
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
because
they're
our
liability
carrier,
if
we
are
named,
it's
really
up
to
them
to
determine
where
that
fault
is
and
to
what
level
they'll
they'll
defend
the
city
in
any
of
those
instances.
So.
G
The
conversation
and
Shelly's
right,
that's
exactly
about
how
that
conversation
went,
but
it's
very
similar
to
our
approach
to
the
swimming
in
City
Park
no
lifeguard
on
duty
is
the
warning
sign
and
the
expectation
that
nobody's
going
to
be
there
on
station
to
save
your
life.
That's
employed
by
this
city
is
what
that
no
lifeguard
on
duty
implies
and
means,
and
similar
type
of
approach
to
the
skatepark
is
as
long
as
the
skate
park
is
maintained
in
good
usable
condition.
G
We're
gonna
have
the
rules
up
there
in
and
skate
at
your
own
risk
type
of
scenario
and
I
agree
that
that
needs
to
be
vetted
past,
our
insurance
carrier,
just
so
that
they're
comfortable
with
whatever
weed
we
do,
but
it's
kind
of
a
similar
approach.
You
you
build
it
and
and
if
they
want
to
use
it,
it's
at
your
own
risk
and
and
go
from
there,
but.
E
I
I
G
H
Know
whether
we're
liable
or
we're
not
liable,
I
totally
agree
with
what
Shelley
said
and
I
would
Rove
buy
it
before
I
came
here
tonight
and
I
was
surprised
to
see
a
lot
of
kids
out
there
with
no
ailment,
and
you
know
just
for
the
safety
and
welfare
of
those
kids
I.
Think
it's
a
great
idea
to
have
that
signage
in
place.
H
Iii
hear
what
Mike's
saying
cuz
I,
don't
think
we
had
a
sign
at
softball
field
to
say
you
gotta,
wear
a
helmet
if
your
bat
and
I
don't
know
that
we
do
that,
but
I
think
just
for
the
health
and
well-being
of
those
kids.
You
know
they're
skating
around
on
concrete
and
I
know
for
my
own
self,
when
I'm
out
there
skating
up
there.