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From YouTube: BOA & Plan Commission Meeting 08 23 2018
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Agenda for August 23, 2018
A
C
D
A
D
A
B
B
B
These
specific
rules
governing
individual
can
do
conditional
uses
is
something
that
this
board
must
consider
things
like:
ingress
and
egress
to
the
property
off
street
parking
and
loading
screening,
buffering
signage,
refuse,
exterior
lighting
required
yards
and
open
space
and
general
compatibility
with
the
neighborhood
per
chapter.
Twenty
one
sixty
three
off
street
parking
and
loading
requirements.
The
proposed
driveway
width
is
thirty,
eight
feet
times
two
because
there's
one
in
the
front
or
street
side
and
one
driveway
in
the
back
alley
off
street
parking
design
and
maintenance.
B
All
parking
areas
shall
be
surfaced
with
a
durable
all-weather,
surface
material
graded
to
dispose
of
surface
water
and
regularly
cleaned
and
maintained,
and
each
space
shall
be
designed
to
allow
the
exit
of
the
car
therein
without
first
moving
another
car
chapter.
Twenty
one.
Sixty
five
outside
storage
and
display
requirements
for
specific
uses
outside
storage
was
not
indicated
in
the
application.
However,
twenty
one
6501
would
apply
for
residential
type
uses
landscape
and
lighting
standards
chapter
twenty
one.
Seventy
three,
the
site
plan
does
not
show
for
frontage
street
trees,
but
the
applicant
will
comply.
B
The
minimum
tree
requirement
is
one
per
50
feet
of
frontage
and
then
there's
titles:
five,
eighteen,
twenty
one
and
twenty
four
sidewalk
trail
governor,
curb
and
gutter
and
subdivision
of
land.
The
proposed
parcel
is
a
merger
of
four
planted
Lots,
for
which
a
development
lot
agreement
is
required
in
lieu
of
replanting.
Sidewalk
is
required
for
redevelopment,
so
this
board
must
determine
if
satisfactory
provision
and
arrangement
has
been
made
concerning
2100
202
to
b7
A
through
H,
and
the
chapters
and
titles
described
if
application
is
endorsed.
This
board
may
consider
conditions
of
approval.
B
F
G
A
H
B
This
occupation
shall
be
carried
on
or
conducted
only
by
members
of
a
family
residing
in
the
dwelling.
The
applicant
submitted
the
attached
written
request,
site
plan
and
floor
plan
which
reflect
compliance
or
non-compliance
with
the
following
terms
of
the
ordinance.
Again,
we
have
21
or
202
b7
A
through
H,
which
are
specific
rules
governing
individual
conditional
uses,
and
this
includes
ingress
and
egress.
Excuse
me,
ingress
and
egress
off
street
parking
and
loading
screening,
buffering
signage,
refuse,
exterior
lighting
required
yards
and
open
space
and
general
compatibility
with
the
neighborhood.
B
Twenty
one
chapter,
twenty
one:
seventy
home
occupations
and
standards
solace-
proposes
to
utilize
five
hundred
and
eighty
seven
point
five
square
feet
or
twenty
percent
of
the
single-family
dwelling
for
her
micro,
blit
micro,
blading
business.
She
has
acknowledged
by
signature
her
assurance
to
comply
with
chapter
twenty
one.
Seventy
she
will
have
a
small
less
than
or
equal
to
four
hundred
square
inch
mounted
sign
to
the
side
of
the
house.
B
According
to
2163
off
street
parking
and
loading
requirements,
a
single-family
home
is
required
to
have
a
minimum
of
two
off
street
parking
spaces
for
the
principal
use.
There
is
inside
garage
space
for
two
legal
off
street
parking
spaces
and
to
be
counted
illegal
off
street
parking
space
must
meet
minimum
size
and
location
standards
and
allow
for
the
exit
of
a
vehicle
without
moving
another
vehicle.
B
B
B
Chapter
20,
165
outside
storage
and
display
requirements
per
21-7
double-o.
This
is
a
new
chapter
on
outside
storage
and
display
no
in-home
occupations.
No
outdoor
storage
of
equipment
or
materials
used
in
the
home
occupation
shall
be
permitted.
No
public
display
of
goods
she'll
be
allowed
on
the
premises
except
inside
the
principal
building
and
according
to
20
173,
landscape
and
lighting
standards.
The
property
is
compliant
with
things
like
Boulevard
and
infrastructure.
One
Tree
exists.
I
I
I
I
I
I
Think
that
the
regular
biohazard
bags
that
just
goes
straight
to
regular
garbage
but
in
the
bag,
so
that
the
garbage
people
know
that
it's
a
biohazard
I
talked
to
somebody
who
does
micro
bleeding
in
Minnesota
and
that's
what
she
said
that
they
do
and
they
have
very
strict
regulations
in
Minnesota.
So
the.
H
I
D
D
Staffs
staff
understanding
as
a
planning
Commissioner
if
a
person
doesn't
want
to
lend
their
name
to
a
concern.
It's
not
important
to
me
I'm,
just
stating
that
from
my
own
personal
for
the
board
to
understand
that
people
have
a
question,
comment
or
concern,
and
they
want
to
remain
anonymous.
In
my
opinion,
sitting
as
a
planning
Commissioner
or
a
board
of
adjustment
person
that
doesn't
apply
into
my
decision-making
process,
just
wanna
make
sure
everybody's
clear
on
that.
A
D
A
Take
a
vote
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
opposed
motion
passes
go
on
to
open
public
comment
period.
If
there's
anybody
that
wants
to
speak
to
the
the
board
on
a
matter
that
wasn't
discussed
in
in
the
open
here,
seeing
none
I'll
go
on
to
old
business,
any
old
business,
Jill,
no
old
business
I'll.
Take
a
motion
to
adjourn.
H
A
J
A
K
A
A
L
K
L
A
K
A
A
K
This
is
a
annexation
and
zoning
request
from
joy,
Nelson
and
Peggy
Hagen,
and
this
is
approximately
ten
point:
five
acres,
that
is
within
their
preliminary
plan
of
Eastwood's
addition
that
they
wish
to
annex
at
end
zone
as
our
one
single-family,
residential
and
you'll
notice
too.
As
a
condition
of
this
annexation,
we
require
a
plat
which
then
the
preliminary
plan,
which
is
recently
expired,
will
be
brought
to
the
Planning
Commission
to
be
updated
and
REE
approved
before
a
plat
comes
forth.
K
A
K
D
M
K
And
then
that
was
approved
by
the
park
board
in
2015
as
well,
where
this
the
portion
of
the
land
dedication
was
to
come.
This
is
phase
two
of
that
preliminary
plan,
so
that
was
approved
to
come
during
this
time
in
that
location.
But
just
because
we'll
be
going
through,
the
preliminary
plan
update,
we
will
bring
it
to
the
park
board
on
August
28th
I
believe
is.
L
A
K
J
So
what
we
have
today
is
we're
meeting
we're
meeting
here
to
discuss
the
comprehensive
Land
Use
Plan
Update
as
you're
well
aware
of
that's
been
out.
The
Planning
Commission,
obviously
isn't,
is
task
to
review
and
ultimately
approve
Land
Use
Plan,
which
is
the
basis
for
development
in
the
city,
and
so,
while
I
hunt
for
my
file.
My
apologies.
J
As
you're
all
aware,
on
the
Planning
Board
and
for
those
involved
at
this
point,
what
we've
done
is
is
we've
sent
out
what
amounts
to
a
link,
because
the
file
itself
is
a
very
large
file.
It
involves
many
many
Maps,
many
many
pages,
and
so
we've
sent
out
a
link
so
that
the
Planning
Board
is
able
to
review
it
here,
first
and
foremost,
so
think
a
chance
to
lay
eyes
on
the
document.
That
is
there,
policies
set
to
paper
here,
yep
I
got
it
there.
We
go.
J
J
C
J
All
right
so
as
I
as
I
was
saying
in
the
back
of
the
room
here,
this
is
gonna,
be
a
lot
like
a
director's
cut
of
a
DVD
you're.
Not
only
gonna
get
the
movie
you're.
Also
gonna
get
my
editorial
comments
and
witty
banter.
So
we'll
start
we'll
start
now
land-use
plan.
Today,
what
we're
going
to
talk
about
and
I
should
introduce
myself.
My
name
is
Luke
Malloy.
First
District
Association
of
local
governments,
I'm
the
planner,
their
senior
planner
there
and
have
been
working
on
this
project
for
several
years
now
today.
J
J
The
first
question
is,
as
far
as
what
is
the
land-use
plan.
I
know:
I've
done
some
training
with
this
board.
This
boards
been
involved
in
other
places,
whether
there's
someone
watching
staying
up
late,
the
community
watching
this
video
good
for
you,
you're
gonna,
learn
what
a
land-use
plan
is
for,
and
that
is.
It
establishes
a
vision
for
the
future
of
the
town.
From
a
conceptual
standpoint,
the
idea
is
that
we're
laying
out
the
idea
of
here's,
what
we
want,
the
town
to
look
like
and
here's.
Why?
Within
this,
where
is
development
going
to
occur?
J
What
type
of
development
is
going
to
occur
and
we
use
the
basis
of
what
the
stuff
we're
going
to
talk
about
today?
The
introductory
information,
the
demographics?
What
we
expect
that's
going
to
help
us
to
guide
what
sort
of
development
we
expect
to
have
in
the
future
and
where
it's
at
relies
largely
on
land
and
how
we're
already
developed
it.
Also,
though,
declares
the
intent
in
word
of
what
our
policies
are.
You
have
many
many
decisions
you
make
as
a
board,
especially
acting
as
a
Board
of
Adjustment
and
each
time
you
make
a
decision.
C
J
Use
Plan
or
that
ordnance
a
little
bit
farther
away
from
what
that
plan
used
to
say
so
really.
The
whole
idea
here
is
that
we're
trying
to
put
a
land-use
plan
together
that
outlines
the
policies
that
you've
really
established
through
many
of
the
other
decisions
and
brings
that
policy
back
up
to
what
you've
been
doing
and
then
also
lays
out
some
things
that
you
say.
You
know
what
we
really
wish.
J
We
could
have
been
doing
this,
but
we
never
could
because
we
were
stuck
here
so
and
lastly,
we
we
do
it
based
on
infrastructure,
I'm,
not
gonna,
read
state
law
to
you,
I'm,
just
gonna
tell
you
that
it's
important
in
state
law.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is,
you
can't
have
zoning
if
you
don't
have
a
comprehensive
land
use
plan.
Not
only
is
it
important
to
have
it
it's
important
that
your
zoning
ordinance
be
based
on
it.
J
If
you
have
a
land-use
plan
that
says
that
we
don't,
we
don't
think
it's
appropriate
to
have
more
than
32
dwelling
units.
In
one
structure,
you
can't
have
the
ability
to
have
a
64
unit
apartment
structure
in
your
zoning
ordinance.
It's
the
basis
of
your
of
your
zoning
ordinance.
Now.
That
said,
we
probably
wouldn't
be
that
specific
in
a
land-use
plan,
unless
it's
a
specific
location,
so
that
was
in
one
slide.
J
What
a
land-use
plan
is
review
the
process
here
of
what
we're
gonna
do
over
the
next
couple
of
meetings
here
it
may
bleed
into
an
extra
meeting
if
we
have
to,
but
as
far
as
what
I'm
gonna
do,
I'm
just
gonna
present
an
outline
of
the
land-use
plan.
I'm
really
not
gonna,
go
over
bait
them
page
by
page,
much
to
a
disappointment.
If
some
of
them
might
be
here,
I
will
answer
questions,
obviously,
as
they
come
up,
I'd
really
like
them,
as
they
come
up,
I'll
kind
of
ask
it
at
the
end
of
each
section.
J
The
sections
we're
talking
about.
Do
your
homework,
take
a
look
at
it
and
and
just
make
notes
of
things
that
you
question
things
you
like
things
you
don't
like
feel
strongly
about
as
it
says
here.
We
certainly
talk
about
those
things.
Ask
questions.
If
you
just
don't
get
what
the
heck
that's
about,
and
this
or
that
point
and
then,
if
there's
something
about
text
or
you
know,
I
really
like
semicolons.
J
If
you
really
don't
like
my
semicolons,
go
ahead
and
and
submit
those,
but
we
probably
don't
need
to
point
out
every
one
of
Luke's
flaws
on
the
writing.
So
if
you
would
just
go
ahead
and
submit
some
of
those
edits,
if
it's
just
more
text
or
hey,
could
you
make
this
print
bigger
or
something
like
that?
J
Just
if
you
could
mark
that
on
the
paper
go
ahead
and
I'll
happily
take
it,
because
I'll
go
page
by
page
with
every
copy
I
get
so
today
what
we're
going
to
talk
about
is
introductory
information,
and
it's
really
it's
really
kind
of
laying
the
groundwork
for
where
we
are
as
a
community
from
from
a
demographic
standpoint,
as
well
as
what
we
have
on
the
ground
for
infrastructure,
laying
that
work
and
then
also
stuck
in
the
middle.
There
is
kind
of
some
of
the
general
land
use
policies
and
I'll
get
into
why
that
layout
works.
J
That
way,
for
just
a
moment,
I
want
to
talk
about
the
history.
Here
we
have
a
2018
land
use
plan.
It's
got
a
long
history
here.
2013
was
when
the
city
contracted
to
go
ahead
and
do
this
over
2014.
For
about
a
year,
we
spent
reviewing
goals
and
policies,
as
well
as
for
the
that
and
the
following
year,
reviewed
future
land
use
in
the
rural
areas.
Then
we
took
an
introspective
look
inside
of
the
development.
J
It
really
really
focused
on
had
me,
as
well
as
our
office
staff
and
then
reviewing
old
decisions
as
well
as
going
back
with
and
coming
back
to
make
sure
we
were
on
track
with
the
Planning
Commission,
as
we
went
in
2015-2016
doing
a
review
of
developed
areas
already
of
the
community,
which
has
not
been
done
in
several
years
2017.
The
draft
was
completed
and
it's
kind
of
been
in
a
review
phase
as
well
as
working
on
some
other
things,
which
is
where
we're
at.
J
We
spend
a
lot
of
things
or
last
five
years
and
that's
also
kind
of
slowed
us
down
throughout
this
this
process.
We've
allowed
a
lot
of
input
out
of
uc3
city
engineers,
not
counting
interim
engineers.
Three
urban
planners,
not
counting
interim
urban
planners
myself,
included
a
couple
mayor's
housing
plan.
Uptown
development
plans
been
created.
J
We
created
a
joint
jurisdiction
ordinance
from
scratch,
which
just
frankly,
doesn't
happen
in
that
amount
of
time,
very
often,
especially
when
it's
been
voted
down
several
times
in
the
past,
as
this
was
overhauled
the
signed
code,
so
the
bottom
line
is
stuff's
been
going
on.
We
haven't
just
been
sitting
on
our
hands,
as
we've
been
going
through
this
and
so
now
we're.
Finally
there
with
a
draft
item
itself
with
a
document
itself.
I'll
just
go
through
here.
J
The
first
section
here,
I'm
gonna
switch
gears
in
a
very,
very
classic
Segway
there,
with
with
no
introduction
at
all
and
just
flat
go
into
the
document
here
with
the
plan.
The
first
section
of
it
is
obviously
the
introduction
and
the
introductory
portion-
I'm,
not
gonna.
Obviously
not
gonna
read
it.
It's
got.
J
A
description
of
the
importance
of
the
plan
did
a
little
more
history
just
on
the
community,
one
because
I
my
first
degree
was
in
teaching
and
I
feel
like
it's
important
to
have
a
little
bit
of
history
into
there
and
then
to
talked
about
the
historic,
the
history
of
planning
processes
in
the
city
of
Watertown.
As
far
as
they're
aware,
your
local
library
and
available
here
as
well
and
then
went
through
the
planning
process
with
this
plan,
that's
really
all
it
was
and
really
I'm.
Just
gonna
ask
you
pages
1
to
6.
J
If
any
of
you
had
dog-eared
anything
saw
anything
that
you
had
any
questions
or
any
edits
for
me
here,
let
me
know
aboard
if
not
I'll
move
on
next
section
is
a
demographic
trends
and
in
this
as
well,
I
expect
more
probably
editorial
comments,
or
you
know
edits
than
anything
in
this
section,
because
it
really
is
the
data
is
the
data.
Maybe
why
did
you
use
this
or
that
I
expect
to
see?
J
But
this
section
provides
a
snapshot
time
for
various
demographic
information,
housing,
population,
age,
gender,
education,
income,
housing
information
use,
the
decennial
census,
which
goes
all
the
way
back
to
2010,
which
was
the
basis
was
put
out
in
2000
the
end
of
2011.
Basically,
the
that
census
is
used
for
anything
in
which
accuracy
is
a
big
deal
because
the
rest
of
it.
J
When
you
talk
about
census
estimates,
it's
generally
done
with
a
flat
just
a
flat
multiplier,
which,
if
you
look
at
the
trend
line
that
they
use
it's
got
to
be
somewhere
around
a
half
a
percent
a
year
is
what
it
looks
like.
That's
why
you
see
every
decennial
census.
You
see
a
spike
in
the
in
the
city's
population.
J
Tell
you
what
all
this
means
and
all
of
these
charts
I'm
just
gonna,
show
you
that
you
can
see
the
population
has
increased.
The
main
point
that
I'll
point
out
here
is
with
with
this
with
this
chart
here
indicates
that
you
know
we
increase
population.
It
really
looks
like
it
flattened
out
there,
but
if
you
look
at
some
of
the
information
it
actually
that
leveling
out
or
flattening
out
happened
in
about
the
last
two
or
three
years
of
the
decade,
not
necessarily
there
and
that'll
come
important.
J
This
map
here
because
of
the
small
small
size
of
the
legend
there,
it's
a
lot
of
colors
on
there.
Basically,
this
is
a
population
density
map
of
your
city,
most
populated
areas.
You
can
see
where
those
are
kind
of
in
the
Roosevelt
School
District,
as
will
as
well
as
what
I
would
call.
Probably
what
is
that
the
old
grant
school
district,
probably
to
the
north
in
the
central
part,
the
green
areas
are
some
of
the
less
populated
areas.
The
one
thing
I
will
tell
you.
Is
you
look
at
your
plan?
J
Don't
get
too
hung
up
on
the
dense
the
year
number,
because
the
census
block
for
Lake
Camp
ESCA,
although
goes
all
the
way
over
to
the
airport,
so
just
because
it
shows
that
there's
not
a
lot
of
people
there.
That's
that's
not
right,
because
it
includes
the
lake
and
a
whole
heck
of
a
lot
of
area,
so
this
map
here
indicates
just
in
it
again
I
like
maps
as
you're.
J
Probably
well
aware,
if
you
looked
at
this
thing
for
me
to
pick
out,
a
few
cool
maps
is
pretty
difficult
because
I
like
maps
so
bottom
line
is
this
map
really
here
is
just
to
indicate
and
it's
in
your
plan,
but
it
just
shows
where
we've
lost
the
red
areas
indicate
where
we've
lost.
Probably
the
most
population
more
orange
is
a
little
bit
less.
These
are
not
numbers
of
people.
This
is
percent
population
loss
from
2000
census
to
2010
and
as
well
as
increase.
J
D
J
J
You
can
see
where
how
we
stack
up
and
how
things
have
changed
as
far
as
employment
goes
from
2000
to
2014,
one
of
the
things
that
I
felt
like
as
I
reread
this
that
we
didn't
really
underscore
enough
in
there
is
that
we
did
see
a
substantial
increase
in
professional,
scientific
and
management
jobs,
even
though
it's
shown
at
the
bottom
there
we
did
see
quite
a
few
new
jobs
in
that
sector,
which
really
wasn't
highlighted
a
lot
in
the
plan.
But
it's
some
worth
noting
this
particular
map
here
is
just
done
with.
J
J
Look
at
the
clusters
of
where
you're
building
houses
bottom
line
is
a
lot
of
them
are
on
that
that
Crescent
on
the
Northeast
I
was
really
impressed
to
see
the
numbers
around
the
lake
as
well,
where
we're
seeing
some
of
them
I
was
kind
of
surprised
at
that,
but
that's
a
lot
of
redevelopment
which
goes
later
on
you
look
in
the
middle
there
what's
kind
of
interesting
about
that
is.
If
you
watch
this
map
and
then
go
to
this
map,
this
map
indicates
the
number
of
units
for
each
structure
going
in
there.
J
So
what
you
see
is
in
the
middle
of
town,
we're
seeing
more
multi-unit
structures
going
up
redeveloping
and
to
multi
units,
which
makes
sense
so
just
kind
of
give
you
information
as
what's
there.
This
is
a
chart
that
shows
about
the
same
information,
so
some
questions
I've
received
so
far
on
this
section-
are
questions
about
how
we
show
or
just
kind
of
graphically
show
the
the
population
change
because
you'll
see
the
average
increase
is
this
percent?
It's
I
think
it
was
one
point,
seven
percent
dating
back
for
the
last
50
years.
J
What's
that
tell
us,
it
tells
us
that,
50
years
ago
our
population
was
lower
than
it
is
today,
and
then
we
divided
it
by
a
number.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
the
question
about:
are
there
better
ways
to
do
it?
Yes
and
no
I
mean
realistically
it's
it's
not
like
money
where
you
can,
where
more
money
automatically
makes
more
money.
That's
that's
not
necessarily
the
right
way
to
say
it
either
from
an
interest
standpoint.
It's
not
compounding
in
that
way.
J
It
kind
of
depends
on
if,
if
we
increase
population,
for
example,
if
if
I'm
in
Sun,
City
or
somewhere,
some
retirement
community
and
in
Florida,
just
because
I
brought
more
more
humans
into
the
area
doesn't
mean
they're
naturally
have
more
humans
coming
into
there.
So
the
point
is:
is
that
it's
it's
it's
a
case
of
just
showing
a
growth.
It's
kind
of
the
trend
line
is
what
it
is.
D
Luke
I
thought
that
the
interesting
thing
that
came
out
of
some
of
your
analysis
had
to
do
with
age
distribution,
some
of
the
socio-economic
statistics,
because
I
think
those
are
things
that
we
as
the
Planning
Commission,
are
going
to
be
dealing
with
from
an
age
distribution
standpoint
we
are
getting
older,
our
greater
higher
increases.
Population-Wise
are
the
people
like
me
getting
closer
to
65
and
then
also
I
thought
was
interesting.
D
Is
that
the
the
out
migration
patterns
that
we're
seeing
that
are
somewhat
buttressed
by
the
Lake
area,
tech,
but
we're
still
seeing
out
migration
and
how
that
may
be
also
Len
relates
to
the
educational
characteristics
within
the
community
based
upon
how
we
compare
amongst
the
the
state
and
the
nation
with
college
education.
While
we
are
growing,
we
still
are
lagging,
which
I
think
also
has
another
impact
on
our
median
family
income
and
the
basis
for
that.
So
and
how
and
what
does
that
mean
I
think
from
a
housing
perspective
at
talk?
D
We
need
to
be
looking
at.
How
do
we
plan
for
workforce
housing?
How
do
we
plan
for
assisted
living
facilities?
How
do
we
handle
what
mr.
Hoff
teachers
proposed
you
to
do
with?
You
know
housing
for
for
elderly
people
at
the
same
time,
what
are
we
doing
as
a
community
to
incentivize
development
to
attract
individuals
that
can
come
to
the
community,
so
I
thought
that
was
interesting
in.
D
J
D
J
J
We
see
that
a
lot
around
the
thing
that
was
different
than
we
see
in
other
places
is
that
we
did
see
more
in
the
age
that
has
more
kids,
which
was
indicated
by
the
number
of
kids
0
to
10,
see
with
an
increase
there,
and
we
saw
that
that
increase
in
the
ages
of
believe.
It
was
25
to
35
if
I
recall,
which
is
which
is
essentially
where
we
have
a
rate
of
natural
increase
as
well.
D
L
J
J
We
had
a
lot
of
children
that
were
we
had
a
what
I
would
call
a
gap
in
in
the
0
to
10
age
group,
but
we
had
a
substantial
amount
of
them
in
the
10
to
20,
which
is
one
of
the
things
within
the
text
that
I
mentioned
that
could
attribute
to
the
fact
that
we've
got
now
15
to
35.
We've
still
got
some
there,
but
that's
not
that
doesn't
always
play
out
the
I
guess.
My
point
is:
is
that
last
time
we
had
less
young
kids
this
time
we
have
more
young
kids
and.
D
A
K
J
J
A
C
A
That's
a
key
area:
I
think
we
need
to
really
look
at
as
a
community
is
those
kind
of
higher
tech
jobs.
You
know,
we've
got
a
lot
of
manufacturing
in
town.
We've
got
a
lot
of
agriculture,
a
lot
of
retail.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
high-tech
industry.
We
have
a
few,
but
that's
that's
something
that
you
know
we
can
court
as
well
and
I
think
you
know
Watertown
Development,
Company,
they're
doing
a
lot
of
good
things
in
that
regard.
A
D
Some
of
this,
but
I
think
Luca
alluded
to
previously
is
that
every
two
years
there's
what's
called
the
American
Community
Survey,
which
is
which
is
a
tool
of
the
Census
Department
which
basically,
they
survey
a
percentage
of
people
across
the
nation
and
within
the
state
and
within
the
county
and
within
the
city,
and
it's
far
less
scientifically
significant
comparable
to
the
census.
So
you
take
it
with
a
grain
of
salt,
some
of
the
some
of
the
information
within
there.
D
So,
but
what
we
see
there
and
that's
why
everyone
saw
you
go
to
google,
you
say:
population,
Watertown,
it'll
be
like
2016
or
2014,
you'll
see
those
look
who's
and
what
we
see
there
is
that
what
their
projections
are
are
probably
comparable.
What
we're
seeing
when
we
compare
it
to
new
home
starts
and
electrical
and
utility
hookups
and
those
types
of
things
it's
it's.
It's
close
the.
J
J
Those
estimates
kind
of
work
and
that's
why
we've
got
some
of
those
on
some
of
those
regarding
trends,
income
levels,
those
are
just
postulated
and
the
swag
on
those
are
usually
more
than
more
than
the
cohorts
that
you're
using
anyway,
and
so
generally,
you
go
back
to
where
we
were
and
we've.
You
know,
we've
got
to
deal
with
the
fact
that
there's
some
swag
into
there
that
there's
that
there's
going
to
be
some
some
some
inflationary
issues
with
that.
J
But
again
what
we
do
know
is
that
again
we're
establishing
trends
and
seeing
what
those
trends
are
is
ultimately
what
the
hope
is
out
of
that
and
that's
where
that
question
about
what
source
here
is
appropriate.
That
was,
that
was
the
question
that
I
know
some
others
had
too,
and
that's
where
some
of
it
that's.
Where
I
said.
If
it's
important
to
be
accurate,
we
need
to
go
back
to
2010.
If
it's
more
about
it's
more
about
estimating
and
seeing
where
it
trends
going.
J
That's
where
we
can
use
more
of
the
estimates
and
that's
that's
kind
of
the
point
there.
One
of
the
things
as
far
as
population
goes
is
I.
Looked
at
that
and
tried
to
look
at.
You
know.
Where
are
we
today
where?
Where
where
does
say?
Where
does
the
estimate
the
census
estimate
put
us
versus?
What
do
we
see
reality?
J
The
the
projection
is
important
primarily
to
let
us
know,
I
mean
what
do
we
need
for
houses?
How
much
space
do
we
need?
What
sort
of
if
we
continue
kneading
the
amount
of
commercial
space
we
have
we,
we
need
to
continue
going
that
way
per
person
we
keep
going
so
bottom
line
is
throughout
the
plan.
What
we
use
is
a
medium
growth
rate,
which
is
one
and
a
half
percent.
J
J
One
to
one
point:
two
is
what
I
would
I
peg
the
reason
that
I
think
it's
probably
safe
to
plan
the
one
point:
five
is
one
you
need
to
plan
for
future
growth
and
two
you
need
to
so
that
you've
got
to
have
more
room
for
future
growth
and
the
other
reason
is
goes
back
to
what
I
was
talking
about
the
last
census.
We
had
a
dip
and
we
regressed
below
the
below
our
mean.
Basically,
when
we
had
the
housing
housing
dip,
we
also
in
2000
2008-2009
think
back
to
what
was
going
on.
J
We
had
some
closures
and
businesses.
We
had
some
layoffs
that
sort
of
thing,
so
it
couldn't
have
really
happened
at
a
worse
time
for
our
population
in
that
decade.
So
the
expectation
is
we're,
probably
at
least
in
the
short-term,
going
to
be
correcting
and
I
think
we're
kind
of
seeing
that
over
the
last
few
years,.
J
D
D
Area
students
are
counted
if
they
are
here
at
the
time
of
the
census.
They
are
counted.
That's
why
Brookings,
the
city
of
Brookings
has
a
greater
population
than
the
city
of
Watertown
is
because
all
those
kids
that
are
going
to
school
at
the
time
of
the
census
are
counted
as
residents
of
the
city
of
Brokers
you'll.
J
A
J
Akin
to
having
water
lines
that
you,
your
maximum
maximum
amount
is,
is
8
million
gallons,
but
your
usual
is
3
million
gallons
away
you
don't
you
can't
plan
for
3.
You
got
a
plan
for
that
big
one,
so
good
questions
was
there
anything
the
last
two
of
them
that
you
substantive
or
anything
else.
You
want
to
talk
about
projections
or
or
the
demographic
information
anymore
there.
Otherwise,
if
you
got
ads
I,
don't
get
them
me
too.
Please.
J
With
that
moving
on
next
section
in
the
plan,
if
you
as
I'm
sure
you've
read
probably
every
page
and
thumb
through
it
and
highlighted
your
favorite
parts
right
now,
a
portion
that
sometimes
feels
out
of
place
is
the
part
about
the
general
community
goals
and
the
planning
policies.
It's
really
we
start
with
the
demographics.
Then
we
move
on
to
okay.
Well,
here's
what
we're
really
trying
to
get
to
here's
our
general
goals
throughout
this
and
so
pages
28
through
your
sorry
26
to
40
to
include
some
of
those
general
goals.
J
You
got
the
general
community
goals,
I'm,
not
reading
them
to
you.
If
you
see
or
saw
something
that
caught
your
eye
go
ahead,
and
let
me
know
residential
goal
and
I
I
included
that
into
here.
But
again
it's
a
very
general
residential
goal.
It
object.
It
lists
objectives
which
kind
of
drill
down
you
can
see.
The
goal
is
very
general.
J
You
know
encourage
planning
construction
of
wide
range
of
housing
unit
types
objectives,
narrow
it
down
a
little
bit
more
I
mentioned
that
strategies
and
other
details
are
listen
later
chapters,
because
we
go
on
into
that
to
go
to
specific
areas,
whether
it
be
a
growth
area
outside
of
the
city
or
whether
it
be
a
redevelopment
area.
So
it's
more
dependent
on
the
area
versus
the
specifics
or
that
specific
type
of
use
as
we
go
on
commercial
land
use,
commercial
use
is
the
same
way.
J
The
I
went
backwards.
Apparently
the
industrial
use
goal
goes
the
same
way:
public
utilities
goal
and
objectives
details
later
and
later
in
chapters,
while
it's
the
next
page
is
what
it
amounts
to
within
the
infrastructure
goals.
We've
got
a
water
systems
goal
sanitary
sewer
goal,
the
storm,
water,
electricity,
solid
waste;
they
go
through
with
the
goals
and
objectives
and
the
strategies
into
there
and
they
narrow
down
it.
The
goal
is
broad
works
down
to
strategies
and
all
the
way
down
into
there.
J
So
if
there's
anything
into
any
of
those,
I
guess
I'll
finish
off
of
this
this
page
here,
but
we
go
into
the
future.
Urban
eyes
drew
Alera
utility
goal
that
portion
talks
about
extending
services
outside
and
how
we
kind
of
want
to
grow
with
that.
So
that's
a
little
bit
different.
It's
kind
of
it
was
in
no-man's
land
where
it
was
at
and
then
with
the
the
transportation
goal.
Objectives
and
strategies
are
a
bit
different,
they're
the
sort
of
things
that
are
a
little
bit
more
specific.
J
N
K
N
Should
put
that
on
there,
so
the
public
can
read
through
it
and
and
see
that
stuff
and
I've
noticed
here
and
there
on
some
of
the
figures,
we're
using
the
terms
master
street
plan
and
major
street
plan
kind
of
interchangeably
and
I
know:
South
Dakota
codified
law
refers
to
the
majors.
We
have
to
have
a
major
street
plan
and
I'm
just
wondering.
If
are
we
going
to
a
different
term
or
no.
J
D
I
know
Luke
that
you
had
said
that
you
know
in
2014
many
of
these
goals
and
objective
statements
were
vetted
through
the
Planning
Commission
at
that
point
in
time
and
and
I've
read
through
them
and
I
think
most
Marja
main
to
what
we're
doing
today.
Just
a
couple
quick
things
on
page
28,
it
talks
about
partnering
with
Coddington
County,
to
develop
a
joint
jurisdiction.
Well,
we've
developed
that
joint
year,
16,
as
you
said,
and
we
probably
just
maybe
need
to
put
some
sort
of
a
goal
to
further
continue
that
relationship
or
you
know.
D
K
N
N
N
D
C
D
N
The
last
transportation
study
is
2005,
but
I.
We
do
have
the
functional
classification
that
we
should
be
consistent
or
at
least
say
why
we're
not
and
what
the
difference
is
in
those
two
documents,
because
the
state
has
adopted
one
for
our
area,
which
includes
our
city
limits
and
in
2015.
The
city
should
be
adopting
that
and
it
should
be
consistent
with
our
major
street
plan.
I
think
the.
D
N
D
D
K
D
C
C
J
So
that's
that's
really
that
portion
and
then
there's
a
deeper
dive
down
as
you
get
into
the
geographic
areas,
so
standpoint
of
policies,
that's
what
that's
what
that
portion
is
about,
and
we
talked
about
a
few
things:
are
there
any?
Are
there
any
other
portions
into
there
that
you
wanted
to
dive
into
there.
K
Jump
back
to
page
34
under
Neath:
that's
where
you
want.
These
sections
talked
about
right
now:
right,
Luke,
yes,
so
the
stormwater
management
and
flood
control
goal
a
strategy
is
regarding
the
future
development
of
areas
outside
the
current
city
limits.
It
is
recommended
that,
prior
to
annexation
and
development
of
property,
a
master
stormwater
drainage
plan
impact
study
be
completed,
and
is
that
something
that
we
want
to
explore
by
when
we're
looking
into
updating
our
subdivision
regulations
on
making
that
a
requirement
B
prior
to
annexation
means
that
that
would
be
a
strategy
for
the
goal.
D
K
D
O
O
Putting
some
thought
into
that,
because,
typically,
the
impacts
are
obviously
going
to
happen
when
the
development
comes
and
when
those
development
plans
come
in.
That's
when
the
regulation
is
really
you
know,
the
rubber
hits
the
road
and
they
they're
required
to
design
a
certain
level
of
detainment
of
flows,
increased
flows
from
the
development
to
help
decrease
impacts
from
downstream
areas
and
but
I'd
like
the
idea
of
having
some
reminder
language
in
there
of
the
importance
of
those
considerations.
N
K
J
J
That's
part
of
what
I
was
going
to
spend
time
talking
in
a
couple
minutes
here,
but
the
last
plan
for
North
bypass
was
was
a
real
was
assuming
that
it
may
be
unlikely
that
a
bridge
would
be
constructed
over
the
river
and
the
railroad
and
to
possibly
think
about
existing
roads
to
work
its
way
around
back
over
to
the
north
and
then
back
across
existing
railroad
crossings.
That
is
what
is
in
the
planet
plan.
J
At
this
point,
however,
the
plan
was
also
written
with
language
in
there
that
the
city
will
not
quit
exploring
the
idea
of
crossing
the
river
and
the
and
the
railroad
in
order
to
have
the
most
direct
route
as
opposed
to
jogging
a
full
mile
north
and
around
it.
Now,
your
question
wasn't
that
your
question
is:
is
the
north
bypass
still
on
the
radar?
D
I
believe
that
to
be
true
yeah,
the
other
thing
too,
is
that
in
the
interim
there
was
a
study
for
the
wartime.
Development
Corporation
has
identified
parcels
of
ground
north
of
26th
in
this
area
that
may
lend
themselves
to
future
long-range
industrial
development,
and
therefore
we
know
that
26,
it's
still
going
to
be
whether
it's
a
full
bypass
back
to
highway
20.
It's
going
to
be
a
major
arterial
route
that
needs
to
be
preserved
for
potential
long-term,
and
you
know
if
I'm,
citing
a
new
industrial
park
to
the
north
and.
J
Own
reality,
and
that's
a
good
point-
is
that
in
our
reality,
whether
it's
still
the
north
bypass
or
not
long
range
development
that
does
carry
a
strong
ability
to
be
able
to
get
off
of
and
straight
to
the
interstate
as
well
as
rail
access
chances
are.
There's
the
ability
to
have
large
vehicles
or
heavy
traffic
on
that
street,
regardless
of
whether
or
not
the
road
goes
all
the
way
through
right
now,.
E
E
J
Yes,
at
the
time
of
the
discussion
I'd
answer
years,
taking
taking
into
account
an
idea
of
some
industrial
development
up
there,
even
even
quite
a
bit,
it
was
able,
it
was
figured
that
it
was
able
to
handle
it
even
going
through.
Knowing
that
you,
you
go
shrink
down
as
you
get
through
town,
it
was
able
to
handle
it.
That
said,
that
was
that
was
based
on
the
snapshot
in
time.
So
I,
it's
a
good
point.
We.
D
At
some
point
in
time,
if
we
get
up
north
of
Fort
up
north
of
26
as
we
as
you
know,
when
we
get
beyond
there,
there
will
be
a
point
in
time
that
you
know
when
the
city
is
maybe
pushed
in
75
or
80,000
people
and
we're
growing
north,
because
that's
where
we're
going
there
probably
will
have
to
be
a
need
for
a
revised
sanitary
sewer
system.
And
today,
what's
the
the
the
the
ability
or
you
know,
that's
really
again,
it's
that's
really
out
there.
D
That's
a
long
ways
from
now,
but
I
think
you
know
my
25
years
and
being
associated
with
the
city
and
city
development.
You
know
we
know
that
once
we
go
a
little
bit
further
east
of
19th
Street
and
14th
Avenue
that
development
as
she
starts
to
dip
back
down
towards
Willow
Creek
we're
limited
the
further
north
we
go.
There
is
a
there's,
a
Ridgeline
that
makes
it
limited
for
development,
but
again
I
think
to
accommodate
our
one-and-a-half
percent
growth
patterns.
We
we
aren't
there
for
many
many
years
and.
J
All
right,
that's
all
good
discussion
and
obviously
we're
not
just
because
we
move
past
it
doesn't
mean
we're
past.
It
forever
leave
my
information
go
ahead
and
get
to
me
and
we
can
always
if
we
need
to
bring
it
up.
We
certainly
can
we're
not
there's
really
the
time
to
look
at
it.
So
I
within
here
we've
got
the
development
elements.
The
development
elements
are
really
the
existing
infrastructure
that
we
have
from
a
standpoint
development
just
as
much
as
what
we're
able
to
provide
is
just
as
much
as
as
a
physical
geography
of
the
land.
J
The
cultural
geography
is
just
as
much
of
physical.
In
this
case,
if
we
can't
get
enough
water
to
serve
an
area,
then
we
can't
develop
there
unless
we
throw
more
money
at
it
and
we
got
to
figure
out
who's
gonna
do
that,
so
we
need
to
take
a
snapshot
in
time
of
what
we
are
for
water,
sanitary
sewer,
electricity,
natural
gas,
stormwater
and
that's
that's.
What's
in
each
section,
is
a
current
system
description
plan,
future
improvements
and
development
requirements.
J
I
will
note,
though,
if
you
went
through
it
I
hope
you
didn't
lose
too
much
sleep
over
the
water
section
was
done
at
the.
The
updates
section
did
not
make
it
into
that
portion.
So
I
want
to
apologize
for
anyone
that
looked
at
that
cross-eyed,
but
that
portion
will
be
updated,
I'll
make
sure
and
get
that
back
out
to
you
guys
with
with
the
updated
section
into
there.
That
was
the
old
portion.
The
old
language
is
what
was
in
there
before,
but
as
I
said,
we've
got
in
there.
Development
requirements
would
wind
up
being.
D
J
Is
correct
that
was
that
was
the
next
section.
I
was
going
to
talk
about
there's
a
lot
of
language
and
they're,
obviously
about
transportation,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
this
board
I
think
weighs
in
pays
a
lot
of
attention
to
that,
as
well
as
others,
but
I
think
we
trust
our
staff
to
review
a
lot
of
interest
from
a
standpoint
of
this.
We
look
at
it.
Yes,
staff
and
I.
Think
folks,
here
probably
were
involved
in
that
as
well.
J
Did
review
spend
a
lot
of
time
thinking
about
whether
or
not
they
wanted
to
show
other
options
into
there
and
ultimately,
what
was
decided
out
of
that
was
that
and
I
could
be
wrong,
but
I
might
be
paraphrasing
a
conversation
from
a
couple
of
years
ago,
but
basically,
I
was
decided
is
with
those
design
standards
which
is
very
nice
to
show
Complete
Streets.
Finally,
we
actually
have
some
examples.
N
In
the
comp
plan
is
what
we've
had
historically
thirty
eight
foot
wide
streets
for
a
local
Street,
which
is
feels
like
a
runway.
If
you've
lived,
have
you
ever
lived
anywhere
else?
It's
excessive
asphalt
and
we
can
probably
narrow
that
down
and
we
haven't
vetted
that
we've
discussed
amongst
staff.
But
what
you're
proposing
is
what
was
always
there
and
it's
never
had
a
public
discussion
and
that
I
mean
we
can
put
that
at
the
forefront.
We're
going
to
be
rolling
very
soon
here
with
the
development
committee
and
that's
one
of
the
things
well.
C
D
Thing
that
came
up
and
every
one
of
those
is
roadway
with
rice
community
and
we
we'd
get
so
far,
but
then
we
get
brush
back
from
various
departments
in
the
city
that
wanted
the
wide
streets
for
garbage
collection,
fire
action.
What
have
you
and
IIIi
agree
I?
Think
if
we
want
to
show
a
couple
other
options
where
we're
limiting
parking
and
we
wanted
to
go
with
some
narrow
streets
or
one-way
traffic
or
what-have-you
for
local
residential
design.
We.
N
Have
been
building
roads,
local
streets,
much
narrower
than
38
feet,
and
it's
inconsistent
with
our
current
comp
plan
and
it's
something
that
we've
debated,
but
the
new
developments
like
in
Prairie
Hills
and
in
even
up
in
east
woods
and
Prairie
View.
Those
streets
are
narrower
than
this
standard
and
there
is
general
acceptance
that
we
probably
could
do
something
well,
but
it
hasn't
received.
If.
K
N
N
N
K
N
J
You
see
this
is
very
similar
to
you
see
this
all
over
the
country
where
folks
are
realizing
that
we've
always
had
this.
This
is
the
prime
example
of
saying.
Oh,
our
street
widths
are
100
feet.
Let's
move
on
now.
Our
right
away
is
100
feet.
Well,
think
about
it.
This
way,
highway
212
is
an
arterial,
and
you
look
in
here
as
far
as
what
we've
got
and
I'll
pick
on
that,
because
we
don't
have
a
lot,
we
can.
J
We
don't
have
a
ton
of
things
we
can
do
about
that,
but
the
idea
is
and
I
use.
This
example
guy
from
Wyoming
had
explained
this
in
a
presentation
it
pointed
out,
he
said,
think
about
your
arterial.
Everyone
has
one
think
about
the
different
types
of
roadway.
You
have
there
how
wide
it
is.
You
have
a
split
four-lane.
You
have
five
lanes.
You
have
five
lanes
with
with
you
have
five
lanes
with
the
curbside
sidewalk.
J
You
have
five
lines
with
a
sidewalk,
that's
got
a
Boulevard,
you
have
five
lines
with
no
sidewalk,
you
have
four
lanes,
and
so
on.
That's
the
point,
and
what
you're
getting
at
as
well
is
that
we
accomplish
different
things.
There
are
better
ways
to
do
what
we've
been
doing,
or
at
least
to
show
it
right.
N
N
And
so
I
think
we'd
be
better
off.
The
vast
majority
of
roads
that
are
built
in
our
community
are
the
local
roads,
not
the
collectors
and
the
arterioles
I
think
we
need
to
focus
on
what
is
the
minimum
standard
and
then
stick
to
it.
Instead
of
having
a
minimum
standard,
that's
38
feet
and
nobody
builds
it,
and
every
single
one
gets
a
variance,
and
you
know
what
we're
gonna
talk
about
it,
we're
gonna,
meet
it
head-on
and
make
a
decision
as
a
community
and
and
then
we'll
just
move
forward
with
it.
So.
J
H
D
D
O
J
O
One
of
the
comments
I'd
make
to
go
a
step
further.
If
this
plan
generally
references,
what's
some
common
or
recommended
typical
sections
are
for
these
different
classifications,
we
can
always
drill
down
later
with
our
expected
and
upcoming
design
standards.
Where
we
can,
you
know
we'll
fall
within
what
what
the
the
comp
plan
recommendations
are,
but
get
a
little
more
specific
along
lines
of
what
the
mayor
is
talking
about.
You
know
we
can
tweak
our
minimum
widths
for
residential
roads
in
those
design
standards
and
what
I've
seen
done
too
is
the
design.
O
Standards
may
have
a
range
for
a
local
street
and
it
might
be
thirty
four
to
forty
feet,
for
example,
or
34
to
38
feet.
You
know
you
picked
the
numbers
but
and
then
so
on
and
so
forth
for
each
one
of
those
classifications
and
then
those
design
standards
you've
got
some
leeway
for
the
developer,
to
work
with
and
for
the
city
to
work
with
when
implementing
and
the
review
and
permitting
of
their
development.
Based
on
what
they're
bringing
forth
you
know,
is
it
high
density,
residential
you're
going
to
need
a
lot
more
on
street
parking?
O
So
those
are
those
are
some
things
there
I
think
you
can
drill
down
a
little
deeper
through
those
design,
standard
processes
that
I
know
I've
been
in
discussions
with
with
mayor
already
on
getting
those
updated
and
implemented,
and
what
it
would
expect
typical
street
sections
for
these
classifications
to
be
part
of
that
document
as
well.
So
the.
D
D
A
Just
just
real
quick
bring
this
up
and
just
for
the
sake
of
conversation,
but
as
far
as
roads
go
and
the
sea
of
asphalt.
You
know
comment
one
of
the
aesthetic
things
that
I've
liked
in
some
of
the
other
communities
is
where
they've
put
in
the
medians
with
the
grass
and
the
trees
I'm,
not
sure
if
that
has
a
place
anywhere
in
town,
if
there
was
a
specific
use
application,
but
I
think
it
does
really
improve
the
aesthetics
of
the
community.
So
it's
just
a
thought.
We.
J
J
Don't
have
a
laser
pointer
here,
but
to
get
traffic
from
17th
and
try
to
avoid
the
the
intersection
we
have
at
17th
and
and
212,
and
try
to
figure
out
a
way
to
get
traffic
over
to
19th
to
that
intersection
where
it's
already
lighted.
There
have
also
been
conversations
in
the
past
about
moving
you're
having
the
ability
to
whether
it's
to
straighten
out
or
have
a
four-way
intersection
at
at
14th
instead
of
13th,
where
that
stop
light
is
possibly
to
move
that
over
as
well
as
to
have
a
four
and
a
third
one.
J
That's
within
there,
that's
relatively
new
in
those
areas
would
be
to
have
a
a
four-way
intersection
where
11th
meets
highway
212.
That
would
be
at
Roby
Creek
or
work
that
road
all
the
way
down
to
Jensen
Avenue.
So
a
couple
of
things
that
are
least
into
there's
options
to
explore
as
well
as
just
the
other
thing.
J
That's
that's
a
little
bit
different
that
hasn't
that
wasn't
in
there
was
new
from
the
last
plan
was
just
to
review
whether
or
not
we
need
all
of
the
entrances
onto
highway
212,
particularly
because
of
the
fact
and
the
the
text
describes
it.
Our
town
sits
at
this
angle.
The
highway
sits
at
this
angle,
so
every
Street
not
just
streets,
hit
it,
but
streets
and
avenues
hit
highway
212.
So
the
idea
we
need
to
review
whether
or
not
we
do
need
45
feet
of
Street
going
this
direction
meeting
highway,
212
the.
N
D
J
Are
getting
toward
the
end
of
some
of
the
information
I
did
promised
close
to
an
hour
I'm
not
going
to
shut
anybody
up
here.
I
do
want
to
point
out
something
that
goes
along
with
what
Todd
had
mentioned
and
and
that's
the
utility
of
this
document.
I
know
the
mayor's
talked
about
this
many
times.
I
have
said
this
many
times
and
even
though
300
pages
may
may
speak
the
opposite
direction
of
that
really
do
not
want
this
to
be
a
document
that
just
sits
up
and
gathers
dust.
J
The
idea
here
is
that
if
you
get
a
development,
for
example,
you've
got
a
development
proposal
in
a
new
part
of
town
there
at
an
area
that's
freshly
annexed.
Once
you
take
a
look
at
the
master
Street
plan
and
see,
are
we
supposed
to
have
a
collector
here?
Well,
they're,
not
showing
it
well.
Where
is
it
gonna
be?
Then
it
doesn't
mean
that
it
has
to
be
in
that
same
spot,
but
we
know
in
this
area.
We
need
to
have
one
so
clearly,
if
you're
not
putting
it
here,
you
must
have
another
place
for
it.
J
That's
that's
really.
What
that's
about
is
to
know
that
and
that's
where,
where
you
see
some
of
the
crooks
and
Jags
that
aren't
perfect
squares,
those
are
areas
that
we
already
know,
there's
going
to
be
a
problem
to
get
to
there.
For
example,
you
can
see
a
long
Willow
Creek
where
that
kind
of
curves
around
we
did
their
best
to
try
and
follow
that
contour
along
there.
But
those
are
just
things
we
already
know
are
gonna
be
problems.
J
J
These
are
the
things
you
want
to
keep
in
mind
as
you're
having
this
topic
come
up
and
that's
really
what
the
intent
of
this
document
is
going
to
wind
up
being
that's
kind
of
the
overarching
introduction
to
this
document,
but
I
only
had
a
couple
more
slides
to
show
some
things
and
they're
really
just
they're
things
that
exist
just
inflow
outflow
of
folks
that
come
in
to
town
working
and
leaving
showing
where
they
are
and
that's
within.
That's
within
the
document.
J
The
main
thing
that
I
thought
was
really
interesting
is
that
you
show
North,
Eaton,
Northwest
farther
west
and
particularly
straight
south
and
southwest.
We
we
see
quite
a
few
coming
from
and
the
distances
we
see.
I
mean
this.
This
map,
it's
difficult
to
see,
but
I
mean
the
the
distances
that
we
see.
J
People
traveling,
I
I,
actually
think
that
that
probably
comes
more
from
your
previous
question
about
where
to
Lake
area
tech
students
fall
into
this
miss
this
mix
in,
even
though
in
the
census
they
may
not
up
as
living
in
there.
If
you
use
the
American
Community
Survey,
who
does
this
this
work
they
may
show
up
in
that?
So
chances
are
what
we're
seeing
is
we're
seeing
like
area
tech
students
that
live
here
and
are
working
here
and
they're,
showing
up
as
if
they're
commuting
but
they're.
J
Actually,
here,
I'm,
anticipating,
that's,
probably
what
we're
seeing
and
some
of
those
bright
reds
that
go
to
the
south
I
didn't
want
to
I.
Don't
want
you
to
think
we
need
to
have
a
superhighway
on
81,
I
I
didn't
mean
to
shut
up
the
conversation
about
the
roads.
If
there's
any
more,
we
can
certainly
talk
about
it.
Otherwise,
that
is
all
I
had
prepared
for
today.
I.
J
The
way
that
I
would
like
is
like
to
see
us
go
from
this
is
that
at
the
next
meeting,
I'll
set
aside
a
few
minutes
to
discuss
things
that
if
somebody
looks
at
it
and
goes,
you
know,
I
really
didn't
look
at
that.
That
close
the
last
time,
but
I
really
want
to
look
at
this.
Send
me
a
note,
say:
hey
I'd,
like
to
talk
about
this
at
the
next
meeting.
We'll
do
that
we'll
set
aside
that
part
at
the
beginning
and
then
we'll
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
section.
J
K
J
K
D
That's
a
good
point,
I
agree,
because
that's
one
of
the
things
that
the
hazard
mitigation
plan
that
the
county
and
the
city
adopted
here
just
last
year,
it
was
to
make
sure
that
we
were
incorporating
those
and
even
by
reference
within
the
future
planning
documents
with
the
city.
Those
are
good
points,
brandy,.
J
That
is
the
part
that
has
not
been
done
in
40
years,
so
40
we
had
not
yet
we
had
not
done
a
very.
It
was
helpful
because
we
had
a
land-use
inventory
that
was
done
as
we
had
started
this
process
and
we
went
through
and
tried
to
do
a
very
comprehensive
what
is
on
the
ground
now.
Here's
the
deal
with
this,
this
section
here
is
a
review
of
what
what
is
happening.
The
next
section
we'll
talk
about
is
now
we
know
what's
happening.
J
K
J
D
By
and
large,
most
of
the
comprehensive
land
use
plans
for
the
city
have
never
done.
An
inward
look
over
the
years
has
always
been
feature
out
of
outer
rim
kind
of
growth.
That's
what
he
has
that
as
the
trees
growing
concentric
Li.
Let's
take
a
look
at
those
rings
out
here,
but
not
we're
not
looking
at
the
old
little
narrow
rings.
You
know.
J
I
will
I'll
bury
the
lead
again,
it'll,
be
those
pages
62
to
130,
approximately,
which
again
don't
kid
you,
that's
not
all
words.
There
are
a
ton
of
maps
in
there
just
because
I
figured
the
better
way
it
was
to
graphically
show
it
then
to
describe
it,
but
don't
get
me
wrong.
I
had
plenty
of
words
in
there
too.
A
A
J
You
will
be
the
first
folks
to
see
the
actual
agenda
for
the
planners
conference
right
now.
South
Dakota
planners
conference
happens
every
year
last
year.
It
was
a
regional
conference
this
year
we're
back
to
a
South
Dakota
planners
conference,
which
has
its
strengths
and
weaknesses,
the
weaknesses
that
we
don't
draw
from
places
all
across
the
western
United
States.
The
strengths
is
that,
please
tell
me
this
will
open
it's
a
PDF.
Will
that
work
on
here?
Okay,
the
strength
is
that
we
can
really
tailor
it
to
what
we
need:
October,
17th
and
18th.
J
This
will
happen
at
the
crossroads
hotel
and
here
on
South
Dakota.
We
really
tried
to
focus
in
I'm.
The
president
of
planners
Association
and
I
really
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
had
things
that
we
dealt
with
every
day
with
a
few
exceptions
and
some
special
topics
and
frankly,
I
was
heavy-handed
in
the
short-term
rental
regulations
topic
that
I
wanted
to
have
someone
talk
about
it
because
I
had
at
least
six
communities
call
me
wondering
what
the
heck
to
do
about
that
over
the
course
of
about
three
weeks
the
spring.
J
So
we've
got
a
just
a
general
subdivision
review
and
approval
process
in
which
we're
going
to
talk
more
about
it's
going
to
be
what
to
look
for
not
necessarily
it's
gonna
be
less
checklists,
more
here's
what
we
look
for
here.
Here's
what
we
look
for
here,
an
affordable
housing
presentation
out
of
happy
in
Aberdeen
I,
talked
about
sign
ordinances
and
which
we're
going
to
bring
David
Hickey
in
and
again
that
we
need
to
edit
this,
but
he's
a
he
works
with
sign.
J
Association
national
national
group
have
him
in
to
try
and
talk
about
as
well
as
Patrick
Andrews,
who
was
a
counterpart
in
southeast
Council
of
Governments.
Both
have
worked
with
sign,
signed,
updates
and
I
really
am
interested
to
hear
what
we
hear
from
from
a
wider
base
and
and
get
some
of
that
initially,
that
was
planned
to
be
a
roundtable,
but
since
we
got
mr.
Hickey
to
come
like
why
take
away
from
someone
who's
coming
from
a
long
ways,
let's
let
him
talk
so
going
through
their
staff
reports.
J
Some
work
for
some
staff,
as
well
as
short-term
rentals
legal
issues
you
have
been
and
will
be
facing,
is
kind
of
an
annual
thing
in
which
we
have
the
South
Dakota
public
assurance
alliance.
Attorneys,
a
zach,
peterson
jack
heap
come
and
talk.
They
are
they.
They
speak
of
legal
issues
in
an
entertaining
way.
We'll
put
it
that
way
and
they
do
a
good
job
of
talking
about
what
we've
seen
in
the
past
and
what
we'll
see
again
and
ways
to
prepare
to
defend
your
decisions.
J
The
second
day
we
have
just
a
few
things
lined
up,
which
is
going
to
be,
but
I
think
they'll
be
really
good,
especially
considering
the
last
presenter.
I
know
as
really
really
good
and
that'd
be
me,
the
9
to
10:30
we're
gonna
have.
As
of
now,
we've
got
judge,
judge
pekus,
who
was
a
judge
who
was
involved
in
the
case
at
mccannon
Park,
where
they
are
taking
down
a
million-dollar
house.
J
They
took
down
sorry,
they
took
down
a
million-dollar
house,
he
he
plans,
we
want
him
more
it.
The
title
isn't
quite
right,
but
basically
we
we're
gonna.
We're
gonna
already
have
we're.
Gonna
already
have
staff
members
talk,
we're
gonna
have
attorneys
talk,
then
we're
gonna
ask
a
judge
to
talk
about
how
we
can
do
our
jobs
better
and
then
in
the
end,
what
I'm
going
to
talk
about
is
is
parliamentary
procedure
and
running
your
meetings
and
I
know
it
sounds
like
a
lot
of
fun.
You
should
stick
around
for
that.
You.
C
D
Because
of
what
hurons
been
doing
is
their
community
is
becoming
more
racially
and
economically
diverse
and
what
that
does
to
a
community
and
it's?
And
if
we
were
honest
about
workforce
development,
it's
it's
not
it's,
not
us,
because
we're
not
having
enough
babies.
It's
it's!
It's
it's
going
to
be
bringing
in
people
from
outside
that
are
that
are
no
different
than
us,
but
they
look
different.
You.
J
You're
right
and
I
yes
glossing
over
that's
a
mistake
because
part
of
the
reason
that's
there
it's
back
by
popular
demand.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
we
had
a
conference
there,
six
or
seven
years
ago,
and
it's
the
presentation
that
everyone
remembers
from
going
to
hear
on
and
it's
one
that
everyone
wanted
to
hear
an
update
on,
because.
D
J
D
H
K
H
J
G
D
C
D
J
J
C
K
J
Last
point:
the
this
agenda
will
will
be
sent
out
it
plans
to
be
sent
out
tomorrow,
and
the
registrations
I
would
expect
you're
going
to
see
them
on
Monday
Brandi,
okay,
they'll
be
circulated
through
I
just
wanted
to
a
lot
of
times.
I
wind
up
touching
base
with
you
three
four
weeks
before
it
happens.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
at
least
enough
time
that
you
can
start
to
think
about
whether
or
not
you
can
or
want
to
make
it.
You.
A
J
D
Ago
we
would
use
two
VHS
tape.
We
would
tape
these
things
and
we
didn't
have
the
ability
to
make
them,
but
we
passed
him
around
to
membership,
but
I
think
if,
as
long
as
the
speakers
are,
okay
and
everybody's
got
phones,
if
somebody
we
could
probably
get
things
recorded
and
then
put
them
out
as
well,
I
think
it
would
be
great
that.
J
Had
that
request
out
of
both
the
brookings
and
you
are
actually
you're
you're,
not
alone,
and
you
can
tell
looking
at
the
time
of
year
and
knowing
that
we
not
only
have
cities
we
have
counties.
I
can
tell
you
the
kind
in
County,
Planning
Commission
every
year
tells
me
how
much
they
hate.
When
we
have
this,
because
I
can't
get
a
farmer
to
attend
this,
and
so
yes,
I'm
gonna
do
my
best
to
figure
out
a
way
I'm,
not
making
any
guarantees
yet.
But
I'm
gonna
try
to
thank.