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From YouTube: BOA & Plan Commission Meeting 09 20 2018
Description
Board of Adjustment Agenda for September 20, 2018
A
C
B
C
C
B
D
A
E
B
Owner
applicant
is
Samantha
Schwalm
for
swamp
corporation,
doing
business
as
the
lounge
at
21
North
maple.
The
conditional
use
request
is
that
the
applicant
seeks
approval
to
continue
the
sale
serving
and
consumption
of
alcoholic
beverages
and
the
operation
of
video
lottery
machines
in
the
c1
community,
commercial
district
pursuant
to
21,
24,
Oh,
3/4,
bar
or
tavern,
and
engine
contingent
upon
compliance
with
2101
excuse
me,
2.0,
102
location
and
specific
rules
governing
individual
conditional
uses,
which
is
21
Oh
OH
to
be
7
A
through
H.
B
This
property
consists
of
a
7170
square
foot,
circa,
1912
commercial
building
with
a
3585
square
foot
footprint
located
on
a
3585
point,
5
3
square
foot
parcel
the
parcel
has
been
previously
operated
as
a
bar
tavern,
but
staff
could
not
find
site
approval
for
the
use.
So
the
staff
findings
are
that
bar
or
tavern
is
a
listed
conditional
use
for
the
c1
community
commercial
district
for
21
24.
B
Oh
three
for
the
definition
of
bar
tavern
is
any
establishment,
including
restaurants
and
gambling
establishments
licensed
to
sell
alcoholic
beverages
for
consumption
upon
the
premises
where
sold
or
provided
the
term
bar
tavern
shall
also
include
establishments
licensed
to
sell
alcoholic
beverages
for
consumption
off
the
premises
were
sold.
The
applicants
submitted
a
floor
plan
showing
the
interior
layout
of
the
bar
seating
and
video
lottery
area
of
the
3585
square-foot
main
level
and
site
plan,
which
reflects
or
does
not
reflect
the
following
requirements
of
the
ordinance
section.
B
2.0,
102
location,
the
c1
community,
commercial
district
is
exempt
from
this
restriction.
So
we
don't
have
to
talk
about
that.
Chapter
21
63
is
off
street
parking
and
loading
requirements.
The
see
the
c1
district
is
exempt
from
off
street
parking
requirements.
Also
chapter
21,
65,
outside
storage
and
display
requirements
for
specific
uses
outside
display
was
not
indicated
on
the
application
or
in
the
application
chapter,
21,
73,
landscape
and
lighting
standards.
This
property
has
zero
Boulevard
grass
and
trees.
B
However,
this
portion
of
the
c1
district
is
also
exempt
from
these
requirements,
to
the
extent
that
it
currently
complies
chapter
one
chapter,
twenty
one,
eighty
signs
and
outdoor
advertising
again
signage
was
not
addressed
in
the
application.
It
apparently
is
staying
as
is,
and
has
been
for
quite
some
time.
This
board
must
determine
if
satisfactory
provision
and
Raymond
has
been
made
concerning
21:02
o22,
v7
A
through
H,
and
the
chapters
described
that
I
just
described
for
bar
tavern
to
continue
to
be
operated
at
this
location.
A
F
View
halts
just
FYI.
We
would
never
pull
the
liquor
license
away
from
these
people.
It'd
be
grandfathered
in
to
be
there
forever,
regardless
whether
we
came
to
the
board
or
not,
but
it's
just
were
coming
to
the
board
to
make
it
legal
and
put
it
on
paper
so
that
they
have
the
advantage
of
fair
loan
or
insurance
or
any
other
reason
they
get
shown
in
paper
that
it
exists.
So.
G
F
Once
we
grant
the
liquor
license
for
a
piece
of
property,
we've
granted
it
for
the
property
forever
in
perpetuity.
Actually
it
has
to
go
to
the
City
Council
for
the
transfer
of
the
liquor
license
in
or
out,
and
they
have
a
second
chance
or
option
to
do
it
if
they
want
to
do
it.
For
that
thing,
we're
just
saying
that
the
land
is
blessed
and
it.
G
A
A
A
I
B
The
neighborhood,
routine
neighborhood
retail
establishments,
as
defined
by
ordinance,
is
a
listed
permitted
or
conditional
use
in
the
r
2,
r,
2a,
r,
3
and
c
2
districts,
while
retail
establishments,
as
divine
defined
by
ordinance,
is
neither
a
listed
permitted
nor
conditional
use
in
the
r2
single-family
attached
to
residential
district.
It
is
listed
in
the
C
1,
see
three
and
B
P
districts
VP
being
business
park.
Nevertheless,
the
boa
granted
conditional
use
approval
to
allow
this
retail
establishment
and
the
expansion
of
it
in
the
R
to
a
zone.
B
Previously,
the
definition
of
legal
non-conforming
building
is
a
building
which
does
not
comply
with
all
of
the
regulations
of
this
ordinance
or
any
amendment.
Here
to
governing
area
and
bulk
for
the
zoning
district
in
which
such
building
is
located,
but
which
was
constructed
with
a
lawfully
issued
building
permit.
This
definition
shall
not
be
deemed
to
include
structures
for
which
no
building
permit
was
issued
or
obtained.
The
site
plan
and
written
requests
provided
reflects
compliance
or
non-compliance
with
the
following
requirements
of
the
ordinance
21:02
o2
to
be
7.
B
A
through
H
is
the
specific
rules
governing
individual
conditional
uses,
such
as
ingress
egress
off
street
parking
and
loading
screening,
buffering
signage,
refuse,
exterior
lighting
required
yards
and
open
space
and
general
compatibility.
The
new
fence
screening
in
the
northwest
corner
of
308
fifth
Street
southeast
is
not
shown
on
the
site
plan
that
was
submitted.
The
building
official
will
address
this
in
a
few
moments:
chapter
21,
63,
off-street
parking
and
loading
requirements
and
engineering
design
standards.
The
alley
is
used
to
access
customer
parking.
The
paving
of
the
alley
may
be
considered
as
a
condition.
B
Chapter
21,
65,
outside
storage
and
display
requirements
for
for
specific
uses
outside
displays
of
merchandise
is
permitted
and
outside
storage
may
be
with
approved
screening
neither
were
addressed
in
the
submitted
application
chapter.
21
73
landscape
and
lighting
standards,
minimally
parking
lot.
Screening
from
adjacent
residential
II
used
property
is
required
in
chapter
21,
80
signs
and
outdoor
advertising.
Signage
was
not
addressed.
This
board
must
determine
if
satisfactory
provision
and
arrangement
has
been
made
concerning
2102
o
to
be
7
A
through
H
and
the
chapters
reviewed
previously.
This
parcel
lacks
standard
Boulevard
requirements.
B
If
application
is
endorsed,
this
board
consider
requiring
fulfillment
of
the
lacking
Boulevard
requirements
and/or
any
other
conditions
of
approval
deemed
necessary,
such
as
limiting
outside
storage
displays
in
parking
areas
paving
of
the
alley,
screening,
etc.
In
conjunction
with
any
authorized
structural
improvements,
chapter
21,
9,
901
and/or,
section
21,
Oh
OH
2f,
may
also
be
exercised.
A
I'm,
a
little
confused
from
a
process
standpoint
how
we
get
to
the
point
we're
at
today
seeing
that
we
did
talk
about
this
again
approximately
six
months
ago
and
given
the
actions
that
we
took
on
that
date.
So
it
seems
as
though
we're
back
reviewing
the
same
request.
A
second
time
is
is
that,
in
line
with
the
processes
that
we've
typically
established
for
this.
B
B
E
F
G
F
Well
told
and
believe
it
or
not,
they
are
totally
in
compliance
with
the
ordinance
with
this
structure
now
I'm
not
talking
about
everything
on
the
property,
but
this
structure
is
conforming
and
set
backs
and
it's
built
and
everything
else.
It
was
just
built
without
a
permit,
and
the
original
request
was
for
me
to
dinner,
to
have
it
tore
down
and
when
it
came
to
the
board
last
time
the
board
did
not
resend
my
request
to
have
it
tore
down,
so
they
just
left
my
requirement
in
place.
F
We
gave
him
a
hundred
eighty
days
to
do
it
and
it
hasn't
been
done.
They're
coming
back
and
re
asking
that
if
we
can
leave
that
portion
in
place
and
just
pay
the
applicable
permit
and
fine.
Typically,
if
somebody
comes
before
me
and
and
I
catch
them,
building
something
without
a
permit,
they
get
double
fine.
So
if
it
cost
$500
rechargable
thousand.
That's
the
typical
scenario.
Last.
G
G
E
A
J
J
A
We
did
have
issues
with
the
fans
and
then
we'd
further
instructed
them
to
I.
Think
raised
the
height
of
the
fence
along
your
property
line.
To
eight
foot
was
that
completed
to
the
requirements,
then
the
further
issue
with
the
fence
that
we
discussed
six
months
ago,
was
that
it
wrapped
around
on
the
front
side
which
wasn't
part
of
the
building
permit,
that
they
were
granted,
and
they
were
advised
to
remove
that
as
well.
Well,.
F
G
G
F
G
J
G
A
G
G
F
G
Mean
you've
got
you've,
got
illegal,
non-conforming
structures
that
are
located
on
the
property,
we're
being
asked
to
approve
one
addition
to
a
structure
that
would
be
conforming
an
asking
for
another
structure:
that's
non-conforming!
So
if
we
want
to
allow
one,
why
can't
we
get
rid
of
some
of
the
others.
H
I
K
K
F
Had
the
neighbor
to
the
South
contact
me
and
complain
about
those
sheds
that
are
too
close
to
the
property
line
they're
just
in
the
past,
so
just
an
FYI
I've
also
pointed
out
one
more
issue
with
this
time:
that's
a
little
bit
different
than
the
last
time.
There
is
a
provision
within
the
ordinance
that
does
allow
the
board
to
assess
the
$25
day
per
fine
if
the
actions
aren't
carried
out
within
the
time
that
you
designate
so.
F
K
F
B
C
H
D
F
G
B
They
were,
should
I
read
that
portion
to
you
in
the
June
23rd
2016
meeting,
where
the
this
addition
was
approved.
It
says
that
there
was
much
discussion
regarding
unlawful
permitted
structures
and
the
height
length
and
extent
of
the
screen
fence
after
several
several
revisions
to
motions
made
stone
marker
motion
to
approve
conditional
to
securing
legal
permits
for
the
unlawful
structures,
no
more
accessory
structures
and
providing
a
mutually
acceptable
privacy
fence
up
to
9
foot
screening,
the
residential
property
to
the
north.
B
B
A
F
Just
did
a
clarification
with
attorney
that,
even
if
so,
if
we
can't
order
them
directly
away,
if
you
have
an
approval,
though
of
this,
you
can
make
a
conditional
upon
him
all
by
himself
agreeing
to
take
them
away
without
actually
ordering
them
away,
but
it
can
be
a
condition.
If
you
want
this,
then
you
have
to
do
this
type
thing.
Giving.
B
E
If
we
do
some
sort
of
goofy
horse
trading
thing,
does
that
obfuscate,
the
remediation
process
or
drag
it
out
longer?
If
we
end
up
in
the
same
position
in
90
days
or
60
days
or
30
days
or
whatever
it
is,
you
know
what
I'm
saying
it:
will
it
make
it
harder
to
get
a
court
order?
Do
you
think
to
tear
it
down,
I
think.
E
E
I
get
I
guess
my
fear
is
that
we
end
up.
We
delay
the
process.
We
give
them
another
chance
when
they've
had
what
appears
to
be
a
lot
of
different
chances
and
have
missed
the
deadline
a
lot
of
different
times,
and
then
we
end
up
in
the
same
situation,
but
we've
actually
hurt
our
position
in
terms
of
we're
meet
we're
meeting
remediating
the
issue
I'm,
not
using
the
right
word.
What
is
it
a.
H
E
L
C
A
K
C
K
J
J
A
J
I
Guess
I
feel
that
this
is
a
business
and
I,
don't
know
any
other
businesses
in
town
that
would
continue
to
just
you
know,
make
fools
of
us,
because
that's
kind
of
how
I
feel
we've
asked
them
to
do
things
and
I'm
really
not
going
to
horse-trade
anything
I.
Think
we've
given
them
six
months
here
to
get
this
done.
I
They
sat
here
and
told
us
that
they
would
have
it
done
they've
have
it
all
summer
we're
looking
at
October
here
and
now,
all
of
a
sudden
we're
going
to
get
motivated
and
get
it
done,
I'm
not
doing
any
horse
trading
at
this
point,
any
other
business
would
just
be
forced
to
do
it
or
or
whatever
I
mean
I
I
had
nothing
against
the
business.
It's
the
fact
that
when
you're
asked
to
do
something
and
just
blatantly
not
do
it
or
do
what
you
want
to
do
is.
H
G
G
You
either
put
the
barricade
up,
you
don't
Park
on
it
or
we
started
having
the
cops
go
by
every
day
and
ticket
them
for
not
parking
there
and
then,
if
we
can
get
rid
of
three
of
those
sheds,
if
that's
causing
a
problematic
or
get
them
to
move
those
so
that
they
are
conforming
with
the
city's
ordinance.
We
don't
do
something
on
a
horse
trading
day.
We're
gonna
miss
that
opportunity
until
those
sheds
are
burned
down
or
blown
away
yeah.
A
K
I
I
see
your
point
it's
truly,
but
for
me
the
principle
of
the
building
permit
process
is
not
does
not
involve
a
horse.
Trade
and
I
think
that
in
my
mind,
if
you
look
at
the
history
as
an
example
that
we
want
to
be
strong
and
set
and
write
the
wrong,
the
small
wrong
that
was
done
was
back
when,
when
all
these
exemptions
and
the
permits
and
the
the
afterthoughts
were
allowed,
that's
the
small
wrong
the
big
run
was
the
building
permit
process
was
not
followed
and
I.
Believe
that's.
G
Neither
permit
which
then
moves
it
straight
to
Circuit
Court
or
we
accept
their
permit
with
the
horse
trading.
So
if
you
want
your,
you
want
your
pound
of
flesh
for
not
doing
the
the
building
permit
process
we
deny.
If
you
want
to
try
to
fix
the
situation
long
term,
then
we're
gonna
have
to
approve
the
request
with
conditions
and
that's
how
the
conditions
where
we
make
the
sheds
and
the
fence
go
away.
That's
the.
H
K
If
it
would
be,
are
we
positive
that
if
we
horse
traded
that
this
would
go
to
court
or
not
I,
guess
or
could
could
could
it
go
to
court
and
the
court
would
say?
Well
I,
don't
like
that
agreement?
Yes,
you
can
keep
your
sheds
and
you
can
keep
your
awning
and
we're
what
adjustment
that's
too
bad.
Are
we
running
that
risk?
I
mean
it
is
a
port.
You
know
you.
H
E
B
E
Only
instance
in
particular,
where
I
would
support
approving
this
would
be
in
the
instance
where
we
did
apply
the
civil
penalty,
although
I
don't
think
it's
very
effective.
I
mean
I
think
that
we
should
have
it
on
there
and
the
time
frame
be
very
small,
be
a
very
small
period
of
time
with
which
to
act
not
180
days,
I'm,
talking
30,
maybe
15
or
10,
because
I
think
that
sends
a
clear
message,
but
outside
of
that
I.
Don't
think
that
we
continue
to
allow
anything
like
this.
D
H
E
D
E
H
H
I
G
G
H
E
D
D
Rather
than
rather
than
going
for
all
of
the
non-conforming
buildings,
the
property
and
making
that
untenable
from
the
applicants
standpoint,
is
there
something
from
your
standpoint
that
would
be
something
less
than
that
that
would
have
a
better
chance
of
succeeding
of
having
them
remove
some,
but
not
all
of
the
sheds.
For
example,
if
we
were
gonna
make
that
motion
I.
J
J
G
H
M
K
K
C
A
H
The
end
result
of
that
is
the
same
as
if
you
would,
as
if
you
as
it
as
it
would
be,
if
you
were
to
deny
it
in
that,
we
would
just
seek
to
take
down
the
canopy
the
end
result,
they
just
say
no
we're
leaving
the
sheds.
Okay,
the
canopy
comes
down.
If
you
guys
deny
this
request,
the
canopy
comes
down
same
result,
either
way,
at
least
with.
When
you
put
that
conditioner
there's
a
chance,
they
might
agree
to
remove
the
let.
A
L
Chair
before
you
close,
the
public
hearing
could
I
just
try
to
put
a
bowl
on
some
of
the
discussion.
You've
got
here
and
I
think
I'm
restating
some
of
what's
been
said,
but
basically
what
you
had
and
I
wasn't
here
of
six
months
ago,
it
sounds
like
you
made
an
order
that
involved
taking
down
some
some
structures,
including
this
particular
canopy,
had
they
actually
complied
with
that,
as
was
the
order
of
the
board,
they
in
theory
could
have
come
back
and
asked
for
this
request.
Essentially
what
they're
doing
is
they're
asking?
L
L
We
said
anyway,
when
we
did
that,
and
my
only
suggestion
is-
and
of
course
the
attorney
can
disagree
with
can
can
straighten
me
out
if
I'm
wrong,
but
the
suggestion
would
be
that
if,
if
you
are
inclined
to
vote,
no
that
that
would
probably
be
the
line
you
want
to
go
with
is
that
is
that
it's
really
out
order
until
what
we
ordered
them
to
do.
The
first
time
is
taken
care
of,
then
maybe
we
look
at
it.
E
I
M
H
F
G
F
There's
never
been
the
teeth
to
follow
through
with
it
and
gets
you
sure.
Somebody
at
$200
day,
fine
and
every
day
is
a
separate
single
new
one.
But
if
you're
given
a
period
of
time,
be
it
ten
days
15
days
or
30
days,
no
more
than
30,
and
then
it's
set
in
place
that
that's
that's
a
different
approach
says
you
know:
you're
gonna
be
fine
that
this
trespasses
past
this
point
so.
G
Guess,
I
guess
what
I
was
just
trying
to
get
to?
Is
that
the
only
thing
that
we
have
to
trade
I
think
somebody's
talked
about
horse
trading
is
free
trade,
as
the
trade
has
to
happen
today,
if
we
say
no
to
their
request
and
we
go
to
court
and
even
if
we
win
at
the
court,
the
canopy
and
the
fence
maybe
goes
down,
but
you
don't
have
a
chance.
G
There's
another
bite
at
the
Apple
for
the
other
things
that
are
non-conforming,
because
this
bore
a
previous
board
has
blessed
now
granted
whether
that
was
a
legal
action.
That's
something
all
completely
different.
They
had
the
authority
to
do
that,
but
they
did,
and
we
haven't
done
anything
for
two
or
eight
or
15
years,
wherever
the
number
is
so
where
I'm
at
with
it
is
I,
would
I
would
if
the
endgame
is
court
one
way
or
the
other
I
like
to
position
ourselves
in
a
place
that
we
can
maybe
get
something
more
than
just.
G
A
And
my
other
thought
is:
had
they
done
that
in
the
right
order,
where
they
came
to
us
asking
for
the
conditional
use
you
know
prior
to
building
the
structure.
I
think
that's
how
the
conversation
would
have
gone
where
we
had
looked
at
some
of
those
non-conforming
sheds
and
said
that
yeah
you
can
build
that
canopy
as
long
as
you
remove
the
sheds
that
are
not
in
conformance.
G
I'll
start
I
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
request
to
allow
the
canopy
to
be
allowed,
with
the
following
caveat
that
the
either
defense
in
the
northwest
corner
of
300.
What's
what's
the
address,
308
is
removed
or
is
constructed
that
complies
with
code
or
the
no
parking
is
allowed
on
that
spot,
and
the
three
sheds
that
are
non-conforming
in
the
southeast
corner
are
removed
from
the
property
and
to
instruct
the
code
enforcement
portion
of
the
city
to
apply
any
applicable
fines
or
legal
actions.
G
G
I
I
G
G
G
G
K
G
Chair
I
would
I
would
again
my
mum
original
motion.
The
motion,
as
the
intent
is,
is
that
the
sheds
are
to
be
removed.
The
fence
is
either
torn
down
or
constructed
to
conform
with
the
ordinance,
and
there
is
no
parking
to
be
allowed
on
that
pad
if
their
offences
to
stay
there
and
any
of
all
those
things
happening
fifteen
days,
hence
results.
C
G
A
D
B
A
C
A
E
A
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C
A
N
E
L
Thank
you.
Everyone
again
for
the
third
installment
looks
like
we're.
Gonna
have
four
of
these
installments,
if
not
one
more,
maybe
after
that,
I
am
Luke
Muller
as
you're
aware,
first
District
Association
of
Governments
here
to
review
the
comprehensive
Land
Use
Plan,
which
is
of
course
been
out
on
the
city's
website.
We've
been
going
through
this
you're
very
comfortable
with
it.
L
I
too,
am
very
comfortable
because
today
I'm
on
vacation,
as
you
can
tell,
by
the
way
that
I've
unbuttoned
this
button
right
here,
I
feel
very
relaxed
today,
but
I
am
here
to
present
to
you,
so
I'll
be
ready
with
the
quick
wit.
Here
we
go
in
here.
It's
basically
the
same
format
we've
been
doing
in
the
past.
Today
we
get
into
a
little
more
of
whether
it
was
narrowly
defined.
As
far
as
what
we
were
talking
about,
you
know
some
some
things
I
did
want.
To
recap.
L
We
spent
a
lot
of
time,
of
course,
talking
about
what
the
lay
of
the
land
from
a
standpoint
of
what
is
going
on
on
the
ground
out
there.
At
the
last
meeting
we
talked
about
current
service
areas
of
things.
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
parks,
I
did
follow
up
and
found
out,
and
unless
someone
found
different
information
found
out
that
the
the
walk
initiative,
the
ten
minute
walk,
was
actually
did
reference.
L
A
half
mile
walk
made
me
feel
much
better
for
the
for
using
that
I
knew
I
got
that
number
from
somewhere,
so
that
was
that
was
with
some
of
that
information,
but
and
I
asked
brandy.
Some
of
those
things
we
talked
about,
we
have
been
doing
a
formal
adoption
of
those
on
the
old
business.
I
was
just
thinking
that
we
may
wait
until
one
more
meeting
down
the
road
to
formally
adopt
that
we
talked
about
the
last
time
just
to
instruct
me.
Okay,.
L
For
later
on
so
thing,
we're
going
to
do
today
review
the
document
and
the
the
items
we're
gonna
review
and
I
I
did
swap
this
I
wish
I'd.
Given
you
a
little
more
heads
up
on
how
I
was
gonna
talk
about
this,
but
we're
gonna
talk
about
future
land
use
of
the
redevelopment
area,
the
existing
part
of
town
today
and
then
the
other
thing
is
I'm.
Just
I'm
really
just
going
to
show
the
table
in
the
implementation
section
and
170
I
think
the
page
is
172
is
where
it
starts,
where
it
references
what
it
does.
L
Is
it
it
references
within
the
future
land
use
map
within
the
developed
areas?
There
is
a
color
that
corresponds
with
each
color
on
the
map,
and
it
gives
a
give
the
recommendation
as
far
as
zoning
districts
that
may
apply
to
that
and
that
sort
of
thing,
as
well
as
examples
of
what
that
sort
of
development
would
look
like.
I,
really
want
to
point
you
to
that,
so
that
I
know
that
you've
looked
at
that
very
closely
for
the
next
meeting.
I
was
kind
of
hoping
to
talk
about
it
here,
but
I
really
don't
think.
L
There's
a
prayer,
we're
gonna,
spend
a
whole
lot
of
time.
Looking
at
that
today,
so
we'll
point
at
that
right
before
I
go
here
so
today,
getting
into
it
we're
talking
about
the
future
land
use
in
this
area.
In
this
portion,
we've
got
the
section
136
to
140,
really
is
an
introduction
to
it
identifies
the
fact
that
we've
got
a
redevelopment,
which
is
the
redevelopment
of
the
existing
portion
of
town
part,
that's
already
annexed
versus
a
future
development
outside
of
town.
L
Today,
we're
talking
about
the
redevelopment,
it
references,
some
some
key
points
within
that
introduction
that
we've
got
the
expansion
to
allow
for
the
expansion
of
intensive
uses
that
we
have
out
there
like
the
hospitals
like
Harriet
act,
the
airport,
some
commercial
uses
and
industrial
uses.
We
reference
some
unique
forms
of
similar
development.
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
trying
to
tone
down
a
way
of
saying
that
we
got
we
we
got
very
informal.
Today
we
have
a
lot
of
land
uses
in
town.
We
have
a
c3
district
in
which
we
use
virtually
every
commercial
use.
L
L
Bottom
line
is
even
though,
and
I
talked
about
I've
harped
on
this
a
few
times,
and
we've
done
this,
where
we've
updated
on
the
on
the
fringe
of
town,
because
that's
what
the
town
want
to
look
at
even
when
this
was
done
many
years
ago,
I've
thrown
the
number
around
about
40
years
ago,
even
when
this
was
done.
The
last
time
I
think
the
argument
could
be
made.
L
It
wasn't
really
a
pragmatic
approach
to
what
was
going
on,
because
the
answer,
if
you
look
at
those
strategies,
it
was
along
the
lines
that
kicked
their
kick
them
on
their
sorry
bums.
If
they're
in
the
wrong
spot
is
what
amounts
to
if
they're
in
a
non-conforming
use
which
don't
get
me
wrong.
That's
what
the
language
says
is
that,
if
they're
in
a
spot
that
should
be
zoned
commercial
but
they're
a
house
kick
them
out
of
the
house
and
make
them
rezone
it.
L
That's,
essentially
what
the
what
it
said
and
in
fact
of
the
matter
is
we've
had
that
policy
or
we
had
that
policy
40
years
ago.
We
didn't
kick
them
out
and
frankly,
probably
not
going
to
in
most
cases.
So
let's
take
a
pragmatic
approach
to
what
are
we
going
to
do
in
these
cases?
So
that's
the
introductory
standpoint
really
in
the
beginning
part,
we
just
lay
out
there.
What
do
we
mean
by
residential?
L
You
know,
single-family
we're
seeing
two
and
a
half
to
three
units
per
acre
and
future
development
we
do
have
is
up
to
close
to
five,
maybe
even
closer
to
six
in
some
cases
and
developed
areas
of
town
on
single-family
development,
multifamily,
these
six
between
six
and
forty
units
per
acre,
of
course,
when
you're
talking
anywhere
from
duplexes
to
apartment
complexes
that
can
be
different
up
and
down.
It's
not
like
it's
a
limit,
but
it's
just
kind
of
tells
us.
That's
a
general
range
that
we've
got.
L
Obviously
that
multitude
say
obviously
multifamily
should
work
its
way
from
higher
intensive
land
uses
as
well
as
higher
traffic
areas.
So
you
think
about
that.
If
you've
got
a
collector
Street
or
an
arterial
and
you're
gonna
have
residential
uses,
let's
not
have
houses
out
there.
Let's
have
multifamily.
In
those
cases
manufactured
homes
are
gonna,
be
similar
to
single-family,
except
for
they're
gonna,
be
a
little
higher
density
because
they
use
a
little
bit
less
land
and
sometimes
they'll
have
a
park
closer
to
them.
L
Commercial
uses
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
clustered
commercial
development
trying
to
avoid
strip
development
and
that
strip
development
is
is,
is
a
term
that
we
use
in
planning
doesn't
mean
what
some
other
people
think
it
means.
What
that
means
is
that
it
is
it's
the
corridor.
Development
is
what
that
is
we're
trying
to
avoid
a
long
stretch.
Three
and
a
half
mile
long
corridor
of
commercial
stretch.
We'd
rather
have
we'd,
have
rather
have
clustered
commercial
development.
L
If
we
can,
if
we
can
help
it
and
that's
really
what
we're
gonna
strive
towards
and
that's
again,
that's
within
the
previous
plans
also
talking
about
embracing,
encouraging
unique
neighborhood
development,
so
that
we
can
point
out
that
the
and
embrace
the
fact
that
the
development
on
north
81
is
different
than
the
development
on
West
to
12
and
is
different
than
the
development
on
East
to
12
and
so
on.
Open
the
door
for
mixed
uses.
That's
been
taboo
in
this
town
for
many
years
to
have
mixed
uses
anywhere
other
than
downtown
here
in
town.
L
Try
to
open
that
door
so
that
we've
got
that
ability,
whether
it
be
in
in
the
same
structure
or
just
within
one
sort
of
a
campus,
which
we
need
to
allow
that
ability.
Since
we've
got
some
of
those
uses.
As
far
as
industrial
uses,
there's
some
general
statements
into
there,
but
we
really
want
them
clustered
into
industrial
parks
so
that
we're
not
scattering
particularly
heavy
industrial
uses
into
areas
that
you
have
say
large
congregations
of
folks
right
next
to
a
place
where
we're
going
to
eat
food
or
get
our
food
or
something
along
those
lines.
L
But
just
have
some
general
things
into
there.
They
need
to
compare,
think
compatibility
with
the
adjacent
land
use
gradual
transition.
If
we
can
proximity
to
arterial
transportation,
railroad
access
and
the
ability
to
have
large
lots
if
need
be,
and
then
also
we
need
to
think
about,
can
we
economically
provide
services
to
these
areas
so
meaning
that
we
need
to
be?
We
can't
be
planning
these
things
out
on
the
very
stub
end
of
our
water
service
area.
We
need
to
be
planning
within
areas
that
we
can
strong.
L
We
can
serve
them
well,
public
and
quasi
public
institutional
information.
We
just
planned
out
within
there
that
we're
going
to
have
it's.
It's
really
been
a
trend
that
we
that
places
are
adding
more
quality
of
life
items,
and
we've
already
talked
about
that
fact.
We'd
like
to
see
more
parks,
we'd
like
to
make
sure
that
we
are
developing,
maybe
not
more,
but
in
the
same
line
that
we
have
in
the
past
as
far
as
the
number
of
parks.
L
L
So
keep
that
in
mind
a
lot
of
those
institutional
uses
do
wind
up
being
in
residential
areas
last
part
from
a
general
and
I'm
really
going
fast
on
this
conversation,
because
this
is
only
four
pages,
but
it
really
lays
out
just
kind
of
the
general
strategies
behind
this
open
space
and
egg
uses.
A
lot
of
this
really
carries
forward
from
the
old
plan.
L
Don't
know
if
you
realize
it,
but
your
your
agricultural
district
in
the
town
also
has
a
35
acre
lot
minimum
in
your
town
as
well.
Just
for
example,
bottom
line
is
the
suggestion
in
here
is
to
have
a
mrs.
something
has
been
talked
about
for
many
years
in
groups
here.
Is
that
to
have
what
amounts
to
it's
a
holding
district
as
what
amounts
to
I?
Don't
know
what
what
you're
going
to
name
it,
but
it
amounts
to
a
holding
district
instead
of
automatically
zoning.
L
G
C
L
Exactly
the
basically
there's
no
subdivision,
no
anything,
it's
just
it's
that
case
where
you're
pulling
in
some
property,
but
you
don't
have
a
master
plan
on
it
yet
or
you
don't
have
a
owning
tied
to
it.
That
we,
of
course,
do
have
some
properties
that
wind
up
and
that,
where
we've
had
some
were
they
annex
one
property
at
a
time
say,
despite
the
fact,
they've
got
a
master
plan
outside
of
the
county
that
might
help
to
alleviate
that
aspect
as
well
that
they're
doing
it
I.
C
L
That
we
understand
here
that
that
zoning
and
Taxation
do
not
they're
not
the
same
thing.
I,
don't
think
everyone
understands
that
it
leaves
the
door
open
for
that,
as
well
as
as
as
Todd
had
said,
that
if
someone
does
have
it
in,
but
they've
got
some
time
to
master
plan,
they
have
a
master
plan
de
yeah.
That
leaves
that
that
ability,
open,
I,
agree,
I
think
that
it
it
makes
sense
to
have
that
conservative
zoning
next
to
it.
L
L
Correct
they
will
have
to
go
back
and
rezone
it
could
be.
You
could
certainly
you'd,
certainly
leave
it
that
way
as
well.
That's
why
it's
a
policy,
but
the
bottom
line
is:
is
that
right
now
you
don't
have
it
in
you,
you
wouldn't
have
the
you
wouldn't
have
that
option
to
even
put
that
tool
in
the
toolbox.
I!
Don't
disagree
that
you
could
you
could
do
that
as
well,
but
there
are
parts
as
we
get
off
to
the
fringe
of
how
they
want
to
handle
it.
L
Guess
it's
gonna
go
our
one,
but
that's
one
of
the
hang-ups
that
we
do
have
I
think
we
all
know
how
difficult
it
is
to
to
initially
zone
something
at
one
level
and
then
once
development
happens
up
to
that
point,
rezoning
it
to
something
different
does
become,
does
become
difficult,
so
it
does
put
more
pressure
on
the
preliminary
plan
process.
You're
right,
though
brandy.
L
L
Is
it
amounts
to
within
each
of
those
within
each
of
those
redevelopment
areas
included
some
of
those
commercial
strips
that
we
had
talked
about
I
believe
there
are
seven
of
those
as
well,
and
so,
whichever
one,
whichever
one
of
those
redevelopment
areas
included
the
most
of
that
of
that
commercial
area,
we
talked
about
some
of
those
strategies
within
that,
as
well
as
we
went
through
in
handling
this
and
I.
Guess.
L
As
far
as
drafting
a
policy
document
like
this
we're
doing
a
few
things
here,
we're
combining
the
policies
the
decisions
have
been
made
over
the
past
many
years,
some
of
the
things
that
going
back
all
the
way,
the
last
time,
all
the
way,
the
last
time
that
the
zoning
ordinance
there
land-use
plan
was
adopted,
you
had
a
document
that
was
called
on
the
radar
that
was
out
there,
some
of
those
things
that
were
talked
about
hey.
We
ought
to
do
this
on
a
rainy
day,
some
of
those
things
creep
into
here.
L
Some
of
the
things
that
we
hear
hey
we
granted
these
variances.
Would
it
be
nice
if
we
had
a
way
to
do
this
without
doing
that,
found
ways
to
creep
that
into
there
we
held
meetings
where
we
talked
to
the
Planning
Commission
about
hey.
How
would
you
like
to
handle
this
that
and
the
other
thing
where
some
of
the
important
things
were
some
of
the
policies?
L
L
Why
you're
looking
at
it
making
sure
that
yeah
that
doesn't
make
sense,
or
else
that
is
a
ridiculous
idea
and
let's
get
rid
of
it,
so
I
want
to
preface
that,
as
we
look
at
these
couple
of
planning
commit,
there
are
certain
planning
considerations
that
ultimately
were
repeating
over
and
over
again,
and
those
are
the
ones
that
are
on
this
slide
and
realize
just
how
dark
that
bottom
gets
on
there.
So
I'm
gonna,
yeah.
L
L
L
What
it
amounts
to
that
is
a
trillion
a
belen
to
what's
called
a
form-based
zoning,
and
some
of
these
that's
what
it
goes
into.
All
we're
really
doing
in
those
cases
is
we're
saying
here
are
the
things
that
are
gonna
happen
on
this
property
and
we
don't
plan
on
getting
any
closer
than
this
to
our
edges.
As
long
as
we
do
that,
are
we
good
yep?
L
Okay,
then
all
we
need
is
building
permits,
after
that,
that's
what
it
amounts
to
that
sort
of
thing
would
be
designed
to
handle
and
the
reason
that
that
comes
up
and
we'll
talk
about
that.
We
have
some
commercial
uses
that
go
on
in
residential,
his
own
properties.
In
town,
we
have
some
commercial
uses
that
go
on
in
in
in
agricultural,
his
own
properties
in
town
and,
frankly,
let's
make
them
what
they
are.
We
also
have
some
things
that
are
just
flat-out
not
allowed
anywhere,
but
they
make
perfect
sense
with
the
use
its
going
on.
L
We
also
see
uses
that
keep
coming
back
to
you
and
let's
end
that,
if
we
don't
need
to
see
them
all
the
time,
the
last
couple
of
them
adoption
of
a
standard
policy
I
think
this
is
relatively.
This
is
something
that's
important.
It
was
brought
up
and
some
of
our
meetings
and
adoption
of
a
standard
policy
for
the
conversion
of
private
streets
and
utilities
to
public
streets
and
utilities.
This
is
not
saying
we
need
to
do
it.
L
This
is
saying
that
if
you're
going
to
be
doing
it,
someone
in
town
needs
to
figure
out
what
a
standard
policy
is
for
that,
and
let's
not
just
do
it
here
and
there,
depending
on
how
we
feel
that
day,
we
need
to
have
a
standard
policy
for
that.
The
other
point
is
aesthetic
and
access
control
should
be
placed
on
developments
along
major
arterials
and
collectors
outs,
and
that
can
be
as
general
or
specific
as
you'd
like,
but
that
lays
the
foundation
for
some
of
these
next
sections.
So.
A
You
Luke
before
you
move
on
those
bullets
that
you
had
there
regarding
the
sidewalk
plan
in
the
in
regards
to
the
development
road
projects
to
your
projects.
I'd
like
to
also
have
some
language
in
there
in
regards
to
our
city
parks
that
are
not
not
up
to
the
standards
in
regards
to
sidewalk
around
the
perimeter
that
when
we
are
engaging
in
adjacent
development
or
something
along
the
lines
of
encouraging
the
city
to
go
back
in
and
redevelop
the
the
trail
aspect
of
those
those
city-owned
parks
as
well.
L
A
L
L
L
There
are
a
lot
of
pages
and
a
lot
of
information
in
there.
Realistically,
let's
start
with
Lake
confessed
to
redevelopment
area,
the
that
one
we
held
specific
meetings
talking
about
a
handful
of
years
ago.
The
main
thing
that
comes
out
of
that
is
recommendation
to
have
its
own
zoning
district
I.
Don't
think,
there's
any
surprise
that
that's
going
to
come
out
as
a
recommendation,
at
least
that
needs
to
address,
and
maybe
they're
all
the
same,
who
knows,
but
land
uses
which
may
be
different
from
other
residential
districts,
appropriate
building
materials.
L
If,
if
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
handled
parking
and
outdoor
storage,
variability
on
setbacks,
probably
needs
to
consider
is
a
lot
coverage.
Florida
area
ratio
for
setbacks,
lake
side
versus
road
side,
how
we're
handling
that
sort
of
thing.
The
other
two
points
involve
our
capabilities
of
providing
services
on
a
line
that
basically
goes
and
I'm
going
to
apologize
is
it's
on
440
9th
Avenue
is
basically
we
had
conversation
and
points
out.
L
In
that
area
to
to
discourage
development
on
higher
densities,
unless
a
study
can
be
shown
that
indicates
that
we
do
have
enough
water
service
for
whatever
we're
handling
out
there,
so
they
may
have
to
do
more
more
study.
It's
not
shutting
the
door.
It's
just
saying
that
we
need
one
extra
step
in
in
developing
out
that
way.
N
L
L
From
a
stand
point
and
that's
where
that's
where
the,
if
we
have
two
or
three
Lots
to
open
up,
it's
probably
not
a
huge
deal.
If
we
have
someone
propose
a
apartment
complex
with
surrounding
surrounding
single-family,
houses
probably
need
to
have
a
study
as
far
as
what
we're
gonna
have
into
there
does.
L
L
L
G
Basically,
the
utility
department
instructed
us
years
ago
in
93,
and
nothing
has
changed
since
then
that
we
have
water
service
zones
and
because
of
the
lack
of
hydrostatic
pressure,
I
think
that's
the
right
term.
We
have
the
ability
from
a
water
pressure
to
get
water
into
those
areas
without
either
adding
another
water
tower
and.
L
The
statement
was,
we
have
increasing
ability,
as
we
get
farther
east
in
both
directions.
So
the
the
statement
at
the
time
was
that
is
really
not
a
ton
of
worry
in
this
area
here,
but
as
we
get
farther
away
just
understand,
we
need
to
be
more
and
more
cognizant
of
the
fact
that
needs
that
we
need
to
be
paying
attention
to
our
ability
to
serve,
and
that
study
may
include
asking
utilities:
hey,
do
you
have
enough
water
all
the
way
up
to?
We
need
to
do
a
full,
detailed,
hydrilla,
hydraulic
analysis
of
it.
E
N
L
L
Those
have
been
handled
since
then
in
terms
of
swap,
but
as
we
look
at
it
you're
right
the
service
areas
as
they
go
and
that
may
wind
up
having
to
be
a
consideration
as
we
look
at
and
we
talked
about
that
as
development
just
general
practices
that
we
are
going
to
have
to
work
with
rural
providers
as
well
and
see
if
that
needs
to
go
into
it.
Yeah.
E
I'm
not
trying
to
suggest
that
anything's
gonna
happen
because
I
don't
have
any
idea.
I
just
want
to
think
of
it.
You
think
of
that
fourth
Avenue
West
stuff,
where
there's
a
lot
of
houses
and
it's
foreseeable,
that
there
could
be
some
sort
of
attempted
development.
North
north
North,
Avenue
towards
the
lake
and
I,
just
wasn't
sure
how
that
fell
in
terms
of
even
the
whatever
whether
it
was
sewer
ever
whether
it
was
water
that
we
could
get
to
it
or
not.
If
it
was
City
or
would
be
City
yeah.
L
N
And
this
was
the
map
that
I
was
talking
like
talking
about
previously
about
referencing,
but
we
can
just
ref
you
reference
that
this
map
exists
and
then
I
mean
not
to
get
too
technical
about
that
comp
plan,
because
this
could
I
mean
this
is
up
continuously
changing
when
properties
are
annexed
in
Lima,
but
at
least
it
gives
you
guys
an
idea
that
this
does
exist.
So,
if
you're
ever
curious
or
if
there's
ever
an
annexation,
zoning
I
can
probably
make
this
part
of
my
presentation
to.
Let
you
make
you
guys
aware.
L
G
L
There
as
well,
the
McKinley
redevelopment
area
includes
the
McKinley
School
District
is
what
that
includes.
You
can
see.
I
really
just
used
the
colors
on
this
map
to
indicate
where
that
area
is,
but
the
very
first
bullet
and
pretty
much
all
of
these
points
out
that
we
have
unique
uses
that
need
to
be
zoned
differently.
N
We
do
we
did
just
replayed
all
of
the
way
Watertown
airport
first
subdivision,
so
all
of
the
land
that
is
under
the
airport's
jurisdiction
or
the
FAA
is
all
there.
It's
all
laid
out
now,
so
we
dedicated
additional
right-of-way
and
vacated
right
away,
because
previously
there
was
like
Golf,
Course
Road
was
actually
in
airport
property,
so
now
that's
all
delineated
and
then
any
what
are?
L
Their
irrigation
easements
as
far
as
certain
types
and
they're
also
there's
also
a
bowl
shape.
I
just
did
you
have
to
think
of
this.
Three
dimensionally
I've
spent
enough
time
talking
to
Todd,
sire
and
Eric
Dahl
and
my
time
to
try
and
understand
the
fact
that
it,
these
runway
protection
zones
on
a
map
they
show
up
kind
of
goofy,
but
they
basically
are
a
bowl
is
what
it
amounts
to
that
goes
out
in
an
angle
about
like
this.
L
So
even
though
you're
beside
the
runway
there's
still
a
runway
protection
zone
out
there,
though
it's
very
rare
for
someone
to
get
peak
up
into
that
problem
when
they're
off
to
the
side,
but
anyway,
bottom
line
is
to
be
able
to
review
that
some
cases.
It's
formal
some
cases.
It's
informal
just
make
sure
that
we're
paying
attention
to
that.
L
So
having
that
door
open,
if
you
do
have
find
some
unique
characteristics
within
there
to
have
that
ability
to
have
an
overlay
district.
That
would
allow
probably
more
of
a
lot
coverage
versus
a
setback
as
long
as
you're
meeting
minimum
fire
codes
and
those
sorts
of
things.
If
you
need
to
review
that
one
of
the
other
characteristics
that
we
see
in
those
areas,
especially
east
of
highway
20,
though
we're
vacating
some
of
that,
we
have
some
wide
rights
away
as
well,
and
so
those
are
some
things
to
keep
in
mind.
L
We
need
to
make
sure
we're
protecting
existing
industrial
uses
from
encroachment
of
incompatible
uses.
That's
one
of
the
things
that
sometimes
is
on
its
head,
but
people
don't
realize
we
need
to
protect
industrial
uses
just
as
much
as
we
need
to
protect
residential
uses
and
then
encourage
and
enhance
perimeter
landscaping,
particularly
on
the
edges
of
industrial
developments.
As
we
see
out,
there
say
on
collector
streets
and
industrial
arterial
just
to
draw
suck
the
edges
of
those
areas.
C
N
We
want
in
that,
in
those
cases
that
I
know,
we've
talked
before
about
having
limited
I
to
districts,
but
wouldn't
we
want
to
encourage
the
phasing
out
of
i2
and
make
it
more
conservative
to
keep
stair-stepping
it
down
to
and
then
have
other
areas
come
open
where
they're
more
appropriate
I
mean
this,
those
pre-existed
the
residential
development,
presumably,
but
that
is
kind
of
typical
for
cities
that
they
grow
around.
And
then
you
know
you
try
to
keep,
maybe
displacing
it.
And
would
we
encourage
that
he's.
N
Not
necessarily,
but
just
if
there
was
like,
if,
like
I
brought
up
before
I,
think
an
old
business
where,
if
like
I,
if
we
would
get
if
we
were
petition
to
rezone
to
i1
to
a
more
conservative
district,
that
would
bring
some
lots
into
conformity
and
would
bring,
and
it
would
make
the
district
more
restrictive.
Would
we
encourage
that
and
how
and
how
should
we
go
forward
in
directing
people
with
planning
for
their
developments
or
redevelopments?
For
that
matter,.
G
Got
I
to
uses
in
that
area
south
of
fourth
Avenue
I
mean
there
are
some
actual
I
to
uses
that
property
historically
was
owned
I
to
because
of
the
packing
plant
many
many
years
ago.
There's
a
lot
there's
vacant
areas
out
there
right
now
again,
I
think
I
will
just
reiterate
what
I
said.
I
think
before
we
go
out
and
we
decide
that
it
should
be
a
more
conservative
use.
I
think
we
need
some
input
from
the
economic
development
people
in
town
to
see
whether
or
not
we
I
will.
L
L
We
need
I
to
zoning
in
town,
I,
guess
in
and
what,
from
the
past
ten
years
in
here,
what
I've
heard
is
when
we
have
an
eye
to
use,
they
get
kicked
around
town
trying
to
find
a
place
to
go,
and
so,
generally
speaking,
that's
what
I
recall
from
some
of
those
meetings,
but
I
do
I
mean
I,
agree
with
Brandi
and
that
we
do
need
to
figure
out
a
way
to
transition
and
harsh
transition
from
one
to
the
next
is
difficult.
So
we
either.
C
L
A
G
C
G
N
N
G
G
But
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
we
don't
have
any
i2
zone
properties
in
the
city,
and
so
that's
that's
red
that
could
still
be
developed,
and
so
my
thinking
is
before
we
throw
the
the
i2
out.
Is
it
a
viable
site?
If
it's
not
a
viable
site,
then
let
the
people
that
are
you
know
trying
to
promote
economic
development
in
the
community.
Tell
us
that
I'm,
not
the
one.
That's
going
to
tell
you
whether
or
not
the.
L
The
replacement,
the
replacement
line
is
this
bottom,
it's
it's.
This
bottom
bullet,
that's
on
there
and
here
it
says,
encouraging
a
hands
perimeter
landscaping
screaming
screaming
screaming,
depending
on
what
meeting
you're
at
the
enhanced
perimeter
screening,
the
bottom
line
is
what
we're
talking
about
is
buffering
is
what
we're
talking
about.
N
G
Part
of
it,
but
also
if
I'm
looking
at
having
workforce
housing
I
want
that
workforce
housing
is
close
to
my
job
location
as
well,
so
I
think
there's
synergies
that
can
be
developed
there
by
having
multiple
family
dwelling
or
more
intensive
residential
development
near
areas
where
you
have
job
creation
and
that's
a
that's,
a
very
common
focus.
Some.
A
G
A
G
G
G
L
L
They
really
follow
the
spine
of
what
the
gateway
overlay
district
follows
as
far
as
signage
and
aesthetic
building
materials,
loading,
those
sorts
of
things
and
they
go
from
varying
degrees-
is
how
that's
handled
and
I
really
am
gonna
count
on
you
to
review
those
and
feel
see
whether
or
not
they
they
match
up.
Some
of
that
was
written
based
off
of
signed
codes
that,
frankly,
we're
not
using
anymore.
L
So
I'm
gonna
go
back
through
that
some
of
it
referenced
having
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
temporary
sign
under
the
temporary
sign
ordinance
that
we
didn't
have
before
so
there's
a
lot
of
it.
Referenced
I
am
up
to
the
building
and,
let's
just
leave
him
there.
Well,
that's
not
what
we
we
just
adopted
a
rule.
That
said,
that's
not
what
we
mean
that.
L
Secretary
was
yeah,
it
was,
and
I
can
tell
you
when
this
one
on
there
was
another
draft
of
a
temporary
sign
ordinance
in
which
that
was
what
the
plan
was,
and
so
that's,
where
that
all
came
from
and
so
yeah
that's
gonna,
get
itself
flushed
out
the
primary
components.
Here
you
can
see
the
three
different
colors
of
blue
on
there,
the
main
setup-
and
the
main
premise
of
this
is
that
we
can
identify
the
fact
that
they're
distinctly.
There
are
different
things
going
on
in
different
parts
of
this
stretch.
L
Here
southern
stretch
is
probably
more
the
truckstop
and
farmer
oriented
standpoint,
as
is
some
of
the
business.
That's
that's
more
toward
the
north
end
of
there
in
the
central
part
of
that
we've
got
a
little
more
community
commercial
standpoint.
That's
going
on.
We
may
have
the
ability
to
do
some
neighborhood
commercial
down
on
the
corner,
now
we're
tenth
and
in
highway.
20
are
but
basically
a
commercial
designated
student,
supportive
of
retail
and
rental
or
farm
and
industrial
equipment
or
Sur
services,
as
well
as
highway.
Oriented
retail
should
be
retained
in
this
area.
L
Basically,
a
type
of
type
of
development
that
exists
out
there.
We've
got
a
wide
variety,
we're
not
saying
to
get
rid
of
it
all
bottom
line.
Within
the
discussion
we
talk
about,
which
is
which
the
southern
egg
production
standpoint
is
likely
to
be
more
of
a
mixture
of
industrial
and
commercial
uses.
Frankly,
that's
what,
when
there's
a
highway
commercial
district,
a
lot
of
the
towns
that
I
work
in
that's
what
goes
on
in
a
highway
commercial
district,
what
you
see
at
highway,
20
and
212?
L
That's
a
highway
commercial
district
and
a
lot
of
the
talents
that
I
go
to
aside
from
the
fact:
there's
usually
an
implement
dealer
there
too.
So
that
give
you
an
idea
as
to
what
what
sort
of
thing
goes
on
there.
Yes,
the
elevator
some
usually
isn't
in
it,
but
it
sits
right
next
to
it.
So
they
kind
of
give
you
an
idea
of
what
that
would
be.
I.
L
L
C
L
N
L
L
G
N
L
L
No
I,
basically,
what
you
really
need
to
do
is
have
have
the
idea
have
the
option
to
have
what
amounts
to
you
may
need
to
have
some
overlay
districts
that
ultimately
that
ultimately
treat
the
area
near
Highland
different
than
the
area
near
McKinley,
particularly
the
areas
of
Roosevelt,
school
district
or
milette
school
district,
that
developed
in
the
1920s
and
are
in
the
floodplain.
We're
gonna
have
to
find
a
better
way
than
even
our
two-way,
which
was
a
great
fix.
L
We're
gonna
have
to
find
another
way
than
that
and
we're
really
doing
a
good
job
with
that
so
far,
but
I
think
that
we're
probably
gonna
have
to
find
even
more
to
that
I
want
to
get
to
this
here,
we're
at
six
o'clock.
Frankly,
I've
got
a
solid
half
an
hour
or
better
on
this.
What
I
would,
if
you
want
to
go
for
that
long,
I'm
happy
to
do
so.
Actually,
I'd
rather
not,
but
the
bottom
line
is.
We
can
I
think
what
probably
makes
more
sense
than
doing.
L
That
is
that
maybe
I
go
to
the
back
end
of
this.
Let's
flip
to
the
back
of
the
book
and
let's
look
at
the:
let's
look
at
the
maps,
the
future
land
use
maps
of
the
development
of
the
redevelopment
and
then
point
to
the
things
as
far
as
you
just
asked
about
what
are
you
talking
about
for
zoning
districts?
Luke
I
think
it's
important
that
we
do
look
at
that
now
and
then
we
can
double
back
with
our
much
time
you
want
to
spend
on
it.
So
I
am
going
to
go
to
these
maps.
L
Sorry
public
uses
public
uses
primarily
following
the
existing
public
uses,
not
a
lot
of
planned
new
out
there.
Even
the
windows
are
ready,
the
the
areas
that
have
some
hatch
in
them,
albeit
on
the
screen.
It
actually
shows
up
better
than
I
expected
here,
but
the
areas
that
have
some
hatch
on
there
you
can
see
at
the
top
with
the
key
we
have
commercial
residential.
Those
are
mixed
sorts
of
uses
that
we
anticipate
I'm,
not
saying
that
we
have
the
same
use
on
the
same
property.
L
It's
your
turn
to
figure
it
out
when
they
come
in.
This
is
really
our
transition
zone
is
what
it
amounts
to
either
of
these
things
probably
makes
sense.
What
we
need
to
be
able
to
be
cognizant
of
is
is
the
sort
of
thing
that
Brandi
was
bringing
up,
though,
is
that
we
don't
want
a
tooth
of
industrial
up
into
here
and
a
house
down
here
and
trying
to
work
around
hey.
You
know
if
we
just
stick
a
couple
of
trees
in
there
and
I'll
be
happy.
No,
that's
not
how
we
do
it.
We
got
it.
L
We
got
to
try
and
think
about
how
to
handle
that
the
next
slide
takes
that
to
another
level,
and
so
this
is
a
specific
land
use
map
and
I.
Don't
think
the
colors
are
actually
they
again.
They
show
up
pretty
well,
you
get
a
good
projector,
the
the
sorts
of
industrial.
You
can
see
a
dark
red
or
more
of
a
brownish
red
that
doesn't
show
up
as
well.
In
the
and
the
other
red
is
a
light.
Industrial
pink
shows
up
as
more
of
an
office
district
on
there.
L
The
best
example
of
that
is
in
the
northern
portion
here
of
of
81.
It's
a
good
example
there,
as
well
as
a
long
along
81
in
here
as
well,
there's
some
there's
black
and
gray,
which
is
shown
as
mixed
uses,
which
there's
a
little
more
detail
on
that
later:
low
density,
residential
there's,
a
lake
residential,
medium
density
residential,
which
may
mean
either
say
the
traditional
r2
district.
L
You
used
to
have,
or
just
a
higher
density,
single-family
residential
district,
similar
to
what
you
just
created
with
the
r1,
see
the
which,
by
the
way,
it's
handy
to
now
have
the
policy
that
allows
you
to
have
that
r1
C,
but
the
high
density,
high
density
residential.
That
could
be
again
a
high
density
single-family.
But
it's
likely
to
be
more
apartment,
sort
of
living,
manufactured
home
areas
identified
as
campus
and
civic
again,
both
of
those
depending
on
the
degree
how
you
want
to
handle
those
they
could
be
one.
L
In
the
same,
my
suggestion,
if
you're
asking
deep
dive,
is
that
you're
going
to
create
a
campus
district
before
a
civic
use
district
suggestions,
central
commercial
highway,
commercial,
regional,
commercial
and
neighborhood
commercial.
As
far
as
the
sorts
of
uses,
the
neighborhood
commercial
is
a
traditional,
that's
the
clustered
neighborhood
sort
of
commercial
that
we've
had
it's
going
to
be
at
your
intersections
of
collectors
and
collectors,
collectors
and
arterials.
That
sort
of
thing
that's
going
to
be
the
neighborhood
standpoint,
the
neighborhood
cluster,
the
regional
commercial,
is
your
shopping
malls.
L
That's
where
it
amounts
to
it's
a
sort
of
thing.
The
regional
commercial
is
a
sort
of
thing
that
you
expect
people
to
come
from
hate,
I,
Hamlin,
Brookings,
everywhere
to
come
and
shop
here.
The
neighborhood
commercial
is
a
sort
of
thing
that
you
expect
a
hand
when
you
expect
subdivisions
to
show
up
at
that's
the
difference.
The
highway
commercial
is
going
to
be
more
of
that
traditional
highway.
Traveler
sort
of
get
them
in
get
them
out
of
here
is
what
that
is.
There's
some
mixed
use.
This
gives
more
detail
on
what
those
mixed
uses
were.
L
L
Something
that
we
see
in
more
and
more
land
use
plans.
I
thought
was
very
important
in
this
particular
plan-
was
to
have
a
table
such
as
this,
where
we
reference
back
to
what
is
going
on
on
the
property.
So
you
can
see
in
this
table.
Low
density
corresponds
to
that
color
in
the
map.
It's
an
R
1
an
example
of
the
sorts
of
units
per
acre,
we're
having
sorts
of
land
uses
and
then
on
the
side
you
can
see
from
an
air
from
the
air.
That's
what
a
subdivision
that
that's!
What
a
subdivision!
L
That's
r1
looks
like
same
thing
with
your
with
your
lake
residential,
also
low
density.
You
can
see
from
the
air.
This
is.
This
is
the
unique
standpoint
that
we've
got
going
on
in
a
lake
residential
district.
We
don't
have
that
hate
to
say
it.
We
don't
have
body
of
water
coming
in
in
most
of
the
residential
district,
mostly
our
one
medium
density,
residential.
This
again
just
shows
you
I
mean
you
can
see
the
cluster
down.
You
know
where
this
is
I
mean
this
is
this:
is
the
heart
of
town
there's
what
amounts
to
probably
this?
L
Actually
I'll
clue
in
this
is
North
Central
right
around
tenth
high
density.
You
can
see
an
apartment
complex.
What
that
looks
like
what
it
corresponds
to
what
some
corresponding
zoning
districts
would
be.
Anything
with
an
risk
would
be
a
zoning
district
that
may
need
to
be
created
in
order
to
handle
it
the
r4
and
see
a
manufactured
home
court
office
district
here
are
some
pictures
of
what
an
office
district
it'd
look
like
one
is
one
is
what
we
have
offices
already
going
on
on
north
81.
C
L
L
Neighborhood
commercial
got
an
example
in
both
Watertown
on
the
bottom
and
a
town,
that's
to
the
south,
that
that
shows
again
it's
just
a
neighborhood
cluster
of
commercial
uses
into
there
things
that
you
would
expect
the
neighborhood
to
use,
but
you're
not
expecting
the
giant
steak
house
to
show
up
there.
It's
not
the
national
steak
house
location,
your
regional
commercial
is
one
that
would
be
a
new
zoning
district.
It
would
ultimately
take
up
a
lot
of
what
is
Zone
C
3
that
would
wind
up
carrying
a
lot
of
the
retail
services.
L
That
are
the
things
that
you
expect
where
you
want,
the
you
want
the
national
chain
to
come.
That's
probably
where
you
want
them
to
come
highway.
Commercial
is
what
I
said:
get
them
in
get
them
out
of
town
and
fly
through
central
commercial
is
you're,
not
uptown
area.
The
formerly
called
uptown,
but
some
examples
just
as
far
as
it
took
some
from
from
some
other
towns
just
to
show
that
you're
having
walkable
areas
as
what
amounts
to
Uptown
standard
uptown.
You
can
read
through
these
I'm,
really
not
going
to
go
much
farther.
G
L
Only
one
that
is
not
within
here
there
was
that
is
suggested
throughout
the
throughout
the
ordinance
is
one
that
goes
along
with
some
discussion
that
I
know
brandy
had
brought
up
here
actually
as
well,
which
is
in
it
it's.
It
would
help
us
out
in
some
of
that
in
its
zoning
district
that,
frankly,
we
got
rid
of
because
no
one
was
zoning
to
it
and
it's
the
old
I
won.
A
zoning
district
is
what
it
was,
which
was
a
combination
between
some
commercial
and
some
industrial
aspects.
L
The
best
example
of
that
that
I
see
is
what
we
have
south
of
Walmart,
where
we
have
very
well
designed
in
industrial
setup
back
there,
where
there's
a
lot
of
green
space
and
there's
you
know,
building
standards
are
nice.
A
lot
of
the
a
lot
of
the
work
is
being
done
inside.
That's
something
that's
not
listed
and
here's
a
suggestion,
but
it
may
be
something
we
want
to
look
at.
L
L
We
could
care
less
what's
going
on
inside
of
it,
that's
the
bottom
line
of
what
they've
looked
like
and
that's
where
some
of
these
come
on
with
the
campus
and,
frankly,
that's
a
little
bit
of
what
our
Business
Park
District
is,
and
so
that's
that's
where
some
of
that
comes
in
so
we've
already
dabbled
into
it.
I
think
that
we
can
probably
go
beyond
wading
into
this
sort
of
an
idea
now
I
will
I
will
happily
yield
the
floor.
N
Have
one
comment
with
as
far
as
the
mixed
uses,
I
think
that
we
should
look
into
that
and
that
should
be
a
priority
and
I
guess
with
the
beauty,
they're
pretty
cumbersome
and
but
basically
right
for
mixed
uses
right
now.
The
PG
PG
is
the
the
option
that
makes
sense
to
me.
It's
the
only
thing.
That's
really
available.
C
L
So
I
know
I
jumped
out
order
on
this,
but
I
really
think
that
that's
when,
when
we're
going
through
it
rather
than
leading
up
to
it,
I
was
gonna,
be
referring
to
this
throughout
anyway.
I
think
we're
better
off
to
look
at
this
I
think
if
you
spend
some
time
in
between
here
in
the
next
meeting,
it's
not
out
of
the
realm
of
possibility
that
we'll
get
through
the
future
future
development
as
well
outside
of
city
limits,
but
I
really
want
to
make
sure
I
mean
the
redevelopment
I
expected
it
was
gonna.
L
I'll
hold
them
for
the
next:
let's
do
it
there
yeah
anything
I
think,
let's
just
go
through.
We
talked
about
McKinley
and
we
talked
about
Lake
Camp
Eska.
Was
there
anything
else
in
those
areas
that
you
feel
like
that
I
glossed
over
in
that
amount
of
time,
if
not
I'll
reserve
it
we'll
wait
until
next
time
and
we'll
talk
more,
and
you
can
also
get
a
little
more
familiar
with
this
table
in
there
as
well
as
those
maps.
It's
all
good
sounds
good.
Okay,
thank.
A
N
You
had
provided
some
additional
information
and
then
I've
done
some
research,
not
as
much
as
I
would
like,
but
I
would
like
to
kind
of
have
almost
a
work
session
with
you
guys
to
see
if
you're
kind
of
on
the
same
page,
that
what
I'm
coming
up
with
so
basically
and
I,
show
I'm
showing
here
on
the
G
is
the
different
areas
that
are
zoned
are
to
a
and
caveat
with.
These
is
that
no
new
development
can
be
zoned.
If
somebody
came
in
with
a
new
subdivision,
they
cannot
use
our
to
a
so.
N
But
what
I
found
is
that,
typically,
these
neighborhoods
are
mostly
along
local
streets,
which
that
right-of-way
is
66
feet
and
a
lot
of
these
are
80
feet
and
which
is
what
a
collector
route
would
be
so
and
then
there's
also
some
100-foot
right-of-way,
which
is
what
arterioles
would
be
there's
three
that
are
100-foot
right-of-ways
and
then
like
27,
that
are
80
foot
and
then
or
no
12.
No,
that
is
right,
27
that
are
80
foot
and
then
12
that
are
local,
which
is
66
feet.
N
So
what
I
would
propose
would
be
that
if
it's
66,
so
if
the
properties
that
are
zoned
are
2a
are
adjacent
to
right
of
way.
That
is
66
feet,
which
is
a
local
street,
that
that
setback
would
remain
25
feet
or
we
would
reduce
it
to
20
feet
and
then,
and
now
the
25-foot
is
outlined
in
an
ordinance
because
of
the
clear
view
triangle
and
I.
Don't
know
if
you
found
it
in
21
6501
is
that
the.
A
A
N
A
From
the
property
corners
you
know
there
was
some
discussion
on
what
what
makes
the
most
sense
should
you
pull
it
from
the
curb
or
the
property
corners
in
the
Gateway
district?
We've
actually
got
it
in
there
as
from
the
curb.
Actually
it's
it's
in
there
two
different
ways
in
the
Gateway
district
one
says
the
curb
another
says
the
center
lines
of
the
roads
at
the
intersection.
A
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
to
develop
a
clear
view
triangle
section
of
the
chapter
and
reference
it
in
every
place
that
it
needs
to
be
referenced
and
have
one
set
of
standards
for
the
clear
view
triangle
I
think
it
makes
most
sense
honestly
to
pull
it
from
the
curb.
It's
I
mean
it's
clear
and
easy
to
understand,
going
off
the
curb,
and
if
we
get
some
visual
drawings
in
there,
I
sent
you
some
examples
that
I
I.
A
It
was
kind
of
an
excuse
for
me
to
use
AutoCAD,
because
I
don't
get
much
opportunity
to
do
that
anymore.
But
I,
don't
know
idea.
It
makes
sense
to
me
to
go
off
the
curve
versus
property
line.
Nobody
knows
where
the
property
line
is
most
of
the
time
and
then
in
instances
like
this
with
the
you
know,
with
the
differences
in
in
right-of-way,
I
mean,
if
we're
going
by
the
curb
cut,
it's
consistent
all
the
way
through
right.
N
Right
but
then
also
just
to
expand
off
of
that.
So
if
it's
adjacent
just
because
66
feet
is
our
minute,
that's
our
standard
local
street
right-of-way.
So
if
it
is,
if
they
are
adjacent
to
that,
then
to
potentially
leave
it
at
25
just
to
have
some
consistency.
Although
a
lot
of
these
properties,
they
already
don't
meet
that
setback,
correct.
A
N
And
that's
why
potentially
going
to
20
on
those,
but
then
the
properties
that
are
adjacent
to
80
feet
of
right-of-way,
that
they
would
be
lessen
to
18
feet
and
what
I
did
there
is
I
just
subtracted
the
66
feet
from
the
80
and
then
divided
it
by
2
for
both
sides
of
the
road
which
would
lessen
it
down
from
25
to
18.
So.
A
N
F
C
A
F
A
G
I
Are
we
gonna
run
into
I
remember
before
we
gave
a
variance
on
a
garage,
and
this
was
my
first
time
around,
so
you
would
have
been
there
Blake.
It
was
up
northwest
part
of
town
and
that
garage
was
going
to
be
because
the
because
of
the
boulevards
all
being
kind
of
different
up
in
different
sections
of
town,
that
that
structure
was
going
to
be
only
six
feet
from
the
sidewalk.
I
Do
you
remember
that
I've
ever
a
fee
I
mean
it
wasn't
very
far
and
I
can't
give
you
an
address
and
I
can't
give
you
a
date
but
I
just?
Are
we
going
to
run
into
that
all
of
a
sudden
being
not?
We
got
our
Clearview
triangle,
but
now,
all
of
a
sudden
we're
really
close
to
a
sidewalk
know
what
I'm
saying
know
where
I'm
going
with
this
I
think.
C
G
A
A
N
It
is
so
then,
to
finish
the
hundred
foot
of
right
away.
Then
what
would
be
for
an
arterial
to
take
that
and
take
what
a
14
foot
Boulevard
would
be,
or
a
38
foot
pain
throat
that
that
setback
would
then
just
be
8
feet
in
relation
to
if
it
was
adjacent
to
a
local
street,
because
you're
still
because
you're
having
it's
almost
like
it's.
So
if
you
were
going
so
here's
Broadway
and
if
you
are
going
from
the
edge
of
the
the
back
of
the
curb
and
you're
going
14
feet.
N
N
But
the
property,
the
property
line-
is
still
7
feet
from
that
point.
So
you're
still
getting
a
pretty
large
set
back
from
the
street.
So
then,
if
we
would
even
put
it
down
to
5,
then
you're
you
have
5
a
5
foot
setback
but
you're
still
technically
30
feet
away
from
the
street
or
26
feet
away
from
the
street,
so
you're
getting
a
25
foot
setback.
A
F
M
F
A
I
N
I
I
N
C
A
The
conversation
came
up
that,
if
you
put
your
setbacks
too
small,
then
you
could
potentially
place
the
building
within
what
we
have
defined
as
the
clear
view
triangle,
and
so,
when
you're
looking
at
it
you're
looking
at
both,
you
don't
want
to
write
the
ordinance
on
the
setback
so
that
it
could
potentially
be
put
into
it.
I
mean
clearly
you'd
have
to
comply
with
both,
but
we
want
to
be.
We
want
to
make
it
simple
right,
but.
N
C
A
C
N
A
Just
yeah
I'd
like
to
see
the
overlay
of
the
buildable
area
on
top
of
it
and
what
person
you
know
what
percentage
is
a
lot,
then,
is
a
buildable
area,
because
that
was
really
what
triggered
this
whole
thing
for
me
is
that
many
of
these
Lots
had
like
a
17%
limit
on
buildable
area.
Well,
I
mean
that's
an
unrealistic,
realistic
expectation,
especially
if
we're
talking
redevelopment
I
mean
if
we
want
people
to
redevelopment
redevelop
and
you
can
only
build
on
17%.
G
N
N
I
N
I
A
C
N
G
C
N
I
N
If
you,
if
the
house
exists,
pre-existing
that
we
would
still
have
that
inline
provision
where
they
would
have
to
adhere
to
that
I
mean
just
I
mean
we
don't
want
to
disturb
established
neighborhoods
either,
but
as
far
as
like
the
corner,
a
lot
then
beans
that
they
only
have
a
neighbor
on
the
one
side
they
might
be
able
to
either
their
neighbor
does
have
a
less
a
lesser
setback
than
25
feet.
So
they
can
be
in
line
with
that,
but
then
adjacent
to
the
street.
N
F
A
A
N
This
is
this
13th
Street
is
an
80-foot
right-of-way.
The
step-back
would
be
15
feet
because
of
that
collector
right-of-way,
and
then
it
would
stay
in
line
but
say
that
this
was
to
be
ripped
down.
They
would
have
to
adhere
to
25
foot
front
yard
setbacks
on
both
sides,
which
the
front
already
is,
but
they
would
have
to
anyway
because
of
the
in
line
provision.
So
that
would
be
on
this
black.
It
would
run
here
and.
F
F
N
G
C
N
N
G
G
N
G
G
A
G
N
A
N
G
N
N
That's
what
this
is
trying
to
solve,
so
that's
why
and
to
when
I
started,
looking
at
it
to
try
to
distinguish
between
the
different
properties
and
the
corner,
Lots,
that's
what
made
most
census.
Is
that
you're
not
necessarily
encroaching
on
the
Clearview
triangle
at
all
as
long
because
the
right
of
ways
are
are
way
larger
than
they
would
be
if
they
were
a
local
street,
where
these
residential
neighborhoods
would
be
the.
N
A
N
Like
I,
like
I,
have
a
table
here
that
says:
if
the
right-of-way
is
66
feet,
the
setback
is
now.
This
is
open,
it
can
be
25
or
20.
I
think
that
we
should
keep
it
consistent
with
what
we
do
with
other
local
streets
adjacent
just
to
have
some
consistency
to
say,
25.
If
you're
adjacent
to
a
66
foot
right-of-way,
which
is
minimum
and
then
if
it's
80
feet,
we
would
allow
15
feet
and
if
it's
adjacent
to
a
hundred
feet,
we
would
allow
five.