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From YouTube: City Budget Meeting 08 14 2018
Description
This City Council meeting is for the presentation, review and public input on the Mayor's Proposed 2020 City Budget. Meeting time is 4:00 PM.
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C
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A
We
do
not
have
a
quorum
so
we'll
go
through,
and
if
the
council
wants
to
make
recommendations,
they
can
do
so,
but
we
won't
be
taking
any
formal
action
unless
we
get
a
quorum
after
a
little
while.
So
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
a
public
comment
period
and
if
anyone
is
here
would
like
to
speak
about
something
not
on
the
agenda
now
is
the
time
see
none
we'll
move
on.
The
second
item
on
the
agenda
is
approval
of
the
agenda
and
well
we
can't
take
action
so
we'll
just
move
on.
A
The
third
item
on
the
agenda
is
presentation,
review
and
public
input
on
the
mayor's
proposed.
2019
city
budget
proposed
budget
book
available
for
review
at
City
Council
office
in
City
Hall
and
before
we
get
started.
I
would
like
to
just
say
what
I've
told
the
department
heads
is
that
we
have
a
pretty
serious
shortfall
between
what
was
requested
and
our
projected
revenue
from
the
general
fund
and
so
I've
made
some
pretty
severe
cuts
and
the
cost
of
maintaining
the
status
quo
is
just
greater
than
our
revenue
projections.
A
That's
not
a
comfortable
spot
to
be
in
and
I
will
add,
though.
I
am
optimistic
about
the
future
potential
for
sales,
tax
revenue
and
sales
tax
revenue
is
up
about
4%
by
our
projections.
So
that's
good,
but
we
had
about
three
million
dollars
requested
above
what
we
have
projected
for
revenue,
so
I
cut
greatly
across
the
board
and
I
did
not
achieve
expenditures
to
equal
revenues,
there's
still
a
shortfall
in
the
proposed
budget,
and
this
is
not
unlike
previous
years,
where
we've
done
the
same
and
we've
come
out.
A
Okay,
because
revenues
are
generally
higher
than
our
projections
and
expenses
are
generally
lower
than
what
we
budgeted
so
we're.
Probably
okay,
there's
a
about
1.2
million
dollar
difference
between
the
the
expenditure
budget
in
the
general
fund
is
higher
than
the
anticipated
revenue.
But
if
trends
follow
like
they
always
have
in
the
past,
we
will
probably
be
okay.
A
That
being
said,
I
did
make
drastic
cuts
in
virtually
all
capital
outlay,
and
so
some
of
those
things
I
mean
I,
kept
cutting
a
little
bit
here
and
a
little
bit
there
and
I
was
not
getting
anywhere
near
where
I
needed
to
be
I
mean
a
three
million
dollar
gap
is
just
not
comfortable
and
I.
Don't
think
that
we
would
be
safe
in
leaving
that
in
the
budget,
so
I
can
cut
it
down
to
where
I'm,
comfortable
and
I
am
confident
that
we'll
be
okay
and
I
do
think
there.
A
D
Just
want
to
say
a
couple
things
too
to
the
group
here:
I'm
poor,
we're
coming
from
mayor
I
think
we
need
to.
We
need
to
wave
a
yellow
flag,
but
by
the
same
token,
it's
not
a
red
flag.
We
are,
we
are
stable,
I'd
even
say
strong,
I,
think
a
lot
of
cities
would
envy
the
position
that
we
are
financially.
A
You
thank
you
for
adding
that.
That's
absolutely
true,
I
I!
Don't
want
anyone
to
think
that,
because
I've
made
dramatic
cuts
from
the
proposed
budget
that
were
in
a
dire
straight
situation,
we
are
not
we're
we're
fine.
It's
just
that
our
projected
expenditures
from
requests
was
quite
a
bit
higher,
actually
several
million
higher
even
than
our
budget
last
year,
and
we
don't
grow
by
several
million
dollars
a
year.
We
grow
slowly.
A
couple
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
is
typical
growth
in
our
general
fund
and
we
far
exceeded
that
with
our
request.
B
Thank
You
mayor
I
just
wanted
to
start
out
by
saying
thank
you
to
the
mayor
and
also
all
the
departments
for
all
your
hard
work.
I
know
the
budget
process
is
very
long
and
it's
very
time-consuming,
but
it's
also
very
important
to
the
city
and
I
did
want
to
follow
with
what
the
mayor
said
that
asks
this
year
they
did,
they
came
in,
they
came
in
high,
it
was
about
12%
higher
than
our
budget
last
year.
B
So
when
you
look
through
the
budget
book,
if
you
look
on
page
8,
it
kind
of
gives
an
idea
of
what
the
mayor
had
to
go
through
and
the
12%
I
speak
of
is,
if
you
look
at
the
2018
budget
compared
to
the
request
in
nineteen,
that's
the
12%
and
then
with
the
mayor's
proposed
budget
at
17.5.
It's
still
about
a
2.6
percent
increase
over
expenditures,
the
budget
and
going
back
and
looking
kind
of
2013
through
2017,
which
those
are
our
actual
numbers
where
we
can
see
our
growth.
B
Our
revenues
only
grow
between
about
one
to
two
percent.
So
when
we
budget,
we
don't
want
to
budget
our
expenditures
that
much
higher
than
what
we're
really
seeing
in
our
growth
city
of
our
time
has
always
been
a
conservative
budget
and
I.
Think
we
want
to
maintain
that
so
I
think
it
does.
Look
like
a
lot
was
cut,
but
I
think
this
is
keeping
us
right
in
line
with
how
we've
always
budgeted
the
one
thing
that
I
think
we're
going
to
try
to
focus
on
is
with
our
conservative
budgeting
on
our
revenues.
B
B
Basically,
our
goal
is
to
get
the
gap
between
our
budget
and
our
actuals
a
little
bit
closer
and
as
we
continue
to
get
that
closer
I
think
we'll
start
to
be
able
to
then
really
look
at
what
our
expenditures
can
be,
but
we
do
have
kind
of
a
significant
gap
because
of
our
conservative,
budgeting
and
I.
Think
with
time
when
we
get
that
closer
to
our
actuals,
then
we'll
be
able
to
see
our
expenditures
go
up
as
well.
In
regards
to
the
meeting
I
think
we'll
have
each
department
come
up
and
speak
to
their
budget.
B
I
do
want
to
change
a
few
things
just
for
time.
I
know
that
the
budget
hearings
can
be
very
long,
I'm
requesting
that
when
the
departments
come
up
that
we're
not
going
to
focus
so
much
on
the
goals,
accomplishments
and
performance
measures,
the
council
in
the
public
has
had
the
opportunity
to
look
through
the
book
and
if
the
council
has
any
questions
regarding,
it
feel
free
to
ask.
But
I
think
for
sake,
will
kind
of
skip
over
that,
and
we
will
go
straight
into
the
budget.
B
A
D
Tonight
I
asked
you
this
morning:
if
you
could
I
think
it'd
be
helpful
for
us,
as
well
as
those
that
might
be
watching
we
just
run
through
I
mean
we.
We
generate
the
bulk
of
our
income
from
our
sales
tax,
but-
and
we
have
you-
know
three
different:
three
different
percentages
of
sales
tax.
You
just
give
us
a
real,
quick,
30,000
foot
overview.
What
those
three
pennies
are
are
allowed
to
be
used
for
relative
to
financing
our
city
government,
okay,.
B
So
we
do,
we
have
three
different
taxes.
Everybody
is
very
aware
of
our
2%
tax
and
how
that
is
is
1%
goes
to
the
general
fund.
The
second
penny,
as
we
call
it,
goes
to
the
fund
to
12.
That's
our
capital
improvement
fund.
The
first
penny
of
sales
tax
is
used
for
the
general
fund,
which
is
basically
how
I
look
at
it
is
it's
kind
of
what
runs
the
the
majority
of
our
general
government
departments.
Are
public
safety,
our
streets
items
like
that?
B
So
that's
what
that
text
is
set
aside
for
now
the
capital
improvement
fund.
Second,
penny
tax
has
some
restrictions
on
it
that
was
passed
by
an
ordinance
and
the
only
things
that
can
be
spent
out
of
the
second
penny.
Sales
tax
are
purchasing
of
a
fire
truck
and
ambulance,
as
well
as
anything
considered
capital
improvements.
It's
also
set
aside
that
it
can
contribute
to
the
e-911
fund
and
you
will
see
that
that
transfer
goes
out
of
212
and
into
fun
to
14,
which
is
the
e-911
fund.
B
As
far
as
the
next
part
of
the
sales
tax
is
what
we
called
the
BBB
tax.
That's
your
tax
that
you're
going
to
pay
when
you
go
to
the
restaurant,
to
the
bar
to
the
hotel
and
that
tax
is
put
into
the
separate
fund
that
money
is
set
aside
and
can
only
be
used
to
basically
fund
any
type
of
our
recreation
programs.
B
F
F
B
Haven't
actually
put
those
numbers,
together
with
the
wages
there
they're
tied
to
the
union
contracts
and
the
last
three
years
of
the
contract,
how
it's
been
spelled
out
is
that
there
will
always
be
a
two
percent
increase,
so
I
can
only
speak
to
the
last
I
suppose
18,
17
and
16,
so
no
matter
what
the
wages
were
going
up.
Two
percent
now,
if
the
sales
tax
came
in
over
three
percent
in
the
contract,
then
it
stated
that
it
would
be
a
two
step
increase
that
would
equate
to
a
four
percent
increase
of
wages.
B
Okay,
if
you
actually
turn
to
page
sorry
5,
that
gives
us
the
most
significant
breakdown,
that
is
the
object
of
expenditures,
and
that
does
break
it
down
by
our
personal
services.
The
other
expenditures
is
your
operating
and
the
capital
outlay
are
the
capital
request
from
the
department,
so
you
can
see
in
the
general
fund.
It's
2.7
million
is
what
we
spend
on
our
personnel,
and
then
we
have
6.3,
basically
in
our
operate
now.
I
do
want
to
point
out
too.
That
has
the
two
million
dollar
transfer
out.
A
A
F
G
F
A
D
H
B
I
The
increase
in
resource
material
last
year's
budget
was
basically
exactly
the
the
amount
that
we
pay
for
Westlaw,
which
is
the
research
service
that
we
that
I
use
and
I
added
an
additional
amount
there
to
account
for
some
possible
additional
resource
materials
that
may
need,
and
the
increase
in
travel
expense
personnel
was
as
a
result
of
the
I
joined.
Stanton
Fox
was
a
member
of
what's
called
the
International
municipal
Lawyers
Association
I
rejoined
that
organization
and
they
do
have
to
conferences
every
year,
and
so
that's
to
account
for
those
those
expenses.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Mir,
the
finance
department
does
look
a
little
high
and
I
have
a
couple
of
things
that
I
wanted
to
go
over.
The
biggest
one
is
under
the
consultant
services
in
that
is
a
$50,000
budget.
We
have
not
had
a
wage
study
since
2001
and
we've
had
lots
of
discussion
on
it.
This
would
be
where
they
would
go
in
and
they
would
evaluate
all
of
the
job
descriptions
they
look
at
our
job
classifications,
where
we
have
with
our
grading
and
stuff.
B
So
this
would
actually
be
a
company
that
comes
in
and
does
that
for
us,
so
that
is
the
$50,000
budget.
For
that
the
other
reason
the
finance
office
budget
you'll,
see
it
go
up
and
down
and
a
lot
of
times
that
is
due
to
the
elections.
The
finance
office
runs
the
elections
so
in
that
is
$17,000
that
covers
the
election
supplies
and
the
judges.
It
also
increases
the
payroll
a
little,
because
we
do
have
a
couple
of
people
for
absentee
voting
that
are
here
pretty
much
for
two
weeks.
B
The
other
thing
that
I
did
want
to
talk
about
it
doesn't
just
affect
the
finance
budget,
actually
affects
all
departments
budget.
During
the
personnel
policy
committee
meetings,
it
was
determined
by
the
group
that
we
wanted
to
look
at
offering
a
EAP
and
I
might
ask
Matt
to
kind
of
help
me
out.
He
was
kind
of
or
Audra
Audra
might
have
to
step
up
and
help,
but
the
group
did
want
to
do
an
EAP
service
and
that's
a
service
it.
B
We
budgeted
about
$8,000,
it's
spread
out
among
all
the
departments
based
on
the
number
of
employees
and
it's
a
service
that
would
provide
kind
of
outside
help.
I
don't
know
if
I
want
to
just
say
counseling,
but
any
type
of
thing
that
is
affecting
one
of
our
employees
lives
outside
of
work,
but
yet
it's
affecting
their
work.
It
allows
for
I
think
three
sessions
that
an
employee
can
go
to
and
it
can
be
anything
relating
to
divorce
or
just
even
a
manager.
That's
maybe
having
a
stressful
situation
with
an
employee.
B
D
D
F
I
That
that's
certainly
an
option.
One
thing
we
could
do
is
what's
called
a
wage
reopener
where
we
would
enter
into
a
new
three-year
contracts
with
all
the
unions,
but
we
would
have
a
reopening
of
negotiations
just
on
just
wages
next
year,
if
the
council
were
to
choose
to
adopt
any
of
the
findings
of
the
study.
But
another
option
is
to
wait
three
years
and
do
it
then
it's
that
be
up
to
you.
Yeah.
F
D
A
E
G
A
A
J
Hi
I
just
want
to
say
that
our
part
of
the
issue
is
our
wage
classification
grading
system.
We
are
don't.
We
have
nine
classification
grades.
We
are
terribly
compressed
based
on
the
variety
of
job
families
that
we
have
in
the
city
and
the
depth
and
skills
of
knowledge
that
we
have
in
the
variety
nine
classification
grades
does
not
correctly
compensate
individuals,
it
gets
way
too
compressed,
and
then
you
have
the
the
unemployment
rate
as
low
as
it
is,
plays
a
factor.
So
you
have
people,
it
ends
up
being
just
too
tight.
J
B
I
do
think
I
mean
if
it
was
put
in
there,
because
we,
like
I,
said
it
has
not
been
done
since
2001.
It
also
is
a
longer
process
to
do
it
and
I
understand
the
point
of
if
we're
not
going
to
have
a
new
contract
until
later.
Do
we
do
it
now?
I
do
see
the
benefit
of
of
doing
it
and
19
with
the
thought
of.
B
C
A
We've
been
kind
of
delaying
some
of
the
performance
or
the
PA,
see.
What's
that
Sam
for
performance
anyway,
classification
of
employees,
revisiting
that
I've
been
kind
of
hoping
that
the
study
would
take
care
of
there's
a
backlog
of
those
that
need
to
be
done.
Positions
have
changed
dramatically,
I
t's,
a
good
example.
We
didn't
have
IT
15
years
ago,
Roley.
So
yes,
well
order.
A
But
this
year
we
don't
and
the
the
Watertown
Development
Company
$100,000
that
was
Terrance
yeah.
That's
for
the
economic
development
for
our
largest
employer
to
assist
them
in
making
their
big
expansion
on
the
east
side
of
town,
which
will
be
a
great
benefit
to
our
community.
So
are
there
I
I
guess
there
was
a
one
request
which
I
did
not
add
money
to
and
it's
the
Watertown
initiative
to
prevent
sex
trafficking,
not
because
I
don't
support
that,
but
because
I
think
that
we
already
do
support
that
greatly.
F
F
I
F
How
is
it
that
independent
of
the
fact
that
our
rec
center
was
there
before
with
them?
How
is
it
that
the
two
hundred
and
some
thousand,
that
we've
given
historically
to
them,
which
is
an
uncontrolled
contribution
right?
We
don't,
we
just
give
it
to
them,
they
spend
it
for
their
operational
needs.
How
did
that
qualify
historically,.
F
Then
why
wouldn't
that
same
thing,
because
the
use
is
the
same
but
the
same
money
we're
giving
them
now
is
gonna
be
spent
in
the
same
manner.
It
has
been
for
thirty
four
years.
How
is
it
differed
that
necessitates
it
going
under
contributions
to
external
organizations
versus
coming
out
of
the
BBB
like
it
was
that's
how
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
was
determined
to
be
funded
a
lot
of
years
ago.
I
Well,
I
guess:
I'll
start
by
saying
it's
a
bit
of
a
gray
area
in
the
statute.
I
would
say
that
the
original
intent
of
this
statue
was
not
to
fund
an
external
organization
and
regardless
of
what
they
did,
but
it's
been
interpreted
by
the
Attorney
General
over
the
years
to
be
I,
guess
more
expansive,
probably
than
it
was
originally
intended,
and
so
I
could
probably
still
remain
under
the
BBB.
You
could
probably
get
there,
but
I
would
say
that
it's
a
with
us.
I
You
know
why
it
was
not
why
it's
been
done
that
way
for,
for
so
many
years,
I
don't
know
it's
I've
asked
Kristen.
If
she'd
talked
to
our
legislative
audit
about
it,
it
sounds
like
they've
never
said
anything
about
it.
So
it's
you
know
I
probably
could
stay
there.
It
seems
to
me
that
it's
probably
more.
I
F
This
has
never
been
an
issue
of
transparency,
it's
always
in
our
budget.
It's
a
matter
of
what
our
forefathers
planned
and
agreed
to
spend
some
of
those
dollars
on
and
got
us
into
a
long-term
agreement
that
we
find
ourselves
not
knowing
where
we
sit
with
that
correct,
correct
and
so
I
sit
there
and
I.
Look
at
that
and
I
go
if
it
hasn't
been,
certainly
are
the
audits
of
our
books.
F
If
that
hasn't
been
challenged
over
all
these
years,
that
it
must
be
okay,
I
would
assume
that
they
say
it's
okay,
because
the
use
is
exactly
the
same.
Nothing
has
changed
from
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
standpoint.
You
know
I'm
not
talking
about
what
we
do
with
the
agreement.
I'm
not
talking
about
the
funding
dollars,
I'm
talking
about
where
those
funds
come
from.
They
have
historically
come
from
the
BBB.
F
My
thoughts
are
to
take
them
out
of
the
BBB
and
put
them
into
the
general
fund,
especially
at
a
time
when
we're
challenged
with
revenues
and
expenses.
I
think
that's
inappropriate,
I
think
it's
unnecessary,
probably
a
better
word
and
it's
still
transparent.
We
still
have
discussions
about
what
we
give
to
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
and
what
we
do
with
that,
as
we
always
have.
F
So
this
really
isn't
a
try
anything
in
regard
to
sliding
it
on
the
table.
This
is
just
a
matter
of
where
was
it
planned
to
be
funded
historically,
where
has
it
been
funded?
Historically
and
what's
the
cess
stating
the
change,
and
if
we
can't
answer
those
things
and
I
question,
why
we're
moving
that
over
and
taken
away
some
of
the
needs
that
we
have
out
of
our
general
fund,
which
is
very
limited?
Well.
I
I
will
just
I'm
not
sure
if
you
thought
that
this
was
a
push
by
me,
but
I'm
not
I
owe
did
not
advise.
This
was
necessitated.
I
was
asked
if
it
was
where
it
should
be
so
I
think
honestly,
it
probably
could
fall
under
both
I
think
the
BBB
you
could
probably
get
by
with
it.
It
is
a
very
loosely
interpreted
statute,
and
so
but
I'm,
not
the
one
that
advocated
switching
it.
So
no.
I
G
F
I
B
Think
the
reason
for
the
move
is
you'll
also
see
another
change
in
the
BBB
and
it's
kind
of
a
change
of
just
perception
and
doing
things,
not
necessarily
that
the
way
it
was
done
is
wrong
and
not
maybe
necessary
that
the
way
we're
viewing
it
and
when
I
say
that
the
mayor
and
I
are
viewing.
It
is
right,
but
what
we
did
is
we
moved
the
contribution
to
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
to
the
external
organizations,
but
on
the
flip
side,
what
we
did
do
is
we
had.
B
The
BBB
fund
now
increase
its
contribution
to
our
own
Park
and
Rec.
If
you
look
at
the
Park
and
recs
revenue
hang
on,
let
me
get
to
it.
If
you
looked
on
page
13,
you
would
see
in
the
past
that
the
BBB
fund
has
only
gave
the
park
and
Rec
fund
$50,000
and
we
increased
that
to
$400,000
and,
as
I
stated
I,
don't
think
what
happened
in
the
past
was
incorrect
or
the
wrong
way
to
do.
It
I
think
it's
a
change
of
what
we
kind
of
wanted
it
to
do.
B
A
That's
exactly
right
and
I
mean
I
know
you
can
you
can
do
it
lots
of
different
ways
to
me,
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
is
an
external
organization,
and
the
BBB
fund
is
primarily
meant
to
help
the
Park
and
Rec,
which
needs
help.
We've
spent
a
lot
of
money,
building
new
facilities
for
Park
and
Rec,
and
that
BBB
fund
should
be
offsetting.
The
increases
in
costs
in
the
park
and
Rec
Department
and
I
felt
that
was
really
important.
Yeah.
I
C
Comment
is:
there's
interpretation,
there's
gray
area,
as
you
pointed
out,
I'm
in
favor
of
it,
this
being
under
external
organizations,
because
it
is
a
not-for-profit
I
think
the
great
area
in
the
past
was
it
was
attached
in
shared
space
with
the
recreation
facility,
so
I'm
guessing
I'm
speculating
I.
Wasn't
there
that's
how
they
were
able
to
do
it
with
a
straight
face
for
lack
of
a
better
phrase?
Okay,
I
couldn't
do
this
with
a
straight
face.
This
is
a
valuable
organization
in
our
community.
It's
a
not-for-profit
I've,
always
struggled
since
I've,
been
in
the
council.
C
Why
we
give
tax
dollars
to
not-for-profits.
We
don't
tax
people
to
give
money
to
charities.
Now
we
have
made
a
decision
and
I
voted
in
favor
of
doing
that
in
cases
to
assist
organizations.
But
in
this
particular
case
this
is
a
not-for-profit.
It's
an
external
organization.
I
think
that
at
this
point,
if
we
try
to
put
this
under
the
BB
and
B
I,
think
that's
really
a
stretch
when
I
look
at
something
we're
stretching
that
far
right,
I
think
we're
stretching
too
far.
C
A
D
A
D
D
A
F
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
what
Don
said
and
we've
had
this
discussion.
Every
budget
I
think
since
I've
been
on
the
council
and
that's
the
the
logic
of
giving
to
these
external
organizations,
and
here
we
are
having
that
same
conversation
and
I,
agree
with
Don
that
unless
they
are
a
quasi
service
to
the
city
of
our
town,
which
we
do
have,
for
example,
that
if
we
didn't
have
some
of
these
we'd
have
to
provide
some
of
these
services.
You
know,
for
example,
the
dive
and
rescue,
for
example.
They
provide
a
big
service.
F
They
assist
a
lot
of
things,
there's
others,
but
those
that
don't
provide
some
type
of
service
back
to
the
city
that
in
essence,
we
would
have
to
have
to
provide.
We
got
to
ask
ourselves
why
we
are
doing
that
because
there's
a
hundred
other
nonprofits
out
there
that
could
be
asking.
How
do
you
give
to
one
and
not
others
and
I'm,
not
so
sure
that
what
we
shouldn't
be
doing
is
we
shouldn't
be
giving
fair
warning
that
we're
gonna
phase
them
out
over
a
three-year
period
or
four
year
period
and
make
a
decision?
F
We've
got
up
I,
don't
want
to
have
this
discussion
next
year
and
have
the
same
discussion
again.
I
think
we
have
to
decide
what
makes
sense
and
move
on
in
it,
and
they
said
this
is
my
seventh
budget
or
eighth
budget,
whichever
one
it
is,
we
had
the
discussion
every
time.
I
just
think
we
need
to
make
that
decision
and
and
then
we
got
to
give
fair
warning
if
that
means
that
we're
going
to
reduce
sure.
A
And
I
can
tell
you
and
I've
spoken
with
other
mayor's.
This
is
a
common
issue
that
community
face,
because
many
of
them
do
contribute
to
external
organizations
and
what
one
person
sees
as
a
need
that
the
city
should
be
function
would
be
providing.
If
the
organization
didn't
exist,
someone
else
might
not
see
the
need
for
that,
and
so
it's
you
know.
Why
do
we
fund
parking
rack?
A
A
It
isn't
essential
function
like
Public,
Works
or
Public
Safety.
It
just
isn't
and
I
would
argue
vehemently
that
it's
absolutely
critical
to
our
community's
well-being,
and
so
it
belongs
there
and
I
could
see
that
argument
for
every
one
of
those.
I
sat
through
those
interviews
and
there
are
all
very
important
organizations.
Are
there
other
organizations
that
don't
get
contributions?
Yes,
I
hope
they
don't
come
and
ask
for
money,
but
the
pot
is
shrinking
as
time
goes
on
and
the
money
doesn't
grow
to
them.
That's
a
shrinking
with
inflation.
A
E
We
we
have
chosen
to
to
pick
some
organizations
that
that
don't
supplement
or
don't
subsidize
our
efforts
in
other
departments
in
the
community.
We've
had
this
several
times
that
talked
and
I
guess
I
thought
we
had
evolved
into
a
different
position
there,
but
it
doesn't
appear
that
it's
it's
changed
a
lot
and
again
you
could
have.
You
could
have
a
hundred
more
organizations
come
to
us
and
ask
for
these
funds
that
arguably
you
could
somehow
or
another
interpret
that
they
would
subsidize
or
supplement
what
we
do
and.
A
In
some
way
to
the
quality
of
life
of
our
community-
and
some
of
them
are
absolutely
critical
like
the
dive
search
and
rescue,
which
would
be
our
public
safety
folks
doing
that
thing.
If
we
didn't
have
this
external
organization,
so
though
it
some
of
them
are
easier
to
defend
than
others
councilman
bill
Harr
just.
D
To
follow
up,
I
mean
I
I'm
agreeing
with
what
I'm
hearing
up
here.
From
my
colleagues
I
mean
this
is
my
fourth
budget
hearing
we've
had
this
conversation
every
time
I've
been
here,
I,
listen,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
commend.
You
were
taking
the
time
to
sit
down
with
everyone.
These
organizations
mayor
and
listen
to
them.
I've
got
the
highest
regard
for
all
these,
but
there
were
two
comments.
I
think
I
relayed
him
to
you
in
an
email
that
did
disturb
me.
D
You
know
overall
funding
sources
that
again
I
question
a
little
bit
the
need
for
the
city
to
be
involved,
so
I
share
some
of
the
same
concerns,
but,
like
those
are
two
points
that
that
I
took
a
little
bit
of
exception
to
and
listening
to
your
interviews.
What
some
of
these
arguments
are
with
the
organization's.
D
A
E
Just
matter,
if
I
could
just
one
more
quick
comment-
and
it's
this
was
also
a
part
of
our
discussions
earlier
in
this
regard
we
talked
about
you
know.
A
lot
of
these
folks
would
come
to
these.
They
wouldn't
bring
a
budget
with
them
or
they
would
they
would
have
reserve
funds,
and
some
of
them
were
restricted
and
some
were
non
restricted,
but
I
I
would
question.
E
A
K
K
As
far
as
IT
goes,
we
got
a
workstation
that
we
backup
every
computer
that
we
take
off
of
the
off
of
the
network.
We
take
a
backup
of
it,
so
that's
that
workstation
there
that
you
see
Barracuda
is
what's
our
spam
filter
is
once
we
moved
our
our
emails
up
to
the
cloud.
We
still
have
an
it's
old
Barracuda
sitting
in
house
and
what
they're
telling
me
is.
We
should
really
look
to
move
that
up
to
the
cloud
and
they'll
provide
some
more
uptime,
hopefully,
as
well
as
simplify
some
some
processes.
K
We
currently
have
to
jump
through
to
get
everything
working.
That
also
includes
the
archiving
feature
of
our
email
system.
I
have
to
remember
oh
and
the
IT
software
is
a
training
platform,
for
our
staff
is
one
of
the
one
of
the
biggest
risk
we
have
on
our
network
is
our
staff.
So
this
is
a
training
platform
where
essentially,
we
attempt
to
spam
our
own
people
to
teach
them
not
to
click
on
bad
links.
It
would
be
fun
I'm
just
kidding,
but
but
honestly,
that's
that's
what
it
is.
K
I've
heard
that
you
can
game
of
high
is
the
word.
You
can
turn
it
into
a
game
to
not
so
it's
not
a
negative
feeling.
All
you
clicked
on
the
bad
link.
You
you
make
it
positive,
hey
you!
Your
team,
didn't
click,
a
link,
so
we're
working
where
I
think
that
was
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
for
the
fourth
three-year
contract.
K
So
just
again
they
get
some
training
in
for
the
staff,
engineering
building
services
and
Street
each
have
twelve
thousand
dollars
put
in
that
total
of
thirty
six
thousand
for
what's
labeled
here
as
I
works,
it's
a
public
work
software,
it's
probably
one
of
the
bigger
hits
we
have
for
IT
this
year.
It's
a
kind
of
push
we're
making
with
almost
every
department
is
try
to
get
a
software
to
help
them
do
their
job
more
efficiently.
K
This
one
would
be
your
work
order
management
and
we
haven't
done
a
deep
dive,
but
it's
each.
What
I
found
interesting
is
when
I
was
doing
research
I
ran
across
I
works
and
they're
like
hey.
Have
you
do
you
know
Ken,
like
yeah
I
know
Ken
he's
right
up
stairs
next
to
me.
Oh,
oh
I
also
work
with
Brandi.
Well,
everything
kind
of
aligned
they've
already
been
doing
their
own
research
for
the
same
product.
So
it's
kind
of
the
need.
Is
there
the
street
department's
looking?
It
would
also
include
fleet
maintenance.
K
I
should
have
printed
off
the
list,
but
it's
a
it
would
be
our
entire
Public
Works
Department
run
off
this.
It
would
be
a
huge
change
from
the
building
permits,
how
we,
how
we
get
requests
in
from
the
from
the
public
and
how
we
respond
to
those
and
how
we
report
on
those
requests
from
from
start
to
finish.
So
that's
a
pretty
big
project,
something
we'd,
probably
start
doing
a
deep
dive
on
this.
This
winter.
Here.
K
K
They
can't
remember
the
exact
number
that
we
have,
but
we're
currently
demoing
a
computer
to
see
if,
if
we'll
stick
with
tough
books
or
with
a
different
brand,
so
that's
55
of
that
thousand,
the
other
20
is
they
they've
got
an
old
analog
camera
system.
So
upgrading
a
few
cameras
around
the
PD
as
well
as
they've
got
their
servers
are
in
pretty
rough
shape,
probably
probably
around
10
years
old,
without
having
the
notes
right
in
front
of
me,
so
virtualizing
their
servers.
K
K
K
We
currently
have
a
very
dated
server.
Something
needs
to
be
done.
There's
a
lot
of
things
up
in
the
air
with
the
Civic
rec
project
is,
will
golf
be
part
of
that.
Not
it's
always
kind
of
a
unique
situation
with
golf.
So
right
now
something
needs
to
be
done
with
that
server
either
needs
to
be
taken
out
or
replaced.
So
that's
the
dollars
to
get
one
computer
and
a
baseline
server
put
in
there.
K
C
E
K
Got
a
five
year
rotation
currently,
and
we
had
a
lot
of
catch-up
to
do
so
we're
out
of
five
year
and
we
do
have
a
number
of
computers
in
the
city
that
are
quote
not
in
rotation,
so
whether
we
rotate
the
five
year
old
computers
down
to
them
and
then
we
reuse
them
until
they
die.
And
then
we
find
another
old
computer
and
put
it
in
this
place
and
we
keep
IT
busy.
That
way.
You.
E
K
K
E
K
K
K
Think
there
are
five
years
old:
it's
there,
they're,
really
expensive
units
to
I
mean
a
tough
books
like
2500,
so
it
hits
hard
when
they
come
up,
do
a
25
baseline
and
that
doesn't
count
the
mountain,
the
heart
and
the
harness.
So
I
get
what
you're
saying
yeah
we
could
look
at
it
I
think
it's
a
usability
thing
at
some
point
too
yeah.
K
A
E
K
K
Where,
where
he
does
his
business
on
it,
and
we
do
our
business,
so
if
we
house
his
business
over
here
is
that
okay,
it's
a
unique
situation.
It's
it's
always
difficult.
So
he
uses
the
same
server
same
software
as
we
do
do
to
our
business.
He
does
his
point-of-sale
food
orders
through
the
same
software
and
server
that
we
use
to
do
our
memberships
and
in
our
portion
of
the
bio
them.
So
that's
that's,
what's
unique
about
it
and
that's
that's
why,
in
addition
to
that,
is
we
be
relying
on
I?
K
Think
we
I
think
we
could
probably
make
it
work,
but
we
are
if
that
connection
goes
down.
I
think
we're.
Probably
okay,
we
haven't
they've
got
a
little
bit
of
a
lesser
connection
out
there
for
us,
but
I
think
we
can
get
by
with
having
the
server
hosted
here.
If
that's
the
direction,
we
want
to
go
I.
D
I'm
not
sure
if
I
should
direct
this
to
you
or
maybe
to
Lee
or
Tim
back
there
I
know,
we've
seen
some
pretty
unique
things
over
the
years
that
have
qualify
for
some
kind
of
state
or
federal,
grant
funding
for
the
police
department,
Fire
Department
any
of
this
by
chance
qualify
for
for
anything.
Is
that
been
considered
or
looked
at.
L
Grants
most
of
the
grants
that
are
out
there
are
for
similar
type
equipment.
This
year,
we've
put
in
some
monies
to
replace
some
radios
$20,000
from
Homeland
Security.
We
thought
that
was
more
appropriate
use,
I'm,
not
sure
if
computers
would
fit
quite
quite
into
that
or
not.
We
can
sort
of
look
into
it,
though
bottom.
A
Is
City
Hall
and
I'll?
Take
a
whack
at
that
Kristen
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
not
very
many
changes
in
that
we
did
see
a
decrease
in
the
equipment.
Maintenance
was
just
moved
over
to
the
IT
budget
and
we
pay
60%
of
the
salary
for
the
maintenance
person
out
of
the
City
Hall
budget
and
the
other
40
comes
out
of
auditorium
funds:
yeah,
okay,
anything
I,
missed
any
questions.
I
think
it's
working
great
I!
Our
maintenance
here
is
awesome.
M
M
Some
people
request
set
to
stand
desks
or
other
computer
software,
so
that
was
kind
of
one
of
those
budget
items
that
we
were
trying
to
include,
and
that
would
also
include
anything
else.
They
were
hoping
for
on
their
computers.
I
know,
IT
is
handling
our
software
for
us,
Blue
Beam
was
listed.
That's
a
PDF
software
that
is
beneficial
I,
guess
I'll
say
for
the
engineering
staff.
I've
used
it
in
the
past,
it's
more
compatible
with
CAD
software,
so
I
think
it's
going
to
be
good,
going
forward.
I
guess
that's
where
we
sit
all.
A
L
L
Blair
a
lot
of
the
seats,
it's
kinda,
awkward,
a
front
okay,
so
on
page
58
we've
got
the
police
department
budget
summary:
you
can
see
the
personnel
services
that
was
adjusted
by
finance
travel,
expense.
There's
an
increase
there
of
8,000.
We
actually
scratched
that
we
had
some
training
that
we
thought
we
were
going
to
host
next
year.
L
It's
actually
this
year,
so
I've
made
it
known
to
christen
and
the
mayor
that
we're
gonna
take
that
out
of
there,
so
there'll
be
no
net
increase
in
our
travel,
expense,
computer
maintenance,
small
increase,
therefore,
actual
maintenance
costs,
equipment,
maintenance,
you'll
see,
there's
a
plus
of
17,000,
actually
there's
grants
that
take
care
of
that.
We
have
three
grants.
We
have
$11,000
grant
that
we're
going
to
purchase
some
radars
for
the
cars
with
and
another
speed
trailer
radar
unit.
L
We
also
have
$20,000
that
we
budgeted
for
portable
radios,
so
actually
that
line
decreased
by
a
thousand
dollars.
If
you
look
at
it
that
way
and
insurance
premiums,
of
course,
that's
just
the
cost
of
doing
business,
I
guess
so
nothing
there.
We
increased
capital
purchases,
big
question
mark
there
when
we
saw
that
came
out
with
a
zero
caught
us
off
guard.
We
were
kind
of
expecting
maybe
some
cuts,
but
not
to
lose
everything.
So
I
just
want
to
kind
of
go
through
those
step
by
step
with
Council
and
just
get
some
input
on
their
thoughts.
L
We
had
in
our
CIP
three
patrol
cars
to
replace
next
year.
We
would
like
to
see
one
at
a
minimum.
We've
got
a
car,
that's
going
to
be
over
a
hundred
thousand
by
next
year
and
if
we
wait
another
year,
it'll
be
at
around
one
hundred
thirty
thousand
miles,
there's
full
warranty
on
those
vehicles
for
engine
and
transmission
up
two
hundred
thousand.
So
if
we
do
have
an
engine
or
transmission
go
out,
those
are
quite
expensive
repair
bills.
L
But
I
would
like
to
see
Council
consider
that
adding
one
car
back
in
for
sure
to
the
tune
of
thirty
three
thousand
three
hundred
and
five
dollars,
and
that
covers
the
cost
of
the
car,
which
is
actually
an
SUV
and
some
of
the
equipment
and
then
for
discussion
tonight.
We
had
wanted
to
replace
four
of
our
ad
units
that
we
have
in
the
cars.
Those
are
external
defibrillators,
we've
saved
three
or
four
lives
that
we
know
documented
and
we've
used
them
other
times
on
individuals
in
town.
L
We
get
there
typically
before
Fire
and
Rescue,
because
we're
out
moving
around
the
town
and
we
hooked
those
up
and
they
actually
use
our
pads
once
they
get
there
and
hook
them
up
to
their
machine.
If
we've
already
got
them
hooked
up,
so
those
are
gonna
be
six
years
old
next
year.
If
we
push
them
back
another
year,
it'll
be
seven
well
in
next
year's
in
2020s
budget.
We
also
we're
gonna
replace
for
more
of
that
year.
So
those
four
would
either
go
back
or
we'd
compound
that
from
6,000
to
12,000.
So.
L
Other
things
we
had
in
our
budget,
we
had
for
patrol
rifles
they're
about
14
years
old,
we're
okay.
If
we
push
them
back
here,
they're
a
10-year
replacement
cycle,
but
they're
functioning.
Fine.
Now
we're
okay.
If
we
push
them
back
a
year,
but
you
know
next
year,
we've
got
other
things
in
our
budget
or
I
should
say
I
keep
saying
next
year,
I
mean
2020.
So
in
2020
is
budget.
We
were
looking
at
about
200
thousand
dollars
worth
of
items
that
year
too.
L
So
if
we
push
things
back
everything
kind
of
slides
back,
so
the
rifles
were
okay
with
moving
them
back.
We
had
some
digital
portable
radios,
13
of
them,
that's
ones
that
the
officers
were
on
their
hip
they're
about
33,000
for
13
of
them.
We're
actually
gonna
get
eight
of
those
through
a
grant
this
year.
So
we're
okay.
If
we
push
them
back,
those
all
do
need
to
be
replaced
by
the
year
2023.
L
So
we've
been
trying
to
do
a
few
a
year,
instead
of
doing
them
all
at
once,
and
then
there
was
a
couple
of
software
things
for
our
accident:
crime-scene
investigation
team
that
we
were
looking
to
replace
for
a
3030
300
we're
okay,
pushing
those
back
a
year,
and
then
we
also
had
five
shotguns
that
are
1997
models
and
we
use
them
as
our
less
lethal
beanbag
round
shotguns.
Those
can
certainly
wait
another
year
as
well,
so
in
the
overall
part
of
the
budget.
L
C
L
They
recommend
a
five-year
replacement
just
because
of
the
technology,
also
the
batteries.
You
can
replace
the
batteries
in
them
and
we
have
done
that.
We've
got
a
better
battery
life
out
of
them
since
we
went
to
the
SUV's
because
they're
inside
the
car
or
inside
the
SUV
all
day
and
all
night,
and
when
they
were
in
the
trunks
of
cars.
You
know
they
were
out
in
the
different
temperatures,
so
we've
been
getting
better
battery
life,
but
we
can't
replace
the
batteries.
It's
just
the
technology
with
inside
of
it
the
circuit
boards
and
stuff.
L
L
So,
with
the
police
department
of
things
this
year
we
had
requested
to
replace
to
or
not
to
add
to
patrol
positions.
We
came
up
with
a
justification,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
went
into
the
justification.
My
assistant,
Chief
Tim,
to
me
helped
me
with
this
immensely
and
he
could
certainly
come
forward.
If
you
have
any
questions,
I
can't
answer,
but
some
of
the
things
we
talked
about.
Why
we
need
to
grow
our
force.
L
There's
stats
out
there,
the
FBI
says
you
should
have
2.4
per
1000
residents,
the
International
Association
chief
police
says
you
should
have
2
per
thousand,
but
what
it
really
boils
down
to
is
what's
going
on
within
our
community
and
what's
what
number
is
adequate
for
water
tone?
We
looked
around
to
see
what
other
cities
had
in
Watertown
we're
currently
at
about
1.6
officer
per
1000.
Here
on
is
1.9
yankton's
1.9,
4
million
is
1.8.
Aberdeen
is
1.7
if
we
were
to
add,
like
I
request,
we'd
be
at
1.7
so
numbers.
L
L
We
get
a
lot
of
complaints
about
speeds,
stop
sign
issues
different
things
within
the
community
and
it's
it's
hard
from
to
us
to
be
as
proactive
as
we'd
like
to
be
because
a
lot
of
times
the
officers
are
going
from
call
to
call,
and
just
because
you
clear
a
call
doesn't
mean
it's
done.
You
still
gotta
do
reports.
You
got
to
sit
somewhere
and
type
off
the
report
and
then
eventually
it
has
to
be
checked
by
supervisor,
and
then
it
comes
back
with
some
things
to
fix,
and
then
you
end
up
going
to
court.
L
If
we
could
add
staff,
it
would
help
us
to
do
some
more
training.
We
fill
a
training
is
very
important,
but
right
now
we
have
to
deny
training
because
officers
we
need
to
maintain
our
staffing
on
the
streets.
So
an
officer
might
say:
hey,
there's
a
great
training
on
peer,
it's
free
and
just
got
to
get
there
pay
the
gas.
We
look
at
the
shift.
We
can
go
down
to
three
officers.
L
We
refuse
a
good
amma
less
than
four
officers
at
any
time,
and
so
we
have
to
deny
the
training
unless
somebody
else
is
willing
to
step
up
and
cover
that
we
have
had
some
of
our
command
staff.
Captain's
fill
a
shift.
We've
had
some
of
our
detectives
fill
a
shift.
They've
all
got
duties
that
they
need
to
do
as
well.
So
just
another
thing,
I
thought
it
throw
in
there
just
so.
You
understand
that,
on
the
average
at
the
police
department
we
respond
to
about
22,000
calls
a
year
which
is
about
61
calls
a
day.
L
Typically
patrol
has,
if
they're
full
staffed
six
people
on
duty,
a
sergeant
corporal
and
four
officers,
but
we
end
up
being
short-handed
quite
often
because
of
some
turnover
we've
lost
a
couple
employees.
In
the
last
couple
years,
we've
had
other
years
where
we
lose
two
or
three
near
there's
sick
issues,
there's
injury
issues.
We've
currently
have
an
officer
on
an
injury.
Now
that's
been
out
for
eight
weeks
and
it's
looking
to
be
extended
and
we've
had
a
couple
military
deployments:
I've
been
before
council
asking
to
backfill
some
of
those.
L
So
right
now
we're
down
about
three.
We
had
an
officer
leave
we're
filling
that
spot.
We
had
an
officer
leave
before
that
that
we're
still
training
that
person
and
then
we've
got
the
injured
officer,
so
we're
down
three
officers
right
now
on
the
street,
so
it
makes
things
a
little
tougher
I've
been
before
council
before
and
mentioned
how
our
drug
stats
are
going.
In
2017
we
had
a
forty
percent
increase
over
2016
from
drug
arrests.
L
A
big
thing
that
we
like
to
need
to
do
in
our
as
a
police
department
is
being
involved
within
the
community.
So
there's
a
lot
of
committees,
board
service
clubs
and
other
things
that
we
do
as
officers
some
examples
of
some
things
that
we
also
do
is
we
do
the
reach
program,
which
is
for
child
abuse
and
families.
We
have
an
officer
dedicated
to
that
once
a
week
and
he
does
things
outside
of
that
one
day
as
well.
L
To
finish
up
those
cases
we're
actively
involved
with,
dare
in
the
schools
teaching
the
children
in
the
fifth
grade,
not
to
use
drugs,
you
have
to
be
proactive,
kinase
county
drug
court,
an
officer,
that's
dedicated
that
one
day
a
week
pretty
much
and
he
does
follow-up
throughout
the
week
as
well,
and
so
those
are
all
things
that
the
es
officers
are
doing.
So
one
of
the
things
I
pointed
out
in
my
justification
was
that
I
intend
and
I
have
dropped
one
position
from
our
records
and
beer
on
the
bureau.
L
We
had
a
record
supervisor
and
two
records
personnel
when
one
of
our
records,
personnel,
retired
I
didn't
replace
that
position.
A
lot
of
the
stuff
that
the
officers
are
doing.
I
was
more
computerized,
so
it's
not
as
much
work
in
the
Records
Division
for
them,
so
I
met
with
the
staff
in
there
and
they
could
assume
all
the
duties
with
the
two
of
them.
So
that's
what
we've
been
doing
since
then.
A
record
starts
at
about
31,000
for
a
grade-two
position.
An
officer
starts
at
about
40,000
for
a
great
five
position.
L
So
that's
about
roughly
a
$10,000
difference.
I
know
there's
a
couple
other
things
you
need
to
factor
in
health
insurance
and
all
those
type
of
things.
So
new
patrol
officer,
typically
with
all
the
benefits,
is
in
that
sixty
to
sixty
one
thousand
dollar
range,
I
didn't
figure
out
what
a
records
clerk
is,
but
I
think
really.
The
only
difference
would
be
in
retirement.
When
the
officer
pays
8%
the
city
matches
that
a
person
records
clerk
is
at
6%
Kristen,
so
I
think
that's.
Basically
the
only
difference
and
Kristen
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
B
When
I
looked
at
it,
if
we
would
compare
a
new
patrol
officer
to
a
new
records
clerk,
how
we
budget
a
new
position
is
obviously
the
step
one
start
and
then
with
the
health
and
turns
and
stuff
it
would,
it
would
be
about
a
$25,000
a
year
difference
and
that's
just
taking
into
account
the
wages
and
the
benefits.
So
I.
Don't.
L
So
I
guess
my
ask
is
I
would
really
like
to
have
two
officers:
I
dedicate
them
to
the
night
shift
or
they're
typically
running
low
I
would
dedicate
those
guys
to
night
shift
if
we
can
get
the
full
staff
and
remain
there.
I
would
be
able
to
allow
some
more
flexibility
to
our
k9
officers
to
work
the
drugs
a
little
more
right.
L
Now
they
mix
in
with
the
calls
when
they
need
to
and
which
is
quite
often
so
they're
not
able
to
get
out
there
and
work
them
dogs
as
much
as
we'd
like
them
to,
although
we're
still
finding
drugs
for
sure
you
can
see
by
our
reports
going
up.
So
if
we
could
get
for
sure
the
one
position
I
eliminated
one.
So
the
net
difference
is
according
to
Chris
is
about
25,000.
So
if
that
is
what
it
is,
and
then
the
new
officer
to
be
62,
so
basically
around
80
or
you
can
do
the
math
I.
B
Guess
the
way
I
would
look
at
it.
Is
it's
great
that
we
look
at
the
the
difference,
but
wait
the
counts
would
be
approving
then,
with
this
is
you
would
be
looking
at
basically
adding
for
just
the
personnel
if,
if
chief
McPeak
is
asking
for
the
you'd,
be
adding
120
basically
into
the
personnel,
so
I.
N
B
L
H
D
D
B
G
B
Public
hearing
that
are
not
a
public
hearing
and
ordinance
so
there's
two
more
readings
that
come
forward
with
the
final
numbers.
So
this
is
the
time,
even
though
it's
not
a
vote
to
state
what
you
would
like
to
see,
and
then
that
gives
the
finance
office
the
opportunity
to
make
those
changes.
Correct,
Matt,
yeah,.
I
Correctly,
so,
even
if
there
was
a
quorum-
and
there
was
a
vote
on
something
tonight
to
change
a
budget
number,
that's
that
whole
budget
comes
back
again.
I
think
has
a
first
and
second
reading
like
an
order.
So
that's
the
actual
appropriation
a
vote
tonight,
even
if
there
was
a
quorum,
is
just
to
change.
G
C
Things
we're
gonna,
see
Mike
and
I
had
a
conversation
earlier.
This
was
part
of
it
is
you
know
we
we
had
pushed
the
department's
to
get
more
on
a
rotation
basis,
so
we
don't
get
hit
with
big-budget
hits
in
one
one-year
reliability,
maintenance
and
all
that
I
understand.
We
know
when
things
are
tight
and
we're
tighten
things
up
there,
but
for
this
in
other
departments,
we're
gonna
run
into
here.
C
G
F
My
perspective,
it
would
be
really
easy
for
me
to
take
Lee's
request
and
say
yep,
but
Lee's
the
first
one
in
line
I,
don't
know
what's
coming
next
tonight
and
I,
don't
know.
What's
coming
tomorrow,
it's
almost
like.
We
have
to
take
those
things
that
truly
are
being
fought
for
to
get
back
into
the
budget
aggregate
them
so
that
we
can
see
what
the
whole
picture
looks
like
and
then
act
on
those
based
on
priority
in
need.
A
Disagree
all
right,
I'm,
a
knight,
I
hated,
making
those
cuts,
I
really
did
and
to
try
and
I
cut
and
cut
and
cut
and
I
just
wasn't
there
and
I.
Wasn't
there
how
to
pick
and
choose
amongst
all
the
different
departments?
Who
are
all
saying
this
is
a
critical
need?
You
know,
I
I
do
think
there's
a
little
bit
of
give,
but
yeah
have
to
be
able
to
clearly
demonstrate
that
appreciate
that
councilman
bill
Harr
I.
D
E
L
Okay,
with
the
9-1-1
we've
got
page
61
here:
significant
changes,
personnel,
just
your
normal
adjustment
and
health
benefits.
Computer
maintenance-
we've
got
some
actual
cost
there,
that's
minimal
increase
in
those
contracts
and
some
office
supplies.
We
actually
decrease
that
by
a
thousand,
because
we
hadn't
spend
it
on
last
couple
years.
So
we
decreased
that
and
then
travel
expense.
L
We
kind
of
offset
that
office
supply,
so
we
could
put
a
little
more
in
our
personnel
because
we've
got
11
full-time
dispatchers
now
on
four
part-timers
and
we
need
to
get
them
trained
as
best
as
we
can
and
we
do
a
lot
of
online
training.
We
do
a
lot
of
in-house
training,
but
we
also
need
to
send
them
off
to
some
events.
L
We've
had
a
an
apical
conference
in
North
Dakota
and
they
host
in
Sioux
Falls
every
other
South
Dakota
every
other
year,
those
North
Dakota
and
there's
also
national
Nena-
that
we've
sent
some
dispatchers
to
in
the
past
and
that
they
come
back
with
a
great
training
and
they
share
with
the
rest
of
the
staff.
So
we
thought
with
15
employees
we
needed
to
adjust
that
accordingly
to
get
those
all
trained
as
best
that
we
can
and
then
with
the
capital
purchases.
L
L
Computers
and
equipment
also
has
a
list,
therefore
21,000
for
radio
base
stations
and
what
those
are
is
the
radios
that
the
dispatchers
key
up
to
talk
to
the
Highway
Patrol,
the
Watertown
police
department,
canaras
office?
There's
a
set
of
I
think
it's
for
for
radios.
There
I
have
to
look
here,
make
sure,
but
their
digital
reaction
I
think
it's
seven.
M
L
D
Got
a
question
on
the
revenue
side:
why
other
financing
sources?
It
is
going
down
the
last
couple
of
years:
350
2017
325,
18
319!
What's
going
on
there
and
I
guess
a
follow-up
dinner?
Did
we
ever
get
our
final
5%
or
whatever
we
were
requesting
from
the
county?
What
were
we
at
math
like
it's
like
a
two
questions
there
well.
L
The
first
ones
easy
when
all
counties
are
100%
of
their
surcharge,
collected
right
now,
all
counties
contending
all
of
them,
so
they're
all
passing
through
a
hundred
percent
of
their
surcharge
to
of
the
city.
Yes,
yep.
The
reason
the
the
numbers
are
fluctuating
is
because
the
first
year
when
it
went
to
this
new
system,
the
state
estimated
some
of
the
costs
we'd
get,
and
they
fell
short
of
those
estimates.
And
every
year
we
tweak
it
cell
phone
lines
they
go
up
and
down
throughout
the
course
of
the
year
and
the
numbers
we
reported
this
year.
L
B
The
current
you're,
referring
to
the
transfers
that
yep
okay,
so
for
19
we're
budgeting.
The
general
fund
will
give
them
50,000,
that's
a
decrease
from
last
year
and
then
we're
we
are
continuing,
which
we've
held
pretty
steady.
The
transferring
from
the
capital
improvement
fund
is
250,000,
so
the
total
for
this
year
will
be
a
300,000
transfer
in
and.
B
L
F
L
G
E
H
H
G
H
We
reduce
that
by
five
thousand
and
of
course,
you'll
see
at
the
bottom
natural
gas
we
reduced
by
a
thousand
when
turning
the
here
off
a
little
bit
more
often
so
I
know
the
the
mayor
and
Kristen
and
council.
You
guys
have
some
tough
decisions
to
make
ahead
there
is.
There
is
a
couple
of
things
that
I
did
ask
for,
and
I
and
and
I
understand
that
we
we
have
to
make
some
pretty
big
cuts
and
with
Street
some
of
the
biggest
cuts,
they're
they're,
expensive
machines.
H
So
I
understand
it's
hard
to
spend
$300,000
for
a
piece
of
machinery,
but
just
so
you
guys
know
where
things
are
standing.
We
did
get
a
new
street
sweeper,
that's
replacing
one
of
ours.
We
had
that
several
months
ago.
It's
been
great
that
ones
that
it's
replacing
is
going
on
a
city
auction,
our
second
street
sweeper
that
would
be
looking
at
replacing.
Is
it
own
six,
the
hours
and
the
miles?
H
Well,
the
reason
we're
looking
at
a
crew
cab
is
there's.
Quite
often
we
have
three
of
our
patch
crew
members
that
will
get
in
a
truck
and
right
now
we
have
an
extended
cab
pickup
for
the
patch
crew
and
looks
pretty
funny
when
you
put
it
275
pound
guy
in
the
back
seat
of
that
truck.
It's
it's
tough
I've
been
in
the
back
and
I
have
to
sit
sideways
to
get
in
there,
but
that's
something
that
we've
asked
for
it
in
past.
We
haven't
really
pushed
that,
but
the
tractor
side,
more
I,
asked
for
I.
H
That's
fine.
If
we
push
that
off,
we've
we've
been
getting
by
so
the
only
other
thing
that's
pretty
important
to
us
is
we're
asking
for
fifty
five
hundred
bucks
for
a
generator
and
what
that
generator
is.
We
have
one
right
now
and
it's
a
backup
for
some
of
our
lights
in
town.
If
we
have
an
intersection
go
down,
some
of
them
are
on
battery
backups
right
now.
If
we
have
an
intersection
go
down,
we
can
run
down
there
with
our
generator
plug-in
and
have
it
up
and
going
right
away.
H
I've
been
working
on
it
since
I
got
here,
so
that
was
the
other
thing.
I
don't
have
the
dollars
in
front
of
us
right
now
for
what
that
would
cost.
But
that
was
that's
a
great
for
position.
I
know
would
be
fifty
fifty
eight
thousand.
So
that's
where
we're
at,
but
really
you
know
you
guys
got
to
make
cuts.
I
understand
it
it's.
It
is
what
it
is
we'll
get
by
with
what
we
have,
if
that's
case
so
I
I.
A
Will
say:
I
get
complaints
about
Street
maintenance,
more
than
anything
else
and
I
hate
to
make
cuts
from
the
street
department.
If
you
know
this,
this
would
be
one
I
could
easily
pay
change.
My
mind
on
is
I
know
we
can.
We
can
desperately
use
a
second
patch
crew,
we're
still
patching
I
mean
we're
filling
potholes.
Still
we
haven't
made
it
around
the
city
and
it's
August.
H
A
H
H
Projects
they
they
patch
for
us
on
that
too,
and
we
like
it
in
South,
Lake
Drive
right
now
we're
out
there
working.
We
do
have
our
crews
doing
some
milling
some
of
the
stuff
we
do
like
manhole
adjustments
and
water
valve
adjustments
and
this
year
in
our
project.
We
actually
do
have
bid
item
for
patching
on
that
project
and
done.
H
X's
went
ahead
and
done
some
patching
ahead
of
that,
but
we
also
do
I
do
hire
them
on
the
side
when
they,
when
they're
looking
for
some
extra
work,
which
isn't
very
often
because
they're
so
far
behind
most
of
time,
I
do
hire
them
to
do
some
patching
for
us
there.
That's
the
only
other
place
in
town.
Lang
really
doesn't
do
that
anymore.
I
mean
they
do
parking
lot
track.
Sealing
and
surface
sealing.
That's
pretty
much.
What
they
do.
H
F
H
Tournament,
well,
everybody
that's
on
our
staff
anytime,
we
have
snow,
is
removing
snow,
but
when
there's
not
snow
such
as
early
winter,
we
have
plenty
of
maintenance
in-house
in
our
shop
that
we
do
because
we
have
so
much
equipment.
We
do
a
lot
of
maintenance,
but
since
we've
gotten
hotbox
just
recently
we'll
be
able
to
patch
during
the
winter
doing
cold
patch,
which
you
actually
put
it
in
the
hot
box
heat
it
up,
and
it's
pliable
enough
that
you
can
work
with
it.
So
we
will
be
doing
what
a
time
patching
another.
F
Have
we
ever
looked
at
the
feasibility
of
bringing
that
in-house?
We
are
so
subject
to
our
basically
our
one
supplier
right
that
that's
where
we're
that's,
where
we're
getting
into
a
lot
of
trouble,
is
we
just
don't?
We
don't
have
enough
capacity
when
we
want
it
and
need
it
and
that's
within
our
control
to
get
the
work
done
and
it
you
know,
I.
The
reason
why
I
ask
this
as
I
travel
out
west
quite
a
bit
and
I.
F
You
know
the
county
does
all
their
County
suckow,
where
they
put
oil
down
and
put
the
rock
over
the
top
and
I
mean
they.
They
set
their
an
over
course
about
literally
a
day
or
two
they
do
a
mile
or
two
at
a
time,
and
it's
just
is
there
a
possibility
that
we
should
be
looking
at
that
not
only
for
quality
of
service
and
timing,
but
where
would
our
cost
be?
F
H
We
were
to
do
that.
We
have
worked
with
the
county
on
some
some
smaller
projects
over
the
years
as
far
as
having
them
assist
us
with
some
sealcoating.
They
do
have
the
equipment
to
seal
coat
and
crack
seal.
They
do
farm
out
all
their
asphalt
work.
They
they
don't
even
actually
do
any
patching
themselves
asphalt
patching.
No.
If
we
were
to
take
on
something
like
that,
we
would
be
pulling
people
off
of
other
other
duties
to
actually
do
that
and
currently,
besides
patching,
we
do
mowing.
H
We
have
one
two,
three
three,
sometimes
four
people
mowing
we
spray
I,
don't
know
how
many
acres
I've
never
actually
figured
out
how
many
acres
we
do,
but
we
pretty
much
spray,
especially
in
the
fall,
the
streets.
You
see
grass
growing
weeds
growing
in
the
streets.
We
spray
that
stuff,
but
we
do
have
guys
spraying.
We
have
one
guy
in
a
blade
all
the
time.
We
try
to
keep
two
guys
in
street
sweepers
by
the
time
they
go
through
our
crew,
we're
really
short-handed.
So
we
could
potentially
do
that
in-house.
It's
it
comes
down
to.
F
H
H
The
the
street
department
in
the
past
has
done
some
crack
sealing
in-house.
They
generally
would
not
route
the
cracks
which
I
don't
agree.
That's
the
right
way
to
do
it.
The
the
right
way
to
do
it
is
to
route
the
crack
so
having
the
right
equipment
for
that.
The
the
melter,
where
you
put
it,
put
the
sealer
into
the
melter
and
put
it
down
there
quite
expensive.
The
county
just
got
a
new
one.
H
I
forget
what
they
spent
on
that
I
want
to
guess
around
60,000,
but
they
actually
you
know
in
the
winter
when
it's
slow.
They
do
do
that,
and
that
is
something
I've
thought
about.
The
crack
ceiling.
I
think
in-house
would
be
a
good
thing
for
us
to
do,
because
in
the
winter
we
could
do
that
the
chip
ceiling
is
during
the
heat
of
the
year
and
we're
really
busy
to.
H
Be
able
to
do
that
yes
ceiling
I,
see
where
would
it
be
an
advantage
if
we
crack
sealed
chip
ceiling?
We've
really
backed
our
amount
of
chip
ceiling
down,
because
we
have
so
many
store
caught
up
with
the
seal
coating
for
the
most
part
I
think
last
year,
I
spend
a
hundred
nineteen
thousand
on
chip
ceiling
this
year,
I
think
I'm
slated
to
spend
150
160
right
in
there
I
think
so.
H
We've
backed
that
down
from
what
used
to
be
when
I
first
got
there
about
two
hundred
and
eighty
thousand,
but
we've
really
caught
up
on
a
lot
of
that.
Now
we're
focusing
more
on
you
know
we
we
need
more
mill
and
overlay,
there's
more
of
a
need
for
that
thing,
and
especially
with
the
IMS
the
payment
management
study,
it
really
shows
where
we're
lacking
and
it's
showing
more
of
the
mill
and
overlays
than
it
is
the
chip
seal.
G
H
We
did
last
year,
for
example,
I
had
the
county
do
a
bunch
of
shouldering
for
us
with
we
share
materials,
millions
saying
salt
mix,
that
type
of
thing
they
actually
spent
I
want
to
say
it
was
five
days
with
their
crews,
their
equipment.
The
only
thing
we
had
was
one
blade
following
behind,
actually
smoothing
the
shoulder
in
areas
out
and
then
wheel
packing
it.
H
They
helped
us
out
with
that
because
they
have
the
equipment
to
do
it.
You
know
we,
we
don't
have
the
right
equipment
for
shouldering,
so
we
help
them
out
with
that
and
then
like
what
we'll
do
in
turn,
we
do
bring
millions
to
them
that
they
mix
with
gravel
and
we're
able
to
use
out
of
that
pile
they
use
out
of
that
pile.
H
They
generally
haul
sand
to
us
and
we'll
mix
in
our
salt
for
our
wintertime
mixture.
We
do
share,
we
keep
track
of
loads
and
stuff,
and
we
try
to
balance
that
out.
So
we
do
share
materials
more
than
anything,
but
I
have
talked
with
Rick
Hartley
who's
was
the
current
superintendent
over
there,
and
we've
talked
about
various
things
recently
of
you
know
where,
where
we
could
help
each
other
out,
and
so
yes,
we
we've
talked
about
that.
You
know
where.
H
What's
the
next
step
really
is,
do
we
want
to
try
to
see
if
they'd
have
time
to
help
us
with
some
of
the
chip
ceiling?
We
have
stockpiled
chips
for
the
last
two
years
that
you
know.
We'd
have
a
lot
of
chips
there
to
do
a
full
year
of
in-house
chip
ceiling,
night
I
believe
and
be
able
to
keep
up
so
councilman.
D
Rob,
you
want
a
circle
back
the
Locust
Street
seat
street
sweeper
was
one
that
that
you
first
mention
as
far
as
definitely
in
need
on
your
end
and
that's
by
far
the
biggest
biggest
expenditure
you
want
to.
You
want
to
fill
us
in
again
where
we
are
currently
and
because
I
I
know
I
get
a
lot
of
I
get
a
lot
of
flack
out
where
I
live
as
far
as
a
street
sweepers,
not
fighting
their
way
out
there
right
now.
So.
H
Just
one
time
after
we've
gotten
our
first
loop
through
the
city,
then
I
generally
put
that
third
person
on
patching
or
other
things
that
we
need
to
do
and
we'll
go
down
to
two
people
street-sweeping
now.
Currently
we
did
just.
We
did
just
receive
a
new
street
sweeper
and
we're
getting
rid
of
our
oldest
one,
which
actually
has
right
around
twelve
thousand
hours.
That's
going
this
summer,
but
the
O
six
we
have.
That
would
be
next
on
the
list
to
replace
its
you
guys.
H
Maybe
you
don't
remember
this,
but
I
I
know
a
while
back
I
mentioned
like
they're
they're,
like
old
scorpion
snowmobiles,
they
break
down
all
the
time.
You
know
you
have
to
work
on
them
all
the
time.
They're
very
high
maintenance
machines,
there's
a
lot
of
moving
parts
and
they
wear
out
fast,
but
I
shouldn't
say
fast
because
getting
12,000
dollars
out
of
any
heavy
equipment
is
really
good
and
like
72,000
miles
sweeping
so
that's
like
three
times
at
times
around
the
earth.
H
D
B
And
that's
kind
of
where
I
think
I
wanted
Rob
to
go
back
to,
and
just
so
the
council's
aware.
So
if
the
request
is
for
the
one
maintenance
worker
to
be
added
back
into
the
budget,
that
would
be
about
fifty
eight
thousand
dollars,
that's
with
salary
and
benefits
and
then
I
think
we're.
I
too
would
like
clarification
is
Rob.
Are
you
requesting,
then
the
complete
capital
budget,
because
that's
four
hundred
forty
eight
thousand
five
hundred
or
is.
B
H
Time
biggest,
that's
the
biggest
thing.
I
mean
the
pick
up
the
tractor
side,
more
those
type
of
things
you
know,
we've
been
the
more
we've
been
the
tractor
side.
Mower
sprayer
actually
would
be
adding
a
sprayer
to
it
now,
instead
of
before,
I
was
requesting
just
a
tractor
side
more,
but
now
we've
through
talking
with
our
staff
member
that
does
a
spring
now.
He
said
some
good
ideas.
How
we
could
incorporate
that
machine
to
do
pretty
much.
H
What
three
machines
would
do
really
so,
but
that
we
could
put
off
I
mean
that's
I,
think
we're
okay,
putting
a
sprayer
tractor
side
more
off
the
pickup.
Yes,
we'll
get
by
the
street
sweeper
like
I,
say
it's
we're
having
a
lot
of
issues.
Matter
of
fact,
the
O
six
is
out
there
right
now
getting
worked
on
on
21st
Street
that
truck
shop
out
there.
If
it's
about
every
other
week,
we
have
one
of
our
street
sweepers
down
being
north
Don.
H
H
F
H
F
H
H
I,
don't
know,
I
can
honestly
say
and
that's
a
good
point.
I
mean
if
they
have
the
generators.
The
only
the
only
thing
I
would
hope
is,
and
this
is
a
lot
task
of
another
departments
generator,
but
could
we
keep
it
at
our
place
just
because
time
is
really
important
fast,
we
get
the
lights
up
and
going
I.
Think.
G
F
A
B
D
H
You
know
the
current
tractor
that
we're
replacing
it
has
12,000
hours
and
it
doesn't
have
a
sprayer
on
it
and
it
doesn't
have
the
type
of
arm
we're
looking
at,
but
we
we
do
get
by.
We
borrow.
Currently
we
borrow
wastewaters
tractor.
That's
got
an
arm
on
it
for
the
spots
that
we
need
the
extended
reach,
that's
kind
of
tractor
we'd
be
buying
they.
H
H
H
My
original
request
for
a
loader
and
a
blade,
the
the
the
loader
thing
were.
We
have
one
loader
we're
replacing
right
now,
actually
we'll
be
looking
for
council
approval
on
on
bids
here
in
a
September
4th
council
meeting
for
a
new
loader,
but
we
currently
have
two
loaders
that
are
hi
ours
ones
around
eleven
thousand
ones,
just
over
ten
thousand
hours,
and
we
are
replacing
the
one
right
now
as
we
speak,
so
I
had
a
loader
in
there
and
then
a
blade,
cycling,
the
blades.
Through
it's
the
same
thing,
it's
I
think
we're
okay.
H
H
H
H
H
G
H
A
N
H
H
That
has
been
that
has
been
the
case
of
the
the
one
loader
that
we've
been
limping
along
for
a
little
while
here
we
actually
put
it
in
our
sand,
dome
to
load
trucks,
and
we
had
a
note
down
there.
That
said,
leaving
first
gear,
because
if
you
run
it
in
second
third
or
while
reverse
is
okay,
but
second
or
third
I
mean
it's
a
$40,000
repair
and
we're
limping
along.
H
F
G
H
And
this
this
request
for
19
would
be
just
another
loader
that
would
be
replacing
one
of
the
high
our
actually
the
loader
would
be
replacing.
Next
is
one
we
got
from
the
landfill
like
three
years
or
four
years
ago
to
run
a
snowblower.
That's
the
one
we'd
be
replacing
it's
that's
got
like
11,000
hours
on
it,
so
she's
she's
seen
a
lot
of
use
already.
A
B
A
A
You're,
pointing
that
out,
Thanks
we're
gonna,
take
a
break
I
think
pretty
soon,
but
I'll
do
the
street
lights
item,
and
this
is
a
what
municipal
utilities
tells
us.
We
owe
them
it's
five
hundred
fifty
two
thousand
dollars
for
2019,
which
is
two
point:
nine
percent
increase
over
the
last
year
and
I
didn't
try
to
argue
that
down
or
anything
so
I,
don't
know.
If
you
want
to
discuss
it,
they
tell
us,
we
pay
it
and
it
helps
them.
A
A
A
A
A
There
was
a
decrease
in
the
consultant
services
on
that
and
other
than
that.
I
think
it's
just
the
same
as
what
was
proposed.
Water
Resources
is
the
department
that
we
take
some
money
for
water
monitoring
and
the
USGS
gauging
stations
and
our
required
education
and
outreach
for
meeting
the
Department
of
Environment
and
natural
resource
requirements
with
the
Clean
Water
Act.
So
any
questions
about
that.
E
O
Usually,
hang
around
good
evening,
everyone
so
I
think
I'll
go
ahead
and
just
get
started
right
with
the
general
fund,
we'll
be
talking
more
about
the
fine
spend
in
a
moment,
and
it
was
a
little
bit
of
a
shock
to
see
no
book
budget
with
the
cuts
to
the
capital
outlay.
But
before
we
talk
about
that,
I
did
change
a
few
little
things
in
the
personnel
services
and
that's
why
the
salary
adjustments
is
a
little
higher
than
we
would
usually
see
for
our
department.
O
What
I
did
was
kind
of
rearrange
what
our
part-time
folks
were
doing,
how
long
they
were
at
the
library
and
then
what
I,
really
added
that
is
very
important
to
me
and
to
the
children
of
this
community
is
a
part-time
library
aid
for
our
children's
librarians.
So
we
can
reach
more
kids
into
the
community
and
that
was
an
additional
cost
of
like
$7,000.
So,
overall,
the
increase
was
only
about
ten
thousand
dollars,
which
is
I,
don't
think
too
terribly
enlarged.
O
Other
things
were
just
adjustments
to
actual
costs,
including
electricity
in
the
water,
but
to
go
back
to
the
beginning
with
the
ILS
maintenance.
We
just
have
an
increase
of
5%
increase
after
the
first
five
years
of
using
our
current
ILS.
For
those
of
you
don't
know,
that's
integrated
library,
software,
that's
how
we
manage
all
of
our
collections,
all
of
our
patrons
and
things
like
that.
O
We
have
we'll
be
having
a
new
staff
copier
in
printer,
which
was
one
of
our
IT
requests,
and
that
$1200
is
an
estimate
to
how
much
the
maintenance
is
going
to
increase.
Because
of
that
particular
item.
The
good
news,
though,
is
that
we're
still
saving
money
on
that
thanks,
Spencer
overall
in
terms
of
our
our
printing
cause
I
actually
requested
that
our
ebook
budget
increased
by
$3,300,
because
we
are
having
an
increase
in
usage
and
interest
in
ebooks.
O
We
are
having
a
small
decrease
in
our
physical
collections,
but
that's
still
the
vast
majority
of
the
items
that
are
circulated
here
in
our
community.
Although
I'm
really
excited
about
the
uptick
in
ebooks,
however,
I
actually
thought
that
we
could
maybe
offset
some
of
our
costs
by
reducing
the
ebooks
request.
So
we
could
retain
some
money
for
our
physical
collections
so
and
then
we
actually
been
doing
a
great
job.
O
Save
money
on
cleaning
supplies
and-
and
if
you
I
hear
all
the
positive
reviews,
we
get
a
lot
of
compliments
about
how
well
our
maintenance
worker
does
to
keep
the
library.
So
one
of
aside
from
the
book
budget,
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
asking
for
in
the
capital
outlay
was
a
what
is
the
term
a
fogger,
it's
an
air,
sanitizing
fogger
and
it
actually
cleans
and
deodorize
as
the
air
and
surfaces.
O
Using
this
thing
it
looks
like
a
leaf
blower,
but
it
puts
out
all
this
sanitizing
mist
and
as
great
of
a
job
as
Josh
does
keeping
our
library
clean.
We
do
have
a
lot
of
potentially
very
germy
surfaces
in
our
children's
area
and
in
our
computer
lab.
So
that's
one
of
the
items
that
was
on
the
CFP
that
I
would
like
to
see
in
the
future,
but
I
understand
that
we
are
trying
to
tighten
our
belts
in
so
we
can
do
without
that.
F
O
Dollar
amount
was
hundred
thousand
five
hundred,
which
was
an
increase
from
the
2017
request
of
97
thousand
five
hundred,
and
so
that
that
request
was
entirely
cut
the
entire
thing
and
in
a
library,
it's
so
important
to
have
current
materials.
Did
you
know
that
Pluto
is
a
dwarf
planet
when
that
happened?
You
know
it
was
10
X
10
years
ago
or
more.
O
We
had
to
completely
get
rid
of
all
of
the
books
that
we're
now
inaccurate
and
then
replaced
them
with
new
books,
all
of
our
Pluto
books,
all
of
our
solar
system
books
and
that's
just
one
part
of
our
collection,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
reason.
Our
book
budget
is
so
important
that
we
need
to
have
new
and
current
materials
for
our
patrons.
So
we
can
continue
to
provide
that
access
to
information
in
our
community.
So
when
I
saw
the
cuts,
I
was
looking
well.
What
can
we
do
with
the
library?
O
What
can
we
do
to
offer
something?
And
we
already
kind
of
have
a
lean
budget
in
talking
with
our
board
there.
They
take
a
lot
of
pride
in
keeping
our
budget
rather
lean
at
the
library.
So
we
can
be
efficient
and
useful
in
the
community.
I
did
look
around
at
some
of
our
line
items
and
I
spent
some
time
with
our
administrative
assistant
Becky,
who
was
like
she's
the
budget
command
general.
If
you
will
over
at
the
library.
O
So
that
was
the
thoughts
that
I
had
is
that
we
could
probably
hopefully
save
that
and
own
it
and
move
that
towards
the
capital
and
before
we
asked
about
a
hundred
thousand.
So
that's
only
eighteen
percent
of
our
budget.
So
if
there's
anything
you
all
can
throw
away,
we
need
to
be
able
to
maintain
our
collections
and
serve
our
patrons
with
new
materials.
So.
A
N
A
O
Would
say
fifty
thousand
would
be
very
bare-bones
for
us
and
if,
if
I
could
come
up
with
like
I
said
some
of
the
savings
I
could
happy
to
be
share
with
you
to
share
with
you.
Even
some
of
those
cuts
are
a
little
bit
precarious.
If
you
will,
there
are
a
couple
of
line
items
in
our
budget
that
we
actually
request
funds
for,
but
we
don't
use
because
the
state
is
actually
paying
for
those
particular
items
and
sometimes
those
have
been
on
the
chopping
block
at
the
state
level.
O
So
if
they
did,
if
they
were
cut
on
the
state
level,
then
that's
something
that
we
would
have
to
pick
up
the
tab
again
for
and
I'll
give.
A
good
example
is
our
four
two
two
two
two,
the
courier
services.
We
budgeted
about
twenty
three
hundred
dollars
for
them,
and
you
can
look
past
over
the
past
few
budget
years
and
see
that
that
money
has
not
been
used
and
it's
because
it
was
only
a
potential
cut
at
the
state
level,
and
so
those
services
are
actually
used
for
our
inner
life
alone
around
the
state.
O
So
and
we
have,
we
do
maybe
3,000
ish
interlibrary
loans.
If
my
memory
serves
me
correctly,
so
that's
an
area
they
thought.
Well.
Maybe
we
could
borrow
a
little
bit
from
them
for
having
a
rainy
day
here,
but
it
does
potentially
it
could
potentially
be
an
expense
in
the
future
state.
The
state
I'm
sure
is
trying
to
do
the
same
thing
that
we
are
here
in
Watertown.
They
everybody
wants
to
conserve
as
much
as
they
can
and
spend
as
wisely
as
possible.
A
So
well
and
I
I
didn't
want
to
cut
everything
out
of
the
library.
What
I
wanted
to
do,
though,
is
to
have
you
tell
us
frankly
what
you
cannot
do
without
just
cannot
function,
our
community
can't
go
on
and
cut
virtually
everyone's
capital
outlay,
and
you
know
it's
painful
to
do
that.
I
lost
sleep
over
it.
I
guarantee
you
that
wasn't
easy
for
me
to
do,
and
we're
still
in
in
the
red
now
I
do
think.
Like
we
talked
before,
we
have
been
very
loosely.
A
F
Know
the
one
issue
with
this
is
I.
Think
I
should
go
on
our
list
for
further
consideration
when
we
get
to
the
end
and
somewhere
between
a
fifty
and
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
just
books.
Is
your
business?
That's
your
product!
You
know,
that's
like
trying
to
run
the
driving
range
for
that
golf
balls.
O
And-
and
we
like
I,
said
we
could
bare-bones
get
by
with
$50,000,
but
that's
still
going
to
be
painful.
It's
still
going
to
be
a
lot
of
materials
that
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
provide,
and
there
this
has
happened
before
in
terms
of
losing
our
book
budget
and
we've
had
to
work
for
a
few
years
to
get
it
back
up
to
where
it
had
been
before
so
would
think
it
was
in
2009.
O
Our
book
budget
was
a
hundred
and
eight
thousand
dollars,
and
then
the
next
year
it
was
zeroed
out
to
nothing,
and
then
we
used
some
money
from
our
fine
son
which
we're
just
about
to
talk
about
to
help
have
any
money
for
materials
that
year,
the
three
years
after
that
there
was
$50,000
budgeted
for
materials
the
subsequent
years
and
following
that
I'm
I'm
losing
track.
Sorry,
it
was
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
was
used
from
the
fines
fund.
O
At
that
point,
the
fines
fund
had
more
cash
in
it
than
it
does
now,
and
so
this
would
be
the
if,
if
there
may
be
some
money
used
from
the
fines
fund
for
the
book
budget,
it
would
be
the
third
time
in
less
than
ten
years
that
an
had
been
used
in
that
in
that
manner
so,
and
just
to
keep
that
in
mind
in
terms
of
the
sustainability
of
that
particular
fund
as
well.
So.
E
O
O
B
F
G
F
O
With
the
big
exception
of
Technology
expenses
and
Spencer
and
I
met
about
this
before
going
to
the
library
board
for
their
approval,
and
do
you
want
to
talk
more
about
it
or
should
I
kind
of
just
sure
sure
Spencer?
Thank
you.
The
first.
The
first
item
is
replacing
eight
of
the
security
cameras.
They're
approximately
something
and
16
of
them
are
analog.
K
Car,
so
the
cameras
we
we
have
16
analog,
they
have
I
want
to
say
in
the
40
range
cameras
in
the
library,
so
it's
I
think
the
biggest
I
think
they're
bigger
than
the
Wellness
Center.
As
far
our
security
cameras
go
we're
trying
to
get
rid
of
the
analog
cameras,
they're
dropping
like
flies,
so
this
is
to
replace
eight
of
those
16.
It's
something
that
I
think
we
have
ongoing
in
the
long
term
budget
to
just
try
to
keep
ahead
of
those
because
they
do
go
bad.
K
Young
adult
so
we're
adding
a
few
more
lab
computers
in
the
young
adult
area,
a
pretty
budget-friendly
computer.
But
what
we're
finding
is
from
an
IT
standpoint.
Those
are,
they
were
gifted
to
us
from
Lake
area
tech
after
five
to
seven
years
of
life
there
and
just
trying
to
keep
the
lab
up
and
running,
is
a
constant
battle
and
we
get
bad
comments
about
library,
computers
frequently,
so
that
was
kind
of
the
that
was
kind
of
the
angle
there.
So
let's
finally
get
some
decent
computers
in
there
for
the
public
to
use
I'm.
K
N
K
Then
the
envision
where
software
is
the
ability
to
be
able
for
patrons
to
print
off
of
a
mobile
device.
Currently
it's
pretty
difficult
to
do
and
it
only
works
about
not
very
often
so.
This
allows
this
gets
an
app
on
a
phone,
so
you
can
actually
print
and
then
pay
for
your
prints
at
the
at
the
kiosk
there
and
when
we
replace
their
their
computers.
This
year
we
ran
into
major
problems
with
receipt
printers.
K
O
E
O
C
Second,
question,
then,
is
on
the
public
computers
last
I
had
a
conversation.
That's
it's
been
some
time,
but
they
were
getting
a
lot
of
you
help.
What
is
usage
on
that
a
few
times
and
I
don't
go
to
the
library
that
much
but
I've
gone
a
few
times
and
those
computers
were
getting
used
a
lot.
What's
the
latest.
G
O
Well,
we
actually,
while
I'm,
trying
to
find
that
number
for
you
last
September
when
the
filter
was
installed,
is
when
we
were
able
to
get
better
data
on
the
usage
in
in
the
lab,
and
it
was
counted
at
like
32,000
uses
last
year.
That
might
be
a
little
high,
but
so
far
this
year,
it's
more
like
see.
If
I
can
do
some
math
here
about
9,000
for
half
the
year,
so
still
being
used
pretty
well,
and
especially
in
the
summer
right
now,
where
you're,
we
are
full
fairly
frequently.
A
F
O
O
If
we're
spending
roughly
seventy,
that
would
put
us
around
210
and
then,
if
we
have
our
we've,
projected
our
revenue
to
be
slightly
lower
than
in
previous
years,
so
we're
projecting
a
revenue
to
be
about
thirty
thousand
so
after
a
$70,000
expense,
which
this
fund
has
typically
been
spending
right
around
income
over
the
past
five
years
or
so
around
forty
thousand
and
income
and
I
mean
revenue
and
forty
thousand
expenditures.
So
that
would
put
the
fund
it's
still
around
two
hundred
forty
thousand.
D
D
I'd
like
to
see
us
replace
more
than
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
we're
cutting
out
of
the
general
fund
and
well
there's
a
combination
of
the
library
fund
and
library
fines
fund,
you
know
get
you
a
good
chunk
of
that
back.
If
you're
willing
to
dip
into
that
library
spite
fund
and
grant,
you
know,
draw
that
fund
balance
down
some
more
but
tamiya.
O
O
Money's
in
the
fine
son
may
be
used
for,
but
are
not
limited
to
the
purchase
and
maintenance
of
computing
and
networking
equipment
and
software
maintenance
of
photocopier,
copiers,
adult
teen
and
children's
programming
and
then,
at
the
very
end,
there's
a
few
more
purchase
of
physical
materials
for
circulation.
So
where.
I
That
was
adopted,
July,
2nd
2014
that
was
adopted
by
the
library
board.
Oh
yeah
I
did
find
an
official
Attorney
General's
opinion
that
just
says
that
the
fines
fund
can
be
used
to
maybe
may
retain
and
use
those
funds
for
library
purposes
in
excess
of
the
funds
generated
through
tax
levy.
So
essentially
anything.
A
O
B
F
Fines
can
I
just
make
a
suggestion.
First
of
all,
the
fines
fund
is
allowed
by
state
statute.
We
all
know
that
and
I
do
believe
that
what
we've
done
is
is
we
had
way
back
when,
when
I
said
I'm
as
the
liaison
to
that
we,
we
established
a
cap
on
that,
because
a
lot
of
the
income
was
well
beyond
what
the
scope
was
for
the
its
intent,
the
fines
fund,
which
I
think
overall.
F
That
was
a
good
thing
and
we've
gotten
I,
think
good
support
from
the
library
and
the
board
there
Myrick
and
magnate
recommendation
would
be.
This
is
that
for
our
discussions
purposes
today
we
go
with
the
$50,000
to
get
look
back
at
this.
You've
got
6,500
bucks,
that's
gonna
that
you
would
plan
to
spend
that
won't.
I
would
go
back
to
your
board
and
see
about
what
amount
you
guys
are.
What
your
total
amount
really
needs
to
be
went
from.
F
90
to
you
said,
92
to
100
or
yeah,
see
what
your
actual
amount
is
and
and
what,
if
they'd,
be
willing
to
cover
anything
above
the
50000
doesn't
mean
that
the
balance
of
the
council
won't
go
any
farther,
but
that
would
be
my
recommendation
because
we
do
have
to
have
ultimately
have
to
have
an
approval
made
in
a
timely
manner.
So
that
would
be
my
recommendation.
D
O
That
would
depend
on
what
the
library
board
is
comfortable
with
as
well
I.
Don't
you
know,
there's
nothing
that
I
know
of
that
would
say
you
know
a
minimum
or
maximum
amount
to
be
in
the
fine
son.
It
is
capped
if
it's
thirty
five
percent
of
our
overall
spending,
which,
let's
just
say
it's
a
million.
It's
close
to
that
it's
not
quite
that
would
be
three
hundred.
Fifty
thousand
dollars
would
be
the
cap
that'd.
P
Went
up
15,000,
that's
just
whatever
they
can.
We
live
for
our
nuisance,
the
bait
in
the
cost
we
dropped
from
10,000
down
to
5,000.
It's
just
been
something
was
on
the
books
that
we've
hardly
ever
used.
All
the
rest
of
my
stuff
is
basically,
we
just
took
a
five
percent
increase
across
board
and
that's
pretty
much
what
it
is.
I.
P
Q
B
P
A
P
A
The
transfer
out
to
Park
and
Rec
has
been
steady,
kept
that
the
same,
the
airport
transfer
went
down
a
hundred
thousand
from
2018
and
let's
see
everything
else.
Oh
the
the
request
for
the
Big
Sioux
project
was
80,000
and
I
put
50
back,
which
is
what
we've
been
doing,
and
it
didn't
look
like
that
was
going
to
that
project
and
Rogers
coming
up
to
talk
about
that
in
a
little
bit
any
questions
about
those
the
total
transfers
is
two
million.
A
A
F
E
F
E
A
A
A
B
We
didn't
pick
it
up
anywhere,
it's
just
with
the
how
the
BBB
fund
is
looking
at
this
point,
with
the
tax
revenues
coming
in
the
event
center
actually
sits
under
that
as
far
as
their
expenses
for
the
maintenance
and
stuff.
So
we
feel
as
though
the
transfer
was
not
necessary
because
of
the
revenue
and
expenditures
how
they're
sitting
in
the
BBB
fund.
A
B
This
as
as
far
as
what
we're
looking
at
with
the
urban
renewal
board,
you
will
see
no
budgeted
revenues
and
help
budgeted
expenditures.
The
urban
room
new
on
board
did
meet
I
think
it
was
last
week
and
they
have
proposed
that
the
assessment
come
forward.
So
the
council
will
be
I,
think
the
notice
of
public
hearings
will
be
going
out
shortly
and
that
will
again
be
coming
back
to
the
full
council
for
the
assessment
tax.
B
That's
where
we
hold
the
public
hearings
and
at
that
point,
if
it
gets
approved
by
the
council
to
to
have
the
tax
assessment
that
would
put
the
revenue
in
to
the
budget
for
2019
I
did
speak
with
Vanessa
and
asked
how
I
should
handle
the
expenditure
side
of
the
budget
for
2019,
either
way
how
the
tax
would
go,
and
it
sounds
like,
of
course,
if
the
tax
has
not
approved
the
assessment
is
not
approved,
then
there
will
be
no
budget.
Is
my
understanding
from
the
urban
renewal
board
their
stances?
B
If
the
tax
is
a
imposed,
they
would
still
not
want
a
budget
for
19.
Their
plan
is
to
kind
of
hold
that
cash
for
a
while
to
create
kind
of
a
balance
for
some
of
the
projects
that
they
want
to
do.
They
have
some
Street
projects
in
mind,
as
well
as
there's
discussion
for
the
board
to
look
at
a
coordinator
position,
and
those
are
just
some
of
the
things
that
I
was
going
to
relay
to
the
council.
D
Isn't
fair
to
ask
you
Kristen,
but
I?
Remember
the
conversation
a
year
ago
when
this
was
this
came
forward?
What
didn't
generate
a
lot
of
interest
because
of
the
comment
was
what
we
what's
the
plan?
There's
no
plan
for
that
I
mean.
Is
there
a
plan,
you're
gonna
be
brought
forth?
Are
we
gonna
go
down
the
same
road
again
and,
with
the
same
result,
I.
A
B
Would
have
the
opportunity
that
will
come
before
the
council,
the
first
meeting
in
September
the
public
hearing
of
the
assessment,
so
we
do
have
the
meeting
next
week.
I
could
request.
If,
if
that's
something
you
would
like
to
have
Vanessa
with
the
Urban
Renewal
Board
discussed
the.
If
there
have
been
talks
of
the
plan
for
the
board
or
if
there's
something
else,
you
would
like
me
to
well.
F
I
would
like
here's
what
I
would
like
to
see.
They
need
to
sell
this
to
to
their
membership
they're
written
renewal
people
I
would
like
to
see
a
full
audit
or
response
from
them
what
they
need
to
communicate
to
the
their
membership.
What
their
plan
is
I
think
they
need
to
get
a
yay
or
nay
from
their
plan
that
we
should
know
who
all
those
members
are
and
whether
they
support
or
not
support
the
reenactment.
A
A
And-
and
they
did,
you
know,
for
a
group
of
volunteers-
they've
worked
quite
hard
to
keep
the
streetscape
project
going
and
they
they
had
that
drawn
up.
We've
got
some
pretty
cool
ideas
and
renderings
of
what
downtown
could
look
like
with
a
with
a
park
and
a
ban
shell
open
area
along
with
bump-outs
and
various
features
in
the
roadway.
So
the
elements
are
there
for
a
plan
and
I.
A
Maybe
we
can
help
them
with
that.
So
a
little
bit
if
any
of
the
council
members
are
interested
in
providing
some
assistance,
I'm
sure
you
won't
be
turned
down,
helping
them
put
something
together
and
I.
You
know,
I,
don't
want
them
to
be
crucified
over
the
the
tax
coming
up
for
a
public
hearing
there.
There
has
been
a
lot
of
excitement
generated
over
the
renderings
that
were
done,
for
what
downtown
could
look
like
and
those
things
aren't
going
to
be
free.
A
J
A
A
A
E
Do
I,
you
know,
I,
do
recall
cuz
I
years,
some
years
back,
I
was
on
the
urban
renewal
board
when
I
started
as
a
council
person,
we
did
have
a
part-time
coordinator
at
that
time
and,
in
my
opinion,
it
was
very
successful
and
I
was
kind
of
disappointed
that
they
strayed
away
from
that
I.
Do,
however,
believe
that
a
part-time
person
would
be
sufficient
to
kind
of
keep
that
ball
rolling
because
I
agree
with
you
Mary
you're
right.
E
Q
Q
However,
we
can
we
can
bare-bones
it
this
year.
I
will
be
coming
before
you
again
in
the
next
month
to
request
permission
to
extend
our
grant
through
the
DNR
and
ask
them
for
additional
funds
in
the
next
for
the
next
three
years
segment.
We're
kind
of
at
that
weird
end
of
grant
cycle
right
now,
where
the
EPA
money
is
piled
up.
We're
gonna
ask
to
extend
that
to
be
able
to
spend
that
EPA
money
get
a
little
more
efficiently,
and
this
is
kind
of
how
everything
rolls
together.
At
the
end
of
the
cycle.
D
Q
The
adjustments
I've
made
what
we've
reduced
we've
had
this
other
supplies
fund
and
no
one
has
really
been
super
sure
about
where
that
comes
from
I've
cut
that
down
to
two
bare
minimums.
You
know
paper
for
the
copy
machine
that
kind
of
stuff
I
have
cut
back
on
our
information
education
fund
from
two
thousand
two
one
thousand
we'll
spend
less
we're
doing
more
work
with
the
zoo
and
reaching
no
students
and
do
an
educational
second
graders.
Third
graders.
A
Q
B
Can
I
could
start
and
then
we'll
see,
kind
of
where
we
go
the
there's
a
couple
things
that
I
think
need
discussion
as
far
as
the
general
government.
If
you
look
at
the,
if
you
actually
turn
to
page
93,
that's
actually
the
sheet
that
I,
like
to
kind
of
look
at
the
general
government
portion
is
the
event
center.
That
is
what
we
budget
for
our
equipment,
maintenance
and
the
utilities
of
the
event
center.
So
just
so,
we
kind
of
can
break
it
down
a
little
bit.
The
one
item,
the
city
promotion.
B
B
The
next
line
is
the
CVV
budget
that
did
see
a
slight
increase.
It
is
not
what
the
CBB
was
requesting.
Their
request
was
quite
a
bit
higher,
but
this
is
what
the
you
can
see:
the
318
to
the
284
other
than
that.
The
biggest
change,
of
course,
is
that
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
subsidy
has
moved
to
the
general
fund,
and
then
I
did
talk
earlier
about
how
we
increased
the
transfer
to
the
park
and
Rec.
It
went
from
50
thousand
in
the
past
to
four
hundred
thousand
so
other
than
that.
A
And
I
know
we
already
talked
about
this
a
little
bit
I
think
it's
really
important
that
this
fund
be
used
as
it
was
intended
for
our
Event
Center
and
for
our
Park
and
Rec
facilities,
and-
and
we
also
do
all
the
other
promotion
and
and
so
on
to
it.
You
know
quite
a
bit
of
that
money
goes
to
promotion.
B
And
casualty,
reserve
and
I
just
this
is
a
fund
that
is
set
aside.
This
would
be
any
type
of
small
repairs
on
any
of
our
equipment
property
that
we
don't
want
to
cover
through
insurance,
say
it's
so
minor
that
the
deductible
is
high.
You
know
we
have
those
words
and
you
can
see
throughout
the
years
I
mean
nine
thousand
nine
hundred
sorry
$8,400
was
in
16
and
we
didn't
spend
anything
in
17.
So
this
is
really
for
those
minor
expenses
that
kind
of
come
out
of
here
when
it
isn't
covered
by
insurance.
A
D
B
Does
make
sense,
I
will
probably
have
to
look
into
that.
I
would
assume
that
it
is
similar
to
how
we
handle
like
our
Tiff's
and
stuff.
Anything
that
is
collected
kind
of
over
the
necessary
is
actually
given
back,
and
then
it's
kind
of
spread
out
I
will
look
into
that.
The
one
thing
that
will
be
pretty
close
on,
though,
is
as
we
get
closer.
B
It
is
one
thing
that
we
know
exactly
the
only
thing
that
really
really
changes
is
if
we
have
any
type
of
it's
more,
like
the
edge
agent
charges,
but
I
know
going
straight
forward
what
the
principle
and
interest
payment
is.
So,
as
we
kind
of
get
closer,
we
we
should
be
able
to
get
pretty
exact
on
it.
Yep.
B
Can
go
over
these
one
by
one
or
I
can
just
give
a
it.
Okay,
yep.
So
before
you
are
all
the
TIF
funds,
the
only
thing
that
I
will
point
out
is
TIF
number
three
does
not
exist.
That
was
our
one
that
was
paid
off,
and
so
that's
what
we
like
to
see
otherwise
other
than
that
TIF
one
is
is
sitting
very
well.
B
Tif
two
is
it's
doing.
Okay,
it
seems
to
be
holding
kind
of
steady.
Five
is
the
one
where
we're
hoping
to
see
some
of
the
growth.
That's
the
one
where
we
definitely
have
a
higher
debt
service,
and
we
just
haven't
seen
the
the
properties
go
in
there
to
kind
of
take
in
that
revenue
and
six
is
also
doing
well.
So
we
just
continue
to
hope
for
the
growth
in
those
those
areas,
other
that
I
didn't
have
anything
else.
All.