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From YouTube: City Council Meeting 8 30 2018
Description
Agenda Items include Professional Services Agreement with Civic Design Inc and Mack Land Surveying LLC. Also included is the Proposed Capital Improvement Plan.
A
Good
afternoon
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
the
Thursday
August
30th
2018
City
Council,
meeting
of
Watertown
I'm
council
president
Glanville
hora
filling
in
for
mayor
Karen,
who
is
out
in
Washington
DC.
Today.
She
received
a
special
invitation
to
the
White
House
and
couldn't
pass
that
up.
So
we
are
carrying
on
without
her
tonight
and
I've
got
orders
to
get
out
here
in
time
for
the
Vikings,
a
game
at
7
o'clock.
So
also
we
can
do
let's
a
stand
for
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
B
A
C
C
But
you
guys
just
gotta
do
it,
but
she
says
you
guys
won't
and
another
thing.
When
evolutions
they
signed
a
consent
form
that
they
wouldn't
contest
it,
but
it's
the
other
chien
campers,
whatever
it's
called
they
will
not
don't
want
to
pay
for
it,
but
then
she
also
said
that
they
did
some
adding
on
and
building
us
like
that
and
she
doesn't
react
like
they
ever
got
a
building
permit
to
do
that.
C
Better
she
in
campers
or
whatever
that
camping
I,
don't
know
if
she
knows
what
it's
called.
C
E
C
C
F
I
was
it
that
mayor's
coffee
and
my
understanding
of
the
discussion
and
again
I'm
a
little
hazy
on
the
details
here,
but
I
understand
that
the
mayor
did
portray
the
the
option
that
the
council
can
take
as
far
as
votes,
a
majority
vote
to
overrule
any
objection
to
an
assessment
of
that
paving
of
that
roadway.
But
Mayor
was
also
clear
in
that
explanation
that
the
council
has
not
had
the
will
to
want
to
do
that
at
this
point
in
time.
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
been
fully
explained
to
the
council.
F
Yet
as
far
as
an
option
that's
available
to
you,
but
that
was
the
interpretation
I
had
of
that
discussion
at
the
mayor's
coffee.
That
day.
As
far
as
the
details
of
the
building
going
on
I
know
that
we
were
recently
in
discussions
with
some
parties
that
related
to
the
Sheehan
trailer
site
and
exploring
options
on
possibly
resub,
dividing,
possibly
purchasing
part
of
that
land,
and
we
did
explicitly
explain
to
those
people
the
requirements
that
would
be
triggered
to
pave
that
roadway
if
they
were
to
further
develop
that
site.
A
C
E
A
G
H
A
C
A
E
A
A
Buhler,
second,
all
in
favor,
aye,
aye
opposed
same
sign:
agenda,
approved
agenda
item
3
consideration
of
a
professional
services
agreement
with
civil
design
incorporated
for
design
of
the
Watertown
shooting
range
project,
expansion
to
include
200
and
300
yard
lines.
We've
kicked
this
round
the
past
and
last
meeting
we
were
looking
to
see
if
we
could
move
forward
some
other
options
on
this
and
I
think
we
have
some
exciting
news
to
report
so
Colin
or
eath
Weber
wants
to
speak
to
this.
So
take
it
away.
Yes,.
F
Absolutely
thank
you
councilman.
We
do
have
information
this
evening
regarding
contract
before
you
this
evening.
I
should
say
an
agreement
with
civil
design
incorporated
for
some
design
work
for
the
additional
200
300
yards,
shooting
Bay's
out
at
the
gun
range
and
how
this
has
progressed
is
when
I
came
on
just
two
weeks
ago.
Colin,
it's
one
of
the
first
things
he
brought
to
me
that
he
was
trying
to
get
put
together
is
the
addition
of
these
two
lanes.
F
The
original
budget
amounts
five
hundred
twenty-five
thousand
dollars
total
for
all
the
combined
work
out
here,
we're
currently
sitting
on
about
three
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
dollars
worth
of
contracted
work
at
this
point,
which
has
roughly
one
hundred
fifty
five
thousand
dollars
in
remaining
funds
available
under
the
current
budget
scenario.
So
that
being
said,
Colin
and
I
decided
to
proceed
with
a
contract
with
CDI
to
do
this,
design
work
for
this
two
hundred
and
three
hundred
yard
ranges,
and
that's
the
contract
here
before
you
tonight.
A
J
E
A
E
F
So
the
contract
before
you
then
is
is
for
CD
CD
eyes,
professional
engineering
services
for
this
design
work
and
what
that
work
entails.
Is
all
the
design
and
construction
documents
for
these
additional
two
hundred
three
hundred
are
lanes
which
includes
the
dirt
work,
the
grading,
the
berms
and
the
grading
sheets,
and
also
the
structural
sheets
that
are
needed
for
the
shooting
bays
and
the
the
other
structures
that
are
included
in
the
previous
work.
The
good
thing
about
well
a
couple
things
this,
the
design
the
CD
I,
was
able
to
do.
F
Given
the
extra
money
we
had
in
the
budget,
which
we
did
do,
give
a
verbal
go-ahead
to
the
consultant
last
week
and
they've
already
turned
around
this
product
for
us
to
get
it
back
to
the
contractor.
For
a
quote
that
being
said,
staffs
comfortable,
obviously,
and
approving
the
the
contract
before
you
tonight.
K
F
It
is,
it
is
a
cost
savings
for
on
a
multitude
of
FASTA,
so
you
can
look
at
here.
One
of
the
mobilization
contractors
already
agreed
not
to
charge
us
any
more
mobilization.
Even
the
lavas
original
equipment
isn't
still
on
the
site,
because
it's
still
an
active
contract
that
were
under
with
them
he's
willing
to
honor
the
mobilization
price
it
was
under
the
original
contract,
there's
no
additional
cost
there.
F
The
other
thing
that
we
did
experience
we've
already
received
a
quote
back
from
the
contractor,
for
the
additional
work
is
the
ink
cost
of
materials
that
would
likely
increase
over
time.
Just
in
the
couple
months,
since
the
original
project
was
bid,
we
have
seen
a
scope
and
material
costs
according
to
his
quote,
for
the
structures
they're
going
up
out
there
and
you
know
so
those
would
be
a
couple
of
primary
savings
that
we
would
observe
by
getting
us
done
now.
F
One
thing
that
does
it
does
push
it
out
a
little
further
than
what
we
would
like
to
see,
but
being
a
hunter
myself
and
having
moved
back
to
South
Dakota
I
know
that
the
East
River
deer
season
is
a
national
holiday
in
these
parts.
For
some
people,
including
myself
and
I,
did
look
up
that
date
as
november
17th
is
the
deer
opener
for
East
River
deer
season?
G
F
Very
good
question
councilman:
that
is
another
item
of
discussion
that
we
need
to
address,
because
we
would
need
additional
funds.
The
quote
we
received
from
the
contractor
to
do
the
construction
part
of
this
in
total,
some
nation
with
with
that
and
the
design
work
that
we
had
to
do
is
about
an
additional
$230,000.
Now
remind
you.
The
funds
we
have
available
right
now
under
the
current
budget
are
$155,000
a
net
difference
of
75
thousand
additional
funds
that
we
would
need
for
this
work
to
do
everything,
the
structures
and
the
grading.
G
That
would
then
give
us
a
two
hundred
and
a
300-yard.
That's
correct,
okay,
but
if
we
don't
do
both
of
those,
what
if
we
only
did
one
of
those
I
know
the
scope
of
work,
I
think
did
you
do
we?
Have
it
quoted
as
combined
between
the
two
of
them
or
did
we
have
one
and
then
have
the
other
one
as
a
an
option
or
we
did.
F
Just
have
a
quote:
we
asked
for
the
court
full
combined
with
all
the
grading
for
both
200
300
yard,
B's
and
all
the
structures
for
both
of
those.
Now,
if
it
were
the
council's,
will
we
could
we
could
back
that
off.
But
given
the
timing
of
things,
we
just
had
the
quote:
come
in
the
way.
The
way
we
preferred
to
with
proceeding
with
the
entire
improvements
I
do.
I
The
contractor
the
grading
contractor,
would
pose
the
prime
on
this
round's
construction
has
honored
every
single
price
that
they
originally
quoted,
or
the
original
bid
came
at.
If
you
started
to
change.
Excuse
me
if
we
start
to
change
too
much,
he
said
he
doesn't
know
if
he'd
be
able
to
honor
that
just
based
on
the
amount
of
work
that
that's
gonna
take
I'm,
not
trying
to
weigh
anything
or
in
any
way.
But
that
is
a
point
that
he
brought
up
is
that
he
is
willing.
A
F
Very
good
question
and
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
This
would
be
solely
funded
by
the
city.
We
did
explore
that
option
with
the
state
and
they
came
back
and
made
it
clear
that
the
with
the
federal
money
that's
tied
to
this,
the
grant
program
that
were
in
they
do
not
they
being
the
federal
agencies
do
not
like
adding
an
additional
scope
of
work
once
that
grant
is
awarded,
especially
for
something
of
this
of
this
size
of
nature,
game,
fish
and
parks.
F
However,
the
State
Department
that
we're
working
with
was
very
ecstatic
about
this
partnering
expansion
of
this
project
and
wanted
to
you
know,
use
it
as
a
kind
of
an
example
project
of
how
their
their
grant
program
and
a
community
can
come
together
and
make
not
only
a
nice.
You
know
recreational
use
facility,
but
expand
it
to
be
even
greater
to
meet
some
of
the
other
desires
of
the
community
that
200-300
our
rage
would
undoubtedly
meet.
So
they
were
very
excited
to
see
us
approached
them
with
this
as
an
option.
Unfortunately,
they
could
not
participate
financially.
A
F
That's
correct:
we
can
move
forward
with
a
change
order
under
the
original
contract
and
what
we
would
do
is
just
make
sure
the
housekeeping
is
kept
in
well
order
internally,
so
that
the
federal
money's
in
the
in
the
amounts
that
are
charged
under
the
original
contract
or
not
intertwined
at
all.
With
this
new
work,
which
is
also
a
point,
the
state
made
clear
and
asked
us
to
be
sure
to
do.
A
G
Just
to
make
sure
that
I
understand
where
we're
at
on
this
thing,
if
we
go
back
in
time
when
the
committee
was
working
on
this,
these
two
lanes
were
a
part
of
the
scope
of
work
that
they
were.
This
isn't
something
that's
just
getting
thrown
in.
This
was
actually
what
was
deemed
to
be
necessary
in
the
original
scope
of
work
from
the
committee
correct.
This.
G
Great
intent
and
these
got
reduced
because
or
taken
off
of
the
proposal
request
for
proposal
because
of
engineering
estimates,
correct,
correct,
okay,
so
and
that's
where
we
got
and
then
we
got
the
good
bids
in
and
went
darn.
You
know
we
could
have
done
him,
I
mean
we
could
have
or
something
real
close,
so
I
think
well.
I
just
wanted!
That's
an
important
fact:
we're
not
just
adding
something
on
we're
working
back
to
the
original
scope
of
work
that
was
planned
for
what
removed
because
of
estimated
dollars
correct.
G
Okay,
just
so
everybody
knows
that
so
we're
we're
talking
about
the
$75,000,
so
I
wonder
if
our
this
original
scope
of
work
was
bid
and
it
came
in
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
over
if
we
would
approve
that
you
know
months
and
months
ago.
That's
to
me,
that's
really
the
question.
Would
we
have
done
that?
What
do
we
have
said
for
the
75
thousand
dollars?
Get
the
whole
thing
done
and
let's
get
out
of
here,
I
think
that's
how
we
have
to
take
a
look
at
this
thing
and
see
how
it
fits
yeah.
A
G
A
I
G
F
The
numbers
are
fairly
firm
numbers
from,
of
course,
the
design
work
is
a
firm
number
from
the
engineering
consultant.
That's
before
you
know
the
action
item
right
now
from
CDI.
That's
that's
a
firm
number.
We
did
get
a
not-to-exceed,
which
is
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
tonight
from
the
surveyor,
which
is
a
firm
number
that
will
him
in
his
contract
accordingly
and
the
the
remaining
work
were,
the
75,000
additional
funds
comes
from
is
from
an
actual
quote
that
we
got
from
the
contractor.
So
that's
a
fairly
solid
number.
F
As
far
as
you
know,
I
actually
submitted
a
quote
to
us
again:
honoring
all
the
the
bid
item,
values
that
were
from
the
original
portion
of
the
project,
so
we're
pretty
comfortable
with
that
number
as
well.
The
only
thing
you
know
it
like
any
construction
project,
if
something
unforeseen
were
to
come
up,
would
be
additional
expense.
J
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
we
did
pretty
much
give
you
the
go-ahead
to
try
to
find
someone
to
do
that
and
I
appreciate
your
your
work
coming
to
get
that.
So
we
would
take
this
sign
for
the
agreement
for
the
engineering
they
went
on.
I
would
assume
the
next
council
meeting
we'd
be
putting
this
out
for
bid
or
looking
for
a
change
order
or
or
how
would
we
go
forward
with
that
to
get
the
work
done
on
on
the
actual
work
change
order,
that'd
be
on
the
next
meeting,
then.
F
I
Think
we
could
push
it
for
the
next
one
and
that's
based
on
Kristen.
If,
if
we
can
force
it
on
there,
you
may
not
get
it
in
your
initial
packet,
we
would
have
to
print
it
out
for
you
and
give
it
to
you
guys
at
the
actual
council
meeting,
but
we
do
have
to
have
some
direction
either
today
or
on
Tuesday
to
give
the
okay
for
them
to
order
the
materials,
because
the
materials
are
the
holding
point
for
the
completion
date.
I
G
G
I
With
the
change
order
we
could
do
Tuesday,
then
we
would
have
to
come
back
for
the
supplemental
to
do
this
properly.
For
the
funding
we
had
come
back
for
a
supplemental
either.
The
fall.
We'd-
probably
wait
until
October
for
that
just
for
timing
reasons,
but
then
we
would
have
that
supplemental
income
or
budget
into
the
actual
budget,
and
then
we
would
work
off
that
from
there.
So
the
timing,
we
could
get
a
change
order
to
you
on
Tuesday.
B
Spoke
with
Heath
and
Colin
they
came
in
and
we
talked
about
it
and
they
have
two
projects
that
are
actually
coming
in
right
now
under
budget.
So
there
is
the
room
in
fund
to
12
to
cover
the
additional
75
thousand.
That's
not
slotted
for
the
gun
range.
What
columns
referring
to
is
I
would
like
to
see
it.
Come
I
have
a
couple
other
items
that
you've
already
approved.
B
A
Now
I'll
call
for
council
action
all
in
favor
of
the
approving
the
contract
with
CDI
aye
aye
opposed
same
sign.
Motion
carries
next
item
which
is
related
to
this.
Is
approval
of
amendment
number
1
to
the
professional
service
agree
with
Mac
land
surveying
LLC
for
shooting
range
project
number
1619,
Colin
Heath.
You
want
to
speak
to
this
as
well.
F
Yeah,
so
this
is
an
amendment
to
the
current
contract
for
the
surveyor
that
we've
hired
for
the
original
phase
of
work
out
at
the
gun
range,
and
what
this
would
do
is
amend
his
current
contract
for
a
not
to
exceed
price
of
I.
Think
it
was
$3,000
for
the
additional
survey
work
for
the
two
hundred
three
hundred
yard
berms
and
the
grading
associated
with
them.
A
Okay,
I
look
for
a
motion
to
approve
this
amendment
who
motion
albertson.
Second
I
do
have
one
question
before
we
get
off
this
topic
totally
unrelated
to
all
discussed,
but
somebody
asked
me
the
question
last
week
that
I
I
couldn't
speak
to
Heath
Colin
I
for
orange
about
this.
Do
we
have
any
issues
with
led
reclamation
out
there
with
this
project?
Their
concern
was
with
proximity
to
the
river
out
there.
Is
that
a
concern
or
any
any
issue
that
we
have
to
worry
about
so.
F
And
that's
a
very
good
question,
especially
considering
the
proximity
to
the
river,
of
course,
with
rifle
ranges
you
can
have
an
accumulation
of
lead
over
time
and
quite
a
bit
of
it
over
time.
The
state
has
not
addressed
that
formally
with
us
as
far
as
any
requirements
as
far
as
the
operation
of
this
site
goes
from
previous
experience,
colin
has
indicated
that
he's
added
experience
with
other
ranges
where
every
ten
or
so
years
will
come
in
and
do
some
remediation
type
work.
F
Will
it
actually
go
ahead
and
collect
as
much
lead
as
they
can
through
the
through
the
backstop
and
the
berm
areas
and
regrade
and
restore
that
area
and
mitigate
it?
That
way?
On
a
you
know,
it
takes
obviously
quite
a
while
for
it
to
accumulate
enough
to
bring
somebody
in
to
pick
it
up
and
remove
it,
but
that's
something
we
anticipate
doing
on
our
site.
I'd,
imagine
over
time
and
of
course,
we'd
stay
tuned
with
any
any
federal
or
state
regulations
regarding
that
as
well
and
comply
with
them.
If
they're
running
in
place
and.
I
To
speak
on
the
reclamation,
that's
how
I've
seen
in
the
past
is
the
company
that
comes
in
and
does
that
actually
takes
the
lightest
pavement
because
then
they
turn
that
letter
around.
So
it's
actually
no
cost
and
I.
Don't
know.
I
can't
speak
for
any
contractor
in
this
area
if
they
would
do
the
same.
But
that's
what
I've
seen
on
a
couple
ranges
in
the
past:
okay,.
A
A
At
this
point
now
we'll
get
into
the
the
real
guts
of
the
purpose
of
our
meeting
tonight.
Jinna
item
number
five
presentation:
review
and
public
input
on
proposed
capital
improvement
plan
proposed
capital
improvement
plan
book
available
for
review
at
this
finance
office
in
City
Hall
I
do
want
to
stress
that
that
not
only
is
it
available
here
at
City
Hall,
it's
also
available
on
our
website.
A
B
You
okay,
so
this
is
our
long-term
capital
plan.
The
purpose
of
the
hearing
is
similar
to
the
hearing
that
we
that
we
just
got
through
for
the
2019
budget.
So
as
we
go
through
this
any
changes
that
the
council
identifies
any
increases
in
dollars
or
if
you
have
some
changes
where
you
want
to
see
stuff
moving
between
the
years
I
would
ask
that
you
make
the
motion
to
do
so.
I
will
then
collect
those
changes
and
it's
it's
similar
to
the
budget.
B
B
The
reason
that
I
think
that
is
beneficial
is
I
think
it
allows
us
to
see
truly
what
we
our
needs
are
for
our
future
budgets.
When
we
capture
some
of
the
larger
equipment
and
the
larger
improvements,
I
think,
then
we
can
focus
in
and
see
what
our
needs
are
really
for
this
city,
sometimes
the
smaller
pieces
kind
of
got
in
there
and
it
could
get
a
little
bit
too
much.
So
as
far
as
that
goes,
the
first
part
of
the
story,
Chris.
A
B
A
Trying
to
go
out
beyond
five
years
was
time
well-spent,
so
you'll
notice
we're
just
looking
at
at
the
next
five
years.
Twenty
twenty
to
twenty
twenty
four.
Also,
you
know
the
the
numbers
and
the
years
I
mean
this
is
more
than
a
wish
list,
but
it's
also
still
fairly
fluid.
As
far
as
the
number
and
the
years
I
mean
we'll
have
to
go
through
that
each
year,
you're.
E
B
A
B
B
We
only
have
a
certain
amount
of
money
basically
each
year.
What
this
does
allow
us
to
do
is
to
look
at
the
future
five-year
plan
of
the
city
and
say:
okay,
you
know,
as
we
have
it
laid
out
for
the
next
five
years.
Is
it
feasible?
Do
we
see
where
we're
way
too
high
in
a
year,
and
if
so,
is
it
is
it
high,
but
yet
we
have
a
grant
funding
on
the
backside
of
it.
B
The
first
part
of
the
plan
is
just
a
little
bit
of
kind
of
a
breakdown.
It
summarizes
the
expenditures
for
each
one
of
the
year's
totals
as
well
as
the
revenues
where
we're
seeing
the
revenues
come
in
and
then
it
goes
right
into
the
department's,
not
every
department
you
will
see
and
the
reason
for
that
is
if
they
didn't
have
any
equipment
or
improvements
over
fifty
thousand.
So
if
there's
any
questions,
I
could
meet.
A
Again,
Kristen,
it
might
be
helpful
you
and
I
this
conversation
yesterday
in
your
office,
most
of
the
things
looking
at
our
gonna
be
paid
to
the
larger
item.
Please
paid
from
the
second
any
sales
tax
fund
tell
us.
You
know
we
collect
what
seven
the
seven
half
million
roughly
somewhere
in
there
over
the
course
of
a
year.
How
much
of
that
is
already
committed
to
existing
debt
that
we've?
That
word,
that
we
have
to
pay
with
from
that
currently.
B
If
we
look
to
just
what
happened
in
2017,
because
that's
our
last
financial
closed
year,
it
was
right
around
the
three,
the
three
a
little
over
three
million
dollars
so
right
off,
the
top
of
a
seven
million
dollar
take
from
our
sales
tax.
Our
second
penny:
three
million-
is
already
used
just
for
debt,
which
is
all
of
our
sales
tax
revenue,
bonds.
G
B
And
you
will
see
kind
of
at
the
bottom
of
the
first
page
and
then,
as
it
goes
through,
you
will
see
that
we
notate
any
changes
that
would
have
taken
place
from
the
last
capital
improvement
and
sometimes
when
you
see
that
they've
just
increased
that
that's
exactly
what's
happened
as
we've
seen
that
oh
wait
when
we
had
it,
you
know,
say
two
years
out
now
we
know
really
what
the
cost
is.
So,
yes,
we
do
ask
the
department's
to
take
that
into
account.
B
G
B
B
Okay,
so
with
that
I
think
we'll
just
start
like
I
said
the
first
I
think
it's
the
six
pages.
It's
just
kind
of
a
summary
I
won't
go
over
that
everybody,
like
Glenn,
did
mention
it
is
out
on
the
website.
It
is
also
attached
to
the
agenda
if
anybody
was
just
online
looking
at
the
agenda,
so
the
very
first
Department
is
the
government
buildings,
I,
guess
I'll
kind
of
speak
to
this
one.
This
would
be
for
the
new
administrative
building,
City
Hall,
it's
been
in
the
budget
and
it's
been
moving
forward.
B
A
Just
make
a
comment:
I
think
the
a
dollar
amount
that
we've
got
in,
there's
probably
nothing
more
than
a
placeholder
amount.
At
this
point,
we've
discussed
this
the
last
several
years,
realizing
that
it's
something
that
we
have
to
address,
and
probably
sooner
rather
than
later
so,
but
but
again,
I,
don't
purport
I.
Don't
think
we
report
that
the
number
the
dollar
amount
in
here
to
be
that
cost.
They
can
win
this
war
to
take
place,
but
it
is
something
that
we
will
need
to
address.
I.
G
G
A
As
long
as
bring
up
the
Ice
Arena
for
those
that
might
be
looking
through
this
and
there
they
may
be
wondering
where
that
is
remember,
that
was
that
was
include
as
part
of
our
2019
budget,
the
the
bare-bones
facility.
So
that's
why
you
do
not
do
not
see
it
in
this
document,
but
your
points
well-taken
Mike,.
G
My
recommendation
on
that
would
be
to
push
it
out
into
that
2023
2024
era,
and
you
know
I.
We
can
always
you
know
we
can
be
a
year
down
the
road
or
two
years
down
the
road
and
see
how
the
Ice
Arena
pans
out,
both
operationally
and
and
with
its
its
ending
cost,
and
we
can
make
adjustments
but
I.
Just
don't
see
where
that
is
that
high
on
the
list
that
we
would
look
to
do
that
in
2020.
I
would
push
it
out
to
the
end
as
far
as
I'm
concerned.
A
B
For
myself,
it's
nice
to
just
have
it
with
each
change
that
you
want
to
make
that
way.
I
know
that
it
is
a
consensus.
It's
not
just
at
you
know
the
end
now
as
we
continue
to
make
if
we
have
a
shift
in
in
years,
if
there's
also,
if
you
feel
that
the
dollar
amount
is
not
sufficient,
I
think
that's
a
good
time
for
discussion
too.
As
Glen
stated,
the
2.5
million
dollars
for
the
admin
building
I
think
has
oh
I,
mean
I.
B
Think
the
the
idea
of
a
new
City
Hall
has
been
out
there
for
quite
a
while,
and
it's
a
project
that
continues
to
go
back.
So
I
think
this
is
probably
on
the
low
side,
and
we
can
just
keep
it
there
and
what
we
could
do
is
to
move
it
to
the
2023
as
suggested
and
then
maybe
just
really
evaluate
the
dollar
amount
as
well.
Unless
somebody
has
a
suggestion
of
a
number.
K
A
G
Was
Kristen
is
if
we
take
this
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
when
we
push
it
out
to
something
right.
This
has
all
been
looked
at
from
a
revenue
standpoint
and
expenditure
standpoint
correct.
So
if
you
take
two
and
a
half
million
now,
then
we
have
the
opportunity
to
bring
something
in
if
we
feel
that's
more
important.
Okay.
So
when
it's
all
said
and
done,
you'd
rebalance
all
this
and
see
what
it
looks
like
and.
B
That's
as
I
said
all
the
changes
that
we
make
tonight
during
this
long
term
planning.
Well,
then,
we'll
go
back
we'll
make
them
all
you'll
see
this
whole
book
again.
So
they
need
to
be
able
to
see
that
summary
of
each
year
as
far
as
the
total
expenditures
and
then
the
revenues
so
you'll
see
kind
of
the
balance.
B
G
Other
thing
is:
I
I,
don't
know
how
we
want
to
look
at
this,
but
there's
no
way.
You're
gonna
even
come
close
to
administrative
building
for
two
and
a
half
million
dollars.
Should
we
we
can
swag
it
right
now
and
come
up
with
a
number
that's
closer
than
this
Don's
putting
five
up
and
that's
what
I
was
thinking.
Are
we
better
off
doing
that
and
having
a
closer
real
number
I
would
think?
Wouldn't
we
we.
A
G
I,
do
that
sure
I
would
like
to
move
the
the
administrative
building
out
personally
I'd
move
about
2024,
but
let's
move
to
2023
and
I
would
adjust
that
number
from
two
and
a
half
million
to
five
million
dollars,
but
obviously
in
the
interim
we
need
to
do
some.
Some
work
in
regards
to
what
our
needs
would
be
and
get
some
engineering
estimates
on
construction
that
would
validate
our
number.
But
that's
what
I
would
do
is.
E
D
I,
just
I
think
we
do
have
some
information
that
Mara
Thoresen
had
put
together
and
he'd
worked
with
an
architectural
firm
and
laid
out
had
a
fairly
good
sketch
of
what
they
were
looking
for
and
I
think
they
had
some
costing
estimates
for
that.
So
that's
something
we
might
want
to
see
if
we
can
locate
I.
B
Can
go
back
and
and
look
for
that
too.
I
think
the
other
thing
to
keep
in
mind
as
we're
just
speaking
of
the
City
Hall
I
think
the
biggest
hurdle
that
we
found
is
not
only
finding
the
dollars
to
build
it,
but
the
other
thing
that
I'd,
like
everybody
to
keep
in
mind,
is
the
location
that
that's
also
kind
of
been
it's
been.
You
know
the
the
hiccup
so
just
to
kind
of
think
that,
through
to.
G
A
F
Chair
if
I
may
sorry,
if
I
could
just
interject
quickly
in
at
risk
to
sound
like
the
new
guy
that
might
want
a
new
building
that
that's
not
my
point,
but
just
in
my
short
time
here.
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
the
fact.
I
think
the
functional
benefits
to
a
new
facility
I
can
see
the
needs
in
two
weeks
time
on
how
those
functional
benefits
of
the
city
staff
at
City
Hall
would
be
greatly
improved
by
a
new
facility
like
this
and
I
would
just
want
to
remind
everybody.
F
I
think
that
would
be
the
goal
of
facility
like
this.
It's
not
about
the
bells
and
whistles,
but
the
the
functionality
and
the
services
that
we
provide
and
the
access
to
those
services
and
I've
seen
everything
from
how
we're
arranged
on
second
floor
to
where
I
t's
equipment
is
housed
to
the
lack
of
meeting
rooms
for
the
finance
office.
And
these
are
maybe
all
points
you
guys
are
all
very
well
aware
of,
but
I
just
thought
I'd
make
note
of
that
for
the
record.
Just
in
my
brief
time
here.
Ok.
A
B
B
I
had
a
little
bit
of
time
to
to
to
kind
of
get
my
variance
before
we
would
ever
go
through
software
conversion,
so
this
would
be
to
get
new
accounting
software
it
and
the
other
piece
of
this
would
be
to
tie
that
software
in
with
some
human
resource
HR
software,
it
would
make
sure
that
they
tie
together
and
with
that
you'd
have
your
tie
up
from
your
payroll
to
your
your
your
people,
so
that
those
kind
of
would
go
together.
So
there's
any
questions.
B
Is
a
little
separate
from
that
I
think
eventually,
we'll
see
some
more
tie-in
like
a
document
type
that
would
tie
in
with
this
I
believe
in
the
nineteen
budget
is
Rob.
I,
know
I,
think
Rob's
here,
but
I
think
there's
kind
of
a
public,
I
guess
I
would
say
public
works
type
software.
Is
that
correct?
That's
in
the
budget,
for
was
that
a
nineteen
that
you
guys
yeah,
but
then
I
think
Building
Services
had
a
piece
of
it
that
you
approved
as
well
as
I.
B
Don't
know
if
and
yeah
I
don't
know
if
engineering
and
Spencer's
not
here,
but
so
that
one's
kind
of
going
to
be
separate.
But
no
there
is
talk
that
whatever
we
pick,
the
focus
will
be
on
the
finance
side
of
it,
but
we
would
look
for
it
to
have
a
document
type
for
our
agreements
and
and
stuff
like
that.
Yes,
yep
I.
G
Will
say:
haven't
worked
with
them
prior
to
being
on
the
council
and
in
seven
years
on
the
council,
light
I
really
do
believe.
We
are
we're
on
the
short
side
of
that
stick
as
far
as
what
we
have
four
tools
to
use.
I
think
it
makes
it
very
difficult
at
times
from
a
council
standpoint
and
I
know
they
work
to
get
us
information
and
I
know
it
it's
difficult
from
there
and
sometimes
to
do
that,
and
certainly
document
control
is
a
huge
issue
for
us.
G
B
B
No,
no
changes
to
that.
The
next
department
was
the
information
technology
department.
As
I
said,
a
Spencer
can't
be
here,
I
think
he's
kind
of
covered
most
of
this
kind
of
before.
So,
if
there
is
any
questions,
I
know
Pete
is
available,
but
if
you
guys
don't
have
any
questions
as
far
as
this
I
guess,
we
could
could
move
on
okay
and
then
we
will
move
into
the
police
department.
I
know,
chief
mcpeak
is
here
so
if
he
wanted
to
come
up
and
just
say
a
few
words
about
his
department.
N
I'm
sure
thank
you,
as
you
can
see,
from
our
budget
they're.
Really.
The
only
thing
we
have
hanging
out
there.
That's
over
50,000
is
the
purchase
of
our
four
patrol
cars.
We
had
originally
had
three
for
the
2020
period,
but
we
increased
that
to
four
because
we're
only
getting
one
this
year
so
Scott
and
I.
We
took
a
pretty
hard
look
at
our
fleet.
The
mileage
we're
pretty
confident
that
we
get
by
with
four
for
2020
in
the
following
years.
N
There
may
be
some
final
years
where
we
can
actually
go
back
to
three
cars,
but
for
now
we
want
to
leave
it
at
four
cars
per
year,
just
to
get
us
back
on
track
again
and
then
the
other
thing
in
there
was
Spencer
put
in
car
computers
back
in
there
again
for
five
years
out.
We're
gonna
replace
those
in
2019
five
year,
lifecycle
on
those
MDT's
that
are
in
the
in
the
cars.
So
we
put
that
placeholder
in
there
for
fifty
two
thousand
five
hundred
and
then
down
at
the
bottom.
N
N
Originally
a
couple
years
back,
we
started
putting
some
things
out
there
that
we
we
need
to
replace
like
carpet
and
vinyl
the
carpets
been
lookin
flying
fine,
we
get
it
cleaned
twice
a
year.
It's
got
my
visit
again.
He
works
real
close
to
our
facility
maintenance
person
and
we're
confident
we
push
that
out
to
2024
so
Kristen,
if
you
wanna,
if
they,
if
the
council's
okay
with
moving
that
and
I,
would
recommend
that
and
I
think
that's
about
it.
N
What
that
amount
includes
Adam
is
cars
and
equipment,
so
we
have
a
little
room
there.
So
when
we
bit
out
the
cars,
we
know
what
they
are
each
year
and
then
we
go
look
at
the
car.
Does
it
need
a
light
bar?
Do
we
have
money
left
to
buy
light
bars,
need
radio
and
we
kind
of
work
with
the
numbers
we
have
left.
So
140
will
get
us.
The
four
cars
for
sure
and
then
what's
left,
is
what
we
used
to
replace
some
of
the
equipment.
That's
needed
in
the
cars
and.
N
G
The
reason
why
I'm
askin
is
I'm
questioning
why
we
went
I
could
see
where
we
would
jump
up
your
number
in
2020
to
four
cars
and
maybe
even
2021,
but
to
remain
at
four
cars
after
that.
Are
you
anticipating
growth?
Are
you
in
in
the
number
of
cars
or
why
would
we
do
that
when
the
numbers
and
the
mileage
the
life
cycle
says
it
should
be
three?
The.
N
Main
reason:
Mike
to
answer
that
question:
is
it's
a
placeholder
for
the
years
out,
we'll
take
a
look
at
that
if
we
increase
staff,
we're
gonna
increase
one
next
year.
Hopefully,
if
that
all
gets
proved
through
I'm
gonna,
look,
try
and
keep
doing
one
a
year
see
how
far
we
can
get
with
that.
But
the
plan
is
is
when
we
put
these
placeholders
out.
N
There
is
Department
adds
this:
how
I
kind
of
do
it
I
look
at
next
year's
for
2020,
and
if
we
don't
need
the
four
cars
we
reduce
that
line
to
what
we
really
need.
We
don't
just
put
it
out
there
and
say
well:
we've
put
in
four:
let's
get
four:
we
we
get
what
we
need,
so
if,
if
we
did
for
a
year
by
the
third
year,
we
may
only
need
three
that
year
so
we'll,
probably
and
reduce
that
down
to
three
that
year.
L
A
K
Just
to
comment
to
the
council
I
had
an
opportunity
to
get
kind
of
a
technology
tool
with
officer
Van
Deusen
recently
in
the
card
and
the
9-1-1
center.
If
you
haven't
done
that,
I
just
want
to
encourage
you
to
do
that.
It
gives
you
a
really
good
perspective,
what
the
officers
are
dealing
with
on
an
ongoing
basis
and
how
on
how
the
technology
plays
a
role
in
their
day
to
day
job
yeah.
Thank.
A
A
B
P
Okay,
so
this
is
a
this
is
kind
of
a
schedule
about
what
our
equipment
the
years
are
for
fire
trucks,
and
things
like
that.
The
first
item
that
we
have
in
2024
295,000
is
a
tender
truck
and
that's
what
we're
replacing
right
now,
it's
actually
a
the
truck
itself
is
a
2002
freight
truck
that
we
bought
off
surplus
in
here
on.
We
bought
it.
P
I'm
I,
want
to
say
in
2006-2007,
so
it
was
an
old
I
think,
an
old
freak
truck
of
some
sort
used
by
the
government
that
wasn't
really
a
chassis
that
was
made
for
fire
trucks.
At
that
time
they
took
a
tag
axle
and
put
on
there
for
the
weight,
because
we
we
carry
a
2500
gallon
gallon
tank.
This
tank
that
we
mounted
on
this
was
mounted
on
two
tankers
prior
to
this
one.
So
the
tank
itself
is
probably
about
I'm
only
guessing
35
years
old,
because
it
was.
P
It
was
on
the
truck
lanai
when
I
started
31
years
ago,
and
it's
starting
to
show
some
age
a
little
bit
and
some
integrity
on
the
tank
itself.
But
my
point
is
it
was:
it
was
really
never
designed
as
a
as
a
fire
truck.
It's
got
a
high
center
of
gravity.
We're.
We
concern
ourselves
a
little
bit
with
the
the
sharing
of
the
truck.
If
we
ever
gotten
to
an
accident
broke
a
tie,
rod
or
something
if
this
would
go
into
the
ditch.
P
You
know
this,
this
tank
full
of
water,
would
it
would
it
actually
shear
off
the
the
chassis?
Basically,
that's
that's
some
of
my
concerns
with
it.
P
P
I
would
have
a
lobe.
It
would
actually
be
a
custom-built
truck
and
have
a
low-profile
tank
on
it.
This
tank
would
serve
our
nine
townships,
327
square
miles
and
keep
in
mind.
It
also
serves
anything
greater
than
a
thousand
feet
from
a
from
a
city
hydrant.
So
when
I
say
a
County
truck,
it's
really
any
any
structure.
Fire
any
type
of
fire
that's
greater
than
a
thousand
feet
from
a
hydrant.
So
this
is
our
water
source.
We
drop
out
a
tank
and
we
we
dump
that
tank,
and
then
we
go
get
more
water.
P
That's
one
option:
it
does
have
a
small
tender
pump
on
it
as
well,
so
we
can
fill
trucks
and
things
like
that.
So
what
we're
looking
at
as
a
new
concept
for
this
truck
is
to
combine
two
trucks
right
now
we
haven't,
we
have
engine,
two,
that's
just
being
replaced
taken
out
of
line.
We
do
use
that
truck
right
now
as
a
reserve
pumper,
because
it's
it's
a
1989,
but
the
maintenance
on
the
truck
will
be
an
issue
before
too
many
years,
and
so
we
don't
want
to
stick
a
lot
of
money
into
that
truck.
P
Most
of
you
have
seen
that
truck
and
the
pump
is
working
okay,
but
our
concern
is,
it
won't
be
around
as
a
reserve
pumper
all
the
time.
So
we
went
to
our
apparatus
committee
team
and
we
we
looked
at
some
different
options
and
one
thing
that
we'd
like
to
do
on
this
new
truck
is
to
put
put
a
regular
structure
pump
on
this
truck,
and
we
could
do
that
for
that
295,000.
P
What
this
truck
would
do
in
the
future
for
us
is,
it
would
be
a
safe,
low-profile
truck
that
would
still
act
as
a
tanker
in
the
county
anywhere
greater
than
a
thousand
people
in
the
hydrant,
as
well
as
it
would
be
a
reserve
pumper
for
the
city.
Thus,
we
could
get
rid
of
our
original
tank
or
the
2002,
and
we
could
get
rid
of
the
engine
to
that.
P
So
the
other
thing
that
we
do
also
do
is
within
five.
What
for
the
ISO
is
within
five
Road
miles
from
a
fire
station?
We
if
we
bring
4000
gallons
of
water
to
that
site,
they
will
get
a
reduction
in
their
insurance.
So
there's
a
lot
of
there's
some
areas
that
have
some
really
nice
structures
within
five
miles
of
water
tone
that
are
not
part
of
our.
You
know
our
city
limits
and
are
further
out
than
a
thousand
feet
from
a
hydrant.
P
D
P
All
right,
moving
on,
let's
see,
let's
see
I,
do
have
also
in
twenty.
Let's
see,
I
think
go
up
to
go
up
a
little
bit.
Twenty
twenty-two.
We
have
a
rescue
truck.
This
is
a
this
is
a
light
rescue
pumper.
What
this
has
is
our
extrication
equipment
on
it
and
as
a
small
pump
on
it.
This
this
truck
here
will
go
out
to
car
accidents.
It
will
go
out
to
the
interstate.
It
takes
a
lot
of
those
types
of
calls.
P
It'll
really
reduce,
reduce
the
wear
and
tear
it's
staffed
with
two
individuals:
two
firefighters,
not
not
for
three
or
four
like
an
engine,
and
what
we
really
get
concerned
about
is
getting
our
big
structure
pumper.
Our
nice
combination
pumper
too
far
out
of
the
city
limits
like
on
an
interstate
accident
where
it's
where
we
need
a
truck,
and
so
what
we'll
do
is
we'll
we'll
bring
this
we
get.
P
We
get
it's
built
like
an
ambulance,
it's
like
a
type-1
one-ton
chassis
under
it,
so
it's
smaller
in
size
in
it
and
it
gets
there
faster
over
longer
distances
and-
and
we
don't
worry
about
sending
too
many
staff
out
in
in
one
of
our
being
engine.
So
it's
really
a
great
tool,
and
that
is
a
that
would
be
replacing
a
2,000
year
so
in
2022.
So
any
questions
on
that
one.
P
If
not,
then
the
other,
the
other
one
I
do
have
is
further
out
in
2024
and
as
mentioned
before,
this
would
be
a
replacement
of
a
1998
brush
truck
right.
Now
we
have
that
in
as
a
placeholder
we
have
an
apparatus,
maintenance
plan,
a
replacement
plan,
and
we
review
all
these
on
a
year-by-year
basis,
so
that
one
may
may
or
may
not
have
some
flexibility
depending
on
the
maintenance
and
what
we're
what
we're
doing
so.
We
track
all
that
really
close.
So
that's
the
three
items
on
the
fire
side
and
I'm
moving
down
to
2023.
P
We
have
a
place
marker
in
there
for
a
nice
fire
station
at
2.25,
our
250,000
2,250,000,
and
so
with
that
we
we're
currently
just
right
now.
We
know
it
needs
to
be
somewhere
east
on
the
east
side
of
town
we've
had
maps
with
circles
of
the
one
and
two
mile
circle
is
also
the
road
miles
to
two
point,
one
to
two
miles
and
two
to
two
and
a
half
to
five
miles,
and
we
know
that
we
have
a
lot
of
growth
out
by
the
interstate.
P
So
we
do
know
that
in
the
future,
at
some
point
there
will
be
a
need
for
that
that
fire
station.
We
know
that
we
we
are
currently
just
right
now,
all
we're
doing
is
looking
for
land
and
starting
to
look
at
this
would
be
a
very
small
substation
and
right
now
we're
just
looking
for
land.
We
had
direction
to
look
at
city
land,
that's
what
we're
doing
right
now.
If
we
can
get
somewhere
near
the
the
first
avenue
extension
that
we
can
get
onto
the
interstate
into
the
industrial
parks
and
the
commercial
areas.
P
P
No,
that
the
west
fire
station
actually
houses
the
RF
trucks,
the
yellow
crash
trucks
on
one
side
of
it,
as
well
as
our
state
response
equipment.
So
the
truck
rooms
are
much
larger
on
that
one.
This
one
would
have
smaller
truck
rooms
and
then
the
living
facilities
I
think
we
can.
We
can
tone
down
on
not
only
on
the
living
facilities
but
on
the
truck
rooms.
A
P
Believe
so
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
like
everything
else.
What
we're!
What
we're
basing
us
on
is
some
some
increases,
as
well
as
what
fire
stations
around
South
Dakota
have
been
built
for
in
towns
like
Rapid
City,
Sioux,
Falls
Aberdeen.
So
we
kind
of
watch
that
a
little
bit
as
a
as
a
as
this
thing
develops
in
years
and
stuff.
We
would,
we
would
actually
get
some
better,
solid
numbers.
So,
right
now,
I'd
say
it's
it's
fairly.
Accurate
I
believe
Bruce
Doug.
P
I
think
we
can.
We
can
actually
work
through
some
of
that
stuff.
We
got
our
plan,
you
know,
so
some
of
that
equipment
could
be
moved
from
from
the
other
station
and
stuff
I
believe
the
ambulance
could
be
moved
from
the
other
station,
the
the
pumper
we
do
have
a
pumper
somewhere
in
the
distance.
Don't
remember
quite
limb,
but
we
do.
M
J
P
J
J
G
G
Most
of
that
is
just
taking
some
from
here
up
there,
because
you're
already
servicing
some
of
that,
and
that
would
probably
be
true
with
some
of
the
personnel
as
well
correct,
possibly
yeah,
and
this
would
be
just
so
that
everybody
knows,
with
this
station
at
times
be
in
a
brownout
situation,
that
it
would
be
a
planned
Brown
out.
If
you
know
how
we've
had
yes,
other
locations
is
that
is
that
a
fair
statement
that
is
a
first
name
and
there's
a
lot
of
times.
P
Is
basically
there's
nobody
left
at
the
station
air
out
on
an
emergency
call,
so
they
will
they'll
Brown
out
that
station.
It
could
also
be
browned
out
for
a
24
hour
shift
if
there's
something
major
going
on
or
something
more
rare,
but
it
could
actually
be
browned
out.
If
a
city
is
is
in
in
some
financial
hardships.
P
They
then,
if
they
close
that
station
for
30
days,
it's
called
it's
actually
called
a
blackout
and
sometimes
they'll
they'll,
rotate
brownouts
throughout,
like
the
larger
city
and
they'll,
rotate
them
on
a
day-by-day
basis
and
and
recoup
their
staff.
So
the
jurisdictions
will
change
on
a
daily
basis,
but
sometimes
those
are
short-term
things
like
during
during
tough
years,
so
well.
G
P
Cause
the
brown
any-any
structure,
fire,
obviously
or
staffing
was,
is
all
going
to
report
to
that
structure.
Fire
and
basically
every
station
except
for,
but
the
the
airport
would
be,
would
be
browned
out
at
any
given
time,
and
if
we
backfill
right
now,
we
backfill
it
into
the
main
station.
So
we
would
never
backfill
a
substation,
so
yeah,
okay,
so
okay,
and
so
that
is
all
I
have
on
the
fire
side.
Any
other
questions
all
right,
I
know.
A
J
P
You
know
what
what
we're
really
we
we
monitor
response
times
and
what
what
it
would
do
is
I
know.
We
know
that
our
response
times
out
there
are
eight
roughly
eight
to
11
minutes
on
average
towards
that
interstate
in
those
industrial
parks
and
so,
and
we
know,
would
knock
it
down
to
probably
about
five
minutes
on
some
of
those
areas.
So
you
know
you're
talking
more
like
that
three
to
five
minute
response.
So
what
we're
dealing
with
right
now
is
just
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
staffing.
P
P
J
My
concern
is
with
Tareq's
building
their
new
facility
and
we
have
potential
a
couple
new
hotels
going
them
out
there
as
well
as
some
building.
That's
that'll,
be
you
know
going
in
it's
just
the
you
know.
The
response
has
plus
as
close
to
this,
the
interstate
with
the
amount
of
accidents
that
are
on
the
interstate
and
and
I'm
sure
that
you
guys
take
over
you
know
over
the
year
that
2023
just
seems
like
it's.
You
know,
maybe
that's
right
at
the
very
edge
of
we.
J
P
In
the
at
the
end
of
the
year
in
our
report,
when
we
come
forth,
we
always
from
this
point
on
with
our
new
software,
we're
able
to
break
down
all
of
our
calls
and
our
response
times
averages
and
things
like
that.
So
we'll
be
able
to
do
all
that
on
an
annual
basis
and
give
you
whatever
information,
you
need
yeah.
J
P
Okay,
so
if
no
other
questions
on
the
fireside
up
on
the
amylin
side,
what
we
all
would
really
have
on
that
is
a
couple
couple:
ambulances,
one
in
2020,
I'm,
sorry,
one
in
2021
that
would
actually
replace
a
2009
type
3,
which
is
the
van
chassis
with
the
square
box.
We
use
them
on
transfers
and
stuff
and
that
140,000
would
be.
We
are
we're
gonna,
look
at
the
consideration
of
a
remote
at
that
time,
so
so
we'll
be
looking
at
that
in
2021,
also
in
2023.
P
That
would
be
one
of
our
type
ones
our
new
four-wheel
drives,
and
that
would
replace
in
a
2013
these
ambulances.
We
have
five
ambulances.
We
try
and
purchase
one
every
other
year
for
a
ten
year
rotation
so
that
that
vehicle
serves
us
for
ten
years
and
moving
slowly
into
the
the
reserve
mode
and
stuff
and-
and
we
put
on
about
seventy
thousand
miles
a
year
roughly
on
our
rigs
I-
think
a
little
higher
now
about
seventy-five
this
year.
A
B
Q
There
see
as
you'll
notice,
the
2020
budget
year
is
pretty
pretty
well
stacked
with
that
really
comes
down
to,
and
we
can
make
some
adjustments.
I've
looked
at
some
of
our
equipment
and
we
look
at
it
every
year
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
move
stuff
around,
because
each
year
we
have
big
changes
in
our
equipment.
What
our
equipment
needs
are.
Q
So
it's
it's
kind
of
hard
to
project
forward,
but
last
year
and
this
year
we
had
1.1
million
dollars
in
cuts
and
equipment,
almost
800
thousand
this
year
and
three
hundred
sixteen
thousand
last
year
I
mean
this
is
equipment.
If,
if
you
guys
get
a
chance,
you
should
come
over
and
take
a
look
at
some
of
our
equipment.
You'd
understand
why
we're
in
need
of
some
of
this
stuff,
if
we're
gonna
continue
to
try
to
have
the
level
of
service
set,
that
the
city
expects.
Q
But
I
did
do
some
adjustments
here,
which
I
was
able
to
drop
down
for
the
20
20
year
down
to
675
K
by
cutting
one
of
the
trucks.
If
you'll
see
there's
300,000
shown
for
truck
and
Sanders,
we
could
cut
150,000
out
of
that,
and
also
we
have
up
at
the
top.
We
have
one
hundred
ninety
five
thousand
for
a
loader.
We
are
currently
I'll,
be
coming
to
you
next
Tuesday
for
approval
of
one
new
loader,
and
then
you
guys
have
approved
for
19
loader,
which
I
think
we
can
push
back.
Q
Our
other
two
loaders
are
still
in
decent
shape.
I
think
we
can
won't
continue
to
work
with
those
until
we
start
to
have
problems
that
they're
beyond
repair
but
anyway,
so
that
would
take
it
to
675
k.
If
we,
if
we
cut
the
one
truck
out,
got
that
three
hundred
and
a
half
and
take
the
195
out
for
a
loader
for
2020
robbery,.
Q
The
I
was
gonna,
go
down
the
line
each
year,
but
that
195
would
move
out
to
2022
for
the
loader
and
the
the
sander
truck
plow.
The
150
would
move
over
to
2021
and
then
we'll
get
into
the
snow
part
of
that.
But
we
do
have
pretty
consistent
requests
for
trucks
with
plows
and
Sanders
in
the
snow
budget.
Q
So
that's
why
we
were
able
to
move
stuff
around
there
in
our
current
trucks
like
last
year
and
this
year
with
two
of
our
trucks
two
years
ago
we
replaced,
but
we
were
able
to
give
the
second
truck,
that
we
replaced
to
Park
and
Rec
this
year
and
we
gave
them
one
last
year
and
they're
making
use
of
those
vehicles
too.
So
that
definitely
helps
across
the
board.
Rob.
J
Q
Q
We
would
give
them
to
use
during
the
summer,
because
we
didn't
need
as
many
trucks
in
the
summertime
as
we
do
in
the
winter,
but
once
we
were
replaced
or
we
got
two
new
trucks,
we
were
able
to
give
them
that
permanently
so
they're
able
to
leave
their
set
up
for
flowers
in
it
year
round
and
then
the
other
truck
after
citywide
cleanup
we
used
at
this
this
year
and
we
gave
it
to
parking
racks.
So
they
do
have
that
other
truck
right
now,
so
I
mean
we're.
Q
Making
other
departments
are
making
use
of
those
trucks.
As
we
go
to
and
I
know
the
landfill
mike
has
expressed
to
they.
Could
you
know
at
times
they
could
use
another
truck
too.
So,
let's
see
and
then
for
2021
I
was
able
to
reduce
that
from
six
hundred
thirty
five
thousand
by
actually
the
ELC
two
lines.
One
is
dump
trucks
and
one
is
trucks
with
Sanders.
That's
the
same
thing.
Basically,
it's
other
than
the
trucks
up
above
were.
Q
We
will
originally
have
that
line
to
not
have
plows
and
Sanders,
but
all
the
trucks
were
getting
I
prefer
to
rig
them
up
with
plows
and
Sanders,
at
least
the
hitches
and
plows
on
the
front,
because
to
put
that
on
later
on,
a
truck
is
expensive.
It's
just
better
to
do
upfront,
but
anyway,
you'll
see
in
there.
Let's
see,
we
still
had
three
hundred
thirty-five
thousand
for
the
tractor
with
mole
or
I'm
sort
of
motor
grader
and
then
on
the
bottom.
Q
Q
Q
So
that's
what
we've
done
you
know
normally
in
the
summertime
budget,
you
want
to
ask
for
Sanders
and
plows,
but
we
need
that
on
our
trucks,
moving
forward
the
trucks
we
do
have
that
don't
have
plow
hitches
on
the
front
and
the
sander
setups
they
get
used
in
a
summer.
They
can't
be
used
in
the
winter
other
than
hauling
snow,
but
we
want
them
to
be
universal
because
we
do
switch
stuff
around
depending
on
our
needs
like
when
we
let
other
trucks
go
to
other
departments.
Q
J
Q
Q
Q
Yeah,
that's
actually
that's
a
lease
kids
here
and
that's
when
that
shows.
Let's
see,
we
show
that
for
2020,
that
is
a
least
get
steering.
Basically,
we
would
like
to
get
into
just
owning
both.
So
we
just
let
that
lease
go
back
and
actually
I'm,
currently
working
with
her
Kisan
that
97
skid
steer.
We
still
have
because
we
still
have
that
as
a
lease
unit.
Q
Q
Yeah,
we
probably
could
have
bought
that
twice
a
lot
more
than
twice
five
or
six,
so
that
I
want
to
go
back
and
I
want
to
purchase
the
equipment
rather
than
any.
Q
But
when
it
comes
to
the
electronic
attachments
for
the
electric
over
hydraulic
controls,
that
becomes
a
nightmare,
that's
difficult
and
we
had
quite
the
experience
with
volvo
when
we
actually
got
the
cold
planer
on
the
front
of
this
other
skid
steer
and
it
doesn't
change
over
like
we
did
a
demo
with
a
Kubota
a
few
weeks
ago
and
to
get
that
to
switch
over
to
the
Kubota
is
a
wiring
nightmare.
You
have
to
have
a
special
harness
made
for
it,
so
it
can.
Q
It
can
be
done,
but
it's
it's
expensive
and
it's
not
as
simple
as
you
would
hope.
So,
if
it's
just
switching
a
bucket
or
something
something
mechanical
like
that,
it's
not
a
problem,
they
all
interchange,
but
when
it
comes
to
anything,
that's
electric
over
hydraulic
controls
and
it
gets
more
complicated.
Q
You
know,
plan
on
that.
Yeah
I!
Believe
it's
better.
If
you
do
at
least
generally
it
can,
you
can
do
three
year
leases
on
skid,
steers
and
well.
You
can
do
any
any
lease
you
want
basically,
but
you
really
would
have
no
need
to
go
under
a
three
year
lease,
so
it's
possible
to
do
that,
but
we
would
stay
on
top
of
it.
What
we
currently
have
there
is
at
least
that
or
an
agreement
that
goes
clear
back
to
1997
and
evidently.
Q
J
G
Q
M
Q
G
G
Q
Which
would
bump
that
up
from
three
hundred
sixty
five
thousand
to
five
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
and
then
twenty
twenty
three
twenty
four
twenty
twenty
four
is
pretty
stacked
again,
but
we
moved
the
motor
grader
or
I'm
sorry
yeah
motor
grader
back
to
2023,
so
that
would
take
us
to
395,000
am
I
thinking
right.
There.
Q
So
some
of
this,
like
I,
say
this:
it's
been
a
big
adjustment
because
we
had
a
lot
of
equipment
this
year
that
that
needed
to
get
pushed
back
and
somewhere
we
still
have
those
needs,
but
it's
you
know
we're
reevaluate
in
all
of
our
equipment
and
I'm
trying
to
see
if
we
can,
what
I'd
like
to
do.
I
just
had
our
do,
come
down
and
do
an
inspection
out
all
of
our
motor
graders
and
I.
Just
actually
today
signed
off
on
the
bills.
Q
I
know
it's,
but
we
get
reports
with
those
that
tell
them
tell
us
what
we.
What
we
need
with
what
kind
of
things
were,
having
we're
issues
with
that
type
of
thing,
so
that'll
help
moving
forward
like
I,
say:
I,
don't
have
all
that
information
here
in
front
of
me,
but
that'll
help
moving
forward
to
do
these
inspections
and
find
out
exactly
what's
you
know
what
we
can
expect,
it's
anybody's
guess
if
a
transmission
or
an
engine
or
drivetrain
is
going
to
go,
go.
Q
Basically,
the
three
335
thousand
moved
back
to
2023
and
that
would
help
us
balance
out
a
little
better
than
what
we
what
we
had
there.
That's
a
long
ways
out.
It's
really.
It's
really
tough
to
evaluate
equipment
that
many
years
out,
because
I
mean
this
stuff
gets
it's
heavy
equipment.
It
gets
used
with
heavy
dirt.
You
know
you're
moving
heavy
materials
and
one
year
it
seems
like
it's
good
and
the
next
year.
They
have
catastrophic
failures.
So.
A
Q
Strike
the
300
and
in
place
of
the
300
on
the
truck
and
Sanders
150
and
that
should
come
out
to
7:00
or
I'm,
sorry,
675
thousand
and
then
2021
just
strike.
The
300
at
the
top
and
put
the
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
under
trucks
and
Sanders
with
snow
flowers,
and
that
should
come
out
should
reduce
that
635,000.
Down
to
four
hundred
and
eighty
five
thousand.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Back
in
2015
I
think
it
was
the
first
year
that
I
asked
for
that
to
be
put
and
Shelley
had
asked
that
we
put
that
out
as
far
as
the
long-term
laws
and
I
did
that
so
really
yeah,
that's
sneaking
up
on
us
that
time
is
really
kind
of
rolled
along,
but
I
have
not
made
adjustments
to
that
number.
Since
I
went
through
all
the
initial
calculations,
because
I
did
do
some
pretty
heavy-duty
homework
at
that
time,
so
that
number
I'm
sure
has
changed,
but
I
guess
I.
A
Q
But
that's
probably
not
a
good
number
yeah
I
would
assume
that
number
to
be
different.
I
actually
spent
some
time
with
the
director
of
Equalization
to
get
land
values
at
that
time
and
different
areas
of
town.
Some
like
we
got
some.
We
had
some
values
of
out
by
the
wastewater
plant.
What
that
land
had
went
bore
for
and
what
values
in
the
downtown
area
would
go
for
and
I
don't
have
that
information
with
me,
but
but
it
was
pretty
detailed
on
how
it
came
up
with
that.
Q
What
we
would
need,
I
think
I
had
calculated
8
or
10
acres
if
I
remember
right
and
what
the
cost
would
be
to
purchase
that
land
based
on
the
information
I
got
from
the
Director
of
Equalization
and
then,
as
far
as
a
building.
If
I
remember
right,
it
was
$160
a
square
foot
at
that
time,
based
on
great
construction,
had
built
a
new
facility
in
and
Clear
Lake
South
Dakota
for
the
d-o-t
and
really
their
facilities
set
up
really
nice,
it's
decent.
It's
got
most
of
stuff.
Q
We
would
need
other
than
wash
Bay,
which
is
something
we
could
really
use.
So
that's
how
I
arrived
at
those
those
costs?
The
only
thing
with
that
facility
in
Clear
Lake
they
had,
they
had
fuel
tanks,
on-site
which
we
would
not
have
so
that
drove
that
cost
up,
but
they
do
not
have
a
wash
Bay
in
that
facility.
Q
When
I
worked
in
the
engineering
department,
who
actually
some
of
those
types
of
buildings
and
stuff
we
did
and
how
is
the
landfill
building
out,
there
actually
worked
on
those
plans
for
Mike's
department
many
years
ago,
and
we
did
most
that
stuff
in-house
I
believe
we
can
do
our
design
work
in-house
based
off
of
what
the
d-o-t
is
doing.
We
can
get
their
plan
information
and
that
that
thing
they're
willing
to
share
that
with
us,
I've
already
asked
so
I,
don't
believe
we
need
to
really
dive
into
engineering
fees
next
year.
G
A
couple
things
this
assumes
there's
today,
that's
always
assumed
a
new
building
at
a
new
location,
correct,
correct,
yeah.
Second
thing
is
I
want
to
say,
maybe
even
last
year
at
this
time,
there's
really
from
what
I
understand,
there's
one
impetus
for
sure,
and
that
is
your
need
for
space
etc.
But
the
second
is:
there's
been
some
I
won't
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
want
to
call
it
communication,
some
level
of
interest,
let's
say
by
Lake
area
tech,
for
acquiring
that
land
for
future
growth-
is
that
that.
Q
Q
When
when
Steve
Thorson
was
mayor,
he
did
talk
with
the
the
the
school
staff
I
I
wasn't
in
on
those
meetings.
We
did
have
an
appraisal
done
at
that
time.
Actually,
Stanton
Fox
had
had
hired
their
appraisal
to
be
done
for
the
property,
so
we
do
have
an
appraisal
on
that
from
I
guess
that
would
be
two
or
three
three,
maybe
even
four
years
ago.
Q
So
there
is
some
information
there
and
the
school
did
at
that
time
show
some
interest
I,
don't
know
if
there,
if
that's
changed,
I
can't
tell
you
that
for
sure
I
I
would
think
with
all
the
expansion
they
have
going
on.
Our
five
acre
location
has
about
3.4
acres
that
we
could
build
or
could
be
built
on,
that's
outside
of
the
floodplain,
but
there
is
part
of
that.
The
floodplain
runs
right
through
our
facility,
but
it
is
a
five
acre
facility
and
we
have
certainly
outgrown
it.
We
don't
have
enough
space.
Q
We
have
a
lot
of
expensive
equipment
that
sits
outside
and
not
only
that
we
have
no
room
really
to
stockpile
more
than
we
have.
We
is,
if
you
ever
come
into
the
area
and
drive
through
you'll,
see
just
there's
just
not
enough
room.
We
want
to
be
able
to
stockpile
some
of
our
own
materials,
such
as
millions
as
right
now.
Doug
has
been
gracious
enough
to.
Q
A
It's
the
follow-up
to
your
coming
like
I
guess.
I
would
encourage
that
that
we
have
that
communication
sign.
Oh
I
was
we
were
those
that
were
in
the
council
last
couple
years.
We
had
that
conversation
in
the
past
and
I
think
we
need
to
continue
that
to
have
that
conversation,
because
it
probably
helps
both
sides
out.
Q
Would
really
like
to
pursue
that?
You
know
by
that
time,
if
possible,
I
know,
budget
constraints
could
push
that
back.
That's
the
way
things
go
so
it's
you
know
we
there
is
things
that
I'm
really
pushing
for
and
a
wash
Bay
would
be
nice
or
our
equipment.
We
have
this
expensive
equipment
and
we
have.
We
really
do
not
have
a
good
way
to
wash
it
in
the
winter.
In
the
summer
we
just
pull
it
outside
and
wash
it.
But
when
we
come
in,
you
know,
I
was
at
PWX
with
the
mayor
here.
Q
The
last
several
days
and
I
talked
to
a
lot
of
different
organizations
and-
and
we
talked
about
snow
and
ice
and
that
type
of
thing
and
there's
there's
organizations
that
require
all
their
equipment
to
be
washed
because
of
the
salt
that
we
handle
and
the
chemicals
to
be
washed
after
every
snow
event.
And
if
you
come
over
and
see
some
of
our
equipment,
I
mean
we
fight
rust
because
of
salt.
Q
Q
G
On
that
topic,
my
recommendation
would
be
to
leave
it
there,
but
I
think
in
the
relatively
near
term.
We
have
to
have
discussions
knowing
what
we're
going
to
do
with
that
property,
and
you
know
lati
or
the
school
district
are
obviously
the
the
first
ones
that
we
want
to
have
those
discussions
with.
So
I
think
you
know
Rob.
Maybe
you
know
when
the
mayor's
back
to
to
have
that
discussion
with
her
and
coordinate
those
meetings.
I
think
that
would
be
important.
Q
And
that's
that's
the
changes
that
I
I
think
we
can
get
by
with
our
trucks,
get
used
less
than
they
used
to
because
of
the
motor
graders
with
the
snow
gates,
but
by
you
guys
that
allowing
us
to
add
a
staff
member
come
January
1,
that's
going
to
help
we'll
have
another
person
and
a
sander
truck.
So
that's
good
for
us.
It's
good
for
everybody!
So.
E
K
B
T
In
the
cemetery
department
were
looking
at
staggering
out
the
years
for
ongoing
road
projects
out
there
we
do
get
a
lot
of
travel
and
in
the
cemetery
and
the
roads
are
in
pretty
tough
condition.
We
are
doing
a
project
this
current
year
and
then
we're
just
staggering
out
additional
projects
in
the
simultaneous
years
going
forward
and
then
the
other
where
it
says
new
office.
At
one
time
we
talked
about
a
new
office
that
is
an
historical
building,
so
it's
a
little
difficult
there.
So
tom
would
actually
prefer
an
addition
shop
addition.
J
T
Yeah,
it's
an
in
discussion
right
now.
We
decided
to
get
rid
of
the
dollar
amount
and
work
on
the
shop
addition
and
just
look
at
that
project
being
that
as
an
historic
building,
because
that
does
that
quite
a
little
too
hooked-
and
we
really
haven't
done
research
on
that.
Yet
so
we
we
don't
have
a
dollar
figure
in,
for
that
and
Tom
seems
to
get
along
pretty
well,
even
though
it's
an
old
facility,
he
gets
along
pretty
well
in
there
Jay.
A
T
M
G
T
T
T
That
is
another
thing,
as
Rob
said
in
his
presentation
that
we
have
that
placeholder
money
out
there,
but
if
we
can
get
one
with
from
the
street
department,
we're
perfectly
happy
there
and
then
the
tractor
with
the
loader
for
junior,
as
we
have
moved
that
out,
I
think
a
year
or
two.
So
that's
what
we're
looking
at
in
forestry
and
then,
of
course,
it's
less
than
fifty
thousand
dollars,
but
we
always
will
continue
with
their
Boulevard
pre-program.
S
Said
I
know
so,
as
I
was
saying
good
evening
and
I
think
I'll
be
brief
here
with
the
changes.
I
only
have
one
item
on
the
capital
improvement
plan
and
those
are
the
is
the
budget
line
for
our
materials
budget.
So
all
of
our
physical
materials,
as
we
were
discussing
a
couple
weeks
ago,
books,
DVDs,
CDs,
audio
books
and
I-
didn't
suggest
any
changes
to
this,
as
this
is
based
off
a
3%
increase
from
what
the
request
was
for
2019
of
a
hundred
thousand
five
hundred,
and
we
all
know
what
happened
there.
S
A
S
B
G
T
Okay,
we'll
begin
with
rec
programs
and
the
only
item
we
have
in
there
is
pump
track.
We
have
discussed
what
a
pump
track
is
before
and
basically
it's
just
a
bunch
of
bumps
and
curves,
but
it
they
are
very
popular
and
they
would
accommodate
a
lot
of
bicycles,
the
Strider
bikes,
you
know
even
skateboards
and
strollers,
and
a
lot
of
different
things
and
we'd,
probably
kind
of
look
at
that
as
kind
of
a
phase
two
of
our
skate
park
area
over
there.
This
would
not
this
would
be
separate
from
the
skate
park.
T
They
won't
be
attached
in
any
way,
but
it
would
allow
users
in
that
area
another
avenue
of
opportunity
to
for
their
bikes
and
wheeled
vehicles
over
there,
and
this
would
be
it
would
be
primarily
dirt.
We
would
like
to
put
some
type
of
probably
not
concrete,
but
some
type
of
hard
surface
on
it,
so
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
maintenance,
but
they
are
very
popular
and
it
would
be,
and
I
should
addition
to
that
area
over
there.
J
T
T
J
T
J
M
G
Word
where
did
the
splash
park
go?
You
know
we
talked
about
that
in
the
past.
It
is
that
in
the
nineteen
budget
it's
gone,
isn't
it
it's.
T
U
We're
we're
in
the
last
budget,
year
of
being
a
but
I,
think
we're
out
of
carryovers.
So
we
do
need
a
notice
of
award
in
18
working
with
our
engineer
out
of
Lakeville
Minnesota.
We
do
have
a
follow-up
meeting
Tuesday
the
only
thing
left
out,
there's
a
few
front,
end
documents
and
utility
work
for
the
specification,
but
I
would
assume
it
would
be
advertised
for
bid
in
October
which
will
get
us.
The
project
probably
do
a
substantial
completion.
A
K
H
If
they
want
to
be
driven
to
the
pool
they
can
go
or
if
they
want
to
ride
their
bike,
er
any
of
those
kind
of
things,
but
that
whole
area
of
town
doesn't
have
that
most
of
them
are
latchkey
or
they
are
alone
in
the
summer.
They
don't
have
anyplace
to
go.
That
doesn't
cost
any
money
right
now,
and
so
there
is
nothing
on
that
into
town
except
the
pool
and
it
costs
money.
There
are
a
lot
of
single-family
houses
around
there.
H
H
H
That
Park
would
mean
so
much
to
the
people
who
live
there
and
it
would
also
probably
help
their
property
values.
I.
Think
we
wouldn't
have
any
bicycle.
You
know
Chop
Shop
rings.
If
the
kids
had
something
better
to
do
and
I
guess,
I
really
would
like
to
just
put
in
a
plug
for
the
fact
that
there
are
people
there
in
that
neighborhood
who
would
value
and
need
something
to
do
that,
doesn't
cost
money
and
that's
my
two
cents
worth
on
that.
U
And
on
the
location,
there
was
I
believe
we
had
eight
finalists
locations
and
a
lot
of
them
had
a
lot
of
the
city,
property
or
park
property.
The
utility
cost
for
what
our
budget
was
for
the
amount
to
bring
sewer,
to
bring
water
to
those
sites
really
ate
up
the
budget
quickly,
with
only
one
hundred
sixty
five
thousand
total
budget.
U
U
And
I
do
see
honestly
in
the
future.
You
know
we
talk
about
the
the
plows
uptown
with
the
splash
park
in
it.
These
are
things
that
they
seem
like
high-dollar
mounts,
but
for
the
value
in
them,
I
can
see
in
a
10-year
plan
having
two
to
three
within
the
community.
You
know,
starting
with
Nelson
and
moving
our
way
to
two
north.
U
B
U
Okay,
golf
course
quickly
up
top
in
2021,
replacing
in
2009
fairway
more
and
then
2024
replacing
the
2012
fair
fairway
more.
So
those
are
our
large
equipment
purchases.
Moving
down
to
the
212
plan,
the
200000
is
a
curio
ver
that
was
cut
for
fiscal
year.
Nineteen
that
is
part
of
our
vision,
master
plan
out
there
right
now.
It's
slated
for
the
green
projects
to
update
the
last
three
push
up.
Greens.
U
We
are
not
100%,
I
won't
call
it
convinced,
but
we
are
trying
some
different
maintenance
methods
on
our
greens
coming
up
real
soon,
where
to
see
how
the
Greens
react
to
those
before
we
invest
a
large
sum
of
money
and
replacement,
that's
what
it's
slated
for,
but
as
with
any
city
rec
facility,
we
obviously
have
another.
Many
other
needs
for
that
money
as
well
out
there.
So
the
placeholder
money
right
now
at
200,000
is
slated
for
replacement
of
three
greens,
which
I
believe
are
blue
red
and
red.
Nine
blue.
U
Go
there's
a
lot
of
greens
out
there,
so
any
questions
on
I
guess
I
can
keep
going
here.
The
clubhouse
road
closures
been
in
here.
For
you
know
this
is
probably
going
on
six
seven
years
of
this
plan.
What
that
would
do
is
that
be
preempted
to
the
clubhouse
remodel.
If
everybody
knows
the
road,
you
know
that
row
that
cuts
right
between
the
car
storage
and
the
golf
course
one
safety,
huge
safety
factor
with
golf
actually
growing.
Again.
We
prefer
to
loop
that
road
back
on
South
Lake
Drive.
U
U
We've
had
all
the
meetings
over
the
years
and
it
and
it
does
come
with
two
sides:
I
mean
who
we
talked
to
it
depends.
You
know,
from
safety
to
working
with
the
police
department
working
with
the
neighbors.
Everybody
has
a
different
opinion,
but
we
feel
safety
as
now
has
gotten
to
be
that
the
huge
thing
that
we're
gonna
look
at
not
so
much
for
more
space
for
us,
but
it's
really
becoming
I.
Think
councilman
Dan
for
it's
gonna
test
to
that
as
well.
G
Well,
I'm,
just
saying
I
mean
you
get
you're
gonna
have
a
safety
issues,
no
matter
where
you're
at
and
but
that's
some
that
I've
been
aware
of
for
a
number
of
years
and
they've
watched
for
both
personally
and
you
know,
as
far
as
I
travel
back
and
forth,
and
it
as
well
as
as
others
go
back
and
forth.
I
just
don't
see
it's
not
ideal.
If
we're
going
to
design
it
today,
we
would
not
design
it
like
that.
But
I
really
question
whether
that
there's
a
real
safety
need.
G
U
Kind
of
where
I'm
at
the
potential
is
definitely
there
I
mean
with
the
card
starting
out.
Is
it
a
fatal?
You
know
a
fifteen
mile
an
hour
and
the
speed
limits
every
now
and
then
you
hear
the
brakes
lock
up
out
there.
We
haven't
had
an
incident
to
this
point.
You
know
going
back
to
ten
twelve
years
when
we
said
a
safety
committee
intact.
You
know
it
was
turned
down
at
that
point.
U
You
know
they've
followed
your
argument
that
we
didn't
see
enough
of
historical
data
to
to
do
a
road
closure
that
came
with
a
lot
of
pushback
from
the
residents
to
the
north.
You
know
now:
you're
looping
I
can't
remember
the
car
count,
but
it
was
substantial
going
around
that
loop
so,
but
this
was
step
one.
If
we
were
ever
going
to
look
at
a
club
house
remodel
for
a
clubhouse
tree,
placement
was
to
designate
that
whole
area
as
part
of
the
campus,
so
I
guess.
Obviously,
as
a
council.
U
G
But
it's
2020
coming
up
quick,
you
know,
and
you
know,
I
think
they're
I'm
not
sure
how
we
we
qualify.
It
because
I
think
it
needs
to
be
qualified,
because
you
know
if
I'm
gonna
spend
a
hundred
fifty
grand
quite
honestly
I'd
rather
put
it
into
the
building,
then
to
put
it
on
a
road
that
we
perceived
to
be
a
problem.
May
not
be
you
see
where
I'm
coming
from.
G
U
I'll
bounce
off
from
the
safety
aspect,
which
I
felt
was
the
number
one
when,
when
this
was
in
here,
you
know
the
argument
was
always
safety
going
to
the
other
angle.
Here
is:
if
cattle
crossing
wants
to
consider
in
the
future,
whether
that's
long
ways
out
five
ten
year
plan
to
do
something
with
the
clubhouse.
That
would
be
the
only
option
for
space
that
we
would
have
would
be
to
move
that
take
advantage
of
that
road
space
to
build
a
new
clubhouse.
U
U
G
Knowing
that
something's
coming
behind
it,
then
to
do
it
and
not
know
if
and
when
we're
going
to
get
a
new
clubhouse
or
what
that's
going
to
be
I
guess
I
would
rather
look
at
what
what's
the
plan,
then
that
would
necessitate
the
moving
of
the
road.
Unless
some
we
can
come
in
and
demonstrate
that
there
is
a
safety
problem
and
I,
don't
maybe
Todd
and
Levi
are
much
more
aware
of
it.
Then
I
am
I
not
coz
out
there.
U
T
T
U
U
Been
in
and
out
of
the
budget,
probably
two
three
times
since
I've
been
here,
we
know
we're
running
out
of
space.
I
know
we
lose
events
because
of
dining
actually
and
the
council
did
approve
in
and
Capitol
for
tables
and
chairs.
Now
cuz,
we
do.
You
know
all
our
post
events
outside
sure,
I'm
under
a
tent
or
tables
and
chairs.
You
know
if
we
want
to
look
at
the
mentality
of
we
put
our
money
on
the
course
and
the
clubhouse
you
know,
I,
don't
think
we
truly
Adam
have
a
time
frame.
U
We
just
know
space
is
not
of
the
essence
out
there,
whether
no
matter
what
you're
there
for
whether
it's
you're
an
employee
trying
to
you
know
our
golf
pro
trying
to
store
items
whether
you
want
to
enjoy.
You
know
we're
not
a
you
know,
we're
a
drive-in
type
of
Dentistry
and
I.
Guess
again
going
back
to
my
you
know,
most
of
time
your
League
nice
things
like
that
we
have
sufficient
dining.
You
know
we
have
pride,
20
cheers
to
countertop
and
seating
for
probably
20
25
and
the
the
back
room,
but.
U
J
Guess,
I
I
would
move
that
Clubhouse
road
closure
actually
I'd
move
it
out.
If
it
was
me
until
we
get
a
plan
as
to
when
we're
going
to
look
at
replacing
the
club
offs-
and
maybe
that's
maybe
that's
2024,
but
we
can
always
put
it
back
in
there
versus
just
kicking
it
down
down
the
road
until
we
hopefully
have
a
plan
in
place.
So
and
that
way
we
can.
You
know
we
got
something
to
kind
of
squared
away
and
we
have
a
master
plan.
This
is
what
we're
looking
to
do.
J
We
have
to
do
the
road
closure
this
year
so
that
we
can
do
a
clubhouse
deal
the
following
year
or
whatever,
maybe
and
I'm
not
looking
to
you
know,
move
any
money
out
of
your
budget
or
anything
I'm.
Just
looking
at,
let's
be
realistic
about
it.
Let's
get
it
get
a
hard
number
on
it
and
get
her
plan
and
we
go
from
there
and.
G
G
I,
don't
care
what
you
do
122,
but
I
think
we
need
to.
We
need
to
blow
the
dust
off
the
plan.
Just
that
may
have
existed
as
far
as
a
site
plan
see
if
that's
even
pertinent
anymore.
We
need
to
start
those
talks
so
that
we're
buying
into
a
a
project
that
makes
sense
overall
and
not
just
this
with
maybe
see
what
comes
later.
I
would
that's
how
I'd
rather
look
at
it.
There
I
think.
J
U
And
then
in
2022,
the
hundred
thousand
upgrade
to
the
main
in
shaft,
just
like
the
symmetry
would
be
an
addition
to
the
amount
of
equipment.
Same
thing
rob
is
saying
we
have
some
very
expensive
equipment
being
stored
outside
this
is
strictly
in
addition,
I
believe
it
was
I,
believe
24
foot
by
the
width,
so
whatever
I'm
sure
it
said
even
or
even
construction
number
so,
but
that
would
be
not
a
new
building.
Just
in
addition
to
the
existing
golf
shop
2023,
another
150,000,
placeholder
money
I
cannot
identify
what
that
project
would
be.
U
U
U
Okay-
and
that
would
be
one
thing
if
we
found
the
room
with
the
new
addition-
you
know
that
I
will
I'll
call
it.
An
eyesore
would
be
able
to
probably
go
away
because
we
are
looking
at.
You
know:
bunker
storage
for
a
lot
of
that
equipment.
What
else
Todd
says
you
know
are
saying
things
like
that
right
now
are
stored
outside
you
know,
which
can
packs
it
when
it
rains
things
like
that,
so
we've.
M
E
A
U
G
G
E
U
A
T
Before
we
move
forward
to
softball
baseball
in
previous
years,
we
have
had
a
project
for
the
family,
Aquatic
Center.
That
would
be
next
in
line,
and
we
have.
We
were
talking
about
a
speed
slide
for
$230,
our
two
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollars.
I
should
say
we
came
to
remove
that
out
of
the
budget
detectives,
we
didn't
know
how
everything
would
fit,
and
then
we
talked
about
some
improvements
to
the
lazy
river.
But
as
we
followed
up
in
these
discussions,
we
never
really
put
a
placeholder
dollar
amount
into
the
long-term
for
the
family.
T
Aquatic
Center
and
just
should
probably
have
some
consideration
because
you
do
want
to
do
something
on
a
regular
basis
to
kind
of
refresh
the
facility
over
there
and
I
guess
we
probably
had
an
on
the
stair.
You
got
another
idea.
We
probably
don't
know
what
that
is
for
right
now,
but
it
would
probably
nice
to
have
some
placeholder
dollars
in
the
bucket
somewhere.
E
U
Part
of
part
of
our
when
we
master
planted
out
about
six
years
ago.
The
next
thing
after
that
in
water
playground
that
we
achieved
three
four
years
ago
was
a
slide,
and
this
230,000
was
in
the
budget
and
we
decided
when
we
met
with
Kristin
and
the
mayor
that
we
didn't
have,
we
didn't
feel
a
slide
was
really
the
way
to
go
anymore,
so
we
pulled
it
so
to
your
question,
Glynn
majority
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
do
that
we
can
do
being
landlocked
or
right
around
that
$200,000
range.
U
You
know.
That's
typically,
you
know
that's
about
what
that
playground
was
we
put
in
the
water,
it's
typically
what
a
new
slide
would
cost
it's.
It's
just
a
good
number
and
you
know
I
hate
coming
here,
not
having
a
project,
but
we
do
see
our
attendance
figures.
You
know
do
a
heartbeat
based
on
when
we
put
in
new
features
at
some
point.
After
five
to
seven
years,
the
kids
have
done
the
same
laser
ever
the
same,
slides
the
same
and
to
keep
that
attendance
and
revenue
flow.
U
B
G
U
Years
three
years,
I
would
say
you
know,
or
three
years
between
projects
is
our
average.
You
know
when
we
put
the
example
when
you
put
the
playground
in
with
the
big
dumping
bucket
of
here's,
what
I'm
saying
you
know
we
were
down
to
about
30,000
visitors
a
year
that
first
year
we
went
back
up
to
about
58,000
and
we
got
about
a
$8,000
or
$8,000.
G
U
Revenues
will
typically
not
increase
at
the
same
percentage.
You
know
once
somebody
buys
a
season
pass,
I
can
come,
but
we
do
see
more
day
fees.
Obviously
you
know
we
do
start
seeing
buses
come
from.
You
know
we
get
amount
of
video,
we
get
them
will
murder.
We
get
a
red
field
that
come
and
typically
you'll
see
them
come
the
first
couple
of
years
and
then
they
don't.
U
G
U
U
U
A
U
Lose
on,
but
we
also
would
maintain
our
revenues
versus
decreasing.
We
keep
that
gap
between
our
expenditures
and
revenues.
Very
close.
What
happens
when
we
don't
do
something?
We
start
getting
see
that
gap
get
bigger
and
bigger
and
bigger.
Now
we
put
something
in
at
rejuven
EC
interest
and
that
gap
shrieks
between
what
the
taxpayer
subsidy
would
be
for
the
pool.
If
that
makes
sense,
Adam
I
mean
it's.
You
know
we're
not
ever
gonna,
just
no
different
than
anything.
We
do.
U
A
T
Okay,
as
we
move
on
to
the
softball
baseball
complex
I,
just
wanted
to
mention
that
when
we
have
the
2019
budget
hearings,
we
talked
about
the
potential
for
a
while
out
at
the
premier.
Complex
I
have
made
some
calls
I.
They
haven't
got
any
numbers
back
to
me.
Yet
so
I
don't
know
where
those
numbers
are
at
so,
but
I
will
share
those
as
soon
as
I
know.
What's
going
on,
I
made
a
call
yesterday
and
they
still
didn't
have
the
numbers
together.
So
I
will
share
that.
T
Then.
Basically,
the
primary
project
that
we
have
in
2020
would
be
for
the
outfield
lighting
four
fields,
one
to
four:
it
cook
complex
those
heavily
use
fields
and
they're,
the
first
fields
that
were
ever
lighted
out
there.
So
the
poles
are
short.
The
the
lights
are
old-style
they're,
not
the
LEDs,
and
it
would
be
great
to
improve
those
those
lights
on
those
poor
fields
and
really
upgrade
the
facility
out
there.
T
J
U
U
U
Much
yeah
we
move,
we
move
the
majority
of
our
Park
and
Rec
age
out
to
cook
and
took
the
early
slots
that
Jo
used
to
have
so
a
lot
of
nights.
We
have
536
three
times
and
Jo
doesn't
start
till
7:30,
so
they're
starting
games
at
8:30
as
well.
So
usually
the
u6
gene
u18s
they're,
having
play
under
the
lights
so.
U
U
Well,
you
know
that's
the
hard
part
with
it
more.
We
youth
field,
they
like
the
actual
upper
fields,
the
original
one
through
four,
because
the
fence
links
versus
fields,
five
and
six
are
still
300,
so
they
don't
like
putting
you
know
a
you
fourteen.
You
know
a
growl.
Basically,
it
becomes
a
homerun
in
that
situation,
so
they
like
using
one
through
four
and
unfortunately,
that's
the
original
wood
pole.
You
know
incandescent
lighting
at
you,
know:
35
40,
foot,
poles,
no.
L
The
other
we
had
talked
about
potentially
digging
out
them
in
fields
at
some
point
is
the
electrical
run
through
the
fields
is
what
we
believe.
So,
if
you're
gonna
go
down
and
dig
dig
those
in
fields
out
and
put
a
deeper
base
in
or
we're
gonna
have
a
problem
there,
because
that's
that's
what
there
was
discussion
in
the
past
that
all
the
electrical
kind
of
runs,
electrical
and
plumbing
runs
through
right
through
the
infields.
We.
L
T
That's
why
we
have
that
project
out
into
2024,
cuz,
cuz
I
agree
to
the
field
for
the
field,
for
that
we
made
grass
in
field
and
put
the
lights
on
that
a
couple
years
ago.
That
gets
a
great
deal
of
use,
but
the
other
three
fields
for
nighttime,
not
very
often,
okay.
So
that's
why
it's
clear
out
there
and
you
know
something:
that's
probably
placeholder
money
for
other
projects.
G
Can
I
make
a
comment
on
that?
One
haven't
been
a
part
of
the
programs.
Are
there
and
running
those
programs?
Is
we
have
to
start
our
programs
earlier
because
it
gets
dark
and
you
don't
have
lights
to
play
on
there
in
that
inhibits
a
lot
of
people
from
being
able
to
get
out
there?
You
know
because
it's
we
have
to
start
so
early,
so
they
have
to
get
their
kids
out
there,
and
so
it
really
it
is
limiting.
G
Some
people
makes
it
difficult
for
them
to
get
there
as
early
as
the
baseball
programs
used
to
have
to
start.
I
can't
speak
for
it
today,
but
so
I
know
that
the
lighting
would
be
beneficial,
can't
tell
you
how
it
would
be
overall
John
in
regards
to
an
overall
priority,
I'm,
not
sure
where
those
numbers
are
at
today.
You
guys
are
probably
more
familiar
with
them,
but.
T
U
U
A
G
J
Know
that
we
own
that
land
to
the
west
of
it
and
if
you
know,
if
there's
an
opportunity
there,
that
we
could
put
it
in,
maybe
that's
something
that
could
be
another
foundation.
You
know
a
distant
foundation
without
maybe
it'd
be
an
unlighted
section
or
something
along
those
lines
or
long
term.
I,
don't
know
if
it's
an
enormous
like.
J
T
Okay,
well,
move
on
to
auditorium
field
house
and
mission
take
much
time
in
office.
Basically,
what
we
have
in
there
is
a
two-year
cycle
of
you
know,
depending
on
where
the
new
Ice
Arena
goes,
and
when
the
mas
ice
arena
will
be
no
longer
used
for
hockey
and
figure
skating
purposes
and
then
what
we
do.
Do
we
create
a
Fieldhouse
there?
That's
why
we
came
to
have
that
that
money
in
there
for
placeholder
money
to
see
that,
if
someday
down
the
road
that
will
become
a
Fieldhouse
for
Parks
and
Rec.
J
G
I,
don't
know
to
what
extent
that
you
have
determined
what
all
would
go
on
there
and
how
it
would
would
go
in
there
and
what
that
means
to
the
other
Fieldhouse
area
that
we
have
for
me
as
a
council
member
as
I
look
at,
hopefully,
eventually
voting
in
a
positive
way
for
a
new
ice
facility.
It
would
help
me
greatly
to
have
a
more
detailed
understanding
of
what
we're
gonna
do
with
the
facility.
G
I
know
that
one
of
the
things
that
was
tossed
around
a
little
bit
between
where
Thorson
and
I
when
the
pistol
range
kind
of
got
put
aside,
you
know
the
indoor
range
was
to
maybe
convert
part
of
that
building
to
a
pistol
range,
so
I
just
think
that
it
would.
It
would
certainly
help
me
justify
things
within
to
myself
and
to
the
community
if
we
could
say
here's
what
we're
doing,
here's,
what
the
need
is
versus
just
saying
we
gotta
do
something
with
that
building
and
we'll
put
500,000
in
across
two
years.
G
I
think
we
have
to
get
more
detailed
on
it,
and
I
would
just
ask
that
we
we
start
planning
towards
that
and
see
what
that
would
be.
I
think
it
could
be
a
big
benefit,
but
we
keep
adding
structures
that
we
have
to
have
operating
expenses
for
it,
and
that
concerns
me.
So
I
would
really
like
to
understand
what
we
plan
to
do
here
and,
if
at
all
possible
and
in.
U
So
that's
the
only
really
number
the
500,000
I
believe
had
like
a
hundred
seventy
thousand
for
a
for
insulation
and
heat,
because
that's
basically
a
non
insulated
Morton
building
and
it
did
just
simply
have
turf
within
the
arena
area
the
bleachers
removed
to
basically
have
different
types
of
activities
from
from
cardio
equipment.
To
you
know
different
stations
like
that
with
the
locker
room,
but
lean-to
being
ripped
off
the
building
well,.
A
U
T
Okay,
moving
on
to
the
zoo,
the
Animal
Care
Building
is
in
there
in
2021.
You
know,
that's
been
a
controversial
building
over
the
years,
but
basically
and
this
past
summer
our
strategic
plan
was
completed,
and
that
was
the
number
one
item
in
that
strategic
plan:
the
need
for
that
animal
care,
building
for
quarantine
and
rehabilitation
purposes,
and
that
type
of
thing,
and
also
it's
something
that
the
aza
has
deemed
a
requirement
for
the
zoo.
So
that's
why
that
is
plugged
into
the
2021
year.
T
And
then,
as
we
look
to
2023
I,
think
that
we
have
both
renovate
the
wolf
exhibit
and
then
the
Bison
walkway
I
really
think
we
can
combine
that
into
one
project,
probably
in
that
222
to
50
range,
because
the
idea
there
would
be
to
extend
that
bison
walkway
that
exists
now
and
tie
it
in
to
like
where
the
camo
are
now
and
tie
that
all
together,
so
that
there's
a
continuous
flow
as
visitors
come
and
use
the
zoo.
So
I
think
those
would
kind
of
be
grouped
together
into
one
good
project.
T
T
A
T
Okay
under
equipment
for
the
Ice
Arena,
that
would
be
an
additional
ice
resurfacer.
Currently
the
Olympia
now
as
it's
working
pretty
well
for
us
and
I,
would
imagine
that
as
long
as
we
continue
to
use
a
Mays
Ice
Arena,
we
will
use
that
piece
of
equipment.
But
when
we
go
to
the
new
facility,
we
would
look
for
another
ice
resurfacer,
a
new
one,
to
start
that
facility
and
then
use
the
existing
one
as
a
second
or
backup.
So
that's
kind
of
flexible
in
the
five-year
plan
as
well.
T
J
J
I'd
like
to
keep
that
in
2020
and
until
we
make
a
decision
on
that
Ice
Arena
I
know
those
things
are
expensive.
I
know
they
did
a
a
major
renovation
or
essentially
on
that
on
that
Olympia,
so
I
mean
it's
working
now,
but
you
never
know.
What's
going
to
happen,
I
mean
it's,
it
is
a
older
machine
so
and
they
are
not
exactly
cheap
and
maybe
we
can
do
Zamboni
rides
or
you
know,
try
to
make
some
money
on
that
row.
T
G
G
E
T
T
Okay,
where
to
park
system
in
there
each
year
we
get
the
recreational
trail
expansion
and
you
know
I
think
it
will
work
out
for
the
competi
loop
finishing
the
competitor
loop
on
the
recreational
trail
that
if
we
follow
a
plan,
we
should
be
in
pretty
good
shape
to
keep
that
$75,000
allotment.
That's
not
going
to
put
any
trails
and
other
areas
of
the
community
on
the
ground,
but
that
should
cover
the
plan
that
we
currently
have
for
the
competitive
loop,
Jay.
A
T
Then,
after
our
discussions
with
one,
we
had
the
2019
budget
hearings,
we
did
add
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
there
for
for
a
tree
speed
into
2021.
We
just
kind
of
kept
that
in
the
parks
system
rather
than
in
the
forestry
division,
because
it
will
be
used
throughout
the
parks
of
the
golf
course
and
that
will
be
use
throughout
the
department.
T
U
G
G
That
I
would
be
hesitant
to
stick
to
it,
a
grand
into
that
location
beyond
unless
you
can
get
some
more
room
somewhere.
Maybe
I'd
like
to
share
some
room
with
the
camels
or
but
I
mean
it
is
it's
extremely
tight
in
there
yeah?
That's
so
and
I
do
know
that
we
have
looked
at
as
a
city,
just
just
a
high-level
at
some
different
existing
or
coming
to
be
existing
facilities
that
might
serve
that
need
so
well.
G
U
T
Then
we
have
other
Park
development
and
park
lighting
projects
and
lacrosse
fields.
There
quite
a
ways
out
into
the
long
term
plan.
So
I
don't
know.
If
we
really
want
to
discuss
those
in
detail.
The
Sioux
River
campus
go
that's
kind
of
the
study.
That's
going
on
right
now,
that's
it's
in
our
budget,
but
it's
beyond
our
scope
and
some
of
it
too,
as
we
do
a
plan
for
lakum
Pesce
and
probably
also
the
Sioux
River
kind
of
a
beautification
plan
and
development
plan
for
those
waterways.
J
T
Yeah
and
as
we
move
to
our
last
Division
City
Park
in
camping,
there
are
projects
that
are
placeholder
money
in
there.
One
of
the
things
we
were
looking
at
in
the
2019
budget
was
some
funding
to
do
I'm
a
master
plan.
We
didn't
get
that
but
I
think
we're
going
to
go
ahead
with
that
master
plan,
because
we
just
want
to
put
something
together
to
do
it
right.
The
first
time
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
things
like
we
could.
T
We
have
comfort
station
replacement,
the
addition
to
camping
cabins,
different
things
like
that,
but
is
that
the
right
order,
you
know,
I,
think
we
want
to
put
our
plan
together
that
you
know
the
dump
station.
Now
it's
in
the
center
of
the
South
loop
of
the
campground,
not
a
very
nice
location
for
it.
Could
we
look
at
moving
that
out
of
the
park
onto
the
side
of
the
the
road
and
combine
that
with
a
fish-cleaning
station
campground
expansion?
Is
it
possible
cabins?
How
do
we
want
to
use
that
and
we've
had
like
this
year?
T
A
B
Okay,
the
next
the
next
one
to
look
at
is
actually
the
capital
improvement
sales
tax
fund.
That
would
be
fun
to
12.
That
has
the
majority
you've
seen
some
of
the
dollars
come
up
between
all
the
departments,
the
ones
that
we'll
look
at
now
are
this
more
of
the
street
systems
and
then
the
storm
sewer.
B
There
is
a
large
amount
of
stuff
in
here,
so
we're
gonna
start
at
the
top
and
go
line
by
line
I'm
kidding.
That
was
a
joke
just
kidding.
That
was
heath
suggestions,
so
Heath
wanted
to
do
that,
but
no
I
think
what
the
biggest
thing
that
I
wanted
to
just
point
out
is
and
I
did
want
to.
I
should
actually
point
out
the
other
thing.
Don't
look
at
the
sheet
in
the
book.
Please
look
at
the
sheet
that
everybody
was
handed
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
B
There
was
a
little
bit
of
a
shift
of
what
was
given
to
what
should
have
actually
been
in
there.
The
biggest
thing
is,
as
you
can
see,
for
each
of
the
years,
we
do
stay
pretty
consistent
between
Lake,
the
22.8
to
the
3.3
million,
and
that
is
currently
what
we're
seeing
the
first
year.
The
2020
is
a
little
high
and
that's
the
the
big
bridge
project
so
but
I
think
I'll.
Let
Heath
have
a
few
moments
to
speak.
Okay,.
F
A
I
I
If
we
don't
get
it
this
year,
we'll
get
it
next
year,
essentially,
but
yes,
that
is
how
the
big
grant
works.
If
we
commit
more
money,
we're
more
likely
to
get
it.
Vanessa
is
very
confident
that
we
will
get
that
80/20
match,
based
on
the
fact
that
the
funds
for
bridge
replacement
are
going
up
next
year.
K
The
d-o-t
Commission
approves
those
and
we
just
went
through
that
process
recently,
it's
very
formulaic
and
how
they
do
that
it's
a
scoring
system,
it's
very
objective,
they've
tried
to
take
the
subjectivity
out
of
it
too.
So
if
you
do
I've
seen,
projects
on
there,
it'll
be
50/50
in
the
course
on
that
particular
category.
Their
score
goes
up,
so
the
rules
are
all
laid
out
there.
It's
very
objective.
I
I
A
Iii
have
one
particular
one
specific
question:
it's
not
a
large
dollar
amount,
I'm
just
familiar
with
it,
midway
down:
42nd
Street
north
from
Golf
Course
Road
to
South
Lake,
Drive
hundred
thirty-two
thousand
okay.
What
is
playing
there,
because
that
was
just
milling
over
late
I
mean
just
a
few
weeks
ago,
or
what's
the
plan
out
there.
I
That
may
be
taken
off.
That
was
one
of
the
ones.
One
of
the
few
y-you
see
a
new
sheet
in
front
of
you
tonight.
Instead
of
the
one
in
the
packet
is
Heath
and
I
caught
a
kind
of
a
bust
before
Shane
left
he
kind
of
redid.
This
long-term
planning
based
on
the
I,
am
I
study,
and
what
we
found
is
that
he
moved
some
stuff
around
to
make
the
money
work
and
that
one
I
think
Rob
included
with
the
Mellon
overlay
this
year.
F
I
would
like
to
just
apologize
for
the
mix-up
on
the
sheet
from
what's
in
the
book
to
what's
in
front
of
you,
it
was
just
a
catch
that
Colin
and
I
came
across
the
day,
based
on
a
couple
questions
from
Kristen
actually,
and
we
were
able
to
comb
through
the
the
revised
individual
project
sheets
and
modify
this
chart
accordingly
here
on
short
notice
this
afternoon.
So
apologize
for
the
mix-up
there,
but
this
one
is
a
lot
more
accurate
than
the
one
in
the
book.
I
can
say
that.
G
In
Heath,
as
we
as
we
have
the
the
dollars
at
the
top,
you
know
that
that
are
pretty
specific
as
to
what's
being
done.
Not.
Where
does
that
tie
in
then
to
the
numbers
down
below
to
the
description
or
ma
if
I
pick
any
one
of
them
now,
one
of
them,
it
says
Gilbert
Avenue
from
West
End
to
11th
Street.
How
do
I
know
what
that
is?
Do
I
not
need
to
know,
or
is
that
just
is
that
what.
I
The
top
numbers
did
not
correlate
to
the
bottom
numbers:
their
projects.
Okay,
the
melon
overlay-
we
kind
of
go
through
that
each
year
and
turn
on
what
is
the
best
and
rock
that's
kind
of
robbed,
robbed,
sets
up
those
maps
and
unfortunately,
he
had
to
leave
tonight
to
talk
more
about
that,
but
that's
something
we
kind
of
set
as
the
time
rolls
around
for
the
next
year's
project.
I
So
we
will
go
over
that
this
winter
and
figure
out
where
our
melon
overlay
is
and
rob
has
really
taken
that
to
the
next
level
and
getting
maps
out
previously.
We
would
just
bid
it
out
and
then
tell
them
as
they
came
to
town.
What
were
they
were
and
then
the
same
with
the
sealcoating
and
rob
is
getting
better
quotes
now
for
the
city,
because
he
is
laying
out
those
areas
exactly
where
we
want
them
and
that
allows
the
contractor
to
then
give
a
better
quote,
because
they
know
exactly
where
they're
gonna
be.
G
I
Most
well,
the
ones
you
are
seeing
now
will
be
a
combination
of
storm
sewers,
sanitary
sewer
and
fold
reconstruction
or
minor
reconstruction.
I
guess
you
can
say
that
too,
but
beyond
the
mill
and
overlay
is
usually
how
okay,
that's
all
I'm
understanding
it
to
I.
This
is
my
first
time
going
through
this
book
actor
and.
B
V
A
V
V
At
least
that's
the
plan
at
this
point.
Okay,
the
$50,000
in
2020,
is
for
the
engineering
study
to
make
sure
that
that
facility
is
appropriate
for
that.
Okay,
so
between
2020
and
2023,
we
can
make
that
final
decision
on
whether
we're
going
to
do
it
is
that
the
proper
location
is
that
enough
funding,
or
is
that
too
much
funding
Newark
or
how
we're
going
to
handle?
That
is.
V
For
that
project,
I
am
looking
for
other
sources
as
well,
but
it's
one
of
those
things
that
we're
kind
of
first
in
the
state
to
do
that.
Oh
definitely,
first
in
the
state
sure
there
are
12
of
these
facilities
throughout
the
country
with
different
focuses,
then
a
lake.
But
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
this
is
basically
reach
the
same
results
that
the
city
of
Mitchell
is
trying
to
do
at
their
21
22
million
dollar
project.
Okay,
that's.
G
B
Okay,
any
further
questions.
Okay,
thanks
thanks
Roger,
the
next
department
we'll
be
looking
at
is
the
sewer
fund.
Mike
is
here
and
Mike
has
different
divisions
throughout
the
sewer
department.
A
couple
of
his
departments
or
divisions
hold
simply
some
equipment.
I,
don't
know
if
we
want
to
spend
too
much
time
going
over
his
equipment.
I.
Think
the
big
item
in
the
store
that
we'll
want
to
discuss
is
the
administration
building
but
Mike.
If
you
wanted
to
touch
on
any
of
the
equipment
or
if,
if
the
council
has
any
questions.
R
The
big
item
would
be
rate
evaluations,
I
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that,
the
importance
of
getting
on
doing
some
sewers,
always
rate
evaluations
and
then
and
then
Al
Erickson
was
HDR.
Who
did
the
space
evaluation
for
the
administration
garage
building
is
here
to
help
answer
questions
on
that
project.
R
That
unit
will
be
22
years
old
and
then
we're
thinking,
we'll,
probably
transfer
the
old
one
to
the
landfill
or
maybe
streak,
streak,
streets
or
parks.
Whoever
needs
it
worse,
but
here
we
use
this
thing
very
routinely
whenever
the
big
blue
truck
goes
out
and
just
sewers,
it
cleans
them.
It
comes
back
with
a
lot
of
grit
sand
and
debris.
R
It
rubs
dumps
but
septage
receiving
to
drain,
and
then
we're
constantly
hauling
the
stuff
to
the
landfill,
and
we
also
use
it
for
pulling
a
trailer
and
hauling
and
rings
and
coverage
during
the
annual
overlay
projects
when
we
raise
manholes,
so
it
gets
plated
videos
and
it'll
be
22
years
old.
At
that
point,
in
2024
we
have
a
televising
trailer
at
ninety
eight
thousand
four
hundred
dollars,
and
here
the
we
have
been
replacing
these
on
a
10-year
rotation
and
at
that
point,
they're
very
less
reliable.
R
You
have
frequent
breakdowns,
you're,
constantly
working
on
the
equipment,
and
so
we
get
less
footage
televised.
So
on
this
particular
unit
we
have
replaced
the
camera,
the
winch,
the
cable,
the
the
transporter
driver,
mortar,
multiple
times,
it's
a
very
corrosive
environment
down
there
in
the
sanitary
sewer.
So
ten
years
is
a
replacement
schedule
on
that
and
that's
working
for
us.
The
last
item,
then,
would
be
seventy
seven
thousand.
R
Five
hundred
fifty
dollars
and
that's
a
1994
Ford
small
backhoe-
that
we
bought
new,
we're
looking
at
replacing
that
and
that's
out
of
2024
and
so
we'll
take
a
look
at
that
as
it
gets
closer.
Do
we
want
a
new
order?
We
get?
Could
we
find
a
used
one
or
what
not?
We
use
it
quite
a
bit
in
the
winter
time
around
the
lake
lift
stations
to
get
the
snow
off
those
lift
stations,
and
there
are
no
long-term
capital
improvement
programs
above
fifty
thousand
here
in
in
the
sewer
collection
system.
R
We
do
no
digs
in
on
those
sewers
that
just
require
sleeves
and
liners
we'll
do
those
in
every
other
year.
So
we
just
kick
back
and
forth
with
that.
Moving
along
now
to
the
sewer
treatment
facility.
We
don't
have
any
equipment
replacement
or
50,000
and
20
or
21
and
22.
We
have
a
tractor
boom
mower
for
a
140
75.
That
unit
will
be
twenty
years
old
and
it's
something
that
it'll,
probably
get
pushed
back.
I
think
we're
taking
pretty
good
care
of
it.
R
So
when
you
do
a
lot
of
weed
Spring,
it's
kind
of
nice
to
be
in
a
cab,
the
staff
kind
of
appreciates
that
nothing
in
2023.
In
2024,
we
have
eighty
six
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars
for
some
Oh.
Twenty-Seven
there'll
be
twenty
seven-year-old
seals
and
gates
on
the
process
flow
channels,
and
some
of
those
are
leaking
and
we
do
need
to
replace
those
seals.
R
You
have
to
do
bypass
pumping
to
replace
those
seals
so
that
you
can
actually
isolate
certain
processes
and
so
forth,
and
so
that's
20
as
a
tone
of
26
Gate
valves
in
about
five
different
processes
that
need
to
be
replaced
that
are
starting
to
leak.
With
that,
a
twenty
to
twenty
down
below.
We
have
primary
clarifier
structure
repairs
under
the
capital
improvements.
R
This
is
a
budgeted
at
two
hundred,
ninety
thousand,
which
is
forty
thousand
for
engineering
and
two
hundred
fifty
thousand
for
construction,
and
that's
a
pre-designed
estimate
and
what
we're
gonna
do
in
2019,
as
we
will
have
a
structural
evaluation
done
on
this
clarifier
and
prepare
specifications
and
to
bid
this
work
out
and
the
tank
is
from
1960,
so
it'll
be
about
60
years
old
when
we
undertake
this
project,
but
the
it's
a
circular
tank
and
the
outside
channel
is
a
circular
launder.
It's
called
when
the
tank
overflows
or
discharges.
It
goes
over.
R
The
sides
that
whole
concrete
trough
is
breaking
away
from
the
take
itself
and
then
the
concrete
under
the
support
the
domes
are
covered.
You
know
the
big
aluminum
domes
have
seen
them
out
there.
The
concrete
under
those
is
breaking
out,
and
then
the
tank
and
the
submerged
equipment
was
last
quote
coated
with
like
a
coal
tar
in
like
1994.
R
It
was
the
the
finance
office
at
the
time,
just
adjusted
the
rate
structure
across
all
the
three
of
the
different
sewer
user
groups
to
accommodate
the
debt
service
on
the
head,
works,
building
and
equipment.
If
model
like
it
was
about
eleven
million
dollar
project,
so
we
had
to
adjust
rates
there
for
that
debt
service.
So
we
budgeted
fifty-two
thousand
for
this
evaluation.
R
So
they
have
a
higher
rate
and
and
then
we
have
surcharges
for
a
mold
higher
strength,
ammonia
biochemical
oxygen
and
suspended
solids
in
our
ordinance
1702.
We
we
assess
these
cost
and
then
we
distribute
them
equitably
to
those
different
groups.
So
if
you
have
a
stronger
waist
and
more
waist,
you
pay
proportionally,
and
so
that's
how
that
works,
and
so
I
would
say,
and
so
I
don't
want
to
talk
about
it.
R
This
is
something
that
we've
budgeted
for
to
design
next
year,
because
right
now
we're
at
a
conceptual
level
and
al
Erickson
with
HDR
who
completed
the
space
evaluation
is
here
with
me
today.
If
you
have
some
questions
but
on
this
project,
just
to
give
you
recap:
I,
don't
know
if,
if
you're
all
here
last
time,
but
you
want
me
to
recap
a
little
bit
about
the
you.
A
R
R
The
next
I
know
it's
love
tracker,
where
it
was
here
in
2022.
I
have
raw
wastewater
pump
rehabilitation
for
$200,000
under
the
right
there
under
the
capital
improvement
and
those
pumps
are
eleven
years
old.
That
was
that
head
works
project
and
so
these
pump,
these
pumps
are
actually
seven
foot
in
diameter
and
70
feet,
long,
install
that
an
inclined
or
Archimedes
screw
pumps,
and
so
they
have
to
be
coated
because
the
coating
protects
the
metal
from
corrosion.
R
And
so
this
is
a
big
sandblasting
coating
job
and
then
before
we
do,
it
will
have
the
manufacturer,
those
pump
to
come
by
and
look
at
all
the
bearings
and
all
of
the
seals
and
all
the
ready
equipment
to
see.
If
there's
any
other
repairs.
That
should
be
done
at
the
same
time
just
to
keep
these
this
equipment
writing.
There
are
no
items
in
23
and
24
under
industrial
pretreatment
and
a
way
for
our
laboratory
that
we
do
not
have
they're
not
not
shown
here,
because
nothing.
There
is
about
$50,000,
it's
all
small
potatoes.
R
So
with
that,
then
we're
gonna
jump
into
solid
waste
collection
weight
and
that's
for
30
to
30
and
under
the
long-term
equipment
replacement
schedule,
there's
nothing
in
2020
or
20
21,
but
in
2022
we
have
budgeted
to
five
hundred
thirty-eight
thousand.
That's
for
to
garbage
collection,
trucks
at
260
thousand,
apiece
and
again
short
story
here.
R
Mixer
it's
from
2006
budgeted.
Fifty
nine
thousand
for
replacing
this
unit
will
be
fourteen
years
old,
and
then
this
is
required
to
mix
and
spray
alternative
daily
cover
over
the
garbage
at
the
end
of
every
day
is
required
by
the
permit.
So
it
has
to
be
done
daily.
Another
big
item
here,
then,
would
be
the
compactor
in
in
2000.
We
have
a
in
2020
we're
getting
a
new
compact.
Now,
with
the
compactors
we're
doing
a
five-year
rotation,
we
buy
those,
and
we
have
a.
R
We
have
a
five
year,
guaranteed
buyback
in
five
years
and
ten
thousand
hours.
So
we
know
that
the
machine
that's
from
2015,
that
we
will
get
one
hundred
three
thousand
three
hundred
and
seventeen
dollars
for
that
machine,
which
goes
against
the
price
of
the
new
machine,
and
this
just
something
is
so
expensive
to
repair
every
one
of
these
we've
owned
since
I've
been
here
has
lost,
at
least
when
it
won
engine
their
work
so
hard
that
they'd,
it's
you
just
can't
really.
R
You
couldn't
afford
to
repair
him
if
you
didn't
have
a
five-year
warranty
and
have
that
covered
so,
but
what
it
does
is
it
achieves
a
maximum
compaction
of
the
waste
in
the
landfill.
So
it's
it
pays
for
itself
by
saving
landfill
space
and
right
now
we're
seeing
densities
of
like
1,600
pounds
per
cubic
yard,
which
is
just
great
with
the
GPS
and
the
Machine.
The
staff
actually
competes
with
himself
or
others
to
see
you
can,
you
know,
get
the
best
compassion
and
it's
it's
valuable
machine,
so
I
will
move
on.
Oh
one,
note
on
that.
R
This
is
the
one
item,
work
and
I.
Don't
know.
Kristen
knows
this
yet,
but
I
know
all
the
previous
finance
officers
do
we're
purchasing
this
in
2020
and
we
have
to
get
it
in
January
2020
before
the
guaranteed
buyback
expires,
because
you
want
to
sell
it
back
to
the
guy
you
bought
it
from
because
if
you
change
brands,
because
it's
a
little
bit
the
other
guy
doesn't
watch
your
used
compactor,
it's
that's.
They
just
don't
make
money
at
him,
so
we
will
actually
bid
this
in
2019.
R
R
Sometimes
we
trade
in
sometimes
we
transfer
them
to
other
departments,
and
we
use
that
we
use
them
daily
and
this
for
turning
the
compost
tube
to
the
yard
waste,
to
compost
it
pushing
the
waste
to
the
compactor
in
the
cell,
placing
woodchips
on
that
on
the
homemade
roads
we
have
in
the
land
field
for
all-weather
access
and
just
a
lot
of
different
things.
So
with
that,
then
we'd
also
have
a
a
solid
waste
rate,
evaluation
and
I.
R
Think
again,
it's
the
same
year
and
this
one
where
we
haven't
had
a
technical
review
of
these
fees,
where
you
can
really
project
your
long-term
cost
to
make
sure
you're
in
the
right
place
for
many
many
years.
Last
time
we
did
an
increase
in
April
of
2015,
we
bumped
the
residential
fee,
a
buck
and
the
tipping
fee,
three
bucks
and
the
$3.00
was
to
go
towards
land
acquisitions.
R
R
We
have
got
sixty
one
five
and
that's
to
do
the
survey
in
the
design
for
the
next
landfill
sale,
which
would
be
constructed
in
2022
and
2022.
We've
budgeted
one
meal
in
eighty
three
thousand
and
that's
kind
of
where
those
are
running,
but
we
will
update
that
number
with
the
design
the
previous
year.
So
we
get
into
construction
and
we'll
have
a
survey
done,
have
real
quantities
and
they'll
be
set
to
go
there?
Then
we
have
in
2023,
I,
says
final
cap
phase.
R
One
landfill
is
consisted
of
nine
cells,
we've
constructed
six
of
them
and
we're
filling
them
to
grade
and
then
above
that
waste
goes
above
grade.
But
at
this
point
at
2023
this
is
something
we
might
push
back
depending
upon
where
we
are
as
far
as
filling
the
landfill
or
utilizing
it,
because
what
we
do
with
here
this
cap,
we
put
the
final
cap,
whereas
we
have
six
inches
of
daily
cover.
R
We
have
to
build
a
two-foot
cap
over
all
the
closed
areas
of
the
landfill
and,
as
Kristin
knows,
we
said
the
state
requires
us
to
set
aside
a
large
amount
of
financial
asserts
that
we've
got
the
money
to
close
landfill
cells
and
monitor
them
for
decades
after
they've
been
closed.
Okay,
so
this
is
for
closing
15
acres
at
an
estimated
cost
by
Houston
engineering
of
twenty
six
thousand
six
hundred
sixty
six
dollars
an
acre,
but
it'll
protect
the
environment.
R
R
R
You
must
60,000
trade
in
and
that's
it
gonna
be
15
years
old,
and
this
is
the
machine
we
pull
behind
a
loader
and
it
just
spins
at
high
speed
and
it
flips
the
compost
and
to
aerate
it
because
it
needs
oxygen
to
breathe
for
the
process,
and
so
it
takes
a
beating
and
we're
welding
fatigue
cracks
on
this
machine
as
we
speak
and
it's
yeah,
it's
it's
gonna
be
up,
it'll,
be
15
years
old
and
and
hopefully
we'll
make
it
that
long.
And
then
we
have
a
1993
Peterbilt
tanker
and
we
bought
that
used.
R
17
years
ago.
We
used
to
have
to
haul
our
leachate
to
town.
Now
we
have
a
lift
station,
as
you
know,
so
this
is
used
to
water,
the
compost
to
keep
that
process
working
and
then,
if
the
lift
station
fails
were
required
to
not
surcharge
the
pipe
out
in
the
elite
8
system.
So
then
we
would
actually
haul
3,000
gallons
of
leachate
to
town.
If
the
lift
station
was
completely
out
of
service
Mike.
G
Can
I
slow
you
down
for
a
second?
Yes,
sorry
I
wanted
to
ask
the
question
about
the
the
composting.
It
is
that
typical
in
communities
our
size
I
mean.
If
we
go
to
any
one
of
the
larger
communities
it
is
that
what
is
happening
and
then
my
next
question
is:
are
we
getting
rid
of
that?
Every
year
I
mean
the
people
come
in,
getting
it
and
good.
R
Question
using
it
yeah
our
system
is
similar
to
a
lot
of
landfills
in
South.
Dakota
are
doing
the
same
thing.
We're
doing
ours,
I
think
is
a
little
bit
better
in
that
what
we've
got
does
we
first
say
even
in
Sioux,
Falls
they've
got
a
gravel
a
gravel
pad
and
we
have
at
some
point
the
state
decided
that
this
compost
runoff,
because
the
ammonia,
it
is
elite.
It's
not
just.
You
can't
go
to
storm
water,
so
you
have
to
capture
it.
You
need
an
all-weather
surface,
and
so
yes,
we're
all
doing
the
same
thing.
R
Maybe
a
little
variations,
the
type
of
equipment,
but
yes,
and
then
what
we
do
is
we
compost
all
the
yard
waste
into
compost?
We
stockpile
it
once
every
year
or
sometimes
every
other
year.
We
run
it
through
a
screen
to
take
out
debris.
Cuz
people
put
garbage
in
their
yard
waste
container,
sometimes
or
sticks
that
don't
compost,
you
know
all
kinds
of
stuff.
In
there
we
clean
it
up,
and
then
we
get
back
the
compost
to
the
residents
at
a
rate
of
two
tons
per
year,
free
of
charge.
R
After
that,
you
pay
$20
a
ton
for
it,
and
so,
and
so
we
we
can
use
some
decades
down
when
we
capped
that
landfill
parts
of
those
acres
in
the
landfill
we'll
use
some
of
that
to
work
with
the
soil,
because
it's
a
soil,
conditioner
and
enhances
vegetation,
so
we'll
use
some
of
it,
but
it
keeps
coming
in
so
we
got
to
get
rid
of
it.
So,
given
our
way
back
to
our
public,
his
is
alright
too,
though,
where
was
there?
Okay,
I
think?
Well,
that
was.
We
only
have
one
more
item.
R
That
would
be
the
compost
pad
Oh
same
same
thing:
now
we
have
a
compost,
asphalt,
composting
pad
that
settles
and
cracks
in
every
few
years,
and
this
time
in
twenty
twenty
two
will
be
eight
years
since
we,
since
we
rehabilitated
that
pad-
and
so
this
is
a
real
rough
estimate-
might
be
low,
given
the
cost
of
asphalt,
but
as
we
get
closer
to
2020
to
be
working
with
the
engineering
and
the
the
bids
on
the
milling
and
over
lake
is
and
and
we'll
get
a
firmer,
a
firmer
budget.
But
that's
what
that
is.
A
Any
questions
of
Mike
I
just
like
to
make
a
make
a
comment
for
people
that
might
might
still
be
watching
us
I,
don't
want
them
to
think
that
we
glossed
over
an
awful
lot
of
some
big
dollar
items
here.
It's
because
these
this
is
an
Enterprise
Fund,
which
means
we
have
a
method
to
pay
for
I
eat
through
our
our
utility
charges.
Yes,
so
it's
it's
not
coming
out
of
sales
tax
dollars!
R
A
I
told
Todd
that
that
he
could
take
off
reason
being
is
that
you
know
everything
that
we've
got
here.
For
the
most
part,
we
only
have
a
five
percent
match
that
we're
liable
for
and
Todd's
also
gonna
be
back
here
Tuesday
at
our
council
meeting
to
talk
about.
What's
going
on
with
the
terminal
project
out
the
potential,
so
I
told
told
Todd
that
he
could
take
off
when
we
had
her
break
here
so
I
think
down.
You
were
at
the
meeting
yesterday,
weren't
you
or
on
Wednesday
wondering.
K
I
participate
in
the
committee
along
with
Heath
and
Colin
Todd,
and
we
reviewed
the
proposals
for
design
of
a
new
terminal.
That
is
by
no
means
a
given,
but
as
we
heard
the
number
on
our
last
council
meetings,
there's
a
fund
of
a
bunch
of
funds
that
became
available
for
airports
across
the
country
and
and
we're
gonna
try
and
compete
for
one
of
those
to
see.
If
we
can
move
that
terminal
project
in
closer.