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B
A
C
A
By
Bill
Cowher,
second,
by
y,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying
name,
motion
carries
third
item
on
the
agenda.
Is
presentation
from
South
Dakota
Municipal,
League,
workman's
comp
fund
for
the
city
of
Watertown
for
30-year
anniversary
and
Kristin?
Would
you
like
to
introduce
our
guests?
Yes,.
E
Thank
You
Kristin
and
Thank
You,
mayor
and
council
for
allowing
me
to
come
in
tonight.
I'll
keep
you
on
on
time
here,
so
this
won't
take
very
long
but
I'm
Brad
Wilson
and
the
administrator
for
the
SDM
ell
workers.
Compensation
fund
I've
met
several
of
you
at
different
Municipal
League
meetings,
but
just
a
little
bit
of
background
and
what
the
stl
work
comp
fund
does.
We
provide
the
workers,
compensation
coverage
for
Watertown
and
one
hundred
sixty
two
other
public
agencies
in
the
state.
That's
all
we
do
is
provide
work.
E
Comp
covers
just
cities,
counties
conservation
districts
and
we
write
pretty
much
all
of
them
back
in
nineteen.
Eighty
seven
is
when
this
fund
was
started
so
we're
actually
in
our
31st
year,
but
because
of
the
blizzard
in
december,
I'm
behind
a
month,
so
we
actually
burn
our
31st
year,
but
we're
celebrating
our
30
year
anniversary
back
in
1987.
E
There
were
52
charter
members
in
the
city
of
Watertown
was
was
part
of
that
they
were
number
four
remember
numbers
number
four,
so
you
Watertown
has
been
part
of
this
fund
in
the
beginning
since
the
beginning
fast
forward.
Now,
to
thirty
years
later,
we
have
four
hundred
and
sixty
three
members
so
with
Watertown
be
and
they're
right
at
the
beginning
during
the
celebration.
E
The
reason
for
my
visit
is
to
present
the
city
with
a
plaque
just
recognizing
them
and
thanking
you
for
your
for
your
membership
and
and
long-term
membership
with
the
SDM
l
work
comp
fund,
and
one
other
note,
is
that
the
South
Dakota
Municipal
League
does
endorse
the
SDM
Oh
work
comp
fund,
as
well
as
the
the
County
Association.
So
without
further
ado,
if
the
mayor
would
mind
if
I
approach
and
present
the
plaque.
E
D
Thank
you,
I'm
requesting
council
approval
of
the
appointment
of
Christine
Crum
as
the
assistant
finance
officer
with
a
start
date
of
January
17th
tomorrow
and
yeah.
We
look
forward
to
having
her
as
part
of
the
team
and
she
will
be
attending
the
council
meetings
starting
in
February.
So
thank
you
very
good.
A
F
A
Number
five
is
ordinance
number
17,
48
amending
section,
21.5
4
of
the
revised
ordinances
of
the
city
of
Watertown
regarding
gt1
gateway,
overlay
district,
and
they
all
wait
for
a
motion
on
this
and
open
the
public
hearing.
First,
because
I
think
we
have
some
people
in
the
audience
that
want
to
talk
about
this,
so
the
public
hearing
is
open.
Is
there
well
before
we
get
to
that
Shane?
Do
you
want
to
give
a
summary.
G
Sure
Thank
You,
mayor
gateway,
overlay
district,
of
course,
is
a
intended
to
monitor
and
somewhat
dictate
the
appearance
of
buildings
along
the
east
portion
of
the
community.
As
people
come
in
off
of
the
interstate
or
into
the
community,
it
is
primarily
bounded
by
highway
212
on
the
south,
19th
Street
East
on
the
west
edge
and
Willow
Creek
drive,
10
and
a
sex.
It
actually
goes
to
the
quarter-section
line
north
of
highway
212,
but
the
primary
focus
of
the
gateway
overlay
district
is
to
enhance
the
appearance
of
the
structures
that
are
built
within
that
district.
G
So
we
did
put
together
a
community
of
staff,
council
members
and
Planning
Commission
staff,
and
thankfully
we
also
included
a
local
architect
which
greatly
added
to
the
context
of
the
discussions
and
gave
us
a
lot
of
things
to
consider.
As
a
result
of
that,
the
changes
to
the
Gateway
overlay
district
became
somewhat
significant,
but
not
not
over
in
cumbersome.
In
our
view,
the
Planning
Commission
did
review
these
ordinance
changes
and
did
make
some
changes
to
the
recommended
ordinance
and
that's
reflected
in
these
documents
as
well.
G
So
particularly,
there
was
a
accent
metal
percentage
that
was
recommended
at
15%.
The
Planning
Commission
voted
to
approve
a
20%
access
metal
component
for
the
anything
not
facing
the
rear
of
the
lot.
So
all
side,
yards
and
front
yards
would
have
the
restriction
of
20%
metal
components
on
the
front,
a
kind
of
quick
walk
through
the
the
changes.
If
you
put
my
screen
up
on
the
thing,
one
of
the
first
things
we
discussed
was
prior
to
this
review
review.
G
It
was
a
mayor's
planning
and
zoning
committee,
which
consisted
of
at
least
six
administrative
officials
to
be
a
quorum
that
reviewed
these
issues.
We
eliminated
that
committee
and
brought
these
issues
before
the
Planning
Commission
in
lieu
of
so
we
struck
items
three
and
four
of
21.5
402.
Accordingly,
then
we
can
perusing
through
the
rest
of
the
ordinance.
C
Before
I
forget
to
ask
the
question:
okay,
the
it
goes
to
Planning
Commission
or
without
them,
without
the
mayor's
commedia
goes
the
Planning
Commission
of
so
many
things.
They
have
a
strong
argument
for
exceptions
to
this
okay
from
the
Planning
Commission.
Would
it
still
then
come
to
us
then,
as
a
council
after
the
Planning
Commission
weighs
in
on
it
at.
A
Interpretation
can
be
done
by
the
Planning
Commission
and
it
doesn't
have
to
come
further
to
the
council
if
there's
ever
an
ordinance
change,
if
they,
if
someone
is
allowed
to
use
a
material
that
isn't
listed,
and
that
goes
to
the
Planning
Commission,
and
they
approve
that,
then
we
would
entertain
an
ordinance
change
so
that
it
applies
to
everyone.
Equally.
G
That
be
proposed
out
earth-tone
in
color
shall
be
furred
the
mayor's
planning
and
zoning
committee.
So
because
we
struct
out
that
community
that
that
whole
item
went
went
away.
Then,
of
course
the
numbering
system
changes,
but
we
did
do
a
lot
of
review
and
discussion
of
the
various
building
materials
that
are
available
to
the
community
and
and
that's
where
the
architects,
information
and
knowledge
carried
the
discussion
along
long
ways.
G
So
primary
point
of
review
was
item
J
on
here,
metal,
siding
and
it
does
allow
for
some
lap,
seam
metal
panel
or
sheet
or
corrugated
panels
are
allowed
with
certain
aspects,
for
instance
on
any
wall
facing
a
rear
yard
on
any
wall
facing
a
front
sight
or
side
yard
used
as
an
accent,
including
not
more
than
20%
of
said
wall
and
then,
of
course,
it
puts
a
restriction
on
there.
No
variance
may
be
granted
or
authorized
to
more
than
20%
of
any
wall
facing
front
or
side
yard,
utilizing
metal
siding.
G
So
that
was
some
good
clarity
that
was
provided
so
that
city
staff
and
the
Planning
Commission
have
some
well
set
rules
to
follow.
We
do
talk
about
another
component.
Here's
the
exterior
of
the
building
shall
have
a
varied
and
interesting
detailing.
Large
unadorned
wall
shall
be
prohibited,
50
feet
or
more.
This
is
identified.
G
Large
walls
facing
highway
212
and
any
public
street
must
be
relieved
by
architectural
detailing
such
as
a
change
in
materials,
changing
color
offsets
or
other
significant
visual
relief
provided
in
a
manner
or
at
intervals,
in
keeping
with
the
size,
mass
and
scale
on
the
wall
and
its
view
from
the
public
right
of
ways.
A
distinct
change
in
color
or
pattern
may
be
considered
as
a
change.
That
is
a
very
intentional
paragraph.
It
does
prevent
I'll
call
it
monotonous
views
along
the
site
of
a
large
building.
G
G
So
anyway,
I
was
reading
article
2
there
and
article
3
talks
about
materials
that
meet
purposes
at
these
regulations
and
designed
intended
and
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission.
So
that
was
a
clear
thing
that
that
it
does
need
to
go
to
the
Planning
Commission
for
any
variants
of
these
materials
that
were
discussed.
I.
G
H
G
H
H
C
G
So
the
only
board
in
the
community
that
can
override
the
ordinances
as
I
understand
it
is
the
City
Council.
So
if
there's
anything
that
would
circumvent
a
decision
by
staff
or
the
Planning
Commission
regarding
this
ordinance,
it
would
have
to
come
before
the
City
Council
for
amendments
or
approvals
or
something
other
than
you
know.
G
H
There
is
interpretation,
that's
in
here
and
there's
certain
levels
of
leeway
in
here
through
this
whole
document,
not
just
the
area
that
we've
primarily
focused
on
which
has
been
the
materials
right.
There
could
be
some
things
in
there
that
are
either
interpreted
or
a
leeway
given
or
not
given
that
could
come
to
question
and
when
that
happens,
what
happens?
What's
the?
H
What's
the
course
that
the
person
that
is
in
disagreement,
what
path
do
they
take
right
now,
if
you
for
setting
this
aside
plan
commission
items
and
may
not
deal
with
an
ordinance
change,
their
recourse
is
to
request
it
or
bring
it
to
the
council.
Like
my
own,
my
guess
is
that's
the
same
thing
we
would
do
here.
A
H
A
Don't
have
or
me
plan
commission
is
not
a
quasi-judicial
body
like
the
Board
of
Adjustment
is
so
an
action.
You
know
if
someone
is
appealing
the
higher
standard.
The
the
Plan
Commission
has
some
leeway
on
determining
if
it
fits
within.
If
it's
a
matter
of
interpretation
or
not,
and
if
the
plan
Commission
would
say
no,
it's
not
and
deny
it.
The
person
would
have
the
ability
to
appeal
to
the
council,
I
suppose
and
am
I
right.
Matt
yeah.
A
A
H
H
J
K
You
know
I'm
trying
to
remember
back.
If
we
had
people
come
to
us,
you
know,
Mike
did
we
have
folks
come
and
to
the
Planning
Commission
meetings
with
an
agenda
item.
That
said,
we
need
an
interpretation
on
this.
Do
you
recall
that?
Well
it
could
be
because
I
don't
that's
where
I
you
brought
it
up
and
I
think
that's
a
pretty
good
question:
how
that's
done
what's
the
process
for
making
an
interpretation
on
the
ordinance?
K
A
G
I
want
to
add
a
little
bit
to
that.
The
primary
goal
here,
I
think,
is
kind
of
being
lost
in
the
discussion.
There
was
concern
about
the
staff
and
a
small
committee
weighing
in
on
the
details,
for
whatever
projects
come
through
the
Gateway
overlay
district
number
one.
We
wanted
to
not
make
that
staff
decision
and
number
two.
G
Then
it
became
apparent
that
the
Planning
Commission
would
be
the
best
board
than
to
weigh
in
on
colors
what
the
appearance
looks
like,
etc,
because
we
enlist
people
from
all
over
the
community
that
have
different
expertise
is
regarding
those
type
of
things
are
interested,
so
we
didn't
want
those
decisions
to
be
made
at
a
staff
level.
I
think
that
was
a
key
component
here
is
that
you
know
we
wanted
that
decision
be
made
beyond
the
staff
level.
G
A
I
I
want
to
just
clarify
it.
Part
of
this
was
my
request
to
remove
the
mayor's
planning
and
zoning
committee,
because
it
consists
by
ordinance
of
the
mayor
and
five
or
six
people.
That
report
directly
to
the
mayor
and
to
me
that
is
I
mean
it's.
It's
kind
of
like
a
glorification
of
the
mayor's
opinion
on
an
item
and
I
didn't
think
that
was
appropriate
and
I
had
people
agreed
with
me,
and
so
we
take
away
the
mayor's
ability
to
force
something
on
the
staff.
A
It
just
is
ripe
for
misuse
that
part
of
it
is
changing,
but
we
could
have
left
in
the
part
that
says
anything
denied
by
the
plan.
Commission
may
be
appealed
to
the
Board
of
Adjustment,
because
that's
the
sentence
that
you're
concerned
about
was
it
used
to
be.
The
Board
of
Adjustment
could
then
take
an
appeal.
If
they
didn't
like
the
mayor's
committees
answer,
then
you
could
go
to
the
Board
of
Adjustment.
Now
we
took
that
away
because
we're
saying
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
Planning
Commission
is
the
Board
of
Adjustment,
so
yeah.
H
H
We've
done
the
right
thing
in
my
mind,
this
is
what
we've
done
to
take.
That
committee
way
to
me
is
the
right
thing
to
do.
It
makes
it
I
think
it
makes
for
a
better
decision
making
and
a
service
to
our
our
community
members
I.
Think
that's
the
right
thing
to
do.
My
only
question
is:
is
historically,
there's
always
been
a
path
for
remedy
of
disagreement:
okay,
whether
you've
they
could
have
allow
something
it
could
be
somebody
from
the
outside
that
says
no,
it
shouldn't
be
allowed.
H
So
it's
not
just
a
matter
of
them
agreeing
with
it.
It
could
be
somebody
that's
disagreeing
with
the
action
that
they
did
take.
It
may
not
be
the
request,
or
so,
but
that's
always
been
at
least
to
my
understanding
in
all
the
years
that
I
was
on
the
board
of
adjustments
and
plan.
Commission
was
if
it's
Board
of
adjustments,
the
decision
we
make
your
only
recourse
was
Circuit
Court,
but
anything
within
the
plan.
Commission
that
was
disagreed
to
your
recourse
was
the
council.
This.
H
C
J
H
A
Don't
know
that
we
say
explicitly
anywhere
in
the
actions
that
the
plan
commission
takes
what
the
recourse
is.
It's
understood
that
you
can
appeal
to
the
council,
but
generally
that
would
mean
we
think
there's
something
wrong
with
the
ordinance
and
we'll
look.
If
the
council
is
in
favor
of
you
know,
going
against
a
plan,
Commission
recommendation,
then
we
should
probably
be
looking
at
an
ordinance
change,
because
the
Planning
Commission
is
interpreting
the
ordinance
and,
and
the
only
reason
it
would
be
appealed
would
be.
If
it's
deny.
A
If
the
the
applicant
is
told
no
by
the
Planning
Commission,
then
they
would
take
it
to
the
next
higher
authority,
the
council
and
for
the
council
to
act
against
the
plan.
Commission,
that's
pretty
serious
business.
You
would
not
want
to
do
that
lightly
and
there,
because
the
Plan
Commission
in
good
faith
is
interpreting
what
the
regulations
written
by
the
council
say.
So
if
the
council
thinks
it's
wrong,
we
need
a
clarification
in
the
ordinance.
A
K
Shane
help
me
out
here:
let's
just
say
you
said
you
want
to
take
the
staff
out
of
this,
because
we
had
that
review
committee
if,
if
they
want
to
build
a
building
and
they're
talking
about
siting
like
we're
discussing
here,
if
they
bring
that
that's
gonna,
they
have
to
come
and
get
a
building
permit
correct,
correct.
Okay,
typically,
we
did
not
be
to
the
building
official
for
making
the
determination
whether
or
not
they
fit
into
the
ordinance.
K
K
Me
fluff,
let
me
just
finish:
if
we,
if
you
bring
it
to
the
building
official
building
official,
says
you
know,
Leroy,
that's
not
gonna
work,
there's
I
going
to
fit
that's
not
right
and
explains
why
that
is
then
that
person
would
have
an
opportunity
to
look
for
a
variance.
We
can't
we
go
in
that
direction
because
he's
not
a
according
to
the
building
official.
Like
anything
else,
he's
not
gonna
give
him
a
permit
cuz.
He
doesn't
he's
saying
he
doesn't
fit
in
the
requirements
of
the
ordinance
for.
A
K
K
It
can
choose
one
I'm.
Sorry,
Mary
I
disagree
with
you
on
that,
one
that
you,
if
you,
if
you
can
look
at
one
of
those
hardships
and
and
show
that
there's
a
hardship
out
of
those
seven,
you
don't
have
to
meet
them
all.
If
you
can
show,
there's
a
hardship.
It's
up
to
that
board
of
adjustments
to
make
the
determination
whether
or
not
that
person
can
move
forward
with
that
that
they
can
go
outside
that
ordinance
and
they'll.
Allow
the
variance
I
have
to
disagree
with
you
on
that.
G
I
make
a
recommendation
seems
like
a
lot
of
this
language
is,
or
discussion
has
been
related
around
the
area.
I
have
up
on
my
my
screen
right
now
and
that's
21.5
402
we
struck
out.
Of
course.
This
is
where
the
main
changed
from
the
mayor's
planning
and
zoning
committee
occurred
and
I'd
also
struck
out
any
item
for
us
at
any
proposed
project
within
the
gateway
overlay
district,
which
is
denied
by
the
planning
mayor's
planning
and
zoning
committee,
which
we
could
substitute.
G
Planning
Commission
may
be
appeal
to
the
and
we
could
insert
City
Council
there
is
that
the
language
that
were
potentially
seeking
and
I
guess
for
that
matter
in
article
three
just
above
it,
we
could
substitute
mayor's
planning
and
zoning
committee
for
Planning
Commission
and
then
still
retain
some
of
that
language.
That's
just
so.
A
H
Really
think
that
you
really
can't
even
be
denied,
because
I
might
be
on
the
other
end
of
that
I
might
be
the
one
where
they
approved
something
and
I'm
on
the
outside.
Looking
angle
and
know
that
shouldn't
be
so
really
it's
any
decision
that
they
make.
That
is
comes
to
question
by
either
party
some
party
I
mean
we
have
had.
H
We
have
had
variances
that
have
been
given
to
people
where
we
have
had
now
granted
it's
a
variance,
but
where
we've
had
opposition
to
those
variances
and
and
so
you're
always
going
to
have
that
as
a
possibility.
Well,
all
I'm
saying
is
any
decision
that
is
ultimately
made
good,
bad
or
other.
You
have
to
have
the
right
for
recourse.
H
It's
got
to
be
a
defined
recourse
and
it
could
be
that
I
request
something
and
they
grant
it
and
it
might
be
Josh
over
here
saying:
no,
that's
not
right
and
he
has
to
have
the
ability
to
have
his
his
voice
heard.
So
it
really
wouldn't
be
that
they
anything
that
they
denied
its
any
decision.
They
make.
Okay.
A
This
this
is
a
chapter
in
title
21,
which
is
the
zoning
ordinance
and
I'm
thinking
and
Matt.
Please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
would
think
that
any
action
that
is
challenged
to
the
plan
Commission
would
have
the
same
recourse
and
in
this
that
it
has
anywhere
else
in
title
21,
and
so,
if
we're
not
clear
on
that
now,
what
that
is
we're
still
not
clear
after
we
pass
this.
If
we
are
clear
we're
still
clear,
this
doesn't
change
that
this.
A
A
The
the
Planning
Commission
has
recommended
some
changes.
They
are
willing
to
add
some
of
the
metal
to
a
maximum
of
20%.
If
you
would
want
to
change
that
number
or
any
other
piece
of
this
in
a
substantial
in
a
substantial
way,
we'll
have
to
take
it
back
again
for
another
second
hearing.
Our
second
reading.
A
Just
does
everybody
understand
that
you
know
part
of
it.
Okay,
anything
else
before
I
invite
the
public
to
comment
with.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
that
would
like
to
weigh
in
on
this?
Please
state
your
name
for
the
record.
Yes,
he
looks
very
familiar.
L
L
Gene.
If
you
could
that
21,
541
or
5
45414,
that
that
section
2
was
basically
where
I
want
to
put
my
comments
towards,
and
all
these
things
get
long,
so
I'm
gonna
try
to
focus
and
not
get
into
all
the
lines
on
there.
But
that's
the
section
that
talks
about
the
exterior
the
building
shall
have
varied,
interesting
detail.
L
They,
my
concern,
is
I,
know,
there's
issues
with
traps
and
I'm
supportive
of
what
some
of
the
tribes
wants
to
do.
But
this
is
a
bigger
issue
than
that
cuz,
any
business
that
wants
to
build
out
their
works.
Local
come
to
town.
This
is
to
me
very
vague
and
very
subjective
and
I'm
gonna.
Ask
you
guys
some
questions
and
see
if
you
can
even
give
me
the
answer
still
just
take
that
very
first
sentence:
the
exterior
of
the
building
job,
a
varied
and
interesting
detail
or
detailing.
L
Ok,
who
decides
that?
How
do
you
know
and
I
mean
it
to
me
very
subjective?
That's
you
would
tell
me
one
thing
and
you'd
tell
me
another
I,
don't
see,
I,
don't
see
that
being
very
focused
at
all,
and
then
the
next
section
says
large.
Unadorned
walls
shall
be
prohibited,
50
feet
or
more
just
you
know
all
the
days
I
just
looked
at
this
today
and
this
afternoon,
I
went
out
drove
around
the
event:
center,
wouldn't
qualify.
L
East
walls
80
some
feet
long
and
it's
just
citing
past
that
entryway
that
that
kind
of
building
couldn't
be
out
there.
There's
there's,
obviously
the
based
on
the
restrictions
on
this.
The
Wellness
Center
could
have
never
been
felt
out
there
most
of
the
city.
Buildings
would
have
wouldn't
qualify
for
any
of
this
based
on
what
I
can
see,
but
well
what
would
you
interpret
that
to
say
that
varied
in
interesting
detail?
Just
start
with
that?
First
part,
because
it
gets
to
you.
That's.
L
A
H
H
L
So,
let's
take
trash,
it
has
a
rough
pitch
it
slopes
up,
it
doesn't
have
steps
in
it
as
a
slope,
so
the
problem
I'm
trying
to
get
to
is
this
is
this
is
pretty
ambiguous.
It's
like
it's
going
to
be
up
to
somebody
that
whoever
you
decide
is
basically
going
to
be
able
to
just
write
it,
how
they
feel
and
that's
that
group
changes
the
next
guy
comes
employees.
He
might
get
something
completely
different
because
they
feel
different
about
it.
I
just
don't
feel
at
this.
I
I
understand
the
intentions.
L
I
think
sometimes
good
intentions,
just
don't
cut
the
mustard,
because
I
really
feel
this
is
gonna.
Be
I,
wouldn't
know
what
to
draw
up
for
somebody
based
on
this,
and
you
think
somebody
could
come
into
town
if
you
wanted
a
Cabela's
or
something
like
that,
and
they
have
a
higher
an
architect,
a
player
plan
together,
and
it
can
actually,
you
got
a
60
feet
of
wall
here
that
doesn't
have
any
change
in
it
go
back
to
the
drawing
boards.
It
know
you
know
what
they're
gonna
tell
the
city
of
Watertown.
A
K
You're,
you
were
part
of
the
council
I
think
back
when
we
we
talked
about
this
originally
and
how
it
got
to
all
this
detail
on
us.
They
can't
tell
you,
but
I
do
know
that
we
talked
about
corporate,
looks
you
know
we
we,
because
we
brought
this
to
the
forefront
of
how
we
were
gonna,
protect
that
whole
area
out
there
aesthetically
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
was
some
kind
of
corporation
that
comes
in
somebody
exactly
like
you
were
talking
about.
K
L
M
A
The
the
group
did
try
to
be
explicit
in
what
they
meant
by
varied
and
interesting
means,
and
it's
pretty
specific
relieved
by
architectural
detailing
such
as
a
change
in
material,
changing
color,
offsets
or
other
significant
visual
relief
provided
in
a
manner
or
at
intervals,
in
keeping
with
the
size,
mass,
a
scale
of
the
wall
and
its
view
from
the
public
rights-of-way.
So
it's
it
is.
A
It
might
come
to
a
matter
of
interpretation
by
the
plan,
commission
and
they're,
the
ones
that
recommend
this
ordinance
to
the
council
for
approval,
and
they
have
the
foresight
they're,
the
ones
that
put
this
whole
overlay
district
together
and
I.
Guess
you
can
worry
that
you'd
have
a
different
appointment
of
different
members
on
the
plan.
A
L
Well,
to
speak
to
it
today,
I'd
only
have
one
instance
that
and
that's
Trav's,
that's
asked
for
anything
and
you
take
the
front
of
his
building
as
its
laid
out
now
he's
got
four
sections
to
the
front
of
that
all
which
are
bigger
than
50
feet
and
you're
saying
you
can't
put
the
same.
He
has
different
colors.
A
L
A
L
A
H
A
A
A
H
H
F
L
Does
is
the
bigger
pregnant
to
me
you
can,
we
could
argue
about,
what's
what
is
or
isn't
I
just
think
it's
it's
vague
enough
that
it's
going
to
be
it.
You
said
the
word
a
number
of
times
tonight
interpret
and
it's
going
to
be
a
varied
interpretation,
getting
it
down
to
somebody
I,
like
the
look
of
that
or
I,
don't
like
to
look
at
that
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
the
right
thing:
no
I,
don't.
A
I
would
have
to
disagree
with
your
bill.
I
think
it
it's
saying
that
it
should
be.
There
should
be
changes,
not
things
that
people
like
but
changes.
So
it's
not
all
one
uniform,
color
texture,
whatever
even
color,
is
enough
to
break
it
up.
We
say
that
right
in
here,
or
it
can
be
a
chain
in
the
in
a
vertical
sense
or
a
different
material
on
there
any
of
those
would
qualify
and
that
paragraph
is
meant
to
be
read
together,
not
sentence
by
sentence.
A
A
F
Think
when
I'm
gonna
try
to
summarize
where
my
brain
is
going
here,
I
think
what
the
we're
both
saying
the
same
things,
except
that
what
the
mayor
is
saying
is
that
as
long
as
it
changes
you
know,
you're
talking
about
a
window
could
be
12
feet
or
10
feet
or
round
or
whatever,
even
though
I
don't
like,
say
a
square
window
as
long
as
that
has
a
window.
If
there's
not
no
way
to
deny
it
is
that
what
you're
trying
to.
A
F
So
as
long
as
it's
broken
up,
whether
I
like
the
window
or
not,
if
I'm
on
the
plan,
Commission
and
the
guy
comes-
and
he
says,
I
got
this
arch
and
this
color-
and
this
thing
here
and
I,
say
god:
that's
an
awful
color
and
I
hate
that
window
I
can't
deny
it
because
it
meets
the
requirements
of
this
statement
and
I.
You.
L
A
F
A
It
has,
it
has
to
be
passed,
Lee
right,
Beth,
the
that's
what
the
committee
was
attempting
to
do
was
take
out
the
subjectivity,
and
you
know,
leave
the
styling
to
the
designer
we're
not
judging
the
sty
we're
trying
to
make
this
objective,
where
anyone
can
see
all
right.
We
can
measure
50
feet
if
you
can
measure
50
feet
and
there's
in
that
50
feet.
No
change
in
any
of
these
things.
We've
listed
material
color,
offset
visual
relief,
your
eye
bumps
into
a
window.
L
N
On
that
council
person
after
having
served
10
years,
maybe
on
the
plan,
Commission
and
Board
of
Adjustment
I,
think
that
is
what
comes
up.
All
the
time
is
making
those
judgments
and
so
I
think
bill.
You
might
be
right
that
everything
isn't
going
to
be
spelled
out
and
if
it
were
I,
don't
think
you'd
have
these
Commission's
either
because
you
wouldn't
have
to
make
those
decisions
and
I
think
that's
part
of
what
we
do.
L
I
L
Was
that
might
be
questionable
whether
that
was
that's
here
nor
there
at
this
point?
I
guess,
but
I
just
was
commenting
that,
based
on
what
I
saw
here
that
that
building
I
don't
see
how
I
would
have
there's,
there's
no
windows
or
anything
in
that.
So
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
get
as
technical
looking
for
something
to
say
that
it
steps
down
I
think
the
only
reason
it
steps
down
the
roof
slopes
and
they
save
some
money
by
not
making
parapet
wall
straight
across.
F
L
O
O
However,
I
would
say
with
conversations
that
we've
had
with
individuals
in
the
engineering
department
and
the
building
officials
they're,
not
interpreting
it
that
way,
they're
thinking,
50,
foot
or
more
of
brick
along
the
bottom
does
not
constitute
break
up.
Windows
across
do
not
constitute
break
up,
so
those
are
just
first
part
conversations,
and
that
was
our
concern
was
like
okay.
So
what
is
it
from?
What
I'm
hearing
from
you
mayor
and
the
rest
of
the
council
that
the
windows
constitute
those
band
boards?
O
A
If
it
turns
out
that
we
can't
agree
on
the
interpretation
of
this,
then
we're
probably
going
to
go
straight
back
to
the
drawing
board,
but
I
guess
it
will
be
up
to
the
council
tonight
if
they
think
this
is
passable
the
way
it's
written.
If
there
are
major
changes
that
need
to
be
made,
then
we
we
won't
be
able
to
pass
it
tonight.
A
K
Not
trying
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
you've
thought
about
this
and
I
think
yet
some
valid
concerns.
What
what
would
you
do
I
mean
now?
How
would
you
recommend
we
do
to
to
help
enter
and
I
don't
know
if
we
can
do
it,
but
that
would
be
like
some
graphic
representations
to
go
along
with
this
ordinance
that
we
could
refer
to.
L
What
you
call
architectural
change
if
I
didn't
interpret
that
a
window
is
going
to
was
going
to
cover
that
quite
honestly,
so
or
it
didn't
it
didn't
I
questioned
whether
horizontal
would
would
do
it.
I
mean
you
go
over
to
the
PD
over
here
and
they've
got
all
the
same
stone,
but
they
have
a
lighter
colored,
horizontal
band,
which
makes
them
I
mean
that's
a
visual
change
and
things
if
stuff
like
that
is
adequate.
That's
fine,
but
I
couldn't
read
that
into
this
specifically
because
it
seemed
to
me
such
a
matter
of
well.
E
I
L
G
I
guess
I'll
answer
that
one.
The
last
sentence
in
Article
two
that
we've
been
discussing
at
length
clearly
says
a
distinct
change
in
color
or
pattern
may
be
considered
a
change
along
that
side
of
the
building.
That
would
explain
the
appearance
of
the
pds
building
where
they
threw
a
different,
colored
layer
or
block
in
there
or
some
other
pattern.
I
think
we
clearly
have
that
window
open
in
this
ordinance
to
allow
the
the
types
of
things
that
he's
concerned
about,
but
I
at
least
that's
the
way.
I
interpret
it
along
with
the
Russell's,
because.
L
L
Look
like
it
to
me
first
time
reading
through
this.
It
meant
it
meant
to
me
that
if
we
don't
have
some
kind
of
a
change
in
the
wall
popping
out
or
a
parapet
or
column
or
something
else's
within
50
feet
that
don't
go
back
to
the
drawing
board.
And
it's
not
what
I'm
hearing
here
tonight
and
what
I'm
hearing
I
don't
have
really
a
problem
with
I.
Just
I,
just
don't
know,
as
things
go
on
is,
is
who
who
is
gonna,
determine
that
I
guess
right.
A
Well,
it
would
first
be
the
building
official.
He
would
be
the
first
person
to
look
at
a
proposal
and
decide
if
he
thinks
it's
compliant.
If
he
thinks
it's
compliant
a
permits
issued.
If
he
thinks
it's
not
compliant,
he
would
inform
the
applicant
and
the
applicant
would
have
a
choice
of
changing
it
or
taking
it
to
the
Planning
Commission
for
interpretation.
If,
if
he
feels
that
this
is
a
misinterpretation.
L
A
I
think
in
general,
these
standards
are
loosening
but
they're
they're,
trying
to
make
it
easier
for
development,
but
still
at
an
attractive
level,
because
this
district
is
expected
to
look
different
and
better
than
the
rest
of
town.
These
are
higher
standards
than
we
have
throughout
town
and
we,
the
Planning
Commission,
felt
that
we
still
want
the
overlay
district
to
have
higher
standards,
but
we're
loosening
the
requirement
like
the
blanket.
No
metal
is
loosened.
Now
metal
can
be
allowed
under
certain
circumstances
and
and
they
they
didn't,
feel
that
that
was
detracting
from
the
overlay
district.
H
Couldn't
we,
somewhere
within
this
language,
make
some
reference
to
vertical
and
or
horizontal
in
in
regards
to
the
remedy
of
the
50-foot
seems
like
somewhere
in
here
it
should
be
able
to
be
added.
The
second
thing
is,
we
talked
about
a
window.
You
know
a
window,
there's
a
breakup
but
said
architectural
whatever
they
called
it
detail.
H
H
That
case
as
a
as
an
egress
only
emergency
door-
okay,
that's
why
so,
maybe
what
we
need
to
do.
Maybe
what
we
need
to
do
is
we've
got
a
number
of
examples
in
here
when
we
talk
about
the
architectural
detailing,
add
windows
and
doors
in
there,
so
that
it's
it's
two
words
add
them
in
there
as
features
that
can
be
used
for
this
breakup
I
mean,
if
that's
a
question
you
might
as
well
add.
L
L
H
I
think
that's
a
something
that
we've
got
to
sit
down
with
and
as
people
come
and
go
or
as
do
things
are
introduced,
we
seem
to
make
sure
we're
all
on
the
same
page
of
what
it's
saying,
certainly
taking
the
opportunity
to
clarify
it
as
much
as
we
can,
but
that
might
be
a
training
issue.
I,
wouldn't.
O
Really
wholeheartedly
with
you
and
that's
why
we
wanted
to
bring
it
up,
so
we
everybody
was
on
the
same
page,
the
City
Council,
the
staff,
the
public
and
everything.
The
only
thing
I'd
like
to
ask
and
I'm
I'm
comfortable
with
what
the
discussion
is
and
what
you
mean
by
breaking
it
up
and
I.
Think
personally
that
I
need
to
apologize
first,
I!
Don't
if
I
don't
remember!
O
If
I
don't
do
this
now
I'll
get
in
big
trouble,
Travis
apologizes
for
not
being
here,
he
had
to
be
out
of
town
work
and
he
wanted
to
be
here
and
thanks
you
all
for
your
time.
This
number
three
where
it
talks
about
Planning,
Commission
and
I'm
comfortable
with
what
it
is.
But
what,
if
someone
has
a
question
on
the
50
feet
and
what
constitutes
a
breakup?
O
This
only
talks
about
B
able
to
go
to
the
Planning
Commission
for
a
material
change
talks
about
composition,
how
the
proposed
material
promotes
a
physical
sample,
a
color
photograph
and
a
sketch
of
the
proposed
material.
Do
you
have
to
add
something
in
there
that
talks
about
the
interpretation
of
this
50
foot
length.
K
O
L
But
yeah
I
think
that
would
be.
That
would
be
helpful
to
you
know
if
somebody
else
is
looking
at
doing
something
in
town
and
are
we've
got
our
architect
may
not
be
from
around
here,
but
at
least
if
he
can
check
into
something
and
he's
got
something
that
he
can
say.
Okay,
this
should
this
should
meet
the
standards
based
on
what
I
read
and
if
there
was
something
you
know,
I
think
even
just
what
blurting
we
talked
about,
would
change
the
drastically
ready,
at
least
it's
just
saying,
doors,
windows
and
horizontal
or
vertical
change.
L
I
A
A
A
A
A
Thank
you.
Is
there
anyone
else
that
would
like
to
speak
about
this
issue?
Okay,
so
we're
talking
about
some
words,
which
would
probably
constitute
a
substantial
change.
If
you
choose
to
add
these
words,
we'll
probably
need
to
take
this
back,
for
this
would
be
considered
the
first
reading
with
an
explicit
description
of
the
changes
and
then
the
second
reading
at
the
next
meeting
and
action
we
don't
have
to
redo
the
public
hearing
part.
A
A
N
L
A
L
A
A
A
N
A
A
The
house
good,
thank
you
all
right.
Item
number.
Six
is
authorization
for
the
mayor
to
sign
the
juvenile
detention
alternatives,
initiative,
J
Dai
committee
Memorandum
of
Understanding
and,
as
you
will
recall,
we
had
a
presentation
by
Judge
means
and
County
Councilman
over
how
what
this
is
and
and
why
it
is-
and
let's
see
here
where
am
I
number
six.
A
C
A
A
P
Good
evening
this
is
a
geotechnical
survey.
This
is
core
drilling
14
holes
in
the
apron
surface
for
pavement
design
for
the
terminal
apron,
so
we
went
out
for
bids
and
core
engineering
came
back
low
bid.
This
is
a
federally
covered
under
the
grant,
so
this
will
be
under
the
95%
match
program
for
the
for
the
terminal,
apron,
so
I
would
recommend
core
engineering
to
award
this
bid.
P
C
A
A
G
Very
briefly,
CRS
is
a
female
program
that
the
city
voluntarily
committed
to
and
did
a
great
amount
of
work
mayor
Karen.
You
get
the
credit
for
that,
because
you
did
that
one
you're
well-versed
at
and
as
a
staff
member,
but
anyway,
the
program
is
intended
to
give
the
city
brakes
and
the
overall
insurance
rates
that
the
community
sees
in
its
floodplain
districts.
G
A
Right,
thank
you.
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
those
designations,
move
by
Councilman,
Councilwoman,
manty
and
second
by
dam?
Fourth,
any
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying
nay
motion
carries
in
presentation
of
the
2017
community
rating
system,
progress
report
and
authorization
for
the
mayor
to
sign
the
2017
CRS
recertification
form.
A
We
had
the
presentation
at
the
public
works
committee.
What
you're
actually
approving
is
the
connington
County
pre-disaster
mitigation
plan,
that's
a
step
that
we
need
to
take
with
FEMA
whether
we
were
in
CRS
or
otherwise.
We
still
have
to
approve
that,
and
the
county
has
worked
on
that.
So
there
was
one
change
recommended
to
that
item.
Number
four.
A
Says
to
item
number
four
is
to
discuss
why
objectives
were
not
reached
or
why
implementation
is
behind
schedule.
We
don't
have
any
such
situation,
so
we'll
clarify
that.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
about
this?
All
right,
then
I'll
look
for
a
motion
to
make
that
approval
move
by
councilman
Bueller.
A
A
Item
number
10
is
authorization
for
the
mayor
to
sign
a
construction
agreement
with
BX
civil
and
construction
Inc
in
the
amount
of
one
hundred
one
thousand
two
hundred
seventy
eight
dollars,
sixty
cents
for
the
sanitary
sewer
replacement
project
number
1805
at
the
intersection
of
Highway
81
and
20th
Avenue,
south
and
I
look
for
a
motion
and
second,
then
I'll
ask
Shane
to
just
talk
about
a
little
bit.
We
have
a
motion
move
by
manty.
G
You
mayor
again,
this
is
related
to
the
proposed
salt
color
d-o-t
transportation
project,
which
will
improve
the
function
of
the
highway
81
and
20th
Avenue
South
intersection.
They
are
proposing
a
roundabout
and
the
project
before
the
council
tonight
is
a
portion
of
that
work
related
to
the
sanitary
sewer,
main
utility
and
the
revisions
that
we
would
have
to
do
to
our
infrastructure
to
accommodate
the
roundabout
change.
So
with
that,
the
state
prepared
the
project
and
we
had
our
consultant
prepare
plans
in
conjunction
with
that
projects.
G
Both
projects
were
let
in
December
the
state
awarded
the
project
to
BX
eval
and
construction,
incorporated
from
Dell
Rapids
and
on
the
city's
portion
of
the
project.
The
engineer's
estimate
was
one
hundred
and
fifty
nine
thousand
dollars
the
low
bid
by
BX
civil
and
constructionists
stated
was
one
hundred
one
thousand
two
hundred
and
seventy
eight
dollars
and
sixty
cents
that
both
the
consultant,
the
wastewater
department
and
the
city
engineering
staff,
recommend
approval
of
this
contract
and
just
for
clarity.
The
funding
for
the
project
will
come
from
the
wastewater,
Department
cash
reserves.
G
I
do
have
one
additional
comment
and
that's
related
to
the
timeline
of
the
project.
Okay,
so
the
contract
calls
for
75
Calendar
working
days,
but
not
to
exceed
substantial
completion
date
of
August.
Third,
so
reverse
math
as
engineers
always
do.
That
would
look
at
a
kickoff
of
approximately
the
week
of
May
20
would
meet
that
August
3rd
completion
date.
So
that's
that
gives
you
an
idea
of
the
timeframe
of
the
project.
Okay,.
A
Of
its,
we
have
to
approve
it
because
it's
our
sewer
and
we're
paying
for
it.
So
any
other
questions
or
comments.
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
and
second,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay,
motion
carries
okay
item
number
11
is
authorization
for
the
engineering
department
to
move
forward
with
plans
for
converting
camp
Avenue
to
two-way
travel
and
I
would
like
to
say
I
know,
there's
a
couple
of
people
in
the
audience
and
thank
you
for
sticking
it
out.
A
I
didn't
know
if
those
other
items
were
going
to
take
this
long
council
action
is
not
required
for
this
improvement.
As
the
mayor
I
have
the
authority
to
make
changes
in
this
way
to
travel
and
transportation
in
our
city.
However,
I
don't
think
that's
necessarily
the
right
thing
for
me
to
do.
I
recognize
that
not
everyone
agrees
and
I
think
the
City
Council
is
a
better
representation
of
the
community
interests
than
any
one
individual,
including
myself.
A
Therefore,
I
would
like
the
council
to
rule
on
this,
just
so
that
we
have
some
community
acknowledgement
that
this
is
what
we're
doing
as
a
community
and
I'm.
Not
afraid
to
say
what
my
opinion
is
and
and
I've
spoken
very
publicly,
that
I
am
in
support
of
two-way
travel
on
camp
Avenue
for
a
number
of
reasons,
and
actually
when,
when
this,
when
I
first
heard
about
this
five
years
ago,
when
we
started
talking
about
this,
I
was
leery
and
I
was
not
in
favor
necessarily
I
wanted
to
learn.
A
More
and
I
did
some
research
I
participated
in
the
Shred
and
I
watched
things
come
about
over
time
and
for
the
following
reasons:
I
support
changing
traffic
to
two-way
on
Camp.
First
of
all,
other
communities
have
done
this
successfully
and
the
results
been
positive.
Wayfinding
is
easier
and
commerce,
generally
is
improved
by
a
two-way
travel
on
the
downtown
streets.
I
was
my
main
reason
for
not
wanting
to
do
this
before
I
change.
My
mind
was
long
vehicles,
I
thought
would
block
travel
and
make
it
difficult
and
I
think
that
is
true.
A
Long
vehicles
will
block
travel.
However,
this
is
the
same
width
street
as
first
Avenue
south,
and
we
have
the
same
kind
of
long
vehicles
parked
there
and
what
happens
when,
when
you
have
a
vehicle
jutting
out
into
traffic,
you
might
have
to
wait
for
a
clear
passage
for
traffic
in
the
opposite
direction
to
pass
before
you
go
around,
but
I.
Don't
think
that
will
happen
very
often.
A
A
The
same
each
time,
favoring
two-way
travel
over
one
way
in
2013
the
Walkabout
survey
was
done
and
in
2015
the
Charette
was
done,
and,
incidentally,
the
Shred
is
where
I
changed
my
mind.
There
was
so
much
data
presented
to
the
group
at
that
event,
that
and
looking
at
other
communities
and
what
what
was
going
on
before
the
chain
was
made
and
after
and
the
results
are
positive
in
general
and
then
in
2017.
The
Chamber
of
Commerce
did
another
survey,
and
all
of
these
were
favoring.
A
Two-Way
travel
and
two-way
streets
were
converted
in
pairs
to
one-way
streets
decades
ago,
in
a
kind
of
a
pattern
across
our
nation
and
the
that
was
an
effort
to
speed
traffic
through
neighborhoods,
and
it
was
successful
in
doing
that.
It
did
work,
but
at
the
expense
of
Commerce
and
many
communities
have
converted
back
to
two-way.
In
order
to
reverse
the
negative
effects,
it
will
probably
slow
the
traffic
down,
but
that's
not
necessarily
a
bad
thing.
Fast.
Moving
traffic
isn't
necessarily
what
we
want
on
Kemp.
A
We
want
commerce
on
Kemp
and
Kemp
is
now
a
solitary,
one-way
street.
There
is
no
pair
to
it
since
we
converted
first
Avenue,
south
and
so
balance
will
be
restored
with
having
everything
back
to
two-way
and
I
would
like
to
add
that
urban
renewal
boards
past
and
present
have
supported
two-way
travel
and,
and
that's
something
that
I
think
is
important.
A
Delivery
vehicles
do
cause
delay.
I
can't
deny
that,
but
they
cause
delay
on
our
other
two-way
streets
in
town
and
it
isn't
a
big
deal.
I,
don't
think.
That's,
in
my
opinion,
a
reason
not
to
move
forward
with
the
conversion.
So
I
think
this
is
the
right
thing
to
do
for
our
community,
but
I
will
leave
it
to
the
council
to
make
that
decision
on
behalf
of
your
constituents.
H
H
H
A
H
A
Q
Therefore,
we're
gonna
have
truck
stopped
in
the
middle
of
the
road.
How
do
people
go
around
them
causing
different
kinds
of
problems
as
far
as
the
retail
goal,
the
angle
of
the
parking?
Are
we
changing
the
angles
so
that
it's
going
to
be
at
a
different
angle?
And
if
we
are,
are
we
going
to
be
losing
parking
spaces?
I
mean
these
are
just
some
questions.
We
we
feel
we
have
not
been
told
how
it's
going
to
work
or
what
it's
going
to
do.
Q
When
you
compare
first
Avenue
south
to
Kemp,
you
know,
there's
only
two,
retailers
on
1st
Avenue,
South
and
retail
has
a
different
kind
of
set
of
different
kind
of
issues
that
we
have
to
deal
with
compared
to
somebody
that's
on
the
second
floor
that
has
their
own
parking
lot
and
customers
maybe
come
to
them
once
a
day.
I
mean
we're
just
looking
at
different
kinds
of
things.
They're.
The
Chamber's
survey
that
Sara
that
you
mentioned
29,
were
in
favor
of
changing
and
27
were
against
and
8
or
9
said
they
didn't
care.
Q
That's
really
not
a
mandate
that
this
is
going
to
be
the
right
thing
for
the
the
uptown
other
communities
that
have
converted
back
Aberdeen
Mitchell,
Sioux
Falls.
They
all
have
one
ways
and
they
have
parallel
streets
that
are
not
of
the
same.
So
it
shouldn't
really
matter
whether
or
not
first
having
herself
is
one
way
or
a
different
way
than
what
this
is.
The
you
know.
The
Shred
was
a
great
brainstorming
session
and
I
know
like
I
went
on
Friday
night
and
Saturday
and
I
heard
some
most
super
ideas
there.
Q
That
I
know
a
lot
of
us
hope
town
would
love
to
have
somebody
be
able
to
pay
for,
and
do
some
of
those
things,
because
its
activities
and
the
promotional
things
that
are
gonna
draw
people
to
the
Uptown.
That's
what's
gonna,
take
it's
gonna
take
for
us
to
get
more
people
to
taking
part
in
it.
The
fact
that
it's
one
way
versus
two
way,
I,
don't
think,
is
necessarily
the
the
main
threats
of
the
whole
thing,
but
it
is
going
to
cause
a
lot
of
commotion
and
a
lot
of
problems.
Q
When
you
made
that
comment
Sarah
about
passport
I
served
on
the
urban
renewal
board
for
several
years.
We
talked
about
this
issue
many
many
times,
and
it
was
always
decided
that
it
is
not
in
the
best
interest
of
the
business
district,
the
businesses
retail
businesses,
to
make
this
a
two-way
street
plus
we
always
have
the
recommendation
of
three
Chiefs
of
Police.
That
said
that
it
will
open
us
up
to
more
accidents
and
I.
Q
Guess:
that's
why
we
always
tabled
it
and
never
took
it
any
further
than
where
it
was
so
I
guess
we
just
are
concerned
about
some
of
the
issues
that
are
going
to
be
coming
about
and
how
they're
gonna
be
handled.
What
they're
going
to
be
doing?
What
is
that
going
to
be
doing
to
the
to
the
angle
of
the
parking
and
some
of
these
types
of
things
and
I.
A
Don't
know
if
you
have
the
exact
angle
and
there
will
be
lost
parking,
but
we
have
had
lots
of
comments
in
the
engineering
department,
even
with
the
one
way
that
it's
difficult
to
see
and
there's
not
enough
room.
You
can't
in
order
to
move
out
and
and
these
parking
changes
were
probably
necessary
in
order
to
make
visibility
better,
whether
we
change
or
not,
we
aren't
in
compliance
currently
with
our
ordinance
in
terms
of
the
setback
of
parking
spots
from
crosswalks
and
street
intersections
we're
not
in
compliance
with
the
manual
on
traffic
control
devices.
A
That
recommends
it's.
That's
not
a
rule
that
we
have
to
follow
like
our
ordinances,
but
but
we're
moving
in
the
right
direction
by
eliminating
some
parking
spots,
and
there
was
a
presentation
by
the
engineering
department
at
the
Public,
Works,
Committee
and,
and
he
pointed
out
at
least
several
locations
where
we
can
pick
up
additional
parking
spots
and
and
we'll
be
probably
looking
into
that
there.
A
There
is
a
net
loss
in
the
proposal
of
eleven
out
of
eight
blocks,
which
is
four
or
five
percent
of
the
parking
downtown
will
be
lost,
but
we
can
make
up
eight
or
ten
of
those
with
those
other
spots
that
Shane
pointed
out.
So
what's
that?
Yes
and
there's
still
lots
of
parking
in
the
parking
lots
and
we
continue
to
improve.
A
Q
We're
living
in
a
dream
world,
if
we
think
our
customers
are
gonna
park
in
the
parking
lot
and
come
come
in
parking,
is
a
problem
in
the
uptown.
You
asked
any
of
the
business
people
right
now.
They
look
at
it
as
a
problem
with
having
no
ordinances
on
the
books
at
all
it.
There
are
several
sections
that
is
caused
a
lot
of
problems.
What.
Q
Sort
of
to
our
parking
during
the
day
you
know
I
know.
The
argument
was
that
the
police
were
not
out
there
monitoring,
but
you
know
what
the
police
didn't
need
to.
First
of
all,
80%
of
the
people
are
gonna,
follow
the
rule.
If
the
law
is
on
the
books,
so
you're
only
working
with
20%
of
them
and
they're
people
who
well
I'm
not
gonna,
walk
that
far
so
they're
gonna
park
in
front
of
the
person
right
next
next
to
them,
at
least
if
the
law
was
there
and
I'm.
Q
Having
troubles
with
someone
over
here,
I
can
call
the
cops
and
I
can
say.
Well
you
monitor
this
guy
because
he's
not
supposed
to
be
parking
here
and
he
is
parking
there
all
day.
Every
day
there
there's
a
place
over
at
First
Avenue
across
from
the
courthouse.
She
tells
me
she
comes
before
8
o'clock
every
morning
and
parks
there
we're.
Q
C
Q
There's
probably
five
or
six
people
that
called
me
and
just
said:
here's
some
questions.
If
you're
gonna
go,
would
you
just
ask-
and
you
know
the
ones
that
have
no
back
sides
to
their
businesses
to
receive
any
merchandise
they're
very
concerned,
because
that's
the
only
way
they
have
to
you
know
for
a
delivery
to
pull
up,
get
their
merchandise
and
they'll.
A
Be
able
to
do
that,
but
we're
not
stopping
that
with
this
change.
People
will
be
delayed.
Yes,
we
might
have
to
wait.
I
had
to
wait
the
other
day
on
a
side
street
when
there
was
a
delivery,
truck
delivering
stuff
to
gather
and
I
waited
and
the
cars
went
by
and
then
I
went
around
and
it's
I
know,
there's
a
fear
in
making
a
change.
I
I,
don't
think
that
this
is
going
to
be
disastrous.
I
think
this
will
be
a
good
thing.
A
I
want
to
do
this
if
I
didn't
truly
believe
this
is
good
thing
for
our
community
and
I
I
I
recognize
your
fears.
I,
had
those
same
fears
and
I've
been
able
to
work
through
them
and
depending
on
what
the
council
does
tonight,
I
mean
some
people
are
gonna,
be
happy
and
others
are
not
that's
community
action
as
it
happens,
and
and
we
as
a
community,
need
to
decide
what's
best
and
there's
going
to
be
whatever
the
council
decides
to
do
tonight.
A
H
G
Particular
what
basically,
what
we
do
is
we
try
to
pull
that
tail
end
of
the
vehicles
closer
to
in
line
with
the
curb,
so
that
the
angle
is
a
little
bit
steeper
I
in
a
that,
will
give
us
a
little
extra
room
in
the
travel
lanes
and
we've
experienced
no
issues
with
the
way
we
did
that
on
First,
Avenue
South,
so
I
don't
anticipate
any
real
issues
on
Camp
Nou.
It
actually.
Q
M
Q
Q
F
But
I
know
people
don't
believe
me,
but
they
are
also
and
I
just
got
another
email
talking
about
slowing
down
traffic
and
Shane
has
mentioned
it
before
about
traffic
calming
and
when
people
have
to
kind
of
pay
attention
with
the
different
trucks
and
things
like
that
traffic
slows,
they
have
a
tendency
to
pay
more
attention
to
what
businesses
are
there
and
what
things
are
going
on.
It
becomes
safer
for
pedestrian
traffic,
it
becomes
safer
for
bicycles
and
all
the
things
that
we
want
to
have
come
downtown
to
help
improve.
F
Some
of
the
things
you
are
talking
about
are
exactly
spot-on.
We
want
people
down
there
for
music.
We
want
people
down
there
to
shop,
a
lot
of
people
down
there
to
bring
their
kids
and
spend
time
and
a
safer
slower
traffic
will
actually
how
increase
that
there
has
been
I.
Think
I
have
a
binder
actually
of
of
reasons
why
two-way
traffic
is
actually
better.
I
would
like
nothing
better
than
to
have
downtown
full
of
cars.
All
the
time
and
I
understand
that.
F
If
the
weather
was
crappy,
I
probably
wouldn't
get
out
if
I
couldn't
park
in
front
of
the
business
but
then
well,
maybe
I
shouldn't
go
down
there
anyway,
not
a
single
other
person
said
that
not
being
able
to
park
right
in
front
of
the
business
prevented
them
from
going
where
they
were
going
to
go.
People
say
that
they
go
to
one
of
the
restaurants.
They
have
to
park
all
the
way
around
the
corner
and
and
then
some
I
think
we
have
a
perceived
parking
problem,
not
an
actual
parking
problem.
F
F
That's
my
maybe
my
opinion
but
I,
think
I'm
I
think
we
have
a
perceived
parking
problem
versus
an
actual
parking
problem
and,
as
I
said
earlier,
I
would
like
nothing
better
than
for
the
entire
downtown
to
be
full
of
cars
top
to
bottom
front
to
back
and
that
just
hasn't
happened
and
I
know
we're
gonna
have
to
agree
to
disagree,
but
I,
like
Sarah,
started
out
this
process
with,
like
not
sure
and
went
into
a
lot
of
research,
actually
found
that
neighborhoods
became
safer
once
and
businesses
became
safer
once
traffic
was
returned
to
two-way
versus
one-way
and
insurance
rates
went
down
and,
and
there
were
there's
a
whole
laundry
list
of
benefits
of
two-way
streets.
F
Q
A
G
So,
starting
at
the
West,
End,
third
Avenue
or
third
Street
West
excuse
me
and
the
intersection
Kemp
is
currently
a
four-way
stop.
We
would
continue
that
the
intersection
of
2nd
Street
west
would
continue
to
be
a
two-way
stop,
with
the
stopping
being
on
2nd
1st
Street
West
will
be
converted
to
an
all-way
stop.
It
currently
only
has
a
two-way
stop.
G
The
intersection
of
Broadway
and
Kemp,
which
is
currently
a
signal
system,
would
became,
would
become
always
stopped.
The
intersection
of
maple,
which
is
also
signalized,
would
become
an
all-way
stop,
and
the
intersection
of
2nd
Street
East,
which
is
signalized,
would
become
an
always
stop,
and
then
we
would
revert
back
to
two-way
stops
on
the
side
streets
from
for
3rd,
Street,
4th,
Street,
etc.
So.
M
Q
Q
The
biggest
violators
are
either
business
owners
or
employees
of
other
businesses
who
don't
walk
that
far
either
they
won't
park
in
the
city
parking
lots,
even
if
they're
provided
every
block.
They
wouldn't
do
that,
but
they'll
park
in
front
of
the
neighbors
I
mean
we.
We
have
parking
issues
right
over
here,
I
mean
and
there's
just
nothing.
You
can
do
about
it,
because
there's
no
ordinance
in
place
to
take
care
of
it.
Q
A
J
Randy
Tupper
former
council
member
and
Board
Chair,
the
urban
renewal,
Board
I,
have
put
in
countless
hours
in
this
project
when
I
was
on
the
council.
I
think
a
lot
of
you
know
that
that
I
was
very
eminent,
that
and
I
believe
it
has
to
be
done.
A
lot
of
research
was
put
into
this.
Not
only
you
know
they
did
the
one
that
really
opened.
My
eyes,
of
course,
was
the
Scrat,
as
we
all
sat
around
the
tables
and
split
into
different
groups.
J
You
know,
and
then
we
we'd
meet
after
the
group
and
we'd
highlight
everything
and
wall
the
people
ever
there
remember
that
one
of
the
things
that
always
was
toward
the
top
was
two-way
streets
to
revert
back
to
two-way
streets.
If
you
remember,
they
were
converted
to
one-way
streets
after
an
agreement
with
the
Department
of
Transportation
I,
believe
back
in
the
early
to
mid
70s
in
the
design
was
when
they
rebuilt
highway
81
and
he
wanted
a
thoroughfare
through
water
dump
and
what
is
a
thoroughfare
but
a
way
of
moving
traffic
through
town
fast.
J
Now,
if
you
look
at
a
downtown
business
compared
to
any
other
business,
you
know
that's
along
the
highway.
What
would
you
say
the
average
storefront
is
50
75
feet?
That's
her
idea
of
her
that
sir,
that's
her
signage.
You
know
that
is
the
signage
they
yeah.
One
thing
when
you
convert
to
two-way
traffic
and
I
know
this
for
a
fact
and
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
Beth
made
the
comment.
They
inverted
Phillips
from
they
didn't
converted
from
one
way
they
converted
it
from
a
actually.
J
They
made
it
into
a
pedestrian
mall
and
they
did
convert
it
so,
but
I
took
the
time
to
contact
Heath,
hop
user.
Who
is
the
the
traffic
engineering
in
Sioux,
Falls
and
I
asked
him
some
questions
and
I
asked
him
what
the
average
speed
was
on
Phillips
Avenue
and,
of
course,
you
some
of
their
camera
systems
and
stuff.
He
was
able
to
give
me
that-
and
this
is
quite
a
while
ago,
the
average
speed
on
Phillips
Avenue
in
the
three
block
area.
That's
busiest
is
nine
miles
an
hour.
J
J
J
J
Avenue
area
is
very,
very
minimal,
because
I
think
Shane
was
the
one
that
a
long
time
ago
came
up,
but
you
know
somebody
said
what
we're
gonna
do
for
speed
limit,
and
you
know
he
made
the
comment
that
we
didn't
think
we
needed
to
because
it
is
going
to
have
a
calming
effect
if
you
go
downtown
busiest
downtown
in
the
state
of
South,
Dakota
and
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time.
That's
one
of
my
most
favorite
places
to
go
is
down
on
Phillips,
Avenue
and
watch
it
or
you
drive
down
it.
J
It's
very,
very
slow
traffic.
You
know
when
people
are
having
to
pay
attention
because
it
is
just
his
best
setting
I
found
out
the
same
way.
I
went
to
first
District
one
day
and
Adam
pull
it
up,
they're,
both
exactly
55
feet.
You
know
it
worked
very
good
for
for
a
very,
very
good,
very
vibrant,
downtown.
Now
everything
every
study
we've
ever
did
like
I
say
that
the
Scrat
was
probably
one
of
the
other
ones.
Me
and
Beth
have
sat
through
a
couple
other
ones:
everything
leans
toward
changing
new
streets
back
to
a
traffic
I.
J
Remember
when
retail
strategies
came
to
town
and
and
they
do
work
with
downtown
districts,
they
couldn't
believe
that
we
had
still
had
one-way
streets.
When
we
told
them,
we
were
changing
the
one
last
year
to
the
two
ways,
just
like
couple:
kids
in
a
candy
store,
put
it
that
way,
but
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
research
they're
put
into
there,
I
mean
if
I
took
the
time
to
actually
borrow
a
radar
gun
and
check
the
traffic.
J
I
mean
I,
put
a
lot
of
time
into
them
and
it
have
been
very
a
huge
proponent
of
I.
Think
we
need
to
you,
know:
I,
remember
growing
up
in
Watertown
and
lived
here.
My
whole
life
and
that's
in
Watertown
was
vibrant,
downtown.
It's
it's
not
just
the
businesses
that
have
moved
out
of
downtown
at
that
time.
That
way
it
was,
but
our
downtown
is
starting
to
slowly
to
thrive
and
and
if
we
don't
do
the
the
changes,
I
called
12
Midwest
cities
that
have
made
a
change
and
I
never
had
a
one
of
them.
J
J
They
changed
a
couple
of
their
streets
back
to
two-way,
and
if
you
look
at
Sioux
Falls,
most
they're
one
way
are
thee.
They're,
not
the
artery
streets
of
the
side,
streets,
lacrosse,
Onalaska
Jamestown
might
not
call
people
in
all
those
cities
that
are
affiliated
with
their
downtown
Association
and
they
they
all
agreed.
It
was
the
best
thing
they
ever
did
so
anybody.
A
J
Know
it
was
I,
think
gene
can
tell
you.
I
was
kind
of
between
him
and
Rob.
I
was
always
bugging
him
about.
You
know
when
we
gonna
do
this
so
and
I'm
glad
that
last
year
they
did
the
other
one
too.
You
know
I
haven't
seen
any
problem
with
with
the
other
one
and
like
you'd
say
it's
the
same
way.
It's
it's
that
it's
that
visual,
that
it
does
look
smaller
because
of
the
height
of
the
buildings
mm-hmm.
J
But
I
would
like
to
see
you
guys
move
forward
and
I
think
it
is
gonna,
be
very,
very
great
for
the
downtown
to
to
change
back
and
I.
Think
you're
gonna
find
it's
gonna
be
safer
for
pedestrians.
It's
gonna
slow
people
down.
What
do
you
do
when
you
slow
down?
You
look
around
a
little
bit
more
and
when
you
only
got
50
to
75
feet,
to
show
your
storefront
in
what
you
have
I
mean
we
want
commerce
downtown
and
that's
gonna
help
that
a
lot.
So
thank.
J
C
G
Thank
You
councilman,
this
state
do
T
controls
the
intersection
of
Highway,
81
and
camp.
The
improvements
that
the
city
would
need
to
do
is
add
an
extra
leg
to
the
signal
system.
We
have
a
cost
estimate
to
do
that.
However,
in
our
contact
with
the
d-o-t,
they
have
a
desire
to
enhance
the
entire
signal
system
there
to
accommodate
the
latest
technology
related
to
the
ad,
a
crossing
compliance.
G
What
that
means
is
they
do
a
voice-activated
system
where
they,
it
tells
you
whether
it's
safe
to
cross,
how
much
time
you
have
left
across
those
kind
of
details
and
if
they
desire
to
do
that,
it'll
probably
delay
our
conversion
project
potentially,
but
we
need
to
get
more
details
from
the
state
as
to
their
timeline
for
completing
that
project.
If
they
let
us
enhance
the
one
discussion
that
could
happen
is
that
they
less
enhance
our
leg
and
then
with
the
idea
that
the
overall
accommodations
for
the
additional
technology
happens.
G
That
could
be
one
path
if
they
want
us
to
wait
till
the
whole
project
comes
together,
we
may
have
a
day
and
I'm
going
to
pursue
that
with
the
d-o-t
staff.
In
more
detail
to
kind
of
fill
that
out,
but
the
city's
desire
would
be
to
commit
to
going
to
one
way
and
then
work
out
that
detail
with
the
d-o-t
so
that
we
can
get
this
project
done
so
Thank.
H
H
H
G
A
A
We
do
have
a
need
to
go
into
executive
session
pursuant
to
SDC
l1
25
this
evening,
in
order
to
discuss
and
consult
with
legal
counsel
on
contractual
matters.
I
do
not
expect
any
action
upon
coming
out.
So
is
there
a
motion
and
second,
to
move
into
executive
session,
move
by
vill
Hauer?
Second
by
Mantee,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay
motion
carries
we're
in
executive
session.