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B
A
By
Councilwoman,
manty
and
second
by
councilman
wide
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
all
right.
Those
opposed
motion
carries.
Second
item.
Is
approval
of
the
minutes
from
the
January
16
2018
meeting
their
motion
to
approve
so
moved,
moved
by
danforth
start
of
the
second
by
l'olam,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye,
aye.
C
A
Was
a
posting,
a
fiver,
say,
nay,
motion
carries
item,
number
three's,
consideration
of
bids
received
for
wastewater
equipment
and
mike
burger
wastewater
superintendent.
Is
here
tell
us
about
these
and
I
think
what
the
way
I'll
do.
This
Mike
is
look
for
a
recommendation
just
for
the
whole
group.
Just
this
is
just
a
recommendation.
Okay,.
D
D
2
p.m.
on
Thursday,
January
25th
for
the
2018
wastewater
and
solid
waste
equipment
purchases
in
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
would
be
the
sewer
jetter
truck
for
bids
were
received
for
the
sewer
jetter
truck.
The
low
bid
that
meets
the
specifications
is
from
Eliot
sanitation
equipment,
part
of
Grimes
Iowa
in
the
amount
of
three
hundred
and
seventy
six
thousand
four
hundred
and
ninety
dollars.
Last
$175,000
trading
for
a
net
amount
of
two
hundred
one
thousand
four
hundred
and
ninety
dollars.
D
So
we
would
recommend
awarding
this
bid
to
Eliot
sanitation
for
the
net
bid
amount
of
two
hundred
and
one
thousand
four
hundred
and
ninety
dollars
with
the
trade-in
and
the
unit
they
bid
is
the
newer
version
of
the
camel
jeder,
the
machine
that
we
were
trading
in
and
the
vendor
tells
us
that
they've
got
the
trade
in
pre-sold
and
hence
we
received
a
trade
in
value.
That's
twice
what
we
were:
anticipating
sceles.
C
D
It's
from
technology
international
of
Lake
Mary
Florida,
a
second
bid
was
received,
but
it
came
in
a
day
late
and
therefore
we
could
not
open
it
or
consider
it
in
the
sealed
bid
process
and
so
we'd
like
to
recommend
awarding
this
bid
to
technology
international
in
the
amount
of
seventy-six
thousand
seven
hundred
and
twenty
dollars
and
I
would
say
this
is
a
little
bit
over
budget.
This
is
eleven
thousand
three
hundred
and
thirty
six
thousand
over
budget
and
I
guess
I
failed
to
mention
that
under
the
Jetta
there
we
are
with
a
great
trade-in
value.
D
A
D
D
The
third
item
is
the
biosolids
improvements,
and
here
bids
were
opened
at
two
p.m.
on
Tuesday
January
23rd
for
the
wastewater
treatment
facility,
biosolids
dewatering
improvements,
five
bids
were
received
and
the
low
bid
from
Swanberg
construction
of
Valley
City
in
North
Dakota
has
been
tournament
to
be
complete
in
the
design.
D
Engineers
here
have
reviewed
these
with
this
and
then
HR
green
recommends,
awarding
the
base
bid
to
Swanberg
construction
in
the
amount
of
1
million
sixty
three
thousand
dollars
here
we
are
not
awarding
bid
alternate
a
bid
alternate
a
is
a
telemetry
computer
systems,
software
upgrade
and
we're
actually
planning
on
replacing
that
computer
next
year.
So
we'll
have
new
hardware
with
the
new
the
latest
operating
system
and
that'll
support,
then
the
newest
version
of
the
telemetry
software.
D
So
we
are
not
awarding
alternative
a
and
I
think
I'll
elaborate
a
little
bit
on
this
particular
large
item
of
the
nine
hundred
forty
thousand
dollars
budgeted
for
this
project.
Eight
hundred
thirty
nine
thousand
was
budget
for
the
construction
cost,
and
so
this
bid
is
about
two
hundred
and
twenty
four
thousand
over
budget.
D
D
I
did
request
a
breakdown
of
the
bid
of
the
low
bid
from
the
engineers
so
that
we
could
explain
that
to
you
a
little
bit
on
where
the
overages
come
from
and
so
I'll
move
into
that,
and
that's
that
green
sheet
that
little
spreadsheet
laying
on
your
seats.
Yes,
that's
that
kind
of
is
the
breakdown
and
and
now
they're,
not
comparing
it
to
the
budget
they're
comparing
it
to
the
engineers
opinion,
a
probable
cost,
and
so
in
the
center.
D
There
is
the
design
engineers
opinion
of
cost
to
the
left
of
Swann
Berg's
bid,
and
then
a
right
is
the
difference
and
you
can
see
that's
where
the
additional
cost
have
come
from
and
I
thought
I'd
just
touch
on
the
four
largest
items.
The
first
large
item
would
be
item,
number
three
is
concrete
and
they
had
estimated
at
224
thousand
eight
hundred
ten
dollars.
D
The
bid
came
in
at
forty
five
thousand
when
they
broke
it
down,
which
is
twenty
thousand
one
hundred
ninety
dollars
more
and
the
reason
for
this
was
that
the
contractor
had
a
higher
cost
for
the
labor
involved
here.
What
we're
doing
in
this
project
as
opposed
to
building
a
new
building,
we're
repurposing
and
a
building
that
we
abandoned
in
place
back
in
2011?
It
was
a
nice
concrete
structure,
so
it
has
a
lot
channels
through
the
floor
where
waste
water
used
to
flow
and
the
so
there's
a
lot
of
labor
I.
D
Guess
it's
setting
the
forms
to
fill
these
channels,
because
essentially
the
contractor
just
had
a
higher
labor
cost
for
the
concrete
than
the
engineer's
estimate
and
that's
how
they
explained
it
to
us.
On
the
piping,
the
process
piping
item
number
six.
They
had
estimated
forty
six
thousand
four
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
and
it
came
in
at
85.
D
The
next
item
would
be
item
number
eight,
which
is
the
screw
past.
The
process
equipment,
the
valves
in
the
in
the
pumps
and
so
forth,
and
here
you
can
see
that
they
estimated
four
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
forty
dollars
and
the
contractors
bid
was
one
hundred
four
thousand
nine
hundred
sixty
dollars
above
that
and
what
happened
here
is
they
had
a
they
had
the
engineers
got
prices
from
the
vendor,
not
there's
not
manufacturing.
D
There
were
seven
vowels
that
accounted
for
twenty
seven
thousand
dollars
and
then
the
rest
were
were
the
pumps
and
then
the
final
item
where
they
were
off
the
engineers,
ok
needed
probable
cause
was
much
lower
than
the
bid
was
the
electrical.
You
can
see
the
estimated
at
sixty
three
thousand
five
hundred
fifty
dollars
and
the
bid
was
sixty
one
thousand
four
hundred
fifty
above
that,
and
that
was
simply
the
engineers
cost
for
that
was
low.
They
did
based
on
a
previous
project.
So
we're
not.
D
Why
that
we're
not
sure
why
this
bid
is
higher
but
I
guess,
and
when
you
look
at
the
eight
you
look
at
the
five
bids,
there's
about
8%
real
tight
range.
So
all
the
contractors
seem
to
understand
the
spec,
and
so
we
believe
the
bids
are
good.
We
did
get
five
of
them
and
they're
pretty
tight
at
8%,
which
is
about
85,000
I,
think
$550
spread
on
a
million
dollars,
so
the
engineers
opinion
the
probable
call.
F
D
Could
not
the
he
was
bidding
as
it
lump
sum?
So
what
happened
when
we
seen
this
disparity
from
their
probable
cost
and
the
bid
I
asked
them
to
provide
a
breakdown
of
the
low
bid
visit.
The
bids
themselves
are
nice
and
tight,
so
we
wanted
to
be
able
explain
to
you
the
low
bid
that
we're
recommending
so
I
don't
know.
What's
in
those
other
bids,
it
wasn't
bid.
As
line
item
was
bent,
it
was
bid
as
lump
sum.
F
G
D
F
H
I
A
D
We
would
still
like
to
move
forward
with
awarding
the
bid
as
me,
with
those
five
bids
being
within
eight
percent,
that
it's
pretty
clear
that
they're
good
bids.
We
do
have
the
cash
reserves
to
cover
the
overage
which
it's
there
like
I
said.
In
addition,
the
there
was
one
other
piece
of
equipment
in
wastewater:
that's
not
on
the
agenda.
Cuz.
D
We
didn't
have
to
buy
it
by
sealed
bid,
so
we
got
two
quotes
one
from
two
Falls
one
from
Watertown
and
we're
buying
another
piece
of
equipment
also
locally
based
on
quotes,
and
that
was
about
three
thousand
nine
hundred
under
the
budget
price.
So
all
in
all
the
equipment
that
we're
purchasing
a
wastewater
are
two
hundred
thirty
one
thousand
below
our
budget.
The
to
the
two
bids
I
just
mentioned
in
one
quote
that
you're
not
seeing
tonight
and
we
do
have
the
cash
reserves
so
yeah
their
estimate
was
definitely
low.
That.
J
D
D
When
we
get
to
the
bids
there's
several,
they
did
not
meet
the
specifications.
Five
bids
were
received
for
the
automated
truck
body.
The
low
bid
that
meets
the
specifications
is
from
sanitation
products
for
the
curb
tender
we
do
have
for
Kurt
Kimber
for
poor,
curb
tender,
garbage
trucks
in
our
fleet
and
it's
in
the
amount
of
one
hundred.
D
Sixteen
thousand
seven
hundred
and
thirty
three
dollars
less
twenty:
two
thousand
trading
for
a
net
bid
for
the
body
of
ninety
four
thousand,
seven
hundred
and
thirty
three
dollars
so
we'd
recommend
awarding
this
bid
to
sanitation
products
in
the
net
bid
amount
of
ninety
four
thousand
seven
hundred
thirty
three
dollars
with
trade.
Just
to
give
you
an
idea,
the
total
cost
of
this
truck
with
the
body
and
chassis
combined
is
two
hundred
nineteen
thousand
five
hundred
ninety
one
dollars,
and
that
is
seventeen
thousand
five
hundred
and
fifty
two
dollars.
D
D
Oh
so
I'll
elaborate
on
that
the
Alliant
equipment
bid,
the
Skorpion
that
did
not
meet
the
specifications
in
five
areas.
I
think
the
Elliott
they're
the
ones
we
just
recommended
for
the
jeder
we
did.
We
were
not
aware
of
them
being
out
there
in
green
Grimes
Iowa
selling
these
bodies
I
think
when
they
saw
the
Jedi
bid.
They
also
bid
the
body,
but
this
is
a
body
we've
never
seen
before,
and
so
it
did
not
meet
our
specifications
in
five
areas.
D
In
ten
they
checked
knowing
twelve
areas,
and
when
we
looked
at
the
bid
actually
two
of
the
areas
they
checked,
no,
they
did
meet
it,
but
there
was
ten
areas
that
truck
does
not
meet
our
specification
and
the
most
major
one
is
the
left
arm
itself.
They
do
not
have
a
2,000
pound
lift
capacity
and
we
go
from
ninety
five
gallons
up
to
four
hundred
and
fifty
gallon
containers.
So
that's
just
an
area
of
the
spec.
D
We
would
not
reduce
that
and
it's
a
different
style
truck
that
actually
tips
to
dump
as
opposed
to
one
where
so
how
full
ejection
so.
But
there
was
ten
areas
where
that
the
second
bid
did
not
meet
the
specification.
So
the
low
bid
that
meets
the
specifications
is
the
sanitation
products
of
Sioux
Falls,
the
curb
tender
power
pack.
We
have
four
kerb
tenders
and
that
was
116,000,
$733
less
to
$22,000,
traded,
okay,.
J
E
D
Just
bent
the
chassis
we've
done
it
this
way
for
a
number
of
years,
and
it's
worked
out
pretty
well
for
us.
The
chassis
vendors
want
to
sell
you
chassis
in
this
case
the
sanitation
products.
They
sell,
garbage
trucks
they
had
to
sell
the
bodies,
so
they
have
customer
base
that
that's
that's
a
great
trade-in
value.
We
budget
the
$6,000,
treating
and
value
on
these
trucks
because
we
literally
wear
holes
through
the
steel
on
the
sides
and
so
forth
after
us,
seven
years
on
routes,
literally
and
so
I
think
that's
a
great
trade
in
value.
So.
E
D
A
D
We'll
move
on
to
the
95
gallon
garbage
containers
here
the
load
bid
that
meets
the
specification
is
from
northern
truck
equipment
of
Sioux
Falls
in
the
amount
of
$50,
an
88
cents.
We'd
recommend
awarding
this
bit
to
northern
truck
equipment
in
the
amount
of
$50
80
cents
per
container
delivered
to
Watertown,
and
this
is
the
cascade
container
and
we
have
purchased
this
container
multiple
times
over
the
years.
D
Of
course,
they've
got
to
meet
the
specs
for
me
to
recommend
awarding
them,
but
they
did
not
meet
the
Windtunnel
specification
and,
as
you
know,
and
the
windy
days
of
these
containers
tip
over
so
of
our
specification,
we
have
a
requirement
that
your
container
must
stand
up
to
a
40
mile,
an
hour
wind
from
the
front,
the
back
or
either
side,
and
we
hear
the
low
the
low
bid
amount.
The
4812
IPL,
incorporating
their
container
would
stand
up
to
a
37
mile.
D
Seidman
would
not
stand
up
to
a
40
by
our
side,
wind,
okay
and
whereas
the
the
low
bid
the
meet
suspect
the
cascade
from
northern
struck
equipment
that
stands
up
to
a
51
mile,
an
hour
side
wind.
So
that's
15
mile
an
hour
more
wind
than
this
other
container
from
a
side
wind.
It's
very
important
to
these
containers.
As
you
know,
they
do
blow
over
from
time
to
time
as
it
is
and
similarly
from
the
front
in
the
back,
the
the
low
bid
that
IPL
container
will
meet
the
40.
D
D
D
D
A
A
D
There's
no
trade
in
the
used
unit
will
be
transferred
for
the
fire
department
and
so
we'd
recommend
awarding
this
bid
to
Watertown
Ford
in
the
amount
of
twenty
nine
thousand
one
hundred
and
eighty
four
dollars-
and
this
is
for
the
RAM
2500
tradesman
crew,
cab,
3/4
ton,
affordable
drive,
we
bought
two
of
these
trucks
last
year
and-
and
this
is
actually
just
two
hundred
ninety
ninety
one
dollars
more
than
it
was
for
each
truck
last
year.
I
checked
it
against
the
state
bid.
D
It
didn't
have
a
long
box
which
we,
which
we're
buying
here
was
respect,
but
the
state
bid
for
a
short
box
was
a
hundred
and
eight
dollars
more
and
I
also
looked
at
the
National
Auto
Group
for
their
prices
and
this
price
beat
them
all.
So
it's
this
best
price
out
there
and
it's
a
local
price.
So
great.
A
E
H
You
mayor
Pete,
would
you
put
my
screen
up?
It's
been
a
while,
since
we
looked
at
this
so
just
to
kind
of
refresh
everybody's
memory
and
where
the
shooting
range
is,
this
is
20th
Avenue,
south
east
or
the
truck
bypass,
as
we
all
like
to
call
it
by
17th
Street
southeast
is
going
north
here
it
comes
out
up
by
the
Watertown
Ford.
This
is
the
where
we
built
the
new
softball
complex
in
the
stormwater
pond
is
that
portion
and
the
Soccer
Complex
is
up
here
to
the
north
as
well.
H
So
big
Sioux
River
bounds,
this
property
on
the
west
and
Willow
Creek
bounds
it
on
the
east.
The
primary
portion
of
the
shooting
gun
range
will
be
up
in
this
former
area
used
by
the
wastewater
plant
I'm
going
to
switch
views
here
a
little
bit.
This
is
the
most
recent
footprint.
If
you
will
it's
a
little
bit
hard
to
see
and
as
it
was
a
copy
of
a
dark
photo,
but
this
depicts
two
pistol
ranges
to
the
west
and
two
rifle
ranges
to
the
east
and
out
here,
that's
not
shown
is
a
shotgun
range.
D
H
A
H
So
then,
the
latest
round
of
cost
estimates
that
we
received
to
do
the
two
pistol
bays
and
the
two
rifle
base
in
shotgun
area.
That
current
estimate
is
eight
hundred
and
twenty
three
thousand
eight
hundred
and
twelve
dollars.
There
is
a
notable
10
percent
contingency,
which
is
standard
procedure
by
estimating
procedures
with
the
game,
fish
and
parks
and
other
government
agencies.
So
there's
a
factor
of
75,000
in
there
roughly
current
labor
and
materials
is
estimated
at
approximately
750,000.
H
So
with
that,
there
are
some
things
in
here
that
we've
identified
that
possibly
could
be
done
by
local
entities.
We
haven't
vetted
those
out
quite
yet
so
we're
just
using
these
raw
numbers,
as
the
the
discussion
point
so
again,
800
23,000
to
do
the
whole
project
as
presented,
we
did
look
at
reducing
the
one
rifle
Bay
out
of
the
bids
for
now,
and
that
would
reduce
the
price
to
this.
H
A
A
It
let's
talk
game
fish
and
parks
has
been
very
helpful
and
I'm
working
on
this
project.
They
want
it
as
much
as
we
do
and
they've
offered
that
if
we
can
come
up
with
75,000
to
bridge
that
gap
of
$300,000,
they
will
find
the
other
225
and
so
that's
an
offer.
That
is
a
really
awesome
offer,
and
this
is
a
very
important
project
to
our
community
into
the
whole
region.
Really
and
it's
a
kind
of
a
unique
project
to
have
a
game.
Fish
and
parks
partner
with
I
mean
municipality.
To
do
this,
you
know
we're.
A
We
can
cut
back
on
what
we
build
and
not
get
entirely.
What
we
want
on
this
outdoor
range
about
it,
but
I'm
thinking
that,
with
some
careful
planning
and
Shane
was
gonna,
we
did
have
some
offers.
I
don't
know
if
you've
had
a
chance
to
see
if
that
offers
still
good,
we've
had
some
offer
of
help
from
local
businesses
to
participate
in
the
cost.
On
some
of
these
items
that
you
can
see,
if
you
have
eagle
eyes,
you
could
probably
read
that,
and
the
city
can
probably
do
some
of
the
work
as
well.
A
These
are
estimates
and
they
could
be
off
quite
a
bit.
We
don't
know
that
this
isn't
work
that
is
done
regularly
and
it's
it's
swings
with
with
conditions
how
busy
the
contractors
are
and
such,
but
anyway,
we
think
this
is
a
realistic
estimate
and
need
to
know
if
the
committee
thinks
that
we'll
be
able
to
find
75
thousand
dollars
more
than
our
budget
to
move
forward
with
this
and
Kristen
and
I
talked
about
it
a
little
bit,
and
we
think
that
we'll
be
able
to
do
that
within
our
to
12
budget.
A
E
A
Looked
at
any
of
that,
yet
this
is
purely
the
bid
came
out
all
right.
Well,
it's
not
a
bit.
Excuse
me.
The
estimate
from
the
final
design
is
higher
than
our
budget.
So
at
this
point
we
think
that
we
will
probably
be
able
to
build
the
project
even
with
the
extra
amount
we'll
be
able
to
find
the
money
game.
Fish
and
parks
is
coming
up
with
the
lion's
share
of
the
overage.
A
We
may
come
in
quite
a
bit
lower,
we
don't
know,
and
if
we
go
out
to
bid
on
this
project
and
we
have
a
an
even
more
serious
shortfall.
That
would
be
the
time
to
start
soliciting
I
mean
we
can
ask
people
to
be
prepared
to
jump
in
and
help
us
or
I
mean
that'll,
be
a
bridge
we'll
have
to
cross
once
the
bids
are
open.
We
haven't
gone
to
bed.
Yet
this
is
a
design
level
estimate
how.
E
E
A
F
F
A
Knowing
that
close
in
the
perimeter
of
this
not
like
you
could
just
drive
around
the
gate,
though
this
is
built
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
bring
the
GIS
back.
This
is
an
area
that
was
former
sewer
ponds
and
there
are
berms
in
there
a
lot
of
high
spots
and
the
road
will
be
pretty
high.
This
is
in
the
floodplain,
and
so
it
won't
be
easy
to
go
around.
A
H
Okay,
you
can
look
here
if
there's
a
fence
along
the
existing
north
border
of
it,
and
so
that
fence
could
stay
in
place
and
then
we
would
put
a
gate
like,
what's
here,
only
probably
a
little
easier
to
navigate.
This
is
the
current
gate
that
goes
into
the
site
right
here,
so
we
we
have
a
gate.
We
might
look
at
whether
this
is
a
good
enough
gate
or
not
right
now.
This
has
got
a
chain
and
a
padlock
that
which
isn't
the
ideal
case,
but
it
might
be
good
enough
for
what
we're
gonna
do.
H
But
if
we
make
this
wider,
that's
where
that
gate
would
maybe
come
into
play
or
not,
but
there
is
fence
already
we're
thinking
that
if,
for
instance,
if
there's
going
to
be
high
water,
that
we
would
want
to
keep
people
out
of
the
floodplain
in
there,
maybe
or
if
there's
an
event
that
we're
particularly
interested
in
protecting
the
folks
that
would
be
north
of
here,
we
could
close
it
down
for
a
few
hours
of
a
period
of
during
a
tournament
or
something
I
mean
we
could
control
it.
If
we
choose
to
do.
J
A
A
A
A
True
costs
are
and
I
don't
know
if
it
same
kind
of
alluded
there.
There
were
two
estimates
given
one
was
for
a
reduced
project
and
it
does
require
a
little
bit
different
design
and
the
game
fish
and
parks
on
today,
I'd
inform
us
at
which
direction
we
were
planning
to
go.
It
isn't
as
simple
as
just
doing
it
with
an
alternate.
We
would
prefer
to
bid
it
out
with
an
alternate,
but
if
we
can
build
this
whole
project,
then
I
think
that's.
A
C
Would
agree
with
madam
mayor
because
we've
been
talking
about
a
gun
range
for
a
very
long
time.
We
have
people
who
have
been
really
looking
forward
to
being
able
to
use
it
in
addition
to
the
citizens
and
I
think
you're
right.
If
we
have
an
opportunity
to
partner
with
another
organization,
in
addition
to
our
own
or
departments
that
would
need
to
use
it
I
think
we
should
work
with
them
and
take
advantage
of
their
generous
offer
and
I
think
to
do
anything.
Less
would
kind
of
be
a
I.
Don't
slap
in
the
face
to.
D
C
A
F
A
A
H
A
A
G
B
G
I
understood
at
one
time,
Lake
area
was
really
interested
when
I
was
going
to
those
meetings.
Lake
area
was
really
interested
in
a
building
building
it,
as
well
as
providing
ground
dirt
work
and
so
on.
Is
that
still
an
option,
or
when
did
that
disappear,
that
they
were
willing
and
able
to
do
that?
We.
H
Did
fully
vet
that
out
and
Lee
probably
has
a
little
bit
more
to
add
to,
but
that
discussion
was
that
the
timing
of
the
students
and
their
availability
relative
to
the
construction
timeline
that
we
would
want
for
a
project
like
this
didn't
overlap
very
well.
So
they
they
don't
do
work
during
the
summer
time.
They
do
work
in
the
early
spring
and
in
the
fall,
and
you
know
for
us
to
practically
go
after
a
project
of
this
size.
It
wouldn't
work
well
to
incorporate
their
work.
L
Or
work
with
them
to
do
it
on
their
time
frame
because
the
biggest
issues
always
has,
we
really
don't
know
what
time
frame
of
building
it.
So
it's
hard
to
for
the
instructors
they
try
to
get
their
curriculum
out
of
year
ahead
of
time.
So
if
we
have
something
down
the
road
we
want
to
add
I'm
sure
they
do
want
to
work
with
us.
A
K
I've
got
to
follow
the
question
to
what
you
just
asked
Dan
and
maybe
that's
what
I
had
in
my
mind
too,
but
I
thought
the
last
time
we
visited
the
visit
of
this
issue.
I
know
it's
been
some
time.
I
thought
too
had
other
partners
that
were
looking
at
possibly
coming
on
board
to
help
pay
this
other
than
the
offer
from
the
game.
Fish
and
parks
on
the
differential
am
I
mistaken,
a
matter
no.
H
We
did
okay,
really
and
I-
don't
mean
to
make
this
on
flippant
or
anything
like
that,
but
early
on,
we
basically
vetted
any
and
all
options.
We
even
talked
about
the
National
Guard
and
their
equipment
coming
in
and
working
and
and
different
things
like
that.
I
mean
this
was
a
really
big
scope
project
that
we
wanted
to
involve
as
many
partners
as
we
could
and
by
the
time
we
shut
down
all
the
details
out,
the
National
Guard
wasn't
going
to
be
able
to
be
available.
H
It
wasn't
going
to
be
practical
for
La
Ti,
some
dirt
work
people
to
efficiently
work
on
this
project,
so
we
did
have
all
those
discussions
and
that's.
This
is
what
it's
boiled
down
to
is
where
we're
at
today
and
I
do
have
one
partner
to
reach
out
to
to
see
if
they
want
to
cost
share
in
it.
They
committed
to
this
project
before
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
reengage
them
to
get
a
confirmation
on
that.
H
H
The
outside
range
was
really
heavily
driven
by
game,
fish
and
parks,
and
that
grant
funds
that
they
made
available
to
us,
and
so
really
this
whole
scope
of
the
project
is
now
focused
on
the
outdoor
range
and
using
those
grant
funds
and
look
other
local
funds
to
get
this
project
built,
and
that's
where
we're
at
today.
Okay,.
K
I
J
A
A
E
A
E
A
Those
opposed,
say,
nay,
motion
carries
Thanks.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Item
number.
Six
is
consideration
of
change
order
number
one
for
the
wastewater
treatment
facility,
digester
rehabilitation,
project
number,
1612,
Shane.
You
want
to
take
that
and
Mike's
here.
If
there
are
any
questions
or
are
you
gonna
handle
that
Mike
even.
H
So
we
recommend
adding
three
days
to
the
contract
for
that
as
well.
I'll
say
that
the
overall
change
order
results
in
an
increase
in
the
contract
price
of
seven
thousand
seven
hundred
and
thirty-five
dollars
84
cents
and
adds
eight
days
to
the
count.
Ragtime
and
I'll.
Leave
that
that,
if
you
have
any
specific
questions,
Mike
can
help
with
the
details.
All.
A
Right
is
there
a
motion
to
recommend
approval
second
by
Danforth
second,
by
lawan,
any
discussion
or
questions
see
none
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye,
all
right,
pulsing,
a
fiber
sing,
nay
motion
carries
Thanks
item
number.
8.
Is
consideration
of
item
number
7
consideration
of
amendment
number
1
to
the
agreement
with
HR
green
to
include
construction
administration
and
observation
for
the
waste
water
treatment
facility,
bio
solids,
dewatering
improvements,
project,
number,
17
15,
whose
taking
this
one.
I
A
D
And
one
thousand
dollars
is
the
amount
we
budgeted
for
these
construction
services.
I
guess
the
actual
price
at
the
end
of
the
project
will
vary
depending
upon
the
hours
they
put
in
could
be
a
little
less
could
be
a
little
bit
more
of
it.
This
is
the
budgeted
amount
for
the
construction
observation
on
this
project.
I
mean
it's
about
nine
point:
five
percent
of
the
bid
price,
so,
okay
and
one.
H
E
H
Thank
You
mayor
I,
reached
out
to
infrastructure
design
group
because
they're,
primarily
working
on
the
bike
trail
in
the
same
I,
felt
that
they
would
be
a
good
fit
to
incorporate
this
work
into
their
scope
of
that
a
little
bit
earth
into
the
same
region.
If
you
look
at
the
drawing
that
that
I
have
up
on
the
my
screen,
this
area
right
here
that
you
see
is
where
the
some
erosion
of
the
bank
and
the
slope
this
Bank
is
left
into
the
Marina
Bay
right
here.
H
What's
happening
is
a
couple
things
there's
a
there
is
a
culvert
that's
supposed
to
come
through
here,
but
it
must
be
partially
filled
or
isn't
efficiently
moving
water
from
this
side
of
Marina
Bay
Drive
into
the
marina,
and
so
it
spills
out
over
here
and
it's
causing
some
erosion.
So
we
want
to
look
at
that.
Get
that
Bank
restabilized.
Also
there's
a
homemade
guardrail
right
here,
and
you
can
see
that
we've
put
monster
blocks
in
there
to
kind
of
create
a
temporary
guardrail
extension.
H
So
we're
also
going
to
look
at
whether
the
guardrail
can
be
extended
in
this
location.
So
with
that,
we
asked
idg
to
put
together
a
proposal
for
us
that
our
proposal
is
six
thousand
dollars
which
is
fairly
reasonable.
They're
gonna
work
with
the
permitting
with
the
Corps
for
that
fee
as
well,
so
should
be
a
good
fit.
This.
A
E
A
E
A
A
We
require
detention,
ponds
and
storm
water
quality
ponds
as
a
for
development
and
any
kind
of
development
that
creates
an
acre
of
impervious
surface
and
these
facilities
usually
go
at
the
bottom
of
a
property
at
the
low
end
and
in
some
cases
they're
in
the
floodplain
and
the
floodplain
is
not
caused
by
the
facility.
We're
talking
about
the
floodplain
for
a
river
or
a
lake,
and
the
floodplain
will
have
different
recurrence
levels
of
flooding.
So
a
100-year
flood
is
a
pretty
major
flood
a
ten
year.
A
A
If
we
put
a
stormwater
facility
in
the
floodplain,
it
will
be
inundated
at
times
from
the
whatever
the
major
water
body
is
and
at
what
level
are
we
comfortable
doing
that
allowing
the
storm
pond
to
be
inundated
now,
if
it's
next
to
a
river
or
a
stream
like
the
Willow
Creek
that
he's
showing
here
water
could
be
moving.
So
if
it's,
if
the
pond
structure
itself
is
under
water,
it
would
be
saturated
which
weakens
the
soil
and
then
moving
water
next
to
it
could
possibly
tear
it
out.
A
So
if
it's
next
to
a
lake,
you
don't
have
the
current,
but
you
would
have
wave
action
and
the
waves
could
wash
away
an
earthen
structure.
Most
of
these
are
earthen
structures,
so
we
we
actually
have
one
that's
been
proposed
in
this
area
in
the
Willow
Creek
floodplain
for
the
Morris
addition
and
part
of
East
Park
addition
drains
to
it,
and
the
question
is
at
what
frequency
are
we
comfortable
allowing
this
facility
which
the
city
taxpayers
will
be
responsible
for
owning
and
maintaining
to
inundate
and
potentially
be
washed
away?
A
H
Yeah
apologize
for
the
we
didn't
weren't
able
to
reach
a
lot
of
folks.
They
were
busier
or
tied
up
at
the
time.
We
did
talk
to
attempted
to
talk
to
Mitchell
Aberdeen
here
on
Sioux
Falls,
pier
in
Yankton,
a
couple
of
them
weren't
able
to
get
back
to
us.
Mitchell's
response
was
that
they
haven't
had
to
deal
with
this
type
of
issue.
To
date
they
probably
will
at
some
point
in
their
history.
H
Huron
also
said
it
has
not
come
up,
but
most
of
huron
is
much
higher
than
the
James
River
Valley.
So
may
not
be
a
huge
issue.
There
Aberdeen
says
they
have
not
had
to
deal
with
this
yet,
but
they
felt
that
if
they
had
to,
they
would
allow
it
and
would
ask
for
documentation
on
how
the
pond
would
function
in
case
of
a
flood,
and
so
they
didn't
say
that
they
wouldn't
allow
it,
but
they
haven't
actually
approved
one
yet
either.
H
H
I
would
like
to
share
a
little
document
that
we
put
together
just
to
kind
of
give
you
an
idea,
and
this
kind
of
surprised
us
a
little
bit
what
we
plotted
the
lineal
or
it
turned
out
to
be
linear,
mostly
literal,
but
this
blue
line
represents
the
Willow
Creek
floodplain
study
that
was
done
a
number
of
years
ago,
and
these
dots
represent
the
five-year
ten-year
50,
100
and
500
year
flood.
It's.
H
Yeah
yeah
the
scales
kind
of
whacked,
but
anyway
that's
what
we
put
together
and
then
what
we
did
is
just
for
purposes
of
discussion.
We
took
and
extrapolated
to
15
20,
25,
30
and
35
40.
You
know
all
the
in-betweens
by
5
years
kind
of
give
us
an
idea
and
there's
a
nice
little
grouping
here.
If
you
look
at
the
50
year
on
study
talks
about
an
elevation
of
1727
0.74
and
then,
if
you
look
at
the
grouping
between
30
and
45
30
starts
at
one.
H
A
A
A
C
I
first
saw
this
item
on
the
agenda.
It
looked
to
me
like
an
oxymoron
storm
pond
in
a
floodplain
I,
guess
that
when
we
were
talking
about
how
much
increase
in
height,
we
would
need
to
change
what
effect
it
would
a
flooding
would
have
on
it.
You
know
I
think
that
was
helpful
information.
How
ever
what
does
that
then
do
to
the
function
of
the
storm
pond?
You
know
how
high
can
a
storm
pond
be
and
not
really
be
effective
as
a
storm
pond
anymore?
It.
G
A
More
of
a
physical,
if
we,
this
is
a
regional
pond,
which
we
support
the
developers
doing
that.
If,
if
this
were
serving
one
property,
it
would
be
their
pond,
they
would
own
it
forever
and
if
it
washed
away,
they
have
to
rebuild
it.
Then
we
don't
care
if
they
want
to
put
it
in
a
location,
that's
hazardous
for
its
survival.
A
If
they
can
push
in
it,
they
can't
develop
the
creek,
but
it's
so
it's
you
know
they
can
use
it
for
something
if
they
can
put
their
flood
if
their
pond
there,
if
they
have
to
put
it
farther
away
from
the
creek
that
might
be
area,
they
could
put
a
building
on
so
from
their
perspective.
They
just
assume
put
it
just
as
close
to
the
creek
as
possible.
Adam.
H
A
A
J
F
F
A
F
We
may
be
just
saying
by
doing
this:
that's
okay,
because
I
mean
that
it's
okay,
that
it
doesn't
perform
and
that
just
doesn't
seem
right
to
me.
The
other
thing
is
Donna.
Had
the
same
question
is
then,
if
we're
going
to
consider
this
in
any
way,
shape
or
form,
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
higher
degree
of
construction
that
best
ensures
they
don't
come
to
image.
I,
don't
think
we
can
just
because
it
seems
to
me
like
it's,
it's
very
case-by-case
oriented.
F
You
know,
we've
got
we're
talking
about
this
place,
but
if
we
open
this
requirement
up,
we've
got
other
places
that
this
is
going
to
come
into
play
at
some
point
and
some
places
may
be
more
apt
to
flooding
or
different
levels
or
kinds
of
flooding
than
this.
One
I
don't
know
that,
but
I'm
just
saying,
I
I
think
we're
walking
a
line
that
I'm
not
very
comfortable
with
because
of
the
unknown
and
I
understand
that
development
costs
and
such
and
I
understand
trying
to
use
the
lowland
areas.
A
K
You
know
I
said
in
the
meeting
that
precipitated
this
conversation
tonight
along
with
Councilman.
Why,
as
I
understand
it,
though,
what
one
one
off
of
the
developer
is
that
if
we
don't
go
to
a
regional
pond,
each
individual
parcel
would
be
responsible
for
its
its
own
retention.
Is
that
correct?
That's.
K
Mean
that
that
concerns
me
from
if
nothing
else
from
aesthetic
standpoint
was
what
it's
going
to
look
like.
If
all
of
a
sudden
we've
got
a
whole
host
of
individual
locations
out
there
trying
to
serve
this
purpose
and
I
posed
this
question
last
week,
when
we
met,
can
it
not
be
a
case
where
we're
maintenance
of
that
still
still
goes
with
the
land
that
that's
a
restriction
or
a
covenant
on
that
lamb?
That,
as
as
time
goes
by,
that,
still
remains
of
an
obligation
on.
A
I
will
say
this
is
not
a
Watertown
South
Dakota
issue.
This
is
a
federal
law
that
we
do
these
water
quality
facilities,
every
city,
our
size
and
larger,
has
to
do
this
and
having
regional
water
quality
facilities
is
not
a
standard
thing.
Having
regional
flood
ponds
is
that's
pretty
standard.
Those
are
much
larger.
This
is
a
two
year
storm
capacity,
not
a
hundred
year.
We
let
the
hundred
year
flow
pass
out
quickly
in
the
Willow
Creek
watershed,
because
it's
a
large
watershed
and
holding
back
the
peak
on
the
greater
storms
only
exacerbates
the
flood.
A
So
we're
only
talking
about
a
two
year
event
that
that's
the
day
to
day
storms
that
carry
most
of
the
pollutants
and
caused
most
of
the
erosion
problems.
So
these
are
done
all
over
the
place.
Most
communities
or
developers
try
to
incorporate
the
ponds
into
their
landscaping
so
that
you
can't
see
them.
You
don't
have
to
incorporate
it
into
your
landscaping.
You
can
carve
a
rectangular
hole
and
that
meets
our
requirements,
but
a
lot
of
developers
try
to
make
them
attractive
and
make
an
amenity
out
of
them.
I
haven't
seen
that
done
in
Watertown.
A
Very
much,
but
you
do
see
that
in
the
cities
where
they
they
don't
have
a
lot
of
they,
they
don't
want
an
ugly
weed-filled
rectangle
on
their
property.
So
this
isn't
only
our
issue.
I
think
many
communities
would
just
say
no
to
putting
it
in
the
floodplain.
But
we
don't
say
no
we're
just
saying
now
went
that
we're
being
asked
the
question:
what
are
we
comfortable
with?
We
don't
have
guidance
and
I
would
like
to
hear
from
the
council.
A
You
know
what
your
comfort
level
is
and-
and
we
weren't
sure
there'd
be
enough
time
to
really
resolve
this
in
the
public
works
committee
and
we're
planning
to
bring
it
up
under
new
business
at
the
end
of
the
council
meeting
for
a
little
bit
of
further
discussion,
if
you're
not
comfortable
yet-
and
we
can
even
bring
it
back
later,
but
we've
got
a
design
right
now
in
the
city's
hands
for
review.
That's
proposed
to
be
in
inundated
on
a
10
to
15
year,
frequency
and.
A
I'm
not
comfortable
with
that,
but
I
you
know.
I
I
would
like
to
hear
your
input,
because
this
really
isn't
an
engineering
question.
This
is
a
question
of
practicality.
We
are
taking
this
over
as
taxpayers
to
maintain
this
and
it
may
not
wash
out.
It
may
be
just
fine
and
it
may
not
be
once
every
10
to
15
years.
Those
are
just
statistical
estimates.
It
could
be
once
every
200
years
or
it
could
be
every
other
year,
but
by
standard
engineering
procedures.
G
Know
it
aesthetically,
it
would
not
be
real
nice,
but
you
know
put
that
steel
berm
out
the
lake
with
the
idea.
That's
going
to
last
for
a
long
time.
Mm-Hmm
that
could
be
could
put
really
pretty
close
to
the
to
a
water
shed
of
some
sort.
That
I
know
it
wouldn't
be
pretty
I,
don't
know
how
you
make
them
pretty,
because
we
have
them
in
the
lake
right.
A
G
A
E
C
I
think
some
good
points
excuse
me
were
raised.
I
agree
with
Adam
I,
believe
some
good
points
were
raised
in
terms
of
Mike
made
a
you
know
point
that
it's
a
case-by-case
basis
done
and
some
of
the
others
have
talked
about
requirements
for
the
construction
itself.
You
know,
depending
on
where
it's
located,
so
you
had
a
case-by-case
basis.
You
have
its
location
and
then
you
have
what
kind
of
requirements
are
you
going
to
put
on
this
particular
storm
pond
based
on
its
location
and
how
much
storm
water
it
needs
to
hold
right.
A
And
and
just
keep
in
mind
that
armoring
it
doing
a
sheet
pile
wall
or
anything
like
that
drives
the
cost
of
development
up
even
moving
it
outside
of
the
floodplain
drives
the
cost
of
development
up.
So
that's
that's.
Why
I'm
bringing
it
to
you!
This
is
controversial
because
of
that
councilman
Villar
I
want.
K
F
Would
appear
to
me
like
what
we
should
do,
we
should
either
vote
on
it
one
way
or
the
other
and
then
bring
it
back
under
at
least,
we've
made
a
vote
on
it,
because
that's
what
we're
being
asked
to
do.
That's
why
we're
not
doing
this
in
the
work
session
right,
because
we
we
don't
want
to
make
a
vote
at
at
that
level.
Without
this.
A
H
The
ultimate
outcome
was
what
we,
what
we
would
desire
is
whatever
vote
or
information
we
get
from.
The
council
is
expected
to
be
a
recommendation
for
us
to
review
our
BMP
manual
update
it
to
include
this
topic
so
that
we
have
the
equipment
and
the
measurements
or
whatever
you
want,
or
criteria
whatever.
We
want
to
call
it
to
look
at
these
in
the
future,
because
we
have
enough
flood
plains
between
Willow
Creek
Robie
Creek,
the
Big
Sioux
River
and
Lake
Camp
Eska,
that
this
will
not
be
the
only
time
this
right.
A
A
Up
this
came
up
on
the
stony
point
development
because
they
were
putting
the
pond
below
the
flood
elevation.
So
it's
it's
going
to
come
up.
Watertown
has
extensive
floodplains
and
I
think
that
if
we
could
have
some
guidance
on
what
you're
comfortable
with
we
can
not
stall
this
project
out
for
the
developer,
Colin
I.
M
Just
we've
had
this
discussion
now
for
the
last
two
working
days
of
what
would
be
acceptable
in
our
minds.
I'm,
not
saying
that
that
means
much,
but
to
me
talking
with
Shane
as
we
take
on
roads
that
the
developers
make
and
we
have
to
redo
those
roads
after
a
certain
period
of
time
and
I'm,
not
saying
that
this
is
the
same,
because
this
could
with
storm
events.
It's
very
touchy
with
the
storm.
J
Hey
councilman
Roby
I
could
appreciate
that
point.
I
think
words
differs
a
little
bit
is
in
this
instance
in
10
15
20
25
years.
We
have
a
flood
event
and
it
washes
that
structure
away
now
I
got
how
many
businesses
with
water
damage
and
who
potentially
has
to
make
compensation
for
that
either
us
or
our
insurance
companies.
How
I'm
looking
at
that
correct?
Well,.
A
J
The
second
thing
I
was
thinking
of
it
again:
10
15
25
years,
whenever
the
event
happens,
and
then
whatever
the
cost
are
I'm
trying
to
think
what
that
City
Council
would
be.
Thinking
is
gee.
Why
do
we
have
to
pay
for
this?
Wasn't
that
part
of
the
the
project?
Wasn't
there
a
holding
pond
in
there
and
it
looks
like
it
wasn't
constructed
well
enough
to
withstand
this
type
of
event.
And
now
here
we
are,
as
a
council
15
years
down
the
road
saying.
Well,
we
have
to
allocate
money
for
it.
I
haven't.
L
F
F
A
level
but
I,
you
know
really,
you
know,
but
probably
good
lord
willing
by
the
time
that
thing
would
ever
wash
out
I'm
gonna,
probably
be
in
a
nursing
home
or
something.
But
then
I
can
look
back
and
say
I
remember
when,
but
you
know,
we
don't
know
what
those
costs
are.
You
know
that's
the
hard
thing
for
me
right
now.
Are
we
talking
a
$5,000
bill,
or
are
we
talking
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
bill
and
again
I?
Look
at
it?
F
A
I
A
We
haven't
heard
the
Corps
of
Engineers,
yet
if
this
is
going
to
require
wetland
mitigation,
because
that
makes
if
they
are
going
to
be
required
to
do
wetland
mitigation
I'm
guessing
they
will
abandon
this
site
and
choose
one
upland
because
wetland
mitigation
is
expensive,
the
actual
dirt
moving.
This
is
probably
not
an
expensive
item,
but
it's
kind
of
an
inaccessible
location,
sometimes
depending
on-
and
this
may
not
be
that
inaccessible,
but
once
you've
set
the
president,
you
allow
it
in
the
floodplain.
A
K
M
Well,
I
guess
there
wasn't
too
much
more
to
say
on
that.
It
and
I
think
mike
has
a
valid
point
as
well
saying
what
he
said,
and
that
comes
back
to
the
statistics.
You
don't
know
when
this
is
gonna
wash
out
or
if
it
is
ever
gonna
wash
out.
You
really
have
no
idea
and
looking
at
the
plans,
looking
at
all
this
data
from
this
Willow
Creek
study
and
trying
to
interpolate
all
this
data.
M
A
F
What
I
want
to
use
culvert
out
there
coming
off
a
212
on?
Was
it
26?
Yes,
now
I'm,
assuming
we're
going
with
concrete
culvert,
because
we
believe
that
that's
gonna
withstand
the
test
of
time
in
flooding
conditions
correct?
Yes,
we
could
have
said
the
heck
with
it.
Let's
just
put
a
couple
of
round
metal
ones
through
there
that
meet
the
capacity
and
we'll
just
deal
with
the
thing
later.
We
could
have
done
that,
so
my
analogy
here
is
doing
what
we're
doing
without
something
that
says.
F
Construction
wise,
it
needs
to
sustain,
is
like
us
making
the
same
to
the
decision
to
put
metal
culverts
under
that,
and
we
chose
not
to
do
that.
We
felt
it
was
the
right
thing
to
do
the
best
thing
to
do
for
the
public.
In
this
case,
it's
the
public
dollars
right
and
I
would
say
it's
the
same
thing
different
issue.
It's
the
same
thing
analogy
is
the
same
right.
A
A
K
A
F
Aren't
we
gonna,
isn't
it
gonna
come
down
to,
but
then
they
could
do
that
anyway
right,
but
doesn't
it
really
come
down
to
that?
If
you
have
one
large
unit
versus
multiple,
smaller
ones
that
are
developed
properly,
the
one
large
ones
probably
going
to
be
more
of
an
eyesore
than
the
smaller
ones
that
are
landscaped
properly
right.
A
If
each
property
does
it
on
their
own,
we
aren't
responsible
as
taxpayers,
to
maintain
it.
The
landowner
is,
and
that
runs
with
the
land
forever
when
they
sell
it.
Someone
else
the
new
person
assumes
that
responsibility
so
we're
taking
on
an
extra
burden
by
allowing
the
regional
facility
that's
a
benefit
to
the
developers
more
than
a
benefit
to
the
taxpayers
and
the
taxpayers
get
the
water
quality
benefit
either
way,
they
also
get
the
expense.
A
Should
be
the
backing
water
up
in
it
yeah
so
I
I
think
we
need
to
take
a
little
break
that
we
did
have
an
update
on
the
assessment
projects
on
the
agenda
as
old
business
and
we
can
move
that
to
the
council
meeting
under
old
business
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
new
business
or
a
reason
to
go
into
executive
session.
So
I
look
for
a
motion
to
adjourn
moved
by
mantillas
ii
by
Danforth.
All
those
in
favor,
say,
aye,
I
was
opposed,
say,
nay,
motion
carries
were
adjourned.