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From YouTube: Public Works Finance & Safety Meeting 12 03 2018
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Public Works / Finance / Safety Committee agenda for 12-3-2018
A
Good
afternoon
like
to
call
to
order
the
public
works,
Finance
and
Safety
Committee
meeting
of
Monday
December
3rd
2018.
First
item
on
the
agenda
is
approval
of
the
consent
agenda.
Their
motion,
second
for
approval
moved
by
Bueller
second,
by
y,
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay
motion
carries
item.
2
is
public
input,
and
this
is
the
time
set
aside
for
anyone
to
come
forward.
A
A
Second
biwi,
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
It
was
a
post
signify
by
saying,
nay,
motion
carries
item.
4
is
discussion
on
the
proposed
certificate
of
completion
for
development,
improvements
for
East,
Park
development,
8th
Avenue,
South
East
and
a
portion
of
26th
Street
southeast
and
a
resolution
of
acceptance
for
8th
Avenue
and
we're
following
our
ordinance
carefully
as
written,
and
this
isn't
something
we
normally
do,
but
so
I
asked
Heath.
A
B
In
a
nutshell,
the
best
way
easiest
way
to
describe
this
is
our
current
subdivision.
Regulations
have
a
project
closeout
process
in
place.
That
closeout
process
includes
these
two
steps
that
I
just
briefly
acknowledged
here
that
are
coming
up
on
tonight's
agenda,
the
first
step
being
a
certificate
of
completion.
What
that
is,
is
it
means
staff
has
inspected
that
work
from
the
developers
contractor
that
they
performed
as
was
permitted
and
that's
what
the
inspection
does.
B
B
B
It
is
in
again
upon
the
injured
city
engineer,
to
bring
forth
recommendation
to
City
Council
to
pass
a
resolution
of
acceptance
of
those
public
infrastructure
improvements
for
perpetual
city
ownership
and
maintenance.
They
become
ours
forever
to
want
to
maintain
at
that
point
now
the
reason
we're
doing
two
different
action
items
tonight,
because
obviously
there
isn't
going
to
be
years
lapse
in
time
tonight
for
your
warranty
to
occur.
B
However,
this
is
a
unique
project,
so
we're
the
eighth
Avenue
southeast
improvements
were
done
quite
some
time
ago
and
so
upon
our
inspection
to
say,
okay,
they're,
complete
will
issue
a
certificate
of
completion
in
talking
with
the
mayor
staff
and
I
were
very
comfortable
and
saying.
We
could
use
this
point
in
time.
To
start
or
to
formally
accept
those
because
they've
effectively
gone
through
a
year,
warranty
cycle,
if
not
closer
to
two
years,
for
the
eighth
Avenue
component,
only
so
again
to
wrapped
all
that
up.
B
A
D
B
The
regular
protocol
that
would
happen
is
any
any
of
the
engineering
staff
as
directed
by
the
City
Engineer
could
go
out
on
that
warranty.
Inspection
typically,
would
be
the
assistant
city
engineer.
If
he's
not
available,
I
could
see,
or
whatever
engineering,
specialist
or
engineering
technicians
be
involved
in
that
process.
B
But
what
we
do
is
we
communicate
and
coordinate
with
the
developer
or
their
engineer
and/or
their
contractor,
because
we
want
somebody
from
the
developers
side
of
the
discussion
present
during
these
walkthroughs,
whether
it
be
the
accept
a
completion,
walkthrough
or
the
warranty
walkthrough,
so
we
communicate
with
them.
We
set
up
and
schedule
this
walkthrough
with
them,
but
also
we've
gone
a
step
further
and
we're
inviting
the
street
department,
the
wastewater
department
and
municipal
utilities
as
well.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
water
lines
installed
weren't
disrupted.
B
They
can
still
get
their
valve
wrenches
on
their
valves
and
things
of
that
nature
before
we
accept
these
improvements
for
for
City
ownership
maintenance.
So
it's
a
it's
a
cumulative
effort
of
all
parties
that
it
should
be
involved
and
a
pendant
inspection
like
that.
But
it
is
spearheaded
through
the
city
engineer's
office
and
the
city,
engineering
staff.
E
Is
probably
a
separate
issue
but
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
concerning
a
payment
of
the
work
on
26th,
Street
and
I.
Believe
we
heard
into
a
cost-sharing
arrange
with
a
couple
different
parties
and
we
paid
par
that
I
mean.
Is
that
being
followed
up
on
him?
Has
that
been
he
had
adhere
to,
or
is
that
still
in
the
works
or.
B
Yes
of
that
payment
is
ongoing
and
according
to
that
development
agreement
that
was
executed,
I
forget
how
long
ago
the
responsibilities
of
the
development
agreement
fall
in
line
with
each
one
of
those
subdivided
Lots
out
there.
Each
one
of
those
Lots
adjacent
to
these
improvements
are
responsible
to
pay
a
cost
share.
There
has
been
one
and
that's
based
on
the
time
of
transaction
of
the
sale
of
those
Lots
you're.
A
Other
questions
or
comments
all
right.
Thank
you.
Heath
item
number.
Five
is
discussion
on
an
alley
paving
request
from
Mike's
Lance,
burger
and
I
meant
to
tell
Heath
where
this
is
and
the
are
you
able
to
access.
You've
got
your
drive
up
and
Ray
you
can.
You
could
switch
if
you
need
to,
but
I
see
mics
here
and
I
would
like
to
invite
Mike
to
approach
the
microphone
and
he's
within
your
packet.
You
can
see
the
request
that
he
made
to
the
city.
A
And
we
normally,
we
have
a
process
for
the
city
building
streets
through
by
way
of
assessment,
and
essentially
what
mike
is
asking
is
that
the
city
do
it
at
taxpayer
expense
the
initial
paving
of
the
gravel
alley,
because
he
believes
that
the
city
did
the
initial
paving
of
the
other
downtown
alleys
many
many
years
ago.
But
we
don't
have
any
evidence
of
that.
Maybe
Mike
does
that.
F
I,
don't
it's
just
that
you
know
back
in
the
50s
and
60s
the
downtown
district
kind
of
controlled
water
tone,
but
that's
where
all
the
major
businesses
were
I
think
every
new
car
dealer
was
downtown.
So
I
think
that
for
me
to
imagine
they
would
have
paid
for
that
assessment.
I,
don't
think
so.
The
new
policy
that
is
that
is
in
part,
that's
in
now
when
was
that
passed
watch
your
state.
A
F
F
You
know
we
all
the
business
people
that
have
something
that
here
are
Joe,
castor,
Larry
and
Reese.
Travis
Carney
and
Jethro
from
proline
is
representing
them,
but
you
know
we're
all
very
Pro
on
improving
downtown
Watertown
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
improvements
done
on
the
first
Avenue
area
and
you.
C
F
We've
watched
all
the
other
alleys
being
ripped
up
and
torn
taken
out
utilities
put
underground
and
and
I
talked
with
the
previous
administration.
He
promised
us
that
it
wouldn't
be
done,
but
that's
you
know
that
was
two
three
years
ago,
but
we
just
feel
that
this
would
be
an
easy
one
to
do
for
the
city
being,
there's
no
pavement
in
there
and
you
mentioned
Sarah
when
I
talked
to
you
the
last
time
that
utility
said
they
were
gonna,
bury
all
the
lines.
No.
F
F
You
know
we're
put
under
the
gun
a
little
bit,
we're
all
these
other
businesses
and
in
the
downtown
C
one
district
did
not
have
to
accommodate
to
as
far
as
assessments
having
to
work
out
the
utilities.
That
was
all
done
by
the
city.
You
know,
if
you
look
at
some
of
those
pictures
I
put
with
and
it
it
looks
like.
The
alley
probably
looks
the
same
as
a
dead
1920s
and.
A
The
city's
policy
is
whatever
the
adjacent
property
owners
build
and
dedicate
to
the
city.
We
maintain.
If
you
build
a
gravel
alley,
will
grade
it
and
maintain
it.
If
you
build
a
concrete
alley,
we'll
great
we'll
take
care
of
that.
If
it's
asphalt,
we
take
care
of
the
improvements
which
are
made
by
the
adjacent
property
owners
or
the
developer,
and
that's
that's
our
standard
procedure
in
the
alleys
that
we've
replaced
have
all
had
hard
surfacing,
but.
F
F
I
tell
you
what
it
I'm
familiar
with
the
downtown
area
and
a
lot
of
those
folks.
The
biggest
problem
with
downtown
is
the
folks
won't
spend
any
money
improving
their
properties
which,
for
whatever
reason
they
have
it's
their
choice.
You
know,
but
if,
if
the
facts
that
the
previous
facts
don't
match
the
current
policy
that
makes
the
the
policy
null
and
void
after
you've
replaced
all
those
alleys
downtown
and
made,
we
would
have
happily
taken
some
of
those
alleys.
F
A
G
A
And
this
is
what
I've
asked
Heath
to
bring
up.
Is
the
staff
was
directed
to
enumerate
all
the
gravel
streets,
not
alleys,
so
I'll
show
you
what
we
have
a
record
of,
and
did
you
find
that
that
if
you
could
put
on
the
gravel
streets
map
first,
okay,
that's
gravel
alleys?
These
are
the
gravel
alleys
that
we
have
in
town,
yeah,.
G
Well,
we
were
we've
had
a
discussion
on
this
previously
for
downtown
in
the
residential
or
in
the
commercial
district
within
the
urban
renewal
zone,
we're
starting
in
the
center
and
the
utilities
was
on
board
with
it.
That's
where
they
wanted
to
start
working
barring
underground
and
they
were
gonna
move
out
from
the
center
of
downtown
out
and
that's
I
guess
what
I
was
under
the
assumption
that
we
were
gonna.
A
A
These
are
the
gravel
roads
and
we
had
a
discussion
about
this
I
estimated,
like
four
million
dollars
to
pave
the
gravel
roads
in
town
and
we're
currently
in
the
process
of
prioritizing,
which
ones
we
would
do
first,
so
that
the
council
can
decide
if
they
want
to
subsidize
some
of
these.
Otherwise,
the
pavement
of
gravel
surfacing
is
the
responsibility
of
proper
yours.
But
if
you
want
to
add
the
gravel
alleys
to
that,
we
certainly
can
and
will
add
it
into
the
prioritization
and
now
Ethan
feel
switch
to
the
gravel.
G
H
H
A
F
Been
we've
but
we're
being
backdoored
on
they're,
showing
us
the
whole
city,
we're
being
backdoored
on
this
I'm
talking
about
just
the
c1
district
I
have
poured
a
ton
of
money
into
the
first
Avenue
project.
Cleaning
up
businesses
and
I've
got
I
brought
five
or
six
solid
businesses,
they're
solid
they're,
not
just
there
for
six
months
and
go.
We.
F
Speak
for
these
guys,
all
I
can
do,
is
speak
for
myself,
but
I
part
of
retirement
and
in
that
area,
and
it
was
the
worst
part
of
downtown
and
we're
not
given
any
credit
for
it.
It's
and
then
for
us
to
have
to
pay
for
other
folks
is
in
the
c1
district.
That's
all
I'm
talking
about
I!
Don't
want
to
hear
about
alleys
on.
F
A
F
F
F
E
Or
Matt
do
it?
Do
we
have
any
ability
to
go
back?
I
mean
I,
know
we're
going
we're
talking
a
lot
of
time
as
who
dictate
for
you,
no
previous
paving
of
alleys
and
in
the
downtown
area,
to
have
any
kind
of
records
that
I
mean
to
to
mr.
Lyons
burgers
point
that
that
we
can
either
substantiate
the
city's
position
or
or
what
what
did
happen.
Yeah.
B
B
B
But
I
can't
speak
to
today's
standards.
Obviously
it's
it's
a
pay-as-you-go
of
development
status
in
the
city.
If
somebody
wants
to
develop
their
land,
they
they
put
in
the
public
infrastructure.
As
we
all
know,
this
is
unique
and
that
its
existing
gravel
road
infrastructure
Colin
described
our
recent
alley
projects
fairly.
Clearly,
those
have
been
prioritized
based
on
replacement
pavement
only
I,
don't
believe
to
my
understanding,
Colin
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
we
have
not
paved
any
gravel
alleys.
Yet,
under
that
new
program
that
we've
initiated
in
the
recent
past,
we.
F
You
know
on
this
first
avenue:
first
Street
Northwest,
it's
on
those
copies
I
gave
you
that
water
runs
to
the
west
down
the
second
Street
that
water
ran
runs
into
all
of
our
property
because
the
alleys
had
so
much
gravel
put
over
it.
In
the
last
20
years,
I
spent
20,000
bucks
bringing
my
property
just
the
back
there
to
not
have
all
that
water
flow
into
my
parking
lot.
Another
thing
I
gotta
mention
too,
is
that
this
alley
that
runs
north
and
south
on
that
block
behind
the
old
symbols,
furniture-
that's
paved.
F
That
should
be
done
without
a
week
without
even
an
argument.
At
least
that
part,
you
know,
that's
that's
paved
there
and
you
know
all
I
feel
is
that
it's
grossly
unfair
and
you
know,
and
that
I
think
folks
I've
been
talking
to
and
dealing
with
agree
with
the
same.
It's
an
unfair
policy
and
we're
being
backdoor
it
in
on
on
residential
stuff
and
and
we're
not
being
treated
the
same
one
at
sea
ones,
and
we
we
play
penny
of
taxes
for
what
we
have
and
and
for
us
to
have
to
pay
for
other
folks
--is.
E
E
B
Would
be
a
slight
difference
in
cost
a
leery
pavement
versus
a
do
paving
installation,
although
not
not
a
huge
difference.
Monetarily
we
did
do
a
rough
estimate
on
this
particular
alley
of
fell
just
shy
of
$60,000,
but
you
do
have
to
remove
the
existing
surfacing,
albeit
it
is
gravel.
You
do
have
to
remove
that,
put
in
quality
base
course
and
then
pavement
an
existing
pay
valley.
You
typically
mill
that
surface
off
the
asphalt.
F
A
A
F
A
A
A
F
Tell
you
what
the
amount
of
money
they
spend
grabbling
and
stuff
over
the
last
25
30
years.
They
could
have
probably
paid
for
an
alley
and
when
they
do
it,
they
half
the
time
they
mess
it
up
instead
of
making
it
better,
they
make
it
worse.
With
the
plows
and
the
gravel
and
stuff
they
there's.
It's
not
laid
out.
Very
you
know
professionally,
just
dumped
down
and
spread.
A
G
If
we've,
if
we
have
no
record
of
that
and
we're
repaving
all
these
alleys,
downtown
I,
don't
know
how
we
can
exclude
this
one,
and
we
made
a
commitment.
It's
in
the
budget
every
year
to
redo
every
alley,
downtown
Watertown
and
that's
what
we've
been
talking
about
within
there
been
a
renewal
district
I.
G
Don't
know
why
this
one
would
be
any
different,
yeah,
it's
gravel,
but
if
it
was
paved,
we
would
still
tear
it
up
and
so
either
way,
even
if
this
alley
would
have
been
paved
and
we
have
no
idea
who
paid
for
it,
we
would
still
tear
it
up
and
be
like
so
we're
just
making
a
big
argument
out
of
leaving
one
alley
out
of
the
whole
project
down
here.
I.
A
B
A
That's
a
council
decision:
I,
don't
think
you
have
to
make
it
tonight,
but
you
we
have
your
request.
We
appreciate
it
and
I
think
we
should.
If
the
council
directs
the
staff
to
include
alleys
in
our
prioritization
database,
we
can
do
that
and
if
we
want
to
break
out
see
one
commercial
then
we
can
do
that
as
well
and
we
have
all
this
information
available.
It's
just
extra
stuff.
You.
F
A
F
B
A
E
Know
at
a
minimum
I
would
like
to
see
those
downtown
alleys
included
as
part
of
our
our
gravel
streets,
and
they
also
surround
tone
because
I,
you
know
I.
You
saw
what
John
said
to
that.
I
I
see
some
issues
of
unfair
as
they're
sure
we're
following
our
ordinance
or
state
law,
whatever
it
is,
but
by
the
same
token,
I
think
mr.
Lance
burger
makes
a
good
point
tonight,
but
I
would
like
to
see
that
added
to
our
list
of
streets
that
were
analyzing
at
home
is.
K
I
I
really
believe
that
the
spirit
and
the
intent
of
that
of
the
streets,
the
prioritization
of
the
streets
that
we
feel
might
need
to
be
paved
I.
Think
it's
a
separate
issue.
I,
think
that
when
that
the
spirit
and
intent
of
that
whole
program
was
for
streets,
not
for
alleys,
I
think
that's
a
separate
issue.
In
my
opinion,.
E
K
E
J
I
sat
on
the
h2
or
24
the
alleys
when
that
went
forward.
That
was
initially
a
agreement
between
utilities
in
the
city
to
do
those
utilities
are
the
ones
that
drive
the
boat
on
it.
I
mean
they're,
the
ones
that
are
burying
their
lines,
so
Mike
I
would
recommend
that
you
talk
to
them
and
see
if
they're.
F
J
That
is
an
option
because
they
would
bury
those
lines
before
any
street
workers
I
agree
and
that's
what
they've
done,
because
they've
been
the
ones
that
have
dictated
to
us
which
alleys
are
going
to
get
done
at
what
time
based
on
what
they
can
do
for
their.
You
know
their
crews
that
are
out
there
and
working
so
check
with
them
and
then
keep
us
informed.
F
J
H
I
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
we
do
follow
the
utilities
as
well.
We
contact
them
to
let
them
know
what
we
were
thinking
and
then
we
try
to
coordinate
what
alleys
exactly
so.
We've
already
done
that
for
next
year,
when
this
got
brought
up
as
a
possible
assessment,
they
were
either
gonna,
make
adjustments
or
try
to
figure
out
a
different
schedule
if
it
were
an
assessment,
but
we
do
coordinate
pretty
heavily
with
the
utilities
on
the
downtown.
F
F
I
told
said
that,
with
that
picture
up
there,
you
see
where
first
Avenue
first
Street
is
I,
should
say
first
Street
Northwest,
that
water
runs
probably
even
part
of
the
block
to
the
east,
and
that
runs
down
our
alley.
And
it's
like
say
it's
it's
it's
it's
a
big
mud
hole,
especially
in
the
spring
and
probably
in
the
fall
to
a
certain
point
when
the
thought
comes
out
in
the
spring
and
stuff,
but
we
have
no
drains
except
at
the
end
of
the
block
there
by
the
old
Berkeley
belly.
We.
F
D
A
Okay,
well,
we
can,
we
can
dig
into
the
records
and
see
if
we
can
find
who
initially
paid
for
the
other
ones
if
it
makes
a
difference,
but
it
sounds
like
for
some
people.
It
doesn't
matter,
they
see
the
downtown
alleys
as
a
higher
prey
for
subsidy
than
regular
streets
throughout
town
and
gravel
streets
are
not
paved
at
taxpayer,
expense,
they're
they're
paid
paved
at
the
expense
of
the
adjacent
property
owners
and
they're
the
primary
access
and
the
alley
would
be
secondary.
That's.
G
I,
don't
think
it's
an
issue
of
subsidizing
a
priority
or
anything.
We've
already
made
a
commitment
to
do
downtown
alleys.
We've
we've
already
done
ally,
ally,
x'
that
are
paved
or
a
concrete
already.
All
we're
doing
is
tearing
them
up
and
redoing
them.
So
we've
made
that
commitment
downtown
to
take
care
of
these
alleys
and
if
we're
gonna
do
95%
of
them,
we
might
as
well
do
all
of
them.
Just
because
one
alley
is
not
you
know
paved
doesn't
mean
we
it's
a
subsidy
that
we're
gonna.
G
A
All
right,
we'll
do
a
little
bit
of
research
see
if
we
can
dredge
up
some
data.
More
information
is
better
moving
on
is
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
discussion
on
the
proposed
resolution
to
set
aside
the
assessment
for
lot
11
injuries,
industrial
park,
third
edition,
26th,
Street,
southeast
assessment
project
and
I
will
ask
Matt
to
explain.
What's
going
on
with
this
one
Thank.
C
You
mayor,
so,
if
you
recall
a
couple
months
ago,
we
finalized
a
special
assessment
for
finishing
the
stretch
of
26th
Street
East
out
near
Walmart,
one
of
the
lots
out
there.
A
lot
11
is
owned
by
Warren
Development
LLC.
They
had
intended
to
subdivide
that
lot,
and
this
is
kind
of
a
situation
where
the
timing
got
a
little
bit
off
and
we
went
forth
with
the
assessment.
C
They
came
forth
now
with
a
plat
to
resub
divide
that
lot
and
they
can
tree
subdivide
that
a
lot
with
an
assessment
existing
on
it
state
law
allows
us
to
the
way
they
term
it
is
set
aside
an
assessment.
So
basically,
what
we're
doing
here
is
we're
setting
aside
the
assessment
for
a
lot
11
once
the
assessment
is
set
aside
for
a
lot.
E
C
J
J
C
So
what
will
happen
now
is
that
since
we
missed
the
basically
holding
back
the
assessment
from
that
lot,
it
won't
go
on
there.
2019
tax
roll
2020
well
they'll,
come
in
and
pay
the
first
payment
in
the
finance
office
in
2019
and
then
it'll
be
added
to
their
2020
tax
role
for
the
next
nine
years
following
man,
okay,
so
financially
we're
still.
J
J
A
Alright,
there's
any
action
there
is
there
any
old
business.
Is
there
any
new
business
and
you
need
to
go
into
executive
session
pursuant
to
STC
l1
25
2
C
naught
I,
look
for
a
motion
to
adjourn
so
moved
by
l'olam
ii
by
solemn,
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
signify
by
saying,
nay
motion
carries.
We
will
return
at
5:30.