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From YouTube: Board of Adjustment & Plan Commission Meeting 12 05 2019
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Board of Adjustment and Plan Commission meeting agenda for December 5, 2019
B
A
C
E
B
You
chairman
Dahle,
the
owner
applicant,
is
Dollar
General
retail
store
rupee
by
rupee
Helmer
group.
The
property
address
has
not
been
designated
yet,
but
the
tentative
address
will
be
either
on
tenth
Avenue
Northeast
or
highway
81,
which
is
also
4th
Street
northeast.
This
is
yet
to
be
planted
in
this
conditional
use
request.
The
applicant
seeks
conditional
use
approval
to
operate
a
neighborhood
retail
establishment
in
the
are
three
multi-family
residential
district
contingent
upon
compliance
with
section,
21,
Oh
OH
to
be
seven
A
through
H
and
all
other
ordinance
regulations.
B
Staff
finds
that
the
neighborhood
retail
establishment
is
listed.
Conditional
use
for
the
are
three
multi-family
residential
district
/
21
203
to
double
every
one
and
21
1603
for
the
definition
of
neighborhood
retail
establishment
is
generally
recognized.
Retail
business
which
supplies
commodities
on
the
premises
for
persons
residing
in
adjacent
residential
areas
such
as,
but
not
limited
to
groceries,
meats,
dairy
products
baked
or
other
foods,
drugs,
dry
goods,
clothing
and
notions
or
hardware,
as
opposed
to
just
a
general
retail
establishment,
which
is
defined
as
an
establishment
engaged
in
selling
products.
B
The
applicant
submitted
the
and
a
written
request
and
a
site
plan.
This
is
remember
a
conceptual
site
plan
is,
it
is
not
their
final
site
plan
which
reflects
compliance
or
non-compliance
with
the
following
terms
of
the
ordinance
I'm
gonna
change.
This
view
here
quickly
and
just
bring
up
their
conceptual
site
plan.
B
So
it
has
to
comply
with
2100
202
to
b7
A
through
H,
which
is
specific
rules
governing
individual
conditional
uses,
and
this
includes
ingress
and
egress
off
street
parking
and
loading
refuse
utilities,
service
areas,
screening
buffering
signage,
exterior
lighting
required
yards
and
open
space
and
general
compatibility
with
the
neighborhood
chapter,
21
63,
off-street
parking
and
loading
requirements
and
engine
engineering
design
standards.
The
submitted
conceptual
plan
shows
36
off
street
parking
spaces.
30
are
shown
as
improved
and
six
are
shown
as
unimproved
until
necessary,
but
there
is
space
for
the
required
amount
of
parking.
B
Now,
probably
more
than
36
are
going
to
be
required
by
ordinance,
but
we
won't
know
that
until
we
get
the
floor
plan
the
final
floor
plan
and
it
looks
as
if
they
have
the
area
and
their
intention
is
to
comply
with
ordinance.
If
they
do
not
comply
with
ordinance
at
time
of
building
permit
permitting,
then
they
would
have
to
come
back
with
an
application
for
a
variance
to
parking.
So
this
does
not
include
variance.
B
Again,
I
stated
that,
underneath
that
section,
chapter
21
65,
is
outside
storage
and
display
requirements
for
specific
uses.
The
submitted
Doc's
do
not
indicate
plans
for
outside
storage
or
displays,
and
just
for
your
information,
any
out
store
outside
storage.
All
stored
outside
storage
may
be
permitted
if
acceptable
screening
is
provided
and
approved
by
the
building.
Official
displays,
mark
merchandise,
which
is
offered
for
sale,
rental
or
lease
may
be
displayed
beyond
the
confines
of
a
building
chapter
21,
73
landscape
and
line
lighting
standards.
They
are
aware
of
and
will
meet
the
minimum
tree
requirement.
B
Nine
to
ten
are
required
on
this
corner
lot
and
perimeter
fence
and
dumpster
screening
are
detailed
on
the
conceptual
site
plan
sheet
number
one.
The
required
15
foot
of
grass
Boulevard
sidewalk
trail,
curb
and
gutter
are
not
shown
on
this
conceptual
plan
on
the
south
side
of
the
property,
but
note
again
that
the
applicant
is
not
asking
for
variances
at
this
time,
title
24,
subdivision
of
land.
The
parcel
is
yet
to
be
plaited.
B
E
My
name
is
Alan
vetch
and
I'm
with
AV
engineering,
and
we
are
the
engineers
for
the
project
and
we're
excited
about
this
site.
It's
a
place,
that's
located
on
a
main
thoroughfare
on
the
highway.
That's
really
what
we're
looking
for,
for
it.
We've
been
in
contact
with
staff
and
we
can
meet
all
the
requirements
as
far
as
parking
and
off
street
loading.
We're
not
asking
for
any
variances
we're
just
asking
for
the
conditional
use
and
I.
F
G
E
G
H
Thank
You
Commissioner
Keyes.
Actually
that
is
one
of
the
points
of
concern
that
we
would
want
to
address
in
the
commercial
site
plants,
the
middle,
where
we
have
a
common
engineering
standards,
some
common
accepted
standards,
whether
it
be
through
ash
to
or
the
other
design
standards
we've
been
referencing
that
would
have
an
adequate
offset
from
that
intersection.
I
can
say.
H
Generally
speaking
off
the
cuff,
you
would
see
an
additional
50
to
80
feet
there
to
allow
for
that
access
to
be
far
enough
east
that
intersection
to
avoid
any
conflicts
with
the
stacking
of
the
traffic
that
will
be
in
10th
Avenue.
That's,
which
is
an
obvious
concern
here
with
this
location,
as
shown
on
this
diagram,
their.
G
H
There
aren't
any
plans
and
the
works
that
I'm
aware
of
we
are
just
in
the
infancy
stages
of
a
new
transportation
master
plan,
whether
this
you'll
be
focused
on
or
provide
any
recommendations
of
that
nature
or
yet
to
be
seen.
But
yes,
short
answers,
no
there's
not
any
immediate
plans
or
near
future
plans
to
see
any
widening
there.
A
H
A
H
The
site
again
through
the
review
of
the
commercial
site
plan,
they
would
have
to
accommodate
any
regulations
for
water
quality
or
water
capture
volume
that
would
be
required
for
this
particular
drainage
basin.
At
the
time
of
that
plans,
middle
I
couldn't
tell
you
off
the
top
of
my
head.
There's
certain
areas
of
town
where
water
quality
excuse
me.
Water
quantity
isn't
a
concern
and
isn't
a
requirement,
but
water
quality
is,
and
there
are
other
areas
where
both
our
requirement
and
we
would.
H
And
you,
you
know,
you
are
correct,
I
think
what
you're
getting
at
is
this.
Does
the
site
indicate
any
room
for
that?
There's
not
identified,
and
maybe
the
engineer
could
speak
to
their
thoughts
on
that,
whether
they
anticipated,
including
any
potential
permanent
BMPs
for
their
sites.
As
far
as
a
runoff
is
concerned,.
E
Typically,
we
provide
if,
if
quantitative
or
requirements
are
applied,
then
we'll
we
can
typically
meet
those
in
parking
lot.
Detention,
so
actually
detaining
for
those
increase
in
runoff
some
parking
lot
and
that
specifically,
whenever
it
gets
into
water
quality
BMPs,
we
look
at
the
site
individually.
I
think
there's
room
on
the
property
to
meet
those
standards,
but
it
just
comes
down
to
you
going
through
the
details
of
that
and
getting
into
kind
of
the
nitty-gritty
of
the
design
and
we've.
E
A
I
G
D
To
be
clear,
then,
for
the
tentative
site
plan
you're
going
to
use
the
same
driveway
for
ingress
and
egress
under
the
property
and
no
intention
of
accessing
off
of
highway
81,
that's
correct.
It
does
seem
like
that
that
is
kind
of
close
to
the
intersection
with
you.
If
you
have
traffic
coming
in
and
out
with,
you
know
the
stoplights
there
and
that's
everything
but
I
kind
of
feel,
like
mr.
Van
Nuys
suggestions,
probably
we
would
be
a
little
more
adequate
than
and.
E
We
can
we
can
work
through
those
separation
requirements
and
as
as
I've
read
through
it,
I
don't
think,
there's
a
prescribed
number
from
from
a
specific
number
that
we
adhere
to
from
a
city
ordinance
application.
But
we
work
through
those
commonly
with
in
the
engineering
in
site
review
to
get
those
offsets
and
there
there
is
some
opportunity
to
have
I
think
we
can
make
that
fit
and
work
around
that.
One.
B
E
The
things
that
is
important
to
remember
about
this
particular
user
is
Dollar.
General
is
not
a
high
peak
volume
user
they're,
not
a
heavy
trip
generator,
and
what
we
found
over
the
years
is
that
they
actually
tend
to
skew
to
the
lower
end
of
the
actual
peak
trips
generated
in
that
p.m.
hour.
So
you're
not
seeing
a
high
turnover
in
a
lot
of
traffic
count
come
off
of
them.
You're
really
looking
at
a
somewhere
between
20
to
35,
36
peak-hour
vehicles
is
what
your
look
is
and
remember
that
that
generates
two
trips
for
every
vehicle.
E
E
It
is
really
what
it
comes
into
if
we
had
to
go
back
there,
there
is
it's
it's
worth
noting
and
as
we
went
33
foot
strip
that
just
hasn't
been
cleaned
up
and
we're
working
through
title
on
how
that
gets
cleaned
up
our
site
plan
does
not
reflect
that
additional
33
feet
to
the
east.
So
there
is
a
a
larger
piece
that
ultimately,
we
believe
will
that
the
title
resides
with
their
seller,
but
we
haven't
went
through
that.
E
So
we
don't
want
to
go
through
and
say:
hey
we
have
this
larger
tract
and
represent
something
that
we
don't
have
title
conforming
to
today.
Sure
so
it's
I.
What
I'm,
trying
to
say
is
I
think,
there's
33
more
feet
coming
either
way
to
the
east
and
which
is
why
I
have
far
less
concerns
about
some
of
the
water
quality
issues
and
that's
a
lot
of
room
on
the
back
side
of
the
building
to
do
a
BMP
and
if
it
was
necessary.
Your.
I
E
E
A
And
then
I
guess
just
to
reiterate
and
I
and
Jill
did
mention
it
a
number
of
times
here
that
you
know
we're
looking
at
a
concept
plan
only
and
that
the
requests
here
is
strictly
for
the
conditional
use.
Whether
or
not
this
this
conditional
use
is
relevant
to
the
property
and
that
any
any
deviation
from
required
standards
for
the
city
or
request
for
variance
would
have
to
come
back
before
this
board.
A
J
J
A
J
So
in
the
comment
was
made
about
making
an
entrance
into
that
he's
that
road
is
pretty
busy
along
there
and
so
he's
I
hate
to
say
this.
He
might
have
to
back
it
up
aways,
because
you
there's
a
lot
of
cars
and
stuff
that
are
along
there.
Waiting
for
that
traffic
light
to
switch
and
to
make
that
turn
it's
gonna
be
hard.
J
J
G
Will
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
conditional
use
subject
to
the
preliminary
plan,
with
the
caveat
that
I
would
like
to
make
sure
that
the
staff
work
with
the
developer
to
ensure
that
the
the
driveway
access
is
done
in
a
fashion
that's
going
to
provide
the
most
benefit
to
the
general
public
ie
pushing
it
back?
If
that's
what
it
needs.
K
B
Well,
in
this
case,
you
know
an
adjacent
landowner:
it's
anybody
who
touches
a
property
any
of
the
property
boundaries
taking
away
streets
and
alleys.
The
I
don't
believe
there
is
an
actual
definition
for
adjacent
residential
area,
but
my
belief
is
that
in
in
zoning,
it's
it's
your
it's
your
next-door
neighborhood
that
surrounds
it
by
maybe
a
block
or
two.
B
C
K
B
Think
I
would
add
to
that
within
walking
distance,
possibly
probably
not.
If
you
had
to
get
into
a
car
an
able-bodied
person
to
drive
there.
You
know,
maybe
it's
not
considered
here-
you're
adjacent
neighborhood,
a
retail
that
might
be
an
idea.
I,
don't
know
I'm
throwing
a
couple
of
things
out
there
and
it's.
A
A
valid
observation
you
know
in
in
principle
and
looking
at
other
areas
in
which
this
could
apply
to
the
community.
It's
typically,
you
know
a
smaller,
less
density
type,
retail
establishment.
That's
you
know
immediately
adjacent
to
a
group
of
residentially
zoned
properties.
That
is
typically,
you
know
better
served
in
that
environment.
G
Back
in
the
day,
and
that's
what
a
neighborhood
retail
neighborhood
commercial
would
be,
it's
a
place
where
you
went
and
got
your
eggs
in
your,
and
it
said
it's
just
more
something.
That's
a
little
bit
larger
this
neighborhood.
You
could
easily
make
the
argument
that
the
property
could
be
Zone,
C
3,
but
in
that
situation
the
C
3
zoning
would
bring
a
whole
list
of
other
uses
that
maybe
aren't
appropriate
at
that
location.
K
A
I
live
two
blocks
south
of
this
on
on
highway
81
or
in
a
mixed
mixed
neighborhood
of
retail
commercial
application
and
in
single-family
homes,
but
we're
right
on
a
major
highway
corridor,
and
we
expect,
over
the
long
term
that
this
is
going
to
continue
to
develop
more
commercial
I've
lived
in
my
house
for
for
over
a
decade,
but
I
know
that
over
time
you
know
it's
gonna,
get
more
commercial
in
this
area.
I.
G
B
A
B
A
A
B
A
B
L
F
F
L
F
C
L
A
So
item
five
I
will
be
recusing
myself.
I'll
turn
the
meeting
over
to
initiate
the
action
on
item
five
voice.
German,
Stein
and
Jeff
can
and
feel
free
to
vote
on
that
action
item.
One
on
the
agenda,
then,
is
the
invitation
for
public
comment
participants.
Metals.
So,
if
you'd
like
to
speak
in
the
public
on
something,
that's
not
on
the
agenda
that
doesn't
have
a
public
hearing,
we
can
come
up
and
sign
up
here
at
the
podium
for
a
slot
later
that'll
be
one
of
the
last
items
on
the
agenda
today.
A
A
L
C
A
L
Thank
you
Blake
and
then
also
as
we'll
also
take
action
on
resolution
number,
twenty,
nineteen,
thirty
nine,
which
is
just
the
adoption
of
the
lake
and
pesky
master
plan
as
long
as
you're
all
good
with
the
presentation.
So
at
this
point,
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Vanessa
Victor
and
Christopher
shires
they're.
The
consultants
for
that
was
published.
M
All
right
now
we're
ready.
Thank
you
for
that
again,
Commission
chair.
Thank
you
for
your
time
tonight
again,
Chris
shires,
with
confluence
Vanessa
Victor
with
infrastructure,
design,
group
I,
believe
you
know
her
well.
Some
of
you
have
seen
me
around
before,
and
so
we
were
the
consultant
team
hired
to
create
a
master
plan
for
Lake,
Camp,
Eska
and
so
we're.
We
have
that
draft
in
front
of
you
tonight.
We
do
have
a
presentation.
M
This
is
an
important
plan,
there's
a
lot
of
information
and
detail
on
it,
but
we
know
you
have
other
things
on
the
agenda,
so
we're
gonna
try
to
go
through
quickly,
but
please
do
stop
us
with
your
questions.
If
we
go
through
quickly
too
quickly
through
a
specific
detail
or
something
important
that
you
want
us
to
go
into
so
for
our
presentation,
we're
going
to
talk
just
a
little
bit
about
the
the
project
overview.
M
Its
purpose
touch
briefly
on
the
public
input
results
walk
through
the
our
lake
analysis,
as
well
as
some
of
our
recommendations
that
land
use
analysis
and
those
zoning
recommendations
with
that,
and
then
briefly,
on
the
draft
implementation
plan
contained
within
the
document.
So,
first
off,
why
are
we
doing
this
project?
What
was
the
intent?
M
So
the
study
area
was
a
lake
itself
and
that
surrounding
properties-
and
we
did
take
a
pretty
broad
look
at
the
area,
especially
when
it
came
to
some
future
land
use
analysis
and
planning
that
we
prepared
as
part
of
this
so
from
the
highway
north
all
the
way
to
basically
what
is
your
current
future
land
use,
planning
boundary,
and
so
just
a
little
bit
on
the
public
input.
We
did
have
two
public
input
meetings.
M
M
You
see
kind
of
a
marina
concept,
trails,
public
gathering
spaces
and,
of
course,
restaurants,
restaurants,
being
a
running
theme,
then
on
the
least
preferred
images,
images
that
are
a
little
more
intense,
a
little
more
intense
retail,
intense
use
of
the
lake
camping
things
like
that,
and
so
in
asking
questions.
What
what
do
you
want
to
see
some
of
the
top
things
that
came
out
clean
water
restaurants
completed
trail
system?
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
that,
of
course,
and
what
do
we
not
want
to
see
too
much?
M
M
We
had
a
lot
of
discussion
about
dredging
and,
as
we
get
farther
in
this
presentation,
vanessa
is
going
to
talk
about
that
dredging
sounds
great,
but
there's
an
incredibly
high
financial
cost
to
dredging
and
it's
not
a
perfect
solution.
So
the
folks
in
attendance
definitely
understood
that
whatever
we
do
has
to
be
a
long-range
and
affordable
long-range
in
thinking
and
affordable.
Long
term
need
to
continue
to
push
through
this
process
to
make
some
things
happen
and
look
for
some
quick
wins.
N
N
The
awesome
precipice
of
all
of
that
was
that
they
kind
of
can
all
work
hand
in
hand.
So
a
lot
of
our
proposed
improvements
will
not
only
just
help
water
quality,
but
it
will
also
help
fisheries.
If
you
improve
the
water,
the
fish
will
survive.
If
you
stock
the
water,
it
will
help
with
some
of
the
nitrogen
levels
that
you
are
having
and
then
creating
amenities
that
also
help
improve
the
water
quality.
As
we
go
forward.
N
The
biggest
water
quality
issues
that
the
the
lake
sees
is
actually
from
the
Big
Sioux
River,
feeding
into
it,
and
then
the
current
amount
of
phosphorous
that
is
just
in
the
lake
itself.
So
it's
twofold
on
the
treatment.
We
got
a
look,
what
is
already
in
the
lake
and
what
is
rapidly
entering
the
life
today
and
how
do
we
proceed
forward?
N
So
there
was
a
lot
of
focus
on
on
dredging.
We
did
evaluate
dredging,
it
was
not
cost-effective
for
the
city
of
Watertown,
in
our
opinion,
album
treatment,
which
is
a
treatment
that
will
take
care
of
the
in
lake
loading
as
well.
This
the
phosphorus
has
built
up
on
the
bottom
layer
of
the
lake,
so
it
will
bind
with
that
nitrogen
to
produce
better
water
quality.
N
Additionally,
rut
your
foot
and
it
should
be
mentioned
actually
that
Roger
has
done
an
amazing
job
of
already
preventative
efforts
at
the
lake.
If
we
didn't
have
the
Upper
Big
Sea
watershed
project,
doing
measures
today,
we'd
be
in
a
whole
different
can
of
worms
are
like
today
is
already
hyper
eutrophic
because
of
its
high
phosphorus
levels.
But
if,
without
his
forward-thinking
approaches,
we'd
be
in
much
worse
state
and
we
might
be
beyond
repair,
we
can
still
make
the
water
quality
of
the
lake
better,
but
it's
gonna
be
costly.
N
So
all
the
things
that
I
shouldn't
mention
that
I'm,
not
the
water
quality
expert
when
it
comes
to
this,
it
was
run
by
a
to
a
II
to
us,
but
they
are.
They
have
a
sister
firm
within
their
company
that
they
actually
do
dredging.
So
we're
very
confident
in
our
dredging
costs
that
were
presented.
It
is
just
an
expensive
maneuver.
N
We
also
looked
at
just
dredging
select
spots
and
trying
to
make
some
deeper
parts
of
Lake
comp,
Eska
and
maybe
building
an
island
on
spot
it'd
be
a
very
tiny
island
and
even
just
for
what
is
shown
art
there.
We
dredge
and
the
amoeba
looking
area
and
then
create
that
small
island
on
the
northern
side.
Thank
you
Chris
and
right.
There
we're
looking
at
twenty
five
million
dollars
so.
J
N
So
when
we
got
into
the
actual
people's
comments,
they
want
increased
access
to
the
lake
and
they
want
better
fishing.
So
how
do
we
increase
that
and
have
better
fishing
and
then,
at
the
same
time,
still
help
our
water
quality?
So
basically
came
up
with
the
idea
of
our
fisheries
expert
was
dr.
Brian
grave,
with
SDSU
and
basically
sculpting
areas
within
the
lake
with
select
dredging
just
in
that
little
area
to
create
little
fish
habitats,
and
then
he
did
a
nice
little
spin
on
it.
That
basically
makes
it
into
an
18-hole
golf
course.
N
Along
with
that,
integrating
some
fishing
piers
into
existing
city
land
or
on
the
lake
there's
a
lot
of
confusion.
There
is
a
lot
of
city-owned
land
around
the
lake,
but
it's
not
very
well
marked
for
the
public
and
if
it
doesn't
have
a
dock,
there's
no
way
for
the
public
to
you,
utilize
that
land
and
our
boat
ramps
are
actually
supposed
to
be
just
boat
ramps,
but
there's
a
lot
of
fishing
that
happens
there,
because
there's
no
place
for
the
average
person
to
come
out
and
do
short
fishing.
N
On
top
of
that,
without
having
a
a
pinpoint
location
to
build
a
marina,
we
did
come
up
with
a
concept
of
what
that
marina
could
look
like
and
how
it
would
benefit
both
water
quality
and
just
an
arrangement
that
would
work
out
nicely
for
the
city.
So
you
have
some
sort
of
design
standard
going
forward
on.
If
you
you
have
a
proposal
that
goes
that
comes
in
front
of
you.
N
Basically,
when
I
was
talking
about
these
little
fish
habitats,
the
top
left
is
what
we
have
today:
fish
like
like
nooks
and
crannies.
They
like
spots
to
hang
in,
we
have
kind
of
a
fish
desert
in
the
top
left
to
increase
that
some
of
those
fish
habitats
will
have
basically,
these
artificial,
almost
Christmas
tree,
looking
apparatuses,
that
they
attract
fish,
they're
great
spawning
ground,
and
that
is
actually
you
know
five
to
six
foot
depth
range.
N
On
top
of
that,
we
also
looked
at.
We
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
residents
that
are
out
at
the
lake
that
have
a
huge
drive
to
what
can
I
do?
What
can
I
do
to
make
my
my
front
yard
better
so
on
a
simplistic
scale
at
the
end
of
your
dock?
If
you
wanted
to
put
in
some
of
these
fish
habitats,
that
would
help
so
adopting
some
sort
of
program
where
you
can
order
those
and
install
them
every
year
when
you're
putting
out
your
dock,
it
would
always
benefit
the
lake
in
general.
N
They're
amazing
for
their
water
quality
aspects,
they
filter
out
water
and
impurities.
Better
than
most
of
our
mechanical
processes
can
in
just
a
natural
way
surrounding
the
lake.
We
have
a
lot
of
existing
wetlands
that
have
been
disconnected
or
silted
in
over
time.
So
as
part
of
our
proposition,
we
had
analyzed
those
existing
wetlands
and
tried
to
come
up
with
ways
of
reconnecting
them
to
the
lake
by
reconnecting
them.
We're
also
allowing
some
kayak
and
fish
passages
and
some
more
spots
for
recreation
for
people
and
creating
more
access.
M
A
You
have
a
question
on
the
phosphorous
in
the
lake
you'd
mention
the
the
major
source
of
that
being
the
watershed
in
the
river.
How
about
residential
land
use
of
fertilizers
and
runoff
associated
to
that
with
the
high
amount
of
residential
we
have
around
the
lake?
Is
that
a
concern
that
that
other
lakes
face
or.
N
It
is
a
concern
that
most
lakes
do
face
the
amount
of
phosphorous,
so
that
is
coming
from
like
peoples,
chemicals
that
they
might
be
using
at
their
lake
or
on
their
yards,
which
I'd
have
to
say.
Actually
the
public
awareness
on
that
is
pretty
amazing.
If
you
go
out
with
any
sort
of
canned
I
know,
my
neighbors
will
come
over
and
they'll
want
to
read
the
label
to
make
sure
that
it's
environmentally
friendly,
but
it
is
a
growing
concern
from
our
standpoint.
The
big
sue.
N
Anything
that
area
residents
could
do
at
the
lake
is
nothing
compared
to
what
the
Big
C
will
unload
and
then
it's
a
it's
a
touchy.
If
we,
if
we
treat
the
leg
trick,
the
late
treat
the
lake
and
we
get
our
water
quality
down
to
a
certain
amount
and
everything's
clear.
We
have
great
water
quality.
All
it
takes
is
a
flooding
event
and
then
your
your
restarting
the
cycle.
N
A
M
Let
me
jump
forward
here
to
some
of
the
land-use
analysis
and
those
zoning
recommendations
that
came
along
with
it.
So
as
we
went
through
and
did
our
analysis
as
well
as
analyze
and
look
at
what
we
heard
from
the
stakeholders
and
the
public,
we
came
to
seven
main
goals
related
to
that
so
managed
growth
and
infrastructure,
of
course,
lessen
traffic
congestion,
buffer
and
separate
those
incompatible
land
uses
preserve
the
neighborhood
character
and
quality
of
life.
That
was
very
important.
M
It
recommend
adding
future
land
uses
south
towards
highway
212,
because
you
do
have
the
capacity
for
it
create
a
new
lake
residential
land
use
category
that
could
then
turn
into
a
new
lake
sensitive
residential
zoning
district,
because
how
you
would
build
a
single-family
house
on
lake
frontage
is
different
than
say
elsewhere
in
the
community
identify
some
areas
for
limited
retail
development.
Rezone
undeveloped,
redevelop,
abilities
consistent
with
your
goals
in
a
future
land-use
map,
so
you're
setting
the
expectation
of
how
you
see
that
property
should
be
used
and
so
from
that
under
zoning.
M
Then
hey,
why
not
create
a
new
lake
residential
zoning
district
and
create
a
new
lakeside
commercial
district
which
I
think
you're?
Actually
in
the
process
of
working
on
now
and
then
under
the
development
review
category?
That
should
say,
update,
site
plan
application
requirements
and
detailed
spec
building
inspection
review
process
to
be
sensitive
to
those
special
needs
of
the
lake,
even
getting
back
to
certain
things
we
can
do
and
design
through
for
water
quality
management
that
might
be
enhanced
because
of
the
lakeside
frontage
or
being
in
the
lake
immediate
drainage
basin.
M
So
even
that
development
review
for
all
those
lake
impact
projects
should
be
special
and
then
consider
adopting.
This
is
from
the
public
considering
adopting
some
type
of
certificate
of
occupancy
program
for
new
construction.
So
you
know
better
on
what
types
of
uses
are
going.
We
heard
a
lot
of
concerning
with
short-term
rentals
party
houses,
things
like
that,
changing
the
quality
and
character
of
the
lake,
and
so
with
that
we
did
color
up
a
new
future
land
use
map,
identifying
areas
for
new
commercial
growth.
M
Saying
your
lake
campus
collage
continuation
of
I,
don't
know
it
lunker's
new
name,
but
the
the
lunker's
restaurant
site.
New
areas
were
on
stony
point,
of
course,
and
then
you
can
see
along
highway
212
all
in
red
there,
some
new
potential
retail
areas,
knowing
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
can
long-term
make
that
those
new
retail
areas
survive
the
winter
season,
where
they're
not
getting
Lake
user
traffic
and
same
thing,
I'm
looking
for
different
opportunities
for
new
housing,
but
still
trying
to
preserve
the
bulk
or
the
majority
of
the
single-family
residential
areas.
M
Okay,
then,
the
implementation
plan
is
broken
out
into
three
phases
and
as
the
consultant
team,
this
is
our
recommendation,
but
it
all
comes
with
a
high
price
tag.
Dredging
is
expensive.
Those
alum
treatments
are
expensive.
Nothing,
unfortunately,
is
is
necessarily
cheap
and
easy.
There
are
certain
things
that
are
cheaper,
that
are
kind
of
those
immediate
wins.
You
can
start
doing
some
of
those
fish
habitat
improvements,
but
we
wanted
to
be
realistic
with
on
giving
you
a
plan
over
three
phases,
and
so
it's
all
about
reducing
sediment
and
pollution
from
the
big
Sioux
River.
M
So
raising
that
we're,
where
the
big
Sioux
flows
into
the
lake
would
be
one
of
those
big
first
steps.
We
can't
completely
disconnect
the
river
from
the
lake
like
it
was
originally
that's
just
not
practical
anymore,
but
maybe
we
can
limit
that.
It's
only
the
really
big
flooding
events
that
are
then
flooding
the
river
water
into
the
lake
and,
frankly
undoing
all
the
improvements.
M
You've
done
that
that's
just
no
real
fix
to
that
update
land
uses
and
zoning
around
the
lake
to
meet
the
desired
outcome,
enhance
and
increase
the
shoreline
by
reconnecting
our
wetlands
using
those
as
both
amenities
and
water
treatment
sources
start
with
those
album
treatments
and
even
some
tactical
dredging
to
increase
the
usability
quality
of
the
lake,
it's
fishing
potential
and
then
finally,
fishing
everything
related
to
fishing.
There
are
certain
things
we
talked
about.
Improving
the
shoreline
on
at
least,
say
20%
would
make
a
big
impact
on
improving
fishing
fish.
M
M
Sometimes
even
our
wetland
areas
or
our
marina
areas
can
serve
as
that
and
then
improve,
like
Vanessa,
showed
different
options
for
getting
fishing
piers.
Other
fishing
access
points
along
the
lake
and
then
continue
the
education
program
for
those
best
management
practices
which,
just
like
you
brought
up
before,
may
be
either
an
educational
or
a
requirement.
Don't
use
phosphorus
or
you
know
a
prohibition
on
using
phosphorus
based
fertilizers
within
a
certain
distance
or
within
the
certain
area.
The
lake
drainage
basin.
M
The
other
thing
we
know
is
important
is:
is
some
type
of
a
wayfinding
signage
system
directing
people
to
different
lake
amenities,
different
lake
areas,
access
points,
especially
as
we
would
be
able
to
increase
more
retail
in
and
around
the
lake
area,
directing
that
out-of-town
off-site
traffic
to
those
areas,
and
so
they
even
a
handout
map
or
a
public
use
map
would
be
important.
So
I'll
I
won't
read
all
through
this,
but
we
did
identify
specifically
projects
over
three
phases
in
a
basically
five
year.
N
Want
to
capitalize,
we
did
try
to
capitalize
on
other
improvements
that
you're
already
planning
on,
and
your
CIP
at
the
lake.
So
you
know
some
of
the
culprit
extensions.
Those
are
culverts
that
already
need
to
be
replaced
at
the
lake
anyway.
So
while
we're
replacing
it
anyway,
let's,
let's
do
it
right
to
benefit
the
lake,
so
there
is
some
overlap
and
in
project
costs
and
I
also
want
to
highlight
the
fact
that
the
alum
treatments
was
repeated.
M
D
N
Would
modify
the
existing
where
system
right
now
next
to
the
gate?
The
way
it
is
set
up
is
actually
pretty
simple
for
a
modification
and
just
making
it
a
little
bit
higher.
The
original
Weir
was
designed
for
a
ten
year
event
and
then
last
minute
it
got
switched
so
it
was
such
for
a
five
year
event,
so
anything
with
the
weir
modification
would
actually
still
have
to
have
an
engineering
study.
We
got
to
map
everything,
make
sure
that
we're
not
doing
downstream
effects
somewhere
way,
far
away
in
the
watershed
by
raising
that
that
we're
elevation.
D
Many
times
and
it
seemingly
fairly
well
known
that
the
main
pollutants
from
the
to
the
lake
or
from
the
Big
Sioux
River,
but
you
also
mentioned
that
there's
really
no
way
to
get
the
weir
or,
if
I
use
the
word.
You
know
a
dam
of
some
type,
so
you're
saying
that
that's
not
at
any
cost
you're
saying
that's
not
well,
not
at
any
cost,
but
in
a
practical
cost
you're
saying
that
it's
not
practical
to
try
to
control
that
inflow,
any
any.
More
than
modifying
that
we're
to
the
the
excited
you
are
you
referencing
there.
N
I'm
not
saying
it's
not
a
possibility.
I'm,
we
wanted
to
go
into
it
eyes
wide
open
and
give
you
possible
solutions
that
you
can
act
on,
damming
damming
up,
highway
20
would
be
awesome,
and
then
the
lake
wouldn't
have
that
inflow.
But
it's
not
a
practical
solution
that
you
will
ever
get
permanent,
necessarily
so
a
feasibility
wise.
Even
though
there
is
an
engineering
study
that
you
have
to
analyze
the
the
weir
height
and
that
inundation
area,
it
is
obtainable.
So
it
is
part
of
our
recommendation.
N
M
You're
not
to
put
words
your
mouth,
so
the
Ness
I
mean
to
be
fair
to
say
we
analyzed
it
just
as
those
let's
not
leave
anything
untested.
You
know
full
disconnection
of
the
river
to
the
lake,
but
that
is
used
to
manage
and
serve
to
help
protect
other
areas
of
the
community
from
flooding
and
so
you'd
have
to
analyze.
What
is
that
new
impact?
What
new
properties
are,
what
new
areas
would
flood
or
flood
at
a
lower
potential
it'd
be
massive.
A
H
Mr.
chairman,
yes,
if
I
may
pull
as
a
question
to
either
Chris
or
Vanessa
one
of
the
key
components
as
far
as
the
zoning
aspect
and
the
development
around
the
lake
that
I
wanted
to
touch
on
briefly,
just
because
I
know
we
have
a
pending
study
for
I
believe
in
the
limitation
of
development
on
the
north
and
west
side
of
the
lake
that
is
indicated
on
here.
If
I
recall,
right,
you
indicated
that's
primarily
driven
by
the
access
to
utility
services.
Is
that
an.
H
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
known
for
the
record
that
that
is
a
pending
study
that
we
will
be
carrying
out
through
2020
and
have
some
findings
as
far
as
what
what
existing
capacity
does
remain
around
the
lake
and
then
what
potential
phasing
and
of
improvements
might
be
necessary.
If
we
would
like
to
see
additional
capacities
added
for
future
development,
I
can't
speak
on
behalf
of
the
water
utility
and
their
capacities,
but
as
far
as
wastewater
is
concerned,
that's
where
that
rests.
At
this
point.
My.
G
Recollection
from
all
my
years
around
here
is
that
the
primary,
in
addition
to
the
forest
main
issues
that
the
city
had
was
the
water
towers
and
the
pressure
distribution
and
and
having
to
re
basically
reg
and
retool
a
lot
of
the
water
distribution,
and
that
was
I.
Think
when
we
looked
at
the
land
use
plan
back
in
the
mid
90s
and
early
2000s
I
was
still
kind
of
a
an
issue
regarding
that
statement
and
I
agree
with
your
your
your
statement
as
well
in
the
plan.
C
G
A
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
presentation.
It
was
very
enlightening
for
myself
and
for
the
other
members
of
the
board,
it's
great
to
see
so
many
advocates
in
the
community
that
have
been
involved
in
this
process.
So
it
really
has
been
a
community
effort
to
get
to
this
point
and,
as
mr.
kay
said,
it's
it's
exciting
to
incorporate
this
into
our
future
planning.
A
L
A
L
A
L
This
is
Tareq's
property
that
now
as
they're
working
through,
if,
if
they're
going
to
convey
it
or
sell
it
whatnot.
This
issue
came
up
here
of
this
dedicated
right-of-way
splitting
the
parcel
that's
owned
both
by
Tareq's.
So
there
are
no
utilities
within
there.
There's
not
it's
not
improved
as
a
street
or
alley
of
any
sort.
So
that's
why
they're
proposing
to
vacate
it
and
then
so?
It'll
split
off
half
and
half
and
go
to
go
back
to
the
parent
parcels.
L
D
A
D
Point
and
would
be
fair
to
say,
the
understanding
of
why
they
want
to
take
care
of
this
now
is,
as
they
divest
themselves
of
property
in
the
city
of
buildings
that
they
may
not
and
property.
They
may
be
using
their
their
new
facility
that
it
would
be
more
appealing
to
potentially
somebody
to
purchase
this
piece
of
property
with
that
vacated,
even
though
it
is
two
separate
parcels
that
presumably
might
be
sold
as
as
one
one
unit
right.
L
Yeah
and
it
could
be,
it
could
be
one
or
they
could
subdivide
it
into
different
different
properties
as
well
or
different,
Lots.
It's
and
that's
just
all
in
the
future,
for
how
they
plan
on
subdividing
it,
but
yeah
I
think
that's
just
why
I
came
to
light
now
before
I
didn't
really
matter,
because
they
they
own
both
properties
and
we're
able
to
use
it
as
one.
But
it's
a
that.
They
say
that
they
had
two
different
buyers
and
then
they
could
split
it.
Okay,.
L
G
You
see
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
that
if
we
allow
the
vacation
on
this,
we
have
two
separate
parcels.
Now
they
have
two
separate
and
potentially
two
separate
owners
down
the
road
and
the
same
situation
comes
in.
It
just
happens
to
be
to
the
east
and
they
want
to
vacate
that.
Would
we
consider
not
vacating
that
or
we
would
just
say
yeah,
we
did
it
before.
So
why?
Wouldn't
we
do
it
now?
Well,.
L
G
G
Saying
we're
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
blaming
I'm,
just
saying
that
it
seems
like
we're,
saying
it's:
okay
for
the
goose,
but
not
for
the
gander
in
this
situation.
Moving
forward-
and
you
know
prospectively-
and
so
the
question
is
maybe
we
should
take
a
look
at
vacating,
the
entire
stretch,
if
we're
thinking
about
vacating,
just
a
portion
of
it.
L
But
the
difference,
though,
is
that
how
they
exist
today,
they're
these
have
frontage
and
proof
frontage.
This.
The
frontage
ends
here
before
this
alley,
this
30-foot
of
right
away.
So
if
this
was
extending
and
they
were
able
to
get
adequate
frontage,
then
yes,
then
it
would
be
the
same
situation,
but
it
doesn't
so
right
now.
This
is
providing
frontage
to
this
parcel.
H
Mr.
chairman,
in
regards
to
another
point
of
consideration
along
the
lines
of
Commissioner
Kay's
point
would
be
you
know
we
do
have
an
abnormally
narrow
right
away
here
that
were
dealing
with
and
which
could
cause
an
increased
nature
of
a
future
likelihood
of
vacating.
The
one
to
the
east.
You
know,
30
feet
wide
is
not
doesn't
meet
the
standards
of
any
way,
we're
right
of
way
right
of
way
widths
that
we
would
require
for
new
development,
but
it
does
pose
a
unique
question
for
the
property
of
the
east.
It
is
under
currently
under
one
ownership.
H
H
D
D
L
L
L
I
wouldn't
speculate
that
it
was
from
the
railroad
and
if
that
was
a
access
road
of
some
sort
of,
and
then
it's
just
a
remnant
at
this
point,
because
then
you
can
see
there's
this.
This
is
the
old
railroad
right-of-way,
and
so
that's
where
these
properties
came
into
play
where
now
they're
owned
by
the
same
people
but
they're
they're,
just
split
by
this
dedicated
right-of-way,
which,
like
I
said
I,
would
imagine,
was
used
for
access
for
the
railroad.
I
I
L
I
H
H
L
But
see
the
the
issue
with
this,
this
right-of-way
portion
is
that
this
is
and
you'll
see
here
it's
plotted
as
lot
five,
so
that
one
already
has
a
buildable
right.
But
what
would
happen
in
the
future?
Is
that
say
that
the
owner
sold
off
portions
of
this
property
and
then
this
and
say
this
property
way
back
here?
This
is
the
only
access
it
has
per
a
public
right-of-way
which
to
plat
it
and
have
a
buildable
right.
It
has
to
have
sufficient
frontage.
L
L
L
I
Don't
have
any
questions,
but
I
guess
I'll,
just
throw
this
out
there
for
comment
so
since
that
owner
to
the
east
owns
both
Lots
we're
only
trying
to
save.
Maybe
him
some
grief
should
he
want
to
subdivide
his
property,
but
at
that
point
couldn't
he
move
that
road
up
to
give
the
other
lot
access
yeah.
L
So
at
that
point-
and
here
you'll
see
this
is
the
platted.
So
this
is
the
right-of-way
that
we're
looking
at
30
feet
and
then
it
extends
to
the
south.
But
you
can
see
here
that
that
dedicated
roadway
ends
where
that
extension
comes
in
and
then
this
is
only
lot
five
so
that
other
portions
of
the
south
is
a
remnant
and
but
so
when
he
comes
in,
if
he
would
want
to
subdivide
that
in
the
future
he
could
take
a
petition
to
vacate
it
or
he
could.
He
could
relocate
it.
L
He
could
dedicate
more
right-of-way,
but
most
likely
he
would
vacate
it,
and
then
you
know
subdivide
it
down
the
middle,
something
or
in
thirds
whatever,
but
as
long
as
they
each
had
sufficient
frontage
on
the
right-of-way.
But
at
this
point
it's
just
you
don't
want
to
vacate
that
right-of-way
that
could
land
Locke
a
parcel
at
this
point,
because
it's
not
subdivided
yet.
It's
not
plaited.
I
L
I
I
think
that's
where,
where
Todd's
concern
is
coming
from,
is
the
the
adjacent
landowner
that
we're
leaving
him
kind
of
out
there
hung
I
guess
if
I
were
owning
that
property?
If
I
were
going
to
split
it,
I
would
probably
make
that
access
road.
You
know
probably
run
straight
to
the
world.
You
know,
I'd
come
off
straight,
I
mean
that's
just
my
opinion.
I
think
that's
I
would
platted
is
a
nice
square
chunk
of
land,
as
opposed
to
you,
know,
PI,
shaping
them,
but
and.
L
C
G
G
G
L
N
D
J
A
O
G
A
Then
specific
to
the
investments
as
well,
just
accepting
the
suggestions
of
the
investments
within
the
master
plan
doesn't
necessarily
commit
us
to
doing
all
those
things.
There
will
be
much
more
discussion
and
public
action
that
needs
to
take
place
on
those
before
anything
would
officially
move
forward.
O
G
On
the
land
use
planning
portion,
we
are
required
statutorily
to
publish
notices
in
the
newspaper
when
the
land
use
plan
is
going
to
be
before
the
Planning
Commission,
and
also
a
subsequent
public
hearing
by
the
City
Council
there'll
be
two
public
hearings
on
the
development
of
the
land-use
plan.
I,
don't
know
about
the
CIP
process.
What
you
guys
do.
H
We
have
our
annual
CIP
that
we
submit
a
year
for
the
next
fiscal
year
that
the
council
approves,
and
so
those
budgetary
earrings,
of
course
are
open
to
public
and
are
held
at
the
at
the
council
level.
Subsequent
to
that,
we
do
a
long-range
capital
improvement
plan
which
some
of
these
improvements
couldn't
be
incorporated
into
as
well.
H
So
if
it's
anywhere
from
two
to
five
years
out-
and
we
wanted
the
program
money
for
these
improvements,
they
would
land
on
that
long-range
capital,
improvement
plan,
mm-hmm
and
so
there's
those
two
mechanisms
that
are
used
for
capital
programming
and
that's
all
done
through
the
budgetary
process
at
the
council
level.
As
far
as
the
capital
improvements
are
concerned,
as.
A
F
F
A
plug
for
the
going
onto
the
website
and
you
can
sign
up
for
notifications
for
a
multitude
of
the
meetings
that
the
city
hosts
you
can
check
for
this
particular
purpose.
These
meetings,
as
well
as
the
City,
Council
or
gonna,
be
one
of
those.
Two
things
are,
or
these
things
are
gonna
be
discussed,
but
you
can
sign
up
to
receive
notifications
for
every
single
board
and
Commission
of
the
city.
The
city
has,
if
you
like
so,
and.
F
O
You,
after
not
understanding
how
that
worked
and
needing
to
know
I,
have
done
that
I
guess
what
that
means
is
that
for
people
who
are
not
closely
connected,
they
have
to
be
looking
in
specific
locations
unless
we
have
someone
from
the
radio
or
someone
from
the
press
who
is
covering
that
item
and
bringing
that
forward
and
who
would
be
people
who
would
initially
initiate
that
for
broader
public
information.
So
when,
for
instance,
when
I
was
talking
to
other
Lake
residents
about
this
happening,
because
I
read
it
on
the
on
the
agenda,
they
were
like.
O
Oh
my
gosh,
no
I
didn't
know
anything
about
that
because
of
course
it
wasn't
in
the
paper
and
I
was
getting
the
agenda,
and
so
there
are
a
lot
of
people
are
interested,
but
may
not
be
first
of
all,
getting
the
paper
or
being
online
or
doing
those
things
and
I
think
this
is
truly
an
important
part
of
moving
forward.
So
how
do
we
get
that
out?
More
prominently
to
the
public
I'm
hearing
that
you
don't
have
responsibility
to
do
that
in
your
plans
of
what
is
fair
and
open
information
to
the
public?
O
H
H
But
once
it
gets
to
the
board
levels,
it
will
simply
be
an
adoption
of
that
plan
through
a
resolution.
And
so
that's
why
it's
important
for
these
types
of
plans
to
go
through
that
upfront,
vetting
process
and,
of
course,
at
the
board
level
to
where
the
agenda
notifications
come
into
play.
The
difference
between
those
two
examples
and
the
formal,
comprehensive
land
use
plan,
as
commissioner
Kay's
pointed
out,
is
that
comprehensive
land
use
plan.
H
A
O
G
But
back
here,
I
think
the
middle
initial
scope
with
a
question
is:
what
can
we
do
to
engage
the
public
and
have
them
make
know?
What's
going
on
it's
the
vigilance
of
the
public
I
mean
the
public
has
to
be
engaged.
They
have
to
find
things
that
they're
interested
in
and
they
have
to
take
action
from
their
own
actions
and
and
be
watchful.
G
You
know,
there's
so
many
things
that
this
has
to
do
statutorily.
Wise,
I
think
you
know
we
are
doing
things
much
better
today
than
we
were
10
years
ago,
just
through
the
advent
of
technology
cable
on
the
cable
news
that
we
have
the
City,
Channel
and
I.
Think
if
you
know,
if
anybody
wants
know
what's
going
on,
all
they
have
to
do
is
call
City
Hall
and
say:
is
there
anything
going
on
with
the
lake
this
month
and
brandy
will
say,
yeah
we've
got
an
agenda
item
coming
up,
I
mean
so
again.
O
I
called
my
councilman
about
earlier
the
last
Planning
Commission
meeting.
He
was
absolutely
unaware
of
what
was
going
on,
so
it
was
like.
Oh
that's,
very
interesting
to
me
so
I
take
it
that
we,
the
public,
have
a
responsibility
and
since
I'm
here
I
have
a
responsibility,
and
what
I'm
hearing
is
that
in
January
there
are
going
to
be
hearings
about
the
kinds
of
things
that
you're
putting
together.
That
will
be
specific
to
the
plan
and
that
I
need
to
go
to
the
website.
I
need
to
see
the
and
it's
wonderful.
G
Statutorily
you're,
correct,
I'm
gonna,
guess
that
the
rolling
out
of
this
comprehensive
land-use
plan
that's
been
several
years
in
the
making
and
final
adoption
is
going
to
be
a
little
bit
more
than
that.
I
think
I'm
gonna!
Guess
that
we're
going
to
try
to
get
PSAs
out
to
make
sure
that
the
public
is
going
to
be
involved.
There
have
been
countless
of
opportunities
over
the
last
three
and
a
half
years
for
public
participation
and
again
the
public
has
you
know.
G
A
More
engagement
that
you
have
in
the
community
the
the
better
the
participation,
so
if
you're,
if
you're,
engaged
in
something
in
an
advocate
for
it,
naturally,
you
know
spreads
the
interest
of
that,
and
that's
that's
why
some
of
those
previous
events
that
we
saw
related
to
this
master
plan
had
such
high
levels
of
engagement,
because
it
it
is
something
that's
important
to
the
community
and-
and
it
was
good
to
you-
know,
to
see
how
many
active
residents
did
participate
in
that
original
drafting
of
the
of
the
master
plan.
Thank
you
he's.
L
K
O
C
O
L
So
talking
about
the
lake,
we
have
a
and
so
I
passed
out
the
lake
commercial
draft
ordinance.
So
what
we're
proposing
there?
And
since
we've
been
talking,
we
were
talking
about
getting
a
lake
commercial
district
in
place,
burb
ever
since
I've
been
here
and
then
now,
and
we
always
wanted
to
wait
until
we
had
the
lake
competitive
master
plan
adopted
just
so
and
then
also
just
in
discussions
that
we've
been
having
as
the
Planning
Commission
and
staff
and
everything.
L
This
is
a
draft,
and
so
the
purpose
and
the
reason
why
we've
been
wanting
this
is
to
establish
appropriate
locations
adjacent
to
Lake,
Camp,
Asaka
and
Lake
Pelican
that
are
conducive
to
Lake
commercial
activity
and
then
to
permit
development
of
service
and
retail
centers
complementary
to
Lake,
Recreation
and
living
at
J
sake.
We
all
know
that
it's
and
they
put
on
there
it's
85
percent,
built
out
as
our
one
single-family
residential
so
for
I,
guess
to
add
various
different
zoning
amenities
or
lake
amenities.
L
More
so
this
this
lake,
commercial
district,
would
allow
for
the
permitted
uses
that
are
appropriate
for
Lake
commercial
and
then
the
conditional
use
is
that
we
would
want
the
Board
of
adjustments
to
take
a
deeper
look
at
and
really
evaluate
if
it
urged
units
stirred
shops
which
needs
to
be
defined.
Apartments
using
the
upper
floors
of
commercial
buildings
and
a
recreation
facility.
G
L
A
K
L
L
Was
standalone
because
if
you're
say
say
you
have
and
most
likely
this
would
never
happened,
because
you
would
want
to
utilize
your
property
for
a
business
or
a
structure
but
say
somebody
had
a
lot
that
they
wanted
for
people
to
park
to
be
able
to
park
on
a
Jason
or
across
the
street
from
a
landing.
Why.
G
Conceptually
I
guess
in
my
mind,
I'm
thinking
of
a
commercial
Lake
District,
that's
gonna,
be
different
than
the
C
2,
or
a
C
3
or
or
what
have
you
if
we're
creating
a
separate
commercial
district?
Wouldn't
that
be
more
or
less
trying
to
a
more
restrictive
commercial
district.
That's
generally
supportive,
of
course,
uses
that
are
related
to
people
living
at
the
lake
and
those
things
that
they
need,
like.
Maybe
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
boat
rental,
I'm.
I
K
I
agree:
I
agree
totally.
We
had
just
the
discussion
that
85%
of
the
land
is
already
essentially
privately
owned
and
I
feel
like
if
we
want
to
get
the
non
Lake
user
and
non
Lake
property
owners
on
board
with
spending
taxpayer
dollars
to
do
certain
things
out
there
as
a
conference,
we
need
to
find
a
way
to
allow
them
better
use
of
the
lake
and
more
access
and
I.
Just
don't
feel
like
storage
unit
or
a
storage
shop.
L
K
Just
looking
for
ways
that
would
allow
more
people
not
use
up
the
small
portion
of
land
that
we
have
left
available
with
the
things
that
really
maybe
don't
compliment,
Lake,
Recreation
and
living
adjacent
to
the
lake,
they
could
be
located
other
places.
It
doesn't
require
a
lake
to
do
those
things
and
it
doesn't
enhance
lake
use.
I.
Don't.
A
Know
that
I
would
necessarily
preclude
those
things.
Although
I
am
you
know,
thinking
along
the
same
lines,
I
did
have
some
notes,
I
shared
with
brandy
and
I,
think
she
asked
him
out
as
well
other
members
of
the
board.
You
know
I
thought
a
lot
about
what
this
commercial
Lake
District
should
be,
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
and
you
you
did
see
in
the
presentation
that
85%
mark,
so
we've
we've
taken
away
the
natural
ecosystem
of
the
lake
in
in
all
that
area
and
replaced
it
with
pretty
densely
packed
single-family
properties.
A
You
know
these
are
properties.
We
know
the
challenges,
they
don't
meet
the
requirements
of
our
one
in
the
normal
City
right,
because
we
have
such
such
a
density
out
there.
We
need
to
look
at
the
rest
of
the
property
that
we
have
out
there
to
try
to
preserve
the
natural
elements
as
much
as
possible.
That's
a
common
theme
in
all
of
these
lake
projects
that
we've
looked
at.
However,
we
need
to
acknowledge
the
fact
that
this
land
is
going
to
continues
to
develop
and
that
we
need
to
approach
this.
A
The
shared
asset
of
our
community
in
a
way
that
both
preserves
the
natural
beauty
of
this
asset
as
well
as
allows
for
the
development
to
continue
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
of
a
thread
in
the
needle
situation.
Honestly,
so
the
types
of
uses
that
we
want
in
a
lake,
trees
and
landscaping
standards
are
a
little
bit
higher
green
spaces.
Are
higher.
Screening
is
a
little
bit
more
appropriate
for
this
type
of
mixed
use
and
preserving
of
the
natural
encouraging
developers
to
maintain
wetlands
and
existing
tree
structures
wherever
possible.
A
G
Think
a
lion's
share
of
the
conditional
uses
that
you
have
lists
are
there
I
think
most
of
them
are
probably
not
appropriate,
and
in
what
I'm
talking
about
a
commercial
lake
district,
we
could
still
lose
on
C,
2
or
C
3
in
different
areas
by
the
lake.
So
you
can
do
some
of
those
types
of
uses
in
those
districts.
The
CL
district
is
again,
I
can
see
a
car
wash
I
could
see
a
resort.
I
mean
I'm,
not
necessarily
certain
that
we
need
to
have.
G
You
know
an
office
complex
or
something
like
that
at
the
C
in
the
at
the
c3
bars.
The
taverns
are
something
that
people
would
utilize
truck
and
bus
terminal
I'm,
not
sure
we
would
need
that.
Definitely
number
nine
is
there's
nothing
that
we
would
do
with
number
nine.
As
far
as
the
other
uses,
we
got
a
new
use,
let's
just
change
the
ordinance
and
I'd.
G
Do
it
on
the
fly
as
far
as
those
permitted
uses,
some
of
them
could
be
shifted
down
into
the
conditional
uses
and,
in
my
opinion,
again
take
those
certain
commercial
uses
that
are
supportive
of
Lake
life
where
I
live
I'm.
Not
thinking,
oh
god,
I
need
a
six-pack,
I'm
gonna
drive
out
to
the
lake,
go
back
home
again
or
need
to
go,
buy
a
hammer
and
a
hammer
sail
out
my
you
know:
lake.
G
Those
are
the
types
of
things
so
I
mean
you
know.
There
are
other
lake
communities
that
have
types
of
specific
commercial
uses
that
they
list
and
rather
than
being
very
broad.
We
might
want
to
be
more
specific.
That's
just
my
thoughts,
because
I
can
still
go
out
and
rezone
something
c2.
If
I
want
to
do
something
more
than
than
that,
and
that
becomes
it's
still
option
it's
an
option.
It
might
be
more
of
an
uphill
fight.
But
again,
what's
what's
the
point?
What
are
we
trying
to
get
accomplished
here?
I.
L
Think
when
we
had
first
talked
about
the
lake
commercial
I
was
more
so
you
know
looking
at
the
highway
commercial
district
and
people's
reservations
for
some
of
the
uses
that
were
permitted
there.
So
really
this
one.
It's
a
step
back
from
from
that,
for
sure
I
mean
because
the
the
main
the
main
concerns
were
like
a
gas
station
or
a
truck
stop
I
mean
that
what
those
were
the
two
that
really.
G
A
Use
that's
the
thing
I
we
went
through
those
hearings.
We
talked
about
whether
c3
was
appropriate
for
that
and
it
is
immediately
adjacent
to
highway
20,
which
is
a
major
highway
here,
and
it
was
approved,
as
you
know,
c3
highway
commercial,
it's
appropriate
when
it's
next
to
a
major
thoroughfare
like
a
like
a
highway
20.
What
we're
talking
about
here
from
a
commercial
lake
district
is
something
that's
off
of
highway.
20
around
the
rest
of
the
perimeter
of
the
lake
and.
I
A
O
L
A
L
To
note,
too,
that
for
like
the
design
to
add
design
standards
to
this
lake
commercial
district
as
well.
Just
so
then,
if
there
is
any
exterior
walls
that
are
facing
in
our
ones
own
property
that
it
have
that
it
meets
certain
criteria.
Just
so
then,
because
we've
heard
too
that
people
don't
like
to
look
at
metal
contractor
shops
so
that
it
would
be
all.
G
A
I
mean
I'd
like
to
take
a
look
at
all
that
I.
Don't
necessarily
think
that
we
need
to
be
as
as
exclusive
as
we
were:
a
gateway
overlay
district,
but
I
think
we
need
to
do
something:
I'm
not
opposed
to
Pho
products,
either
I
know
we.
We
don't
have
they're
excluded
from
from
certain
districts
like
the
gateways.
Those
products
are
looking
pretty
good
and
a
lot
of
times.
You
can't
tell
the
difference
and
you
can
be
very
economical
there.
So
it's.
A
Aesthetics
here
and
to
me
honestly,
it's
about
green
space.
It's
about
trees
is
about
maintaining
the
aesthetic
and
so
wherever
possible.
If
we
can,
if
we
can
encourage
development
that
maintains
some
of
these
natural
elements,
while
still
allowing
for
development,
I,
think
that's
something
we
need
to
strongly
encourage.
Yeah.
L
Fo
products
somewhere
I
mean
so
I
looked
at
what
we
had
for
the
RG,
the
residential
garage
district,
as
well
as
the
gateway
overlay
district
and
came
up
with
something
that
felt
appropriate
for
still
upholding
the
aesthetic
standard,
but
then
not
having
it
be
whatever.
The
word
is
too
egregious
as
the
gateway
overlay
district.
We
run
into
that
a
little
bit.
Yeah.
A
L
I
think
that
you
know
so,
if
we
look
at
the
permitted
uses
and
really
hone
in
on
what's
appropriate
for
Lots
that
are
not
adjacent
to
the
highway.
So
looking
at
it,
even
the
step
back,
see
three
and
then
not
even
to
even
look
at
it
and
I
guess
make
I
can't
think
of
what
I'm
thinking
of
right
now,
but
just
pick
it
apart
a
little
bit
more
and
you
guys
want
even
less
obtrusive
things
to
be
included
as
permitted
and
then
maybe
moved
to
conditional
use.
I
think.
G
If
we're
talking
about
a
restrictive
commercial
district
that
supports
uses
at
the
lake,
that's
fine,
I
I,
don't
care
if
we
end
up
having
seven
commercial
districts
at
the
lake.
If
that's
what
you
want
to
do,
if
you
want
to
give
options,
but
if
we're
going
to
start
with
just
a
single
commercial
Lake
District,
then
from
what
we
saw
in
the
planning
process,
there's
some
issue
that
they
don't
want
to
see
too
much.
G
But
if
we're
talking
about
trying
to
find
things
where
I'd
rather
see
a
commercial
Lake
District,
where
we
have
very
few
conditional
uses
and
just
have
things
that
were
okey-doke
with
and
that
way,
I
don't
have
to
see
them
and
have
to
have
people
yell
and
scream
at
us
when
we
all
say
that
they
can
only
come
out
is
the
first
time
that
we
rezone
it.
And
then
it's
done.
G
C
A
G
This
is
a
really
another:
it's
a
transition
zone,
it's
really
a
transition
zone
from
whatever
we
call
our
residential
length
of
the
districts,
whatever
that's
good
to
be
to
maybe
an
art
or
an
r32,
a
commercial
like
commercial
to
maybe
a
situ
to
a
c3
I
mean
I.
Look
at
more
again,
it's
a
transition
zone,
it's
a
mixed
use
zone
or
what
I
mean?
That's,
that's
again,
that's
how
I
envision
it-
and
this
is
a
good
starting
place
great.
This
is
a
great
discussion,
we're
having
a
night
yeah.
K
A
Know
it's
something
that
we
need
to
look
at
I,
don't
know!
If
you
know
now
is
the
appropriate
time
to
sort
of
having
that
conversation,
but
I
think
we
as
a
community
need
to
look
at.
You
know
how
we're
maintaining
those
public
access
points,
how
we're
notifying
the
community
of
them
and
also
how
we're
protecting
adjacent
landowners
to
some
extent
with
you
know,
maybe
fencing
or
screening
of
some
type
of
notification,
of
where
the
public
access
point
is
and
ends
and
where
private
property
begins.
A
It's
a
balancing
act
of
encouraging
the
full
community
to
use
these
things,
but
also
to
protect
neighbors
and
in
some
of
these
cases,
with
these
public
access
points
around
the
lake,
they've
they've
almost
been
absorbed
into
the
the
neighboring
properties,
because
the
only
people
that
use
them
are
the
neighbors.
We
even
you
know
we
even
have
you
know
people
using
it
as
almost
a
driveway
in
some
situations.
A
I
I
A
Are
gonna
be
some
of
the
you
know
the
potential
investments
that
I
think
the
City
Council
is
going
to
need
to
look
at
making,
as
a
result
of
you
know,
encouraging
this,
this
master
plan
to
move
forward.
We
need
to
invest
in
our
community,
and-
and
this
is
a
cherished
resource
you
know
for
all
of
us
to
enjoy.
It's
not
just
you
know.
The
people
that
live
at
the
lake
that
enjoy
lake
investigates
the
entire
community
and.
K
K
I
Back
to
the
storage
units
and
the
storage
shops
that
you
have
listed
there
I
think
that
since
we
have
that
g1
as
a
arti
RG.
But
why
are
we
not
just
if
they
want
to
develop
that?
That's
what
they
come
before
us
and
and
want
that
zoning,
for
instead
of
making
that
a
conditional
use
under
this
I
think
the
whole
that.
I
L
Just
because
then
I
mean
the
the
RG
has
even
higher
standards,
where
that's
like
even
a
transition
between
probably
late
commercial
and
then,
if
somebody
came
in
and
and
rezone
their
property
too
late
commercial
and
say
it
was
five
acres
that
they
can
incorporate.
Amenities
like
these,
that
that
people
could
store
their
boats
and
whatnot.
What.
G
I
see
this
I
see
this
more
of
it's
a
redevelopment
zone
and
where
we're
applicable,
because
you
will
have
some
version
development
of
this,
but
there
may
be
people
who
are
wanting
to
do
something
with
a
commercial
status
on
the
lake.
This
would
be
the
the
tool
that
they
would
utilize
as
well,
so
I'd
want
to
make
sure
you
know.
Ten
thousand
is
probably
adequate,
because.
L
Two,
if
you
guys
want
to
continue
like
if
you
it
would
be
helpful
if
any
feedback
that
you
could
provide
of
maybe
even
just
saying
what
permitted
uses
you
think
would
be
appropriate
and
just
shoot
me,
an
email,
I
I
would
appreciate
it.
It
just
helps
me
get
a
better
feel
for
what
everyone's
thinking
and
then
to
to
hear
from
more.
G
Work
session
type
work
on
this,
as
opposed
to
be
doing
it
in
a
I,
mean
it's
nothing,
wrong,
I'm
doing
in
a
public
setting
and
doing
a
regular
Planning
Commission
meeting.
But
if
well
I'm,
just
saying
not
everybody
that
has
to
come.
But
if
you
want
to
make
some
work
sessions
that
you
can
get
it
and
the
people
here
and
and
if
you're
talking
about
I'm
talking
about
a
Planning
Commission
I'm,
not
saying
that
you
have
to
engage
everybody.
Let's
talk
about
what.
F
G
A
J
D
G
Recommendation
at
this
point
in
time
is
staff
is
looking
for
direction
from
us.
I
would
like
to
take
a
three
or
four
person
committee
and
people
want
it.
That's
made
up
of
the
Planning
Commission
sit
down
with
staff
so
that
we
could
get
something
so
that
the
public
has
something
to
react
to
not
developing
this
in
a
vacuum
by
any
means,
but
to
have
something
that,
from
a
Planning,
Commission
standpoint
we're
in
general
agreement
and
then.
G
A
That's
a
similar
approach
to
to
some
of
the
other
big
projects
that
we've
done.
Where
we've
done
working
sessions
like
that
and
then
opened
it
up.
For
you
know
public
input
as
it
becomes
a
little
bit
more
mature
and
then
certainly
go
through
the
normal
process
of
public
hearings
and
public
notice.
Yeah
I
mean
I,
don't
think
it's
a
bad
idea
and
I
would
certainly
be
willing
to
participate
in
more
extensive
discussions
and.
L
H
L
A
H
I
agree
and
I
appreciate
mr.
Kay's
perspective
on
getting
something
that
we
as
staff
and
and
a
few
of
you.
Members
is
aboard,
obviously
without
having
a
majority
president
that
are
comfortable
with
and
then
getting
it
out
to
the
to
the
full
board
and
to
the
public
for
further
review
and
further
discussion
at
that
point.
I
think
that
that
helps
progress,
move
forward
in
a
productive
manner.
L
Okay,
so
with
it,
we
brought
this
up
at
the
last
meeting
and
I
hope
you
guys
have
had
a
chance
to
look
it
over
this
one
I
also
emailed
out,
and
basically
what
we
want
to
accomplish
here
is
to
give
you
guys
the
information
and
and
actually
to
back
it
up
the
PUD.
The
Planned
Unit
development
is
basically
a
mixed
use
district
that
one
of
our
zoning
ordinances
don't
fit
currently.
L
L
It
has
modification
powers
where
you
can
alter
setback
requirements,
height
limits,
billing
size
limits,
offs
off
street
parking
regulations,
landscape
requirements
and
density
limits
that
we
currently
have
an
ordinance
and
that
most
other
districts
would
adhere
to
unless
they
were
asking
for
a
very
so
this
they
would
be
showing
you
the
following
things,
but
so
for
the
procedure
of
how
this
would
work
for
a
developer
coming
in
that
wants
to
utilize
a
PUD
district.
They
would
have
a
staff
review,
so
they
would
bring
their
idea
to
the
design
review
team.
L
L
That's
city
staff
and
then
the
plan
commission
chairman
and
then
we
have
so
for
city
staff.
It's
the
building
official
city,
engineer,
assistant
city,
engineer,
planner,
the
park
director,
the
fire
marshal
utilities,
street
superintendent,
police
chief
so
and
then
on
first
District.
So
it's
a
oh,
oh
yeah
and
that's
City
Attorney.
A
L
L
So
then
at
least
they're
getting
all
all
perspectives
that
they
would
need
to
and
to
get
pertinent
information
I'm
moving
forward
with
their
project.
So
then
they
would
develop
a
PD
plan
which
you'll
see
here,
there's
one
through
six
of
that
the
applicant
shall
prepare
and
the
following
supportive
graphic
and
written
information
materials
as
follows,
and
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
want
me
to
read
those
or
if
you
can
read
yourself.
L
So
then
it
would
go
so
say
the
PUD
plan
checked
out
and
the
Planning
Commission
recommended
it
to
City
Council.
Then
it
would
still
go
forward
as
a
normal
rezone,
but
the
PUD
plan
would
be
a
part
of
that.
So
when
council
would
approve
the
the
rizona
ssin,
the
PUD
plan
would
then
also
be
approved,
and
that
would
be
an
exhibit
to
the
petition
and
then
then
they
would
still
have
to
go
forward.
They
take
that
pewdie
plan
and
still
work
through
our
title
24,
our
subdivision
ordinance.
L
L
Enough
information
to
really
weigh
out
if
it's,
if
it
is
a
benefit
and
if
it
makes
sense
for
the
neighborhood
but
then
so,
but
it
doesn't,
they
don't
have
to
disregard
the
subdivision
ordinance.
They
still
have
to
work
through
that
process.
So
then
it
would
come
as
a
preliminary
plan
back
to
plan
commission
with
a
public
hearing
and
if
I'll
reverse,
when
they
come
with
the
rezone.
It's
also
a
public
hearing
as
a
normal
process
would
be
so.
G
Bottom
line,
what
this
does
is
it
kind
of
reverses
how
we
sort
of
new
things
right
now
we're
previous
PUD
a
bit
more
engineering
intensive
on
the
front
end,
as
opposed
to
the
back
and
there's
less
of
a
upfront
costs
of
the
development
perspective
in
both
time
and
and
money.
And
here
what
we're
doing
is
the
Planning
Commission
is
we're
hearing
the
conceptual
idea
what
they
want
to
do
with
this
area,
and
so
we're
only
this.
G
L
Yeah
and
like
in
that
process
would
be
more
with
the
conditional
use
which
is
kind
of
where
we're
trying
to
get
to,
because
a
lot
of
the
times
we've
been
having
a
lot
of
information
upfront,
as
you
guys
have
been
accustomed
to
seeing
the
site
plan
when
that
can
change
when
it
goes
through
the
commercial
site
plan
application,
when
we
make
sure
that
it
checks
out
with
our
ordinance.
So
then,
with
this
rezone.
Typically,
they
don't
have
to
show
any
more
information
than
just
the
property
boundaries.
L
The
adjacent
zoning
just
should
they
show
that
exhibit
with
the
petition,
but
because
they're
asking
for
a
combination
of
something
that
we
don't
have
in
our
ordinance.
But
we
want
to
allow
for
them
to
be
able
to
provide
us
with
something
to
react
to
then
that's
where
they're
having
to
do
some
they're
having
to
provide
more
information
than
they
would
typically
in
a
rezone.
L
H
I
made
mr.
chair
yep
along
the
points
mr.
Caze
is
making
he's
exactly
right,
we're
trying
we
as
staff
in
this
draft.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
accomplish
a
healthy
balance
of
what
it
is,
we're
requiring
up
front
for
a
PUD.
We
want
to
have
a
certain
level
of
information.
There's
no
doubt
upfront,
because
the
whole
purpose
behind
a
PUD
is
you're,
allowing
for
things
that
aren't
otherwise
allowed
and
the
other
zoning
districts,
such
as
lesser
setbacks,
mixed
uses
things
of
that
nature
that
aren't
allowed
on
the
other
standardized
zoning
districts.
H
H
Well,
there's
enough
where
we
as
a
community,
you,
as
the
decision
makers,
have
some
sound
information
in
front
of
you
to
know
whether
this
is
a
good
fit
as
a
PUD
in
a
certain
proposed
area,
while
not
breaking
the
bank,
so
to
speak
in
order
to
accomplish
a
PUD
on
the
development
side,
and
there
is
a
I
think
a
fine
line
there
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
get
to
is
to
make
sure
we're
on
that
line
and
it's
a
good
healthy
balance.
Yeah.
A
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
really
good
proposal,
and
this
is
exactly
the
kind
of
information
that
you
know.
You
want
to
see
up
front
so
yeah,
it's
good.
The
one
question
I
guess
I
have
is
in
the
section
regarding
the
amendments
to
the
PUD
plan,
and
so
if
there
is
substantial
changes
to
the
PDO
plan,
it
does
describe
that
it's
got
to
come
back
for
public
hearing
and
submission
for
amend.
It
is
that
through
the
plan
Commission
and
then
subsequently
the
City
Council.
L
J
L
L
G
An
exhibit
it's
an
it's
an
addendum
to
it,
and
so,
if
I'm
gonna,
you
just
have
to
turn
to
determine
I,
think
and
I
defer
to
staff.
What's
a
minor
and
what's
a
major
change,
and
if
you
want
to
you
know
if
it's
a
completely
different
land
use
that
they
had
and
talked
about
to
me,
that's
a
major
change.
G
A
L
L
P
P
I
just
want
kind
of
the
board's
idea
or
or
to
even
think
about
this
and
get
back
to
me
on
it.
Where
there
is
no
mixed
use
in
Watertown,
see
one
you
can
go,
have
an
apartment
above
a
retail.
If
that's
something
that
would
fit
into
the
c2
as
a
conditional
use,
because
currently
you
can
do
a
motel
Hotel.
You
know
that
keeps
people
there
and
it's
actually
more
intrusive
to
a
neighborhood
than
say
somebody
living
there.
P
You
know
assisted
living
center
again
somebody
living
there
just
your
idea
on
maybe
doing
adding
that,
like
the
c1
to
the
c2.
If
we
had
a
commercial
use
like
that
that
on
the
stories
above
it
we
could
do
some
sort
of
permanent
housing,
condo
apartment,
something
of
that
nature,
because
we
we
do
as
a
community,
we
lacked
the
mixed-use.
So
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
you
know
we're
looking
at
a
project
that
we're
looking
at
going
forward
with,
but
we
can't
fit
it.
The
box
set
that
you
guys
want
I'm.
A
Personally,
I'm
a
strong
advocate
for
for
mixed
commercial
and
residential
use.
This
is
a
this
is
a
trend
that
used
to
be
prevalent
in
in
America
I
mean
you
look
at
downtown,
Watertown
and
and
how
we
had
residential
above
commercial
operations
and
it's
something
that
we've
gone
away
from,
but
a
lot
of
communities
are
moving
back
to
now,
because
we
look
at
things
like
you
know:
neighborhood
ownership
and
community
and
walkability,
and
these
are
all
things
that
are
promoted
by
having
this
mixed
type.
Use.
A
I've
been
I
travel,
a
fair
amount
and
I've
been
to
some
really
really
amazing
locations
that
have
been
redeveloped
into
this
kind
of
mixed
used
environment.
And
it's
it's
fantastic
to
see.
The
amount
of
you
know
fun
that
people
are
having
in
these
areas,
I
mean
they've,
got
parks,
surrounded
by
mixed-use
apartments
and
commercial
areas
that
really
kind
of
create
this
community
within
a
community.
You.
P
Know
and
personally
I
really
like
the
idea
and
honestly
like
if
you
have
somebody
living
above,
let's
say
any
other
any
one
of
these
other
uses.
The
safety
of
that
that
is
is
increased
because
you
do
have
those
people
that
are
really
committed
to
that
area.
They're
committed
to
the
things
that
happen
in
that
area.
We're
just
wondering
if
that's
the
best
way
to
bring
a
project
like
that
to
you
guys.
G
A
P
G
We
need
to
add
that
use
I,
don't
know
permitted
you.
So
if
it's
a
conditions,
I
would
think
that
if
we
could
put
some
design
standards
into
what
we
mean
by
that
you
just
make
it
a
permitted
use
in
the
commercial
and
some
of
those
commercial
zones.
The
biggest
thing
that
you
have
to
deal
with
when
you
have
some
living
above
a
building
and
if
you're
at
downtown
is
whether
they
parks
in
a
car.
That's
that's.
Some
of
the
biggest
things
that
you
have
to
worry
about
is
just
off
street
parking.
G
If
you
said
a
c2
zone
where
there's
availability,
frost,
street
parking
and
there's
two
or
three
or
four
others,
little
design
things
that
you'd
want
to
put
in
there.
If
you
could
do
that,
I
say
make
it
a
permitted
use
subject
to
these
criteria,
and
if
you
can't
meet
those
criteria,
then
you
come
back
as
a
conditional
use
and.
A
A
P
H
G
L
Been
looking
at
the
mixed-use
districts,
and
that
was
something
that
was
prevalent
at
the
beginning
of
the
year,
I
would
say,
and
then
we
got
on
all
these
other
rabbit
trails,
but
I
think
what
with
Mike
talking
about
the
c2
is.
If
we
want
to
encourage
mixed-use
that
we
would
allow
like
to
say
just
even
even
to
put
it
as
conditional
use
to
say
apartments
above
commercial
buildings.
We.
G
A
P
P
Both
people
staying
and
living
in
and
and
I'd
say
a
condo
is,
or
an
apartment
is
less
intrusive
than
a
hotel
motel,
because
people
do
have
skin
in
the
games
and
they're
looking
out
for
the
area
a
lot
more
than
somebody
who's
going
to
be
there
for
a
night,
so
yeah
I
would
if
we
can
get
started
or
moving
on
that,
where
you
guys
feel
comfortable.
That
would
be
something
that
you
know
we
could
would
help
us
move
along
and,
and
it
fits
in
a
box
that
we
don't
currently
have.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I.
C
G
L
And
then
to
you
know
like
we'll,
build
off
that
and
try
to
get
an
actual
mixed-use,
but
I
think
that
that
it
having
that
as
an
additional
use,
you
can
still
look
at
it,
but
just
getting
that
in
there
I
think
is
appropriate.
And
so
I
could
have
that
you
already
by
December
19th,
but
I
would
have
had
to
send
them
notice
by
you.