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From YouTube: Plan Commission Meeting 04 04 2019
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City of Watertown, SD
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This
agenda
item
is
resolution:
20
1903
designating
the
boundaries
of
the
tax
incremental
district
number,
seven,
the
city
of
Watertown
and
then
at
this
time,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Tobey
Morris
with
Dougherty
and
company.
If
you
would
like
to
he'll,
give
a
he'll
give
the
background
to
what
you
guys
are
looking
at
today.
G
Toby
Morris,
with
a
dirtying
company
from
Pierre
South
Dakota.
We
have
an
office
in
Sioux,
Falls
and
headquarter
out
of
Minneapolis
and
work
a
lot
with
economic
development,
tax,
increment
districts,
I.
Think
it's
been
about
probably
four
or
five
months
since
last
presented-
and
we
came
in
the
overview-
told
you
about
the
project,
then.
So
what
I
wanted
to
do
is
probably
give
you
more
of
an
in-depth
overview.
The
the
process
that
we're
involved
with
I
know
the
Commission's
been
somewhat
familiar
with
the
the
Tiff's,
but
I
don't
take
anything
for
granted.
G
So
by
all
means,
if
I
say
something,
you
have
questions,
just
stop
me
right
there
and
we'll
go
through
it.
What
tonight
does
is
that
really
sets
the
formal
boundaries
related
to
the
Tareq's
expansion
that
was
going
in
place.
The
the
biggest
question
that
always
comes
from
a
tax
increment
district
is
where
are
the
proceeds
from
the
future?
Revenue
is
going
to
go,
and
in
this
case
it's
related
to
the
infrastructure
cost
that
are
all
spilled
out
into
the
plan
and
to
help
offset
those
public
infrastructure
costs
associated
with
it.
G
F
Think
a
couple
of
other
members,
we
haven't
had
a
chance
to
read
through
it
as
a
lot
of
information
on
there
and
I'm,
not
so
sure
that
we
might
not
have
a
new
member
or
two,
since
the
last
time
that
you
presented
I
could
be
wrong
there
too,
but
I
mean
it's
been
been
up
in
a
while,
so
feel
free
to
give
as
much
background
information
as
you
can
and
if
I
could
ask
one
question.
Just
for
clarity.
G
Being
that
tax
increment
districts
are
very
specific
and
require
an
in-depth
knowledge
on
that,
what
we
do
is
we've.
We
worked
at
a
lot
of
times
for
the
city
for
focus,
Watertown
and
fort
Eric's,
because
there's
a
process
that
goes
through
to
make
certain
that
one,
the
TIF
falls
within
the
codified
law,
which
it
does
to
to
make
sure
that
when
you
submit
a
TIF
it
it
still
has
to
go
through
Department
of
Revenue
for
their
sign
off,
which
has
been
approved
by
their
part.
On
that,
so
I
am
paid
from
the
TIF
proceeds.
G
My
contract
would
actually
be
with
focus
Watertown,
but
with
the
nature
of
Dougherty,
we've
always
done
public
finance.
So
it's
a
great
question
so
I
would
say:
I
represent
the
project
to
make
certain,
in
this
case,
as
an
economic
development
project
that
it
has
followed
all
the
qualified
laws
that
it
does
fall
in
place
with
Department
of
Revenue
and.
F
G
Say
what
this
is
is
it's
the
culmination
of
several
years
of
discussion
to
ensure
that
the
expansion
did
happen
here
with
in
Watertown,
as,
as
you
know,
with
economic
development,
it's
extremely
competitive
world
out
there,
and
now
that
everything
has
come
to
full
circle,
it
does
look
like.
Yes,
it's
the
chicken
and
the
egg
kind
of
deal
we're
coming
a
little
bit
late
to
the
table,
but
it's
really
formalizing
a
lot
of
discussions
that
happen
to
make
sure
that
it
does
fit
within
the
TIF
law.
G
G
F
H
Chris
shulk
and
Watertown
bellman
company,
so
early
on
in
this
project
we
reached
out
to
Toby,
as
this
project
was
complicated
to
begin
with,
I
think
there
probably
should
be
some
clarification
of
you
know.
The
TIF
has
been
approved
by
City
Council
in
the
form
of
the
agreement
with
Terrax,
where
we
laid
out
the
tax
increment
amount
and
how
we
would
get
to
that
amount.
So
Toby
is
here,
I
mean
the
agreements
with
us
gets
paid
for
by
the
TIF,
but,
being
it's
a
big
complicated
project
in
dollar
amount?
H
G
So
here
we
are
all
practicing
economic
development,
blighting
a
cornfield
and
we're
like
wait,
a
minute
timeout.
So
over
the
course
of
the
time
the
the
laws
have
evolved
to
allow
tax
increment
as
a
financing
tool,
one
of
the
very
few
that
developers
have
in
their
pocket.
So
the
question
then
comes:
why
planning
and
zoning?
Why
is
planning
a
zoning
involved?
Technically,
the
full
reason
for
planning
and
zoning
is
to
say:
okay,
the
boundaries
are
consistent.
They
are
contiguous
and
that
the
land
is
zoned
correctly
within
that,
then
you
guys
are
charged
with
saying
okay.
G
We
know
that
from
a
planning
and
zoning
side
it
fits
within
these
laws.
It
then,
is
passed
up
to
the
city,
where
the
amount
essentially
is
negotiated
between
the
company
between
the
city
as
that
economic
development
tool,
but
we
still
have
to
follow
some
of
the
rules
and
that
being
coming
through
the
planning
zoning
first,
because
I
like
to
have
an
open
process
and
go
through
the
TIF
plan,
because
it's
it's
tax
dollars
of
what
the
companies
paying
it's,
not
a
tax
break
for
the
company
by
any
means
they're
still
paying
the
full
amount.
G
It's
just
were
those
monies
are
being
you
what
those
monies
are
being
used
for,
and
in
this
case
it's
to
offset
the
infrastructure
cost
and
that's
why
we
have
the
TIF
plan
in
front
of
you
here
today
that
we
can
gladly
go
through
because
it
involves
a
set
of
projections.
How
does
this
get
paid
back?
It
involves
basically
me
certifying
with
the
company
with
focused
watertown,
on
what
those
costs
are
going
to
be
used
for
things
that
they're
not
going
to
be
used.
For
you
know,
developer
fees,
interest
and
I
can
go
through
that.
F
D
Mark
2
this
a
little
bit
South
Dakota,
codified
law
Oh
says
that
we're
supposed
to
have
a
hearing
in
the
Planning
Commission
first
and
then
the
Planning
Commission
shall,
which
means
we
have
to
we
don't
have
to.
But
in
order
for
a
TIF
to
proceed,
we
shall
adopt
a
project
plan.
So
that's
our
mm-hmm.
The
end
goal
today
is
to
determine
whether
or
not
we
should
do
that
and
then
it
gets
kicked
up
to
the
council.
So.
F
C
G
G
So
in
the
project
plan
we
talk
as
we
go
through.
We
give
an
introduction
of
what
it's
about
who's
it
for
and
that's
where
we
give
an
overview
of
the
Tareq's
company
and
a
lot
of
that
really
comes
from
their
website.
We
have
to
be
very
careful
we
put
in
there
as
a
publicly
traded
company,
and
so
that's
where
we
describe
who
Tareq's
as
Tarek
South
Dakota
the
project
in
itself
a
Mallard
point.
We
then
go
into
and
look
at
definitions,
because
it
is
a
legal
document.
G
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
define
some
of
these
definitions
that
are
in
there,
where
what's
the
infrastructure
and
in
particular
and
I'm
gonna
really
point
out
I.
Think
if
we
go
to
page
8
page
7,
we
have
I
should
say
page
7.
We
have
the
legal
description
of
that,
but
page
8,
one
of
the
laws
that
we
have
to
follow
so
make
sure
that
cities
don't
go
tiff
happy,
and
so
you
can
never
have
more
than
10%
of
your
set
valuation.
A
total
combination
of
Tiff's.
G
If
you
look
at
the
city
of
Watertown,
I
can
see
from
the
numbers
here
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
fiducial
responsibilities
in
terms
of
very
careful
on
what
tips
would
do
your
on
number
7
through
certain
cities
in
the
state
that
102?
So
you
can
see,
there's
a
very
broad
spectrum
and
in
how
some
cities
have
used
them,
which
I'll
explain
a
little
bit
later,
because
then
it's
going
to
get
defined
further
of
why
we
have
to
have
Department
of
Revenue's,
essentially
their
sign-off
on
how
this
is
going
to
work.
G
G
On
page
9
is
probably
the
most
important
part
of
the
whole
entire
TIF
plan,
and
that's
where
we
look
at
the
numbers
when,
as
Tiff's
have
evolved,
we
went
to
the
legislature
and
really
in
about
2012
to
change
the
law
to
allow
for
that
line.
Item
called
the
discretionary
cost
and
grants
under
the
old
theory.
If
we
would
have
put
this
all
under
infrastructure,
which
this
is
going
towards
a
true
public
improvement
involved,
that
the
city
had
to
hold
the
contract,
bid
the
contract
and
then
essentially
be
responsible
for
the
contract.
G
Well,
the
last
thing
that
we
want
to
do
is
put
a
city
in
any
kind
of
liable
form
of
any
form
or
fashion
in
this
TIF.
Here
it
is
purely
a
pass-through
from
the
city's
part.
So
if
my
projections
are
completely
off
and
this
7
million
dollars
does
not
get
paid
back
over
course,
a
time
to
the
company
there's
no
liability
on
the
city
side
whatsoever,
we
do
know
the
company
is
putting
in
this
amount
of
cost,
if
not
more,
that
would
be
eligible,
but
we're
only
quantifying
the
7
million
dollars.
G
So
this
allowed
the
flexibility
of
a
city
to
be
a
partner
with
economic
development,
but
not
to
be
liable,
and
so
that's
where
we
just
we
deemed
it
as
a
discretionary
cost
and
grant
in
particular.
The
word
grant
is
because
it's
an
IRS
term
that
we've
quantified
even
further,
because
in
a
tiff
you
have
to
have
all
funds
expended
in
five
years
by
classifying
it
as
a
grant.
What's
the
city
doing
they're
growing,
you
know
the
rebate,
basically
of
seven
million
dollars.
G
E
J
J
E
D
Since
this
8th
category
was
added
discretionary
cost
and
grants
what
sort
of
vehicles
do
we
have
in
place
to
assure
that
that
the
funds
will
be
used
as
sort
of
sold
to
us,
I
mean
what
we're
talking
about
right,
you're
talking
but
they're
gonna
be
used
for
infrastructure
cost.
So
how
do
we?
How
do
we
know?
That's
gonna
happen.
G
F
G
So
in
there
and
I'm
trying
to
think
of,
if
you
go
to
page
18,
this
table
here
of
the
project
cost
comes
from
the
projected
engineer.
This
is
just
what
gets
to
the
seven
million
dollars.
One
thing
you'll
notice
in
here
is:
there
is
not
a
financing
cost.
Most
tips
have
a
component
of
interest,
so
even
if
I
were
to
assign
three
percent
on
seven
million,
you
know
over
18
years.
G
You
know:
what's
that,
going
to
be
probably
another
three
four
million
dollars
I
could
have
put
the
TIF
at
eleven
million
dollars,
but
rather
what
we
do
is
we
look
at
it,
and
we
say
this
TIF
is
at
zero
percent.
It's
to
offset
these
costs
over
here,
I
could
go
in
and
quantify
cost
per
South
Dakota
law
above
and
beyond
the
seven
million.
These
are
still
cost.
That
will
probably
be
remitted
as
invoices
as
proof
to
the
city
as
you
go
forward,
but
we're
starting
out
by
saying
the
you
know
common
sense.
G
G
Page
twenty
one
so
have
a
set
of
projections
here
in
page
twenty
one
that
I
have
to
justify
my
cost
one
under
codified
law,
but
two
we
have
to
provide
a
feasibility
study.
So
even
though
I
can
put
eleven
million
dollars
worth
of
costs
in
there,
I'm
only
projecting
7.2
million
of
actual
reimbursement.
So
then
one
would
contradict
the
other.
So
that's
where
seven
million
became
the
underlying
or
if
not,
the
overruling,
number
of
what
that
actual
TIF
amount
can
be.
What.
D
G
The
expense
that
they
make
will
be
determined
by
the
building
that
goes
up.
If
they
don't
have
these
underlying
things
per
the
engineer.
The
site
work
the
electrical,
the
water,
the
sewer,
then
they're
not
going
to
have
a
building
and
then,
if
they
don't
have
that
building
they'll
never
get
that
reimbursement.
So
the
dollars
amounts
that
come
in
to
the
city.
G
The
city
acts
purely
as
a
conduit
for
every
dollar
end
they'll,
reverse
$1
out
the
tip
will
expire
at
the
end
of
the
7
million
or
at
the
end
of
20
years,
whichever
one
comes
first,
so
if
they
do
absolutely
nothing
out,
there,
they'll
never
have
an
increment.
So
in
one
way
it's
a
little
bit
self-policing
by
mathematics,
but
they've
already
done
a
bunch
of
stuff
out.
G
There
will
be
a
partial
income
in
of
19,
probably
the
full
increment
will
come
in
and
20
payable,
21,
and
so
that's
the
unique
thing
about
a
TIF
is
when
you
start
it.
It's
like
burning
a
candle
from
both
ends
because
it
cannot
exceed
20
years
from
the
year
of
creation
if
it
never
reaches
that
7
million,
though
that's
not
the
city's
problem,
I.
D
G
The
projected
revenue
that
come
in
would
be
the
amount
that
would
then
go
back
to
the
company
to
reimburse
for
that
7
million
dollars.
That
does
come
in
on
a
per
annum
basis
on
a
per
annum,
and
if
my
projections
are
often
it's
only
200
or
if
it's
400
a
hundred
percent
goes
back.
So
it's
a
dollar
for
dollar,
with
no
interest.
B
H
G
There
will
also
be
a
document
called
the
developers
agreement
that
the
city
will
enter
into
that
will
have
some
conditions
in
that
as
well.
That
will
want
to
find
the
terms
in
more
of
a
contract
state
and
form
to
Chris
made
a
good
point,
I'm
thinking
of
for
maybe
look
confused
the
city's
not
giving
them
seven
million
they're
allowing
them
to
use
up
to
7
May.
So
there's
never
cash
expended
from
the
city
side.
G
G
D
G
G
Then
that's
where
the
the
city
or
focused
Watertown
will
look
at.
You
know
the
estimates
that
are
in
here.
What
was
the
final
product
that
comes
out?
Ultimately,
the
city
still
remains
in
the
driver's
seat,
because
when
that
money
comes
to
them
and
if
it's
not
per
the
developer
agreement,
then
the
city
can
withhold
that
money.
They
can
negotiate.
They
can
figure
out,
we'll
have
a
stipulation
in
there.
That
says
if
Tareq's
leaves,
how
do
we
want
to
explain
that
Matt?
K
D
Yeah
I
did
that,
but
I
mean
they're
sliding
it
into
the
most
by
open
category
right
I
mean
you
said
that
it's
number
eight
section
8
is
payments
and
grants
made
at
the
discretion
of
the
governing
body
which
are
found
to
be
necessary
or
convenient
to
the
creation
of
the
tax
incremental
districts.
The
implementation
of
project
plans
artist
and
develop
the
general
economic
welfare
and
prosperity
of
the
state
I.
G
Is
but
it
still
could
get
further
defined
into
the
agreement?
It's
it's
sort
of
interesting
because
we
have
to
meet
the
codified
law
and
revenue
with
the
TIF
plan,
but
then
we
really
get
into
the
contract
agreement
with
the
developers
agreement.
That's
that
that's
the
contract,
then
that
the
city
acts
more
as
the
police
enforcement
with
do.
D
G
Generally,
not
it's
it's
an
overview
of
the
plan
of
establishing
the
amount
that's
in
there,
because
if
I
wanted
to
come
back
and
amend
this
project
plan
it'd
be
very
difficult
to
amend
that
seven
million
dollars
because
then
I'd
have
to
recertify
the
base.
So
that's
where
it
it's
locked
in
with
Department
of
Revenue.
G
On
the
city's
audit
and
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
have
moved
my
tips
to
zero
percent
is
because
it
was
a
way
for
some
abuse
to
happen.
What
what
percent?
So,
if
I'm,
borrowing
at
four
percent
but
I,
have
a
tiff
at
seven,
then
I
get
a
funny
word
called
arbitrage
that
enters
into
the
deal.
I've
seen,
tips
that
never
been
able
to
you
know
make
any
principal
payments
all
been
on
a
crude
interest.
So
that's
where
I
think.
Another
solid
point
in
this
is
that
it
is
at
0%.
G
G
We've
evolved
enough
now
that
we
have,
you
know
192
on
the
books,
where
they're
being
monitored
every
year
and
for
the
purpose-
and
in
this
case
your
purpose
as
signed
off
by
top
Department
of
Revenue,
is
considered
economic
development,
which
I
think
we'd
all
agree.
This
is
a
great
wonderful
project.
Some
of
them
are
classified
as
other
and
so
you'll
see
in
this
TIF
plan
of
was
this
I
think
no,
we
classify
just
an
industrial,
economic
development
or
other.
If
it's
other,
then
it
poses
a
whole
different
set
of
projections
and
implications
on
taxes.
G
But
that's
not
the
case
with
here.
So
we
can
say,
the
school's
general
fund
has
held
harmless
by
Department
of
Revenue's
calculations
and
the
verbage
that
I
have
in
here
comes
from
Department
of
Revenue.
On
that
part,
so
long
answer
to
a
short
question:
yes,
they're
part
of
the
audit
I
can
tell
you.
Legislative
audit
is
even
talking
to
auditors
every
year
and
it
is
a
topic
of
discussion
and
there
is
more
examinations
on
them
now
than
there
ever
has
been
so.
F
G
I've,
probably
done
50,
60,
Tiff's
I,
don't
know
really
any
two
that
have
been
the
same
because
they
are
so
localized
and
so
specialized.
This
is
different
than
a
group.
Here.
I
was
just
down
there
this
week
for
the
one
there
and
they
need
to
be
unique
and
need
to
be
specialized,
because
it's
your
definition
of
economic
development,
of
what
it
takes
to
get
that
company
to
expand
here
in
town
because
you're
competing
against
49
other
states.
So
that's
where
the
state
has
allowed
it
to
be
flexible
from.
F
Your
perspective
of
working
on
50
to
60
of
these
is
there
anything
that
stands
out
to
you.
That
is
that
would
be
of
concern
that
the
Commissioner
should
definitely
be
aware
of
that
we're
making
a
decision
on
certain
items
that
you
know
you've
identified,
that
might
be
a
little
out
of
the
ordinary
that
are
not
kind
of
your
boilerplate.
You
know
TIF
type
of
items,
the.
G
Only
concern
I
would
have
with
this,
which
would
put
on
the
back
of
the
company
and
I've
expressed
to
them,
and
it's
not
so
much
of
a
city
issue
or
playing
zoning
is
what
does
that
building
come
in
and
assess
at?
How
do
you
assess
a
half
a
million
square
feet?
It's
a
very,
very
unique
building
that,
to
my
best
of
abilities,
working
with
Assessors
trying
to
find
comparables
around
the
state.
G
Talk
in
the
Department
of
Revenue
is
that
building
gonna
be
assessed
at
10
15
20,
30
million
I
from
what
I
can
pin
down
I
feel
somewhat
good
about
this
number,
but
assessments
assessment.
Now,
let's
say
the
building
comes
in
assessed
at
10
million
and
it
only
pays
a
hundred
thousand
and
in
taxes
as
a
reimbursement.
We've
designed
this
so
the
city's
never
liable,
and
that's
always
been
my
number
one
goal
with
any
TIF
that
I
work
on
is
never
to
put
the
city
in
harm's
way.
G
D
G
The
county
is
aware
of
it:
I
think
it
poses
a
good
question
for
them.
That's
requiring
some
more
research
and
methodology
to
that,
and
my
guess
is
they'll,
probably
maybe
reach
out
to
an
independent
Assessor
just
so
that
it
does
come
within
an
agreeable
number
that
that
can
be
backed
with
facts
where.
G
G
We
look
at
page
15.
This
really
shows
the
list
of
estimated
non-eligible
project
costs.
You
know
we're
looking
at
roughly
of
about
a
seventy
five.
Seventy
six
million
dollar
project
you
know
give
or
take
a
million
I,
never
thought
I'd
say
that,
but
some
of
these
items
I
could
have
put
in
the
TIF.
You
know
you
can
put
in
I'm
trying
to
think
there's
some
of
the
permitting
the
fees,
the
taxes
those
are
not
in
there.
That's
where
we
went
back
to
the
engineering
cost
to
look
at
it.
G
You
know
the
other
way
hi
to
you
back
back
in
222
million.
You
look
at
what
this
is.
You
say,
okay,
if
the
building
is
going
to
be
partial
assessment,
back
I
shouldn't,
say
partial
assessment,
but
when
you
look
at
from
that
side,
so
that
the
22
sort
of
had
a
well-rounded
approach,
I
think
of
how
to
arrive
at
that
still
the
best
guess
on
that
part,
the
other
part
going
in
here
we
look
at
page
18.
We
showed
where
the
the
project
costs
are
coming
related
to
the
seven
million.
G
Your
see-
and
you
know,
I-
think
we've
we've
gone
through
that
so
then
I'll
move
on
to
I.
Think
a
key
point
is
on
page
twenty,
where
we
say
the
city's
role
is
primary
to
act
as
a
conduit
for
the
revenue
and
pass
on
it.
We're
not
borrowing
we're
not
taking
on
that
liability
on
that
side
and
that's
that's
extremely
important
because
it
doesn't
hook
the
city's
moral
obligation
to
this
page.
21
was
the
projections.
You
can
see
that
there's
the
Watertown
the
county,
the
water
talent,
development,
water
district.
G
G
G
Page
25
just
shows
how
we
arrived
at
the
current
property
tax
rate.
As
you
know,
mill
levies
fluctuate
every
year.
If
that
mill
levy
goes
up,
they
pay
more.
If
that
mill
levy
goes
down,
they
pay
less.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
the
city
never
pays
anything
more
than
that
7
million,
with
no
interest
associated
with
it.
G
The
description
of
the
property
we
just
attached
there
in
terms
of
the
legal
description,
so
we
have
it
there.
We
show
the
map
on
page
27
of
what
it
looks
like
and
then
outlined
a
little
bit
more
on
page
28,
and
then
this
is
off
your
zoning
map,
as
well,
just
to
say
that
it
does
fit
within
the
zoning
requirements.
L
G
You
have
to
look
at
a
TIF
as
a,
but
for
would
you
have
got
that
extra
ten
thousand,
but
for
the
TIF,
and
so
in
this
case
I
think
the
answer
is
there
was
a
very
strong
chance
that
they
could
have
gone
elsewhere,
and
so
that
TIF
was
the
incentive
to
keep
them
here
in
town.
So,
to
answer
your
question,
the
money
that
was
paid
in
to
the
city,
what
will
happen
is
say
they
pay
ten
thousand
there's
ninety
five
hundred
of
increment
the
city
keeps
at
five
hundred
of
what's
considered
the
base.
H
M
G
Yeah,
yes,
and
no
in
economic
development,
it's
it's
always
gray
and
I,
don't
mean
to
say
that
to
be
smite
with
you
by
any
means.
This
was
a
project
that
had
happened
for
discussion
for
several
years.
Where
we're
now
coming
back
formalizing
the
agreement,
the
city,
councillor
and
focus
Watertown,
had
made
to
establish
the
boundaries
here
at
Planning
and
Zoning.
Then
the
developer
agreement
and
the
final
TIF
plan
gets
established
with
the
city.
Well,.
H
For
clarification,
so
is
it
true
that
the
dollar
amount
of
the
TIF
has
proved
by
council
correct,
correct
so
like
when
we
went
through
the
agreement
to
recruit
them?
We
said:
okay,
we'll
provide
TIF
up
to
seven
million,
so
I
guess
in
one
way
the
TIF
was
established
as
a
dollar
amount
back
during
the
agreement,
but
the
boundary
and
all
the
engineer
costs
that
went
into
it.
That's
what
we're
going
back
to
18
when
they
started,
and
then
we've
got
macguff
details
and
kind
of
reference.
H
What
Matt
said
I
mean
you've
got
some
visual
and
you've
got
some
paid
receipts
that
then
justify
so
I
guess
to
be
clear:
it's
not
like
they
said:
hey
we're,
gonna,
build
this
and
then
a
year
and
half
later
I
said
hey,
we
need
seven
million.
Tif
I
mean
the
TIF
was
in
like
one
of
the
very
first
documents
that
was
proposed
to
them
to
stay
in
Watertown.
We.
G
Had
to
quantify
the
expenses,
it's
one
thing
to
come
in
and
say:
hey
we're,
gonna
do
80
million
and
we
want
7
million
like
okay,
show
us
the
7
million,
and
so
we
spent
several
months
going
back
and
forth
with
the
engineers
with
the
company
to
get
to
this
point,
because
ultimately,
it
has
to
pass
codified
lob
but
has
to
pass
a
smell
test.
And-
and
that's
where
we
wanted
it
to
quantify
on
that
7
million.
L
H
Have
just
to
clarify
so
sometimes
like
if
you
go
a
pheasant
ridge,
TIFF,
let's
say
for
infrastructure.
That's
put
in
there.
Wasn't
any
project
specific
out
there.
More
than
likely
it's
probably
just
used
to
develop
the
park
where
this
has
a
specific
project
that
probably
change
it
up
a
little
bit
because
you
can
use
Tiff's,
just
a
bear,
develop
land
which
pheasant,
Ridge
and
original
Mallard
plane
was
done
for
and.
D
G
C
F
I
guess
I
would
say
that,
like
we
talked
about
almost
at
the
beginning
of
this
discussion,
that
the
timing
is
is
a
little
odd,
at
least
with
respect
to
what
we
normally
deal
with,
which
is
on
the
front
end,
and
then
you
know
the
plan,
the
plan
part
in
Planning
Commission.
You
know
we
make
a
plan
and
then
you
know
vote
on
it.
This
is
a
little
unusual
for
us
in
terms
of
kind
of
feeling
like
we're
coming
in
on.
You
know,
partway
on
it
so
was.
H
D
G
Yeah
I
think
there
was
some
mention
of
this
and
it's
not
meant
to
be
a
surprise,
but
I
can
understand
where
you're
at
and
the
last
thing
is
meant
to
be
and
I
hate
to
say
the
word
rubber
stamp.
It's
not
that
case,
even
though
it
may
give
that
appearance,
but
at
the
same
time
it's
it's
trying
to
bring
together
a
very
complex
transaction
and
a
formal
basis
to
get
it
certified
with
the
state.
F
C
F
F
I
know
you
have
a
lot
of
experience
in
these
types
of
things
and,
for
you
know,
your
position
I'm
sure
it's
in
your
best
interest
to
make
sure
that
you
know
cities
end
up,
you
know
getting
covered
and
promoting
economic
development
so
that
there's
no
hidden
agenda
I
believe
on
your
part
of
of
you
know.
What's
what's
in
these,
you
know
25
pages
of
documents.
You.
F
M
A
strange
question
so,
let's
just
say
we
have
another
industry
that
wants
to
use
the
TIF
and
I
assume
that's
what
your
program
is
all
about,
I
mean.
Is
there
any
I
guess
batch
that
are
you
know
any
negative
to
to
doing
that?
I
mean
we're,
giving
a
lot
of
tax
base
back
in
order
to
get
to
attract.
You
know
what
I'm
trying
to
say.
Is
there
any
negative
to
that?
So
the
next
business
that
wants
to
come.
H
F
G
Tips
are
very
wonderful,
but
yes,
you're
right,
they
have
to
be
very
careful
and
each
one
requires
a
lot
of
scrutiny
to
it.
As
I
said
some
some
cities
are
will
over
100
I
commend
you
for
the
numbers
that
you
have,
because
they
you
can
stand
up
and
peer.
The
legislature
and
say
they've
been
use
very
responsibly.
I
can
tell
you
your
tips
that
you
have
created
probably
had
a
base
value
of
less
than
a
million
and
through
the
through
the
time.
G
Let's
take
tip
one.
You
had
a
base
value,
meaning
nothing
was
there
of
$78,000
as
of
today.
The
current
increment
is
18
million
so,
but
for
that,
TIF
would.
If
you
want
to
put
that
infrastructure
in
which
is
our
biggest
impediment
to
development,
would
that
18
million
have
come
on
board?
Would
those
jobs
have
come
with
it?
It's
a
sort
of
a
philosophical
but
I
think
some
of
the
numbers
help
justify
the
but
for
side.
We're.
D
H
And
won't
exceed
7,
mil
I
would
look
at
as
a
Terrax
bet,
not
a
city
bet,
though,
because
if
they're
short,
they
don't
realize
their
whole
7
million
or
if
they
get
overtaxed.
If
the
assessment
comes
in
higher
they're
gonna
pay
that
7
million
I'll
sooner
and
then
hit
the
tax
roll
sooner
than
20
years.
So
it's
really
great.
H
But
I'll
go
back
just
a
really
quick,
so
Tiff's
are
offered
in
a
lot
of
incentive
packages.
Is
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
tools
in
South
Dakota?
So,
for
example,
let's
just
say
this
is
hypothetical
Oklahoma
says
here's
7
million
dollars
cash
come
on
down
and
then
we'll
still
do
tax
incentives.
On
top
of
that,
I
mean
we're
kind
of
hamstrung
on
will
offer
you
a
tax
incentive,
but
you
got
to
pay
for
it
and
the
worst
turnaround
give
it
to
you
back.
I
mean
that's
kinda.
G
The
maximum
generally,
my
projections
are
very
conservative
that
they'll
pay
off
between
fifteen
to
seventeen,
but
I
did
they.
They
can't
go
more
than
twenty
I
mean
my
track
record
for
doing
this,
for
the
last
fifteen
years
is
I
would
say
about.
Seventy
percent
of
them
have
paid
off
well
in
advance,
I,
don't.
G
M
G
The
building
is
still
there
and
here's
the
best
thing.
If,
if,
for
some
reason
say
the
company
goes
into
foreclosure,
you
know
what
always
gets
paid
taxes
they
always
do
so
like
an
Aberdeen
beef
plant
went
defunct,
the
TIF
holders
still
receive
their
payment.
The
way
we
have
this
design
is
if
something
goes
wrong
with
the
cup.
The
city
then
takes
over
that
development
agreement
and
they
hold
it.
They
then
by
law
can
still
hold
it
for
the
next
15
years,
because
the
expenditures
have
been
made.
G
That
TIF
can
then
turn
around
into
another
rien
cent
of
tool
to
get
that
building
filled
back
up.
So
that's
once
again
another
provision.
We
try
to
always
keep
the
city
and
the
driver's
seat
as
much
as
we
can,
because
I've
worked
on
those
where
the
company
goes
defunct.
Seven
years
later,
and
it's
not
what
it
was
intended
to
do.
So
we
then
put
that
provision
in.
C
G
Tif
impacts
the
tax
base.
You,
you
still
have
to
look
at
it,
as
would
it
impact
if
this
was
not
here
and
that's
the,
but
for
so
in
one
way
it's
foregoing
of
when
they
will
receive
that
this
would
not
be
something
they
would
receive
if
Tareq's
went
to
Iowa.
So
that's
the
but-for
test.
So
it's
not
that
you're
taken
away
from
the
county
or
you're
taken
away
from
the
school
district.
G
Now
this
is
not
necessarily-
and
this
is
interesting-
as
property
tax
I
know,
Rick
and
I
were
discussing
this
early.
The
state
holds
the
school's
general
fund
harmless.
So
what
they
do
is
the
amounts
that
are
in
a
TIF.
Statewide
are
actually
equalized,
so
I
in
pure
in
pain,
probably
and
I
figured
out
it's
it's
like
a
tenth
of
a
tenth
of
a
percent,
because
it's
equalized
statewide
and
how
the
state
general
fund
for
the
school
works
the
the
county.
N
F
N
Rick
hauling
the
school
district
business
manager,
I
think
were
told.
We
never
have
a
little
conversation
was
on
the
capital
outlay
side,
but
like
you'd
indicated,
if
it
wasn't
built,
I
wouldn't
receive
any
taxes
on
it
anyway,
but
I'm
with
you,
it's
kind
of
hard
to
say
a
building
of
that
nature
out
there
and
say
I'm
not
gonna
have
any
benefit
on
my
capital
Olly
levy
until
such
as
this
time,
but
I
guess
you
know
we're
definitely
not
here
to
oppose
it
by
any
means
we're
fully
in
support
of
the
issuance
of
the
tip,
because.
D
The
school
district
is
the
biggest
it
has.
The
biggest
impact
or
lack
of
right
I
mean
because
your
mill
rate
represents
like
66
percent
of
the
property
tax
mill
right,
so
I
mean
of
the
three
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
that's
two
hundred
fifty
grand
a
year
that
you
guys
aren't
getting
right,
I
mean
and
I'm,
not
a
math
ways
and
I'm,
not
a
tax
whiz.
N
N
We
could
answer
they're,
not
work,
we're
held
harmless
when
you
say
not
getting
it.
The
levies
you're
talking
about
our
general
fund
side,
special
ed
side,
capital
outlay
side,
so
all
those
tied
together.
So
our
largest
request
is
on
our
general
fund
side,
which
were
held
harmless
by
the
state.
I
also
believe
in
Toby
I
think
we're
held
harmless
on
our
special
ed
side
as
well.
So
the
only
issue
we
have
is
on
the
capital
outlay
side,
which
that
we
did
not.
G
Not
to
digress
further
on
that,
but
it'd
be
fair
to
say
the
one
of
the
most
important
things
to
schools.
Our
heart
beats
because
it's
per
student,
so
it's
just
bringing
jobs
as
it
bringing
families.
You
know
each
kid
with
the
capital
outlay.
Now
is
worth
about
8,500
bucks.
It
depends
on
how
you
look
at
it,
but
so,
if
you
bring
in
50
new
kids
that
becomes
more
of
a
win
file
as
a
whiffle
becomes
more
of
the
income
producer
for
the
school,
then
it
would
on
want
something
else.
D
Yeah
I
don't
want
anything
that
I
say
to
be
construed
as
anti
terror,
X
or
anti
Piaf,
or
anything
like
that.
I
just
had
a
lot
of
questions
and
I
think
this
is
a
really
big
deal
and
I
think
you
know
I'm
glad
that
they
are
building
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
done
right
and
correctly,
and
you
know,
and
that
we
acknowledge
that
it
is
a
subsidy
I
mean
the
Sanskrit
or
Supreme
Court
has
referred
to
it
as
a
subsidy.
It's
not
my
word
so
I
just.
B
F
F
B
F
B
So
this
is
a
discussion
that
we
had
at
the
previous
Planning
Commission
meeting
about
the
recreational
uses
and
how
we
have
that
in
our
ordinance,
and
so
the
direction
going
forward
was
to
include
the
recreational
use
definition
as
a
permitted
use
in
the
c-2
and
c-3
zone.
C2
is
local,
commercial
and
c3
is
highway
commercial.
So
that's
basically
saying
that
we
we
could
see
any
type
of
wellness
facility
going
in
those
types
of
districts.
Those
zoning
districts.
B
This
one,
it
wasn't
so
what
we're
gonna
do,
though,
is
we're
working
with
looking
at
the
ICC
and
making
sure
that
our
definitions
are
consistent.
So
we're
gonna,
look
at
it
between
public
and
private
facilities
and
then
go
through
all
of
the
zoning
districts
as
well
as
residential,
because
that
was
a
hot
topic
on
the
last
one
and
then
so
we'll
change
definitions
and
then
change
where
they're
allowed
in
in
our
zoning
district
completely.
B
The
reason
why
we're
going
forward
with
this
is
just
so
that
it's
allowable
I
mean
we
have
Planet
Fitness,
isn't
a
c3
zone.
This
isn't
this
isn't
driven
by
Planet
Fitness
by
any
means,
but
it's
just
one
of
those
things
that
if
we
think
it's
allowable
and
that's
the
definition
that
we
have
currently
that
will
move
forward
with
it.
That
way
and
then
come
back
in
a
timely
fashion
and
fix
everything
and.
A
B
E
That
would
come
before
this
board
and
that's
primarily
because
of
the
c2
and
c3
three
areas
at
the
lake
Stony
Point,
the
prop
lunker's
and
campus
collage
they're,
zoned,
c2
and
c3
and
I
think
if
this
type
of
facility
was
going
to
be
proposed
to
go
in
out
there
that
it
might
be
something
we
want
to
talk
about.
Rather
than
just
saying
it's
a
permitted
use.
A
That's
a
that's
a
good
point,
and-
and
that's
part
of
the
discussion
that
we're
having
here
today
and
in
the
previous
discussion
that
we
had
from
my
standpoint
on
it
when
I'm
looking
at
the
other
permitted
uses
in
these
zones,
I'm
looking
at
these
recreational
type
facilities
as
being
similar
in
nature
to
other
retail
establishments,
motor
vehicle
sales
clinics,
restaurants,
farm
machinery,
truck
sales
having
a
gym
type
facility
is,
is
not
that
much
different
than
many
of
the
other
commercial
activities
that
we've
got
going
on
as
permitted
uses.
From
my
perspective,
I.
N
E
E
O
Chair
just
to
help
add
to
the
discussion
from
Commissioner
Ford's
comments
and,
and
brandy
can
help
chime
in
on
this
as
well,
but
I
believe
one
of
our
long-range,
and
then
we
had
some
short-range
goals
here
with
the
Planning
Commission.
Well,
I
think
one
of
our
long-range
was
was
to
look
at
the
lake
zoning
districts
and
assess
them
from
from
the
perspective,
the
Commissioner
Ford
is
exactly
referring
to,
from
my
perspective,
from
a
staff
recommendation.
O
I
think
that
that
that
would
play
a
key
role
and
obviously
helping
address
some
of
these
concerns
and
I
would
look
to
maybe
utilize
that
that
function,
that
that
we're
looking
to
do
down
the
road
as
an
appropriate
means
to
address
these
kind
of
concerns.
I
do
want
to
reflect
the
fact
that
if
we
did
limit
this,
it
does
obviously
impact
all
the
zones
throughout
the
city
limits
which
is
obvious
to
you.
A
That's
an
excellent
point:
I
mean
these
being
our
primary
commercial
zones
right,
so
C
2
and
C
3
being
highway
commercial
district.
You
know.
The
point
you
raised
is:
is
that
really
an
appropriate
zone
for
the
lake
district
in
the
residential
zones
that
immediately
surround
it
right?
To
that
end,
we
do
need
to
look
at
the
the
lake
districts
as
kind
of
a
unique
animal
and
probably
come
up
with
a
solution,
that's
more
appropriate
for
the
lake.
A
B
E
D
As
written
in
the
interim
before
we
get
a
lake
district,
I
mean
I,
don't
necessarily
disagree,
but
I
think
that
the
other
commercial
areas
of
town
that
would
necessitate
us
to
do
a
lot
more
work
and
channeling
my
inner
Todd
Kay's.
The
whole
purpose
is
to
sort
of
streamline
this
process.
And,
additionally,
if
you
look
at
the
definition
of
recreational
use,
which
brandy
has
graciously
graciously
put
up,
it
says
a
place
designed
and
equipped
for
the
conduct
of
sports,
leisure
time
activities
and
other
customary
and
usual
recreational
activities,
including
active
and
sedentary
activities.
B
Conditional
in
some
districts
so
but
right
now,
actually
you're
right
in
any
of
our
zoning
districts.
Currently
there's
nowhere
that
it's
just
permitted,
it
always
has
to
be
conditional.
Oh
the
other
point
that
I
wanted
to
make
with.
That
is
that
so,
when
we
bring
that
forward
and
have
our
new
definitions,
we'll
also
have
specific
design
standards,
performance
standards,
and
so
then,
if
it
is
permitted,
it
has
to
meet
those
certain
requirements
if
it's
a
residential
zone
or
a
commercial.
B
So
that's
where
we
want
to
try
to
get
get
this
where
the
Planning
Commission
is
comfortable
with
what
those
performance
standards
are
and
if
they're
meeting
all
of
them,
and
that's
with
like
a
lot
of
the
discussions
that
we've
had
on
different
zoning
issues,
is
that
if
we
can
get
to
that
point,
then
it
doesn't
have
to
come
to
you
guys
for
a
hearing.
As
often.
F
Be
progress
if
if
we
made
it
conditional
because
it
is
going
in
the
right
direction
but
not
make
it
permitted,
because
it's
kind
of
hard
to
go
backwards
once
you've,
you
know
once
you've
established,
you
know:
C
C,
2,
C
3
as
a
permitted
location
is
permitted.
You
know
whether
it
be
linked
or
not.
Is
it
something
to
be
hard
to
go
back
and
and
not
what.
F
F
E
F
I
was
I
was
speaking
with
respect
to
the
direction
we
have
talked
about
going
with
the
lake
with
regard
to
the
unique
circumstances
out
there,
everything
from
Harwin
to
you
know
all
the
other
things
that
we've
talked
about
at
the
Board
of
adjustments
and
other
places.
That
was
my.
That
was
my
only
thing.
You'd.
L
Be
better
off
because
I
I
saluted
within
this
thing
and
Ted
of
penalizing
everybody
within
this
district,
Planet
Fitness
right
now,
I
perceived
it
to
be
a
retail
service
establishment!
That's
why
I
went
there.
It's
like
a
bowling!
Now,
that's
a
recreational
area,
but
if
we
don't
allow
those
things
to
go
within
there,
you're
gonna
throw
another
six
eight
ten
twelve
weeks
and
their
time
I'm
trying
to
get
in
and
set
up
and
do
business
no
Watertown
and
that's
a
difference.
L
F
E
B
To
be
progressive
in
the
interim
time,
though,
because
we
don't
right
now
at
some
point,
the
lake
was
zoned
with
the
same
zoning
districts
that
we
have
in
town
and
so
right
now
the
r1l
district
does
not
exist,
so
we
need
to
move
forward
like
it
is
currently
and
and
then
we'll
get
there
eventually
so,
but
think
about
it,
as
just
as
the
districts
as
a
whole.
The
lake
and
the
city
proper
are
the
same
thing.
If.
A
If
this
is
a
sticking
point,
though,
on
the
lake
and
again
I,
don't
I
don't
want
to
hold
up
development
of
these
primary
districts.
For
the
rest
of
you
know,
ninety-eight
percent
of
the
town
here
can
we
reflect
in
our
recommendation
here,
Brandi
to
include
language
in
in
the
ordinance
as
proposed,
but
to
include
a
restriction
on
commercial
zone
property
at
the
lake
so
that
it
would
not
adversely
affect
the
the
other
areas,
but.
D
Based
on
the
definition
that
we
have
for
recreational
use
and
based
on
the
things
that
otherwise
fall
into
conditional
use
categories,
it
doesn't
they
just
don't
seem
like
they're
like
categories
I
mean
I,
understand
the
reservation
at
the
lake.
But
if
you
look
at
it,
there's
really
there's
three
commercial
for
commercial
properties
on
the
lake.
There's
no
real
risk
of
that
of
any
of
those
developing
into
real
recreational
issues
with
one
or
two
exceptions
and
I
mean
I,
don't
know.
E
O
That's
what
happens
yes,
sir,
if
I
made
to
address
your
question
a
moment
ago,
I
would
almost
and
I
know
Matt's,
not
in
here
at
the
time
we're
almost
defer
to
him
from
a
legal
perspective,
I'm,
not
certain
that
we
can
exempt
certain
zones
from
this
use.
If
it's
under
that
listed
approved,
uses
certain
segments
of
that
zone,
I
should
say
I.
A
Was
just
curious
from
a
matter
of
procedure
and
and
and
and
whatnot
I,
don't
advocate
doing
that,
because
I
agree
with
Liam
that
personally
I
have
no
problem
with
recreational
use
and
I
see
it
seems
like
it
would.
It
certainly
applies
to
to
commercial
zones
in
general,
but
I
don't
see
an
issue
with
the
lake
zones
either.
Given
that
we
have,
you
know
sports
and
leisure
time
activities
taking
place
out
there.
B
Wouldn't
you
rather
have
a
gym
than
a
restaurant
and
bar
you
know
cuz
any
of
those
types
of
uses
that
are
permitted
are
allowed
there
currently
another
another
point
to
I
mean
this.
This
is
what
we
discussed
last
meeting,
and
that
was
the
the
direction
that
we
landed
on
is
that
we
were
okay
with
it
being
in
the
C
2
and
the
C
3
zones.
F
E
E
That's
why
I
talked
about
a
bridge
Brandee,
so
that
wouldn't
happen
a
bridge
between
what
we
have
now
and
what
we
hope
to
achieve
in
the
future,
to
protect
certainly
three
or
four
small
properties
and
their
neighbors
and
the
the
adjacent
properties
and
the
the
compatibility
of
those
properties
with
a
potential
planet.
Fitness
well
well,
not
putting
a
moratorium
on
something
a
baby
step,
still
allowing
it,
as
as
the
Board
approved
it
as
if,
as
all
of
these,
the
carwash
the
service
station,
the
bar
tavern,
that
it
would
fall
into
that
kind
of
a
category.
E
B
O
Mr.
chair
I
did
confirm
with
Matt,
and
the
splitting
of
that
permitted
use
out
with
exception
to
a
certain
component
of
that
district
wouldn't
be
advisable
from
a
legal
perspective
there,
like
you,
only
chime
in
on
that
Matt
as
well,
but
I
do
appreciate.
This
is
very
good
discussion
that
Commissioner,
for
it
brings
up
some
very
good
talking
points
in
relation
to
this
use
and
just
my
experience
in
other
communities.
O
This
particular
use
has
become
issue
being
adjacent
to
certain
other
businesses
and
functions
within
that
same
zoning
district,
so
I
I,
don't
discredit,
Commissioner
Forbes
comments
at
all,
and
brandy
and
I,
as
staff
will
definitely
move
forward
in
the
in
a
manner
that
the
Commission
decides
is
the
whole
here,
so
very
good
discussion.
Half
thank.
A
F
Well,
I'm,
just
gonna,
read
or
I
said:
I
totally
get
what
Diana
say
and
I
can
agree
with
many
respects
and
I
hope
we
can
move
forward
with
a
defined
lake
so
nning
to
address
some
of
these
concerns
that
crop
up
fairly
frequently
in
this
case
I
think
on
balance,
it
probably
makes
the
most
sense
for
the
most
people
in
most
applications
to
permit
the
use
recreational
use
in
C,
C,
2
and
C
3.
My
opinion.
A
The
way
I'm
looking
at
it
too,
is
really
to
to
weigh
it
against
the
other
permitted
uses
in
the
district
and
in
the
case
of
the
recreational
use,
type
facilities.
I
just
don't
see
the
same
kind
of
risks
associated
to
some
of
the
other
conditional
uses.
That
would
would
force
us
or
to
necessitate
us
to
take
an
additional
look
at
it.
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
that
it's
drastically
different
to
other
permitted
uses
already
allowed
in
the
in
the
district
and
and
that's
my
stance
on
allowing
it
to
be
a
permitted
use
versus
conditional
use.
M
C
B
F
B
D
B
D
B
A
B
So
this
is
a
rezone
in
this.
The
area
that
we're
talking
about
is
the
grant
school
area,
the
half
a
block
there.
So
currently
it
is
zoned
r2a,
which
is
single-family
attached
residential
and
the
developer
is
looking
to
rezone
to
r1
C,
which
is
exciting,
because
this
is
the
first
time
that
our
new
district
is
being
utilized.
So
what
he's
hoping
to
do?
B
That
is
with
so
then
what
happened
here
with
this
property.
Now
they
did
a
little
land
swap
because
these
I'll
turn
on
the
platted.
These
Lots
were
49
feet
instead
of
50
and
for
the
r1c
or
know
they
were
48
feet
instead
of
50.
So
for
since
he's
going
to
be
replanting-
and
that
is
something
also
that
we're
requiring
that
needs
to
happen,
because
otherwise
we
would
be
creating
a
nonconformity
on
this
north
loud
because
it
doesn't
meet
the
frontage
requirement.
B
O
B
Yep-
and
that
is
thanks
for
reminding
me
there-
that
is
the
what
I
made
the
amendment
to
the
agenda:
you'll
notice
on
the
one
that
it
was
included
in
your
packet.
We
want
to
make
sure
it
was
specific
to
state
that
the
corresponding
plat
shall
be
submitted
to
staff
to
be
recorded
upon
effective
date
of
council
resolution
approving
said
rezone.
So
we
will.
B
B
And
so
what?
What?
When
we're
doing?
At
the
reason,
these
Lots
are
meeting
all
of
the
requirements
for
the
district
and
then
when
they
come
for
the
building
permit,
then
Ken
will
make
sure
that
they're
conforming
with
setbacks
and
everything
and
they
have
done
different
layouts
and
they
are
able
to
make
that
and
the
reason
why
they
had
to
go
with
the
duplex
he
wanted
to
do
for
single-family
homes.
The
reason
for
the
duplex
is
because
he
wasn't
able
to
make
his
setback
requirements
because
he
has
double
fronted
double
frontage
there.
B
B
A
B
A
B
A
I
I
A
L
A
Think
this
is
an
interesting
opportunity
for
us
to
to
try
out
this
zoning
district.
Like
I
said
you
know,
I'm
a
neighbor
to
the
north
as
well,
and
this
this
lot
is
set
undeveloped
and
underdeveloped
for
quite
some
time.
I
think
it'll
do
a
lot
for
it
for
the
neighborhood
to
get
some
new
homes
in
there
and
help
improve
things
a
little
bit
that
we
interesting
to
see
what
they,
what
they
put
up
there
but
I'm
excited
to
see
the
project
move
forward.
B
F
F
B
A
B
C
A
B
B
A
F
B
And
he
is
the
applicant,
so
he
has
property
along
that
route
and
is
potentially
looking
at
utilizing
the
specific
office
use
and
that
does
require
that
it
be
on
a
collector
route
and
when
we
looked
at
it
we
were
surprised
that
it
was
not
designated
as
that.
So
we
then,
as
per
the
process,
then
he
applied
for
the
amendment
to.
P
And-
and
it
may
be
a
situation
where
you
could
just
quit-
my
name
is
Andy
Mahone
I'm
the
applicant
on
this,
and
it
just
happened
to
be
through
our
discussions
on
that
lot,
that
this
came
up
and
looking
at
that
road,
we
it
looked
to
be
to
meet
all
our
criteria.
It
just
hadn't
been
labeled
as
such
and
I,
and
it's
possible
that
this
goes
through
improbable
in
the
spirit
of
full
disclosure
that
I'll
be
back
in
a
month.
Asking
you
to
turn
your
hat
around.
O
Yeah,
that's
great
question,
mr.
chairman,
in
review
of
this,
this
functional
classification
for
this
roadway.
We
don't
see
any
concerns
or
non-conformities
that
would
come
to
light
in
relation
to
the
existing
infrastructure
or
the
existing
street
intersections
that
are
out
there
and
and
it
would
meet
meet
all
the
criteria
that
are
generally
described
for
this
functional
classification
and,
of
course,
subsequent
development.
Adjacent
to
this
stretch
of
roadway.
We
would
ensure
that
the
roadways
continue
to
be
built
out
to
meet
these
same
criteria
as
well.
A
A
Thank
this
is
one
we've
been
talking
about
for
a
while
on
needing
to
kind
of
fix
the
the
major
street
plan
in
this
area,
since
18
paths
has
functioned
as
as
that
collector
route
and-
and
we
know
that
we're
gonna
have
limitations
to
the
north.
There
so
I
think
it's
it's
natural
that
we'll
make
the
adjustment
it
seems
like
we
got
a
use
case
now
for
for
doing
it
a.