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B
C
A
Right,
thank
you.
First
thing,
I'd
like
to
do
is
make
a
note
that
there
will
be
an
opportunity
for
open
public
comment
for
any
item.
That's
not
on
the
agenda,
so
you
would
like
to
speak
later
in
the
meeting.
Please
see
Joe
she'll
get
you
signed
up
first
order.
Business,
then,
would
be
the
approval
of
the
December
5th
2019
minutes.
A
C
The
owner
applicant
is
Robert
and
Pamela
Drake
the
property
address
it
has
none
as
of
yet
it
will
be
determined
on
issuing
permits,
but
it
has
access
onto
Highway
20,
highway,
139,
slash,
North,
Lake
Drive
or
for
50th
Avenue.
Those
are
potential
access
points.
This
is
a
conditional
use
request.
Staff
finds
that
the
campground
is
a
listed
conditional
use
for
the
C
3
highway
commercial
district
for
2803
8.
C
The
definition
of
campground
is
a
plot
of
ground
for
public
use,
upon
which
two
or
more
campsites
are
located,
established,
maintained
advertised
or
held
out
to
the
public
to
be
a
place
where
camping
units
may
be
located
and
occupied
as
temporary
living
quarters.
Campgrounds
for
10
trailers
and
recreational
vehicles
should
be
cited
with
consideration
for
access
to
the
property.
The
campground
should
be
designed
to
minimize
the
impact
from
adjacent
adjacent
major
thoroughfares.
C
Signage
and
exterior
lighting
were
not
addressed
in
the
letter
or
plan
chapter
twenty
one,
sixty
three
off
street
parking
and
loading
requirements
and
engineering
design
standards.
The
submitted
plan
does
not
define
off
street
parking
spaces
for
passenger
automobiles.
However,
it
just
shows
space
spaces
for
the
RVs,
but
there
is
sufficient
area
for
all
kinds
of
parking
there.
So
that
shouldn't
be
a
problem.
C
Twenty
one
sixty
five
outside
storage
and
display
requirements
for
specific
uses,
the
submitted
documents
do
not
indicate
plans
for
outside
storage
or
displays,
but
in
the
see-through
zone,
outside
storage
may
be
permitted
if
acceptable,
screening
is
provided
and
approved
by
the
building
official
merchandise,
which
is
offered
for
sale,
rental
or
lease
may
be
displayed
beyond
the
confines
of
a
building
chapter:
twenty
one.
Seventy
three
landscape
and
lighting
standards,
a
minimum
one
hundred
and
twenty
two
trees
are
required
on
the
property
for
the
submitted
site
plan
and
and
survey.
C
C
So
then
we
move
on
to
the
fact
that
the
applicant
is
not
seeking
variances
at
this
time
from
anything,
and
that
would
includes
sidewalk
trail,
curb
gutter,
which
is
not
shown
on
the
plans
but
they're,
not
seeking
any
kind
of
variance
and
all
outside
dumpsters
or
other
garbage.
Receptacles
I
will
remind
you
must
be
screened
by
an
opaque
fence
or
wall
title
24
subdivision
of
land,
both
annexation
and
zoning
petitions
were
approved
by
City
Council
and
became
effective
on
January
11th
of
2020.
C
So
this
board
must
consider
if
satisfactory
provision
and
arrangement
has
been
made
concerning
21:02
o22
v7
A
through
H
in
chapter
21
76.
If
application
is
endorsed,
conditions
of
approval
must
be
specified,
as
compliant
administrative
permits
may
be
issued
without
return
to
this
board,
and
just
of
note
I
did
have
one
person
contact
me
in
opposition
of
the
plan
did.
A
C
A
I
think,
as
everybody
remembers,
this
item
was
on
the
agenda
a
few
weeks
ago
and
we
got
into
a
lengthy
discussion
and
many
many
people
came
up
and
spoke
pro
and
con,
and
so
I
I
think
we
have
a
pretty
good
idea
of
what
we're
dealing
with
here
since
that
time,
Joe
is.
Have
you
received
any
new
information
that
would,
you
know,
be
relevant
to
the
board
here
as
far
as
what
we
should
know
has
changed
its
the
last
time
we
had
had
had
this.
Had
this
issue
in
front
of
us
as.
C
Far
as
complaints
I've
only
talked
to
that
one
person,
but
I
will
recommend
that
mikelaurence
just
kind
of
update
you.
We
did
receive
this
plan.
That
is
a
little
more
detailed
and
it
shows
things
like
showers
and
toilets
potential
ingress
egress,
the
treed
area,
which
is
a
buffer,
and
they
did
talk
to
do
tea
also
and
do
tea
was
reluctant
to
give
it
any
access
without
a
more
concrete
plan.
E
Mr.
chair
I
would
add
to
that
I
believe
that
the
last
time
this
was
considered
that
was
prior
to
this
piece
of
property
becoming
a
annexed
and
zoned
I,
think
there
was
a
we're
gonna
get
there
that
can
conditionally
use
first.
So
since
then,
as
a
formality
that
has
occurred,
the
properties
been
annexed
and
zone
and.
H
Yeah.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
Mr.
Caze.
No,
this
this
would
not
be
a
situation
where
that
kerbin
got
a
regulation
would
be
administered
that
is
strictly
relating
to
the
public
streets
and
any
building
permits.
We
would
issue
on
lots
a
Jason
tools,
public
streets.
We
require
that
curb
and
gutter
to
be
installed
so
that
we
know
the
elevation
of
that
structure.
That's
getting
built
meets
the
minimum
height
requirements
above
the
curve.
Would.
H
F
H
I
Yeah
because
right
now,
I'll
add
that
on
that
Street
that
north
and
south
street,
what
is
that?
What
number
is
that
on
the
west
side?
So
that's
a
rural
section
right
now,
so
we
wouldn't
have
sidewalk
requirements
and
that
entire
right
away
hasn't
been
plotted
or
dedicated
to
the
city
at
this
time
and
North
Lake
Drive.
When
we
work
with
the
planning
process,
the
North
Lake
Drive
has
already
been
dedicated
to
so
we
won't
have
to
dedicate
any
right
of
way
when
we
plat
this
property.
A
Any
other
questions
for
Jill
Jill
do
have
anything
else.
Okay,
I'd,
like
to
open
up
to
the
public
hearing
and
again
I
would
just
remind
that.
We've
covered
a
lot
of
this
before
and
not
a
deference
to
in
respect
of
everyone's
time.
I
guess
what
I
liked
is
the
proponent
to
come
up.
First
and
yep
certainly
provide
a
wide
degree
of
latitude
for
the
time
and
then
the
main
opponent,
the
speaking
voice
of
the
opponent,
if
there
are
any
I,
would
certainly
allow
them
a
fair
degree
of
latitude
for
time.
A
J
Lawrence
I
represent
Pamela
Drake,
since
last
time
you
had
mentioned
you
know,
if
it
has
anything
changed,
has
anything
we
me
and
Bob
kind
of
got
together
and
we
we
spoke
about
having
a
campground
liaison
somebody
there
there
that
will
call
the
police
if
something
gets
out
of
hand
as
a
business
owner
and
as
a
property
owner
that
rents
and
both
of
Harry's
and
my
apartments.
It's
our
policy
that
we
don't
get
involved.
We
call
the
law
enforcement.
J
We
have
rules
and
regulations
in
this
community
that
these
people
are
going
to
have
to
follow
as
well.
I
wouldn't
want
somebody
to
go
out
there
with
a
group
of
people
if
they're,
drunk
and
rowdy
I
wouldn't
send
myself
I,
wouldn't
send
anyone
who's
not
trained
out
there
to
do
that.
I
would
call
the
police
and
the
police
would
take
care
of
it
at
that
time.
So
that's
one
thing
that
we
are
willing
to
do.
J
We
do
ask
that,
as
you
know
it's
over
over
ten
camp
for
campers,
you
know
where
will
will
designate
one
of
those
campers
to
hey
you're
the
person
we
also
Emily
bullets
who
lives
across
the
street.
There
she's
worked
with
the
GF
MP.
We
were
working
on
a
deal
with
her
as
well,
where
we
can
maybe
give
her
some
some
of
the
you
know
a
percentage
of
whatever
comes
in
for
the
campground,
so
she
can
keep
an
eye
on
it
again.
We're
not
going
to
have
somebody
that'll
go
out
there
and
stop
something
from
happening.
J
G
J
That's
how
we're
going
to
look
forward
at
that
at
that?
That's
the
same
thing
they
do
in
City
Park.
They
have
something
they
have
a
teenager
there,
that
has
a
radio
I
talked
to
kirk
Ellis,
and
he
told
me
that
they
have
a
they
have
a
high
school
student
that
has
a
radio.
It
goes
straight
to
dispatch.
If
there's
an
issue,
he
calls
the
police.
As
far
as
the
plan
itself,
these
these
campground
or
these
camping
spots
are
three
thousand
square
feet.
That's
fifty
percent,
above
and
beyond
your
minimum,
we
also
looked
at.
J
This
you
can
kind
of
get
the
gist
from
there,
but
so
what
I
did
is
I
took
the
area
around
City
Park,
and
we
use
that
GIS
mapping
to
to
figure
out
the
density
of
this
city-owned
camping
spots.
Then
we
divided
out
first
spots
per
acre.
This
this
sizes
is
a
lot
larger.
As
far
as
this
acreage
is,
you
know,
it's
16.5,
verse,
eleven
point,
two
acres
that
we
came
up
with,
but
the
density
is
very
similar
to
these.
J
The
city
owned
campground,
so
I
mean
one
of
the
issues
that
somebody
had
had
brought
up
to
me
is
that
this
seems
like
there's
a
lot
there.
You
know,
and
even
even
with
our
business
model,
which
you
know
it
isn't
it
can
change.
You
guys
have
to
look
at
this
as
a
campground
in
general
I'm,
not
as
a
business
model,
but
we
anticipate
some
of
these
campsites
being
rented
by
one
person,
renting
one
or
two
or
more
campsites
or
having
control
of
so
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
I
did.
J
Bonni
Bonni
I
talked
to
Bonnie
and
she
told
me
to
look
at
a
campground
up
by
Big
Stone,
so
I
did
print
this
off,
which
is
kind
of
a
similar
layout
of
campsites.
You
know
that
we
we
feel
like
we
want
to
build
something.
That's
going
to
be
positive
for
the
community
and
we're
going
to
be
putting
in
quite
a
bit
of
interest
structure
into
this
thing.
I
mean
it's
we're.
Plan
right
now
is
for
each
each
spot
to
have
sewer
and
water
and
electrical
on-site,
so
they
can
hook
up
it's
a
permanent
campsite.
J
I
would
I
would
I
would
touch
on
that
as
much
as
I
can
I
talked
to
the
d-o-t
and
then
control
two
out
of
the
three
roads
that
go
on
the
side
of
that
they
could
they
control
450th
as
well.
So
they
would
not.
Let
me
they
would
not
tell
me
until
I
had
a
complete
site
plan.
The
email
even
says
that
you
might
find
this
to
be
the
chicken
chicken
before
the
egg,
we're
willing
to
work
with
ingress
and
egress.
J
A
Speaking
of
that
of
the
concerns
that
were
raised
by
many
of
the
local
residents,
the
the
first
time
we
were
here,
I
know
that
the
the
noise
complaints-
and
you
know
the
rowdiness
and
other
issues
with
regarding
control.
You
know
crowd
control,
I
guess,
for
lack
of
a
better
word,
were
kind
of
a
repetitive
theme
and
the
camp
ground
liaison
and
I
think
you
know
work
toward
that.
Are
there
any
other
concerns
that
were
brought
up
previously,
that
you
have
dealt
and
discuss
with
some
of
the?
J
Know
it
got
to
a
point
where
it
was
I,
don't
think
there
was
gonna,
be
a
win.
You
know
we
we
have.
If
you
look
at
what
we've
done,
we've
put
it
behind
the
buffer
as
much
as
we
can
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
just
don't
want
a
campground
their
period.
You
know
and
that
that
comes
into
property
rights,
and
we
don't
have
to
go
down
that
road,
but
we're
trying
to
develop
something
that
hasn't
been
developed
in
this
community.
You.
D
J
J
If
you
think
those
need
to
be
changed,
if
you
think
there's
new
issues
that
are
going
to
be
your
eyes
change
that
ordinance,
you
have
the
power
to
do
that,
but
you
can't
ask
Walmart
to
do
something
that
target
doesn't
have
to,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
want.
You
know
to
portray.
We
can
do
other
things
with
this
land.
There
are
other
plans
for
this
land.
There's
a
list
of
c3
uses
that
are
currently
acceptable
on
this
property.
I
think
that
this
is
a
good
use
of
this
land.
J
J
J
F
J
F
F
F
J
F
J
G
B
B
K
B
A
A
J
On
the
environment,
this
is
going.
We
are
hoping
you
know.
Obviously
we
have
to
get
an
engineer
but
we're
hoping
to
leave
the
land
as
as
natural
as
we
can.
No,
not
as
not
filling
in
other
options.
We
have
to
bring
it
out
of
the
floodplain.
You
know,
there's
people
that
have
came
in
and
told
me.
Well,
you
can't
fill
that
land
you
can.
You
can
fill
that
land?
You
just
have
to
do
it
correctly.
J
You
just
can't
go
in
there
and
start
dumping
fill,
but
you
you
can
fill
the
land
and
you
can
build
on
the
land.
I
believe
that
this
campground
is
more
conducive
to
the
to
the
neighborhood
and
I.
Think
it's
more
conducive
to
the
lake
and
I
think
it's
an
addition
to
the
city
that,
if
we
pass
up,
is
going
to
set
a
good
tone
on
what
we
want
to
do
out
there.
G
J
K
J
Know
so
I
mean
we're.
We
can't
we
can't
pop
them
up
that
far,
but
it
is.
We
aren't
anticipating
putting
anything
there.
Currently,
that's
not
saying
in
the
future
that
we
wouldn't,
but
yes,
there
were
our
current
plan
on
that
is
so
we're
gonna,
add
quite
a
few
trees
around
this
area.
Good.
We
want
something
nice.
J
A
A
Right
saying:
none
is
there
anyone
that
would
like
to
speak
in
opposition
of
this
conditional
permit
and
and
I
guess
I
would
I
would
just
I
would
just
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
designated,
you
know
voice
among
the
opponents,
but
if
there's
one
main
person
that
you
know
can
again
kind
of
encapsulate
the
the
main
points
that
would
that
would
help
things
you
know
move
forward.
So
anyone
want
to
take
that
role
come
on
up.
L
L
Confuse
I
did
not
want
to
stand
up
and
represent
the
group
that
is
with
us
this
evening.
I
just
wanted
to
voice
own.
My
own
concerns
I
go
ahead
when
a
campground
is
being
put
together
like
this.
Is
there
a
set
occupancy
that
you
assume
each
vehicle
would
have
when
you're
figuring
out
a
maximum
capacity.
D
L
F
My
understanding
is
that
the
regulations
don't
specify
the
number
of
individuals
per
camper.
We
have
regulations
in
the
ortus
that
talks
about
the
number
of
unrelated
adults
per
residents
or
per
household
in
a
residential
zone.
But
to
my
knowledge,
we
don't
have
any
specific
regulations
that
that
tie
the
number
of
campers
in
a
camp
camper
to
be
located.
F
L
I
C
Yeah
chip,
the
fire
marshal,
did
contact
us
he's
at
training
right
now
or
he'd
be
here,
but
he
did
contact
us
by
email
and
send
us
a
concern
that
he
didn't
necessarily
think
needs
to
be
addressed
by
the
Board
of
Adjustment.
But,
for
instance,
he
would
like
to
see
the
restroom
shelters
be
also
storm,
shelters
and
built
to
that
type
of
code.
So
to
speak.
H
H
So
when
we
get
the
final
formalized
site,
plans
submitted
that
design
review
team
sits
down
as
a
collective
group
and
we
hashed
through
any
specific
details
that
any
one
of
our
city
departments
would
administer
so
I
myself,
as
the
city
engineer,
would
be
looking
at
the
final
access
design.
The
fire
marshal
and
police
chief
would
talk
about
any
safety,
public
safety
components
and
concerns
that
they
might
have
so
on
and
so
forth.
The
wastewater
division
of
Public
Works
would
talk
about
sanitary
sewer
components,
and
then
we
give
a
litany
of
questions.
L
H
F
Is
Jerry
just
quickly
also
addressing
your
question
at
the
last
public
hearing,
I
did
specifically
I
believe
ask
mr.
chip
to
I
asked
him
about
separation
distances
between
the
trailers,
and
he
said
there
was
no.
He
had
no
issues
or
separation
distance
between
outdoor
propane
tanks
and
he
didn't
think
that
there
was
going
to
be
any
issue
with
that.
Mr.
previs,
not
mr.
chip.
L
L
B
A
L
K
Right,
Leland,
Sutton,
420,
North,
Lake
Drive.
If
you
could
just
go
back
to
the
map
of
the
yes,
please
and
scroll
down
a
little
bit,
they
keep
talking
about
buffer
zones
between
houses
and
the
campground.
I
live
the
first
house
east
of
campus
collage
that
road
the
exits
and
enters
the
campground
is
going
to
be
directly
across
from
our
garage.
So
every
time
we
come
out
of
the
garage
back
out,
we're
gonna
have
to
watch
another
direction.
Where
is
our
buffer
zone?
I?
A
K
Every
every
design
I've
seen
it
has
it
right
there
and
it
makes
sense
cuz
that's
kind
of
the
high
ground
and
it
goes
right
close
to
Doris's
easy
access,
but
it
also
right
in
front
of
our
place.
So
it's
not.
It
just
makes
us
a
little
uncomfortable
that
that
potentially
could
be
a
problem
for
us
right.
A
A
M
Bret
Wilkie
440,
North,
Lake,
Drive
and
Mark,
and
you
mentioned
not
to
bring
up
or
beat
a
dead
horse,
but
it's
kind
of
hard
to
comment
when
you
get
the
cart.
You
know
before
the
horse
on
what
even
comment
about,
but
a
couple
of
issues,
I
guess,
I
have
city
park
keeps
getting
brought
up
we
camp
for
years
and
years
there
or
not,
very
long
I.
Guess
we
moved
on
because
of
the
issues
there.
M
Safety
issue,
kids
crossing
the
streets
there,
it's
a
problem
at
the
golf
course
with
the
traffic.
What
are
we
going
to
have
I
mean
these
are
just
issues
you
know.
Have
we
looked
at
one
of
the
things
that
pulled
us
out
of
City
Park
with
the
late
night
parties
campers
pulling
in
doubling
up
on
one
pad
to
answer
your
question?
M
Trespassing.
Where
are
these
kids
going
to
go
to
get
to
the
lake?
You
don't
go
camping
tonight
in
colossal
ache,
I'm,
sorry,
I,
guess
those
are
just
issues
that
you
know
not
against
it,
but
those
are
issues
that
need
to
be
thought
out
because
I
keep
hearing,
City
Park,
but
also
from
experience
camp
there
and
I
know
the
issues
they
have
do
have.
So
that's
just
you
know
my
comments.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
N
Crowley
Gaither
370
North
Lake
Drive.
Thank
you
more
just
I
guess
my
concern
is
it's
gonna
be
built,
so
I
just
need
to
know
how
that's
going
to
affect
me
so
I'm
just
bringing
these
things
up
to
your
attention,
so
you
guys
can
look
into
them.
I,
don't
know
if
there's
Borden
ins
for
these
things
or
not
I'm,
not
clear
like
the
months
of
operation
of
this
campground.
Is
this
like
just
a
May
1st
September
30th
like
all
the
others,
is
that
it
or.
A
N
I
N
N
Just
one
of
those
things
that
I
think,
as
you
know,
residents
nearby,
we
would
worry
about
less
if
it's
maybe
more
seasonal
and
it's
not
a
year-round
campground.
So
that's
just
one
question
I
had
I
know
from
previous
meetings.
I
was
here
before
there
was
some
conversation
about
fencing.
Is
there
any
fencing?
Do
we
know.
A
N
Just
was
I
was
just
looking
at
the
total
count
of
those
spaces
like
when
we
look
at
all
those
other
parks
that
are
in
the
Watertown
area.
Sandy
shores,
Stokes,
Thomasson,
Memorial
I'm,
just
trying
to
figure
out.
Is
there
like
a
acre
per
number
of
paths
relationship
because
right
now,
this
is
the
largest
of
everything
so
terms
of
number
of
paths.
It's
111
paths.
F
And
the
requirement
only
addresses
the
size
of
the
campsite
of
being
2,000.
The
applicant
has
stated
that
their
campsites
are
gonna,
be
3,000.
The
applicant
also
showed
a
comparison
between
city
park
and
this
one
and
the
density
is
the
exact
center.
It's
just
bigger
what
the
density
is.
The
same
density.
N
There's!
No
also
in
previous
meetings.
There
was
conversation
about
cabin
sites
and
I,
don't
see
anything
with
cabins
on
there
yet
and
that
whole
big,
empty
square
from
where
the
highway
comes
into
North,
Lake
Drive.
What's
the
planned
usage
for
that
empty
space,
yet
that
space
there
has
is
that
just
not
been
addressed
yet
or,
and.
F
O
N
F
Think
again,
when
we
were
talking
about
that
last
time,
we
had
no
idea
as
far
as
what
the
general
layout,
the
idea
is
having
to
have
at
least
two
access
points,
and
so
I
was
one
of
the
reasons
for
that
discussion
about
an
emergency.
If
we
only
had
one
way
in
you
wanted
an
emergency
out,
and
so
in
this
situation
the
applicant
is
showing
two
access
points,
which
is
what
would
we
would
recall.
N
Just
another
question
again:
I'm
not
familiar
with
ordinances
and
things
the
but
would
would
dumping
from
other
campsites
be
allowed
at
this
campsite,
since
they
do
have
a
dumpster
like
sandy
shores.
I,
don't
think,
has
a
dump
station
right
so
like
with
somebody
from
sandy
shores.
That's
there
come
to
this
campsite
to
dump
I'm
just
curious.
Do
you
have
ordinances
on
anything
like
that
or
that.
B
Would
be
up
to
the
owner
of
the
campground
I
mean
so
commonly
I
camp
myself.
So
if
we
stay
at
sandy
shore,
sometimes
what
a
pelican
sometimes
will
come
to
the
city
park
sometimes
will
go
to
the
zoo
casino.
It
would
be
again
up
to
the
owner
up
to
the
owner
if
he
wants
to
have
it
at
free
or
charge
or.
N
So
to
be
determined
and
just
lastly,
I
think,
would
be
a
is
there
anything
regarding
quiet
hours,
ordinances
for
quiet
hours,
like
other
campsites,
I
know
on
I,
think
sandy
shores,
Stokes
immemorial,
all
talked
about.
You
know
11:00
p.m.
to
7:00
a.m.
quiet
hours.
Is
there
going
to
be?
Do
you
know
anything?
Is
there
anything
ordinance
regarding
that
or.
F
I,
don't
there's
any
specific
zoning
regulations
pertaining
to
noise,
but
the
city
does
have
noise
regulations
that,
like,
if
you're
living
at
your
house
right
now,
if
your
neighbors
crazy
loud
at
11:00
o'clock
at
night-
and
you
call
the
cops,
the
cops
are
gonna
show
up
and
investigate
no
different.
What
happened
here
is
what
I
would
presume
so.
N
N
N
F
N
E
O
O
Started
well
when
the
water
was
up
mostly
in
April
I
mean
it
came
up,
but
the
high
water
time
that
was
before
the
high
water
and
then
it
takes
so
long
for
it
just
drain,
because
the
whole
water
table,
and
now
we
know
that
the
water
table
is
full
all
over
the
land
is
saturated.
How
long
did
you
know
you.
O
O
You
were
lower
than
I
am
so
anybody
who's
higher
of
course
thinks
that
they
can
use
their
water
but,
as
it
runs,
obviously
runs
down,
but
the
pumping
station
is
over
full,
they
put
sandbags
around
it
and
they
were
also
actually
in
there
pumping
out
the
pump
station
into
trucks
to
take
it
away
because
the
system
was
getting
overwhelmed
and
we
were
using
limited
water
and
limited
and
and
and
not
using
our
toilet.
Keith
could.
F
H
What
that
would
look
like
is
you
know
they
estimated
flows
produced
from
a
use
such
as
a
campground
will
have
to
be
verified
by
a
licensed
engineer
and
provided
to
us
so
that
we
can
anticipate
what
kind
of
a
load
a
loading
on
the
sanitary
sewer
system
that
we
will
incur
once
this
is
developed.
We
take
that
information
and
we
work
with
the
developers
engineer
and
assessing
that
to
make
sure
that
the
city's
sewer
system
is
not
overloaded
and
not
does
not
exceed
capacity
so
like
with
any
commercial
development
or
industrial
development.
H
Those
things
are
looked
at
very
closely
and
when
we
review
the
specifics
of
the
design-
and
that's
exactly
what
would
happen
here
in
relation
to
the
overloading
of
the
system-
do
the
high
water
levels
that's
another
component.
We
will
look
at
as
well
it's
kind
of
a
whole
separate
issue
that
has
to
deal
with
the
surface
water
and
ground
water
and
fill
infiltrating
and
in
flowing
into
the
sanitary
sewer
system.
H
It's
not
it's
not
related
to
the
use
of
the
system
like
it's
designed
for,
but
it's
it's
more
related
to
the
unexpected
realities
that
occur
in
situations
like
this,
so
those
are
components
to
that.
We
will
look
at
closely
with
the
design
and
there
would
likely
be
some
stipulations
and
regulations
in
regards
to
any
sanitary
sewer
connections.
H
For
these
campers,
these
camping
pads
to
be
connected
to
the
system
in
relation
to
the
floodplain
elevation,
and
we
know
that
there's
there's
floodplain
throughout
this,
this
parcel
of
land
and
that
will
be
heavily
scrutinized
and
reviewed
against
to
make
sure
that
the
system
is
not
compromised
because
of
high
flood
waters.
Yeah.
O
Thank
you,
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
you
are
I'm
sure
thinking
about
is
forward,
because
this
could
I
mean
it
happened
in
April,
but
I.
Think
across
from
your
house,
Marc
out
of
the
lake.
The
road
was
closed
for
a
very
long
time
way
into
June,
because
this
the
pumping
station
still
had
closed
the
road
because
it
still
had
bags
around
it.
O
That
was
also
didn't
close,
the
road
at
my
place,
but
it
was
up
there
for
months,
and
we
know
that
last
time
the
lake
came
up
at
least
three
times
12
inches
over
a
weekend
over
a
four-day
period,
and
that
was
when
the
land
wasn't
completely
saturated.
So
we
may
be
looking
at
a
system
that
is
not
usual
and
depending
on
what
you
think
about
climate
change.
D
D
F
You
know
at
a
Walmart
there
it
could
be
a
hell
of
a
lot
worse
and
then
what
this
proposed
campground
would
would
be,
and
it's
because
of
that
and
we've
went
through
this
process
of
determining
from
land-use
planning,
purpose
and
and
the
zoning
ordinance
that
this
is
an
appropriate
c3
area.
This
is
a
use,
that's
generally
acceptable
in
the
c3
I
think
it's
the
best
use
possible
for
this
land
of
the
c3
uses
from
an
impact.
F
Its
therefore
I
would
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
request,
subject
to
a
couple
conditions,
condition
number
one
that
the
final
design
dealing
with
access
and
and
all
the
curb
and
gutter
and
sidewalk
trail
issues
and
all
the
other
design
issues
that
are
associated
be
approved
by
staff
in
accordance
with
the
ordinance.
If
there
is
a
fight
between
staff
and
the
applicant,
the
applicant
can
always
bring
those
appeals
back
to
the
board
for
vetting.
O
F
We
haven't
gotten
to
what
that
ordinance
is
yet,
but
right
now
there
is
right
now
the
ordinance
just
says
you
can't
have
a
camper
in
there
for
more
than
30
days,
the
campground
can
be
open
year-round.
If
there's
a
subsequent
change
to
the
ordinance.
The
applicant
has
stated
that
they
would
comply
with
that.
If
everybody
else
has
to
comply
with
it,
he
would
as
well
and
so
I'm
just
saying
that
as
part
of
my
motion
that
the
applicants
on
record
and
agreeing
to
whatever
we
come
up
with-
and
he
said
he
would
be
I.
B
Have
a
little
bit
of
a
struggle
with
that
kind
of
what?
If
that,
again,
this
campground
up
in
Ortonville
I'm,
somewhat
familiar
with
I,
contacted
the
owner,
I
think
believe
he
said,
he's
got
78
campers
that
stay
there
year-round
I
think
you're
were
somewhat
limiting.
What
what
their
options
are
that
if,
if
someone
wants
to
build
a
deck
or
make
it
more
of
a
year-round,
deal
permanent
structure
and
again
that's
their
business
model,
that's
I.
Don't
know
that!
That's
for
us
as
the
board
to
decide.
Yes,
if
the
ordinance
changes,
yes,.
F
B
B
F
B
F
F
E
Just
I
mean
the
campground
regulation
is
separate,
is
defined
separately,
so
it
just
defines
the
operation
of
campgrounds
in
general.
So
today
you
would
be
proving
the
you'd
be
blessing
the
ground
to
operate
a
campground
right.
That
doesn't
mean
that
campground
ordinance
can't
change
and
that
person
would
have
to
comply
now
if
it
was
something
structurally
that
they
put
in
the
ground.
That
was
allowed
under
one
version
of
the
ordinance,
and
then
we
changed
the
ordinance.
Of
course,
that
would
be
grandfathered
in.
F
F
I
D
F
D
I'd,
like
to
kind
of
point
out
our
probably
our
most
common
conditional
use
that
we
see
on
this
board
is
daycares
and
with
daycares
we
always
often
say.
Would
it
be
great
if
there
was
a
list
of
rules
that
we
could
say,
does
it
meet
these?
Does
it
meet
these
campground
has
that
in
21.7
six
it
lays
out
nine
rules
that
it
go
additional
and
if
they
meet
all
of
those
I
just
feel
like
I
mean
that's
what
our
ordinance
says.