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Plan Commission Meeting - 09-24-2020
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This
came
before
the
plan
commission
on
the
plan
commission
recommended
at
the
march
19th
meeting,
and
then
the
city
council
unanimously
approved
it
at
the
april
6
2020
meeting.
So
the
reason
why
it's
back
in
front
of
you
today
is
because
the
boundaries
of
the
tiff
have
changed,
and
so
this
is
just
just
ratifying
that
change.
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In
the
package
is
that
the
alley
it's
so
this
is
the
okay
hang
on.
Are
we
doing
that
vacation
tonight
too?
Yeah?
That's
the
next
one,
no
okay!
So
this
so
that
that
will
be
the
next
action.
But
sorry
I
went
too
far,
okay,
so
what
we
included
before
was
this
south
alley.
So
then,
now
they
are
only
including
the
parcel
there.
That's
that
the
county,
fair
banquet
hall,
used
to
sit
on
now.
It's
the
parkside
place
project.
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I
don't
know
why
it
does
this,
though,
and
it
doesn't
like.
Let
me
okay,
there
we
go
okay,
so
you
can
see
there.
This
is
what
this
was
the
previous
boundary,
and
this
is
the
amended
boundary
and
then
so
we
previously
vacated
this
portion
of
the
alley.
The
next
action
on
this
agenda
will
be
the
south
alley,
which
is
not
included
anyway,
because
it
will
be
split
by
the
property
owners
and
it'll.
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Chris
shilkin
water
tunnel,
women
company,
that's
correct,
blake.
We
weren't
sure
what
the
utilities
were
going
to
be
so
they're
not
moving
some
and
then
we
did
consult
with
the
state
and
got
a
attorney
general
opinion
on
how
to
amend
this,
and
they
thought
the
easiest.
Cleanest
way
was
just
to
bring
it
back
through,
like
you,
normally
would
and
do
the
tiff
process
against
lots.
We
opted
to
do
just.
There
was
no
questions
down
the
road
to
make
sure
we're
doing
it.
The
right
way.
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Thank
you,
so
this
is
kind
of
a
just
housekeeping
thing.
We
we
we've
been
through
this
tiff.
We
discussed
it
the
city's
allowed
to
have
so
many
tips
or
so
much
valuation
worth
of
tiffs
and
we're
currently
under
that-
and
this
is
one
that
we
already
approved,
we're
just
fixing
the
boundaries,
correct,
randy,
yep,.
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Okay,
sorry
for
that,
okay,
so
we
are
doing
commission
consideration
of
resolution
number
2020-51
approving
the
vacation
of
a
10-foot
alley
on
the
south
side
of
the
former
county,
fair
banquet
hall.
So,
as
I
had
alluded
to
with
that
last
action
item
with
the
tiff
that
will
encompass
this
area.
Well,
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't
encompass
the
alley
so
that
doesn't
apply
but
same
area.
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But
what
we're
doing
is
the
commercial
tenant,
which
is
the
gamber
family,
who's
going
to
lease
back
that
front
space
they're
in
in
the
process
right
now,
and
they
have
secured
a
tenant
or
the
ability
to
have
a
pharmacy
and
an
urgent
care
in
that
front
space,
and
so
what
they
want
to
do
is
be
able
to
put
a
drive-through
lane
for
the
pharmacy
on
that
through
that
alley,
which
will
now
be
13
feet,
so
it
just
makes
it
a
lot
more.
I
mean
anyone
who
has
a
full-size
truck.
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You
got
to
fold
your
mirrors
in
at
10
feet
so
13
feet
just
makes
it
a
little
more
easy
to
go
through
there,
so
that
was
really
kind
of
the
catalyst
behind
all
of
this.
If
it
would
remain
a
city
alley,
we
can't
use
it
for
a
you
know,
a
private
right-of-way
of
that
sorts,
but
again
twofold
making
it
wider
for
snow
removal.
Things
like
that
and
then,
of
course,
this
commercial
tenant
would
just
be
a
lot
more
more
ability
to
utilize
that.
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Yeah,
that
was
that
was
going
to
be
one
of
my
next
questions.
One
concern
I
always
have
whenever
we
make
a
public
access
way.
Private
is
just
who
maintains
it.
You
know
we
do
have
a
couple
of
instances
in
town
where
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
on
privately
owned
right
and
then
it's
you
know
who
who
does
the
maintenance
so
on?
Something
like
this?
Do
we
know
who
would
be
responsible
for.
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So
long
story,
short
public
right
away
would
be
vacated.
We'd
require
the
appropriate
easements
for
the
use
of
that
of
that
property,
but
it
would
be
private
property
at
that
point,
and
I
would
not
expect
that
the
city
would
do
snow
maintenance
on
that,
based
on
just
past
practices
and
conventionally,
how
that
would
work.
Yeah.
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I
know
we
take
care
of
that.
I
mean
that
we
already
had
that
conversation
when
we
vacated
the
the
alley
to
the
to
the
east
of
the
property
and
with
the
community
foundation
in
regards
to
maintaining
even
that
alley,
because
now
that
that
stops
going
north,
and
so
we
are
going
to
do
snow
removal
on
that
with
skid
steers
and
such,
and
so
this
just
kind
of
loops
around
to
the
l.
So
it's
pretty
easy
to
maintain
that
I
think
the
biggest
thing
is
looking
at
going
from
a
10
foot.
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You
know
really
an
alley
that
needed
to
be
repaired.
It
was
in
pretty
disrepair
to
go
into
13
feet.
Not
only
does
it
allow,
for
you
know
my
utilization
and
my
tenants
utilization,
but
it's
also
a
walkability
corridor
that
we
view
as
as
leading
to
the
downtown
park,
so
I
think,
there's
some
fun
stuff
that
could
be
done
in
that
alley.
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As
far
as
you
know,
you
know
in
fargo
we've
done
where
we,
you
know
allow
artists
come
in
from
like
lake
syria,
tech
or
something
like
that,
of
course,
would
be
different
in
fargo,
but
they
can
do
murals
and
things
like
that
on
the
brick,
it
changes
every
two
years.
It's
just
kind
of
fun,
something
you
know
more
contemporary
and
cool
culturally.
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I
don't
typically
like
to
vacate
a
a
a
road
or
an
alley
if
there's
going
to
be
a
traffic
still
on
it,
but
in
this
case
this
is
more
like
a
drive-through,
so
I
mean
that
it's
not
anybody's
traffic,
it's
more
of
their
traffic,
so
I
see
this
as
a
as
a
different
case.
You
know
this.
Isn't
this
isn't
like
the
walmart
road,
where
there's
a
bunch
of
traffic
to
different
businesses?
This
is
you
know,
traffic
to
one
business
if
we
vacate
this
alley,
so
I
just
kind
of.
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No
number
one
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
for
the
pharmacy
drive
through
but
and
the
the
city
is
going
to
maintain
that
easement
through
there.
But
no
that's
my
my
whole
plan,
I
mean,
even
when
I
was
you
know,
trying
to
vacate
the
alley
between
the
lofts
and
the
sushi
downtown
sushi
was
to
get
the
walkability
aspect
of
it,
because
I
just
think
these
act
as
corridors
and
we've
done
some
really
cool
stuff
with
them
in
the
past,
and
I
think
there's
some
really
cool
stuff.
We
could
do
down
here.
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And
actually
I'll
go
back
to
this
view
so
you'll
see
here
when
this
was
planted
as
the
country
club
estates
edition
there
was
some
right-of-way
included.
Now
that
was
never
improved,
so
we
are
able
to
vacate
that
per
this
plat,
so
lisa
and
what's
the
other
one
lisa
and
carol
avenue,
are
60-foot
right-of-ways
that
were
dedicated
at
the
time
in
1984
when
this
was
planted
previously
and
then
now.
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This
plat
is
also
is
vacating,
those
right-of-ways
per
the
function
of
the
plat
and
then,
as
far
as
I
noted,
54th
straight
northwest,
because
they
will
be
dedicated
an
additional
seven
feet
of
right-of-way
to
allow
for
that
to
someday.
If
that
is
ever
a
collector
route
someday,
we,
the
requirement,
is
80
foot
of
right-of-way,
so
they
are
giving
that
additional
seven
feet
so
to
to
meet
that
requirement,
and
then
also
beans
at
54th
street
exists
as
a
gravel
road.
A
Yes,
yeah.
Thank
you
for
clarifying
that,
because
private
street
is
not
that
where
we
got
that
standard,
the
28
foot
is
our
minimum
for
a
private
street.
So
thank
you
for
clarifying
that
bonnie.
This
will
still
remain.
54Th
will
remain
a
public
right-of-way,
but
typically
the
the
street
is
paved
by
adjacent
landowners,
or
it's
done
at
the
time
of
the
subdivision.
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Yeah
and
most
likely
I
mean,
if
most
likely
50
I
mean
you,
never
know
what
the
future
holds,
but
right
now
means
that
it
is
the
golf
course
it
most
like
they.
They
will
just,
instead
of
even
extending
it
to
the
ex
to
the
extents
of
the
lot
line.
They'll
just
go
to
the
driveway
just
so
we
have
that
act
so
that
paved
access
connectivity
on
this
one
and
because
it's
just
not
it's
not
a
typical
way
to
develop.
Do.
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Yes,
so
this
area
here
these
will
remain.
These
have
remained
our
one
single
family,
residential
lots,
yep,
and
so
they
were
not
included
in
the
rezone,
so
here
I'll
show
on
gis,
so
it
is
there.
This
already
exists
that
little
parcel
there,
where
they'll
for
access
yeah
so
it'll,
be
these
three
lots
here.
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No,
no,
this.
That
is
one
lot
that
is
just
lot
one
or
if,
if
this
plant
is
approved,
that's
just
becomes
lot
one
instead
of
three
lots-
and
this
was
before
us
a
few
weeks
ago
as
a
re-zone,
and
I
I
assume
that
the
the
rezone
when
we
did
it,
we
intended
it
to
match
up
with
the
lot
line.
So
now
all
of
lot
one
will
be
r1
and
all
of
lot
2
will
be
late,
commercial,
correct.
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And
then
they
will
submit
with
their
building
permit
they'll
submit
their
hydraulic
analysis
for
their
pond
and
the
construction
plans.
For
that
it
will
remain.
It
won't
be
like
public
infrastructure,
it
will
remain
private,
we'll
enter
into
a
bmp
maintenance
agreement
with
them,
and
they
will
have
they'll,
maintain
it
privately,
but
then
that
that
bmp
maintenance
agreement
allows
the
city
to
order
maintenance
be
be
completed
if
it's
necessary.
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The
thing
that
we
would
consider,
though,
if
they
attempted
to
vacate
it
and
replat
it
is,
we
require
all
lots
to
have
frontage
access.
So,
as
you
can
see
on
this
plat
lot,
one
gets
frontage
access
from
south
lake
drive
and
lots
2
and
3
both
get
access
to
54th
street.
If
they
tried
to
just
cut
out
a
lot
in
lot
2,
it
would
have
to
also
touch
54th
street,
so
that
kind
of
makes
makes
what
you're
asking
very
difficult,
if
not
impossible,.
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Yep,
so
we
have
that
in
ordnance
too,
so
he
is
actually
allowing
there's
still
40
feet
there,
but
the
minimum
is
28
feet
and
they
don't
have
to
have
curb
and
gutter.
So
it
is.
They
are
util
and
then
privately
maintained
unless
they
have
a
a
maintenance
agreement
with
the
city.
But
we
would
not
this.
This
would
not
seem
like
one
that
we
would
enter
into
on
that
because,
like
I'm
thinking,
for
example,
valley
view
fifth,
fifth
street,
I
believe
I
don't
know
who
does
that
snow
removal,
but
it
is.
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No
and
the
only
other
thing
that
I
I
just
wanted
to
be
transparent
about
the
the
54th
street
and
how
we
were
handling
that
for
paved
access
that
we
weren't
there's
not
a
development
agreement
tied
to
this,
because,
like
they're,
only
dedicating
seven
feet
at
this
time,
so
it's
hard
to
tie
a
development
agreement
so
we'll
tie
it
at
the
time
of
the
building
permit
and
then
also
with
the
building
permit.
We
will
get
a
waiver
of
right
to
protest
future
improvements.