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Public Works, Finance & Safety Committee Meeting - 09-21-2020
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Motion
carry
thank
you
item
item
6a.
Is
approval
of
construction
change
order
number
one
final:
with
asphalt:
surface
technologies
corporation
for
the
2020
pavement
rehabilitation,
crack
ceiling
and
seal
coating
project
project
number
2006
for
an
increase
of
8
376
dollars,
14
cents,
a
motion
by
helene
and
a
second
by
rademski,
and
I
will
ask
the
public
works
director
city
engineer,
heath
von
nai
to
explain
this.
E
Thank
you
mayor.
This
is
a
standard,
closeout
change
order.
If
you
will
for
one
of
our
projects
here
in
in
the
current
construction
season,
this
work
has
been
complete
now
and
the
quantities
have
been
tabulated
and
the
contractor
and
our
staff
have
come
to
an
agreement
on
the
final
quantities
and
that's
essentially
what
this
changer
will
do
is
final
out
the
project.
There
was
a
little
bit
of
an
overrun
on
some
of
the
of
the
quantities
to
the
tune
of
a
little
over
eight
thousand
dollars.
E
The
original
contract
price
was
358,
000,
190
250,
and
this
change
order
would
bring
the
total
contract
amount
up
to
366
thousand
five.
Sixty
eight
sixty
four
street
superintendent
rob
baines
on
the
line
with
us
here
today
is
along
along
with
assistant
city
engineer,
justin
peterson
we'd
be
glad
to
help
answer
your
questions.
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B
D
A
Monty
carey,
thank
you.
Item
b
is
approval
of
a
lease
agreement
with
the
government
services
administration
in
the
amount
of
eighteen
thousand,
seven
hundred
thirty
four
dollars
for
the
first
five
years
and
nineteen
thousand
seven
hundred
twenty
dollars
for
the
second
five
years
for
tsa
space
at
the
watertown
regional
airport,
authorizing
the
mayor
to
sign
all
applicable
documents
motion
by
holine
and
a
second
by
mueller,
and
I
will
again
ask
the
public
works
director
to
tell
us
about
this.
One.
E
E
Our
lease
is
with
the
government
services
administration
and
underneath
them
has
housed
the
tsa,
who
officially
take
up
the
space
that
they
lease
out
there
at
the
airport
terminal.
The
lease
that's
identified
here
as
you'll,
see
in
the
background
information
on
this
council
or
this
public
works
committee
item
is
for
493
square
feet.
E
This
lease
is
a
10-year
lease,
as
you
noted
in
the
in
the
title
there.
It's
based
on
two
five-year
segments
and
incremental
increase
there
for
the
second
five
years,
also
to
note
that
this
square
footage
would
also
increase
in
the
new
airport
terminal
once
that
project
is
complete
and
they
moved
into
that
space.
This
lease
agreement
would
be
modified
and
amended
at
that
time
to
accommodate
for
the
new
square
footage
that
they
would
be
occupying
in
our
terminal.
E
A
B
C
B
E
E
It
should
be
based
on
the
price
per
square
foot
just
like
this
contract
currently
is
also
back
step
here.
Just
the
current
rental
rate
is
35
and
98
cents
per
square
foot.
That
is
being
increased
for
this
current,
the
first
five-year
term
to
38
dollars.
So
we're
going
up
from
35.98
to
38
dollars
per
square
foot
and
then
it
will
see
another
incremental
jump
up
to
40
dollars
a
square
foot
for
those
subsequent
five
years.
E
Yes,
I
would
say
just
based
on
the
history
that
we've
had
with
the
tsa
and
our
contracts
that
we
have
executed
with
them,
that
that
seems
to
be
the
standard
again
I
apologize
todd
not
being
online.
He
could
probably
talk
more
in
in
detail
to
that
than
I
could.
But
that's
my
understanding
is
that
those
five-year
blocks
are
pretty
standard
a
way
to
carry
out
these
leases
with
the
tsa.
C
E
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C
Thank
you
mayor.
I,
I
might
be
too
much
of
a
stickler
for
grammar,
but
you
raised
a
good
point.
I
think
I
would
like
to
change
my
motion
to
read
after
you
know
the
amount
18
734
for
each
of
the
first
five
years
and
then
also
for
19
000
for
each
of
the
second
five
years.
I
think
that
just
makes
it
clearer
and
I
think
that
would
be
more
appropriate
to
do
that.
A
Okay,
we
need
to
vote
on
that
change.
I
don't
think
so.
You
made
the
motion
all
right,
just
clarifying
item.
Okay,
all
right!
Any
other
comments
before
we
vote
adam
your
hand
is
still
up.
Did
you
want
to
say
something?
Councilman,
lalum?
No,
sorry
about
that.
All
right,
no
problem,
all
right!
Those
in
favor
say
I
and
those
opposed,
say,
nay,
roll
call
vote,
please
kristin
albertson.
A
Carries
thank
you
item
c.
Is
authorization
for
the
mayor
to
sign
an
application
to
place
the
wastewater
treatment
facility
primary
clarifier
number
two
replacement
project
number
2022
on
the
state
water
plan
motion
by
holine
second,
by
rademski
and
I'll
ask
the
public
works
director
again
to
tell
us
about
this.
E
E
One
of
the
if,
if
you
also
recall
from
the
previous
discussions
with
the
hdr
contract,
was
that
one
of
our
first
steps
was
going
to
need
to
be
to
put
this
project
on
the
state's
water
plan.
That
then
makes
the
project
eligible
for
the
different
funding
options
that
the
state
offers,
through
the
dnr
through
the
state
water
plan
that
they
administer
those
funds
through
in
order
to
be
eligible
for
those
funding
programs.
The
these
projects
in
any
community
do
have
to
be
on
that
list.
E
So
hdr
has
helped
us
fill
out
this
application
with
all
the
prudent
details
and
information
regarding
the
primary
clarifier
project
and
have
got
an
application
prepared
and
ready
to
submit
for
the
october
deadline
to
make
it
for
consideration
for
the
state
water
plan.
So
that's
the
action
before
the
council.
This
would
go
on
to
the
consent
agenda.
B
B
A
C
A
E
E
And
so
that's
what
we're
looking
for
tonight.
The
mailbox
portion
of
this
discussion
rob
will
touch
on
that
too,
but
we're
looking
for
some
direction
on
formalizing
that
that
policy
and
how
it's
administered
and
getting
some
input
from
the
public
works
committee
there
as
well,
so
rob
if
we,
if
I
could
hand
it
over
to
you
and
you
could
talk
through
some
of
those
details.
E
F
A
F
Okay,
so
currently
with
the
snow
gates
as
I've
expressed
prior
to
this
council
meeting,
we
currently
run
when
we're
fully
staffed
with
full-timers.
We
have
12
people
and
that
creates
three
teams:
four-man
teams
right
now,
so
you
have
two
motor
graders,
a
plow
truck
sander
and
then
a
wheel
loader
to
follow
this
last
season.
Everything
you
see
in
the
red
here
is
what
we
focused
on
with
our
snow
gates,
which
was
all
the
way
from
14th
avenue
south
to
highway.
F
212
and
the
west
boundary
was
21st
street
and
the
east
boundary
was
19th
street
east,
so
we
have
in
the
past,
we
tried
we
did
use
snow
gates
in
some
of
these
areas
to
the
north
and
east
of
14th
avenue,
but
we
we
certainly
didn't,
have
enough
snow
gates
with
the
three
of
them
three
teams,
three
snow
gates
to
do
the
whole
city
in
a
timely
fashion.
So
that's
where
we've
hired
contractors
to
fill
in,
but
there
there
is
currently
no
contractors
that
have
snow
gates
on
their
machines.
F
F
If
we,
you
know,
get
a
direction
from
you
guys
on
whether
we
go
away
from
snow
gates
and
then
we'll
switch
back
to
three
man
teams
which
will
create
four
teams
instead
of
three
or
if
we
stay
with
the
current
operation
and
try
to
snowgate
the
whole
city.
But
if
we
do,
we
want
to
look
at
purchasing
more
machinery
to
do
that
and
somehow
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
do
the
staff
and
for
that
as
well-
and
I
guess
really
with
that
being
said-
you
kind
of-
can
see
the
area.
F
F
I
mean
we
were
doing
you
know
some
of
this
north
area
and
the
east
area,
and
what
we
came
up
with.
We
were
trying
to
get
done
plowing
at
similar
times
as
the
contractors
that
we've
hired
to
do
the
outer
areas
and
by
reducing
this
area
down
to
just
what
you
see
in
the
red
instead
of
everything
out
here,
we
were
able
to
get
done,
plowing
the
city
sooner
and
try
to
get
done
with
everything
you
know
consistent
with
the
contractors
as
well.
F
F
F
Motor
graders
do
take
more
fuel
to
run
than
plow
trucks
do
in
general.
I
don't
think
you're
going
to
see
a
lot
cost
wise
for
fuel
that
type
of
thing,
but
you
will,
if
you
stay
with
snow
gates.
Of
course,
the
machines
when
you
buy
motor
graders
they're
we're
right
now
out
in
the
market
for
a
new
motor
grader
and
that's
gonna,
run
over
three
hundred
thousand
dollars.
F
Plow
trucks,
I'm
also
in
the
market
for
a
plow
truck
right
now
and
a
single
axle
plow
truck
run
in
the
area
of
about
a
hundred
sixty
thousand
dollars.
So
machine
wise.
You
know
you
can
get
two
plow
trucks
for
the
cost
of
one
blade,
that's
kind
of
where
that
is,
of
course,
the
loaders,
the
wheel,
loaders
you
you
need
those
behind
each
team,
no
matter
what
we
follow
up
with
the
whole
zone.
F
E
F
That
is
correct.
Yeah.
I
should
have
clarified
that
we
do
still
need
motor
graders.
We
plow
the
driving
lane
with
motor
graders,
no
matter
what
and
occasionally
we'll
have
to
do
the
the
parking
lane
on
the
side
of
the
road
as
it
gets
packed
with
snow
like
if
you
can
see
this.
This
is
just
one
from
an
old
slide
show.
I
did
a
while
back
three
man
teams
compared
to
four
man
teams
and
where
these
motor
graders
run
like
in
a
four
man
team.
F
E
F
That's
what
I
was
talking
about
here,
I'm
sorry.
I
thought
you
guys
had
it
up,
but
anyway,
with
the
four-man
teams,
you
have
two
motor
graders
and
and
a
plow
truck
that
follows
with
the
plow
not
being
used,
but
we
need
the
sander
and
of
course
you
follow
with
the
loader
three-man
team
use
a
plow
truck
on
the
edge
to
get
the
snow
over
plus
you
sand
with
it
as
you
go
and
so
you're,
basically
leaving
you
know
in
our
team
of
12
people,
you
you're
able
to
create
another
team.
F
Another
three-man
team
with
that
now
snow
gates,
like
we've,
said
before
before,
are
really
nice
at
certain
times
they're.
They
work
well
early
in
the
season
and
lower
snows
they
work.
Well,
so
really
I
mean
it's
a
tough
decision.
I
know
it'll
be
up
to
you
guys
on
how
you
go
forward,
but
I
just
need
directions.
So
we
can
move
forward
on
on
getting
the
right
equipment.
F
We
still
need
motor
graders
because
we
use
them
in
the
front,
no
matter
what
we
use
them
in
the
driving
lane
on
the
three-man
team
and
occasionally
we'll
go
over
and
scrape
ice
off
a
parking
edge,
because
the
the
plow
trucks
don't
tend
to
get
the
down
pressure
as
a
motor
grader
does
to
scrape
ice.
I'm
working
on
that
in
future
trucks.
I
have
one
truck
so
far
that
we're
able
to
put
down
pressure
on
the
edge
and
scrape
a
little
bit.
B
F
F
B
F
He'd
be
at
225
an
hour
for
running
a
snow
gate
setup
which
is
actually
not
the
highest
price
we
have.
We
do
have
a
motor
grader
with
a
wing
and
v-plow
on
the
front,
that's
250
an
hour,
and
then
we
actually
have
a
contractor
that
has
if
he
just
runs
his
moldboard,
it's
220
hours,
but
in
general.
Yes,
it
is,
it
is
a
little
higher
than
he
runs
without
the
snow
gate.
We're
looking
at
about
a
fifty
dollar
an
hour
increase
with
the
snow
gate.
B
F
B
A
F
We
would
we
would
need
to
grow
our
fleet
of
motor
graders
and
then,
of
course,
if
we're
trying
to
grow
if
we're
trying
to
I'd
figure
the
town,
the
way
we
do
it
currently,
we
we
try
to
break
into
five
teams
is
what
we
do.
If
we
have
more
contractors,
then
I
break
it
down
into
more
small
areas
with
more
teams,
but
generally
we're
able
to
create
five
teams
and,
of
course,
the
city
provides
three
of
those
teams.
F
B
F
Have
we're
in
the
market
for
another
new
one
to
come
into
our
fleet,
which
we
could
get
that
one?
That's
actually
the
decision
you
guys
make
tonight
will
determine
if
I
order
that
that
blade
with
a
snow
gate
or
with
a
wing
for
plowing
like
the
edges
of
the
roads,
the
ditch
areas
and
rural
sections
and
that
type
of
thing,
but.
B
F
A
F
F
We've
been
trying
to
focus
on
the
core
of
the
city
and
expand
out
from
there.
You
know
the
there's
really
no
rhyme
or
reason
to
where
we
go
other
than
the
the
lake.
You
know
we
left
off
completely
and
if
we
would
expand
to
five,
we
try
to
do
the
leak.
The
reason
we've
left
it
off
is
south
lake
drive,
gets
sewn
and
dug
it
and
then
dated
with
snow
that
snow
gates
probably
won't
be
effective.
F
B
F
So
in
that
case
you
usually
have
to
you're
forced
to
put
the
gate
up
so
that
you
can
evacuate
it
and
get
the
snow
off
the
road.
You
know
it's
like.
What's
the
worst
of
two
evils
to
carry
the
snow
past
and
still
have
snow
on
the
road
somewhat,
you
know
you
won't
get
all
of
it.
You'll
still
have
snow
in
the
driveway
and
snow
on
the
road.
You
know
if
you
have
driveways
real
close
together.
F
B
A
F
F
It
does
create
issues
too,
because
no
matter
how
many
times
I've
discussed
how
they
work,
there's
still
people
that
do
believe
they
should.
They
should
clean
out
the
end
of
their
driveway,
and
we
do
get
calls
that
people
are
upset
that
the
snow
gate
didn't
work.
You
know,
and
it's
just
it's
a
matter
of
how
much
snow
fell
on
the
ground
and
and
several
reasons
how
close
driveways
are.
F
If
the
wind
blew
you
know,
but
if
you
go
away
from
snow
gates,
of
course
you
don't
have
any
benefit
at
all,
even
early
in
the
season
where
they
do
benefit
people
earning
the
season,
but
you
know,
I
think
it's
a
thing
too.
You
know.
Where
do
you
draw
the
line
at
who
gets
the
use
of
the
snow
gates?
And
at
this
point
I
I
really
don't
believe
it's
fair
to
everybody,
because
not
everybody
gets
the
benefit
of
the
snow
gates.
Currently.
A
B
Yeah,
I
guess
thanks.
I
guess
I
have
always
leaned
towards
the
side
of
for
the
time
it
would
take
us
to
plow
with
snow
gates
versus
not
because
a
lot
of
times.
What
I
hear
is
more
how
fast
they
get
the
roads
plowed
versus
snow
at
the
end
of
the
driveways,
the
cost
and
the
fact
that
we
can't
use
them
a
lot
of
times
part
of
the
year.
B
I
would
see
that
we
would
be
able
to
decrease
overtime,
perhaps
or
some
of
those
kind
of
things,
how
much
we
pay
on
contractors
and
then
equipment
replacement
and
then
just
time
it
takes
to
get
the
whole
city
cleaned
to
me
that
list
favors
not
going
with
snowgate.
So
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
give
you
my
opinion
asked
rob
the
questions.
I
did.
B
Thank
you
mayor.
I
echo
what
beth
said
when
rob
first
presented
this
a
while
ago.
The
conclusion
I
came
to
in
summary
is
it
only
really
helps
certain
people
in
certain
parts
in
town
and
even
where
we're
using
snow
gates.
I
recall
discussion
about
how
their
effectiveness
diminishes
as
you
get
further
down
a
street.
B
B
D
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
what
the
decision
is
that
we're
looking
at
making
it
are
we
looking
at
all
or
nothing
situation
for
the
community
either
we're
going
to
try
to
cover
100
percent
of
it,
or
are
we
looking
at
still
maintaining
the
core,
excluding
the
perimeters,
or
are
we
looking
at
scrapping
them
completely?
I
guess
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
exactly
what
we're
going
to
what
we're
looking
at
doing.
F
You
know,
from
my
perspective,
I
was
looking
for
guidance
to
to
either
move
forward
and
continue
to
grow
the
program
snowgate
program
or
eliminate
them
all.
Together
I
mean
I
guess
there
is
the
option
of
of
continuing
what
we're
doing,
and
you
know
I
think
it
would
be
up
to
you
to
decide
where
we
go
with
this.
D
Councilman
bill
higher,
I
guess
as
long
as
I've
got
the
flurry
I
mean,
if
we're
looking
at
an
all-or-nothing
situation,
I
would
echo
what
what
beth
and
don
blows
that
I
would
be
in
favor
of
discontinuing
use
completely.
You
know,
maybe
I'm
being
selfish,
because
I
because
I
represent
an
area
that
you
know
derby,
downs
and
the
lake
that
has
not
had
them,
but
when
I,
when
I
have
heard
the
the
the
the
issues
that
we've
had
in
the
the
past,
the
extra
cost
of
manpower
slowing
things
down,
I
just
don't
see.
F
C
F
Yeah
and-
and
I
honestly
the
maintenance
isn't
that
bad
it
comes
down
to
situations
if
the
it
seems
like
cylinders
are
the
biggest
issue
and
we've
probably
oh,
I
guess
in
the
years
we've
had
those
three
snow
gates.
I
guess
we
went
through
four
or
five
cylinders,
so
it's
not
really
that
bad
I'd
say
we
go
through
rubber
edge
once
a
season
rob
how
much
faster.
F
C
You're
increasing
your
speed
by
quite
a
bit,
then
also
just
one
other
question
greater
wise.
If
you,
if
you're
purchasing
graters,
do
you
typically
always
purchase
the
six
wheel
drive
or
would
you
would
that
allow
you
to
go
to
four-wheel
drive,
and
would
you
go
that
direction
if
you
didn't
have
gates
to
deal
with.
F
F
If
they're
six
wheel
drive
when
they're
four
wheel
drive,
we
can't
get
as
tall
as
mold
boards,
which
sometimes
can
limit
how
much
you
can
take
at
a
time
how
big
a
swath
but
we'd
be
able
to
get
by
with
some
four-wheel
drive.
Blades
absolutely
we'd
be
able
to
save
some
money
there
and
I'd
be
guessing,
but
I
would
guess
around
40
000
per
blade,
maybe
50,
that
you'd
save
by
going
to
four
wheel,
drive
blades.
F
We
could
absolutely
if
we
get
away
from
gates,
we
absolutely
could
look
at
getting
four
wheel
drive
blades
as
some
of
our
replacements,
because
right
now
we
do
run
some
four-wheel
drive
blades
so
and
they
work
fine
they're.
Okay
with.
If
you
don't,
if
you
don't,
if
you're,
not
looking
at
pushing
a
v-plow
on
the
front
or
a
wing,
a
four-wheel
drive
blade
is
okay,
just
running
a
moldboard.
C
It
does
upset
a
lot
of
the
folks,
the
outlying
areas
that
don't
don't
get
those,
and
you
know
it
is
limited
to
like
six
inches
or
less
and
in
a
snowfall,
and
I
think
if
it
gets
slushy,
it
might
even
be
worse
than
that.
So
you
know
with
the
time
constraints
all
and
how
much
faster
you
can
go,
and
I
think
the
priority
typically
for
most
folks
in
the
community
is
to
get
this
done
as
soon
as
possible.
B
C
Thank
you
mayor.
This
would
be
a
question
either
for
rob
or
for
the
mayor,
but
I
think
that
the
sentiment
in
the
council
is
to
discontinue
their
use.
I
am
in
favor
of
that,
so
I
was
wondering:
do
we
need
to
make
an
official
motion
just
so
that
rob
has
that,
because
we
can
all
chime
in
and
say
that
we
either
like
them
or
don't
like
them,
but
I
haven't
heard
from
anyone
who
wants
to
who
wants
to
advocate
for
their
continued
use.
C
D
F
F
F
Yeah,
it's
it's.
I
believe
it's
just
the
three
communities
in
the
state
that
are
using
them
now.
I
know
other
communities
have
looked
at
using
them
matter
of
fact,
I
I
know
laster
had
gotten
a
call
from
another
community.
Actually
I
think
it
was
brookings
that
was
looking
at
using
them.
If
I
recall
right
yeah,
it
was
brookings
that
was
looking
at
using
them
as
well.
So
I
don't
know
where
they're
at
they've
decided
to
use
those
or
not.
B
I
just
wanted
to
comment
to
reid's
comment.
I
did
state
that
I
was
in
favor
of
continuing
to
use
them
and
would
like
to
see
that
additional
contractor
bring
it
on.
So
we
could
build
another
team,
so
I
still
am
in
favor
of
the
snow
gates
and
having
that
contractor
bring
another
one
on,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
my
point
was
clear:
if
it
wasn't
clear
when
I
made
it
earlier.
A
D
B
D
D
A
F
F
We,
the
people,
call
in
and
we
ask
them
to
bring
in
their
receipt
for
their
materials
for
the
mailbox
and
we'll
pay
for
those
materials,
but
we
do
not
pay
for
labor.
Now
we
have
had
in
the
last
six
and
a
half
years.
I've
been
over
here.
We've
had
a
few
times
where
people
have
nicer
mailboxes
and
I
think
we've
paid
close
to
three
hundred
dollars
for
materials
on
repairs.
F
Of
course
we
don't
pay
for
the
labor,
but
we
have
paid
for
the
materials.
Can
you
guys
see
my
screen
right
now?
Yes,
okay,
so
we
did
a
little
bit
of
research
and,
on
the
lower
end
of
things,
the
green
treated
post,
15,
standard
steel,
mailbox,
10,
miscellaneous
hardware
and
concrete
to
put
the
post
in.
If
that's
what
you
want
to
do,
15
bucks
and
then
at
75
flat
reimbursement
fee
that
would
leave
35
to
pay
somebody
to
install
it.
F
It
just
didn't,
and
maybe
it
is,
maybe
you
guys
think
it's
good.
I
don't
know
and
that's
where
I'm
looking
for
guidance
on
that
if
we
should
continue
with
just
reimbursing
the
materials
and
not
paying
labor
to
repair
the
box
or
if
we
should
do
a
flat
fee
that
when,
when
we
see
that
we've
damaged
the
box-
and
they
call
us
about
it,
if
we
send
them
a
check
for
a
flat
fee
of
75
or
100
dollars
to
repair
their
mailbox,
I
guess
I'm
looking
for
some
guidance
on
that.
E
Rob
just
for
clarity,
we
don't
have
an
adopted
policy
by
council
or
that's
been
informally
adopted
by
the
public
works
committee
in
the
past.
This
is
more
or
less
an
administrative
policy
that
you've
been
handed
over
since
you
became
street
superintendent
and
we're
just
looking
for
some
clarity
on
how
to
better
manage
the
program.
Essentially,
is
where
we're
at
now
right
rob.
D
F
A
Okay,
well,
I
I
like
your
idea
of
wanting
to
have
a
a
recommendation.
That's
uniform
so
that
we're
doing
treating
everybody
the
same.
The
fact
is
mailboxes
by
definition,
must
go
in
the
public,
right-of-way
or
the
post
office
will
not
deliver
the
mail.
If
you
put
it
back
on
your
own
property,
they
won't
deliver
the
mail
because
there's
a
boulevard
there.
It's
got
to
be
sticking
out
right
next
to
the
road
and
we
typically
do
not
allow
obstructions
of
any
type
in
that
space,
except
for
trees
or
mailboxes.
A
So
this
type
that
you're
showing
there
is
a
breakaway
and
the
some
people
build
pretty
fancy
monuments
for
their
mailboxes
and
and
those
can
actually
be
safety
issues
for
folks
if
the
speed
limit
is
higher
like
in
a
35
mile
per
hour
zone,
if
you
hit
a
brick
mailbox
monument,
it
can
do
quite
a
bit
of
damage.
It
can
total
the
car
can
hurt
people
if
anyone's
in
the
path
of
the
flying
monument
it
could
really
injure
or
kill
someone.
A
Something
like
these
are
breakaway
that
you
you're
shown
in
your
drawing
typically
doesn't
do
a
huge
amount
of
damage.
If
it's
broken,
it's
easy
to
fix,
this
is
kind
of
what
I
mean
you
have
to
have
your
mailbox
out
there.
We
get
that
if
everybody
did
these
sort
of
things,
it
wouldn't
be
a
big
deal,
but
are
you
seeing
damage
to
some
of
those
expensive?
F
You
know
I
I
think
they
actually
do
withstand
it
better.
We've
had,
I
was
telling
heath
today
that
we
haven't
had
any
brick
mailboxes
that
we
actually
had
to
repair.
We
did
have
one
this
last
winter
that
the
piece
that
actually
the
metal
piece
that
actually
holds
the
steel
box
to
it
had
had
slid
in
the
brick.
A
little
went
over
and
repaired
that,
but
that's
been
the
only
thing,
but
the
the
the
one.
I
remember
that
was
almost
300.
F
F
Maybe
we'd
have
to
revisit
it
in
the
future,
but
you
know
if
somebody
calls
in
and
we're
able
to
verify
that
their
mailbox
was
hit
and-
and
you
know
it's
hard
to
tell
all
the
time-
if
it's
us-
we
we
most
time
it
probably
is
us,
but
anyway
I
don't
want
to
get
to
a
point
where
we're
paying
three
400
500
bucks
for
a
mailbox
repair,
and
you
know
everybody
thinks
differently
about
their
mailboxes.
Some
people
want
a
nice
brick
one
and
they
look
good,
but
boy
they're
expensive
if
they
get
wiped
out.
F
F
F
You
know
I
didn't
look
into
that
mayor.
I
I
do
know
the
state
when
they
go
along
and
do
projects
along
the
highway
and
stuff
they
no
matter
what
it
is
for,
a
mailbox
that
somebody
has
they
replace
it
with
a
standard
breakaway
on
those
projects,
so
they
don't
replace
them
with
like
when
they're
doing
projects
they
will
not
replace
them
with
a
they
have
a
nice
brick
one
or
anything
like
that.
They
won't
replace
it.
That
way,
that'll
be
a
standard,
30
dollar
setup.
C
C
F
Yeah
there
is,
but
you
know
we
have
had
people
that
you
know.
I
don't
want
to
say
that
they
might
have
been
trying
to
pull
one
over
on
us
and
maybe
their
mailbox
got
tipped
over
by
some
kids
that
slid
into
it
or
something.
But
we
get
blamed
for
mailboxes.
Quite
often,
and
sometimes
you
know,
if
I
can
go
out
there
or
my
staff
can
and
we
see
something
that
shows
that
we
didn't
hit
it.
F
F
C
Because
I'm
getting,
I
guess
where
I'm
going
with
this,
is
there's
a
cost
associated
with
having
to
go,
investigate
these
things
and
communications
back
and
forth,
and
and
if
there
was
a
policy
that
says
hey,
you
know
bring
us
your
receipts
and
it's
capped
at
100
bucks.
That's
kind
of
my
the
way
I
figure
we
ought
to
proceed
with
this.
F
Yeah,
that's
true
too,
you
know
it's
like
I
say
we
do
generally
go
out
and
check
them
out
to
make
sure
that
you
know
nobody's
trying
to
pull
something
something
over
on
us,
but
I
don't
know
it's
it's
a
good
point,
though
you
know.
Maybe
we
should
require
a
receipt
and
we
cap
it.
Like
adam
was
saying
like
at
a
hundred
dollars.
B
C
C
D
D
A
Well,
that's
that's.
What
we
ran
into
with
our
sidewalk
reimbursement
program
is
that
we
ended
up
just
having
a
set
dollar
amount
like
rob's,
recommending
a
flat
amount,
because
some
people
were
doing
it
themselves
and-
and
there
is
labor
and
they
were
some
of
them
were
wanting
to
charge
for
their
own
labor,
but
we
weren't
allowing
that.
How
do
you
allow
it
what's
fair,
so
I
mean
it's
a
good.
We
could
try
it
for
a
while
and
see
how
it
works
or.
A
C
B
B
A
F
F
F
I
think
this
this
orange
line
you'll,
see
here
this
contractor-
did
come
back
down
and
I
don't
know
if
he
messed
up
on
his
on
his
quote
or
what
he
did,
but
his
prices
were
higher
as
you
can
see.
In
general,
the
prices
have
went
up,
especially
from
1718
to
19
and
20,
and
from
1920
to
this
year,
they've
kind
of
flattened
off
a
little
bit.
That's
for
side
dumps,
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
the
other
ones.
If
you
have
any
questions
about
that,
I
guess
I'll.
Take
questions
first,.
E
And
just
for
a
little
bit
of
context
mayor,
if
I
may
some
of
the
questions
here
that
rob
is
addressing
stem
back
to
the
quote
awards
that
we
talked
about
the
last
council
meeting
and
some
of
the
questions
that
I
believe,
councilman,
vilhauer
and
others
raised,
were
what
what
does
our
history
look
like
as
far
as
pricing
that
we
received
over
subs
or
prior
years?
And
that's
where
rob's
got
this
compiled
information
that
he's
walking
through
now.
F
Yep,
that's
yeah,
that's
exactly
correct!
I
know
the
hopefully
this
information
will
give
you
a
little
bit
more
insight
on
some
of
these
costs
and
what
they're
doing
now.
Last
year,
we
haven't
had
a
lot
of
people
that
have
been
interested
with
the
front
end
wheel,
loaders,
where
they
throw
a
push
box
on
the
front
like
a
16
foot,
push
box
just
basically
lines
it
out
in
there.
They
do
some
like
right.
F
Now
we
have
a
contractor
two
contractors
that
do
parking
lot
stuff
for
us,
the
wellness
center
and
the
event
center.
But
you
can
kind
of
see
the
one
contractor
has
stayed
across
the
board
same
price
and
16
clear
up
till
now.
This
contractors
gradually
went
up.
You
know,
since
six
units
went
up
quite
a
bit
for
regular
wheel
loaders.
You
can
see
this.
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Actually,
this
contractor
contractor
number
eight
didn't
bid
this
season
for
2021
they
didn't
bid,
so
these
prices
have
stayed
pretty
good
and
the
green
has
stayed
the
same.
The
blue
went
up
from
last
year
to
this
year.
10
bucks
an
hour,
and
this
really
hasn't,
went
up
that
much.
The
orange
hasn't
tandem
axle
dump
trucks.
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F
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They
jumped
a
lot
this
year
to
another
thirty
dollars
an
hour,
and
then
this
was
the
contract.
Earlier
I
was
saying
that
didn't
quote
this
year.
Last
year
was
the
last
year
it
quoted
so
otherwise
the
green
and
the
orange
have
stayed
pretty
much
the
same.
This
is
a
10
an
hour
bump
this
year.
So
that's
just
some
basic
information
that
I
wanted
to
show
you
guys
about
the
continuation
of
that
discussion
for
contractor
snow
removal
and
rental
equipment.
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I
guess
I'll
just
because
I
was
a
one
year
right,
heath.
I
was
the
one
that
prompted
this
this
exercise,
that
last
time
we
looked
at
this,
I
guess
it's
probably
a
fair
statement.
Rob
it's
probably
a
seller's
market
out
there.
The
way
it
looks
at
we're
just
glad
to
get
the
services
that
we
that
we
do
get
is
that
I
guess
probably
a
fair
statement.
F
Right,
that's
very
true.
You
know
with
with
motor
graders,
especially
it's
a
real
specialized
thing.
Dump
trucks.
You
know,
tandem
acts,
dump
trucks.
We
we
get
quite
a
few
contractors
that
bid
and
and
same
with
loaders
we
get
quite
a
few
and
that's
that's
not
even
all
of
them.
That's
the
the
higher
ones
or,
I
think,
actually
that's
the
ones
that
have
been
quoting
for
the
longest
time.
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D
Okay,
I
just
want
to
clarify
one
thing,
because
I
had
somebody
call
me
last
week
they
were
visiting
with
some
of
the
one
of
the
crew
that
because,
because
it's
doneck
that
we
are
working
with
out
there
right
the
individual
that
this
constituent
was
talking
with
from
dunnick
made
some
comment
about
well
we're
from
minnesota
and
and
my
constituent
took
exception.
Why
are
we
working
with
a
firm
out
of
minnesota?
So
I
explained
that
it's
done.
It
gets
headquartered
in
minnesota,
local
plant
old,
f,
fj
mclaughlin.
D
So
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
we
are
working
essentially
locally,
even
though
it
is
headquartered
out
of
minnesota
and
probably
do
have
some
people,
some
minnesota
residents
that
are
might
actually
working
here.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
and
also
the
jackson
park,
the
the
south
parking
lot.
I
see,
that's
being
that
project
is
starting.