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From YouTube: CNCF Business Value Subcommittee Meeting - November 2022
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A
A
I
have
good
news
so
Taylor,
who
is
working
on
the
ecosystem
side
of
the
cncf.
He
was
kind
of
interested
because
this
all
of
this
makes
really
sense
for
end
users
too,
so
he
wanted
to
join
our
meetings
moving
forward,
not
today,
because
we
just
talked
yesterday
but
like
kind
of
yeah,
so
I
think
it's
really
good
for
visibility
as
well.
So
we
can
find
out
what
what
to
do
so.
The
end
users
can
find
out
about
all
of
that.
A
So
I
think
that's,
that's
probably
going
to
be
really
good
for
us
moving
forward.
Oh-
and
let
me
just
share
the
agenda,
so
we
see
that
as
well.
A
Okay,
so
on
terms
of
the
glossary,
we
have
a
marketing
plan
that
we
need
to
accept
execute
on.
So
hopefully
we
can
start
doing
that.
We
have
lots
of
ideas,
a
few
things
that
we
did.
We
did
have
like
the
glossary
stickers
at
coupon.
It's
one
of
things
that
I
asked
if
they
could
do
that.
A
Just
because
like
it
would
be
good
to
discover
fun
fact,
it
was
gone
in
the
first
day,
but
I
don't
believe
it
was
because
the
glossary
was
so
popular
just
because
it
looks
like
the
cncf
logo,
people
just
cracked
up
thinking,
because
they
have
the
cncf
logo,
which
is
huge
and
the
glossary
one
was
like
tiny
and
I.
Think
people
like
not
Tiny
But
Regular
Size,
because
the
other
ones
are
huge
right
and
I.
Think
people
just
like
the
smaller
ones
better.
So
hopefully,
at
some
point,
they're
gonna
be
like
oh
glossary.
A
What
is
it
and
just
check
it
out?
So
at
least
that's
what
I
hope
and
so
I'll
I'm
gonna
ask
them
if
they
can
do
that,
then
in
Amsterdam,
as
well,
because,
probably
like
a
good
way
of
you
know
getting
the
word
out.
A
The
competitive,
Learning
Journey
is
stuck
so
I'm
trying
to
revive
that
again,
because
we
have
that
I.
Think
it's
a
great
idea
and
I
would
love
to
have
that
by
kubecon,
EU
and
Richard.
A
Simon
and
I
will
submit
kubecon
talk
like
a
panel
discussion
about
all
these
different
resources.
So
hopefully
we
can
like
if
that
gets
accepted.
A
It's
just
like
linking
everything
we
have,
so
it
shouldn't
take
that
long
like.
If
we
put
our
minds
to
it,
it
should
be
fairly
quickly
and
then
update
on
the
summary
table.
A
So
this
is
like
what
we've
been
actively
working
on.
Oh,
it's
live,
okay,
good,
good,
good,
good
good.
So
we
had
that
little
so
that
like
for
those
who
haven't
seen
it
it's
live
like
now.
We
need
end
users
to
actually
and
not
end
users,
projects
to
populate
all
that
that
information
that
is
here
is
coming
from.
It's
be
it's
being
pulled
from
the
landscape
yaml
and
the
the
Project's
GitHub
repository.
A
So
we
need
all
projects
to
create
a
PR,
so
they
can
kind
of
populate
all
that,
but
we're
waiting
to
kind
of
reach
out
to
cncf
and
send
it
to
the
maintainers.
So
we
actually
have
like
a
little
yeah.
What
is
this
and
I
think
like
so
I
showed
it
someone
and
they
did
not
see
they
was
like.
Oh,
this
is
crazy.
That's
like,
like
all
these
projects
are
like
it's
not.
If
you
look
like
it's
not
work,
it's
not
useful.
A
If
you
don't
filter
right,
because
it's
just
it's
just
another
landscape
right,
it's
massive
and
so
yeah
made
it
bold
and
blue
I
hope
that
is
visible.
Right,
I.
B
C
B
A
Okay,
so
that
should
be
basically
ready
to
go
so
reaching
out
to
maintainer
sets
I'm
going
so
I
went
I
mean
not
to
all,
because
it
was,
some
of
them
were
really
busy,
but
at
kubecon,
whenever
I
had
time,
I
went
to
from
Project
Pavilion
kiosk
to
kiosk
in
the
project,
Pavilion
and
kind
of
asked
containers
to
do
that
and
send
them
the
instructions
some
have
done
it
most
didn't.
So
it's
like
oh
God,
but
some
like
I
think
like
three
or
so
have
actually
submitted
up
here.
A
Next
one
is
my
painter
mailing
list,
so
I'm
gonna
ask
Chris
and
Amy
if
that's
something
that
they
can
do.
I
know
they're
very
protective
with
the
maintenance
list,
but
I
feel
like
it's
a
strong
like
I
mean
it
is
like
a
good
and
important
thing,
so
I'm
fairly
confident
that
they
will
do
it.
A
I
was
thinking
the
TOC
because
they
are
like
and
that's
something
that
you
can
just
do
as
well
like
we
can
do
like
we
don't
I
mean
we
can
actually
send
that
email,
because
I
think
that
there
are
like
important
people
there,
that
you
know
or
people
that
know
what
are
and
maintainers
as
well
they're
very
involved
in
projects.
So
hopefully
that
will
help
as
well
I.
Don't.
A
D
If
we
videoed
it
had
a
little
bit
of
a
conversation
about
what
is
about,
that
would
be
a
good
thing
to
include.
Maybe
in
some
of
the
mailings
that
go
out.
Do
you
think
could
that
be
useful?
If.
D
A
C
A
B
Yeah
I
think
without
the
maintainer
mailing
lists
it
will
be
absent
right,
it
would
be
complete,
so
that
would
be.
C
B
E
We
raise
an
issue
on
the
repo
for
each
project.
We
could
do
that
programmatically
and
at
the
maintainers
of
each
project,
so
we're
kind
of
we're
creating
the
issue
effectively
to
be
closed
off
at
some
point,
so
there's
something
to
assign
the
work
against,
and
then
we
have
a
way
of
notifying
the
maintainers
kind
of
natively
through
GitHub.
E
They
won't
necessarily,
but
there
should
be
a
code
owners
or
a
maintainer's
field
on
each
GitHub.
E
B
B
I'm,
just
thinking
as
a
project
maintainer
I
mean
getting
this.
A
We
need
to
go
through
several
channels
like
if
this
is
too
like,
like
just
sending
an
email
and
hoping
that
it
will.
Stick
is
definitely
not
so
I
think
like
yeah.
It
would
be
good
because
then
it's
like,
oh
I,
got
an
email.
Oh
I
got
this.
You
know
like
and
then
I.
B
A
A
B
I
I
think
we
can
in
all
honesty
in
two
hours
we
can
do
hundreds
like
if
we
go
through
it
like
three
people.
It's
not
a
huge
effort,
I
think
if
you
have
the
list,
that
is
the
starting
point.
That
is
the
easiest
operation
search.
A
The
landscape
has
yeah,
the
landscape,
has
the
has
all
the
Twitter
information.
E
B
A
E
C
A
A
C
I
I
do
think
this
probably
value,
though
in
making
sure
sometimes
it's
not
just
a
message,
but
it's
where
the
message
comes
from
and
a
great
way
to
get
buy-in
from
people
is
if
they
feel
that
this
is
a
really
legitimate
or
important
thing,
so
I
think
maybe
maybe
sending
something
to
the
TOC.
A
lot
of
people
subscribe
to
the
TOC
list
and
making
the
TOC
aware
of
us,
for
example,
could
be
could
be
eligible,
and
what
you
do
is
you
establish
this
as
a
like
a
this
isn't
just
another.
A
C
A
I
think
I
think
we
should
for
all
of
this.
We
should
you
know
like
what
we
did
with
the
email
for
the
maintainers
list.
You
know
like,
like
I've,
been
sending
it
to
Richard
and
and
and
Simon,
and
we
were
like
editing,
so
it's
like
yeah,
we
should
not.
None
of
this
should
be
like
a
quick
thing
same
thing
with
the
Tweet
very
few
words.
It
has
to
be
like
right
tone
and
so
on
so
I
think
like
definitely,
we
should
not
start
doing
it.
We
should
kind
of
all
agree.
This
is.
B
B
B
A
Yeah
so
yeah
I
think
like
so
basically
the
next
weeks
or
like
our
task
is
basically
to
come
up
with
all
these
things
and
then,
when
we're
happy
with
them
just
start
the
main
the
maintainer
list,
we
can
do
because
I
think,
like
that's,
really
I
feel
like
we're
we're
in
a
good
place.
We
can
share
it
with
the
team
as
well.
It
might
be
in
the
snack,
Channel
I
can
add
that
and
but
I
think
that
feels
like,
like
a
pretty
good
start,
I
feel.
A
Yeah
really
good
idea,
so
thank
you
for
that
yeah
and
then,
as
mentioned
so
we're
going
to
submit
a
panel
discussion
like
we
should
always
kind
of
think
about
ways
to
kind
of
like
stuff
that
we
can.
You
know
like
talk
about
because
it's
like
there's
always
an
audience.
It's
like
again
like
one
panel
discussion.
A
A
A
B
Okay,
this
is
okay,
yeah
I,
haven't
said
to
Libya
and
Christy
they're
super
interested.
They
see
the
value
they
would
like
to
make
it
a
reality,
and
then
they
will
support.
That's
what
they
said.
It's
a
good
site.
I
picked
them.
They
said
they
have
an
internal
meeting
this
week
and
they
will
get
back
to
me
as
soon
as
possible.
Next
week
is
like
the
one
we
get
the
news,
but
something
else
I
ask
to
them
is
cater.
B
People
come
in
and
leave
per
interest
in
the
project,
so
they
quite
like
the
idea,
and
we
might
be
extending
the
video
and
introduction
and
glossary
idea
to
that
room
where
we
can
promote
it
further
in
this
big
dating
event.
This
is
what
we
do.
Do
you
want
to
give
the
information
as
fast
as
possible
in
the
brief
briefest
manner
as
possible,
and
we
will
have
a
session
hopefully.
B
There
will
be
different,
like
15
minutes
each
three
hours
every
day.
If
you
call
six
hours.
B
We
will
we
will
accommodate
like
about
24
30
projects
a
day
max
so
two
days.
60
projects
which
will
be
quite
good,
I,
will
say,
and
I
will
definitely
spend
time
in
that
room
to
hear
about
these
projects.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
has
any
ideas.
If
you
find
this
is
a
good
idea,
I
would
love
to
hear
feedback.
B
A
A
Yeah
and
with
60
of
coupon
attendees
always
being
newbies
yeah
should
be
actually
a
standard.
You
know
because
there's
enough
people
always.
B
Exactly
and
and
I
feel
like
these
three
four
things
summer
table
glossary
the
video
and
the
speed
dating
event
really
bundles.
Well
together,
so
we
can
spread
the
word
real
good
in
this
kind
of
session.
A
Great
good
and
then
I
potentially
have
a
new
project
that
someone
is
interested
in
working
on
and
that
is
improving
the
ux
of
the
landscape,
because
it's
so
massive
and
making
it
in
a
way.
So
it's
digestible
because
it's
completely
out
of
control
and
yeah
so
making
it
more
like
you
know
interactive
where
you
kind
of
see
like
the
layers
first
and
then
you
zoom
in
you
see
things
and
then
you
kind
of
like,
instead
of
like
seeing
everything
at
the
same
time
you
kind
of
understand.
A
Oh,
these
are
the
stack
layers
like
I'm
interested
in
this
like
zoom
in
and
then
the
logos
you
would
see
when
you
kind
of
see
a
specific
section
versus
seeing
all
logos
at
the
same
time,
which
is
very
overwhelming
so
someone's
interesting
on
working
on
that.
But
it
doesn't
have
time
right
away
and
I
know
someone
in
the
cncf
who
was
interested,
who
has
a
background
and
ux
and
was
like
oh
he'd,
love
to
support
that,
where
possible
so
well,
very
much
needed
project
as
well.
A
A
Okay,
cool
and
then
some
of
the
homework
with
the
tweets
and
stuff
so
we'll
be
in
touch
just
sending
those,
probably
in
the
slack
Channel
business
value,
slap,
Channel
and
kind
of
like
we
can
collaborate
in
there
and
kind
of
see
like
make
sure
they're
they're
hit
the
right
tone
and
and
the
urgency
and
everything
and
I
don't
know
how
many
characters
it's
gonna
be
much
tougher
than
the
email
assignment,
but
it's
completely
doable,
but
it
will
require
a
team
of
Awesome,
okay
Alexander.
What
are
you
saying
interested
in
helping
yeah?
A
Okay
sounds
good
I'll.
Let
you
know
when,
when
we're
kick
on
kick
off
kicking
back
off
again,
like
we'll,
probably
take
a
little
a
few
more
weeks,
but
yeah
I'm
excited
about
that.
One.
E
A
slightly
off
topic,
but
just
before
you'll
disappear,
I'm
leaving
Cloud
reach
at
the
end
of
the
year.
Moving
on
to
pasture's
new
I'm
gonna,
try
and
rope
somebody
else
in
from
cloud
reach
so
that
we
still
have
kind
of
a
foothold
in
with
the
cncf.
That's
okay,
I
think
Catherine.
You've
spoken
to
my
colleague
Miriam
before.
A
Oh
yeah
she's
part
of
the
glossary.
E
Yeah
with
the
translation,
stuff
yeah,
so
she's
a
bit
more
free
now
and
she
doesn't
know
it
yet,
but
she's
she's
going
to
inherit
this
I
think
I'm
gonna
have
a
chat
with
her
on
Friday.
So
if
I
don't
speak
to
you
all
before,
then
I
will
probably
still
try
and
keep
in
touch
with
new
company,
but
please
be
kind
to
Miriam
when
she,
when
she
arrives.
E
So
if,
if
I'm
not
there,
that's
why
Marion's
there
yeah.
A
E
I'm
hoping
to
I'm
I'm,
hoping
to
I'm
going
to
fintech
company
small
startupy
things
so
it'll
be
a
slightly
different
change
of
pace
for
me,
so
I'm,
hoping
less
demanding
customers
and
perhaps
just
showing
focus
on
some
of
the
stuff
that
I'm
actually
really
passionate
about.
So
so
yeah.
A
E
I
expect
to
see
me
reappear
at
some
point.
That's.