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A
B
A
A
B
E
F
D
G
G
All
right
everybody
can
sign
in
here
at
the
top,
while
we
wait
give
people
one
more
minute.
D
G
H
She's
got
the
latest
the
latest
okay
cool
yeah,
so
registration,
wise
I'll
start
off
with
registration.
We
are
at
total
of
219
and
then
the
breakdown
for
that
is
for
git
ops
summit.
We've
got
211
folks
registered
and
for
spinnaker
summit
we're
at
223..
E
E
H
Okay,
so
let
me
start
over
so
total
attendees
for
cd
khan
were
at
1
210
and
for
get
up
summit.
We've
got
211
and
for
spinnaker
summit
we're
at
223.,
so
we're
almost
there
we're
almost
like
at
the
halfway
mark
inching
towards
towards
it.
So
we're
looking
pretty
good
now.
Let
me
just
really
quickly
add
up
sponsorship
sales,
because
we've
got
a
few
updates
there.
So
for
sponsorship
sales
we
are
at
a
total
of.
H
Okay,
263
500
is
either
out
for
contract
or
has
already
been
signed.
So
we,
our
goal
for
this
year,
was
200
000.
So
we
have
a
little
extra
63
500,
which
probably
will
be
less
after
spinnaker
summit
and
get
up
summit
costs
also
get
accounted
for.
So
yeah
registrations
we're
doing
really
well
sales
we're
doing
really
well.
We've
got
one
gold
sponsorship
left.
H
So
if
anybody's
interested,
please
let
me
know
so
yeah-
that's
really
the
biggest
updates
there
for
for
cdcon.
C
Jackie
breakdown,
on
the
sales,
how
many
are
members
and
how
many
are
non-members.
E
I
don't
think
we'll
cover
that
here,
but
maybe
you
can
follow
up
with
me
after
I.
I
wanted
to
just
give
an
update
as
well
on
the
cfp.
They
we
have
made
a
slight
delay.
We
were
due
to
kind
of
announce
the
schedule
and
all
the
speakers
this
friday
and
then
I
think
when
we
had
set
those
dates,
we
hadn't
realized.
It
was
good
friday
and
a
lot
of
the
team
will
be
out.
E
So
we
are
postponing
that
we
are
hoping
to
get
the
agenda
for
the
get
up
summit
out
on
thursday
and
then
we'll
follow
up
next
week
with
spinnaker
summit
and
cdcon.
So
if
you
have
submitted
a
talk
and
you're
waiting
to
hear
on
acceptance
or
otherwise
just
bear
with
us,
we
expect
those
to
go
out
early
next
week.
So
thank
you
for
your
patience.
H
G
E
So
if
I
focus
on
the
elections
at
the
top
level,
we're
looking
to
finally
on
board
some
end
user
representatives,
and
so
this
election
actually
closes,
we
had
some
candidates
and
user
representatives
are
voting
for
them.
I
believe
it
closes
today
or
tomorrow,
girls
girl's,
not
on
the
call,
I
think
she's
out
today,
but
we
expect
to
announce
those
this
week.
E
So
the
election
should
conclude
and
we
should
have
some
new
talk,
members
who
are
the
end
user
representatives
and
just
for
people
to
appreciate
we,
we
kind
of
split
out
the
elections.
So
we
know
there's
some
seats
around
the
projects
and
appointed
reps
which
have
expired.
E
I
think
we're
just
taking
a
bit
of
time
to
get
our
processes
right
and
we
did
want
to
make
sure
we
focused
on
those
end
user,
reps
first,
but
we'll
be
trying
to
get
around
to
to
those
elections
and
setting
out
a
clear
schedule
and
process
for
those
and
yeah,
and
I
think
we
can
go
into
details
on
kind
of
the
the
new
charter
and
what
those
rules
will
be,
which
is
some
changes
dan
has
been
driving
at
the
board
level.
G
A
So
well,
I
was
basically
just
wondering
passing
a
question
which
was
raised
in
my
company
but
yeah
from
the
project
standpoint.
We
are
fine
with
the
current
situation,
because,
if
needed,
we
have
direct
contacts
with
the
continuous
delivery
foundation,
talk,
etc.
A
So
it's
not
blocking
us
in
any
means.
G
G
F
F
B
At
the
project
level,
sorry,
oh,
that
did
not
mean
to
dismiss
jenkins
efforts.
Well,.
A
Basically,
you
said
what
I
was
about
to
send
so
this
year
the
program
is
different,
so
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
apply
as
a
foundation.
Yeah
jenkins
has
applied,
I'm
not
sure
whether
others
supplied
but
yeah.
We
had
some
discussions
applied.
Oh
great.
B
Other
thing
is
we're
missing
mentors
in
the
platform
I
had
pinged
steve.
He
still
needs
to
accept
his
invite
for
ortelius
and
then
tracy.
I
just
saw
you
on
there
if
you
could
find
or
get
steve
to
send
me.
Email
addresses
for
the
three
other
mentors
that
you
have
for
your
project,
so
I
can
get
them
added,
I'm
going
through
the
the
project
page
in
github
right
now
and
then
trying
to
compare
it
names
to
the
list
that
we
have.
B
We
do
have
24
people
in
the
system,
which
is
good,
but
I
know
that
we're
missing,
probably
at
least
half
a
dozen,
if
not
more
so,
be
good
to
get
that
closed
out.
B
A
Yeah,
I
can
do
that,
but
yeah
for
mentors.
There
is
no
strict
deadline,
so
you
can
add
or
remove
mentors
basically
at
any
moment
until
the
end
of
the
program,
it's
just
better
to
have
as
many
mentors
as
possible
for
the
time
of
slot
requests,
because
it
will
be
one
of
the
data.
H
Points
and
then,
along
the
same
vein
of
g
sock,
one
of
the
things
that
tara,
kara
and
I
are
doing
is
we
are
putting
together
a
testimonial
video
to
help
entice
students
to
join
or
to
select
the
cdf
as
an
organization.
H
So
I
reached
out
on
the
slack
channel
to
ask
for
testimonials
from
2020,
either
from
the
students
or
from
the
mentors.
If
folks
want
to
provide
a
like,
it
should
be
under
30
seconds.
To
be
quite
honest,
a
video
snippet
or
a
written
testimonial
send
that
over
to
me
by
friday
april,
2nd,
which
is
when
I
will
be
stitching,
all
those
little
videos
together
and
then
we
are
going
to
use
that
video
to
do
some
social
media
promotion.
H
Yep
so
just
to
clarify
this
is
only
for
folks
who
have
been
mentors
or
students
from
2020,
not
from
2021
or
past
years.
A
Currently,
in
the
jinx
project,
we
have
two
videos
under
review
and
five
testimonials
from
students,
and
hopefully
we
will
have
more
because
we
want
to
publish
them
on
our
website
as
well.
So
cara
delamar
is
working
on
that
and
you
will
submit
it
until
the
deadline,
cool.
G
B
G
Yeah,
sorry,
my
dogs
are
barking,
so
I
waited
an
extra
second
to
unmute
right
there,
they're
still
going,
hopefully
they're
not
too
loud
in
the
background.
A
Yeah
it
was
me
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
the
status
of
the
projects
on
this
landscape
because
yeah
again,
I'm
rather
a
messenger
there.
But
I
would
like
to
understand
the
status
because
if
you
open
this
landscape
page,
you
can
see
that
there
are
four
founding
projects
and
all
of
them
are
listed.
As
graduated
projects,
though
only
jenkins
has
passed
the
graduation
process
in
the
cdf
so
far,
and
we
actually
wanted
to
understand
what
is
the
source
of
truth,
the
landscape
or
the
real
status
of
the
projects.
G
E
A
Yeah
I
just
we
just
had
some
people
ex
who
navigated
to
this
page
and
got
confused
by
the
data
there
and
yeah.
The
same
question
is
about
categorization.
A
So
again,
if
you
open
lens
cape,
there
are
two
categories:
one
is
pipeline
orchestration,
another
one
is
continuous
integration
and
the
the
current
state
of
the
jenkins
x,
spinnaker
and
tecton
are
considered
pipeline
orchestration
engines.
While
jenkins
is
considered
as
continuous
integration
engine,
though
it
also
has
full
pipeline
orchestration
capabilities.
A
Because
yeah
orchestration
agents
and
cia
yeah
all
projects
within
cdf
support
all
these
capabilities.
G
A
Was
inconvenienced
in
declaration
as
well
as
jenkins,
but
then
it
was
moved
to
pipeline
orchestration
and
for
jenkins.
Specifically
when
we
were
working
on
genki
student
zero
in
2016,
we
explicitly
changed
the
terminology
and
guidelines
for
the
project,
so
it's
listed
as
an
automation
server,
not
as
continuous
integration
server,
because
jenkins
addresses
other
needs,
and
we
don't
consider
jenkins.
As
on
the
continuous
integration
server
in
the
project.
G
B
I'm
not
an
expert
in
the
platform
marky
and
I
had
started
to
look
into
this
stuff
and
there's
a
bunch
of
backstage
outstanding
issues.
I
just
pulled
it
up
now
that
it
is
technically
on
my
plate,
so
I
will
take
this
action
item
to
go
dig
into
this.
E
Yeah-
and
one
thing
I
I
do
recall
we
in
that
discussion-
we
had
had
that
that
that
issue
came
up
and
it
you
know
it's
not
just
jenkins,
but
there
were
multiple
tools
that
felt
they
could
be
in
different
boxes,
and
you
know
gitlab
was
the
other
example
of
you
know
the
fact
it's
not
inversion
control,
but
only
shown
in
pipeline
orchestration.
It
definitely
right.
It's
I
mean
it's
just
people.
C
The
cncf
landscape
only
allows
you
to
be
in
one
box
and
we
followed
the
same
exact
rules
of
the
cnc
landscape.
So,
for
example,
we
could
put
deploy
hub
in
like
all
of
these
boxes,
if
we
really
wanted
to,
because
we
could
call
a
container
security
tool,
and
so
we
could
add
ourselves
this
container
security.
C
So
we
were
trying
to
be
careful
about
trying
to
what
it's
the
primaries.
What
is
the
the
tools
primary
solution
and
we
were
following
the
cncf's
rules
and
how
to
build
it
out
and
dan
worked
with
me
on
putting
this.
C
Many
dance
yeah,
no
dan
dan
and
I
worked
on
this.
He
pretty
much
built
out
the
back
the
framework
for
it.
I
worked
on
initially
trying
to
build
out
the
the
categories
we
passed
it
off
to
kk.
He
took
a
look
at
it.
The
toc
looked
at
it
at
that
point
in
time
agreed
that
we
would
follow
the
cncf
rules
and
then
came
up
with
these
categories.
It's
really
easy
to
change.
It's
all.
You
know
in
yaml,
so
you
can
create
your
own
pull
request
to
update
any
of
this.
C
I
don't
see
any
problem
with
getting
rid
of
the
continuous
integration
category
doesn't
matter
to
me,
but
I
do.
I
would
say
that
if
git
lab
wants
to,
for
example,
if
gitlab
felt
like
they
should
be
in
version
control
and
they
should
be
in
orchestration
and
they
should
be
in
deployment,
it's
going
to
clutter
up
the
landscape.
I
think
that
the
guidelines
from
the
cncf
to
say
you
have
to
choose
your
primary.
B
I
I
worry
about
oversimplifying
so
perhaps
there's
another
mechanism
that
we
could
use.
E
A
On
a
gitlab
location
but
yeah
for
ci
cd
engines
and
for
automation,
servers
we
could
just
recategorize
the
projects
because
yeah
there
are
clearly
integration
and
sorry,
clear,
orchestration
engines
like
spinnaker
and
jenkins
eggs.
They
do
not
do
cia
cd
on
their
own,
so
they
could
be
in
this
category.
A
For
example,
tecton
at
least
in
my
opinion
is
rather
pipeline
engine,
not
an
orchestration
engine
but
yeah.
I
guess
they
may
have
different
opinion
and
yeah
in
the
case
of
jenkins,
again
a
sports
orchestration
server
or
pipeline
engine.
But
in
our
case
I
would
rather
call
it
a
generic
automation,
server
organization.
C
Because
it
does
look
for
that,
but
yeah,
it's
super
easy
oleg
to
make
changes
to
it
and
just
add
stuff
or
modify
it.
A
Okay,
yeah,
maybe
one
question
about
category
is
so
if
a
company
has
multiple
products,
is
it
fine
to
list
all
of
them.
A
Yeah
right
for
one
product
but,
for
example,
at
columbus
we
have
different
products.
B
Yeah,
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
was
becoming
controversial.
Is
people
were
like
taking
individual
sort
of
named
product
spaces
and
scattering
them
everywhere,
but,
like
I
said,
I
think
we
need
to
figure
out
a
good
system
for
this,
because
it's
not
actually,
I
think,
ultimately
useful
to
convey
to
people
who
are
looking
at
it
that
oh
well.
This
is
just
a
reversion
control
system,
or
this
is
just
an
orchestrator.
A
But
I'm
happy
to
just
create
you
could
go
to
automation
server
because
it's
not
on
the
jenkins.
There
are
other
tools
which
would
fit
in
this
category
better.
B
Well
and
the
other
thing
too,
I
think
it.
We
should
also
review
this
in
line
with,
like
the
the
definition
stock
that
we've
been
working
on
so
anyway,
you
know
can
drive
that
to
at
least
a
reasonable.
You
know
0.9
version
or
whatever
and
start
doing
some
alignment.
I
think
that
will
help
too
and
actually,
then,
if
we
can
somehow
make
a
reasonable
sort
of
visual
connection
between
those
two
things
to
help
people
kind
of
explore
this
space
a
little
bit
more
effectively.
B
A
Yeah,
I
will
follow
up
separately
for
multiple
products,
because
you
know,
I
think
we
definitely
need
to
agree
but
yeah
for
first
two
items.
I
can
send
the
request
now.
E
Yeah
awesome,
I
think,
with
the
multiple
products
you
know,
every
company's
got
multiple
products
you
just
have
to
have
someone
like
ibm
and
they'd
be
able
to
have
something
everywhere.
So
I
agree:
there's
a
balance
to
be
had
in
kind
of
having
all
the
different
ones,
and
maybe
you
know
encouraging
folks
to
to
focus
on
one
area.
E
C
Something
like
you,
I
always
thought
it
would
be
fair
for
if
you
have
like
like
cloud
b
cloud
beast
has
you
know
several
products
that
fit
that
span
this
all
of
this
and
why
not
allow
them
to
have
each
the
products
that
they
do
provide
in
each
category?
C
E
E
Just
so
folks
know,
steve
at
jfrog
he's
been
syncing
closely
with
the
cncf
and
we're
looking
to
do
some
tighter
integration
with
their
landscape,
so
at
the
very
first
level,
and
there's
probably
going
to
be
a
link
out
from
the
cncf
landscape
to
the
cdf1
and
then
we're
going
to
keep
exploring
options
to
integrate
them
tighter.
So,
on
the
one
hand
we
have
to
be
a
bit
mindful
of
their
policies,
especially
if
we
look
to
integrate
or
replace
the
whole
cicd
box
with
our
landscape.
E
But
on
the
other
hand,
I
think
we
should
also
be
keeping
in
mind
kind
of
our
users
and
helping
give
them
clarity
or
from
the
50-foot
view
of
the
of
the
landscape.
G
E
E
G
Would
publish
a
little
open
source
tool
it
would
show
up
with
like
head
count
of
a
hundred
thousand
in
revenue
of
like
trillions
of
dollars,
right
just
tied
everything
back
to
the
same
company.
So
we
would
always
like
to
brag
about
that
how
much
revenue
our
little
tool
that
one
person
worked
on
had
according
to
the
landscape,
but
it's
a
tough
problem.
C
G
Looks
like
andrea
has
to
leave
right
jenkins,
contributor
summit
next,
one.
A
It's
a
quick
update
from
the
previous
discussion,
so
we
have
confirmed
june
25th
as
a
date
for
the
contributor
summit.
We
still
work
on
assembly
agenda,
but
we
will
definitely
have
a
lot
of
discussions
about
evolution
of
jenkins's
technical
roadmap.
A
Most
likely
we
will
have
some
user
representation
there
and
we
also
plan
to
have
interrupt
probability
topics,
so
we
already
have
stories
related
to
tickton
and
jenkins
integration.
We
also
have
three
discussions
with
the
jenkins
next
project,
because
jenkins,
x,
3,
is
about
to
include
jenkins
again
and
we
want
to
make
it
a
part
of
the
summit.
E
I
think
that's
great
and
like
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
like
definitely
within
cdf.
The
other
couple
of
projects
that
are
getting
a
lot
of
interest
in
conversations
are
the
jenkins
templating
engine
and
jenkins
operator.
A
We
contacted
contributors
and
we
hope
to
have
them
as
a
part
of
organizing
committee
so
that
we
have
representation
from
these
sub
projects
as
well.
So
again,
it's
a
community
event
which
I
hope
to
get
as
many
adopters
and
the
vendors
as
possible,
represented
there
and
yeah.
I
started
reaching
out
to
stakeholders.
B
Quick
stupid
question.
Sorry
back
to
the
landscape,
oh
like
is
or
whoever
is
it
just
jenkins,
or
is
it
also
jenkins
x
that
are
graduated?
I.
A
A
So
if
you
talk
about,
let's
say
jenkins
pipeline
templated
engine,
whether
it's
a
subproject
or
not,
it's
not
created
in
our
opinion.
At
the
moment,.
G
Right
cdf
lf
cla
guidelines
so
who.
A
A
Yeah
so
yeah
in
jenkins,
we
have
finished
transition
of
the
trademark
to
the
linux
foundation,
and
now
we
would
like
to
clean
up
our
contributor
license
agreement,
because
our
contributor
license
agreement
still
points
to
software
in
public
interest
or
proving
some
real
organization,
and
we
have
a
very
tedious
cla
process
right
now
and
yeah.
It's
seriousness
is
compensated
by
the
fact
that
we
apply
it
on
the
for
maintainers.
A
We
need
special
permissions
and
I'm
not
sure
how
is
it
sustainable
from
the
linux
foundation
standpoint
and
we
would
like
to
streamline
our
cla
process
so
that
it's
compliant
with
the
best
practices
and
the
requirements
with
the
radio.
Unfortunately,
I
was
unable
to
find
the
guidelines,
so
I
wonder
whether
anyone
has
pointers
to
these
materials.
If
not,
I
will
just
bring
up
the
question
to
the
ideas
foundation,
legal.
G
B
B
A
Actually
so
yeah
in
our
case,
we
have
cla
and
company
cla,
but
again
not
for
code
contributors,
but
only
for
maintainers
with
advanced
permissions.
So
we
would
rather
like
to
keep
using
this
model
and
we
can
easily
apply
easy
cla
to
that.
So
it's
rather
question
whether
it
would
be
enough
because
we
had
a
holy
war
about
dco,
because
the
impression
we
have
in
the
community
that
even
dco
creates
a
lot
of
concerns,
why
it
doesn't
really
answer
the
legal
side
of
the
question
about
translation
of
payroll
attention,
trademark,
etc.
A
So
yeah
right
now,
I'm
not
sure
what
we
would
do
at
the
same
time
with
regards
to
agreements
so
tipton
cla
current
is
currently
similar
to
junkie
silly.
Basically,
the
only
difference
is
that
in
public
interest
is
replaced
by
the
linux
foundation
and
we
will
start
from
setting
up
the
same
process
while
figuring
out
who
is
legal.
What
would
be
the
expectation.
A
G
Yeah,
you
should
definitely
reach
out
to
lf
legal.
I
don't
know
that
they're
going
to
want
to
give
you,
you
know
they
normally
always
say
they
can't
give
you
actual
advice.
They
can
just
explain
things
well,.
A
So,
let's
see
we
already
got
some
feedback
from
andrew
greenberg,
who
is
subscribed
to
the
jinx
developer,
magentest
and
yeah.
Maybe
we'll
find
additional
guidelines
well
somewhere
in
the
documentation.
G
Yeah,
I
think
techcon
was
one
of
the
first
people
on
board
to
easy
cla
and
it
took
some
hand
holding
it
wasn't
quite
as
easy
as
the
name
described,
but
I
think
it's
it's
been
quite
a
while
since
then.
So
it's
probably
easier
now,
because
I
think
quite
a
few
projects
have
onboarded
to
it.
E
G
E
The
last
thing
I
was
just
going
to
mention
is
that
there
is
a
webinar
on
easy
cla
running
on
april
8th,
so
that
might
be
a
a
good
place
as
well
to
see
if
they
this
general
guideline,
so
how
you
can
think
through
the
decision
making
and
get
the
latest
on
how
easy,
whether
there's
an
easy,
easy
cla.