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C
Thank
you
very
much
chairman
on
6.6.
I
need
to
make
a
declaration
council
has
appointed
place
design
as
a
consultant
in
regard
to
the
southport
pda
review
and
I
received
donations
from
place
design
in
2011
and
14
and
in
2016
the
amount
was
refunded
in
full
but
still
counts.
So
I'm
declaring
that
I
received
those
funds,
but
I'm
seeking
permission
to
participate
in
making
a
decision
about
the
matter.
I've
had
no
conversation
with
place
design
about
this
or
any
other
matter.
This
term
and
I'm
interested
in
the
progress
of
the
southport
priority
development
area.
B
D
B
6.6,
yet
all
right,
councillor
paulina.
E
Thank
you.
Chair
item
6.3,
the
heritage
overlay
provisions.
E
I
have
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest
here:
old
burley
theatre,
arcade
or
the
deluxe
theatre,
as
mentioned
in
the
report
three
times
and
in
the
past
I've
made
a
declaration
where
my
brother
is
the
managing
agent
of
the
old
burley
theatre
arcade
and
is
still
the
managing
agent,
and
so
he
will
make
a
gain
from
that.
So
I'm
going
to
actually
leave
the
room
as
we
discuss
6.3.
B
B
Okay,
that's
good
any
other
counsellor,
any
other
conflicts
of
interest.
B
All
right,
so
we've
got
a
number
of
start
items,
so
the
confirmation
minutes
can
remain
starred
council
of
awesome
6.1.
Do
you
want
to
unstar
that?
Thank
you.
B
B
So
that
I
didn't
think
so,
but
we
might
be
able
to
thought
that
there
was
maybe
we'll
just
unstar
that
and
double
check
before
we
get
to
it
six
point:
six
canceller
gates,
unstarred
and
6.7
is
already
unstarred.
That's
a
very
unsuccessful
list
of
start
items
counsellors.
B
B
Six
someone
like
to
move
those
two
by
councillor
and
jones
seconded
by
cancer
o'neill
all
in
favor
against
carried
all
right.
Let's
just
go
to
six
point.
C
B
Predominantly
the
only
site-specific
things
are
where
there's
an
approval
that's
been
taken
up,
of
which
sorry
the
theater,
I
don't
think
I
didn't
see
it
in
there
and
it
hasn't
been
acted
on
as
yet
yeah.
So
apologies.
F
G
Cracked
through
the
chair,
the
deluxe
theater
that
isn't
cited
in
the
city
plan
minor
amendment
eight,
it
is
in
relation
to
cadastral
changes
and
also
acting
upon.
I
meant
sorry
approvals
that
have
occurred
and
realigning
zonings
where
required.
So,
as
the
chair
said,
given
that
the
deluxe
theater
approval
has
not
occurred,
we
will
not
have
undertaken
a
minor
amendment
for
that.
B
C
A
Council,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman,
and
I
think
councilman
jones
has
done
us
a
service
by
allowing
us
to
have
this
conversation,
but
I
wonder
whether
we
can
get
clarification
between
now
and
full
council
whether
an
exemption
applies,
because
this
is
effectively
adopting
a
change
to
the
planning
scheme
and,
in
my
view,
notwithstanding
the
fact
that
the
early
arcade
might
have
been
mentioned.
B
D
Sorry,
chairman,
on
page
229,
I
noticed
that
there's
a
map
that
indicates
the
relates
to
the
old
jail
at
the
old
narendra,
which
is
at
marine
country
paradise,
park,
lands
and
I've
previously
declared
a
conflict.
In
that
I
am
a
friend
of
the
president
and
a
member
of
the
committee
of
the
country
paradise
association,
at
which
site
this
is.
I
think
that
nexus
is
so
slim
that
I
am
just
opening
it
for
any
concern
that
counselors
might
have,
but
I
hadn't
even
noticed
it's
in
the
text
of
the
document.
B
B
A
So,
for
example,
there
was
a
suspicion
in
the
community
or
an
understanding
that
supermarkets
would
not
be
permitted
in
this
a
centre
zone
in
varsity
lakes
if
their
gfa
exceeded
1500
square
metres,
and
it
was
really
important
for
me
to
work
with
those
concerned
residents
to
explain
that
the
1500
square
meters
didn't
relate
to
a
limit,
but
rather
a
threshold.
That
council
applies
to
put
an
increased
burden
on
the
applicant
to
satisfy
us
that
we
would
achieve
a
good
development
outcome
and
not
an
inferior
development
outcome.
A
Mr
chairman,
I
acknowledge
the
commercial
interests
of
the
iga
and
qic,
but
I
was
most
interested
in
what
residents
had
to
say,
and
residents
expressed
to
me
lots
of
concerns
around
amenity
issues
and
the
way
in
which
the
supermarket
might
impact
the
quiet
enjoyment
that
they
presently
have
in
varsity
lakes,
city
offices.
I
have
to
say,
mr
chairman,
were
absolutely
sincere
in
their
assessment
of
this
development
application.
They
didn't
accept
coles
at
face
value.
A
They
interrogated
the
original
development
application
and
insisted
on
some
major
changes
to
the
way
in
which
traffic
would
be
routed
around
that
development,
but
then
also
in
response
to
resident
submissions,
a
number
of
strengthened
conditions
were
proposed
to
address
the
genuine
community
concerns,
specifically
and
mr
chairman,
just
for
the
benefit
of
those
who
might
be
listening
in.
I
just
want
to
document
in
some
of
the
ways
city
offices
have
protected
amenity
while
discharging
their
obligation
to
support
development.
That's
consistent
with
the
planning
scheme
and
the
planning
act.
A
Mr
chairman,
the
new
proposed
conditions
of
approval
will
now
limit
the
operating
hours
of
the
proposed
development
monday
through
saturday
to
between
7
a.m
and
9
00
p.m,
and
on
sunday,
9
a.m
to
6
p.m,
at
the
liquorland
9
to
9
and
on
sunday,
9
to
8
and
the
speciality
tendencies
which
I
think
there
are
two
or
three
of
will
operate
only
between
seven
and
nine,
mr
chairman,
inside
a
centre
zone
that
is
actually
a
very,
very
conservative
set
of
operating
hours,
and
I
want
to
thank
city
offices
for
conditioning
those
in
response
to
community
feedback.
A
Mr
chairman,
there
were
also
concerns
around
the
building
and
plant
and
the
way
in
which
that
they
may
be
screened.
Residents
didn't
want
an
industrial
facade
greeting
them,
as
they
stepped
out
of
their
front
doors.
I'm
happy
to
report
that
the
condition
one
of
the
conditions
of
approval
is
that
all
of
that
plant
effectively
be
recessed
into
the
roof
and
completely
screened
from
the
street.
I
think
that's
a
great
outcome
and
coles
have
also
undertaken
to
create
quite
a
large
public
art
installation
on
the
facade
as
well
to
soften
the
look
of
the
building.
A
Mr
chairman,
delivery
of
this
proposal
will
eliminate
some
on-street
car
parking
spaces
and
we
know
in
varsity
lakes.
Car
parking
is
at
an
absolute
premium,
but
what
the
development
does
do
with
the
proposed
conditions
is
deliver.
I
think
169
car
parking
spaces
under
the
undercroft
and,
unlike
the
present
development,
the
present
use
of
the
site,
those
car
parking
spaces
will
be
publicly
accessible
and,
while
coles
have
stated,
they
have
no
plans
to
restrict
public
access
to
the
car
park
should,
in
some
distant
future
that
become
an
operational
need.
A
Mr
chairman,
I
also
spoke
to
some
residents
who
are
concerned
that
the
character
of
bellevue
drive
may
change
and
that
there
would
be
the
removal
of
quite
beautiful,
streetscaping
and
median
gardens.
I'm
happy
to
report
that
that
will
not
be
the
case.
Access
to
the
car
park
for
customers
and
the
servicing
and
loading
area
will
be
via
two
new
crossovers
and
customers
and
service
vehicles
will
not
be
required
to
pass
the
southern
boundary
of
the
site.
So
that's
the
cul-de-sac
at
the
end
of
bellevue
drive
where
those
gardens
are.
A
A
I
don't
want
to
say
difficult,
but
by
making
coals
adhere
to
a
very
stringent
and
intentional
set
of
development
approval
conditions
we
can
protect
amenity
while
supporting
on
balance.
What
is
a
reasonable
development
outcome?
And
lastly,
mr
chairman,
just
on
the
issue
of
traffic,
a
lot
of
people
worry
about
the
amount
of
traffic
through
varsity
lakes,
which
doesn't
have
a
front
door
right.
People
have
to
come
through
narrow
streets
in
order
to
arrive
in
the
cbd,
in
my
view,
and
having
spoken
with
city
offices.
A
A
Thank
you
for
your
indulgence.
I
thought
it
really
important
that
I
speak
into
a
recording
the
concerns
of
residents
and
demonstrate
to
the
community
that
we've
addressed
their
concerns
and
supported
a
development
that
we're
required
to
under
the
planning
act
and
also
the
planning
scheme.
Thank
you.
D
No,
that's
fine
I'd
just
like
to
acknowledge
councillor
voices,
a
review
of
the
development
proposal
and
the
evaluation
of
it,
and
welcome
that.
I
also
wanted
to
point
out
on
page
69
of
the
report
there's
some
the
submitter
maps,
which
are
presented
in
a
very
different
format
than
what
we've
normally
had.
D
I've
had
concerns
about
those
submitted
maps
in
the
past,
where
it's
quite
feasible
to
determine
people's
individual
homes,
and
this
with
the
black
backing
just
gives
a
distr
spatial
distribution
of
the
submitters
and
their
responses,
and
I
think
that's
a
good
step
that
the
director
has
introduced
thanks.
Chairman.
B
Oh,
look
at
you
go
nick
in
week,
one
okay,
any
other
speakers
for
or
against
council
bulls.
You
happen
to
close.
A
Mr
chairman,
I'll
just
close
by
saying
that
one
of
my
bug
bears
as
a
councillor
since
first
elected
is
the
proliferation
of
trolleys
in
lakes
on
footpaths.
And
what
have
you
I
hate,
those
I
hate
them
trolleys
happy
to
say
that
coles
have
acceded
to
the
strong
view
of
city
offices,
myself
that
we
need
to
first.
B
A
What
I
say
classic
so
I
just
just
wanted
to
do
that,
and-
and
just
close
by
saying,
thank
you
to
the
city
officers,
who
were
really
sincere
about
interrogating
this
development
application.
B
Thank
you,
council
of
ulster.
I
understand.
They've
also
met
with
councillor
mcdonald
on
site
on
in
relation
to
the
next
item,
as
well.
So
new
introduction
from
the
offices
to
to
see
the
local
council
on
site,
which
is
good
so
all
right,
we'll
take
the
vote
all
in
favor
against
carried.
B
H
Thanks
mr
chair
look,
I
must
thank
the
council
officers
for
coming
out
on
site
and,
and
I
think
that
we
could
see
firsthand
the
issues
we
did
have
15
objections
in
in
regards
to
this
or
submissions
and
the
community
were
very
concerned
about
about
this
child
care
centre,
the
first
one
that
was
approved.
H
We
had
oh,
how
many
children
there
were
35
children
in
the
first
one,
and
this
this
particular
application
is
51
children.
My
the
concerns
that
I
raised
were
the
traffic
concerns.
H
The
officers
have
addressed
this,
where
it's
located,
it's
right
on
a
pedestrian
crossing,
it's
right
next
to
the
eleanor
primary
school
which
have
around
about
a
thousand
students
and-
and
there
was
concerns
expressed
to
me-
by
both
the
school
and
surrounding
residents
in
regards
to
the
added
concern
of
traffic
and
the
extra
children
in
this
area
with
the
next
door
neighbours
it's
about
the
noise,
because
I
know
with
the
school
they've
very,
been
very
accommodating,
with
nearby
residents
to
try
and
block
out
any
of
that
noise.
H
H
However,
I
would
like
to
see
if
someone
if,
if
a
councillor
could
support
previously,
we
had
their
operating
hours
from
7
30
to
5
30..
B
B
Council
mcdonald,
I'm
I'm
happy
to
move
this,
and
if
I
have
a
second,
then
we
can
probably
try
and
work
to
see
if
there's
something
can
be
done.
But
my
early
inclination
is
that
it's
going
to
be
extremely
difficult,
I
think
to
say
that
they
should
only
start
at
7.
30
would
be
my
current
view.
So
so
can
you
just
talk
me
through
in
in
relation
to
a
b
and
c
that
are
on
the
screen.
B
H
H
Yeah
to
be
used
only
between
the
hours
of
7,
30
and
5
30.
B
Okay,
well,
I'm
as
the
mover
I'm
happy
to
adopt
that
in
to
be
7
30
to
5
30.,
and
I
think
council
boards
is
there
already,
but
you're
happy
with
that
second
year
in
in
reality,
the
way
that
the
children
all
arrive.
They
generally
aren't
undertaking
outdoor
play
within
that
first
part
of
the
arrival
anyway,
until
there's
a
few
kids
there
and
then
they'll
move
out
so.
H
Look
onside,
we
did
discuss
about
the
noise
and
I
know
you
know
the
officers
addressed
the
issues
that
I
raised
and
especially
with
the
waste
management,
because
it's
going
to
be
very
difficult.
You
know
for
the
collection,
the
noise
you
know
with
the
outdoor
play
area,
but
I'm
sure
that
if
we
can
change
those
times,
that
would
go
a
long
way
of
addressing
some
of
the
issues
to
the
residency.
C
Thank
you
just
a
question
through
you
chairman.
If
the
officers
are
aware
of
any
noise
complaints
that
have
been
lodged
over
recent
times
since
the
35
children
were
on
site.
B
I
Mr
chen
is
interested
on
page
132,
where
it
talks
about
car
parking,
and
it's
talking
about
the
proposed
stackers
that
it
suggests
technical
specifications
have
been
provided
for
an
example
stuck
a
system.
So
if
I
could
just
get
clarity,
what
that
means
like?
Is
it
locked
in
that
they're
going
to
use
a
stacker
system
and
what
one
that
is,
or
we've
made
a
decision
on
the
car
parking
based
off
a
example
stacker.
B
E
There
are
four
double
stackers
proposed
for
staff
that
you
may
see
on
the
plan
there
that
are
at
the
rear
of
the
site.
We've
got
some
detail
from
the
actual
manufacturer
of
that
stacker.
It's
an
independent
stacker,
so
they'll
be
both
able
to
be
utilized
independently
officers
had
a
little
bit
of
concern
with
the
safety
aspects
of
having
stackers
around
a
child
care
center,
and
we
we
probe
them.
E
On
a
bit
of
that
detail,
I
can
report
that
the
stackers
will
all
have
a
turnkey
operating
system,
so
you
actually
need
to
be
standing
outside
the
stacker
holding
the
key
to
remove
the
platform,
there's
also
sensors
on
the
platform
that
are
required.
Well,
that
will
stop
the
the
platform
moving
immediately.
E
If
there's
any
any
obstructions
below
or
above
and
an
emergency
stop
button
in
case
of
any
emergency
event,
so
the
stackers
we've
got
are
dedicated
only
for
staff
they'll
be
signed
as
such
and
will
not
be
permitted
to
be
used
by
parents
or
visitors
to
the
child
care
centre.
D
E
I
I
E
B
Just
my
my
only
concern
with
the
local
location
of
the
stackers-
and
I
assume
this
is
right-
chris-
is
that
the
the
stacker
that
is
actually
under
the
building,
probably
is
what's
leading
it
to
have
a
very
high
first
floor
slab.
Is
that
the
case.
E
Might
be
able
to
talk
to
that
one
chairman,
the
underside
of
the
slab
from
natural
ground.
E
Off
is
is
3.5
meters
from
ground
level
to
the
underside
of
that
slab.
E
E
But
you
may
see
in
the
recommended
conditions
from
offices
that
we
had
a
bit
of
a
concern
with
a
light
spill
and
an
amenity
aspect
of
that
and
we've
recommended
that
they
bring
the
apron
down
right
around
the
edge
of
that
undercroft
area
by
0.4
of
a
meter
400
millimeters
to
improve
that
light
spill.
But
it
didn't
affect
the
height
of
that.
B
First
floor
because
councils-
I
don't
know
if
you've
seen
but
these
buildings,
where
there's
a
very
high
first
level
slab
in
this
illustration.
On
page
128,
you
see
a
nice
neat
concrete
painted
white
slab
but
of
course,
in
reality,
there's
all
manner
of
services
that
sit
under
that
and
they
look
pretty
horrific
from
the
street.
So
if
there's
ever
anything,
we
can
do
to
sleeve
it
or
hide
it.
H
Oh,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
Yes,
on
site,
we
discussed
about
the
car
parking
and
the
access.
H
I
was
very
concerned
about
cars
going
in
there
and
car
parks
being
full
and
people
backing
out
onto
the
road
or
that
they
could
be
lined
up.
You
know
going
in
to
get
the
car
parks
and
with
the
conditions
you
know,
the
officers
said
that
they
do
have
to
come
out
forwards
and
not
back
out
onto
the
onto
the
road
which
would
be
making
it
much
safer
and
with
the
car
stackers.
I'm
I'm
certainly
not
a
fan
of
car
stackers
I've.
H
We
hear
so
many
stories
now
of
car
stackers
breaking
down.
They
can't
get
parks.
People
then
park
out
on
the
road
and-
and
I
think
in
a
child
care
center,
that
that
is
of
a
great
concern
to
have
car
car
stackers
there
with
the
lighting.
I'm
very
pleased
that
the
offices,
when
we
met
on
site
it
was
raised
about
the
lighting.
H
I
have
an
issue
in
19th
avenue.
If
anyone
drives
down
there
overnight,
the
child
care
centre
that
was
approved
by
council
opposite
the
palm
beach
state
school.
It's
lit
up
like
a
christmas
tree
and,
and
it
looks
terrible
and
and
it's
causing
problems
with
surrounding
residents,
so
you
know
those
issues
certainly
have
been
addressed,
but
the
offices
were
very
good
in
taking
up
the
concerns
that
I
raised
in
regards
to
the
parking
and
some
of
the
nuisance
issues
and
some
of
the
other
issues
that
I
raised.
H
Thank
you
by
the
way
that
original
application
was
a
single
story
dwelling
and
this
particular
application
is
a
two
story.
B
B
C
C
Those
areas
that
are
shaded
now
as
a
local
heritage
place.
C
J
Yeah
sure
so
through
the
chair,
councillor
gates,
you're,
referring
to
the
purple
hatching
around
well.
C
J
J
B
J
Again,
it
depends
on
the
nature
of
the
proposal
so
depending
on
what
yes,
well,
that
that
particular
facility
is
a
council
owned
facility.
So
it
would
depend
on
the
type
of
the
development
which
is
unknown
depending
on
the
type
of
development.
You
go
to
the
tables
of
assessment,
which
will
then
determine
whether
you're,
whether
it's
a
code
accessible
or
an
impact
accessible
application,
or
if
there's
no
impact
on
the
cultural
heritage.
Significance
of
the
place
by
the
proposal.
J
B
So,
for
example,
the
the
early
theater-
we
all
have
lived
the
experience
on
that
journey
over
the
last
few
years,
the
heritage
management
plan
or
whatever
it's
called.
I
can't
think
of
the
conservation
nation
management
plan
management
plan.
It's
expected
say
in
relation
to
that,
one
that
the
development
occurs
consistent
with
that
plan
in
relation
to
the
rifle
range,
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
conservation
management
plan
for
the
rifle
range.
J
Through
the
chair,
there
is
no
conservation
management
plan
yet
for
the
pimpama
rifle
range
right,
it's
been
assessed
as
meeting
the
heritage
thresholds
as
per
the
criteria
in
the
gold
coast,
local
heritage
register,
so
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
can't
recite
the
reasons
for
the
listing,
but
we're
quite
happy
to
provide
councillor
gates
with
the
heritage
criteria
that
that
site
met
to
become
listed.
I
don't.
C
Quite
understand
to
that
one,
to
my
knowledge,
there's
nothing
there.
It's
just
a
former
site,
and
so
I
I
mean
I
know
we
adopted
it,
but
I've
I've
never
had
a
great
understanding
of
this.
I
know
we're
required
by
the
state
to
have
a
heritage
register,
but
it
really
concerns
me
that
this
limits
opportunity
for
this
is
the
south
coast,
restoration,
society,
site
and-
and
it
just
concerns
me
and
also
with
the
deluxe
theater.
I
thought
that
we
or
the
council
not
me.
B
D
Chairman
just
to
offer
a
practical,
a
practical
example
with
page
229,
which
is
the
old
meringue
lockup,
which
is
at
country
paradise.
D
Since
that
was
determined
some
years
ago,
council
went
ahead
and
built
the
adventure
playground
just
immediately
adjacent
to
this,
and
the
only
restriction
was
that
the
fencing
for
the
construction
had
to
be
carefully
located.
So
it's
not
the
impact
upon
the
heritage
values
of
the
the
building
and
it
really
had
no
practical
limitation
or
imposition
on
what
we
went
ahead
and
did,
and
I'm
sure
that
would
differ
from
site
to
site.
But
that's
just
a
an
example
of
how
it
panned
out.
C
B
I
K
Through
the
chair,
I've
just
pulled
up
the
statements
of
significance,
which
is
on
our
website.
It
meets
several
criterion,
but
basically
it's
a
document.
That's
seven
pages
long
that
talks
about
the
elements
that
are
of
significance,
but
it
talks
about
the
criterion
that
it
meets,
is
heritage,
important
importance,
rarity
potential
information
and
class
characteristics.
So
I'll
just
see
if
I
can
pull
out
a
key
few
items
in
there,
so
it's
about
where
its
importance
lies.
So
it's
basically
it
was.
K
It
was
important
in
terms
of
it
the
type
of
facility
provided
by
the
defence
force
under
the
defence
act
and
later
the
commonwealth
defense
acts
for
the
use
of
local
rifle
clubs
and
subsequent
training
of
volunteer
rifle
companies,
they're
important
for
the
defense
of
australia
and
government.
It's
rare.
It
has
a
rare
surviving
example
of
the
type
of
rifle
ranges
established
on
the
gold
coast.
From
the
mid
1880s
onwards,
the
remnants
of
the
rifle
range
demonstrate
the
evolution
of
ranges
and
their
community
use
through
the
two
world
wars
and
the
former
pimper.
K
My
rifle
range
area,
including
the
target
structures,
earth
mounds
firing
lines
associated
corrugated
iron
sheds
and
material
contained
in
the
sheds
have
the
potential
to
yield
information
pertaining
to
the
layout
use
and
development
of
the
defence
force.
Controlled
rifle
ranges
on
the
gold
coast.
The
site
also
has
archaeological
potential
when
combined
with
associated
documentary,
evidence
allows
for
further
research
into
the
early
use
of
rifle
range
sites.
E
B
F
Thank
you.
On
page
231,
we
have
the
proposed
update
of
the
map
for
the
broadwater
parklands,
and
my
understanding
is
that
the
city
in
when
we
did
the
broadwater
parklands,
we
relocated
the
cenotaph
and
the
memorial
the
face
the
the
marble
stones
from
the
memorial.
F
So
I'm
surprised
that
we
have
so
much
of
that
area
marked
as
orange,
when
I
would
have
thought
that
the
two
bits
that
should
be
marked
as
orange
is
the
small
area
that
actually
has
the
actual
monuments
and
then
the
balance
of
the
area
should
be
the
purple
which
is
ultimately
the
place
of
the
sight
lines.
And
then
I'm
also
surprised
that
in
the
same
map
we
don't
actually
identify
in
orange
and
purple
the
existing
columns
that
are
still
up
near
the
aquatic
center,
which
was
actually
the
original
bits
of
heritage.
Does
that
make
sense.
J
Through
the
chair,
I
might
just
point
out
that
these
maps
have
now
been
identical
to
this
for
four
years:
okay,
but
these
this.
F
J
J
Yeah
that
through
the
chair
that
heading
got
added
to
this
whole
map,
but
nothing
had
actually
changed
in
that
mapping.
Since
the
resolution
from
15th
of
march
2022
through
the
chair,
the
only
thing
we
could
do
is
is
take
it
on
notice
that
councillor
owen
jones
would
like
that
particular
site
potentially
re-examined,
but
at
this
point
in
time
it's
in
your
gold
coast,
local
heritage
register
and
all
this
process
is
doing-
is
mirroring
the
listing
into
the
heritage
overlay
map.
F
So
I
would
have
thought
our
job
is
to
make
sure
things
are
accurate.
You
know
so
if
it
is
improperly
described,
because
the
challenge
that
we
have
is
we're
just
about
to
place
or
formalize
an
overlay
over
a
piece
of
city
of
gold
coast
property
which
actually
doesn't
reflect
the
heritage
nature.
F
C
I
just
need
to
point
out
that
the
concerns
I
have
about
our
heritage
mapping.
My
understanding
I
was
approached
by
tss
about
a
year
ago
and
the
old
cable
park
equipment
was
moved
from
maine
beach
and
tss
took
it
as
an
act
of
kindness
to
relocate
it
within
their
school
grounds
and
even
though
they
relocated
it
from
maine
beach
out
of
cable
park.
They
then
wanted
to
expand
the
school
and
because
it
was
there,
it
was
protected
in
that
location
and
they
weren't
permitted
to
move
it.
C
It
makes
no
sense
that
those
provisions
exist
over
our
our
heritage
overlay
provisions.
I
I
have
no
understanding
how
that
can
be
if
it
if
it
was
able
to
be
moved.
Before
we
had
these
provisions,
it
was
able
to
be
moved
from
cable
park
for
the
future
development
of
cable
park.
It
was
taken
as
a
goodwill
gesture
by
tss
and
put
within
their
school
grounds
and
then
when
they
wanted
to
expand
their
footprint,
and
it
was
not
in
the
right
location
for
their
purposes.
C
They
were
not
allowed
to
move
it
because
it
was
protected
under
these
regulations.
So
I
don't
know
what
the
ultimate
outcome
was.
I
just
know
that
it's
problematic
and
I
don't
have
an
understanding
or
as
thorough
and
understanding
of
what
this
means,
by
adopting
putting
this
now
on
public
consult
to
make
to
formalize
it
within
city
plan
and
I'm
not
comfortable
with
it.
L
Nick
through
you,
mr
chair,
just
quickly-
and
perhaps
the
officers
can
clarify
this
for
me
as
well,
but
just
to
address
counselor
owen
jones
comment
as
well-
is
that
if
there
are
new
sites
that
need
to
be
added
to
the
heritage
register,
that's
something
that
we
can
always
look
at
and
add
additional
sites
to
the
heritage
register.
L
But
I
think
also
just
to
clarify
the
process
that
we're
going
through
today
is
seeking
your
endorsement
of
the
changes
that
were
made
based
on
the
feedback
that
we
got
from
the
state
previously,
so
that
we
can
go
out
to
consultation
before
we
come
back
to
you
with
the
final
version
of
this
work
at
some
stage
down
the
track.
So
this
will
then
go
out
to
consultation
before
you
then
endorse
a
future
report.
Consider
a
future
report
around
the
the
heritage,
overlays
provisions
down
the
track.
L
F
F
Part
of
the
heritage
is
where
it
originally
was,
which
is
up
on
the
top
of
the
hill
adjacent
to
the
aquatic
centre,
where
the
plinths
still
stand.
So
I
think
that
we've
got
it
wrong,
you
know
so,
and
I
I
don't
we
we
shouldn't
put
it
out
for
public
consultation
if
it's
wrong
and
we
shouldn't
endorse
it
today.
If
it's
wrong
and
I
don't
care
what
was
what
happened
four
years
ago,
because
it's
wrong.
B
Okay,
I
mean
it's
all,
probably
a
little
bit
subjective,
because
some
people
would
say
that
having
the
broader
protection
is
positive,
you
know
what
I
mean
so.
Can
I
just
ask
if
we
were
to
propose
a
mapping
change
as
councilor
aaron
jones
has
suggested
today?
B
H
Thanks
chair
just
some
clarity.
H
Increased
the
the
actual
overlay
for
the
pale
brothers
community,
which
is
all
the
the
the
length
of
garrick
street
there.
H
Canopy,
because
I
noticed,
which
is
the
fig
tree
and
tugan,
we
we
systematically.
E
J
J
The
mapping
was
in
incorrect.
It
didn't
that
the
mapping
that
says
the
current
version
of
the
mapping
that
mapping
does
not
reflect
the
full
area
for
protection
that
is
documented
in
the
local
heritage
register.
So,
therefore,
the
mapping
change
to
reflect
that
broader,
the
wider
area
of
gold
is
to
now
identically
match
the
area
for
protection
in
the
gold
coast.
Heritage
register.
B
B
A
spatial
so
going
back
to
counselor
on
jones's
point.
If
we
adopted
this
in
words
only
in
2018,
then
it
would
appear
to
be
the
case
that
the
current
version,
the
mapping,
is
something
that's
been
more
recently
created
to
reflect
the
wording
correct.
So
the
only
inherent
problem
we've
got
is
the
fact
that
we've
been
to
a
state
interest
check
with
that
mapping,
but
in
all
other
respects
it's
a
creation
for
the
purposes
of
putting
it
into
the
scheme.
Correct.
C
It's
not
currently
mapped
and,
and
nor
I
just
have
a
gut,
feel
and
I'll
leave
it
to
the
divisional
counsellor,
but
I
think
the
area
that
has
been
identified
when
there's
nothing
there
I
mean
I,
I
respect
the
heritage
of
the
site
and
that
it
is
heritage
park
and
that
it
is
rifle
range
road,
but
to
map
it.
To
that
extent,
I
I
have
no
understanding
of
how
we
got
from
not
mapping
it
because
it
was
former
we're
not
actually
protecting
something
we're
identifying
it,
but
why.
B
C
B
K
Through
the
chair,
my
rifle
range
was
one
of
nine
places
added
to
the
local
heritage
register
in
2018
it
all
this
is
doing
is,
as
kate
suggested
is,
matching
the
mapping
to
the
words
that
are
in
the
local
heritage
register.
B
C
J
C
J
So
chair,
you've,
you've
all
seen
them
now
on
the
27th
27th
of
october
2020
on
the
3rd
of
march
this
year
on
the
15th
of
march
this
year
and
when
they
originally
accept
or
res,
when
the
original
resolution
happened
in
2018
to
add
them
to
the
gold
coast,
local
heritage
register.
B
B
K
B
So
I
think
it's
probably
just
worthwhile
hearing
what
the
thoughts
are
up
in
pimpama,
in
particular,
maybe
southport
as
well,
that
there
may
be
the
need
to
make
some
changes.
So
if
we
can
get
across
that
between
now
and
full
council,
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
and
if
any
of
that
information
can
be
circulated
in
advance,
I
think
that
would
also
be
helpful.
Counselor
aaron
jones
so
through.
B
F
A
Just
some
rapid
fire
questions
concerning
some
specific
sites.
The
first
one
is
on
page
250..
It
just
just
relates
to
rossa
house
and
gardens,
so
obviously
that
set
up
botanic
gardens
have
our
heritage
team.
For
you,
mr
chairman,
worked
with
the
city
officers
who
are
responsible
for
the
the
planning
for
the
new
facility.
I
suppose
have
you
been
working
together
to
ensure
that
we're
respecting
those
cultural
and
heritage
values
through.
K
The
chair,
yes,
we
have
been
working
closely
with
parks
and
recreation
on
the
greater
gardens
master
plan,
great.
A
Thank
you
and
on
252,
we've
got
mapped
the
merrimack
drains
historic
landscape,
which
I'm
taking
to
be
the
site
of
the
proposed
green
heart,
the
heritage
there
does.
It
relate
mostly
to
the
indigenous
ochrecites
that
have
been
surveyed
on
the
side,
or
is
there
a
greater
context?
We
need
to
be
aware
of
I'm
just,
I
suppose,
sensitive
to
the
fact
that
it's
a
big
270
hectare
swathe
and
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
fettering
unnecessarily
our
ability
to
deliver
the
master
plan
that
we've
endorsed.
A
And
just
probably
doing
that,
I
suppose
one
of
the
things
that
gives
me
a
little
bit
of
pause
is
that
the
mapping
shows
the
I
suppose,
the
the
south
eastern
boundary
of
the
site
running
from
its
most
southern
point,
eastwood
following
the
mudrabah
creek.
But
in
the
master
plan
that
we've
endorsed,
we
propose
basically
a
complete
realignment
of
the
mudrabah
creek,
bringing
it
back
to
its
pre-pastoral
state.
A
J
Through
through
the
chair
council
of
australia,
I
believe
it
will
depend
on
the
level
of
this
level
of
assessment,
whether
it's
a
code,
accessible
application
or
an
impact
accessible
application
for
greenheart
in
the
future,
but
the
heritage
identification
of
that
site
is
purely
in
relation
to
the
historic
drains
through
the
site.
There's
no
mention
in
the
listing
of
the
indigenous.
A
J
A
A
I
suppose
we've
endorsed
a
master
plan
that
foreshadows
significant
re-engineering
of
the
overland
flow
paths
into
new
billabong's
new
creek's
new
wetlands
and
I'd
be
extremely
hesitant
actually
to
to
tick
off
on
something
that
isn't
drain
specific,
but
rather
applies
to
the
whole
site,
because
it
could
encumber
our
ability
to
make
the
space
more
functional,
and
I'm
not
saying
we
shouldn't
be
protecting
things
like
oka
sites,
with
indigenous
value,
protecting
the
heritage
of
the
mudrabah
creek
tik
tiktik,
but
as
far
as
delivering
a
developed
outcome
on
the
site,
I'm
very
hesitant
to
support
a
a
drainage,
historic
drainage
plan.
A
Without
that
information,
so
that'd
be
great
and
those
are
my
only
ones.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
B
So,
just
to
just
want
to
ask
a
question
is:
is
it
the
case
actually
cancer
and
jones
it
on
page
223,
the
anzac
park
memorial
gates
that
are
depicted
there
as
a
new
entry
are
in
fact
those
ones.
It
appears
to
be
marine
parade.
J
Through
the
chair,
I,
I
presume
that
is
the
same
site
that
counselor
owen
jones
is
referring
to
there.
B
You
go
fix
already
in
so
that
was
point
number
one
point
number
two,
so
council
of
also
the
the
historic
drains
are
obviously
not
a
new
entry
they're
an
existing
entry.
Now
I
can't
remember
having
seen
a
reference
to
that
in
any
of
the
material
that
we've
seen
in
relation
to
green
heart.
A
Although
it's
a
division,
eight
site
now,
I've
got
a
keen
interest
in
that
particular
precinct,
and
the
thing
that
makes
me
nervous
is
the
rest
of
the
mapping
is
quite
surgical,
so
we're
looking
at
specific
tracts
of
land
connections
and
what
have
you.
But
this.
This
applies
over
the
whole
site
and
would
seem
quite
odd
that
the
heritage
value
extends
only
to
our
property
boundaries
and
onto
the
adjacent
golf
course.
For
example,
I
can't
ever
recall
seeing
the
maps
or
that
detail.
J
Yeah
through
the
chair
council
of
foster,
the
mapping
reflects
the
area
for
protection.
That's
noted
in
the
gold
coast,
local
heritage
register,
so
in
the
instance
of
that
particular
site,
it
would
be
probably
those
three
cadastral
lots
so
unless
there
had
been
a
significant
sort
of
heritage
analysis
in
between
that
time
to
change
the
gold
coast,
heritage
register
area
for
protection
or
this
process
is
just
reflecting
what's
already
in
in
the
register.
So
I
guess
yes,
we
could
take
it
on
notice
to
see
what's
possible,
but
in
terms
of
the
greenheart
master
plan.
A
A
I'm
sure
it
would,
but
I
presume
that
many
sites
in
this
big
long
list
are
both
public
and
private
property,
and
I
would
think
that,
if
something's
of
genuine
heritage
value
that
we
wouldn't
treat
private
property
any
differently
to
the
way
we
would
treat
public
property.
So
when
I
see
an
overlay
map
that
follows
a
lot
line,
I
get
a
little
bit
nervous
that
we've
probably
either
cast
the
net
too
wide
within
our
own
property
or
we've
cast
it
too
narrow,
simply
not
to
have
the
inconvenience
of
dealing
with
adjacent
property
owners.
A
It's
just
it's
it's
too
convenient
for
lack
of
a
better
word,
so
I'd
be
very
interested
in
that
document
to
identify
specifically
what
has
triggered
inclusion
here
and
if
it
deals
with
the
flow
of
surface
water
through
degraded
pasture
former
pastoral
land
along
a
creek,
that's
been
re-engineered
into
a
canal.
C
Thanks
chairman,
if
I
could
just
ask
one
more
question:
on
pages
244
and
245
244
lists
the
pimpama
omo
war
memorial.
Although
the
land
is
not
highlighted,
it's
just
mentioned
and
the
same
with
on
245
the
upper
kumara
war.
Memorial
is
the
words,
are
there,
but
there's
no
area
of
place
highlighted.
Why
is
that?
And
yet,
if
you
look
at
rifle
range
now,
there
is
a
a
block
that
is
it
because
they
were
adopted
earlier.
C
J
C
So
so,
how
does
that
impact
on
the
state
government's
desire
to
relocate
the
the
upper
kumra
war
memorial
which
they
have
suggested?
They
need
to
do
due
to
the
widening
of
the
tambourine
oxenford
road
and
they're
the
they're,
the
sort
of
things
I'm
asking
when
I
say
what
are
the
implications
of
what
we're
adopting.
B
B
C
J
Through
the
chair,
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
site
and
the
example
the
specific
da
example
that
councillor
gates
is
referring
to.
But
again
we
could
just
take
that
on
notice,
because
I
suppose
the
nature
of
this
amendment
is
not
to
interrogate
specific
development
applications.
It's
to
deal
with
the
amendment
as
it
stands,.
B
J
Well,
there's
the
provision
of
section
74
of
the
queensland
heritage
act
that
outlines
a
process
for
heritage
exemption
certificates
in
the
instance
of
particular
works
that
have
a
a
no
detrimental
impact
on
the
cultural
heritage.
Significance
of
the
place.
So
again,
we
can
only
take
that
on
on
notice
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge,
we
haven't
been
contacted
by
anybody
in
the
state
government
about
that,
but
we
can.
We
can
take
that
on
notice
and
get
and
respond
to
councillor
gates
about
that
project.
B
So
it
seems
to
me
just
as
a
general
proposition.
The
current
proposals
for
mapping
are
more
refined
than
some
of
the
earlier
entries,
so
with
the
exemption
of
perhaps
the
dot
that
might
be
sitting
on
the
war.
Memorial
there's
clearly
a
lot
more
cadastral
entries
that
have
been
previously
put
in
than
might
be
the
case
under
the
current
approach,
which
is
clearly
even
if
we
think
they
might
be
too
big
or
something
they're
still
far
more
refined
than,
for
example,
like
the
entire
beachfront
at
burley.
B
That's
that's
a
huge
area,
so
councillor
hamill,
then
I'll
go
to
the
director.
I
I'm
interested
mr
chair
just
in
terms
of
process,
so
this
is
only
to
allow
it
to
go
out
to
public
ad
and
then
it
will
come
back
to
us
for
final
endorsement.
That's
correct!
Yes,
eventually
yeah
yeah
and
if
it
doesn't
receive
final
endorsement
from
council.
What
happens
then.
J
Through
the
chair,
the
I
guess
that
the
timing
risk
of
the
protracted
length
of
time
the
risk
to
us
is
the
temporary
local
planning
instrument
for
the
old
burley
theatre.
Arcade
expires
on
the
30th
of
june
in
2023.
J
So
there
would
then
therefore
be
a
gap
in
time
when
that
tlpi
no
longer
has
effect
over
that
particular
site,
which
means
therefore,
a
new
application
could
be
lodged
with,
with
with
no
protection
over
that
site.
So
to
some
degree,
time
is
really
of
the
essence.
In
terms
of
that,
as
a
key
driver
for
why
this
amendment
package
even
started.
I
Does
that
help
it
does
and
second
question
er
in
terms,
so
it
goes
out
to
public
ad
now
if
there
was
legitimate
feedback
or
support
from
the
community
to
remove
something
from
the
local
heritage
register.
Can
that
be
excised
before
this
is
completely
signed
off,
or
would
that
have
to
be
done
through
another
amendment
later
on.
J
B
B
J
M
M
M
But
if,
if
I
can
also
make
the
point
too,
I
do
take
it
on
notice
that
we
could
look
to
examine.
I
guess
some
of
these
areas
that
have
been
brought
up
today
to
date,
the
current
boundaries
that
we're
looking
at
are
based
on
the
formal
assessment.
So
it
has
been
confirmed
that
those
areas
are
areas
of
significance,
but
we
can
certainly,
I
guess,
in
consultation
with
yourselves,
have
a
look
at
each
of
those
places.
I
I'd
be
happy
with
that
chair,
because
the
map
is
only
two
colors
on
it,
but
I'm
going
to
guess
as
intent.
That
say,
for
example,
at
heritage
park.
If
the
south
coast
restoration
society
wanted
to
build
another
building,
maybe
50
meters
away
from
the
purple
that
could
still
trigger
the
need
for
them
to
have
to
get
assessment
done
to
prove
how
it
doesn't
cause
an
effect.
Or
is
it
only
that
if
the
check
is
that
accurate,
yeah.
M
Through
through
the
chair,
can
I
also
make
the
point
too,
so
this
doesn't
prohibit
development
on
a
local
heritage
place.
It
just
means
that
the
development
is
managed
to
minimise
the
impact,
and
there
are
different
levels
of
I
guess
impact
that
would
be
considered
so
for
works
that
are
only
minor
in
nature.
It
would
be
undertaken
through
a
heritage
exemption
certificate
process,
which
is
a
very
efficient
process.
I
I
The
practical
implications
on
a
side-by-side
basis
is
a
little
bit
difficult
to
comprehend,
and
all
we're
looking
to
avoid
is
in
the
future
that
something
that
we
support
wanting
to
do
can't
be
done,
because
we've
endorsed
apparently
for
the
third
or
fourth
or
fifth.
Who
knows
how
many
times
do
it
just
to
make
that
point.
M
Sorry
through
the
chair,
I'm
under
the
legislation
council's
required
to
have
regard
for
the
heritage
significance
in
the
decision-making
process
and
the
legislation
does
clearly
state
that
council.
You
know
local
governments
must
identify
places
of
local
heritage
significance
and
have
regard
for
that
in
their
planning
scheme,
just
in
relation
to
stewart's
road
just
to
confirm
so
stewart's
right
isn't
actually
on
the
local
heritage
register.
It's
been
identified
as
a
place
of
potential
significance,
so
that's
one
place
that
we're
still
yet
to
formally
assess.
I
It's
a
great
practical
example
of
that.
If
the
house
is
identified,
have
heritage
significance
and
then
ends
up
on
the
local
heritage
register,
does
that
then
mean
that
the
house
couldn't
be
moved
50
meters
to
the
right
to
allow
a
sport
field
to
be
built?
That's
the
practical
implications
that,
because
they're
all
very
different
sites
with
different
practical
results,
but.
B
So
presumably
the
detail
that
lies
under
the
underneath
the
map
is
able
to
identify
well
we're
trying
to
protect
the
trees.
You
can
put
a
bin
there,
that's
cool!
You
know
what
I
mean
like
the
house
that
we're
probably
too
far
away
from
knowing
what
the
conservation
management
plan
for
a
house
on
stuart's
farm.
I
B
Say
that,
having
seen
where
the
green
heart
thing
has
now
ended
up
and
that
level
of
mapping,
it
is
something
where
you
might
want
to
back
the
truck
up
a
little
bit
on
how
quickly
that
moves
forward
to
ensure
that
whatever
the
global
vision
is
for
stewart's
road
could
perhaps
be
meshed
in
with
what
we
want
to
achieve.
With
the
with
the
farmhouse
before
the
farmhouse
takes
over.
K
Through
the
chair,
sorry,
with
stewart's
road,
we
are
in
consultation
with
parks
and
recreation
at
the
moment
for
any
of
their
master
planning
works
that
they're
currently
looking
at
as
well,
so
just
to
we're
we're
they're,
obviously
aware
of
the
situation
and
we're
also
in
consultation
with
them.
That's
good.
M
Can
I
also
add,
through
the
chair
too,
so
we
do
relocate
heritage
places,
so
it
is.
It
is
a
potential
that
could
be
considered,
but
it
would
need
to
be
considered
on
balance
of,
I
guess
all
considerations
about
whether
or
not
we
can
accommodate
it
with
the
existing
arrangement.
The
proposal
for
that
site
or
whether
we
look
to
relocate
it
as
you've
suggested
yeah.
So
it
is,
it
all
gets
considered.
So.
B
I
There's
early
indications
that
it
does
have
some
architectural
significance
and
has
other
historical
significance
to
that
end
of
the
gold
coast.
It
was
just
more
that
it's
a
good
example
on
city-owned
land
of
the
implications
of
gold
and
purple
on
a
map
which
is
a
physical
structure
versus
at
rifle
range.
Where
like.
If
the
old
mounds
were
still
there
from
when
it
was
a
rifle
range,
I
could
understand
the
need
to
protect.
B
L
Thanks,
mr
chair,
just
I
think
just
a
quick
comment.
It's
it's
apparent
that
obviously
the
councillors
would
like
some
more
information
or
some
more
engagement
around
the
the
sites
on
the
register,
the
mapping
and
also
the
development
implications
or
the
broader
implications
around
those
different
sites,
and
I
think,
to
ann
or
jemima.
L
A
question
for
me
is
whether-
and
I
think
that's
what
you
were
saying
before
jemima-
is
that
whether
we
can
contin
whether
we
can
continue
down
this
process
and
endorsing
these
recommendations
and
that
work
can
happen
concurrently
or
whether
we
need
to
do
some
more
work
on
that
just
to
determine
whether
all
of
that
sort
of
engagement
that
we
want
to
undertake
with
the
councillors
can
happen
concurrently,
but
also
with
some
safety
that
we
could
endorse
these
recommendations.
Today.
B
All
right,
any
other
questions
counsellors
all
right.
Well,
I'll
cautiously,
move
this
second
by
counselor
young.
Suffice
to
say
that
I
think
we
probably
need
some
further
information
between
now
and
full
council
to
satisfy
ourselves
that
this
is
the
right
way
forward.
So
do
anyone
want
to
speak
for
or
against
councillor
vorster.
A
Thanks,
mr
chairman,
only
to
say
that
I'll
be
supporting
the
recommendation
in
good
faith.
I'm
waiting
on
that
further
information
concerning
the
green
heart,
but
we'll
have
an
open
and
persuadable
minded
full
council.
B
Okay
thanks:
anyone
else
want
to
speak
for
or
against,
take
the
vote
all
in
favor.
B
All
right,
counselor
guys
you
had
a
question
on
this
one:
oh
hang
on
holtz
hold
the
phone
counselor
young
is
going
to
go
and
get
counselor
young.
B
Shall
we
bring
the
meeting
back
to
order
councillors?
Now
it's
council
gates,
we
had
a
question
on
this.
One.
D
G
B
F
Owen
jones,
thank
you,
mr
chair
specifically
related
to
this
item
on
page
404.
F
In
the
summary
it
talks
about
raising
the
governance
position
from
a
secondary
role
to
a
primary
role
through
the
centralisation
of
the
major
gold
coast
city
council
administration
functions
in
southport,
and
I
just
think
that
we
should
remove
reference
to
that
project,
because
that
is
that
is
maybe
getting
way
ahead
of
ourselves
and
so
the
the
I
think.
As
councillors.
F
We
all
know
that
we've
got
a
city,
a
new
city,
ceo,
who
is
definitely
looking
into
the
administrative
needs
of
the
city
and
part
of
that
project,
as
we
all
know,
is
accommodation,
and
I
think
it
would
it's
it.
I
don't.
I
think
it's
wrong
to
make
itself
fulfilling
that
southport
is
the
preferred
location
and
if,
if
a
need
is
moved
for,
accommodation
movement
is
required.
So
I
think
it's
actually
misleading
to
have
it
referenced,
and
I
think
that
it's
it
shouldn't
be.
G
G
G
Through
the
chair,
counselor
gates,
that's
a
very
good
observation.
There
is
actually
a
the
report
talks
the
need
to
looking
for
federal
courthouses,
but
it's
also
what
other
federal
facilities
could
be
opportune
for
the
cbd
as
well.
B
B
Maybe
we
say
that
counselor
on
jones,
maybe
did
we
just
say
that
editorial
amendments
be
made
to
the
consultant
report
prior
to
its
public
release,
reflecting
the
content
of
the
officer
report.
B
F
B
F
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman.
Just
on
page
405
again,
could
I
just
get
a
sense
of
the
the
opportunity
opportunities
that
are
listed
there,
in
particular
the
formation
of
a
business
attraction
strategy
to
grow
the
existing
media
and
telecommunications
sector
media
and
telecommunications
to
the
development
of
a
specialized
focus
of
health
for
the
gold
coast
cbd
that
does
not
compete
directly
with
the
gold
coast,
health
and
knowledge
precinct.
A
This
could
be
in
the
areas
of
plastic
surgery,
day
surgery,
ear,
nose
and
throat,
specialists
or
other
growing
areas
of
health.
So
with
that
second
bullet
point,
does
that
mean
to
say
that
we
don't
want
those
specialists
in
the
cbd
or
that
we
do
want
those
specialists
in
the
cbd
because
they
don't
have
a
footprint
in
the
health
and
knowledge
precinct.
N
Through
the
chair
yeah,
so
there's
already
with
the
removal
of
the
hospital
out
of
southport,
there
were
a
range
of
existing
specialist
health
providers
that
remained
in
southport,
and
this
is
just
identifying
an
opportunity
to
to
build
on
those
health
providers
that
are
there
to
encourage
more
to
locate
in
that
area.
A
A
Is
the
intention
to
deliver
a
cbd
for
the
gold
coast
where
economic
activity-
and
you
know,
employee
footfall
on
footpaths,
is
concentrated,
or
are
we
attempting
to
spread
that
economic
activity
across
these
other
mo
other
hubs
nodes
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
throughout
the
city?
And
I'm
asking
that,
because
there
are
some
very
heavy
hitting
projects
and
suggestions
in
this
list
of
opportunities
that
seem
to
conflict
with
the
direction.
I
thought
we
were
heading
in.
L
Through
you,
mr
chair,
I
can't
speak
to
what's
been
discussed
at
elt
recently,
but
I
think,
more
broadly,
from
an
economic
development
perspective.
There's
a
great
opportunity
to
be
able
to
establish
different
economic
nodes
around
the
city
with
specific
purposes
and
a
cbd
type
node,
which
catherine
and
richard
can
talk
to
is
is
more
around
those
sorts
of
professional
services,
legal
services
and
the
sorts
of
activities
that
are
outlined
in
this
report.
L
So,
from
my
point
of
view,
there's
still
a
lot
of
merit
in
focusing
on
different
nodes
around
the
city
and
the
different
functions
that
they
perform
from
an
economic
perspective.
But
southport
as
a
cbd
has
a
specific
role
to
play
in
terms
of
those
sorts
of
professional
services
and
the
broader
sort
of
economic
opportunities
that
can
be
attracted
to
a
cbd.
A
B
A
So,
mr
chairman,
I
think
you
and
I
are
in
furious
agreement,
but
this
isn't
just
about
what
planning
outcomes
we
might
like
to
support.
It's
actually
about
council
intervention
to
secure
particular
uses
and
tenants
and
economic
activity.
So
it
goes
beyond
what
I
would
say
is
a
planning
matter,
but
one
that
strays
into
an
economic
development
matter
to
the
extent
that
we're
intervening
to
secure
an
additional
university
campus
to
expand
existing
media
and
potentially
attract
new
telecommunication
sectors.
A
I
just
wondered
how
that
economic
push
rather
than
land
use
and
planning
push
interacted
with
other
plans,
most
notably
our
transport
strategy,
because
I
would
have
thought
that
the
better
approach
would
be
for
the
market
to
find
a
home
for
these
places
in
the
areas
where
we
we
determined
they
may
be
suitable
right.
Does
that
kind
of
make
sense,
maybe
not.
D
A
So
I'm
all
happy
with
that.
So
I'm
happy
with
accommodating
multiple
universities
right
throughout
the
gold
coast,
but
this
goes
more
than
allocating
space
for
a
university.
It's
actually
the
recommended.
Well,
the
recommendation
in
the
consultants
report
is
to
initiate
a
strategy
to
attract
a
university
campus
to
the
gold
coast
cbd.
N
Okay,
thank
you
through
the
chair.
There's
a
range
of
initiatives
identified
here
again.
This
is
the
first
pass
body
of
work,
which
is
the
current
state
analysis.
So
what
the
consultants
were
looking
at
is
based
on
the
city
as
it
currently
stands,
how
is
southport
performing
across
multiple
sectors
and
then
out
of
that
they've
looked
at
okay.
N
Now
the
reason
they
look
at
these
sorts
of
things
is
because
it's
an
economic
development
act
planning
instrument.
There
are
three
components
to
the
development
scheme.
The
first
component
is
the
land
use
plan,
the
second
components,
the
infrastructure
plan,
and
the
third
component
is
the
implementation
strategy,
which
is
all
the
things
that
need
to
be
done
to
to
support
the
intent
of
the
cbd.
N
We
still
have
a
long
way
to
go
in
terms
of
the
next
steps
we
follow
for
engagement
with
the
community
engagement
with
business
and
then
ultimately
reviewing
and
updating
the
development
scheme.
So
this
is
just
the
very
first
initial
body
of
work,
typically
in
cbds
governments
underwrite
risk
on
a
whole
lot
of
things,
because
you
need
to
get
development
happening
and
what
we've
seen
between.
N
I
guess,
where
the
seat,
where
the
city's
developed
at
the
moment
is
that
there
hasn't
been
a
lot
of
new
commercial
space
delivered
in
the
gold
coast
cbd
over
the
last
decade.
It's
been
in
other
parts
of
the
city
and
that's
for
for
various
reasons,
but
also
brisbane
has
taken
the
lion's
share
of
development
from
the
region,
and
so
even
with
our
body
of
work.
N
Just
recently,
we've
identified
that
all
of
the
professional
service
space
in
southport
doesn't
even
fill
up
one
william
street,
so
one
tower
in
brisbane
occupies,
as
has
more
commercial
space
for
professional
services
than
all
of
the
gold
coast
cbd.
And
when
you
look
regionally
along
maroochydore
ipswich
gold
coast,
we're
actually
probably
meant
to
be
the
second
biggest
cbd
in
the
region,
and
then
you
think
well,
one
tower
in
brisbane.
N
So
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
do
to
actually
say
well
for
the
population
that
we're
supposed
to
be
serving
for
the
region
that
we
that
we
serve,
there's
significant
opportunity
still
sitting
in
southport
to
provide
services
and
business
and
employment
opportunities
for
the
region.
But
what's
needed
is
de-risking.
So
that's
the
big
issue
is
how
do
you
de-risk
it
for
the
market
to
be
able
to
deliver
that
space
and
to
create
that
momentum
there?
So
this
report
highlights
you
know
where
we
stayed
at
the
moment:
opportunities
for
further
consideration.
N
A
Yeah
look
thanks,
mr
chairman,
and
look
richard.
I
totally
get
that
I
absolutely
totally
get
that,
but
where
I've
got
a
level
of
discomfort
is
that
we've
got
a
transport
strategy
and
even
our
economic
strategy
that
we've
kind
of
endorsed
to
me
those
sorts
of
pushes
and
initiatives
that
economics
up
that
should
find
a
natural
home
in
the
economic
strategy
and
the
economic
strategy
should
say
we
want
to
deliver
a
vibrant
cbd.
That's
delivering!
A
For
me,
the
economic
strategy
is
the
natural
home
for
those
and
not
this
document.
I
just
feel
that
we've
kind
of
we've
got
initiatives
living
in
two
places,
so
it
becomes
difficult
to
performance
manage
and
it
becomes
difficult
to
track
success.
I'm
also
pretty
concerned
that
I
think,
if
we
apply
for
that
future
gender
reports
be
brought
forward
to
planning
and
environment
committee
for
consideration
of
findings
from
early
stakeholder
engagement
and
investigations
that
we
might
not,
as
a
council
or
committee,
provide
a
check
and
balance
before
investigations
are
pursued.
A
We
can
have
the
best
cbd
plan
ever,
but
just
on
the
point
of
attracting
government
services,
the
federal
government
is
consolidating
all
of
its
services,
australia,
employees
across
the
gold
coast
to
a
purpose-built
building
in
rabina,
which
is
presently
under
construction
right.
It's
building
it
at
rabina.
A
It's
a
risk
right!
Well
guess
where
the
state
government's
just
built
a
new
tafe,
it's
built
it
up
robina
and
I'm
I'm
not
turning
this
into
a
southport
burst.
Robina
thing,
but
I
just
want
to
make
this
point
a
lot
of
the
time-
the
state
government
and
the
federal
government
when
they
are
putting
out
eois
to
the
market
to
deliver.
These
developments
are
actually
requiring
the
developments
to
be
situated
along
the
heavy
rail
corridor,
not
the
light
rail
corridor.
A
So
we
can
have
a
great
plan
and
we
can
throw
lots
of
money
at
the
problem
of
revitalizing
southport.
But
I
think,
unless
we've
actually
nailed
a
position
with
the
state
government
and
the
federal
government
to
support
the
cbd,
we're
going
to
be
developing
a
plan
that
will
actually
never
yield
development
on
the
ground.
And
it
could
be
that
we
have
a
catalyst
type
development
that
might
induce
them
to
to
give
southport
a
go.
It
could
be.
A
But
I
think,
unless
we've
got
a
commitment
early
on
from
them,
that
they're
willing
to
entertain
that
in
future,
eois
we're
going
to
be
incurring
a
lot
of
expense.
We're
going
to
be
raising
community
expectation
for
this
future
of
southport
without
actually
being
able
to
attract
the
dollars,
because
presently
the
focus
only
on
the
heavy
rail
and
just
to
support
that
claim.
A
With
the
varsity
lake's
transit
orientated
development,
so
this
is
where
the
heavy
rail
station
is
the
state
government
intended
to
develop
that
todd
ahead
of
the
commonwealth
games
in
2018,
and
the
plan
was
to
put
a
university
there.
Why?
Because
it's
on
the
heavy
rail
station,
so
I
just
want
to
flag.
Unless
we've
got
the
state
government
on
board
with
a
lot
of
this
early
on,
I
don't
think
we
should
be
going
down
and
spending
too
many
resources
pursuing
investigations
and
plans.
Thanks.
C
Thanks
chairman,
I
too
have
a
concern,
post
covert
about
and-
and
I
wonder,
if
any,
if
the
officers
have
taken
it
into
consideration.
I
know
that
the
report
was
probably
done
over
that
time,
but
my
understanding
is
that
there's
possibly
less
incentive
now
for
the
development
of
commercial
office
space
and
that
the
work
from
home
thing
has
really
taken
flight
for
many
many
organizations.
C
I
I
worry
that
the
decision
we
took
on
southport
becoming
a
cbd
it's
going
to
be
difficult
to
deliver.
In
my
view,
there
was
a
time
when
the
planning
scheme
was,
I
think
councillor.
Young
will
remember.
This
was
about
to
recognize
three
key
regional
centers
and
it
was
kumra,
robina
and
southport,
and
that
was
so
that
we
didn't
have
a
specific
cbd
and
that
all
of
the
traffic
and
and
all
of
the
people
headed
for
the
one
spot.
C
But
it
was
decentralized
to
a
degree
to
allow
people
to
work
closer
to
their
homes
in
one
of
three
possible
key
regional
centres,
and
that's
probably
maybe
12
or
13
years
ago,
that
that
model
was
spoken
of
and
and
for
me.
It
seems
to
me
that
the
advent
of
covert
has
perhaps
revived
that
sort
of
position.
Rather
than
focusing
all
of
the
resources
into
one
specific
area
where
people
are
seemingly
more
inclined
to
only
work
part-time
out
of
a
specific
office
space.
So
the
the
space
required
is
far
less.
C
So
I'm
wondering
how
the
officers
contemplate
contemplating
those
issues
and
if,
if
they
are
valid,.
G
Through
the
chair,
yes,
they
are
valid.
Concerns
completely
acknowledged
how
the
use
of
office
space
has
changed
during
and
after
covert
in
terms
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
from
a
city
planning
branch
perspective,
is
we
have
three
large
projects
underway?
At
the
moment
we
have
the
robina
pda
review.
Sorry,
sorry,
we
have
the
robina
agreement
review.
We
also
have
the
southport
pda
review
and
we
also
have
productive
gold
coast.
G
What
we
are
seeing
from
those
bodies
of
work
is
that
as
a
council
there's
an
opportunity
to
actually
position
these
locations
to
win
and
that
they
don't
need
to
compete
with
each
other.
So
what
we're
looking
to
do
as
an
outcome
from
this
work
that
we're
presenting
to
you
today
is
to
actually
do
a
strategic
visioning
exercise
with
yourself
in
the
community
to
look
at
what
is
the
southport
pda?
The
options
that
the
consultants
have
listed
are
just
that
they
are
options.
G
I
Mr
chair,
I'm
interested-
and
I
didn't
read
this
report
in
great
detail,
but
could
officers
reflect
for
me
that
I
don't
think
on
a
cbd
or
otherwise?
Isn't
too
consequential?
It's
been
that
there's
been
too
big
a
focus
on
thinking
that
we
needed
more
office
space
there
when
successful,
cbds
or
big
city
spaces.
It's
based
on
how
many
people
live
there.
Brisbane
metro
has
a
population
of
about
2.3
million
people.
I
think
like
it's
about
how
many
people
live
there,
not
how
many
people
are
attracting
an
office
space
said.
G
Through
the
chair,
we
did
actually
look
at
that,
and
what
we
can
report
is
that
the
residential
side
of
the
pda
is
actually
performing
extremely
well,
since
it
commenced
in
2014,
we've
actually
had
6
000
new
residents
moved
to
that
location,
which
indicates
that
there
are
people
that
are
wanting
to
live
in
the
pda
or
will
be
it
for
education
or
for
work
or
for
the
lifestyle.
So
the
in
terms
of
the
residential
development,
it
is
actually
being
delivered.
I
N
Well,
I
think
that
that
side
of
it
is
already
facilitated
in
the
development
scheme.
So
you
know
that's
not.
I
guess.
If
we're
looking
at
the
overall,
how
the
cbd
is
performing
and
how
the
development
scheme
is
performing,
I
would
argue
that
it's
been
performing
well
in
that
space.
N
Previous
work
we've
done
looking
at.
What's
what's
tipping
the
the
dial
to
actually
get
development
to
happen
in
the
cbd?
Is
that
typically
on
the
gold
coast,
most
we're
we're
a
very
big
small
business
city
and
so
typically
with
small
businesses?
That's
about
90
of
businesses
have
less
than
20
staff,
and
so,
if
you're,
looking
at
a
developer,
making
a
decision
to
deliver
commercial
office
space,
they
actually
usually
chase.
At
least,
I
think
about
60
pre-commitments
to
then
deliver
the
building.
N
Now
what
we
find
on
the
gold
coast
is,
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
large
tenants
to
underwrite
risk
to
deliver
large
office
spaces
qic,
obviously
has
attracted
a
major
tenant
down
in
rabina
and
rabina
lancorp
when
they
built
the
rocket.
That
was
a
pretty
big
spec
build,
so
they
attracted
a
lot
of
tenants
as
they
looked
as
they
delivered
it.
N
N
I
Mr
it's
the
point
to
richard
made
before
about
the
one
tower
from
brisbane,
but
I
think
you'll
actually
find
that
so
zupp's
property
group
have
got
significant
investments
in
southport,
but
also
significant
investments
and
lands
up
in
yatla.
I
think
you'll
even
find
that
they
have
more
office
space
under
construction
committed
in
their
yatler
development
than
what
they
do
in
their
southport
development,
because
for
that
exact
reason
that
the
size
of
companies
needed
that
need
those
professional
services
and
that
kind
of
office
space
are
up
the
north
end
of
the
city.
I
B
I
That
and
that
comes
back
to
a
couple
points
about
letting
the
private
sector
drive
it,
so
that
was
ups
property
group's
original
plan
was
more
office
space
in
southport
and
that's
why
they
purchased
certain
sites.
But
then
the
feedback
they
got
from
private
sector
was
if
we
want
to
be
closer
to
where
our
companies
are,
which
was
in
yatla,
which
led
them
to
buy
land,
get
innovation.
D
A
couple
of
questions-
one
was
through
you
in
relation
to
that
population
growth
that
you
mentioned
in
the
southport
pda
is
that
reflected
in
is
that
actual
population
growth?
Or
are
you
talking
about
residential
dwellings.
G
So
that
is
abs.
Data,
admittedly,
is
from
last
year,
but
it
is
the
abs
data
that's
used
on
new
residents
to
the
area
it
does
also.
I
must
say
that
it
also
does
take
into
account
southport,
north
and
south,
which
isn't
exclusively
the
southport
pda,
but
it
is
still
a
good
indicator
of
what
has
been
occurring
in
the
area.
Okay,.
D
Thanks
so
my
first
question
was
going
to
be
in
relation
to
the
seq
regional
plan.
How
does
that
recognize?
Southport
currently.
G
Through
the
chair,
through
the
regional
plan,
the
southport
pda
is
recognized
as
winning
one
of
the
city's
primary
centers.
It
does
still
talk
to
the
fact
that
rabina
plays
a
significant
role
for
the
gold
coast
as
well,
but
that
the
majority
of
those
significant
services
should
be
located
within
the
southport
cbd.
B
F
I
do,
and
I
appreciate
those
editorial
amendment
changes,
because
I
think
that
it
is
important
that
the
that
it
isn't
seen
as
a
fighter
complete
that
the
city
of
gold
coast
would
move
an
administration
to
southport.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
highlight
that,
because
if
that
is
a
decision
of
her
future
council,
it
really
doesn't
matter
where
in
the
city
it
goes,
it'll
be
a
well
thought
out.
Decision
that
we
make
southport.
F
Pda
is
a
priority
development
area
that
was
established
in
2013
and
it's
more
than
appropriate
that
we
review
it
at
this
point
in
time,
because
a
lot's
happened
in
the
last
10
years,
and
one
of
those
things
is
in
regards
to
the
commercial
market.
We've
gone
from
22
odd
percent
vacancy
down
to
around
10
vacancy,
which
is
the
lowest
it's
been
since
the
gfc.
F
But
I
think
that
the
impact
of
coverage
shouldn't
be
lost
on
anybody
and
what
a
future
city
cbd
looks
like
is
a
really
useful
thing
for
us
to
to
go
out
and
do
some
consultation
around
and
clearly,
since
the
pda
was
established
in
2013.
We've
also
seen
the
connection
of
the
southport
area
to
the
heavy
rail
line
through
stage
two
of
the
light
rail
and
hopefully
in
the
next
four
or
five
years,
we'll
see
the
extension
of
the
light
rail
south
past,
where
it
currently
terminates
at
broad
beach.
F
F
Space
than
all
of
the
gold
coast
shouldn't
be
lost
honestly,
that
we're
a
pretty
unique
city
and
the
fact
that
I
think
that
we're
the
only
city
in
australia
that
has
a
whole
lot
of
high-rises
that
aren't
involved
in
commercial
enterprises
are
involved
in
accommodation
and
residential.
So
I
think
that
a
review
of
the
cbd
of
the
pda
is
definitely
the
right
thing
to
do,
but
I
just
don't
think
we
need
to
get
too
excited
about
the
commercial
aspects
of
it.
B
B
N
B
And
what's
the
slight
change
would
be
to
alter.
F
A
B
C
A
Yeah
come
and
grab
it
then
just
after
site,
if
we
could
put
in
brackets
and
any
related
plan
of
development,
capital,
p,
capital,
o
capital
d.
A
B
A
What
it
does,
mr
chairman,
is
that
is
connected
with
the
start
of
the
paragraph
which
says
that
they
may
write
to
the
premier
blah
blah
blah
to
advocate.
So
it's
it's.
It's
basically
asking
the
man
his
role
as
the
city's
advocate
to
advocate
for
this
as
an
outcome,
but
doesn't
make
it
a
con
condition.
It
acknowledges
the
fact
that
they're,
ultimately
the
decision
maker,
but
if
we
don't
ask
and
make
the
case
that
I
hope
to
then
we
won't
receive.
B
Okay,
that's
good
the
second
by
cancer
patient
then,
just
in
relation
to
the
point
c,
where
we
say
the
development
outcome
and
any
opportunity,
blah
blah
and
any
related
plan
of
development.
Now,
do
you
think
richard?
That
would
I
mean
I
think
it's
probably
more
likely
they
might
still
put
a
pda
over
the
area.
Do
you
think
that
would
be
a
a
possibility.
N
Through
the
chair,
we're
obviously
undertaking
a
planning
review
at
rabina
at
the
moment
yeah
and
we
haven't
actually
reached
a
position
of
you
know,
based
on
our
vision,
work
and
engagement
with
community
and
stakeholders.
What
might
be
the
right
instrument
over
that
area?
The
state
have
identified,
based
on
our
timing,
estimates
at
the
moment
about
20
25
26
for
their
detailed
planning.
N
So
it's
highly
likely
that
we'll
have
completed
our
planning
work
and
identified
a
potential
future
for
this
area
as
to
whether
or
not
you
know,
they
then
cut
out
a
piece
and
put
a
pda
or
other
regulatory
instrument
on
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
a
pda.
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
So
I
just.
A
I
think
that's
key
for
for
good
reasons,
chairman
and
when
it's
time
for
the
button
happy
to
open.
C
Yes,
okay,
it's
very
brief.
It
says
thank
you
for
your
letter,
the
review
about
the
robina
central
planning
review.
The
review
will
play
a
key
role
in
developing
the
long-term
vision
for
robina
central,
as
you
noted,
robina
will
be
the
location
for
the
second
olympic
village
accommodating
up
to
2600
athletes
and
officials
and
providing
a
legacy
of
around
500
permanent
dwellings.
C
This
olympic
village
will
help
deliver
much
needed
housing
supply
to
one
of
australia's
fastest
growing
regions
and
contribute
to
the
vibrancy
of
a
mixed-use
robina
town
centre.
The
dwellings
required
for
this
olympic
village
are
only
a
small
part
of
a
much
larger
urban
development,
with
significant
ongoing
investment
from
the
private
sector.
C
I
know
you
will
be
in
contact
again
when
further
information
is
available
on
the
proposed
planning
instrument
for
robina
central
in
the
interim.
Dr
stephen
miles
has
been
copied
for
his
information
because
he's
the
minister
assisting
the
premier
on
olympics
infrastructure,
the
premier's
government
looks
forward
to
continuing
engagement
with
the
gold
coast
city
council,
as
the
review
progresses.
A
They
have
indicated
to
me
that
they're
not
quite
settled
on
what
the
development
outcomes
might
be,
and
it
could
be
that
we
don't
end
up
with
500
dwellings
that
people
can
purchase
to
live
in
or
necessarily
rent
could
be
aged
care,
which
I'd
actually
welcome.
So
I
think
there's
a
little
bit
of
I
don't
think
qyc
and
the
premier
necessarily
on
the
same
page.
A
But
the
reason
why
I
wanted
to
modify
c
is
because,
if
you
have
a
look
at
the
mapped
area
of
the
proposed
footprint
for
the
games
village,
you
will
see
it
is
much
much
much
much
more
expansive
than
just
the
four
towers
that
are
proposed
to
the
village,
and
my
worry
is
that
if
yeah
we
could
bring
it
up.
Thank
you
very
much
for
bringing
that
up.
A
A
But
the
state
gets
to
do
whatever
they
want
on
the
balance
and
it's
important
that
we
do
that
or
take
that
opportunity,
because
the
current
legislation
doesn't
provide
for
any
community
feedback
or
any
public
submissions.
So
that's
the
purpose
of
that
first
amendment,
mr
chairman,
and
then
the
second,
which
is
that
part
d.
A
I
just
want
to
flag
that
city
officers
still
have
on
some
unanswered
questions
around
the
infrastructure
capacity
in
the
area
which
will
be
answered
through
this
robina
central
planning
review.
But
if
you
have
a
look
at
the
lgip
that
we've
endorsed
it's
gone
out
to
community
consultation
will
be
returned
to
us.
There
are
a
number
of
multi-million
dollar
road
projects
which
are,
in
my
view,
required
today,
including
the
driver,
have
been
a
parkway
intersection
which
has
moved
at
a
35
million
cost.
That's
actually
planned
to
be
delivered
in
2031..
A
What's
the
likelihood
of
the
state
government
permitting
us
to
deliver
an
infrastructure
project
of
that
scale
within
a
stone's
throw
of
their
village
within
months
of
the
olympic
games?
I
would
say
it's
going
to
be
zero
so,
to
the
extent
that
there
may
be
a
conflict
with
delivering
these
infrastructure
projects
around
2031
around
robina.
A
I
think
we
should
be
making
the
case
to
the
state
government
that
they
should
be
supporting
the
bringing
forward
of
those
projects
so
that
we
deliver
the
algae
need,
while
not
conflicting
with
their
games,
because,
mr
chairman,
the
rocket
intersection
was
two
weeks
from
breaking
ground
for
recon
for
redesign
and
upgrade
two
weeks,
and
this
council
had
to
pull
the
pin
on
that
project
and
redesign
it.
It
should
have
been
delivered
three
years
ago
and
we're
only
going
to
break
ground
at
the
end
of
this
financial
year
because
of
the
olympic
games.
A
F
Through
you,
mr
chair,
the
2031
you
spoke
off
councillor
vorster,
is
that
from
the
lg
2
program?
Isn't
that
a
five-year
cohort
period
ending
in
2031.
A
It
is
but
having
spoken
with
city
offices,
we've
got
a
pipeline
of
upgrades
that
need
to
happen
before
that,
and
I'm
told
that
it's
2031..
Okay,
thank
you
and
it's
on
that
basis
I
think,
and
besides
the
fact
that
they're,
the
ones
inducing
all
of
the
traffic
into
the
area,
yeah
yeah.
F
A
So
we
presently
or
prior
to
the
council
endorsement
of
the
budget,
we
actually
had
no
money
to
progress
even
looking
at
a
design
for
that
35
million
upgrade,
but
the
council
and
its
wisdom,
and
I'm
very
grateful
to
it-
allocated
500
000
dollars
to
accelerate
the
design
work
of
that
intersection
precisely
so
that
we
could
ask
the
state
government
to
make
a
contribution.
Thank
you.
C
Thanks
chairman
in
noting
that
the
premier's
response
to
our
correspondent
suggested
that
the
government
looks
forward
to
continuing
engagement
with
the
gold
coast
city
council
as
the
robina
central
review
proceeds,
I'm
just
asking
through
you
to
the
officers.
If
there
has
been
any
engagement
with
the
government
and
how
that
process
is
going
to
proceed,
which
requires
their
participation.
N
Yep
through
the
chair,
we
certainly
have
been
engaging
with
the
government
so
most
recently,
I
think
it's
tuesday.
We
had
a
meeting
with
them
and
that's
with
multiple
state
entities.
So
the
state
entities
look
after
legislation,
as
well
as
the
regional
planning
team,
as
like
the
state
office
for
regional
planning,
and
the
purpose
of
those
meetings
is
really
just
to
clarify
who
our
lead
point
of
contact
will
be
in
the
state
and
how
they'll
coordinate
the
various
state
interests
that
would
have
an
interest
in
robina.
N
C
It
sounds
like
the
officers
are
totally
across
it.
I
have
an
seq
regional
planning
workshop
tomorrow
with
all
of
the
mayors
of
southeast
queensland,
and
I'm
I
was
thinking
there
was,
would
be
an
opportunity
in
emerging
issues
to
raise
any
issue
that
we
may
have
if
it
wasn't
being
already
addressed.
But
it
sounds
to
me
like
it's
in
hand
and
we're
in
good
shape.
B
So
I
don't
have
my
local
law
meeting
rules
handy,
but
I
think
we'll
table
the
correspondence
from
the
premiere
sure
and
that
can
be
included
in
the
minutes.
B
So
if
you
can
just
make
sure
that
a
copy
gets
to
the
forces
after
all,
right
any
other
questions.
Otherwise
you're
happy
with
that
council
of
foster
so
moved
by
council
of
also,
I
think
second
by
council
young
will
take
the
vote
all
in
favor
against
carried.
B
H
Just
wondering
if
there's
an
opportunity
for
the
officers
to
give
us
a
bit
of
a
talk
on
what's
happening
with
amendments
two
and
three
saying
it's
been
since
the
beginning
of
the
year
and
there's
been
a
couple
of
extensions
and
the
state
government
seemed
to
be
delaying
delaying
and
I'm
just
wondering
what
the
latest
is
and
I'm
sure
that
you
know
I'm
getting
asked
questions
about
it.
B
Yeah,
I
mean
look,
we
all
are
and
there's
a
housing
crisis-
that's
looming,
if
not
already
here.
I
think
people
are
expecting
action
from
the
state
government.
So
richard
do
you
want
to
deal
with
that
now
or
should
we
deal
with
it
after
the
meeting?
B
We
can
do
it
after
the
meeting
yeah.
I
thought
you
might
say
that
so
we'll
just
deal
with
that
at
the
conclusion
council
of
ulster.
A
Thanks,
mr
chairman,
look
just
for
the
sake
of
completeness.
I
just
want
to
flag
with
all
councils
who
participate
in
the
the
heritage
and
we're
talking
about
green
heart.
A
The
the
drains
on
the
green
heart
were
actually
mentioned
on
page
14
of
the
master
plan,
and
there
are
one
two
three
four
five
very
slender
drains
across
the
site,
so
the
lifestyle
and
community
director
will
reach
out
to
the
heritage
team,
who
were
involved
in
the
development
of
the
master
plan,
just
to
make
sure
that
we
are
properly
mapping
those
assets
and
not
necessarily
casting
an
extremely
wide
net.
Okay,
so
I
just
want
to
thank
their
heritage
team
who
were
across
it,
but
also
the
lifestyle
team
who
were
across
it.
Thanks.