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A
It's
902
we'll
open
the
meeting
and
we
welcome
our
member
councillors.
As
I
said,
councillor
pj
young
is
running
a
little
bit
late
this
morning
and
we
welcome
councillor
counselor,
bald
and
lumsden
and
councillor
mcdonald
as
visitors
this
morning,
and
we
welcome
and
thank
you
for
your
interest
in
planning
and
environment.
A
All
right,
counselors
we've
got
a
number
of
start
items.
We
don't
have
any
apologies
and
there's
no
leaves
of
absence.
So
confirmation
of
minutes
do
you
want
to
just
deal
with
that
separately?
Would
someone
like
to
move
the
confirmation
of
the
minutes
moved
by
councillor
gates
seconded
by
councillor?
A
I
neil
oh
councillor,
vorster,
take
the
vote
all
in
favor
against
carried
a
councillor's
conflict
of
interest
declarations,
council.
B
Of
worster,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman,
mr
chairman,
today
on
item
6.2,
we'll
be
dealing
with
the
neighborhood
framework,
broad
beach
to
burley
heads
corridor,
community
reference
group,
engagement
outcomes
and
draft
station
neighborhood
concept
plans.
B
B
I
have
three
parties
which
could
have
a
an
interest
in
the
matter
that
being
a
friend
and
electoral
donor,
who
donated
three
thousand
dollars
to
my
campaign
in
2016
11th
of
january,
a
friend
who,
who
owns
an
apartment,
an
investment
apartment
along
the
corridor
and
also
friends
through
my
wife
who
own
a
development
site
for
which
councils
already
granted
me
the
ability
to
participate
in
decisions
concerning
that
site
without
restriction.
B
I
wrote
to
the
city
solicitor
seeking
advice
about
whether
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest
was
warranted,
and
the
advice
that
I
received
on
all
three
counts
is
that
I
do
not
need
to
make
a
declaration
pursuant
to
section
150
ef-2a
on
all
three
accounts,
because
the
matter
deals
with
an
area
that
well
sorry.
The
matter
affects
a
significant
number
of
people
in
the
local
government
area
and
therefore
attracts
an
exemption.
B
I
thought
I
don't
intend
to
make
a
declaration
based
on
the
advice
that
I've
received
from
the
city
solicitor,
which
mirrored
my
own
reflections,
but
I
thought
I'd
bring
it
to
the
committee's
decision
as
attention
in
case
there
were
further
questions
or
someone
would
like
to
move
a
procedural
motion.
Otherwise,.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
That's
that's
my
decision
and
just
to
give
you
some
comfort.
The
three
lines
here
from
the
city
solicitor
is
your
first
dcoi
relates
to
item
6.2
and
the
electoral
donation
you
received
from
your
friend.
In
my
view,
you
do
not
need
to
make
this
declaration
dot
dot
dot
dot.
Your
second
dcoi
also
relates
to
item
6.2
and
an
investment
property
owned
by
your
friend
in
the
subject
area.
In
my
view,
you
do
not
need
to
make
this
declaration
dot
dot,
dot
dot.
B
Your
third
dcoi
again
relates
to
item
6.2
and
a
future
development
site
and
subject
area
owned
by
your
friends.
In
my
view,
you
do
not
need
to
make
this
declaration.
A
C
And
in
relation
to
a
donation
received
from
place
design,
the
first
one
in
2011
for
1410,
the
second
in
2014
for
1850
and
the
third
in
2016
for
1850.
That
was
fully
refunded.
C
C
Place
design
consultants
who
have
been
appointed
on
behalf
of
council
to
provide
information
relative
to
the
the
investigations.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman,
through
you
to
council
gates,
could
I
just
understand?
I
suppose
I
want
us
to
take
a
consistent
approach
to
declarations
on
this
matter,
because
I
understand
how
you've
drawn
a
distinction
between
my
potential
declarations
and
your
own
and
whether
or
not
a
the
same
sort
of
exemption
may
apply
to
you
as
I've
been
advising.
C
I
don't
believe
so,
because
I've
had
three
donations
over
three
years
and
in
my
understanding
it
is
necessary
in
those
circumstances,
even
though
I
fully
refunded
the
2016
amount,
that's
not
respected
as
nullifying
that
donation
under
the
legislation.
So
I
we
are
being
consistent.
I
have
not
failed
to
make
a
declaration
in
this
regard
on
any
matter
where
place
design
has
been
involved
purely
as
a
consultant
which
is
interesting
because
they
get
paid,
regardless
of
any
decision
that
we
make
around
this
chamber,
but
they're
the
rules
and
that's
what
I
do.
Yeah.
A
C
Well,
my
my
last
name,
my
last
donation
received
was
after
the
2016
election.
It
was
in
november
of
that
year.
I
presume
yours
was
in
the
lead
up
to
the
2016
election,
which
means
no
provisions
from
the
relevant
term
apply
to
you,
which
is
why
I'm
not
concerned,
I
don't
believe
they
actually
apply
to
me
either,
but
the
legislation
does
so.
I
will
continue
to
make
these
declarations.
A
C
Date
triggers
it
for
me,
even
though
I
fully
refunded
the
entire
amount,
it
still
triggers.
For
me,
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest.
Okay
and
the
city
solicitor
has
given
me
that
advice
previously.
So
I'm
acting
on
her
advice
that
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest
does
exist.
B
So
it
appears
to
me,
then,
that
the
difference
in
approach
comes
on
the
back
of
different
advice
from
the
city
solicitor
and
the
timing
of
a
donation.
Yes,
okay,
yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Council.
A
Gates:
okay,
so
I'm
happy
to
move
the
council
gates
should
participate
in
the
decision
despite
the
council's
conflict
of
interest,
because
the.
A
A
A
A
C
A
C
C
Can
I
also
advise
the
committee
that
in
item
6.3,
there
are
mentions
of
the
same
company
again
as
being
a
supporter
of
the
program,
but
I
did
seek
advice
from
the
city
solicitor
and
she
tells
me
that
gold
coast
open
house
is
a
not-for-profit
incorporated
association
run
by
a
volunteer
committee
of
dedicated
architects
professionals
etc,
and
no
one
mentioned
in
the
the
group
is
listed
as
members,
so
no
declarations
are
required.
Sunland
is
also
mentioned
in
that
group,
but
I've
checked
with
the
city
solicitor
and
no
conflicts
are
required
declarations.
A
A
It
was
a
way
in
motion:
green
train,
okay,
so
we've
just
councillor
young
we've
just
dealt
with
the
potential
conflict
of
interest
declarations.
Did
you
have
anything
in
that
you
needed
to
all
right,
any
other
conflicts
of
interest
counselors
before
we
move
on
all
right,
so
we
have
a
number
of
start
items:
6.16,
6.3,
6.5
and
6.6.
Did
anyone
want
to
unstar
any
of
those?
And
I
don't
know.
A
A
So
if
we
can
unstar
the
light
item
to
do
with
rabina,
which
6.7
so
1
star
6.7,
anyone
else
want
to
unstar
any
of
the
other
start
items.
6.1.
Thank
you
counts
right
now,
all
right,
so
that
leaves
6.3
6.5
6.6.
A
Just
have
a
short
presentation:
do
you
think
I
think
maybe.
F
As
you
can
see
there,
the
site
is
located
on
the
edge
of
the
medium
density
residential
zone
west
of
the
gold
coast
highway
down
there
in
tugan,
not
too
far
from
the
tug
and
both
club
surrounding
the
site
is
predominantly
residential
dwellings.
Dwellings,
predominantly
at
this
point
in
time,
views
to
the
east
over
towards
the
coast.
F
I've
also
included
on
that
slide
there,
where
a
couple
of
the
properly
made
submissions
were
received
from
the
application
today
is
proposing
a
partial
third
sorry,
a
full
third
story:
dual
occupancy,
a
dual
occupancy
land
use,
is
an
accepted
subject
to
requirements
use
within
the
medium
density
residential
zone.
However,
this
application
seeks
to
establish
a
dual
occupancy
that
has
a
12.2
metre
building
height
that
exceeds
the
nine
meter
height
designation,
and
it
also
proposes
a
full
third
story.
A
F
That
might
be
best
demonstrated
canceller
through
this
slide
here
or
actually
the
other
side
there.
That's
the
the
high
side,
the
sights
obviously
got
a
bit
of
slope
from
the
front
to
rear,
so
we're
looking
at
the
the
top
portion
there
at
the
highest
level
at
that
back
section
of
the
uppermost
level
is
where
the
height
of
the
proposal
is
12.2
meters.
F
D
Cancer
and
jones
so
on
that
same
slide,
the
height
of
the
existing
building
on
site.
F
The
height
of
the
existing
building
on
site
is
about
10
meters,
as
you
can
see
there
at
the
rear
9.92
metres,
so
it
is
quite
a
high
building
already.
If
we
go
back
to.
F
This
slide
here,
that's
the
existing
building
on
site.
There
is
a
dwelling
house,
it
already
is
quite
a
quite
a
prominent
building
on
the
street
and
over
the
nine
metre
prescribed
building
height
already.
F
We're
looking
at
about
two
meters,
two
meters,
roughly
yep,
in
considering
the
impacts
of
this
application,
like
we've,
got
here
in
the
highlighted
section
of
these
slides.
It's
really
those
portions
there
that
you
can
see
on
the
screen
now
that
are
above
the
nine
meter
prescribed
building
height.
F
Also
noting
that
the
setback
to
the
street
was
increased
and
in
response
to
council's
information
request,
they
had
to
drop
the
height
of
the
proposal,
a
to
comply
with
the
airport
environment
and
overlay
code
and
to
reduce
the
mass
of
the
building,
and
I
think
that
ended
up
being
approximately
1.5
metre.
Lowering
of
the
height
overall.
F
That
would
allow
them
to
get
to
a
height
of
13
and
a
half
meters
and
three
stories
subject
to
complying
with
the
outcomes
of
specific
outcome.
3.3.2.1.9
adh
officers
believe
that
they
do
comply
with
those
requirements
for
a
number
of
reasons
which
I'll
touch
on
a
couple
quickly.
F
There
are
a
number
of
of
three
story:
developments
within
the
area-
I
wouldn't
say
it's
the
predominant
character,
but
there
are
examples
of
it:
the
site,
slopes
down
significantly
from
front
to
rear
and
they've
set
the
building
down
away
from
the
streetscape,
so
it
presents
pretty
much
as
a
two-story
development
from
the
street.
F
F
A
key
one
for
me
was
also
the
fact
that
a
lot
of
the
development
around
that
area
is
orientated
out
towards
the
coast.
To
take
advantage
of
the
views,
so
even
the
neighbouring
dwellings,
while
I
will
be
adjacent
to
something
that's
a
little
bit
higher
than
the
existing
dwelling
on
the
site,
all
of
their
windows
and
main
living
areas
are
orientated
out
towards
the
coast.
So
officers
didn't
believe
that
there
was
any
significant
amenity
or
character
impacts
as
a
result
of
the
additional
height.
F
F
Interestingly,
all
the
letters
of
objection,
including
the
petition,
submitted
the
same
identical
letter
template
with
an
individual
signature
at
the
bottom.
The
matters
raised
in
those
submissions
included
non-compliance
with
the
uplift
test.
Privacy
site
cover
shadow
impacts,
building
height
car
parking
and
streetscape
character.
F
C
Thanks
chair
through
you
chairman,
can
you
just
explain
to
me
how
the
car
parking
the
access
to
the
garage
of
unit
1
works?
Is
there
a
double
driveway
access
that
serves
both
of
those
garages
or.
F
F
C
F
Through
the
chair,
there's
only
one
driveway
access,
which
you
might
be
able
to
see
from
this
3d
perspective
on
the
screen.
It
comes
down
close
to
the
fence
line
there,
and
then
they
drive
around
to
access
the
garage
to
unit
two.
So
one
of
the
sorry
unit,
one
one
of
the
garages
could
one
of
the
units
could
drive
straight
into
their
double
garage.
F
F
Accessibility
to
that
car
park-
yes,
through
the
chair,
we
we
got
them
to
demonstrate,
swept
paths
that
they
could
achieve.
Access
to
unit
two
transport
officers
were
comfortable
with
those
aspects.
A
A
While
chris
is
coming
out,
cancer
booster
thanks,
mr.
B
Chairman,
maybe
you
can
tack
this
on
to
your
question
of
chris.
I
didn't
see
in
the
report,
maybe
because
I
skimmed
past,
that
particular
relevant
section.
But
what
protections
do
we
put
in
place
for
the
one
unit
owner
that
has
to
cross
that
driveway?
I
mean
if
the
one
unit
has
guests
over
and
they've
parked
in
the
driveway.
You
could
create
access
issues
for
that
second
dwelling
and
I'm
thinking
of
everything
from
emergency
vehicles
to
visitors,
yeah,
kids,
bikes.
F
I'll
try
and
answer
that
one
through
the
chair
and
if,
if
I
don't
satisfy
you
council
of
austin,
perhaps
chris
can
comment
but
generally
speaking,
for
a
dual
occupancy
development,
we
don't
require
easements
for
reciprocal
access
rights
for
one
unit
owner
versus
the
other.
It's
generally
a
fairly
well-known
arrangement
by
the
residents
that
live
there.
F
A
C
D
G
B
And
then
council's
intervention
is
required
and
that
anyway,
I
just
ended
up
with
all
sorts
of
police
complaints
and
all
of
that
repeatedly
I'd.
It
would
have
been
much
easier
if
there
was
an
actual
accident
easement
registered
or
something
in
the
actual
development
approval
that
precluded
one
household
from
blocking
the
driveway,
so
that
we
could
intervene
like
have
standing
to
intervene.
A
F
Agreed
through
the
chair,
there
is
no
ability
for
someone
to
to
sneak
around
the
driveway,
but,
like
councillor
caldwell
mentioned,
we,
we
generally
insist
on
a
single
access
driveway,
particularly
where
the
frontage
width
isn't
over
20
meters.
So
it's
a
it's
a
fairly
standard
practice
for
dual
occupancy.
So,
mr
chairman,
through.
B
You
I'm
I'm
very
comfortable
and
happy
with
the
single
driveway,
because
we
don't
want
to
reduce
on-street
car
parking
right
totally,
get
that
I'm
totally
on
board.
B
A
Can
we
just
go
back
to
the
to
the
actual
physical
access
question?
There's
a
there's,
a
duplex
on
bayview
street
at
runaway
bay,
which
has
two
garage
doors
facing
each
other
with
some
degree
of
separation,
and
it's
quite
apparent
to
me
that
they
cannot
maneuver
themselves
into
the
garage.
They
certainly
can't
get
two
cars
in
there
on
a
regular
basis
because
they
end
up
parking
in
front
of
the
driveway
door.
A
D
Mr
mr
chair
for
residence,
one
opposite
the
garage
and
it
I
don't
think
it
shows
on
any
of
the
drawings
in
the
presentation.
Probably
not
does
it
does.
D
If
you've
got
the
hard
copy
there
yeah,
it
shows
a
turnaround,
they
opposite
the
garage
so
what
they
can
do
if
they've
got
a
larger
car
is
swing
around
into
the
turning
bay
and
then
reverse
back
into
their
garage,
or
they
can
do
that
in
reverse
order.
They
can
drive
forward
into
their
garage
and
then
reverse
back
into
the
turning
bay
to
assist
them.
A
D
A
E
E
Yes-
and
it
has
got
residents
of
the
street
quite
concerned,
mainly
mainly
for
the-
I
think
it's
the
the
design,
not
so
much
of
the
of
the
garage
but
of
the
actual
building
itself,
because
it's
they
don't
consider
that
it's
the
sense
of
place,
the
next
door.
Neighbor,
I
believe,
is
lodging
something
similar.
E
So
I
think
I
think,
the
intent
of
of
the
50
uplift
this.
This
is
what
we're
going
to
see
in
res
in
medium
density,
residential
streets,
because
it
is
the
designs
are
different.
Architecture
is
different
and
it
will
be
different
to
the
normal
nine
metre
buildings
that
are
there.
Now
I'm.
I
was
very
happy
when
they,
when
they
did
reduce
their
setbacks,
as
they
were
asked
to
do
and
their
front
setback
is
now.
Eight
meters,
which
is
great
they've,
actually
done
a
lot
to
satisfy
the
information
requests
that
were
sent
to
them.
E
I
don't
know
I
I
can't
put
up
a
refusal.
I
really
can't
the
concern
with
the
residents
is
mainly
the
50
uplift
and
whether
it
meets
the
requirement.
E
I
think
the
the
assessing
planners
have
done
a
a
pretty
good
job
in
assessing
it
and
and
I'm
happy
to
to
move
it.
The
garage,
I
didn't
think
was
a
problem
because,
because
of
the
that,
the
turning
back
so.
E
E
A
A
C
Chairman,
could
I
foreshadow
a
change
that
suggests
the
redesign
of
the
driveway
access
to
provide
equal
accessibility
for
each
dwelling,
because
there's
as
councillor
anila
said,
there's
an
eight
metre
setback
they've
got
plenty
of
room
to
work
within
that
area
to
provide
a
central
driveway
that
allows
access
to
each
unit.
C
Equally,
I
would
imagine
the
only
reason
it's
designed
in
the
way
it
is
is
to
allow
the
subdivision
to
occur
up
the
track,
and
perhaps
I
don't
know
whether
that
could
still
occur
if,
if
that
were
the
case,
but
I
would
like
to
foreshadow
that
change
and
see
how
it
goes.
A
F
Through
the
chair
that
would
require
a
change
to
their
design.
You
may
see
from
this
elevation
here.
They've
got
a
central
pedestrian
access
that
you
can
see
there
through
the
middle
that
provides
their
pedestrian
access
to
the
property
so
that
if
they
were
to
have
a
centralized
driveway,
they
they'd
have
to
remove
that
portion,
I'm
not
sure
about
the
maneuvering
to
car
parks.
F
I
guess,
if
we're
keeping
the
same
single
driveway,
but
just
shifting
its
location,
they
may
still
have
the
ability
to
have
that
landscaping,
but
it
will
probably
be
at
the
sides,
as
opposed
to
the
middle,
where
we
thought
it
was
providing
a
greater
softening
effect
to
the
building.
So
cancer.
E
A
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
guess
it's
balancing
up
the
value
of
opening
up
the
driveway
access
versus
the
softening
of
the
landscape,
and
then
not
I
mean
at
this
point
in
time.
The
car
parks
are
barely
barely
visible,
which
might
be
a
preferable
outcome,
but.
D
No
pressure,
yeah,
that's
that's
right!
The
the
dimensions
are
minimum
in
accordance
with
australian
standard
and
really
to
assist
the
residents.
One
they've
provided
that
turning
bait.
Just
you
know
to
provide
that
extra
maneuverability
maneuverability
for
the
residents
to
get
in
and
out
all
right
cancer
guides.
Why.
A
Don't
we
maybe
just
leave
it,
as
is
for
now
I'll,
let
councillor
o'neal
move
it
in
its
current
form
and
then
perhaps
if
we
can
just
turn
our
minds
to,
if
there's
some
improvement
that
could
be
made
between
now
and
full
council.
A
Having
heard
what
some
of
the
issues
are,
I
think
that
might
be
helpful.
You
happy
with
that
cancer.
O'neill
council
guys
are
you,
okay
with
that
you
can
still.
If
you
want
to
formally
move
an
amendment,
I
think
that's
okay,
but
we
don't
actually
have
a
solution
to
put
up
so
we'll
move
the
recommendation
by
council
o'neal
someone
like
to
second
that
counselor
owen
jones
counselor
now
did
you
want
to
speak
to
it.
C
It's
it's
been
discussed
unless
there
were
issues
and-
and
I
mean
I-
I
established
that
as
an
issue
just
from
glancing
at
my
agenda
at
home.
But
you
know
because
we
deal
with
these
issues
over
and
over
again,
but
if
council
o'neil's
happy
and
the
officers
think
it
works,
I'm
happy
to
just
not
vote
for
it.
A
H
Good
morning,
through
the
chair
councillors
today,
we
just
want
to
provide
you
with
a
short
presentation
to
update
you
on
the
status
of
the
neighborhood
framework
project.
This
will
include
an
update
on
the
recent
community
reference
group
meetings
that
we've
held
the
draft
concept
plans
that
have
been
developed
through
that
process
and
our
proposal
for
an
additional
tailored
engagement
activity
on
the
draft
concept
plans
prior
to
their
finalization.
H
So
just
a
quick
background
for
councillors.
In
august,
2021
council
endorsed
the
neighborhood
framework,
which
was
the
strategy
document
for
the
broad
beach
to
burly
heads
corridor.
Council
also
endorsed
a
short
list
of
community
reference
group
candidates
and
since
then,
city
planning
has
continued
on
and
completed
those
eight
community
reference
group
meetings.
Four
for
each
area.
H
We
also
had
discussions
about
good
growth
allocation
talking
about
the
areas
within
these
neighborhoods,
where
building
categories
that
are
highly
appropriate
could
be
allocated
to
cater
for
additional
dwellings,
and
this
then
rolled
into
some
infrastructure
discussions
with
those
groups
where
members
talked
about
the
type
of
infrastructure
support
that
would
be
needed
in
these
neighborhoods
as
more
people
call
them
home
offices
from
across
the
organization
from
different
network
areas
also
joined
us
in
these
meetings
and
provided
some
specialist
advice
relating
to
parks,
open
space,
transport,
stormwater,
placemaking
and
more
in
crg
meeting
three,
we
discussed
how
the
neighborhood
form
could
be
shaped
within
the
building
form
categories
that
we
discussed
at
the
previous
meeting.
H
Then,
for
our
final
meeting
for
crg4,
we
met
with
the
group
and
we
provided
them
with
a
bit
of
a
snapshot
of
the
first
draft
of
the
concept
plans
and
held
a
q
a
session
with
the
crg
members.
We
also
discussed
how
the
group
feels
and
thinks
that
the
concepts
fair
against
some
of
the
benchmarks
that
we
set
out
with
at
the
start.
H
So,
overall,
there
was
a
great
deal
of
diversity
in
the
views
amongst
the
participants
in
the
groups.
We
noticed
that
even
at
each
table
there
were
different
views
about
the
preferred
options
for
the
future
of
these
neighborhoods,
and
so,
although
those
views
varied,
the
groups
had
very
robust,
very
respectful
discussions
that
provided
us
with
a
lot
to
consider
and
incorporate
into
the
draft
plans.
H
So,
today,
officers
are
proposing
a
final
round
of
tailored
engagement
on
the
draft
concept
plans.
This
was
not
included
in
our
additional
engagement
plan.
However,
we're
now
recommending
circling
back
to
the
survey
respondents
who
engaged
with
the
neighborhood
framework
project
in
2021,
particularly
those
who
stated
that
they
wanted
to
be
kept
updated
on
the
project
so
of
the
1826
survey.
H
This
feedback
will
enable
us
to
update
the
concept
plans
based
on
that
feedback
and
whilst
there
will
still
be
a
formal
submission,
engagement
carried
out
as
part
of
a
future
city
plan
update
package
doing
this
during
a
tailored
engagement
stage
provides
us
with
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
more
easily
and
readily
incorporate
that
feedback.
H
H
H
There
is
no
additional
expansion
of
the
areas
for
mixed
use
or
centers
proposed
in
this
map.
However,
new
opportunities
on
those
sites
in
the
mixed
use
and
neighborhood
zones
have
expanded
because
of
the
newly
proposed
building
height
opportunities.
There.
H
It
is
important
to
note
that
in
the
knobby
beach
miami
north
area,
that
there
are
no
new
high-rise
buildings
proposed
across
the
entire
area,
with
maximum
heights
of
33
metres
allocated
on
limited
sites,
this
is
in
line
with
a
very
strong
community
response.
Supporting
this
in
the
initial
survey,
areas
of
15
meters
and
below
will
be
appropriate
for
the
low
medium
zone
proposed
within
major
update,
2
and
3..
This
may
provide
opportunities
for
more
housing,
choice,
options
and
missing
middle
product
and
outcomes
that
are
designed
to
be
compatible
with
the
existing
low
density
dwellings.
B
A
And
sorry
as
well,
we've
got
to
pause
just
when
you
say
no
new
high
rises
and
we've
got
the
33
meters
there.
When
you
say,
there's
no
new.
Is
that
because
that's
an
existing
light
parameter
in
that
location.
H
A
A
So
I
think
we
should
just
make
it
clear
that
the
expectation
is
in
those
locations
is
something
up
to
say
10
stories
and
the
community
should,
depending
on
their
view
of
what
a
high
rise
might
be
from
a
community
perspective.
That
might
be
just
something
we
should
clarify
for
the
record
councillor
belle
lumsen.
F
Quick
point
on
that
chair
is
this
area
still
afforded
the
50
uplift.
H
So
our
intent
is
that
the
areas
where
we
have
found
the
appropriate
height,
the
50
uplift
test,
would
not
apply
here.
So
the
the
heights
that
we
have
come
to,
if
endorsed,
will
be
the
maximum
heights.
A
So
council
bottoms-
and
you
might
remember
some
comments
that
I
made
at
full
council-
I
think
last
week
on
that
point
so
where
we've
got
a
fresh
body
of
work
that
can
justify
the
height
limit
being
maintained
as
the
absolute
limit.
That's
what
we
would
try
and
do
cancer
on
jones
and
council
mcdonald.
D
Like
I
mean,
I
think
I
think
part
of
the
challenge
we've
had
is
explaining
to
people
that
we
don't
have
a
prescriptive
screen
scheme
and
that
the
50
is
that
absolute
handbrake,
but
is
there
any
benefit
at
all
in
having
even
a
minor
amount
to
allow
for
a
small
amount
of
flexibility
which
comes
from
time
to
time.
A
D
A
I
would
say
that
the
most
valuable
thing
for
us
to
do
would
be
to
get
some
legal
advice
on
that
point,
but
yeah
I'm
I'm
happy
to
consider
it
because
I
think
the
whole
purpose
of
the
50
in
the
2016
scheme
was
without
broadly
changing
the
heights
across
the
city,
because
we
didn't
undertake
a
whole
of
city
height
review,
to
try
and
provide
some
limitations
so
that
the
things
that
were
happening
under
the
old
scheme
towards
the
end
of
its
life,
which
were
10
15
stories
in
a
three-story
zone,
could
not
occur
in
people's
backyards.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
was
going
to
ask
the
question
about
the
50
uplift.
With
the
height
you
either
have
the
height
or
you
don't.
You
know
what
we've
seen
before
once
you
start
allowing
three
meters
applications
come
in
for
10
meters,
so
you
you
either
have
a
cut-off
point
or
you
don't.
A
Yes,
I
mean
the
problem
was
that
in
the
o3
scheme
we
had
a
cut-off
point
and
it
was
impact
to
forever
above
that.
So
it
actually
wasn't
a
cut-off
point,
and
so
you
know
it's
trying
to
work
our
way
through
a
performance
based
scheme
counselor
gates
and
also
in
a
way
that
the
site
will
sign
off
on
it.
A
C
A
C
It
was
just
a
thought
that
the
state
had
found
that
50
uplift
acceptable,
so
it
might
be
the
best
angle
to
attack
it.
Given
that
we
don't
have
a
prescriptive
scheme,
and
we
can't
say
that
23
metres,
for
example,
will
be
it.
G
Thank
you
and
through
the
chair-
and
I
just
on
that
point-
it
was
quite
evident
and
and
in
listening
to
what
council
macdonald
said,
one
of
the
biggest
bug
bears
for
the
people
in
the
room
was
that
50
uplift
they
would
actually
far
more
want
to
know
what
a
height
is,
and
they
actually
identif
actually
identified
to
us
too,
that
not
everyone
chooses
to
go
to
the
maximum
height
on
their
site.
G
Quite
a
few
people
choose
in
that
room
actually
said
we
choose
to
under
develop
our
sites
because
we
don't
want
to
be
the
same
as
everybody
else
in
the
area.
So
there
was
the
support,
more
support
for
actually
having
a
more
definitive
height.
I
can
understand
what
council
owned
jones
was
saying.
We
know
what
lift
wells
in
that
can
do,
but
there
was
also
people
in
the
area.
That
said,
regardless
of
whether
it's
six
or
eight
stories,
we
actually
only
want
to
build
two
three-story
dual
occupancies
on
our
site.
G
So
not
everyone
chooses
to
over
develop
the
site,
and
I
think-
and
I
for
one
I'm
guilty
of
it.
It's
when
we
get
caught
up
in
in
the
room
here,
everything
that
we
actually
see
is
people
who
are
pushing
it
to
the
absolute
maximum
boundary.
But
not
everyone
wants
to
over
develop,
and
we
also
know
about
amalgamating
sites
is
not
always
as
easy
to
do
and
going
forward.
I
think
it
will
be
more
difficult
because
of
of
the
way
the
real
estate
market
is
so
it's
just
anyhow.
It
was
just
some
feedback.
C
Sorry,
chairman,
I'm
just
not
sure
that
everyone
understands
the
the
performance-based
scheme
that
we
have
and
that
these
heights
might
be
what
we
think
it
should
sit
at.
But
if
someone
lodges
an
impact
accessible
application,
then
the
likelihood
is
they
can
apply
for
whatever
they
want
and
the
only
way
that
we
can
be
absolute
has
proven
to
be
through
the
50
percent,
whereby
we
stipulate
that
that
is
going
to
be
the
absolute
maximum
and,
in
my
experience,
we've
never
varied
from
that
extra
50.
C
B
Thanks,
mr
chairman,
and
I
will
defer
to
the
the
local
council-
has
been
so
involved
in
this
process,
but
but
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
this
absurd
situation
in
my
own
division,
where
council
had
a
very
contemporary
approval
for
a
building
and
before
that
building
was
constructed,
council
used
the
fact
that
we
had
an
approval
for
that
building
to
then
go
approve
additional
height
on
top
of
a
non-existent
development
on
the
basis
that
this
earlier
stage
of
the
tower
had
been
approved,
and
now
my
community's
settled
with
this
extraordinarily
large
and
bulky
building
on
a
busy
roundabout
on
the
basis
that
it's
a
great
gateway
to
my
suburb,
couldn't
disagree
more
had
I
had
the
benefit
of
the
50
up
50
uplift
test,
then
maybe
that
approval
wouldn't
have
got
up
over
the
line.
B
So
I
think
we
should
take
advantage
of
every
opportunity
to
provide
residents
with
some
certainty
and
if
that
means
using
this
50
measure,
that
the
state's
on
board
with
we
should
look
at
it
because,
through
you,
mr
chairman,
to
council
pauline
young,
my
sense
reading
the
crg
is
that
there
is
support
up
to
this
height
and
people
are
looking
for
certainty.
I
Thank
you.
My
concern
is:
this
is
all
a
little
academic
at
the
moment,
because,
whilst
the
state
government
is
not
bothering
to
look
at
our
city
plan
amendments,
whether
they're
taking
seriously
our
our
caps
on
our
finite
targets
on
the
targeted
growth
areas,
we
have
no
idea.
So
I
have
a
question
through
you
chair,
first
of
all,
when
you,
when
you
this
last
round,
what
what
are
you
calling
it
tailored
or
do
you
want
to
go
to
those
questions
now
or
do
you
are
you
finished.
I
A
I
mean
the
most
important
thing
we
can
do
is
talk
to
our
community,
get
their
input
up
front,
which
is
what
we've
done.
If
the
state
chooses
to
go
on
some
sort
of
frolic
that
doesn't
reflect
what
our
community
wants
and
what
we,
as
a
council,
think
is
the
best
representation
of
that,
then
that
will
ultimately
be
on
them.
A
Let
well,
let's
just
keep
going
with
the
presentation.
We'll
come.
Let's
just
wait
unless
you've
got
something
about
one
of
those
dots
on
the
map.
E
That
we
should
also
consider
mr
chair,
the
what
we've
got
to
keep
in
mind
with
the
50
uplift
and
what's
been
happening
throughout
the
city
and
in
my
division.
Two
is
that
applicants
have
been
coming
in
applying
for
a
code
assessable
application
once
they
get
that
code
accessible
soon,
as
that
application
is
approved,
they're
then
coming
in
for
under
the
50
percent
uplift.
So
I
think
you've
got
to
keep
that
in
mind
when
you're
looking
at
the
50
uplift,
because
it's
certainly
a
different
level
of
assessment
between
code
assessable
and
impact
accessible.
E
So
when
they
come
in
for
the
50
uplift
over
there
say
29
meters,
it's
only
that
extra
few
meters,
it's
impact,
it's
not
the
whole
building.
G
I
just
want
a
thank
you
chair
and
just
one
comment
on
that
and
just
back
to
what
council
patterson
was
saying,
every
meeting
that
we
had.
There
was
at
least
two
state
representatives
in
it
from
the
southeast,
queensland
regional
planning
and
all
that
they
were
offices
there
and
I
went
to
all
eight
of
them.
So
there
was
state
offices
there
for
all
of
these
presentations
to
hear
actually
what
our
residents
and
that.
G
So
it's
not
the
state's
not
being
involved,
but
they
and
and
some
of
those-
and
I
can
just
say
in
their
favor
some
of
those
nights.
It
was
hammering
down
with
rain
and
they
still
came
down
and
they
took
questions
and
they
also
took
some
very
at
stages:
negative
feedback
from
the
residents.
But
they
took
it
all
on
board.
C
J
Through
you,
mr
chair,
I
do
recall
there
was
a
development
on
the
highway
at
palm
beach.
I
can't
think
of
the
street
on
the
corner
of
the
gold
coast
highway
mix
just
coming
out
now,
where
I
believe
they
did,
that
with
a
cafe
council
mcdonald,
which
was
a.
A
Which
was
a
grant
which
you
know
originally
a
medical
approval
then
went
to
cafe.
Restaurant.
A
E
That
location
forget
the
application
on
the
23rd
avenue
where
they
had
code
accessible
approval,
then
they
come
back
in
because
they
forgot
the
lift
well.
C
H
Through
the
chair,
the
public
realm
transport
and
infrastructure
maps
within
the
concept
plans
provide
insight
into
the
different
planned
investigations
and
works
that
are
being
coordinated
by
the
city
in
these
areas.
They
include
new
pedestrian
connections
and
crossings,
streetscape
or
placemaking
investigations,
stormwater
projects,
active
transport
connection,
improvements,
on-street
car
parking
studies,
cycle
path,
upgrades
and
some
park
upgrades
or
investigations.
H
H
Changes
to
building
heights
in
christine
ave
and
second
ave
are
similar
to
nobby
beach
miami
north,
with
the
most
notable
height
changes
proposed
along
the
gold
coast
highway
and
then
concentrated
in
areas
closest
to
the
newly
proposed
stations.
The
building
heights
stepped
down,
moving
westward
away
from
the
stations
and
away
from
the
gold
coast
highway
key
view
lines
from
important
vantage
points
were
considered
and
heights
restricted,
where
they
could
obstruct
notable
views,
particularly
to
the
distant
hinterland.
Ridgelines.
H
The
crg
groups
generally
also
supported
height
increases
along
key
east-west
corridors
and
particularly
along
christine
ave
and
mountain
view,
avenue
the
existing
high-rise
area
between
the
gold
coast
highway
and
the
esplanade
will
remain
as
existing.
However,
no
new
additional
high-rise
building
heights
were
nominated
across
the
entire
area,
with
the
maximum
newly
proposed
heights
between
30
and
33
meters
on
sites
close
to
stations.
B
Thanks,
mr
chairman,
I'm
just
interested
in
the
the
thinking
behind
the
the
gap
from
la
mana
to
hibiscus,
so
we've
got
33
and
then
we
dropped
to
15
and
then
we're
back
up
to
21..
B
I
would
have
thought
that
we
would
have
tried
to
concentrate
that
heightened
density
closer
to
the
station,
and
it
seems
as
though
there's
this
to
me
at
least
an
arbitrary
diminution
of
height.
Could
I
just
get
a
bit
of
feedback
on
and
why
we
ended
up
with
that.
D
Through
the
chair,
if
you
go
back
to
the
previous
map,
saying
that
actually
is
that
business
precinct
and
so
15
meters
is
what
we
use
for
those
sort
of
semi-industrial
areas.
So
it
was
just
retaining
that
existing
height
allowance
so,
like
mr.
B
Chairman,
I'm
you
know,
I'm
absolutely
I'm
going
to
precinct
tomorrow.
Can't
wait.
Can
I
go
have
some
craft
fears
which
I
think's
in
that
area
so
fully
support
that
it?
Just
you
know,
I
would
have
thought
that
we
could
have
ended
up
with
some
interesting
mixed-use
development
that
could
take
advantage
of
you
know
volumetric
different
styles
of
development
volumetrically.
B
I
appreciate
that
you
don't
want
to
go
put
people's
bedrooms
above
a
panel
beater
that
I
absolutely
get.
But
if
I
have
a
look
at
that
precinct
now
and
it's
got
a
craft
brewery
in
there-
and
I
think
about
south
bank
that
has
a
james
squire,
for
example-
and
you've
got
craft
brewery
and
residential
above
there.
I
just
thought
we
could
have
solicited
some
interesting
development
outcomes
there.
If
we
had
height
but
I'll
leave
that
alone.
A
A
D
So
through
the
chair
we
do
have
mixed
use
around
the
station,
so
it's
a
transition
and
it's
really
about
not
introducing
actual
residential
uses
into
that
light.
Industrial
area
so
there's
opportunities
for
mixed
use
along
the
highway
and
then
further
down
christine
avenue.
B
B
B
You
know
a
national
office
above
their
current
brewery,
so
they
may
redevelop
and
try
and
put
in
two
or
three
or
four
stories
which
could
also
accommodate
you
know
other
participants
in
the
industry
in
that
commercial
space.
But
if
we're
putting
a
cap
there
on
that
height,
where
we're
putting
a
cap
on
the
capacity
of
that
precinct
to
actually
support
jobs
and
growth,
because
if
there's
no
uplift
in
that
existing
purple
area,
I
don't
see
that
we've
got
an
uplift
in
the
job
carrying
capacity
of
that
area.
If
that
makes
sense
through.
H
The
chair,
so
in
relation
to
that,
it's
quite
rare
for
low
impact
industrial
areas
to
even
build
up
to
the
existing
15
metre
height
limits
that
are
there.
So
a
four-story
kind
of
product
within
a
low
impact
industry
area
is
quite
rare.
Also,
we
there's
a
fine
balance
within
these
areas
where
we
don't
want
to
be
replaced
by
all
start-up
businesses,
because
local
communities
really
appreciate
that
low
impact
industry
offering
there
as
well
so
as
more
opportunity
could
be
in
height
afforded
to
these
areas.
H
We
could
see
some
of
those
uses
kind
of
pushed
out
of
that
area,
and
you
use
this
kind
of
coming
that
the
community
actually
was
really
appreciates
within
this
area
and
just
in
relation
to
your
comment
about
the
kind
of
stepping
down
of
heights,
so
we
tried
to
make
sure
that
there
weren't
sharp
kind
of
changes
within
heights
that
there
was
a
stepping
of
height
as
well,
so
within
the
mixed
use
and
neighborhood
center
zones.
There,
the
fronted
stations
we
allocated
that
height
of
33
meters,
but
we
didn't
want
a
stark
transition
to
15.
H
so
yeah
those
those
transitional
arrangements
were
incorporated
here
down
to
that
15
meter
high
limit,
so.
B
Mr
chairman,
if
I
could,
through
you
just
tease
out
again
my
concerns
about
this
21
meter,
mapped
height,
so,
okay,
I
get
it
main
road,
21
meters
kind
of
makes
sense,
but
the
that
peach
colored
section
corridor
whatever
you
want
to
call.
It
only
has
the
depth
of
one
residential
block
right
so
21
meters.
How
many
stories
could
we
likely
achieve
that
from
a
residential
point
of
view,
yeah
one
house
slot
deep
and
then
I
think
to
myself:
okay,
the
67
story,
development
sitting
on
a
lot.
A
A
D
Richard
do
you
want
us
to
address
that
might
help
so
through
the
chair
we
did.
We
did
have
discussions
with
the
group
about
this
particular
issue,
and
it
was
also
an
issue
that
we
discussed
with
the
group
along
the
gold
coast
highway
with
the
lots
that
face
to
the
west.
So
the
key
thing
here
was:
you
could
do
amalgamation
still,
so
it's
not
precluding
amalgamation.
There
are
a
lot
of
single
dwellings
through
that
area,
and
it
also
it
was
a
very
clear.
D
I
guess,
response
from
the
group
that
they
didn't
want
us
to
extend
that
back
into
those
cul-de-sacs,
but
you
can
still
have
a
building
site
where
they
have
acquired
land,
both
along
christian
avenue
and
then
along
those
back
streets
and
that
they
tear
the
building
down.
So
we
do
expect
that
we
might
see
some
mixed
outcomes
through
there
sure.
B
B
B
I
I
wouldn't
expect
that
we
would
see
a
driveway
vxo
on
that
bridge,
knowing
the
traffic
and
the
geometry
there
we're
most
likely
to
see
a
vxo
or
access
to
any
development
on
those
lots
off
of
penguin
parade
and
then,
while
we
might
have
to
step
transition
from
a
building
height
point
of
view,
I
think
what
we're
doing
is
we're
pushing
the
the
traffic
issues
that
are
induced
by
these
high
developments
into
the
back
streets.
I
think
we've
seen
this
a
little
bit
in
palm
beach
anyway.
B
K
Thanks
chairman,
I
wondered
what
the
current
height
designations
are
on
the
eastern
side
of
the
highway
there.
Please,
because
this
is
all
consistently
55
meters.
What
is
it
currently.
K
A
K
H
Yeah,
so
the
crg
groups
did
generally
support
the
increase
height
along
the
key,
east-west
corridors,
and
particularly
christine
avenue
mountain
view.
Avenue
and
the
areas
of
heights
of
15
meters
and
below
will
provide
opportunities
for
more
housing
choice
options
across
the
area
in
the
form
in
compatible
forms
in
a
low
medium
category.
H
Similar
to
the
knobby
beach
miami
north
area,
the
public,
realm
transport
and
infrastructure
map
includes
new
pedestrian
connections
and
crossings.
A
number
of
streetscape
and
placemaking
investigations,
stormwater
projects,
active
transport
connections,
on-street
car
parking
studies,
particularly
around
the
existing
industrial
areas,
cycle
path,
upgrades
and
also
park
upgrades
and
master
plan
investigations.
H
So,
moving
forward
from
here,
we
propose
that
we
move
into
the
tailored
engagement
activity
on
the
draft
concept
plans
in
april
and
following
that
engagement,
we
update
and
amend
the
concept
plans
based
on
feedback
and
return.
The
final
versions
to
peck
in
june
or
july
this
year.
If
endorsed
cert,
will
then
move
to
prepare
the
city
plan
package
with
an
aim
to
bring
an
amendment
package
back
to
committee
in
2023.
A
Yep,
so
did
you
have
the
those
up
down
maps
yeah?
They.
D
A
I
Thank
you
through
your
chair,
I'm
curious
about
the
process
and
with
learning
recently
that
we've
got,
it
looks
like
another
pause
on
our
city
plan
amendments
from
the
state
government.
So
what
does
it
look
like?
What's
the
impact
on
this
proceeding,
if
they're
just
holding
off
and
not
proceeding
with
our
city
plan
amendments.
A
I
Just
further
on
them,
excuse
me,
so
is
it
just
that
we
can't
submit
it
until
we've
gone
through
the
last
amendment,
or
does
it
impact
on
what
we
would
present
based
on
what
they
would
send
back
to
us,
because
we
don't
know
what
they're
going
to
tell
us
about
city
plan
amendments?
My
guess
is
once
you've,
you
know
that
then
that
may
alter
I'm
just
wondering
whether
this
tailored
like
the
final
piece
of
this
puzzle.
Wouldn't
you
want
to
do
that
after
you
know
what
it's
telling
us
about
our
city
plan.
J
J
At
this
stage
we
have
not
set
policy,
we
haven't
gone
through
the
actual
changes
that
would
be
required
in
the
city
plan,
so
the
concerns
that
were
raised
earlier
about,
for
example,
the
height
at
that
point
in
time,
we've
got
a
number
of
triggers
and
ways
that
we
can
add
things
into
the
city
plan
to
do
that.
So,
whatever
we
choose
to
do
at
that
time,
plenty
of
options
and
we'll
still
look
at
it.
J
J
Our
best
chance
is
making
sure
that
that
strategic
framework
and
everything
is
as
tight
and
the
intent
from
us
is
as
clear
as
possible
through
that,
and
I
think
council
patterson
going
back
to
the
state
government,
given
the
nature
of
how
all
this
timing
will
work
out,
we're
hoping
that
that
will
be
done
at
that
point.
J
But
we
have
been
engaging
with
the
state
offices
as
councillor
young
said
earlier
from
the
start
of
this
process,
and
there
might
be
things
that
as
we
get
to
drafting
and
that
policy
framework,
there
might
be
things
that
we
change.
Based
on
that
advice
and
of
course
all
of
you
will
be
involved
in
that
at
that
point
in
time
and
you're
right,
we
can't
we
can't
submit
anything
until
two
and
three
is
out
so
there's
other
packages
that
we've
got
at
the
moment.
J
J
I
C
Chairman,
I
just
wanted
for
the
benefit
of
councillor
patterson
and
others
to
say
that,
in
consultation
with
yourself
and
the
director,
I
have
put
through
a
call
to
the
deputy
premier's
office
to
get
information
about
when
we
might
expect
to
receive
amendment
packets
packages.
Two
and
three,
and
I
only
did
that
yesterday
and
I
would
expect
he
was
traveling
and
made
it
clear
that
we're
anxious
to
get
those
packages
moving.
A
Okay,
council
young,
the
officers
prepared
a
sort
of
heat
map
if
you
like,
on
what
was
up
and
down.
So
maybe
if
you
just
bring
that
up.
H
Yeah
so
looking
on
the
screen,
the
text
in
red
is
the
existing
height
in
green,
as
the
proposed
height
and
in
blue
is
the
change
between
those
in
meters.
The
existing
height
does
not
incorporate
the
50
uplift.
B
Council
of
also
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
just
a
question
on
process
through
you
to
the
director.
J
J
Through
you,
mr
chair
council,
versta,
we
are
as
far
as
I
know,
I'm
not
sure.
If
there's
anything,
that's
happened
that
we're
not
aware
of
excuse
me.
A
lot
of
the
information
through
the
crgs
has
been
uploaded
to
our
internet
page.
So
I
know
there
was
an
article
in
the
bulletin
last
weekend
or
the
weekend
before
that
we
did
review
and
provided
some
comments
on
it
to
make
sure
that
it
didn't
have
anything
confidential
in
there.
J
So,
as
far
as
I
know,
unless
there's
been
something
else,
what
has
been
publicly
distributed
is
what's
publicly
available
at
the
moment
right.
J
Through
you,
mr
chair,
mr
chair,
council
of
all
state,
came
through
our
media
area
and
they
gave
us
a
heads
up
and
zane
and
his
team
provided
some
comments
back
and
what
we
really
wanted
to
do
too
at
that
point,
was
impressed
that
at
this
stage
it
was
just
draft
it
was
through
the
community.
It
was
with
community
feedback.
It
hadn't
gone
through
council
and
council
had
not
made
a
decision
at
that
point.
G
Yeah,
thank
you
chair
for
that.
Having
gone
through
this
whole
process
attending
four
for
each
area,
I
can
actually
say
that
I
am
extremely
impressed
and
grateful
to
the
officers
and
the
people
that
they
provided
to
support
the
residents
in
going
through
the
whole
process.
So
just
for
information's
sake
too.
They
as
people
who
are
on
the
crgs
came
in.
They
didn't
sit
with
the
same
people
all
the
time,
so
they
were,
they
were
moved
to
different
tables.
G
So
there
was
a
very,
very
wide
spread
use
of
sharing
of
information
sharing
of
people's
opinions.
When
we
look
at
the
people
that
attended
the
groups,
there
was
education
people,
there
was
planning
people,
there
was
business
owners,
it
was
just
families
who
have
just
moved
into
the
area,
families
that
have
been
long
term
in
the
area.
So
we
had
a
really
good
range
of
age.
G
We
had
a
really
good
range
of
of
businesses
and
views
on
what
the
gold
coast
should
be,
what
they
wanted
to
retain,
what
they
wanted
to
see
going
forward
and
people
were
very
respectful
of
each
other's
opinions,
but
afterwards
they
chose
not
to
get
up
from
a
table
and
leave
the
room.
They
chose
to
stay
and
I'm
sure
some
of
the
officers
at
times
thought
I
wish
they'd
go
home
because
they
chose
to
stay
towards
the
end
of
the
meetings
and
to
continue
their
conversations
onwards.
G
So,
in
support
of
this
process,
I
think
it's
it's
definitely
providing
feedback
back
from
our
residents
that
they
and
they
feel
like
they're
part
of
a
process
and
that
when
they
have
been
out
when
the
information
has
been
in
the
newspaper
and
that
they
have
again
taken
other
members
of
the
community
on
board
through
neighborhood
watch
meetings
and
and
other
functions
that
I've
been
at
where
they've
shared
the
information.
So
I
think
when
we
get
feedback,
quite
often
with
our
consultation,
is
that
people
weren't
even
aware
it
was
happening.
G
But
this
time
round,
there's
great
conversations
within
the
community
they're.
Not
all
conversations
that
are
positive
about
everything
but
they're
all
conversations
that
are
positive
about
the
process
and
there's
somebody
who
lives
next
door
to
me-
or
I
know
so
and
so
who's
on
that
group.
And
they
said
it's
a
really.
G
It's
been
a
really
frank
and
open
conversation
and
they're,
the
ones
who
have
led
us
to
the
maps
that
we've
got
there
today
and
we
know
this
is
the
first
stage
in
a
very
early
stage,
but
it,
I
think,
there's
probably
75
of
the
people
that
were
on
that
original
survey
or
76
percent
chose
to
be
incorporated
in
the
feedback
going
forward.
G
So
I
think
we've
got
a
great
community
buy-in
on
these
processes
and
I
think
the
things
that
came
out
what
that
stood
out
for
me
were
that
they
actually
know
that
the
city's
growing
they
know
that
the
city
city
is
changing
and
that,
as
a
council,
we
have
to
be
very
diligent
in
where
we
see
this
population
being
homed
within
our
city
and
also
the
things
that
they
they're
quite
happy
to
accept
change,
and
it's
not
speaking
for
everyone,
but
quite
happy
to
accept
change.
G
In
these
areas,
and-
and-
and
I
know
the
room
is
sick
of
me-
talking
about
busy
park
but
through
this
whole
process,
the
absolute
process,
the
one
of
the
greatest
things
to
come
out
of
that
for
me
as
a
counselor,
was
that
the
community
expects
the
facilities
to
be
fit
for
use
and
fit
for
purpose.
They're
happy
to
support
these.
G
These
changes
to
our
city
plan,
but
they
need
to
ensure
that
the
facilities
within
our
local
area
are
fit
for
use
and
it's
not
just
the
park,
but
it's
the
it's
the
green
space
and
and
it
needs
to
balance
out
what
we're
delivering
infrastructure
wise.
They
want
the
linkages
into
busy
park.
They
want
the
linkages
into
to
our
beachfront
parks,
to
be
green,
to
be
shaded
to
to
facilitate
good
pedestrian
and
good
cycling
connectivity
within
the
community.
G
The
bigger
percentage
of
that
feedback
is
that
the
supporting
infrastructure
has
to
be
the
supporting
recreational
uses,
sporting
uses
and
open
space
to
be
to
be
at
able
to
service
the
additional
people
within
our
community
and
and
again,
I
say,
60
hectares
in
in
busy
park
and
a
big
increase
within
people
within
that
catchment.
We
need
to
ensure
that
what
we're
providing
for
these
residents
is
not
only
an
increase
in
height
and
an
ability
to
move
into
these
areas
and
be
part
of
a
vibrant
gold
coast.
G
Life
is
also
so
to
ensure
that
our
open
space,
our
parks
and
our
recreational
areas
to
a
point
that
supports
the
community
and
the
uplift
of
residential
and
a
good
variety
of
residential
offering
within
the
community.
So
I
congratulate
all
the
officers
because
I
have
we
hear
things
backwards
and
forwards
all
the
time
or
they
don't
listen
or
that
these
officers
listened.
They
took
on
board
they.
No
not
these
guys.
They.
G
Did
they
listened?
They
took
it
on
board
and
they
were
so
patient
with
people
and
the
people
that
were
on
those
groups
came
out
on
the
very
last
night
and
said:
not
only
did
they
someone's
going
to
ding
a
bell,
I'm
sure.
Not
only
did
they
find
the
feedback
great,
but
they
actually
said
it
was
an
education
that
they
had
a
far
better
understanding
of
what
the
officers
have
to
go
through
and
when
the
state
spoke
as
well
saying
you
know,
the
the
last
update
has
taken
this
long.
G
This
could
be
a
12
to
18
month
process.
They
are
able
to
now
go
out
as
councillor
gates
was
saying,
go
out
to
their
community
and
say
well
talk
about
50
uplift.
It
was
and
they
unders
had
a
far
better
understanding
of
the
50
uplift
being
the
absolute
cap
still
didn't
want
to
take
it
on
board
from
us,
they'd
like
to
lose
the
50,
but
the
feedback
was
that
they
realized
we're
going
to
have
height
and
they
just
want
it
to
be
well
supported.
G
K
Petty
thanks
chairman
certainly
want
to
endorse
those
words
and
just
comment
that
I'm
really
grateful
that
our
city's
got
the
capability
to
go
through
these
kind
of
exercises.
Very
legitimately,
we've
got
the
resources
and
the
skills
to
support
this
and
we've
been
blessed
to
have
the
involvement
of
the
community,
and
I
want
to
thank
those
reference
group
members
for
their
participation.
K
In
particular,
I'm
not
that
familiar
with
the
investigation
area
process
which
has
been
undertaken
in
advance
in
other
places
like
oxford,
but
I'm
expecting
that
there'll
be
a
a
commensurate
sort
of
effort
from
city
planning
and
the
engagement
of
the
offices
with
the
community.
Ultimately,
in
those
processes,
that's
what
I
believe
will
happen
and
directors
giving
the
affirmative
so
happy
to
support
this
thanks.
Jim.
F
J
Through
you,
mr
chair,
can
I
just
say
dana
zainal
get
embarrassed
here,
but
just
really
want
to
thank
zane
zane's,
recently
resigned
from
us
and
he's
got
a
new
adventure
very
exciting
for
him
and
his
family
ahead.
But
just
really
want
to
thank
zane
and
all
the
work
he's
done
with
his
team.
L
Can
you
hear
me
yep
great
this
item's
about
the
southport
priority
development
area
development
scheme,
amendment
for
the
gold
coast,
cbd,
special
entertainment
precinct.
L
L
But
last
time
we
came
to
you,
we
were
just
about
to
embark
on
public
consultation,
so
we've
now
undertaken
that
public
consultation
that
was
22
business
days
between
the
23rd
of
november
and
the
22nd
of
december,
and
we
now
have
a
draft
submission
report
and
yeah.
The
next
steps
involve
the
minister
of
economic
development,
queensland
approving
the
development
scheme
and
us
completing
a
minor
amendment
to
city
plan,
to
then
give
effect
to
that
special
entertainment
precinct
and
introducing
our
local
law
to
to
ensure
that
that
that's
implemented
effectively.
L
So
our
public
consultation,
there
was
a
suite
of
methods
employed
similar
to
many
of
our
other
engagement
activities.
L
We
had
quite
a
lot
of
traffic
on
gc,
have
your
say,
which
was
really
pleasing
to
see
lots
of
visits
and
also
downloads
of
the
resources
we
had
over
300
submissions,
which
we
also
felt
was
quite
high.
Other
pda
development
skim
amendments
that
we've
seen
across
the
state
have
sort
of
in
the
order
of
about
20
submissions.
So
so
we
thought
that
was
quite
quite
good.
L
Engagement
from
our
from
our
gold
coast
residents,
99
of
those
submitters,
were
from
the
gold
coast
and
over
half
of
them
were
residing
in
southport,
basically
and
near
that
special
entertainment
precinct.
L
Almost
a
third
were
either
regular
visitors
or
work
in
southport,
and
we
had
two
submissions
from
industry
groups,
the
southport
chamber
of
commerce
and
the
music
advisory
group
and
across
the
board.
The
proposed
amendment
received
strong
support,
86
sort
of
outright
support
within
a
further
nine
percent
support
in
part
for
the
sep
related
amendments
to
the
development
scheme
over
80
support
and
then
14
support
in
part
for
the
introduction
of
the
micro
breweries
into
as
a
land
use
in
southport
within
the
precinct.
L
One
and
almost
80
sport
and
15
support
in
part
for
some
other
general
amendments
to
align
with
citywide
planning
policy
within
the
development
scheme.
B
Through
you
to
the
director,
I'm
not
sure,
I'm
not
sure
who
would
know
this,
but
was
the
inclusion
of
microbreweries
to
support
a
particular
development
application,
or
how
did
we?
How
did
we
come
to
form
the
view
that
this
was
an
important
and
missing
land
use
to
support
live
music.
L
Through
the
chair,
I
could,
I
can
offer
a
couple
of
insights
into
that
one.
Is
that
there's
been
an
obvious
sort
of
gross
growth
in
microbreweries
across
the
city
and
they've
been
known
as
venues
to
that
do:
support
kind
of
arts
and
culture
and
music
as
a
whole,
but
also
there's
a
statewide
strategy
around
the
support,
for,
I
think
it's
craft,
breweries
or
micro
breweries,
recognizing
the
economic
contribution
that
they
make
to
to
the
state
and
the
city.
I
Thank
you
through
you
to
council
foster.
I
did
specifically
request
that
that
and
it
I
think
it
was
a
bit
of
an
anomaly
of
the
pda
that
micro
breweries
got
excluded
when
it
wasn't
actually
the
intent
of
the
pda.
They
got
caught
up
with
other
businesses
like
panel
beaters,
so
we
wanted
just
to
be
able
to
embrace
that
and
bring
it
back
in.
L
No
sorry,
okay,
so
there
were
four
probably
areas
of
concern
that
were
raised
in
submissions
that
I
did
want
to
give
you
a
quick
overview
of
one
was
the
potential
for
noise
impacts
from
the
sep
and
that
attracted
there
were
19
submitters.
L
That
touched
on
that
there
were
12
that
touched
on
existing
kind
of
homelessness
and
social
issues
in
southport
and
seven
touched
on
the
adequacy
of
car
parking
in
the
area
to
support
sep
and
micro,
breweries
and
10
questions,
the
appropriateness
of
southport
for
the
cbd,
location
and
we've
addressed
all
of
these
areas
of
concern.
L
We
also,
you
know,
I
guess
revisited
the
idea
that
the
cbd
is
a
vibrant
in
is
intended
to
be
a
vibrant,
24
7
precinct.
So
we
are
looking
to
introduce
these
types
of
uses
in
that
area.
L
We
also
in
response
to
the
social
issues
we,
I
guess,
covered
off
on
some
of
the
roles
and
responsibilities
that
the
city
has,
but
also
state
agencies
have
in
addressing
those
issues
and
and
spoke
to
the
fact
that
the
set
actually
may
result
in
some
positive
impacts
in
its
ability
to
activate
some
of
the
less
activated
areas
of
the
cbd
and
improving
some
of
those
outcomes.
L
And
we
also
spoke
to
the
fact
that
southport
has
great
access
to
the
light
rail
and
public
transport,
and
it's
not
intended
that
we're
going
to
be
providing
a
lot
of
car
parking
within
our
cbd
and
reinforced.
I
guess
council's
decision
to
to
introduce
a
set
in
sea
in
southport
and
southport
being
that
appropriate
location.
B
I
mean
the
reason
why
we're
establishing
the
scp
to
begin
with
is
to
overcome
the
issue
of
noise
complaints
prejudicing
liquor
licenses
right.
So
no,
no
surprise
that
there
may
be
a
little
bit
of
noise,
but
but
I
wondered
whether,
as
there's
further
sensitive
development
around
the
sep,
where
the
council
would
be
in
a
position
to
condition
more
intensive
acoustic
treatments
to
mitigate
nuisance,
complaints
down
the
track.
So
I
mean
you
can
double
glaze
windows
you
can
put
in
all
sorts
of
acoustic
paneling
on
developments.
L
Through
the
chair,
absolutely
so
through
as
part
of
this
amendment,
part
of
it
is
establishing
the
requirements
for
amplified
music
venues,
but
the
other
really
important
part
of
it
is
making
sure
that
any
future
residential
development
within
this
area
does
actually
have
an
appropriate
standard
of
acoustic
mitigation.
L
Through
the
chair,
we
made
some
minor
administrative
and
editorial
changes
to
the
document
following
consultation
relating
to
definitions
and
things,
and
you
can
find
these
on
pages
555
to
556
of
the
agenda
report.
L
We
don't
believe
that
the
amendments
will
significantly
change
the
development
scheme
and
we've
had
discussions
with
edq
to
that
effect.
But
now
I
guess
we're
looking
to
submit
that
to
edq
to
forward
on
to
the
minister
for
his
consideration.
L
So
the
next
steps
that
we've
outlined
here
on
the
slide
is
that
we
we
send
the
documents
off
to
edq
they
review
and
push
put
that
forward
to
the
minister
and
then,
hopefully,
within
a
couple
of
months,
the
minister
will
adopt
the
amendment
and
allow
us
to
publish
that
and
give
effect
to
that.
And
then
all
that
follows
is:
is
a
further
city
plan
minor,
an
administrative
amendment
to
identify
that
special
entertainment
precinct
spatially
so
that
we
can
then
give
effect
to
the
local
law.
A
A
No
all
right,
council
patterson
I'd
love
to
invite
you
to
move
that
except
you're,
not
on
the
committee.
A
I
You
this
this
is
a
exciting
next
step
for
for
southport
cbd
and
also
for
for
music
and
entertainment,
live
entertainment
on
the
gold
coast.
It's
really
important
that
our
venue
providers
don't
feel
concerned
about
providing
entertainment
and
being
concerned
that
they're
going
to
lose
their
liquor
licence
that
this
enables
a
place
for
people
to
do
that
and
and
to
really
take
advantage
of
everything
that
cbd
has
got
to
offer
being
on
the
light
rail
having
that
density
and
just
turning
it
again
into
a
highly
walkable
space.
I
A
A
A
A
A
A
Counselor
wilson,
did
you
want
a
presentation,
or
did
you
just
have
some
I'm
happy
to
move
it?
If
I've
got
a.
B
B
Anyway,
long
long
story
short,
I
just
want
to
thank
city
officers.
I
want
to
thank
city
officers
for
dealing
in
good
faith
with
my
office
and
addressing
some
of
my
concerns
around
the
landscaping
treatment,
which
is
terribly
important
because,
while
this
building
has
a
labor
drive
address,
it's
very
unlikely
that
pedestrians
and
the
public
will
be
appreciating
the
building
from
the
labor
drive
frontage.
B
In
the
fullness
of
time.
It
will
be
the
riverwalk
sidewalk,
which
will
be
the
most
prominent
viewpoint
of
this
development,
and
it
was
important
to
me
that
the
landscaping
be
preserved
and
very
sympathetic
to
what
should
be
a
tree-lined,
very
pleasant.
Walk.
I
mean,
let's
not
forget,
an
adjacent
road
is
called
arbor
avenue
for
a
reason.
B
So
again,
thanks
to
city
offices,
and
thank
you
to
the
director
for
allowing
this
to
be
progressed
through
committee,
because
what
it
does
do
is
assert
council's
position
that
there
is
no
such
thing
as
a
40-day
deemed
approval.
So
long
as
council
deals
with
development
applications
in
an
expeditious
view,
and
that's
why
we're
dealing
with
it
today
to
assert
that
position,
and
I
would
say
that
any
would-be
applicants
in
the
robina
area
should
take
note
of
what
we're
doing
today.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
council
vorster.
Anyone
else
want
to
speak
for
or
council
votes
you're
happy
with
that
to
be
closed.
Take
the
vote
all
in
favor,
a
division,
counselor
hamill
councillor
ron
jones
council
guides
council
patent
council
of
all
state
councillor
pauline
young
councillor,
o'neill
councillor
caldwell,
against
carried
unanimous.
A
All
right,
that's
six
point:
seven
we're
in
the
seven
yeah;
okay,
so
cancels
we'll
move
to
item
seven
point
one
which
is
confidential,
just
trying
to
see
where
the.
A
A
B
A
Yeah:
okay,
well
councils:
let's
just
move
into
closed
move
by
councillor
owen
jones
seconded
by
cancer
pauline
young,
all
in
favor.
Sorry,
we
should
start
at
raising
just
before
we
do
that.
The
reason
as
set
out
was
the
legal
advice
so
we'll
go
with
that
bracket
e
basis
for
confidentiality.
A
A
A
A
A
All
right
we'll
take
the
vote
all
in
favor
against
carrod.
A
D
A
D
A
D
B
Councillor
caldwell,
I
would
like
to
move
a
general
business
item
which
I've
provided
to
our
minute
secretary
in
her
inbox
and
have
to
read
it
while
that's
potentially
being
copied
on
screen,
and
it
reads
that
the
chief
executive
officer,
ceo,
makes
representations
to
the
office
of
fair
trading
and
any
other
relevant
regulators
seeking
amendments
to
property
advertising
rules
which
would
require
real
estate
advertisements
to
alert
consumers
when
projects
have
not
yet
secured
council
development
approval
and
that
the
ceo
or
their
delegate
notify
councillors
of
the
outcome
of
these
representations.
D
Thank
you,
council
young.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
Know
look
mr
chairman
now
that
have
a
second
I'll
just
speak
very
briefly.
To
this.
I'm
sure
we'd
all
be
familiar
with
residents,
raising
concerns
about
developments
that
have
been
brought
to
market
which
have
not
yet
been
subject
to
council
approval
and
not
yet
gone
through
the
very
rigorous
process
that
we
take.
As
a
committee
and
council
to
finessing
development
to
meet
community
expectations,
it
can
be
very
jarring
for
a
community
to
see
the
first
iteration
of
a
plan
expecting
that
to
be
the
final
outcome,
because
things
are
being
sold
off
the
plan.
B
I
I
would
hope
and
expect
that
the
office
of
fair
trading
who
is
charged
with
looking
after
consumer
issues
might
see
their
way
to
tweaking
their
real
estate
advertising
rules
to
require
project
proponents
to
list
in
a
prominent
place
that
a
project
has
not
yet
received
council
approval
at
the
time
that
those
projects
are
advertised.
It's
not
attempting
to
dissuade
sales,
but
I
think
it's
an
important
step.
B
We
need
to
take
to
try
and
assuage
community
concern
that,
what's
presented
on
a
brochure
meets
council's
expectations
when,
in
fact,
that
may
not
be
the
case
and
without
naming
the
project,
because
I
can't
it's
only
a
vague
memory
to
me.
But
some
months
ago
a
story
was
carried
in
the
gold
coast
bulletin
about
a
project
that
had
sold
out
or
had
received
40
million
dollars
worth
of
pre-sales.
I
forget,
but
that
was
ultimately,
I
think,
refused
under
delegation.
B
A
D
D
B
So,
mr
chairman,
I
don't
mean
to
fetter
in
any
way
the
manner
in
which
these
transactions
are
carried
out.
What
I
would
merely
like
to
do
is
that
when
a
project
is
marketed
that
that
marketing
material
include
mention
that
the
project
may
not
yet
have
received
council
approval,
I
think
the
simplest
way
of
achieving
what
the
best
outcome
at
no
cost
wait.
A
second.
B
K
Generally,
I'm
supportive,
but
it's
a
bit
of
can
a
can
of
worms
here.
So,
for
example,
I've
seen
advertisements
saying
you
can
get
a
subdivision
on
this
property
and
it's
clearly
incorrect
under
the
state
planning
laws.
You
can't
so
this
motion
wouldn't
capture
that
it
would
so
you
could
still
be
required
to
say
this
approval
has
not
been
granted
for
a
townhouse
or
something,
but
on
the
other
hand
you
could
say
I
mean.
A
This
is
to
address
a
specific
issue:
yeah
the
issue
about
false
and
misleading
conduct
or
negligent
misrepresentation
or
whatever
it
might
be,
which
can
apply
to
second
dwelling
type
approvals
or
airbnb
approvals.
All
of
those
things
that
agents
tend
to
have
get
very
excited
about
and
put
on
the
notice
board
and
say
here's
your
second
income
from
your
airbnb
and
the
thing
doesn't
have
approval.
A
Those
things
I
think
are
separate
and
probably
covered
by
the
the
legislation,
albeit
it
needs
someone
to
hold
them
to
account
on
it.
But
this
is
aimed
at
particularly
closing
a
a
loophole
where
the
property
doesn't
that
they're
holding
it
out
to
be
subject
to
registration,
but
actually
it's
even
a
step
further
than
that,
because
it
hasn't
got
the
council
approval.
Yet
so
I
don't
see.
K
Any
difference
hey,
I
don't
frankly,
I
didn't
see
any
difference
chairman
if
you've
put
if
you're
advertising
a
property
as
having
a
bnb
that
can
be
rented
out,
that's
not
been
approved,
that's
the
same
as
whatever
the
original
intent
was
here.
So
I
just
think
that
yeah
it's
a
bit
of
a
can
of
worms
and
if
you-
and
this
may
be
too
specific-
and
it's.
K
Enough
and
therefore,
if
it's
so
broad
that
it
really
that
gets
captured
by
all
of
those
other
fair
trading
rules
that
exist
at
the
moment,.
B
So
yeah,
the
issue
that
I'm
trying
to
overcome
is
when
an
advertisement
or
property
prospectus
is
silent.
Yeah
right,
so
I
think
in
the
examples
that
council
peter
young
raised,
there's
the
suggestion
that
there
is
a
council
process
around
an
approval,
whether
or
not
they're
misrepresenting
the
likelihood
of
an
approval
being
secured.
B
We
suffer
reputational
risk
because
communities
believe
that
these
things
are
a
foregone
conclusion
and
I
think
it's
important
that
the
we
encourage
proponents
to
be
more
responsible
in
their
representations
to
manage
the
expectations
of
the
community
and
prospective
buyers
so
that
we
can,
you
know,
go
through
an
assessment
process.
That's
not
clouded
by
dozens
and
dozens
and
dozens
of
complaints
of
concerned
residents
that
are
probably
inflammatory
because
they've
been
caught
off
guard
and
we
haven't
had
the
opportunity
of
bringing
them
along
the
assessment
journey.
E
Mr
chair,
I've
had
two
in
recent
times
last
one
that
we
approved
last
council
meeting
down
near
the
palm
beach
park.
Lands
before
council
had
even
received
it.
It
was
advertised
and
they
were
selling
off
the
plan.
The
other
one
that
I
recall
is
second
avenue
at
burley,
where
council
the
officers
had
gone
for
approval
council
refused
it.
I
had
people
who
were
purchasing
those
units
complaining
that
the
officers
had
told
them
or
had
told
the
developer
that
they
were
approving
it.
So
why
did
council
refuse
it?
E
So
you
know-
and
I
think.
E
Yes,
so
maybe
you
know
there's
something
probably
further
back.
If
our
I
don't
know
what
discussions
our
offices
have
with
the
applicants
but
they're,
certainly
using
that
as
a
tool
to
say,
we've
got
council
approval
and.
J
So
three,
mr
chair
council
macdonald.
We
would
always
be
communicating
with
applicants
what
the
officer's
recommendation
is
and
applicants
consultants
know
that
that's
not
the
final
decision
until
it
goes
through
council,
so
I
mean
we.
We
couldn't
stop
that
the
information's
publicly
available.
The
reports
are
on
the
agenda
48
hours
before
that,
but
as
council
voices
absolutely
right,
there's
numerous
occasions
that
I
can
think
of
where
there's
site
offices
that
go
up
and
a
few
recently
that
we
have
refused,
where
they've
had
actual
hard
infrastructure
for
the
site
officers
and
they
were
refused.
A
A
People
will
sell
their
home
to
downsize
to
an
off
the
plan
unit
type
project.
That
unit
project
ultimately
doesn't
proceed
without
an
approval
and
they're
left
having
cashed
in
their
principal
place
of
residence.
Thinking,
they've
been
able
to
jump
across
and
the
market
moves
in
the
interim
and
it
becomes
really
problematic
for
people
who
then
having
good
faith,
tried
to
move
from
one
place
to
another
yeah.
E
Thanks
chair-
and
it
is
it's
pretty
broad
when
you
talk
about
advertising,
because
it's
not
only
in
on
real
estate
advertising,
I
mean
a
development
in
rainbow
bay,
for
instance,
were
all
sold
out
before
they
got
approved.
They
even
had
signage
sign.
Writing
signage
fly
over.
So
what
do
you
do
there?
I
mean
it's,
it's!
You
are
opening
up
a
can
of
worms
because
it's
it's
pretty
widespread
and
not
only
on
just
real
estate
advertisements.
K
B
K
B
But,
to
be
honest,
I
threw
projects
in
there
because
I
couldn't
think
of
a
better
word.
I
mean
what
I
was
most
concerned
about
are
big
unit
developments
that
are
overly
ambitious.
That
may
be
materially
different
in
scale
or
design
through
an
assessment
process.
I
understand
I
haven't
had
much
regard
to
smaller
scale
things,
but
if
you
think
we
get
better
coverage
with
promoted
uses
on.
A
So
I
might
just
get
just
to
flesh
out
the
wording
there.
I
think
alicia
might
just
suggest
that
we
bring
it
back
to
something.
That's
actually
a
bit
more
development
focus
terminology
related.
A
A
A
All
right
anyone
want
to
speak
to
that
further,
we'll
take
the
vote
all
in
favor
against
carried
yeah.
Everyone
was
four
council
guards
who
were
four.
That
was
not.
That
was
a
delay.