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A
Okay,
are
we
good
so
I'm
gonna
do
a
talk
on
vision
and
direction
I
do
wish.
It
was
a.
A
Is
a
mid-journey
generation
for
the
background?
The
Prompt
is
actually
vision
and
Direction,
so
just
throw
it
all
fun
to
kick
this
off.
But
if
you
want
to
go
to
the
contents,
Chris.
A
Oh
cool
I
guess
it's
a
little
bright
today,
but
I.
Think
it's
like
kind
of
collecting
thoughts
from
this
trip
and
really
pointing
to
a
direction
is
what
the
goal
of
phase
two
is
and
something
that
we
maybe
haven't.
X.
We
talked
about
yet
so
I'm
going
to
talk
a
bit
about
Vision
versus
Direction
versus
priorities,
how
those
kind
of
interact
like
why.
A
Or
kind
of
more
broadly,
why
do
we
need
this
whole
pipeline?
How
do
these
pieces
come
together
exactly
and
then,
where
are
we
going
and
I
have
I?
Have
a
very
opinionated
talk
on
what
that
direction
is
and
I?
Don't
anticipate
this
to
be
the
answer?
I,
don't
think
any
anyone
individually
has
the
answer.
A
I
think
we'll
have
lots
of
time
to
chat
about
this
after
this
talk
and
throughout
the
last
couple
days,
but
the
directions
I
think
that
we
should
be
moving
in
we'll
be
giving
a
little
talk
on
that
and
a
little
blurb
for
each
Squad,
I,
guess
I,
say
ascertaining
our
underlying
goals
and
pointing
to
a
direction
and
then
just
working
on
this
instructions
too.
A
A
Narrative
what
we've
been
working
on
with
lateral
these
last
couple
days,
it's
very
productive.
It's
like
we
want
to
do
x4y
for
Z
reason,
and
it's
like
something
to
point
to
as
an
overarching.
Okay.
This
is
our
like
top
level
goal.
I.
A
Star
has
kind
of
been
a
running
joke
for
a
variety
of
reasons
now,
but
that's
really
what
it
is,
and
it's
kind
of
like
the
fundamental
building
block
to
build
off
of
and,
of
course
direction
is
the
specifics
and
path
you
know
considering
our
vision.
Where
do
we
want
to
go,
and
what
do
we
want
to
do
very
specific
actions
to
kind
of
Point
towards
and
then
priority?
Is
this
action
and
execution
kind
of
what
Chris
was
letting
the
framework
for
yesterday?
It's
like
how
do
we
move
ourselves
down
this
path?
A
What
do
we
need
to
do
to
accomplish
this
in
the
most
efficient
way?
So
we
go
to
the
next
slide
and
I
prepared
the
most
Bare,
Bones
and
corporate
chart
you've
ever
seen,
But,
starting
with
vision,
I
think
Vision
steer.
Is
the
direction
dictates
the
priorities
have
your
direction.
Do
you
understand
what
you
need
to
prioritize
to
move
along
that
path,
and
that
creates
success
by
having.
A
Yeah
next
slide,
so
why
do
we
know
all
this
I?
Don't
want
to
mimic
lateral
too
much,
but
I
think
it
kind
of
serves
as
like
a
crown
formerly
guiding
our
decision
making
is
really
the
most
important
part.
You
know.
Why
are
we
working
on
this
and
where
does
it
fit
alignment
of
investors
in
DxD
contributors
through
rep,
Talent
attraction?
You
know
top
talents
may
not
be
interested
in
a
perceivably
directionless
organization
or
major
turnoff
Dave.
You
talked
about
this
yesterday,
where
it's
like
okay.
A
Well,
maybe
we
don't
have
some
like
major
long-term
players
and
maybe
that's
because
we
don't
really
have
a
defined
Vision
like
what
are
we
doing
exactly
and
then
morale
booster.
If
we
understand
where
we're
going
and
we
can
actually
visualize
it,
we
can
see
milestones
and
actually
reach
them
as
a
group,
instead
of
as
individual
teams
I
think
it's
going.
A
More
happier
at
the
work
that
we
do
so
next
slide
sounds
like
a
broad
overview,
and
this
is
my
very
opinionated
Direction
of
restructuring
overview
I.
Suppose
it's
worth
noting
that
this
all
assumes
that
everyone
is
in
a
grants
with
Chris's
kind
of
points
from
yesterday,
not
that
those
are
going
to
be
the
solution,
but
it
does
kind
of
support
that
in
a
way.
So,
if
you
want
to
go
to
the
next
slide,
let's
get
some
water,
quick.
A
So
I
don't
think
I
can
choose
the
vision
specifically,
but
for
the
the
ease
of
this
conversation,
I
want
to
kind
of
use
what
we
kind
of
worked
on
together
with
lateral
yesterday
to
kind
of
set
this
up.
A
Fundamental
building
block
and
choosing
this
direction
and
I
think
it's
actually
a
very
good
place,
build
and
evolve.
Freedom
for
communities,
I
had
lots
of
drafts
that
I
was
running
through
make
decentralization
accessible.
Etc
they
can
create
again
was
a
fun
one,
but
we've
been
joking
about
the
last
little
bit
and
I.
Think
the
light
of
specifics
need
to
be
ironed
out,
but
I
think
it's
like
a
strong,
concise
statement.
We
want
to
build
a
builder
culture.
We
want
to
create
freedom
for
both
ourselves
as
a
now
and
outwardly
in
other
communities.
A
I
think
is
the
strongest
part
of
what
we
do
and,
of
course,
governance
has
always
been
at
the
core
of
the
extent.
So
I'm
just
very
specifically
tells
me
what
action
I'm
hoping
to.
A
Inherently
asked
the
questions:
how
can
we
better
offer
communities-
freedoms,
it's
strictly
Financial,
I,
don't
think
so
personally
and
most
important
this
Vision,
whatever
it
is
at
the
end
of
this
treat,
should
be
established
somewhere
on
chain
somewhere
definitive.
So
we
can
play
back
to
it
so
again
using
this
as
like
a.
A
For
this
direction,
I'm
about
to
go
into
if
you
want
to
go
to
the
next
slide
so
Direction-
and
this
is
the
big
opinion
and
we've
been
discussing
this
informally
I-
think
for
a
long
time-
maybe
even
a
little
over
a
year,
but
it's
a
decentralized
pipeline
for
communities.
You
know
this
is
informally
stated
not
established
anywhere,
but
creating
a
suite
of
products
that
are
fully
interconnected
rather
than
a
collection
of
products
that
can
operate
with
each
other,
which
can
it.
F
A
Insane
melt
product,
Reliance,
Community
Etc
we're
a
leader
in
decentralization
we're,
offering
accessible
governance.
How
can
we
utilize
it
and
stay
competitive
and,
just
as
an
aside
I,
don't
think
that
our
governance
itself
needs
to
be
a
profitable
instrument.
I
do
whoever
believe
that
you
offer
a
service,
that's
so
unique
and
accessible,
and
then
have
this
interconnection
with
products
that
actually
do
generate
revenue
is
how
we're
going
to
make
Revenue
going
into
the
future.
A
A
You've
made
through
Davi,
it's
deployed.
Sorry,
your
lunch
token
on
Aqua.
It
creates
a
treasury
on
Davi.
This
should
be
a
process
where
you're
not
aware
that
you're
utilizing
Encore
universe
and
Savvy.
It
should
be
one
streamlined
process
that
works.
Interconnectivity,
so
yeah
averages
shouldn't
be
intimate
with
each
product
specifically
but
efficiently.
Utilize
it
with
the
overworking
interface,
would
effectually
function
as
a
standalone
product
in
our
current
interpretation
or
a
flagship
service
Chris.
A
If
you
want
to
go
to
the
diagram,
which
is
almost
unreadable
on
the
screen
here,
we'll
see
if
we
can
get
it
focused,
otherwise,
I
need
to
bring
up
the
that's,
not
bad.
So
this
is
like
a
very
rough
draft,
of
course,
and
this
is
all
a
discussion,
but
this
is
kind
of
like
the
idea
of
how
this
makes
now
make
money
and
where
does
it
come
from
and
we
can
have
David
here
essentially
at
the
center
of
our
core
infrastructure
and
essentially
you'll
see
Davi
doesn't
have
any
green
lines.
A
This
is
fees,
you
know
the
general
fees,
current
fees
Etc.
This
exists
Standalone
and
provides
a
very
unique
service
with
a
moat,
in
the
sense
that
once
you've
created
a
Dao
on
Davi
you'll
do
so
by
launching
a
treasury
directly
through
a
token
race
on
Aqua
which
implicates
permanent
liquidity,
the
swapper
and
you
have
a
dow
and
you're
stuck
with
permanent
liquidity,
stuck,
of
course,
everything
is
permissionless.
You
can
operate
the
style
if
you
wanted
to
on
the
ethereum
blockchain
with
no
worry,
but
you've
created
this
moat,
where
we're
completely
open
source.
A
A
Can
make
Revenue
specifically
is
like
add-ons
like
what
can
we
add
to
obvious
Suite
as
like,
and
these
are
just
questions,
of
course,
but
it's
like
maybe
we
could
have
native
documentation
hosting
through
doc,
study
that
we
own,
so
you
can
directly
in
your
treasury
or
Dow
dashboard
kind
of
implicate
and
Link
dot,
dot,
docs
domain,
and
we
charge
like
a
very,
very
tiny
fee
for
this.
It's
like
ways
that
we
can
provide
accessibility,
make
things
very
easy
for
the
styles
to
kind
of
operate.
A
I
had
to
say
here
you
know,
native
mixing,
using
mix,
study
built-in
GIS
directly
without
connectability,
like
a
social
layer,
and
then
other
minor
could
have
services
that
are
kind
of
like
helping
Dallas
operate.
That
could
be
a
way
to
kind
of
extract
this
moment
of
fuse,
but
I,
don't
think
it's
the
core
piece
of
the
puzzle
right
and
it's
kind
of
like
this
pipeline.
A
A
Into
our
kind
of
framework-
and
you
know
of
course,
at
the
top
right-
some
carrot
Shilling
how
it's
like-
okay,
maybe
we
can
offer
conditional
sales
via
Aqua,
where
directly
in
your
raids,
that
you
do
in
your
treasury
dashboard.
It's
like.
Okay,
let's
focus
on
if
we
reach
this
certain
Milestone
we'll
distribute
whatever
and
carrot
is
aiming
to
be
super
optimized.
Maybe
that's
nfts,
maybe
it's
the
first
people,
so
there's
a
million
things.
A
Yeah
super
overlooking
idea
and
having
governance
at
the
core
of
this
kind
of
product
and
making
a
moat
around
it.
Where
you
come
into
this
ecosystem,
and
why
would
you
go
anywhere
else?
If
you
know
I
think
a
good
example
of
this
that
I'll
talk
in
a
minute
is
like
iPhones:
they
have
iMessage,
it's
not
that
iMessage
is
a
very
unique
product
in
the
sense
that
you're
just
texting
on
Wi-Fi,
but
it's
this
forcing
function
of
okay.
This
is
the
reason:
why
would
I
go
anywhere
else?
Hey.
You
should
try
this
one.
A
A
So
like
going
forward,
I
think
like
it's
like
the
direction.
If
we
have
this
idea
of
what,
if
we
want
to
create
and
this
decentralized
pipeline,
what
can
we
add
to
it
to
improve
the
experience
improve
like
this
Pipeline
and
then
like?
This
is
where
you
get
the
fees
right,
Davi
doesn't
have
to
be
a
profitable
product,
but
what
you
slot
into
it
can
make
that
be
inherently
profitable
by
you
know
putting
these
users
Downstream
of
that
I
said
you
want
to
go
to
the
next
slide.
A
I
want
to
highlight
individual
squads
and
kind
of
how
they
can
fit
into
the
puzzle,
so
swapper,
a
Hot
Topic
today,
is
that
so
I
say
contrary
to
some
toxic
vocal
opinions.
I
think
the
swapper
team
has
created
an
amazing
product
and
core
piece
of
infrastructure
related
to
our
product
strategy
and
both
our
current
state
and
our
previous
state
I
think
that
swapper
is
in
a
great
place.
It
has
some
things.
A
That's
working
on
and
finishing,
but
I
think
that
if
we
choose
to
prioritize
this
pipeline,
it's
something
that
we
want
to
focus
on.
I
think
there's
other
stages
that
are
currently
more
important,
but
of
course,
dexes
are
like
one
of
the
most
core
pieces
of
infrastructure
when
you
know
operating
with
Treasury.
A
A
If
it
were
to
at
least
focus
on
I,
say
integral
piece
of
the
puzzle
and
then
later-
and
this
is
what
you're
saying
is
that
with
your
kind
of
Second
Step,
maybe
we
can
focus
on
the
smart
contract,
future
proofing,
adb2
more
automated
system
like
velodrum
and,
of
course,
your
new
idea
with
the
the
third
option.
That's
like
splitting
this
liquidity
and
kind
of
like
front
end
I,
think
that
can
exist
in
this
architecture
as
well
or
it's
like
maybe
daos
can.
A
Maybe
you
can
connect
your
Dow
directly
to
the
swapper
dab
inside
of
davi's
governance
interface
fill
out
the
like,
as
you
would,
a
normal
user,
and
it
just
prepares
a
proposal
that
you
submit
to
your
dad
right,
and
this
is
kind
of
the
front
end
routes.
The
best
liquidity
of
you
know,
for
example,
so.
C
A
The
thought
for
swapper,
if
you
want
to
go
to
the
next
slide,.
A
Dxgov
ascertaining
the
governance:
2.0
is
priority.
Number
one
continue
forward
in
that
regard.
I
think
we're
on
that
path
already,
but
I
think
once
a
governance
stage
of
the
pipeline
is
operable.
We
have
to
be
prepared,
people
can
use
it
and
governance
2.0,
of
course,
I
think
pivoting
Focus
to
the
social
elements
of
daos
and
how
they
can
interconnect
and
create
Community,
not
only
within
the
Dow
but
within
the
Dows
in
the
ecosystem,
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me.
A
So
I
ask
some
questions:
how
can
thousand
natively
cooperate
directly
within
our
pipeline?
Ross,
of
course
mentioned
in
governance
as
a
service
and
how
the
staff
and
interconnect
directly
within
Davi
native
Bounty
boards,
maybe
the
Shopify
of
dows,
created
down.
You
have
the
option
to
sell
things
directly
through
the.
A
And
that's
somewhere,
we
can
take
views
as
well,
and
this
is
why
I
say
like
Apple's
iMessage
as
an
ease
of
use
concept
forcing
function
to
use
their
phones.
How
can
we
adopt
that
Mantra
while
retaining
open
source
and
decentralized
values?
So
again,
super
simple
conceptually,
but
it's
it's
such
a
strong
mode
enforcing
function,
and
how
do
we
capitalize
on
that
and
I?
Think
it's
like
is
the
bit.
This
is
the
best
way
to
do
open
source
code
in
such
a
way
where
it's
like
it's
open
source.
A
You
can
for
work
everything,
but
this
whole
ecosystem.
What
makes
everything
great
so
if
you
want
to
go
to
the
next
slide,
I
want
to
quickly
talk
Omen,
it's
almost
aside
from
this.
It's
available
and
accessible
now,
but
looks
dead
as
a
medium
or
even
longer
term.
Priority
I
think
that
we
should
relaunch
Omen,
focusing
on
existing
media,
which
would
be
low
effort.
A
I
actually
anticipate
that
this
process
would
be
one
or
two
developers
over
the
course
of
one
or
two
months,
because
we
have
prepared,
but
not
yet
utilized,
updated,
branding,
updated
landing,
page
new
UI,
ux,
high
quality,
explainer,
video
and
a
mascot,
all
of
which
is
completely
ready
and
just
effectively
needs
to
be
implemented.
So
I'll
get
more
info
on
this
on
Friday
I'm,
doing
a
talk,
DX,
voice,
operational
challenges
and
why
prioritization
is
important,
so
we'll
go
into
that
a
bit
more,
but
I
do
think.
A
A
And
maybe
you
know
longer
term,
if
it
becomes
a
piece
of
our
pipeline,
we
can
have
some
kind
of
interconnectivity.
That's
one
of
the
next
slide.
Mimi,
maybe
hopefully
not
controversial
I.
Think
meme
is
extremely
exciting.
The
first
dxf
product
the
contraction,
but
the
the
kind
of
split
priorities
are
a
bit
complicated,
I.
Think
personally,
the
nimi
team
should
fully
disengage
from
DXL
as
soon
as
possible
over
these
coming
months.
A
Of
course,
there's
the
proposal
passed
on
Shane
that
implicates
I
believe
it
was
six
months
three-ish
months
ago
of
like
this
kind
of
split
allocation.
It's
my
personal
opinion
that
the
team
everyone
here
has
a
very
obvious
passion
for
nimi.
You
guys
are
going
to
the
conferences
chilling.
It's
super
hard
you're
excited
about
the
work
that
you're
doing
you're.
Creating
these
templates
and
I
think
momentum
is
super
powerful.
You
have
significant
attention.
You
have
shout
outs
for
major
players
and
I
think
also,
of
course,
for
like
the
more
dx9
goal.
A
If
anemia
is
successful
at
the
extas,
inherently
successful,
of
course,
with
the
large
Grant
and
kind
of
helping
do
these
split
time
allocation
for
the
contributors
see
grant
us
with
time.
Applications
I
think
it's.
It's
vital
that
you
guys
capitalize
on
this
now
and
I.
A
Don't
want
this
to
slip
away
from
you
in
my
eyes
and
I
understand
that
there's
underlying
you
know,
responsibilities
that
you
guys
have
at
DXL,
but
I
think
it's
in
the
best
interest
of
both
DX
style
and
you
guys
as
individuals
to
disengage
from
the
core
DX
style
processes
and
work
full-time
into
the
new
spot
and
I
think
this
is
just
like
it's
the
time
right
and
I.
Think
I
don't
want
the
time
to
slip
away
in
the
same
way.
A
That
is
that,
for
example,
is
that
pissing
into
the
wind
and
oh
I
need
to
finish
this
I
need
to
finish
that
and
then
the
opportunities
so
I
want
you
guys
to
make
this
a
focus
of
course
opinion
you
guys
can
do
as
you
wish,
but
that
is
my
thought
for
naming
over
the
next
slide
and
then
minor
selection,
no
change,
I.
Think
carrot
is
setting
in
a
super
right
direction.
A
Despite
having
a
very
low
to
no
team
finalizing
the
product
getting
into
an
operable
stage
is
kind
of
priority
number
one,
and
then,
when
we
can
kind
of
ascertain
Financial
viability
and
making
it
work
in
our
pipeline,
you
know:
can
we
interconnect
it
directly
with
say
a
governance
or,
like
token
raises,
or
something
if
that
makes
sense,
maybe
we
need
to
expand
the
team
get
more
depths
on
board
Etc.
A
A
But
it's
like
I
ask
a
couple
questions:
how
do
we
let
contributor
X,
better
guide
proposal
processes-
and
this
is
kind
of
the
question
of
the
squad
level-
requires
proposals.
Maybe
a
contributor
X
can
kind
of
do
a
collection
process
and
review
along
with
the
squad
leads
something
that
gives
them
agency
over
the
actual.
You
know,
control
of
the
workers
and
making
sure
that
they're
all
comfortable.
How
can
contributes
facilitate
punishments,
or
maybe
even
rewards
for
interactions
that
are
cemented
on
chain
right
now.
A
There
is
no
system
for
that,
and
I
mean
not
too
calling
attention
to
any
specific
situation.
But
we've
seen
a
couple
where
contributor
X
is
very
vocal
about
a
problem
that
might
be
occurring
and
it's
impossible
to
take
action
and
then
later
you
know
just
a
thought,
maybe
some
sort
of
coordination
or
functionality
directly
with
the
councils.
If
that's
the
path,
we
decide
to
go,
maybe
there's
some
kind
of
push-pull
function
there
from
the
contributor
side
and
payments
and
then
the
second
and
I,
actually
maybe
I'm
the
most
important
thing.
A
Contributor,
camaraderie
I,
think
is
a
big
thing.
Happy
hours,
fun
events
selling
as
simple
as
like
gamer
trivia
nights,
I,
say:
virtual
piece
of
party
went,
but
it's
like
I
think
we
get
too
wrapped
up
in
what
we're
doing
a
lot,
and
we
argue
a
lot
and
it's
hard
to
remember
sometimes
that
we're
I
mean
like
as
soon
as
you
come
here.
The
vibe
is
totally
different
to
like
working
at
home
and
being
super
stressed
and
like
I,
don't
even
know.
A
If
there's
people
like
me
but
I
think
we're
all
pretty
close.
Here
is
my
interpretation.
Hopefully
you
guys
don't
hate
me,
but
yeah
I
want
to
see
more
of
that
and
I
want
to
talk
to
people
more,
not
just
doing
work
so
I
want
that
to
be
a
focus
for
junior
X
and
then
treasury
I
think
it's
like
continuing
to
push
towards
aren't
into
actions
rather
than
multi-sig.
Of
course,
great
work
with
Dave
on
the
castle
swap
stuff
lately
and
developing
a
more
robust.
A
Maybe
automated
treasury
reporting
strategy
in
the
sense
that
this
kind
of
nav
calculation
is
a
bit
unclear.
We
don't
know
exactly
what
nav
is.
Of
course
we
can
find
the
numbers,
but
it's
difficult
to
track
and
there's
a
lot
of
questions
about
it.
So
how
can
we
automate
that
I
think
is
an
important
facet
of
Treasury
going
forward,
and
this
is
the
more
personal
opinion
but
pursue
riskier
Capital
allocations,
especially
considering
we're
in
a
bear.
A
Market
I
think
this
DX
now
as
someone
working
in
the
weeds
of
this
technology
understand
what
will
be
successful
over
the
coming
years
and
if
it
does,
can
the
contributors
help
guide
it
towards
that
success?
Financially
so
I
mean
this
is
as
simple
as
the
department
engagement
that
Chris
and
Dave
I
think
you
two
have
been
working
on,
but
I
think
it's
as
complex
as
like
allocations
designated
to
opportunity
for
the
larger
piece
of
the
ethereum-based
treasury
non-runway
treasury.
A
The
community
can
kind
of
collectively
vote
on
maybe
put
governance
2.0
and
it's
not
just
the
collective
knowledge
of
contributors.
But,
of
course,
the
XT
holders
that
are
financially
aligned
as
well,
so
I
think
there's
opportunity
there.
If
you
want
to
next
slide
yeah
and
then
dxbisdict's
voice
which
I
put
under
operations
because
I
don't
think
it
makes
sense.
This
product,
but
I,
think
both
squads
face
very
similar
issues.
A
Between
squads
very
often
so,
for
example,
these
Squad
should
have
far
clear
expectation,
communication
between
product
teams
and
often
those
two
things
don't
align,
which
leaves
the
Troubles
Down
the
Road
dxb
is
the
explosion
have
a
much
tighter
integration
with
product
spots
all
throughout
their
life
cycle.
So
you
imagine
from
the
creation
of
the
product
at
the
very
beginning,
all
the
way
up
to
launch
go
to
market
strategy
Etc,
and
maybe
this
is
some
kind
of
coordination
with
the
councils
just
as
an
idea
to
throw
in
there
and
I.
A
Think
if,
like
that
problem
can't
be
solved,
then
why
should
DX,
Biz
or
DS
voice
exist,
and
instead
those
engagements
should
be
broad
responsibilities
to
squads
on
an
individual
level
in
a
sense
where
it's
like?
Okay,
we
need
marketing
support
for
swapper.
Maybe
that
person
just
becomes
a
part
of
the
soccer
team.
I.
Don't
think
this
is
the
best
path
forward
personally
as
the
lead
of
the
X
voice.
But
the
question
is:
if
we
can't
solve
those
communication
issues
and
we
continue
to
have
problems,
why
should
these
squads
exist
in
this
capacity?
A
So
that's
kind
of
a
broad
thought
on
Pixma,
stick's,
voice
and
I
say
us
specifically
at
The
X
voice,
we're
focusing
on
our
own
path
to
profitability
and
kind
of
squad.
Purpose.
I'll
talk
a
bit
more
about
that
on
Friday
yeah
more
on
Friday.
If
you
want
to
go
to
the
next
slide,
Chris.
A
Yeah
and
then
operations
minor
and
no
change-
keep
in
mind
that
this
is
considering
the
changes
that
Chris
said
so
really
there's
a
lot
of
change
operationally.
But
this
is
kind
of
just
from
this
perspective
of
like
the
actual
operation,
I
think
it's
like
further
focus
on
automation
of
all
functions,
and
this
includes
the
XC
token,
of
course,
a
large
undertaking,
but
not
a
new
idea.
A
So
that's
why
I
put
minor
and
then
continue
education
aiming
for
five
percent
of
all
contributors
on
governance-
and
this
is
still
because
we
kind
of
informally
have
a
small
allocation
to
governance,
making
sure
we
protect
the
treasury
making
sure
we
understand
what's
going
through,
but
apathy
exists
because
there's
an
extreme
amount
of
contributor
proposals
and
it's
impossible
to
understand.
What's
going
on
in
them.
How
do
I
vote
on
a
proposal
if
I
don't
even
know
the
person,
for
example?
A
So
there's
a
large
amount
of
appy
that
I
think
will
be
removed
from
this
process
of
having
squad-based
budgets.
So
the
squads
individually
get
to
determine
those
weights
and
instead
of
focusing
on
every
single
contributor
individually,
I
think
all
contributors
should
be
able
to
take
a
look
at
these
budgets
and
snapshots
of
the
report
cards
and
understand.
What's
going
on
and
whether
or
not
you
support
or
are
not
in
agreeance
with
the
certain
priorities.
D
A
Yeah,
what's
next
that's
kind
of
the
fun
bit?
Hopefully
I
didn't
ruffle
any
feathers,
but
phase
one
didn't
contain
many
specific
actions.
I
think
and
Dave
pointed
this
out
where
it's
like.
What
did
we
actually
accomplish?
It's
less
so
on-chain
actions
and
more
social
delegation,
the
capital
and
collect
ourselves
and
push
in
this
direction,
so
I
say
settings
social
precedence
for
off-chain
accidents
and
I.
Imagine
phase
two
is
actually
going
to
be
pretty
similar,
really.
E
It's
going
to
be
having
a
solution.
A
A
To
figure
our
out
and
phase
three
is
executing
upon
that
shift,
so
I
think
the
important
thing
is
reaching
consensus
on
the
direction
not
explicitly
stating
where
we
should
be
in
three
months,
and
this
will
occur
naturally
through
process
discussion.
Etc
slide.
A
Yeah
I'm
interested
in
further
discussion
to
approach
consensus
collection.
There's
been
some
comments,
especially
how
phase
one
was
mainly
a
form
thread
off
chain,
consensus,
collection,
via
polls,
and
then
that
can
flow
through
discussion.
Is
there
a
better
way
of
doing
this?
Maybe
not
but
I.
Think
the
forcing
function
of
creating
this
kind
of
yes
or
no
environment
was
necessary
to
prevent
inaction,
and
it
actually
was
successful
in
the
sense
that
not
everyone
agreed
on
every
point,
but
we
kind
of
discussed
and
collected
what
we
were.
A
Okay
with
and
overall
we're
happy
with
the
outcome
of
it
as
well,
so
forcing
functions,
deadlines
of
course
being
we
should
have
something
submitted
on
Chain
by
xdate,
that's
a
good,
forcing
function
and
then
blanketing
discuss
conditions.
The
aim
to
reach
an
environment
with
majority
of
support.
A
Yes,
no,
and
why
so
I
think
it's
like
collecting
all
of
these
main
points
and
actions,
namely
the
governance
stuff
that
Chris
is
primarily
focused
on
in
more
of
the
direction
such
strategy
of
stuff
that
I've
been
focusing
on
I
would
put
them
in
a
bubble
where
not
everyone
needs
to
say
yes
to
everything.
It
doesn't
need
to
be
perfect,
but
but
put
it
in
a
bubble
where
we're
happy
with
that
direction,
collectively
and
kind
of
start
to
execute
on
it
over
the
next.
A
You
know
three
four
months
so
October
31st
this
year
that
I
think
it's
like
two
weeks
from
now.
That's
the
arbitrary
deadline
pass
on
chain
for
the
phase
two
signal
proposal
submission.
So
that's
basically,
when
we're
going
to
be
next
week,
is
going
to
be
the
time
effectively
to
discuss
all
of
the
things
that
we've
been
discussing
here
and
how
we
collect
them
into
one
formal
kind
of
method
and
yeah.
G
A
A
consensus
and
I'll
just
say,
I'm
very
happy
with
this
process
and
I
think
that
before
this
process
it
was
very
toxic
environment,
it
was
almost
impossible
to
work
and
everyone's
been
super,
respectful
and
really
appreciative
of
the
environment.
We
have
here
yeah.
Thank
you.
A
This
is
another
The
Prompt
vision
and
Direction
It's,
like
a
going
through
the
mountains
yeah.
Let's,
let's
chat,
I
think
we
have
open
discussion
soon,
so
we
can
chat
about
this
until
there's,
nothing
and
then
I'll,
probably
split
off
and
continue
to
talk
it
in
a
more
focused
group.
I've
been
fantastic
questions,
comments,
thoughts,
of
course,
all
appreciated.
H
I
I
have
both
of
them.
I
propose
to
maybe
have
a
like
group
talk
now
of
this.
What
what
Keenan
just
presented?
Maybe
for
like
five
ten
minutes
and
after
that?
H
H
Would
like
propose
a
space
to
talk
about
it?
Okay,
so
we
will.
We
will
write
that
subject
title
and
a
piece
of
paper
and
you
will
say:
okay,
I
will
I
will
be
talking
about
this
on
I,
don't
know
on
the
beach
or
or
here
or
at
my
room
or
whatever.
Okay
so,
and
we
will
have
like
I
would
say,
I
would
say
we
would
have
like
40
minutes.
H
Okay
and
then,
and
then
you
can,
we
will
make
like
a
grid
of
talks
and
you
can
go
to
whatever
talk
you
want,
even
actually,
if
you're,
if
you're
in
one
talk-
and
you
feel
you-
you
are
not
comfortable
there,
because
you're
not
providing
anything
or
because
you're
not
taking
anything,
and
you
want
to
go
to
another
one.
You
just
go
to
the
island.
Okay,
so
that's
how
an
open
space
work.
H
An
open
space
is
a
social
technology,
a
guy
which
name
I,
don't
recall
now,
but
he
he
used
to
attend
to
conferences
and
he
realized
that
most
of
the
good
stuff
was
in
the
conversations
that
occurred
outside
the
box
like
in
the
coffee
room
or
somewhere.
So
so
this
is
like
a
way
to
formalize
informal
talks.
Okay,
so
you've
you've
been
having
those
a
lot,
I
guess
during
lunch
or
during
dinner
or
whatever,
but
nobody
knew
about
that
talk.
H
So
this
is
a
way
of
saying:
okay,
explicitly
I'm
going
to
talk
or
I
would
like
to
talk
about
this.
Who
are
wants
to
talk
about
this,
come
with
me
and
enjoy
okay
and
as
I
said,
if
after
why?
You
had
a
different
expectation
of
that
dog
or
something
is
not
working
out,
as
you
thought.
You
just
use
your
feet
and
go
to
another
and
nobody
gets
offended.
Okay,
it's
one
of
the
rules
of
the
spaces
that
you
can
move
freely
without
hurting
egos.
I
Everyone
looks
very
hot
and
tired,
maybe
I'm
new,
because
I'm
not
as
much
because
I'm
new
but
I,
think
we
can
talk
about
what
can
I
just
talked
about
yeah
for
five
hours,
and
there
are
some
things
we
should
all
talk
about
together
because
like
at
lunch,
we
had
a
really
valuable
conversation
and
I
was
wondering
why
that
didn't
come
up
when
during
the
I'd
only
listened
to
the
second
half
of
swapper
presentation.
But
none.
I
I
So
the
question
is:
how
much
more
awesome
do
you
need
to
make
it
and
how
much
do
we
have
to
maintain
it
but
like?
If
you
talk
about
the
suite
of
products,
you
can
you
need
some
place
to
put
liquidity
right,
and
so
that
could
be
balancer.
That
could
be
able
to
do
something
three.
That
could
be
either
something
too
but
like
the
whole
idea,
when
we
were
like
continuing
swapper
was
like
we're
also
supposed
to
have
aqua,
and
you
mentioned
Aqua
on
there
as
the
current
product.
We
have
it's.
F
I
I
I
So
that's
okay,
but
it
actually
is
prediction:
Ole,
Miss
how
it
is
prediction
markets
so
like
it
actually
ties
everything
together,
but
that's
where
the
value
comes
in,
like
human
just
says:
if
you
have
this
Suite
of
products
that
all
are
working
with
each
other,
and
so
just
like
people
were
asking
at
lunch
like
what
do
you?
What
do
I?
Think
of
swapper
I'm
like
yeah,
it's
a
good
asset.
We
have.
I
It
would
have
been
amazing
if
we
launched
it
like
one
week
after
we
had
the
idea,
but
we
can't
go
back
right
if,
if
we
launched
it
when,
like
a
week
after
we
said
we
were
gonna
make
it,
it
would
have
been
the
sushi
spot.
It
would
have
been
massive
like
if
we
had
this
idea
long
before
anyone
else,
but
it
just
took
a
really
long
time.
So
it's
okay,
it's
a
good
asset
to
have
like.
Should
we
give
up?
I
I
F
I
I
We
can
like
package
things
together,
especially
when
you
have
a
suite
of
products,
but
like
we
need
the
devs
still
like
obviously
need
to
be.
We
compared
it
to
like,
taking
like
a
nuclear
warhead
from
China
and
like
bring
it
to
the
US
and,
like
you
better
know
how
to
handle
it
and
not
it
up.
You
don't
have
to
build
it
from
scratch.
I
We
just
need
to
take
it
from
it's
all
open
source,
take
it
from
someone
else
and
put
it
into
where
we
need
it,
and
so,
like
I
like
right
now,
we
don't
have
enough
solidity
devs
that
we're
gonna
build
stuff
from
scratch,
which
is
fine,
but
also
at
lunch.
I'm,
just
referencing
a
lot
like
some
of
the
stuff
we've
talked
about
lunch.
It's
like
what
are
your
favorite
things
you
saw
at
Devcon
DX
down
goes
like
disappears
tomorrow,
you're
Dev
or
a
non-dev
like
which
project?
I
B
G
D
B
Mean
I've
been
in
on
the
DXL
Suite
of
products.
That's
like
the
reason
I
joined
right.
It's
like
we
can
create
decentralized
infrastructure
of
the
world
that
is
not
like
owned
and
operated
by
like
VCS
right
and
that's.
The
whole
idea
is
there's
going
to
be
like
not
a
ton
of
decentralized
exchanges,
lending
protocols.
All
of
these
different
things,
there's
not
going
to
be
like
a
bunch
of
different
designs
right,
so
you're
going
to
have
a
couple
different
ones.
B
The
question
is
instead
of
trying
to
make
swapper
successful
because
it
is,
it
does
something
that
no
one
else
has
done.
The
reason
is
successful
is
because
it
fits
in
the
other
product
suite
and
the
one
thing
I
would
add.
Sky
is
Dog
fooding
the
products
with
d
extow
right
so
DX
Dao
can
already,
or
should
be
in
the
middle
of
this
and
be
using
all
of
those
products
as
a
product
Suite
to
help
build
them
right.
B
So
we're
already
doing
carrot
we're
already
doing
it's
a
swapper
right
and
I
think
we
could
keep
doing
that
more,
and
that
is
you
know,
DX
style.
Does
it
and
then
we
have
groups
in
the
DX
Dow
ecosystem
that
we
do
it
where
they're
investing
in
different
products
are
using
that
but
yeah
I
mean
I,
guess
I
think
it's
always
come
down
to
the
Deep
style.
D
Products,
but
what's
up
with
carrot
with
Omen
we
Mesa
and
aqua,
because
we
are
just
taking
so
example,
but
now
we
are
checking
whatever
carrot.
I
mean
it's
carrot,
following
all
all
yeah
is
going
to
be
designed
to
three
I.
E
F
B
C
A
And
that
can
be
built
directly
to
your
treasury
dashboard.
It's
like
hey.
This
is
the
hair
token.
This
can
be
shown
when
you're
visiting
the
now
and
you
can
save
it
as
a
campaign
line.
They
created
the
campaign
directly
to
the
treasury
dashboard
as
a
Committee
Member
you're.
Looking
at
the
Dow
and
you're
saying
hi,
it
was
a
work
campaign.
I
should
say
some
inclusion
that
is
Feast
for
us.
That's
money.
D
B
D
A
A
We
are
a
community
that
started
in
this
way
and
we
know
what's
best
for
that
to
happen
like
we
know
the
best
path
and,
like
Chris
said,
we
should
be
directly
in
the
center
of
this
or
planning
on
moving
to
Dallas
contracts
with
us,
my
knowledge
and
like
interacting
with
this
Pipeline
and
we'll
know
from
just
like
what
we
need
to
operate
when
it's
like
okay,
this
could
be
needed,
like
maybe
we
can
make
fees
by
adding
this
feature,
that
kind
of
helps
the
user
or
the
Dow
kind
of
operate.
A
Those
right
I
think
that's
like
the
core
underlying
like
Direction,
because
we
don't
know
what
we're
doing
we're
kind
of
splitting
off
and
like
funding
individual
products.
It's
like
they're,
great
and
I
think
they
can
still
exist
aside
from
this,
but
the
core,
Mission
I,
think
is
supported
by
this
pipeline.
Yeah.
B
And
then
like
with
Deeks
out
at
the
center
again,
like
I,
think
there's
also
a
lot
of
really
cool
governance,
tooling.
That
needs
to
be
built
that
only
we
know
about
right,
yeah
and
that
will
be
used
by
other
people,
but
like
this
kind
of
going
back
conversation
yesterday,
where
I
think
building
for
DX
Dao
and
then
using
that
as
a
model
to
sell
to
kind
of
others
and
get
others
involved
in
that
I
think
is
really
important.
So.
I
I
I
D
A
I
think
it's
like
formalizing
this
in
this
phase
too,
it's
like.
If
this
is
the
direction
we
want
to
take,
how
do
we
refine
it
in
such
a
way
that
we're
happy
seeing
if
we
follow
this
path?
This
is
where
we
will
be
in
five
years.
We
don't
have
to
know
exactly
what
steps
to
get
there
but
like
we
know
what
direction
we're
going.
We
know
what
we
want
to
do
and
we
know
we
want
to
be
like
this
right.
B
A
And
on
the
note
of
like
we
need
to
hire
and
I,
don't
think
this
is
strange,
blown
up
in
the
first
proposal,
but
phase
three
kind
of
identified
as
originally
framed
I.
Suppose
it's
like
been
cut
with.
We
need
to
come
back.
That
was
not
the
purpose.
The
purpose
was
to
cut
back
where
it
immediately
makes
sense
evaluating.
A
A
Right,
we
know
the
direction
we
know
what
fits
into
the
puzzle.
If
we
didn't
know,
then
yeah
I
think
we
should
be
cutting
back
in
a
lot
of
places
and
we
don't
know
what
we're
doing
right
so,
probably
not
framed
perfectly,
and
that
text
is
a
bit
of
confusion
on
that.
But
that
was
the
purpose
of
phase
three.
If
we
need
more
Talent,
we
need
more
talent
for
that.
How.
G
I
Mix
if
we
have
that
entire
thing,
there's
an
ex
there's
like
some
hypothetical
expected
return
that
you
make
like
and
people
want
to
like
you
want
to
know
if
I
spend
a
dollar
today,
it's
going
to
lead
to.
If
we
build
this
you're
gonna
have
dollars
in
the
future,
like
maybe
it's
not
in
two
years,
maybe
it's
in
three
years,
four
years,
five
years,
ten
years
yeah
but
like
how
do
you
prove
that
this
creates
actually
leads
to
Value
yeah.
A
Difficult
to
calculate
because
it's
based
off
the
metric
of
success
of
like
the
core
Flagship
product,
but
yes,
it
should
be
if
you're
nice.
You
should
be
looking
into
this.
If
this
is
the
direction
we
want
to
take.
The
important
thing
is
that
we
kind
of
say
this
makes
sense.
We
can
actually
get
Revenue
off
of
it
unless
it's.
What
that
looks
like.
I
I
mean
some
arrows
doesn't
exceed
right
well,
individually,
yeah.
I
Tomorrow,
like
DX
Prime
and
I
can
take
all
the
pieces.
I
can
take
Uma
Sushi
swap,
let's
just
say
it's,
not
a
cow
yeah
I
can
take.
I
can
literally
create
that
with
other
projects
in
the
space
using
their
products
right
now
and.
A
I
think
the
hard
part,
and
maybe
what
is
lost.
The
translation,
like
the
original
Vision,
was
to
create
a
suite
of
products
into
Google,
where
you
have
the
Gmail,
my
open,
Gmail
links
to
my
Google,
Drive
or
whatever
I.
Imagine
this
as
like
a
different
Flagship
product
that
has
all
of
this
going
on
under
the
window.
So
when
you're
visiting.
A
C
C
Even
though
they
were
connected,
if
you
need
them-
and
we
think
the
ecosystem
of
having
all
these
tools
together
in
one
one
place
is
good
in
like
on
paper,
I
think
in
the
end,
Simplicity
and
protocol
one
right,
we
see
it's
like
Minnesota
doesn't
build
other
stuff.
They
they
like
their
first
mover
and
they
have
a
good
product
called
good
enough
protocol,
which
people
go
back
to
even
one
inch.
They
they
did
their
own
liquidity
and
they
failed
with
that
and
they
stuck
with
the
aggregating
right.
C
Yeah,
dodo
and
Sushi
I
saw
the
new
new
designs
and
their
new
designs
actually
Focus.
Only
on
the
swapbox
they've
removed
everything
else
from
from
the
menus
and
everything
else,
and
just
trying
to
keep
it
simple.
I
think
this
ecosystem
thinking
is
good.
If
you
have
the
users
I
think
Apple
can
do
it.
Microsoft
can
do
kind
of
because
they
have
the
users
yeah
I.
Don't
think
you
do
that
to
get
the
users
I
think.
That's
maybe
our
mistake
here.
I.
B
Think
the
big
difference
is
I,
don't
think
swapper's
user
is
an
individual
Trader,
I
think
swapper
and
all
of
these
product
Suites
are
Dows.
Those
are
the
users
that
we're
trying
to
acquire
and
building
into
that
and
for
that
I
do
think
you
need
like
a
product
Suite.
All
those
other
ones
are
like
really
hyper
focused
on
one
thing
and
delivering
it
to
an
end.
Individual,
like
user
and
I,
think
the
key
distinguishing
factor
with
the
extao.
B
He
said
we're
a
Dao
right
and
like
that's
the
thing
we
have
to
leverage
and
it's
building
all
of
these
that
are
tailored
to
Dows.
To
give
an
example,
I
think
for
for,
like
sushi
I
mean
for
swapper
or
unit,
swap
whatever
you
want
to
say
about
a
DEX.
None
of
those
dexes
can
work
with
dowels
right
literally
like
we're.
B
The
only
ones
I
think
think
that
have
infrastructure
that
allows
a
dow
to
provide
liquidity
on
a
uniswap,
V2
Ford
right
and
that's
just
like
the
first
first
thing,
I
think
going
forward
you're
going
to
need
tons
of
different
types
of
tools
to
manage
the
treasury
through
through
amms
that
are
specific
for
Dows
and
not
just
for
General
liquidity
provider
and
so
I.
Think
that's
just
the
key.
The
key
difference.
H
To
to
align
with
what
you're
saying,
if
the
purpose
stays
as
you
wait
as
you
wrote
it,
it's
like
creating
and
evolving
Solutions,
let's
say
for
communities
Freedom.
So
it's
not
for
individuals
as
a
community.
So.
B
Yeah
and
it's
more
of
like
that's
the
again,
the
competitive,
Advantage
right.
A
C
C
A
A
So
you
create
a
moat
by
saying
you
know
you
can
make
it
out
here.
You
can
do
it
anywhere.
You
can
operate
on.
You
know
through
ether,
scan
whatever
you
want
to
do,
but
this
framework
is
so
tightly
integrated
with
the
the
actual
projects
that
come
in
launch
with
us.
You
know,
DX
style
has
probably
a
piece
in
that
of
making
them
successful.
A
Maybe
this
grounds
beforehand,
in
the
same
way,
that
the
liquidity
is
locked
to
swapper
and
like
this
very
basic
example,
and
why
would
you
leave
an
ecosystem
as
a
community
if
you
have
locked
liquidity
of
significant
size
and
you
have
native
Dao
environment
that
is
easy
to
access
and
anyone
can
participate
right.
F
C
A
It
it
was
successful
and
I
think
there
is
a
key
difference
in
the
fact
that
it
wasn't
really
formalized
back
then
I
mean
we
knew
we
were
in
the
weeds
and
there
was
problems
but
like
if
we
were
like
okay.
Our
goal
is
to
get
this
part
of
the
pipeline
complete.
So
these
two
pieces
can
interact
in
one
product.
Do
you
think
it
would
have
been
maybe
different
if
we
knew
that
and
then
we
wouldn't
have
spent
time
on
other
things?
Perhaps.
C
B
I
B
I
mean
I
think
the
goal
would
be
to
build
things
around
Davi
and
again.
I
think
these
are
around
treasury
management
that
lock
you
into
whatever
it
doesn't
have
nakshi
vidavi.
It
could
be
a
couple
different
ones,
but,
like
you,
have
to
have
tools
that
allow
Dows
to
use
their
Treasury
and
like
having
that
like
tightly
integrated,
I.
B
To
stay
for
yeah
I
mean
I,
don't
think
that
will
be
in
the
future
because
that's
like
yeah
I
mean
I
think
this
is
a
bet
also
on
like
what's
gonna
happen
next
five
to
ten
years
right
and
like
I
mean
users
like
I,
know,
users
aren't
going
to
be
here
for
the
next
year
or
two
years.
Whoever
knows
the
next
bull
market,
but
it's
like
what
is
the
framework
that
will
be
successful
in
the
future,
assuming
like
yeah,
web3
kind
of
expands
and
I.
B
Think
on
the
Dow
front,
like
yeah
I,
think
that's
already
kind
of
changing.
You
see
a
lot
of
conversations
about
like
multi-sig
treasury
stuff
ens,
for
example,
is
like
a
like
a
a
real
Dao,
and
they
are
they
just
put
out
their
proposal
for
treasury
management
and
they're
explicitly
wanting
to
have
non-custodial
stuff
and
I.
Think
the
only
way
this
stuff
scales
like
if
you're
gonna
have
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
like
a
multi-sig
is
not
going
to
want
to
do
that
because
it
comes
with
all
sorts
of
like
legal
stuff,
but
I
agree.
G
F
C
G
I
F
I
A
A
G
A
B
A
Being
able
to
create
a
Dao
and
like
interact
with
them,
everything.
B
E
D
A
A
There,
like
we,
have
the
steps
in
place
to
like
execute
on
this
and
we've
known
some
other
path
like
this
forever,
never
been
established
anywhere,
and
we
never
really
have
talked
about
merging
it
to
like
the
super
depth.
But
like
close
right,
it's
not
like
a
foreign
concept
that
we're
gonna
need
to
expand
a
million
light
years
to
get
to
like
an
awkward
mistake.
I
think.
E
E
A
To
reiterate,
this
is,
as
Ross
has
said,
everything
that
we
know
of
and
or
have
launched
and
or
have
retired
now,
I,
don't
think
this
is
it
I
think
there's
a
lot
to
build
off
of
this,
but
this
is
like
what
we
can
do
right
now
to
go
forward.
Maybe
this
is
like
a
year.
Maybe
this
is
happier
it
depends
on,
of
course,
the.
E
E
Was
saying
earlier
is
that
we
were
all
individually
siled
at
each
little
Squad,
that's
trying
to
make
improve
their
own
success
instead
of
us
realizing
them.
Unless
we
make
some
of
the
collectively
make
swap
a
successful
yeah
or
the
X
voice
business.
You
know
unless
we
help
each
other
be
successful.
I
was
talking
about
like
that
structural
problems
that
help
us
well.
G
Have
different
squats,
working
together
and
so
on,
and
so
on,
like
this
is
all
possibility.
It's
so
nice
in
the
actual
I
talk
at
that
one
about
exactly
that,
but
this
is
not
starting
the
development
of
some
smart
contracts.
This
is
about
getting
the
product.
Market
fits.
This
is
about
okay,
getting
feedback.
G
C
C
Someone
came
to
us
came
to
us
with
a
mocha
exactly
this
and
we
said
no
I
said
yes,
but
we
said
this
is
a
bad
idea.
We
didn't
want
the
ecosystem,
he
didn't
want
the
product
to
be
connected.
We
wanted
different
products
with
no
connection
to
each
other.
That
was
the
answer
one
half
a
year
ago.
So
a
lot
of
changed,
I
guess
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
remember
that.
B
C
Needed
that
exact
token
two
bits
right
and
we
said
hey
what
what
if
we
connected
swapper
liquidity
to
do
it.
So
you
can
solve
any
token
to
to
bet
right.
You
don't
need
to
have
UCC
or
E
yeah,
which
was
the
problem,
because
people
said
Hey.
How
do
I
bet
do
I
need
that
yeah
and
so
we
said,
hey,
let's,
connect.
C
G
F
C
C
D
D
Week
I've
been
talking,
is
profitability
and
sustaining
ability
right
so
for
that,
I
feel
like
we're
coming
working
on
something
very
careful
that
is
purpose
ambition.
Okay,
we
want
to
make
this
country
right.
This
is
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
able
to
check
it.
This
is
what
what
we
want
to
look
good
luck
on.
We
want
to
make
money
with
the
money
we
have
and
to
be
sustainable,
so
there
is
where
I
think
please
money
thinking.
D
C
A
C
E
I
Order
in
order
to
become
profitable,
what
do
we
sacrifice?
Because
for
two
years
we
talked
to
this
at
large
too,
for
two
years
we
did
no
tracking.
We
did
no
tracking.
Now
it's
a
bear
market
and
we
get
some
pressure
that
we
need
to
make
make
actually
profit
right
as
soon
as
possible
and
now
we're
putting
track
in
you
like
what.
What
is
that,
like
literally,
we
didn't,
do
it
for
two
years
and
now,
just
because
some
people
are
like,
we
need
profit,
we're
putting
tracking
in
yeah.
B
E
G
The
case
you
can
meet
you
can
you
can
make
yeah
yeah.
A
C
From
name
is
perspective,
we
actually
said
to
each
other
like
it's
not
builted.
Actually,
I
mean
we
need
to
have
users
and
if
something
is
decentralized
and
gonna,
make
it
much
much
harder
for
us
and
we're
gonna
fight
and
pissed
Against,
the
Wind
We're,
not
gonna.
Do
it
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
get
the
users
we're
gonna,
get
the
money,
we're
gonna,
get
the
what
we
need
to
have
the
tools.
B
I'm
just
reading
some
chat
because
we
have
we
have
some
people
here
so
Connor,
there's
a
bunch
of
protocols,
there's
six
months
that
are
profitable.
So
he's
not
sure
if
it's
a
cop-out
to
say
that
we're
not
I'm
not
actually
sure
Connor,
I'd
love
to
know
which
ones
you're
talking
about
and
then
venki.
We
need
to
look
for
practical,
decentralization
and
then
Adam
says
about
80
of
nimi's.
Stack
is
centralized,
so
just
so.
D
F
And
now
I
know
that
really
for
a
long
time
it
hasn't
been
out
yet.
But
they're
like
it
was
a
centralized
version
for
of
that
product
right.
But
they
have
all
the
users
at
the
beginning,
they're
already
using
it
and
stuff,
and
then
they
gradually
like
building
out
like
the
more
decentralized
and
like
trustless
version
I,
think
that's
one
way
and
preparing
for
right.
A
C
B
Mean
I
think
I
was
listening
to
fill
dying
from
flashbots
and
so
I.
Don't
know
if,
like
kind
of
the
the
recent
controversy
or
flashbots
especially
post,
merge
right
is
that
everybody
is
running
Mev
boost
as
if
you're
inclined,
I,
think
it's
something
like
60
of
validators
and
then
they're,
also
using
the
flashbots
relay
to
actually
as
part
of
the
block
production
process,
and
that
is
a
Super
centralizing.
Force
right.
B
You
have
everyone
kind
of
using
this
one
piece
of
software
and
then
using
this
one
relayer,
and
the
talk
was
basically
all
about
how
flashbots
is
going
to
decentralize
right,
not
because
they're
doing
it
because
they,
like
you,
know
idealistic
it's
because
I
think
two
reasons
like
one:
the
ethereum
community
is
bullying
them
to
decentralize
right,
like
they're
up
there
and
they're
kind
of
had
some
success,
and
it's
like
well.
B
If
you
stand
for
these
things
like
you
need
to
decentralize
and
second
they're
doing
it
because
they're
it's
the
only
way
they
can
actually
keep
moving
forward
because
of
regulatory
risk
right
and
I.
Think
everything
that's
going
on
in
this
space
now
like
decentralization,
it's
just
like
a
necessity
for
the
end
regulatory
kind
of
area,
so
I
just
I,
don't
see
it
like.
It
was
just
like
a
choice.
B
We
can
do
things
that
are
centralized,
do
things
or
decentralized
it's
just
like
in
the
end,
it's
like
the
defense
that
you
kind
of
have
to
do
and
I
think
ethereum
is,
is
a
shining
example
I.
Think
of
decentralization
right
because,
like
they
keep
it's
a
self-correcting
thing,
it
gets
centralized
and
people
are
like.
No,
we
need,
to
kind
of
you
know,
become
decentralized.
B
I
mean
they
weren't
really
centralized
until
they
they
were.
They
got
centralized
because
of
their
success.
Right
is
kind
of
like
what
it
is
more
than
anything
like
their
yeah,
because
they
became
so
popular
and
widely
used.
That's
like
why
they're
like
because
it's
more
they're
a
threat,
their
centralization
threat
to
ethereum,
actually
I
should
say
not
so
much
that
they
themselves
are
decentralized.
A
Not
like
nothing
is
concrete,
and
how
do
we
put
a
direction
on
your
face,
too,
is
like
we
want
to
say
what
direction
we
want
to
go
in.
It
doesn't
need
to
be
perfect.
We
can
Workshop
it
execution
along
the
way.
Maybe.
A
Little
bit
like,
maybe
we
retrace
today
we're
discussing
the
people.
What
ax
is,
of
course,
being
a
great
example.
It's.
C
A
A
B
On
that
and
I
think
the
vision
document
like
if
we
have
that
that's
precisely
what
it
can
do
is
like
hey
like
what
does
everyone
think
of
this
and
get
that
like
feedback
in
itself
and
I?
Think
that
would
be
valuable.
Putting
you
know
a
whole
bunch
of
ideas
on
how
they
interlock
I
do
think
like
this
is
all
really
really
hard
stuff
like
in
general.
B
If
we
consider
this
a
startup
or
whatever,
like
lots
of
startups,
fail
independent
of
what
you're
working
on,
because
you're
betting
on
like
a
market
and
you're,
not
sure
if
that's
going
to
be
there,
so
that's
there
and
then
also
like
crypto
is
really
hard
and
so
like
we're
inherently
going
to
be
making
a
bet-
and
this
is
like
when
zet
was
talking
like
before
I'm
like
I'm,
not
sure,
if,
like
this
doubt,
if
it's
going
to
work
for
Dallas
like
I,
don't
know
but
like
we
have
to
find
some
entry
point
that
we
have
some
competitive
Advantage.
B
I
Gonna
grow
like
people
building
stuff
in
defense,
kind
of
a
waste
I
also
think
there's
going
to
be
tens
or
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dows
like
every,
and
we
can
do
this
very
soon.
If
we
have
it,
but
every
every
repo
on
GitHub
is
going
to
be
its
own
down
and
that's
just
there's
30
million
users
on
GitHub.
That's
I,
don't
know
how
many
repos
there
are,
but
there's
probably
30
000.
I
At
least
right
like
you
can
do
that
to
every
like
community
in
the
world
like
there's
gonna,
be
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dials
and
if
they
can
use
this
easily,
and
they
get
all
these
things.
This
isn't
for,
like
thousands
of
thousands
for
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars,
and
if
you
don't
believe
that
then,
like
we're,
also.
D
B
I
D
Now
we
are
signing
our
commits
cryptographically,
and
that
does
something
very
powerful
and
we
can
see
some
other
compact
like
radical
right
working
on
that.
So,
just
like
give
me
the
example
GitHub,
it
can
happen
on.
D
D
H
H
C
C
B
Groups,
yeah
I,
think
it's
okay,
well,
I,
don't
think
txt
should
be
trying
to
on
like,
like
I,
don't
think
DX
Dao
is
going
to
be
the
one
that
gets
like
this
early
casual,
like
Dao
person
like
I,
think
we're
kind
of
building
the
underlying
infrastructure
and
then
there'll
be
lots
of
like
web
to
people
that
kind
of
come
and
are
more
about,
like
the
Outreach
component.
The
same
way
like
it
only
geek
style
has
like
deals
with
like
Fiat
payments,
or
something
like
that.
So
I.
B
That
needs
it
out
like
we,
we
because
that's
just
like
a
heart,
that's
a
very
hard
business
and
I.
Think
it's
like
a
web
2
business
and
like
we
could
we
could.
We
could
bring
that
on
and
maybe
we
could
put
that
up
there,
but
I
think
it's
like
a
better
bet
to
just
build
the
underlying
infrastructure,
knowing
that
people
are
going
to
come
eventually.
C
B
No
I
I
think
we're
just
not
I.
Think
we're
like
honestly,
like
five
years
away
from
this
stuff
right
like
and
that's
I
took
a
long
time,
there's
so
much
to
be
built
and
I.
Think
it's
like
a
little
I,
don't
think
we
should
be
trying
to
focus
next
year
on,
like
like
acquiring
users
in
that
way,
because
I
think
this
is
like
a
much
longer
play
and
that's
why
I
think
we're
still
at
the
infrastructure
stage.
C
A
Easy
to
digest
governance
for
people
that
are
familiar
with
crypto,
okay,
so
that
can
be
nft
communities
that
can
be
anyone.
The
idea
is
that
you
can
come.
You
can
start
a
community
either
through
a
token
raise
or
you
have
a
community
you
could
plug
and
play
directly
into
our
contracts.
The
idea
is
to
make
the
pipeline
really
easy.
I
think
in
the
future
like
this
is
the
future
right.
This
is
why
we're
here,
I,
don't
think
many
of
us
to
be
here.
How
do
we
condone
to
that
kind
of
long
term?
A
B
And
I
mean
the
most
targeted
group
is
geek
style
itself
right,
that's
the
one
that
you
can
build
for
that
and
then
for
these
others.
So
I
think
you
can
have
targets
next
year,
but,
like
that's,
not
necessarily
I,
think
going
to
be
the
users
like
five
years
from
now.
That
is
the
reason
that
this
is
worth
doing
because
I
think
it
you
know,
Dows
are
going
to
expand
a
lot.
F
C
E
F
A
E
D
I
H
H
H
I
B
I
mean
one
of
the
themes
that
Devcon
I
heard
from
a
lot
of
people
was
like
an
honest
disappointment
about
where
ethereum
is
at
in
terms
of
real
world
adoption,
because
like
if
you
look
at
ethereum
now,
I
mean
it's
great,
like
I.
Think
we
all
like
understand
its
power
like
I'm,
not
really
sure
what
it's
doing
in
the
real
world
right
now
and
that's
ethereum,
like
the
blockchain
itself,
it's
still
a
ways
away,
so
I
yeah
I,
would
just
be
kind
of
skeptical
of
if
ethereum's
not
there.
B
B
A
Yeah
so
hopefully
this
provides
a
good.
We
have
a
framework,
I
think
probably
something
to
discuss
today.
Maybe
not
tomorrow,
hopefully
have
some
fun
tomorrow,
but
on
Friday.
A
And
then
I
think
it's
like
throughout
this
next
week.
Specifically,
it's
not
saying
this
is
where
we
want
to
be
specifically
but
like
this
is
kind
of
a
Direction
We
believe
We
want
to
go
in.
D
D
A
Next
couple
months,
it'll
be
a
year,
I
think
that's
the
most
important
part,
so
I
will
likely
be
facilitating
that
discussion
this
coming
week
and
I'm
having
some
kind
of
soft
consensus
mechanism.
Of
course,
maybe
that's
a
form
thread.
Maybe
that's
something
a
little
more
interesting
than
snapshot,
but
we'll
chat
with
that
next
week
for.
E
A
Please
discuss
I
really
like
the
discussion
here
and
we
can
talk
more
about
it
throughout
the
night,
particularly.
H
Original
plan
is
like
gone.
This
was
much
better,
so
so
it
was
like
intense
and
long
and
hot.
So,
let's
make
a
break.