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From YouTube: DXbiz Weekly Gathering [2022-11-07]
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00:03 Welcome
00:27 Restructuring and Refocus Discussion
12:20 Mimi Discussion
A
yeah,
essentially
on
the
agenda
today,
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
the
continuing
the
discussion
and
the
restructuring
and
focus
and
yeah.
Maybe
if
we
have
a
little
bit
of
time
to
talk
about
Mimi
and
sort
of
like
the
incubation
process
and
try
to
figure
out
like
how
do
we
progress
there,
so
yeah
Keenan?
Do
you
want
to
continue
or
Sky?
Do
you
want
to
say
anything
before
that.
B
Yeah
I'm
good
you
go
here:
I
have
a
slightly
different
perspective
in
the
sense
that
I
think
we're
actually
pretty
close.
So
maybe
this
is
more
of
an
Avenue
for
anyone
to
share
any
kind
of
final
guiding
thoughts.
The
original
plan,
of
course,
was
to
post
the
signal
proposal
for
last
Monday
that
was
pushed
back
to
Friday,
and
then
there
was
a
lot
of
governance,
attention
kind
of
being
grabbed,
so
we
decided
to
post
today
instead
so
I
imagine.
B
The
signal
proposal
should
be
posted
anytime
in
the
next
hour
or
two
of
course.
Any
final
kind
of
guiding
discussion
here
would
be
good
one
thing:
I
kind
of
wanted
to
highlight
and
venki
put
in
the
Forum
I'm,
not
sure
if
he's
here
Hey.
B
Thank
you,
sir,
but
one
thing
maybe
to
highlight
from
my
end
is
Genki
kind
of
looked
at
the
original
Forum
post
and
highlighted
a
couple
points
that
were
missing
from
the
phase
2
proposal,
and
this
is
another
thing
that
wasn't
maybe
well
communicated
from
my
end,
but
that
original
Forum
text.
That
was
a
kind
of
reprise
slightly
for
the
signal
proposal,
in
the
sense
that,
instead
of
me
coming
out
saying
what
the
solution
is,
because
I
don't
think
that
I
have
the
solution
to
everything.
B
Dxt
has
Unchained
all
of
its
all
its
problems
in
a
path
to
solving
them.
So
I
interpret
the
goals
that
I
kind
of
put
in
the
original
Forum
text
as
more
of
a
not
a
shopping
list,
but
kind
of
like
a
goals
in
a
personal
sense
of
what
I
would
like
to
see
changed.
But,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
signal
proposal,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
room
for
you
know,
figuring
out
exactly
where
we're
going
together
as
a
group
and
I.
Don't
think
I
have
all
the
answers.
B
In
fact,
I'm
sure
I
don't
have
many
of
the
answers.
Yeah
I
want
to
highlight
that,
but
broadly
I
think
we're
really
really
close.
In
fact,
we're
really
close
to
Signal
proposal
as
well
in
the
next
couple
of
hours.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
anyone
has
any
broad
comments,
thoughts
beyond
that
I
think
I'm,
actually,
in
a
pretty
happy
place,
nylon.
A
Yeah
yeah
I
think
I.
Think
overall,
this
process
is
great,
I'm
excited
to
see
yeah.
Essentially,
what
will
how
we're
going
to
continue
from
here-
and
you
know,
figure
out
sort
of
the
next
steps,
just
as
kind
of
maybe
some
broader
context
for
the
ecosystem.
A
A
It
was
kind
of
crazy
and
they
also
did
like
a
restructure
and
refocus
and
yeah
now
they're
like
way
less
people
way
more
focused,
my
like
just
focusing
on
like
very
specific
things,
instead
of
like
all
the
other
things
that
were
there
and
yeah
other
than
that
I
think
like
maker.
That
was
also
doing
something
similar
right
now
and
yeah.
It's
it's
beautiful
doing
these
things
now
yeah.
Maybe
that's
just
one
point
that
I
wanted
to
mention.
A
C
C
But
if
it's
just,
if
it's
a
summary
of
what
is
in
this
latest
thread,
I,
don't
know
Ken.
If
you
want
to
share
if
it
was
helpful,
if
you
were
going
to
share
a
draft
before
you
posted
it
or
if
you're
just
planning
to
post
it.
B
Yeah,
maybe
that
would
be
good
to
do.
I
didn't
want
it
to
kind
of
sift
through
like
a
Perfection
process
and
I
wanted
to
go
out
on
time
kind
of
deal,
but
maybe
like
a
day
or
you
know,
the
daytime
today
would
be
good
to
kind
of
have
a
review
process
I'm
already
gonna
sync
with
Chris
in
a
short
while
here.
C
What
do
you
call
it
a
litmus
test
or
something
for
what
it
would
be
so
like
right
now,
yeah
I'm,
I
I've
been
trying
to
imagine
what
it
would
be,
what
you
would
be
voting
on
and
what
you
would
bring
into
the
decision
of
voting
on
it
and
so
I.
If
you
shared
it
ahead
of
time
and
people,
and
it's
like
clear
and
oh
yeah,
that
that
totally
makes
sense,
then
it's
then
it
wouldn't
be.
B
A
So
I
think
like
something
that
kind
of
emerges
like
generally
I.
Think
from
this
person
from
like
the
politics
of
it,
though,
is
that
if
you
even
share
the
Google
Doc
right
before
you
post
it,
then
people
feel
like
they're
part
of
the
process
and
it's
it's
sort
of
like
a
psychological
thing.
Well,
this
is
not
public,
yet
I'm,
just
sharing
it
with
you
and
then
this
is
like
before
it
goes
to
the
Forum.
Maybe
this
is
what's
Skies,
meaning
I,
don't
know
sky,
but
yeah.
C
Generally,
like
yeah,
if
we
have
a
proposal
around
a
certain
thing,
you
would
you
can
kind
of
Imagine
like?
Should
we
should
we
sponsor
something
like
you,
you
know
what
the
vote's
gonna,
what
you're
gonna
be
voting
on
generally.
C
B
C
Cool
and
then
yeah
does
that,
would
it
would
it
also
I
guess
phase
three
is
the
next
important
phase?
Does
it
lay
out
steps
for
that?
Are
we
basically
based
those
steps
on
the
the
the
first
one
that
went
the
first
one
that
went
through.
B
I've
kind
of
interpreted
the
phases
as
a
look
back
kind
of
process
in
the
sense
that,
like
phase
one
set
the
stage
and
then
we
based
what
we
did
in
phase
two
off
of
what
pass
in
phase
one
and
I
imagine
that
phase
three
will
be
very
similar,
there's
some
stuff
that
we
can
do
right
away.
A
good
point,
I
think
he
made
was
there's
a
few
contributor
x,
related
things
that
could
be
tackled.
B
You
know
sooner
rather
than
later
and
I
think
like
once
we
have
a
direction
for
a
process,
it's
much
easier
to
kind
of
build
off
of
that
and
I
think
that's
probably
like
an
immediate
action,
but
regardless
of
which
way
that
goes,
I
think
it's
like
okay,
this
is
past.
This
is
what
the
Excel
has
said
and
kind
of
agree
with.
How
do
we
build
off
of
that?
To
you
know,
accomplish
the
remainder
of
the
goals
and
tackle
the
rest
of
the
problems.
That's
my
interpretation.
C
Cool
and
I
guess,
if
nylon's,
not
back
I,
get
Augusto
I
know
you
mentioned.
You
had
moved
some
times
of
meetings
now
that
now
that
yeah
the
whole
world's
changed
its
clocks.
You
know-
and
this
meeting
time
is
yeah
the
normal
or
the
the
consensus
local
meeting
time.
C
C
C
B
World
I
was
gonna,
say
Skyward,
probably
holding
hands
alone
here
on
the
West
Coast
to
really
early
meeting
times.
C
Yeah
I
mean
this
is
this
is
the,
but
it's
the
reason
why
we
change
times
because
yeah,
because
we
have
people
on
the
extremes
of
this-
put
this
greater
set
of
working
time,
which
is
why
this
is
the
reason
we
change
the
time
once
a
twice
a
year
in
order
to
accommodate
the
different
people
on
the
extremes.
Basically,.
A
C
Because
we
moved
the
time,
though
we
we
change
the
UTC
time
twice
a
year
anyway,
yeah
as
long.
The
whole
point
was
since
the
the
regular
time
is
moved
like
other
people,
other
calls
and
things
which
are
based
around
that
time
need
to
also
be
adjusted
and
if
there's
like
changes,
if
there's
different
squads
or
whatever
that
are
making
their
own
changes,
just
communicating
that
to
to
everyone
else,
so
that
they
can
also
be
aware
of
those
times.
C
You
know
we
have
calendar
advice
for
many
of
them,
but
if
not
yeah,
just
making
sure
times
are
lined
up.
A
Yeah
can
we
abolish
the
the
time
changes
and
just
in
general
and
every
one
day
yeah
what
else?
So,
if
that's
that
like,
we
can
move
on
and
talk
about,
nimi,
yeah,
zet
or
Dave,
do
you
guys
want
to
do
like
a
recap
for,
like
the
last
state
or
sort
of
the
incubation
proposal
or
yeah.
D
Yeah
I
mean
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
what
we
want
to
talk
about.
I.
Think
the
incubation
proposal
passed
like
late
August
I
guess
we
had
a
call
on
Friday
where
there
was
some
discussion
about
like
some
items
were
not
as
clear
as
some
people
would
have
liked
to
have
them.
D
I
know
there
is
some
discontent
among
the
dxt
holders
with
the
arrangement,
perhaps
also
among
contributors.
I,
don't
really
know,
but
mostly
around
DxD
holders
is
what
I've
heard
and
yeah
that's
all
I
know
I
mean
we
on
on
the
enemy
side.
I
think
everyone's
actually
been
going
very
well.
D
We
we
keep
growing,
we've
been
invited
to
a
lot
of
ens
events,
including
tomorrow
and
yes,
I'm
not
really
sure
what
to
address.
Because
I
don't
know.
I
I,
don't
really
have
an
exact
topic.
I
guess,
like
the
main
two
things
that
I've
been
hearing
is
that
well
one
is
dxt
hole
is
completely
criticizing
the
deal.
D
I
guess
the
other
one
is
that's
getting
paid
as
part
of
the
arrangement
to
work
for
nimi
and
yeah,
and
then
one
other
like
item
is
that
like
DX
Dao
owns
nimi.if
so
like
yeah,
that's
also
a
bit
of
a
weird
arrangement.
I
think
like
if
you
go
for
a
normal
incubation
or
investment
like
your
investor,
typically
doesn't
own
your
domain
and
stuff,
and
that
happened
because
you
know
John
stole
the
domain
from
us
and
sent
it
to
the
Dow
on
purpose.
D
So
that's
the
only
reason
Dao
has
it
and
I
think
those
are
really
like
the
topics
that
I've
been
hearing
about.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
want
me
to
address
any
specific
one
or
if
anyone
has
any
questions
happy
to
answer.
Of
course
you
know,
but
yeah
also
didn't
know
what
this
was
on
the
agenda
so
I'm
here
in
stand-up.
A
Mode
yeah
no
worries
I,
think
like
last
week
we
talked
about
I,
guess,
I
have
to
recall.
We
stayed
like
a
bit
longer
and
chatted
about
a
bunch
of
things
and
then
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
was
like
to
maybe
dedicate
a
little
bit
of
time.
For
so
like
the
name
of
this
question,
but
I
guess
you
guys
did
it
in
the?
C
Do
you
Dave,
do
you
think
yeah
figuring
out
what
the
best
path
forward
for
at
least
around
the
ens
is
makes
sense
in
having
that
sorted
out
and
not
being
an
issue
would
be
good
to
figure
out.
D
Yeah
absolutely
I
mean
I,
do
have
some
fears
that
you
know
it
will
be
downstaked
into
Oblivion.
But,
yes,
we
could
at
least
try
I,
don't
know
I
also
yeah
I.
Also,
don't
think
it's
like
anything
I
think
it's
a
weird
scenario
that
DXL
even
owns
it.
You
know
I,
don't
think
it's
a
weird
scenario
for
us
to
get
it
back.
You
know
I
know.
Some
people
have
also
different
opinions
on
this.
D
You
know,
but
I
think
the
only
reason
the
Dao
owns
it
is
because
it
was
stolen
for
us,
so
nimi
paid
a
contributor
for
a
contributor
purchase
nimi.eve.
He
was
refunded
by
all
the
other
hackathon
team
members
and
then
on
his
own
on
his
own
initiative,
because
he
had
a
disagreement
with
other
team
members
sent
it
to
the
dial.
So
the
only
reason
the
Dow
even
owns
it
is
because
it
was
stolen.
You
know
so
I
think
it
should
just
be
a
natural
natural
to
send
it
over
yeah.
D
But
I,
don't
know
if
yeah
I
don't
know
what
the
general
sentiment
is.
I
guess
you
know
like
we.
We
could
also
pass
a
new
proposal
to
kind
of
clarify
what
an
incubation
is
with
more
with
the
details
being
more
clear
in
the
text
we
also
haven't
touched
the
money.
So
if
we
want
to
return
that
and
like
start
a
new
negotiation
from
a
clean
slate
I
think
we're
really
open
to
everything
you
know
I
think
like.
If,
if
this
is
meant
to
move
forward,
I
think
everyone
should
be
happy
with
it.
D
You
know
and
like
if,
if
this
is
just
creating
more
chaos
and
drama,
you
know
I,
don't
you
know,
I
think
it's
not
a
healthy
way
to
move
forward,
but
yeah
I
think
like
starting
with
the
ens
would
be
a
great
way
and
I
don't
know.
If
some
people
might
look
at
this
like
we're
just
trying
to
get
our
ens,
but
you
know,
as
I
said,
I
think
we
should
have
had
it
in
the
first
place
since
forever,
but
yeah.
A
Yeah
I
don't
know,
I
can
say
that
I
don't
know,
like
my
opinion,
is
that
yeah
it's
I,
don't
know
it's
not
that
complex
and
you
know
there's
a
certain
degree
of
trust
that
we're
trusting
each
other
and
it's
fun
like
that
was
trusting
Mimi.
My
name
is
trusting
digs
down
with
with
the
rules
not
being
look
fully
outlined,
basically
of
the
agreement.
A
It's
the
first
time
things
the
first
time
Mimi's
doing
it,
and
you
know
you
gotta,
be
optimistic
about
these
things.
Sort
of
and
kind
of,
like
the
other
thing
is
I
guess
many
times
you
have
someone
who's
very
loud
and
just
because
that
person,
or
that
even
that
few
people
are
very
loud
I,
don't
think
they
represent.
Maybe
you
know
this.
A
You
know
the
rest
of
the
community
and
yeah
I
know
like
I
guess
voting.
Maybe
the
best
way
is
to
rehash
and
do
like
another
Proposal
with
a
little
bit
more
extended
terms
to
appease
I,
guess
the
holders
and
then
maybe
some
reputation
holders
and
then
yeah
like
like
get
on
the
way,
because
again
another
way
you
know
one
of
the
things
here
is
the
ens
name
and
the
other
thing
is
to
just
to
allow
you
guys
to
get
started.
Basically,
I.
Guess
you
guys
already.
D
I
guess
it
was
also
like
the
argument
that
nearly
all
of
the
Excel
10
and
DXL
has
no
legal
Avenue
to
get
this
so
the
in
ens
kind
of
guarantees
that
which
I
think
is
not
so
nice
to
be
honest,
I
think
we
also
have
a
ton
of
DxD
me
Adam
that
and
Milan,
which
could
also
be
burned.
D
If
there
is
anything
malicious
you
know
so
I
think
holding
on
to
an
ens
to
like
like
have
it's
almost
I,
don't
I
don't
want
to
say
blackmailing,
but
it's
like
you
know
we
own
this
and
you
know
I,
don't
know
it
feels
like
a
weird
dynamic
overall
to
me.
I
think
it's
not
typical
in
any
type
of
investment
that
the
investor
or
incubator
holds
on
to
like
key
components
of
a
product.
D
Right
but
I
mean
man,
you
know,
maybe
maybe
it's
just
a
matter
of
making
a
proposal
on
chain
and
it
will
be
sent
over.
You
know
so
like
maybe
it's
not
a
big
issue.
You
know
what
I'm
just
like
hearing
repeating
what
I've
heard
from
the
XD
holders
and
chats
with
people
and
across
the
Discord.
You
know.
A
Yeah
is
there
anyone
who's
like
I'm,
assuming
there
are
some
people,
I
wasn't
aware,
like
any
any
of
the
chats.
I
saw
some
things
in
the
Forum,
but
yeah
is
there
one
specifically
opposed
to
Country
DNS
and
we
did.
The
discussion
could
be
with
them.
D
Yeah
I
mean,
to
be
honest,
my
main
concern
is
John
and
Gerald
just
downstaking
it
just
for
fun,
though
I
guess
that's
how
they
entertain
themselves.
I,
don't
know
that
is
really
at
the
current
time.
My
main
concern
that
it
will
just
be
jammed
from
a
governance
perspective.
You
know.
D
E
Maybe
do
both
seems
like
a
good
opportunity
to
establish
a
relation
between
nimian
and
dxr,
or
these
try
to
do
it,
but
the
the
only
issue
that
I
see
here
is
that
if
you
try
to
not
fix
but
again
like
for
establish
this
relation
and
transfer
the
ens
domain
to
nimi
more
than
it
will
help
the
situation.
E
D
Yeah
I
mean
I,
think
I
think
we'll
be
happy
to
also
I
mean
we
haven't
even
touched
100K
we
got
from
the
Excel,
we'll
be
happy
to
even
return
them
and
then
only
get
the
funds
back
once
we
renegotiate
new
terms,
you
know
like
I,
don't
want
to
make
it
look
like
we're,
trying
to
get
the
ens
and
run
away.
You
know
if
that's
like
a
more
favorable
solution,
I
think
that's
not
an
issue
at
all.
D
Right,
like
I,
think
I
I
mean
I
would
hope
that
both
parties
want
a
good
arrangement
that
works
for
everyone
right.
So
it's
not
like
we're
trying
to
run
away
or
something
you
know,
I
think
it's
I
I
generally,
don't
think
it
makes
sense
for
the
Dow
to
own
an
ens
which
of
a
project
in
which
it
has
a
small
stake,
and
you
know,
of
course,
if
it
only
me
fully,
that's
a
completely
different
topic.
D
You
know,
but
in
this
case,
especially
the
circumstances
of
how
it
received
the
ens
domain
right,
like
I
I
would
like
to
think
that
DX
Dao
didn't
incubate
Mimi
solely
because
it
hold
the
ens
domain.
You
know
I
would
hope
that
exactly
yeah,
even
if
we
own
the
ens
domain
ourselves,
the
Excel
would
have
still
been
interested
in
incubating
us.
You
know
like
I
would
really
hope
that
and
I
built
I'm
pretty
sure
that
is
the
case.
You
know.
D
So
it's
just
due
to
yeah
weird
circumstances
that
the
ens
did
end
up
in
control
of
the
Dao,
but
yeah
so
I
think
we're
happy
to
you
know
start
from
a
clean
slate.
I
mean,
of
course,
account
for
what
has
been
paid,
our
salaries
and
stuff
in
the
new
proposal,
or
just
I,
don't
know,
but
I
I,
yeah
I
think
it's
like
starting
to
think
about
it.
And
if
anyone
has
suggestions
here,
you
know
we're
completely
open.
You
know
and
I
mean
we
also
have
a
ton
of
DxD
I.
Think
me
Zed,
Adam
and
Milan.
E
Yep
yep
again
I
I
mean
I'm
completely
in
favor
of
DNS
being
on
them
and
control.
But
what
that's
just
me
right:
if
there
is
no
proposal
where
I
can
express
my
opinion
or
or
My
Governor's
opinion
right
on
the
matter
of
x,
executing
my
government
right,
I
mean
I,
cannot
do
it
so
in
case
that
that
happens,
I
will
vote
on
fire
on
that
and
seems
like
a
good
opportunity.
Also
to
again,
let's
restart
with
the
relation
with
clear,
with
more
clear
terms
and
yeah
do
all
things.
D
Yeah
I
mean
maybe
this
maybe
I
know
Forums
on
the
poll.
It
depends
on
who
does
them
and
their
validity?
You
know
if
you
do
them
too.
Well,
anyway,
it's
a
useless
comment,
but
maybe
it's
yeah.
It's
a
good
way
to
maybe
put
up
a
couple
of
polls
in
the
Forum
and
I
know
it's
not
the
best
way
of
gorging
interest.
You
know
but
see
what
people
think
what
the
term
should
be
and
stuff
like
this
and
then
maybe
just
submit
a
proposal
based
on
that
outcome
and
see
how
it
goes.
D
E
Yes,
I
agree:
it's
not
ideal,
but
Wireless
they're
getting
right,
yeah,
anything
that
we
can
that
we
can
do
to
move
forward
on
this
anyway.
I
can
continue
building
with
your
ens
domain
and
being
part
of
the
Excel
and
not
the
incubation
process
right
because
I
I
mean
it.
It
is
clear
you
are
doing
a
very
good,
a
good
work
on
Mimi
and
it's
been
great,
so
we
want
to
continue
on
that
right,
at
least
from
my
side.
E
That's
that's
what
I'm
seeing
so
if
we
have
something
that
is
blocking
us,
vxr
or
nimi
relation,
let's
try
to
fix
it,
I
think
or
it
also
it
can
be
fixed.
It's
not
something
that
is
unreconcilable.
A
D
Yeah
but
I
I
have
to
say,
like
I,
I,
think
I
think
that
can
be
circumvented
like
I've
been.
This
is
I
asked
me.
D
I
spoke
to
a
few
people
who
have
a
lot
of
gen
and
if,
if,
if
we
are
able
to
prove
to
them
that
it
will
actually
pass
with
a
rap
vote
so
like
you
can
already
vote
on
a
proposal
that
isn't
boosted
right,
you
lose
a
bit
of
a
rep
in
in
the
meantime,
but
I
think
like
if
we
can
prove
that
a
proposal
will
pass
with
a
either
a
rap
snapshot
or
anything
like
that.
I
think
we
will
have
plenty
of
gem
to
stake
on
it.
D
You
know
like,
ultimately,
the
the
other
side
will
also
lose
their
stake.
If
The
Proposal
passes
right
and
I've
actually
been
thinking
about
this,
a
lot
I
think
there
should
also
be
a
little
cost
to
staking
in
holographic
consensus,
because
right
now,
with
the
useless
token,
it
does
allow
you
to
jam
right,
but
I
think
that
we
should
like
I.
Think
Jen
is
fine.
E
Yeah
we
talked
about
that
on
the
form.
This
is,
this
is
frustrating
I,
think
that's
a
idea
adjective,
because
we
want
to
decide
on
something
and
we
are
being
blocked
on
that
with
no
reason.
So
again,
this
is
very
frustrating
and
again
it
can
block
our
governance
process,
which
is
why
it's
very
bad
there
are.
There
are
again
something
that
we
will
change
in
the
next
governance
implementation.
There's
going,
there
is
not
going
to
be
both
a
reputation,
loss
ratio.
E
We
are
going
to
have
schemes
specifically
designed
where
staking
is
going
to
be
even
more
expensive
and
I.
Again,
we
are
going
to
address
these
issues
in
a
few
in
the
future
on
the
technical
level,
but
this
is
quite
frustrating
not
not
to
be
able
to
or
not
being
sure
of
of
Samia
proportions.
You
don't
know
if
it's
going
to
be,
don't
take
it
forever
and
yeah.
I
know
I
hope
this.
This
ends
soon.
C
One
last
good
and
I
think
Davi
Davi.
The
open
beta
comes
out
today.
Is
that
correct
Russian,
not
here
but
Augusta
Dino.
E
I
was
looking
for
the
mid
weather
and
button
m
M,
yes,
I
think
so.
Ross
is
in
charge
of
that
I'm
working
on
the
on
the
smart
context,
so
I
haven't
be
following
up
with
that
date.
I
haven't
talked
with
with
Ross
about
that
yeah.
C
Just
I
guess
we
said
last
week,
but
just
stress
again
when
it's
when
it's
ready,
we're
gonna
have
a
handful
of
yeah
sample
Dows
or
you
know
Dows
for
certain
reasons
that
we
need
everyone
to
participate
in
and
use.
So
we
can
get
feedback
on
it
and
and
test
it
and
and
improve
it
and
and
hopefully
get
it
to
a
point
where
it's
ready
ready
to
use.
But
we
need
yeah,
we
need.
We
need
active
users
of
it.
Basically,.
A
Yeah
cool
I,
don't
know.
Is
there
anything
thanks
that
we
want
to
chat
about.
E
A
Okay,
I
guess
we
can
yeah
call
it
early.
Maybe.