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From YouTube: DXbiz Weekly Gathering [2021-12-20]
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B
Epns
is
something
that
probably
people
have
heard
about
for
a
while,
and
you
know
it's
something
that
people
always,
I
think,
probably
talked
about
wanting
and
so
now
that
it's
here
excited
to
learn
more
about
it.
I
don't,
I
actually
don't
know
too
much
about
it
and
then
for
topic.
Discussions
dave
you're
here,
so
we,
the
last
week
we've
been
throwing
around
this
idea
of
of
sponsoring
esports
related
to
like
some
esports
teams
out
there
that
are
really
interested
in
becoming
and
using
dow
infrastructure.
B
We
have
initiated
out
initiative
doubt
which
is
now
live
and
funded,
and
I
there's
a
few
people
that
are
already
wanting
to
request
some
funds
for
some
ideas,
which
is
cool
the
there
is
also
a
new
proposal
for
to
ask
what
is
now
gnosis
dao
related
to
gnosis
chain,
post-merger
of
x,
diagnosis
and
gnosis
chain.
There's
a
proposal
to
basically
ask
for
the
incentive
rewards
that
were
already
supported
by
the
xdi
community,
and
now
that
kind
of
stake
has
changed
into
gno.
B
We
have
a
plan
to
re-ask
for
these
rewards
just
to
cover
what
was
being
expected
and
and
to
like
trial,
some
additional
multi-road
incentives
on
on
farming
for
swapper,
and
so
one
good
thing
is
it's
one
of
the
first
proposals
I
believe
to
gnosis
dow.
I
mean
there's
a
couple
other
ones
related,
but
post
merger.
B
So
it
will
be
interesting
to
see
how
a
small
proposal
like
that
kind
of
goes
through
the
gnosis
dow
proposal
process,
which
I
think
we
might
need
some
help
with
to
like
get
it
get
the
actual
proposal
live
into
what
is
effectively
snape
safe
snaps,
which
I'm
not
really
familiar
with
myself.
B
Then
yeah
there's
a
update
on
echo
xd
echo
endow
and
then
yet
nathan
just
raised
an
interesting
discussion
around
leveraging
carrot,
dx
styles
recent
product
to
get
involved
in
kind
of
the
greenification
of
gnosis
chain,
and
there
already
have
been
green
initiatives
related
to
to
xdi
network
and
now
will
be
carry
will
most
likely
carry
over
to
gnosis
chain
as
well.
And
so
if
we
can
leverage
carrot
for
some
unique
case
there,
that
would
be
pretty
cool
and
then
into
dx
events.
B
We
have
two
proposals,
live
for
the
dx,
dow
sponsorship
of
east
denver
and
then
a
couple
of
other
ideas
we
can
discuss
and
then
potentially,
if
we
get
to
have
time
at
the
end,
we
can
touch
on
dx
ventures,
opportunities
and
anything
else.
People
bring
up,
but
that's
the
agenda
which
is
pretty
packed
and
we
will
start
off
today
with
jeff
from
epns
and
jeff.
We
don't
have.
We
don't
have
any
specific.
B
I
think
everyone's
here
excited
to
learn
about
apns
and-
and
maybe,
if
there's
anything
nathan,
you
wanted
to
add
before
we
start
but
yeah.
If
you
wanted
to
like
kind
of
give
an
overview
and
and
what,
how
where
you
guys
have
come
from
and
maybe
for
like
10
or
so
minutes
or
10
or
15
minutes,
and
then
we
can
ask
any
questions
or
things
like
that
would
be
interesting.
B
C
All
right,
my
name
is
jafet,
but
you
can
call
me
jeff.
I'm
operations
lead
at
epns
and
I
even
prepared,
like
a
like
a
small
presentation
for
today,
just
just
to
make
sure
that
everybody
has
a
clear
idea
on
their
minds
about
what
epns
is
what
we're
bringing
to
the
table,
and
you
know
you
already
with
this
intro.
You
already
presented
a
bunch
of
ideas
to
me
that
they
are
really
really
interesting,
so
I
think
going
over
the
presentation.
A
B
B
C
Cool
okay,
so
what's
the
pns
at
you
know
at
a
high
level,
if
you
go
to
our
website,
sometimes
you
know
people
can
can
think
of
it
as
a
notifications
engine
but
in
reality,
epns
is
much
more
than
that,
because
what
we're
building
is
what
it
says
here:
the
world
first
communication
protocol.
What
we're
building
is
a
middleware
for
the
web3
to
function
as
the
as
the
communication
middleware
for
the
web3,
so
it
will
be
more
than
notifications.
C
That's
that's
why
we
put
this
here
in
in
between
parentheses,
because
it's
more
than
notifications
by
the
way,
if
you
have
any
questions
whatsoever,
you
know
during
the
presentation.
Please
interrupt
me.
I
love
asking
you
know
answering
questions
all
right.
Let
me
continue
okay,
so
yeah.
This
is
something
that
we
always
like
to
to
start
with
this,
just
because
it
shows
what
epns
is.
Let
me
show
you
it's
a
quick
video.
Hopefully
you
can
hear
the
the
can.
You
hear
the
audio
no
hold
on
one
quick.
Second
sure.
C
C
A
All
right,
it
was
previously
called
itunes.
It's
now
the
app
store
right
and
and
also
on
the
google
play
store.
We
are
there.
It's
fully
functional
right,
fully
functional
just
waiting
for
mainnet,
correct.
C
Good
we're
going
to
get
there
in
a
minute
all
right,
so
now
that
we
started
off
with
the
good
vibes.
What
are
we
right?
What's
epns,
so
epns
is
basically,
we
call
ourselves
ourselves
the
missing
piece
of
the
web
3
because
well,
if
you
think
about
it
this
that
we
put
here
that
the
communication
is
in
in
the
stone
age
it.
It
really
is
true
right.
This
is
not
the
90s
user.
C
Most
likely
is
that
you,
you
are
having
to
go
visit
those
10
platforms
and
check.
What's
what's
up
with
your
positions,
if
you
have
loans,
if
you
have,
if
you
have
one
a
lottery
or
something
like
that,
that's
why
we
call
it
that
right
now,
the
communication
in
the
web
3
is
in
the
stone
age.
That's
why
why
we
are
the
missing
piece
of
the
web
3..
C
We
are
adding
that
missing
link
that
is
stopping
the
users
to
having
to
go
fetch
information
by
themselves
and
have
the
information
flow
to
the
users
like
it
happens
right
now,
every
day
in
our
lives,
most
likely
as
soon
as
we
wake
up
in
the
morning,
you
already
have
some
push
notifications
on
your
phone
right.
That's
that's
what
we
are
used
to
that's
the
practical
thing
and
it
doesn't
exist
in
the
web
3
right
now.
So
that's
what
we
are
here
to
fix.
C
Now,
how
are
we
fixing
it?
We
are
creating
an
open
permissionless
communication
layer
that
allows
protocols,
platform
and
services
to
send
notifications,
and
it's
important
this
part
that
it
says
here
is
not
only
text
notifications,
you,
you
will
not
only
get
text,
saying
hey,
something
happened
with
with
your
account,
but
you
will
get
you
can
get
multimedia
content,
so
that
is
videos
that
is
pictures
whatever
you
need
to
send,
and
one
of
the
cool
things
is
that
since
we
started
all
this
this
journey,
is
it
still
recurring?
Yeah?
Okay,
sorry
about
that.
C
C
So
what
what
somebody
was
mentioning
a
minute
ago,
yeah
we
do
have
a
mobile
app
that
we
do
have
it
in
in
the
two
flavors
in
the
two
main
flavors
right,
ios
and
android,
and
we
have
a
browser
extension
as
well.
We
have
back-end
and
front-end
sdks,
even
a
mobile
sdk,
that
we're
releasing
soon.
So
if
you
have
a
mobile
app,
you
can
even
integrate
receiving
notifications
in
your
mobile
app.
C
But
this
is
all
that
we
that
we
have
been
considering
since
the
very
beginning,
so
the
entire
protocol
is
built
around
being
very
thin,
very
with
the
ethos
and
that's
what
we're
building,
if
you
think
about
it,
users
nowadays,
especially
in
the
in
the
crypto
space,
they
are
very
privacy,
centric,
very
user
centric,
and
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
sending
notifications
or,
let's
call
it
information
to
their
wallet,
addresses.
So
you
as
a
user.
You
don't
have
to
provide
anything.
C
C
This
is
light.
This
is
like
I
wanted
to
take
one
minute,
just
to
explain
and
and
to
put
ideas
on
your
mind.
I
think
that's
part
of
of
one
of
the
goals
today
to
put
ideas
of
what
you
can
accomplish
with
web
3
notifications.
C
So
these
are
just
let's
say
three
categories
of
use:
cases
defy
nft's
gaming
and
lottery
and
web3
services.
So
one
very,
very
popular
d5k
use
case
that
we
that
we've
spotted
since
the
very
beginning
is,
if
you
have
a
loan,
an
active
loan
in
a
defy
platform.
You
want
to
receive
an
alert,
a
notification
saying
your
loan
is
about
to
get
liquidated,
so
you
get
a
notification
and,
as
I
was
saying,
it's
not
only
text
that
you
get.
C
So
now,
looking
at
it
from
this
point
of
view,
epns
becomes
ep
as
web
3
notifications
becomes
a
tool
for
user
engagement
and
user
retention
in
the
case
of
of
defy
yeah
we're
talking
about
you
taking
an
action
on
your
own
specific
account,
your
own
loans,
but
there
are
other
cases,
for
example,
that
I'm
not
mentioning
here,
but
governance
is
one
that
is
very
interesting.
You
get
a
notification
saying,
hey,
there's
a
new
proposal,
go
read
it
or
you
can
actually
read
it
from
the
notification
itself,
but
even
more
more
cool
than
that.
C
If
you
click
it,
it
will
take
you
to
where
the
notification,
the
proposal
is
so,
let's
say
it's
a
snapshot.
It
will
take
you
to
snapshot.
You
can
cast
your
vote
there.
You
know
once
you
get
the
notification,
but
even
more
cool
is
something
that
we're
releasing
soon
next
year.
C
It's
the
ability
to
cast
a
vote
from
the
notification
itself
right.
So
that's!
That's
the
like
this,
the
capabilities
of
ep
notifications.
They
are
very
expandable
in
the
case
I'm
going
to
keep
an
eye
on
the
chat
just
in
case
and
then
of
course
again.
If
you
have
any
questions,
just
interrupt
me,
that's
that's
what
I'm
here
to
to
answer
in
the
case
of
gaming,
if
you
think
about
it,
let's
say
you
participated
in
in
one
of
those:
no
loss
lottery.
C
What
if
you
have
a
million
dollars
waiting
for
you
in
your
wallet,
and
you
just
don't
know
about
it,
so
nobody
told
you
about
it,
but
if
you,
if
you
were
to
receive
a
push
notification
on
your
phone
directly
saying
you
just
want
a
million
dollars
would
probably
not
be
in
this
call
all
right.
So
that's
another
case
and
finally,
the
the
web
3
services.
I'm
I
put
this
one
here,
ins
domain
expiration,
because
this
is
a
great
example.
C
We
do
have
a
collaboration
with
ens
right
now,
where,
historically,
if
you,
if
you
wanted
to
keep
an
eye
on
your
domain,
to
understand
if
it
was
going
to
expire,
you
had
to
keep
an
eye
on
discord
or
twitter
or
any
other
alternative
that
that
they
offer.
For
example,
you
know
giving
away
your
email,
but
what?
If,
instead
of
that
you
get
that
notification
saying
your
domain
is
about
to
expect
click
here
to
go.
Renew
you
click
it
and
you
go
to
your
very
own
specific,
renew
page
for
your
very
own
domain.
C
C
Let
me
move
on
talking
a
little
bit
about
where
we
are
and
what's
coming,
we
are
building
additional
practical
features.
Yes,
this
is
a
very,
very
interesting
one
because,
as
I
was
saying,
it's
not
only
about
notifications,
it's
communication
in
general.
C
This
is
something
that
we
are
going
to
start
working
on
very
early
next
year,
decentralized,
video
and
chat,
and
it's
going
to
be
tough,
challenging
and
really
really
cool
for
sure
governance
control
is
the
example
that
I
was
that
I
was
giving
you
just
a
minute
ago
and
of
course,
everything
that
comes
with
being
cross
chain:
gas
optimizations.
C
That
is
everyone's
homework
right
now
we
are
cross
chain
compatible.
Already
a
month
ago
we
run
a
poc
during
the
solana
solana
event
and
it
worked
beautiful
well,
the
name
of
the
protocol
is
ethereum
push
notification
service.
We
we
were
born
in
ethereum,
we
love
ethereum,
but
we
understand
that
that
going
to
other
chains
is
super
important,
so
we
are
right
now
we
are
evm
compatible
and
non-evm
compatible.
That
means
we
can
install
our
services
in
any
of
the
other
chains.
C
We
have
done
several
proof
of
concepts
already
just
that
the
popular
one
that
that
we
that
we
did
during
solano
was
was
there
with
solana
and,
of
course,
we're
going
to
polygon
first.
This
is
something
that
I
was
mentioning
before.
We
are
developing
as
the
case
because
being
an
infrastructure
protocol,
it
makes
sense
to
make
a
a
lot
of
our
efforts
gone
through
gone
to
the
development
community
because
they
are
the
ones
that
are
going
to
be
actually
implementing
solutions.
C
And,
finally,
let
me
just
confirm
something:
yeah,
finally,
a
little
bit
about
the
roadmap,
but
before
we
go
into
roadmap,
I
I
wanted
to
ask
if
anybody
has
any
any
questions.
B
Yeah
yeah
well
as
a
dow.
B
We
we
basically
and
we
have
lots
of
products.
We
don't
collect,
email
addresses
and
stuff.
So
at
this
point
we
don't
have
a
way
to
contact
the
users
of
our
products.
This
obviously
seems
like
a
good
way
to
do.
It
is
the
is
this
built
so
that
a
dow
itself
can
use
it,
or
is
it
like?
Normally
like
a
person
on
behalf
of
the
dao
is?
Is.
C
B
C
Question:
okay,
so
right
now,
the
way
we
are
working
out,
the
collaborations
with
the
different
sorry
with
the
different
teams
and
protocols,
is
that
we
take
care
of
developing
the
notifications
ourselves.
So
you,
for
example,
you
give
us
a
subset
of
five
notifications
that
you
would
be
interested
in.
We
are
going
to
create
the
channel
for
you
we're
going
to
that's
the
communication
channel.
C
I
will
explain
in
a
second
we're
going
to
create
a
channel
for
you
we're
going
to
develop
the
notifications
as
you
as
you
describe
them,
we're
going
to
verify
that
they
are
actually
what
you
are
expecting
and
what
we
have
been
doing
with
different
protocols
and
teams
is
that
we
develop
it.
C
We
host
it
in
our
infrastructure
right
for
some
time
until
you
get
used
to
how
the
notifications
work,
even
if
there
are
modifications
to
me
to
be
made,
but
you
the
the
dao,
will
be
the
owner
of
the
channel
so
that
wallet
that
is
used
to
create
the
channel
is.
It
becomes
like
one
more
asset
for
the
dao,
because
they
are
the
ones
that
can
delegate
us
to
send
notifications
on
their
behalf
right,
which
is
what
what
is
happening
right
now.
C
So
we
are
having
protocols
create
their
wallets,
their
channels
so
that
they
are
the
true
owners
of
their
channels
and
they,
they
delegate
us
for
some
time
to
handle
the
notification
services
for
them
and
at
the
moment
you
feel
safe
of
you
know,
running
your
own
infrastructure
and
everything
that's
needed.
Then.
At
that
moment
you
just
you
know,
remove
the
delegation
cool
thanks.
A
Yeah
for
the
viewers
who
might
watch
this
later
on
youtube-
and
I
advised
jeff
before
the
call.
Basically
d5
is
a
spectrum
nowadays,
even
if
it's
called
g5
it's
rarely
truly
decentralized
and
on
that
spectrum,
gx
tao
is
probably
one
of
the
extremes,
and
I
gave
jeff
an
example
of
how
textile
leverages
ens
domains
and
how
the
entire
dow
owns
the
domains
and
they
are
managed
through
on-chain
governance,
and
there
is
no
single
centralized
points
in
which
hands
any
of
the
domains
are.
C
And
I
did,
I
did
ask
our
engineering
lead
as
well
just
to
triple
check
right
before
I
came
to
this
call
and
yeah
the
the
way
we
are
built,
it's
pretty
straightforward
and
well
when
we
start,
we
still
suggest
that
themes
and
protocols
they
like
we
were
this
together
at
the
beginning.
It's
very
very
easy
to
later
on
move
to
to
this
approach
that
you
described
where
the
dao
will
take
care
of
deciding
when
to
push
something
and
developers
will
submit
their
work
and
it's
completely
doable.
C
And
one
one
thing
that
I
I
think
it's
important
I
did-
I
didn't
mention
it
before,
but
there
is
an
analogy
that
we
always
use
to
explain.
What's
a
channel
and
a
channel,
the
analogy
that
we
love
using
is
is
youtube
if
you
are,
if
you
are
a
content
producer,
and
you
want
your
followers
to
receive
notifications
from
your
new
content,
then
you
create
a
channel
where
your
followers
can
subscribe
to
it
and
receive
those
notifications.
C
So
that's
the
a
good
analogy
that
will
help
people
understand.
What's
a
channel
and
inside
the
channel,
you
will
have
multiple
types
of
notifications
that
you
can
that
you
can
prepare
and
send
to
your
user
base.
One
there's
a
question
in
the
chat
saying:
if
youtube
is
notoriously
bad
at
notifications?
Well,
yeah!
That's
why
we
use
it
as
an
analogy
we're
notoriously
good
at
notifications.
A
As
a
dow
incentivize
developers
from
the
wider
community
to
create
channels
as
bounties
as
well.
C
Yeah,
actually,
you
know
what
I
I
was
getting
a
little
bit
better.
This
is.
This
is
a
ui
that
we
put
together.
So
people
understand
this
is
a
very
visual
way
of
understanding
what
the
channel
is.
So
basically,
what
you
see
here
is
a
list
of
a
thousand
channels
that
we
have.
This
is
our
staging
environment.
C
So,
right
now,
I'm
logged
in
with
this
wallet.
Yeah.
Okay,
I'm
logged
in
with
this
wallet.
So
if,
if
I
search
through
the
list
of
my
channels,
I
prepared
one
very
recently
this
one-
I
can
opt
in
to
receive
notifications
from
my
channel.
It's
only
an
off-chain
transaction.
You
just
have
to
sign
and
that's
it
you
sign
boom
you're
opted
in
to
the
channel
to
receive
notifications.
C
Now,
if
let
me
show
you
now,
if
I
switch
to
the
channel
owner
wallet,
which
is
the
one
that,
of
course
you
will
be
handling
so
now
you
will
see
this
changing
here.
If
you
click
it,
you'll
go
to
the
back
end
again.
This
is
a
very
visual
way
of
seeing
this.
But
ideally
you
are
not
limited
to
anything
you
can.
You
can
consume
data
from
any
source.
You
want
web
tour
web
resource,
prepare
your
notification
payload
and
send
it
to
be
sent
to
wallet
addresses.
C
So
what
I
wanted
to
show
you
is:
let's,
let's
send
a
broadcast,
I'm
going
to
send
a
subject.
This
is
a
demo
for
the
x
dao.
C
C
C
What
I
what
I,
what
I
was
mentioning
about
a
call
to
action
link
is
this:
whenever
they
come
with
a
blue
border,
let's
say
for
the
proposal
example
that
I
was
giving
you
so
this
would
be
the
text
of
the
proposal,
but
if
you
click
it,
it
will
take
you
to
wherever
you
want
the
user
to
go,
that
is
to
snapshot
or
or
any
of
the
other
dial
tools
and
look
at
this
yeah.
This
is
a
staging,
so
sorry
about
that.
C
There
there's
still
a
couple
of
things
but
anyway,
what
I
wanted
to
show
you
is
this
is
the
browser
extension
already
working
the
mobile
app?
We
have
it
in
the
two
flavors,
also
working.
So
what
I'm
saying
is
right
now
we
have
a
working
product,
we
have
a
working
product
that
anybody
can
use
and,
and
they
can
subscribe
if
they
go
to
app.epns.io.
C
We
have
some
really
good
examples.
This
one
is
running
on
dropstem,
because
this
is
the
one
that,
by
the
way
on
january
11th,
we
are
going
to
mainnet,
but
you
see
it
will
show
you
some
of
the
channels
that
we
have
running
so
we
have
a
channel
that
is
observing
at
events
in
the
polygon
network
right
in
the
polygon
chain.
Sorry-
and
these
are
three
channels
that
we
have
this
one
for
unisop-
is
interesting
because
it's
actually
governance.
A
Yeah
jeff.
First
of
all
the
example
you
gave
you
had
to
sign
the
transaction
to
send
the
notification,
but
those
can
also
be
automated
so
that
you
know,
because
the
dow
cannot
sign
messages
and
and
when
a
certain
on
chain
action
happens
in
adapt,
the
notification
will
be
sent
automatically.
Then
no
one
would
need
to
sign
off
any
communication
just
to
clarify
that,
and
also
can
you
explain
exactly
how
the
core
contract
on
mainnet
communicates
with
the
communication
contracts
on
the
side
chains
and
l2
chains?
C
A
C
Okay,
this
is
it
this
one
explains
it
very
well.
So
this
is
how
we
are
set
up.
We
have
an
epns
core
contract,
which
is
the
one
that
that
mostly
take
care
of,
like
the
name
says
it,
of
course,
stuff
like
creating
a
channel
and
and
things
that
are
very
core
to
the
functionality
of
the
product.
Right.
C
These
are
the
contracts
that
you
have
to
consider
like,
like
satellites
living
in
other
chains
or
contracts
living
in
other
chains
that
have
the
capability,
through
the
push
notes,
to
communicate
with
the
epns
core
contract
that
is
handling
everything
related
to
to
channels
and
stuff.
So
your
question
is:
is
really
good
because
it
brings
this
topic.
Push
notes.
C
C
This
is
what
is
enabling
us
to
do
off-chain
delivery
of
notifications,
because
this
is
a
peer-to-peer
network
of
notes
that
is
its
main
functionality,
among
others,
but
its
main
functionality
is
that
keeping
an
eye
on
the
notifications
that
need
to
be
sent
and
delivering
them
to
wallet,
addresses
or,
let's
call
it
web3
recipients,
because
epns
is
also
allowing
for
contract
to
contract
integration
and
other
things
about
the
the
incentives
and
slashing
mechanisms
they
are
still
not
defined.
For
the
push
notes,
that's
something
that
we
are
still
discussing
internally
on.
C
What's
the
best
way
to
do
it,
because
there
are
different
approaches
towards
incentives
and
and
yeah,
mostly
incentives
in
epns.
So
this
one
is
still
in
in
is
still
in
discussions.
A
And-
and
so
I
believe
I
as
a
user,
if
I
download
the
app
and
subscribe
to
a
certain
channel,
I
would
have
to
pay
for
the
feed.
C
Oh,
I
see,
I
see
what
you're
saying,
I'm
sorry,
no
you!
This
is
completely
40
for
users.
This
is
what
I
was
showing
here
for
users
is
completely
completely
free
users,
so
this
channel
I'm
not
opted
into
this
channel.
I
just
sign
a
transaction.
I
don't
even
need
to
have
any.
Let
me
show
you,
I
don't
even
have
to
have
any
asset
well
in
this
one.
I
have
assets,
but
you
know.
Let
me
let
me
go
to
this
one.
Let's
say
I
have
nothing
here.
C
C
C
C
C
C
No,
the
way,
okay,
the
way
this
works
is
we
are
thinking
of
following
a
traditional
software
as
a
service
model
in
the
future.
We
don't
expect
that
to
to
start
not
even
in
one
year
from
now,
because
that
goes
hand
by
hand
with
governance,
so
there
will
be
a
fee
for
services
to
send
notifications
to
their
user
bases
that
fee.
C
We
don't
expect
it
to
be
any
any
anything
meaningful
like
we
are
expecting
it
to
be
even
lower
than
the
80
or
something,
but
why
we
don't
have
those
numbers
yet
because
that
comes
hand
by
hand
with
governance,
when
governance
gets
more
traction
and
and
our
community
is
more
educated
into
governance
decisions,
they
will
be
able
to
to
play
a
role
in
defining,
what's
going
to
be
that
fee,
but
the
only
cost
for
for
services
or
channels
or
dows
to
send
notifications
to
their
user
base.
C
A
Definitely
actually
a
big
question
on
security
now,
given
those
nodes
in
in
the
push
in
in
the
middle
diagram,
what
was
the
push
nodes,
yeah
yeah,
those
are
off
chain.
Now?
How
would
you
secure
that
network?
Would
they
need
to
stake
assets
and
be
penalized
if
they
try
to
push
fake
notifications
and
scam
people?
What
if
a
rogue
node
sends
me
a
message
that
redirects
me
to
a
page
that
looks
just
like
uniswap
and
makes
me
do
an
action
that
drains
my
wallet?
C
Okay
same
as,
as
you
know,
in
ethereum
another
another
blockchains
right,
this
is
going
to
be
a
peer-to-peer
network
of
nodes
there.
There
are
other
ideas
in
the
pipeline
that
will
that
will
help
battle.
This,
like
like
certification
of
notes,
and
things
like
that
right,
which
will
help
saying
okay.
C
This
is
a
note
that
is
actually
certified
to
deliver
notifications
for
this
service
right,
that's
coming
in
the
future,
but
yeah
in
in
reality,
the
network
itself
and
the
the
slashing
and
incentive
mechanisms
are
part
are
a
big
part
of
this.
A
Yeah
yeah,
as
long
as
probably
I
assume
it,
it
happens,
trustlessly
with
open
contracts
and
if
a
dow
approves
a
certain
channel
and
that
channel
gets
redirected
and
any
notifications
from
that
channel
get
redirected
from
the
push
notes
onto
the
users.
Without
the
push
notes
being
able
to
modify
anything
on
them,
then
it's
it's
solid,
yeah.
C
That
is,
that
is
something
that
you
know.
It's
not
part
of
of
the
domain
of
things
that
I'm
handling
right
now,
but
the
thing
is
that,
right
now,
we're
fully
fully
focused
on
remain
at
launch,
but
this
is
a
topic
that
we
definitely
want
to
revisit
early
next
year.
C
Our
maintenance
launch
is
scheduled
for
january
11th,
so
all
hands
on
deck
right
now
are
on
on
our
main
at
lunch,
but
right
after
we're
going
to
resume
some
of
the
conversations
that
we
have
had
to
put
on
hold
through
this
time,
and-
and
this
is
one
of
them
good
yeah,.
B
Well,
thanks
jeff
for
the
very
detailed
explanation
and
overview.
I
think
now
that
we
know
this
exists.
I
think
we
can
start
to
think
about
how
dx
dao
can
use
it
in
what
scenarios
there's
a
like.
It's
still
opt-in,
though,
like
the
users
have
to
opt-in.
So
you
can't
just
like
send
notifications
to
everyone
that
holds
dxd,
for
example,
right.
C
A
C
C
Yeah,
so
whenever
you
download
the
app,
let's
say
for
the
first
time,
one
month
after
you
started,
then
when
you,
when
you
opt
in
to
receive
notifications,
you
will
see
the
spam
box
in
there
and
the
spam
box
will
contain
a
bunch
of
notifications
that
you
would
have
gotten
if
you
were
subscribed
to
the
to
the
channel
before.
A
C
C
B
C
And
actually
that
brings
one
topic
that
I
wanted
to
to
touch
upon.
That's
the
spam
right
so
usually,
usually
when
people
are
asked
to
opt
into
alerts,
they
are
discouraged
because
of
how
spammy
it
can
get
as
crypto
does
not
slip.
C
So
we
introduced
what
we
call
spam
score
and,
while
being
a
decentralized
network,
we
cannot
really
take
an
arbitrary
decision
and
ban
or
block
someone.
At
the
same
time,
we
know
that
bad
actors
will
come
and
they
will
try
to
to
game
the
system
right.
So
we
are
building
what
we
call
spam
score.
That
is
not
built
yet,
but
but
it
is
in
development
and
it
awards
or
penalizes
a
channel
based
on
behavior.
C
So
that's
how
we
are
doing
our
part
battling
spam
as
well.
C
Yeah
no
thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
and
again
I
wanted
to
remind
you
if
you,
if
you
want
to
start
exploring
notifications
for
the
dao
or
for
any
of
the
products
under
your
umbrella,
it'll
be
great.
C
If
you,
you
know,
if
you
provide
me
just
a
small
subset
of
notifications
that
we
can
start
you
know
talking
about,
we
will
take
care
of
delivering
all
the
all
the
notifications
for
you
and
taking
care
of
all
the
development
activities,
and
it
just
requires
follow-up
follow-up
meeting,
just
to
make
sure
that
it
works
how
you
are
expecting
it
wonderful.
C
A
I'll
add
contributors
of
the
dao
and
and
you
colleagues
on
your
side,
yeah.
C
Definitely
that
sounds
awesome
and
yeah.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
time.
It's
it's.
It
was
great
and
a
pleasure
being
here.
A
B
Thanks
jeff
cool
yeah
hope
everyone
enjoyed
that.
I
should
get
people
some
people
thinking,
there's
integrations.
We
can
think
about
dx
vote.
We
can
think
about
all
of
our
products
and
and
come
up
with
some
first
cases
for
it.
I
think
so.
Next
on
the
agenda
dave,
I
don't
know
if
you
wanted
to
give
like
a
short
overview.
B
D
C
D
You
know,
I
think,
there's
a
big
opportunity
in
between
the
overlap
of
esports
and
daos.
First
of
all,
esports
is
mostly
really
a
bunch
of
young
people
interested
in
tech
right
and
everything
is
already
digital
games
skins
and
a
lot
of
the
orgs
have
already
started.
Launching
nfts
and
all
the
large
crypto
exchanges
spawn
for
the
largest
teams,
but
I
think
there's
really
an
aspect
missing,
which
is
really
the
governance
right,
and
I
guess
essentially
esports
is
like
a
grassroots
movement.
D
So,
like
you
know
a
group
of
friends
coming
together
to
play
a
game
and
they've
kind
of
had
to
adapt
into
these
modern
legal
structures,
like
you
know,
organizations
etc,
and
just
personally
I
thought
an
idea
of
a
dow.
D
There
could
be
really
cool
and
we
kind
of
identified
a
couple
of
orbs
which
are
opened
about
the
idea-
and
I
think,
generally,
it's
quite
difficult
to
find
an
established
esports
organization
that
is
open
to
the
idea
of
like
fan
ownership
and
allowing
fans
to
be
part
of
the
governance,
let
alone
doing
this
as
a
dow
right
and
we've
kind
of
identified,
an
org
in
denmark,
so
copenhagen
flames.
D
So
I
checked
with
them:
they're
also
fine,
with
this
discussion
being
public
and
the
amounts
public
and,
after
speaking,
to
them
to
a
bit
like
an
opportunity,
arose
about
a
potential
sponsorship
deal
so
where
we
would
do
a
jersey
sponsorship
with
them
which
is
kind
of
for
us.
I
would
see
this,
as
you
know,
getting
our
toes
wet
in
the
water
in
the
like
esports
world,
which
would
be
a
hundred
thousand
k
us
dollars
for
a
one-year
sponsorship.
D
We
could
also
print
something
else
on
the
jersey,
but
I
I
guess
the
style
makes
the
most
sense
to
also
raise
general
awareness
and
on
top
of
that,
copenhagen,
flames
would
actually
go
and
create
educational
content
about
dallas,
for,
like
esports
fans,
given
that
they're,
probably
not
too,
into
like
the
latest
and
greatest
and
decentralized
governance,
so
they'd
make
like
videos
etc,
and
they
actually
just
recently
released
the
documentary
so
if
anyone's
interested
in
their
content,
making
ability
etc.
D
D
Alongside
red
bull,
which
is
one
of
their
other
sponsors
and
as
well
a
cool
opportunity,
you
know
if
we
decide
to
go
for
this,
you
know
kind
of
building
this
infrastructure
for
esports
and
taos,
which
is
kind
of
more
the
long-term
play
right,
but
being
able
to
develop
this
in
a
partnership
with
an
established
org
that
is
very
open
to
these
ideas
and
could
be
a
good
path
in
my
opinion,
and
it
would
also
all
be
cool,
of
course,
to
give
out
jerseys
as
as
much
at
conferences
et
cetera.
D
D
If
people
generally
agree
that
esports
endows
is
a
thing
that
makes
sense
right,
I
guess
you
know.
If
you
look
at
the
very
long
term
vision,
they
could
even
raise
funds
etc
through
the
dow
instead
of
selling
to
a
traditional
organization
how
it
works
today,
right,
I
think,
even
just
a
sponsorship
would
be
a
good
way
to
like
cement
ourselves
as
a
first
mover
in
the
in
the
segment
and
show
that
you
know
we're
committed
to
it
and
interested
and
that's
pretty
much
it
yeah.
So
we
have
this
opportunity.
B
Cool
thanks
for
the
re
over
like
overview
dave.
So
in
my
opinion
this
is
like
a
it's
an
idea.
That's
like
a
little
bit
out
there.
You
know
you
could
try
to
bring
those
to
this
community
and
it
could
fail.
It
might
be
too
early.
B
Dx
vote
is
getting
to
the
point
where
a
community
like
that,
you
know
maybe
running
on
gnosis
chain
or
whatever
could
could
potentially
use
it.
There'd
be
a
lot
of
education
there,
but
it
seems
like
an
interesting
initiative.
B
You
know
it's
not
like
core
core
to
like
the
d5
products
that
dxdow's
been
building,
but
it
is,
it
would
get
attention.
It
is
an
interesting
like
big
picture
idea,
and
it
really,
I
think,
gets
the
focus
on
dx
dow,
focusing
on
dow,
like
rather
than
d5,
and
that's
something
that
I
think
dx
dao
has
already
started
to
do
is
less
defy
more
dow.
I
mean.
B
Obviously
we
do
both,
but
this
really
like
makes
a
statement
that,
like
we're
gonna
try
over
the
next
year
really
hard
to
bring
like
some
dao
infrastructure
to
the
esports
community,
which
is
a
pretty
cool
theme.
I
think
so,
but
absolutely.
D
And
just
to
be
clear,
like
the
the
sponsorship,
I
mean
it's,
a
traditional
sponsorship
deal
right.
So
the
main
thing
is
the
logo
on
the
jersey
and
then
they
would
provide
some
you
know
of
their
expertise
and
producing
some
educational
content,
but
they
are
also
open
and
totally
willing
to
launch
a
guild
or
a
dow
or
something
like
this.
But
it's
not
something
we
would
do
right
on
the
day
where
we,
you
know,
do
the
sponsorship
et
cetera.
D
A
Of
course,
we
we
have
to
have
all
of
these
fans
use
on-ramps
if
they
are
not
already
web
3
users,
if
they
don't
have
decentralized
wallets,
they
they
would
need
to.
A
You
know,
use
onramps
to
put
funds
into
wallet.
Addresses
then
send
those
to
the
camera.
Carat
needs
to
be
modified
to
enable
you
know,
deposit
from
multiple
addresses,
multiple
assets
in
in
to
be
collateralized
in
the
same
campaign
nfts.
So
it
it
is.
D
Definitely
I
I
personally
think
it's
a
bit
premature
to
like
discuss
specific
technicalities,
but
I
would
say
that
if
we
decide
to
do
something
like
this,
you
know
I
think
knows.
This
chain
makes
the
most
sense,
and
I
think
you
know
the
most
practical
way
would
just
to
have
a
faucet
for
people
who
are
interested
in
this.
The
ex
now
can
give
them
10
cent,
which
is
enough
to
you
know,
do
a
million
votes
on
on
dx
style.
D
You
know,
so
I
don't
think
on-ramping
is
a
big
issue,
and
just
another
thing,
I'd
like
to
add
is
that
copenhagen
flames
actually
also
organizes
their
own
tournaments.
So
I
can
also
share
some
links.
They
actually
organize
one
of
the
third
largest
tournaments
of
fortnite
etc.
D
So
they
also
have
the
production
capability
to
actually
set
up
an
event,
and
if
we
want
to
do
something
with
carrot
with
them,
I'm
sure
they'd
be
really
happy
to
do
anything
along
that.
They
also
have
a
large
academy
team
and
like
young
people
who
they
like
organize
small
tournaments
with
in
denmark
who
you
know,
are
really
happy
about.
Even
winning
a
hundred
dollars
or
two
hundred
dollars,
you
know,
so
I
think
that
could
eventually
be
a
lot
to
do
with
carrot
as
well,
but
yeah.
A
Yeah,
actually
thinking
out
loud,
are
you
saying
this?
I
just
realized
we
ourselves,
instead
of
giving
them
the
funds
directly
to
market
ourselves
on
the
t-shirts,
we
should
do
that
as
well.
Imagine
them
wearing
t-shirts
with
carrots
on
them
and
people
wondering
what
is
that
carrot
like
it?
It's
totally
like
out
of
the
blue.
A
How
dx
dao
is
collaborating
with
the
meat
space
and
it
would
be
a
great
brand
proposition
for
for
us
in
web
3..
So
and
this
we
could
do
already
today,
we
it
it's
only
two
parties,
interacting
dx
style,
putting
collateral
minting
carrots,
giving
them
to
the
team,
and
if
the
team
wins,
we
could
make
it
not
not
just
first
place.
We
could
say
if
they're
in
the
top
three,
they
can
redeem
the
carrots
and
we
can
do
it
today.
D
Definitely
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
interesting
opportunities
in
esports.
Well,
I
think
this
copenhagen
flames-
one
is
a
concrete
one.
Now
we'll
probably
have
to
make
a
decision
on,
but
I
agree
that
there
are
a
lot
more
opportunities
and
stuff
we
can
do
and.
D
If
that's,
how
sponsorships
generally
work
with
teams,
you
know
because
you
do
get
the
exposure,
but
I
think
it's
something
we
could
explore
and
maybe
even
lower
tier
teams
who
don't
have
access
to
sponsorship
could
get
some
funds
like
that
through
carrot.
But
yeah.
I
also
don't
want
to
you
know,
move
again
the
whole
discussion
to
this
for
another
half
an
hour,
so
I'll
mute
myself.
B
Sweet
yeah,
I
think
that,
but
the
carrot
ideas,
whether
it's,
whether
it's
for
farming,
whether
it's
for
incentivizing
this
team,
whether
it's
for
the
atlantis
world
example
of
an
extra
features
and
stuff
carrot,
works
most
effectively
and
and
probably
safest,
when
it's
like
a
bonus
structure
not
like
the
whole
sponsorship's
dependent
on
that
carrot,
right,
which
is
then
super
risky
for
the
people
that
are
taking
the
risk.
But
as
a
bonus,
it's
it's
always
attractive
to
layer
on
top.
B
So
we
can
maybe
do
that
yeah.
You
think
we
need
to
like
to
move
this
forward.
We
should
really
yeah
get
a
proposal
going
or
a
forum
post
and
then
maybe
do
like
a
dxd
snapshot
and
a
signal
vote
to
like
really
gauge,
and
I
think
we
could
move
fast
on
this
to
set
it
up
for
2022,
which
is
a
would
be
a
good
period
period
to
focus
on
for
this.
D
B
D
B
Awesome:
let's
do
it
all
right,
so
we're
whining
near
the
end
here,
most
important
stuff,
yeah
there's.
No!
This
proposal
to
nosis
dao
we've
gotten
a
little
bit
of
support.
Obviously
it
doesn't
make
sense
for
just
dx
dao
contributors
to
like
support
it.
So
it's
good
to
have
other
community
people,
maybe
asking
anyone.
That's
in
the
greater
dxd
holder
community
to
support
it,
not
sure
how
these
things
go.
Like
you
know,
the
gnosis
team
is
looking
at
the
proposals.
B
We
don't
know
how
many
o
holders
are
actually
looking
at
proposals,
so
we'll
try
to
get
that
to
an
actual,
I
believe,
snapshot
through
gnosis
dao
before
like
yeah.
Maybe
this
week
sometime
I
mean
it
is
the
holiday,
but
we
can.
B
We
can
still
propose
it
and
then
yeah
the
live
proposals,
there's
the
denver
sponsorships
which
are
on
main
net
and
xdi
for
signal.
One
unique
thing
about
this
is,
and
this.
B
You
guys
get
some
weird
noise
going
thanks
for
muting
that
thanks
originally,
we
wanted
to
you
know,
since
we
can't
dxtile
can't
sign
contracts
like
the
way
you
actually
do.
An
agreement
like
from
what
we've
seen
in
the
past
so
far
is
like
a
project
makes
a
proposal
to
dxdao
and
if
someone
from
that
project
now
is
it
the
project
or
one
person
from
that
project?
Like
you
never
really
know
like?
B
In
this
scenario
you
know:
there's
low
bandwidth,
there's
like
a
contract
that
was
floating
around
dx
can't
sign
physical
contracts.
So
we
are
basically
doing
this
proposal
to
make
this
payment
as
this
to
support
this
sponsorship.
But
I
would
argue
that
it's
you
know
us
initiating.
The
proposal
is
not
then
like
an
agreement
between
two
parties.
B
It's
le
it's
more
of
a
show
of
support
and
a
payment
for
an
assumed
agreement,
but
and
with
little
like
with
yeah,
and
if
you
don't
trust
that
counterparty,
then
you,
you
could
run
into
some
troubles
in
the
real
world,
but
that's
something
that
dxdow
is
facing
in
general.
So
it
will
be
yeah
we're
trying
it
this
way.
We've
done
that
before
we've
paid
sponsorships
from
like
the
dx
voice,
multisig
and
stuff,
but
at
least
this
one
is
on
chain
this
one's
on
mainnet.
B
And
it's
like
you
know,
public
for
the
for
the
world
and
the
rep
community
to
see
so
and
then
we
need
to
yeah.
There's
some
discussion,
we're
we're
getting
closer
and
we
need
to
kind
of
figure
out
if
we
want
to
do
an
event
or
there's
been
some
talk
on
some
swag
for
eat,
denver
time,
which
is
cool
like
some
little
cups,
climbing
climbing
cups
or
whatever
some
hats.
B
And
then
we
we
really
need
to
figure
out
if
we
want
to
do
an
event
and
if
we
do
that
event
outside
inside
eat
denver
not
sure
what
the
inside
options
definitely
are.
Or
this
something
simple
like
supplying
a
beer
or
a
sponsoring
like
some
some
thing,
that's
part
of
the
already
like
scheduled
events
that
are
happening
in
them
like
they
have
happy
hours
each
day
and,
like
I'm
sure
that
dx
dao
could
provide
a
certain
drink
or
a
certain
beer
or
something
to
that
community,
just
to
get
the
style's
name
out.
B
But
if
we
wanted
to
do
it
outside
of
eat
denver,
we
need
to
pick
a
time
and
place
and
then
invite
people
and
things
like
that,
but
that's
kind
of
an
open
discussion
going
on
and
then
the
last
interesting
thing
which
nathan
we
added
to
the
agenda
last
minute-
and
this
is
just
something
I
guess
I
can
mention-
I
get
people
can
start
thinking
about-
is
x,
die.
You
know,
poly
poly,
polygon,
already
kind
of
says.
B
As
proof
of
work
chains,
which
this
could
change
soon,
but
one
idea
is
to
really
lean
into
this
green
initiative
and
try
to
leverage
something
like
carrot
to
to
like
achieve
it,
even
more
so
take
it
from
carbon
neutral
into
carbon
negative
as
a
like
overall
chain
and
as
we
stay
and
become
a
deeper
part
of
gnosis
chain
and
and
lean
into
it.
B
Yeah
incorporating
an
idea
use
leveraging
carrot
to
like
spur
that
initiative
could
be
a
cool
idea.
So
the
open
things
were
like
what
what
would
be
the
condition
or
the
goal
of
the
green
initiative
like
what
is
the
current
goal
and
nathan's?
You
know
learn
that
like
right
now,
there
is
is
kind
of
carbon
neutral,
but
and
how
are
they
achieving
that
as
a
as
a
block
chain
and
then
whatever
that,
whatever
those
kind
of
measurements
are
like?
How
do
we?
B
How
do
we
in
like
improve
those
measurements
and
and
and
drive
it
in
an
even
more
green
direction
and
leverage
that
condition
using
carrot
and
then
maybe
getting
crowd
funding
everyone
that,
like
everyone
could
put
in
you
know
different
grant
amounts
of
their
own
tokens
or
money
from
the
different
projects
that
are
all
part
of
the
ecosystem
and
create
this
like
big
honey
pot
of
tokens
from
like
make
up
the
echo
system,
and
then
that
could
be
the
actual.
B
What's
locked
up
in
the
like
a
carrot,
collateral
contract
or
something
that
which
would
be
pretty
cool.
So
that's
an
idea
to
also
think
about.
Maybe
we
can
get
a
a
forum
post
about
that,
so
we
can
people
could
propose
different
ideas
as
well.
A
B
Totally
so
I
think
that's
pretty
comprehensive
call
today.
Obviously,
a
lot
was
taken
up
by
epns,
which
is
a
super
cool
product,
but
we
have
like
three
or
four
things
that
people
yeah.
We
should
get
more
into
the
dx
dial
community
in
public
and
and
get
people
contributing
or
proposing
different
ways
to
implement
some
of
these
ideas,
a
lot
of
it's
kind
of
idea
generation,
and
so
maybe
that's
a
good
thing.