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A
Hello
and
welcome
to
the
last
wisdom
meeting
of
2020
monday
december
28th
welcome
everyone
on
the
agenda.
We
have
new
member
introduction,
which
I
have
a
few
we'll
have
pepo
present
the
latest
particle
development,
design,
token
and
potential
collaboration
without
with
the
dig
style
matic
we'll
present
for
a
bit.
I
think
they're
here
as
well.
Yeah
parnav
are
you
here.
B
A
And
yeah
then
we'll
have.
I
want
to
have
maybe
like
an
open
discussion
of
the
future,
or
you
know
the
biz
dev
efforts
of
the
style
in
2021
collaboration,
and
I
don't
know
a
thought
about
project
incubation
so
yeah.
Maybe
we
can
start.
C
I
can
go
I'm
new
here,
I'm
venky
I've
been
a
product
manager
for
the
last
11
years,
and
I've
built
a
couple
of
products
in
the
last
three
four
years
around
the
crypto,
but
nothing
went
too
far
ahead.
I
built
a
price
action
scanner,
a
companion
app
for
bitmex
and
the
latest
one
was
forking,
uni
swap
info
and
then
trying
to
see
if
I
can
build
a
portfolio
app
and
then
yeah
bringing
my
price
action
scanner
into
this
portfolio
app.
C
So
this
is
something
that
I've
been
building
and
then
I
saw
dx
dal
and
then
working
with
swapper
and
other
products,
and
then
I
thought
that
maybe
it
was
beneficial
if
I
also
join
and
see
if
I
can
contribute
towards
dx
style,
the
last
one
it's
been
one
week
since
I've
been
involved,
and
I
think
I'm
testing
the
swapper
releases
and
yeah
I've
been
troubling
a
lot
of
time
from
z
and
geronimo,
trying
to
understand
the
different
products.
E
F
Him
before
or
known
as
vp,
like
you
know,
vp
market
vp,
marketing
and
growth
automatic,
so
yeah,
okay,.
G
Guys,
hey
great
way
to
get
connected
to
the
community
at
dxnow.
Of
course,
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
had
a
chance
to
like
look
into
their
two
solutions,
leader
to
scaling
in
general,
but
you
know
here
at
matic,
we've
seen
like
a
phenomenal
amount
of
growth
ever
since
our
main
net
went
live
about
four
months
back,
like
we've,
seen
like
four
million
plus
transactions
and
160
000
watts,
and
things
like
that
and
lots
of
major.
G
You
know
the
apps
on
the
gaming
side,
nft
side
on
the
d5
side,
so
moving
to
matic
and
and
we've
also
looked,
you
know
from
our
side
been
on
the
lookout
for
like
interesting
projects
teams.
G
You
know
dolls
who
are
like
sort
of
you
know
who
discuss
these
things,
and
you
know
trying
to
see
you
know
if
we
can
contribute.
If
there's
something
you
know
something
some
some
interesting
way
in
which
you
know
we
can
help
the
community
or
the
ethiopian
people.
That's
just
kind
of
like
been
our
agenda
and
and
and
yeah.
So
that's
when
we
sort
of
found
out
about
the
exile,
you
know
you
guys,
for
your
website.
Looked
at
your
products,
we're,
like
you,
know,
hey
we
should.
We
should
talk
to
these
guys.
A
G
A
You
yeah
enough:
do
you
want
to
introduce
yourself
now
or
later.
F
Yeah
sure
so
I
am
pranav.
I
lead
some
of
the
poc
pov
solution
engineering.
You
know
initiatives
at
matic
and
yeah,
that's
pretty
much
it.
I've
been
talking
to
a
lot
of
applications,
styles
and
yeah.
It's
been
a
pretty
cool
journey
since
then,.
A
Nice
welcome
to
the
dig
style
guys,
so
I
think
we
can
continue
on
with
peppa
you're
here
peppa
yeah
hi.
D
H
Yeah,
we
will
do
because
you
are
seeing
it
so,
just
as
as
an
introduction.
This
is.
The
idea
of
this
presentation
is
to
introduce
javascript
protocol
to
the
business
development
community
with
overlaps
a
little
bit
with
the
development
community
of
the
excel.
That's,
but
because
of
this
I
will
go
through
some
initial
stuff
that
some
of
you
might
might
already
know
yeah,
and
the
idea
is
to
introduce
the
project
and
explain
what
it
is
about.
So
there
is
this
page
which
I
will
share
with
you
later.
You
can
go
over
it.
H
First,
a
little
bit
about
about
the
unscored
protocol,
what
it
is
about
about
and
within
it
about
myself.
I've
been
I'm
a
full
stack.
H
I'm
web3
developer
and
I've
been
working
for
two
years
on
the
underscore
protocol,
which
is
itself
a
pivot
of
a
previous
previous
startup,
which
was
related
to
those
it
was
about
open
and
distributed
collaboration,
and
it's
the
result
of
a
few
iterations
towards
the
distributed,
like
coordination
that
drives
us
towards
content
management
and
not
so
much
around
tokens
and
voting,
which
was
the
original
focus
for
us,
and
so,
as
part
of
this
work,
we
focused
on
content
management
and
we
started
working
on
how
to
bring
the
concept
of
git
into
content
management
so
that
people
can
have
different
perspectives
over
content,
and
this
is
the
basic
idea
behind
the
underscore
protocol.
H
The
the
onscreen
protocol
is
technology
that
lets
applications
work
with
content
that
can
be
forked
on
other
applications
and
it
is
compatible
with
web2
and
web
3
technologies
and
for
the
web
3
technologies.
One
of
these
is
ethereum.
You
can
have
content
that
is
owned
and
governed
by
a
dao
and
by
content.
I'm
talking
as
about.
H
I
am
talking
about
something
like
this
notion:
space
text,
images
and
that
kind
of
thing
we
are
now
focused
on
working
on
our
own
front-end
application.
It
will
keep
it
separate
from
the
protocol.
That's
called
inter-creativity,
it's
like
a
notion
like
application,
and,
yes,
I
won't
go
into
further
technical
details.
H
I
did
want
to
mention
about
the
team,
because
this
is
very
important.
I,
like
six
months
ago,
it
was
mostly
myself
and
and
one
developer
that
was
helping
me
and
in
this
six
months
and
things
also
through
the
support
of
of
the
dx
style,
I
was
able
to
attract
a
little
bit
more
more
talent
and
right
now,
I've
we
are
at
a
team.
This.
These
weeks
we
were
able
to
set
up
a
team
for
the
next
year
of
four
full
stack
developers,
I
think,
are
very
talented.
H
H
Yeah,
it's
great
and
it's.
What
is
interesting
is
that
this,
these
new
members
of
the
team,
they
approach
the
project
because
they
they
like
the
vision
they
feel
aligned
with
it
and
they
are
mixing
like
a
retribution
with
an
investment.
H
H
H
I
have
listed
here
some
like
in
increasing
level
of
complexity.
What
are
the
kind
of
use
cases
that
that
can
be
used
for
one
is
to
keep
and
evolve
important
content.
We
are
talking
about
the
manifest
the
landing
page,
and
this
has
been
the
focus
so
far,
the
next
step.
H
This
is
a
proposal,
but
the
next
step
that
makes
sense,
I
think,
could
be
public
facing
content
like,
for
instance,
a
blog
of
a
gtx
style,
or
even
the
twitter
account
of
the
excel
using
twitter
as
a
mirroring
of
something
that
is
unchained
and
validated
by
the
dao,
and
then
once
this
is
stable,
we
can.
It
could
be
possible
to
consider
this
technology
also
for
internal
coordination.
Let's
say
each
project
has
their
own
space
and
keep
like
milestones
and
goals
there.
H
Even
the
status
of
the
project.
I
will
go
over
this
again
in
in
another
section,
so
just
like
in
general,
what
can
be
achieved
in
general.
I
will
be
more
specific
about
our
plans
for
further
next
year
shortly.
H
Another
complication
would
be
to
modify
the
content
management
application
to
handle
new
types
of
content
that
are
specifically
built
for
the
needs
of
the
excel.
This
have
been
mentioned
before
you
could
think
of
a
budgeting
application
to
to
compare
different
badges
and
make
proposal
changes
to
a
given
budget
like
forward
thinking,
expenditure
and
income
plan
and
and
in
the
long
term.
H
This
is
very
long
term,
maybe
next
year,
like
2022
next
next
year
and
start
thinking
about
if
the
oscar
product
could
start
covering
all
their
applications
that
are
already
being
used
like
web
2
applications
like
the
photo
or
stuff
like
that,
so
that
everything
is
compatible
with
each
other.
It's
this
really
long
term.
H
So
this
is
the
stuff
that
could
be
done
if
that
can
govern
content
and
chain,
starting
from
simple
to
complex,
and
this
is
the
stuff
that
we
made
last
year,
thanks
to
the
to
in
part,
by
to
the
help
we
received
from
the
excel,
we
received
a
total
of
7.5
k,
use
dollars
in
ith
and,
as
a
result,
we
were
able
to
experiment
and
deploy
a
prototype
of
an
rbdb
service
provider
for
foreign
protocol,
so
that
content
doesn't
live
on
a
web
server.
H
It
lives
on
a
decentralized
network
and
so
that
the
data
of
our
content
exclusively
depending
on
decentralized
technologies,
and
we
we
have
the
proof
of
concept.
This
is
like
a
screenshot
of
it.
You
it's
integrated
inside
of
alchemy,
but
this
still
needs
some
work
to
be
to
to
work
at
a
larger
scale.
H
H
It
really
use
it
to
host
important
content
like
the
manifesto
content
from
the
landing
page,
eventually,
the
the
retribution,
the
work
worker
compensation
guidelines,
and
that
would
be
the
first
two
months
of
the
year
most
and
the
next
step
will
be
to
work
on
the
like
finishing
the
rptv
infrastructure,
making
sure
it's
scaled
so
that
we
can
offer
this
service
of
dog
over
and
content
to
other
dials
from
the
dow
stack
ecosystem.
Not
only
dxtop.
H
The
next
step
that
could
be
possible
would
be
then
to
work
on
the
read-friendly
version
of
the
content.
So
you
see
that
the
week
is
like
a
content
management
system,
and
then
there
is
a
front
end
like
the
application
that
represents
the
data
of
blogging,
the
blog,
that
is,
where
other
people
go
and
read,
content
released
by
the
dao
and
that
that
would
be
the
third
step
on
this.
H
First,
like
this
first
part
of
the
year,
maybe
by
mid
mid
year,
we
should
be
able
to
reach
this
lab
this
stage
and
then
the
second
part
of
the
year.
We
would
try
to
make
to
you
to
make
the
dao
internally
use
the
underscore
protocol
to
coordinate
and
one
step
there
would
be
to
connect
it
to
erc20
guilds,
which,
I
think
is
the
understand,
is
the
plan
in
terms
of
internal
organization
of
the
dow
so
that
each
each
erc20
guild
owns
and
governs
is
its
own
portion
of
the
wiki.
H
They
use
this
as
a
way
of
communicating
among
them
and,
finally,
we,
as
the
process
evolves.
We
can
identify
if
the
if
the
wiki
can
be
improved
and
what
can
be
added
to
feel
the
specific
needs
of
the
dao.
I'm
really
interested
in
budgeting,
because
that's
what
I've
seen
in
many
doubts
like
they,
they
really
will.
The
conversation
really
evolves
into
discussing
about
budgets
really
fast,
so
budgeting
could
be
one
of
the
things
that
we
could
work
at
and
try
to
to
include
that
as
part
of
this
year
work.
H
So
this
is
like
the
plan,
and
this
is
an
example
of
for
of
how
the
dow
the
wiki
can
be
used
to
fit
the
content
of
this.
In
this
case,
a
news
outlet
that
yeah
that
represents
the
blog
of
the
of
the
dao.
H
Then
I
will
be
whole.
I
will
go
relatively
fast
over
the
last
elements,
just
to
include
too
much
of
the
of
your
time.
Yeah.
We
have
an
internal
agenda
too.
We
are
working
on
on
for
us,
this
means
tao
governing
content,
but
we
also
want
to
have
individually
governed
content,
and
so
we
are
working
on
an
application
where
users
can
hold
underscore
protocol
content
on
their
own
private
spaces,
and
this
will
be
available
also
for
dao
members,
so
you
can
take
content
from
the
wiki
and
organize
it
on
your
own
space.
H
Also,
the
environment
is
also
advancing
in
terms
of
the
infrastructure,
and
this
is
the
other
stuff
we
are
focused
in.
So
besides
ethereum
development
is
this
application
for
personal
content
management
and
in
terms
of
business
model,
our
plan
is
to
to
include
fees
on
the
update
of
content
unchained.
This
is
ready
and
implemented.
H
H
Another
option
which
we
have
a
prototype,
but
but
is
interesting
to
consider.
Is
the
nft
consider
context
content
as
an
nft,
so
a
blogger
can
sell
collectibles
his
content
as
a
collectible.
H
Sorry
about
that
notification,
and
eventually
we
could
also
consider
licensing.
We
are
a
registered
company,
we
own
the
intellectual
properties.
This
part
is
owned
by
a
company
and
we
should
could
be
selling
licensing
license
of
a
professional
front-end
modules,
so
other
applications
can
reuse
our
technology
and
then
this.
This
is
where
the
unscrewed
protocol
token
enters.
The
underscore
protocol
is
is
a
token
that
is
used
to
pay
for
any
of
the
services
mentioned
above.
H
It
is
a
it's
a
near
c20
and
transferable
token.
It
is
just
linked
to
the
to
the
die,
so
you
you
can
always
have
one
ups
upr
token.
If
you
put
one
die
on
the
bonding
curve,
it's
a
one-way
bonding
curve,
but
we
have
printed
20
million
upr
tokens
that
we
are
that
the
bonding
curve
offers
us
at
a
discount
to
make
the
use
of
the
protocol
cheaper
by
early
adopters.
H
H
The
excel
could
buy
these
tokens
and
use
them
to
to
over
in
their
own
content
on
chain
at
the
discount,
and
the
funds
would
be
used
on
the
treasury
because
we
are
also
about
the
font
would
go
to
the
treasury
of
our
dial
and
we
will
use
it
to
develop
the
technology
just.
Finally,
the
the
unesco
protocol
organization
is
itself
a
dao,
but
we
also
have
a
legal
entity,
a
register
on
vermont.
This
was
registered
last
month.
H
So
that
was
very
fast.
The
last
point
is
well
how
how
this
style
can
help.
I
think
I
would
I
mean
with
the
team
that
we
have
now
and
the
division
that
the
experience
we
had
this
year.
The
idea
would
be
to
make
like
a
scale
up
the
effort
so
that
we
can
achieve
more
and
work
more
under
a
more
stable
environment.
H
So
I'm
making
a
12
month
plan-
and
I
am
asking
for
to
the
dx
style
for
a
total
of
100k-
die
to
be
split
it
during
the
whole
year
to
to
keep
this
work
as
part
of
our
priority
and
make
sure
we
deliver
on
it,
and
the
deliveries
will
would
be
those
listed
above
in
the
in
the
in
the
dx.21
section
above,
and
I
think
that's
it.
H
I
mentioned
about
using
a
stream
payment
as
the
way
of
of
deploying
this
fund
so
that
they
they
don't
have
to
be
deployed
at
once
clearly,
but
they
it's
not
necessary
to
run
an
unchained
decision
and
proposal
every
time
every
month,
yeah.
That's
it
the
end.
A
Thank
you
purple.
I
think
this
was
a
great
presentation
and
I
think
you
touched
on
yeah.
I
guess
on
things
that
we
are
kind
of
discussing
in
the
dxtel
right
now.
How
does
the
excel
work
with
projects
tell
us
dukes
now?
Even
you
know
what
you've
asked
is,
I
want
to
say,
sort
of
an
investment
towards
the
end,
and
this
is
something
we're
discussing
internally
on.
I
think
how
to
do
so.
A
I
think,
actually,
after
after
the
matic
presentation,
we'll
actually
speak
about
this,
but
before
we
move
on
like
I,
I
guess
people
want
to
make
some
comments.
Yeah.
I
just
had
a.
I
H
Right,
yes,
the
token
is
already
deployed
and
I
implemented
this
simple,
stepwise
bonding
curve
that
has
these
three
prices
and
I
prefer
that
compared
to
us,
a
linear,
bonding
curve
just
to
to
reduce
the
the
cognitive
effort
that
you
need
to
do
to
price
the
token.
So
you
know
you
know
at
the
end
it
will
be
one
die
one
token,
and
so
it's
just
a
bootstrapping
solution.
I
H
Yeah,
so
it's
just
it's
a
native
token,
but
it
is
like
a
credit.
It's
not.
I
mean,
there's
no
crypt
economics.
Behind
the
token.
It's
just
that
we,
our
ui,
will
require
you
to
to
pay
fees
and
all
the
tools
that
we
built
will
use
the
smart
contracts
that
that
have
these
fees
to
update
content
and
to
register
names
and
and
so
every
time
you
have
to
want
to
do
something
with
the
unscrupulon
chain
infrastructure.
H
You
have
to
buy
upr
tokens.
These
are
you
and
then
you
know
that
they
will
always
cost
one
that
one
dollar
one
die.
One
token
at
some
point,
except
for
the
initial
tokens
that
are
offered
as
a
discount
and
then,
if
you
want
to
buy
the
first
bunch
of
discount
tokens
that
will
be
100
000
us
dollars.
So
what
we
are
looking
to
raise
from
from
the
ex
now
and
the
second
batch
of
tokens
would
be
another
million,
because
there
are
10
millions,
10
cents
each.
H
B
Great
presentation
so
to
understand
that
kind
of,
like
the
token
there,
the
idea
would
be
to
use
it
to
kind
of
bootstrap
funding
at
the
beginning,
but
there
would
not
be
like
any
speculative
or
investment
upside
for
the
token
in
the
long
run,
because
it
would
be
fixed
to
a
dollar
right.
It
couldn't
go
up.
H
I
think
yeah
it's
an
equilibrium
between
the
two
you,
so
you
have
the
initial
in
incentives
in
place
and
then
in
the
long
term
you
you
cap
the
speculation.
I
Well,
is
it
if,
if
dx
dao
owned
these
tokens
at
one
cent,
when
this
thing
is
up,
live
and
being
used,
and
people
have
to
buy
a
token
for
a
dollar,
the
x
style
could
sell
tokens
at
99
cents
and
have
a
99
99
extra
turn.
Theoretically,.
H
A
Cool
cool
cool-
this
is
this
is
awesome
pepperoni.
I
think
perhaps
we'll
discuss
on
this
like
towards
the
end
of
the
call.
Anyone
have
any
other
questions
before
we
move
on.
D
I
was
just
hearing
there's
some
code
that
we
can
look
at
this
in
development
like
in
what
stage
is
this.
H
Yeah
now
we
have
been
developing
this
for
two
years
now,
so
we
work
on
the
underlying
court
libraries
last
year
and
this
year
on
the
front
end.
There
is
a
demos
page.
I
will
share
with
you
on
the
beast
dev
channel
and
I
think
that's
one
way
of
approaching
the
demo
and
I
will
also
share
our
github,
so
you
can
explore
also.
H
J
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
say
that
was
a
great
presentation
and
I
you
know,
I
think
this
is
a
the
content.
Management
space
is
a
big
thing
that
the
staff
needs
to
think
about
how
we're
in,
and
it
was
very
helpful
to
hear
your
presentation
and
because
you're
so
intimate
with
some
of
the
existing
processes
and
things
that
we're
thinking
about.
So
I
think
it
would
be
potentially
helpful
to
build
with
with
protocol
because
of
the
existing
priority.
A
Great
awesome
thanks
tripple
and
yeah.
I
guess
we'll
just
we'll
continue
discussing
this
later
and
probably
on
the
dow
talk
thread.
Maybe
you
could
immigrate
just
the
discussion
on
on
paper
on
the
alcohol
talk
thread
and
link,
maybe
to
the
video
of
this
call
yeah.
H
A
Thanks
awesome,
thank
you.
Pranav
are
you
here,
do
you
guys
want
to
go
bernard
arjun.
D
G
Awesome
so
I'll
just
quickly
just
cover
again,
you
know,
won't
take
too
much
time
just
quickly
cover
you
know,
a
few
basics
about
matic
and
layer,
two
in
general,
and
then
you
know
I
can
just
talk
about.
You
know
matic
network
a
bit
more
and
then
you
know
I
can
you
know,
can
take
any
questions
which
you
know
the
dx
dao
members
may
have
so
just
to
quickly
jump
into
it.
G
So
essentially,
matic
is
a
layer,
2
scaling
solution
built
on
top
of
ethereum,
and
the
objective
always
was
to
solve
some
of
the
problems
with
layer,
1
blockchains,
which
is
a
low
throughput,
and
you
know
what
we're
seeing
these
days
very
high
transaction
costs
and
essentially
this
whole
combination
of
very
slow
transactions
and
high
fees
essentially
creates
a
really
poor
user
experience.
So
what
that
means
is
many
business
models
or
even
when
you
talk
about
trying
to
get
you
know
people
web
two
people
into
black
three
and
and
have
them
transacting
on
blockchains.
G
You
know
it
just
sort
of
makes
that
process
very,
very
difficult,
so
essentially,
matic
network
was
designed
as
a
solution
to
that
problem.
Now,
if
you
look
at
layer,
two
scaling
in
general
right,
so
it's
it's
like
a
technical
problem
right
so
and
there
are
many
solutions
to
sort
of
solve
solving
for
scalability,
on
ethereum
and
and
what
our
solution
has
been
is
is
a
hybrid
sort
of
a
pos
plasma
side
chain.
G
So
essentially,
as
you
can
see
from
the
diagram,
what
we
have
is
we
use
plasma
framework.
So
what
that
means
is
that
all
the
transactions
and
assets
on
mac
on
matic
are
essentially
backed
up
on
ethereum.
G
So
every
like,
let's
say,
256
blocks,
will
merkle
root
all
the
transactions
and
put
like
a
checkpoint
on
the
ethereum
net,
thereby
all
your
assets
are
discoverable
on
ethereum
and
essentially
all
your
assets
are
covered
by
ethereum
grade
security
and
essentially
the
proof
of
state
is
stake,
network
sort
of
allows
us,
you
know
fast
transactions,
so
we've
got
like
a
pretty,
very
well
decentralized
sort
of
a
validator
network.
G
We've
got,
I
think,
over
75
validators,
as
of
now
possibly
more
decentralized
than
many
layer,
one
networks
as
well,
and
and
and
and
with
this
you
know
what
this
sort
of
decentralized
sort
of
group
of
ballet
datas
it
allows
us
to
do-
is
sort
of
build
a
network
which
allows
for
7200
plus
tps
at
an
average
transaction
cost
of
like
less
than
a
dollar
less
than
sorry
less
than
one
ten
thousand,
that
of
a
dollar.
G
So
essentially,
a
transaction
on
on
matic
on
average
is
like
one
ten
thousand
the
cost
of
ethereum,
so
essentially
by
creating
like
a
chain
which
which
allows
you,
which
is
100
evm
compatible,
so
anything
which
works
on
ethereum
works
on
matic.
By
creating
you
know,
a
sort
of
infrastructure
which
allows
for
very
high
throughput
two
second
block
time.
So
essentially
finality
is
in
two
seconds
and
again
the
cost
of
transactions
is
so
low
that
you
know
you
can
essentially
now
build
the
apps
and
focus
on
user
experience.
G
So
you
can
build
things
like
social
networks.
You
know
things
like
prediction:
markets,
things
like
gaming,
et
cetera,
whatever
is
very
transaction.
Heavy
is
something
which
which
which
scales
really
really
well
on
matic
and
and
what
this,
what
this
is
meant
is
essentially
you
know,
we've
got,
you
know
we're
doing
a
huge
number
of
transactions
on
a
daily
basis.
We've
got
160
000,
plus
unique,
wallets
4
million
transactions
since
launch
50,
plus
the
apps
have
deployed
already.
You
know
pretty
much.
G
Every
major
gaming
nft
d5
platform
is
building
on
matic,
and
you
know
our
network
just
keeps
growing
again
just
to
cover
some
of
the
stuff
on
the
d5
side
and
just
just
some
of
the
examples.
So
we've
had
like
a
lot
of
dexes
a
lot
of
solutions
like
easy
five,
which
is
something
like
a
compound
fork,
scaling
really
well
on
matic
easy.
G
If
I
got
listed
on
bonance
as
well
same
with
auto
pocket,
you
know,
a
quick
swap
is
is
like
a
unisoft
v2
clone
on
matic
we've
got
mahada
plot,
x,
jelly
swap
and
and
a
whole
bunch
of
different
sort
of
d5
applications
deploying
automatic.
G
Also
stable
coins
are
native
automatic,
so
you
can
use
you
know
matic
tokens,
but
you
can
also
sort
of
free
it
on
ramp,
usdd,
die
or
usdc
on
matic
and,
and
you
can
directly
free
it
on
wrap
using
a
transact
and
ramp.com
will
also
be
live
very
soon
and
and
you
can
use
these
stable
coins
in
your
applications
and
again
you
know,
like
I
said
anything
which
is
transaction
heavy.
So
on
the
gaming
and
nft
side,
every
major
game
out
there
is
either
deployed
on
matic
or
deployment
games.
G
Like
neon
district
zed
run
decentraland
decentral
games,
somnium
space
mega
cryptopolis,
you
know,
block
lords
like
sport
x
again
is
on
sports
betting.
You
know,
ethernet,
like
every
major
like
game
you
can
think
of
including
esports
like
intergalactic
gaming
is,
is
on
matic.
Also
like
very
interesting
games.
We
should
come
through
our
own
accelerator,
like
flower
patch
scale,
really
quickly,
poly
market
again,
marble
guards
did
10
000
nfts
in,
like
literally
the
first
half
an
hour
of
its
existence,
terra
virtua.
G
So
so
again
you
know,
and
of
course
you
know
pretty
diverse
ecosystem
with
you
know.
Social
networks,
like
sapien,
deploying
normatic,
ticketing,
solutions,
epns,
you
know,
ethereum
push,
notifications,
deploying
automatic
and
possibly
another
couple
of
months.
Creole
does
carbon
credits
trading
through
you
know,
by
deploying
carbon
credits
on
mat
on
on
the
matic
sidechain
as
tokens
and
then
sort
of
you
know
trade,
those
across
organizations
and
of
course
you
know,
countless
other
applications.
G
You
know
even
on
the
enterprise
side,
you
know
sort
of
moving
sort
of
building
on
manic
and
again
just
to
quickly
cover
some
of
the
other.
You
know
salient
points
about
about.
Matic
is
that
we
are
essentially
a
shadow
of
ethereum
like
like
you've
seen
all
transactions
on
and
on
matic
are
are
sort
of
are
checkpointed
on
ethereum
and
at
the
same
time
we
are
ebm
compatible,
so
anything
which
works
on
ethereum
works
on
matic.
So
that
would
mean
all
your
developer
tools
as
well.
G
So
essentially,
if
you're
a
ethereum
developer,
you
kind
of
automatically
a
magic
developer,
you
would
have
to
just
change
your
rpc
url
and
possibly
a
few
lines
of
code
to
get.
You
know
any
ethereum
contract
working
on
matic.
Again,
you
know
if
you
use
a
d
app
getting
your
you
know,
tokens
mapped
function,
setup,
it's
it's!
G
It's
really
easy
and,
like
I
said,
all
you
need
to
do
is
just
change
the
vector,
url
again
easy
to
move
assets,
so
we
have
full
layer
to
layer,
one
sort
of
compatibility,
so
you
can
freely
move
assets
from
ethereum
to
matic
or
matic
to
ethereum
in
less
than
30
minutes,
and
all
your
dev
tooling,
which
is
there
on
ethereum,
works,
seamlessly
on
matics.
All
your
popular
wallets,
your
oracles,
the
even
the
newer
ones
like
api,
three
and
and
sort
of
dr
data
etc.
G
All
of
them
are
also
integrated,
dramatic
or
meta
transactions.
So,
for
example,
using
bi
economy,
your
gas
station
network,
you
know,
works
out
of
the
box.
So
anything
again,
you
know
if,
if
you,
if
you've
done
deployment
on
you're
on
ethereum,
then
deploying
our
mavic
is
super
easy
and
again
you
know:
we've
got
very
complex,
you
know
comprehensive
documentation.
G
So
if
you
have
any
questions
more
or
less,
you
know,
we've
got
lots
of
examples.
We've
covered
as
well
and
again
you
know
with
respect
to
partner
campaigns.
You
know
we
do
we
so
at
matic
we
provide
like
100
sort
of
marketing.
You
know
sort
of
marketing
support
to
any
app
which
is
deploying
on
medics.
G
So,
for
example,
if
you,
if
you're
a
d
app
and
you're
on
the
matic
main
net,
you
know
any
announcements
you
want
to
do
anything
you
want
to
do
with
respect
to
pr
you
can
you
know
you
want
to
connect
with
influencers.
You
know
things
like
that.
Anything
you
want
to
do.
You
know
our
marketing
team
will
help
you
make
those
announcements.
G
We'll
sort
of
you
know,
share
those
announcements
across
our
entire
community
as
well.
60
000,
strong
twitter
channel
our
discord
channel,
our
telegram
channel
read
it
like
wherever
we
present
we'll.
You
know,
share
your
announcements,
help
you
get
support
for
grants,
things
like
that.
Also,
we've
got
several
developer
support
programs
so,
for
example,
there's
our
accelerator
build
and
own
program
which
we're
doing
along
with
bitcoin
we're
putting
together.
You
know
a
lot
of
other
programs
for
d5
as
well
for
bug
bounties
things
like
that.
G
So
again,
you
know.
If
you
have,
if
you
are
developing,
you
know
anything
on
matic
and
if
you
have
any
specific
sort
of
requirements
with
you
know,
with
respect
to
connecting
two
teams
in
the
ecosystem
or
any
any
any
questions
on
on
the
technology
side
or
if
you're
looking
for
any
specific
kind
of
grants.
You
know
we
can
customize
that
and
again
you
know
what
you
also
get
along
with
the
marketing
side.
Is
tech
support?
G
So
if
you
know,
if
you're
deploying
automatic,
you
know
our
technical
sort
of
solutions
team,
you
know
front
of
leads
that
team.
You
know
any
questions
you
have
before
deploying
while
deploying
after
deploying
you
know
you
can
you
can
ask
us,
and
you
know
and
we'll
be
very
responsive,
like
we
typically
set
up
just
telegram
group
with
with
you
know,
with
the
team
to
communicate
and
and
yeah,
so
that
that's
kind
of
just
quick.
You
know
brief,
you
know
about
about.
G
You
know
again,
you
know,
our
kind
of
objective
is
to
help
grow,
the
ethereum
community
to
sort
of
get
sort
of
more
and
more
sort
of
people.
From
the
you
know,
web
2
world
people
who
used
to
sort
of
an
experience
like
like,
let's
say,
using
uber
or
using
let's
say
netflix.
You
know
they
should
be
able
to
get
the
same
kind
of
performance
or
experience
on
blockchain.
G
Otherwise
you
know
the
adoption
will
simply
not
come
and
you
know
our
objective
is
to
you
know,
sort
of
build
that
bridge
so
that
lots
and
lots
of
people
from
the
web
to
world
try
their
three
apps,
either
through
gaming
or
through
d5
and
and
sort
of
get
into
get
into
blockchain,
so
yeah.
So
that's
just
a
quick
brief
about
matic.
You
know,
if
you
have
any
questions,
just
feel
free
to
ask
and
and
yeah
and
we'd
be
happy
to
take
any
questions.
G
And
again
you
know
our
just
ask
from
from
the
dx
da
would
be
that
you
know
if
you
guys
would
be
open
to
let's
say
supporting
projects.
You
know
who
are
deploying
automatic
or
some
you
know
things
like
that.
So
if
you
have
any
questions,
yeah
I'd
be,
you
know
happy
to
take
them.
B
Thanks
thanks
for
the
presentation,
one
one
big
thing:
I'm
just
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
is
kind
of
like
the
security
model
relevant
to
like
ethereum
and
l1,
and
just
like
how
to
kind
of
think
about
that.
Like
I
guess
I'm
a
little
bit
unclear
like.
I
think
I
have
a
good
idea
on
how
like
the
roll-ups
are.
You
know,
planning
to
work
in
terms
of
you
could
exit
the
chain
right
without
having
to
rely
on
the
security
of
the
the
l2?
B
Like
you,
the
user,
have
the
power
to
withdraw
absolutely
and
then
like
x.
Die
is
like
a
pos
side
chain
where
you
don't
have
that
ability
right,
you're
kind
of
like
inheriting
it's
like
a
new
security
system
and
you're,
relying
on
the
validators
next
time
to
secure
your
funds,
and
it's
not
really
like,
ultimately
up
to
you,
whether
it's
it
you're
you'll
be
able
to
withdraw.
So,
like
I'm
a
little
confused,
you
know
at
the
beginning,
you
presented
it
as
a
sort
of
like
hybrid
plasma,
pos
system.
B
So
maybe
you
could
speak
a
little
more
like
specifically
to
you
know
like
if
I'm
a
user-
and
I
put
my
funds
on
the
medic,
how
what
kind
of
you
know
guarantees
do
I
have
from
the
security
perspective.
G
Sure
perfect,
so
so
let
me
let
me
cover
that
so
so
the
security
on
on
matic
essentially
comes
from
like
two
aspects.
Right,
so
one
is
our
very
you
know
highly
decentralized
network,
so
we've
got
like
75
plus
validators.
G
You
know
spread
across
the
globe
and-
and
you
know
the
number
of
validators
is
going
to
increase.
We
probably
see
you
know
100
validators,
by
possibly
mid
of
jan
and
and
what
this
decentralized
you
know.
Highly
decentralized
network
means
that
the
assets
are
pretty
secure,
so
every
sort
of
all
transactions
have
been
signed
off
by
by
the
validators
and,
at
the
same
time,
the
other.
G
The
other
security
comes
from
sort
of
checkpointing
these
transactions
on
on
the
ethereum
mainnet
right,
so
every
like,
let's
say,
256
or
blocks,
we
would
we'll
merkle
root
the
transactions
and
then
we'll
put
a
checkpoint
on
the
ethereum
main
chain,
and
so
what
that
essentially
means
is
that
every
transaction
or
every
asset
which
is
on
on
matic,
can
be
discovered
on
ethereum.
So
all
your
assets
are
safe.
G
It's
not
truly
decentralized,
and
you
know
there
are
obviously
you
know
use
problems
there,
but
but
with
enough
decentralization
and
again,
like
I
said,
the
checkpointing
system,
which
we
have
so
we
are
sort
of
like,
like
I
said
you
know
like
ethereum,
on
top
of
ethereum
versus
like
a
true
a
side
chain
where
you
would
have
to
trust.
You
know,
sort
of
the
people
who
run
the
side
chains
with
all
your
assets,
like
with
us,
you're,
actually
trusting
ethereum.
So
that's
kind
of
what
we
wanted
with
our
infrastructure.
F
Right
also,
just
to
add
up
on
that
part
how
the
plasma
framework
works
is
that
if
you
know
you
believe
that
there
is
some
claim
that
you
know
something
has
been
going
wrong
on
the
matic
networks.
Since
every
transaction
is
merkle
rooted
and
checkpointed
to
the
ethereum
networks,
you
can
put
a
claim
on
the
ethereum
networks
itself
that
you
know
this
is
particular
thing
which
is
having
some
issues,
and
you
know
if
you
win
the
claim,
then
you
know
there
are
some
slashings
and
related
things.
F
K
So
there
is
like
an
exit
back
in
there.
So
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
how
that
works?.
F
Sure
so
let's
say
you
know
so
so
let's
say
you
know
you
you.
There
are
some
so,
first
of
all
to
do
this
exact
mechanism.
Let's
say
you
want
your
assets
to
be
ported
from
the
matic
networks
to
the
ethereum
networks.
So
how
will
that
work
is
that
you
know?
First
of
all,
you
will
burn
the
assets
on
the
matic
networks
right
and
wait
for
the
check
pointing
to
happen.
That
is,
after
every,
like
you
know,
15
minutes
the
checkpointing
happens
once
the
checkpoint
happens.
F
You
just
have
to
submit
the
proof
of
hash
on
the
ethereum
networks
right
and
once
you
have
submitted
that
it
is
approved,
and
you
know
you
are
able
to
exit.
So
that's
how
it
works.
F
G
Yeah
and
we
also
working
on
other
options
as
well,
so
we're
working
along
with
the
and
the
economy
team
on
fast
exit.
So
you
see
if
you
have
like
rich
assets,
if
you
have
liquidity,
let's
say
on
on
on
layer,
two
like
on
matic
you'll
be
able
to
like
exit
to
like
layer,
one
in
like
less
than
like
in
probably
seven
to
eight
minutes.
G
So
I
should
like
that's
kind
of
already
like
implemented
with
one
of
the
apps
on
matic.
We
like
sort
of
testing
it,
so
I
think
it
should
be
out
like
very
soon
yeah.
F
Right,
you
might,
you
guys
might
have
heard
about
poly
markets
right
with
it
a
good
amount.
Let's
say
you
know
a
10
million
sort
of
transaction
when
u.s
elections
were
going
on.
They
are,
you
know
currently
in
contact
they,
so
they
are
deployed
on
the
matic
networks
and
they
are
working
with
the
connex
team
to
do
this
particular
fast
exit
thing
like
currently
on
plasma.
It
takes
about
seven
days
for
exit
to
happen
for
pos.
It
takes
15
to
30
minutes.
For
that
happen.
F
G
Right
and
just
to
set
the
context
of
poly
market
was
like
a
prediction
market
which
launched
dramatic
two
months
ago.
They
just
recently,
I
think
last
week
crossed
40
million.
You
know
dollars
in
terms
of
the
the
predictions
result
and
and
again
you
know
these
guys
during
the
u.s
election.
G
They
you
know
their
hostile
elections
were
pretty
close,
so
things
went
pretty
crazy
on
you
know:
prediction
markets
and
and
polly
market
did
like
10
million
dollars
worth
of
usdc
in
like
a
few
hours,
and
you
know
our
network
sort
of
you
know
manage.
You
know,
handle
that
without
any
glitch.
So
I
think
that's
that's
another
thing
about
matic
that
we're
kind
of
production
ready
like
a
lot
of
l2
is
out
there.
G
Everybody
says
you
know
fast
transaction,
low
cost
and
all
of
that,
but
we've
actually
proved
it
and
we've
sort
of
been
like
you
know,
battle
tested
on.
You
know
during
some
of
those.
I
Crazy
times,
yeah,
hey
arjun,
you
you
mentioned
in
the
in
your
slides,
like
obviously
okay,
you
mentioned
poly
market,
but
then
most
of
the
other
deployers
like
the
apps
and
things
were
like
games
which
often
have
lower
value.
How
come
there
hasn't
been
like
a
major
d5
protocol
who
has
like
deployed
on
mavic
versus,
like
they
all
like
kind
of
sound,
like
they're
waiting
around
for
like
what
they
call
like.
I
Well,
the
really
the
roll
up
l2s,
which
some
people
call
like
real
l2s.
I
and
I
understand
why
you
guys
are
more
of
an
l2
than
like
x,
die
but
you're,
maybe
not
as
much
of
an
l2
as
optimism
or
something
right
you're.
You
there's
like
a
little
bit
in
between,
but
how
come
like
no
big
d5
protocol
has
deployed
in
in
like.
G
That
platform
definitely
a
great
question,
and-
and
definitely
you
know
you
already
touched
upon-
you
know
some
of
the
some
of
the
more
interesting
aspects
about
that
conversation
with,
like
you
know,
that's
optimistic
roll
up,
so
so,
essentially,
the
problem
here
is
this
right,
so
any
layer,
two
right
any
layer
to
essentially
the
strength
like
in
terms
of
how
to
just
look
at
look
at
a
you
know,
let's
say
a
network
strength
in
terms
of
the
liquidity
it
it
it
has.
G
You
know
every
every
layer,
two
or
a
proof-of-stake
network
essentially
is
slave
to
the
amount
of
liquidity
already
locked
in
there.
So,
for
example,
if
your
proof-of-stake
network
has-
let's
say-
let's
say
it
has
100
million
locked
right
and
and
100
billion
has
been
staked
by
the
validators.
Now,
if
the
liquidity
in
in
that
network,
let's
say
it
goes
to
500
million
right.
G
Then
there
is,
you
know,
incentive
for
the
validators
to
go
rogue
right,
and
this
was
like
a
huge
problem
with
l2
and
essentially
rollups
is
sort
of
a
way
of
solving
for
that
right,
exactly
so
roll
ups.
Essentially,
what
happens
is
that
the
call
data
and
the
verification
essentially
happens
on
layer
one
so
while
the
transaction,
so
the
data
layer
can
be
layered,
can
be
layer
two,
but
the
verification
has
to
happen
along
with
the
call
data
which
has
to
be
sent
to
layer,
one
and,
and
that
is
essentially
how
optimistic
roll-up
works.
G
So
if,
if
on
layer
two,
you
can
have
a
billion
dollars
worth
of
liquidity,
but
as
long
as
you
can
verify,
and-
and
you
have
the
call
data
on
layer
one
then
you
know,
then
the
network
will
not
break
and
and
and
this-
and
this
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
no
very
like,
let's
say
like,
like
you
know,
any
sort
of
major
d5
application,
which
has
let's
say
a
billion
dollars
worth
of
liquidity,
has
moved
to
any
layer,
2
network.
Now
here
there
was
there.
There
are
some
solutions
out
there.
G
So
optimism
sort
of
came
out.
You
know
which
metallic
tweeted
about,
and
you
know,
sort
of
so
that
that
sort
of
had
people
thinking
about
okay.
You
know
this
is
another
interesting
way
of
solving
it.
So
we've
created
a
roadmap
for
ourselves
as
well.
So
we
looked
at
all
these
different
optimistic
roll
up
solutions
out
there
and
we
liked
arbitrary
solution
the
best.
G
So
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
is
we're
going
to
be
deploying
our
bedrooms
optimistic
roll-up
solution
on
matic.
This
will
be
done
by
february
of
coming
of
the
coming
year.
So
it's
a
lot
of
things
are
pending
right
now
on
the
arbitrage
team
side,
you
know
obviously
it's
holiday
season,
so
they're
not
not
fully
available,
but
by
february
we
should
have
that
sorted.
We
are
also
working
on
zk
roll
ups
along
with
starkware,
so
we
like
their
zk
stock
implementation.
G
Again,
stockwear
is
still
in
the
process
of
building
out
their
final
solution.
So
this
is
something
we
see
possibly
happening
in
the
next,
let's
say
four
to
six
months
objective.
Ultimately,
you
know
to
answer
your
question
is
to
set
up
like
an
infrastructure
which
allows
the
developer
to
essentially
choose
any
tools.
They
want
to
develop
their
app.
So
if
you're
building
something
let's
say
on
the
d5
side,
where
the
security
of
assets
is
extremely
important,
then
you
can
use
optimistic
roll-ups
like
if
you
want
to
do
maybe
something
more
payment
side.
G
You
can
do
ck
roll-ups.
If
you
want
to
just
say
just
to
gaming
or
nfts,
you
can
use
the
plasma
pos
chain.
So
essentially
what
our
infrastructure
will
look
like
is
the
pos
chain
will
provide
the
data
layer
and,
as
the
pus
chain
becomes
more
and
more
decentralized,
it
becomes
stronger
and
at
the
same
time,
the
optimistic
roll-ups,
dk
roll-ups
and
all
of
this
plasma
pos
essentially
comes
on
to
the
execution
layer.
So
the
data
layer
is
the
poi
stage.
Execution
happens
on.
You
know
optimistic.
G
You
know
on
the
on
the
layer,
2
side
on
the
or
side
on
zk,
side
etc,
depending
on
whatever
you
would
like
to
choose.
So
I
think,
once
we
have
optimistic
roll-ups
implemented
on
matic,
we
expect
to
see
a
huge
amount
of
liquidity.
Already
you
know
coming
into
the
network
simply
because
again
you
know
transactions
are
so
cheap,
they're.
So
fast
I
mean
any
d5
sort
of
protocol
would
love
that
and
and
yeah.
G
J
Decentralization
of
the
validator
network
seems
to
be
like
a
key
point
to
that:
the
ability
to
kind
of
distinguish
itself
and
offer
a
bunch
of
those
just
to
give
some
back
background
kind
of
dicks
down
thinking
about
layer.
Two.
We
have
kind
of
thought
about
all
of
the
different
options.
There
were
different
conversations
with
different
ones,
so
we
have
a
geek
style
base
on
xdi.
We
also
are
in
the
process
of
launching
two
of
our
products
on
xdi
mesa
and
omen
separately.
J
Rails
is
a
front-end
payment,
app
for
loop
ring,
so
we've
kind
of
been
following
loop
rings
development
a
little
bit
and
we
have
actually
also
been
in
conversation
with
the
the
arbitrary
team.
So
I
think
that's
an
interesting
one
that
you,
I
kind
of
said.
I
think
the
way
that
you
know
dick
style
looks
at
this
is,
I
think
you
know
it's
like
you
said
it's
a
liquidity
problem.
It's
us
a
coordination
problem,
because
there's
going
to
be
all
of
these
different
options,
how
are
things
going
to
coordinate
around
those?
J
I
think
geeks
now
having
liquidity
a
treasury
having
products
and
also.
J
That
can
port
to
different
ones.
I
think
we're
in
a
unique
opportunity
to
be
able
to
kind
of
play
the
landscape.
I
had
two
questions
that
were
more
kind
of
specific
on
what
you
guys
asked
one
is:
is
there
blocks
for
matic
that
we
could
check
out,
and
then
I
guess
specific
to
the
poly
market?
Is
the
conditional
gnosis
conditional
token
framework
deployed
on
nomadic
and
are
they
using
what
are
the
what's
the
amm
that
they're
using
to
process
those
transactions.
G
So
I
think
policy
right
so
polymarket
has
their
own
emm.
For
that
that's
that's
kind
of
I
don't
think
they're
using
any
any
sort
of
external.
Am
I
can
you?
Can
you
confirm
that.
G
I
think
if
I
understand
poly
market
correctly,
I
think
the
lot
of
their
sort
of
resolution,
which
is
once
let's
say
a
prediction,
has
to
be
resolved.
It's
it's
kind
of
done
in
a
off-chain
manner.
G
J
Yeah,
obviously
we
have
moment
which
is
built
on
the
notice's
conditional
framework,
which
I
know
poly
markets,
and
so
we've
been
very
interested,
switching
to
layer
two
but
probably
wrapping
the
layer,
one
token
and
then
like
transactions
on
matic.
I
guess
the
key
question
I'm
wondering
is
how
they
get
the
pricing
information
on
on
that.
F
I
Yeah,
you
know
chris,
so
it
uses
the
same
same
style
amm
that
omen
uses,
but
from
the
gnosis
team
I
did.
We
did
learn
that
gnosis
didn't
deploy
the
conditional
token
framework
on
matic,
but
they
believed
that
that
poly
market
did
it's
a
little.
It
was
a
little
hard
to
like
discover
it
through
like
the
explorer,
so
they
didn't
spend
a
lot
of
time
looking
into
it.
I
G
Token
system,
right,
no
that's
true
and
polymark-
has
got
their
own
like
sort
of
customized
like
pretty
customized
sort
of
thing.
So
even
even
the
meta
transactions
like
you
know
they
have
their
own
replayers
versus
using
something
like
out
of
the
box
like
bi
economy.
So
so
that's
kind
of
what
the
solution
is
like.
If
you,
if
you
have
more
questions,
we
can
definitely
connect
you
guys
to
the
poly
market
team.
If
there's
something
like
that
or
if
you
already
know
them,
then.
E
G
F
A
I
I
have
a
quick
question:
do
you
have
ens
support,
or
is
there
any
talks
with
dns
like
to
deploy
their
contracts
on
matic?
I'm
not
I'm
not
entirely
sure.
How
would
that
even
work
but
yeah.
G
Not
to
the
best
of
so
when
you
say
ens,
so
this
is
naming.
F
G
Yeah,
well
sure,
definitely
if
you
know,
if
so,
is
there
like
a
messaging
sort
of
thing
on
this,
like
yeah.
G
Oh
man
right
there
all
right,
so
you
know.
If,
if
anybody
wants
you
yeah,
so
we
posted
our
I've
just
also
posted
my
telegram
handle.
So
if
you
guys
have
you
know
any
any
questions
or,
for
example,
if
if,
if
you
can
connect
me
to
any
of
the
ens
guys
as
well,
I
can
we
can
definitely
at
least
have
a
conversation
with
them
and
tell
them
about
magic
so
that
you
know
they
have
auction,
or
at
least
you
know,
they
can
choose
better.
G
Awesome
that'd
be
that'd,
be
great
anything
else
guys
anything
you'd
like
us
to
cover
on.
Maybe
the
you
know
anything
on
the
technical
side,
anything
about
the
network
about
how
we
operate
any
other
questions.
G
Sure
you
can
so
essentially
we
so
on
automatic.
We
have
our
own
token
token,
which
is
essentially
been
designed
mostly
to
pay
for
gas.
G
Apart
from
that,
like
I
said,
stable
coins
are
supported
on
matic
and
any
erp
asset
right,
like
any
erc20
rg721
erc1155,
anything
which
is
on
layer,
one
can
be
mapped
to
layer
two
and
and
on
automation.
So
if
we
just
submit
like
a
mapping,
request
we'll
map
the
token
which
typically
takes
maybe
like
a
day,
and
then
you
know
post
that
you
can
then
sort
of
you
know
use
that
token
on
on
mavic
as
well.
G
G
Great,
so
you
know
here
I
had
you
know
a
quick
question
right
so
like
like
you
spoken
to
many,
like
you
know,
networks
like
you
said
you
know,
there
are
questions
about
about
decentralization
which,
which
I
understand
even
like
even
bsc,
for
that
matter,
has
just
about
like
20
validators,
and
you
know,
their
solution
has
been,
has
been
sort
of
slightly
slightly
different
right,
where
you
have
a
less
number
of,
maybe
I
mean
for
double
quotes
like
trusted
validators,
which
then
allows
you
to
do
things
like
exits,
etcetera,
right
versus
where
you
know
where,
with
the
solution
which
we've
gone
with,
which
is
like
very
decentralized
but
then
use
like
oars
and
things
like
that
to
solve
for
like
liquidity.
G
So
what
are
the
other
factors
you
guys
are
looking
for
and
like?
How
would
how
would
we
on
this
conversation,
you
know
and
then
sort
of,
maybe
you
know
like
if
you
guys
would
like
to
maybe
try
deploying
something
on
matic
to
see
how
it
is
like?
How
do
you?
How
would
we
proceed.
G
Sure
so,
in
terms
of
wallets,
like
every
major
wallet
out,
there
is
supported
by
matic.
So
you
know
like
minimal
sport
map
formatic.
Anything
like
that.
You
can
just
add
a
custom
rpc
url.
You
know
on
on
that
and
then
essentially
you're
good
to
go
and
you
can
connect
to
matic.
So
I
think
the
experience
has
been
fairly
seamless
and
I
think
the
way
forward
is
meta
transactions.
G
So
you
kind
of
take
that
sort
of
problem
out
of
the
sort
of
our
equation,
so
with
meta
transactions.
Since
it
uses
a
real
air
network,
you
can
be
connected
to
any
network
like
like
ethereum
or
any
any
any
of
the
test
networks,
but
you
can
still
sort
of
do
transactions
just
by
signing
the
transaction.
F
Right
so
we
you
know,
we
don't
expect
people
to
make
an
rpc
url
connect
to
matic
and
then
do
things
right.
So
what
we
have
done
is
we
have
used
the
feature
of
network
agnostic
transactions
in
which
using
eip712,
you
just
have
to
sign
the
transactions
gaslessly
and
everything
is
done
right.
So
that's
how
it
works.
So
yeah.
G
F
So
that's
the
part
also
guys
just
to
add
to
arjun's
question,
like
you
know,
since
you
guys
have
been
working
very
close,
pretty
closely
with
decentralized
finance,
and
you
know,
as
you
call
yourself,
we
also
believe
that
you
know
with
you
know,
bringing
decentralizations
to
their
fee
right.
So
how
do
we
solve
this?
You
know
like
composability
problem
like
it's
a
chicken
and
egg
problem
that
we
always
like
discuss
in
our
internal
conversations
as
well.
F
Like
you
know,
if
this
particular
thing
can
only
come
up
when
you
know
like
you
guys,
take
initiatives
build
a
part
of
it
on
second
layer
right
and
we
build
an
ecosystem
like
that
in
which
we
have
execution
only
to
like
matic
and
the
you
know:
verification
on
the
ethereum
networks.
So
how?
How
can
we
take
the
first
step
with
dx
or,
like
you
know?
How
does
it
happen?
Yes,.
J
The
short
answer
to,
in
my
view,
is
this
whole
space.
I
think
dows
and
incentives
right,
so
you
have
to
have
some
incentive
there
right.
The
question
is
how
to
liquidity?
How
does
the
quantity
form?
How
do
you
get
that
composibility?
How
do
you
get
that,
like
you
know
organic
market
to
develop,
and
I
I
I
truly
believe
this
is
where
dows
are
are
going
to
be
crucial
in
like
helping
to
coordinate
that
I
mean.
Obviously,
I
think
this
is
what
you
need.
J
The
whole
point
of
uni
is
is
going
to
be
some
type
of
coordination
mechanism
and
you're
also
seeing
this
for
those.
So
I'm
not
exactly
how
that
works
out,
but
I
think
that
the
governance
of
liquidity
and
migrating
liquidity
and
then
obviously
some
type
of
incentives
to
get
that
there.
G
Runs
on
so
like
what
we
felt
it
was
like
a
better
server,
sorry
service,
which
is
so
covalent.
Let
me
like
send
that
link.