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B
Hello
and
welcome
to
the
geek
style
governance
discussion
today
is
november,
the
10th
and
let's
jump
right
in
with
the
proposal
overview.
So,
first
of
all,
on
mainnet
we
have
one
proposal
live
currently,
which
is
the
dx
lisbon
contributor,
stipend
and
funds.
An
amendment
to
the
original
proposal
suggested
by
melanie.
This
proposal
is
actually
live
both
on
mainnet
and
on
x
die
and
it
actually
increases
the
amount
non.
European
people
can
expense
from
600
to
800
dollars,
and
it
also
includes
a
further
200
dollars
for
kovit
related
testing
for
flights
etc.
B
So
if
you
already
claimed
your
dx
retreat
and
lisbon
blockchain
week's
stipend,
you
know
it's
worth
looking
out
for
this
proposal
and
eventually,
if
it
does
pass,
you
can
request
some
more
funds
and
if
you
haven't,
maybe
just
wait
for
it
to
pass
and
do
so
then,
and
that's
pretty
much
all
we
have
on
mainnet.
B
We
did
have
another
proposal
which
passed
this
morning,
which
is
actually
sending
150
ether
to
x,
die
so
moving
that
to
die,
which
the
multisig
actually
already
did,
and
now
it's
just
about
bridging
that
and
will
actually
for
the
first
time
be
wrapping.
This
x
die
into
wrapped
x,
die
and
we
can
talk
about
that
as
well
later
on
and
then
moving
on
to
x-style.
We
currently
have
four
buybacks
live
which
are
going
through.
B
Apologies
for
the
pronunciation
proposal
live
the
second
half
of
his
last
one
and
the
first
one
of
his
new
one
exact
same
scenario
for
nathan
as
well.
With
two
proposals
live.
B
B
One,
of
course,
is
the
copy
of
the
one
on
mainnet,
which
is
a
dx
lisbon
contributor,
stipend
and
funds,
and
the
other
one,
which
is
a
bit
more
interesting,
perhaps
not
that
the
other
isn't
interesting,
but
something
more
new,
I
would
say,
is
actually
setting
some
new
parameters
on
the
quick
wallet
scheme,
and
this
also
relates
back
to
wrapping.
The
x
die
on
our
transfer
from
mainnet
to
the
xi
base,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
that
we
are
currently
testing
the
new
quick
wallet
scheme
on
x-die,
which
is
our
own
build
scheme.
B
So
I
believe
most
of
the
schemes
we
use
today
are
actually,
I
guess
you
could
say,
legacy
alchemy
schemes,
and
this
is
our
own
developed
scheme
which
has
different
parameters
and
also
allows
us
a
lot
more
flexibility
when
defining
a
scheme.
The
quick
wallet
scheme
is
actually
one
of
the
more
restricted
schemes
as
in
it
can't
really
do
much.
It
can't
install
new
schemes,
it
can't
access
treasury
funds.
B
It
can't
change
a
lot
of
the
permissions
on
the
schemes
and
in
fact
the
only
thing
it
can
really
do
is
disperse
funds
it
holds
within
the
scheme
itself
and
here's.
Actually.
The
issue
which
we
run
into
is
that,
given
the
inability
to
send
xdi
directly
to
the
quick
wallet
screen,
we
have
to
wrap
it,
send
it
to
the
treasury
and
then
we'll
be
able
to
fund
the
quick
wallet
scheme
from
the
treasury
with
wrapped
x,
die,
and
I
don't
know
ross.
B
C
C
So
that's
that's
my
motivation.
He's
been
evicted,
yeah
pretty
much.
If
I
don't
get
it
so,
don't
need
to
start
selling
ethereum
or
my
ens
r
drop
god
forbid,
yeah,
so
the
the
quick
wallet
scheme,
so
the
the
reason
we're
using
the
wrapped
x
die,
is
kind
of
just
a
temporary
solution,
never
silly
ns.
No,
I
won't
well
not
until
it
goes
up
a
bit
more.
The
the
issue
is
due
to
like
weird
legacy
stuff.
C
I
believe
the
previous
dow
stack
schemes
are
using
it
so
the
legacy
stuff
we
have
right
now
on
next
time,
midnight
apparently
augusto
says
it
wouldn't
be
an
issue
when
we
fully
moved
over
to
the
new
schemes,
and
so
there
was
some
work,
we're
going
to
do
to
sort
of
further
support
the
wrapped
tokens
versus
native
tokens.
C
But
I
think,
since
in
the
future
we'll
be
able
to
send
a
native
eth
and
on
extra
x
die,
it
shouldn't
be
too
much
of
an
issue
for
so
for
just
now,
we
need
to
fund
it
with
rap
decks
die,
but
it
won't
be
a
an
issue
in
the
relatively
close
future,
but
yeah.
This
is
the
quick
quality
scheme.
There's
a
there's,
actually
two
proposals
up
right
now
to
set
the
to
sort
of
fix
the
parameters.
C
So
previously
they
were
on
two
days
for
a
boosted
proposal
and
I
think
that's
maybe
half
of
what
the
current
xday
schemes
tend
to
use,
and
so
I
think
we're
coming
to
sort
of
an
in-between
point
of
three
days
to
update
the
quick
quality
scheme
too.
It
obviously
it's
kind
of
a
bit
more
secure
because
it
only
has
access
to
its
own
funds,
as
well
as
a
bunch
of
more
restrictions
around
like
rep
amount
of
rep.
C
It's
allowed
to
mint
and
I
think
that's
the
only
real
security.
So
then
augusto
made
an
initial
one,
but
here
yeah
added
an
extra
zero
to
one
of
the
parameters
was
getting
set
to
30
days.
Instead
of
three
days,
which
obviously
isn't
great,
so
if
you're
looking
to
vote
on
them,
be
sure
it's
the
right
one
yeah,
it
would
be
30
days
for
my
worker
payout,
which
wouldn't
be
fantastic.
C
I'd
probably
have
to
give
up
at
that
point
and
use
the
use
the
old
schemes
yeah.
So
there's
a
two
one
of
them
has
in
the
title
good
one
and
sort
of
explains
in
the
first
line
that
the
previous
one
is
incorrect,
so
be
sure
not
to
vote
on
that
one.
I'm
actually
not
entirely
sure.
I
think
we
might
be
able
to
just
still
get
the
gen
out
of
it.
I
had
on
one
of
the
schemes
one
of
I
was
on
the
quick
wallet
scheme
I
had.
C
I
had
a
proposal
that
was
incorrect
and
nobody
ever
ended
up
voting
on
it.
Yes,
jen
and
I'm
pretty
sure
I
was
able
to
claim
it
back
at
the
end,
even
though
it
technically
failed,
but
because
no
one
voted
on
it.
I
think
it
might
still
come
out
the
other
end.
I
don't
know
if
it's
different
on
the
old
schemes,
because
the
scheme
registrar,
I
don't
think-
is
a
new
one.
C
I
think
there's
not
enough
to
go
around
so
I
think
it
goes
to
maybe
all's
chris
from
jan
everyone
knows
chris
chen
essentially
yeah.
I
think
that's
it
on
on
the
new
scheme,
so
the
new
schemes
are
kind
of
just
these
more
secure
things
with
their
own
treasuries
and
with
more
limitations
around
the
rep
they
can
mint.
I
think
this
one
is
one
percent
the
rep
is
set
to
for
the
maximum,
so
we're
sending
over
some
of
these
funds.
That
dave
was
just
talking
about.
B
C
Oh
yeah
yeah,
so
yeah,
I
tested
it
briefly
with
some
of
my.
I
think
I
put
like
one
way
I
sent
one
way
of
dxt
and
wrap
decks
die
to
the
quick
quality
scheme,
just
so
that
we
could
test
it
without
there
being
actual
funds
there
and
it
all
went
through
perfectly,
and
I
have
a
vesting
contract
of
one
way
of
dxd,
which
is
very
nice
in
two
years.
I'll
get
that
out
and
government
starts.
D
So
all
of
this
talk
of
gen,
this
will
be
the
first
scheme
that
is
actually
using
dxd
in
holographic
consensus
and
the
parameters,
and
I
think
the
parameters
for
this
are
more
almost
more
important,
because
you
know
we're
joking
about
jen
in
the
chat
here
but
like
txt
is
not
a
joke
both
from
people
that
are
going
to
be
staking
that
and
maybe
losing
that
that
dxd
and
then
also
from
the
cost
to
dx
dow
for
running
holographic
consensus
because,
like
you
know,
we'd
be
giving
dxd
out
as
a
reward
to
incentivize.
D
Some
of
that.
So
I
think
in
the
current
parameters
the
minimum
dow
boost.
So
this
is
what
is
is
needed
to
stake
to
get
a
proposal
boosted.
So
it
starts
at
is
0.05
dxd
and
then
that
goes
up
by
like
the
boost
threshold,
constant
is
1.2.
D
So
it's
the
number
of
proposals
raised
to
the
1.2
or
so
1.2
raised
to
the
number
of
proposals
times
the
minimum
dial
boost
of
like
0.05.
So
you
know,
if
you
had
four
proposals.
D
It
would
be,
I
think,
like
0.14
dxd,
to
stake,
and
then
that
would
mean
I
think
the
I
don't
know
if
this
sets
a
minimum
dow
reward
like
what
is
what
is
the
scheme
using
to
incentivize
stakers
on
it,
but
yeah?
I
think
that's
an
important
thing
to
to
be
aware
of
just
with
holographic
consensus
with
dxd,
because
that'll
be
a
much
different
situation.
C
C
These
schemes
will
be
they'll,
have
been
working
and
being
tested
occasionally
by
the
odds
like
out
of
sync
person's
worker
proposal,
but
once
they
come
around,
we
can
kind
of
actually
see
how
the
current
parameters
are
set
up
in
the
quick
wallet
scheme
for
the
dxd
holographic
consensus,
part
of
things,
and
so,
if
that's
if
it
gets
like
way
too
expensive
we're
giving
out
way
too
much
dxd
for
each
of
these
proposals,
then
that's
something
we
should
look
at.
C
It's
kind
of
the
first
test
of
us
kind
of
actually
using
these
new
schemes
for
anything
other
than
just
swapper.
Farming
campaigns.
D
D
A
Exactly
and
that
then
is
distributed
again
between
the
stakeholder
if
the
proposal
get
executed
successfully,
right
yes
option
one,
and
that
is
something
that
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
have
it
in
the
future.
I've
been
thinking
of
maybe
not
giving
the
reward
like
doing
this
automatic
stake
against,
but
the
dow
one
won't
be
sending
and
any
fans
again
for
it.
How?
How
can
I
explain
that
just
take
the
dxe
to
show
that
the
dxe
is
a
ticket
against
buy
that
automatically,
but
you
won't
be
receiving
any
any
reward.
A
But
that
removes
the
incentive
to
boost
right
that
remove
the
incentive
to
boost,
but
you
will
get
a
reward
if
someone
else
boosted
against
it
or
maybe
we
can
decrease
it,
I
mean.
Maybe
we
can
add
something
in
the
future
where
we
can
put,
we
can
put
an
automatic
down
stake
of
0.05,
but
actually
the
tao
is
going
to
be
paying
a
half
of
that
right.
A
A
A
Yeah
yeah
yeah
me
too,
so
that's
something
that
we
can
change
in
the
future.
Just
answering
what
chris
say
on
the
on
on
the
channel,
I
think
the
dxe
minimum
stake
should
be
higher
than
the
dxe
reward.
So
that
is
something
that
we
can
consider
in
the
future
when
we
update
the
dxe
boring
machine
that
is
going
to
be
updated
at
some
point,
and
maybe
this
is
something
that
we
that
we
want
to
change
in
the
future.
It
is
possible
actually,
no
the
minimum.
A
The
minimum
stake
is
equal
to
the
to
the
reward
right.
So
if
you
require
a
minimum,
take
off
one
dxe,
the
dow
will
be
paying
one
dxz
which
again,
maybe
you
want
to
require
that
as
a
security
right?
Okay,
it
is
very
expensive
to
boost
this,
but
we
are
not
going
to
pay
that
much.
A
A
Yeah
200
gen
is
nothing,
but
you
know,
dxz
is
precious.
Our
dxe
is
very
precious.
We
have
a
lot,
but
it
is
precious
for
us
so
and
it's
actually
maybe
it's
going
to
be.
You
know
how
the
prices
are.
Are
changing
chain
is
kind
of
like
depreciating
right
now,
the
price.
Why?
Because
that
was
like
kind
of
dying
or
maybe
yeah
it's
dying.
So
no
one
is
going
to
use
it
anymore,
but
dxe
we
are.
Hopefully
the
price
is
going
to
still
going.
A
It's
still
going
go
going
up,
which
it
means
that
we
want
to
set
like.
Maybe
a
reward
can
be
in
a
stable
coins
so
again
something
for
the
future.
If
we
want
to
set
a
reward
in
in,
in
our
token,
that's
possible
so
yeah
something
to
discuss
in
the
future
right
now
you
the
the
amount,
the
reward
that
you
get
for
is
taking
positive
on
a
proposal
and
if
it
gets
executed
successfully
on
the
positive
outcome
you
get,
the
down
stake
is
distributed
between
the
stakers.
C
A
Exactly
exactly
the
incentive
should
be
there,
but
it
will
be
great
if
we
can
manage
somehow
to
require
again
now
we
are
going
to
still
give
a
reward,
because
it
is
time
it
is
an
effort
and
right
that
is
very
consuming
to
do
good
to
do
with
governor.
So
there
should
be
an
incentive,
but
maybe
we
want
to
increase
the
security
or
the
stake
required
for
a
proposal
to
to
be
boosted.
A
B
C
Nothing
immediately
comes
to
mind.
There's
I
could
demo
a
few
things
potentially
and
we're
currently
working
on
the
guilds
as
well
they're,
not
quite
ready
for
that.
We
have
geronimo
and
madisha
working
on
that.
A
Yeah
something
that
I
wanted
to
share
briefly
is
that,
since
we
are
going
to
do
another
audit
on
the
erc20
gears
based
on
everything
that
or
all
the
gifts
implementations
that
we
wrote
in
the
past,
more
specifically
for
all
men
and
how
other
users
requested
the
requested
or
challenged
even
the
the
option
of
to
have
a
proposal
that
is
going
to
execute
an
action
is
going
to
have
only
positive
votes
on
it.
I
did.
A
I
did
some
changes
on
the
proportion
structure
and
the
way
that
is
going
to
work
is
that
a
proposal
is
going
to
have
multiple
actions.
That
will
be
that
we'll
be
able
to
vote
upon.
This
means
that
a
proposal
would
be
able
to
have
one
action
where
you
have
to
vote
on
it
or
two
actions
right
like
yes
or
no
or
maybe
even
multiple
actions,
pretty
much
like
a
competition
scheme.
A
So
I
was
able
to
do
very
few
changes
in
the
in
the
years
20
years,
the
smart
contracts-
and
I
think
this
increase
a
lot,
the
the
thing
that
you
can
do
with
the
guild,
and
that
will
be
the
final
version
that
we'll
be
sending
for
for
the
audit.
And
after
that
we
will
write.
We
will
be
writing
the
the
execute
implementation.
We
will
write
the
omen
guild
implementation.
I
don't
know
if
that
is
still
going
to
happen,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
hedonism
was
going
to
be
happy
with
this
competition
scheme
structure.
C
Awesome
you'll
need
to
give
a
technical
deal
to
the
gates,
gov
team,
when
it's
ready
end
of
this
week
or
maybe
next
week.
Does
that
mean
we
could
do
scale
or
something
with
that
as
well?.
A
Maybe
maybe
that's
something
that
something
that
we
can
do.
What
I'm
planning
to
do
is
to
open
a
discussion
in
our
github
repository
using
it,
have
discussions
and
communicate
us
as
much
as
I
can
for
or
what
has
been
done
and
on
the
plan,
the
plan,
the
smart
contract
side,
so
to
communicate
with
the
developers
and
the
designers
on
what
is
going
to
be
happening,
but
yeah.
A
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
the
first
github
discussion
that
we're
going
to
have
and
the
idea
my
idea
is
to
have
open
discussions
more
focused
on
the
technical
level,
but
on
github,
with
big
features
that
we
are
going
to
be
including
again,
the
guilds
is
a
big
feature
and
then
we
are
going
to
have
hopefully
more
so
we
are
going
to
open
a
github
discussion
for
that.
A
C
C
The
idea
is
to
be
more
agile
right,
and
so
you
can
change
around
what
you're
doing
a
bit
more
we're
kind
of
weren't
that
far
off
of
it
before,
but
this
is
just
a
bit
more
of
a
structured
way.
So
every
week
we
have
these
sprints.
Where
mondays
are
our
sprint
garden
shop,
but
they
got
for
the
us
yeah.
Is
that
what
the
dick
is?
C
I
don't
know
that
yeah,
so
the
we
have
weekly
sprints
now
so
we're
starting
with
planning
on
the
mondays
and
then
a
retrospective
on
the
on
the
fridays,
which
is
what
we're
posting
in
the
in
the
github
discussions
area.
So
it's
just
kind
of
summarizing
what
we're
doing
the
aim
also
is
to
deliver
a
working
version.
C
Each
week
there
might
be
weeks
where
we
don't
do
or
we
don't
update
the
ens
officially,
but
the
idea
is
to
ship
a
new
product
at
the
end
of
the
week
every
single
week,
and
I
think,
last
week
it
went
quite
well
there's
a
few
things
that
just
takes
time
to
get
used
to
the
sprints
and
you
don't
really
see
the
benefit
until
you
can
sort
of
estimate
things
a
bit
easier
and
plan
the
sprints
more
efficiently.
C
C
Usually,
every
time
I've
done
sprints
before
it's
taken
us
a
long
time
to
get
to
the
stage
where
we,
where
we
actually
finish
all
of
the
issues
or
most
of
them
for
the
end
of
the
week,
yeah
so
I'd
say,
keep
an
eye
out
for
that
and
after
a
few
weeks
as
well,
we
might
give
a
more
proper
update
and
just
highlight
sort
of
how
things
have
been
going.
And
the
nice
thing
is.
B
Awesome
and
moving
on,
we
have
another
couple
of
items
on
the
agenda,
one
of
them
actually
being
the
ens
airdrop,
so
dx
dow
was
actually
awarded
46
296.3
ens
tokens,
which
are
currently
worth
three
and
a
half
million
u.s
dollars,
and
I
guess
one
question
that
arises
is:
shall
we
delegate
some
votes?
B
You
know
what
I
don't
know.
If
anyone
has
any
ideas,
what
we
could
do,
I
think
delegating
on
mainnet.
I
don't
know
how
that
would
even
actually
work
with
the
funds
in
the
treasury,
but
of
course
they
could
be
moved
to
the
multisig
to
to
do
some
kind
of
action.
Although
I
believe
that,
if
you
do
transfer
the
token
the
delegation
expires,
so
that's
also
something
to
keep
in
mind
and
yeah.
I'm
not
sure
if
anyone
had
any
thoughts
or
if
we're
just
parking
it.
D
D
We
do
and
there's
like
an
article
that
we're
trying
to
get
out
with
skye
that
has
written
about
the
process,
and
I
think
also
in
that
it's
like
an
opportunity
for
deke
style
to
also
like
assert
a
more
prominent
role
in
the
governance
I
think
of
a
public
good,
and
so
I
don't
know
how
we
should
think
about
that.
I
know
also
a
lot
of
people
even
here
have
probably
got
an
airdrop
and
I
don't
know
if
they've
sold
it
or
looking
to
delegate
it.
F
I
I
think,
one
of
the
main
ways
to
do
it,
and
this
comes
down
to
like
time
and
effort,
and
this
is
not
just
for
ens
dao,
but
this
will
be.
This
is
for
like
lots
of
different
taos
and
especially
in
an
ecosystem
where
the
members
of
dx
dao
community
are
like
pretty
connected
to
like
this
tool,
such
as
ens
is
actually
just
for
people
that
are
part
of
the
community
to
go
and
be
active
right
like
this,
you
know
happened
with
bankless
a
little
bit.
This
happened,
it's
happening
with
ens.
F
This
is
like
some
of
these
bigger
communities
like
it.
F
Well,
I
guess
we'll
be
awesome
as
if,
like
dx
dao
community
elected
a
delegate
to
become
and
like
the
community
said,
we
should
get
a
dx,
dow
delegate
and
then
dx
dao
and
people
in
the
exile
community
delegate
their
ns
tokens
to
that
person
and
that
person
can
go
kind
of
represent
dx
dao
in
discussions
and
things
and
that's
like
part
of
their
job,
and
that's
part
of
that
takes
a
lot
of
effort
and
participation
and
stuff,
but
not
sure
if
dxdow
can
actually
do
the
delegation.
F
But
we
should,
if
we
can't
do
it
yet
we
should.
We
need
to
figure
out
how
to
do
it,
because
that
that
is
something
we've
talked
about
for,
like
a
couple
years
now
like
how
do
we?
How
does
the
staff
participate
in
governance
of
another
ecosystem
and
right
now
we're
relying
on
individual
people
to
do
it,
but
then
yeah
with
delegation?
It
seems
a
little
easier
than
if
the
dow
had
to
vote
itself,
like
the
dow
voting
itself,
like
doing
its
own
proposal
to
then
decide
on
something
as
an
example
there
are.
F
Unchained,
so
there's
votes
that
happen,
and
then
there
are
daos
like
shark
down
that
own
a
bunch
of
nouns.
So
that's
like
seven
one
hundredths
of
the
voting
power,
and
so
every
proposal
that
happens
in
the
main
dow.
The
sub
dial
replicates
the
proposal
and
does
a
vote
and
then
and
then
that
outcome
is
then
communicated
into
the
the
main
vote
right.
So
that's
kind
of
how
like
true
dow
participation
in
another
dow
would
work.
F
The
problem
would
be
timing
and
how
long
it
takes
to
like
do
your
proposals
and
stuff
in
order
to
reach
consensus
and
then
convey
that
consensus
into
the
larger
vote.
So
I
think
in
the
meantime,
since
that's
not
timing
possible
and
not
technically
possible,
we
need
to
like
reach
soft
consensus
and
then
figure
out
how
to
vote
like
quickly
with
the
consensus
of
the
community
around
the
stake
that
that
dx
dow
has
taken,
I
mean.
Maybe
this
can
be.
Maybe
this
is
part
of
gov
dev
like
where
you
have
a
separate
quicker.
F
C
Quality
schemes
we
can,
we
could,
in
this
case,
like
make
a
scheme
just
for
a
specific
type
of
thing,
give
it
parameters
to
execute
within
a
certain
time
and
then
have
it
not
have
the
ability
to
call
the
the
main
treasury
as
well
as
not
being
able
to
mint
rep
and
not
giving
it
any
funds
to
play
with.
D
Yeah,
I
think
we
should
definitely
be
exploring
that.
I
think
it's
like
kind
of
that
down-to-down
interaction,
but
I
I
wonder
yeah
we
should
the
maybe
the
possibility
to
delegate
if
we
at
least
pick
someone
I
think,
there's
like
the
guy
from
roki
left,
terrace,
there's
also
the
neiman,
who
is
the
done
a
lot
of
ens
ipfs
stuff.
D
So
it
might
be
interesting
if,
like
the
dow
actually
like
picked,
someone
to
delegate
went
through
that
process,
they
kind
of
came
to
the
forum
or
something,
and
we
talked
about
things
but
yeah,
maybe
something
for
the
ens.
E
Yeah,
I
like
the
idea
of
delegation.
If
we
can
do
that,
because
it's
a
lot
of
work
to
to
keep
up
with
things
that
are
happening
yeah,
I
guess
we
got
to
explore
technically
what
that
means
and
how
that
would
work.
D
F
So
so
there's
we
now
have
two
scenarios
with
with
work
token
that's
held
in
dx
down
on
mainnet,
and
now
we
have
ens
token
that's
held
in
dxdl
and
mainnet,
and
we
like
that
it's
held
in
dxdao
on
mainnet,
but
then
we
can't
do
anything
with
it
right.
F
So
would
we
be
happier
with
putting
that
into
a
multi-sig
that
is
watched
by
dx
dow,
and
then
we
could
stake
the
work
token
and
actually
earn
more
work
token
in
the
system
which
is
on
polygon
and
then
with
ens,
we
would
put
it
into
a
mainnet
multisig
and
then
we
would
use
the
multisig
to
then
easily
delegate
it
to
a
person.
But
in
that,
in
those
scenarios
the
tokens
then
become
held
in.
F
You
know
two
different
multisigs
that
are
part
of
the
dxdow
ecosystem,
but
it's
not
sitting
in
the
treasury
anymore.
Is
that
something
that
that's
that's
the
immediate
way
to
do
it
and
right
now
we're
missing
on
doing
anything,
because
if
the
tokens
hit
in
maine
that
down
treasury,
we
can't
do
anything
with
them.
Do
we
want
to
sacrifice
that?
E
I
I
think
within
like
certain
limits.
That
might
be
the
way
to
go
in
the
short
term,
but
I
think
it
sort
of
highlights
that,
like
there's,
maybe
some
missing
infrastructure
that
would
allow
us
to
actually
interact
with
things
in
a
proper
way
or
even
delegate
right
like
like,
maybe
it'd,
be
great
to
have.
You
know
kind
of
the
equivalent
of
a
quick
wallet
scheme,
but
it
could
even
be
a
smaller
group
that,
like
has
the
ability
to
do
the
voting
or
whatever,
on
ens,
with
the
ens
tokens
or
with
the
work
etc.
E
But
they
don't
have
the
ability
to
take
the
funds
right
so
that
the
funds
are
safe,
like
still
like
owned
by
dx
style
people
completely
controlled,
but
certain
powers
or
responsibilities
could
be
actually
like
given
to
you
know
whether
it's
a
guild
or
like
even
just
a
couple.
People
in
some
cases,
like,
I
think
like
that
functionality,
I
think,
is
what
I
would
imagine
us
wanting.
E
B
B
So,
as
most
of
you
are
probably
aware,
the
majority
of
our
activity,
I
would
say,
is
fair
to
say,
happens
on
exide,
with
worker
proposals
and
buybacks,
etc
are
mostly
being
done
on
extire,
which
is
also
quite
obvious.
If
you
look
at
the
past
two
months
of
governance,
discussion
agenda,
most
of
the
proposals
are
always
on
die
right
and
the
gnosis
improvement
proposal.
B
Number
16
is
actually
a
proposal
to
merge
x,
die
and
gnosis
together
and
rename
it
to
gnosis
chain,
which
is
obviously
one
of
the
lesser
important
features
of
this,
but
they
would
also
be
swapping
stake
tokens
to
gnosis
tokens
and
on
the
other
side
it
would
also
mean
that
gnosis
is
putting
some
capital
behind
x
dice,
so
in
terms
of
scaling
as
a
layer
2
for
ethereum
a
bit
more
robust
technical
roadmap
and
as
well
as
some
integration
with
some
larger
d5
comp.
B
Sorry
web3
companies,
for
example,
infura
or
alchemy,
none
of
which
currently
support
xda.
In
fact,
I
think
the
only
archive
node
available
on
xdi
is
actually
the
one
provided
by
block
scout
and
well.
I
guess
it's
important
to
dx
dow
in
that
we
obviously
have
a
large
amount
of
our
activity
taking
place
on
x-die
and
in
a
minor
part.
B
We
also
hold
a
little
bit
of
stake
on
our
x-type
treasury,
which
is
around
7800
and
which
has
been
dropping
in
value
since
this
improvement
proposal
has
been
posted,
as
a
number
of
people
are
not
so
happy
with
it
in
the
forum
and
discord.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
you
guys
had
a
chance
to
read
through
it
also
post
the
link
here
in
the
chat.
B
But
if
this
does
move
forward,
I
from
what
I
understand.
The
only
thing
we
would
really
have
to
do
is
redeem
our
stake
for
gnosis
tokens,
which
is
at
a
rate
of
0.32.
I
believe
something
along
those
lines
and
yeah,
not
sure
if
anyone
has
any
comments
or
thoughts
about
the
matter.
D
Yeah,
I
was
just
interested
because
I
guess
we
talked
about
this
like
on
monday
and
there
was
kind
of
a
pretty
widespread.
D
This
is
good
news
for
teak
style
and
all
of
that,
and
then
there
was
some
negativity
in
the
forum,
and
I
guess,
like
we
know
like
no
one
is
taking
a
stance
on
this,
but
there
could
be
a
world
where,
like
dx
dao
is
like
an
active
supporter
of
the
merger
or
differently
like
us
individually
are
like
supporting
it,
maybe
even
going
into
the
forum,
so
sky,
I'm
mostly
kind
of
stretching
at
sky.
F
Yeah,
there's
the
the
same
conversations
being
had
with
like
many
projects
that
are
you
that
have
been
using
xdi
as
like
a
base.
It's
it's
a
little
unique
and
tricky,
because.
F
You
know
scalable
and
and
layer,
probably
real
layer,
two
and
things
like
that,
and
so
most
people
have
always
thought
of
ex-die
as
a
temporary
solution
that
now
with
this,
if
this
whole
thing
happens,
it
becomes
a
a
stronger,
more
well
positioned
chain,
but
yet
that
chain
is
still
not
ethereum
main
that
chain
right,
and
so
it's
still
it
kind
of
just
becomes
it's
not
like.
F
You
don't
need
to
commit
to
saying
this
is
going
to
be
our
answer
forever,
but
this
could
still
be
our
answer
for
now.
It's
just
in
a
in
a
stronger
position
and
eventually
we
still
think
that
the
end
goal
will
be
to
live
on.
You
know
real
layer,
two
on
mainland
ethereum,
but
so
there
lots
of
people
are
asking
questions
and-
and
you
see
some
people
in
the
forums
like-
is
this
a
good
deal?
Does
this
make
sense?
Is
this
a
good
brand?
F
Is
you
know
asking
these
questions,
and
so
I
don't
like
at
this
point,
since
we
rely
on
xdi
as
it
is
like,
if
we
continue
to
do
that,
we
we
like,
if
it's
in
a
stronger
position,
we
can
still
leverage
it
and
use
it
for
what
we
need,
but
but
probably
make
it
very
clear
that
this
is
not
like
what
our
end
goal
like
in
the
long
run
is
so
that's
that's
happening
across
the
space.
F
I
think,
and
it's
and
it's
confusing
some
people,
because
it
took
something
that
was
like
here's
clearly
a
a
temporary
solution
that
like
works,
for
what
you
need
today
with
certain
amounts
of
money,
and
then
it
puts
it
into
category
of
actually,
you
could
put
a
lot
more
money
on
this.
It's
a
lot
more
scalable,
it's
a
lot
more
decentralized,
but
it's
then
it's
like
kind
of
a
competitor
to
like
mainnet
ethereum,
rather
than
just
a
temporary
solution,
and
so
I
don't.
I
don't
know
if
there's
an
answer
for
this.
F
F
D
No,
I
think
it's
just
worth
following
just
kind
of
interested
to
see
the
community
response
and
how
it
gets
pushed
through,
because
I
think
it
will
get
pushed
through,
but
the
polls
are
not
pointing
that
direction.
Now,.
B
F
Yeah
some
would
say
that
that's
kind
of
necessary
because
part
of
the
issue
with
like
polygon-
or
it
did
happen
also
on
next
diet,
too,
is
when
the
when
the,
when
you
can
do
it
for
like
basically
zero
like
point
zero
zero
one
cent,
it's
very
easy
to
spam
right,
and
so
this
is
like
part
of
blockchain
is
like
there
has
to
be
some
cost
to
to
to
doing
a
transaction
and
ins.
If
one
cent
is
what
people
get
comfortable
with
to
use
like
web
three,
then
that's
probably
okay.
F
You
know
at
this
point,
we'd
be
happy
with
one
cent
to
do
transactions
right.
We
don't
need
it
at
like
a
hundredth
of
a
cent
or
a
thousandth,
compare
when
you're
comparing
things
to
like
mainnet,
but
if
that
makes
the
the
network
more
sustainable
and
safer
and
and
less
spam
attackable,
I
think
a
recommended
higher
fee
makes
sense
right.
F
B
It's
also
interesting,
the
well
they're,
also
activating
eip1559
right
on
x,
die,
which
means
that
die
will
actually
get
burned
while
it's
backed
by
dye
on
mainnet,
which
is
actually
not
burned
right.
So,
if
I
understood
correctly,
they
actually
want
to
accumulate
this
dye
instead
of
burning
it
to
then
fund
other
projects
etc.
F
F
That
need
is
already
happening
where
so
funds
bridged,
like
from
maine
on
to
xdi
the
funds
in
the
bridge
on
which
historically
just
sat
there
for
a
very
very
long
time
and
did
nothing.
Those
are
actually
being
put
to
work
in
earning
interest
which
okay,
there's
a
risk
there,
but
that's
a
very
like
unique
new
thing
and
the
x
like
there's
a
belief
that
any
bridges,
basically
and
bridges
are
becoming.
Obviously
more
and
more
popular,
like
bridges
that
aren't
are
not
putting
their
capital
to
work,
will
just
get
left
in
the
dust.
F
F
I
think
that
they
will
start
to
copy
what
xdy
bridge
is
doing,
and
eventually
all
bridges
will
actually
start
to
put
the
capital
in
the
bridges
to
work
and
then
that
that
generated
money
will
be
used
and
and
one
a
couple
ideas
for
xdi
were
like
the
bridge
might
be
free
to
use
like
right
now,
when
you
bridge
between
maine
and
x-tie,
you
pay
like
decent
fees.
F
They
might
like
use
this
generated
money
to
like
reimburse
your
bridge
fees
right
and
so
then,
all
of
a
sudden,
you
have
a
bridge
between
maine
and
next
guy.
That,
like
is
instant
and
actually
is
free
to
use
like
that's
a
huge
like
wing
or
something
like
compared
to
like
bridges
to
polygon
or
something
yeah.
E
F
F
F
Do
this
and
you
don't
know
what
they
do,
though,
like
it's
a
black
box
and
you
will
see
when
you
choose
a
bridge,
not
only
will
you
choose
which
bridge
you
want,
you'll
know
the
security
properties
of
that
bridge
and
then
you'll
know
what
they're
doing
with
that
money,
and
you
will
have
to
make
a
decision
and
like
score,
do
you
want
to
use
this
bridge?
Or
do
you
want
to
use
another
bridge?
Or
do
you
want
to?
F
E
F
Give
more
decision
points
basically,
but
this
will
be
like
scoring.
You
know
defy
score
scorers,
like
d5
projects.
You
will
have
bridge
scores,
because
bridges
will
probably
start
to
lose
money
and
people
will
attack
bridges
and
so
bridge.
Safety
is
something
that
like
we
should
always
be
thinking
about.
Yeah.
D
B
Awesome
well
one
last
item
on
the
agenda
and
it's
not
that
urgent
or
important.
So
if
you
do
have
to
drop
off,
feel
free
to
do
so
was
actually
moving
funds
to
arbitrary.
Now
that
we
have
the
multi-chain
multi-signature
wallet
and
as
well,
some
contributors,
for
example,
venky
who's,
been
submitting
all
the
farming
campaign
stuff
on
arbitrom
and
other
people,
of
course,
as
well
who
voted
and
submitted
proposals.
B
There
are
also
asking
about
arbitrary
gas
refunds,
right
which
I
guess
we
could
also
pay
out
on
mainnet,
but
which
doesn't
really
make
sense,
given
the
costs
so,
and
I
guess
we
also
want
to
start
building
a
base
on
arbitrary
right,
so
just
thoughts
about
moving
funds
to
arbitram.
I
know
we
already
have
a
signal
proposal
which
passed
authorizing
up
to
two
million.
B
I
believe
so
it's
really
just
moving
forward
and
going
ahead,
and
you
know
testing
the
multi
chain,
multi
signature
wallet
very
difficult
to
say,
etc,
which
we
are
also
actually
doing
today
on
x,
die
so
yeah.
If
anyone
has
any
comments,
otherwise,.
A
B
A
F
Oh
one
and
one
other
okay
governance
related
one
other
very
important
thing,
which
I
think
we
ran
into
issues
and
we
need
to
even
if
it
costs
some
money,
we
need
to
make
sure
people's
like
rep
is
correct.
On
the
all
three
chains
like
we
need
people
to
like
that.
I've
earned
rep
on
next
diet,
worker
stuff
to
like
claim
it
on
main
net.
So
they
have
it.
F
You
know
topped
up
on
maintenance,
and
then
we
also
need
to
like
get
it
properly
on
arbitrary,
because
I
think
there
are
people
that
have
a
decent
amount
of
rep.
That
should
also
have
an
arbitrary,
don't
have
it
for
some
reason,
because
of
the
snapshot
that
took
was
taken
at
some
point
in
the
in
the
past
or
something.
B
I
think,
thanks
to
the
deployment,
I
don't
know
what
objective
to
use,
but
the
mess
up.
I
think
the
snapchat
has
actually
been
updated
to
be
much
more
recent,
but
anyway
yeah.
I
still
agree
with
your
point
here.
E
E
There's
everybody
should
have
the
the
main
net
wrap,
so
this
might
be
where
the
issue
is
right.
Sky
is
like
yeah,
people
might
have
xdirect,
but
they
haven't
synced
it
recently
on
mainnet,
and
so
then
they
wouldn't
have
it
yet
on
on
arbitrary
but
yeah
like
yeah,
hopefully
the
gas,
just
the
gas
costs
and
everything.
Obviously,
there's
security
concerns
to
doing
the
batching.
So
like
yeah,
I
agree,
though
this
guy
we
need
to
like
yeah.
F
Even
without
batching
and
and
the
important
thing
is
get
your
your
x
die,
which
is
like,
where
you've
earned
most
of
your
rep,
get
that
onto
mainnet,
and
then
once
you
have
that
on
maintenance,
then
you
can
request
your
proper
amount
on
arbitrary.
I
believe.
E
C
I
was
going
to
ask
if
it
makes
sense
when
we're
burning
the
whales
rep,
if
we
just
burn
it
down
to
the
amount
that
they
have
on
next
day
to
save
some
stuff.
There.
D
Just
to
to
get
back
to
the
like
the
fun
transfer,
because
I
think
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
like
how
do
we
get
to
that
point?
I
think
we
need
to
do
the
testing
sky
because
we
have
done
at
the
bridging.
I
think
there
is
ease
to
bridge
in
that,
and
so
maybe
we
could
do
that
and
then
I
do
think
it's
very
important
to
get
like
the
sinking
there.
D
I
think
if
we
burn
the
rep
whales
amount
that
even
if
it's
not
like
the
perfect
distribution
now
it
should
be
at
least
pretty
good
for,
like
a
base
level
of
governance
that
we
can
run
things
on
and
we
can
like
work
on
getting
it
synced
up
as
we
as
we
go.
But
I
don't
know
if
it's
gonna
like
prevent
us
from
starting
to
use
it
as
like
a
functioning
base.
E
D
The
other
things
the
proposals
and
stuff
yeah
yeah.
The
other
thing
is
that
we
have
clear-
or
we
are
clearing
the
queue
a
little
bit
more,
not
only
because
like
venky
specifically,
but
a
lot
of
people
have
been
doing
so
many
proposals
on
this
that
they're
familiar
with
it,
and
then
we
did
the
the
most
recent
epochs
were
longer
for
the
big
pairs.
D
So
there
shouldn't
be
as
many
proposals
that
we
have
to
get
through,
and
that
was
maybe
one
of
the
concern
of
relying
on
holographic
consensus
was
how
quickly
the
threshold
could
increase
with
a
lot
of
proposals,
but
there
should
actually
be
less
proposals
going
forward
because
we
batch
them
up
into
longer.
Epochs.
F
B
Good
also
just
work
a
proposal.
Rep
should
be
synced
right
because,
like
I
have
a
ton
more
rep
on
next,
I
just
through
submitting
daily
proposals,
etc
right,
but
so
just
coming
back
to
what
ross
said
to
burn
it
down
to
the
amount
we
have
on
x
die,
it's
actually
a
bit
more
complicated,
because
I
would
have
to
calculate
how
much
I
actually
got
through
worker
proposals
and
how
many
I
got
from
proposal
rewards
right.
C
Yeah
that
would
work.
We
could
even
have
a
display
of
that,
and
if
this
is
something
going
forward,
we're
going
to
have
quite
a
lot
of
like
if
we're
deciding
to
not
sync
reward
rep
and
make
that
a
separate
thing.
It
could
even
make
sense
to
have
that
in
the
dates
vote
ui
as
like
a
breakdown
of
what
your
reps
actually
made
up
of.