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B
Welcome
to
geek
style
governance,
discussion
for
wednesday
july
7th
1500
utc,
starting
first
with
the
proposal
roundup
lots
of
proposals
on
both
paces.
I
think
in
total
there
were,
I
think,
there's
24
proposals
going
on.
B
Most
of
these
are
either
buyback
proposals
or
worker
proposals,
so
they're
actually
12
proposals
right
now,
representing
six
buyback
orders
currently
in
the
queue
two
of
those
are
on
xdi
and
four
of
those
are
on
mainnet.
There
are
eight,
yes,
eight
worker
proposals
currently
boosted
right
now,
that's
a
pretty
incredible
number.
I
think.
Right
now.
B
The
work
of
proposals
are
for
skymon
labs,
lucy,
foss,
medusa,
francesco,
levo,
tiate
zett
and
a
gusto
on
xdi
and
then
kermit
or
nlhb
on
mainnet,
and
then
just
kind
of
quick
update
on
the
buyback.
While
we're
on
the
topics.
B
As
I
said,
there
are
six
orders
currently
in
the
queue
the
buyback
dxd
number
six
was
executed
last
night
since
the
sixth
one
was
executed
on
mainnet
and
it
was
actually,
I
think
it
was
all
filled
so
right
now
we
deekstow
has
reacquired
1851
dxd
through
the
through
the
program
and
that
is
at
a
520,
000
purchase
amount.
B
So
obviously,
52
of
the
way
towards
the
buyback
there,
and
if
you
look
at
the
six
proposals
that
are
in
the
queue
right
now,
it's
obviously
hard
to
know
exactly
what
those
executions
will
be
about,
but
probably
like
the
maximum
it
could
take
it
to
is
probably
about
eight
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
if
they
were
kind
of
purchased
a
little
bit
higher
amount.
So
hopefully
for
next
week.
B
B
Cool
and
then
on
xdi,
there
are
a
couple
other
proposals.
We
have
the
a
couple
signal
proposals.
There
is
also
the
discord
core
quarterly
discord,
rep
boost
that
keenan
has
been
leading.
B
This
is
the
second
one
there,
the
level
k
reimbursement
for
ethworks
payments,
and
then
there
is
a
signal
proposal
for
peter
the
prediction
squirrel,
which
I
think
was
a
positive
or
well
received
proposal,
but
I
think,
may
have
not
passed
the
the
boosting
stage
so
maybe
needs
to
be
recalculated
in
the
appropriate
amount
of
state
on
that.
But
that's
a
fun
proposal
about
a
prediction:
peter
the
prediction:
squirrel,
as
a
mascot
for
for
omen.
B
And
then
there
is
a
proposal
to
return
26
weft
to
dxtile,
so
this
is
related
to
actually
the
swapper
liquidity
deposits
and
so
the
way
the
relayer
works.
It
keeps
excess
liquidity
into
the
swapper
relayer
when
it's
trying
to
to
deposit
the
right
ratio
into
swapper.
So
this
is
a
proposal
just
to
recall
this
26
weft
back
to
back
to
xdx
dial
there
and
it'll
just
sit
in
there.
I
think
that,
should
it
would
aim
to
pass
in
four
days.
B
And
then
just
the
other
thing
as
a
follow-up
to
last
week,
I
don't
think
there's
a
new
proposal
yet,
but
as
a
fault
to
the
discussion
on
the
locked
75
000
usdc
in
the
relayer
contract.
So
we
are
in
touch
with
circle
about
trying
to
recover
those
funds.
B
Although
I
think
the
initial
analysis
is,
it
looks
very
unlikely
that
they'll
be
able
to
do
that
and
then
I
think
keenan
is
looking
to
move
his
planning
move
forward
and
submitting
another
proposal
for
the
75k
in
usdc
directly
to
the
multisig.
So
we'll
look
for
that
proposal
going.
B
B
Cool
and
then
yeah
the
next
topic
is
martin
krohn's
worker
proposal.
You
know,
I
think,
just
to
say
from
the
start.
I
think
it's
important
that
we
all
stop
and
appreciate.
You
know
how
radical
of
an
experiment
this
is.
You
know
I
snicker
at
crypto
twitter's
infatuation
with
dows,
you
know,
but
it's
it's
true.
We
dx
dao.
The
people
on
this
call
are
raising
new
ground.
The
future
of
work-
and
you
know
really
how
power
on
the
internet
is,
is
governed.
It's
really
exciting
right.
B
I
think
that
we're
all
discussing
these
things.
It
motivates
me
each
day
because
it's
like
exciting
to
kind
of
figure
out
what
to
do,
but
it
also
humbles
me.
You
know
certainty
is
just
not
a
possibility
here,
like
by
definition.
No
one
has
done
this
before
so
we're
all
building,
while,
while
learning
here-
and
I
think
some
humility
is-
is
good
for
for
all
of
us.
Broadly
speaking,
I
think
governance
comes
from
precedent.
B
You
know
we
can
prescribe
ways
to
act,
but
precedent,
you
know,
is
what
makes
us
stay
humble
to
the
here
and
now
right,
solving
real
problems
that
we're
dealing
with
with
consensus.
So
just
you
know
to
those
listening
at
home
who
may
have
not
been
you
know
kind
of
the
background
on
this.
B
There
was
a
long
thread
on
dow
talk
that
I
implore
all
of
you
kind
of
to
read
regarding
martin
cronin's
worker
proposal,
so
martin
has
been
working
on
mesa
now
aqua,
for
I
believe,
last
seven
months,
and
there
were
concerns
about
his
performance
and
also
the
lack
of
a
worker
proposal.
They
were
just
in
the
forum
and
so
we're
trying
to
seek
kind
of
consensus
and
a
path
forward.
B
Here,
I'm
going
to
give
the
floor
to
martin
in
a
minute
to
kind
of
lay
things
out
and
we
can
move
from
there,
but
I
think
it's
important,
obviously
that
everyone
remains
cordial
and
that
we,
you
know,
focus
on
trying
to
find
a
solution
or
kind
of
consensus.
Do
this.
You
know
both
for
this
specific
situation,
but
you
know
what
it
means:
kind
of
for
for
dx,
dow
going
forward,
and
so
yeah
martin
want
to
kick
it
off.
I
will
moderate,
when
necessary,.
C
We
discuss
in
the
process
of
six
months
are
there,
but
I
also
have
like
a
proposal
out
there
for
june
july,
so
we
discussed
about
the
seven
months
now.
It
looks
like
maybe
a
recap.
C
I
did
not
do
the
proposal
for
several
months
and
it's
an
issue
and
we
have
now
the
result.
The
situation
we
had
we
have
now
is
the
result
of
this
and
yeah.
That's
on
me.
I
shouldn't
have
done
this
differently.
I
should
have
done
it
earlier,
but
there
are
reasons
I've
been
the
main
reason.
Is
I've
been
head
down,
recruiting
a
team
and
kicks
down
the
project,
then
managing
work
and
research
on
the
product
and
what
I
did
is
on
the
daily
dxo
call.
I've
been
as
transplant
as
possible.
C
C
I
had
we
had
like
crisis
leave
for
leading
sandvik
lee.
It
was
like
a
crisis
and
then
we
crawled,
I
recruited
new
people.
The
other
thing.
What
hold
me
back
is
I
needed
to
time
to
establish
my
new
company,
which
was
done
mid
mine.
My
company
has
been
established
at
the
beginning
of
the
may,
but
I've
been
in
vacation.
Then
my
company
has
been
established
and
as
long
as
my
company
has
not
been
established,
I
could
not
build
the
deep
style
because
for
me
it's
important
to
have
like
a
do
it
over
company.
C
In
fact,
I'm
still
think
I'm
the
right
person
to
lead
this
effort
to
make
aqua
I'm
in
this
eclipse
space
since
2011.,
I've
been
in
ethereum
since
2015.,
I'm
here
and
I've
been
able
to
be
at
the
right
moment
at
the
right
place
more
than
once.
Finally,
I
have
a
deep
understanding
of
software.
I've
thrown
my
own
web
agency
for
20
years.
I
know
something
about
entrepreneurship,
I
own
a
math
and
master's
of
advanced
start,
the
innovation
engineering.
C
C
C
C
C
B
Cool
and
any
initial
thoughts
from
people,
I
think
just
thinking
about
focusing
on
or
defining
the
context
that
you're
kind
of
wishing
to
address
that
was.
You
know,
martin
kind
of
specifically
talking
about
he's
talking
about
the
payment
and
whether
we're
talking
about
mesa
in
the
future
or
different
issues,
just
make
sure
and
kind
of
highlight
the
context
that
we're
interested
in
discussing.
C
Myself,
I
think,
yeah
we
had
like
a
discussion
on
the
on
the
dow
talk
forum
and
have
been
at
the
end.
It's
it's
it's
the
question.
If,
if,
if,
if
I
get
my
rightful
pay,
that's
open
to
discussion
and
there's
there
have
been
different
solutions
for
this
floating
around
and
yeah
for
me,
yeah,
it
have
been
it's
not
that
I'm
say
I'm
like
thoughtless.
I
did.
I
didn't,
handle
it
wrong.
In
fact,
I
could
also
do
it
like
I
could,
even
without
payment.
I
could
make
like
a
signal
proposal.
C
C
D
Yeah
but
each
of
us
we
are
creating
a
proposal
every
two
months
and
we
are
reviewing
each
of
our
words,
and
that
is
when
we
stop
and
we
analyze
the
work
that
has
been
done
and
I
think
that
most
of
us
or
a
lot
of
people
have
been
had
their
work
challenged
at
some
point.
So
even
myself
a
couple
of
times
and
that's
the
whole
reason
why
we
are
doing
like
this
every
two
months,
because
I
think
it's
easy,
it's
easy
to
say
hey.
D
C
That's
true,
I
was
thinking
it's
enough.
If
I
show
I
tried
to
be
the
most
transparent
as
I
could
you
know,
I
think
this
was
like
the
yeah.
I
I
I
tried.
I
didn't
hide
like
anything.
So
it's
like
I've
been
very
transparent
where
we
are
or
the
stage
of
the
product
is.
I
was
thinking
this
is
enough
to
get
some
feedback
and
people
tell
me
yeah.
That's
not
what
we
want.
That's
not
yeah,
I
we
don't
get
what's
on
going
on
and
this
was
what
I
think
it's
them.
C
Of
course,
at
the
end,
you
know
with
my
business
now
how
I
have
to
admit
that
normally
it's
different,
if
you
just
work
on
you
know,
have
if
you
work
for
clients
also,
sometimes
you
know
they
say
yeah
go
ahead,
work
on
and
then
at
the
end,
if
they
see
even
maybe
you
even
discuss
price
with
them,
you
know
you
tell
them
yeah,
that's
cost.
This
is
more
expensive
for
all
this
kind
of
stuff,
but
if
they
see
the
number
at
the
end,
it's
a
different
yeah.
It's
a
different
feeling.
C
D
Yeah
here
we
are
governing
ourselves,
so
I
think
that's
why
we
are
all
like
sharing
our
work.
I
kind
of
kind
of
constantly
like
every
two
or
three
every
one,
every
one
or
two
months.
This
is
the
thing.
No
one
is
going
to
come
and
say:
hey
you
have
to
create.
You
work
a
proposal.
D
Well
right
now
we
have
melanie
that
is
kind
of
remind
keeping
us
reminding
ourselves
if
we
are
getting
delayed,
I
guess,
but
it
has
to
come
from
ourselves
if
it
takes
a
lot
of
time,
it's
like
yeah,
so
he
did,
it
didn't
came
from
you
and
it
came
six
months
in
a
six
month
review
and
a
lot
of
time
has
passed
in
six
months
and
I
guess
like
me
and
other
users
and
other
the
excel
members
who
are
expecting
us
the
same
results
or
at
least
as
close
as
we
had
on
other
products
like
on
mesa
or
omar
or
the
extras
there
wasn't
there,
and
even
though
well
you
had
your.
C
Challenges
I
heard
this.
I
did
read
this
agust
and
I
agree,
but
somehow
you
know
I
did
like
a
completely
new
product,
it's
different.
If
you,
if
you
have
like
an
existing
product
and
start
building
on
top,
then
you
have
like
a
start
and
the
other
products
have
been
like
this.
You
know
for
uni,
swap
we
had
a
call
and
then
we
we
started
them
yeah.
C
We
we
started
from
you
for
the
smartphone
we
had
like
ooh
and
then
we
started
with
this
and
you
know,
but
I
I
did
see
if
you
look
at
proposal
and
people
do
proposal,
and
you
know
I
asked
my
team
many
times
doing
proposed.
But
if
you
look
at
proposed,
you
see
other
other.
Well,
I'm
not
just
the
only
one
who
does
struggle
with
this
and
he's
delayed
and
he's
like
yeah
he's
it's
even
it's
very
common
that
people
work
without
proposal
at
the
end.
You
know
many.
D
D
I
understand
you
because
even
my
working
proposal
right
now
was
late
like
a
month.
I
know
I
was
very
much
I
was.
I
was
busy
with
other
stuff.
I
I
leave
it
like.
I
propose
it
on
the
time
on
doubt
talk,
but
it
took
me
like
a
month
to
sit
down
and
graduate,
so
I
know
that
all
of
us
might
have
some
sunday
day.
D
C
Know
for
me
for
me
it's
for
me.
It's
undisputed,
that
I
I'm
I'm,
I'm
not
here
to
to
claim
the
whole
amount,
because
that's
not,
I
think
it's
not
okay
to
to
not
do
it
and
then
afterwards
thinking
I
should
get
the
whole
amount,
but
I
I'm
open
to
a
haircut
and
we
should
like
discuss
this.
I
guess-
and
there
have
been
some
some
ideas
floating
around
because
yeah
I
agree.
You
know
I
didn't
do
it.
I
I
was
thinking
I
was
maybe
naive.
I
had
I
had
like
this
this
issue
with
the
company.
C
This
has
been
known
to
you
know
it's
not
that
it's
not
hidden.
Somehow
it
takes
some
time
to
find
a
company
but
yeah
I
did
I
didn't,
do
it,
how
we
should
do
it
and
the
thing
is:
I'm
not
the
only
one.
Others
also
work
right
now
without
the
proposal,
and
we
should
find
either
general
rule
to
solve
this
or
we
should
yeah.
That's
that's
one
discussion.
Maybe
we
don't
have
to
need
to
discuss
this
today.
C
B
E
Yeah
I
just
raised
my
hand
because
I
want
to
just
raise
something
right
now,
so
if,
if
martin
is
to
take
some
sort
of
cut
on
his
his
pay
because
he
was
delayed
and-
and
we
all
agree
he's
significantly
delayed,
he
he
has
he's
informed.
He's
told
me
in
multiple
occasions
he's
told
the
contributor
ux
squad.
Why
he's
been
delayed?
There's
even
some
specifics
there.
I
think
for
him
regarding
taxation
reasons,
why
he
couldn't
issue
any
payments
and
then
also
mind.
E
You
is
good
for
dxdow
as
well,
because
we
are
not
a
legal
entity.
So
martin
was
also
doing
this.
You
know
for
himself,
but
this
actually
also
helps
us
as
well,
so
sometimes
the
united
states.
It
took
me
no
time
to
set
up
a
company
other
jurisdictions,
it's
very
different,
but
if
martin
is
to
be
docked
on
his
on
his
pay,
I
I
would
suggest
that
anyone
else
who
is
over
a
month
late
with
their
current
proposal
do
the
same
thing
going
forward.
E
E
We
could
talk
about
that
and
that's
that
that
would
be
more
of
an
individualized
circumstance.
But
if
the
justification
is
the
delayed
proposal,
I
I
would,
you
know,
suggest
and
recommend
that
anyone
else
who
is
in
the
same
circumstance
also
apply
the
same
rule
to
themselves
going
forward
on
their
current
proposals,
because
martin
had
no
notice
of
this
prior.
F
E
Exactly
what
I'm
getting
at
is
that
anyone
currently
currently
in
the
circumstance
of
having
a
delayed
proposal
of
like
over
a
month
would
need
to.
You
know
recognize
that
they're
gonna
have
to
do
the
same
thing
like
with
their
current
delayed
proposal,
because
I
just
don't
think
if
that's
the
reason
we're
talking.
Martin,
I
just
don't
think
that's
correct.
If
that's
the
justification.
G
Do
people
consider
six
months
delay
the
same
weight
as
a
month
delay.
G
E
Over
one
month
to
be
in
the
same
ballpark
because
you're
you're
not
giving
the
opportunity
to
receive
peer
review
or
feedback
regarding
your
performance
and
that's
what's
created,
I
think
many
of
the
pressure
points
that
we're
dealing
with
now
because
we're
you
know
we're
changing
our
organization.
So
we
need
to
create
stop
points
for
one
another.
F
F
I
think
that
we
should
be
doing
that
on
a
more
regular
basis,
all
the
time,
and
so
you
don't
you
can't
say
you
only
give
feedback
when
there's
an
on-chain
proposal
like
that
is
in
that's
inefficient,
that's
it
what
it
does
is.
It
builds
up
a
lot
of
stress
and
then
all
of
a
sudden.
At
one
point
everything
comes
at
once
when
we
should
be
talking
about
this
stuff.
What's
not
going
well
where
we
should
reallocate
resources,
how
we
should
adjust
things.
We
should
be
talking
about
that
thing,
that
type
of
stuff
all
along.
E
Yeah,
I
completely
agree
with
you
sky.
I
think
that
we
need
to
think
about
ways
to
implement
this,
especially
with
amongst
the
squads
themselves
and
who
you're
working
with
immediately,
but
then
also
brainstorming,
some
solutions.
I
think
we'll
talk
about
it
more
during
the
contributor
ux
meeting
about
even
having
level
fives
or
squad
leaders
getting
some
peer
review,
even
from
high
percentage
rep
holders,
two
percent
or
more
and
fellow
squad
leaders,
whoever's
worked
with
them
and
just
make.
G
E
B
I
think
the
best
way
to
adjudicate
dx
doubt
adjudicate
disputes
among
rep
holders
is
through
geeks
down
governance.
So
in
a
lot
of
ways
like
I
think
this
is
a
bad
situation
to
be
in
without
doing
a
worker
proposal
for
so
long,
but
really
what
it's
done
is
it's
left,
martin,
more
vulnerable
right
in
a
way
it's
kind
of
like
because
he
has.
B
Sorry,
sorry,
martin,
I
think
you're
dude,
because
it
makes
him
more
vulnerable
from
a
negotiating
standpoint,
because
now
he
has
to
come
and
like
negotiate
with
rep
holders
about
kind
of
what
it
is
and
what
he
should
get
paid
or
what
he
should
kind
of
do.
And
if
you
have
closer
checkpoints,
then
that
kind
of
strengthens
your
negotiating
position.
B
So
I
guess
in
a
lot
of
ways
I
think,
like
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
create
hard
and
fast
rules
upon
these,
but
more
on
like
ensure
that,
like
governance,
rep
holders
have
the
ultimate
backstop
and
validating
and
realize
like
if
you
want
to
build
legitimacy
and
increase
your
like
chances
of
of
accelerating
and
doing
well
that
we
can
like
add
on
to
it
from
that
side.
E
Yeah,
we
should
definitely
we're
gonna.
We
should
bring
up,
and
if
we
have
time
in
the
later
meeting,
to
talk
about
all
this
and
some
proposed
ideas.
That
would
be
great.
But
regarding
martin
does
anyone
else
have
anything
to
say
about
why
martin
should
reduce
his
pay
other
than
he
didn't
submit
a
proposal
in
the
past
six
months,
because
if
that's
the
reason
for
him
receiving
the
pay
cut,
I
do
think
it's
gonna
have
to
apply
to
anyone
else,
who's
also
late
in
over
a
month
and
submitting
a
proposal.
H
I
mean
it
would
have
been
nice
to
have
some
kind
of
a
vote,
so
we
know
at
least
where
the
community
stands,
but
we
don't
even
have
a
vote
and
that's
a
bit
like
a
gray
area.
For
me,
I
I
see
the
points
of
both
sides
and
I
believe
this
is
going
to
work
out
in
a
really
positive
way
for
for
the
dow
moving
forward.
But
it's
just
I
don't.
I
don't
even
know
where
we
stand.
F
Yeah
one
one
thing
would
be
in
terms
of
like
performance:
there
were
a
number
of
comments
and
things
related
to
like
level
right
and
so
judging
either
post
or
prior
to
like
contribution
level
and
and
and
a
few
people
saying.
F
Maybe
the
solution
is
a
lower
level
or
it
didn't
perform
at
a
certain
like
level
five,
so
just
to
clarify
that,
like
dx
dials
level,
five
is
I
have
a
deep
expertise
in
a
particular
vertical
or
have
direct
experience
that
is
relevant
to
web3,
d5
or
daos,
I'm
eager
to
further
the
mission
of
dx,
dow
and
work
with
other
engaging
and
ambitious
people.
F
Now,
in
my
mind,
almost
everyone
here,
like
all
many
many
people
here,
fit
that
fit
that
level
right
and
to
to
even
imply
that
martin
doesn't
fit.
That
level
is,
is,
I
think,
doesn't
make
any
sense
at
all.
So
discussing
like
what
people's
level
is
based
on
dx
dow's
levels
and
saying
you,
okay,
you
didn't
perform
you're,
not
level
five,
that's
that's!
It
has
to
be
some
other
argument
for
like
paying
less
or
something
not
you
can't
say
martin's,
not
level.
Five.
Basically,.
C
Yeah,
shall
I
add
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
I
think
we
should.
Okay,
it's
also
my
interest.
We
should
find
insulation
solution
for
myself
all
for
my,
because
I'm
not
sure
if
he
now
should
like.
In
fact,
I
think
I
think
it's
not
good
to
go
like
backwards
because
going
backwards,
it's
is
like
yeah,
then
you
go
backwards
and
normally,
if
you
make
new
rules,
they
don't
apply
backwards.
C
This
is
just
not
even
if
there's
no
new
law,
some
somewhere
most
law.
If
you
make
a
law,
it's
only
forwards.
Looking.
So
if
we
change
general
rule,
we
should
like
change
it
forward.
Looking,
I
guess
this
is
not.
I
don't
say
I
don't
take
like
a
haircut,
and
what
I
would
propose
is
that
I
I
I
should
got
around
like
one
person
trap
and
for
me
it's
okay,
to
take
hit
on
this,
that
I
did
that.
I,
because
this
is
what
I
failed
on.
You
know
on
the
reputation
level
I
failed
on
this.
C
So
how
does
it
sound
would
be
the
solution
to
solve
this
because
at
the
end
we
need
like
some
some
sensors,
because
I
will
put
even
make
another
vote
and
then
we
need
like
a
yes
and
it's
not
about
you
know
you.
Can
you
can
look
at
this
system
that
it's
all
about
the
vote?
You
know
you
go
to
vote
at
the
end,
but
imagine
we
now
discuss
solution.
We
find
a
solution
we
which
we
somehow
agree
and
then
at
the
end
it
fails
on
on
the
voting
side.
B
Maybe
not
maybe
but
yeah,
I
guess
just
in
kind
of
to
hone
in
the
conversation
now
I
think
what
nathan
said
was
interesting.
He's
not
sure
like
what
to
vote
on.
I
guess
john
is
if
you're
yeah,
I
don't.
I
I
wasn't:
can
I
just
make
a
quick
comment.
This
is
called
there's.
I
Sorry
I
was
on,
I
was
on
mute.
I
didn't
realize
that
I'm
in
an
office
now,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
quick
comment
about
what
tammy
had
said.
I'm
not
sure
I
completely
see
the
reasoning
outside
of
you
know,
sort
of
a
legal
reasoning
around
the
structuring
of
a
of
a
company.
I
Why,
whatever
we
decide
to
do
in
this
case
would
affect
current
proposals
that
are
late
and
the
only
reason
I
say
that
is
that
in
the
end,
the
the
votes
that
are
you
know
made
on
a
proposal
up
or
down
decide
that.
So
it
seems
to
me
that
an
alternative
would
be
that
the
individuals
who
are
late
with
their
proposals
currently
would
you
know,
would
present
some
sort
of
argument
within
their
proposal
modifying
their
their
proposal,
saying
why
they
were
late
and
why
they
should
be
given
some
consideration.
I
E
Yeah,
I
know
I
think
I
get
what
you
mean.
I
think
you're
saying
that
there
could
be
like
a
hardship
or
something.
So
it's
kind
of
my
point
more
was
that
I
feel
like
martin,
wasn't
given
any
real
notice
of
being
docked
for
his
delayed
proposal.
So
if
we're
going
to
apply
this
to
martin,
you
know
basically,
it's
unfair
if
we
apply
a
rule
that
we're
making
up
basically
inconsistently,
and
so
I
feel
like
everyone
should
have
noticed
for
their
future
proposals
that
you're
going
to
be
docked.
E
Regarding
you
know
we
could
we
can
make
that
a
rule,
but
I
think
everyone
needs
to
be
aware
of
that
rule,
and
it
should
be
something
that
people
have
an
opportunity
to.
You
know
follow
the
rule.
You
know
so
in
that
sense
I
agree
with
you
cole.
If
that's
the
reason
for
docking
martin's
pay
or
whatever,
I
think
it
would
make
sense
for
this
to
be.
You
know
a
specific
circumstance
case-by-case
thing.
F
Of
my
point,
but
on
the
topic
of
late
proposals
like
in
my
mind,
I'm
not
even
sure
what
that
means,
because
we
have
contributors
like
like
nico
nylon
like
we
have
many
contributors
that
have
been
contributing
for
a
very
long
time
and
there
is
no
such
thing
as
a
late
proposal
for
them
like
like
we.
We
want
people
to
contribute
to
doubt
the
dx
dow
in
many
different
ways
and
then
ask
for
like
recognition
and
compensation
afterwards,
like.
I
think
that
that
is
okay.
F
C
I
myself
I'm
not
agreeing
with
this,
because
it's
it's
a
real
issue
and
the
main
issue
is
that
these
kind
of
people-
we
don't-
have
a
proposal
out
there.
They
can
just
drop
any
moment,
and
I
don't
think
this.
You
know
I
had
like
several
drops
and
it
doesn't
prevent
you
for
people
to
job.
But
somehow,
if
you
have
a
proposal
out
there,
which
is
two
months,
you
have
like
something
who
is
like
a
binding
contract
and
then
at
least
you
have
like
the
yeah,
you
have
you
you.
C
C
C
It's
not
it's
not
that
maybe
proposes
a
hard
work,
but
people
should
like
you
know
it's
not
a
hobby.
The
thing
is,
if
you,
if
you
do
it
like
this,
then
it's
just
not
a
side
gig
or
a
hobby.
Somehow
you
work
for
free,
and
this
also
okay,
as
I
I
think
it's
okay,
but
what's
difficult
about
this-
is
that
people
should
at
least
say
what
their
hobbies
and
what
they
feel
responsible
for.
This
would
be
even
even
if
they
don't
if
they
don't
want
to
get
paid.
You
know.
G
Yeah,
I
agree
100,
I
think
product
managers
they
they
got
punished
because
they
might
have
like
hobbyists
working,
who
can
decide
every
day
every
hour
to
just
drop
and
don't
come
back.
That's
an
issue
if
you
actually
put
important
tasks
or
like
yeah,
basically
asking
people
to
make
important
tasks
like
especially
like
in
the
like
looking
into
the
future.
If
some
hobbyist
is
actually
committing
to
maintaining
infrastructure
and
then
he's
actually
not
committed
to
because
he
doesn't
have
any
contract
with
the
d.
G
So
that's
a
huge
bottleneck
and
it
sounds
like
that
can
work.
But
at
the
end
of
the
day
I
I
think
the
geeksdale
is
taking
bigger
risk
by
having
hobbyists
join
hobbyists
can
join
but,
like
I
think
there
should
be
like
a
signal
proposal
where
they
like
actually
like
signal
that
there
there
might
be
hobbies
now,
but
potentially
in
the
future.
They
will
like
properly
join
as
like
a
true
member.
J
I
think
what
sky
is
describing
is
an
important
mode
for
us
to
operate
in.
You
know
for
certain
types
of
work,
it's
a
great
way
for
people
to
get
started.
It's
a
great
way
for
people
to
make
small
contributions,
but
I
think
when
it
comes
to
leadership
positions,
you
know
security,
critical
infrastructure
like
smart
contracts
that
are
going
to
be
handling
millions
of
dollars
like
having
clear
commitments
from
the
contributor
and
a
clear
relationship
to
the
external
is
just
you
know.
It's
just
necessary.
D
Also
guys
how
much
time
it
takes
to
create
a
proposal
for
next
life,
how
much
time
and
money
it's
only
30
minutes.
One
dollar
you
can
spend
every
two
months
to
share
on
what
you
have
been
working
on
to
get
on
chain
validation
by
rep
holders
is,
is
not
that
hard,
which
should
be
encouraging
everyone
to
get
on
chain
validation.
That
is,
that
is
where
that
is
where
we
live
on
doubt
talk
is
awesome.
It's
a
great
forum
like
you
can
talk
in
kiwi.
D
You
can
talk
with
your
with
the
rest
of
the
excerpts,
but
unchecked
validations.
If
what
matters
it,
it
is
everything
there.
Everyone
can
vote
up
there.
So
it's
just
it's
not
that
much
time.
D
Go
there
create
a
proportion
to
whatever
you
you're
working
on
share
it
before
and
and
that's
it
they
start
to
start
getting
some
variation
on
what
we
are
working
on,
because
we
are
very
open.
Okay,
a
lot
of
work.
We
have
a
lot
of
things
to
do
and
we
want
to
work
right,
but
we
need
to
be
cross-validated
on
this
and
it's
not
a
lot
of
time.
D
D
I
mean
I
love
to
propose
that
that
is
awesome
getting
on
chain
validation
on
your
work.
That
does
kick
us.
I
mean
you,
you
never
get
on
chain
validation
on
any
real
work.
Yeah.
What
we
are
doing
is
is
is
quite
awesome
like
the
the
way
we
are
handling
ourselves
so
get
it
on
chain
variation.
Everything
I
mean
being
able
to
put
on
you
on
your
on
your
cv
that
you
have
been
working
on
the
excel
and
this
all
the
properties.
Don't
change.
That's
quite
badass.
K
Just
to
share
some
thoughts
from
my
side
quickly
as
well.
You
know,
first
of
all,
I
know
how
hard
it
can
be,
especially
in
europe
as
well
with
the
whole
taxation
stuff
to
actually
work
for
a
dao,
so
that
obviously
adds
a
layer
of
complexity,
but
I
also
completely
agree
with
augusta
right,
like
people
should
still
submit
proposals
on
chain
in
the
future,
and
you
could
just
delay
the
payment.
K
Perhaps
you
know,
but
that
way
we
would
also
have
a
kind
of
an
idea
of
the
liabilities
or
how
much
money
the
dow
own
owes
people
right,
because
even
right
now
we
don't
really
know
how
much
we
owe
certain
workers,
which
also
is
a
bit
difficult
on
the
accounting
or
treasury
side.
So,
especially
if
people
are
having
tax
issues
right,
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
idea
to
just
do
the
proposal
with
the
payment
amounts
get
it
approved,
but
just
delay
the
payment
until
tax
issues
have
been
resolved.
E
Right,
so
I
think
we
can
discuss
organizationally
like
going
forward
like
where
we
bounce,
because
I
actually
completely
agree
with
gusto
that
I
think
we
need
to
lean
towards
on
chain
everything
we
keep
referencing
documentation.
We
have
that's
been
voted
on
chain
because
we
at
least
know
that
there's
like
a
validation
or
a
dow,
that's
like
where
we
all
start
as
an
organization.
E
Obviously,
signal-based
on-chain
proposals
aren't
as
strong
as
like
protocol-based
on-shade
proposals,
but
we're
using
it,
and
it's
helping
us
function
actually
very
nicely
as
far
as
having
a
point
of
reference
for
what
we
all
at
least
agree
on.
But
this
is
a
where
you
know.
This
is
a
long
kind
of
a
unique
situation
right
now
that,
where
I
feel
like
there's
just
a
lot
of
you
know
assumptions
and
and
assumed
actions
where
we
you
know
now
are
realizing
that
hey.
Maybe
what
should
we
pay?
Martin?
E
Basically,
for
his
time,
I
think
we
need
to
do
what's
like
equitable
and
fair
as
an
organization,
because
you
know
you
quickly
turn
in
you
know
we
have
other,
as
people
brought
up
with
other
workers
who
haven't
put
in
proposals,
and
I
don't
want
this
to
turn
into
a
popularity
contest
when
other
people
come
around
and
there's
no
mention
of
a
late
proposal
or
something
like
that.
E
We
have
to
go
through
this
whole
thing
again,
so
we
either
need
to
figure
out
like
a
way
to
look
at
this
like
hey,
he
has
an
implicit
contract
he's
been
coming
to
work
every
day.
By
the
way,
I
think,
there's
a
huge
difference
between
someone
who
lies
to
the
dow
about
completing
tasks
or
says
that
they're
working
full-time
when
they're
not
versus
someone
who's
coming
in
every
day,
trying
their
best
and
though,
for
whatever
reason,
can't
get
it
done
because
of
the
world
how
it
works.
E
So
you
know
there's
there's
factors
here
that
I
think
favor
martin,
despite
the
things
that
he
should
have
done
right
had
he
done
it
again
and
it
would
be
good
for
us
to
recognize
our
you
know.
The
holes
in
our
own
infrastructure
and
try
to
clog
those
holes
going
forward
but
try
to
move
forward
with
with
this
feeling
like
we,
we
did
the
the
right
thing,
and
I
know
that
also
means
our
our
obligation
to
dxd
holders.
But
if
anyone
has
any
kind
of
like
counter
counter
for
martin,
that
would
be
great.
A
Yeah,
I
just
want
that
one
thing
there
was
some
discussion
also
about
whether
mesa
is
going
the
right
direction
and
stuff
like
that,
and
I
think
in
general,
like
we
don't
have
that
much
accountability
and
for
other
projects,
whether
we
are
going
in
the
right
direction,
whether
you
know
we're
making
good
decisions-
and
I
think
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
You
know,
and
squad
leaders
in
general
have
like
more
impact
on
where
the
product
is
heading
and
I
think
we
need
to
kind
of
start
looking
more
closely
like
where
we're
going.
B
And
even
just
to
think
about
that,
violet
like
what
is
the
on-chain
validation
for
that
right
like
or
how
can
we
kind
of
make
sure
that
conversation
about
where
the
products
are
going
and
where
things
are
are
headed
also
has
is,
is
you
know
maintaining
close
sync
with
chain
governance.
A
Yeah,
I
think
kpis
are
a
great
way
to
do
that,
like
having
some
metrics
that
we
agree
on
that
to
be
like
okay,
so
product
is
successful.
If
we
have,
I
don't
know
this
many
users
we
have.
I
don't
know
for
swap
swapper
this
many
people
using
it
this
much
in
liquidity,
pools
and
just
determining
for
every
product.
What
it
is
you
know,
because
I
don't
think
like,
for
example,
just
if
you
have
more
features,
you
know
if
you're
pushing
more
features
on
omen
or
a
swapper
that
doesn't
make
it
more
successful.
A
L
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up
because
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
about
the
feature
set
that
mesa
is
intended
to
have
and
whether
it
will
be
competitive
with
all
the
other
products
that
are
very
similar
and
martin
I'd.
Ask
you
a
question
about
that
about
what
are
the
the
differentiators
that
will
make
mesa
better
than
all
the
other
products?
I
don't
know
if
you
saw
that
it
was
on
the
forum
a
few
days
ago.
C
I
answer
this
so
now
and
I
I
don't
think
this
yeah,
you
know
I
I
had
like.
I
was
much
under
pressure,
the
last
few
days.
Of
course
you
know
I
didn't
take
this
lightly.
You
know
I
had
sleepless
nights
all
this
kind
of
stuff,
but
I
was
thinking
because
one
of
the
feedback
has
been
yeah.
You
don't
think
you
don't
have
to
invest.
You
don't
think
in
the
sense
of
the
investor.
This
was
one
thing
I
heard
you
know.
I
talked
to
many
many
of
you
in
the
background
and
some
told
me
yeah.
C
Just
you
know:
try
to
target
people
who
gave
us
money
and
then
they
should
come
to
a
call
and
ask
that
that
the
sport
leaders,
what
the
product
is,
what
it
should
be,
how
how
they
think
they
can
be
successful
and
all
this
kind
of
stuff,
because
I
think
we
need
a
close
relationship
to
our
investors
somehow
because
yeah,
it's
true
at
the
end,
they
gave
us
money
and
we
tried
to
make
products
for
them.
Not.
C
Of
course
we
make
also
in
a
way
we
make
products,
because
it's
the
it's
the
it's
the
core
of
the
dig
style
to
make
a
product,
but
we
do
it
for
the
investment
to
be
successful,
and
I
think
we
should
give
have
this
voice
much
more.
You
know
christopher
sometime
has
been
on
the
call
and
his
feedback,
even
if
it
has
been
disputed
sometime,
I
think,
has
been
quite
good
because
it's
like
an
outside
view
and
what
we
miss.
We
only
see
our
own
stuff
and,
of
course
you
can.
C
H
You
know
we're
having
this
token
cell
platform
that
will
create
liquidity
for
swapper
pools
and
it
it's
not
hard
to
find.
You
know
a
reason
to
believe
in
its
future
and
it's
what
what
you
make
of.
It
is
what
you
want
to
make
of
it,
and
so
you
you
can
it's
unbelievable
for
me
to
hear
someone
argue
that
you
know
it's
something
we
we
shouldn't
do
at
all
like.
I
don't
think
that's
even
the
the
question
here.
L
And
so
so
nathan,
the
question
I
was
asking
is
I'm
trying
to
understand
what
the
the
features
are?
I'm
not
saying
there
aren't
any
I'm
just
asking
what
specifically
is
going
to
be
better
about
aqua.
I
think
ross.
C
H
Yeah-
and
I
said
something
I
noticed
on
dow
talk,
you
know,
martin
never
pointed
fingers
at
any
other
team.
It
was
outsiders
could
up
there
who,
who
did
that,
for
example,
it
was
machina
who
who
started,
and
actually
he
wasn't
malicious.
B
With
his
intent,
I
think
we've
all
we've
all
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
that
dow
talk
thread,
so
I'm
familiar
with
it.
We
don't
need
to
probably
overlimit.
I
can,
I
think.
B
We
we
have,
I
think,
they're,
like
lots
of
discussions
on
like
the
strategic
direction
of
different
products
and
what
we're
kind
of
doing.
I
do
think
we
wanted
to
focus
this
more
on,
like
resolving
the
current
worker
proposal,
payment
situation
rather
than
dictating
the
future,
but
I
think
that's
like
an
important
conversation
to
have
so
I
just
kind
of
like
maybe
draw
the
conversation
back
to
like
what
are
like.
B
I
don't
know
next
steps
and
with
everything
with
next
steps,
as
we're
saying
is
on
chain
right
so
like
there
need,
there's
going
to
be
another
on-chain
action
or
that
would
be
kind
of
what
we're
we're
gearing
towards.
So
what
is
that
next?
On-Chain
action
that
we
want
to
work
towards
here
to
try
to
find
consensus.
G
Yeah,
so
I'm
not
pro
haircut
just
because
I
know
how
difficult
it
is,
as
a
product
manager
like
to
deliver
to
keep
the
team
together
and
actually
build
up
the
team.
It
was
easier
for
me
because
I
I
just
got
like
great
people
joined
like
I
just
lucker
martin
wasn't
that
lucky
and
I
know
how
like
I
know
I
would
be
in
the
same
situation.
If
I
wouldn't
be
just
it's
just
luck
like
I'm
just
lucky
here.
G
G
So
I
think
martin
shouldn't
have
a
haircut
on
his
salary
and
I
think,
like
I
would
vote
positive
about
his
proposal
like
past
proposals,
but
I
think
the
future
needs
to
be
decided
and
that's
I
I'm
not
sure.
If
that
is
part
of
this
call,
I
think
we
should
decide
what
like
what
about
the
past
salary
of
martin
now
like
get
some
signals
and
then
move
on
chain
and
actually
vote.
D
J
Said
like
we
need
to
be
equitable,
certainly
like
a
lot
of
our
actions
as
contributors,
you
know
gave
martin
like
the
sense
that
everything
was
okay
and
that
he
was
the
pm
lead
and
you
know
not
least
of
all
myself,
and
I
think
it's
only
you
know
fair
as
contributors
that
we
support
his
proposal
for
for
payment.
I
do
think,
there's
larger
questions
that
we've,
you
know
started
to
dive
into
that.
We
should
circle
back
to
because
they
are
very
important.
J
J
You
know
in
terms
of
what
we've
delivered
versus
what
we've
spent
and
I
think
that's
really
to
be
dealt
with
in
the
conversation
on
like
how
we
move
forward
right
and
and
how
we
make
adjustments
to
address
that.
But
in
terms
of
the
payment
thing,
I
totally
agree
that
martin
should
get
paid.
I
have
no
doubt
that
he
was
working
hard
and
has
the
the
best
intentions
so
yeah,
just
echoing
and
supporting
what
tammy
and
charlie.
B
And
thank
you
yeah.
I
mean,
I
think
it's
I
mean
what
is
it
skye
said
something
about
like
nothing
happens
until
it's
like
on
chain
right
and
like
even
with
like
this
and
it.
I
think
again
this
that
goes
back
to
what
augusta
was
saying
about.
Unchained
validation
like
we
all
take
the
blockchain
so
seriously
right,
and
it's
like
this
is
serious
stuff
we're
trying
to
build
like
a
you
know,
organization
and
and
there's
tough
subjects,
but
it
turns
out
like
the
only
forcing
mechanism
we
end
up.
B
Having
is
on
chain
actions,
and
I
think
it
like
you
know,
demonstrates
the
power
of
those,
but
I
think
the
key
for
like
geek
style
going
forward
is
like
how
can
we
let
those
on-chain
actions
like
kind
of
like
flow
through
flow
downstream,
into
like
a
culture
of
processes
and
things
that
are
kind
of
like
accepted,
and
we
do
naturally
but
kind
of
have
their
legitimacy
from
like
an
on-chain
source.
E
Yeah
I
agree
and
just
that
I
think
moving
forward.
We
do
need
to
find
moments
to
talk
about
these
uncomfortable
questions
about.
Are
we
going?
The
right
direction
with
the
product
is?
Is
the
right
person,
the
right
role
and
sometimes
things
you
know,
we're
all
very
busy
and
we
just
have
to
create?
You
know
opportunities
to
have
both
the
positive
conversations
and
the
uncomfortable
ones.
So
hopefully
we
can
do
that
in
like
the
least
stressful
way
possible
going
forward.
J
And
in
regards
to
the
unchained
actions,
you
know,
I
think
most
people
here
probably
know
that
I
down
staked
martin's
first
attempt
of
the
proposal.
The
reason
I
downstaked
it
just
to
be
clear
here
is
because
I
I
felt
like
it
hadn't
gotten
enough
discussion,
and
I
mean
I
think
the
forum
thread
kind
of
speaks
to
that.
I
was
probably
right
about
that,
but
I
would
not
downstate
you
know
now
that
we
have
had
a
chance
to
discuss
this
in
more
depth
and
surface
some
of
the
underlying
problems.
J
I
think
you
know
it
really
should
get
a
full
fair
on
shape
about
it.
I
would
not
be
downstating
personally
any
next.
C
So
my
suggestion
is,
I
will
put
up
because
the
proposal
is
like
the
sixth
month,
so
it
was
a
bit
old,
maybe
to
extend
it
to
the
seven
months,
but
this
is
like
the
outstanding
payment.
So
what
I
would
do,
I
would
do
one
vote
for
the
whole
amount
of
the
six
six
months,
just
as
stated
there
and
then,
if
that's
okay,
because
I
had
like
the
intention
to
make
like
one
every
week,
but
I
guess
this
was
just
to
yeah.
I
was
thinking
it.
It
fits
more.
C
If
I
make
a
bill
with
the
my
company,
it
fits
more
the
bill.
You
know
I
can
make
bill
for
every
two
months,
but
I
would
suggest
is
that
I
request
the
payment
for
the
six
months
and
then
we
move
on
with
the
rest,
how
it
is,
and
of
course
you
know-
I
didn't
work
the
last
few
days
because
yeah
because
of
this
mainly
and
I
have
been-
I
had
many
sleepless
nights
and
I
did
see
john
stepped
in.
He
tried
to
organize
some
work.
He
replaced
me
somehow
and
that's
that's.
C
I
think
that's
a
good
thing
and
I
think
we
should
discuss
how
we
move
forward
and
I'm
open
to
very
different
ways
to
move
forward,
and
I
I
work
the
whole
july
at
june.
So
yeah,
maybe
I
do
it
this
just
like
a
regular
payment
at
the
end
of
june.
I
deducted
at
the
end
of
july
I
deducted
hours,
I
didn't
work
and
then
the
days
had
involved
and
then
we
discussed
the
future
how
we
should
move
on.
B
And
I'm
just
because
we
there
were
some
kind
of
questions
here
about
it.
Do
we
need
to
like
like
what
yeah?
What
should
we
do
for
the
moving
forward
kind
of
component,
because
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity
where
we
are
talking
about
these
things
and
we
can
kind
of
like
plan
those,
so
I
don't
think
like.
Obviously
we
didn't
really
get
to
that
on
this
call,
but
that's
something
to
we.
Should
the
next
item.
J
Yeah
we,
I
guess
we
don't
have
time
now,
but
I
mean
I
think
there
are
plans
already
to
think
about
the
process
of
the
contributor
ux
call
today,
and
I
think
we
could
maybe
circle
back
in
future
governance
calls
about
the
process.
I
think
in
terms
of
how
aqua
is
moving
forward
and
martin's.
You
know
future
worker
agreement.
J
You
know
he
already
has
a
adult
talk
post
on
that
and
I
think
we
could
like
move
the
future
discussion
to
that
post,
and
I
I
would
also
just
add
that
I
think
that
none
of
this
should
really
change
the
extent's
ambitions
around
aqua.
I
think
the
capital
formation
is
a
huge
part
of
crypto
and
a
great
area
for
us
to
still
be
in
the
squad.
Has
you
know
handled
this
with
grace
and
determination
like
they
are
still
full
steam
ahead?
J
We
have
luckily
actually
had
a
firm
that
martin
chris
and
I
had
talked
to
a
couple
months
ago,
space
inch
came
forward
with
a
full
stack
developer,
who
seems
very
promising
and
is
jumping
in
to
help
aqua
out
as
nico
kind
of
transitions.
Out
of
the
extent.
I
don't
know
how
many
people
have
been
aware
of
that,
but
niko
is
moving
out
and
we
really
do
need
somebody
to
own
those
smart
contracts,
and
I
think,
there's
maybe
some
potential
here-
that
this
guy
daniel
from
station
will
do
that.
J
B
Liquidity,
dex
liquidity,
launch
prediction
markets.
I
mean
that
the
suite
is
it's
very
basic
and
I
think
we
can
feel
confident
about
like
skating
in
that
direction
and
you
know
we're
building
for
the
the
long
haul
here.
Those
are
good
strategic
lanes
to
be
in.
H
Cool
I
like
what
john
said
at
one
of
the
aqua
meetings,
which
was
very
hopeful
and
like
kind
of
boosted,
the
team.
You
know
when
you
look
at
mesa,
it
was
doing
10,
plus
10
million
plus
raises,
and
it
will
now
be
just
one
of
the
mechanisms
in
the
framework
that
aqua
will
be
and
one
can
only
dream
of
what
the
future
holds
for
it.
So
I'm
very
optimistic
and
I'm
glad
that
john
is
on
board.
B
If
it's
getting
bad
he's
gonna
say
aqua,
the
liquidity,
god
or
the
god
of
liquidity,
but
maybe
not
worth
a.
B
B
That's
it
aquaman
other
kind
of
thoughts,
as
we
kind
of
close
out
it
said
we'll
tease
the
contribute,
ux
call
think
about
some
of
these
things.
There's
also
the
compensation
guidelines
that
we're
trying
to
push
through
that,
I
think,
are
related
to
this.
It
will
we'll
go
through
those
things
and
also
zeal's,
like
kind
of
contractor
stuff.
I
think
that's
in
30
minutes,
but
any
other
kind
of
things
related
to
here.
M
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
say
something.
I
didn't
really
comment
very
much.
M
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
think
it's
you
know
very
courageous
that
you
were
able
to
come
onto
this
governance
call
and
you're
able
to
present
your
case
around
this
situation.
Martin,
I
know
that
it
was
tough
given
all
of
the
feedback
in
the
forum,
and
I
think,
for
this
reason
alone
proves
that
you
would
definitely
be
the
best
person
to
continue
to
lead
aqua
with.
M
That
being
said,
I
think
that
there
needs
to
be
more
clear
communications,
around
expectations
and
deliverables
for
aqua
and
for
any
other
squad
or
contributor
for
that
matter.
So
I
think
that
we
need
to
think
about
that
moving
forward,
something
that
I'm
definitely
going
to
be
thinking
about,
as
I
communicate
with
others
about
their
proposals
and
yeah.
So
I
just
wanted
to
thank
everybody
for
just
having
this
conversation
to
around
martin's
proposal
and
looking
forward
and
not
backwards
around
this
whole
thing.
L
So
I'm
a
little
confused
about
the
present
this
is
setting,
because
is
this
saying
like
okay,
you
can
not
have
a
proposal
and
work
for
six
months,
so
no
proposal
and
then
get
paid
for
any
excuse
me
for
anyone
or
are
we
saying
we're
doing
this
one
time
and
then
that's
it
we're
not
doing
this
again.
You
have
to
have
a
proposal
that
hope
it's
the.
E
This
is
how
it's
happened.
It's
not
the
best
behavior
and
martin
is
aware
of
that.
But
what
can
you
do?
Sometimes
things
slip
through
the
cracks
right
and
so
we're
going
to
move
forward
to
at
least
make
sure
that
everyone
gets
a
proposal
and
especially
everyone,
who's,
working,
full-time
or
in
any
meaningful
way.
F
M
Yeah
definitely
I
mean
a
big
reason
why
I
was
brought
into
dxdow
and,
like
the
contributor
experience
was
established,
was
because
of
the
culture
around
proposals
I
mean
when
I
came
in
almost
everybody
was
late,
didn't
have
a
proposal
up
and
I
think
that
it
has
shifted
so
much.
I
think,
with
the
exception
of
martin,
everybody
has
been
kind
of
on
time,
and
you
know
at
least
has
something
in
progress,
and
you
know
tabs
are
definitely
being
taken
on
those
who
aren't.
So
I
think
cultures
is
shifting
around
this
for
sure.
J
I
mean
I
I
don't
want
to
like
forget
the
underlying
you
know,
obligation
we
have
to
ship
and
and
show
to
the
investors
that
we
are
being
responsible
here.
So
I
I
think
there
is
a
lot
of
conversation
that
still
needs
to
be
had,
but
that
the
right
place
to
do
that
is
kind
of
the
forward-looking
post
and
that
I
think,
we're
kind
of
clear
on
what
makes
sense
here.