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A
Welcome
to
geek
style
governance,
discussion
for
wednesday
january
19th,
1600
utc,
let's
start
first
and
foremost
with
the
proposal
roundup,
a
pretty
active
week,
set
up
proposals
on
all
of
the
chains
there.
Let
me
get
my.
A
Okay,
so
starting
first
on
mainnet,
we
have
a
couple
different
proposals.
I
should
be
familiar
to
every
everyone
here.
The
first
one
is
submitted,
it
should
be
set
to
pass
in
two
days
is
funding
the
gas
governance
refunds.
So
this
is
the
refunds
for
mainnet
transaction
maintenance
governance
transactions
in
q4.
So
you
can
see
it's
about
6
8,
so
about
18
000
in
terms
of
the
cost
of
running
governance
on
main
net
there.
A
So
anyone
that
has
interacted
with
geeked
out
governance
in
q4
should
be
due
for
a
refund.
So
this
is
whether
you
submit
a
proposal.
Voter
no
proposal
states
on
a
proposal
executed
a
proposal
and
there's
details
for
when
this
proposal
passes
in
two
days.
There's
details
for
how
to
actually
claim
your
reward
there.
A
A
And
then
there
are
two
different
proposals
that
are
pending:
boosting
one
is
a
dxd
buyback
extension
number
five,
so
this
is
submitted
by
d
labs
by
dave
here,
nothing
too
out
of
the
ordinary
there's,
some
updates
on
terms
of
the
average
price
and
then
the
total
amount
on
purchase.
You
can
see
it's
8680
there
and
yeah
like
the
last
one.
This
is
a
305
east
transfer
to
that
actually
include
the
proposal
itself
actually
includes
those
funds.
A
So
when
this
proposal
passes,
the
multisig
will
transfer
these
funds
directly
to
the
gp
relayer
on
nurses
chain
and
then
proposals
will
be
able
to
be
executed
through
there.
So
yeah.
As
I
said,
this
is
just
boosted
this
morning
and
yeah
when
that
pass
will
pass
in
eight
days
from
today,.
A
And
then,
next
up
on
mainnet,
we
also
have
another
pre-boosted
proposal.
This
one
is
submitted,
I
believe,
by
someone
at
hats
finance.
So
but
this
was
this
is
a
proposal
to
fund
the
hats,
finance
dxd
vault.
So
this
was
discussed
last
week.
It
has
been
on
the
forum
for
several
months.
So
just
a
reminder
here:
dx
ventures
actually
invested
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
into
hats
in
september
2021,
and
the
relationship
with
geeks
dow
goes
back
a
bit
further
than
that
too.
A
So
we've
been
kind
of
working
with
them.
We
had
actually
passed
a
signal
proposal.
I
believe
in
july,
about
setting
up
a
vault
and
then
there's
actually
already
a
dxd
fall
set
up
there,
and
so
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know
the
hats
is,
I
think
they
call
it
a
decentralized
cybersecurity
incentive
network.
So
it's
a
way
for
hackers
and
security
researchers
to
disclose
potential
vulnerabilities
or
bugs
in
a
confidential
and
secure
manner
and
be
rewarded
for
that.
A
A
That
multi-sig
committee,
I
think,
is
what
they
call
are
responsible
for
determining
whether
or
not
a
bug
or
security
disclosure
is
valid
and
they're
releasing
some
of
those
rewards,
and
you
know
core
to
incentivizing
these
security
researchers
to
look
at
the
geek
style
contracts
is
to
make
sure
that
there's
actually
a
sizable
amount
of
incentive
or
reward
to
do
so
so
right
now,
there's
I
think
47
zxt,
which
is
just
over
25
000
dollars.
That's
in
the
hats,
dxd
vault
now.
A
So
this
is
the
incentive
for
someone
to
look
and
examine
any
bugs
or
vulnerabilities
in
deep
dallas
contract.
A
But
this
proposal
would
deposit
an
additional
790
txd,
which
I
think
is
about
460
000
into
the
hats,
finance
vault,
so
that
then
this
would
be
just
under
yeah
hundred
thousand
dollars,
which
would
increase
the
amount
of
or
increase
the
incentive
to
security
researchers
to
look
at
any
vulnerabilities
or
any
potential
issues
with
dx
dow's
contracts.
And
additionally,
since
this
is,
you
know,
hats
is
just
starting
out.
A
It's
also
will
soon
turn
on
what
they're
calling
protocol
protection
mining
and
that's
basically
just
a
incentive
program
for
those
that
do
deposit
tokens
into
hats
vaults,
so
presumably
the
790
dxd
that
deep
down
will
be
depositing
into
this
vault,
in
addition
to
being
an
incentive
or
reward
for
security
researchers
to
look
at
deep
stats
contracts,
it
would
also
be
a
way
where
geeksdale
could
earn
hats
tokens
by
depositing
them
in
there.
A
So
yeah.
This
proposal
actually
sends
the
dxd
so
790
txd,
and
it
sends
it
to
the
multisig,
the
multisig,
which
is
also
the
multisig
that
is
actually
administering
or
the
actual
committee,
the
hats
committee
itself
and
so
they'll
deposit
those
funds
there
yeah.
So
that's
kind
of
this
proposal.
We've
been
talking
about
a
bit
there's
a
bunch
of
different
teams
involved.
They
were
on
then
I
don't
know
if
john
nylon
or
any
anyone
else
wanted
to
add
anything
here.
C
I
think
that
was
like
a
great
recap
actually
and
yeah
I
mean
there's
like
a
bunch
of
partnerships
coming
up
and
I
think
and
they're
doing
fairly
well
and
exciting.
I
don't
have
at
least
that
was
a
part
of
it.
A
Yeah
and
then
just
shows
you
that
they
don't
know,
this
is
kind
of
what
they
what
it
looks
like
here
and
the
other
projects
that
are
involved
here.
So
I
do
think
geeksdale
will
be
one
of
the
largest
or
probably
the
largest,
depending
if
there's
any
others,
but
I
think
there's
going
to
be,
as
they
said
on
the
monday,
biz
dev
call.
There
should
be
some
other
partners
that
they'll
be
rolling
out
soon.
Here
too,.
A
Yeah,
so
on
gnosis
chain
we
have
a
couple
different
proposals
a
year
as
I
just
like
to
point
out.
Without
going
through
each
of
them.
There
are
four
different
buyback
proposals
that
are
ongoing
right
now.
I
think
110
actually
passes
in
just
a
couple
of
minutes
here
and
then
there's
three
more
running
there.
So
dave's
been
really
doing
a
great
job
of
cranking
these
out.
A
So
now
that
we
also
have
the
buyback
extension
number
five
that's
going
up,
then
we'll
be
able
to
move
forward
with
additional
proposals
going
forward
there.
So
I'm
feeling
good
about
that.
A
The
other
proposals
that
are
up-
I
guess,
the
actual-
the
eth
denver
stipend-
actually
already
already
passed
now
that
I
think
about
it.
But
there
are
the
gnc
swapper
epoch,
8
and
epoch
9
funding
proposals.
So
this
is
just
the
funding
proposal
and
I
guess
keenan.
Is
it
correct
to
say
that
multisig
is
setting
up
these
campaigns.
D
Yes,
there's
also
a
bonus
funding
campaign
for
hopper
hopr
that
did
already
pass.
There
was
a
bit
of
a
mishap.
This
proposal
was
superseded
by
another,
so
we
had
to
reboost
it
so
it'll
be
passing.
I
think
later
tonight,
for
me.
So
I'll
have
to
probably
start
a
bit
earlier
tomorrow
and
get
those
through
or
I'll
just
get
the
call,
data
ready
and
I'll
need
some
signers
in
the
morning
tomorrow.
A
Got
it-
and
I
guess
just
as
it's
like
a
housekeeping
thing,
I'm
guessing
is
like
when
you're,
if
you're,
boosting
someone's
other
proposal-
and
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
that
are
in
the
pending
boost-
it's
always
best
to
boost
the
ones
with
the
least
amount
of
gen,
because
that
doesn't
upset
the
order,
if
you're
just
kind
of
being
a
nice
friendly
governance.
Neighbor,
that's
a
nice
way
to
do
it,
but.
A
Yeah
and
then
there
is
boar
spot
contributor
proposal,
so
this
is
from
the
new
one
starting
the
new
year.
Also
under
the
the
new
compensation
guidelines
here,
and
then
we
have
the
atlantis
world
grant
proposal
which
is
just
resubmitted
here.
A
I
guess
right
there
revmiller.eth,
and
so
this
was
a
proposal
was
actually
up
last
week
was
set
to
pass
until
I
think
six
or
seven
hours
before
when
the
atlantis
world
team
realized
that
it
was
actually
being
sent
to
a
mainnet
smart
contract
address
that
they
were
would
not
be
able
to
access
on
gnosis
chain.
So
there
were
some
last
voting
against
for
that
one
there,
and
then
this
is
a
resubmission
of
that.
A
I
think
same
proposal
there,
and
so
this
is
yeah
forty
thousand
x
die
grant
along
with
a
commitment
for
another
ten
thousand
dollars
in
carrots.
There,
too,.
A
All
right
and
then
on
to
arbitron
one
we've
got
some
activity
there,
where
ross.
Actually
all
of
the
harbor
during
campaigns
are
being
done
through
dx
vote.
Venky
has
been
been
doing
this
and
kind
of
has
that
there,
so
we
know
we
kind
of
function
it
there.
So
I
think
there
are.
A
You
can
count
them
here,
one
two,
three,
four:
five:
six:
seven,
eight,
nine
ten,
eleven
twelve
campaigns
that
are
proposals
that
are
that
were
on
arbitrary
and
then
actually,
but
the
usdc
usdt
proposal
is
actually
incorrect
and
should
not
be
voted
on
here.
But
these
are,
I
guess,
the
11
campaigns,
and
this
is
combining
epochs,
10
or
11.
So,
rather
than
just
be
for
two
weeks.
A
These
proposals
are
for
four
weeks,
so
they'll
start
tomorrow
at
1500
utc
and
then
run
to
february
17th
kind
of
right
in
the
middle
of
eat
denver.
But
those
are
the
the
arbitrary
proposals
and
I
think,
there's
some
feverish
chatting
going
on
in
the
chat
about
making
sure
there's
swapper
on
arbitrary
for
this,
but
I
think
we're
going
to
be
set.
A
A
A
This
is
something
we've
been
doing
a
couple
times.
Lately
there
was
one
I
think
that
there
was
an
issue
with
it
that
ross
is
going
to
explain
here
now.
I
need
to
find
this.
E
Yeah,
this
is
the
rare
registration
of
the
quick
wallet
scheme
1.1,
because
when
it
was
registered
we
well,
I
initialize
it
without
the
option.
To
I
mean
with
the
option
to
do
avatar
generic
course,
where
it
shouldn't
be
able
to
do
about
actionary
calls.
I
mean
you
cannot,
because
you
have
something
called
the
raw
controller
permissions
which
it
doesn't
allow
to
do.
Avatar
generic
calls
and
we
don't
have
to
do
it,
but
there
was.
E
On
the
initialization-
and
I
set
this
value
to
true
so
when
we
tried
to
set
the
permissions
from
the
scheme,
it
was
failing
and
we
realized
that
okay,
this
is
this
is
not
configured
properly
so
now
we
are
already
deploying
it
with
the
avatar
generic
course
to
false.
E
F
Yeah,
that's
a
pretty
good
summary
of
everything
there's
also
if
anyone
wants
to
follow
along
I've,
just
posted
a
an
explanation
of
everything,
that's
going
on
in
the
forum,
and
so,
if
you
take
a
look
there,
it
kind
of
explains
what
I
guess
was
just
said:
what
was
that,
with
the
original
1.0
version,
what
we
messed
up
with
the
deployment
and
then
the
steps
to
actually
verify
this
one?
F
F
A
Well,
just
for
a
clarification
on
so
gusto
this,
I
guess
you
could
do
avatar
generic
calls.
So
that
is
something
that
was
on
the
quick
wallet
scheme,
but
is
there
like
another
permission
that
needs
to
be
like
on.
F
E
If
you
want
to
develop
a
version
on
the
or
maybe
maybe
it's
now
on
the
latest
release,
or
maybe.
E
So
yeah
we
are
that
the
the
importance
of
this
value
quiz
is
because
this
says,
if
the
screen,
if
the
scheme
is
going
to
be
executing,
calls
from
itself
right,
for
example,
for
example,
I
know
sending
ether
from
the
scheme
or
tokens
from
the
scheme
or
calling
other
contracts
directly
from
the
schemes
or
if
it's
going
to
be
doing
what
the
contribution
reward
scheme
is
doing,
for
example,
is
making
calls
and
transfers
from
the
avatar.
So
this
is
a
very
important
value
and
we
set
it
to
to
true
on
the
quick
quality
scheme.
E
F
Yeah,
so
the
important
thing
you
can
see
just
at
the
very
bottom
there
is
so
it
says
yes
on
the
second
slide
down
on
the
params
hash
section,
so
it's
allowing
the
generic
calls
from
the
from
the
scheme
side
of
things.
However,
on
the
right
side,
where
the
controller
permissions
are,
it
actually
says
can't
make
generic
calls,
and
so
that's
the
kind
of
extra
layer
that
stopped
it
from
from
doing
anything
any
damage.
F
A
Concept
of
false-
and
that
was
I
guess
that
was
perfectly
answer
my
questions
because
I
was
like
I
can
see
that
the
scheme
wants
to
make
generic
calls
like
it's
trying
to
open
itself
up
to
that,
but
it
didn't
it
didn't,
get
permission
from
the
controller
to
actually
make
those
yeah.
That's
correct
has
like.
A
E
So,
which
is
good
because
it
was
failing
and
it
should
have
failed,
so
it
was
kind
of
I
mean
it.
Should
it
failed
like
it
should
have
failed.
So
this
raw
controller
permissions
works
because
we
say
you
cannot
make
all
from
the
avatar
and
when
it
tried
it
failed,
which
is
very
good
and
an
example
of
a
scheme
that
can
that
can
do
avatar
generic
course
is,
for
example,
on
arbitron,
on
on
on
the
arbitral
network,
we
have
the
master
world
scheme
and
the
registrar
award
scheme.
E
A
And
when
you
get,
how
do
you
get
controller
permission
to
make
a
generic
call?
Is
that
through
this
scheme
register
two
like
because
I
guess
that's
a
concern
is
like
if
you
have
a
malicious
scheme
or
something
they
are
going
to
like
try
to
get
installed
and
then
ask
the
controller,
I
guess
to
try
to
make
generic
calls
right.
So
where
are
we
at
kind
of
so.
F
We
can,
if
you
go
through,
I
guess
this
kind
of
goes
back
to
the
the
forum
post.
That
explains
this.
But
if
you
go
out
to
the
proposal,
that's
live
now,
I
can
explain
what
the
the
actual
like
parameters
and
the
calls
are
doing
if
you'd
like
yes.
So
if
you
expand
the
calls
with
the
magnifying
glass
just
to
see
a
lot.
E
E
This
is
how
the
controller,
the
control
permissions
by
alchemy
and
also
we
are
designed-
you
see
the
raw
controller
permissions
which
is
set
to
zero
x,
zero,
zero,
zero,
zero,
zero,
zero
zero
one,
which
means
that
the
scheme
is
on
a
register
and
if
you
have,
for
example,
the
last,
if
the
last
two
numbers
are
two
ones,
this
means
that
it
can.
It
is
registered
and
it
can
do
other
attraction
records.
So
you
have
four
permissions.
E
It
is
if
it
is
if
it
can
make
a
attraction
in
call
if
it
can
register
and
register
other
schemes
if
it
can,
if
it
can
mean
reputation
and
something
else,
change
constraints,
something
that
we
are
not
using.
So
this
is
actually
very
complex
and
we
are
not
using
it,
but
we
have
two
types
of
permissions:
the
ones
on
the
control
level
that
we
barely
use.
E
This
is
only
you
use
it
when
you
register
and
register
schemes
and
the
permission
layer
that
we
add
on
the
on
the
wallet
schemes
where
this
is
what
we
are
using
to
say:
hey.
You
can
transfer
this
token
to
any
address,
or
only
to
this
address
or
you
can
execute
this
function
or
this
on
this
smart
contract,
so
the
raw
permissions
we
are
barely
using
it.
This
is
very
important
to
check
when
you
register
and
register
schemes,
because
you
specify
what
the
scheme
can
do
on
this
lower
level
right.
A
Yeah
and
just
you
know,
taking
a
step
back
in
terms
of
the
matter,
it
is
important
to
have
eyeballs
on
these,
and
you
know
I
don't
I'm
someone
who
does
not
come
from
a
technical
background.
So
a
lot
of
this
is
very
confusing,
but
it
is
helpful
to
just
understand
how
it
works,
because
it
it
is
like
kind
of
talking
about
it
out
in
the
open,
makes
it
easier
to
catch
some
of
these
things
and
kind
of
understand
where,
where
we
need
to
be
monitoring
so
yeah,
it's
really
helpful.
A
I
think
I
always
like
the
verify
action
like
having
a
proposal
that
says
it's
going
to
do
something
and
then
being
able
to
put
instructions
in
that
proposal
to
say,
like
you
can
check
what
this
proposal
says
is
going
to
do
is
actually
doing
what
it,
what
it's
going
to
do,
and
I
think
that's
like
a
an
important
kind
of
precedent
to
have
for
for
these
governance
moves.
A
F
Yeah,
I
think
that's
I
mean
yeah,
it's
something
that
should
have
happened
also
earlier,
but
hopefully
this
will
line
up
well
and
we
can
start
using
it
for
conversation
with
the
new
guidelines.
A
E
F
A
Okay,
that's
it
for
proposal,
roundup.
Moving
on
to
the
discussion
items,
two
things
to
chat
about
today
and
then
a
contributor
ux
update
needed
yeah.
So
first
there
was
a
post
by
skye
last
week
about
increasing
deek
styles,
liquidity
on
gnosis
chain
into
swappers
or
sorry,
depositing
some
additional
liquidity
into
swapper
on
gnosis
chain.
A
A
couple
different
ideas
on
different
pools
to
go
after
and
then
I
think,
just
yesterday
put
forward
some
additional
ideas
really
trying
to
focus
specifically
on
the
weth
wx
die
pool
here
and
making
that
the
largest
pool
on
nose's
chain.
So
there's
an
interesting
discussion
there.
I
think
he's
proposing
to
put
2.3
million
dollars
worth
of
ethan
dye
into
swapper
on
gnosis
chain,
taking
that
from
the
east
and
die
and
the
magnet
treasury
and
so
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
open.
A
For
here
before
we
get
to
that
just
putting
some
numbers
around
the
lp
position
that
geeksdale
already
has
on
xdi,
so
it's
actually
1.74
million
dollars
in
lp
position
and
there
actually
has
been
a
small
profit
in
terms
of
a
return
from
the
fees
there.
Just
about
two
percent
there.
You
can
see
how
much
web
has
been
deposited
in
nexti
and
the
same
thing
for
usdc
and
nxti,
but
we've
actually
not
been
as
fortunate
on
the
web
dpi
and
with
wbtc
there.
A
But
I
think,
given
the
strategic
importance
of
the
web
x,
type
error
to
swapper
on
nostalgia
and
the
fact
that
it's
actually
gotten
returns,
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
try
to
move
forward
with
that.
That
would
probably
take
the
form
of
a
maintenance,
a
mainnet
proposal
that
would
send
the
funds
to
gnosis
chain
to
be
then
filled
in
by
teex
dao.
I
just
kind
of
two
questions
to
think
about
here,
so
this
would
be
a
2.3
million
deposit.
A
So
that's
about
3.8
percent
of
dxd
styles
non
dxd
stablecoin
assets,
so
it
would
be
a
pretty
big
chunk,
and
so
that
would
mean
that
the
the
swapper
web
x
die,
pool
itself
would
be
about
five
percent
a
little
over
five
percent
of
textiles
total
assets.
Again.
I
think
that
since
they're
chris.
H
A
H
That
this
is
like
touching
and
affecting
like
our
stable
coin
runaway
and
stuff,
but
it's
still
like
yeah
funds
that
we're
going
to
hold
we're
just
going
to
have
them
in
like
right
now,
they're
just
sitting
on
main
net
so
like
if
we
move
them
over
and
we're
and
we
the
eath
and
the
and
the
dye
are
both
just
sitting
on
mainnet.
We
have
them
already.
So
it's
not
like.
We
need
to
acquire
something
to
use.
It's
still.
A
Sorry
that
would
have
been.
Let
me
just
save
that
yeah,
so
that's
just
I
mean
I
think
there
is
some
potential
risk
to
like
you
know
in
permanent
loss
or
you
do
decrease
your
stable
coin
amount.
If
say,
eth
went
down
that
would
be
buying
eth
in
that
pool
and
maybe
that's
the
right
move
to
make,
but
that
would
potentially
decrease
the
number
of
stable
coins
in
the
treasury.
So
I
think
there
you
know
there
is
some
some
risk.
It
may
be
putting
it
over
there
just
in
terms
of
the
allocation
there.
A
So
I
think
that's
the
one
to
be
thinking
of,
but
it's
just
like:
where
does
it
come
from
so
there's?
Basically
there's
just
a
certain
amount
like
this
would
be
the
biggest
thing
we
kind
of
do
with
the
treasury
in
a
lot
of
ways,
and
then
second
is
like:
where
is
the
funding
coming
from
whether.
H
H
We
should
always
be
thinking
about
like
how
much
capital
we
have
there
and
so
there's
the
risk
of
something
going
wrong
with
gnosis
chain,
because
no
like
x
diagnosis
chain
is
gonna,
have
a
bunch
of
changes
in
the
next
like
six
months
as
the
merge
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
happens
so
like
there
is
a
risk
there
and,
like
you
could
say,
we
should
wait
and
see
how
gnosis
chain
ends
up
in
six
months.
But
this
is
still
you
know.
H
You
know
under
five
percent,
I
think
total,
maybe
under
six
percent
of
our
of
the
capital,
it's
on
a
chain
that
we've
been
using,
that
we
pretty
much
trust
and
we're
also
leaning
into
so
it's
not
like
we're
putting
30
percent
of
our
capital
there
right
we're
putting
a
total
of
like
something
like
five
percent.
So
I
think
that's
a
fair
thing.
The
the
bigger
proposal
the
higher
one
up
was.
H
I
actually
think
it
should
be
more
than
this
amount,
like
seven
million,
to
get
a
total
of
like
10
million
of
capital,
which
is
then
10
around
10
of
dx,
dallas
capital
being
and
being
involved
in
swapper
or
on
things
on
gnosis
chain,
but
that
doesn't
have
to
be
approved
like
we
don't
need
to
do
one
big
approval
for
the
full
amount
and
I
think
a
step-by-step
approach
makes
sense
and
as
we've
determined,
this
is
like
the
the
best
pair
to
start
with,
but
very
quickly.
H
I
think
we
should
come
up
with
two
or
three
other
pairs
that
we
really
think
we
could
own
and
and
would
get
us
attention
on
gnosis
chain
as
it
grows
and
picks
up.
Obviously
other
other
dexes
are
also
gonna
could
also
increase
and
stuff
so
like
this
could
put
us
to
the
highest
with
x,
die
pair.
But,
like
you
know,
all
of
a
sudden,
someone
could
add
10
million
dollars
to
sushi
swap
pool
and,
like
then,
we're
not
the
highest.
H
But
at
this
point
we
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen
to
other
dexes,
so
we
might
as
well
take
advantage
of
what
we
have
plus
we
have
the
0.25
fee.
So
I
think
that
actually,
like
really
gets
us
a
lot
of
trades.
That
would
come
from
one
inch
which
is
going
to
integrate
us
and
then
eventually,
hopefully,
cow
swap
and
then
also
the
echo
routing
from
honeyswap
and
and
and
whoever
else
would
use
that.
So
it
it's
a
step-by-step
approach,
and
I
think
we
don't
need
one
big
approval.
H
I
mean
we
could
do
a
signal
approval
that
we
want
to
move
this
direction.
But
this
proposal
that
we
would
do
this
week,
hopefully
like
at
least
put
up
as
a
proposal,
would
just
be
to
focus
on
this
first
pair
and
then
like
next
week
we
could,
or
in
the
next
couple
weeks
we
could
think
about
like
the
next
couple
or
two
or
three
pairs
to
to
try
to
focus
on
as
well,
but
we'll
also
learn
like
as
we
do.
It.
We'll
also
learn
live.
H
How
like
that,
we'll
get
the
data
on
what
it's
actually
doing
and
if
it's
working
and
if
it's
getting
more
attention
and
if
it's
getting
more
trade
volume
and
stuff
so
then
we'll
you
can
use
that
information
to
like
attack
other
pairs
as
well
and
the
whole
cool
thing
about
this
entire
thing
is:
we've
always
known
that
dx
now
has
its
own
capital,
especially
if
it's
using
its
capital
in
its
own
product
like
at
this
point,
the
swapper
token,
you
know
is
obviously
obviously
very
low.
The
market
cap's
very
low.
H
The
financial
incentive
that
it's,
that
of
farming
of
attracting
liquidity
is
not
really
happening.
It's
mainly
people
want
governance,
token
and
swapper,
and
so
they're
they're
farming
it
for
fun,
but
they're,
not
farming
it
for
the
money
right,
and
so,
if
we
can't
use
swapper
token
and
we're
going
to
redesign
we're
going
to
include
you
know,
single-sided
staking
we're
going
to
make
some
changes
for
upper
token.
H
This
is
almost
like
totally
separate.
This
is
a
way
to
like
help
swapper
a
lot
without
even
thinking
about
or
yeah.
We
should
almost
limit.
Maybe
the
swapper
or
try
to
you
know,
use
carrot
more
for
swapper
farming
or
something
until
swapper
token
price
like
like
becomes
somehow
higher
again,
and
this
is
like
a
way
to
get
that
attention
to
swapper
without
having
to
worry
about
swapper
token.
B
I
like
this
proposal
sky
and
thanks
for
the
recap,
and
chris
too,
and
just
one
more
comment
on
like
I
think
you
framed
it
pretty
well
in
terms
of
how
I
would
also
look
at
distribution
of
capital
and
like
the
risks
that
maybe
come
with,
you
know
different
chains
right
like
I
don't
think
we
could
trust
gnosis
chain
or
arbitrarium
at
the
same
level
that
you
trust
mainnet,
because
yeah,
because
they're
less
established,
less
decentralized,
etc.
B
The
other
thing
I
think
to
add
into
that
consideration
is
how
the
you
know,
even
though
it's
like
the
same
governance,
same
people
more
or
less,
there's
also
the
specific
governance
parameters
that
have
been
set
up
on
that
particular
chain
so
like
in
some
ways,
things
are
a
little
bit
less
like
you
know,
could
be
a
little
bit
looser
on
x
day.
Some
of
the
time
periods
are
a
little
bit
faster
and
stuff,
so
something
to
think
about
as
well.
B
I
think
you
know
specifically
once
this
is
in
swapper
the
main
concern
there
is
the
multi
call
like
generic
scheme,
so
maybe
take
another
look
at
our
parameters
there
and
just
make
sure
we
feel
good
about
that
before
we
go
ahead
with
larger
amounts,
but
overall
I
think
it
it's
a
great
idea
in
terms
of
like
the
swapper
farming.
Does
it
make
sense?
I
understand
that
you
know
there's
not
a
lot
of
value
being
issued
with
the
current
price,
but
where
are
we
in
term?
D
Maybe
I
can
quickly
chime
in
yeah.
We
did
this,
have
our
farming
sink
last
week
and
it
does
look
like
we
want
to
move.
I
don't
know
about
a
majority
but
definitely
move
in
the
direction
of
gnosis
chain.
We
were
thinking
of
a
little
bit
more
of
a
gradual
approach,
rather
than
a
full
out
move
over
the
next
couple
of
epochs.
For
this
epoch.
We
have
not
changed
the
allocation,
though
doing
a
bit
of
a
larger
move
on
the
next
epoch.
H
Yeah,
I
I
actually
don't-
I
mean
yeah,
we're
not
going
to
move
it
to
like
80
percent
right
gnosis.
I
don't
think
that
makes
sense,
and
I
don't
know
what,
like
the
total
value
of
is
swapper
like
what's
the
total
value
of
swapper
in
this
epoch.
Like
I
mean
I
don't
know
what
it
is
in
dollar
terms,
but
whether
you
made
it
like
20
or
40,
I
don't
think
that
that
is
actually
affecting
people's
behaviors
really.
So
we
need
to
yeah
think
about.
H
I
think
we
just
keep
it
as
is,
and
it's
really
like
we're
distributing
governance
tokens
I
mean.
Ideally
we
do
it.
We
use
some
carrots,
so
we
maybe
distribute
less
like
at
this
price.
If
we're,
if
people
aren't
taking
action
based
on
the
on
the
swapper
token,
you
almost
want
to
give
out
as
little
as
possible
right
unless
you're
giving
it
to
people
that
will
practice
good
governance.
And
then
then
it's
really
like
a
governance
distribution.
It's
not
a
fight.
The
financial
part
doesn't
matter,
but
yeah.
B
Yeah,
if
there's
not
much
being
gained
like
I,
I
feel
like
yeah-
that's
a
discussion
to
maybe
reduce
rewards
faster
or
in
general,
but
even
with
like
a
lower
value.
Even
if
it's
not
making
a
big
impact
in
the
tvl
on,
I
was
saying,
I
still
think
it
would
make
sense
to
kind
of
be
consistent,
though,
with
the
distribution
just
from
a
percentages
standpoint
of
where
the
swapper
is
being
allocated
and
by
consistent
I
mean
like.
A
B
The
heavy
waiting
to
arbitrage,
I
think,
was
going
along
with
this
kind
of
which
I
still
agree
with
in
principle.
Right,
though,
we
wanted
to
focus
on
layer
twos,
and
we
made
a
push
to
launch
an
arbitration.
H
So
the
one
thing
would
be:
you
know
when
there's
experiments
like
you,
don't
want
to
change
all
the
variables
at
once
so
like
for
this
epoch,
which
we
can
we
can
learn
from
if
we,
if
we
leave
the
epoch
as
is
and
at
twenty
percent,
and
we
only
change
the
actual
dx
dial
capital
that
goes
into
swapper
on
nurse's
chain,
we'll
really
be
able
to
measure
for
like
the
next
two
or
I
guess
four
weeks
we'll
be
able
to
measure
if
it's
changing
activity
on
swapper,
which
would
be
a
really
valuable
insight.
H
D
And
I
think
it's
realizing
change
one
just
realizing.
I
wasn't
completely
clear
on
why
this
epoch
doesn't
have
the
change.
The
discussion
that
we
had
last
week
was
kind
of
revolving
around
funding,
not
enough
accessible
funds
to
make
the
change
that
we
wanted
to
make,
and
we
also
thought
it'd
be
nice
to
involve
the
swapper
community
token
holders.
C
H
Yeah,
so
if
people
like
this,
we
can,
we
can
move
a
proposal.
You
know
this
week
with
this
and
and
really
what
we
should
try
to
spend.
A
lot
of
time
figuring
out
is
what
other
pairs
and
those
can
be
pairs
that
already
exist
on
gnosis
chain,
but
really,
I
think
those
can
be
pairs
that
maybe
aren't
on
osu's
chain.
Yet
that
could
be
the
trickiest
part.
With
that
thing
with
that
thing
is
what
we've
experienced
with
dpi
and
the
other
example
chris.
H
Where
we've
lost
is
we
actually
went
out
and
bought
dpi
and
like?
We
only
did
that,
basically
to
put
liquidity
on
swapper
and
we
didn't.
We
didn't
do
it
as
like
a
strategic
partnership
with
bankless
or
not
sorry,
index
co-op
or
dpi,
whoever
created
dpi
index
co-op
and
so
yeah.
H
If
we
were
going
to
like
really
focus
on
the
gnosis
weth
pool,
because
the
other
two
bigs
are
gnosis
x
dipoles
and
we
have
a
gnosis
wet
pool,
which
we
think
is
actually
a
really
attractive
pool
for
lps
and
then
also
traders
like,
if
we
really
want
to
dominate
that,
we
have
so
we'll-
probably
have
some
gno
but
like
then
we
might
need
to
acquire
some
more
gno
and
then
there's
different
ways.
You
can
do
that.
H
A
Yeah
just
to
like
frame
what
you're
saying,
I
think,
there's
like
a
category
of
things
of
pairs
of
liquidity
of
things
we
already
have
and
that's
a
pretty
big
bucket,
like
I
think,
obviously
like
the
fx
style.
We
have
you
mentioned,
but
I
think
we
should
also
look
next
at
the
gno
one,
particularly
because
there's
a
there's,
not
a
gno
weft
pair
really
on
those
chain,
they're,
mostly
xdi,
and
since
we
already
have
that
gno.
I
think
that
could
be
worth.
A
Treasury
assets-
I
think
rye
ens-
are
also
potentially
candidates
for
this.
That
we
can,
we
can
think
about
and
then
there's
a
separate
category
of
tokens
that
put
providing
liquidity
for
them
does
provide
additional
more
risk
because
we
have
to
go
out
and
actually
acquire
them,
and
I
think,
as
you
said,
because
it
requires
more
decision.
A
I
think
we
should
be
a
little
bit
slower
with
that
and
maybe
focus
our
efforts
on
the
ones
that
we
already.
A
Decide
which
ones
of
those
we
want
to
deploy
and
then
for
the
the
ones
that
we're
taking
a
risk.
I
think
we
should
be
thinking
of
more
out-of-the-box
ideas
on
maybe
almost
how
to
like
sponsor
that
liquidity,
especially
for
new
projects
that
are
just
looking
to
get
started.
Is
there
a
way
where
deek
style
could
kind
of
like
invest
a
little
in
in
the
project
and
buy
some
tokens,
but
really
the
benefit
is
trying
to
track
aquatic
liquidity
to
swap
her
but
yeah.
H
H
So
why
are
people
maybe
sushi's
getting
it
through
like
like
two
two
pool
trades
or
whatever,
but
we
also
if
we
yeah,
we
need
to
decide
if
we
want
that,
one
to
be
bigger
and
if
we
wanted
to
change
the
fee
like
because
we
can
make
like
a
0.05
fee
or
something
right
and
sushi
can't
do
that.
H
B
I
think
lots
to
discuss
here.
I
think
we
could
revisit
the
dxd
liquidity
from
the
treasury
because
I
think
there's
arguments
for
why
you
do
want
to
deepen
that
liquidity,
even
though
you
know.
Obviously,
the
argument
against
is
the
current
price.
So
I
think
that
you
know
chris
was
already,
I
think,
kind
of
teeing
up
more
discussion
about
that.
B
So
that's
something,
and
then
you
know,
I
think
chris
sort
of
alluded
to
something
like
this
as
well,
but
like
ondo,
finance
and
like
ways
to
kind
of
spawn
like
I
don't
know
how
to
describe
maybe
sponsoring
liquidity
where
they
are
basically
providing
one
side
and
like
native
projects
providing
another
site
and
there's
like
some
fee
involved
and
so
dx
now
may
be.
Maybe
a
more
effective
way
of
attracting
capital
versus
like
yield.
B
Farming
might
be
to
look
at
kind
of
participating
that
in
in
that
in
some
way,
whether
that's
like
sharing
some
of
the
cost,
maybe
providing
some
of
the
other
side
of
the
capital
as
well.
And
then
I
also
like
the
idea
of
for
the
right
projects
exploring
a
txt
token
swap
with
that
particular
project
like
something
like
gnosis,
I
think,
might
be
a
good
candidate
for
that
approach.
Where
you
know
you
look
at
the
gnosis
treasury,
it's
absolutely
massive
and
they
have
a
lot
going
on.
B
So
it's
like
the
token
swap
itself,
maybe
achieve
some
strategic
goals
of
you
know
creating
alignment
with
gnosis
and
I
don't
think,
gives
like
a
very
much
exposure
to
like
risk
of
them
dumping
the
token
at
least
they
would
not
really
have
any
reason
to
do
so
for,
like
actual
like
runway
costs,
but
yeah
interesting
stuff,
to
explore.
A
Yeah
and
I
think
almost
like
the
way
that
we've
been
looking
at
farming
as
like
calibrating
our
approach.
This
is
probably
something
we
should
think
about
with
the
liquidity
that
we're
not
just
talking
about
this
now,
but
it's
something
where,
as
an
ongoing
process
kind
of
iterating
on
our
approach.
A
Cool
yeah
so
be
able
to
look
out
for
that.
If
anyone
else
has
any
thoughts
on
on
the
swapper
liquidity,
deposit,
any
objections
or
comments
or
anything.
G
Comment:
yeah,
yeah,
okay,
so
I
was
also
thinking
that
maybe
if
we
could
get
text
out
to
deploy
stable
coin
paris
as
part
of
liquidity,
most
of
the
trades
that
I
was
tracking
for
sushi
swaps
through
ustc
xti
are
part
of
these
multi-hops
and
people
bridge
usdc,
and
then
they
make
a
trade.
Let's
say
sushi,
usdc
and
then
or
sushi
x
time,
and
then
it
goes
through
this
hop
and
then
they
they
get
this
fees
right.
G
That
correct,
if
yeah,
but
if
a
user
places
a
sushi
usdc
but
then
best
pool,
is
sushi
x
die
and
then
they
trade,
extra
ustc
right
first
hoppers.
So.
H
B
Hot
token,
yeah
he's
saying
stable,
stable
pairs
just
in
case
like
you
need
to
make
a
hop
from
one
stable
to
another
right
to
have
that
native
into
swapper.
So
to
have
a
ustc
wxdi
pool,
that's
deep
enough,
so
that
when
somebody
comes
in
with
usdc
and
they
want
to
access
txt
through,
like
the
txtxd
pool
on
swapper,
that
that
usdc
will
go
through
the
uscc
x
type
pool
on
swapper.
First
then
into
the
dxd
right.
The
multi-hop
within
the
swapper
ecosystem.
H
Yeah
yeah,
so
we
have
that
at
460k
right
now
on
gnosis
chain,
that
pair
wx.ustc
and
that's
what
I
was
saying
is
like
the
other
sushi
swap
one
for
that
gets
gets
a
bunch
of
volume.
I
mean
it's
a
bigger
pool,
but
if
we
made
that
like,
thank
you
saying
a
million
or
two
million
does
that
yeah
and
then
then
the
question
is
what
fee
like?
Do
you
leave
that
fee
at
0.25?
H
Or
do
you
put
that
fee
at
0.1
or
something?
And
then
then
it
could?
Actually,
you
know
make
any
hop
trade
that
much
more
attractive
than
a
hop
trade
on
sushi.
Swap
I
mean
you
already
have
0.25
for
like
an
eth
pair
and
then
even
if
you
left
yeah,
if
you,
even
if
you
put
it
at
0.25
or
something
under
that
for
the
dollar
dollar
pair
your
fee,
as
long
as
liquidity
is
relatively
the
same,
is
going
to
be
a
lot
better
than
the
sushi
swap
and
should
get
the
trades.
Basically.
G
G
If,
if
it
is
like,
if
it
is
point
zero,
five
percent,
if
we
keep
the
fees
at
point,
zero,
five
certain,
I
think
we
might
be
competing
with
curve
as
well,
because
it
is
simpler
to
do
it
with
swapper
than
to
go
and
navigate
through
curve.
Yeah.
B
I
think
that's
a
hard
question
to
necessarily
answer,
but
I
think
we
can
answer
it
under
like
you
know,
for
what
size
trades
do
we
want
to
make
swapper
competitive
with
right,
because
it's
competing
with
curve.
It's
all
about
the
slippage
is
much
much
better
on
curve
right
and
they,
obviously
they
got
like
70
million
in
their
three
pool
on
x
on
those
chains.
B
So
for
big
trades,
it's
it's
impossible
for
us
to
compete
directly
with
that,
but
you
could
ask
yourself:
you
know
what
size
trade
do
we
want
to
be
close
to
and
like
within
what
margin.
A
Yeah,
I'm
just
I
think,
venky
now
people
go
to
curve
to
trade,
would
need
to
go
to
curve
to
trade
x,
died
of
usdc
or
ustc
to
x,
die
and
then
go
back
to
swapper
to
trade
to
west,
but
like
as
soon
as
the
aggregators
get
in.
Then
people
will
just
go
straight
from
curve
to
west
to
to
to
swapper
or
to
sushi
swap
or
wherever
yeah.
The.
H
The
sushi
swap
x
die,
ufcc
is
three
million
of
liquidity,
so
we
could
yeah.
We
could
get
up
to
that
or
closer
to
that
and
have
a
better
fee,
but
the
what
was
it
gonna
say:
oh
yeah,
never
mind.
A
B
A
I
When
we
had
the
meeting
with
martin
kueperman
yeah
at
the
noisy
chain,
innovation
dao
she
mentioned
they've,
been
monitoring
traffic
on
the
curve
and
they've
seen,
there's
barely
any
transaction
over
five
thousand
dollars
worth
of
any
token.
I
A
H
A
H
So
but
his
like
martin's
point
was
at
this
point
and
this
as
nostalgia
chain
grows,
this
could
change
but
like
he
that
this
is
kind
of
why
he
hates
yield
farming
like
in
liquidity
incentives.
It's
because
curve
is
like
already
at
70
million
and
it
like
can
easily
handle
the
10
or
50
000
trade.
H
You
don't
need
70
million
so
like
incentivizing
incentivizing
it
with
more
rewards
to
like
grow
it
from
70
million.
He's
like
this
doesn't
make
any
sense
basically
like.
Maybe
it
should
actually
be
lower
than
that,
and
so
he
there's
a
sweet
spot
for
each
of
these
pairs
yeah.
If
we,
if
we,
if
we
figure
out
what
ten
thousand
dollar
trade
is,
we
can
figure
out
what
the
sweet
spot
is
to
have
in
our
dollar
dollar
pool
and
our
wx
dive
pool
or
our
west
pool.
H
But
we
get,
we
don't
need
five
million
dollars
in
these
things.
We
just
need
like
one
or
two,
and
that
should
cover
like
what's
currently
happening
on
gnosis
chain
at
this
point,
but
with
the
idea
that
this
should
all
probably
grow
as
as
gnosis
chain
transitions
and
becomes
more
popular.
B
I
think
another
thing
just
to
consider
be
aware
of
when
thinking
about
this
is
how
the
routing
works
for
swapper
2,
like
we
have
what
we
call
eco
routing
and
actually
in
the
pipeline,
is
adding
curve
to
the
eco
routing,
so
the
user
of
swapper,
the
dap,
can
access
sushi
liquidity
and
will
be
able
to
access
curve
liquidity
through
the
swapper
ui.
What
it
does
not
do,
though-
and
this
is
important
to
understand-
is
it
it
will
not
like
hop
you
through
multiple
exchanges.
B
It's
just
presenting
you
the
options
that
you
have
on
a
specific
exchange.
So,
for
instance,
if
we
were
talking
about
a
stable
like
usdc
to
you,
know
sushi,
for
instance,
like
it's
not
going
to
run
you
through
curve
and
then
sushi
swap
or
if
you're
doing
txt
it
wouldn't
be
like
curved
and
dxd,
then
swapper
it.
B
You
have
to
pick
the
exchange
to
execute
the
trade,
so
the
user,
if
they
want,
they
could
actually
execute
it
in
multiple
steps
through
the
swapper
ui
and
go
wherever
the
best
price
is,
and
that's
actually
would
be
the
smart
way
to
do
it
not
to
actually
do
a
multi-hop,
but
to
do
each
individual
hop
picking
the
best
price
through
the
swapper
thing
and
actually
without
a
competitive
aggregator,
really
pulling
all
of
these
in
on
gnosis
chain.
B
That,
actually
is
maybe
the
best
tool
available
at
the
moment,
but
but
yeah
eventually,
I
think,
we'll
see
good.
You
know,
causewalk
will
pull
everything
in
one
inch
will
maybe
come
to
town
and
then
we'll
be
competing
with
those
but
yeah
anyway.
It's
just
something
to
think
about
in
terms
of
like
where
the
liquidity
is
for
the
hops
and
how
is
the
user
using
it,
because
yeah.
A
Cool,
we
are
at
the
top
of
the
hour
here
so
I'll,
just
kind
of
breathe
through
dave's
off
the
call
now,
but
we
have
acquired
a
bit
more
of
the
state
eath.
There
is
a
small
problem
to
solve,
with
compounding
the
east
complete
from
rocket
pool,
but
yeah
there's
now
a
thousand
each
that's
being
staked
in
earning
guild
in
the
treasury
now
and
then
just
some
things
to
check
out
that
are
interesting
in
the
forum.
A
I
will
there's
a
good
post
from
federico
and
carrot
and
the
v1
vision.
I
think
he
had
a
great
presentation
on
the
developer
call
yesterday
too.
So
a
lot
of
exciting
things
going
there
about
making
care
much
more
modular,
keenan,
of
course,
with
his
gradients
all
day
for
his
beautiful
dx
voice.
Annual
report
is
another
one
to
check
out
and
then
yeah.
B
A
Governance
q1
update
roadmap,
which
is
a
presentation
I
gave
on
on
friday.
The
strategy
call
is
there
so
also
also
worth
checking
out,
and
so
that
was
it.
I
don't
know
if
melanie's
on
the
call
had
any
announcements
or
anything
to
say
or
we
can
go
to
the
contributor
ux,
but
any
other.
J
Yeah
well
I
mean
now
that
we've
finished
the
peer
review
process
and
transitioned
everyone
almost
completely
into
the
new
compensation
structure.
We've
been
shifting
a
lot
of
our
attention,
this
quarter
to
recruiting
new
contributors
to
dick
style,
we're
recruiting
for
quite
a
few
positions
and
new
roles,
specifically
as
social
media,
social
media
and
community
growth,
contributor
and
art
director,
and
then,
of
course,
our
continuous
search
for
technical
contributors
to
specifically
senior
developers.
J
So
mainly,
we've
been
over
the
past
few
weeks,
trying
to
utilize
various
channels
to
source
candidates.
For
these
roles,
we've
been
screening
and
interviewing
quite
a
few
applicants,
so
we're
hoping
that
in
this
new
year
we
can
onboard
a
lot
of
new
contributors
into
into
dx
dow
and
then
hopefully,
we'll
have
more
updates
on
the
upcoming
weeks.
A
A
Cool,
well,
I
think
we
will
leave
it
there
thanks
everyone,
so
much
for
joining.