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B
Return:
let's
go
over
welcome
to
the
governance
discussion
for
october
14th
to
start
things
off,
nico
had
run
the
script
for
the
actually
I'm
just
gonna
share.
My
screen.
I'd
run
the
script
for
the
gas
refunds.
I
thought
it'd
be
a
good
opportunity
to
look
at
that
quickly.
This
would
be.
B
This
has
always
numbered
on
there
too,
so
so
for
august,
sorry
august,
so
for
august
5.4
eath
about
half
of
which
was
spent
on
staking
and
oh
sorry,
yeah,
there's,
the
half
of
which
is
taking
on
staking
and
the
other
was
actually
on
the
creation
staking,
in
this
case,
being
the
voting
component
and
in
september
6.6,
eighth
total
3.1
on
the
voting
component
and
then
2.6
on
the
proposal.
Creation.
B
Some
pretty
good
numbers,
I
think
174
votes
for
a
whole
month
is,
is
pretty
good
there
and
we
can
see
that
we
had
a
pretty
proposal
a
pretty
heavy
proposal
month
there.
I
think
a
couple
things
from
this
is
just
seeing
how
just
the
having
this
in
place
does
kind
of
increase
voter
participation,
but
it
also
kind
of
shows
how
much
our
voting
process
cost
and
even
just
we
think
about
the
proposal.
B
Creation
that
I
think
sky
was
talking
about
how
it's
you
know,
100,
basically
to
the
dow
to
create
a
proposal.
So
that's
something
we
should
try
to
think
about
how
to
minimize
and
their
ways
to
do
that,
and
this
I
think.
Presumably
we
will
run
the
do
the
same
thing
we
did
last
month.
That
was
in
the
thread
about
refunding
these,
and
I
can't
remember
exactly
the
process
for
that,
but
I
think
skye
and
nico
had
done
it.
Last
month
I
made
it
out
pretty
clear.
C
Yeah
the
last
refund,
when
they
sent
it
out
that
was
like
for
the
history
like
the
past
history.
I
don't
know
what
day
it
ended,
but
is
this?
Is
this
audrey
cuppember
was
this
included
in
the
last
one.
C
B
Is
nico
I
just
he
pasted.
B
Well,
now
that
I'm
reading
it
again
and
sorry
for
it
looks
like
the
august,
one
is
basically
everything
before
that
date
right,
that's
kind
of
all
of
the
because
it
looks
like
look
at
the
votes.
Look
at
the
number.
D
E
We
sort
of
makes
sense
right
because
the
total
votes
in
the
august
count
is
like
seven
times
the
number.
Oh,
no,
it's
only
like
two
or
three
times
the
total
votes
in
september
and
the
gas
prices
were
probably.
C
C
B
C
B
Expensive
yeah
other
kind
of
thoughts
on
this
I
mean,
I
think
this
is,
I
think,
there's
like
just
some
existential
or
essential
benefit.
We
get
from
more
voting
and
more
participation
that
we
kind
of
should
be
constantly
seeking
out
from
that,
and
I
just
think
that
that's
one
of
the
things
that
makes
me
excited
about
x
dies.
B
I
think
it
even
makes
sense
for
someone
with
like
an
incredibly
small
amount
of
rep
to
vote
now,
whereas
before
it
wasn't,
so
I
think,
just
figuring
out
different
ways
of
engaging
in
participation
is
good,
but
is
there
any
kind
of
just
starting
the
conversation
on
any
desire
to
tweak
or
change
the
kind
of
current
gas
refund
system
for
mainnet?
Obviously,
some
of
the
proposal
amounts
and
different
things
may
change,
as
as
we
move
to
xdi
for
certain
things,
but
anything
comments
on
on
changing
the
the
current
setup.
E
I
think
tracking
these
metrics
is
a
good
idea
because
I
think,
hopefully,
hopefully
we
do
see
like
voting
go
up,
but
also,
hopefully
like
the
efficiency
of
of
like
gas
spending
could
go,
become
better
as
well
right
like
right
so
like
what
like.
Maybe
we
could
find
ways
to
like
optimize
like
worker
proposals
by
using,
like
you
know,
guild
or
next
die
or
whatever,
so
it
yeah,
I
think,
hopefully
like
we
can
drive
the
like
gas
used
or
like
reimburse
down
like
at
least
per
vote.
You
know.
B
I
don't
know
if
there's
yeah,
I
guess
just
kind
of
like
the
standard,
is
everyone's
been
doing
two-month
engagements
and
maybe
getting
two
separate
compensation
payments
and
then
even
those
compensation
payments,
I
think,
are
divided
into
two
different
proposals:
one
for
eth
and
one
for
txt,
not
sure
how
we
kind
of
figure
out
how
to
optimize
that,
but
just
kind
of
being
aware
that
those
structures
have
kind
of
efficiencies
that
we
can
try
to
optimize
in
terms
of
processes
that
we're
working
with,
but
also
just
in
terms
of
the
actual
like
gas
components.
C
Yeah
you
we
may
be
getting
to
this,
but
I'm
gonna
your
questions
yesterday,
chris
about
like
what
is
the
relationship
between
the
two
daos
have
to
be
more
formally
established,
but
we
already
in
the
first
week,
saw
that,
like
there's
a
preference
to
do
stuff
on
main
that
partly
this
could
be
a
number
of
reasons
like
outsiders.
Only
look
at
maine
that
dao,
they
don't
even
know
what
x,
dx
dow
is
right.
C
C
You
would
think
that
if
you
want
to
ease
things
and
spend
less
money
and
be
more
efficient,
those
are
the
two
of
the
few
things
you
would
move
on
to
xdi
initially,
but
but
but
to
your
thing
like
what
it
has
to
be.
There
has
to
be
a
more
formal
connection
like
someone
in
the
world
spun
up,
xdx
dao
mapped
rep
without
dx
dao's
permission.
It
was
like
social
consensus,
but
dick's.
C
B
Yeah,
I
think,
before
we
get
into
x
time,
because
I
think,
like
that's
just
the
next
thing
on
the
list,
and
I
want
to
set
up
with
what
exactly
has
been
going
on
there
in
terms
of
like
proposals,
anything
else
specifically
in
the
gas
refund,
because
I
just
wanted
to
touch
briefly
on
treasury
stuff.
F
Yeah,
like
I,
I
think
it's
there's
another
and
I
think
those
numbers
are
very
important
for
us.
Basically,
we
see
that
we
pay
actually
a
lot
of
money
for
governance
and
like
every
developer,
and
every
member
should
actually
like
make
sure
that
this
number
is
getting
into
like
to
zero
almost
to
zero
and
yeah.
I
think
we
should
talk
about
ecstar.
C
B
Yeah,
I
think
that's
that's
interesting.
I'm
kind
of
like
knock
on
wood
thinking,
we've
kind
of
hit
a
plateau
in
terms
of
the
gas
prices
here,
and
so
that
maybe
yeah.
This
is
something
that
will
kind
of
bite
us
through
over
the
next
couple
months,
but
yeah.
Maybe
a
higher
reimbursement
would
get
some
of
those
smaller
voters
who
may
not
be
as
engaged,
but
I
I
also
think
like
then
yeah.
The
cost
component
does
just
get
into
it.
F
Yeah,
like
I,
I
would
be
400
percent
if
we,
if
we
get
to
the
point
with
x
day,
that
we
ratified
what
what
should
be
on
what
should
be
going
on
next
time,
what
should
go
on
mainnet
if,
if
only
like
very
important
proposals
are
going
on
mainnet,
then
I'm
fine
with
100
reimbursement
like
I,
I
personally
think
worker
proposals
should
all
should
mostly
go
through
extra,
but
let's
talk
about
that
soon.
B
That's
it
all
right
just
to
do
a
kind
of
quick
treasury
check-in,
I'm
actually
talking
with
someone
else
horizon
edge
about
some
budget
stuff
later.
So
I
wanted
to
just
kind
of
re
checking
in
on
that
and
as
we
kind
of
go
with
dx
swap
and
because
the
multi
call
scheme
is
kind
of
part
come
together.
I
just
wanted
to
start
the
conversation
again
on
trader
diversification
and
just
see
if
there's
a
general
direction
to
go
in
so
just
for
some
integral
conversation.
B
The
com,
the
deep
swat
dick
swap
launched,
parameters
that
passed
a
couple
weeks
ago
had
a
million
dollars
of
dx
dow
supply
liquidity.
That
would
mean
225
000
in
stable
coins,
considering
the
pools
that
were
there
and
that
would
be
700k
of
eth.
So
there
will
be
some
diversification
that
would
come
to
the
treasury
itself
from
just
being
on
dx
swap
and
providing
liquidity
there.
B
That
would
leave
estimated
like
7.5
million
dollars
worth
of
eat
and
we
have
like
I'd,
say
roughly
100k
monthly
burn
as
a
conservative
estimate
for
for
eth
there,
and
so
I'm
just
a
lot
of
the
conversations
about
the
treasury
are
how
we've
kind
of
redoing
the
funding
curve
and
there's
kind
of
some
broad
discussions
around
that
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
should
try
to
move
towards
some
consensus
before
those
bigger
discussions
on
just
getting
some
diversification
like
out
of
heath
and
so
yeah
and
then
there's
kind
of
a
whole
bunch
of
concerns.
C
Yeah
there
there's
no
plan
right
now
to
have
the
dao
have
the
ability
to
like
use
something
like
compound.
That's
like
a
later
thing,
so
there's
likely
no
like
lending
platform
that
yeah
values
just
like
switch
into
dollars
straight
up
straight
up,
another
asset
right
and
it
may
give
drop.
C
C
F
Now
so,
like
the
it's
important
to
think
when
the
connection
happens,
so
this
multi-core
connection,
because
at
that
time
we
basically
define
what
the
connection
can
do
and
like
we
could
include
compound
into
the
configuration
for
the
first
multi-core
connection.
C
A
G
The
multi-call
will
be
just
like
the
generic
scheme
in
the
sense
that
we
can
add
any
number
of
instances
of
it
with
different
sets
of
contracts
as
many
times
as
we
I
mean
you
know,
so
it
won't.
We,
we
don't
have
to
enable
everything
out
of
the
box.
Obviously,
but
it
just
means
that
things
like
that
are
on
the
table.
If
we
want
them.
B
D
B
G
Yeah,
I'd
also
just
add
to
that
that
anytime,
you
decide
to
send
a
lot
of
money
somewhere
with
a
dow.
It's
going
to
be
publicly
viewable
that
that's
coming
for
days,
which
means
it's
really
important
to
see.
If
there's
some
kind
of
crazy,
crazy
way,
somebody
else
can
take
advantage
of
the
fact
that
you
know
they
can
see
the
dx
dials
moving
a
million
dollars
into
compound
in
five
days.
You
know
that's,
and
I
don't
I
don't
actually
know
what
the
answers
to
that
are.
C
But
I
think
there
was
general
consensus
that,
like
not
not
landing
platforms,
but
we,
the
dxda,
would
only
use
like
limit
orders
for
exchanging
into
dollar
crypto,
because
you
dx
cop
or
unit
swap
would
be
like
front
run
in
central.
Yes
right,
yeah
yeah
anyway,
sorry
to
interrupt
like
setting
a
limit
seven
days
in
advance.
That's
also
a
little
weird.
I'm
not
sure
how
that
works.
C
The
the
priority
list
was
mesa
dx
swap
for
so
we
can
provide
liquidity
to
it
and
dx
trust.
Those
are
the
top
three
priorities.
F
E
Yes,
I
think
everything
everybody
said
is
is
correct.
I
would
add
that
it's
also
a
desirable
property
to
limit
the
number
of
contracts
that
are
on
that
white
list,
because
it's
I
mean
you
can
think
of
it
as
like
a
tax
surface.
E
Basically,
right
like
we
want,
we
don't
want
to
lightly,
add
something
new,
so
I
mean
I
think
the
first
step
is
really
deciding
whether
you
know
there's
a
an
actual
need
like
what
the
actual
intent
is
right,
so
I
mean
very
clearly
we
we
want
to
interact
with
the
excellent,
that's
a
big
motivation
for
pushing
this
forward,
and
so
yeah
I
mean.
Then
we
just
got
to
ask
ourselves
what
else
would
we
want
to
add?
E
E
So
it's
people
have
plenty
of
time
to
prepare
an
attack
and
we're
dealing
with
that
right
now,
with
the
dx
swap
relayer,
because
providing
liquidity
is
like
a
price
sensitive
activity
right,
it
can
be
manipulated
if,
if
you
don't
provide
it
at
the
right
price-
and
so
I
think-
and
just
because
so
I
just
want
to
highlight
that
it's
actually
a
pretty
big
deal
that
dx
now
is
going
to
be
providing
liquidity
to
its
own
protocol,
like
I
think
we're
actually
trailblazing
here.
I
don't
know
of
any
other.
E
You
know
tao
or
you
know,
unchained
protocol
that
is
like
providing
liquidity
to
itself
in
this
kind
of
kind
of
manner
and
with
it
comes
like
a
degree
of
complexity,
because
you
have
to
worry
about
this.
Like
how
what
happens
if
somebody
front
runs
and
nico,
I
don't
think
he's
on
the
call,
but
yeah
you
guys
will
see
when
the
relayer
stuff
gets
published.
I
think
it
warrants
its
own
kind
of
in-depth,
medium
post
and,
like
you
know,
I
think
hopefully
mikko
will
help
do
that.
But
it's
it's.
E
It's
not
a
trivial
task.
So
I
actually
think
that
for
trading
in
the
stablecoin
mesa
is
the
ideal
choice
really
no
such
protocol,
because
because
it's
front
running
resistant-
and
so
I
would
recommend
like
yeah,
that
dx
swap
and
mesa
are
like
two
of
the
white
listed
ones.
F
Circus
but
like
I
think
we
can
already
do
treasure
management
with
the
multisig
if,
if
we
actually
want
like
with
that,
we
could
combine
treasure
management,
which
means
east
to
die
or
whatever
and
then
moving
to
extra.
C
C
So
that
would
be
like
a
test
of.
I
mean
it's
smaller
amount,
but
I
don't
know
the
hundred
thousand
is
could
be
done.
The
same
way.
G
The
last
I
checked
it,
it
didn't
have
a
an
a
specific
app
for
it
yet,
but
I
thought
they
were
working
on
it.
I
could.
A
F
Right,
like
the
the
only
reason
I'm
asking
is
like
because
we
we
have
a
nozzle
safe
multi-stick
inside
the
membership,
and
it's
like
even
gnosis
is
not
caring
about
growth.
C
F
Yep
yep
we
could,
we
could
build
the
transaction.
B
G
B
Well,
urine
is
a
little
hotter,
but
I
think
I
think
john's
john's
point
of
of
just
dx
swap
and
mesa
being
the
kind
of
the
first
ones
I
think,
is
important,
because,
while
there
is
a
lot
of
talk
about
like
treasury
management,
how
we
can
be
optimized
across
a
whole
bunch
of
different
things,
I
think
with
just
mesa
and
swap
like
we
can
do
a
lot
just
have
some
flexibility
diversification.
B
I
think
we
should
be
thinking
about
that
in
the
short
term.
Are
they
going
to
get
caught
or
the
as
medium
term,
rather
than
kind
of
worry
about
the
large
treasury
management
plan
that
we
can
kind
of
unify
amongst
all
of
our
products,
because
you
know
mesa
has
with
mesa.
We
can
kind
of,
I
guess,
diversify
into
stable
coins
or
anything
else,
in
a
pretty
flexible
way
that
you
can.
E
I
mean
it's
interesting
too,
because
even
though
mesa
is
front
running
resistant,
I
mean
if
it
takes
seven
days
to
pass
a
proposal.
The
market
is
just
gonna
move
right.
So
so
you
could
say
in
the
proposal
call
the
basic
contract.
Through
the
multi-call
scheme.
You
know,
sell
100
eth
at
you
know
three.
Whatever
the
current
price
is,
but
then
maybe
the
market
moves
one
way
or
another
and
you'll
either
lose
a
lot
of
money
relative
to
what
you
could
have,
or
you
just
won't
be
able
to
make
the
transaction,
but.
A
You
can
do
also,
as
you
guys.
H
H
A
H
Also
realize
too
that
when
you
get
front
run
you're
getting
a
better
price
than
you
would
normally
get
on
something
like
uniswap,
so
you're
getting
front
run
by
someone
who
is
essentially
replacing
the
transaction
with
the
better
price.
It's
not
like
you're.
Getting
like.
I
understand
that
there
are
some
there's
some
fairness
kind
of
questions
about
like
front
running
but
in
terms
of
price
you're,
usually
getting
a
better
price.
So.
F
B
G
It
would
just
fail
right,
like
you,
would
try
to
buy
or
sell
ether
at
with
some
sort
of
price.
You
know
whatever
your
order,
limit
or
cutoff
would
be,
and
then
the
market
would
move
so
much
that
by
the
time
you
got
to
execute
the
proposal.
There's
like
wouldn't
be
any
more
cells
at
that
price,
or
something
like
that.
H
I
don't
know
yeah.
There
are
definitely
like
malicious
ways
to
like
do
it
for
sure
right,
like
you
could
kind
of
like
juke
uniswap,
especially
if
there's
like
a
big
order,
kind
of
like
coming
through,
but
for
the
most
part
I
mean
this.
The
concept
of
like
front
running
is
it's
like
pretty.
Like
murky,
I
mean
it's
really
it's
taken
from,
like
us
equities
world,
where
this
concept
of
a
national
best
bid
best
offer,
which
is
essentially
kind
of
a
legal
mandate
by
the
the
sec
that
there
be.
H
You
know
the
the
best
price
of
all
of
all
of
the
kind
of
like
venues
right
like
that's.
That's
what
you
you
can't
like
offer
a
shittier
price
to
someone
just
because,
like
you,
have
faster
technology
than
them
right,
like
that's,
that's
kind
of
where
this
whole,
like
front-running
thing.
People
just
think
this,
like,
like
really
make
it.
H
We
shouldn't
do
something
because
we're
worried
about
getting
front
run
and
getting
a
better
price
from
some
army.
B
It's
it's
not.
I
think
it's
kind
of
I
see
what
you're
talking
about,
but
it's
a
little
bit
different.
It's
more
of
someone
like
the
geek
style
is
committing
to
do
sell
x
for
y
at
this
time,
and
it's
saying
whatever
the
price
is
and
like
that's
a
huge
commitment
and
we
need
to
ensure
that
that
price
is
not
manipulated.
B
So
if
we
are
selling
like
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
worth
of
each
and
we're
using
whatever
the
unit
swap
price,
is
at
that
time
at
that
block
that
it
isn't
like
200,
and
I
think
that
there
are
some
abilities
to
potentially
manipulate
the
price,
and
now
I'm
kind
of
talking,
john.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
maybe
another
time
to
talk
about
the
relayer
component,
but
actually
providing
liquidity
on
dx
drop.
It's
kind
of
like
how
that
price
at
which
the
order
would
be
executed
could
be
like
manipulated
by
malicious
actors.
E
Yeah
in
providing
liquidity
you
have
to
worry
about,
like
actual
like,
I
think,
price
manipulation
is
a
very
possible
attack
for
the
type
of
scenarios
we're
looking
at
with
dx
swap
potentially
providing
a
large
amount
of
liquidity
to
a
illiquid
market.
Or
you
know
I
don't
know
something
like
that
or
you
know.
Where
do
we
actually
get
the
oracle
price
from
and
whether
that
can
be
manipulated?
But
I
don't
know
if
that's
would
be
considered
front
running
per
se.
Yeah.
B
Maybe
it's
the
word
too,
and
now
my
head
is,
I
think,
is,
is
confused
with
all
of
the.
B
Yep
all
right,
what
about?
Let's
go
to
x
dot.
B
So
what
are
the
proposals?
We've
got
proposals
with
like
27.
What's
the
current
percent
passing
and
these
are
to
adjust
the
to
add
a
competition
scheme?
What's
what's
going
on
in
the
xdy.
A
Land
yeah,
so
these
are
like
the
proposals
that
we
have
right
now,
there's
also
a
proposal
by
someone
to
map
the
reputation
because
they
didn't
do
it
on
time,
which
is
called
it
yeah
they're
doing
that
as
well,
and
it's
also
like
a
signal
proposal
for
the
status
partnership
all
are.
A
A
B
Time
yeah,
I
mean,
I
think
that
would
be.
I
guess
the
comp
there's
where
I
get
there's
kind
of
the
two
ways
is
that
what
do
we
want
to
have
x?
I
kind
of
proposals,
and
we
want
to
use
that
and
I
kind
of
get
the
conversation
before
or
then.
Second
like
there
is
10
there
is
there,
are
resources
being
sent
to
xdi
to
like
manage
things
now
and
to
do
interesting
things
now
and
so
like?
What
are?
B
B
F
A
You
so
yeah
I
originally
like
proposed
like
a
couple
of
competitions.
I
don't
like
remember
all
of
them
like
on
top
of
my
head,
but
mainly
marketing
stuff,
specifically
for
dx
swap
this
could
be
even
like
you
know,
a
meme
competition
of
you
know
the
best
three
memes
will
win.
You
know
a
hundred,
a
hundred
dollars,
fifty
dollars
and
twenty
dollars,
or
something
like
that
memes.
Regarding,
like
the
swap
or
something
like
that
and,
like
you
know,
article
stuff
and
like
this.
This
is
kind
of
like
on
the
competition
front.
A
Yeah
also
like,
I
think,
our
request
for
proposal.
I
think
we
talked
about
this
in
one
of
the
calls
to
create
basically
a
map
of
all
historical
reputation
data
so
like
how
we've
progressed
over
the
last
couple
of
months
and
yeah,
the
reputation
distribution,
how
the
pie,
changes
and
stuff
like
that
also,
you
know
like
taking
into
account
like
voting
and
participation
in
general.
F
I
mean
that's
like
a
basic
feature
for
the
dao
platform.
Right,
like
I,
I
think
that's
one
of
the
most
important
things
like
rap
distribution.
I
mean
token
there's
like
so
many
dolls,
with
liquid
token
governance
that
they're
like
breaking
deep
down
probably,
but
for
for
the
dow
stick,
does
it
would
be
super
important
to
see
how
rep
is
distributed
right.
C
Yeah
so,
and
it
can
also
be
used
for
bounties
like
easier
and
cheaper
ways
to
pay
bounties,
and
we
have
a
whole
list
of
bounties
and
like
geronimo,
you
know.
So
it
was
a
helper
with
the
omen,
curation
list
and
ended
up
just
paying
out
of
like
multi-sig,
because
it
was
point
three,
eighth
or
something
like
stuff
like
that.
Doesn't
like
all
these
smaller
bounties
for
one
eighth
or
something
like
that,
make
less
sense.
C
You
don't
want
to
do
a
proposal
on
maine
that
costs
more
than
the
bounty
right,
so
that
pot
of
money,
10
grand,
can
be
used
for
competitions,
bounties,
potentially,
a
part-time
worker
who
wants
just
to
pay,
gets
paid
some
dye.
So
we
could
try
three,
those
three
things
plus
any
other
idea
in
the
exactly
for
that.
Yeah.
A
I
just
had
a
thought
you
can
actually
using
the
competition.
You
can
create
a
bounty
that,
basically,
you
know,
places
the
money
at
stake,
like
you
say,
we'll
put
give
10
whatever
10
eth
to
whoever
completes
this
bounty
and
then,
if
no
one
completes
the
bounty,
then
you
know
the
dao
can
vote
to
return
that
to
the
dao.
Basically.
But
if
someone
completes
the
bounty
they
can,
they
can
get
paid,
which
is
pretty
cool.
I
think,
because.
C
A
Way
the
way
the
competition
works
is
that
you
know
there's
a
yes
or
no
proposal
for
do
you
want
to
run
the
competition
with
these
parameters
and
this
reward.
Let's
say
you
know
10
eth
and
then,
if
the
dow
votes,
yes,
it
locks
that
10
eth
and
then
the
winner
of
the
competition
basically
like
there
are
a
lot
of
other
parameters
but
you're,
basically
kind
of
like
you.
You
lock
that
any
for
the
winner
of
the
competition.
If
there's
no
winner,
then
it
kind
of
like
goes
back.
C
A
C
A
D
F
F
We
we're
basically
could
use
multi-core
instance
on
xdi
to
connect
to
most
of
the
exact
contracts.
C
F
Yeah
also
yeah,
like
I
think
the
x-ray
should
be
some
kind
of
like
staging
version
in
general
for
us
to
like
really
test
and
the
cool
thing
is
it's
like
not
really
just
testing,
because
maybe
there
will
be
some
economy
on
next
time.
So,
like
I
think,
once
oman
is
there
and
dx
swap
is
deployed
on
xdi.
We
have
the
token
registry,
and
then
we
actually
do
the
exact
same
things
on.
D
F
C
One
important
like
clarification
as
part
of
like
the
relationship
between
the
two
would
be
to
make
it
clear
that
like
to
get
people
to
use,
signaling
and
other
voting
on
xdi,
which,
if
that's
what
we
want
to
do
for
certain
things,
people
know
that
if
their
reputation
gets
increased
on
xdi
as
part
of
the
monthly
recap
or
something
to
mainnet,
that
you
could
get
that
that
counts
as
like
getting
rep
on
mainnet
too,
and
that's
a
decision
that
needs
to
happen
like
do.
We
want
to
keep
those
two
things
simple
like.
C
E
And
I
think
to
make
that
kind
of
thing
like
clear
and
official
and
more
legitimate,
like
a
main
net
signal
proposal,
is
probably
a
good
way
to
like
to
authorize
it
right
to
kind
of
spot
up.
So
basically,
you
want
to
give
all
the
the
rep
holders
that
constitute
the
actual
dx
tao
the
opportunity
to
like
voice
their
approval
or
disapproval
of
it.
F
Yeah
to
like
voice
my
opinion
for
a
proper
clone,
which
means
main
net
rep,
is
x,
direct
like
if
people
really
want
to
force
the
or,
like
members,
really
want
to
stay
at
mainnet
they
paying
like
high
cost
for
governance
and
they're,
like
I
think
those
sports
yeah
like
I
think,
it's
way
more
efficient
to
use
to
have
like
a
clone
just
because
we
we
incentivize
people
to
actually
use
the
way
way
cheaper
governance
system
on
on
a
different
system.
F
C
A
There
is
a
scheme,
it's
called
basically
reputation,
admin
which
takes
it
has
a
couple
of
limitations,
but
it
takes
a
list
of
addresses
and
lists
the
reputation.
C
Yeah,
so
super
dangerous,
so
that
so,
if
if
xdi
became
very
active
and
lots
of
people
did
stuff
on
ecti-
and
you
know
reputation
that
structure
changed
the
only
way
to
then
update
that
on
mainnet
is
for
individuals
to
each
ask,
which
then
is
the
shitload
of
proposals.
So
it's
like
they're
gonna
go
opposite
they're
gonna
diverge
very
quickly
and
then
they're
gonna
be
hard
to
maintain,
which
is
a
big
which
is
kind
of
a
pretty
big
issue.
I
mean
this
could
be
like
a
quarterly.
F
Not
sure
if
it's
important
to
have
always
like
it's
not
possible,
it
will
be
out
of
sync
the
replica
like
the
the
mapping,
and
I
think
it
the
xd
base
could
be
like
the
base
where
people
kind
of
earn
it
and
yeah
sync
it
up
to
mainnet
at
some
point,
also
combining
with
some
kind
of
proposals
at
the
end
of
the
day.
If
they
have
more
on
x,
die
they,
they
can
always
sync
up
on
mainnet
right.
E
I
think
it's
important
to
point
out
too
that
it's
actually
like
a
two-way
sync
like
if
I
have
an
address
on
mainnet
and
address
on
x9,
I
can
be
earning
rep
or
losing
rep
on
both
of
them
in
different
directions
of
different
activities,
and
so
it's
not
just
enough
to
simply
like
you
know,
update
mainnet,
to
be
what
xdi
is,
or
vice
versa.
You
I
think
you
actually
to
do
this
properly,
would
need
to
be
tracking
deltas
on
rep
on
both
sides.
B
A
A
We
can
do
like
another
proposal
to
change
them
and
to
say
something
about
like
the
mapping
2x
die
or
next
day.
We
could
probably
use
this
reputation,
admin
and
register
it
to
the
tao.
B
Yeah,
I'm
sorry
yeah,
I
mean
this
is
a.
This
is
a
kind
of
just
a
lot
of
different
moving
parts
here
and
I
think
it's
kind
of
tough
because
it
will
kind
of
evolve
into
something
organic.
That
is
kind
of
combines
all
of
these
things,
but
I
think
it
could
be
tough
to
say
specifically
like
how
I
guess
legitimacy
I
keep
coming
back
to
that
word.
Legitimacy
is
earned
for
these
different
for
for
the
xdi
chain
and
I
think
that's
something
that
will
like
come
through
over
time.
E
But
yeah,
I
think
I
think
it
maybe
even
warrants
a
separate
meeting,
or
at
least
some
people
kind
of
being
responsible
for
like
proposing
a
detailed
solution
here
right
and
I
think
the
things
that
yeah
you
need
to
look
at
how
to
do
the
two-way
sync.
You
need
to
look
at
what
the
actual
rep
rewards
are
for
proposals.
It's
something.
E
We've
talked
about
a
little
bit,
but
I've
never
taken
a
serious
look
at
I
mean
I
think,
potentially
the
rep
proposal
rewards
might
even
need
to
be
updated
on
mainnet
simply
to
be
in
more
in
line
with
increasing
the
distribution
of
rap.
E
Like
you
know,
it's
something
like
500
rep
per
contribution,
reward
proposal
right
now
on
on
main
met,
and
if
you're,
you
know
somebody
like
me
or
geronimo,
who
is
maybe
making
you
know
more
than
just
their
own
worker
proposals
like
that,
adds
up
over
a
year
and
we're
both
over
the
max
rep.
So
it's
actually
we're
kind
of
like
contradicting
our
like
our
policies.
I
think
need
to
be
looked
at
a
little
more
closely
for
the
rep
issuance
and
distribution,
just
in
general,
as
well
as
with
next
diet
relating
to.
C
What
one
approach
is
like
having
other
dows
that
can
be
sub
or
under
x,
dial?
Now
the
rep,
the
the
clone
version
of
xdx
dial.
It
may
be
a
different
scenario,
but
eventually
there
will
be
a
you
know:
a
rails,
dao
or
a
dx
swap
down
or
like
there
can
be
other
like
product
dials,
which
are
sub
dials
and
like
those
can
have
different.
C
Those
can
have
their
own
reputation
groups,
but
in
this
case
where
it
was
started
as
a
clone
and
is
theoretically
supposed
to
be
a
clone,
the
divergence
problem
is
a
big
issue.
You
could
just
treat
it
as
its
own
dao.
C
B
And
it
actually
has
that
structure
now
it
actually
is
structured
as
its
own
tao
and
it
could
like
once
it
gets
some
we
put
some
cash
into
it.
Maybe
it
could
just
go
off
and
be
on
its
own
and
people
earn
rap
and
there's
suddenly
a
different
like
rep
balance
on
the
xdi
chain,
so
yeah,
it's
like
how,
since
they
are
structured
separately,
how
do
you
make
them.
E
That
really
is
dx
tao
right,
it's
just
it's
just
a
another
replica
of
the
you
know
it's
just
like
another
manifestation
of
the
dx.
Now.
B
Like
entity
right,
I
was,
I
was
looking
for
it,
but
I
can't
find
anything
now.
But
david
hume
is
a
scottish
philosopher
who
has
like
very
interesting
ideas
on
identity
and
it's
kind
of
like
what
does
make
make
something:
a
person
to
person
like
an
organization
like
an
organization
and
it's
like
a
pretty
deep
topic.
But.
C
One
of
the
reasons
why
signal
proposals
made
a
lot
of
sense
in
general
is
because
on
mainnet,
a
signal
proposal
is
very
different
than
like
our
core
proposals
that
change
technology
change,
the
parameters
or
like
move
real
money.
A
signal
proposal
is
only
as
good
as
what
the
people
or
in
this
community
do
once
the
signal
proposal
happens
right.
C
It
has
no
physical
connection,
so
a
signal
proposal
is
only
as
good
as
the
people
that
believe
in
that
signal
proposal
and
and
do
something
and
take
action
from
it,
so
that
why
that's
kind
of
why
a
signal
proposal
on
x
die
makes
more
sense
than
a
worker
proposal,
because
it's
not
you're
not
moving
any
money
and
you're,
not
changing
technical
parameters.
So
that
was,
although
I
do
think
sometimes.
E
B
E
If
it's
a
giant,
you
know
binding
partnership
between
two
dows
or
projects,
then
I
think
you
probably
still
want
to
be.
I
mean
well.
B
Let's,
let's,
let's
talk
about
one
of
the
important
signal
proposals
that
has
that
recently
passed
to
kind
of
switch
gears
to
the
end.
B
We've
talked
a
lot
about
the
speaking,
of
course,
about
the
five-point
plan,
which
has
passed
last
the
end
of
last
month
and
kind
of
laid
out
a
lot
of
different
things
about
moving
forward
as
a
collective
and
figuring
out
different
things
to
solve
one
of
the
areas,
and
I
really
think
there
are
two
areas
that
kind
of
really
require
a
lot
more
research
discussion.
Consensus
is
the
bonding
curve
and
governance.
2.0
is
what
I've
kind
of
been
calling
it.
B
What
I
wrote
this
forum
thread
about,
so
you
can
have
a
kind
of
read
through
it
yourself,
but
this
is
an
initial
thread
proposed
signal
proposal
to
establish
a
working
group
that
would
address
some
of
these
long-term
governance
issues
that
were
laid
out
in
the
five-point
plan
right
here.
B
So
just
kind
of
you
know,
I
think
it's
really
hard
to
figure
out
exactly
how
this
structure,
so
I
just
kind
of
put
these
ideas
down
for
to,
hopefully
get
things
started
and
to
get
the
ball
rolling.
So
the
scope,
a
couple
of
the
issues
that
we'd
like
to
you
know
kind
of
broadly
address
or
how
to
incentivize
good
governance
to
rep
holders
and
how
to
create
a
long-term
dxd
and
rep
alignment.
I
think
a
lot
of
people
listening
on
these
calls
kind
of
understand
some
of
these.
B
These
underlying
problems,
in
the
sense
that
dxd
is
not
rep
holders
ultimately
kind
of
have
control
over
the
treasury
and
the
the
dow
long
term
and
figuring
out
a
way
to
make
dxd
an
integral
part
of
that
of
the
governance
system
long
term.
I
do
think
there
are
some
existing
governance
properties
that
we're
trying
to
preserve
something,
I
think,
is
very
core
to
deep
style
is
anti-plutocracy,
so
voting
power
cannot
be
bought.
B
B
I
think
this
deals
with
looking
at
other
potential
governance
solutions
and
then
yeah
growth
and
decentralization,
which
I
know
is,
is
a
core
tenant
of
of
a
lot
of
groups,
but
I
think,
is
really
important,
whatever
system
and
and
structures
that
we're
trying
to
figure
out,
it's
very
important
that
they
can
scale
to
you,
know
really
global
global
scale
and
that
that
scale
does
not
create
concentrations
of
power
participants.
Of
course,
I
imagine
this
group
would
would
kind
of
be
open
to
all.
B
Just
as
all
these
different
calls
that
we
have
now
different
groups
working
on
different
products,
how
we
iterate
out
and
be
open,
but
I
do
think
it's
important
to
have
like
specific
people
that
would
probably
be
named
in
the
proposal
and
would
would
kind
of
be
responsible
or
accountable
in
different
ways,
and
so
I
think
just
name
some
core
contributors
that
have
been
interested
in
these.
B
I
know
there's
people
also
on
this
call,
maybe
didn't
mention
happy
to
kind
of
arrange
that,
and
I
think
the
two
external
groups
that
could
participate
now
and
I
think,
would
be
willing-
are
the
delphi,
digital
team
and
then
dow
stack
leadership
team
and
I
think
getting
matan
involved
would
be
really
great
for
some
really
good
ideas
there
and
then
some
other
potential
participants.
These
are
just
some
people.
B
I
think,
is
kind
of
interesting
that
I've
heard
talk
about
governance,
radical
exchange,
democracy,
earth
and
some
people
there
yeah,
and
I
think
the
output
here
would
be
a
specification
document.
So
this
is
not
maybe
executable
code,
but
this
does
lay
out
a
path
forward
for
the
dao
to
go
unclear
whether
that
will
be
a
singular
path
or
a
couple.
Different
paths
recommended
the
timeline.
B
I
wanted
to
be
reasonable
with
this,
so
I
know
this
would
be
kind
of
cat
hurting
a
lot
of
different
people,
so
I
do
think
this
would
probably
take
say
four
meetings
and
that
would
be
meeting
every
other
week
and
doing
some
research
and
reporting
back
and
then
resources
again,
not
not
sure
exactly
what
this
would
look
like.
But
I
would
want
to
incent
to
make
sure
we
get
the
right
work
and
contributions
from
different
different
teams.
B
Obviously,
the
dxdot
core
contributors
would
be
compensated
by
the
dow,
but
if
there's
additional
research
that
we
would
want
participants
to
do
because
they
have
a
good
perspective,
that's
going
to
require
work
and
time
on
their
effort,
and
I
think
we
should
compensate
that
in
some
way
and
then
obviously
I
think
we
should
be
not
kind
of
promise.
Anything
and
any
compensation
requests
would
have
to
go
through
the
kind
of
the
normal,
the
normal
channels.
B
But
I
think,
just
as
like
a
signaling
mechanism,
I
thought
ten
ten
thousand
dollars
would
be
appropriate
for
for
the
group
and
then,
of
course,
I
think
rep
awards
should
in
some
way
be
expected
or
kind
of
encouraged
out
of
this
and
then
just
yeah
a
couple
things
on
transparency
and
accountability.
And,
of
course
I
think
that
we're
pretty
transparent
organization
already
for
that
so
yeah
that
was
it
eager
to
get
kind
of
questions,
comments,
suggestions
on
on
things.
A
I
have
one
comment.
I
don't
think
this
should
be
fully
open.
I
mean
people
could
like
listen
to
the
meeting,
but
I
feel,
like
you
know.
If
it
goes
beyond
a
certain
size,
then
you
know
I
don't
know
if
if
this
is
like,
if,
if
this,
I
don't
know,
it's
actually
good
so
yeah
like
this
is
just
like
one
thing
and
yeah
other
than
that.
I
think
this
is
great
and
super
important
and
I
think,
like
like
this
working
group,
should
be
done
for
other
things
as
well
yeah.
This
is
a
good
start.
E
A
I
I
just
thought
of
something
and
you
could
you
can
actually
like
create
a
competition
of
you
know.
These
are
the
let's
say
you
know
four
or
five
people,
let's
say
senior
people
who
are
joining
and
then
anyone
else
could
propose
themselves
being
a
part
of
this
working
group
and
what
they
can
offer
to
the
working
group.
Maybe
this
is
I
mean
if
you
want
to
get
started
on
this
fairly
soon,
then,
maybe
not,
but
maybe
for
the
future
working
groups.
A
No,
no
so
I
was
thinking.
Okay
like
this
is
the
competition
is
basically
a
proposal
for
a
certain
working
group.
Let's
say
I
don't
know
dx
trust,
and
then
you
know
over
the
course
of
a
long
period
of
time,
people
can
propose
their
their
candidacy.
Basically,
whatever
I'm
a
project
manager,
I'm
a
project,
product
manager,
etc,
and
I'm
a
dev
or
whatever,
and
then
you
know
the
dow
can
basically
choose
them
they'll
they
get.
E
A
I've
got
like
an
article
that
I've
been
working
on
that
basically
kind
of
like
outlines
how
gov,
like
decentralized
governance,
works
with
yeah
working
groups,
taking
inspiration
from
world
of
warcraft
and
pirates.
So.
B
These-
are
one
of
these
things
that
the
things
that
we
do
now
are
creating
structures
and
guiding
how
these
things
will
work
in
the
future,
and
it's
almost
just
as
important
to
think
about
how
the
structure
will
evolve
in
the
future,
and
that
is
to
like
what
it's
trying
to
accomplish
now,
because
I
think
this
is,
you
know
a
way
of
experimenting
with
different
types
of
coordination
and
organization
right,
like
it's
still
interesting
and
crazy,
that
there
are
different
products
being
worked
on
by
like
a
team
around
the
world
and
that's
somehow
being
coordinated
around,
and
I
think
that's
you
know
a
big
step
in
that
direction.
B
Dx
dow
is
pioneered
and
so
interesting
to
see
how
other
other
coordination
mechanisms
can
be
built.
A
Yeah
on
yeah
leroy
jenkins
on
that
topic.
Actually
I
don't
know
what
I
wanted
to
say
because
of
the
leora
jenkins.
A
Yeah,
oh
yeah,
so
I
remember
what
I
wanted
to
say.
I
think
john
mentioned
earlier
that
we're
kind
of
trailblazing
and
I
think,
like
it's
trailblazing
on
like
a
different
level
than
anything
else,
I
think
and
like
we
should
be
doing
as
many
experiments
as
possible,
but
we
should
also
be
like
understanding
how
to
quantify
the
experiment.
So
we
know
what
works
and
what
doesn't-
and
this
is
kind
of
like
a
core
problem
with
accountability
in
general.
Endows
so
yeah
like
these.
B
Yeah-
and
I
actually,
I
really
do
think
reputation
and
keeping
it
close
to
that
word.
Reputation
is
a
real
important
component
of
that,
because
reputation
is,
I
think
I
stole
his.
I
think
this
is
on
the
shoot,
or
still
is
from
john,
but
like
reputation
is
like
an
on-chain
manifestation
of
your
contributions
to
dx
dow,
and
so
we
think
of
like
accountability.
Accountability
is
kind
of
this,
like
you
will
do
this
because,
like
we
can
enforce
that,
you
do
that
in
some
way
we
have
some
accountability.
B
Metrics,
as
opposed
to
like
reputation,
is
almost
this
way
of
like
conveying
trust
that
you
will
execute
on
it,
and
that
reputation
is
like
unchained
with
a
history
that
everyone
can
see
like
how
you've
you've
executed
in
the
past,
and
that
will
indicate
your
capability
going
forward
anyway.
So
I
will
probably
leave
that
up
for
a
couple
days.
I
think
that's,
a
pretty
big
kind
of
post
hope
there'll,
be
some
comments.
Feedback,
as
I
said,
I
think
you
can
kind
of
comment.