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From YouTube: e-NABLE SPC Meeting - May 14, 2021
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This is a recording of the e-NABLE Strategic Planning Committee meeting for Friday, May 14, 2021.
The notes/agenda document can be found here: https://bit.ly/3yevp73
A
There
we
go
and
actually
sorry
hold
on.
I
gotta
rearrange
my
windows
here,
so
I
can
see
my
notes.
Everybody
have
the
notes.
I
think
I
sent
the
link
okay,
one
second,
okay,
so
let's
see
ben
and
john
do
notes.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
don't
think
there's
any
update
on
the
action
items.
I
know
I
have
not
made
progress
on
the
tutorial
for
sizing.
I
I
need
to
I've
just
been
too
busy.
I
assume
the
same
is
true
for
the
lumio
in
bed.
Right
john.
B
C
A
All
right
moving
on
then
today
will
be
isabella's
presentation.
We
have
some
others
coming
up
in
june
and
oh
safe
may
28th.
Oh
that's
right!
We
put
that
on
last
time.
Let
me
move
that
up
in
order.
A
Okay
and
then
all
of
our
stats
and
metrics
are
in
here.
The
only
thing
that
really
jumped
out
at
me
was
38
badge
requests
this
week.
That's
the
most
we've
ever
had
in
a
week.
I
believe,
even
including
this
week
we
rolled
out
the
new
badge
platform,
38
38.
Well,
that's
what
it
says
in
in
the
hub.
Well,.
A
C
A
You
know
what
no
join
the
hub.
It's
it's
my
fault.
I
I
misread
his
report
here,
he's
showing
the
total
there's
so
there's
nine
new
requests
in
this
week's
range
and
38
is
the
total
up
to
now,
since
he
started
this
system,
so
I
just
read
is
his
reporting,
so
I
take
that
back
folks.
Sorry,
it
was
nine
badge
requests
and.
A
D
That
the
the
join
the
hub
badge,
even
though
it
is
an
automated
badge,
is
a
great
indicator
because
people
don't
get
that
for
joining
the
hub.
They
get
that
for
joining
the
badge.
Syncing.
D
A
So
we
can
look
at
say
so
I
guess
38
is
probably
the
number
right
now
of
how
many
people
well.
No,
because
that's
going
to
include
multiple
badges
per.
So
I
don't
have
that
in
the
metrics
here.
It
would
be
good
to
have
that
number
of
like
how
many
people
have
have
synced.
You
know
with
the
badging
system.
C
A
I
think
that'll
help
to
bring
some
new
exposure
and
attention
to
it
we'll
see
an
uptick
but
we'll
see
moving
on,
though,
let's
see
the
one
other
thing
I
wanted
to
talk
about
real
quick
before
we
get
into
isabella's
presentation
is
an
interesting
idea.
Actually
came
from
masvi
was
a
suggestion
that
we
consider
doing
these
meetings.
A
The
spc
meetings
as
youtube
live
meetings,
instead
zoom
meetings-
and
I
I
actually
checked-
because
I
I
have
a
platform
that
I
use
for
doing
live
streams
for
our
3d
universe,
untethered
series:
I'm
live
streaming
to
facebook,
but
I
just
checked
in
the
tool
that
we're
using
ecam
live
and
I
sure
enough
I
have
a
little
drop
down.
I
can
choose
to
stream
to
youtube
instead,
so
I
have
a
tool
that
would
allow
us
to
do
that.
A
Everybody
would
join
in
using
a
different
link
that
I
would
provide
and
you'd
have
a
similar
gallery
view
to
what
we
have
now,
if
you're
in
the
gallery
view
and
we
can
still
screen
share
and
all
that
the
difference
is
that
it
would
be
streamed,
live
to
youtube.
So
anybody
in
the
community
could
watch
and
they
can
comment
in
real
time,
so
they
don't
have
to
like
join
in
to
participate.
A
They
could
type
like
hey
what
about
such
and
such
and
we'll
see
those
comments
in
real
time
as
they
come
in
and
could
kind
of
bring
them
into
the
discussion
and
respond
to
them
and
things
like
that
and
that
all
then
automatically
gets
recorded.
So
I
also
don't
have
to
go
through
this
uploading,
the
recording
to
youtube
every
week
and
all
that
it's
automatically
on
youtube
with
the
comments
that
came
in
as
we
were
meeting
and
all
we
have
to
do
is
maybe
put
in
a
link
to
our
notes
or
something.
A
So
it
sounded
like
a
really
good
idea
to
me.
I
wanted
to
see
what
you
guys
thought
if
it's
worth
trying
out
next
week,
maybe.
A
Makes
sense
to
me
so
just
a
heads
up,
I
will
send
a
different
link
for
next
week
and
we'll
try
that
next
week,
instead
of
zoom
and
do
a
beta
test,
we'll
see
and
I'll
I'll
be
sure
to
put
something
on
the
hub
to
let
people
know
we're
going
to
do
that
test
and
invite
them
to
try
it
out
and
we'll
see
how
it
goes.
We
can
always
decide
after
our
test
what
we
want
to
do.
Excellent.
A
B
I
have
a
brief
update.
Okay,
I
had
an
interesting
call
yesterday
with
two
university
students
of
ethiopian
descent.
B
They
made
me
aware
that
there
is
a
slow
motion
of
rwanda
situation
going
on
in
ethiopia
right
now:
rapes,
murders,
amputations,
it's
a
mess,
many
of
the
refugees
most
of
the
people
are
not
in
refugee
camps,
but
many
have
gone
to
sudan
and
they're.
Trying
to
organize
various
relief
and
aid
efforts
there
and
they're
interested
in
exploring
whether
there's
a
role
for
enable
prosthetics.
It's
not
clear
that
that's
the
most
pressing
issue,
but
for
those
who've
got
the
problem,
they
have
a
a
fresh
and
severe
problem.
B
I
pointed
out
that
we
want
to
coordinate
with
the
appropriate
people
that
these
are
going
to
be
fresh
wounds,
so
we
need
medical
personnel
etc.
So
I'm
just
reporting
on
that
preliminary
conversation
raising
awareness
about
something
everyone
should
be
aware
of.
B
B
D
And
maybe,
to
put
it
into
context,
john
was
talking
about
it
yesterday
and
it
sounds
like
amputations
are
a
big
part
of
what's
going
on
over
there
and
you
know,
even
in
terms
of
people
having
amputations,
so
they
can
not
be
involved.
In
the
fighting
I
mean
it's,
it
sounds
sort
of
complicated.
A
D
A
All
right,
okay,
so
over
to
you,
isabella.
The
rest
of
the
meeting
is
yours
to
give
us
your
presentation.
E
B
E
All
right
so
good
morning,
my
name
is
isabella
kaplan,
I'm
a
mba
student
at
brandeis
university
and
this
past
semester
I
interned
with
enable-
and
today
I'm
going
to
share
my
experience
through
this
presentation,
called
strength
and
coordination
in
a
democracy
during
this
presentation
I'll
be
going
over
the
following.
I'm
going
to
give
an
overview
of
my
internship,
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
methodology
I
use
to
come
to
my
findings.
E
I'm
going
to
share
my
key
findings
as
well
as
some
of
my
work.
If
you
see
that
icon
the
little
note
icon,
that
means
there
are
complementary
documents
that
go
with
it.
That
gives
a
further
explanation
and
then
I'll
end.
My
presentation
with
recommendations,
if
you're
new,
to
enable
you're,
probably
wondering
why
I
wrote
duocracy
in
the
title.
Well,
that's
because
that's
what
enable
is
enable
is
a
coalition
or
a
network
of
international
volunteers
and
chapters.
E
Its
government
is
not
a
hierarchy
but
broken
down
into
different
components
such
as
the
strategic
planning
committee
wishbone,
which
is
a
newer
component
for
peer
support
and
lumio,
which
is
a
voting
system.
This
is
where
all
members
of
enable
can
come
in
share
their
ideas
and
vote
on
important
issues.
E
E
E
One
way
to
improve
cohesion
is
improving
communications
between
spc
and
the
enable
community
to
find
solutions
how
to
improve
communications
between
spc
and
the
enable
community.
I
did
the
following
methodology.
I
conducted
15
plus
interviews
with
new
volunteers,
chapter
heads,
community
governance,
members
and
more,
I
reviewed
all
the
websites
such
as
the
hub
and
enabling
the
future.
I
did
ideal
type
analysis
which
I'll
go
into
more
detail
later
and
I
attended
10
plus
spc
meetings.
E
So,
let's
go
into
my
findings.
My
first
findings
come
from
my
interviews
where
I
ask
them
the
things
that
they
really
value
from
enable
as
well
as
some
barriers
they
face.
Let's
start
with
the
values
new
volunteers
find
the
enable
community
very
welcoming
from
the
moment
they
enroll.
They
find
a
very
supportive
group
of
people
that
are
really
ready
to
help
them
and
once
they
learn
the
website,
they
find
everything
they
can
need.
E
Is
there
long-term
volunteers
love
the
ability
to
mentor
and
connect
with
the
community
and
they
find
great
value
in
helping
other
people,
learn
and
grow
chapters,
love
the
infrastructure
in
the
network.
It's
hard
to
start
an
organization,
but
having
the
support
and
the
resources
available
for
you,
as
well
as
people
who
have
done
it
before
to
share
their
experience,
is
very
helpful.
E
E
E
Long-Term
volunteers
are
really
frustrated
with
new
volunteers.
They
find
that
new
volunteers
are
always
posting
in
the
hub
flooding
their
inbox
with
notifications.
This
is
leading
them
to
move
away
from
enable
and
act
more
independent
because
they
ignore
all
the
notifications.
Another
issue
that
many
of
you
are
aware
of
is
that
there
are
need
for
more
recipients.
E
A
lot
of
the
volunteers
are
frustrated
that
there
are
not
enough
people
who
need
a
hand
that
they
can
create
hands
for
at
the
same
time,
more
experienced
long-term
volunteers
are
frustrated
with
those
long-term
volunteers
because
they
believe
those
volunteers
make
a
hand
ship
it
and
then
leave
the
recipients
alone.
They
believe
that
there
needs
to
be
more
collaboration
and
partnership
between
the
maker
and
the
recipient
chapters
have
a
mix
of
concern
from
the
new
volunteers
and
the
long-term
volunteers.
E
Chapters
do
not
use
a
hub
other
than
a
few
links
they
save
because
they
find
it
really
overwhelming
similar
to
long-term
volunteers,
because
they
get
a
flood
of
notification.
They
usually
ignore
any
email
that
comes
from
the
enable.
As
a
result,
everyone
I
interviewed
were
unaware
of
that
there
was
funding
available,
so
this
means
that
chapters
are
missing
out
on
important
opportunities.
E
University
chapters
share
the
same
concern
as
chapters
but
to
become
a
university
chapter.
There
are
a
lot
of
legal
requirements
such
as
irb
and
fitting
the
policies
of
the
school
they
currently
feel
isolated
from
enable
because
they
haven't
found
much
resources
and
guidance
on
how
to
navigate
the
legal
procedures.
E
My
next
finding
comes
from
enabling
the
future
in
the
donations.
When
you
see
this
chart,
you're,
probably
like
wow.
This
is
pretty
hectic
compared
to
the
other
slides
and
that's
because
the
process
on
the
enabling
the
future
map
is
a
little
confusing.
What
this
is
mapping
out
is
the
flow
of
donations.
When
someone
makes
a
donation
on
the
website
when
you
go
to
the
enabling
the
future
website,
if
you
click
donate,
it
could
go
to
jen
owens.
E
It
can
go
to
the
enable
fund,
it
could
go
to
a
chapter
and
it
can
go
to
the
3d
universe.
None
of
these
are
bad
places
for
money
to
go
to.
In
fact,
these
are
really
great
places
for
money
to
go
to,
but
we
don't
want
people
donating
to
be
confused
thinking
that
their
money
is
going
to
the
enable
fund
when
reality
is
going
to
a
specific
chapter.
E
I
actually
made
this
recommendation
a
few
weeks
ago
and
I'm
happy
to
announce
that
changes
have
already
been
made
on
the
website.
If
you
now
go
to
enabling
the
hub
or
enablingthefuture.org-
and
you
click
donate
on
any
page,
it
takes
you
to
this,
which
is
a
much
more
clear
and
more
easily
understandable
way
to
donate
and
I'm
sure
it
will
clear
up
any
confusion
in
the
future.
E
E
These
characteristics
and
elements
are
not
ideal
because
they're
perfect,
but
they're,
ideal
because
they
are
the
most
well
known
and
the
most
prominent.
For
example.
This
image
right
here
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
detail,
but
based
on
the
stance
of
the
person,
the
boulder
hat
and
the
cane.
Everyone
knows.
This
is
charlie
chaplin
and
that's
kind
of
what
ideal
types
do
it
takes
groups
and
it
shares
and
focuses
on
their
key
characteristics.
E
Why
would
I
do
this
well
helps
break
down
enable
into
different
groups
that
help
understand
enable
as
a
whole?
So
let's
go
into
my
findings,
so
the
first
ideal
type
I
focused
on
were
on
environments.
There
are
four
ecosystems
that
make
up
the
enable
environment.
The
first
is
a
government
ecosystem.
This
is
where
collective
decision
making
happens.
This
could
be
on
lumio
spc
and
in
the
future
wishbone.
E
The
next
group
is
open
source
ecosystem.
This
is
where
sharing
designs
and
documents
take
place
like
on
the
hub.
Next
ecosystem
is
a
media
ecosystem.
This
is
us
spreading.
The
word
such
as
on
facebook,
enabling
the
future
or
fundraising
for
enable
the
last
ecosystem
is
the
volunteer
ecosystem.
This
is
where
collaborative
innovation
and
interaction
happens.
E
Although
these
four
ecosystems
are
very
different,
they
all
share
the
same
characteristics.
They
are
all
decentralized,
but
a
lot
of
collaborating
and
sharing
takes
place,
and
this
is
a
really
key
and
important
part
about
enable
the
next
ideal
types
are
roles.
There
are
five
roles
I
identified
within
enable
the
first
is
recipient
volunteers.
E
These
are
individuals
that
receive
a
hand.
The
next
is
maker
volunteers.
These
are
established
and
new
makers
of
prosthetic
hands.
The
third
group
is
chapters.
These
are
universities
not
for
profits
and
other
organizations
that
got
started
through,
enable
and
may
or
may
not
carry
a
nable's
name.
The
next
are
supporters.
E
They
do
not
produce
3d
printed
hands,
but
they
help
enable
with
the
managerial
aspects,
such
as
fundraising,
managing
the
hub
and
going
to
government
meetings.
The
last
group
is
education.
These
are
teachers,
students
and
mentors.
They
use
enable
to
create
curriculum
and
teach
their
students,
soft
skills,
such
as
leadership
and
empathy,
as
well
as
hard
skills
like
stem
all
based
on
my
research.
E
Governance.
The
supporters
are
also
only
in
three
ecosystems
because
at
the
moment,
they're
giving
a
lot
of
independence
to
the
volunteers
and
they're,
giving
them
a
lot
of
freedom,
so
they're
not
in
the
volunteer
ecosystem
as
much
as
you
can
see
from
my
diagrams,
enable
is
a
complex,
ever
evolving
and
changing
environment
where
the
roles
are
bouncing
and
moving
between
the
different
ecosystems.
E
E
E
So
what
I
wanted
to
do
was
create
a
place
on
the
hub
where
people
could
find
what
they
need
really
quickly
and
really
efficiency.
So
I
broke
the
information
into
different
categories,
the
first
ones
information
that
everyone
needs.
This
can
be
for
new
members
when
they're
just
learning
about
enable,
and
then
I
also
broken
down,
discover
by
volunteer
type
and
discover
by
process
type
and
badges.
E
E
Unfortunately,
an
internship
is
only
three
months,
so
I
wasn't
able
to
finish
the
whole
hub.
One
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
create
was
flow
maps
or
diagrams.
This
will
help
people
who
are
more
visual
learners
navigate
the
hub.
So
I
created
a
collection
of
blueprints
that
can
help
people
start
creating
these
models,
and
hopefully
the
person
that
takes
this
on
next
will
be
able
to
create
process
flow
maps
that
describes
both
how
to
navigate
enable
as
well
as
specific
processes.
E
E
The
next
was,
I
wrote,
a
foundation
proposal
which
can
be
used
to
apply
for
grants.
Currently,
some
of
the
spc
members
are
applying
to
a
contast
grant.
Based
on
my
document.
The
next
thing
I
created
was
a
donor
appeal
letter.
This
is
a
document
that
could
be
sent
out
to
the
general
enabled
community
asking
for
donations.
E
My
work
revealed
that
there's
a
lot
more
work
to
be
done,
as
you
saw
with
the
hub
and
the
flow
maps,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
need
to
change
in
order
for
the
new
member
space
to
be
effective.
So
I
am
meeting
with
my
mba
director
to
see
if
future
mba
students
can
intern
at
enable
and
continue
my
work.
E
E
E
A
third
one
is
make
people
get
to
provide
a
hand,
but
there's
a
lot
of
other
values
that
people
might
not
think
of.
Initially
people
really
value
the
fact
that
enable
is
open
source.
It's
really
amazing
that
enable
has
a
whole
catalog
of
designs
that
people
can
use
and
share
and
collaborate-
and
this
is
a
great
value,
especially
to
new
organizations.
E
Community
enables
community
is
really
supportive
and
a
lot
of
people
love
enabled
mostly
for
this.
They
love
communicating
and
asking
questions
and
really
feeling
the
support
visibility.
It
provides
opportunities
to
network
and
become
more
visible
again
for
new
organizations
or
college
students.
This
is
really
important
for
their
success.
E
E
The
first
recommendation
has
to
do
with
the
hub.
The
first
thing
that
I
recommend
is
that
the
new
intern
would
continue
to
build
up
the
website
and
the
hub
and
delete
redundant
pages.
The
second
one
is
to
build
flow
maps.
I
have
already
created
the
blueprints,
but
there's
a
lot
more
work
to
be
done.
My
next
recommendation
is
the
hub
page
that
I
created
should
have
its
own
separate
space.
There
should
be
a
space
for
new
volunteers
to
come
in,
ask
their
questions
and
not
fill
the
main
section
of
the
hub
with
tons
of
notifications.
E
E
E
The
recipient
volunteer
and
the
maker
volunteer
should
be
seen
as
one
unit.
The
recipient
volunteers
should
be
views
as
a
partner
who
are
in
need
of
the
hands,
but
our
leader
in
designs.
They
have
the
knowledge
and
expertise
of
their
own
hand
and
have
the
experience
of
recommendating
new
recipient
volunteers
what
they
need
to
design
in
their
hand.
E
The
reason
why
I
chose
the
infinity
sign
as
the
logo
is
because
that
was
the
relationship
between
the
recipient
volunteer
and
the
maker
volunteer
should
look
like.
There
should
be
a
lot
of
drafts,
a
lot
of
communication,
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
between
the
recipient
and
the
maker
until
they
come
across
a
perfect
hand.
E
This
would
also
solve
another
problem.
If
maker
volunteers
spend
more
time
working
with
recipient
volunteers,
they'll
be
creating
more
projects
and
the
projects
will
last
longer,
so
they
will
need
less
recipients.
They
could
even
make
a
new
hand
for
the
same
recipient
every
year,
based
on
new
updates.
E
E
The
first
change
is
inclusion.
This
would
take
place
in
the
governance
ecosystem
and
we
should
encourage
recipients
in
all
other
roles,
to
take
place
in
the
enable
governance.
The
next
is
set
expectations.
This
takes
place
in
the
media,
ecosystem
change
the
language,
so
it's
clear
the
roles
of
all
volunteers.
E
This
happens
in
the
volunteer
ecosystem.
We
should
have
workshops.
These
workshops
give
the
recipient
volunteers
and
the
maker
volunteers,
the
skills
and
knowledge
they
need
to
collaborate
with
each
other
recipient
volunteers
could
learn
how
to
design
versus
maker
volunteers
can
learn
how
to
collaborate
with
recipients.
E
E
There's
a
lot
of
conflicting
and
redundant
information,
make
it
clear
that
enabling
the
future
and
the
hardware
separate
it
took
me
two
months
of
intense
sticking
and
some
interviews
to
realize
that
these
two
organiz
or
these
two
online
platforms
are
separate,
so
there's
nothing
wrong
with
them
being
separate,
but
just
make
sure
it's
clear
that
they
are.
And
lastly,
this
change
has
already
happened.
Make
sure
the
flow
of
donations
are
clear.
E
So,
in
summary,
my
work,
this
semester
was
identify
areas
of
concern,
build
the
foundation
of
the
onboarding
process,
built
the
foundation
for
changing
the
culture,
creating
materials
for
fundraising
and
set
up
the
internship,
so
my
work
could
be
sustainable
and
change
can
continue
to
happen
and
enable.
I
hope
that
enable
takes
my
work
and
does
the
following.
E
B
You
know
this
question
just
occurred
to
me,
despite
the
fact
that
we've
been
meeting
with
isabella
a
lot,
but
I
wonder
if
you
can
bring
us
back
to
your
original
presentation,
the
one
that
introduced
you
to
us
where
you
really
gave
an
interesting
perspective
on
well,
you
know
what
you
did,
but
I'm
wondering
whether
what
your
your,
how
your
perspective
has
changed
from
your
original
analysis
of
distributed
organizations
of
this
kind
and
now
you're.
E
Yeah,
so
I
think
I
can
answer
his
question
so
for
those
of
you
who
don't
remember,
my
original
presentation
for
my
internship
in
the
fall
was
studying
how
to
promote
cohesion
in
a
in
a
decentralized
organization,
and
so
I
studied
it
from
a
very
high
level
policy
viewpoint
and
this
semester.
E
I
got
to
study
it
from
like
the
ground
level
from
like
an
actual
organization
perspective,
and
I
knew
that
promoting
cohesion
and
collaboration
would
be
difficult,
but
one
of
the
things
that
this
internship
really
enforced
is
that
clear,
easy
communication
is
the
most
important
thing
to
promote
collaboration.
E
C
Isabella,
I'm
extremely
impressed.
I
think
it's
really
impressive
work,
congratulations,
great
job!
I
have
a
question,
I'm
I'm
still,
of
course,
I'm
absorbing
and
mulling
over
what
I
just
heard:
the
whole
concept
of
a
greater
degree
of
relationship
between
a
maker
and
a
and
a
recipient
and
a
redefinition
a
little
bit
of
of
who
they
are
to
one
another.
C
What
are
your
thoughts,
given
the
fact
that
a
lot
of
our
work
is
done
remotely
between
those
two
entities,
so,
given
that
a
maker
is
is
perhaps
even
in
a
different
continent,
but,
let's
just
say
even
in
the
same
continent,
but
3
000
miles
apart
just
thinking
out
loud?
How
do
we
begin
to
approach
your
recommendations,
given
that.
E
Yeah,
I
think,
before
kovid.
That
would
be
an
incredibly
difficult
conversation.
But
one
of
the
interesting
about
covet
is
a
lot
of
people
are
more
used
to
meeting
online
and
more
more
comfortable
with
online
meetings,
and
the
other
thing
is-
and
I
haven't
worked
with
any
international
enabled
volunteers.
So
if
this
doesn't
sound
effective,
but
the
collaboration
doesn't
have
to
be
zoom
call
meetings
all
the
time,
but
it
could
be
emails
back
and
forth.
Sharing
designs,
just
more
open
communication,
even
just
changing
the
mindset
that
this
isn't
a
one-and-done
deal.
A
What
I'm
hearing
that's
interesting
from
what
isabella
just
mentioned
is
maybe
a
middle
ground
worth
exploring.
So
I
agree
completely
that
shipping
a
handoff
to
somebody
and
letting
them
figure
out
if
it
fits,
and
all
that
is,
is
not
the
way
to
go.
It's
difficult
being
in
person
with
them
would
be
ideal,
but
that's
not
always
practical
a
middle
ground.
I,
like
the
idea
of
a
zoom,
call
actually
have
the
recipient
sit
on
camera
in
front
of
you.
While
they
try
on
the
device.
Look
at
it
together.
A
D
C
A
Which
which
again
comes
back
to
communication,
I
mean
there's
just
so
much.
I'm
gonna
have
to
really
take
some
time
to
unpack
all
this.
But
a
lot
of
this
revolved
around
communication
and
clarity
and
simplifying.
You
know
how
we're
presenting
things
online,
which
we've
struggled
with
forever,
but
then
that
gets
us
back
into
the
whole
internationalization
topic,
which
we've
never
done
a
good
job
with,
because
in
order
to
communicate
well
with
our
international
community,
we
can't
be
doing
it
all
in
english.
You
know
that's
something
that
we
still
need
to
figure
out.
D
Yeah
yeah,
that's
a
great
point.
You
know
that
the
we
that
you're
talking
about
jeremy
is
sort
of
relative
to
who's,
asking
the
question.
So
we
do
have
you
know
all
these
different
chapters
that
are
doing
a
wonderful
job
connecting
to
their
local
communities
in
turkey
and
france
and
syria.
A
C
Right,
you
know
another
one
of
isabella's
recommendations
or
observations.
Perhaps
was
this
confusion
between
enabling
the
future
and
naval
and
it
just
called
to
mind
that
a
ticket
came
into
the
help
desk,
not
the
badging,
but
the
help
desk
this
this
past
week,
and
I
answered
it
when
somebody
was
having
a
problem
with
an
ewc
case,
and
they
said
I
reached
out
to
the
enable
alliance
and
they're
not
responding
to
me.
C
B
B
D
B
Sorry
about
that,
whenever
I
have
a
first
conversation
with
people
who
are
trying
to
figure
out
enable
this
is
all.
D
You
know
I
was
gonna
mention
well,
john
calls
in
I've
got
a
question
for
you
isabella,
so
you
zoomed
in
at
the
end
on
the
relationship
between
makers
and
recipients,
which
sort
of
comes
across
as
a
as
a
one-to-one
kind
of
model,
and
I'm
curious
what
role
do
chapters
and
educational
groups
play
in
this?
E
Your
meeting,
so
even
let's
say
if
the
maker
is
involved
with
a
chapter,
there
should
be
still
only
a
single
person
within
the
chapter
acting
as
a
point
person.
I've
done
a
lot
of
volunteer
work
and
when
you
work
with
a
group
and
you're
working
with
a
client,
let's
call
them
a
client
and
they
have
a
lot
of
people
that
are
contacting
them
and
it
just
gets
confusing
and
overwhelming.
E
So
the
chapter
should
be
able
to
provide
the
support
like
the
workshop
or
the
materials,
but
there
still
needs
to
be
a
very
human
one-on-one
reactor
like
connection
and
like,
let's
say
a
school
is
making
a
hand
for
a
person.
The
teacher
should
facilitate
that
one-on-one
like
it's
very
important,
it's
more
than
a
relationship
of
giving
a
hand,
but
there
should
be
a
very
personal
relationship
between
the
maker
and
the
recipient.
D
Right
that
makes
sense,
and
it's
also
a
great
point
that
you
know
the
the
chapters
currently
are
the
ones
that
that
have
these
these
collections
of
recipient
volunteers
and
you
know,
for
example,
we
had
a
meeting
with
jeff
powell.
Recently
he's
got
this
outreach
program
that
he
does
twice
a
year.
D
We
talked
about
sharing
some
lists
of
recipient
volunteers
that
we
had
through
the
help
desk
with
him
and
inviting
them
to
that
event.
So
you
know
it's
an
interesting
thing.
I
guess
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up,
that
there's
sort
of
this
individual
maker
recipient
partnership,
but
also
the
role
of
chapters
in
education,
educational
groups,
is
a
pretty
significant
one
in
being
able
to
model
that
and
connect
resources
together.
E
D
B
B
He
it's
always
an
interesting
question
of
how
best
to
coordinate
with
the
enable
alliance.
But
I
just
think
that,
as
we've
begun
to
refactor
the
donation
page,
we
want
to
think
about
some
way
of
making
it
easier
to
understand
the
relationships
of
the
various
players.
Maybe
it's
just
a
matter
of
making
it
very
clear
that
there's
the
lights
are
on,
but
there's
nobody
home
that
there's
no
central
organization
period,
don't
hope
to
find
it,
but
I
think
we
can
do
better.
B
So
that's
that's
that
one
point
that
I
want
to
put
on
the
agenda
that
prefer
future
discussions.
We
might
really
want
to
think
about
how
to
clarify
and
simplify
this
issue.
E
I
agree
completely
bob
sat
me
down
for
an
hour
and
a
half
to
explain
the
whole
relationships
between
enabling
the
future,
the
alliance
and
the
hub,
and
it
took
me
an
hour
and
a
half
to
really
understand
and
that's
someone
who's
an
intern,
that's
dedicated
to
understanding
enable.
So
I
think
it
is
an
important
point.
B
Yeah,
I
mean
you
know
these
people
from
tigre
reached
out
to
me
and
to
maria
now.
In
their
case,
they
also
referred
to
us
as
enabled,
but
I've
had
the
same
situation
where
they'll
refer
they'll
reach
out
to
maria
they'll
reach
out
to
me
and
they'll
think
that
we
are
called
enabling
the
future.
So
it's
it
needs
another
another
look.
B
The
other
thing
is.
I
do
think
that
your
point
about
there
being
an
identified
contact
person
is
a
really
good
one.
I
think
that
bob
is
a
really
good
identified
contact
person
for
people
making
devices.
I
think
jeremy
is
the.
Is
the
implicit
contact
person
through
enable
web
central
along
with
bob
for
some
of
the
matchmaking
that
goes
on?
I
think
possibly
and.
A
B
Right,
but
I
think
identifying
go-to
people
for
each
of
these
constituencies
is
a
great
idea
and,
in
particular,
an
educator
to
re
to
create
a
liaison
with
and
empathize
with.
Educators
would
be
strong
because
none
of
us
are
in
the
k-12
community,
but
a
lot
there's
a
lot
of
k-12
activity
going
on
and
those
guys
could
use
someone
to
compare
notes
with
and
to
keep
track
of
what
all
they're
doing.
So
I
think
that's
that's
also
something
that
we
could
act
on
pretty
quickly
is
just
to
identify.
C
C
You
know,
organization
or
or
governance
in
that
regard,
but
a
lot
of
people
are
looking
for
that
they're.
Looking
for
a
very
you
know,
somebody
very
specific
in
a
in
a
hierarchical
position
to
go
to
and
get
information,
and
somehow
we
need
to
appear
to
have
that
capability
without
actually
having
it.
If
you
know
what
I
mean
so
people,
some
people
like
structure
and
like
organization
and
want
clarity
on
where
do
I
go.
E
Yeah
we
studied
a
lot
of
mba,
like
in
my
mba
classes.
There
were
a
lot
of
case
studies
on
this
kind
of
issue
and
there's
a
lot
of
international
decentralized
organization
worth
ahead,
was
a
hierarchy,
but
it
branched
out
and
still
allow
for,
like
the
independence
of
the
chapter
so
spc
or
whatever
you
want
to
call.
E
A
government
unit
doesn't
have
to
be
a
strict
hierarchy,
but
at
least
a
little
structure
where
people
know
where
to
go
and
who
to
communicate
and
that
doesn't
have
to
take
away
from
the
fact
that
enable
as
a
whole
is
decentralized
but
the
hub.
The
center
enable
international
headquarter.
You
know
that
could
have
a
little
bit
more
structure.
B
Yeah
and
you
know,
there's
a
difference
between
being
an
identified
go-to
person
and
being
that
at
the
top
of
a
hierarchy
you
know,
being
the
identified
source
of
information
is
very
different
from
being
an
identified
decision
maker,
which
is,
I
think,
the
essence
of
a
hierarchical
organization,
and
I
think
we.
A
Can
keep
them
apart
and
it's
further
complicated
here
we
won't
get
into
the
details,
but
there's
history
involved
here
that
adds
a
lot
of
sensitivity
around
the
hierarchy.
You
know
angle,
so
we
have
to
be
sensitive
to
that
too,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
kind
of
on
a
general
note,
isabella
that
what
I
found
so
useful
about
your
presentation
personally
is
I've
always
struggled
with
the
complexity
of
enable
it's
just
so
big.
A
It
has
so
many
moving
pieces
and
so
many
different
layers
and
aspects,
it's
really
hard
to
get
your
head
around
it
and
your
presentation
really
helped
to
give
me
the
big
picture
of
you,
excellent
kind
of
see
how
it
all
fits
together,
and
for
that
I
thank
you.
It's
very
gives
me
a
lot
to
think
about.
C
D
D
Yeah
as
a
reminder
for
for
this
group
as
well
for
me
as
well,
you
know
the
advice
of
isabella's
presentation.
What
level
does
that
go
to
so?
Is
it
something
where
we're
trying
to
decide
within
the
sbc?
You
know
who
to
sort
of
assign
it
as
this
person
or
that
person,
or
is
it
maybe
make
sense
to
think
about
this
as
being
advice
for
chapters
and
how
they're
structuring
themselves
and
how
many
chapters
do
currently
have
a
hierarchy?
That's
very
clear
how
many
chapters
do
work
really
well
reaching
out
within
their
regions?
D
Identifying
you
know
different.
I
don't
know
lead
mentor
for
this
or
lead
director
for
that.
I
think
if
we
zoom
in
a
bit,
I
think
we're
going
to
find
a
lot
of
those
things
that
we're
looking
for
already
exist
and.
A
That's
great,
that's
right.
I
think
that's
exactly
the
point
that
we
should
look
in
both
places,
but
I
think
isabel
has
done
a
good
job
of
helping
us
to
look
at
what
we
need
to
focus
on
building,
but
as
we
figure
out
how
to
do
that,
we
can
look
to
the
chapters
and
and
figure
out
what
are
they
doing,
that
that
might
help
us
to
achieve
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
E
D
B
To
me
that
the
separation
between
makers
and
recipients,
somehow
isabel's
presentation
made
me
note
that
there's
a
somewhat
parallel
separation
between
spc
and
the
chapters
or
the
international
community.
We
are
a
relatively
small
group.
A
C
B
D
B
B
B
Now,
all
right,
so
there's
that
disjunction
between
spc
and
the
non-spc
aspects
of
enable
these
other
organizations
these
other
chapters.
So
that's
also
something
that
we
really
should
think
about
addressing.
We
have
had
the
experience
with
this
conversation
that
we
brokered
between
brazil
and
turkey
and
france,
which
is
that
I
think
it's
been
very
helpful
and
it's
been
an
important
role
for
us
and
we
have
learned
a
lot.
We
have
to
find
some
way
of
feeding
that
back
into
what
surfaces
as
spc
activity,
and
we
have
to
do
more
of
it.
A
As
I
think
about
this,
I
I
feel
like
switching
to
doing
these
spc
meetings
on
youtube
live
like
we
talked
about,
actually
is
going
to
help
with
that,
because
chapters
can
maybe
participate
in
a
way
that
they're
not
right
now,
and
if
I'm
this
is
where
I
have
a
question
for
ben.
I
know
with
google
meets
when
you're
in
a
google
meet
meeting.
You
can
get
real-time
subtitling
as
people
are
speaking.
Can
you
do
that
on
youtube
live
as
well
like?
If
we're
streaming,
can
people
get
real-time
subtitles
of
what
we're
saying.
D
I
think
they
can
and
actually
there's
I'll
have
to
double
check
in
it,
but
I
think
there
are:
what
do
they
call
it?
You
can
click
different
parts
of
the
the
text
and
navigate
the
video
afterwards
too,
which
is
great
so
you
can
translate
you
can
have.
Basically,
here
is
the
transcript
of
the
whole
meeting,
and
then
you
can
search
it
exactly.
A
So
let's
try
that,
but
I'm
thinking
because
I've
had
conversations
with
people
like
I
have
one
of
my
vendors
is
in
is
in
china
and
when
I
have
meeting
with
them,
they
request
to
do
it
via
google
meet
because
it
helped
their
english
is
weak
and
actually
helps
them
to
see
the
words
on
screen
that
might
really
help.
We
might
not
be
able
to
do
it.
You
know
real
time
translations,
but
at
least
they
can
see
the
text
and
might
make
it
easier
for
people
where
english
isn't
the
first
language.
C
I
think
a
little
self
analysis
may
be
in
order
too,
because
you
know
we're
talking
about
a
lot
of
great
recommendations
and
observations,
but
it
ultimately
takes
a
lot
of
people
to
implement
and
to
move
the
needle
and
you're.
Looking
at
four
people
who
do
a
lot
of
things
and
I'm
not
praising
I'm
just
like
stating
something
we.
C
Join
the
spc
calls
from
time
to
time,
but
we
don't
have
a
real
stickiness
factor,
and
maybe
we
should
ask
ourselves
why
yeah?
Why?
Well
you
need
more
manpower,
people,
power
or
woman
power.
Yes,.
B
I'll
point
out
that,
except
for
you
know
the
usual
suspect,
john
and
jeremy,
and
bob
isabella
had
an
internship
as
which
means
she
was
sort
of
an
indentured
servant
and
ben
while
he's
not
paid
handsomely
is
paid
regularly.
I
think
maybe
one
of
the
things
that
comes
out
of
this
conversation
is
if
we're
gonna.
I
have
identified
point
people
for,
for
example,
educators,
perhaps
for
other
segments
as
well.
B
Those
should
perhaps
be
identified
committed,
funded
or
interned
positions,
and
that
would
be
a
way
of
not
just
getting
more
people
doing
the
work,
but
also
getting
more
people.
Who've
got
the
right,
committed
attitude
towards
doing
the
work.
D
You
know,
as
I
think,
maybe
understated
part
of
isabel's
contribution
recognizing
what
she
could
and
couldn't
do
within
the
time
frame
of
an
internship
setting
up
a
continuing
internship
opportunity.
You
know
thinking
in
terms
of
a
model.
I
think
these
are
huge
contributions
and
and
a
shift
in
how
folks
often
think
about
you
know
an
internship
where
you
just
want
to
package
it
and
leave
it.
Actually,
the
things
that
are
unfinished
are
probably
going
to
be
the
things
that
leave
the
biggest
impact.
So
you
know,
keeping
that
torch
going.
D
Hand-To-Hand
is
a
part
of
enable
and
trying
to
figure
out
how
internships
and
and
even
these
kind
of
work
opportunities
like
what
I'm
modeling.
I
think
that
that
does
make
a
lot
of
sense,
and
you
know
again,
bravo
isabella,
for
following
up
on
the
internship
opportunities.
B
B
A
E
I'm
also
putting
in
the
chat
a
link.
I
just
moved
all
of
my
deliverables
right,
brandeis
email
drive
to
my
personal
email
and
made
john
the
owner,
so
I
can't
give
go
into
a
lot
of
details
because
recording,
but
I
was
hired
by
this
company
called
rise,
which
is
a
3d
print
printing
company
located
in
massachusetts,
where
they're
expanding
their
social
impact
program,
where
they're
trying
to
give
3d
printers
to
people
in
need
and
getting
them
trained
and
helping
them
enter
the
workforce.
And
I
am
the
project
manager
for
that.
E
So
more
we're
work
wanting
to
partner
with
enable
but
more
details
to
come.
E
Absolutely
john
has
my
personal,
like
email,
so
feel
free
to
contact
me,
but
again,
with
my
new
position
at
rise,
I'm
sure
more
partnerships
will
will
come
up.
A
Great
fantastic,
thank
you.
So
much
for
the
presentation
give
us
a
lot
to
think
about
I've
already
enlisted
the
help
of
bob
to
work
with
me
next
week
to
go
through
your
presentation
and
start
to
incorporate
all
those
points
into
our
agenda
here,
so
that
we
can
start
to
get
into
some
of
these
discussions.
So
thank
you.