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From YouTube: e-NABLE SPC Meeting, March 6, 2020
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This is a recording of the e-NABLE Strategic Planning Committee meeting for Friday, March 6, 2020.
The notes/agenda document can be found here: http://bit.ly/38qgYi9
A
B
B
B
First,
here
in
Syria,
we
are
trying
to
bring
the
understanding
of
enable
community
to
Syria.
We
try
to
discover
people
these
devices
and
to
help
everyone
here
with
window
printing
machine
in
the
printer
machine.
Okay.
So,
as
you
know,
we
we
started
two
years
ago,
I
like
to
use
or
three
years
ago,
until
now,
we
we
make
91
device
devices.
B
Yes,
and
now
we
are
making
the
projects
called
100,
it's
it's
it's
its
goal
to
deliver
100
the
device
for
four
people,
it
means
and
all
the
trained
amputees
under
the
elbow
will
appeal
all
about
the
album,
with
the
cooperation
of
mr.
nape
of
the
Senate
will
an
IRB
design.
As
you
know,
okay,
so
we
are
trying
to
develop
our
world
here
and
we
we
have
the
feedback
from
from
the
people
who
use
these
devices.
B
To
untried
to
merge
the
shape
and
the
movement,
so
if
we
do
that,
I
think
we
can
make
a
big
step
forward
and
we,
as
you
know,
we
are
probably
try
to
make
like
prosthetics
using
3d
printer
Tim,
you
own
a
filament
and
some
components.
We
are
using
the
aluminum
and
machining
into
using
CNC,
and
here
is
I.
Think.
B
A
A
D
Guys,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
let's
go
ahead
and
kind
of
officially
get
our
meeting
started
here,
although
I
am
gonna
include
that
last
update
from
Ahmad
in
the
recording
so
that
we
can
share
that
with
folks.
But
let's
go
ahead
and
get
started
here,
go
through
our
action
items
and
I'm.
Add
we're
happy
to
have
you
back
any
time
to
give
us
updates,
but
I
would
also
encourage
you
to
share
those
in
the
in
the
hub.
It's
such
a
good.
You
know.
D
Not
many
people
see
these
videos,
so
the
hub
is
a
better
place
to
make
sure
more
people
see
what
you're
doing
okay,
so
action
items
I
haven't
done.
This
update
for
enable
I've,
Central
that'll
come
in
a
later
time
after
we
get
through
the
migration
John
any
update
on
the
application
for
Google
Ads
support.
D
E
D
No
problem
ed
was
gonna
look
into
some
alternative
venues
for
enable
Khan
2020,
but
there's
a
been
a
whole.
Another
discussion
going
on
over
the
you
know
concerns
about
the
spread
of
the
corona
virus
and
that
there's
a
possibility
of
having
to
delay
that
conference
entirely.
We're
gonna
give
it
another
few
weeks
to
see
where
that
goes
and
how
things
were
looking.
So
no
updates
on
that.
For
this.
For
the
moment,
Ben
was
gonna
post
a
message
on
the
hub
about
the
new
space
for
chapter
needs,
which
I
think
you
did
right.
Yep.
A
D
D
Thank
you.
I
hadn't
had
a
chance
to
reply
to
your
email
yet,
but
I
did
see
in
there
was
the
you
sent
a
draft,
email
and
I
can't
remember
which
one
this
was,
but
I
noticed
that
there
were
a
couple
of
links
missing
where
you
mentioned,
like
a
couple
of
there
was
a
couple
of
spaces
in
the
hub
that
were
mentioned,
but
didn't
have
links.
So
I
got
to
get
back
to
you
on
that
before
that
goes
out.
A
E
Did
send
her
a
note
I
also,
you
know
rather
I
didn't
I.
Did
some
research
I
realized
that
that
whole
Ohio
initiative
was
emulated
by
Erin
Westbrook,
okay,
so
I
wrote
to
him,
I
haven't
heard
back
and
I
thought
he
probably
knows
all
the
principal
players
and
could
give
me
an
update.
So
I
will
follow
up
on
that.
Okay,.
D
Sounds
good
and
then
we
were
all
tasked
with
reviewing
Bob's
chapter
tears
in
virtuous
behaviors
document
which
we're
going
to
have
him
take
us
through
today,
and
we
were
also
all
to
review
them
I'm
hosting
an
import
project.
I
thought
it
looked
really
good
and
I
have
that
on
the
agenda
for
today,
as
well,
just
so
that
we
can
go
through
and
and
make
sure
everyone's
comfortable
with
moving
forward
on
that.
D
B
D
D
D
A
D
A
Yeah
I
think
it
shouldn't
be
a
problem
for
us
to
know:
I
get
it
double-check
with
Mashpee,
but
I
think
if
we
just
have
sort
of
a
wiki
style
page
and
just
like
on
the
side
where
we
have
the
different
tools.
You
know
once
you're
in
the
forum.
There
is
a
link
and
click
on
for
device
designs,
and
it
opens
up
that
wiki
page
it'll
be
I,
think
sort
of
similar
to
that.
Well,.
D
No
wiki
and
true
standard
the
standard
is
wiki
pages,
don't
go
on
the
sidebar;
they
go
into
the
wiki
section,
I
mean
there's,
there's
a
whole
section,
that's
called
wiki
and
when
you
go
into
there,
you've
got
all
your
wiki
pages,
but
I
think
then
you're
talking
about
something
different
here.
You're
talking
about
having
something
in
the
sidebar
of
the
stream
section
right.
A
D
Right
well,
I'll
leave
you
guys
to
figure
out
the
details.
I
would
suggest
that
we
put
it
in
the
wiki
section
as
a
standard
wiki
page,
because
it's
gonna
be
a
lot
easier
to
update
and
maintain
there.
If
you
want
to
then
take
that
wiki
page
and
embed
a
version
of
it
in
the
sidebar.
That's
certainly
fine,
but
I.
Think
using
the
wiki
module
to
create
and
maintain
the
page
is
gonna
make
our
lives
a
lot
easier.
We're.
D
E
I
suggest,
first
of
all,
I
think
you
and
when,
as
we're
doing
a
great
job
there,
you
may
want
to
use
this
as
an
opportunity
to
create
a
wiki
page
about
how
to
manage
the
home
I
think
there
are
certain
processes
like,
for
example,
and
ever
a
new
group
is
created.
It
needs
to
be
added
to
this
leaky
beverage
right.
If
there
was
a
list
of
those
rules
for
moderators,
it
will
probably
same
as
we
can
use
some
aggravation.
A
D
Keep
in
mind
been,
I,
if
you
look
under
the
wiki
right
now
in
the
main
forum,
you'll
see
that
I
already
have
a
wiki
page
set
up.
That's
called
how
to
create
a
new
space
on
the
enable
hub.
That's
going
to
need
significant
modifications,
because
the
instructions
and
they're
going
to
need
to
change
will
have
to
remove
all
the
descriptions
of
the
different
categories
of
spaces
will
have
to
talk
about
how
to
get
it
added
into
the
the
new
catalog.
So
just
be
sure
that
that
post
gets
revised
to
reflect
the
new
new
process.
D
D
Did
notice
that
you
know,
as
you
know,
my
as
we
explained
in
there
that
there's
gonna
be
some
delay
as
DNS
propagates,
you
know
we're
gonna
have
a
matter
of
hours
where
there's
some
overlap,
some
people
might
be
directed
to
the
old
site,
some
might
be
directed
to
the
new
site.
I
know.
There's
plans
to
there
was
talk
about
putting
up
a
page
saying
that
you
know
the
hub
is
down
for
maintenance
or
something
I
might
suggest
that
you
just
I
mean
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
take
the
hub
down
per
se.
D
You
could
just
do
a
pinned
post
right
on
the
front
page
to
say:
hey
we're
doing
this
migration.
You
might
want
to
hold
off
on
posting
things
for
the
next
12
hours.
You
know
because
these
things
might
get
lost
in
the
migration
or
something
along
those
lines,
and
that
way
people
can
continue
to
access.
The
hub
will,
just
you
know,
dissuade
people
from
posting
new
content.
For
that
you
know
six
or
twelve
hour
period,
I.
E
A
D
Mean
I
would
I,
don't
know
enough
of
the
details.
I
would
think
that
he
could
get
everything
ready
to
go
on
the
on
the
azure
hosted
site.
We
don't
have
to
change
anything
on
the
the
current
site,
so
I
see
no
reason
why
that
couldn't
stay
up
and
available.
You
know,
as
he
finalizes
the
migration.
We
just
need
a
cut-off
time
where
we
tell
people
that,
as
of
substance
a
time
we
can't
put
new
content
out,
but
then
you
know
I
think
once
the
migration
is
ready
to
go.
D
A
D
A
You
bring
up
a
good
point
that
sharing
it
on
the
hub
and
after
we
said
the
date
is
important.
So
it's
we
don't
want
to
set
the
date
for
tomorrow
right.
You
want
to
set
the
date
for
maybe
a
week
in
advance
and
then
deal
with
the
broadcasts
on
the
hub
and
let
people
know
it's
coming
and
what
it's
about
right.
D
That's
happened
exactly
okay
sounds
good,
so
yeah
I
think
we're
good
to
move
forward
on
that
great
okay.
So
then,
next
up
is
fundraising
and
fund
allocation,
and
we
added
in
the
topic
here
of
our
new
crowdfunding
campaign,
which
we're
doing
through
Johnson
&
Johnson
carrying
crowd.
Jen
sent
an
email
I
think
this
morning
saying
that
she
thinks
the
proposal
is
ready
to
go
and
the
link
is
here
in
the
notes
for
folks
to
review
and
if
you
think
it's
ready,
then
you
know
it's
good
to
submit
for
for
review.
So
I.
A
D
A
C
We
comment
on
that,
because
J&J
puts
certain
restrictions
on
how
you
write
this
proposal
in
their
software.
You
got
to
understand.
First,
the
change
a
prize
themselves
on
their
campaign
setting
goal
so
in
the
verbage
and
in
the
phone
calls
I
had
with
them.
They
wanted
to
be
sure
that
whatever
we
put
in
and
we
had
a
reasonable
chance
of
doing
and
the
software
is
constructed
so
that
you
have
to
hit
a
minimum,
you
have
a
cap
and
then
you
can
jet.
C
You
can
submit
justification
for
the
cap
to
be
removed,
but
they
have
to
review
that.
So
in
keeping
with
that,
when
I
was
going
into
the
original
amount,
I
I
originally
wanted
to
have
$10,000.
That
was
das.
Well,
you,
you
have
to
have
the
minimum
you
have
to
have
a
cap,
you
can
make
me,
take
it
off.
So
that's
why
I
created
that
6000
year
4000
was.
C
C
D
C
Okay,
absolutely
now
you
know
I
think
at
some
point
they
may
well
question
a
very
large
number,
because
again
what
they
say
is
look.
You
know
we
pride
ourselves
and
if
you
don't
have
twenty
to
thirty
percent
of
that
money,
pre-arranged
within
48
hours,
chances
are
you're
not
going
to
hit
your
goal.
They
don't
like
that.
They're
horrible
stick
is
you're
very
successful
with
them.
So
I
I'm,
not
gonna,
guess
I,
don't
know
how
they're
gonna
respond
to
the
numbers
I
on
the
input
was
I
was
trying
a
modest
experiment.
D
No,
that
makes
sense,
I
mean
if
we
have
the
opportunity
to
ask
them
to
review
it
and
remove
the
cap,
then
having
a
lower
target
than
50k
makes
sense.
Maybe
it
should
be
closer
to
20k
or
something
where
we
feel
more
confident
as
long
as
we
can
still
exceed
that,
then
I
see
no
reason
why
we
wouldn't
do
that,
but.
D
Okay,
all
right
well,
I
was
just
gonna
say
it
looks
like
Jenna
wasn't
able
to
join
us,
but
I
will
be
sure
to
point
her
to
this
part
of
the
recording
and
ask
her
to
review
this.
And
then
we
can
look
at
how
to
to
modify
that
great.
A
C
C
First
of
all,
you
know
we
can
go
out
and
we
can
ask
people
like
the
del
asked
I've
been
in
private
communication
with
insight,
the
consulting
company
in
the
UK
that
wants
to
give
money
to
us
I'm
having
no
phone
call
to
them
next
week,
and
originally
I
was
just
going
out
asking
for
donations
or
a
corporate
partnership
program
where
there
was
a
donation
coupled
with
a
chapter.
Then
we
added
in
the
crowdfunding
as
an
option,
then
we're
adding
in
support
for
enable
kind
sponsorships
which
may
or
may
not
occur.
C
So
it
seems
to
me
we
need
to
sort
of
settle
on
how
we
going
to
conduct
our
fundraising,
because
in
this
case,
if
we
need
a
20
to
30%
pre-arranged,
perhaps
we
could
use
some
other
donations
to
help
satisfy
that.
You
know
what
I
mean,
because
then
it
would
be
fundal
funneled
through
the
crowd
Karen
instead
of
coming
direct
and
would
help
the
overall
crowd.
D
D
C
What
they
do
is-
and
you
know
I
had
to
have
the
phone
call
with
him
when
I
presume
Jen
had
the
same
phone
call.
They
recommend
that,
in
order
for
campaign
to
be
successful,
you
need
to
have
these
20-30
percent,
as
they're
experienced
and
apparently
in
their
experience.
If,
if
people
out
there
who
want
to
donate
to
good
things,
see
a
campaign
accelerating
like
this,
they
will
automatically.
C
So,
in
addition
to
putting
together
this
proposal
for
crowdfunding,
you
need
to
have
a
separate
camp,
a
wrapped
around
it
that
that
accelerates
it
and
that's
what
I
was.
You
know,
had
a
number
of
emails
out
originally
about
working
with
bed
nets.
That's
how
Ben
and
I
became
engaged
saying:
look.
You
can
just
hit
a
button
on
a
J&J
site,
but
that
may
end
up
with
a
lot
of
nothing
if
you,
the
lubricated
the
gears,
with
traditional
fundraising
of
your
own,
to
direct
people
to
the
site.
E
C
E
D
There's
no
harm,
let
me
just
let
me
just
ask
that
a
different.
Let
me
just
ask
that
a
different
way
is
there
any
benefit
to
having
funds
from
folks
like
dell,
others
who
might
be
considering
a
donation?
Is
there
a
benefit
directing
that
through
the
care
and
crowd
fund
other
than
the
fact
that
it
helps
us
to
meet
our
our
goals
and
that,
in
that
campaign,.
C
D
C
He
said
you
know
there
are
these
donors
out
there
that
are
looking
for
good
causes,
but
they
look
for
causes
that
are
being
self
supported,
are,
are
active
and
are
enthusiastic
and
and
are
celebrating
towards
their
goal,
so
the
Adele
donation,
creases,
could
be,
could
be
the
catalyst
or
seed
to
getting
larger
donations
in
a
larger.
Well.
D
I
agree
with
that
in
fitting
principal
Mike.
My
concern,
I
guess,
is
just
one
of
timing.
You
know
when
we
talk
about
things
like
you
know,
getting
funds
and
within
48
hours,
companies
like
Dell
move
very
slowly,
so
my
concern
would
be
yeah.
Can
we
get
them
to
commit
to
getting
the
funds
in
within
the
time
frame?
We
need
you.
E
Know
another
issue,
though,
is
that
Dell
and
other
companies
who
might
be
willing
to
put
out
a
message
to
their
employee
base,
saying
there
is
this
campaign
you
for
that
matter?
It's
an
interesting
question.
What
happens
when
matching
programs
who,
within
the
company
go
to
something
like
this
anyway
I,
do
think
it's
worth
using
this
Bob
way
to
talk
to
Dell
and
anyone
else.
We
can
to
alert
them
to
it
to
find
out.
C
Well,
you
know
I
would
be
surprised
personally,
and
this
is
sure
guess
if
Dell
corporate
would
would
make
donation
to
a
crowdfunded,
I
think
they're
set
up
to
make
direct
donations.
That
doesn't
mean
they're
employees,
workers
right,
but
in
any
of
this
I
think
we
have
to
obviously
work
through
shows
I've
had
no
further
contact
with
Dell
or
Seamus
since
I
sent
the
original
letters
at
his
behest.
You
know
three
three
three
or
four
weeks
ago
so
and.
D
I
guess
that's
kind
of
my
concern
here
is
you
know
we're
talking
about
basically
delaying
the
launch
of
this
campaign
so
that
we
can
figure
out
what
we
have
sort
of
pre
committed
so
that
we
can
adjust
our
targets
accordingly,
but
you
know
the
the
chances
of
getting
Dell
and
other
such
large
organizations
to
actually
get
back
to
us
and
make
these
arrangements
within
the
next
say,
one
to
two
weeks.
I
think
are
pretty
slim.
C
D
C
C
D
D
D
D
Give
him
what
you
know
so
I
definitely
think
we
want
to
make
these
numbers
more
conservative,
giving
everything
given
everything
that
you've
shared
with
us
regarding
the
minimum
I
mean
even
6,000
I
mean
given
what
you
said
that
if
we
don't
hit
that
minimum,
we
don't
get
anything.
Do
we
even
want
to
think
about
something?
You
know
I,
don't
know
a
little
more
conservative,
four
or
five
thousand
I
don't
know
I.
A
Mean
the
sort
of
answer
that,
if
it
was
20,000
which
just
double
what
Bob
had
initially
proposed,
twenty
percent
of
that
is
only
four
thousand
dollars.
So
if
we
can
get,
you
know
some
sort
of
sense
that
we
can
get
a
couple
thousand
dollars
in
the
door
in
the
first
48
hours
and
twenty
thousand
would
be
in
terms
of
their
system
I'm,
something
that
could
grow
over
ninety
days.
A
There
is
supposed
to
be
sort
of
this
spontaneous
growth
stuff,
but
you
know
it's
interesting
that
they
haven't
pegged
at
twenty
to
thirty
percent
within
the
first
48
hours
is
I
forget
what
it
was.
You
know
80
or
90%
success
rate.
This
is
conversations
that
I've
had
with
them
polls.
Oh,
you
know
that's
a
good
little
metric
for
us
to
work
with
these.
C
D
C
D
D
Potentially
but
I
I
mean
it's.
Unfortunately,
it's
it's
throwing
a
big
unknown
into
this
equation,
but
personally
I
have
to
say
that,
with
every
day
that
passes,
I'm
feeling
less
and
less
optimistic
about
the
chances
of
doing
any
Nabal
come
this
year,
because,
regardless
of
the
actual
status
of
the
spread
of
this
coronavirus
and
how
many
cases
there
are
in
any
given
area,
I
think
the
psychological
impact
is
is
quickly.
You
know
becoming
more
and
more
negative.
You
know
every
day
the
news
is
filled
with
nothing,
but
this
so.
D
D
A
A
I'll,
try
try
again.
Let
me
know
if
you
can't
hear
me
I
thought.
Bob's
point
was
a
good
one
in
terms
of
coordinating
these
different
activities
for
fundraising,
so,
no
matter
what
we
do,
whether
there
is
an
in-person
event,
whether
there's
some
sort
of
online
event,
whether
we
do
some
partnership
for
corporations-
and
we
have
this-
this
carrion
crowd
campaign.
How
do
we
get
those
all
to
work
together?
I
think
it
could
be
a
win-win
if
we
can
set
it
up.
You
know
the
corporate
partnership.
A
E
A
A
D
A
There's
no
mention
in
the
documentation
about
a
target,
so
what
they
have
is
there
is
the
minimum
funding
goal
MFG
and
the
maximum
funding
amount,
the
MFA
and
for
what
they
ascribe
they
say.
Okay,
the
affray
is
the
target.
Well,
the
MFA
is
the
maximum
funding
amount.
So
that's
where
that's
your
cap,
that's
not
your
target,
but
that's
saying
that
you're
not
gonna
make
anything
more
than
that.
If
you
get
more
than
that,
it
doesn't.
D
A
D
A
D
C
D
D
So
so,
let's,
let's
revisit
that
I
I'm
gonna
have
Jen
review
this
part
of
the
recording
and
I
collectively
we
can
dig
more
into
the
documentation
set
up.
Another
call
with
them
if
we
need
to
let's
get
this
figured
out,
but
it
sounds
like
we're
in
agreement
that
we
want
to
go
with
a
more
conservative
minimum
and
and
target
if
that's
available,
so
that
we
make
sure
that
we
don't
risk
not
getting
anything
out
of
this
campaign
and
then
we'll
ask
them
to
review
it
to
hopefully
remove
the
cap.
D
E
I
agree
and
I
suggest
that
between
now
and
the
next
SPC
Bob
should
use
it
as
an
opportunity
to
reach
out
to
the
Dell
people
who've
been
on
the
sponsor,
so
it
will
reach
out
to
the
IBM
and
Red
Hat
people
and
to
past
donors.
Yep.
Just
saying
that
we
have
this
campaign,
dome
that
we
would
we've
been
advised
that
the
initial
24
hours
is
critical
and
we
count
on
them
to
make
the
pledge
units.
So
how
much
yeah.
A
And
I
think
I'd
be
fine
too,
in
that
that
reach
out
have
some
documentation
from
this
campaign.
I
think
Jen
zeroed
in
on
probably
pretty
close
I
mean
if
anything
changes
is
gonna,
be
really
minor.
I
think
at
this
point
we've
got
plenty
of
materials
there,
but
it'd
be
fine
to
pull
out
some
of
that
the
text
and
maybe
even
a
video
link
and
be
able
to
send
it
to
people
and
say,
hey
check
this
out.
This
isn't
just
an
idea.
This
is
happening.
D
D
E
E
A
D
All
right,
so,
let's
move
along
so
next
up
is
the
enable
con
discussion
and
just
to
kind
of
recap,
I
think
ed
was
was
not
with
us
earlier
and
so
I
just
want.
To
recap:
we
had
a
call
recently
and
the
consensus
was
that
really
I
were
at
risk
because
of
the
ongoing
spread
of
this
coronavirus.
We
don't
know
where
that's
gonna
go.
D
We
don't
know
how
much
any
given
area
is
going
to
be
impacted,
but
it's
looking
not
unlikely
that
that
could
definitely
prevent
us
from
getting
the
kind
of
attendance
that
we
wanted
at
this
event,
and
we
might
have
to
consider
putting
this
off.
This
might
not
end
up
being
something
that
we
can
do
as
a
20/20
event
and
so
I,
as
I
commented
earlier.
D
I
think,
regardless
of
you
know
the
actual
status
on
the
ground
in
any
given
area
where
we
might
be
hosting
this
event,
I
think
there's
a
growing
psychological
impact
of
just
the
just
everyday.
The
news
is
just
filled
with
stories
about
this
and
so
I
think
getting
you
know.
Jen-Jen
already
was,
you
know,
starting
to
post
for
our
event
that
we're
doing
in
April
on
social
media
and
she's
already
getting
people
commenting
back,
saying
whoa
are
you
afraid
of
traveling
and
are
you
sure
you
want
to
be
doing
an
event?
F
F
Something
like
this
when,
when
it's
that
rich,
it
seems
like
not
the
best
use
of
our
time.
If
we're
going
to
you
know,
if
there's
kind
of
a
strong
chart,
I
mean
we've
been
told,
no
gatherings
over
16
people
and
the
earliest.
The
earliest
gatherings
over
15
people
can
be
is,
is
April
at
the
earliest,
for
over
50
is
August,
so
like
it's.
F
D
D
I,
you
know
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
consider
is
is
maybe
doing
a
virtual
type
of
event,
not
instead
of
the
conference
we
were
planning,
but
basically
as
a
stopgap.
You
know.
Maybe
we
do
it
a
smaller,
more
conservative
event.
Do
it
virtually
get
some
speakers,
so
we
can
have
something
this
year
and
then
we
plan
our
bigger
event.
For
you
know,
next
year
and.
F
I
think
I
think
that
will
lay
the
groundwork
really
nicely
for
more
distributed
conference
in
the
future
whereby
whereby
we
have
those
kind
of
multiple
conferences
around
the
world,
because
I
think
that
would
be
really
that'd,
be
really
nice
I
the
thing
so
the
place
where
I
was
in
just
before
I
came
to
this
was
actually
a
virtual
world
for
conference
is
which
I
think
I
mentioned
last
week.
I
can
quickly
show
you
some
pictures
of
it.
If
that
is
useful,
so
I'll
yeah
I'll,
send
you
the
send
me
the
link
to
it.
F
F
D
F
Think
the
nice
thing
about
this
is
that
it's
actually
it's,
it
was
desktop
first
nor
the
our
first,
and
so
so
it's
it
will
work
on
anyone's
computer,
but
then
it
it
you
can
make
it
nicer
with
with
with
kind
of
VR
so
I
mean
if
I
like
here
when
I,
when
you
go
to
a
first-person
perspective.
This
is
what
the
VR
kind
of
look
like
so
alex
is.
The
CEO
was
just
speaking
to
this
now
because
suddenly
well,
because
of
why
I
just
described,
we've
suddenly
got
a
lot
of
demands.
D
So
here's
one
thing
I'm
curious
about
it,
so
you
showed
in
a
previous
image
like
this
one
here
where
you
can
have
an
actual
conference
venue.
You've
got
it,
you
can
actually
look
out
and
see
all
the
avatars
sitting
in
the
seats.
Do
you
know,
do
you
know
if
they
have
the
ability
to
like
raise
their
hand
so
that
it.
F
F
Nate
Nate,
Monsieur,
and
so
the
but
yeah
you
can.
You
can
do
that
like
run.
Surveys
like
it
was
I
mean
it
was
very
like
a
presentation
that
you
would
see
yeah
that
you
would
see
in
kind
of
conventional
context
and
it
felt
really
I
think
the
thing
that
was
nicer
than
a
webinar
was
was
seeing
this
audience
I
think
it
felt
much
more
like
a
collective
experience,
so
doing
a
webinar
which
exactly.
F
D
F
F
Yes
and
I
think
they
do
hold
events
there.
I,
don't
know
what
I
don't
know
about
kind
of
event.
It's
not
like
I
mean
it's
not
like
alt
space
in
it.
It's
not
the
same
level
of
yeah
kind
of
events
going
on
all
the
time,
yeah
I
think
I,
think
we
I
mean
I,
think
what
we
could
do.
Alex
wood
who's,
the
CEO
I
think
he'd
be
happy
for
us
to
like
I,
attended
that
taught
the
their
talk.
I
think
we
should
go
and
attend
something
like
that.
D
F
The
one
the
one
other
thing
I
would
share
is
I
did
actually
I
reached
out
to
my
US
colleagues,
the
the
venue
that
would
have
made
most
sense.
I
know
this
is
all
hypothetical
now,
but
just
good
to
bear
in
mind
for
the
future
was
our
Dallas.
We
have
like
at
the
Royal
University
in
Dallas,
and
so
they
said,
you
know
that
they
do
hold
events
on
the
weekends
there
and
they
were
kind
of
provisionally
interested
in
and
asked
me
to
send
over
some
details
about
last
year's
conference.
F
D
C
D
Let's
move
on
so
we
can
get
to
at
least
one
more
topic
here,
which
is
the
chapter
or
status
and
structure
plan,
including
financial
support.
So
we
all
know
that
we
have
this
chapter
in
need
space
now
and
then
put
a
message
about
that
out
to
the
the
community,
but
I'd
rather
focus
on
Bob's
proposal
here
for
the
tearing
of
chapters
I
did
look
through
that
I,
don't
know
if
everyone
else
has
had
a
chance
to
review
it
in
detail.
It
looked
great
to
me,
but
it's
a
lot
to
digest.
D
C
A
There
was
certain
chapters
that
were
not
involved
with
the
official
process
and
and
what
was
missing,
and
then
there
was
a
dialogue,
came
out
of
that
through
email
and
I
tried
to
bring
that
over
into
this
and
it
sort
of
snowballed
into
looking
much
bigger
than
chapters.
But
I
think
you
know.
Bobs
and
initial
focus
on
the
chapters
is
still
probably
the
highest
priority.
C
So
let
me
just
address
that
what
I
volunteered
to
do
was
to
create
a
draft
of
the
chapter
tearing
that
we
had
been
discussing
for
quite
a
while
coupling
that
with
John's
virtuous
behaviour,
I
put
together
a
number
of
virtuous
behaviors
and
I
think
that
the
one
decision
I
did
make
was
that,
instead
of
creating
like
a
chapter
in
training
or
provisional
chapter,
I
decided
that,
let's
start
everybody
at
the
same
point
right
now.
That
way,
we
don't
have
to
tell
people.
There
are
certain
levels
and
other
people
are
certain
levels.
C
C
D
C
And
I
what
I
tried
to
do
is
based
it
on
the
fact
that
we're
not
going
to
require
you
to
have
certain
specific
activities.
We're
gonna,
allow
you
to
pick
from
the
menu
beyond
the
initial
level.
So
there's
your
danger
list
of
things
that
accrue
benefit
to
these
levels.
So
if
you
go
down,
of
course,
bronze
I
made
up
these
little
badges
to
give
substance
to
it.
So
between
bed
and
I
said
okay,
there
are
requirements
here,
everybody,
let's
go
back,
there's
a
stay!
I'm!
Sorry,
let's
go
back
to
the
standard
before
this.
Please
oh.
C
C
There
are
various
required
so
to
be
a
standard
chapter.
That's
currently
what
we
have
for
the
badge
and
what
was
that
it
was
team
leader
registered
on
the
hub.
Now
that
was
that
was
originally
a
requirements
for
the
community
chapter
badge.
Then
we
took
it
off
and
and
then
I
think
there
were
concerns
on
other.
Not
everybody
speaks
on
emotions
only
in
English,
but
to
be
honest,
I
think
if
you're
going
to
be
chapter
and
you
can
apply
for
the
badge
in
English.
A
C
C
So
everybody
is
a
stated
chapter
as
of
the
day
we
launched
this
there's
your
virtuous
behaviors.
Now,
if
you
want
to
go
to
a
bronze
level,
which
is
the
first
tier,
you
must
have
had
a
standard
bed
for
at
least
six
months
now
for
those
chapters
that
have
that
are
long
standing.
We
grandfather
that
we
include
their
existence
towards
that
requirement.
Twice.
C
C
D
Remember,
Bob
I
did
set
up
a
forum
now
for
them
to
fill
out
a
there's,
a
Google
Form
for
them
to
acknowledge
acceptance
of
the
code
of
conduct.
So
we
could
consider
that
as
this
evidence,
because
as
soon
as
they
fill
out
that
form
all
those
responses
go
into
a
Google
sheet
and
we
have
that
recorded
with
the
date
and
time
and
everything.
That's.
C
You
know
I'm
gonna
administer
this
system,
so
it's
going
to
take
a
bit
but
I'm
willing
to
do
that.
So
once
these
things
start
coming
in
I'll
keep
a
tally
of
it
and
I'll
assign
the
badges
the
badge
great.
All
the
images
of
the
badge
is
to
me:
I
can
work
with
you
and
Jenny
knows
posted
and
we'll
have
to
promote
it
and
everything
that
okay.
C
So
silver
they
build
on
each
other
right.
So
you
must
have
been
a
bronze
level
for
these
three
months,
and
now
we
can
change
this.
If
we
wish
good
time,
we
just
pick
numbers
sure
you
promise
to
continue
to
meet
the
requirements
about
the
bronze
level
and
in
addition,
you
provide
evidence
of
an
additional
two
virtuous
activities.
You
pick
them:
okay,
okay,
then
we
go
to
gold
after
been
a
silver
for
at
least
three
months.
F
D
Kind
of
like
the
three
month
time
frame,
because
if
you,
if
you
set
this
to
six
months,
you're
talking
about
a
minimum
of
a
year
and
a
half
for
somebody
to
be
able
to
to
get
through
this
and
I,
think
we
do
have
some
chapters
that
are
probably
already
you
know
demonstrating.
You
know
quite
a
few
of
those
virtuous
activities.
So
I
don't
know
that
we
want
to
make
it
so
that
it
takes
a
minimum
of
a
year
and
a
half
for
them
to
get
to
this
gold.
A
Line
it
so
it
would
be
a
you
know,
the
annual
so
from
one
annual
audit
to
the
next.
You
can
have
people
that
can
progress
through
it
and
at
first
six
months
you
know
Bob
and
I
were
chatting
about
that
being
the
most
difficult
so
that
that
being
the
you
know
a
high
step
in
the
beginning,
and
then
you
know
as
long
as
they
can
continue
momentum.
That
really
does
that's
the
hardest
stuff.
Now.
D
Only
thing
I'm
a
little
hesitant
about
is
you
know
if
we,
if
we
do
it
in
this
route,
nobody
can
get
past
the
Browns
level
for
a
minimum
of
three
months.
That's
assuming
they're
grandfathered
into
that
and
I'm
thinking,
I
mean
weeks.
We
have
I
mean
might
be
a
small
number,
but
we
have
some
chapters
that
are
doing
amazing
work
that
might
be
hitting
almost
everything
on
that
virtuous
activities
list.
Do
we
want
to
allow
for
some
kind
of
exception
or
spc
override
or
something
where
certain
chapters
could
be
accelerated
through
this?
It.
D
E
C
D
C
D
Think
I
think
that's
appropriate.
I
mean
I
would
like
to
see
this
program
rolled
out
and
within
the
course
of
the
first
month,
I
think
we
should
have
some
gold
chapters
on
the
map
and
some
silver
and
some
bronze.
You
know
I
I,
don't
know
that
we
want
to
strictly
require
them
to
step
at
three-month
intervals
through
each
of
these
tiers
I
think
some
people
deserve
to
be
at
the
higher
levels.
E
Together,
your
back,
if
you're
worried
about
on
this
point,
you
know
you
can
say
that
you'll
review
cases
ambiguous
cases
with
SPC
and
to
the
extent
that
you
want
to-
and
you
know
how
to
this
is
SPC-
is-
is
ultimately
making
these
decisions.
I
mean
the
point
is
we're
at
your
service
either
offline
or
as
well.
C
D
A
A
There's
there's
other
paths
that
have
opened
up
from
this
document,
so
one
of
them
is
looking
at
alternatives
to
a
chapter.
So
there
is
affiliate
teams
that
would
be
a
group
of
potentially
researchers
or
medical
professionals
that
aren't
focused
on
printing.
It
could
be
educators,
but
it
wouldn't
be
required.
It
wouldn't
have
the
same
requirements
for
printing,
as
the
chapters
do
so
there's
a
little
discussion
on
that
there
is
there's
resource
spaces
like
libraries
or
potentially,
schools
that
don't
have
a
committed
group,
but
have
resources
that
are
available,
and
then
there's
individual
volunteers.
A
If
you
look
at
the
virtuous
activities,
I
think
they
all
align
pretty
well
now
some
of
them
might
be
a
little
bit
different.
You
know,
let's
say
for
resource
basis,
but
if
you
can
imagine
if
there
was
this
structure
or
or
this
set
of
expectations,
put
it
that
way
of
priorities
for
individual
volunteers
that
are
very
active
and
even
for
you
know
some
of
these
other
team
members
that
you
know
maybe
are
working
together
as
a
group
of
researchers
but
aren't
really
focused
on
the
printing
side
of
it.
We
can
really
get
much
more
engagement.
A
A
You
go
to
the
bottom
mass
P
this
morning
at
its
comments,
I
added
comments
to
his
comments.
There's
a
little
discussion
at
the
bottom.
He
brings
up
some
interesting
points.
I
think
he's
really
resistant
to
the
idea
of
having
public
facing
tears
and
he
gives
some
feedback
for
that.
He
also
provides
a
pretty
interesting
solution
for
automating,
a
system
or
adding
and
removing
chapters
from
the
map
based
on
their
activities
at
the
bottom,
which
sounds
great
and
I
tagged
up
in
there.
A
You
know
I
I,
think
my
opinions
are
a
little
bit
different
from
from
as
B's,
but
it's
I
think
that
dialogue
is
worth
considering
and
that'll,
be
something
that
you
know
not
just
nasbe,
but
other
members
of
community
are
also
thinking
about.
So
you
know
on
everybody's
own
time
if
they
want
to
and
through
that,
just
get
a
sense
of
what
he's
saying
about
you
know
being
wary
of
our
public
facing
new
credentials.
E
If
you
will
the
teams
and
the
volunteers,
individuals
I
think
it's
a
great
idea,
I
think
at
least
we
can
begin
the
chapters
and
telegraph
that
we
are
interested
in
assuming
this
works
and
is
accepted
by
the
community
for
chapters
extending
it
to
teens
and
other
classes
as
well,
but
I
don't
think
we
should
try
to
solve
all
the
problems
before
we
open
to
ourselves.
Then.
E
D
F
No,
no,
no
I,
think
I
mean
I.
Think
it's
really
good.
Now,
I,
really
like
the
I
really
like
the
structure,
I
think
it's
really
nicely
simple
and
I
think
you
know
the
fact
that
you
you're
kind
of
signing
up
to
activities
rather
than
having
you
know,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
what
we're
just
wanting
is
engagement
in
the
chapters
and
I
think
that
this
system
is
a
really
nice
way
of
driving
I.
Think
it's
really
cool
I've
not
seen
this
sort
of
tearing
to
be
honest.
I
haven't
really
seen
anyone
else
doing.
F
F
D
Okay,
well,
I
think
we're
gonna
have
to
go
ahead
and
wrap
up
here
because
we
are
running
along,
but
I
think
this
is
a
really
helpful
discussion
which
we
can
revisit
but
sounds
like
there's
some
consensus
that
we
should
move
forward
with
the
proposed
plan
for
the
chapters
pending
review
of
the
comments
in
this
document.
We
can
have
some
further
discussion
about
this
in
next
week's
meeting.
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
get
this
launched
before
then,
but
I
think
this
gives
us
a
solid
framework
to
consider
at
least
four
chapters.
A
I
propose
next
week
at
the
top
of
the
priority.
If
back
nod
is
available,
I
really
think
it'd
be
wonderful.
If
he
could
introduce
his
five-year
plan
ideas,
he
had
some
email
that
he
sent,
which
I
sent
to
you
all
I
thought
had
some
really
wonderful
ideas
for
ways
to
collaborate
with
chapters
long-term
and
how
that
could
develop
into
you
know
more
of
a
vision,
I
guess
for
enable
as
a
whole,
yeah.
D
B
D
That's
what
we
were
talking
about
and
I
think
what
we
agreed
is
that
we're
going
to
allow
flexibility
on
that,
so
that
if
a
chapter
has
been
doing
the
types
of
activities
of
a
silver
chapter
or
a
gold
chapter,
we
have
the
option
to
review.
That
chapter
propose
that
that
chapter
be
promoted.
You
know
early
if
you
wish,
and-
and
we
can
allow
for
exceptions
where
chapters
can
move
through-
that
more
quickly.
D
I
think
that's
something
that
we
could
add
to
the
virtuous
activities
list.
The
idea
that
Bob
came
up
with-
which
I
think
is
a
good
one.
Is
we
don't
want
to
tell
chapters
that
you
must
do
this
in
order
to
be
a
gold
chapter,
we
want
to
give
them
a
list
of
things
that
they
can
do,
and
if
you
do
a
number
of
those
things,
then
you
qualify
for
that
level.