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From YouTube: e-NABLE SPC Meeting, August 14, 2020
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This is a recording of the e-NABLE Strategic Planning Committee meeting for Friday, August 14, 2020.
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A
Well,
I
guess,
given
that
bob
is
going
to
be
late,
maybe
we
should
go
ahead
and
get
started
on
the
action
items
and
at
least
make
some
progress
through
that
we
can.
We
can
circle
back
later
once
from
the
other
folks
are
here,
so
I've
got
the
recording
running
as
usual,
just
as
a
heads
up
and
we'll
we'll
share
this
later
on
the
hub.
A
So
the
first
action
item
was
was
bob
so
we'll
skip
that,
and
hopefully
we're
gonna
have
a
little
bit
of
time
at
the
end
to
talk
about
the
new
group
that
is
volunteered
to
take
on
the
collection
and
distribution
of
devices.
A
Okay
good
morning,
nate,
perfect
timing,
so
the
next
one
is
for
you
and
anthony
to
continue
building
out
the
device
catalog
pages
for
the
knives
devices
we
talked
about
adding
in
an
overview.
You
know
entry
to
kind
of
provide
some
context
on
those
devices.
Any
update
on
that.
B
This
week,
you're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
disappointments.
I've
just
been
busy
doing
stuff.
That's
gotten!
It's
there's
priorities.
I
have
to
pick
winners
and
losers
and
so
that
one's
not
going
to
make
it
till
next
week
I'll
get
it
done,
though,.
A
Yep
yeah
john:
I
use
a
separate
tool
for
recording
these
meetings,
so
you're
not
seeing
the
indicator.
For
that
reason.
Okay,
then,
probably
the
same
for
the
next
one
you're
going
to
promote
the
form
to
collect
feedback
on
the
app
documentation,
plug
that
into
the
device.
Catalog
pages
same
thing,
I
assume.
A
Okay,
next
one
is
for
ben
to
create
a
new
feedback
form
or
add
to
the
existing
form
for
collecting
feedback
about
the
devices
themselves
for
buildability
and
functionality.
C
Nate
and
I
framed
it
out
that
it
it's
gonna,
need
you
know
some
extra
questions,
but
we've
got
a
the
the
structure
for
it,
so
it's
all
included
together.
It's
three
sections
and
it'll
cool
to
the
same
spreadsheet.
B
Think
it's
good
to
go
ben,
I
mean
we
can
update
things
as
on
the
fly
anyways
as
things
evolve,
but
there's
too
much
to
do
to
worry
about
it.
So
let's
just
get
it
out
there
and
finish
it
and
be
done
with
it
and
then,
if
somebody
gives
us
comments
on
it,
we
can
add
something
else
later,
but
we've
got
too
many
tasks
to
add
more
on
so.
B
Yeah,
the
right
now
yeah
I
I'll
go
back
and
do
those
I've
got
a
second
round
that
needs
to
be
done
on
the
assembly
manual
and
stuff.
This
is
more
work.
That
needs
to
be
done
that
I
don't
have
time
or
money
to
do
right
now,
so
I
have
to
go,
concentrate
on
getting
more
money,
so
I
have
the
time
to
do
those
things
so
we're
it's
where
it's
at.
So
that's
what
it
is.
I'm
already
six
months
past
the
end
of
the
budget
from
the
last
one
I
understand
it
was.
A
A
B
A
D
C
Yeah,
I
can
do
it,
which,
which
documents
are
we
talking
about?
Are
they.
A
A
So
you
can
do
that
by
you
know
posting
something
in
the
hub,
but
I
think
more
importantly,
in
the
actual
device
catalog,
you
know
how
we
set
up
all
those
niop
device
pages,
let's
just
edit
each
one
of
those
pages
to
put
in
a
plug
there
to
say
if
you
make
one
of
these,
please
share
feedback
on
the
documentation
or
the
device
by
filling
out
this
form
and
link
to
that
form.
So
all
you
got
to
do
is
add
it
into
those
catalog
pages
great.
A
So
we
can
take
that
one
off
your
plate,
nate
all
right.
So
then
I
assume
the
same
status
is
true
for
the
openscad
files.
You're
still
working
on
getting
those
wrapped
up
right.
B
No
actually,
I've
gotten
most
of
the
deployment
stuff
up
there.
We're
still
sean's
been
incredibly
busy
too
and
backed
up
because
she's
doing
antique
bike
parts
so
and
I'm
I'm
glad
she's.
Okay,
I
didn't
hear
from
her
for
a
while.
I
was
worried
about
her,
but
she's,
actually
just
really
freaking
busy
too
so
like
we're
waiting
on
the
showboat
to
be
the
one
last
part
of
the
showboat
and
one
piece
of
the
driveline
to
see
which
one
of
those
is
the
stinker
and
we've
got
them
probably
worked
out.
B
B
So
I
don't
want
to
release
those
until
that's
in
there,
because
people
will
freak
out
and
then
we're
probably
going
to
have
one
other
issue
with
the
open,
sched
scaling
of
the
elbow
just
because
it
works
between
you've,
got
forearm
length
and
upper
arm
length
and
then
you've
got
a
circumference
for
both
of
those.
But
the
elbow
is
the
meeting
point
between
where
all
four
of
those
different
points
meet.
If
you
use
this,
if
you
use
a
distorted
version
on
either
end
of
the
joint,
it
messes
up
components
in
the
joint,
so.
A
B
Got
to
make
the
joint
itself
all
one
consistent
scale
and
then
pick
up
that
distorted
scale
on
either
end
of
it,
and
we
haven't
gotten
through
that
problem.
Yet
sean
we've
been
writing
it
up
and
I'm
I
see
that
coming
as
an
issue.
No
one's
noted
it
yet,
but
we're
just
trying
to
get
the
basic
parts
to
load
into
openstack
right.
A
B
A
All
right,
so
the
next
one
is
ben
and
muyan
to
work
on
the
content
for
the
corporate
sponsorship
program
for
enabling
the
future-
and
we
did
have
a
good
meeting-
was
that
yesterday.
A
Night
lots
of
good
discussion.
I
think
we've
agreed
on
a
a
slightly
modified
approach
for
that
which
I
I
think
is
going
to
be
effective
and
so
ben
you
and
mian
are
are
going
to
continue
to
kind
of
work
on
drafting
that
right.
A
I've
got
I
gave
ben
and
muyam
both
editor
privileges
on
enabling
the
future,
so
they
can
actually
draft
a
page
directly
within
wordpress
if
they
like
to
that
way,
they
can
upload
the
media
straight
to
the
library
and
all
that,
and
then
we
can
just
review
it
in
place
there
and
just
publish
it
when
it's
ready,
so
I
think
we're
all
good
to
go.
There
number
seven
nate
talked
to
sean
about
skills
for
life.
Did
you
hear
back
from
her.
B
I
think
what
happened
there
is
facebook
does
an
annoying
thing
when
you
send
a
message
before
somebody's
approved.
Your
facebook
friend
request.
E
B
A
Then
last
one
is
for
bob.
A
As
far
as
I
know,
I
don't
think
we've
found
a
candidate
yet
for
this
video
concierge
test
session,
but
we'll
have
to
ask
him:
maybe
he
found
somebody
that
he
hasn't
shared
with
me
yet
so
we'll
come
back
to
that
when,
when
bob's
here,
hopefully
so,
moving
right
along
today
is
ahmad
looking
forward
to
having
him
present
to
us,
and
then,
let's
see
we
don't
have
saif
here
today,
but
I'm
hoping
she'll
be
giving
us
a
presentation
not
too
distant
future
too
I'll.
A
Just
point
out
that
we've
got
the
weekly
statistics
here
on
the
I
guess,
it's
now
page
three
feel
free
to
peruse
those.
The
only
thing
that
jumps
out
at
me
is
we
had
quite
a
few
enable
support
tickets
this
week,
20
tickets,
which
is
at
least
double.
What's,
I
think,
typical,
so
a
lot
of
general
sort
of
enable
support
inquiries.
I
guess
we'll
have
to
hear
from
bob
what
what
the
trend
of
that
was.
E
And
we've
had
almost
a
one
new
chapter
a
day.
A
A
We're
not
dead,
yet
that's
right,
okay,
so
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
the
usual
agenda
here.
I
want
to
turn
things
over
to
ahmad
to
share
the
work
that
he's
been
up
to
and
if
we're
able
to
save
a
little
bit
of
time
towards
the
end
of
the
meeting,
then
we
can.
We
can
touch
on
that
a
couple
of
topics,
but
today
is
mostly
your
time.
F
F
Okay,
so
first,
as
you
know,
there
is
this
design
found
in
the
thank
you
verse,
a
supreme
group.
They
called
cree
creosome.
I
think
they
they
published
this
design,
so
I
saw
it
and
they
start
to
print
it.
So
I
bring
the
food
this
food
is
is
two
is
two
bees
one.
It's
called
the
food
one
and
food
two
after
I
make
it.
I
try
to
go
to
contact
with
with
the
people
they
they
designed
this
food.
F
F
Is
only
one,
it's
not
entirely
hollow,
it's
the
this.
Oh
I
see
yes,
this
is
just
the
hollow
cool.
Okay
thanks!
Yes,
the
problem
with
the
with
the
the
casting
silicon
is
there
is,
will
be
a
weak
point
in
the
in
the
fingers
after
aesthetic
time.
F
This
will
this
point
will
be
break
yes
break.
Okay,
so
I
think
the
the
the
granted
one
is
better
than
casting
one
okay.
So.
F
F
F
B
Hey
a
mod,
do
you
have,
do
you
have
a
multiple
extruder
like
a
dual
extruder?
No,
I
don't
have
multiplex
because,
like
what
would
be
real,
I
don't
have
one
either,
but
what
would
be
really
cool
with?
This
is,
if
you
could
embed
plastic
inside
the
tpu
foot,
so
it
had
structure
in
the
toes
and
then
in
the
majority
of
the
foot.
So
the
ball
of
the
foot
was
still
all
tpu
and
was
able
to
flex
there,
but
the
other
parts
had
rigid
some
rigid
aspects
to
them.
B
F
So
it's
a
good
idea.
Okay,
I
will
go
back
a
little
bit
so,
as
you
see
here,
I
will
go.
I
will
quit
the
structure
as
you
see
here.
This
is
the
first
version
of
the
of
the
foot.
F
F
B
F
F
I
make
the
hole
from
from
the
inside
of
the
foot
to
the
to
the
next
part
of
the
mannequin
okay,
so
I'm
sorry
but
my
english,
but
I
try
to
to
remember
what
I
what
I
am
what
I
want
to
say:
okay,
what
I
do
to
the
screw
is
to
to
give
me
the
maximum
catching
from
the
foot
and
this
piece.
F
Exactly
exactly
right,
the
autobook
make
it
that's
way.
Okay,
if,
if
we
see
if
we
see
this,
this
is
like
what
I
do
it's
from
inside
to
the
outside
the
movement
for
the
for
the
leg
in
ottawa.
It's
the
bent
on
this
red
one.
It's
look
like
a
rubber.
F
Let's
give
me
the
the
pressure,
so
the
ankle
will
be
will
give
me
this
movement,
but
I
think
the
spring
give
give
us
a
more
time
or
the
age
will
be
longer
than
this.
F
If
anyone
has
a
question,
you
can
ask
me
one
last
thing:
I
saw
this
design
on
the
internet,
it's
for
foot.
I
think
it's
printed
on
the
not
not
in
this
way,
but
in
this
way,
so
the
layers
will
be
more
grabbing
to
each
other
after
the
movement
for
the
walk.
If
you
know
this,
this
foot
is
being
rented
layer
by
layer,
so
the
shear
force
will
be
that
way.
I
think
after
some
time.
F
Well
it
will
be
some
weak
point,
but
if
we
print
it
that
way,
the
layer
will
be
that
way
so
yeah,
so
the
the
shear
force
will
be,
will
not
be
effective.
Like
this
one.
B
F
B
F
It's
it's!
It's
just
a
bla,
so
the.
F
Yes,
okay,
and
this
is
really
but
it
is
a
fraction.
So
it's
not
give
me
the
the
perfect
movement,
so
I
think
it
we.
We
don't.
Have
these
two
hand,
these
two
parts,
only
one
but
will
give
me
the
the
major
role.
B
F
Exactly
the
autobot
design
makes
this
this
this
idea.
They
make
a
silicone
shell
and
give
it,
and
there
is
a
carbon
fiber
inside
it.
It's
like
a
triangle.
B
Yes,
is
the
white
plastic?
That's
right
above
the
ankle.
Is
that
nylon,
yeah?
Okay,
so
the
in
the
ankle
joint?
I
thought
you
had
some.
Oh,
it
must
have
been
on
the
other
foot.
I
think
there
was
some
white
plastic
on
the
top
yeah
yeah
right
there,
the
white,
it's
cream,
colored
the
plastic
on
top
of
the
white
jesus.
F
E
F
F
E
F
This
and
I
make
this
rings
myself-
this
spring
is
different
from
this
from
this
ring,
because
this
will
be
more
strong
than
this.
If,
if
someone
walk,
if
you
don't,
but
that
is
what
I
have
to
say,.
B
E
C
B
I
I
thought:
okay
yeah.
I
was
just
asking
how
the
foot
can
lock
in
or
unlock
when
you're
standing
versus
when
you
go
into
walk
mode.
F
How
do
you
do
that?
I
think
this
part
will
not
figure
it
out
yet.
B
F
B
F
B
Right
hit
it
from
all
sides.
Yes,
it
fell
from
the
other
side.
Yes,
yeah
yeah.
Have
you
tried
to
make
the
aluminum
part
in
carbon
fiber?
Because
that's
the
other
thing,
if
we
could
print
that
sucker,
I
I
mean
I've
got
a
machine
shop
across
the
street.
So
when
I
do
these
things
I'll
be
machining
them,
but
for
the
community
can
we
print
that
out
of
carbon
fiber
or
nylon?
Maybe
for
like
a
kids
baby,
I
know
it's
it's.
I.
F
F
F
F
F
The
difference
between
my
my
design
and
the
other
designs
is
the
weight
and
the
movement
icrc
make
the
legs.
F
There
is
no
move,
just
as
I
would
and
the
autobook.
Yes,
it
is
move.
It
is.
This
can
be
moved,
but
the
springs
from.
E
B
Ahmad,
how
does
the
socket
work?
I
have
really
wondered
because
the
okay,
so
the
bones,
cut
off
at
the
bottom:
we're
talking
an
amputee,
so
the
bones
cut
off
the
bottom.
How
do
you
get
the
pressure
to
push
in
from
the
sides
rather
than
straight
on
the
bottom,
because,
like
you,
don't
want
that
cut
bone
to
be
pushing
through
the
bottom
of
their
skin?
So
like?
How
do
you?
How
do
you
do
that
man
I've?
This
is
what
I've
really
wondered.
This
is.
F
The
socket
for
for
a
child,
as
you
see
here,
there
is
a
pyramid
like
this
one.
We
have
here
the
alignment,
so
it
can
be
moved
in
this
way,
so
we
can
emerge
it
to
be
vertical.
B
F
B
B
F
D
I
just
have
a
quick
point.
I
remember
attending
the
enable
con
and
chad
and
marty
led
a
segment
on
the
bionic
glove
where
they
used
the
scanner
and
then
a
special
system
to
create
you
know
a
customized
specific
molding
like
you're
talking
about.
I
don't
know
if
that's
useful
or
valuable
in
this
conversation.
F
I
use
the
3d
scanning
to
make
the
socket,
but
there
is,
as
mr
nate
said,
the
3d
scanning
will
not
give
me
the
the
hanging
the
hanging
for
for
the
for
the
for
the
lake.
If
you,
if
you
know
what
I
mean.
E
E
A
number
of
groups
are
working
on
3d
printed,
socketing
techniques,
jeff
aaronstone
in
lake
placid,
new
york,
has
had
connections
with
enable
in
the
past
and
he's
working
on
it
right
now.
E
As
a
matter
of
fact,
I
think
he's
collaborating
with
jack
buchanan
on
something
I
don't
think
it's
quite
the
same,
but
the
3d
printing
of
sockets
is
a
active
topic
of
investigation,
but
it's
one
that
I
think
needs
to
be
investigated
with
experienced
prosthetists,
because
the
fitting
is
really
a
critical,
critical
issue
there,
whereas
what
you're
doing
with
the
the
foot
and
the
ankle
sounds
like
you're,
really
in
a
speech,
it's
a
miracle
that
you're
there,
but
it
sounds
like
you're
really
doing
something.
E
B
F
Okay,
so
the
first
one
they
take
the
the
casting
from
gypsum,
I
think
it's
sale,
then
they
will
build
it,
the
fiber,
glass
and
ryzen.
F
If
I
think
the
the
prostitute
once
told
me,
if,
if
we
can
make
the
first
casting,
then
we
maybe
when
we
take,
we
can
make
the
fiberglass
and
we
we
we
add
the
other
material.
It
will
be
more,
it
will
be
less
cost
than
than
the
other
things.
F
B
Cool
I
like
the
little
upside
down
pyramid
too,
to
lock
it
in
in
certain
directions.
So
it
only
moves
in
certain
directions:
very
nice
man.
So
what's
the
first
one
there's
one.
F
With
the
third
technique,
yes,
the
the
third
technique
is
that
this
is
the
inside
the
socket
they
called
it
soft
socket.
So
the
the
fiberglass
is
very
strange,
so
it
can
be
move
or
it
can
be
fresh.
F
So
they
use
this
soft
soft
socket
to
to
give
the
amputee
comfortable
for
the
amputee.
So
it
will
not
cut
his
his
leg
or
it
gives
us
or
it's
it's
more
comfortable.
B
F
E
B
Things,
john,
but
like
I
agree,
but
it's
going
to
have
some
sort
of
cabling
system
that
draws
it
close.
E
That's
right:
there
are
there's
a
couple
of
companies
that
are
making
a
commercial
device
of
that
sort
and
there's
the
the
one
the
guy
I've
dealt
with
has
wanted
to
make
his
design
available
to
work
these
sources.
So
that
might
be
worth
looking
at,
because
I
assume
that
access
to
prosthetists
is
a
is
a
difficult
resource
for
you
is
that
true,
I'm
sorry
for
you.
E
B
Ahmad
he
was
just
saying
that
you
have
trouble
getting
two
prosthetists
to
talk
to
you
about
this,
so
I
can
fix
all
of
that,
because
I'm
intending
to
take
a
version
of
each
one
of
these
type
of
socket
designs
and
I'll
go
right
over
to
my
prosthetist
and
I'll.
Ask
him
what
what's
up?
What
does
he
like
best
about
each
one?
F
B
E
On
another
note,
you
were
doing
some
fundraising
recently.
I
made
an
introductory
video
for
you.
How
is
that
going
for
you.
F
In
syria,
you
mean
yes,
yes,
I
have
some
contact
in
my
government
and
they
fundraising
me,
so
I
can
make
some
other
prosthetics
and
give
me
some
some
to
be
free
to
to
to
make
another
example
like,
like
this
food,
fantastic
awesome,
yes,
so
the
government
give
me
yes,
ahmad.
B
Have
you
been
boy
you
would
have
had
to
do
it
in
like
the
last
48
hours,
but
I
think
there's
a
chapter
that
just
started
up
in
beirut.
Lebanon
right
is.
B
B
F
Yes,
yes,
I'm
I'm,
I'm
ready.
B
Cool
yeah,
I
think
you're,
the
most
you're
the
most
akin
to
those
folks
out
of
probably
most
of
the
chapters
we
have,
and
so
I
think
you
would
be
a
huge
benefit
for
them,
especially
since.
Well,
you
probably
know
it's
probably
complete
chaos
right
now
and
if
you
just
have
some
answers
for
them
for
things,
they
could
start
doing
to
make
the
chaos
a
little
better.
That
would
probably
be
worth
its
weight
in
gold.
I
bet
just
just
guessing.
F
And
if
you
want
any
help,
I'm
ready
my
time
is
is
all
for
you.
B
B
So,
okay,
well
freaking
excellent
ahmad
that
that
was
awesome,
and
I
can't
wait
to
work
on
all
of
those
that
that'll
be
really
good,
and
I
can't
I
know
my
prosthetist
is
gonna,
be
well
he'll,
be
really
stoked
and
a
little
scared,
because
he
did
the
same
thing.
When
I
showed
him
my
stuff,
I
did
with
the
upper
arms
he
was
like
wow.
This
is
amazing,
and
then
there
was
that
part
of
his
head
going.
This
is
probably
bad
for
autobot
and
a
lot
of
the
things
I
make
commissions.
E
F
C
Just
really
quick,
I
did
add
something
in
the
notes
that
I
thought
would
be
in
the
chat
john
said
he
would
copy
it
into
the
notes,
but
there's
a
long
description
that
kyle
reeser
did
there's
a
report
that
kyle
reeser
did
of
a
process
in
rwanda
using
soft
sockets
and
3d
scans
from
plaster
casts,
and
I
wondered
if
that
would
be
something
that
would
be
useful
for
lower
limbs.
So
I
added
the
link
it's
to
article
nine,
it's
long,
but
it
might
give
you
some
ideas.
A
Okay,
well,
we
had
bob
here
it
looks
like
we
lost
him.
I
was
going
to
go
back
and
try
to
talk
about
the
the
chapter
he
recruited
for
device
collection.
I
guess
we'll
have
to
hold
off
on
that
until
next
time.
Perhaps
so,
let's
see
as
long
as
I
see
that
we
have
scythe
now
safe,
we
talked
about.
Maybe
having
you
give
us
a
presentation
about.
You
know
the
work
you've
been
doing
and
research
findings.
Is
that
something
that
you
might
be
prepared
to
do
in
the
near
future?.
A
Maybe
not,
she
might
have
to
step
away
okay,
we're
batting
over
over
two
here,
all
right,
so
based
on
the
folks
that
we
have
looking
at
who
is
here.
Let's
see
I'm
just
looking
through
our
agenda
to
see
how
we
can
best
use
our
remaining
time
lindsay
any
updates
on
the
work
you've
been
doing
on
the
educational
content.
I
got
your
feedback
by
the
way
on
the
bitspace
courses.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
passed
that.
D
Along
yeah,
I'm
always
always
willing
to
collaborate,
discuss
it's
just
something
that
I
love
to
do
so
I
have
some
exciting
news.
We
have
been
accepted
to
present
at
the
international
society
for
technology
and
education,
also
known
as
iste.
So
that's
gonna,
though
those
workshops
are
gonna,
be
set
up
between
october
third
and
october
10th,
I'm
gonna
meet
meeting
with
some
representatives
from
iste
just
so
that
they
can
kind
of
get
to
know
the
presentation
a
little
bit
better.
D
The
material-
and
I
also
was
thinking
that
perhaps
it'd
be
good
to
maybe
get
on
the
calendar
sometime
in
september
to
formally
present
what
is
going
to
be
presented
there
so
that
we
can
like
interject
and
perhaps
have
some
feedback
as
to
ideas
and
different
things
that
I
can
incorporate
into
that
presentation.
D
And
you
know
the
invitation
is
open
for
anyone
who
would
like
to
co-present
there-
and
I
you
know
so
that's
so
that's
going
to
be
october
november-
is
going
to
be
nice
gate.
So
I
was
thinking
like
a
similar
type
of
presentation.
Perhaps
some
adjustments,
you
know
the
audience
is
for
new
york
state
teachers
at
that
one.
But
it's
an
international
audience
for
isd
in
october.
D
You
know,
I
expect
a
good
attendance
and
hopefully
some
collaborators
to
join
us,
or
you
know,
people
who
might
be
interested
in
utilizing
the
curriculum
that
we're
designing
and
have
put
together,
and
we
have
formally
setup
and
enable
education
committee.
You
know
it's
an
official
thing
now
we
have
official
members
consisting
of
jean
janet,
janet
louisa
and
michelle
dean
accepted
ben
yeah.
D
Yes
and
then
as
well
yeah
yeah,
so
we
have
like
a
little
it's
just
growing
society
of
that.
You
know
education
committee,
which
is
really.
D
Whom
I
met
through
this
meeting
she's
been
interested
in
collaborating
and
has
provided
feedback.
F
D
Great
so
at
this
point
now
that
we've
formed
our
committee,
I
believe
moving
forward
in
establishing
regular
meetings,
perhaps
monthly,
that's
something
that
ben
and
I
will
discuss
I'm
sure
at
some
point
soon.
D
November
is
nice,
so
that's
new
york,
state
computer.
D
D
Yeah
and-
and
I
know
john
had
mentioned-
you
know-
you
know-
securing
some
grant
money,
perhaps
through
the
red
hat
society,
which
I
have
been
looking
on
their
website
and
I
haven't
really
found
any
guidance
as
to
applying
for
a
grant
for
them,
but
janet
fufang,
she's,
a
phenomenal
resource
for
us,
and
she
had
this
genius
idea
to
you
know
perhaps
get
some
game
developers
involved.
Who
can
create
some
games
that
speak
directly
to
culture?
D
She
has
phenomenal
ideas,
and
so
one
of
her
examples
was
perhaps
creating
a
game
where
you
know
that
that
correlates
hair
braiding
techniques
into
computer
science,
so
just
establishing
an
audience
at
a
young
age.
You
know
with
cultural
aspects
and
recognitions
for
those
audiences
and
working
them
through
the
techniques
of
computer
science,
with
a
language
that's
familiar
with
them
and
then
building
onto
that
language.
It
gives
me
the
chills
just
to
think
about
it
so
exciting.
D
So
that's
something
that
we're
kind
of
talking
about,
and
so
I'd
like
to
start
securing
some
grant
money
to
go
toward
those
types
of
ideas,
but
any
any
pointers.
I
know
that
we
have
some
friends
who
attended.
You
know
the
grant,
writing
you
know
seminars,
and
so
any
any
ideas
would
be
fantastic
for
that.
B
That's
about
it
lindsay
on
that
note
we're
about
ready
to
make
an
adapter
for
little
girls
to
braid
their
hair,
with
oh
beautiful,
yeah,.
B
See
this
brings
up
interesting
points
because
you
guys
will
be
different.
Types
of
hair
require
different
types
of
gear
like
little
black
girls
are
gonna
need
special
stuff
to
do
african-american,
hair
styling,
and
so
this
is
something
where
we
need
to
go
the
source
to
ask
them
what
they
need.
B
For
that
kind
of
thing,
the
I
believe
the
girl
we're
working
for
is
caucasian,
so
she's,
just
gonna
have
like
she
just
needs
like
a
almost
like
a
salad
tying
thing
to
hold
three
different
strands
of
hair,
so
she
can
work
them,
but
that's
a
total
project
that
we
could
involve
with
that
with
your
that's.
B
D
That's
great
yeah
and
that
would
be
a
great
resource
for
teachers.
You
know
building
a
unit
so
if
they
were
using
this
game
or
those
coding
strategies
and
then
now
design
a
tool.
So
it's
like
right
along
the
lines
of
that
it
could
be
an
entire
unit.
Yeah.
E
I
I
can
report
that
bob
and
I
are
polishing
the
proposal
to
the
dora
foundation,
which
will
be
a
grant
to
the
enable
fund.
But,
frankly,
once
that's
played
out
whether
we
get
the
money
or
not,
they
might
really
resonate
to
this
thing,
they're
all
about
handcraft
and
so
keep
that
and
I'll.
Keep
that
in
mind.
For
you.
D
Great
yeah
and
any
pointers
for
the
red
hat
society.
Like
I
said,
I've
been
trying
to
do
some
research
because
I
know
that
you
had
mentioned
them
in
the
past
in
one
of
our
conferences,
but
I
haven't
really
found
any
direct
like
here's
where
you
submit.
You
know
a
proposal.
E
I
think
if
you
go
to
ddora.org
you'll
find
it,
but
I
would
ask
that
you
check
with
bob
and
me
before
you
actually
submit.
We
don't
want
to
yeah
absolutely.
E
B
Attended
a
grant,
writing
webinar
or
workshop
over
the
weekend
last
weekend
and
we
either
one
of
us,
I'm
sure,
would
be
happy
to
give
you
all
kinds
of
information.
B
I
actually
did
a
a
screen
grab
of
the
whole
thing,
a
screen
capture,
so
you
can
actually
review
the
whole
thing
if
you
need
to.
D
Well,
yeah,
if
you
don't
mind,
sharing
that
that'd
be
great,
I
think
securing
as
much
funding
as
possible.
You
know,
will
allow
us
to
just
develop
this
in
different
types
of
ways.
You
know.
B
We're
getting
ready
to
turn
into
like
a
grant
writing
machine
with
my
chapter
and
so
like.
I
will
get
involved
with
this
after
this
I'll
I'll
talk
I'll
touch
base
with
you
and
we'll
get
coordinated
with
that,
because
there's
we're
going
to
be
putting
major
efforts
towards
that
whole
thing
and
I'm
sure
we
can.
A
Okay,
we're
just
about
out
of
time
so
I'll,
just
kind
of
open
it
up
to
everyone
here
see
if
anyone
else
has
anything
that
you'd
like
to
discuss
today,.
F
I
have
something
to
talk:
if
you
don't
mind,
mr
jeremy,
no
please
go
ahead
right
now.
I'm
working
for
the
for
the
show
will
be
in.
F
F
It's
very
important
because
this
this
show
will
be
will
be
very
important
for
the
old
woman.
B
This
brings
up
a
point
at
some
point.
I
I've
seen
this
as
a
thing
too,
and
I
was
looking
at
other
options
for
printing
and
at
some
point,
bio
printing
is
going
to
go
right
into
what
you're
talking
about
right
now,
because
a
lot
of
breast
tissue,
I
think,
will
be
able
to
be
printed
that
way
through
bioprinting,
but
we
just
will
have
to
kind
of
see
I'd
be
interested
to
hear
what
happens
at
the
conference.
B
I
know
that's
what
I'm
talking
about
with
the
bioprinting
is
years
and
years
off
still,
but
I
know
that's
where
that's
one
application
for
that.
That
would
really
help
for
women
cancer
survivors
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
probably
where
you're
at
there's,
probably
traumatic
injury
victims
as
well.
Right,
I
should
say
survivors.
C
C
I
can
stick
the
link
in,
but
it
look
I
think
most
of
the
people
in
this
call
have
already
voted
anyways,
but
I'll
add
it
in.
I
haven't
yet
been,
but
I'm
going
to
kill
them.
E
Read
all
of
the
thousands
of
all
the
thousands
of
people
who
watch
this.
Video
should
be
reminded
that
ben
has
now
put
up
her
proposal
on
lumio
for
the
continuation
of
his
excellent
work,
which
had
brought
lindsay's
project
forward
so
nicely,
for
example,
and
and
then
I'll
remind
you
that,
like
nate,
you
should
market
it
on
the
hub
and
in
a
few
of
the
facebook
groups.
E
All
right
do
that
if
you've
been
alert.
If
you
alert
us
that
you
have
done
that,
we
will
all
lend
our
our
support.
Great,
enthusiastic
enthusiasm.
C
Sounds
good
and
it's
it
just
goes
until
monday,
so
it's
just
through
the
weekend.
It's
just
a
one
week
voting
process,
so
eight
people
voted
so
far
I'll
post
it
on
the
hub
and
I
can
post
in
some
of
the
facebook
groups
too.
The
relevant
ones.
B
Okay,
so
john,
I
bet
you
I'll
send
out
a
team,
a
team
email
like
I
do
with
a
lot
of
these
when
I
campaign
for
people-
and
so
I
bet
you
will
get
at
least
10
more
folks
in
through
that
method,
because
that's
all
ben's
missing
is
the
numbers.
Really.
It's
he's
got
a
really
good
proposal.
C
Yeah
and
I
did
send
it
to
285
people
within
lumio,
so
it's
not
it's
not
like
it's
just
silently
sitting
there.
It's
been
sent
to
everybody
that
was
involved
in
the
last
go
around,
which
is
yeah
almost
300
people,
so
I
can
follow
up.
I
mean,
I
think,
every
time
people
vote
and
every
time
there's
comments.
There
are
notifications
that
go
out
to
those
285
people,
so.
B
A
A
A
Yeah
we
kind
of
ran
out
of
time
here
so
we'll
talk
about
the
the
new
team
doing
collection
next
time.
That's.