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From YouTube: e-NABLE SPC Meeting - February 12, 2021
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This is a recording of the e-NABLE Strategic Planning Committee meeting for Friday, February 12, 2021.
The notes/agenda document can be found here: http://bit.ly/2ZaT3kG
B
A
A
Sure
I'm
so
I
am
an
engineer.
I
am
biomedical
engineer
at
the
mechatronics
for
the
specialization
and
I
just
joined
the
naval
last
week,
so
I
I
have
to
hear
what
you
have
to
do
to
to
tell
me,
and
now
I
am
in
spain
and
I
I
have
collaborated
with
another
company-
doing
processes,
mechanical
processes
and
I
an
a
3d
printer
and
for
now
so
I
I
I
worked
for
four
or
five
years
with
other
companies,
multinational
companies
like
procter
and
gamble.
A
I
I
think
that
you
know
they're
in
america,
proterran
gamble
and
then
I
I
decided
to
change
and
to
go
out
and
I
moved
to
spain
and
I
live
just
when
the
pandemic
starts.
So
I
moved
to
spain
in
2020
at
the
start
of
2020,
and
now
I
I
have
e-commerce,
where
I
do
3d
printed
models
and
something
fashion,
3d,
printing
and
I
I
I'm
printing,
also
processes.
C
A
B
B
Basically,
just
kind
of
you
know
help
to
smooth
the
road
for
our
community
to
be
successful.
You
know
this
is
not
a
a
a
governance
committee
per
se.
We're
we're
here
to
make
recommendations
as
opposed
to
making
rules
we're
here
to
say
you
know
this
is
what
we
think
we
should
do
as
a
community
and
then
we
get
the
community
to
buy
in
and
agree
to
that
and
that's
kind
of
how
we
how
we
move
things
forward.
So
anyone
is
welcome
in
these
spc
meetings.
We
do
these
every
friday.
B
B
B
We,
like
I
said
we
address
kind
of
a
broad
range
of
things
here,
but
usually
it's
it's
more
of
the
kind
of
behind
the
scenes
stuff
that
just
just
kind
of
helps
to
support
the
overall
community.
So,
having
said
that,
let's
go
ahead
and
move
on
we've
got
in
our
notes.
We
usually
go
through
our
actual
items.
First,
so
we'll
do
that
first
and
then
get
into
our
agenda
this
week.
It's
a
short
list,
ben
you're,
still
working
on
collecting
photos
of
people
wearing
enabled
devices
for
our
gallery
right.
D
Yeah,
I
did
get
photos
from
ahmad
in
syria.
We
already
have
them
from
zinep
in
turkey.
I
sent
an
email
yesterday
to
folks
in
sierra
leone,
so
we've
got,
we've
got
two
so
far.
What
I
can
do
is
I
can
take
the
photos
that
have
been
sent
in
and
put
it
into
a
google
album.
I
don't
know,
what's
the
best
way
for
us
to
sort
of
scan
through
these.
D
C
B
B
B
B
D
B
C
B
D
Right
and
I
do
think
that
we
want
to
be
considering
the
devices,
so
it's
we
want
sort
of
a
diversity
of
ages
and
ethnicities
and
devices
so
I'll
reach
out
again
to
map
hotel.
I
know
that's
the
device
that
we're
spending
some
time
with
these
days,
but
yeah.
That
would
be
something
to
to
consider,
maybe
even
on
the
album.
I
can
sort
it
by
device
and
location
to
sort
of
tag.
It.
B
Okay
sounds
good.
Let's
move
on
next
action
item
is
mine
to
write
up
a
lumio
discussion
thread
for
the
topic
of
spc
discretionary
fund
allocation,
something
we've
been
talking
about.
I
have
it
on
the
agenda
below
so
we'll
talk
about
that
when
we
get
to
it
and
I'll,
explain
what
that's
about
for
those
who
are
new
and
then
bob
was
to
draft
a
letter
for
these.
B
Thank
you
handbags
again
for
those
of
you
who
are
new
we're
putting
together
bags
with
a
fully
assembled
enable
hand
as
well
as
some
you
know,
an
enabled
t-shirt,
mug
and
a
thank
you
letter
for
those
who
have
donated
significant
sums
of
money
in
in
recent.
You
know
months
and
we're
gonna
send.
So
I
think
we
got
four
of
these
that
we're
putting
together
to
send
out
as
thank
you.
So
that's
what
that
refers
to.
B
B
C
B
C
D
B
D
C
A
B
B
A
B
C
B
E
C
C
B
E
In
that,
in
that,
I'm
sorry
just
in
that
context,
it's
probably
worth
noting
that
bob
and
jeremy
and
I
reviewed
a
badging
interface
database,
which
will
hopefully
make
bob's
life
easier.
This
is
something
that
ben
and
mazzy
and
I
have
been
working
on
the
background
and
it's
moving
into
the
foreground
so
hopefully
handling
large
numbers
like
that
will
be
less
labor-intensive
in
the
future.
E
B
D
D
D
D
That's
in
the
works,
there's
also.
The
second
part
is
a
chapter
sharing
opportunity.
I
guess
it
a
market
right,
it's
a
space
on
the
hub
on
the
community
hub
where
chapters
can
request
funds.
If
they
have
challenges,
volunteers
and
chapters
can
support
them
and
also
people
can
share
equipment.
So
if,
let's
say,
jeremy
has
two
printers,
he
could
post
them
and
then
within
our
community
there
could
be
chapters
that
could
request
them,
and
this
was
something
that
was
proposed
actually
by
general
in
last
year.
D
So
it's
been
a
long
time
coming,
but
those
two
work
together.
So
if
you
get
feedback
from
chapters,
then
in
the
audits
then
they're
eligible
to
be
involved
in
the
the
chapter
sharing,
so
evan's
been
working
with
us
on
the
chapter
sharing
doing
the
accounting
side
of
things
working
with
paypal
and
trying
to
come
up
with
some
visualizations
that
show
requests
from
chapters
and
sending
the
funds.
A
Yeah
to
touch
on
where
I'm
kind
of
at
all
the
back
end
accounting
stuff
keeping
track
of
everything.
It's
pretty
much
done
so
like.
If
someone
donated
money,
we
have
it.
We
know
where
it's
going.
We
know
where
we
can
send
it
out,
but
it's
just
kind
of
the
front
end
like
visualizing
it
making
a
clean
interface
that
everyone
can
work
with
and
is
easy
easily
manageable
is,
is
mostly
still
in
progress.
B
Very
good,
don't
think
we
need
to
talk
about
these
other
previous
proposals,
the
portable
enable
lab
modification
of
the
linear
voting
process.
These
things
are
pretty
dated
at
this
point,
so
I
think
we'll
move
on
so
spc
discretionary
fund
allocation.
So
we
mentioned
this
in
the
action
items.
This
is
something
we've
been
talking
about
for
a
while.
We
have
this
enable
fund,
which
is
a
fund
that
is
there
for
the
entire
global
community,
mostly
through
the
efforts
of
folks,
like
bob
who's
done.
B
Fundraising,
we've
gotten
money
into
this
enable
fund,
and
it's
sitting
there.
We
have
money
in
there
right
now.
I
don't
remember
how
much,
but
over
30k,
I
think
last,
I
heard
okay
sitting
in
the
enable
fund
and
we
use
this
platform
called
lumio,
which
is
essentially
a
voting
platform,
and
anyone
in
the
community
can
write
up
a
proposal
say
this
is
what
I
want
to
do.
B
This
is
the
initiative
or
the
project
or
the
whatever
that
I'm
proposing
and
here's
the
benefit
to
the
community
and
and
so
on,
and
they
write
up
this
proposal
and
the
community
can
vote
on
it
and
if
the
it
gets
approved
through
specific
you
know,
metrics,
then
the
funding
gets
allocated
and
that
process
has
worked
well.
We've
supported
many
projects
and
have
funded
some
very
worthy
initiatives,
but
what
it
doesn't
do
a
good
job
of
addressing
is
the
smaller
stuff.
You
know
infrastructure
costs,
hosting
fees.
B
So
it
would
be
nice
if,
for
these
smaller
things,
if
we
could
just
discuss
these
needs
each
week
in
the
spc
meeting
and
through
a
simple
discussion,
we
agree
on
whether
or
not
it
makes
sense
to
support
that.
If
everyone
present
agrees
that
it
makes
sense,
then
it's
approved
and
those
funds
get
allocated.
B
I
wrote
up
a
draft
document.
I
think
what
probably
makes
most
sense
is
probably
not
to
try
to
go
through
all
of
that
in
detail
in
real
time
here,
but
rather
to
it
was
just
shared
this
morning.
Maybe
give
give
it
until
next
week
for
you
all
to
review
that
and
offer
up
edits,
and
then
I
would
post
that
into
lumio.
As
a
discussion
thread,
I
will
put
the
link
into
the
chat
here
for
those
that
weren't
included
on
the
original
email.
A
B
So
there's
the
link
go
ahead
and
take
a
look
at
that
and
please
you
know,
make
any
edits
or
comments
as
you
see
fit.
This
is
what
would
go
into
lumio
as
a
discussion
thread.
According
to
our
current
process,
there
will
be
a
discussion
period
of
at
least
a
week
where
people
can
ask
questions,
offer
comments,
etc,
and
then,
only
after
that
week
period
it
will
turn
into
a
vote
into
an
actual
proposal
that
people
can
vote
on,
which
will
again
run
for
at
least
a
week.
B
B
B
B
I
did
I
did
mention
a
limit
of
a
thousand
dollars.
I
figured
this
could
be
used
for
requests
of
under
a
thousand
dollars,
so
I
I
picked
that
number
out
of
thin
air,
but
I
figure
anything
over.
A
thousand
dollars
should
probably
have
a
proposal
and
go
through
that
process.
But
if,
if
a
chapter
is
asking
for
you
know
seven
hundred
dollars
for
a
a
flight,
you
know
airfare
to
to
go,
do
an
enable
presentation.
That
seems
like
the
kind
of
thing
we
should
be
able
to
approve.
E
D
B
I
I
definitely
agree
with
the
intent.
I
just
don't
think
it's
necessary
to
define
that
in
here,
because
of
the
way
this
is
going
to
work,
that's
going
to
be
handled
automatically
we're
going
to
look
at
each
request
in
the
context
of
what
money
is
available.
We're
not
going
to
you
know
suck
the
fund
dry.
That's
never.
You
know
the
intent,
but
at
the
same
time
I
think
we
want
to
give
ourselves.
Flexibility
to
you
know,
look
at
the
situation
and
determine
what's
warranted.
B
D
D
Jeremy's
talking
about
the
discretionary
funds
with
a
cap
of
a
thousand.
The
wishbone
is
also
a
cap
of
a
thousand.
I
guess
the
difference.
Being
the
discretionary
fund
is
pulling
money
from
the
enable
fund
just
like
lumio,
but
the
wishbone
project
is
basically
asking
people
to
support
it.
So
there's
no
voting.
D
B
B
I
just
I'm
just
concerned
that
it's
just
not
going
to
be
successful
through
no
fault
of
yours
or
the
team
building
it
just
my
eight
years
in
enable
have
told
me
that
certain
types
of
things
just
don't
work
and
when
we
try
to
get
a
lot
of
people
involved
in
doing
things
in
a
certain
way
like
this
and
participating
actively,
and
especially
when
it
comes
to
people
opening
their
pocketbooks
to
help
funding
things
like
this.
I
just
I
got
to
be
honest,
my
gut
is
it's
not
going
to
work
well.
C
D
B
E
Look,
we
did
do
we,
so
this
is
an
interesting
case,
because
I
I
believe
we
did
do
a
lumio
proposal
for
the
wishbone
project
it
was
approved.
It
will
be
an
interesting
experiment
it
to
me,
it's
plausible
that
what
jeremy
is
saying
is
right.
It's
also
plausible
that,
because
it's
simply
creating
a
flea
market
in
which
two
parties
can
work
in
exchange,
it
may
in
fact
be
a
nice
casual
way
for
to
facilitate
chapter
collaborations.
We
get
to
find
out
yeah.
D
B
I
know
I'm
in
favor
of
the
project
like
I
said,
I'm
questioning
whether
it's
going
to
be
successful.
Unfortunately,
given
the
way
it
you
know,
I
I
I
like
the
idea.
Unfortunately,
the
complexity
is
what
concerns
me.
I
from
day
one
I've
had
a
hard
time
getting
my
hands
around
getting
my
head
around
how
it
works
and
if
I'm.
B
D
Yep
and
it
was
presented
on
lumio
and
went
through
the
voting
process.
I
added
the
link
and
it
is
something
that
is
going
on
within
our
ecosystem.
Already,
that's
sort
of
we're
hoping
that
people
will
use
this
to
do
that,
but
people
are
funding
each
other
through
individual
facebook
pages
through
one
volunteer
to
another
between
chapters
you
know
enable
france,
as
an
example,
has
been
mentoring.
Chapters
in
all
over
the
world,
they've
got
900
volunteers,
so
this
stuff
is
already
occurring.
If
we
can
create
tools
that
facilitate
that
happening
great.
B
So
the
draft
is
out
there
for
the
discretionary
fund
allocation.
I'd
ask
everyone
to
take
a
moment
to
read
that
and
add
comments
and
everything
we
can
check
back
in
on
that
next
week
and
then
I'll
post
that
up
as
a
discussion
thread
just
covered
the
chapter
wishbone
project.
So
I
think
that's
that's
been
addressed,
so
we've
got
those
topics
covered,
and
that
brings
us
to
the
handbag.
The
thank
you
bags,
so
bob
you
mentioned
that
you've
got
them
coming
together.
Already
you
drafted
a
letter.
B
B
C
They're
all
packed
already,
I
added
the
hands
and
put
them
in
the
box:
the
coffee,
mugs,
the
shirts,
I'm
just
ready
to
throw
the
letters
in
on
top
next
week.
I
do
need
the
netcetera
contact
info
from
john,
but
I
I
told
him
that
it's
the
only
thing
remaining
and
I'll
generate
everything
and
hopefully
send
him
fedex
next
thursday.
B
Sounds
good
this
by
the
way
is
a
great
example
of
where
that
discretionary
fund
allocation
would
would
come
in
handy.
You
know
I
paid
for
all
these
shirts
and
mugs
out
of
pocket.
Bob's
gonna
be
paying
for
the
shipping
of
these
bags
out
of
pocket.
Those
would
be
things
that
it
would
be
appropriate
to
reimburse
for
if
we
didn't
have
to
go
through
that
whole
process,
all
right.
E
D
C
E
D
B
B
I
know
there's
a
number
of
roles
in
there
that
we're
hoping
to
kind
of
bring
in
other
people
to
to
take
on
when
the
time
is
right.
We
just
want
to
be
sure
to
get
those
volunteering
needs
listed
into
that
pin
post
on
the
hub.
I
think
that's
our
best
place
to
get
people's
attention
and
there's
not
much
there
right
now
in
terms
of
volunteering
needs,
so
we
don't
need
to
do
it
now,
but
we
just
want
to
come
back
to
that
fundraising,
bob
or
isabella.
Any
notes
for
us.
A
Just
a
couple
of
things
one
I
finally
got
the
approval.
I
met
with
my
fundraising,
professor,
and
even
though
enable's
not
traditional
when
it
comes
to
fundraising,
we
got
the
approval
he's.
Also
starting
to
look.
I
told
about
the
work
I'll
be
doing
with
you
guys
and
he's
going
to
send
me
some
books
and
resources
to
how
to
build
up
the
foundation
for
fundraising.
B
C
C
D
Nineteen
thousand
five
hundred-
so
that's
that
wasn't
approved
last
week
and
is
this
week.
So
that's
news
that
continues
so
that
will
go
for
those
three
years,
and
you
know
I
guess
in
terms
of
a
pitch
for
the
funders
it's
aimed
for
students,
but
it's
open
to
the
community.
It
has
a
very
clear
outcome.
It
has
definitely
some
things
that
we
can
include
for
reporting.
So
that's
a
win
in
that
department,
but
it
does
leave
funds
left.
We
still
have
funds
to
to
figure
out
what.
D
Yeah,
so
it's
a
it's
a
reoccurring
program
and
it
is
yeah,
so
it
will
continue
for
the
three
years
that
we
have
the
funding.
Actually,
I
was
inspired
to
to
think
long
term
because
of
bob's
efforts
to
have
this
kind
of
long-term
funding,
which
is
great,
I
think
it's
a
shift.
It
wasn't
something
that
we
were
thinking
about
last
year.
So
I
really
appreciate
that.
C
C
D
D
C
Is
the
one
I'm
most
concerned
about
where
a
true
report
is
is
being
requested
and
there
we
have
to
keep
a
couple
things
in
mind,
but
I
think
we're
okay
one
is
they
really
are
domestic
they're?
Not
international
and
they've
stated
that.
So
we
can't
talk
about
international
coordination
too
much
to
them
that
their
money
is
being
used
for.
But
another
thing
is
that
they
would
like
to
see
technology
of
3d
printing
as
a
craft,
so
education,
and
that
is
the
hook
in
my
mind.
D
E
B
Okay,
well,
let's
switch
my
windows
back
here
all
right,
so
I
I
had
a
call
yesterday
with
a
team
from
hewlett-packard.
They
had
reached
out
to
me
on
our
help
desk
and
said:
hey.
We
want
to
partner
and
we'd
like
to
get
a
call
together
to
figure
out
how
we
could
work
together,
so
I
got
on
a
call
with
them
yesterday.
This
is
a
team.
That's
in
the
3d
group,
so
they're
tied
to
the
3d
printing
solutions
that
hp
offers
and
their
initial
thinking
was.
B
You
know
they
have
a
lot
of
extra
capacity
and
we're
thinking
they'd.
You
know
print
parts.
Well,
I've
had
this
discussion
with
big
companies
before
and
with
you
guys,
and
as
I
explained
to
them-
it's
probably
not
something
we
could
really
take
advantage
of
right
now
because
of
this
imbalance,
we
have
between
production
capability
and
demand.
So
I
told
them
you
know
if
you
made
us
100
hands
right
now,
they
probably
just
end
up
sitting
somewhere.
B
B
You
know,
media
and
publicity
and
web
stuff,
and
all
of
that,
and
so
they
they
are
going
to
have
some
discussion
about
that.
But
the
other
thing
we
talked
about
is
you
know
back
on
the
printing
side
of
things
I
said:
well,
you
could
help
us
if
you
can
print
flexible
materials.
A
lot
of
our
volunteers.
You
know,
have
trouble
with
that.
E
B
I
suspect
so
I'll
have
to
bring
that
up
with
them.
The
challenge
there
is
probably
just
going
to
come
down
to
the
shipping,
but
they
said
that
that's
also
something
that
they
might
be
able
to
help
with.
Sorry,
I'm
going
a
number
of
directions
here,
because
our
conversation
went
in
a
number
of
directions.
They
might
be
able
to
help
with
that.
B
We
have
to
figure
out
how
to
get
it
where
it
needs
to
go,
because
if
they're
printing,
these
things
in,
I
think
they're
in
spain,
you
know
they
have
to
ship
them,
but
I
mentioned
that
to
them.
I
said
that
shipping
is
one
of
our
challenges
that
when
we
send
a
device
to
other
parts
of
the
world,
it
can
get
very
expensive
and
they
said
they
might
be
able
to
help
there.
They
do
have
relationships
in
terms
of
you
know:
shipping
logistics.
B
The
other
thing
that
we
talked
about
is
specifically
the
kits
that
3d
universe
offers.
I
told
them.
You
know
we
have
people
that
want
to
order
these
all
over
the
world,
it's
very
expensive
to
ship
them.
I
said,
maybe
there's
a
possibility
that
you
could
have
distribution.
Centers,
you
know
where
you
stock
these
kits
in
different
parts
of
the
world
and
can
ship
them
more
affordably
and
they
said
that's
also
something
they'd
consider
so
there's
kind
of
a
number
of
different
possibilities
that
we
talked
about.
That's.
E
E
B
E
B
B
All
right,
our
next
topic
here
is
some
follow-ups
from
our
our
3d
crowd
discussion
that
we
had.
This
is
going
back
a
ways
and
to
me
I
think
it's.
The
the
part
that
we've
been
talking
mostly
about
here
is
traceability,
because
that
was
something
that
the
fda
was
looking
for,
which
kind
of
led
us
down
this
path
of
discussing
you
know:
is
there
a
way
to
start
gathering?
You
know
the
the
details
about
all
the
devices
being
delivered.
B
I
was
tasked
with
using
bob's
spreadsheet
as
a
starting
point
to
pull
that
together
into
a
spreadsheet
and
a
form
that
we
could
use
to
have
people
submit.
You
know
information
about
the
devices
they're
delivering,
so
I
did
mock
something
up
and
I
drafted
it,
but
there's
there's
kind
of
some
question
of
where
do
we
go
with
that
and
ben
raised
some
concerns
last
time
about
privacy
concerns.
B
I
I
think
it
was
put
together
in
a
way
where
that's
addressed,
I
mean
the
form
was
set
up
to
where
we'd
only
be
collecting
first
name
last
initial
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but
it's
something
we
need
to
look
at
and
decide.
I
know
that
there's
some
metrics
being
collected
from
the
chapters
in
terms
of
how
many
devices
they're
making
and
stuff
like
that,
the
question
is
whether
we
want
to
try
to
go
further.
B
As
I
thought
we
were
trying
to
do
and
come
up
with
a
centralized
listing
or
repository
of
all
devices
that
we're
delivering
throughout
the
community.
So
I
guess
the
question
is:
is
that
still
on
the
table?
Is
this
still
something
we're
trying
to
accomplish?
Is
this
something
we
still
want
to
pursue.
D
Yeah-
and
I
guess
my
the
last
time
we
were
talking
jeremy,
we
were
showing
the
spreadsheet
that
had
the
full
names,
but
it
was
just
sort
of
a
mock-up,
but
the
the
responsibility
of
collecting
the
individual
details
is
that
the
chapters
or
is
that
sort
of
a
centralized
effort.
So
it's
it's
sort
of
you
know
comes
back
to
you
know:
states
rights
are
national,
so
just
just
something
to
think
about.
For
us.
B
So
I'm
personally
I
mean,
I
think
one
of
the
roles
that
we
have
to
play
is
providing
tools
for
the
community,
so
they
don't
have
to
build
those
tools
themselves,
and
I
like
the
idea
of
providing
a
mechanism
that
all
chapters
and
all
volunteers,
by
the
way
who
aren't
part
of
a
chapter
like
myself,
can
use
to
just
quickly.
You
know
record
the
devices
they're
delivering
and
if
we
do
it
in
a
way,
that's
not
gathering
sense
of
information.
B
I
don't
see
any
downside
to
it,
except
for
the
obvious
challenges
of
getting
people
to
actually
use
it,
but
you
know
we
could
at
least
start
it
and
put
what
data
we
have
in
there
and
encourage
people
to
use
it
the
more
it
gets
used
or
it'll
get
used.
But
I
guess
the
question
is
whether
we
want
to
proceed
with
that.
I
could
show
you
again
the
spreadsheet
that
I
have
from
the
form
that's
been
built,
but
I
you
know
it's
just
basic.
B
E
You
know
privacy,
protected,
etc
about
the
global
enabled
community
if
we
believe
that
we're
sort
of
acting
as
a
clearinghouse
for
the
global
enabled
community,
I
do
understand
the
difference
between
states,
rights
and
federal
authority,
but
this
is
actually
not
about
rights
and
authority.
It's
about
information
gathering
not
dictating
no
one.
D
E
Already
know,
what's
going
on:
let's:
let's
just
stop
talking
about
individual
names,
no
one
we're
we.
We
respect
the
desire
not
to
have
individual
names,
but
there
can
be
ids
for
cases
that
point
to
individual
people
without
making
them
identifiable
chapters
have
got
to
really
be
able
to
track
down
to
their
actual
users
to
do
follow-ups.
E
D
I
would
tap
everton
and
enable
brazil
who
not
only
created
a
system,
but
they
created
an
app
and
they
have
a
whole
infrastructure
that
they're
using
all
across
brazil.
I
mean
we've
seen
these
efforts.
I
think
it
would
be
great
to
have
a
chapter
leading
this
effort,
if
it's
possible
to
say
here's
a
model,
you
guys
can
do
this
too.
B
B
B
E
B
That's
what
we
thought
we
had
that
discussion,
but
we
built
that
john,
I
built
two
years
ago,
a
mechanism
for
you
to
easily
fill
out
a
google
sheet,
which
we
provide
a
template
for
put
all
of
your
cases,
one
per
row,
click
and
import
and
import
them
all
into
enable
web
central
and
one
click.
We
built
that
in
about
two
years
ago.
You
know
how
many
times
it's
been
used,
zero.
D
I
think
some
pretty
detailed
collaborations,
even
with
doctors
through
this
app.
I
wonder
if
having
an
app
and
having
it
be
led
by
somebody
that
basically
could
say
I'm
using
this.
This
is
exactly
how
I'm
using
it
I'm
championing
this,
and
you
are
welcome
as
an
open
source
tool
to
to
copy
this
for
your
chapter.
D
If
that
might
be
enough
of
an
upgrade
for
chapters
that
already
have
their
own
system
to
want
to
say
you
know,
let's
try
this,
because
I
think
the
the
tricky
part
that
I
see,
I
guess
what
I
was
trying
to
communicate
is
if
we're
coming
up
with
a
spreadsheet,
that's
just
in
parallel
in
competition
with
the
systems
that
they
have
that's
not
a
lot.
It
might
not
be
enough
incentive,
but
if
there's
this
whole
app
integrated
and
there's
a
clear
example
of
it
that
could.
B
I
don't
disagree
that
that
would
be
ideal
but
you're
talking
about
a
real
app,
that's
actually
published
in
the
ios
and
android
app
stores,
number
one,
which
is
quite
a
feat,
and
it
would
have
to
be
truly
internationalized.
It
would
have
to
be
truly
multilingual,
which
is
again
a
pretty
significant
development
challenge.
So
I
agree
that
would
be
a
phenomenal
solution.
I
don't
know
if
we're
within
reach
of
that.
E
E
E
D
B
Yeah,
so
I
think
that
just
to
kind
of
wrap
this
for
now,
I
think
that's
an
appropriate
next
step
and
ben.
I
think
if,
if
you're
willing,
you're
the
most
appropriate
person
to
do
this,
if
you
would
reach
out
to
everton
and
the
france
guys
and
turkey,
and
just
let
them
know
what
we're
trying
to
do,
that
we're
trying
to
get
better
traceability
and
better.
D
Yeah
and
I
think
I'll
message
everson
after
this
meeting,
but
he's
done
all
sorts
of
work
in
privacy
because
they're
not
only
working
with
you,
know,
volunteers,
but
with
doctors
doing
prescriptions,
so
they
have
that
figured
out.
So
that
would
be,
I
think,
really
helpful.
Maybe
we
can
try
to.
After
I
talk
to
theory,
maybe
we
can
even
set
up
a
meeting
between
everton
and
some
of
the
other
chapters.